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No.179
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Full issues, previews, discussion, fanart, etc.

This thread is for the IDW Sonic comics. So if that's all you want to talk about then you can do so here (you can still talk about IDW in the general thread). Let's start with Fang the Hunter #3. Why that? Because it just came out and I don't feel like posting the previous issues! But don't worry, here's links to the first two.

Fang the Hunter #1
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141741723
Fang the Hunter #2
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/142469903
No.181
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>>179
It's better than the last two issues. I suppose.
No.182
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>>181
Fang and his gang get in more trouble than our blue hedgehog friend.
No.183
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>>182
Eggman wants answers!
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Anonymous
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>>182
Someone mentioned it in the co thread but god why is bean is way too condescending to real unlikable for me
No.185
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>>183
Fang seems really fixated on this thing he barely knows about. Also, this guy that told him must be very trustworthy.
No.186
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>>185
Bond villain moment.
>>184
He is pretty different from even the earlier IDW issues with him.
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>>186
Honestly I think Bark can take 'em. They're just basic badniks that Sonic bops all the time.
No.188
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>>187
This is like the third time this has happened with the Heavies.
No.189
Anonymous
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>>186
>>187
Eggman being a cunt is based.
>>186
>He is pretty different from even the earlier IDW issues with him.
Yeah some may scream it's more like his original self! but he's just not that likeable in this series
No.190
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>>188
It's a deal!
No.191
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>>190
It's Sonic and Tails!
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>>191
For two pages!
>>189
>Yeah some may scream it's more like his original self! but he's just not that likeable in this series
Such a shame.
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>>192
Damn, Fang is smert!
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>>192
Get it? Because he's the tech guy!
No.195
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>>193
Pretty bold to be heading straight at a battleship like that.
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>>195
I mean, they have to know you're there. You didn't exactly try to be stealthy.
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>>196
I will say the egg robos pull that sailor outfit off!
>>194
Poggers!
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>>197
I did not care for this boss battle in Sonic Mania.
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Anonymous
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>>197
I really like Thomas's pencils. Underrated and probably one of my faves. Also I like how all these 2d game panels are basically homages to triple trouble special doing it
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>>198
Even begrudging villainous allies can work together!
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>>200
And so it was the Warp Topaz! Will Starline's corpse also appear?
>>199
It is pretty good and cartoony.
No.202
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>>201
Not my king!
No.203
Anonymous
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>>201
You know, obviously classicshit has been the past and even tho it's now it, theres still that separation so no way they would actually show starline but i could be surprised
No.204
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>>202
Okay it's not a chaos emerald but the fact it's something else makes it better. Since when is a chaos emerald so good? You need the other six to complete the set!
No.205
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>>204
Fang should've known that was going to be his response.
>>203
Killing off Starline was such a waste. At least let him stick around so Evan can use him.
No.206
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>>205
Have fun!
No.207
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>>206
And that's it!
No.208
Anonymous
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>>206
Being honest I never cared for the HBH much desu
No.209
Anonymous
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>>207
Thanks conductor
No.211
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>>208
They've been pretty one note. Work for Eggman, betray Eggman, get beaten, and taken back in by Eggman.
>>209
No problem.
No.212
Anonymous
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>>211
Kinda like the D6 but classic
No.213
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>>212
One of these days, someone will take Iizuka up on his offer and make zeti OCs to expand upon the race. And then get hit with a bunch of mandates and they'll have to be kept one dimensional like the Deadly Six and that person will have learned a valuable lesson.
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Anonymous
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>>213
Ha. I think they'll get some "deep" lore one day, but it won't necessary make people like the all too much. Speaking of them, they havent appeared in IDW in literal years at this point. Wow, and they were a big part for a while.
No.215
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>>214
I don't know. Sega themselves haven't done anything with them. I guess a Lost World remake with DLC is likely.
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Anonymous
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>>215
Imagine if they did this for the lost world remake/remaster. lmao.
No.251
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>>181
>It's better than the last two issues. I suppose.
The only reason I'm giving it a shot is that Bark's on the cover
>>182
Hey, it's best boy Crabmeat!
>>184
Yeah, it's bad enough Flynn would write him all zany like Woody Woodpecker, but this is way worse
No.252
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>>188
>This is like the third time this has happened with the Heavies.
Maybe naming one of them "King" wasn't the best idea
>>193
>Damn, Fang is smert!
Nice to see someone other than Tails working this sort of thing out
>>195
Poor Bark ;_;
>>198
>I did not care for this boss battle in Sonic Mania.
The Ninja was even worse when you're playing as Knuckles ;_;
>>199
The expressions are great too
>>201
>Will Starline's corpse also appear?
I'm still mad!
>>208
They're fine as a one-off thing for Mania, but not very interesting outside of that
>>218
Ha! I'd still play it
No.259
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>>218
>silver goes back in time to make sure lost world never happens
>>251
>The only reason I'm giving it a shot is that Bark's on the cover
The wishy washy good/bad boy.
>>252
>I'm still mad!
Such a waste.
No.262
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>>259
>silver goes back in time to make sure lost world never happens
Hey, the 3ds version was actually pretty fun!
>The wishy washy good/bad boy.
Interestingly, the Hooligans/Bark and Bean being mercenaries is something Flynn came up with. Bean and Bark are actually Sonic's friends in Sonic the Fighters, to the point where he entrusted each of them with guarding a chaos emerald. Fang stole his emerald from another of Sonic's friends, likely Mighty, Ray, or Vector
>Such a waste.
I'm convinced someone at IDW will bring him back
No.320
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I can't wait until IDW dies and I can do an IDW Ride and we can really shill the board.
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>>320
Not that I want it to die, but I kinda of see your view although when that maybe might be a long while from now
No.325
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>>322
I won't lie, I would prefer IDW to be scrapped. It's a failed series and anything short of a major shakeup isn't going to save it and I doubt they'd go looking for a replacement for Evan and Ian. Also, they seemed to have let go some people to save costs. The ship is slowly sinking.

https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/143042599
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>>325
Always sounds bad from those reports which I can see what people mean by that
> I would prefer IDW to be scrapped. It's a failed series and anything short of a major shakeup
Yeah I read the comic as it's own thing instead of just disliking because it's not another but never felt too attached to anything. Always kinda did feel they blew their load early with metal virus as that seems like a later in life type of arc for a comic than so early. but That Eggperial City arc really turned me off from it.

I guess that possible shake up you're refering could possibly be that new phantom rider guy but he's gonna be tied to just a racing type rival me thinks so not THAT big of a deal.
No.327
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>>326
I'm past the point of giving IDW the benefit of the doubt. It's been disappointment after disappointment. At least with a new writer I won't know what to expect. That's why Scrapnik Island was so refreshing.
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Anonymous
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>>327
Yeah, if you're just not liking the comic, it's okay to not really wanting to engage with it, althought I appreciate you still doing the storytime here
No.333
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>>328
I'm more indifferent to it. Whenever a new issue comes out, I don't immediately read it. I'll get around to it.
No.484
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It's such a shame that Lanolin did not turn out to be the Sally expy for IDW. I would've written her the same way and given her and Sonic the most intense friendly tension that even if there wasn't anything romantic in the comic, the fandom would ship them to hell and back. It'd be the most eyebrow raising friendship. Every time you see Sonic, he's with her and you wonder what they were doing before. And of course there'd be banter and swapping smug looks.
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>>484
I kinda see what you mean but I'm kinda glad she wasn't and just her own thing despite everything than just being another character. Plus that sort of dynamic with a girl is too powerful for them to ever have again desu
No.490
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>>486
Maybe I'm biased and would love to stick it to Sega in a way they wouldn't notice or be able to object to.
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Anonymous
>>490
They're like a hawk on looking at the comics, but not to the problems of their games. heh
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https://twitter.com/AdamBryceThomas/status/1782685051723080138
From ABT therefore Lanolin's canonical mother that will never be shown in the comic. Maybe. Not sure if IDW OCs are allowed to have family members. Though I know that background-ish characters have had family members like that park ranger bear and his son that Tangle and Belle rescued. Remember Belle? They should bring her back. In Pog form!
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Anonymous
>>1105
Her moms cute!
No.1392
Anonymous
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>>325
>It's a failed series
It's almost impressive how rapidly IDW went down the shitter.
>9 issues in Shadow jobs like a fucking moron
>20 issues wasted on the Zombot arc
>introduce Tangle and Whisper, fans like them, immediately turn them into whiny one-note crying lesbians
>introduce Belle, who's whiny and one-note from the start
>introduce Surge and Kit, fans get genuinely hyped, proceed to have them fuck up and job as hard as Shadow did
>introduce Lanolin, fan-favorite background character, turn her into an obstructive bitch

Everything the series had going for it, it fucked up.
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>>1392
>be ian and evan
>get to work on sonic again under a new publisher
>have to start over, can't use any archie characters, more restrictions than before
>do big zombot story that was originally meant for archie
>covid and delays and 15 issues make it a slog for readers
>stop giving a fuck and have other sonic non-comic projects
>years later and just going through the motions
>always wondering when idw will go under so keep the stories short and simple
As always, it feels like writer burnout at this point and any attempt at ambition seems to not be worth it for the writers. I think about Barnes and Scrapnik Island was fine. But he does seem like the kind of person that doesn't mind the strict Sega restrictions. He might be better suited for writing a truly game version of Sonic.
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Anonymous
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>>1407
>always wondering when idw will go under so keep the stories short and simple
They're not even doing this. Surge and Kit needed a dozen issues for their introductory arc.

But I agree that they're likely just going through the motions. After all Ian's been through -- legal shenanigans with Penders, reboots, fandom drama, mandates, etc. -- who can blame him for not giving a shit?

>Barnes and Scrapnik Island was fine
Scrapnik Island is a great story. If Barnes was writing for the rest of IDW, and doing it as well as he did Scrapnik Island, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But he seemed to actually have enthusiasm and want to portray the characters well.
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Anonymous
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I thought scrapnik was overrated shit and the moment I got to Mecha saying the meme line is when I disliked it forever, and don't want barnes on the books ever again. I really don't get the glazing over memberberry rehash the mini series.
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>>1483
>They're not even doing this. Surge and Kit needed a dozen issues for their introductory arc.
Imposter Syndrome was Ian's last big story before stepping away and working for Sega more directly. He got his big milestone issue and to kill off his villain OC. But in the last year or two things have definitely slowed down and shortened.
>>1484
The callbacks to previous stuff didn't hit me hard like it did with the others. It was just a simple story with a new (old) location and some new and old characters.
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Anonymous
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>>1485
I dunno, It's just one of those things I just can't like due to how it is personally.
>imposter syndrome
You know, I kind of think that whole thing was a mess. Like surge changing motivations on whim and getting her ass kicked constantly. Yeah she's a bad guy but whoof. way to make her look bad. And kit... honestly I forget what he does and his purpose than just being her simp. You think they'd do more but no, just simp mode. Imposter duo are kinda mid to me in idw despite the supposed hype.
No.1487
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>>1486
Maybe Ian had bigger plans but when he got the call, he changed it up and had his stuff wrapped up instead.
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Anonymous
>>1487
Probably.
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Anonymous
>>1484
>>1486
For me I just liked the pacing and sense of stakes on Scrapnik Island way better than anything else in IDW. It's four issues, doesn't have a pointless page of Whisper crying, and Mecha actually seems like a threat to Sonic unlike Surge or Clutch or any of the shitty IDW-original villains. Sure, Sonic's foot is injured, but Mecha puts up a decent fight despite being pretty chewed up as well, which is more than you can say for Surge.

