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>>18115 >/sthg/ is dead /fast/ is going to some interesting places at least. Pic related Seriously though, I'm pleasantly surprised by /fast/ >>18119 >Could 4chan survive this year? If we look at the current state of affairs: >50% drop in activity since 2022 >30% drop in activity since hack >probably a corresponding 30% loss in ad revenue >everyone knows the site's an insecure mess, so no one will want to buy a pass >jannies and mods phonebooked and demoralized >hiro somehow even more checked out than usual >alt-chan renaissance I don't think it'll die this year but I'm not sure I'd call it alive either. Saturday Night Live is technically still around after all. If they get hacked again I'm prepared to call it though
I'll just repeat this from last thread: >/sthg/ is dead It may have been a cesspool of some of the worst aspects of the fandom, but there was some good there, you just had to know where to look.
>>18138 eh, closer to 25% for global posts, depending on how you count. The site went from ~700k daily posts to ~550k. The bigger boards are the ones most affected. /vg/ indeed dropped by 30%.
>>18138 >>18139 I guess the idiot 4chan mods didn't realize that people wouldn't miss 15-minute posting wait times and would flock to any available alternative sites.
>>18141 A more interesting thing would be, did altchan activity rise by anywhere near the same amount? Of course, this would be impossible to measure; if for no other reason than that people may have flocked to other social media sites too in return.
>>18140 I'll argue yes, because the idea is structurally sound for an interesting viewpoint: someone good created by someone evil. That is a classic setup you can milk for all sorts of soap opera drama and interesting character conflicts that make a comic book run.
If she were introduced in Archie, with old Archie writers, she would have gotten loads of development and content. They woulda milked that drama like crazy. We would have gotten an Evil Belle arc, a redemption arc, a courtroom drama, a clue parody, we woulda gotten Belle with huge titties drawn by Butler, we would have had it all within 12 issues!
However, we exist in this hell called the present, where Sonic is treated more like a mascot than a character, subject to corporate oversight and heavy-handed management, and a stable of writers that seem reluctant to push such an emotional envelope, to put it charitably. When the majority of the characters in a comic have to be blandly relatable, safe, and level-headed, any fun storytelling possibilities with Belle can't flourish.
>>18138 >>18139 Yeah, it's pretty bad. We're one week post-restoration and things have stabilized at around 25% fewer posts. >>18140 Not a fan of Belle personally, but with some tweaks she could be a pretty interesting character. It's a shame she got upstaged by Sage. It'd be interesting if Belle tried capturing Eggman to turn him back into Mr Tinker >>18142 An anon looked into it here: >>>/baw/435404 IMO, anons flocking to altchans have seen just how not-shit imageboards can be and I'm guessing many just aren't coming back. Everyone now knows that the schizos and funposters are under the active protection of 4chan's jannies and that's not going to change. If anything, they're now even more concentrated. It'll likely always be the largest imageboard by post volume, but its cultural relevancy is dwindling. After all, an imageboard is only as good as the quality of its users Having spent so much time there I thought I'd feel bad about its decline, but honestly I feel nothing. And why should I when the people running the place don't?
>>18148 It'd be intriguing if the Robotnik Family has various traits >Mecha has Ivo's coldness >A.D.A.M. had his scheming/planing >Sage has his need of order >Belle has his want to, well, tinker see what makes technology tick >Junior has Eggman's love of theme parks >Shadow has their relentless drive via Gerald >Hope is a classic scientist, always building, always want to learn. Very mechanical. >Metal Sonic wants to conquer/prove he's the best
>>18148 Yeah, the only reason I go there is because new posts come quickly, but when every thread is a general, this is completely lost because I only see the same threads I don't care about all day long. So why spend time there.
https://www.deviantart.com/finikart/art/Comm-Under-the-sea-998850044 What an interesting choice for a daily deviation today! >>18127 I'll be sure to include it next time. >>18152 >lmao what The image is based on the early Archie story where Tails ate that apple that made him smart for a while.
>>18149 Yeah, it's a great way to explore his character >>18150 lmao >>18153 That person's always commissioning artists to draw barefoot Sonic characters swimming underwater Based!
https://www.deviantart.com/drowsystormcloud/gallery/76209092/jemy-au-comic-series >last page >Published: May 14, 2022 Sometimes I wonder what a person thinks when they decide to do a page of a comic years later.
7pm EST tonight, we continue Mortal Comics' Shadow the Hedgehog! I'm also going to update the Klonoa comic, so you have until then to get caught up! >>>/co/454356
>>18318 >Might do Drogune next week if there's interest Man I tried reading that because I like tomboys but I lost interest fast. Don't let that discourage you from storytiming it though.
>>18320 Fun fact, the Konductor does the exact same thing since he's been Iizuka the entire time. Don't believe me?, then have you ever seen Iizuka appear in public at the same time as one of our storytimes? Case closed! >>18322 The Klonoa fancomic I'm storytiming is actually a sequel of one of those. Looks like the site shut down, but might be worth digging up some of these comics https://namco.fandom.com/wiki/ShiftyLook >>18323 Yeah, the art's great and I absolutely love the character designs, but it felt like I was reading a wiki, not a comic. You can get away with it in traditional comics, but can't really get away with that amount of story decompression in a webcomic or graphic novel. Obviously it's not at IDW-levels of decompression, but at least 1/3rd could be cut or condensed
>>18324 >Fun fact, the Konductor does the exact same thing since he's been Iizuka the entire time. Don't believe me?, then have you ever seen Iizuka appear in public at the same time as one of our storytimes? Case closed! That just adds lore to this.
>>18325 I wish Sega would so something similar with their non-Sonic properties >>18326 Deepest lore! Just you wait, one day you'll slip up and add the Zeti OCs, and then I'll have all the proof I need! Now I'm wondering how Penders would've handled the current mandates. I'm almost certain he'd have grafted his Star Trek/Kirby/Bond lore onto the Zeti instead of Echidnas
>>18031 Sonic Desolation 4-29 https://sonicdesolation.tumblr.com And so we end chapter 4 with Cream stunned and Traumanic on the roof. I hope you all learned a valuable lesson on laundering someone's clothes without permission!
>>16965 Teaching of Fear 7-18 looks like the page numbers are fixed now https://www.deviantart.com/ora-ivory/art/Teaching-of-Fear-Issue-7-Page-18-1190522691 Rude!
