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The turning around the movies got has got to be one of the greatest comebacks of all time. The new design really saved them.

>>13156
>those pecs
>those looks
>that height difference
Oh my! Imagine if they went with these shamelessly anthro designs for Boom
>>13157
It really is nice when artists have some fun with Knuckles' hair. Boom at least tried to make Sonic's hair look more like messy quills, but did nothing with Knuckles' (or anyone else's) head tentacles
>>13158
It really did, and would've struck a serious blow to the entire franchise if they hadn't changed it
>>13159
The gremlin is starting to suspect Gay Duck's messed with her boyfriend's head
>I wonder if there was a Tails model for the original.
There's an Ugly Sonic model they used when shooting most (all?) of the first movie, but because Tails was a cameo at the end that didn't interact with anyone, they never got around to making one for him. I'm guessing they didn't do a CGI Ugly Tails either
>>13160
A Starline possessed Surge or Kit would've been so cool

>>13161
It still astounds me that execs they thought that design will look good to anyone, let alone Sonic fans, who are known for being the most pernickity fandoms around. If fans constantly complain about the size, curve, and color of his quils to the color of his eyes, was anyone surprised that Sonic fans in particular would hate this?

>>13162
Between out of touch Paramount execs almost tanking the movie, out of touch SoJ execs doing their best to alienate their western fans, and out of touch (with reality) Archie execs completely fumbling the comics, it really makes you wonder why they draw much higher salaries than the people that actually work on the franchise to make it good

>>13158
despite the seethe from people clinging to Sonic is bueno/was never good crowd, he's essentially in some of the best PR and positioning currently he's had even more then Colours/Generations doing well or Mania even.

>>13163
Don't forget about DiC selling stills of SaTaM which got the show canceled.

>>13164
And that’s good! The series is finally taking itself seriously again, finally being cool unrepentantly again, and finally somewhat consistent again! And knowing (from experience) how some ”fans” feel about the movies, frankly, we should be giving the movies, for all their flaws, their flowers for kicking off the current renaissance period for Sonic.

>>13163
Sega and Sega related stuff seems to just get hit with stupid executives and dumbshit. How the fuck the same company be so cutting edge and so incompetent at the same time? Did Yu Suzuki have all the brains? At least Capcom's excuse is that they need wranglers at every level.

>>13166
yeah it does bring me bliss to see Sonic winning the best he can at the moment, I'm honestly excited for how the films go forward now. Like I'd love for them to do Black Doom and the Black Arms at this point with how different yet still really fun their interpretation of Gerald Robotnik was.

>>13160
My idea for Surge & Kit woild be go look & find information about their past lives. And then show them growing with some development and show them being capable apart & devastating when together. Surge slows up going on impluse but still kind of a hot head and Kit becomes somewhat analytical.

>>13169
Honestly I think for both of them to get better, they need to get other people in their lives besides each other and Sonic.
Get them separated, and then put them in a situation where they need to rely on other people or do something slightly outside of their comfort zone, otherwise Surge is too prone to throw a baby rage fit.
But maybe that wouldn't be best for Kit since when he was with Sonic and Belle he just kind of latched onto them in Surge's stead.

>>13176
>fanart Whisper has a cute and wry sense of humor
>canon Whisper is an annoying crybaby
Wow, the fans managed to even fix Whisper. Is there even one concept that they don't do better than SEGA?

>>13177
Amy isn't funny but she's not that unfunny, also I have no ideas for VAs since I don't follow celebrities.

https://x.com/Missingno123311/status/1878640186453881221

Does anyone know how to download gifs from twitter posts ?

>>13179
Same, but I would hope we get Cindy Robinson voicing her, closer to how she sounds in boom than frontiers (but that’s me being too optimistic)

>>13185
The guy who made this is a douchebag.

>>13165
lmao, really? I always figured it was Power Rangers curb stomping them in the ratings
>>13167
That's the thing with large companies, they're really a collection of factions that can sometimes get away with doing something good
>>13169
There's so much potential for those two. While I think it was dumb that they basically looked at the camera and said "we're not going to explore our backstories," it'd be cool if their backstories came looking for them. I like to think their current personalities are very similar to their originals, so maybe they signed up with Gay Duck to get away from their enemies
>>13170
They definitely need to be hanging out with other people to flesh out their characters. One thing Archie always did well was sticking a couple of characters together and seeing how they interact
>>13174
I don't know the context, but that seems incredibly cursed
>>13175
Oh man, the idea that Elise can't cry because it would let Iblis out, but if she got angry it allows her to full use its powers would be so cool. She'd be like a pyrokenetic Hulk!
>>13178
I will say one thing Sega does better than the fans is actually shipping games. A lot of fangame projects end up canceled since they want things really polished before they release it, but it just causes them to lose momentum and give it up. Sega will happily release half-broken Sonic games, and even has the audacity to charge you for them!
>>13182
She really is great. Went from the worst Amy voice in the Boom pilot to the best Amy voice by the end
>>13186
I don't know them, but they are being overly picky here. Evan clearly just used the models to do the posing, and did change the proportions to get things looking more fluid. Their comic is pretty funny, even if it's more than a little exaggerated. IDW Sonic's quills are too puffy and rounded though, and it makes him look too much like a cute stuffed animal
They also think the Unleashed model is based on a a lazy subdivision of the low poly Heroes in-game model. Unleashed's model is fucking fantastic and I will not hear otherwise!