It also lends a bit of credibility to IDW Sonic's forgiving nature since he's actually able to convince Mecha Sonic to change.
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>>179
Due to popular demand, I will now storytime the epic conclusion to IDW's instant classic, Fang the Hunter #4!
No.1505
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>>1502
Get ready for excitement!
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>>1505
Our favorite villains are in a pickle!
No.1507
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>>1506
Time to avoid the random bullshit go!
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Anonymous
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>>1502
>>1505
IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!
(sarcasm)
No.1509
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>>1507
Bark's making a stand!
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>>1509
Yoink and yeet!
>>1508
POGGERS!
No.1511
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>>1510
The King steps up!
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Anonymous
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>>1510
I hate that guys boss in mania
No.1513
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>>1511
Two for one!
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>>1513
YEEEAAOOOOWWW
>>1512
I think I stopped caring and just tanked hits to get it done with.
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>>1514
Who are these guys?
No.1516
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>>1515
Slide and ride.
No.1517
Anonymous
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>>1515
Their inclusion in this comic feels like padding
No.1518
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>>1516
Should keep the ice katana. Folded a thousand times in subzero temperature.
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>>1518
The biggest boom.
>>1517
I feel that way about Fang and the Hooligans in this comic.
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>>1519
HE'S ON FIRE
BOOMSHAKALAKA
No.1521
Anonymous
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>>1520
Again, I like Thomas' art but it kinda looks crowded in this for some reason.
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>>1520
I know King is the boss but Bark shouldn't be this beat up without dealing any damage back.
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>>1522
Let's all have a good laugh.
>>1521
It's fine but nothing that stands out to me.
No.1524
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>>1523
Sonic needs a Red Bull to regain that lost energy.
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>>1524
I think every Sonic game needs a final chase out of an exploding base where you have a limited amount of time to escape.
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>>1525
Whomp whomp
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Anonymous
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>>1525
>I think every Sonic game needs a final chase out of an exploding base where you have a limited amount of time to escape.
Metroid: Zero Mission Music - Escapeyoutube thumb

Sonic escaping an exploding planet metroid style when?
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>>1526
>get a powerful gem that lets you warp anywhere you want
>don't think it was worth getting
Oh, I see how it is. If it exploded then Bean would love it.
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Anonymous
>>1526
>whew! we filled our contractual obligation to show up in a product!
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>>1528
And Eggman will keep the Heavies around so they can betray him a... uh... fourth time!
>>1527
I always liked the Halo CE sequence.
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>>1530
That's right kids! If you want to see what happens next then get the next Sega game, Sonic Superstars! A new classic that's worth buying the most expensive version of to get all the bells and whistles!
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>>1531
Or you can just get them for free off of twitter because the artists have no problem posting their work on there.
No.1533
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>>1532
WORDS
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>>1533
AND SHIT
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>>1534
COVER
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>>1535
AND ANOTHER
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Anonymous
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>>1534
The fan art is honestly cute
No.1538
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>>1536
>>1537
But where's the questionable fanart?
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>>1538
And that's it! I'll end on a somewhat positive note and say it wasn't that bad. Just not something I would have any interest in.
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>>1539
Thanks conductor but god... I can't believe they stopped the comic for this SHIT
>asshole mooks
>mid mystery
>sonic and tails appearances were pointless
>more of the one note, classic deadly six
>all to shill sonic super mid stars

I'm so fucking tired of classic shit.
No.1541
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>>1540
You either die an Archie-era Ian or live long enough to become Kaminski.
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Anonymous
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From Mega Drive back in Archie to now, the entire classic comic fad will die before a single one is made about Tails throwing bombs at birds.
No wonder they're so boring.
No.1543
Anonymous
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>>1541
Oof
>>1542
It'll probably have Flickies needing to save Tails' ass again.
No.1547
Anonymous
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>>1543
>flickies
This is the saddest part.
A possible comic would be guaranteed to not be able to live up to the story of the game that was just a Game Gear title from the early 90s.
No.1548
Anonymous
>>1547
Tbh those were shovelware type stories. Not the best or anything
No.1572
Anonymous
Replies:>>1573
>>1538
Funny seeing an eggman that is drawn from Archie comics in there. though that might be just a coincidence.
No.1573
Anonymous
>>1572
Tracy drew that and its from issue 6
No.1582
Anonymous
>>1542
It would be too cool for this world

>>1543
> Flickies needing to save Tails' ass again.
>Tails had no problem going solo but he struggles more a second time even though the entire thing was just a retread of the game's plot.
Why.
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Since it's the IDW thread, here's some art by Natalie Haines, who has done some of the covers. Technically this makes pic related canon to IDW, even if it's Boom!
https://www.tumblr.com/lightningstar1389/749386491847950336
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>>1638
So why am I posting this? Because I wanted to try and say something positive about IDW for once and talk about my favorite IDW cover, pic related. It's a traditionally painted acrylic on canvas done in a mock renaissance style and directly references my favorite painting
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>>1639
That painting is The Fallen Angel, and was painted in 1847 by French artist Alexandre Cabanel. It's based on Milton's poem Paradise Lost and the Book of Revelation, specifically its account of the War in Heaven. Here we see Lucifer cast out from Heaven, covering his face in shame and shedding a single tear.

If we look at his expression, that tear isn't one of sorrow or contrition, but one of rage and resentment. There is only one thing on his mind: revenge. Some other things to note are the contrast between the soft forms of Lucifer and the angels in the sky, and the harsh dark angles of the rocks below. While depicted in the perfect Greek hero style, Lucifer is not just naked (in contrast to the angels above) but "laid bare." His plot has been uncovered and his defiance against the Creator is out in the open for all to see. You'll also note that his wings are mottling from their original blue color, like autumn leaves. He's no longer like his brethren in the sky, but is becoming something else

One of the really cool things about this painting is that people like it for a variety of reasons, from admiration of his continued defiance against impossible odds and sympathy for the situation he's found himself in, to satisfaction that the righteous justice of divine punishment has been met out against his arrogance. Personally, I just love how well the emotion has been conveyed. That, and I have a thing for redheads

The original image is over 50mb, so I had to compress it a heap. You can find it here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Alexandre_Cabanel_-_Fallen_Angel.jpg

I've been trying for days to write something about the latest IDW issue that isn't just pointless bitching, so this is the best I can do to contribute to this thread
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>>1640
Most people familiar with that painting might not know that he actually did a followup in 1848, called The Evening Angel. Gone is the anger and thoughts of revenge, and instead we see Lucifer draped in cloth with a contemplative expression, sitting comfortably and overlooking a modern (for 1848) city. Here is a being that's made peace with his past and separated himself from his Creator, but is wondering what to do next

I'm sure you can all draw parallels between these two paintings and Shadow yourselves
No.1658
Anonymous
Replies:>>1659
>>1639
>>1640
i'm sorry i really don't see how the idw cover "references" the fallen angel. Shadow's just hanging there limply doing an angry expression. He's not even facing the same direction as the lucifer painting, or doing a similar pose, and the background and palette are completely different. The pose looks much more like Christ off the cross however
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>>1658
It really just references the look, and renaissance/romantic paintings in general. The artist goes into detail on her process, and explicitly mentions that painting here:
https://twitter.com/Ls1389/status/1628864057775104093
You can also see the reference being more explicit in the thumbnails, especially the crossed out pose.
>The pose looks much more like Christ off the cross however
I can't place the specific painting, but I think you're right
Really I just wanted a chance to infodump on my favorite painting
No.1839
Anonymous
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>>1638
>>1639
>>1640
>>1641
>>1659
Saying something positive about IDW? You're going too fucking far pal
late reply but better than never
I kid I kid. Very nice analysis posts about that art. Also, lightningstar is such a great artist and always awesome to see their sonic work. Amazing coloring for their pieces.
Sorry for the negative attitude towards the comic if it bothered you. Personally didn't find it that good due to my above reasons, but I did at least have positive sayings towards the artist.
No.2116
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>>1839
>Saying something positive about IDW? You're going too fucking far pal
I figure the occasional nice word balances out all my Flynn bashing posts! Yeah, I'm hoping we'll see some fancomics from ligntningstar at some point. Hopefully an adaption of Paradise Lost but with Sonic characters!
>spoiler
Not at all! I'm not a fan either, especially considering the only interesting characters are non-Eggman villains. At least they're allowed to have some actual fun, whereas the heroes are all either moping or doing fire safety PSAs
No.2389
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Your monthly reminder that IDW is still going. Despite the constant delays and company losing money every quarter.
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https://x.com/thomas_rsvd/status/1794402060483346565
>Here's the clean version of my cover for @IDWPublishing's Sonic the Hedgehog #72.
>First time coloring a cover, so I went with a limited palette to keep things "simple". Those limitations bring their own challenges- but I'm glad people seem to like the end result. 🙂
No.2554
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Lanolin's getting more and more popular! At least if we're only going by how much she's talked about now. Not so much what is being said about her.
No.2555
Anonymous
Replies:>>2557>>2568
>>2554
The amount of butt hurt she's causing is insane. And always hit with the "She's just Sally accusations" which isnt true.
No.2557
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>>2555
Oddly enough I haven't gotten any Sally comparisons on my twix feed lately but I did get someone calling Lanolin Geoffrey.
No.2558
Anonymous
Replies:>>2559>>2568
>>2557
Really? Hmm I can kinda see it but you know, Lanolin isn’t a pedo lol
No.2559
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
>>2558
I believe the post went something like
>black white color scheme
>false sense of authority
>unlikable (i think that was the third one)
>picture of geoffrey
No.2560
Anonymous
>>2559
Lol, funny.
No.2565
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
Replies:>>2570
Now I just have to wait for someone else to post the issue on 4chan and I can post it here. Or someone else can post it here.
No.2568
Anonymous
Replies:>>2569>>2570
>>2554
>>2555
>>2557
>>2558
>>2559
I love how Lanolin is just suddenly in charge and nobody questions anything. Though I guess when you accept spazzes like Tangle and perpetually-sobbing messes like Whisper into your ranks, anyone who can manage a stern tone of voice seems like a leader.
No.2569
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>>2568
Lanolin's the only one that wants to be a leader in the entirety of the Restoration. Amy used to be but she suddenly didn't and Jewel has been reluctant since the beginning. She seems to be more comfortable but now she's lonely. And it's a miracle Sonic is still around since he'd more than likely disappear and not come back for months.