>>18322 >>18325 Looks like someone archived them! Downloading now, as they might be good for a Sonic-adjacent storytime https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6xmv4xv4tmvvz/ShiftyLook
>>18327 >I wish Sega would so something similar with their non-Sonic properties Funny enough, Fleetway technically did that with Sonic The Comic with the various Sega IPs they showcased in that comic
For Mister Conductor I don't know if you know of this one It's ongoing It starts as Naruto and then Sally exists (I thought of you) https://www.deviantart.com/rad654/gallery/87692833/a-maelstrom-s-mobius-misadventure The commissioner says it's based on https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14035089/1/A-Maelstrom-s-Mobius-Misadventure but quickly looking there is no end to the story.
>>18333 Nice to see him finally get a win (for a few panels at least) >>18335 I remember that one from a few years ago! IIRC, he held off because none of the Mobians had shown up yet. Looks like Sally finally showed up this year so I might storytime it if the Konductor isn't interested
I don't know why people get Silver's characterization so wrong, it's literally just this >>18332 Those were actually pretty cool, and exactly what I had in mind >the various Sega IPs And sometimes Konami's! Man, I wish they were able to continue the Sparkster comic
>>18049 Chaos in Order Page 27 https://www.deviantart.com/maxsmonsters That's gotta hurt!
From the author: >The directions of movement in this one are dubious, but I can't just mirror a frame in tradition work, so it'll have to stay this way :grump:
>>18329 Teaching of Fear 7-19 looks like the page numbers are fixed now https://www.deviantart.com/ora-ivory/art/Teaching-of-Fear-Issue-7-Page-19-1191023287 So many cute twinks! They're actually people's OCs so I won't claim any
>>18354 SPFAU: Chapter 5 Page 20 https://www.deviantart.com/ebetto And that's it for chapter 5!
From the author: >SPF is not back on regular schedule yet, just catching you guys up to Chapter 6
>We had a whole deliberation about what the snake from the Mystic Jungle stage was supposed to be. And though it seemed like it would be based on a Boa, its fangs made no sense. So now this one is based on a Wagler's Pit Viper.
>Julian and Snively were part of a space expedition from about 2200 (or thereabouts). Julian attempted a takeover of the colony, but his technology got out of control and he wound up destroying everything, narrowly escaping with his (and Snively's) lives. Meanwhile, back on Earth, a nuclear holocaust had destroyed human life as we knew it - and the animals who survived mutated into sentient beings and built the society which you see in the form of Mobius. Einstein's ideas of the passage of time during faster-than-light space travel kick in and thousands of years have passed by the time Julian and Snively returned to find this "Animal" world. Well, Julian's thought was that in the land of the four-pawed critters, the two-handed man is king and so he set about to take over - as outlined in Blast to the Past. What did Ben mean by this?
>>18349 Teaching of Fear 7-20 https://www.deviantart.com/ora-ivory/art/Teaching-of-Fear-Issue-7-Page-20-1191355579 Knuckles looks so sad in that last panel ;_;
>>18358 >>18359 Fun fact: Kuta's movie script adapts that version, so you know it's extra cursed! I really need to get around to storytiming its storyboards >>18360 Make way for the superior pair of siblings! Sonic and Tails wish they had this style >>18362 Sally's eyes have finally beheld the OTP!
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/148493543 https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148493543 And I'll post this here. Another issue I don't have to storytime!
>>18371 lmao >>18374 Yeah, those were great! I really hope they do more episodes >>18381 Now that's some Captain N-esque art! >>18385 >tune in next issue for the actual story to start! Oh ODW, you say that every issue! >>18388 That James guy has the right idea, IDW should hire him to write some issues! >pawpads >four (4) fingers >pawpad design on shoes, implying a non-blobfooted sonic How did this get through the censors!? >>18389 Making the top scars blue (they'd be red or flesh-colored) is probably how it snuck through. If you didn't know about top scars, you just think they'd altered his belly fur pattern to emphasize his pecs
>>>/baw/435491 For those interested, I decided to take another look at 4chan's stats. This time with graphs! >>18399 Nice to see Tails and Charmy getting along One more ship for the collection! >>18400 I got Rouge, which honestly makes a lot of sense >>18403 Perci (and Staci)'s got a great design. Fun fact: She was actually going to be a playable character in Rise of Lyric >>18404 That toaster-head's going down >>18405 >Bro, I cheated twice and still got Amy three times. I give up. Looks like it's a day trip to Twinkle Park for me. lmao
>>17756 S.T.C Issue 24 Page 5 https://www.deviantart.com/okida/art/S-T-C-Issue-24-Page-5-1192427905 This comic's really picking up now that Manic's in it!
>>17561 >>18224 Cosmic Tales Arc 2 Pg 20 https://www.deviantart.com/riosd/art/Cosmic-Tales-Arc-2-Pg-20-1192842123 It's interesting seeing them fit the SU canon into the wider continuity
>>18479 I posted about it in the IDW thread but it's fast, but not as fast at /sthg/. The main benefit is it's mostly anons from /sthg/, but without the bot/schizo/shit-posters. I've posted there a few times and the captcha's much easier than 4chan's. Threads outside the generals are pretty slow, but I think that's how they prefer things
While /fast/ itself is fine, the main problem is that 8chan's way more lax on what's allowed to be posted. I visited one of the MLP boards and immediately ALT F4'd since it had multiple thread OPs with IRL horse genitalia. I shudder to think what some of the other boards have ;_;
>>18480 From what I remember they allow anything on there so anything can get a board which made it worse than 4chan when it comes to degenerate even illegal stuff posted there. Not sure if that's the same anymore.
>>18481 The old 8chan would allow pretty much anything but this one at least bans anything that violates US law. Frankly I would've called it something else since it doesn't have anything to do with the original 8chan (apart from taking some of their old threads I think). I'd also ban a lot of the "technically" not illegal but still super gross stuff, but that's just me
>>18482 are we talking about kun or moe? kun kept a lot of old boards around but neutered them with forced pruning and extremely frequent dmca hits, it made some boards unbrowsable as images got axed in a matter of hours.
Change of pace this week, I'm going to storytime some of Drogune at 7pm EST, whether (you) like it or not! The Shadow comic gets kinda confusing soon and I'd like some time to do a proper writeup of the plot that fills in the missing pages with my best guesses
>>18483 I was talking about moe, but maybe I got them confused as kun definitely kept old threads. There's some posts from 2015 on moe, but maybe it's been around that long?
