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>>4822
FREDDY FAZBEAR!
"O cholera czy to Freddy fazbear" but its 4K 120FPS

>>4834
Look at that smile in the top-right, he's so cute! I've actually got a short Remington storytime I've been meaning to put together. Turns out someone else was a fan of best boy too!

This guy makes some good points
Sonic Fans Vs. Criticism

>>4868
I hate these guys so damn much

Looks like someone's going to storytime TLSC over on 4/co/ tonight
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/144318885#p144330042
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/144318885/#144330042
>>4870
Let's hope there's an invincibility item box nearby!
>>4872
The original Robotnik x Stone!

>>4877
This is like his adopted mom in this right?

>>4878
Yeah, both his parents are adopted

>>4879
lol

>Cloudflare robot check
>"Please wait a while before making a post" message with 60 second cooldown.
>Captcha on top of it
>The first 2 steps can repeat themselves up to 5 times before reaching the captcha

I only found out recently how phone posting became fucking unbearable on that website.

>>4880
You know what I mean!
>>4882
It's really bad, even on desktop. Any time you clear your cookies, and sometimes when you get a new IP (which happens a lot if your home broadband uses CGNAT or you're on mobile). Essentially, your cookies need to build up a reputation before they'll stop sending the cloudflares and the harder captchas with the black circles. I absolitely loathe the cloudflare pre-captcha, since it barely ever works the first time. There have been times I just gave up on posting in a thread because it wasn't worth the effort

>>4904
>>4846
Do people not read the thread

>>4847
>>4903
Like seriously wtf are you doing

So someone already got ahold of issue 70 early. I
Sonic IDW Issue 70
Oh boy, lanolin seethe is going to sky rocket

>>4919
>people repeating a unfunny joke?
This is the correct answer

>>4919
Bartleby looks like a dude who would challenge Antoine or Elias to a duel. Glove slap and all.

>>4920
Can't believe Belle is back and they used her as a sex doll for the guards

>>4925
To think the Jack & the Sand Blasters would return to the comics like that.

>>4920
That actually wasn't such a bad issue. Pretty action-heavy, all of the characters get moments to shine, there's no melodramatic crying, and it looks like the plot is starting to go somewhere.

7/10.

>>4933
KEK

>>4920
I do like that Tails and Amy are going as a duo, is nice when that happens.

Ken Penders in a Nutshell

https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/2022-202x-current-saga/sonic-the-hedgehog-70/

It's out. Feel like story timin' so I'll go do it on 4/co/ but I'll still attend yours here, conductor.

>>4959
Thanks! I'll do it today at the usual time.

>>4950
I hope it's mlp, if only because it's been fun doing the Tamers threads over there instead of 4/co/. Ideally I'd love an official TMNT crossover, and no that one cameo in Archie doesn't count!
>>4965
I thought the thread went pretty well, thanks anon! I did actually enjoy the comic, even if it spent too much time breaking up the action with boring conversations
>>4966
Second best crack ship in Archie, after Max x Locke
>>4967
As is tradition!

I swear 4chan is even slower than ever. So many threads that are days old and a lot of them are nowhere close to hitting bump limit. And the storytime threads are able to be kept alive a lot easier.

>>4969
This is probably the biggest cause
>>4882

>>4986
Got lazy. That's the answer. Some time he went "fuck improvement!" and never recovered

>>4981
>>4984
The most telling thing was removing poster count.
>>4986
Even his early Sonic art wasn't that bad. Awkward at most. That coloring doesn't help. I'd say flat coloring would do better.

Q:Recently, I heard a theory that the "two worlds" is actually a mistranslation and that Izuka really meant something more metaphorical than literal. Has SEGA clarified to you that it is in fact two separate planets or dimensions, or is that just an assumption you are going with? From what I can tell in the games, the idea that the human "world" is made separate from the furry "world" could just be that Sonic Team doesn't think humans fit the flavor of the games they are making, not that they literally exist in another dimension.

>Ian: I have seen that attempt to rationalize things and it's very insightful, it just shows the level of nuance in translating between 2 different languages and how things can go very wrong very fast. Kudos to the person for making that effort. HOWEVER, I have been instructed at multiple points in my career that it is "literally" two different planets. I received a series bible toward the end of the Archie Sonic days that specified that they are two different planets in two different dimensions. When we were starting the IDW book, I specifically asked about how are we going to set things up for the book, what can we use, where are we setting it, and it was explained that yes, it's two different planets that are accessed via secret giant rings which we have never seen, which are never referenced but that's the explanation I was given so...It's like the Silver thing, I see fans bending over backwards trying their best to make it work when *inhale* it doesn't, and it makes me sad. There's so much love and creativity in the fandom and I hate to be the party pooper saying "You're wrong." I kinda wonder if I should just stop. [Laughter] If that's what works for you just go with it, because I don't feel like anyone is being happy with these answers.
Skimming the thread because reading too much makes my brain degrade but thanks to the anon that posted this. So Sega is that dumb and water is wet. Would be nice if there was a source like a time stamp for a video.