Lanolin was at least active in the background for most of the series and showing initiative in forming a group. Tangle is just Sonic-lite with half the IQ and Whisper will always be a follower. The bar is just that low.
No.2570
Anonymous
>>2565
I usually wait for grabber zone
>>2568
Maybe because she’s more no nonsense than even whisper
No.2574
Anonymous
>>2569
I kinda like to see what she’d do if GUN comes back. It might be her cup of tea
No.2590
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Sorry Fangbros, your time to shine is over. Now we're back to the highly acclaimed and popular IDW Sonic the Hedgehog series! And we have the start of an actual arc! Let's check out issue 69 (nice)!
No.2592
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>>2590
Evan time.
No.2593
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>>2592
PREVIOUSLY ON SONIC THE HEDGEHOG...
No.2594
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>>2593
Well, this isn't a good use of a page.
No.2595
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>>2594
Fun with the heroes and antagonists!
No.2596
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>>2595
After three pages of credits and info, it's good this race is starting now.
No.2597
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>>2596
Tails and his heavy breathing over extreme gear is making people uncomfortable.
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>>2597
Crabmeatbros... we're still in it...
No.2599
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>>2598
Chaos Cola this early? Well then!
No.2600
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>>2599
Clutch is so lucky that nobody has reported to Jewel about him.
No.2601
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>>2600
I'm pretty sure Sonic has faced you guys like this before. Unfortunately, given how the games are.
No.2603
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>>2601
Sonic lets his board do the talking.
No.2604
Anonymous
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>>2590
>issue 69
NICE!!!
No.2605
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>2603
Oh no!
No.2606
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>>2605
It's everyone's favorite group called the Diamond Cutters that aren't mostly dead!
>>2604
What a number to cum back to!
No.2607
Anonymous
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>>2595
This art is amazing! Deegeemin is so great and hey! I see the HEXAeco logos!
No.2608
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>2606
Jane! Get me off this crazy thing!
No.2609
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>>2608
Mimic can be any twink you want him to be.
>>2607
IDW's really good when it comes to art and consistency in style.
No.2610
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>>2609
>evan painfully makes notes that surge's feet are not shown and if they are they are to be in socks
No.2611
Anonymous
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>>2597
I really like the background mobian designs
No.2612
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>>2610
And here it is! Everyone's favorite page and the reason the thread on 4chan will still be up instead of dying in a day.
No.2613
Anonymous
Replies:>>2615
Lanolin makes me hard
No.2614
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>>2612
DQ'd? That's no good!
>>2611
Crowd shots are pretty fun.
No.2615
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>>2614
sus
>>2613
Built for paizuris and hatesex.
No.2616
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>>2615
This comic just got even more fashionable. That reminds me, what Sonic Channel art did Amy's costume come from?
No.2617
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>>2616
Mocking the man with the master plan? Bad idea!
No.2618
Anonymous
Replies:>>2621
Eggman hanging out with the Restoration
No.2619
Anonymous
Replies:>>2622
>>2598
Archie Crabmeat is underrated.
Hey look barry, also I kinda like how the restoration is looking to help the world a lot. GUN seems to be lacking in that deparment. Also weird reminder but fleetway mobians had them make fun of Eggman on TV too
No.2620
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>>2617
Not sure how I feel about Tails' boards looking bad in a race and fangirling over Eggman's tech that will be used moving forward.
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>>2620
What's the worst that can happen?
>>2618
All the villains are welcome! Except Rough and Tumble! They stink!
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>>2621
>>2619
>GUN seems to be lacking in that deparment.
They also lack in the existing in this series department.
No.2623
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>>2622
WORDS
No.2624
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>>2623
I miss Off Panel.
No.2625
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>>2624
More pages? More variants!
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>>2625
And that's it!
Rate the issue!
No.2627
Anonymous
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>>2626
6.9/10
No.2628
Anonymous
Replies:>>2734
>>2601
Pointing out but why does Sonic have those glasses if he never uses them. Never made any sense, plus theyre small.
>>2603
Tailsbros... Wave is making fun of our guy
>>2605
>>2606
Jet you deserved to get yelled at. Also Tangle being cute
No.2629
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
>>2627
Nice... enough.
No.2630
Anonymous
>>2609
Sex with Mimic must go crazy
>>2610
Somewhere Kevin shares her pain
No.2631
Anonymous
Replies:>>2633
>>2612
I seriously don't get the big problem here. She's doing her job.
No.2632
Anonymous
Replies:>>2734
>>2616
Hey that's his Sonic Shuffle outfit
No.2633
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>2631
Because she's not being nice in issue 69! I've seen a lot of back and forth on twitter, mainly out of curiosity. One person on there said that if Shadow said and did all that, nobody would care and even expect him to be that way. In fact, that would fuel more Sonadow art. Where's the Sonalin art where she's tsun for him and being overly serious while reluctantly showing affection for him?
No.2634
Anonymous
Replies:>>2734
>>2617
Cubot with a body pillow...
>>2620
To be fair, Eggman's work is impressive
No.2636
Anonymous
>>2626
69/100
I liked it more the entirety of the boring Fang mini. Only real questionable thing from me is working with Eggman on something that isn't world threatening. Would not be a good look if people found out

>>2633
>One person on there said that if Shadow said and did all that, nobody would care and even expect him to be that way. In fact, that would fuel more Sonadow art
actually true. It's okay with Shadow is mean lol.
>Where's the Sonalin art where she's tsun for him and being overly serious while reluctantly showing affection for him?
She's too bitter to have any fun banter with Sonic lol
No.2639
Anonymous
>>2621
>Rough and Tumble
Those two are unironically the best OCs IDW has introduced. They're meant to be comedic evil goofballs, and succeed at that.
No.2645
Anonymous
>>2622
Surge with the Bike looks like she should be in Super Hang-On
No.2651
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https://x.com/HagusAnimations/status/1796024455237431642
>Mimic Revealed- Bad Ending
>I don't think she'll react THIS harshly, but if she did, I could see Tangle and Whisper tracking her down. A nice moment for all of them to truly bond, and a chance for Lanolin to see that she is valued by her team.
No.2652
Anonymous
>>2651
Actually got me a bit ngl.
No.2716
Anonymous
Replies:>>2717>>2725
I hate how the writers are keeping the story progress in a semi comatose state until the comic gets cancelled.
No.2717
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>>2716
It's a step up from multiple short stories every issue. And then the series was halted for Fang the Hunter. I'm morbidly curious about what's going on behind the scenes at IDW.
No.2719
Anonymous
Replies:>>2722
>>2717
>I'm morbidly curious about what's going on behind the scenes at IDW.
Honestly, it's probably really depressing. The company itself is failing, the artists take potshots at the characters, and Ian and Evan constantly complain about being strangled by mandates. It doesn't seem like anyone really enjoys churning this comic out.
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>>2719
>be ian
>go through the forced archie reboot after they lost to penders in court
>go through the cancellation of the archie comics
>dragging through the idw comics and finally get partial freedom and let evan suffer
Why is writing comics for a blue animal that runs fast be such a constant slog that drains the life out of a person that's passionate about the franchise?
No.2723
Anonymous
Replies:>>2726
>>2722
SEGA, that's why. It really is depressing though, there's a palpable lack of giving a fuck on Ian's part nowadays.

His Archie run had flaws, but you could see that he was really trying to create a cohesive world with interesting worldbuilding, and had a lot of ambitious ideas for plotlines -- an evil technomage Queen, a brainwashed Knuckles as Enerjak, buffing up anti-Sonic into Scourge, a villain other than Max HUEHUEHUE on the Acorn throne, etc.

Now with IDW it's all just recycled Archie plots with half the enthusiasm. A crime boss like Mogul, fem-Scourge, and so on. But since they can't and/or won't do any worldbuilding, there's no possible way to see how people are affected by it or what it matters to the larger world.
No.2724
Anonymous
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>>2717
Not really a step up when the release dates keep bumping up. You end up waiting weeks or months for very little content.
No.2725
Anonymous
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>>2716
I at least think it's picked up it's pace a little. Fang comic just stopped it wholesale until recently. Continuing the Clean Sweep conpiracy thing. More interesting than explaining what some magic rock was doing years before despite not showing up in the game they're shilling for. No idea what they were thinking with that.
>>2722
>>2722
Working on this series just drains you in general. Hell, being a fan of it does that. Eventually, we'll all turn into a lanolin.
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>>2723
IDW really needs more than Ian and Evan writing. Barnes seems to like game accurate Sonic. Maybe give him another shot.
>>2724
Well those delays are another bigger problem with IDW.
>>2725
>No idea what they were thinking with that.
Part of their smaller stories time to possibly take time to reorganize and figure out what to do since their future is uncertain.
No.2727
Anonymous
Replies:>>2729
>>2726
>give Barnes another shot
Agreed, Scrapnik Island had an enthusiasm that's way lacking in the rest of the strip. It also had an interesting setting and a menacing villain, other things that IDW lacks.
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>>2727
I also want to see if he or another writer could keep things fresh enough or if they find themselves in the same situation as Ian and Evan.
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>>2612
https://x.com/Butterrrmoth/status/1796389729950212161
Looks like the background girl in the second panel is getting noticed... and art!
No.2731
Anonymous
>>2612
>>2730
Idw girl with cheek tufts? Woah
No.2732
Anonymous
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I looked and found this. I can see why she would get the Sally comparison lol
No.2734
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>>2470
IDW's been getting some really nice covers
>>2559
I wish Lanolin had that smug gaslighting energy of Geoffrey. We need a new Lien-Da tier schemer
>>2590
Nice cover, and it's always good to see Sonic in his Riders outfit
>>2592
I can't wait for the fire PSAs!
>>2593
Such a pimpin' coat
>>2594
This could've been an entire spread of slutty Duo pics ;_;
>>2595
Nice to see Nite make a return. Sorry Whispangle appreciators, but he's the only canonically gay character in IDW (other than his boyfriend Don)! >>2598
Hey, it's that slut Barry!
>Crabmeatbros
Best character in Archie, best character in IDW!
>>2601
Sonic looking extra cute in the second panel
>Unfortunately, given how the games are.
Hey, the Riders games are kino! Well, maybe not Free Riders
>>2609
>Mimic can be any twink you want him to be.
Pic related!
>>2611
They're so cute!
>>2614
>the restoration uses Windows XP
That explains so much
>>2615
I wholeheartedly approve of Clean Sweep's hiring practices!
>>2620
He's eating evil ham!
>>2621
>Except Rough and Tumble! They stink!
Hawt!
>>2622
>Sonic in a skintight bodysuit
Pic related, again!
>>2627
A perfect rating!
>>2628
>Pointing out but why does Sonic have those glasses if he never uses them. Never made any sense, plus theyre small.
It's because they look cool! And Knuckles' goggles make his pecs look bigger
>>2632
It is!
>>2634
>Cubot with a body pillow...
How the fuck did that get through? Sega's a Japanese company, they have to know what those are for!
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>>2734
>He's eating evil ham!
Even if you say it's mobini ham, that's still weird to think a diner run by mobians serves meat like that. One of the cursed questions best to never ask or try to get an answer for. Knowing Iizuka, he'd make a mandate to have it so that meat can never be shown in anything.
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Anonymous
Replies:>>2843>>2890
>>2748
>that's still weird to think a diner run by mobians serves meat like that.
Maybe most non-pig Mobians are okay with it? Humans co-exist with lesser non-sentient primates like monkeys, and we still eat meat. We don't generally eat monkey meat, so pig Mobians probably don't eat pork, but others might.
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>>2833
Something like a restaurant that serves monkey brain as part of its value menu.
No.2865
Anonymous
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>>2843
Sonic goes to investigate, and finds Dr. Finitevus in the basement ripping dudes' hearts out as a sacrifice to Enerjak.
No.2890
thirstposter ## VIP
>>2748
>>2833
Fortunately it's one of the things Iizuka isn't super weird about. Mobians/Sonic Worldians have been consistently referred to as animal people, where their species is more akin to a person's race. We've seen regular dogs, orcas and pigeons in 06 as well as cats, whales and African animals (giraffes, elephants, etc) in Unleashed so there's a clear distinction on what's dinner and what's a person.
As for the animal friends/mobini/critters, they're on the same level of intelligence as Chao so they're (probably) not for eating
>>2865
lmao, they actually parodied that in Boom: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Return_of_the_Buddy_Buddy_Temple_of_Doom
No.2972
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https://x.com/ChaoticSonicFan/status/1797703503634427968
I'm so fascinated by this drama. I find it fun. Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits.
No.2973
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I also think about how I'd write Lanolin. Maybe keep her the same. She seems fine as she is personality-wise but her usage isn't good. She needs some accomplishments and cool moments under her belt. She almost had one in that one arc where her team got ghosted but then it all fell flat. It's like early Antoine where he butted heads with Sonic and was straight up out for his ass and tried to get rid of him. Then he got more serious and badass moments, dropped his beef with Sonic, and continued being the cowardly yet also courageous dork.
No.2974
Anonymous
Replies:>>2981
>>2972
Holy fucking kek!
>Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits.
And because she didn't turn out like sally to you... I kid I kid
>>2973
That is completely reasonable. If lanolin did more super cool things, maybe they would hate her less for being right
No.2977
thirstposter ## VIP
Replies:>>2981
>>2972
In a way, I'm glad some people are actually having fun with IDW
>Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits.
At least you're honest!
>>2973
>She seems fine as she is personality-wise but her usage isn't good
Exactly! A big problem I have with IDW is the stakes never seem high. For a large chunk of Archie, the only thing keeping Robotnik from nuking half the planet was that he'd already done that and wanted to stretch out his current conquest.