>>13185
Unrealistic, he only punishes his enemies if they're weak, enfeebled, mentally unstable, or in need of help.
Only mentally and physically well enemies like Eggman get off without a beating.

>>13188
More like IDWnik only punishes his enemies if there's no witnesses that aren't already in his pocket. Eggman's smart enough to always have innocent townsfolk around or to be broadcasting live around the world

That Scourage/Surge thread isn't bad so far I must say

>>13186
Agreed. A Typical JP purist, which is a shame, because I like his art but everything else about him fucking sucks. I followed him at one point because of his art, unfollowed because of everything else

The Eggmen Fight Be Like:

>>13186
>>13191
I'll give him credit for actually criticizing IDW instead of mindlessly dickriding it like everyone else on Twitter.

Ken Penders in a Nutshell

>>13193
But he’d rather dickride the Japanese side of a franchise that is known to have more western influences than eastern influences, more western fans than eastern fans, and more western prevalence than eastern prevalence to the point that some of the most beloved parts of the series are WESTERN NOT EASTERN and that the Japanese that he and his ilk put on a fucking pedestal are aware or and even like the western stuff even IDW than sure, at least he’s not a IDW dickrider

>>13196
But that doesn’t make him or his ilk any less of dickriders

>>13190
For those that want to read it:
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/147118010
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/147118010/
>>13193
Twitter seems to like the most boring parts of IDW
>>13196
I think Sonic's always been most successful when it draws from both sides. The OVA is obviously an anime, but the land of the Sky is clearly a stand in for a post-apocalyptic yet utopian America, and the land of Darkness is explicitly a ruined New York city. SA2 is easily one of the best games and it takes place in fantasy San Fransisco.
What's really frustrating is that Sonic Team's always been interested in America and western themes in general, even moving to America multiple times! I really think it's just the SoJ execs that hate the baka gajin westerners

>>13198
I know that, but knowing that some, but not all JP purists are so hardline against anything besides the games that even the Japanese made stuff like the OVA and X are hated by them. Trust me, I was (unfortunately) on Randomfox and DoctorCrusher’s tumblrs, they HATED X for the most part and knowing that just gives makes think hate the OVA all the same , which is strange to me because most other purists treat X and OVA like the fucking holy grail.

>>13199
That's absolutely hilarious, Sonic Team were heavily involved with X, and Maekawa's Sonic lore team partner in crime Kiyoko Yoshimura wrote a bunch of episodes (along with 06 and Unleashed). If you ignore Chris Thorndyke's involvement, the SA2 adaption gives a bunch of background details that didn't make it into the game. It's still a pretty boring show though, and there's a lot of scenes where Sonic's nothing like his game counterpart

As for the OVA, even if you ignore the fact that it's the closest we'll ever get to seeing the classic games in animated form, Sonic Team's fingerprints are all over it. Tails' workshop in SA1, down to the way the Tornado launches with the plants moving out of the way are straight out of the OVA.

One of the worst parts of this fandom is just how factional it is. I get that some aspects of the franchise are kinda out there, but it's very easy to just stick to the parts you enjoy. It's been 8 years since Archie was canceled and 31 since SatAM, and yet we still have unhinged schizos screaming about the squirrel-chipmunk lady that lives rent free in their head

>randomfox
Oh man, I actually miss reading his tumblr. Dude would have these well articulated posts on game Sonic's character and the most obscure parts of the lore that I'd usually agree with, only to sandwich them between the most dogshit takes on Archie being the worst thing ever and Flynn being some mustache twirling villain out to kill the franchise. I try not to kinkshame but I did not like the amount of voreposts I had to scroll past ;_;

>>13187
https://chadchan3d.com/toc/toc-special-anniversary-dinner/

>>13200
Same, this fandom is so fractured with so many different types of fans who at times are frankly, stubborn. That’s really my problem with JP purists. They’re so hardline on this “True Sonic” shit that they can’t understand that this series was adapted in so many different ways that expecting people to have view of the series is fucking stupid. But they’re so stubborn that they can’t accept anything besides their views to the point they have to act like complete twatbaskets, which only makes people LESS willing to listen to you not more.