>>18486 Also /fast/ is fine but most of the 8moe activity comes from gacha and vtubers with /v/ getting higher pph because of a few generals (more like /vg/ than /v/) Other boards need more attention if he wants it to be a serious 4chan replacement. Time will tell.
https://www.deviantart.com/buttsofsonicgirls/art/Fiona-Fox-Butt-05-1193020248 I forget if I mentioned this specific one but there's this account. Every once in a while there's some... interesting... accounts that crop Sonic comics. I've found various different accounts like this. All I have to say is that they should at least try to get bigger crops. If your only contribution is grabbing part of something made by other people then put some work into it.
>>18485 Yeah, most of the time it'll be fine but occasionally there'll be something gross. That's all imageboards though, since there's such a low barrier to posting. Probably the worst I've seen was the gore stuff that our special friend used to post over on 4/co/ to ship up our threads. We had someone similar in the Tamers threads as well >>18486 Yeah, pivoting to boomer conspiracy theorists was a dumb move. They're not exactly the imageboard demographic. I'm actually a huge fan of conspiracy theories and alternate histories. /x/ used to have some great threads on Tartaria/mudflood/world fair stuff. The pyramids in Antartica were also pretty cool, although my favorite is definitely the ancient technology stuff (e.g., ancient structures as energy accumulators that make use of the resonant frequencies of the Earth/atmosphere through their very geometries) >>18487 I'm hopeful that we'll eventually see a set of independent imageboards collectively have more users than 4chan >>18488 It's been dropping users for years, but the hack was the largest blow ever to hit 4chan. I graphed it here: >>>/baw/435491 >>18490 lmao, one day there'll be an account that crops all the Remington appearances, one day! >>18491 Absolutely love their Sonknux art, it's always playful and fun
Konductor! Have we covered Sonic Boom: Revisited? The artist behind Hazard Horizon's been working on it and there's about to be a third issue soon. Happy to collate the pages for the next storytime
>>18572 They've just done a guest cover so far, it's actually others that do the art and writing on this. Still, the comic's got great art and the writing feels very Boom-esque. All the files are in the mega https://mega.nz/folder/mSJglAbZ#Gv2E1456J6eZ9e_RgYfFbQ
Knuckles and the Chaotix Issue 3 Page 17 https://mobiuscomics.com/knuckles
One gets taken prisoner (as well as his stuff taken away) and the other gets a bonk on the head. There’s too many villains running around to keep them all in check right now! Maw may be the one directing things but Starline’s the one doing a lot of the dirty work. What’s Maw’s secret project? Maybe we’ll find out in the future…
>>18573 Ohhh! I see! I really haven't been keeping tabs on tumblr when it comes to Sonic comics. I can't believe that so much still comes out on that site.
This is the Scourge CD arc! A lot of stuff is inverted and flipped around. And is it any surprise that Belle is the Metal Sonic of Modius? Built by the peace-loving Kintobar, Belle is his little helper and daughter that has been upgraded to better protect and help. And Scourge has all kinds of bad thoughts running through his head!
>>18574 Live by the vlog, die by the vlog! Of course, if he'd just made the console a little higher, Kit wouldn't have been able to reach it, so it's really both their fault >>18575 I only found it myself because WNACN did a guest cover for it. I can't believe we're not even close to running out of Sonic fancomics. I can't think of any other franchise that comes close to the amount of fancomics Sonic's got >>18576 It's a fancomic, so by law it's gotta include fanservice! >>18578 Oh shit, you actually fixed Belle! Making her Kintobor's Mega Man was a great idea, and a good excuse to feature more Scourge since we technically never see him directly menace Kintobor >>18586 I thought you were talking about the 1995 Sonic: Wonders of the World film script, but this is way better because it's so deranged. If anyone wants to read either of them: https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic:_The_Movie_(Trilogy_Entertainment_film) I wrote up a quick summary of it a while ago, but I think I'll do a full storytime of these (they are technically images!) with some commentary (and the text written out since it's kinda blurry on some pages)
>>18580 >>18581 >>18584 Nice! >>18585 I just haven't put them up there yet. I will soon. >>18582 Ivo "Julian" Robotnik aka Eggman formerly known as Ovi Kintobar. >>18587 >I can't think of any other franchise that comes close to the amount of fancomics Sonic's got I do wonder how things would be if I still continued the Unofficial Ride on 4chan like I did before.
>>18589 I'd say there's more Undertale/Deltarune stuff still coming out. Mario still gets comics. The illustrious LanceFreelanceArtist has done a few Mario comics.
Every once in a while I see a familiar name and while he was only Penders' temporary tard wrangler during the early Archie comics, I immediately recognized Mike Kanterovich upon seeing his name.
>>18589 He's had some, but he's usually just one character in a cast of characters from various videogames >>18590 >The illustrious LanceFreelanceArtist I think you mean ~LanceFreelanceArtist~ >>18592 I really should play those games at some point >>18593 I'm pretty sure he was the one that got Penders the job at Archie, so technically it's all his fault! He seems to have done a lot of Marvel work in the 90s but nothing since then from what I can tell. Oh and fun fact, he's credited with creating Anti-Sonic/Scourge: https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/people/5820/mike-kanterovich >copyright 2016 With those ankle pouches and costume design there's no way that was published after 1996 >looks up comic >it's in a 2016 collected volume but originally published 1995 And people say fashion has no practical purpose! >>18594 The ones I don't get >Heavy & Bomb design changes I know about it, but I have no idea why they did it >Archie Sonic 06 They did reference Soleanna in the reboot >Scrapped murder of Saffron No idea >The one Chuck loved I think it was Rosie? >Tails age-skip I know they increased his intelligence, but they just kind of papered over the fact that he's older post-Adventure >The Iron Dominion Arc was a joke No idea >Cut death of Snively No idea. I mean, technically Hershey thought she killed him in Endgame, but that doesn't count >Rotor's older brother I only remember his younger brother >LNR + SNE No idea >"Yo, Bee!" Sounds like something Vector would say >>18595 You've got that chalkboard you posted a while back to start you off at least!
>Heavy & Bomb design changes They had an original design before using the official Chaotix design later, not really sure what was going on there
>Archie Sonic 06 Apparently it happened off panel, which makes sense since Unleashed is the first game they adapt
>Scrapped murder of Saffron https://web.archive.org/web/20160324100310/https://bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2432&start=15 >In her initial appearances, Saffron was utterly useless. So much so that she was one of those slated to die in RtAI but that decision was repealed at the very last second and I'm glad it was. Now it's hard to picture her without Charmy by her side in the book. That's really a testament to what's been done (and what can be done in the future) with the character.