IDW doesn't need to go that dark, but putting non-game characters like Lanolin up against a threat only Sonic and co can handle would go a long way to raising the stakes and showing just how much a threat Eggman really is. I'd love to see Lanolin and co go up against Metal Sonic survival horror-style, where they can't outright win, but can save civilians and keep him occupied for long enough for reinforcements to arrive
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>>2974
I thought she was going to have her chance but nope! A cool enough entrance at the end of the last big arc then the day's saved by the game characters and she's not even shown at the big party at the end.
>>2977
>IDW doesn't need to go that dark, but putting non-game characters like Lanolin up against a threat only Sonic and co can handle would go a long way to raising the stakes and showing just how much a threat Eggman really is. I'd love to see Lanolin and co go up against Metal Sonic survival horror-style, where they can't outright win, but can save civilians and keep him occupied for long enough for reinforcements to arrive
This is when those villain OCs would be useful because they can get their ass beat by the ero OCs and Sega wouldn't mind. I miss Metal Sonic getting beaten and I know Sega would veto him losing to IDW's characters in current year.
No.2982
Anonymous
Replies:>>2983
>>2981
The way they want metal sonic to be respected but just have him loose all the time is hilarious. Complete loser. I’d pay to see the diamond cutters beat his ass
> A cool enough entrance at the end of the last big arc then the day's saved by the game characters and she's not even shown at the big party at the end.
I thought I was the only person bothered by this. She is just straight up gone. That arc was kind of a mess
No.2983
Anonymous
Replies:>>2984>>2995
>>2982
I have no idea why anyone's interested in Metal Sonic. He's a zero-personality jobber who hasn't been relevant since Sonic Heroes.
No.2984
Anonymous
Replies:>>2995
>>2983
OVA and some media got people think he’s cooler than he actually is. He’s carried by his looks and that’s it. And personally, never really cared for that “muh am the real sonic” crap. Plain old metal sonic ain’t all that
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>>2981
>This is when those villain OCs would be useful because they can get their ass beat by the ero OCs and Sega wouldn't mind. I miss Metal Sonic getting beaten and I know Sega would veto him losing to IDW's characters in current year.
I think they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the gay duck, since there was all this build up of him being a serious threat with his own team of brainwashed lackeys that were hyped as the perfect counter to Sonic and Tails (their powers are lightning and water, Tail's and Sonic's main weaknesses). For him to be killed by Eggman with almost no effort really ruined the idea that IDW would ever have other villains that are a real threat
>>2983
>>2984
He's got a lot of attitude in CD (the finger wagging, leaving holograms of himself bullying critters just to taunt Sonic) and the OVA (as well as looking really cool), but Heroes really dropped the ball. We never even get to fight him in his regular form!
>never really cared for that “muh am the real sonic” crap
I've always seen it as Metal having an ego that rivals Eggman (and Sonic), so while he knows Sonic is the original, he views himself as the superior and therefore "real" Sonic
No.2996
Anonymous
Replies:>>3001>>3004
>>2995
They were really banking on Starline. In a way, I kind of understand Ian saying he thought his story was done but he was THE big one. You could say surge and kit are them now but ehhh... It's just clutch using them now for his own goals atm for the restoration.
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>>2995
>I think they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the gay duck, since there was all this build up of him being a serious threat with his own team of brainwashed lackeys that were hyped as the perfect counter to Sonic and Tails (their powers are lightning and water, Tail's and Sonic's main weaknesses). For him to be killed by Eggman with almost no effort really ruined the idea that IDW would ever have other villains that are a real threat
Just felt like Ian wanted no one else to use Starline when he stopped being the main writer. That's his villain. Clutch is Evan's big villain. Mimic and the imposters are still used but they're just Clutch's lackeys. I don't even know what's up with Rough and Tumble.
No.3001
Anonymous
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>>2995
>>2996
>>3000
The lack of good villains is what really kills IDW for me. Vegetadow barely appears and Whisper's crying usually only lasts a page, but what's the fucking point of reading any of this if nobody can feasibly challenge Sonic? Starline was the best they had, and he wasn't even Naugus-tier.

Honestly, the guy who probably seemed the most sinister and menacing was Mecha Sonic in Scrapnik Island, which is kinda funny since he's the only villain that Sonic managed to redeem.
No.3003
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>>3001
I'm fine if Sonic's never outright beaten by his enemies. Just make him work for his victory and make it look good. Surge got pretty close when she was shocking him in the water. It just didn't feel earned because her handling was such a mess at that point. If she was a proper replacement for Scourge, she could've been harassing Sonic and just barely get warded off for next time. Then she sets up a big trap for Sonic and almost wins but her power overloads and she passes out. This current arc might be Clutch's last chance to show he can be a big villain. But getting Sonic, Tails, and Amy disqualified is Dick Dastardly tier villainy.
No.3004
thirstposter ## VIP
Replies:>>3020
>>2996
>>3000
39 issues of buildup and Ian just took his ball and went home. I get he wanted to kill off a major villain for the 50th issue to echo Endgame but it just rings hollow. We don't have many characters in IDW so killing off one of the well received ones is just shooting yourself in the foot
>I don't even know what's up with Rough and Tumble.
They're supposed to be joke villains but they've actually got a better win record than Surge and Kit. I don't think any of the writers are interested in using them since their connection with Tangle was scrapped and the writers don't seem to like comedy-focused stories
>>3001
>what's the fucking point of reading any of this if nobody can feasibly challenge Sonic?
The writers need to read some Superman comics if they want to see how to write engaging stories where the protagonist is OP
>Scrapnik Island
That story did a great job of keeping the stakes high and shows that it's still possible to write stories where Sonic is at a clear disadvantage
No.3020
Anonymous
>>3003
>>3004
I don't mind Sonic being OP, you'd expect it from a world-renowned hero with super-speed. But you can't give him villains who are all powerless muggles like Clutch or jobbers like Surge. Both Archie and game Sonic have regularly duked it out with giant robots and evil gods, are we really supposed to believe that he'd need more than 2 seconds to deal with any of the IDW-original villains?

>The writers need to read some Superman comics if they want to see how to write engaging stories where the protagonist is OP
Not even that, just introduce villains who have combat-oriented superpowers, like literally any other comic book superhero has. Blaze has fire powers, so introduce a dude with ice powers. Introduce a dude who can fuck with gravity or something. It's completely basic stuff for an action comic or Shonen anime, and IDW can't seem to manage it.
No.3056
Anonymous
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Spring Broken Preview images

Hey is that uncle chuck in the second panel?
No.3057
Anonymous
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No.3059
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
>>3056
Another altered version of a forbidden-by-Sega character.
>>3057
I wonder what the big threat is this time. Halloween Sonic, Tails, and the Chaotix beat up some kids. And the summer special had Sonic and the OCs have a friendly game with the rogues.
No.3068
Anonymous
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>>3056
>>3057
>Sonic hits an amusement park
Wow, this looks to be as riveting as the arcs about beach volleyball and a camping trip.

What is with all this endless slice-of-life bullshit? Fleetway Sonic would be fighting cyborg dinosaurs on Mars by now.
No.3070
Anonymous
>>3068
It’s supposed to be more lighter and slower stories among the more action ones I think. For those that like slice of life stuff
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>sonic teaming up with eggman after everything he's done so they can find out who sabotaged their extreme gear boards and rigged a race
Reminds me of the time MLK worked with KKKman to solve the mystery of the missing socks.
No.3494
Anonymous
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>>3493
Yeah, you'd really think that taking down Eggman would be the priority after the Metal Virus shit.
No.3497
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>>3494
The stakes are so backwards. Clutch better be hiding a world destroying doomsday weapon somewhere and that only puts him on par with the Eggperial City alone.
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It may not have been the best arc but man looking back it's like night and day comparing early IDW with what it's been for a while now.
No.3507
Anonymous
>>3493
>>3497
Sonic should only really work with Eggman with super big threats. While some people would say Sonic wouldn’t care what others would say, this just makes him look bad. Amy and Tails too but they’re his biggest ass kissers and have no real thoughts except following his blue butt. If this was know to someone like lanolin and Eggman victims it’ll be a shit show but I don’t even know if they would actually follow up on that if they did. It’d probably just end with them saying they’re okay with that and have no differing opinions.
No.3508
Anonymous
Replies:>>3708
Also
>central city
>still just mobians and no humans
Aww man. I was thinking a world race would show more than just the furries but it’s looking that it won’t.
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>>3507
It might be the clashing stakes in Ian and Evan. Ian's all about raising stakes and edge but Evan isn't as well suited for it and seems to like casual villainy.
No.3612
Anonymous
Replies:>>3640
>>3503
The fucking Sonic Heroes ripoff was the best non-spinoff arc. Sad!
No.3640
Anonymous
>>3602
Evan seems to like calmer stories more. I remember when people were begging for Evan to do that after the metal virus.
>>3612
Looking back, it's so out of place compared to the current comic. Like it's own bubble of existance.
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thirstposter ## VIP
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>>3493
>Reminds me of the time MLK worked with KKKman to solve the mystery of the missing socks.
I'd unironically read that comic
>>3503
I remember thinking how frustrating it was that they just did a pale retread of Heroes but at least it had cool action scenes
>>3507
Game Sonic's only ever worked with Eggman when the world was literally at stake in SA2 (the Ark was going to crash into Earth and wipe out all life), 06 (technically he was dead and others worked with Eggman), Lost world (only pretended to work with Eggman and tried to kill him at the end) and Frontiers (The End was going to wipe out all life). In fact, the only other games where Sonic's not outright tried to kill Eggman are Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, where he wasn't the villain.