>>4994
BumbleKast Q&A for August 10th, 2020

found it

>>4995
Nice! Always good to have a source in case someone doubts it. But I can still see someone saying Ian is mistaken and SoJ would never come up with random rules with no explanation.

>>4997
Vinny isn't doing Fireworks Mania this year because he's not streaming on July 4. Maybe he'll do it tonight. Otherwise no.

Have you guys seen this ?
>To all the folks who love Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog, have I got news for you - an upcoming free fancomic, with a 20-year lost script and story by Jon W. Gray, and art by
@Jens_Drawings
! 20 years in the making, we're bringing you the best of the best.
https://x.com/CMYK_Avenger/status/1808603589092520033
https://cmykavenger.com/index.php/2024/07/03/the-last-archie-sonic-story-loose-continuity/

>>4997
Not American and there's a hurricane heading towards my town, I'll be lucky if still have electricity by the weekend

>>4999
This is cool! I didn't even know Jon Gray was also a writer.

>>5000
Stay safe!

>>5053
>when you have to let your crush get kissed by another woman so he can come back to life
Some next level NTR.

>>5067
No bird genocide?! NOOOOO

>>5069
I expected Dr. Fried Chicken!

>>4998
Oh what a welcome surprise he is streaming early and doing Fireworks Mania right now.

>>5085
>I'm Uncle Chuck and I WANT YOU......to come on down for our Summer Sizzler Meal Deals!! And for this weekend, try our Ultra Spicy Deluxe Challenge, the only dog too spicy for Sonic!!

>>5089
Remember that the goblins won in original STC lol

>>5089
>Tails only hope is the Nameless Zone
He's screwed.

>>5097
Lighting Lynx about to be dishonored and embarrassed. Again.

Sonic says: Fire works I saw were awesome!

>>5075
>>5074
Dammit, stop flirting with yourself.

I’ll be out of my place until later in the day so today’s storytime will be a couple hours later.

>>5121
On second thought I will post at the usual time. Not gonna stay out too long.

>>5120
Sally, we follow the Source of All hereA

>>5189
>somehow... eggman has returned

>>5192
She’s showing off her license to kill... and dtf

>>4911
Nice game style Ebony. I wonder about this whacky idea:
>Ebony is the mystic ally of Sonic and the FF. While not a member, she's usually their go to when magical issues need addressing. The biggest shock is that she's probably the only mage who uses Ixis Magicks and is NOT an asshole. Also come the Groovy Train, the best coffee spot on Mobius!

>>5197
Knuxouge seems to mog Shadouge by a wide margin

>>5198
It's funny, I can't see Rouge & Shadow as a couple per se but I could totally see her making out with him/maybe fucking once or twice. Just to loosen his ass up.

>>4986
I can't prove it, but I suspect he traced a lot of his Star Trek art from the episodes. I'm not gonna sit through all of ST:ToS just to find the scenes though mostly because I'm on team Picard
>>4988
You joke, but I'd watch the hell out of that
>>4991
>The most telling thing was removing poster count.
Can't have the advertisers think engagement is down! Also, they walked back email registration for /biz/. Now you can just wait 15 minutes before posting. Of course, the numbers are still down on pre-email levels. Whoops!
>>4994
I simply don't believe Flynn here. The Mystic Ruins (i.e., the crater Angel Island is from) are a train ride from Station Square, a human settlement (where Amy lives and no one freaks out about the talking pink cat thing). What they have had is games where there are only anthros (Forces, Lost World, Riders) and games where there are only humans (Unleashed, 06). That's just a style thing though, and they have likely mandated that since IDW is based off Forces, it'll be anthro only
>>4996
>But I can still see someone saying Ian is mistaken
Me! It's me!
>>4999
Nice!
>>5067
I guess he can't do another genocide while his friends are nearby ;_;
>>5074
Another cursed ship for my collection!
>>5097
Love the designs here
>>5100
Pew! Pew!
>>5130
I think we all know the real reason Amy won't be in the 3rd film. Movienic already has a crush on Keanu Reeves, and guess who's voicing Shadow?
>>5191
I wonder if it's N*ga, or if Eggman's mostly robot now
>>5192
She looks like she's showing off her SonKnux fanart!
>>5197
lmao
>>5198
It is the only canon ship
>>5199
They've refined it a bit from the end credits scene, which isn't surprising since they did that with Tails too
>>5200
They're probably FWB, but I don't see anything romantic there