>Tails age-skip He's 41 in M25YL so actually 16 in the present. Also, Sonic's 47, making him 22 in the present
>The Iron Dominion Arc was a joke Sonic Sez Issue 30: " Behold, The King Of The Bumble!" >According to an interview with writer Ian Flynn, the Iron Dominion Takeover arc originated as a joke from a list of five potential pitches for arcs which issue #200 would lead into. The fifth pitch, which would eventually become the Iron Dominion Takeover, was created simply to make the list larger, and to allow for one of the other pitches to be accepted easier. Despite this, the fifth pitch would be the one approved by editor Mike Pellerito, and as such, Flynn would modify it into the Iron Dominion Takeover.
>Cut death of Snively https://web.archive.org/web/20101124071754/http://www.kenpenders.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=122 >SONIC: LAST MAN STANDING (SONIC #165) - Antoine pops THE question to Bunnie. Unfortunately, she’s not able to respond before the gang has to go off on a mission to shut down Robotnik’s power plant before a meltdown in the core. While Sonic does all he can to ensure a safe ending for all, circumstances dictate a sacrifice on someone’s part, and Snively ends up proving he had more moxie than anyone ever gave him credit for. (16 pages if 1 issue or 2 11-page stories if spread over two issues)
>Rotor's older brother Turns out he was mentioned on the Archie website but never made it into the comic https://web.archive.org/web/20090215012753/http://www.archiecomics.com/sonic/allabout_sonic.html
>LNR + SNE From Sonic the Hedgehog #134: >On page ten, there appears to be a carving on a tree beside Knuckles that reads "LNR + SNE". Jon Gray has stated that this stood for "Live Nude Robotnik + Sexy Nekkid Eggman". This is in reference to Sonic the Hedgehog #108, "Robotnik x2 = Trouble".
About lost media there is a sketch from issue #0 first page using eggman western box art (the one who looks like Game Eggman with void eyes) just like the cover. Not archie but i remember Richard Elson art (or was another artist?) of Satam Robotnik for Fleetway Couldn't find it now.
>>18593 There's seem to be a bit of crossover with Spider-Man & Sonic on the creative end. What's next, Penders worked on an 80s issue of Web Of or Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man?
>>18594 >every copy of Sonic #14 is personalized Is referring to the unused cover or is just the SM64 meme? >charmy bee blood + censorship >Mammoth Mogul TV show these two i don't get Can't believe i recognized almost all of them. I need help.
>>18605 >Is referring to the unused cover or is just the SM64 meme? It's technically true that every copy is personalized since (you) are supposed to fill in the "Do-It-Yourself" Sonic story's dialogue and mail it in to win a prize. They revealed the winners in issue #23. They're also referring to the SM64 meme >Mammoth Mogul TV show After Penders successfully(?) sued Archie, Scott Fulop through his company Narrative Ark decided to sue over the rights to his characters as well, and quickly knocked together a website where he claimed to be making a cartoon, comic and trading cards, all starring Mammoth Mogul. I guess it strengthens your case if you can demonstrate you're using the characters?
>>18605 >charmy bee blood + censorship In the infamous KtE #15 comic where Charmy's cousin dies of a drug overdose, they perform surgery on Charmy but his blood's purple because they wouldn't be allowed to show red blood. In the reprints they removed the blood completely
>>18601 Yeah, Sally went through so many designs it's no surprise he wasn't sure what to draw there. Also, most of issue 0's pencils and script was done in like one day so it was a massive rush >Not archie but i remember Richard Elson art (or was another artist?) of Satam Robotnik for Fleetway There was some Bri'ish promotional art based on an earlier draft of SatAM where it was the original animal companions as Sonic's friends and Nicole was a computer monitor with wheels. Maybe that's it? >>18604 >Parker finds out he's the latest in a long line of Spider-based superheroes >his parent's aren't dead, but living in Spideropolis >Way more focus on Jameson I'd read it!
>>18612 >There was some Bri'ish promotional art based on an earlier draft of SatAM where it was the original animal companions as Sonic's friends and Nicole was a computer monitor with wheels. Maybe that's it? I think I found it! This is from Fleetway's Sonic the Poster Magazine
>>18613 this is the original pitch that DIC showed to Sega. Wonder if this after or before human Sally and troll Robotnik designs Lol at brits being out of date and thinking Porker or Johnny will be important characters. >>18615 she looks like a cat
>>18617 I think the closest is the DCAU with JLU & Static Shock plus The Batman. Remember the Bat-Embargo? Besides that there was Spider-Man '81, then SM & His Amazing Friends. And then Mario had the Super Show, then Adventures of SMB3 then SMW but they were in succession.
>>18616 Considering the Segas of America, Japan and Europe were all essentially independent companies that liked to put their own spin on things, and that they commissioned two separate cartoons (well, three with Underground, and four with the Man of the year short in Sonic Jam) and two separate comics (well, three if you include the French one, and four if you include the German electricity company one), it's surprising that any of it's recognizably Sonic. I can certainly see why they went with a single canon in Adventure >>18618 >this is the original pitch that DIC showed to Sega. Ah, that makes sense >Wonder if this after or before human Sally and troll Robotnik designs Has to be after, there's no way Sega would've approved Trollbotnik >Lol at brits being out of date and thinking Porker or Johnny will be important characters. I mean, they were in Fleetway! >>18619 >DCAU with JLU & Static Shock plus The Batman Those all shared a universe at least (more or less) >Remember the Bat-Embargo? Another case of "kids can't handle there being more than one version of a character at the same time" nonsense. It's not like the 90s Batman films really fit in with the cartoons at the time! >Mario had the Super Show Live action and cartoon Mario existing in the same show was so bizarre. At least they used the same voice >>18620 Yeah, the one we ended up with was great, but it is funny that they actually gave her less clothes in the final design. Redhead Sally obviously best Sally though
>>18621 JLU & Static were in the DCAU, The Batman was it's own thing. I also hate how brand synergy and brand "confusion" is used by those jackasses. It's why we lost Earth's Mightest Heroes.
https://x.com/MeanBeanStudios/status/1921880588132155526 >Trying to get some basic redesigns down for a potential Sonic Future Rewrite. Gonna be some old and new faces 👀 I don't remember Sally being in the original.