I absolutely loathe the idea that Sonic would ever be buddy buddies with Eggman (outside of Boom, since he's barely even a villain there) and it frustrates me to no end that the writers would even consider it.

>>3508
It cracks me up that Sonic and Blaze went to Spagonia and there were absolutely no humans around. You can tell they're just not allowed to draw them since even the mannequin in the shop front was Mobian-shaped. Judging from the recent Sonic Channel art, my guess is Sonic Team's still not settled on a human artstyle yet
>>3602
I just don't think readers are all that interested in SoL stories in a Sonic comic unless they're an occasional short break from action-heavy arcs
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>>3708
>I just don't think readers are all that interested in SoL stories in a Sonic comic unless they're an occasional short break from action-heavy arcs
If Sega allowed romance then a comic filled with shipping would be more popular than anything else. There's also gags and memes. That's popular with the people posting on X The Website Formerly Known as Twitter but I don't know if they're the same crowd that buys the comics.
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thirstposter ## VIP
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>>3798
Yeah, even if it were just the non-game cast having relationships the comic would be way more popular. They'd make absolute bank if they were even able to hint at Sonadow
>That's popular with the people posting on X The Website Formerly Known as Twitter but I don't know if they're the same crowd that buys the comics.
I think they're deliberately trying to court these people but even though they do post positive things about IDW, they just don't buy the comics. At this point I'm not even sure who the comic is for. It's not for diehard fans (I don't own a single issue and have all the Archie collected volumes), it's not for casual readers since the multi-year overarching plots make it difficult for new readers to jump on, it's not for game fans since Sonic acts so out of character and nothing game-related happens (no Forces or Frontiers adaptions or even references), and it's not for romance fans since there's none of that allowed
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>>3802
I think it's for the hardcore Sonic game fans and casual Sonic fans. The ones who buy Sonic merch. It's not tied to the games but it is focused on the game characters (sometimes). IDW has done well with creating OCs that game fans like, even if they're not used well. I don't want to talk shit about Sonic Frontiers but I've seen all these "hype" moments and things people obsess over and it all looked so janky and unappealing. So while I find the IDW comics mediocre and lacking, I also see the recent Sonic games that way. If someone likes those games and characters then the comics are an inoffensive supplement to them. That is, if they buy the comics.
No.3805
thirstposter ## VIP
Replies:>>3806>>3815
>>3804
If that's the case then they really messed up since Sonic acts nothing like his game counterpart. IDW rant:
I'm fine with Archienic and Fleetwaynic not acting like their game counterparts since there wasn't a unified canon until Sonic Adventure (and because those settings stand up on their own merits). IDW's got the same issue as Prime, stating it's the same canon as the games only serves to highlight its shortcomings. Gamenic would never go that easy on Eggman and it frustrates me to no end
>Frontiers
I actually really enjoyed it, but I can see why many would find it mid. The music's great, but the entire game's clearly a (paid for!) public beta for their next game. As much as I'll hate on Flynn, the writing was fine here, even if the story doesn't fit the established lore (The End, the chaos emeralds, the Ancients, etc) and the character development's just a retread of previous games (neither of which Flynn had any control over)
>I've seen all these "hype" moments
Hey, they are all hype! Because they're straight out of Evangelion
>Forces
Not many people know this but Forces was mostly a testbed for the hedgehog engine 2, the most advanced scene rendering and real-time lighting engine in existence. Sure the gameplay was short, simplistic and boring, the plot was unfinished, and the physics were jank, but it was objectively lit better than any other game!
No.3806
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>>3805
With Ian being a a part of everything for Sonic (not sure about the movies) tells me Sega wants some consistency to better sell everything to the same group of people. Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show.
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thirstposter ## VIP
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>>1639
>>1640
Oh boy, do I have an update! Remember that Chaos comic where Shadow gets turned into a girl and Sonic gets aids from Max? Well the artist is back and doing Sonic art again!
>>3806
Ian's been involved with the comics, two Boom episodes, general background on Prime (and wasn't happy the writers ignored his notes), co-writing Frontiers (dialog, not story), but not the movies. Honestly, he isn't given a lot of wiggle room and my guess is he's only been brought in to placate fans. As for consistency, all the ultimate decisions are made by a bunch of out of touch executives in SoJ. Not even Iizuka has any real say on Sonic
>Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show.
It would honestly be better if he could do that (at least in IDW) since he knows Archienic inside and out
No.3815
Anonymous
Replies:>>3821>>3826
>>3708
Yeah it's just kinda weird how they team up for something less low stakes.
I thought the art style for humans was the unleashed ones which I'm sure the IDW artists are more than qualified to draw. It's more and more bullshit everytime they mention or show some location with humans but there's only mobians. I wonder if any human that isn't Eggman will ever appear at this point in it.
>>3804
>I don't want to talk shit about Sonic Frontiers but I've seen all these "hype" moments and things people obsess over and it all looked so janky and unappealing
You're not wrong, that's exactly what it is
>>3805
On one hand, I can understand them wanting some "consistency". On the other, it will never be truly straight because how fucking consistently inconsistent this franchise. They wanted to pander to the anal retentive fans but that's just a mistake and makes them more annoying
>>3806
>Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show.
You almost say this as if this would be a bad thing ;)
No.3816
Anonymous
Replies:>>3821
>>3814
They drew that?!?! wow...
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thirstposter ## VIP
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>>3815
>Yeah it's just kinda weird how they team up for something less low stakes.
It just doesn't make any sense. He almost wiped out all life on Earth with the metal virus. Not only would Sonic be willing to kill him, random civilians in the restaurant would be too
>I thought the art style for humans was the unleashed ones which I'm sure the IDW artists are more than qualified to draw.
They've revised it a few times, but the current version is derived from the unleashed style. You can see it in the latest Sonic Channel art. I agree the artists would easily be able to handle it, but my guess is they're not allowed to show humans and probably never will be
>On one hand, I can understand them wanting some "consistency". On the other, it will never be truly straight because how fucking consistently inconsistent this franchise.
Sonic's has a consistent characterization since the first game, although that canon wasn't made universal until Sonic Adventure. I agree that the tone (and the writing quality!) of the games has varied wildly, and that Sonic Team is absolutely terrible at informing the fans about even basic lore. It should never have reached the point where they needed to make a TailsTube just to explain how many planets the games take place on
>They wanted to pander to the anal retentive fans but that's just a mistake and makes them more annoying
Their big issue is that the fanbase is completely fractured along so many lines (Modern/Classic, Archie/IDW/Fleetway, Boom/SatAM/AoStH/X/Prime, Boost/Adventure/Frontiers, etc etc) there's no way to appeal to everyone. They should just let IDW be its own thing like the other comics were and only step in when the writers start having characters OD on drugs. Kids don't give a shit if the comics are exactly like the games, especially considering the movies have their own continuity
>>3816
While I liked the artstyle of their original comic, they've seriously improved their style since then. Unfortunately most of the new art is lewd so I was never able to post it on 4/co/. Of course that's not a problem here! (warning: nude Knux)
No.3823
Anonymous
Replies:>>3838
>>3821
YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! KNUCKLES SEXO ALERT!!!
okay but to be semi serious
>He almost wiped out all life on Earth with the metal virus. Not only would Sonic be willing to kill him, random civilians in the restaurant would be too
You can say the meta reason is because he's the main bad guy and will always get away with literally anything. I know some people like to say IDW made him go too far but Eggman being too unforgiveable to let go happened a while ago in the games with the big disasters he started.
>but my guess is they're not allowed to show humans and probably never will be
Kind of a shame and will just always be weird. It's Forces tier of pretending they aren't there but they totally are guys believe us!!!
>It should never have reached the point where they needed to make a TailsTube just to explain how many planets the games take place on
I hate this push recently to explain stuff that should have probably been in the game. It seems kinda lazy.

>They should just let IDW be its own thing
I feel ya. The comic would still get it's own criticism of course, but if they didn't have to make it canon. So much drama surrounding wouldn't be that terrible. But no, we can never be that lucky.
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>>3814
I'm not sure what exactly Sega wants or allows but Ian being all over the place and them wanting everything canon (and not the cool way but their haphazardly curated definition of it) and similar across all mediums outside of the live action movies means they want some kind of consistency. It's just that the execution isn't good and, ironically enough, not consistent.
>>3815
>You almost say this as if this would be a bad thing ;)
It's a shame we lost Archie-era Ian. I can only imagine him doing what he did back then for games and shows. Having Sonic thinking about sharing an umbrella with Sally and considering preboot Archie Sonic thought of Amy as an annoyance, making a snide remark about her.
No.3829
Anonymous
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>>3826
>spoiler
Contrary to popular belief, he did like and even trusted Amy. This come after that infamous panel saying he didn't but it's just a riff really. Funny how no one ever seems to mention this tho.
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>>3829
Oh he trusts her but there are times where Amy's treated as a nuisance by him. Like the wedding issue or when Sally "punished" Sonic by sending him on a mission with Amy to Moebius. And before that, Amy was barely used and Sonic barely gave her a thought as a romantic partner. But that was mostly because she was a kid. Overall Sonic likes her as a friend but her crush on him is either ignored or it bothers him. That even carried over into IDW but was toned down over time.
No.3835
Anonymous
Replies:>>3837
>>3830
I guess so. Not liking her get all up in his face was a trait Games Sonic had at one point too.
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>>3835
I will say his annoyance works best when he doesn't have another love interest. Archie Sonic had Sally and Fiona aka Sally 2. Bollers left before he could do anything with them but honestly he was on Sonic for a long ass time and barely used Amy.
No.3838
Anonymous
Replies:>>3910
>>3821
>They should just let IDW be its own thing like the other comics were and only step in when the writers start having characters OD on drugs. Kids don't give a shit if the comics are exactly like the games, especially considering the movies have their own continuity
Agreed, I never understood this need for "consistency" across every single part of a franchise.

Take Mario for example. Even before Paper Mario became its own separate thing from the wider franchise, I knew that Bow (the friendly Boo noblewoman who becomes your ally in PM1) wasn't going to show up to help you fight the ghosts in Luigi's Mansion. They were separate games, doing their own separate thing.

Hell, half the fun of different adaptations is seeing different takes on things. Bela Lugosi, Frank Langella, and Louis Jourdan all portrayed Dracula as charming and eloquent. The original Nosferatu and the Christopher Lee movies portrayed him as a feral monster. The Nosferatu remake portrays him as wretched and tragic. It'd be pointless to retell the story if everything was the same.