>>13202
JP purists are like breadtubers in the way that even if you agree with them on something, they find a way to make you stop agreeing with them

>>13200
As for that possible jab at richmunk and his ilk, I’ve been thinking about the man, especially in relation to this video: The Strange Tale of Richard Kuta: A Sonic Filmmaker & Internet Fool
I haven’t watched it, but seeing the comments be very sympathetic towards him and knowing how you and many others feel about him I want to ask, has rich truly changed? Also this came from someone I’m in a discord server with saying that rich responded to him on twitter, saying that the green eyes video was a nostalgia critic parody that nobody caught on to. He also said that rich confirmed this in an interview, which may be this: Interview with Richmunk aka AKnotHoleResident
Frankly, what’s your thoughts?

https://x.com/quaverdraws/status/1879573386525122659

>IDW characters being reincarnations of Archie ones.
Never thoughr of that take for a crossover.

>>13205
That's the first thing I think of, although I'd like a mix of characters being ported in/rebooted like Sally reacting to a Surge and Sonic/and or Amy hanging out would be hilarious since she would be a cross gendered Scourge reincarnation.

>>13199
oh god, DoctorCrusher is such an insufferable miserable fuck, like I used to check them occasionally but they never shut up about what parts of Sonic they don't like or how awful this n this is and even in their positive posts have to include a derisive jab that it's so tiresome, not looked at their tumblr since the ride ended.

>>13200
it's funny to me how people can't really be normal in their dislike of Archie Sonic on the internet from what I've seen, not even just a it's not for me personally, they have to go into unhinged rants, misread the comic as much as deeply possible and it's just odd to me, like I don't even mind if people don't like it but can they just be normal about it

>>13201
Oh shit, now I remember it! I was going to censor that for an ~after dark~ storytime it but it was just too cursed ;_;
>>13202
Yeah, it's mega dumb considering the only Sonic that matters is the one that exists in your own head. That said, I do take exception whenever people say that IDW or Prime is in the same continuity as the games. Sonic's characterization is way off in those and I'm not going to pretend the Sonic in SatBK is the special needs Sonic from Prime nor the psychopathic redeemnic from IDW
>>13204
I've not watched it yet, but as the resident Richmunkologist who's seen him tear through so many Sonic communities first hand, definitely not. Him having a big revelation that he's misbehaved in the past but has worked on himself and is ready to enter a new Sonic community is just part of his grifter cycle. He enters a new community, acts abrasive, stirs up drama and scams whoever gives him a chance until he's kicked out, only to disappear for a while and enter a new community where he says whatever drama was taken out of context, but that he's worked on himself and is a changed man. He's been repeating this cycle since the 90s and I just don't see him changing a behavior pattern he's stuck to for over 30 years.

>green eyes
It's since been deleted, but I witnessed his meltdown on Sonic Retro firsthand. Dude was becoming increasingly unhinged and aggressive towards the other posters, even zooming into the screenshots of Sonic 4 and reading off the RGB values to prove his eyes were green. The admins stepped in, banned him and deleted all his posts so I unfortunately don't have any proof of this. The guy constantly rewrites his own past to make himself look more sympathetic, and I don't think it's just to sucker whatever new community he attaches himself onto. My guess is he actually believes these rewrites to escape his self-loathing and fuel his own persecution complex.

This behavior actually all ties back into his adult baby diaper lover (ABDL, but people should see the full words since the acronym minimizes the gross parts) fetish. It's very telling that he partakes in a fetish where you're supposed to get off on humiliation and genuinely enjoy throwing tantrums, but what really clinches it for me is that he wants people to unconditionally love him and cater to his every need.

This is the part where most people would accuse him of being a pedo, and I can see why given he used to walk around children's playgrounds wearing a highly sexualized Sally Acorn costume and would deliberately leave the curtains open in his apartment when he was wearing diapers in his giant baby crib. Kids did see him in diapers, and I think that's intentional, but one could argue it's because he gets off on humiliation. While he might not be a literal pedo, what he's doing is wrong. The number one rule in the kink community is that everything must be safe, sane and consensual. Consent isn't just for the direct participants, if you allow something to be seen by the public, you're involving them in something they did not consent to. He's certainly a predator in that he targets well meaning Sonic fans and scams them into producing content for him, but as far as I know no one's accused him of being a sexual predator.

