This thread is for the IDW Sonic comics. So if that's all you want to talk about then you can do so here (you can still talk about IDW in the general thread). Let's start with Fang the Hunter #3. Why that? Because it just came out and I don't feel like posting the previous issues! But don't worry, here's links to the first two.
Fang the Hunter #1 https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141741723 Fang the Hunter #2 https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/142469903
>>186 >>187 Eggman being a cunt is based. >>186 >He is pretty different from even the earlier IDW issues with him. Yeah some may scream it's more like his original self! but he's just not that likeable in this series
>>197 I really like Thomas's pencils. Underrated and probably one of my faves. Also I like how all these 2d game panels are basically homages to triple trouble special doing it
>>201 You know, obviously classicshit has been the past and even tho it's now it, theres still that separation so no way they would actually show starline but i could be surprised
>>202 Okay it's not a chaos emerald but the fact it's something else makes it better. Since when is a chaos emerald so good? You need the other six to complete the set!
>>204 Fang should've known that was going to be his response. >>203 Killing off Starline was such a waste. At least let him stick around so Evan can use him.
>>212 One of these days, someone will take Iizuka up on his offer and make zeti OCs to expand upon the race. And then get hit with a bunch of mandates and they'll have to be kept one dimensional like the Deadly Six and that person will have learned a valuable lesson.
>>213 Ha. I think they'll get some "deep" lore one day, but it won't necessary make people like the all too much. Speaking of them, they havent appeared in IDW in literal years at this point. Wow, and they were a big part for a while.
>>181 >It's better than the last two issues. I suppose. The only reason I'm giving it a shot is that Bark's on the cover >>182 Hey, it's best boy Crabmeat! >>184 Yeah, it's bad enough Flynn would write him all zany like Woody Woodpecker, but this is way worse
>>188 >This is like the third time this has happened with the Heavies. Maybe naming one of them "King" wasn't the best idea >>193 >Damn, Fang is smert! Nice to see someone other than Tails working this sort of thing out >>195 Poor Bark ;_; >>198 >I did not care for this boss battle in Sonic Mania. The Ninja was even worse when you're playing as Knuckles ;_; >>199 The expressions are great too >>201 >Will Starline's corpse also appear? I'm still mad! >>208 They're fine as a one-off thing for Mania, but not very interesting outside of that >>218 Ha! I'd still play it
>>218 >silver goes back in time to make sure lost world never happens >>251 >The only reason I'm giving it a shot is that Bark's on the cover The wishy washy good/bad boy. >>252 >I'm still mad! Such a waste.
>>259 >silver goes back in time to make sure lost world never happens Hey, the 3ds version was actually pretty fun! >The wishy washy good/bad boy. Interestingly, the Hooligans/Bark and Bean being mercenaries is something Flynn came up with. Bean and Bark are actually Sonic's friends in Sonic the Fighters, to the point where he entrusted each of them with guarding a chaos emerald. Fang stole his emerald from another of Sonic's friends, likely Mighty, Ray, or Vector >Such a waste. I'm convinced someone at IDW will bring him back
>>322 I won't lie, I would prefer IDW to be scrapped. It's a failed series and anything short of a major shakeup isn't going to save it and I doubt they'd go looking for a replacement for Evan and Ian. Also, they seemed to have let go some people to save costs. The ship is slowly sinking.
>>325 Always sounds bad from those reports which I can see what people mean by that > I would prefer IDW to be scrapped. It's a failed series and anything short of a major shakeup Yeah I read the comic as it's own thing instead of just disliking because it's not another but never felt too attached to anything. Always kinda did feel they blew their load early with metal virus as that seems like a later in life type of arc for a comic than so early. but That Eggperial City arc really turned me off from it.
I guess that possible shake up you're refering could possibly be that new phantom rider guy but he's gonna be tied to just a racing type rival me thinks so not THAT big of a deal.
>>326 I'm past the point of giving IDW the benefit of the doubt. It's been disappointment after disappointment. At least with a new writer I won't know what to expect. That's why Scrapnik Island was so refreshing.
>>327 Yeah, if you're just not liking the comic, it's okay to not really wanting to engage with it, althought I appreciate you still doing the storytime here
It's such a shame that Lanolin did not turn out to be the Sally expy for IDW. I would've written her the same way and given her and Sonic the most intense friendly tension that even if there wasn't anything romantic in the comic, the fandom would ship them to hell and back. It'd be the most eyebrow raising friendship. Every time you see Sonic, he's with her and you wonder what they were doing before. And of course there'd be banter and swapping smug looks.
>>484 I kinda see what you mean but I'm kinda glad she wasn't and just her own thing despite everything than just being another character. Plus that sort of dynamic with a girl is too powerful for them to ever have again desu
https://twitter.com/AdamBryceThomas/status/1782685051723080138 From ABT therefore Lanolin's canonical mother that will never be shown in the comic. Maybe. Not sure if IDW OCs are allowed to have family members. Though I know that background-ish characters have had family members like that park ranger bear and his son that Tangle and Belle rescued. Remember Belle? They should bring her back. In Pog form!
>>325 >It's a failed series It's almost impressive how rapidly IDW went down the shitter. >9 issues in Shadow jobs like a fucking moron >20 issues wasted on the Zombot arc >introduce Tangle and Whisper, fans like them, immediately turn them into whiny one-note crying lesbians >introduce Belle, who's whiny and one-note from the start >introduce Surge and Kit, fans get genuinely hyped, proceed to have them fuck up and job as hard as Shadow did >introduce Lanolin, fan-favorite background character, turn her into an obstructive bitch
Everything the series had going for it, it fucked up.
>>1392 >be ian and evan >get to work on sonic again under a new publisher >have to start over, can't use any archie characters, more restrictions than before >do big zombot story that was originally meant for archie >covid and delays and 15 issues make it a slog for readers >stop giving a fuck and have other sonic non-comic projects >years later and just going through the motions >always wondering when idw will go under so keep the stories short and simple As always, it feels like writer burnout at this point and any attempt at ambition seems to not be worth it for the writers. I think about Barnes and Scrapnik Island was fine. But he does seem like the kind of person that doesn't mind the strict Sega restrictions. He might be better suited for writing a truly game version of Sonic.
>>1407 >always wondering when idw will go under so keep the stories short and simple They're not even doing this. Surge and Kit needed a dozen issues for their introductory arc.
But I agree that they're likely just going through the motions. After all Ian's been through -- legal shenanigans with Penders, reboots, fandom drama, mandates, etc. -- who can blame him for not giving a shit?
