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No.91693
Ms. and Mr. /co/ Off-Season Discussion Thread #6Anonymous
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"NSA WILL BE PUNISHED FOR HER CRIMES" edition
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anne on her way to wreck next ms. /co/ deadass
No.91695
Anonymous
>>91693
This is the thread
No.91696
Anonymous
THIS, is the thread.
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In honor of that deluded anon, here's some Silver Spam.
No.91698
Anonymous
>>91693
JJJ... my HERO, thank you.
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Any comic picks you faggots are rooting for?
No.91702
Anonymous
For real though I never really got the big deal with the plunderers or Livesey and i don't consider any of them winner material.
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>YouTube Poop buff
No.91705
Anonymous
>>91702
my personal theory is that these characters just attract people who are fucking weird.
No.91706
Anonymous
>poop buff
No.91708
Anonymous
>>91701
I'm gonna writefag for JJJ this year.
No.91709
Anonymous
>>91702
People will deny it but it’s not a coincidence that the chad walk meme happened the same year that livesey started to do well.

In fact they’ll get really defensive when you point that out.
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>>91701
whoever this guy is
No.91711
Anonymous
>>91704
but I vote for him because I like king of the hill
No.91712
Anonymous
Fang is the best winner and I’m tired of pretending she isn’t
No.91713
Anonymous
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>>91712
yeah okay NSA, where's the pastebin?
No.91714
Anonymous
>>91713
I just like the big Dino momma
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She can't keep getting away with this
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Was Jack right about wanting to lose?
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>>91715
Yeah but she can.
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No.91719
Anonymous
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>>91712
Fang is a very meh winner I never had strong feelings for either way and I think she got major overrated and hype-trained largely cause of the novelty that she's a fucking dino.
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I've got Squidward's nomination photo for Mr. /co/ ready
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>>91720
>SHITward died
No.91722
Anonymous
>>91719
Also she's in a good show that was currently airing. That's it. I never cared for her and I never will.
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>>91721
Don't worry, I've got you covered too, Krabs.
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>SHITward and FINISHED
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>>91723
>SHITbs died
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>>91723
>FAGbs is dead
No.91727
Anonymous
Replies:>>91729
>>91724
Can’t wait for Mr. Krabs to job again while either Squidward or Plankton make the Elite Eight this year.
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>>91694
fucking boobchuy shut the fuck up.
No.91729
Anonymous
Replies:>>91758
>>91727
>The wageslaves got to Elite Eight before Krabs
Capitalismbros...
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Anyways, I say we should keep this trend of villains winning and who else to top Skeletor than the clown prince of crime himself?
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>Joker
SHIT and FINISHED
No.91735
Anonymous
Okay so we really need tourney legacy winner to FINALLY win ms. /co/. Toph would've been great but she's out this year. The best prospects:
>Tyr'ahnee
Has the best shot I think. Gets consistent support throughout the whole run of a tourney instead of just the end, is liked by both silents and active tourney autists. I can see her being the biggest E8 returner.
>Chel
Statistically on par with Hank and Jack as the strongest /co/ character to never win. Kind of lacks a certain expectation they have though. I never see anyone talk of Chel as an actual winner. She's pretty much a silent lock though and if she gets decent support for once it can happen.
>Starfire
Generally too inconspicuous. Not even that she's quiet, just that she's not one to even point out shes being quiet. Though could have a surprise surge with a modicum of support like Raven had.
>Frankie
Too quiet. Is known by everyone for being too quiet like Chel. Has what it takes though. The kind of character I think would get a vocal surge in the end if she made it that far.
>Dominator
Kind of an oddball that's forgotten about but a real statistical success. A rally could get her there.
>Jessica Rabbit
It's been pointed out how she's pretty much the jobber test for others and the strongest not to have made E8. The kind of character that could sweep once they made it far enough.
Can probably disregard the rest of the classically considered "powerhouses". FARTS is an outdated meme and Azula and Shego really don't feel like they stand a chance anymore.
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>>91734
>RAPED and CORRECTED
Ftfy
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>>91734
>>91737
What damage has the term "Clownussy" done to these innocent gentlemen?
No.91739
Anonymous
Replies:>>91751
>>91735
Too bad it will be another non Elite-8 member winning the whole thing because we can't have good things in Ms..