TLDR: He's a terrible person that been scamming Sonic fans for 30+ years and will never change

>>13213
Yeah Sonic Prime really lost me the more and more it went on, like I was willing to enjoy it but man it just got so repetitive and that third season killed all my patience and had me actively fuming with how boring and repetitive it got. Like I've watched South Korean shows, which are really great such as Kingdom, Squid Game obviously, All of us are dead and Sweet Home which have with episodes in hour length and they didn't feel as long lol.

Also richmunk just sounds gross, ew.

>>13213
Last thing I heard about that weirdo is that he was trying and failing to Hijack Sonic villains due to the project having Sally/Nicole in it.
Like he just can't create his own fan content where she's his lawfully wedded wife and he impregnates her. It would be more respectable at least than constantly sperging at other people.

>>13213
Started feeling sick reading this. He's so gross.

>>13190
Yeah, it was apparently civil and nice. None of the usual shitters and people generally kept topic and talked about IDW and Surge/Scourge despite the obvious bait OP.

>>13218
Aye was in it a fair bit and actually had fun talking Sonic on 4chan, that was the single best thread Sonicwise in ages. Shame didn't get chance to talk Zeti fleshing out more since brought up idea of new villain one focused on energy manipulation instead of technomancy and ideas on how the Zeti culture could be. Got my Silver and Lanolin jabs in and even got to talk a bit Mordred to one anon.

>>13219
>https://x.com/z_t00n_/status/1879653098425352463
I don't understand the question bu the animation is cute, although I could never imagine Sonic as a teacher. Sure he's good with kids but I've always thought he would struggle academically.

>>13222
They stared into each other's eyes throughout that entire fall. This can only mean they want to bang.

>>13213
>ABDL
Maybe it's me, but it seems like a lot of motherfuckers who have that fetish just love to broadcast it to everyone, just like a lot of furries do. Exhibitionists are the fucking worst, they oughta be charged with sexual misconduct for that shit.

>>13218
>>13220
>>13190
As much of a Ryonafag as he is, the SurgeAbuseAnon is a pretty chill dude. I'd take a dozen affable perverts like him and Thirstposter over all the annoying schizos like Boco and Tailscel anyday.

>>13225
What makes Boco so bad? he just seems like a bit of a mook and repetitive from when I've seen him.

>>13226
Boco hates Archie, especially Sally, and hates Amy and will let you know as often as possible. He's the kind of person that will say anything to get replies and half of his posts during the Archie Ride was about how much he hates Sally and Amy and how it's good Archie Sonic is cancelled. The other half of his posts is about how Roll is his daughter.

>>13226
He can't shut up about how much he hates Archie, and especially Princess Sally. He also much prefers a more lighthearted and comedic Sonic like Sonic Boom or AOSTH, to the point that he tends to crap on things people like, such as SA2 or Shadow in general. Despite that, he loves IDW even though it's got some seriously dark stuff like the Zombot Arc.

Mainly though, his posts just have no substance to them. Somebody was posting something interesting and happened to call the setting "Mobius," so Boco just has to be a wise-ass and post "Mobius, what's that?" even though it's perfectly clear what the person is talking about. It's not as though calling it "Mobius" will suddenly make Archie canon to the games, so it came off as Boco being disruptive just for attention.

He's not as bad as Tailscel or IDWschizo, but he still sucks. He seems okay at first because he's sedate and doesn't misspell every other word, but you eventually realize he has nothing at all interesting or worthwhile to say. There's a reason that "Shut the fuck up, Boco" became a thing.

>>13228
>>13227
Ahhh I was aware of that stuff but honestly he seems just so impotent and just more of a gnat then a thread ruining pest like the obvious suspect, admittedly it's probably cause aside from The Ride and a few threads I barely see the palooka.

>>13229
He's not nearly as bad as some of the others, but given that the Sonic threads have had about six different schizos at one point or another, he gets on your nerves real quickly.