>>18610 >>18611 >Charmy's cousin dies of a drug overdose That has to be the craziest part of Archie. Even Titan Tails is at least trying to be an epic adventure, and THE SLAP is just relationship drama done badly, but having Charmy Bee's cousin die of an LSD overdose? That's unbelievably out there, even for Archie.
>>18628 >Angel Island/Echidaopolis has a drug epidemic. >The Chaotix get high >The Brotherhood doesn't do anything. I mean it was nice to see Julie & Remington in action but yeah that story was way out there.
>>18622 Nice! >>18623 Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that one. As a kid what confused me more than anything was just how inconsistent things were about who could show up in what. Some cartoons would have Superman sometimes show up, and others would act like Batman was the only crime fighter on the planet >It's why we lost Earth's Mightest Heroes. I'm still mad! Easily my favorite Marvel cartoon (that isn't x-men, but that one will always win out for me due to the theme song) >>18624 Huh. I've only watched the original (for the plot of course!), but I'll have to check these out >>18626 Just think, they could easily x100 their revenue in Japan simply by finding 100 new fans willing to buy the games! >>18627 Oh boy, here we go again! >I don't remember Sally being in the original. She was in the original original though. She even has a creepy robot baby with Sonic! Hisss! https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-08-28-dear-future-husband/ >>18628 The whole issue's so bizarre, since the b-plot with best boy Remington and Julie-Su is actually pretty good, but the premise being the most fucked up anti-drug PSA isn't something it could ever really recover from. People meme up the LSD overdose, but Penders dedicating an entire page to a bored surgeon graphically slicing up Charmy Bee while making small-talk was the really messed up part for me. You could just drop that page entirely and the plot would be the same. There was no need to include it!
Another thing that's always bugged me is that it doesn't even work as an anti-drug PSA. Even ignoring the fact that LSD isn't addictive and almost impossible to OD on, Charmy's cousin never intended to take drugs so if anything it reads more like a roofie PSA. Hilariously, there were several Sonic Says segments that covered this far better for Penders to copy!
>>18630 >I mean it was nice to see Julie & Remington in action but yeah that story was way out there. My thoughts exactly! I really need to hit refresh before I post ;_;
>>18632 >Huh. I've only watched the original (for the plot of course!), but I'll have to check these out The 2D one is by Kevin Smith. I know the first season made a lot of people mad but apparently the second season is better. The 3D one I've heard is actually much better. There's also the 2000s show which is really good. >She was in the original original though. She even has a creepy robot baby with Sonic! Hisss! I remember that. I do wonder who Sally will be shipped with if anyone. Sonic and Shadow will 100% be sharing Zee again and Amy was with Rouge.
>>18632 >Penders dedicating an entire page to a bored surgeon graphically slicing up Charmy Bee while making small-talk was the really messed up part for me. You could just drop that page entirely and the plot would be the same. There was no need to include it! It's like when he used that "First they came..." poem for hedgehogs and echidnas, or pretty much any of his attempts at maturity really. You wonder if Penders has ever had a conversation with an actual human.
>Even ignoring the fact that LSD isn't addictive and almost impossible to OD on Oh damn, I hadn't even known that. That makes it even funnier.
>Charmy's cousin never intended to take drugs so if anything it reads more like a roofie PSA. You're right, that evil rabbit dude put LSD into carnival food. Penders wanted to do an anti-drug addiction PSA but he couldn't even get the "addiction" part right. Knowing Penders he'd have had characters point out the addict's behaviors were bad but throw a shitfit if the addict ever got any comeuppance, like he did with Locke.
>>18648 >>18649 Did the Shadow manga for a magazine available only in Japan do well enough to continue this? They must've agreed to a set amount and this is the next story that's part of it.
I was reading the /fast/ general and it turns out my (non-Echidna) husbando Maekawa is back writing games after 15 years! I've never played any of the Rune Factory games, but I'll definitely be giving Guardians of Azuma a shot Rune Factory: Guardians of Azuma - Story Trailer >>18634 I saw a few of the 2000s one and they were great. Now I want to marathon all of them >I remember that. I do wonder who Sally will be shipped with if anyone. Sonic and Shadow will 100% be sharing Zee again and Amy was with Rouge. My bet is it'll be Sally x Amy x Rouge, a triple hiss if you will! >>18637 >Dobbyn knows who Bump is lmao >>18638 I think he was too busy trying to be Jack Kirby and forgot to think whether he should be Ken Penders >You wonder if Penders has ever had a conversation with an actual human. I feel bad, but that one still cracks me up >Oh damn, I hadn't even known that. That makes it even funnier. Of all the illicit substances, it's the silliest one to pick. It's genuinely easier to overdose on asprin >spoiler Oh man, now I want to see the council of secret grandpas hold an intervention for Locke >>18646 Those boots look familiar >>18648 Oh boy, another manga we'll all get yelled at for reading! Remember everyone, the only legitimate way to read the Shadow manga is to learn Japanese, fly over there, and purchase it legitimately! >>18653 >that dialogue Oh my, they're practically married now! 😍 >>18654 Fact check: True! >>18655 Fact check: Also true!
>>18658 And that's it for the first chapter! Looks like they're taking a break to work on the second chapter and are going to go with a manga style in future
>>18347 The Heart of a Monster 10-19 https://thoam.the-comic.org/comics/405 It's probably fine, being (half of) the spirit of the Earth makes him immune to Earth magma right?
>>18656 It's a mobian version of Nicole from ZZZ. I've been getting into it recently (not directly playing it though, gacha ain't for me) for two main reasons: 1. Pan Yinhu (and some other anthro characters who may become playable including a wolf twunk that you may like TP) 2. Lycaon's got himself a metrosexual, vampire but not really, Phantom Thief, Twink ex-boyfriend (pic related)
Also in non-sonic but gacha related news, Fuga: Melodies of Steel is collabing with Crave Saga, an adult gaycha (that may be up your alley, TP) Heres's the tweet: https://x.com/CraveSaga/status/1922994607568060772 Before anyone here freaks out, there is a SFW verison of Crave Saga, they're most likely going to the collab through.