>>5202
>I simply don't believe Flynn here. The Mystic Ruins (i.e., the crater Angel Island is from) are a train ride from Station Square, a human settlement (where Amy lives and no one freaks out about the talking pink cat thing). What they have had is games where there are only anthros (Forces, Lost World, Riders) and games where there are only humans (Unleashed, 06). That's just a style thing though, and they have likely mandated that since IDW is based off Forces, it'll be anthro only
A couple things to consider. First is when Ian got his information and what Sega might have decided on for the time being. We know they make decisions and mandate it without explaining it themselves. For the longest time all the games between the first Sonic game and Sonic Adventure were canon to the modern games. That's not how it is anymore. Also there's Sonic X where that was the case and that was pretty weird, especially when you think about Eggman and how he fit into it all.

>>5204
I think Sega are probably fairly vague with their answers to Flynn, and almost certainly don't explain their reasoning. Unfortunately, I think he tries to fill in the blanks behind their reasoning to make the podcast more interesting. I could see him asking about humans and them saying "no, there's no humans around in the Forces setting so don't include them in the comic."
>For the longest time all the games between the first Sonic game and Sonic Adventure were canon to the modern games. That's not how it is anymore.
All the mainline games are still canon, even though they may have wildly different tones. I will concede that many of the games were intended as jumping on points for new fans and so are light on direct continuity (06, Unleashed, Colors, Lost World). That said, every game has at least some callbacks to previous games, even ones like Team Sonic Racing, which mentions 06
>Also there's Sonic X where that was the case and that was pretty weird, especially when you think about Eggman and how he fit into it all.
Sonic X is weird in general since it's a case where Sega was given mandates of its own. The show was originally going to take place with just Sonic characters in an anthro city, but this was changed because the studio wanted things more relatable (anthros aren't as popular in Japan), so the main characters had to be human children from "our world." The easiest way to do this was to just have Sonic and friends be from another dimension. We only get one scene with non-game characters from Sonic's world (where some anthros bully Tails before he meets Sonic), but the third season does show humans and anthros living on multiple worlds
>especially when you think about Eggman and how he fit into it all
He makes one offhand comment about originally being from Earth, but it's frustratingly never brought up again. How did he get to Sonic's world? Why did he never go back home? How did Gerald make an anthro hedgehog when there are only humans on Earth? So frustrating!

>>5205
>Sonic's world
That's another thing supporting Ian's statement. Another instance of Sega saying that something is the way it is but not actually address it or give an answer. Ian can't call it Mobius anymore and it's referred to as Sonic's world. But if it's Earth then how come it can't be called that either? If it was called Earth in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, was it called that in other games? I know Ian tends to come to his own conclusions at times but when dealing with Sega, I can't blame him. But this time he said he was flat out told that's the way things were. So I'll take his word unless someone from Sega goes ACKSHUALLY and even then I'm not sure if that's just a revised answer given what Sega thinks now.

>>5206
It was also called Earth by Chip in Unleashed (so it's literally word of God that it's Earth), but Flynn has the issue of having to to crossovers with other Earths. Megaman's setting is our Earth, but in the future, the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games are also explicitly set on our Earth in the present, and Sonic sometimes goes racing with Danica Patrick from our Earth.

Sonic's version of Earth is obviously different from ours, the continents are in different places, and it's more fantastical in general. In the London Olympics game, they visit our world's Big Ben, but Sonic also visits the equivalent clocktower in Unleashed when he travels to Spagonia, only it's several times taller and has spinning death blades and laser beams.

I think Sega just wants him to call it Sonic's world since that's the easiest way to distinguish it from Megaman's world or our world. It's not literally Sonic's world well it technically is, since he's King Arthur, the once and future king

>But this time he said he was flat out told that's the way things were.
It really depends on how much of that he's embellishing, and who at Sega he's hearing it from. My guess is it's someone from licensing at SoA and they aren't given much to work with from SoJ. For me personally, the only source of game canon I consider is the actual games (and the Sonic Channel art), and they just don't support two worlds. Things like interviews with Iizuka and TailsTube are really only useful for clarifying existing knowledge

Sorry for going full Comic Book Guy about this, but I'm working on a secret project tying in all of the game locations to the map from Sonic Unleashed

>>5213
That is very possible that Ian gets his stuff from SoA who could be mistaken. But that just shows how much of a mess everything is. Like a game of telephone. At least we know it's one world. Still waiting on the humans to show up again. And thanks for explaining everything.