>>13214
They had a real chance to do something with a dark and edgy Tails, and they just blew it ;_; At least we got sexy pirate Knuckles out of it
>>13215
That sounds about right, I did see some stirrings with him and that. I hope they kick him to the
>Like he just can't create his own fan content where she's his lawfully wedded wife and he impregnates her.
Oh it's so much worse than that. Super gross speculation here: He's clearly infatuated with/obsessed with Sally, but I think he's more aroused by the idea of becoming Sally, than just being aroused by her
>>13216
Yeah, he's not quite cwc-tier, but he's not far behind
>>13219
While I'm hot for teacher, I prefer Ponic.. He's just so cute!
>>13222
Interesting take on Hydro City Zone. Fun fact: the beta version has a whole heap of plants in the background
>sploosh!
I couldn't have said it better myself!
>>13223
😍
>>13224
Fact check: True!
>>13225
Yeah, they 100% get off on being observed by the public. It's also why they buy special ABDL diapers, regular adult diapers don't make crinkling sounds. I think involving random strangers in your fetish is just disgusting, especially when there's nude beaches and conventions where you can let it all out
>I'd take a dozen affable perverts like him and Thirstposter over all the annoying schizos like Boco and Tailscel anyday.
Awww, thanks!
>>13226
Fun fact: namefagging used to be much more common and accepted back when 4chan was new, and it's thanks to Boco (and others like him) that it's got such a bad rep. The dude is so insufferable, it actually shaped imageboard culture

>>13230
The only time Boco isn't an ass is Darkstalkers threads. Then again, Fighting game threads filters out assholes.
>>13227
>Roll is his daughter
I remember a Mega Man /co/ thread that was quickly infested by straight up pedos. Thought I was on /v/ for a second.

>>13231
OK, I was going to put another about post richmunk but it fell apart after looking at dates (The man made a complete ass of himself AFTER the video was uploaded with the Sonic Villains controversy) but I really think of why I even brought him up, it was because of the person in the discord server. I’ll refer to him as TC and let’s just say he has some baggage on him from the Klonoa community and he really wants to join the Sonic community without that baggage and rich was the first person to reach out to him. In fact, I’ll just transcribe the conversation we had:
TC: OH RADICAL RICHARD KUTA POKED ME ON TWITTER
i actually like his takes on sonic
he was also going to pitch a sonic movie based on SatAM
ME: >Liking Richmunk’s takes on anything Sonic related
*Concern* image
TC: absomewtly
he knew sonic better than sega
=p
https://x.com/Kuta81Ra/status/1878286441765384388 but also he posted lost media recently
TC: although im actually unware if he did anthing vile
so def let me know
ME: I don’t know
I wouldn’t want to get my takes on Sonic
From a guy that most Sonic fans who know his name
Steer clear from
TC: what did he do?
ME: I don’t know, I just know of his antics from word of mouth
From what I heard he’s an insufferable classic purist who basically got himself kicked out of older Sonic communities due to his antics
TC: ahhh
so a sonic fan
ME: He’s also into diapers and is obsessed with sally acorn
TC: ah a sonic fan
i respect the grind
honestly i dont mind as long as he hasnt done anything illegal
met many klonoa, sonic, furry, brony, train people out there that are odd but nice people
more power to em since he has to deal with his past like many of us have to unfortunatly
- End of Log -

>>13233
Also I don’t want to forget about about this when I asked someone else on the surver why they were on richmunk’s twitter:
TC: Oh he actually replied to me pointing out that his green eyes reaction was a nostalgia critic parody and everyone overlooked it
He was interviewed back then and explained what happened in the video and his reaction to the virality
And I like sonic old heads

And frankly all this goes down to my conscience being split between “Tell TC that richmunk is bad news and he needs to disassociate with him sooner rather than later” and “let it be, you shouldn’t sully TC ‘s chances of starting over in the Sonic community with a fresh slate” I know all this at the end of day is all internet shit with people I don’t completely know and I shouldn’t let this get to me but it is because in my heart of hearts, I was swayed a bit by the video I linked yesterday, I want to believe that rich has changed maybe without the occasional fuck-up, but that he’s truly trying to change and that we should leave him alone but knowing how most people here loathe the man and rightfully so, it’s just… ugh.

>>13238
He got a restraining order?! Why does he expect to be accepted when this is how he acts.

>>13239
It's more like Sega are telling him to stop contacting them or they'll bring out the lawyers. Dude's got a whole ED page on his nonsense: https://edramatica.com/Sonmanic
As for why he expects to be accepted, he's just mega entitled

>>13240
Adult man acting like a kid with a long list of trouble. That is embarrassing but he probably likes that for his kink.

>>13238
First, TC is in his 30’s. second, I was on richmunk’s Kiwi Farms page and that has been dead for nearly a year and the last big controversy rich was his bitching about salicole in Sonic Villains a in late 2023/early 2024 but since then, he hasn’t been in any controversy (to my knowledge). But now I caught up in wanting to equal parts warn TC about him and leave it alone. And that video I linked, seeing the comments be so supportive of the man and saying that we should let man’s past go makes my naturally more sympathetic nature want the best for him. And I haven’t watched the video! And maybe never will! I want TC to be happy, but I worry that him associating with rich will bite him in the ass if rich fucks up big time again and I’ll feel guilty for not warning him enough. I shouldn’t be worrying about this! I’m starting my second semester in college next week, I should be worried about that! This is all on the internet and I’m letting it get to me! What should I do? Tell me! So I ease my conscience.