>Barnes and Scrapnik Island was fine Scrapnik Island is a great story. If Barnes was writing for the rest of IDW, and doing it as well as he did Scrapnik Island, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But he seemed to actually have enthusiasm and want to portray the characters well.
I thought scrapnik was overrated shit and the moment I got to Mecha saying the meme line is when I disliked it forever, and don't want barnes on the books ever again. I really don't get the glazing over memberberry rehash the mini series.
>>1483 >They're not even doing this. Surge and Kit needed a dozen issues for their introductory arc. Imposter Syndrome was Ian's last big story before stepping away and working for Sega more directly. He got his big milestone issue and to kill off his villain OC. But in the last year or two things have definitely slowed down and shortened. >>1484 The callbacks to previous stuff didn't hit me hard like it did with the others. It was just a simple story with a new (old) location and some new and old characters.
>>1485 I dunno, It's just one of those things I just can't like due to how it is personally. >imposter syndrome You know, I kind of think that whole thing was a mess. Like surge changing motivations on whim and getting her ass kicked constantly. Yeah she's a bad guy but whoof. way to make her look bad. And kit... honestly I forget what he does and his purpose than just being her simp. You think they'd do more but no, just simp mode. Imposter duo are kinda mid to me in idw despite the supposed hype.
>>1484 >>1486 For me I just liked the pacing and sense of stakes on Scrapnik Island way better than anything else in IDW. It's four issues, doesn't have a pointless page of Whisper crying, and Mecha actually seems like a threat to Sonic unlike Surge or Clutch or any of the shitty IDW-original villains. Sure, Sonic's foot is injured, but Mecha puts up a decent fight despite being pretty chewed up as well, which is more than you can say for Surge.
It also lends a bit of credibility to IDW Sonic's forgiving nature since he's actually able to convince Mecha Sonic to change.
>>1526 >get a powerful gem that lets you warp anywhere you want >don't think it was worth getting Oh, I see how it is. If it exploded then Bean would love it.
>>1530 That's right kids! If you want to see what happens next then get the next Sega game, Sonic Superstars! A new classic that's worth buying the most expensive version of to get all the bells and whistles!
>>1539 Thanks conductor but god... I can't believe they stopped the comic for this SHIT >asshole mooks >mid mystery >sonic and tails appearances were pointless >more of the one note, classic deadly six >all to shill sonic super mid stars
From Mega Drive back in Archie to now, the entire classic comic fad will die before a single one is made about Tails throwing bombs at birds. No wonder they're so boring.
>>1543 >flickies This is the saddest part. A possible comic would be guaranteed to not be able to live up to the story of the game that was just a Game Gear title from the early 90s.
>>1543 > Flickies needing to save Tails' ass again. >Tails had no problem going solo but he struggles more a second time even though the entire thing was just a retread of the game's plot. Why.
Since it's the IDW thread, here's some art by Natalie Haines, who has done some of the covers. Technically this makes pic related canon to IDW, even if it's Boom! https://www.tumblr.com/lightningstar1389/749386491847950336
>>1638 So why am I posting this? Because I wanted to try and say something positive about IDW for once and talk about my favorite IDW cover, pic related. It's a traditionally painted acrylic on canvas done in a mock renaissance style and directly references my favorite painting
>>1639 That painting is The Fallen Angel, and was painted in 1847 by French artist Alexandre Cabanel. It's based on Milton's poem Paradise Lost and the Book of Revelation, specifically its account of the War in Heaven. Here we see Lucifer cast out from Heaven, covering his face in shame and shedding a single tear.
If we look at his expression, that tear isn't one of sorrow or contrition, but one of rage and resentment. There is only one thing on his mind: revenge. Some other things to note are the contrast between the soft forms of Lucifer and the angels in the sky, and the harsh dark angles of the rocks below. While depicted in the perfect Greek hero style, Lucifer is not just naked (in contrast to the angels above) but "laid bare." His plot has been uncovered and his defiance against the Creator is out in the open for all to see. You'll also note that his wings are mottling from their original blue color, like autumn leaves. He's no longer like his brethren in the sky, but is becoming something else
One of the really cool things about this painting is that people like it for a variety of reasons, from admiration of his continued defiance against impossible odds and sympathy for the situation he's found himself in, to satisfaction that the righteous justice of divine punishment has been met out against his arrogance. Personally, I just love how well the emotion has been conveyed. That, and I have a thing for redheads
The original image is over 50mb, so I had to compress it a heap. You can find it here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Alexandre_Cabanel_-_Fallen_Angel.jpg
I've been trying for days to write something about the latest IDW issue that isn't just pointless bitching, so this is the best I can do to contribute to this thread
>>1640 Most people familiar with that painting might not know that he actually did a followup in 1848, called The Evening Angel. Gone is the anger and thoughts of revenge, and instead we see Lucifer draped in cloth with a contemplative expression, sitting comfortably and overlooking a modern (for 1848) city. Here is a being that's made peace with his past and separated himself from his Creator, but is wondering what to do next
I'm sure you can all draw parallels between these two paintings and Shadow yourselves
>>1639 >>1640 i'm sorry i really don't see how the idw cover "references" the fallen angel. Shadow's just hanging there limply doing an angry expression. He's not even facing the same direction as the lucifer painting, or doing a similar pose, and the background and palette are completely different. The pose looks much more like Christ off the cross however
>>1658 It really just references the look, and renaissance/romantic paintings in general. The artist goes into detail on her process, and explicitly mentions that painting here: https://twitter.com/Ls1389/status/1628864057775104093 You can also see the reference being more explicit in the thumbnails, especially the crossed out pose. >The pose looks much more like Christ off the cross however I can't place the specific painting, but I think you're right Really I just wanted a chance to infodump on my favorite painting
>>1638 >>1639 >>1640 >>1641 >>1659 Saying something positive about IDW? You're going too fucking far pal late reply but better than never I kid I kid. Very nice analysis posts about that art. Also, lightningstar is such a great artist and always awesome to see their sonic work. Amazing coloring for their pieces. Sorry for the negative attitude towards the comic if it bothered you. Personally didn't find it that good due to my above reasons, but I did at least have positive sayings towards the artist.