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>>91735
Thank god I managed to recover that link with lots of Tyr'ahnee images to interact this time
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>Live villainous Mr. /co/ reaction
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>>91701
He's cool even besides Death Battle funposting
No.91751
Anonymous
Replies:>>91753
>>91739
Do you mean Jessica Rabbit will finally win?
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>Hey, hey, hey! Nightshift sabia muy gay!
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>>91751
That title should've been hers since the start tbh.
No.91757
Anonymous
>>91744
Good luck Halbro, comic picks have it rough in Mr these days.
No.91758
Anonymous
>>91729
Squidward also got into the finals of tag team in one attempt.
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>>91753
>Look up who she lost to in the first year
>It black canary aka the original hosts fap material

It really shocks me that all these years Jessica Rabbit has participated, she's never even once made it E8 despite being a girl worth the crown.
No.91761
Anonymous
>>91752
K, b, c.
No.91762
Anonymous
It'll be Jessica and Popeye/Scrooge's year
No.91764
Anonymous
>>91762
>Jessica and Popeye/Scrooge
Too good to be true sadly, it'll be only one of these.
No.91765
Anonymous
Comicheads deserve more respect. You guys ruled the bracket back in 2018
No.91766
Anonymous
>>91762
I'm pushing for Popeye. He's always been on the brink of E8 and a perfect pick if we want to finally get a good guy to win again.
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This will be the year of Magneto!
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>>91765
>You guys ruled the bracket back in 2018
Gee, I wonder why.
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Comics are BASED and COMING BACK.
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>>91765
>You guys ruled the bracket back in 2018
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>>91725
>>91726
This is what Squidward forced me to do
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>>91762
I want to believe.
No.91776
Anonymous
>>91772
One can only hope.
No.91777
Anonymous
Replies:>>91778
>>91773
I meant in amount of characters, wiseguy.
Back then you guys actually outnumbered the cartoons.
No.91778
Anonymous
>>91777
/co/'s comic book fans decrease with every passing year sadly, the medium's always been carried by older anons and those are the one's who are least likely to stick around with the passage of time.
No.91780
Anonymous
I think the first Mr. host rigging Cap also took a big dump on comic characters in future tourneys.
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>>91778
Doesn't help that comics are getting shittier every year and the comicfags even more shit.
I was actually gaining respect for Shakaranon until he revealed that he fucking rigs.
No.91787
Anonymous
>>91781
Shakara was a never ever so I'm not bothered by the fact that he's even more guaranteed to not get in now, but it does suck that the guy who posts with him is an actual rigging faggot.
No.91788
Anonymous
Replies:>>91791
>being surprised a spamming nigger is also a spamming rigger
No.91789
Anonymous
>>91781
>Doesn't help that comics are getting shittier every year
To be fair so are toons. And really all popular media. We're in a very dull era, and AI doesn't make things look promising.
No.91791
Anonymous
>>91788
spamming gigarigganigga bro's...
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I'll do it again.
No.91793
Anonymous
>>91781
Or /co/ itself getting more shit, the mods there are horrible. They went and pruned a watchmen thread the other day 300+ posts in that was perfectly fine!
No.91794
Anonymous
Replies:>>91822
>>91792
You know he's probably just getting auto-trashed now, right?
No.91795
Anonymous
>>91789
Cartoons at least had animation to fall back on when the writing and art style started to go to shit, comic books didn't have that so the fanbase evaporated much more quickly, when you combine that with the fact that comic books have always been more niche on top of comic book characters as a whole having to deal with the backlash of 2018's Mr host being a gigarigger it's not surprising that they've been performing badly ever since then.
No.91797
Anonymous
>>91789
Hey, Teenage Kraken and Dragged In were pretty good animated movies
No.91799
Anonymous
>>91797
>Teenage Kracken
>The movie whose presence on /co/ is characterized entirely by the fact that the fans think the movie is a complete waste of potential and hate how they wrote the main antagonist
>Good
No.91800
Anonymous
>>91797
Both of those are trash.
No.91801
Anonymous
>>91797
uhhhh ehhhhhh.....