>>3823
>but if they didn't have to make it canon.
To be honest, it's not really canon in any way that matters. It has to conform to the games, but I really doubt that we'll be seeing Whisper or Surge show up in any future Sonic games.
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>>3837
>I will say his annoyance works best when he doesn't have another love interest.
I mean when he does have a love interest. Or maybe a better way to word that would be that his annoyance doesn't work when he doesn't have a love interest.
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Anonymous
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New IDW solicitation
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thirstposter ## VIP
>>3821
>YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! KNUCKLES SEXO ALERT!!!
Any excuse for me to post best boy!
>You can say the meta reason is because he's the main bad guy and will always get away with literally anything.
I'm fine with him always getting away, but that should be part of the fun. Eggman's ability to survive the consequences of his actions is a legitimate superpower and we should get to see it in action in the comics. If he's going to stroll into a resarunt unarmed he should at least tell Sonic to put on the TV first, which would show Metal holding a village hostage halfway around the world. We should also get to see how he's able to escape the certain death situations he ends up in, something the movies did well when he was stranded on Mushroom World.
I 100% agree about both game and IDW Eggman having enormous body counts. The people he drowned in Station Square in SA1 has to be in the 10s of thousands alone
>Kind of a shame and will just always be weird. It's Forces tier of pretending they aren't there but they totally are guys believe us!!!
I'm sure all the humans were just out of shot in the final battle! It's so dumb, and costs Sega nothing to let us have
>I hate this push recently to explain stuff that should have probably been in the game. It seems kinda lazy.
I think a lot of it is them seeing Flynn saying something wrong about the lore and then them hurriedly trying to correct it in a way that won't embarrass him (e.g. the two worlds thing). They either need to explain things better to him or tell him to stop discussing the lore in public.
My other issue is that Sega clearly wants to their cake and eat it too, since they want Sonic to have detailed lore for the hardcore fans to obsess over, but are extremely reluctant to nail anything down since that might mean a retcon down the line. As for including it in the games, simple things like having a mix of human and animal people in crowd shots would have solved so many of these issues years ago. Honestly, I'd be happy if they would just put out a lore book that actually explains the lore (the encyclo-speed-ia doesn't count, since it's just a list of games filled with basic factual errors)
>I feel ya. The comic would still get it's own criticism of course, but if they didn't have to make it canon. So much drama surrounding wouldn't be that terrible. But no, we can never be that lucky.
I get that Sega wants a cohesive brand image or whatever, but classic, Boom and the movies are already in their own continuities. No one would really care if the comics are their own thing so long as you could conceivably slot the games into some flashbacks. It's not like Sega even allows them to do direct in-universe adaptions of games anymore, considering the last one was SA2
>>3826
>It's just that the execution isn't good and, ironically enough, not consistent.
That's it exactly. They want all the benefits of a cohesive Sonic but aren't willing to put in the work, hoping fans won't notice so long as Flynn's name's attached to enough projects
>>3837
Amy was kind of okay in later Archie, but the Sonic-obsession's always made her somewhat of a one-note character. The only time it's really worked is in Boom, since it was played for laughs. Even then it was a secondary trait after her interests in design, arts & crafts, and being generally neurotic. Of course it helped that Boom Sonic actually liked her back
>>3838
>Agreed, I never understood this need for "consistency" across every single part of a franchise.
Well said. The variety is what keeps these franchises interesting. I did a Kong movie marathon a while back and it was fascinating to see how the story was tweaked to match the cultural zeitgeist Fay Wray best Kong girl
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Anonymous
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>>3507
>Amy and Tails too but they’re his biggest ass kissers and have no real thoughts except following his blue butt.
Because the last time Sonic and Tails disagreed about something fans threw a shit fit and for this same scenario too, not like it was well executed but it happened. Wildly inconsistent, remember?
No.3920
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>>3917
>Because the last time Sonic and Tails disagreed about something fans threw a shit fit and for this same scenario too
It's a shame too, since Tails' character arc is the only interesting and well executed plot point across Colors, Lost World and Forces (even if it was thrown out in Frontiers). Here's how I've seen Tails' main character arc throughout the games:
"I may just be the sidekick, but since Sonic won't make it in time I must defeat Eggman and disarm the bomb to save Station Square" (SA1),
"Sonic's counting on me to be the hero now that he's gone. I won't let him down!" (SA2),
"I'm getting no character development, I'm just Sonic's friend here" (Heroes, StH, 06, Unleashed, Generations),
"Even if I mostly handle the tech stuff, I'm Sonic's equal partner and can clap back when Sonic makes gentle ribs" (Colors),
"Sonic should have listened to me, I'm smarter than him and he doesn't think things through. Oh wait, Sonic was just playing along to trick Eggman, but he fooled me too and does trust me" (Lost World),
"Oh shit, my intellect and gadgets weren't enough and I let Sonic get captured. I'm gonna lose all confidence in myself until Classic Sonic shows up and I can slowly regain it by taking on the role of the older brother. I'm Sonic's equal, and while neither of us is infallible, that's okay" (Forces),
"The fans didn't like that I cowered before Chaos 0 (even though I was guilt ridden, traumatized and living in a war zone for 6 months), I will now speedrun my previous character development so everyone will stop complaining" (Frontiers).
I'm not mad at all, honest!
No.3926
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>>3917
Reminds me of when I had Antoine get mad at Sonic. Antoine had every right to be mad but there were some people saying that Antoine was at fault for blaming Sonic.
No.3927
Anonymous
Replies:>>4001
>>3926
protag privilege is a real thing kek
No.3928
Anonymous
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>>3926
lol for real?
No.3929
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>3928
>Why is Bunnie gettin at Sonic?! He barely said anything while French Boy is the one who kept ripping on him! >=(
>Antoine need to stop blaming Sonic for his mistake.
>Antoine better start thinking before speaking or he’s gonna get that sword of his in an uncomfortable spot.
>He better hope Sonic don't smack him silly next time!
No.3930
Anonymous
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>>3929
lol wow
No.4001
thirstposter ## VIP
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>>3926
The "Sonic can't lose" Sega mandates have nothing on the fan mandates. The blue rat's word is law!
>>3927
Ha!
>>3929
It's especially funny considering they made up right after this
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https://x.com/Jampolinski/status/1804162887667114348
I can't believe Sega approved of Sonic having a new costume for this arc. Maybe Evan is getting more freedom.
>>3930
>>4001
I get some interesting comments and complaints.
No.4007
thirstposter ## VIP
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>>4006
I can't believe they let him wear skintight leather pants again! Now I'll actually have to read this issue!
No.4013
Anonymous
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>>4006
Said new costume is going to the trash after the arc is over probably so maybe thats why too
No.4016
thirstposter ## VIP
>>4013
Still, it's the first time he's been able to wear pants since 2007's Sonic Rivals 2
No.4021
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>>4007
Can't wait for Eggman to betray Sonic and they laugh and finger gun each other to end the arc.
>>4013
Or it might be a costume for a mobile game since Sega has been putting more effort into those.
No.4023
Anonymous
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>>4021
>Can't wait for Eggman to betray Sonic and they laugh and finger gun each other to end the arc.

This will so happen. Poor mobians need to deal with this crap.
No.4032
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>>4023
That's what happens to a world without a Sally to keep Sonic in line.
No.4098
Anonymous
>>4023
>>4032
Hopefully Tails and a magic unicorn will take out Eggman with a sniper rifle.
No.4156
Anonymous
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More Spring Broken Previews
No.4157
Anonymous
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they finally remembered that Jewel likes rocks
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
>>4156
>>4157
>>4158
I just want to repeat my complaint about all this slice-of-life bullshit being boring.
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>>179
It's time for another action-packed and lore-heavy IDW special! It's spring (was spring) and the festivities has brought all the heroes and some villains out to take part in a flower competition! But something's wrong! Attacking robots? Alien invasion? The return of a gay duck? No! Anyway, this is Spring Broken!
No.4223
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>>4221
I looked up this writer. This is their first writing gig for Sonic?
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>>4223
But hey, we got ABT on art and he's gonna put in as many OCs as possible. Some look familiar.
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>>4224
Everyone's really excited for this.
No.4226
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>>4225
Just because they're villains that broke out of prison doesn't mean they're not able to enter this competition.
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>>4226
Sonic's waiting for something ANYTHING interesting to happen.
No.4228
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>>4227
10/10 villain poses for Rough and Tumble.
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>>4228
A plant suddenly catching on fire? Where's Blaze? Is this her doing?
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>>4229
Look at them smears!
No.4231
Anonymous
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>>4221
I'M SO HYPPPED!!!!!!
(sarcasm)
No.4232
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>>4230
Self sabotage?! Sounds like a Silver thing alright.
No.4233
Anonymous
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>>4224
Not Uncle chuck and a another crocodile that isnt vector
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>>4232
>something smells fishy
Tails with the casual racism to fish.
>>4231
let's something gooo?
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>>4234
Wide Vector.
>>4233
Exotic Vector.
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>>4235
sus
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>>4236
This is the extent of the damages this special will have.
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Anonymous
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>>4226
Maybe next time Eggman can join
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>>4237
Since Knuckles is on Angel Island hell, Vector will be taking his role in this.
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>>4239
Not all heroes wear capes. Or much clothes.
>>4238
These comics really is getting to Sonic Boom levels of comfy with Eggman popping in.
No.4241
Anonymous
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>>4227
Yeah remember when Jewel had a museum? They suddenly did after ignoring it for like years.
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>>4240
Quick! We need a reason for Sonic to not instantly catch the culprit! Perfect!
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>>4242
CHARMYYYYY!
>>4241
Well it's something.
No.4244
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>>4243
Gasp!
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>>4244
So if Charmy didn't randomly add what he thought was soil to only Silver's plant then nothing would have happened.
No.4246
Anonymous
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>>4229
Blaze is on the cover but doesn't appear...
>>4230
Vector interacting with Tails? Now thats rare but actually welcome and much needed
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>>4245
I can't believe this guy! Wow! How inconsiderate of him!
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Anonymous
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>>4244
Listen, we need a real detective. Like The Question! Or Conan Edogawa.
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>>4247
That Tails is how I feel about this comic.
>>4246
To bad fire kitty!
No.4250
Anonymous
>>4234
They way they gave the logo prominence like that is like they gave it to a bad guy.
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>>4249
So Rough was acting on his own and Tumble's fine and even getting emotional support from Silver who is the victim of Rough's misdeed? Okay.
No.4252
Anonymous
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>>4249
If this was Archie, Silver would've tried drowning him.
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>>4251
Espio wins! And Jewel still wins!
>>4248
I'd love for a mobian Columbo.
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>>4253
Yeah! Rides and food!
>>4252
And Sonic would try to drown Silver.
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>>4254
>insert patchy THAT'S IT?! pic here
No.4256
Anonymous
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>>4239
>if only i had my pad
I HATE THAT STUPID THING!!!
>>4242
That girl is cute
>>4243
Charmy needs to burned at the stake for this
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>>4255
Soon! Although likely delayed if that didn't already happen.
No.4258
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>>4257
Another look at the cover.
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>>4258
Rate the issue.
No.4260
Anonymous
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>>4253
>The Chaotix won something.
Wait, what?
No.4261
Anonymous
>>4245
Pretty much
>>4247
>"And I could've gotten away with it too! If it weren't for you meddling dudes!"
>>4251
tumble actually innocent for once huh
No.4262
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>4260
Espio's only real competition was Jewel and she's a filthy non-game OC.
No.4263
Anonymous
>>4262
Ah. When you read the Chaotix, you expect their wins to be the calm before getting screwed over by life.
No.4265
Anonymous
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>>4255
>"we're going to remember this spring fest forever!"
I doubt that
>>4259
I wish Silver would fuck off forever/10
Pretty nothing like the rest of the one shots they keep releasing. At least background girls were cute, 'specially the possum ones
Still, thanks conductor
No.4274
Anonymous
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>>4251
Is no one going to point out that Vectors glove is green? This thing got delayed but they missed that?
No.4277
Anonymous
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>>4259
zzzzzzzz/10