>>1839 >Saying something positive about IDW? You're going too fucking far pal I figure the occasional nice word balances out all my Flynn bashing posts! Yeah, I'm hoping we'll see some fancomics from ligntningstar at some point. Hopefully an adaption of Paradise Lost but with Sonic characters! >spoiler Not at all! I'm not a fan either, especially considering the only interesting characters are non-Eggman villains. At least they're allowed to have some actual fun, whereas the heroes are all either moping or doing fire safety PSAs
https://x.com/thomas_rsvd/status/1794402060483346565 >Here's the clean version of my cover for @IDWPublishing's Sonic the Hedgehog #72. >First time coloring a cover, so I went with a limited palette to keep things "simple". Those limitations bring their own challenges- but I'm glad people seem to like the end result. 🙂
>>2558 I believe the post went something like >black white color scheme >false sense of authority >unlikable (i think that was the third one) >picture of geoffrey
>>2554 >>2555 >>2557 >>2558 >>2559 I love how Lanolin is just suddenly in charge and nobody questions anything. Though I guess when you accept spazzes like Tangle and perpetually-sobbing messes like Whisper into your ranks, anyone who can manage a stern tone of voice seems like a leader.
>>2568 Lanolin's the only one that wants to be a leader in the entirety of the Restoration. Amy used to be but she suddenly didn't and Jewel has been reluctant since the beginning. She seems to be more comfortable but now she's lonely. And it's a miracle Sonic is still around since he'd more than likely disappear and not come back for months.
Lanolin was at least active in the background for most of the series and showing initiative in forming a group. Tangle is just Sonic-lite with half the IQ and Whisper will always be a follower. The bar is just that low.
Sorry Fangbros, your time to shine is over. Now we're back to the highly acclaimed and popular IDW Sonic the Hedgehog series! And we have the start of an actual arc! Let's check out issue 69 (nice)!
>>2598 Archie Crabmeat is underrated. Hey look barry, also I kinda like how the restoration is looking to help the world a lot. GUN seems to be lacking in that deparment. Also weird reminder but fleetway mobians had them make fun of Eggman on TV too
>>2601 Pointing out but why does Sonic have those glasses if he never uses them. Never made any sense, plus theyre small. >>2603 Tailsbros... Wave is making fun of our guy >>2605 >>2606 Jet you deserved to get yelled at. Also Tangle being cute
>>2631 Because she's not being nice in issue 69! I've seen a lot of back and forth on twitter, mainly out of curiosity. One person on there said that if Shadow said and did all that, nobody would care and even expect him to be that way. In fact, that would fuel more Sonadow art. Where's the Sonalin art where she's tsun for him and being overly serious while reluctantly showing affection for him?
>>2626 69/100 I liked it more the entirety of the boring Fang mini. Only real questionable thing from me is working with Eggman on something that isn't world threatening. Would not be a good look if people found out
>>2633 >One person on there said that if Shadow said and did all that, nobody would care and even expect him to be that way. In fact, that would fuel more Sonadow art actually true. It's okay with Shadow is mean lol. >Where's the Sonalin art where she's tsun for him and being overly serious while reluctantly showing affection for him? She's too bitter to have any fun banter with Sonic lol
https://x.com/HagusAnimations/status/1796024455237431642 >Mimic Revealed- Bad Ending >I don't think she'll react THIS harshly, but if she did, I could see Tangle and Whisper tracking her down. A nice moment for all of them to truly bond, and a chance for Lanolin to see that she is valued by her team.
>>2716 It's a step up from multiple short stories every issue. And then the series was halted for Fang the Hunter. I'm morbidly curious about what's going on behind the scenes at IDW.
>>2717 >I'm morbidly curious about what's going on behind the scenes at IDW. Honestly, it's probably really depressing. The company itself is failing, the artists take potshots at the characters, and Ian and Evan constantly complain about being strangled by mandates. It doesn't seem like anyone really enjoys churning this comic out.
>>2719 >be ian >go through the forced archie reboot after they lost to penders in court >go through the cancellation of the archie comics >dragging through the idw comics and finally get partial freedom and let evan suffer Why is writing comics for a blue animal that runs fast be such a constant slog that drains the life out of a person that's passionate about the franchise?
>>2722 SEGA, that's why. It really is depressing though, there's a palpable lack of giving a fuck on Ian's part nowadays.
His Archie run had flaws, but you could see that he was really trying to create a cohesive world with interesting worldbuilding, and had a lot of ambitious ideas for plotlines -- an evil technomage Queen, a brainwashed Knuckles as Enerjak, buffing up anti-Sonic into Scourge, a villain other than Max HUEHUEHUE on the Acorn throne, etc.
Now with IDW it's all just recycled Archie plots with half the enthusiasm. A crime boss like Mogul, fem-Scourge, and so on. But since they can't and/or won't do any worldbuilding, there's no possible way to see how people are affected by it or what it matters to the larger world.
>>2716 I at least think it's picked up it's pace a little. Fang comic just stopped it wholesale until recently. Continuing the Clean Sweep conpiracy thing. More interesting than explaining what some magic rock was doing years before despite not showing up in the game they're shilling for. No idea what they were thinking with that. >>2722 >>2722 Working on this series just drains you in general. Hell, being a fan of it does that. Eventually, we'll all turn into a lanolin.
>>2723 IDW really needs more than Ian and Evan writing. Barnes seems to like game accurate Sonic. Maybe give him another shot. >>2724 Well those delays are another bigger problem with IDW. >>2725 >No idea what they were thinking with that. Part of their smaller stories time to possibly take time to reorganize and figure out what to do since their future is uncertain.
>>2726 >give Barnes another shot Agreed, Scrapnik Island had an enthusiasm that's way lacking in the rest of the strip. It also had an interesting setting and a menacing villain, other things that IDW lacks.
>>2470 IDW's been getting some really nice covers >>2559 I wish Lanolin had that smug gaslighting energy of Geoffrey. We need a new Lien-Da tier schemer >>2590 Nice cover, and it's always good to see Sonic in his Riders outfit >>2592 I can't wait for the fire PSAs! >>2593 Such a pimpin' coat >>2594 This could've been an entire spread of slutty Duo pics ;_; >>2595 Nice to see Nite make a return. Sorry Whispangle appreciators, but he's the only canonically gay character in IDW (other than his boyfriend Don)! >>2598 Hey, it's that slut Barry! >Crabmeatbros Best character in Archie, best character in IDW! >>2601 Sonic looking extra cute in the second panel >Unfortunately, given how the games are. Hey, the Riders games are kino! Well, maybe not Free Riders >>2609 >Mimic can be any twink you want him to be. Pic related! >>2611 They're so cute! >>2614 >the restoration uses Windows XP That explains so much >>2615 I wholeheartedly approve of Clean Sweep's hiring practices! >>2620 He's eating evil ham! >>2621 >Except Rough and Tumble! They stink! Hawt! >>2622 >Sonic in a skintight bodysuit Pic related, again! >>2627 A perfect rating! >>2628 >Pointing out but why does Sonic have those glasses if he never uses them. Never made any sense, plus theyre small. It's because they look cool! And Knuckles' goggles make his pecs look bigger >>2632 It is! >>2634 >Cubot with a body pillow... How the fuck did that get through? Sega's a Japanese company, they have to know what those are for!