>>13241
Yeah, I don't usually like to gossip about the more "colorful" members of the fandom, but I don't like to see people being taken advantage of
>>13243
I'd honestly just tell him the guy's a creep and has been a blight on the fandom since the 90s. Might be worth sending him links to the KF and ED pages. Ultimately it's up to him to make the decision, but at least you've helped him make an informed one
>First, TC is in his 30’s
That's good to hear, he usually latches onto younger people since they tend to be new to the fandom
>I’m starting my second semester in college next week
Congrats!
>>13244
lmao, that's a new one to me! I probably wouldn't mention your friend's more personal details on a public site

>>13245
For the college comment, thanks!
As for TC, he’s no friend, just somebody in a discord server I’m in. Well, two. But that’s what’s bothering me the most, I have to see him everytime I’m on either server and he’s friends with the guys who run both servers. Frankly, I want to stay in his good graces cuz he’s been through enough in the Klonoa fandom, I want him to join the Sonic community without those issues, but I don’t want him to get associated with the wrong people, Y’know? That’s why I worry about him associating himself with richmunk. He could be setting himself up for failure. Frankly, I feel kind of bad for not being this up to him myself and instead talking about it with you.

>>13246
No worries! At least you've got a good idea of how to start the conversation with him now

I still think a geneticist is a good idea for a new Sonic villain since mentioned it in Lanolin lynch thread number 6

>>13249
Dr. Narasu from Sonic X was a geneticist. He made those clones and turned Vector into a giant.

>>13250
To be honest I completely forgot that bozo existed, plus thinking bigger scale like mutating animals into monsters, cloning and trying follow up Gerald in making a new lifeform

>>13251
He was the closest to a villain I could think of that met your description. It is a good idea but they don't want Gerald to be exceeded.

>>13253
To be fair I agree on that, that's why my main idea was mutation or warped cloned creatures while aiming to even make a unique lifeform as an end goal since that was Gerald's grand achievement and even then he needed Black Arms DNA. Its less exceeding and more even trying to be able to even match that capability, drawing more from the Biolizard as a baseline then Shadow but hoping to still condense into a mobian form.

>>13252
I'm sorta confused on what they are since I just assume from the text they are people he kidnapped/hypnoed and just filled with stuff like a safer Zombot strain or other cybernetic enhancements to modify them to even be able to barely tussle with Sonic and others

>>13256
At first they were something he was making from scratch. That's why he got Tails' DNA and kidnapped Belle. He was straight up making his own Sonic and Tails. But Ian had to change things so instead Starline kidnaps Surge and Kit and installs an exoskeleton and injects the metal virus to give them powers then hypnotized them into doing his bidding.

>>13252
>Sega said an OC can't be better than Eggman at something
Wow. Wah to kneecap a,concept.

>>13257
What they ended up doing I think was better then what they had initially planned

>>13249
Oh man, I've been rewatching Gargoyles and Anton Sevarius (voiced with the ultra sexy Tim Curry) would fit right in! He's a hammy mad scientist that just loves turning people into furries and generally making genetic abominations
https://www.gargwiki.net/Anton_Sevarius
>>13255
Gerald's clearly the greatest scientific mind in the setting (well maybe not IDW since they can't show humans, hew hew), but a running thread in the series is that all of GUNs robots/mechs and all of Eggman's Badniks/inventions/etc are at least based on Gerald's tech. In a sense, a lot of what Eggman's been trying to do has been to succeed where Gerald failed. Taking over the world and defeating GUN would make him a better strategist, and controlling ancient horrors (Chaos, Solaris, Dark Gaia, etc) would make him a better archeologist and scientist

I don't really see the problem with someone else continuing Gerald's genetics research though. It's been 50 years so it's probably a lot easier to do now. Also, I'm pretty sure Infinite was going to be genetically modified/lab grown at some point

>>13257
>Tails' DNA
Yeah, Flynn got shafted (again) mid story and changed DNA to "bio data". Even he has no idea what that means! I guess you could stretch it to meaning something like Metal Sonic's copy ability in Heroes
>>13260
I do like what we ended up with, and if anything leaves the door open for new characters to be lab grown genetic abominations!

>>13264
You just know Thrash says digga with a hard r

>>13263
Suppose I'm mainly trying to think on a compromise mindset knowing how odd SEGA can be in regards to these things, also honestly if did make a geneticist scientist would want it to be a sexy lady tbh wether human or mobian. I do think it'd be an interesting frustration for a character to have 50 years of advancement yet not able to match Shadow as a creation and that driving someone obsessive to make
a supreme lifeform that is Black Arm DNA free and doesn't need cybernetics or life support as a crutch.