Why is a comic about a 2cool4school super-speed hero focusing on a fucking flower competition? How did it get to this point?
No.4290
thirstposter ## VIP
>>4224
lmao, they've made a flower shrine to Whisper's tears! Also, nice Uncle Chuck cameo
>>4226
THEY'RE HERE!
>>4227
It's Nite and Don, the only two canonical homosexuals in the entire comic! Too bad they're boring
>>4228
I actually think their plants look cool
>10/10 villain poses for Rough and Tumble.
They should win just for that!
>>4236
Cute background twinks
>>4239
>Since Knuckles is on Angel Island hell, Vector will be taking his role in this.
;_;
>>4243
>CHARMYYYYY!
lmao
>>4245
Such a bad boy, he'll need to be punished!
>>4248
Or Barry!
>>4249
>Rough gets locked in a cage and splooshed
I've changed my mind, this is a great comic!
>>4253
Boo, Tumble should have won!
>>4256
>I HATE THAT STUPID THING!!!
Rough should've stole that instead
>>4259
10/10 for Rough and Tumble making an appearance
meh/10 for everything else
>>4265
>I doubt that
Ha!
>>4274
lmao
No.4306
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Yeah... haha... hilarious... oh that Sonic...
No.4307
thirstposter ## VIP
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>>4306
They say yawning is catching, and I was certainly yawning during this one!
No.4310
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>>4307
The only good thing about the comic aside from the art was showing that there can be something worse than Evan. This is another special written by someone new and the Halloween special which was just as bad was written by another new name. I wonder why Barnes wasn't brought back for the specials. I don't know what else he has going on but he's definitely a big Sonic fan. No way he would turn down an offer to write more.
No.4311
thirstposter ## VIP
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>>4310
This one was mega bland. Gun to my head, I'd only be able to describe the plot as Sonic and friends do something with plants and Rough and Tumble were there causing trouble. I can't imagine this is what readers want from this comic. They settled on the winning formula with the first game 33 years ago: hedgehog with attitude goes on action-packed adventures in cool places and defeats a mad scientist. All successful versions of Sonic have built off this, with the only time breaking this basic concept has worked was in Boom, and they still had Sonic fighting Eggman almost every episode
No.4313
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>>4311
It is weird such an idea is foreign to Evan and the other writers. That being said, I think Evan could've done a better job writing this special but for some reason she wasn't able to. I don't know why she couldn't since we just got back from the Fang miniseries. The more I think about it, the more I wonder what is going on with IDW. Archie would've had Evan write and draw multiple issues and paid her with half eaten sandwiches.
No.4314
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>>4310
>This is another special written by someone new
It was bugging me so I looked up Josh Trujillo and he's mostly known for writing gay comics (seriously, one of them's called The FDA's Gay Blood Ban). I've not read any of them, but those sorts of comics tend to face way less scrutiny for being boring. He's on Blue Beetle now so he probably won't be contributing again
No.4316
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>>4314
>He's on Blue Beetle
Oh! I remember checking that comic out. It's mediocre but Jaime has a cute alien love interest and Ted Kord's sister obviously wants some bro-D.
No.4317
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>>4313
GotF had a lot of SoL stuff but it never shied away from the action. I do get the feeling she'd prefer to write Boom stories though
>The more I think about it, the more I wonder what is going on with IDW.
Yeah, something is definitely going on there. At the very least morale must be low with the looming threat of cancellation
>Archie would've had Evan write and draw multiple issues and paid her with half eaten sandwiches.
It's absolutely terrible just how little people in the comic industry get paid. I'm surprised they all don't leave to do lewd art on Patreon
>>4316
I've been meaning to check it out since I'm a Blue Beetle fan (both the Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes versions), but while the art looked good the plot didn't seem like much
>Ted Kord's sister obviously wants some bro-D
lmao
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>>4317
How did the same person that gave us evil Nicole give us... Clutch? I know he's got some fans but he's not doing it for me as a villain. Ebony Hare's a better crime boss than he is.
>lmao
I mean...
No.4322
Anonymous
Replies:>>4642
>>4306
This chick will praise anything Sonic as long as she thinks he's adorable in something
>>4310
>>4311
My theory is that they've relelgated these to just being SOL stuff. While the main comic is more actiony.
No.4642
thirstposter ## VIP
>>4318
>How did the same person that gave us evil Nicole give us... Clutch? I know he's got some fans but he's not doing it for me as a villain. Ebony Hare's a better crime boss than he is.
Rough and Tumble are more intimidating crime bosses than he is. I don't even see the point of him since his whole backstory of battling the previous generation of heroes can never be explored
>I mean...
And they say Sonic comics are weird!
>>4322
>This chick will praise anything Sonic as long as she thinks he's adorable in something
I think you've cracked the code for who actually likes these comics. It's just twitter people who want to see Sonic make cute faces. The plot literally doesn't matter to them
>My theory is that they've relelgated these to just being SOL stuff. While the main comic is more actiony.
Now all they need to do is add some action to the main comics, hew hew!
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>>3493
More Issue 70 previews
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>>179
Now for the continuing adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and his new ally and tech support, Eggman!
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>>5004
Will Evan redeem herself from last issue? Will Ian be blamed for it all again? Let's find out!
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>>5006
These pages before the comic starts is always weird.
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>>5007
Like Archie had 1-2 at most. But it's always 3 for IDW.
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>>5008
And here we go.
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>>5009
Goddamn Clean Sweep Inc.! Providing this cool race for everyone to enjoy! Evil!
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>>5010
HENSHIN TO GOGO BAYBEEE
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>>5011
What blood ritual or demonic pact did Evan commit to get a new costume for Sonic of all people approved by Sega?
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>>5012
Shame that Sonic is only playing distraction and can't let his secret identity get found out or else he'd be enjoying this more.
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>>5013
While these evil security guards coming out to stop Sonic from racing in his disguise, our real heroes sneak aboard and go snooping around as usual.
No.5015
Unofficial Conductor ## VIP
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>>5014
Things are going as planned so far.
No.5016
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>>5015
Lanolin, no!
No.5017
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>>5016
Lanolin stonks down!
No.5018
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>>5017
This is just how Surge greets people.
No.5019
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>>5018
Thank goodness Sonic can rely on his best bro Eggman's technology.
No.5020
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>>5019
And the race is already over!
No.5021
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>>5020
Surge stonks up! But Jet ain't buyin'!
No.5022
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>>5021
sus
No.5023
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>>5022
Man, Clutch is so devious!
No.5024
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>>5023
Into the trash!
No.5025
Anonymous
Replies:>>5028
>>5011
>>5013
That's a legit cool suit
No.5026
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>>5024
Oh no! It's Thing from the Adams Family! And he's been roboticized!
No.5027
Anonymous
Replies:>>5030
>>5010
The art is great!
No.5028
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>>5026
Why point with your own hand when you can have a robot hand do it for you?
>>5025
Designing it was probably Evan's favorite part of doing this story.
No.5029
Anonymous
Replies:>>5033>>5065
>>5012
Sonic is unleashing his inner asshole here. I’m convinced it’s not all entirely a play
No.5030
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>>5028
It's often forgotten and neglected, Belle!
>>5027
Yes it is!
No.5031
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>>5030
Now that we got past the comic stuff, time for more non-comic stuff!
No.5032
Anonymous
Replies:>>5035>>5092
>>5028
I’m really not a fan of Tails just taking Amy’s shit in anything. He never gets allowed to bite back so she’s just mean in not a good way
>>5030
I didn’t know Belle was kinky like that
No.5033
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>>5031
WORDS AND SCRIBBLES
>>5029
Always fun to see that.
No.5034
Anonymous
Replies:>>5038
>>5017
Sheep Tits needs some leadership/tard wrangle training. If there was only a Tomboy Princess or Her Brother around to show her the ropes....
No.5035
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>>5033
Looks like AOSTH version of Tangle.
>>5032
>I’m really not a fan of Tails just taking Amy’s shit in anything. He never gets allowed to bite back so she’s just mean in not a good way
Tails is just there to help out. It's a shame that he's not much of a character in this story.
No.5036
Anonymous
Replies:>>5039>>5065
>>5015
>mention a human based location
>never show humans
Why do they keep doing this.
No.5037
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>>5035
There's the cover again.
No.5038
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>>5037
Another one.
>>5034
Maybe she will see the consequences for her actions, cry, and learn from it.
No.5039
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>>5038
And another one.
>>5036
It's either this or Green Hill again.
No.5040
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>>5039
Buy these comics again!
No.5041
Anonymous
Replies:>>5044
>>5033
>another crossover
I’m honestly burned out in crossovers in Sonic comics.
>>5035
Just think if Amy has her bitch moments, other characters shouldn’t just take it. It’s what makes her so insufferable.
No.5042
Anonymous
Replies:>>5044
>>5023
Clutch looks like he pushes LSD Laced Chili Dogs. Then sells the medicine for it.
No.5043
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>>5040
And that's it. Rate the issue.
No.5044
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>>5041
>Just think if Amy has her bitch moments, other characters shouldn’t just take it. It’s what makes her so insufferable.
We're bringing the 2000s and 2010s back!
>>5042
He better watch out because Sonic and Eggman are on the case!
No.5045
Anonymous
Replies:>>5047
>>5039
>It's either this or Green Hill again
Sad
>>5043
It’s alright. I like the art more than anything else. Not too invested in surge but I wonder if they’re going to redeem her and her simp. Means the comic loses one of their few baddies and at least end up as anti heroes.
No.5046
Anonymous
Replies:>>5047
Oh yeah, thanks conductor.
>>5044
>We're bringing the 2000s and 2010s back!
Oh man…
No.5047
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>>5045
>It’s alright. I like the art more than anything else. Not too invested in surge but I wonder if they’re going to redeem her and her simp. Means the comic loses one of their few baddies and at least end up as anti heroes.
Plot twist! Surge and Kit become heroes and Lanolin becomes a villain!
>>5046
At least Amy's allowed to not lust after Sonic constantly.
No.5048
Anonymous
>>5019
I’d be a bit disappointed if Eggman doesn’t have the suit be a sort of trap for Sonic
No.5049
Anonymous
>>5017
>All that property damage
JJJ was right!
No.5050
Anonymous
>>5047
>Plot twist! Surge and Kit become heroes and Lanolin becomes a villain
Another twist being that she was a bad guy along that explains her some times strange behavior
No.5058
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>>5006
>Will Ian be blamed for it all again?
I just had a morbid thought. What if being blamed for everything is Ian's actual job? Think about it:
>Comics boring (likely due to Sega's overbearing influence)?
Ian's fault
>Plot and character interactions awkward and boring in Frontiers?
Ian's fault (even though his job was likely just dialogue localization)
>Prime a boring mess where Sonic is a special needs-level himbo?
Ian's fault (even though he just did some basic consulting on the lore)
>There's confusion about some aspect of the lore and fans are upset?
Ian's fault (mouthing off on his podcast doesn't help, but Sega are at best giving him vague explanations, and at worst contradictory ones)