>>2734 >He's eating evil ham! Even if you say it's mobini ham, that's still weird to think a diner run by mobians serves meat like that. One of the cursed questions best to never ask or try to get an answer for. Knowing Iizuka, he'd make a mandate to have it so that meat can never be shown in anything.
>>2748 >that's still weird to think a diner run by mobians serves meat like that. Maybe most non-pig Mobians are okay with it? Humans co-exist with lesser non-sentient primates like monkeys, and we still eat meat. We don't generally eat monkey meat, so pig Mobians probably don't eat pork, but others might.
>>2748 >>2833 Fortunately it's one of the things Iizuka isn't super weird about. Mobians/Sonic Worldians have been consistently referred to as animal people, where their species is more akin to a person's race. We've seen regular dogs, orcas and pigeons in 06 as well as cats, whales and African animals (giraffes, elephants, etc) in Unleashed so there's a clear distinction on what's dinner and what's a person. As for the animal friends/mobini/critters, they're on the same level of intelligence as Chao so they're (probably) not for eating >>2865 lmao, they actually parodied that in Boom: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Return_of_the_Buddy_Buddy_Temple_of_Doom
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https://x.com/ChaoticSonicFan/status/1797703503634427968 I'm so fascinated by this drama. I find it fun. Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits.
I also think about how I'd write Lanolin. Maybe keep her the same. She seems fine as she is personality-wise but her usage isn't good. She needs some accomplishments and cool moments under her belt. She almost had one in that one arc where her team got ghosted but then it all fell flat. It's like early Antoine where he butted heads with Sonic and was straight up out for his ass and tried to get rid of him. Then he got more serious and badass moments, dropped his beef with Sonic, and continued being the cowardly yet also courageous dork.
>>2972 Holy fucking kek! >Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits. And because she didn't turn out like sally to you... I kid I kid >>2973 That is completely reasonable. If lanolin did more super cool things, maybe they would hate her less for being right
>>2972 In a way, I'm glad some people are actually having fun with IDW >Probably because I don't care about Lanolin aside from her big tits. At least you're honest! >>2973 >She seems fine as she is personality-wise but her usage isn't good Exactly! A big problem I have with IDW is the stakes never seem high. For a large chunk of Archie, the only thing keeping Robotnik from nuking half the planet was that he'd already done that and wanted to stretch out his current conquest.
IDW doesn't need to go that dark, but putting non-game characters like Lanolin up against a threat only Sonic and co can handle would go a long way to raising the stakes and showing just how much a threat Eggman really is. I'd love to see Lanolin and co go up against Metal Sonic survival horror-style, where they can't outright win, but can save civilians and keep him occupied for long enough for reinforcements to arrive
>>2974 I thought she was going to have her chance but nope! A cool enough entrance at the end of the last big arc then the day's saved by the game characters and she's not even shown at the big party at the end. >>2977 >IDW doesn't need to go that dark, but putting non-game characters like Lanolin up against a threat only Sonic and co can handle would go a long way to raising the stakes and showing just how much a threat Eggman really is. I'd love to see Lanolin and co go up against Metal Sonic survival horror-style, where they can't outright win, but can save civilians and keep him occupied for long enough for reinforcements to arrive This is when those villain OCs would be useful because they can get their ass beat by the ero OCs and Sega wouldn't mind. I miss Metal Sonic getting beaten and I know Sega would veto him losing to IDW's characters in current year.
>>2981 The way they want metal sonic to be respected but just have him loose all the time is hilarious. Complete loser. I’d pay to see the diamond cutters beat his ass > A cool enough entrance at the end of the last big arc then the day's saved by the game characters and she's not even shown at the big party at the end. I thought I was the only person bothered by this. She is just straight up gone. That arc was kind of a mess
>>2983 OVA and some media got people think he’s cooler than he actually is. He’s carried by his looks and that’s it. And personally, never really cared for that “muh am the real sonic” crap. Plain old metal sonic ain’t all that
>>2981 >This is when those villain OCs would be useful because they can get their ass beat by the ero OCs and Sega wouldn't mind. I miss Metal Sonic getting beaten and I know Sega would veto him losing to IDW's characters in current year. I think they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the gay duck, since there was all this build up of him being a serious threat with his own team of brainwashed lackeys that were hyped as the perfect counter to Sonic and Tails (their powers are lightning and water, Tail's and Sonic's main weaknesses). For him to be killed by Eggman with almost no effort really ruined the idea that IDW would ever have other villains that are a real threat >>2983 >>2984 He's got a lot of attitude in CD (the finger wagging, leaving holograms of himself bullying critters just to taunt Sonic) and the OVA (as well as looking really cool), but Heroes really dropped the ball. We never even get to fight him in his regular form! >never really cared for that “muh am the real sonic” crap I've always seen it as Metal having an ego that rivals Eggman (and Sonic), so while he knows Sonic is the original, he views himself as the superior and therefore "real" Sonic
>>2995 They were really banking on Starline. In a way, I kind of understand Ian saying he thought his story was done but he was THE big one. You could say surge and kit are them now but ehhh... It's just clutch using them now for his own goals atm for the restoration.
>>2995 >I think they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the gay duck, since there was all this build up of him being a serious threat with his own team of brainwashed lackeys that were hyped as the perfect counter to Sonic and Tails (their powers are lightning and water, Tail's and Sonic's main weaknesses). For him to be killed by Eggman with almost no effort really ruined the idea that IDW would ever have other villains that are a real threat Just felt like Ian wanted no one else to use Starline when he stopped being the main writer. That's his villain. Clutch is Evan's big villain. Mimic and the imposters are still used but they're just Clutch's lackeys. I don't even know what's up with Rough and Tumble.
>>2995 >>2996 >>3000 The lack of good villains is what really kills IDW for me. Vegetadow barely appears and Whisper's crying usually only lasts a page, but what's the fucking point of reading any of this if nobody can feasibly challenge Sonic? Starline was the best they had, and he wasn't even Naugus-tier.