>>18484 Stay tuned for more Drogune, more problems at 7pm EST today, whether (you) like it or not! I've come up with a new method for extracting and cleaning up manga-style images from pdfs so it's looking really nice >>18664 I thought the outfit looked familiar! I've not played it, but I do like all the lewd art of Von Lycaon! Pan Yinhu looks great too >>18665 >Fuga: Melodies of Steel is collabing with Crave Saga That's really cool, even if it ends up sfw. I really do need to get around to playing the Fuga games >Crave Saga >cute bara guy gets isekai'd into a world exclusively populated with hot guys, some of which are anthros >literally everyone's tummy is on full display lmao, this is 100% the sort of game I'd make myself >that pic Oh my! >>18724 It's called foreplay! >>18725 The algorithm™ truly is a capricious beast. On the bright side it could always be Sonamy! I'm still getting those AI-generated naked ladies on deviantart ;_;
>>18475 Team Dark Supernova Odyssey 4-09 https://teamdarksupernovaodyssey.tumblr.com You know, it's not nice to enter your older brother's room without his permission Shadow
>>18367 Teaching of Fear 7-21 https://www.deviantart.com/ora-ivory/art/Teaching-of-Fear-Issue-7-Page-21-1193646784 Hey, Silver's actually being useful!
>>18368 Nectar: The World Before 115 previous was 114 https://www.deviantart.com/icys I mean, it's been pretty obvious the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald are at least a little sentient, so the Time Stones being sentient as well shouldn't be that odd
>>18726 There's a whole market for bara-based gachas's, TP! Housamo, Live a Hero, and Crave Saga aren't the only ones! there's Tamacolle, Anothereidios, and XXL Woofia for the gays, bi's and bara obsessed fujo's and yume's! Also, have you found your Housamo/Live a Hero husbandos yet? Double also, your reaction to the Fuga/Crave Saga collab has been A LOT better than what I've seen from the LTB community, Especially the western side
>>18734 Wow, looks like I've got a lot of research to do! >Also, have you found your Housamo/Live a Hero husbandos yet? Tadatomo's great, but I think everyone picks him. Bigfoot's hot, and I like that Bertro looks like he could be a Gunvolt villain. Otter's pretty cute too >spoiler I think that just because a developer makes erotic bara games doesn't mean any collab they do will focus on that. My guess is at most there'll be more focus on romance and some beefy guys will be added to Fuga's roster >>18735 Considering Splats wasn't cut until late in development, they didn't even have a finished game when SoA commissioned this comic >>18736 I think the idea was to launch the comic, game and cartoons at the same time so they could cross-promote. As long as the comic's cover had a blue hedgehog named Sonic on it, the rest is just details. I complain a lot about Sega, but SoA definitely knew what they had with Sonic, and went all out promoting it. To this day, Sonic's more recognizable than Micky Mouse >>18737 It's probably miscommunication. We saw the same thing with SoA's toasty Tails, which only happened because they misinterpreted Tails' color from the Japanese design >>18738 >>18739 >reprint changes sally's hair to blonde Archie really never could settle on a single look for Sally >>18740 If we're going with the classic cartoon, Rogue and Gambit are easily my favorite characters (after Wolverine of course)
>>18783 Ah, I should've looked at the filename. The original comic had blonde sally, the Sonic Super Special reprint (which I mistook for the original) got changed to brown, and the recolor for the TPB was switched back to blonde. Sally truly is a menace!
>>18785 >2004 I do love the early 00s style of Sonic art. I have no idea if she's holding the end of a gamecube controller or one of those brain jack cables from Ghost in the Shell
Her Heroes outfit is seriously underrated, much more futuristic spy than the original, even if the original is more iconic. I'd have kept the love hearts on the shoe tips though. Switching to wedges from heels was a mistake, I'd have gone for a box heel like the original
Oh and fun fact: Sonic Channel is the only official media that still draws Rouge with cleavage. It's not as horny as their early art (particularly December 2013), but it's still there at least
>>18786 Forgot to mention that Rouge's Heroes outfit is also nice because it's a much closer match to the design language of Shadow and Omega. The gloves and shoes are similar to Shadow's, and the square kneepads and belt with tech pouches match Omega's waist. The purple main color with pink and white highlights also works better with Shadow and Omega's black main color with red and white (and gold) highlights
Knuckles and the Chaotix Issue 3 Page 18 https://mobiuscomics.com/knuckles
Fights Sonic and seems to become a friendly rival of some kind to him. Gets betrayed by Julie-Su yet still feels attraction for her. Bros, I think there’s something wrong with Knuckles. But honestly, Knuckles would prefer a defiant Julie-Su than an always apologetic one. And he’s been wanting that kiss for a while. Just no more shooty, please.
>>18788 Awww, they're so cute together! >I don't have any pockets Well, there's always nature's pocket. No, not that one! Male and female Echidna both have pouches on their abdomen, although only the female pouch is large enough to hold their young Oh and as for storing things, Sonic characters canonically have access to hammerspace, which is where Amy stores her hammer and Tails stores his iPad. Interestingly, if you freezeframe the Unleashed opening animation, Sonic actually manifests all 7 chaos emeralds out of his third eye
>>18791 Yeah, that period is absolutely perfect! A Bright and Shiny Future is absolute peak Sonic fancomic art for me, pic related >>18792 He really needs to knock it off with the vlogs >>18793 Such an odd combination, but really cool. We talked about energy swords in the other thread but the one from Halo is seriously underrated. They did a great job making it distinct from lightsabers, and the grip making it a punching sword instead of a stabbing sword is pretty funny
In the Archie comics, King Maximilian couldn’t catch a break. He was betrayed so much that his biggest betrayer, Robotnik, betrayed Naugus and Kodos after they betrayed their king. As for Kodos, he was the military commander for the Acorn Kingdom. A bloodthirsty warmonger, he committed various atrocities. This time around, he’s given more of an edge and chance to do something worse. But this is all in the past. What ultimately came of him?
Sonic and the Freedom Fighters Issue 8 Page 5 https://mobiuscomics.com
Sally saying her opponent talks talking too much is a callback to her fight with Brutus. In fact, Metal Sonic was pretty talkative during his race with Sonic. What is it with Eggman and his creations not shutting up? And is this the end of AI Sally? Well, there’s a hint in her name.