Surely the issue with Sonic can't lie with Sonic Team or the Sega Execs, it must be that dastardly Flynn!
No.5061
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>>5058
He's definitely more public than Evan is in comparison. She's active on Press X for Doubt and tumblr but Ian's doing all those Q&A videos and making more tweets. He seems to be fine with all the publicity.
No.5062
Anonymous
Replies:>>5065
>>5006
>>5058
He poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!
No.5063
Anonymous
Replies:>>5065
>>5058
Well he has been IDW Sonic's de facto PR during all these years.
No.5065
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>>5007
Gotta fill up that page count without paying the artists!
>>5009
Sonic's Riders outfit is so cute!
>>5010
Look at all those distracted and therefore easily kidnappable twinks!
>>5011
They really went all out on cool OCs this issue. Also, lmao, Sonic's a magical girl now!
>>5012
It's a really nice suit
>>5014
Oh my!
>>5017
They should've just given her a straight up handgun
>>5017
lmao, as soon as Sonic wears a disguise, he goes straight to kidnapping twinks
>>5018
Her Riders outfit's way cooler than her regular one
>>5019
>Thank goodness Sonic can rely on his best bro Eggman's technology.
Well they are still technically married!
>>5021
Awww!
>>5022
I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it again. The Reformation needs to force Mimic to stay in that form and rent him out. That way he can finally start giving back to society!
>>5026
>Oh no! It's Thing from the Adams Family! And he's been roboticized!
And people say Eggman's gone soft!
>>5029
I'm still convinced IDWnic's actually Scourge
>>5030
>nose looks like a ball-gag
EVANNNNN!!!
>>5031
So cool!
>>5036
I just want to see humans lusting after mobians ;_;
>>5043
Not bad. Art was great, action was fun, but the side-plots were boring. Also, Rough and Tumble would've been perfect for this plot. They could even use their prototype outfits as Riders outfits!
>>5061
Yeah, like it or not, those podcasts really keep Ian as the face of the western side of the franchise
>>5062
Exactly!
>>5063
I think that's intentional on Sega's part, so they don't have to wear any complaints
No.5066
Anonymous
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No.5092
Anonymous
Replies:>>5203
>>5032
>I’m really not a fan of Tails just taking Amy’s shit in anything. He never gets allowed to bite back so she’s just mean in not a good way
I'm fine with that and I don't think is something that bad, to a certain extent. Tails is pleasantly calm to a fault, almost a doormat, he's one character that makes sense to be patient with Amy's bitchy streak but I do think he also shouldn't always just take it, he also should tease back in his own way. Tails has shown a sarcastic streak too, he's witty when he wants to and it would be fun if he sometimes demonstrated it with Amy who it turn could react flabbergasted because she simply doesn't expect Tails to bite back and tease her. It would add spice to their interactions, Amy can be somewhat mean to Tails because he can take it but not to the point she's obnoxiously rude to him, and if Amy does get really angry and violent, Tails is calm enough to de-escalate and defuse her temper. There's a certain balance to the underexplored Tails and Amy dynamic but they could be great if it's well written, it should feel like those two are actual friends, not just people that share the same orbit (Sonic).
No.5203
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I know this is a joke, but it still made me kinda mad thinking of what a Black Knight IDW adaption would be like. For those that don't know, Sonic outright kills this guy, only to find out he's an illusion
>>5015
SHIT! I got distracted by the bara security guards and didn't even point out sonic spanking his leather-clad butt at Jet. What a slut!
>>5092
Yeah, they've infantalized Tails more than a little in IDW. I'd love to see a more snarky dynamic between them, similar to what they had in Boom
No.5225
Anonymous
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Kek

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/57282576/
No.5226
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>>5225
Wait a minute, I recognize that artist!
No.5253
Anonymous
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>>5226
I could not resist to do the joke.
No.5274
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https://x.com/DanielS22R/status/1810313953920074063
>I read Issue #70 of IDW Sonic and really liked the Phantom Rider design, so I decided to make a reference sheet for fun. Hopefully this helps anyone who wants to draw him!
No.5284
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>>5253
Fun fact: 5 * 10^21cm is about 19% the width of our galaxy! What a trooper!
>>5274
Nice!
No.5299
Anonymous
Replies:>>5301>>5317
Evan with an explanation concerning an IDW issue
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/755461379621781504/in-issue-70-tails-says-that-hes-learned-to

>I’ve gotten a few questions along these lines– right now (jul. ‘24), IDW Sonic is still taking place in the space between Forces and Frontiers. If/when we’re allowed to move beyond Frontiers, we will make it VERY clear that that’s the case.

>Also, The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog is not considered canon so it doesn’t have a concrete place on the timeline. My personal headcanon is that a very similar event has happened sometime during the comic’s run, thus why Tails can make his reference and why we keep seeing Barry/the Conductor/his wife cameos.

>I got another comment asking about Eggman mentioning the Eggperial City in Sonic Dream Team, too… I can’t speak to that one, as I haven’t played the game yet (don’t have any Apple devices) and didn’t work on the game. That would be a good Bumblecast question.

>The comics exist in a stranger space, temporally speaking, than the games. These inconsistencies are unfortunately inevitable. Almost all long-running comics with un-aging characters end up getting weird time compression problems that you just can’t think about too much.


surprised to hear the visual novel isn't canon atm. Evan basically saying to not worry about the inconsistencies and she's kind of right. You'll go insane if you try putting the various messes together.
No.5301
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>>5299
No surprise. It didn't feel like it jumped past Frontiers because it felt like nothing happened. The entire series is doomed to noncanon "canon" limbo. It can't do anything to threaten the canon of the games even though it'll never be considered as canon to them.
No.5303
Anonymous
Replies:>>5310
>>5301
Frontiers is such a nothing game that going past it wouldn't be that noticeable.
No.5310
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>>5303
Anyone that wants post-Frontiers only wants Sage because there's no way Sega would allow IDW to do anything meaningful to the characters.
No.5315
Anonymous
Replies:>>5316>>5317
>>5310
What would be meaningful for IDW would just writing them well along with good stories. Not Frontiers promise they'll be better in a future mainlines while treating them like shit in said game.
No.5316
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>>5315
Ian's lost his drive, Evan hasn't really shown she can make compelling stories on her own, Barnes did good with Scrapnik Island, and the other writers that have done things like the specials haven't been that impressive (I didn't even realize that all the specials have been done by other writers who almost all have had no other writing credits for Sonic). I don't think we'll get anything better at this rate. It'd have to be Evan getting comfortable, setting her own pace, and working to her strengths. But I compare her work to when Ian first dropped in at issue 160 of Archie and that was a complete reversal in quality from Penders' final issues. Even Evan's Archie written stuff is better than her IDW stuff.
No.5317
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>>5299
>The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog is not considered canon
Boo! It's the best written Sonic thing in ages. IDW should just hire Ian Mutchler to write the comics
>>5310
Hey, I want the Koco to show up!
>>5315
Having everyone be intangible computer ghosts was so dumb. Just let them interact with Sonic instead of words words wordsing at him!
>>5316
Yeah, the whole thing feels listless, and almost spiteful towards the readers.
No.5328
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>>5317
>Yeah, the whole thing feels listless, and almost spiteful towards the readers.
Just seems to me that there's a competency issue with the way Evan is writing. I've seen enough of her writing throughout IDW to expect little payoff for whatever she's planning. The other writers don't give me much confidence if any of them get more chances to write. Evan's not good IMO but there's worse writing from others. But I'm just a random Sonic fancomic writer throwing rocks from his glass house.
No.5403
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>IDW Publishing grabbed a bigger slice of the pie, going from 4.2% to 7.1%
Is IDW saved? Maybe. They still have to figure out how to stop bleeding money from 90% of their company which seems to be what they're doing. IDW could split or cut down and focus only on putting out comics but I can see execs not wanting to limit their potential profit like that.
No.5447
Anonymous
Replies:>>5448
>>5403
How the hell are they increasing their share when all they have is TMNT and Sonic? And they just lost the Hasbro rights (Transformers, GI Joe) a few years ago.
No.5448
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>>5447
DC has been struggling and Last Ronin has done so well for them.
No.5459
Anonymous
Replies:>>5464
>>5448
eh, Last Ronin makes sense, but it's just 1 comic tilting an entire company so far. so I doubt they can sustain that momentum.
No.5464
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Replies:>>5838
>>5459
They're milking it as much as they can and putting Aaron on TMNT so they're really hoping they can keep it going. And the mystery crossover with Sonic is something else they might hope will help them.
No.5836
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>Today, images of an upcoming TMNT comic have been coming out and it has been causing quite a stir in the TMNT Community as well on Twitter, that being:
>This comes from the Turtle Power Forum which showcases upcoming TMNT Comic Issues. Now there is a possibility that this could be fake hence the rumour but if this is true - it is a really intresting crossover.
I think IDW's big business moves are still worth discussing, even if it's not Sonic-related. There's also the BIG Sonic crossover with something else. First Sonic gets a new costume and now a crossover. Sega is so unpredictable in what they're allowing.
No.5837
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Also Paul Kaminski must be nodding his head to all these crossovers but thinking they need to go bigger.
No.5838
Anonymous
Replies:>>5841
>>5464
>and putting Aaron on TMNT
Why do they think that would be a good thing ?
No.5841
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>>5838
It's the biggest name they can afford. Despite how infamous he is on some comic boards, he's a name that can get attention to a title. His Avengers stuff sold well enough, even if I wasn't a fan of it.
No.5865
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ABT shared some original pages. I remember the reduced boobs for Whisper, Blaze's reworked mouth, and now there's Vanilla's crazy expressions.
No.5868
Anonymous
>>5865
le scary mom is such a lame trope.
No.6113
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>Sonic the Hedgehog, Vol. 18: Extreme Competition
>👉 Releases April 2025
>👉 $16.99 US
>👉 Collects Issues #69-71, Spring Broken!, and Winter Jam
Damn this arc isn't even over yet. Then again this won't be out for several months. Still weird to see a solicit for this that far in advance.
No.6186
Anonymous
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New IDW solicitations
No.6187
Anonymous
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