Honestly, the guy who probably seemed the most sinister and menacing was Mecha Sonic in Scrapnik Island, which is kinda funny since he's the only villain that Sonic managed to redeem.
>>3001 I'm fine if Sonic's never outright beaten by his enemies. Just make him work for his victory and make it look good. Surge got pretty close when she was shocking him in the water. It just didn't feel earned because her handling was such a mess at that point. If she was a proper replacement for Scourge, she could've been harassing Sonic and just barely get warded off for next time. Then she sets up a big trap for Sonic and almost wins but her power overloads and she passes out. This current arc might be Clutch's last chance to show he can be a big villain. But getting Sonic, Tails, and Amy disqualified is Dick Dastardly tier villainy.
>>2996 >>3000 39 issues of buildup and Ian just took his ball and went home. I get he wanted to kill off a major villain for the 50th issue to echo Endgame but it just rings hollow. We don't have many characters in IDW so killing off one of the well received ones is just shooting yourself in the foot >I don't even know what's up with Rough and Tumble. They're supposed to be joke villains but they've actually got a better win record than Surge and Kit. I don't think any of the writers are interested in using them since their connection with Tangle was scrapped and the writers don't seem to like comedy-focused stories >>3001 >what's the fucking point of reading any of this if nobody can feasibly challenge Sonic? The writers need to read some Superman comics if they want to see how to write engaging stories where the protagonist is OP >Scrapnik Island That story did a great job of keeping the stakes high and shows that it's still possible to write stories where Sonic is at a clear disadvantage
>>3003 >>3004 I don't mind Sonic being OP, you'd expect it from a world-renowned hero with super-speed. But you can't give him villains who are all powerless muggles like Clutch or jobbers like Surge. Both Archie and game Sonic have regularly duked it out with giant robots and evil gods, are we really supposed to believe that he'd need more than 2 seconds to deal with any of the IDW-original villains?
>The writers need to read some Superman comics if they want to see how to write engaging stories where the protagonist is OP Not even that, just introduce villains who have combat-oriented superpowers, like literally any other comic book superhero has. Blaze has fire powers, so introduce a dude with ice powers. Introduce a dude who can fuck with gravity or something. It's completely basic stuff for an action comic or Shonen anime, and IDW can't seem to manage it.
>>3056 Another altered version of a forbidden-by-Sega character. >>3057 I wonder what the big threat is this time. Halloween Sonic, Tails, and the Chaotix beat up some kids. And the summer special had Sonic and the OCs have a friendly game with the rogues.
>sonic teaming up with eggman after everything he's done so they can find out who sabotaged their extreme gear boards and rigged a race Reminds me of the time MLK worked with KKKman to solve the mystery of the missing socks.
>>3494 The stakes are so backwards. Clutch better be hiding a world destroying doomsday weapon somewhere and that only puts him on par with the Eggperial City alone.
>>3493 >>3497 Sonic should only really work with Eggman with super big threats. While some people would say Sonic wouldn’t care what others would say, this just makes him look bad. Amy and Tails too but they’re his biggest ass kissers and have no real thoughts except following his blue butt. If this was know to someone like lanolin and Eggman victims it’ll be a shit show but I don’t even know if they would actually follow up on that if they did. It’d probably just end with them saying they’re okay with that and have no differing opinions.
Also >central city >still just mobians and no humans Aww man. I was thinking a world race would show more than just the furries but it’s looking that it won’t.
>>3507 It might be the clashing stakes in Ian and Evan. Ian's all about raising stakes and edge but Evan isn't as well suited for it and seems to like casual villainy.
>>3602 Evan seems to like calmer stories more. I remember when people were begging for Evan to do that after the metal virus. >>3612 Looking back, it's so out of place compared to the current comic. Like it's own bubble of existance.
>>3493 >Reminds me of the time MLK worked with KKKman to solve the mystery of the missing socks. I'd unironically read that comic >>3503 I remember thinking how frustrating it was that they just did a pale retread of Heroes but at least it had cool action scenes >>3507 Game Sonic's only ever worked with Eggman when the world was literally at stake in SA2 (the Ark was going to crash into Earth and wipe out all life), 06 (technically he was dead and others worked with Eggman), Lost world (only pretended to work with Eggman and tried to kill him at the end) and Frontiers (The End was going to wipe out all life). In fact, the only other games where Sonic's not outright tried to kill Eggman are Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, where he wasn't the villain.
I absolutely loathe the idea that Sonic would ever be buddy buddies with Eggman (outside of Boom, since he's barely even a villain there) and it frustrates me to no end that the writers would even consider it.
>>3508 It cracks me up that Sonic and Blaze went to Spagonia and there were absolutely no humans around. You can tell they're just not allowed to draw them since even the mannequin in the shop front was Mobian-shaped. Judging from the recent Sonic Channel art, my guess is Sonic Team's still not settled on a human artstyle yet >>3602 I just don't think readers are all that interested in SoL stories in a Sonic comic unless they're an occasional short break from action-heavy arcs
>>3708 >I just don't think readers are all that interested in SoL stories in a Sonic comic unless they're an occasional short break from action-heavy arcs If Sega allowed romance then a comic filled with shipping would be more popular than anything else. There's also gags and memes. That's popular with the people posting on X The Website Formerly Known as Twitter but I don't know if they're the same crowd that buys the comics.
>>3798 Yeah, even if it were just the non-game cast having relationships the comic would be way more popular. They'd make absolute bank if they were even able to hint at Sonadow >That's popular with the people posting on X The Website Formerly Known as Twitter but I don't know if they're the same crowd that buys the comics. I think they're deliberately trying to court these people but even though they do post positive things about IDW, they just don't buy the comics. At this point I'm not even sure who the comic is for. It's not for diehard fans (I don't own a single issue and have all the Archie collected volumes), it's not for casual readers since the multi-year overarching plots make it difficult for new readers to jump on, it's not for game fans since Sonic acts so out of character and nothing game-related happens (no Forces or Frontiers adaptions or even references), and it's not for romance fans since there's none of that allowed
>>3802 I think it's for the hardcore Sonic game fans and casual Sonic fans. The ones who buy Sonic merch. It's not tied to the games but it is focused on the game characters (sometimes). IDW has done well with creating OCs that game fans like, even if they're not used well. I don't want to talk shit about Sonic Frontiers but I've seen all these "hype" moments and things people obsess over and it all looked so janky and unappealing. So while I find the IDW comics mediocre and lacking, I also see the recent Sonic games that way. If someone likes those games and characters then the comics are an inoffensive supplement to them. That is, if they buy the comics.