>>18807 Considering how Sonic and Shadow are more or less forbidden from killing in IDW, and that Batman outright refuses to kill, this is one crossover where the Joker's life is actually in danger as game Shadow (and Sonic) absolutely would kill him
Also, ABT did a fantastic job on Shadow's outfit, 10/10
>>18808 Having the Teen Titans be Chaotix-related was a great choice, and Knuckles would make an excellent Green Lantern >>18810 Oh man, the artist must have had a hard time working out what was going on with Kodos' half-punk, half-Santa hair. Oh and while I can't prove it, Kodos (like the alien from the Simpsons) was 100% named after the Star Trek villain https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kodos >>18811 Beats Grifone! >>18818 lmao, Sonic's Mom('s new boyfriend)'s got it going on! >>18821 Oh man, there is so much worse out there when it comes to Sonic (nsfw, obviously): https://e621.net/posts?tags=sonic_the_hedgehog_(series)+order%253Ascore_asc It's seriously weird how common stepparent incest is in porn >>18825 Absolutely loving this more active Sally >What is it with Eggman and his creations not shutting up? I suspect he's lonely and while he'll never admit it, he deliberately programs his henchmen to sass him
>>18409 S.T.C Issue 24 Page 6 https://www.deviantart.com/okida/art/S-T-C-Issue-24-Page-6-1197671070 I guess they weren't exaggerating when they said there'd be dino-bots
This just in, IDW introduces another not-twink, not-bara, and not-babe character >>18839 Grimlock really changed ever since he started listening to those doomsday prepper shows >>18840 lmao
>>18842 man, been way to long since been on here, haven't even got any new comms of a Sonic nature to show....yet. Also just gotta say not a fan of this design honestly, i'm still waiting on new reptiles for fucks sake and especially since Zootopia 2 opened the floodgates for reptile representation in it's setting.
The full version of the official and canon Sonadow animation just dropped Well, it's proxy Sonadow Sonic Presents: Chao Tales (All Episodes) >>18843 Yeah, we already have Sonic dressed as a jester (and not to mention NiGHTS). Also, we already had Fastidious Beaver in Boom, ain't no way they're topping that with this new beaver. A reptile or aquatic creature would be so much better considering 95% of the cast are woodland mammals >Zootopia 2 Man, I need to get around to watching that. I really liked the first one
>>18844 I would kill for an aquatic creature to, also Zootopia 2 at least looks more interesting then Lilo and Stitch live action which will inevitably fuck up the story, characterization and plot utterly in some form. Actually rewatched the original this week and that film is still a 10/10 classic, weird Jumba design edits aside though it's just a funny odd detail that even as a kid confused me.
>>18826 Sonic's got bigger problems with Sally when they reunite. >>18832 >Absolutely loving this more active Sally Yeah people have been really liking Sally on that page.
Gonna pass on doing a storytime tonight. Was going to post some J-Axer comics from checks notes 27 years ago, but not really feeling it. Good news though, an anon's done a surprise storytime for us! >>18921 >>18845 Exactly! There's an entire ocean we've yet to explore, and more reptiles is a great excuse to go to places that aren't just generic European-esque village 47 and abandoned Eggman base 52. I've been avoiding all the live action remakes because I've never not been disappointed seeing them >Jumba design edits Yeah, that was weird >>18846 I'm struggling to think of any reoccurring male OCs in IDW that aren't women. The gay birds don't count (because they're boring), and Whisper's hot former teammates are all dead (and will be staying that way thanks to Flynn's dead means dead policy). You win Iizuka, I'd be happy with some male OC Zetis >>18847 Penders' colorist does a pretty good job and is obviously a huge Sonic fan. I suspect the guy's actually pretty young and is not charging a lot for his work >>18848 I think you mean Artemis the Rhino from the hit graphic novel The™ Lara™-Su™ Chronicles!™ >>18849 >Yeah people have been really liking Sally on that page. It's nice to have the version of Sally that's could've been in Archie >>18956 Now there's a blast from the past! I remember almost nothing of the plot, but Knuckles was definitely handsome. Pic related! In case anyone wants to catch up: https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-05-14-sonic-the-hedgehog-z/ And I just realized I fucked up many of the thread links on the website ;_;
>>18959 Man, I can't even list all the crazy potential hero or villain ideas that spring from the ocean as a setting. Could have like a Hammerhead shark blacksmith or engineer, a beluga chap who's a genius yet also a cheeky goofball. Could have a Goliath Tigerfish as like an undersea South African criminal type pastiche or bobbitworm who's like a freaky weirdo akin to a violent yet vacuous madman and lastly could have a blue ringed octopus who's something of a shrinking violet cause of the poisonous nature of the species. Also I do think a unique Zeti villain who is different from the deadly six either visually or power wise would actually be pretty cool.
Knuckles and the Chaotix Issue 3 Page 19 https://mobiuscomics.com/knuckles
Turns out that there are some people in the Dark Legion that genuinely care about Julie-Su. Time to learn more about this wishy washy girl while the entire Dark Legion camp is under attack!
>>18961 Adopted parents, the most moral, loving and actually good as family in a Sonic setting. There's rare exceptions but adopted families in Sonic seem to have a consistent not shit rate.
>>18960 Funny how the various series/comics do have some aquatic mobians. Archie had the 40 Fathom FF & Meropolis, AoSTH had that mermaid girl and did Fleetway had anyone based off of fish besides the Drakon?
>>18960 That's what makes Sonic such a fun series, you can just take relatively obscure animals and make them into something really cool >Also I do think a unique Zeti villain who is different from the deadly six either visually or power wise would actually be pretty cool. Yeah, that'd be fun. Controlling mechs did feel like a lazy plot device in Lost World. One that has their own agenda that isn't that weird might makes right/survival of the fittest thing they ended up with in IDW would be interesting >>18961 I'll bet no one guessed we'd be meeting Julie-Su's parents first and not Knuckles! >>18962 Yeah, it's a nice touch >>18963 There's best boy Razor, who's a shark in Archie, but I don't recall any in Fleetway >>18967 To play Iblis' advocate, those models look pretty rough. Knuckles' arms clip right through his dreads and Shadow has this weird claymation look to him (and his gloves and rings are not on model either). Even the emerald looks off, which is kinda impressive when you consider it's only like 30 polygons >>18968 They keep the cleavage visible in the Sonic Channel art, and they did do a good job on her personality in Prime (for the 5 seconds she was on screen) at least
>>18727 Team Dark Supernova Odyssey 4-10 https://teamdarksupernovaodyssey.tumblr.com Looks like Shadow's about to be an uncle! I always assumed the Biolizard was male, but I don't think we ever got clarification on that
>>18732 Nectar: The World Before 117 Maybe just read the filenames for the page numbers, I clearly can't ;_; https://www.deviantart.com/icys On second thought, having Tails do Silvers' thinking is probably a good thing
https://x.com/sonic_legacy/status/1926751533451948228 >Sonic Legacy Issue 14 cover teaser and synopsis! >Title: Tailgating >Synopsis: >Following the failed relaunch of the Death Egg, Sonic is falling back to Angel Island, speeding towards a mushroom covered forest, giving him a much-needed moment to collect his thoughts; he can’t tell if it's fear or excitement that’s keeping him going. Sonic’s feeling the burn of this constant pursuit; no matter how much he chases him, something else gets in his way, leaving him just out of reach. Just when it seems like it's getting to be too much, he reminds himself of the promises he made. He has a job to do, and he intends to see it through. The only problem is… what’s he gonna do when Eggman can’t run anymore?