I don't think there's anytime Tim Curry hasn't been a 10/10 where ever he showed up and also to be honest I don't think you'd get anything that useful from Tails DNA apart from a causes humans to obsessively foxate aura

Today's storytime is going to be an hour later.

>>13265
>>13264
>You know, what are Echindas good for? All they do is fuckcup and everyone else has to clean up the mess. Whole lot of the drongos should be booted to somewhere far, like Little Planet.
>Sir, this is a Meh Burger

>>13238
That mail pic, holy shit.

You will feel old if you watch this
Sonic the Hedgehog - Numa Numa Dance

>>13348
Cute! Here's one of my favorites:
An Itch Sonic Can't Scratch

>>13266
As funny as this is, surprised it's not Quickman being a snarkry dick.

>>13350
I do agree on hoping Tori isn't a villain since I could see her being an interesting new ally and that paving the way for her field of research instead leading to whatever new villain or evil for that game

That upgrade henchman idea does sound good, like a science version of when Kamek buffs a boss or enemy in the Mario Series except it's a sexy scientist gal jumping in to give her goons vaccinations to help in exterminations. Also yeah it's just a fun frustration and motive when you have a smart bad guy being unable to keep up with the settings arms race without underhanded means due to just how far ahead one person is working on like Obadiah Stane or Justin Hammer in Armored Adventures needing to leech of Tony's work for their projects or even in the Sonic series with Eggman's tech being leeched on by others to get ahead.

>>13202
The purists are so fucking nuts that I dont even bother going into most Sonic threads nowadays that arent from here. All of the ones who go "Movie Sonic is bad because he's not Game Sonic!!!" piss me off especially.

>>13360
I see this as one will have Sally that is straight, and the other that isn’t.

>>13358
>Despite only making 0.90 percent of the population, Echidna's are responsible for 60% of the worlds problems

>>13365
what even has DrCrusher done recently? I assume they've just been doing the same annoying winging they've always done for the past 5 years

>>13266
Mega Ran x Mister Wilson "Unite" (animated video)

>>13380
Clash of Two Worlds, the TMNT 2012 and Sonic Boom crossover, is currently updating. Waiting for that chapter to finish. Next page coming out on Monday.
Sonic Frenzy just started updating again.
Shock and Awe aka Sonic Begins had new pages not that long ago.
Amy's Family is updating again.
Sonic Ball Z is updating but I am not going to translate all those pages, we're so far back. The good news is that the artist has translations in the comments for each page.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the one based on the cartoon, is updating although the last page came out on December 28.
The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is updating.
Infested is updating but the thing with the elephant is not interesting to me.
And then there's mine! There's probably others.

>>13379
That's funny, I would say it would be a new experience to Shadow. But being faced with your past failures in a liminal landscape happened in Sonadow Generations, honestly there's some fanfic potential to Shadow getting stuck in Silent Hill during/instead of the events of Sonadow Generations due to Black Doom teaming up with that evil god that lives in Silent Hill.

>>13356
Yeah, I like the idea that they've got someone they can go to for answers about all the ancient mystical nonsense they have to deal with. Also, Knuckles is canonically an expert on ancient languages so they'd probably be friends

Exactly! I'm thinking she'd be like Archie Breezie in that she's got a legit persona as the head of some biotech company. Her and her henchmen would generally be friendly and be very willing to cooperate with the heroes, especially if there's a world-ending threat. They're genuinely in the business of saving lives, even if they do some shady things on the side

She wouldn't be outright evil and wanting to take over the world, but someone that will have her henchmen break into research facilities/ancient tombs/etc to steal things that would help with her research into her own version of the ultimate lifeform

The big difference here is that she doesn't want to create a new ultimate lifeform from scratch, but to become an ultimate lifeform so she can live forever. The twist (that wouldn't be revealed for a while) is that she's like Merlina and plans on forcing everyone to become immortal, even if they don't want that, especially if there are side effects