>>3804 If that's the case then they really messed up since Sonic acts nothing like his game counterpart. IDW rant: I'm fine with Archienic and Fleetwaynic not acting like their game counterparts since there wasn't a unified canon until Sonic Adventure (and because those settings stand up on their own merits). IDW's got the same issue as Prime, stating it's the same canon as the games only serves to highlight its shortcomings. Gamenic would never go that easy on Eggman and it frustrates me to no end >Frontiers I actually really enjoyed it, but I can see why many would find it mid. The music's great, but the entire game's clearly a (paid for!) public beta for their next game. As much as I'll hate on Flynn, the writing was fine here, even if the story doesn't fit the established lore (The End, the chaos emeralds, the Ancients, etc) and the character development's just a retread of previous games (neither of which Flynn had any control over) >I've seen all these "hype" moments Hey, they are all hype! Because they're straight out of Evangelion >Forces Not many people know this but Forces was mostly a testbed for the hedgehog engine 2, the most advanced scene rendering and real-time lighting engine in existence. Sure the gameplay was short, simplistic and boring, the plot was unfinished, and the physics were jank, but it was objectively lit better than any other game!
>>3805 With Ian being a a part of everything for Sonic (not sure about the movies) tells me Sega wants some consistency to better sell everything to the same group of people. Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show.
>>1639 >>1640 Oh boy, do I have an update! Remember that Chaos comic where Shadow gets turned into a girl and Sonic gets aids from Max? Well the artist is back and doing Sonic art again! >>3806 Ian's been involved with the comics, two Boom episodes, general background on Prime (and wasn't happy the writers ignored his notes), co-writing Frontiers (dialog, not story), but not the movies. Honestly, he isn't given a lot of wiggle room and my guess is he's only been brought in to placate fans. As for consistency, all the ultimate decisions are made by a bunch of out of touch executives in SoJ. Not even Iizuka has any real say on Sonic >Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show. It would honestly be better if he could do that (at least in IDW) since he knows Archienic inside and out
>>3708 Yeah it's just kinda weird how they team up for something less low stakes. I thought the art style for humans was the unleashed ones which I'm sure the IDW artists are more than qualified to draw. It's more and more bullshit everytime they mention or show some location with humans but there's only mobians. I wonder if any human that isn't Eggman will ever appear at this point in it. >>3804 >I don't want to talk shit about Sonic Frontiers but I've seen all these "hype" moments and things people obsess over and it all looked so janky and unappealing You're not wrong, that's exactly what it is >>3805 On one hand, I can understand them wanting some "consistency". On the other, it will never be truly straight because how fucking consistently inconsistent this franchise. They wanted to pander to the anal retentive fans but that's just a mistake and makes them more annoying >>3806 >Of course if Ian had his way, everything would be more like Archie and Sonic would sucking face with Sally in every game, comic, and show. You almost say this as if this would be a bad thing ;)
>>3815 >Yeah it's just kinda weird how they team up for something less low stakes. It just doesn't make any sense. He almost wiped out all life on Earth with the metal virus. Not only would Sonic be willing to kill him, random civilians in the restaurant would be too >I thought the art style for humans was the unleashed ones which I'm sure the IDW artists are more than qualified to draw. They've revised it a few times, but the current version is derived from the unleashed style. You can see it in the latest Sonic Channel art. I agree the artists would easily be able to handle it, but my guess is they're not allowed to show humans and probably never will be >On one hand, I can understand them wanting some "consistency". On the other, it will never be truly straight because how fucking consistently inconsistent this franchise. Sonic's has a consistent characterization since the first game, although that canon wasn't made universal until Sonic Adventure. I agree that the tone (and the writing quality!) of the games has varied wildly, and that Sonic Team is absolutely terrible at informing the fans about even basic lore. It should never have reached the point where they needed to make a TailsTube just to explain how many planets the games take place on >They wanted to pander to the anal retentive fans but that's just a mistake and makes them more annoying Their big issue is that the fanbase is completely fractured along so many lines (Modern/Classic, Archie/IDW/Fleetway, Boom/SatAM/AoStH/X/Prime, Boost/Adventure/Frontiers, etc etc) there's no way to appeal to everyone. They should just let IDW be its own thing like the other comics were and only step in when the writers start having characters OD on drugs. Kids don't give a shit if the comics are exactly like the games, especially considering the movies have their own continuity >>3816 While I liked the artstyle of their original comic, they've seriously improved their style since then. Unfortunately most of the new art is lewd so I was never able to post it on 4/co/. Of course that's not a problem here! (warning: nude Knux)
>>3821 YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! KNUCKLES SEXO ALERT!!! okay but to be semi serious >He almost wiped out all life on Earth with the metal virus. Not only would Sonic be willing to kill him, random civilians in the restaurant would be too You can say the meta reason is because he's the main bad guy and will always get away with literally anything. I know some people like to say IDW made him go too far but Eggman being too unforgiveable to let go happened a while ago in the games with the big disasters he started. >but my guess is they're not allowed to show humans and probably never will be Kind of a shame and will just always be weird. It's Forces tier of pretending they aren't there but they totally are guys believe us!!! >It should never have reached the point where they needed to make a TailsTube just to explain how many planets the games take place on I hate this push recently to explain stuff that should have probably been in the game. It seems kinda lazy.
>They should just let IDW be its own thing I feel ya. The comic would still get it's own criticism of course, but if they didn't have to make it canon. So much drama surrounding wouldn't be that terrible. But no, we can never be that lucky.
>>3814 I'm not sure what exactly Sega wants or allows but Ian being all over the place and them wanting everything canon (and not the cool way but their haphazardly curated definition of it) and similar across all mediums outside of the live action movies means they want some kind of consistency. It's just that the execution isn't good and, ironically enough, not consistent. >>3815 >You almost say this as if this would be a bad thing ;) It's a shame we lost Archie-era Ian. I can only imagine him doing what he did back then for games and shows. Having Sonic thinking about sharing an umbrella with Sally and considering preboot Archie Sonic thought of Amy as an annoyance, making a snide remark about her.
>>3826 >spoiler Contrary to popular belief, he did like and even trusted Amy. This come after that infamous panel saying he didn't but it's just a riff really. Funny how no one ever seems to mention this tho.