Finally got round to rewatching Owls of Ga'Hoole and my opinions still stand. Soren X Gylfie otp, Klud was down bad for Nyssa and his villain arc was done well if could've used some more time showing him and his brother before his joining the racial supremacy movement and there's some other faults the film has but overall I still have a soft spot for it...though Rio is still my fave animated bird film.
>>18975 should be a hard rule for Sonic characters going forward that they can't be mammals, marsupials or rodents since have enough of their kind in the setting, if I was head of Sega/Sonic Team that'd be my tyrannical mandate besides curvy babes.
Also yeah honestly i'd be cool with more Zeti material since the Black Arms are the only other notable alien antagonists and they have actual variety. A new Zeti villain who isn't in a gang like the Deadly Six could instead of being a Social Darwinist like them instead be someone who's deal is instead empowering others with his powers but tends to make them indulge in their worst habits and lose inhabitations. Like obviously still a dangerous villain but one who genuinely wants to help others with his methods with no self benefit.
>>18985 I like the Ga'Hoole movie too (good cast and gorgeous visuals, decent story), but some of the fantasy dialogue is a bit odd. >Owls steer with their gizzard, so they say "Trust in your gizzard!" instead of "Trust in your heart!" >use "moon-blinking" as the fantasy term for hypnotizing
I don't envy the actors who have to deliver crazy fantasy dialogue like that. Alec Guinness complained about the "fairy tale mumbo-jumbo" from the Star Wars OT, I can only imagine how he'd react if you asked him to talk about "midichlorians" or "moon-blinking."
One thing I liked about the Sonic movies was that the characters could sell dialogue about "warp rings" and "Chaos energy" without sounding silly.
>>18988 It's funny to me that this film is when Snyder peaked, that aside yeah the visuals and acting for the film is utterly top notch and managed to make the characters really likeable despite some not getting to do much or the animation doing a lot to sell them though I do think Soren is a really solid main character all around. Actually did remind me how Longclaw is a very Ga'Hoole esque character and that direction really is what helped me define her in my AU stuff/redesign for her. Might be fun to commission her in full bird armour with the talon knifes which also props to the film for figuring how to do action scenes with birds and how to make them able to use weapons. Also I've not read the books so can't say much on how Ga'Hoole changes or adapts things but I know the books are such more violent and have even more crazy fantasy dialogue like a bird telling someone to "sprink on their spronk" if I recall correctly
>>18989 >It's funny to me that this film is when Snyder peaked Yeah, none of his superhero films were all that interesting IMO. I liked Zod from Man of Steel, but the film itself is deeply flawed.
>characters really likeable despite some not getting to do much or the animation doing a lot to sell them though I do think Soren is a really solid main character all around. Agreed, Soren is a good character. I like that he's not the Chosen One or anything; he's just an ordinary guy trapped in a crazy situation who manages to rise to the occasion.
>Actually did remind me how Longclaw is a very Ga'Hoole esque character and that direction really is what helped me define her in my AU stuff/redesign for her. Might be fun to commission her in full bird armour Ooh, I'd like that. Longclaw was a fun character and I'd be interested to see your fanart.
>props to the film for figuring how to do action scenes with birds and how to make them able to use weapons. That's a good point; they do make the weapons and armor on the owls look credible. They must've studied how owls move.
>I know the books are such more violent and have even more crazy fantasy dialogue like a bird telling someone to "sprink on their spronk" if I recall correctly I think you're right, the films might've toned things down if anything.
>>18984 I really like this issue. It's mostly just Flying Battery from S&K in comic form, but it's doing Sonic things in comic form, and that's pretty great.
>>19001 Its like the meme says, its always about the potential of what could have been. Just like how people like to hype up Blaze expecting her and her world to ever get developed beyond the info we were given from a 20 year old DS game.
>>18986 Yeah, there's so many interesting species they could choose from >spoiler lmao, I actually agree. All the lady OCs they've been making lately in IDW have been frumpy and boring. Tangle, Surge (in her Riders outfit) and Lanolin are the only ones that actually look cool >zeti That'd be a lot of fun! I really like the idea of having villains filling in different niches so the writers can tell stories that wouldn't work with Eggman. The Social Darwinist thing was just weird, when Oni are never depicted like that >>18987 100% canon >>18991 Another pair of cursed Eggman/Robotnik eyes for the collection! >>18996 lmao. That's gotta be old Usenet posts that were archived by google >>18999 Now do it for Nazo! At least Dark Sonic actually showed up! >>19001 It's the only time we've seen a corrupted Sonic in the Japanese side of the franchise, which is kinda interesting. I personally don't like it as game Sonic is completely unflappable and would never succumb to anger like that. Even Darkspine Sonic isn't corrupted in Secret Rings >>19002 Sort of. Ben Hurst originally wanted to do another season, and then when he heard about the new show tried to get them to let him retool it as a SatAM sequel, but it never really worked out. You can see the remnants with the King Acorn statue in the opening credits. DiC really wanted a cartoon with a musical trio that they'd own the song rights to. Tamers has pointed this out a few times but they eventually realized their vision with the Doodlebops, which is why they're antagonists in the Tamersverse >>19003 The ninja HBH was such a hassle in Mania. Knuckles just doesn't jump high enough >>19006 ;_; >>19009 Nice! >>19012 So lazy! >>19016 Personally I consider it self-cest. Zavok is just a slightly less attractive Bowser and I'm tired of pretending he's not!
>>19018 Oh I meant my mandate was that there has to be curvy girls but poor wording on my part and also yeah IDW does need more new male characters honestly. Also yeah I genuinely wouldn't mind the Zeti as a species being used more or fleshed out.