>>5215
He's in the M.E.? Verrry interesting.

>>5214
>That is very possible that Ian gets his stuff from SoA who could be mistaken.
If you look at IDW and Archie issues, there's always a special thanks to people from Sega licensing, who are from SoA. Now while Ian undoubtedly lies awake at night thinking about Sonic lore, it's probably just a job for these guys, where they crap out an occasional email to Ian between checking that the latest Yakuza store display has characters with the right amount of facial stubble
>But that just shows how much of a mess everything is.
It's 100% this. Sega and Nintendo have a better working relationship than SoA and SoJ. I think Ian's doing his best, even if he does embellish things to make his podcast more exciting and to intimate that he's closer to the source material than he actually is.
>Still waiting on the humans to show up again.
The real reason they haven't shown up is Sega being dumb enough to listen to "fan" criticism (and even worse, the complaints of videogame "reviewers"). Enough people online complained about the Pixar-style humans in Unleashed so they've spent the last decade trying to come up with something better. They didn't receive complaints about Sage, and they've been testing the waters with Sonic Channel art of Maria, Sage, Merlina and Elise in the new style. They've also been showing mixed human and anthro crowds in the art. My guess is the next new game (Sonadow Generations doesn't count) will have humans and anthros
>And thanks for explaining everything.
No worries!
>>5215
Archi's so dummy thicc, it's like a Tamers comic! I do like that he's got a little podium to stand on
>Oh, so that’s where Dimitri aka Enerjak is!
He's like car keys, always in the last place you look! Sticking him inside the ME is a really nice change that tidies up the lore while moving things closer to the games. The idea that a demigod got defeated by a collapsing building for 400 years was just dumb. I wonder if Tikal charges him rent?

>>5218
>>5214
>>4994
>>5202
The interview where Flynn said there were two worlds was from 2020 (see >>4995), so I think that might not be canon anymore.

https://tailschannel.com/features/analysis/two-worlds-what/

The fact that they ever pulled this "Two Worlds" bullshit after several games of Mobians and humans living together is such bullshit, though. This franchise is so cursed.

>>5224
It was never a thing though, they're just terrible and lazy when they communicate things with Flynn (because Sega is a disorganized dumpster fire that's constantly at war with itself)

If we look at Iizuka's (translated) quote from 2010:
>We have two different worlds for Sonic games – one is human, and one is set on the non-human side. Sonic Colours is set on the non-human side.
He's talking about humans and anthros living on different sides of the planet, which was clarified in Tailstube when Tails said humans live on the continents and anthros live on smaller islands

And from 2017:
>The world that Sonic lives in and the world the humans live in are separate worlds. But, some of the canon games do have Sonic and humans together, and part of that is based on what world is being portrayed when the game is developed. There are kind of different worlds that do exist and sometimes there’s some crossover.
It's worded awkwardly, but what I think he's trying to say that it's a stylistic thing to have either humans or anthros as background characters depending on the sort of story they want to tell, but they don't like mixing them for whatever (dumb) reason. I suspect the real reason is a mix of them not being confident in making human characters post Unleashed (>>5218), and them not having the budget/time/skill to design, model and animate both humans and anthros. Sonic Team's pretty much where they put their junior devs to learn the trade before moving on to a franchise they actually care about, because Sega knows the blue rat will move product even if the game isn't up to the standard of their other franchises

My two cents on the two worlds thing. Ian wasn’t lying or misunderstanding, it really was some dumb bullshit that existed at some point he has to deal with. Traveling through secret rings to travel between them? Reeks of ST. While thankfully it’s technically gone these days, the separation aspect hasn’t, and I’d argue it’s always been like that. You’d never really large groups of mobians and humans in the same place in the games. Only at a time and they’re just continuing it. Personally, hope we can just have both instead of any total separation.
>>5215
DMITRI WATCHES YOU FAP!

Ha, but this is cool. Explains right away why Knuckles doesn’t use the thing. Plenty of setup, but i enjoyed this first issue. Looking to be a spring board for the future adventures on the island and not just echidna grandpa meetings!

>>5228
>DMITRI WATCHES YOU FAP
>Rouge sees the Master Emerald and starts rubbing herself lovingly on it
>Dmitri: For once being trapped in this accursed thing isn't so bad.

>>5230
Kek

>>5232
On that device is the Dark Legion 's secrets. Or Lien-Da's porn.

>>5087
>McFly: Eggman's an asshole!

>>5243
AoSTH couldn't handle the NACKFORCE

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