>>3829 Oh he trusts her but there are times where Amy's treated as a nuisance by him. Like the wedding issue or when Sally "punished" Sonic by sending him on a mission with Amy to Moebius. And before that, Amy was barely used and Sonic barely gave her a thought as a romantic partner. But that was mostly because she was a kid. Overall Sonic likes her as a friend but her crush on him is either ignored or it bothers him. That even carried over into IDW but was toned down over time.
>>3835 I will say his annoyance works best when he doesn't have another love interest. Archie Sonic had Sally and Fiona aka Sally 2. Bollers left before he could do anything with them but honestly he was on Sonic for a long ass time and barely used Amy.
>>3821 >They should just let IDW be its own thing like the other comics were and only step in when the writers start having characters OD on drugs. Kids don't give a shit if the comics are exactly like the games, especially considering the movies have their own continuity Agreed, I never understood this need for "consistency" across every single part of a franchise.
Take Mario for example. Even before Paper Mario became its own separate thing from the wider franchise, I knew that Bow (the friendly Boo noblewoman who becomes your ally in PM1) wasn't going to show up to help you fight the ghosts in Luigi's Mansion. They were separate games, doing their own separate thing.
Hell, half the fun of different adaptations is seeing different takes on things. Bela Lugosi, Frank Langella, and Louis Jourdan all portrayed Dracula as charming and eloquent. The original Nosferatu and the Christopher Lee movies portrayed him as a feral monster. The Nosferatu remake portrays him as wretched and tragic. It'd be pointless to retell the story if everything was the same.
>>3823 >but if they didn't have to make it canon. To be honest, it's not really canon in any way that matters. It has to conform to the games, but I really doubt that we'll be seeing Whisper or Surge show up in any future Sonic games.
>>3837 >I will say his annoyance works best when he doesn't have another love interest. I mean when he does have a love interest. Or maybe a better way to word that would be that his annoyance doesn't work when he doesn't have a love interest.
>>3821 >YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! KNUCKLES SEXO ALERT!!! Any excuse for me to post best boy! >You can say the meta reason is because he's the main bad guy and will always get away with literally anything. I'm fine with him always getting away, but that should be part of the fun. Eggman's ability to survive the consequences of his actions is a legitimate superpower and we should get to see it in action in the comics. If he's going to stroll into a resarunt unarmed he should at least tell Sonic to put on the TV first, which would show Metal holding a village hostage halfway around the world. We should also get to see how he's able to escape the certain death situations he ends up in, something the movies did well when he was stranded on Mushroom World. I 100% agree about both game and IDW Eggman having enormous body counts. The people he drowned in Station Square in SA1 has to be in the 10s of thousands alone >Kind of a shame and will just always be weird. It's Forces tier of pretending they aren't there but they totally are guys believe us!!! I'm sure all the humans were just out of shot in the final battle! It's so dumb, and costs Sega nothing to let us have >I hate this push recently to explain stuff that should have probably been in the game. It seems kinda lazy. I think a lot of it is them seeing Flynn saying something wrong about the lore and then them hurriedly trying to correct it in a way that won't embarrass him (e.g. the two worlds thing). They either need to explain things better to him or tell him to stop discussing the lore in public. My other issue is that Sega clearly wants to their cake and eat it too, since they want Sonic to have detailed lore for the hardcore fans to obsess over, but are extremely reluctant to nail anything down since that might mean a retcon down the line. As for including it in the games, simple things like having a mix of human and animal people in crowd shots would have solved so many of these issues years ago. Honestly, I'd be happy if they would just put out a lore book that actually explains the lore (the encyclo-speed-ia doesn't count, since it's just a list of games filled with basic factual errors) >I feel ya. The comic would still get it's own criticism of course, but if they didn't have to make it canon. So much drama surrounding wouldn't be that terrible. But no, we can never be that lucky. I get that Sega wants a cohesive brand image or whatever, but classic, Boom and the movies are already in their own continuities. No one would really care if the comics are their own thing so long as you could conceivably slot the games into some flashbacks. It's not like Sega even allows them to do direct in-universe adaptions of games anymore, considering the last one was SA2 >>3826 >It's just that the execution isn't good and, ironically enough, not consistent. That's it exactly. They want all the benefits of a cohesive Sonic but aren't willing to put in the work, hoping fans won't notice so long as Flynn's name's attached to enough projects >>3837 Amy was kind of okay in later Archie, but the Sonic-obsession's always made her somewhat of a one-note character. The only time it's really worked is in Boom, since it was played for laughs. Even then it was a secondary trait after her interests in design, arts & crafts, and being generally neurotic. Of course it helped that Boom Sonic actually liked her back >>3838 >Agreed, I never understood this need for "consistency" across every single part of a franchise. Well said. The variety is what keeps these franchises interesting. I did a Kong movie marathon a while back and it was fascinating to see how the story was tweaked to match the cultural zeitgeist Fay Wray best Kong girl
>>3507 >Amy and Tails too but they’re his biggest ass kissers and have no real thoughts except following his blue butt. Because the last time Sonic and Tails disagreed about something fans threw a shit fit and for this same scenario too, not like it was well executed but it happened. Wildly inconsistent, remember?
>>3917 >Because the last time Sonic and Tails disagreed about something fans threw a shit fit and for this same scenario too It's a shame too, since Tails' character arc is the only interesting and well executed plot point across Colors, Lost World and Forces (even if it was thrown out in Frontiers). Here's how I've seen Tails' main character arc throughout the games: "I may just be the sidekick, but since Sonic won't make it in time I must defeat Eggman and disarm the bomb to save Station Square" (SA1), "Sonic's counting on me to be the hero now that he's gone. I won't let him down!" (SA2), "I'm getting no character development, I'm just Sonic's friend here" (Heroes, StH, 06, Unleashed, Generations), "Even if I mostly handle the tech stuff, I'm Sonic's equal partner and can clap back when Sonic makes gentle ribs" (Colors), "Sonic should have listened to me, I'm smarter than him and he doesn't think things through. Oh wait, Sonic was just playing along to trick Eggman, but he fooled me too and does trust me" (Lost World), "Oh shit, my intellect and gadgets weren't enough and I let Sonic get captured. I'm gonna lose all confidence in myself until Classic Sonic shows up and I can slowly regain it by taking on the role of the older brother. I'm Sonic's equal, and while neither of us is infallible, that's okay" (Forces), "The fans didn't like that I cowered before Chaos 0 (even though I was guilt ridden, traumatized and living in a war zone for 6 months), I will now speedrun my previous character development so everyone will stop complaining" (Frontiers). I'm not mad at all, honest!