>>13359
Nice!
>>13360
Glad to see the postboot getting some love
>that cover on the left
Oh boy, more Sonknux!
>>13362
I still think they should've done a fully animated movie that was just based on the games. The opening cutscene from Unleashed but expanded into an entire movie would've been perfect. The movieverse is great though, and I think it's fine if different continuities have different takes on Sonic. It's 100% a missed opportunity that they didn't give Movienic the Fleetway personality though, imagine the snark!
>>13364
Yeah, that's probably what they're going for. Pretty much every postboot or IDW crossover ships Sally with Nicole. Personally, I see her (and 95% of all Mobians) as bi, but ultimately settling down with Sonic. I figure Mobian society is more like ancient Human societies (and to a lesser extent modern Japan), where it's common enough to be unremarkable that younger people have same-sex relations but generally settle down and have kids. People who exclusively pursue same-sex relations well into adulthood would be considered slightly eccentric, but not odd.
>>13365
I recognize RandomFox and DrCrusher, but who's the third one?
>>13366
And 100% of the microwave-induced chaos apotheosis incidents!
>>13371
He's so cute!
>>13379
lmao, that works surprisingly well!
>>13380
There's been a lot of updates, but I've been extremely lazy. I'll update them in a few hours

>>13385
actual wine instead of mineral water or chao soda

>>13384
you could easily give her a tragic backstory of losing a lover to death and that traumatising her to try to attain immortality or genetically resurrect him as the supreme lifeform, could even give her an interesting moment where she instead gives the strain that evolves someone into a supreme lifeform to one of her flunkies in an act of charity that could backfire depending on whether the flunkie was a scumbag or just the strain fucks the guy's mind up.
I do like the idea of her having a legit bio company since that gives me some nice Resident Evil vibes, though was initially thinking her as more of a scalie Excella type then a more sympathetic sort.

Agreed super hard on the Sonic Unleashed intro but movie length would be fucking god tier, those Sonic cutscenes outside the engine from Shadow to Unleashed were my lifeblood.

>>13384
The third one is Vertekins, another Japanese Sonic purists who seems to be less of an asshole than Crusher or RandomFox, but being less of an asshole still doesn’t make you NOT an asshole

>>13388
It's funny, I've liked some of Greenvertekins game info or little notes on the characterisation in them but as soon as anything to do with the comics, Sonally or whatever from them and it's just eyes rolling to my skull

>>13389
Exactly. The second these purists talk anything besides the games or characterization, their takes make your teeth being smashed in with a metal bat sound more enjoyable

Oh yeah, have any of you seen this yet?: No one understands Amy Rose (especially not Ian Flynn)

>>13391
>amy centric
I will now not watch your video.

>>13392
>I will now not watch your video.
Seconded lmao

>>13389
>>13390
>Greenvertekins
It's funny since he claims to be a Sally fan and says there isn't some sort of sonic pecking order, then he calls SaTAM and IDW
>“Princess Sally and the Freedom Fighters: Starring SEGA’s Sonic the Hedgehog!”
Although he seems to like pre-boot archie, probably because it doesn't have Sonally and it's so close to the games.
His Surge takes are also just strange, saying she leeches off of Sonic and that they disrespected Metal Sonic to make Surge look better. But then going back to calling her weak the next post.
As if Metal Sonic doesn't lose to everybody. That's 99% of what he does in the games outside of heroes, and Surge is so consistently weaker then he characters around her I find it hard to say they're making anyone job to her or trying to pump her up.
I get his complaints about IDW not being like the games since it's supposed to be, and I don't like Evan's Silver either, I agree they made Shadow an overly mean dumb jobber for no reason. But complaining about IDW being off model and the appearance Chaos Drives, seems silly. Also he said that Starline is a Snively clone when they aren't much alike.
Not to mention his anti-corporate IDW rant, which his hilarious coming from mister "I own all the IDW comics."

>>13394
His? Vertekins is a woman

>>13395
Women don't use the internet silly.

the pastebin is dead

>>13405
https://pastejustit.com/ym8ziu3v87
They changed domains but thankfully everything is still there. I'll update it next thread. Thanks for letting me know!

Sonic 3 - Live and Learn (Calculator Cover) 수퍼소닉3 계산기 커버

>>13212
Yeah, most recently for me there was this video I mostly agreed with from Dimitri Monroe about Amy's characterization in the games and some warranted jabs against IDW!Silver and Sonic.
But he also brought up Archie in vague shadowed terms as if it was some forbidden topic, just because the Sonic in Archie has different characterization.
It's just a different cannon, a completely different continuity. Just like there are different transformers of TMNT cannons with different takes on the characters.

>>13408
The Sword of Acorns wanted Sally, didn't it?

>>13412
It was part of the Source of All and it always wanted to bond with Sally. Which is interesting because it sounds like it never did so for anyone else. That's what Bollers pushed while Penders had it bond with every Acorn.

>>13413
It kinda makes sense on Bollers part.
>Max is broken
>Elias didn’t want to go into the piss pool
>Sally did and isn't damaged like Mac

>>13415
This goes super hard