>>3917 Reminds me of when I had Antoine get mad at Sonic. Antoine had every right to be mad but there were some people saying that Antoine was at fault for blaming Sonic.
>>3928 >Why is Bunnie gettin at Sonic?! He barely said anything while French Boy is the one who kept ripping on him! >=( >Antoine need to stop blaming Sonic for his mistake. >Antoine better start thinking before speaking or he’s gonna get that sword of his in an uncomfortable spot. >He better hope Sonic don't smack him silly next time!
>>3926 The "Sonic can't lose" Sega mandates have nothing on the fan mandates. The blue rat's word is law! >>3927 Ha! >>3929 It's especially funny considering they made up right after this
https://x.com/Jampolinski/status/1804162887667114348 I can't believe Sega approved of Sonic having a new costume for this arc. Maybe Evan is getting more freedom. >>3930 >>4001 I get some interesting comments and complaints.
>>4007 Can't wait for Eggman to betray Sonic and they laugh and finger gun each other to end the arc. >>4013 Or it might be a costume for a mobile game since Sega has been putting more effort into those.
>>179 It's time for another action-packed and lore-heavy IDW special! It's spring (was spring) and the festivities has brought all the heroes and some villains out to take part in a flower competition! But something's wrong! Attacking robots? Alien invasion? The return of a gay duck? No! Anyway, this is Spring Broken!
>>4245 Pretty much >>4247 >"And I could've gotten away with it too! If it weren't for you meddling dudes!" >>4251 tumble actually innocent for once huh
>>4255 >"we're going to remember this spring fest forever!" I doubt that >>4259 I wish Silver would fuck off forever/10 Pretty nothing like the rest of the one shots they keep releasing. At least background girls were cute, 'specially the possum ones Still, thanks conductor
>>4224 lmao, they've made a flower shrine to Whisper's tears! Also, nice Uncle Chuck cameo >>4226 THEY'RE HERE! >>4227 It's Nite and Don, the only two canonical homosexuals in the entire comic! Too bad they're boring >>4228 I actually think their plants look cool >10/10 villain poses for Rough and Tumble. They should win just for that! >>4236 Cute background twinks >>4239 >Since Knuckles is on Angel Island hell, Vector will be taking his role in this. ;_; >>4243 >CHARMYYYYY! lmao >>4245 Such a bad boy, he'll need to be punished! >>4248 Or Barry! >>4249 >Rough gets locked in a cage and splooshed I've changed my mind, this is a great comic! >>4253 Boo, Tumble should have won! >>4256 >I HATE THAT STUPID THING!!! Rough should've stole that instead >>4259 10/10 for Rough and Tumble making an appearance meh/10 for everything else >>4265 >I doubt that Ha! >>4274 lmao
>>4307 The only good thing about the comic aside from the art was showing that there can be something worse than Evan. This is another special written by someone new and the Halloween special which was just as bad was written by another new name. I wonder why Barnes wasn't brought back for the specials. I don't know what else he has going on but he's definitely a big Sonic fan. No way he would turn down an offer to write more.
>>4310 This one was mega bland. Gun to my head, I'd only be able to describe the plot as Sonic and friends do something with plants and Rough and Tumble were there causing trouble. I can't imagine this is what readers want from this comic. They settled on the winning formula with the first game 33 years ago: hedgehog with attitude goes on action-packed adventures in cool places and defeats a mad scientist. All successful versions of Sonic have built off this, with the only time breaking this basic concept has worked was in Boom, and they still had Sonic fighting Eggman almost every episode
>>4311 It is weird such an idea is foreign to Evan and the other writers. That being said, I think Evan could've done a better job writing this special but for some reason she wasn't able to. I don't know why she couldn't since we just got back from the Fang miniseries. The more I think about it, the more I wonder what is going on with IDW. Archie would've had Evan write and draw multiple issues and paid her with half eaten sandwiches.
>>4310 >This is another special written by someone new It was bugging me so I looked up Josh Trujillo and he's mostly known for writing gay comics (seriously, one of them's called The FDA's Gay Blood Ban). I've not read any of them, but those sorts of comics tend to face way less scrutiny for being boring. He's on Blue Beetle now so he probably won't be contributing again
>>4314 >He's on Blue Beetle Oh! I remember checking that comic out. It's mediocre but Jaime has a cute alien love interest and Ted Kord's sister obviously wants some bro-D.
>>4313 GotF had a lot of SoL stuff but it never shied away from the action. I do get the feeling she'd prefer to write Boom stories though >The more I think about it, the more I wonder what is going on with IDW. Yeah, something is definitely going on there. At the very least morale must be low with the looming threat of cancellation >Archie would've had Evan write and draw multiple issues and paid her with half eaten sandwiches. It's absolutely terrible just how little people in the comic industry get paid. I'm surprised they all don't leave to do lewd art on Patreon >>4316 I've been meaning to check it out since I'm a Blue Beetle fan (both the Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes versions), but while the art looked good the plot didn't seem like much >Ted Kord's sister obviously wants some bro-D lmao
>>4317 How did the same person that gave us evil Nicole give us... Clutch? I know he's got some fans but he's not doing it for me as a villain. Ebony Hare's a better crime boss than he is. >lmao I mean...
>>4306 This chick will praise anything Sonic as long as she thinks he's adorable in something >>4310 >>4311 My theory is that they've relelgated these to just being SOL stuff. While the main comic is more actiony.
>>4318 >How did the same person that gave us evil Nicole give us... Clutch? I know he's got some fans but he's not doing it for me as a villain. Ebony Hare's a better crime boss than he is. Rough and Tumble are more intimidating crime bosses than he is. I don't even see the point of him since his whole backstory of battling the previous generation of heroes can never be explored >I mean... And they say Sonic comics are weird! >>4322 >This chick will praise anything Sonic as long as she thinks he's adorable in something I think you've cracked the code for who actually likes these comics. It's just twitter people who want to see Sonic make cute faces. The plot literally doesn't matter to them >My theory is that they've relelgated these to just being SOL stuff. While the main comic is more actiony. Now all they need to do is add some action to the main comics, hew hew!
>>5013 While these evil security guards coming out to stop Sonic from racing in his disguise, our real heroes sneak aboard and go snooping around as usual.
>>5026 Why point with your own hand when you can have a robot hand do it for you? >>5025 Designing it was probably Evan's favorite part of doing this story.