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>>91797
>tfw /tnt/ would rather vote for Carl from Dragged In over someone like Samurai Jack just because he had a more prolific campaign despite never fucking existing
No.91806
Anonymous
>>91803
I hate silentfagging as much as the next guy but campooning worship has gotten a little stupid
No.91810
Anonymous
>>91803
Samurai Jack lost to Hugh Neutron. It was more than fair.
No.91820
Anonymous
Even the most silent characters didn't get the treatment Kiryu got.
No.91821
Anonymous
>>91820
What was that all about, several people started seething over Kiryu after he got into the Elite 8.
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>>91794
I know
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Realistically, are there even any /co/ characters from a modern property that has even a slight chance of doing really well other than Fang? Let's say, after a 2015 release. I really struggle to think of any.
No.91825
Anonymous
>>91820
The actual most silent don't get attention at all (Starfire, Velma, Kim).
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Wouldn't it be funny if itoddler stopped posting after Balls retired?
No.91827
Anonymous
Replies:>>91831
>>91820
I think Jack's "LET ME LOSE" stuff in Mr. /co/lympus is the funniest (and in-character) way to handle it.
No.91829
Anonymous
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>>91820
I made Recette cuckquean pastas and even I don't know what to think about Kiryu saying he likes BBC every thread nonstop.
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>>91828
ROUND ONE JOBBER
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>>91716
>>91827
I have to admit I never thought that campaign of mine would work but I think Jack would have made a fit winner considering Wuya was dark, evil etc. And Loona being his partner similar to that wolf in the new season. I hope by 2025 Jack is the final champion to end the elite 8 Mr. /co/. It would be such a long journey for him to take the throne that belonged to him once.
>>91828
Who?
No.91832
Anonymous
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>>91829
You're based anon. Never stop.
No.91833
Anonymous
>>91824
Death from TLW might have a chance if he doesn't get paired up against someone like Livesey right off the bat, he could be a potential midcarder.
No.91834
Anonymous
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>>91828
>>91831
These posts are so funny because I'm certain Jack's beloved drawfag who didn’t show up for the tournament last year is ALSO Anne's drawfag.
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>>91716
>>91831
>Samurai Jack
Based!
No.91836
Anonymous
Replies:>>91838
>>91831
>I hope by 2025 Jack is the final champion to end the elite 8 Mr. /co/.
I am sorry, Jackbro, but that final throne belongs to Hank...
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>They think the tournaments are going to end after 2025
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>>91834
I wasn't there back then so I don't know of said drawanon although I have to say his support would have been helpful nonetheless unless he had other picks to take care of.
>>91835
Hey it's the man who beat the other Jack, nice to meet you.
>>91836
If he does too well then I'm afraid Hank is being rigged by Aku who's playing mind tricks to make him a tarnished pick.
No.91839
Anonymous
>>91837
There may be more tourneys but it will be TRACED trash and 2025 is the last canon season.
No.91840
Anonymous
>>91820
>>91821
I was expecting more YONG YEAH funposting for Kiryu.
No.91841
Anonymous
>>91839
…according to my headcanon
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>>91839
The SHARTnga is traced yet you still see plenty of Toyofags and Toyolocos in the halls, as long as there's still potential for people to have fun and make OC and choose a good winner there will still be a tournament to participate in.
No.91843
Anonymous
>>91821
It was the fact that Kiryu was silent and beat Isaac Clarke by only 4 votes, gatekeeping a more vocal and favored character from E8. It also didn't help that one of the only people making OC for him wasn't anchoring most of his work.
No.91844
Anonymous
>>91821
It was literally itoddler with another gay spam troll tactic. The filenames were all IMG. Surprised more didn't catch on to that.
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give it to me straight bros, is she shit and finished?
By this point, I just want her to make it to round 2
No.91846
Anonymous
>>91832
But what if I want to stop?
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>>91844
People said they were all conveniently using phone and that's why they couldn't read the filenames. I hope the Hadesbro here didn't think people were pointing out his filenames.
No.91848
Anonymous
Replies:>>91854
>>91844
>Surprised more didn't catch on to that.
You can’t see file names if you yourself are a phone poster.
No.91850
Anonymous
Replies:>>91855
>>91845
Ms. /co/ itself is already SHIT and FINISHED and do you think it's worth it if she makes it past the tournament with the worst run ever?
No.91851
Anonymous
>phonepost scum
No.91852
Anonymous
>>91845
Yeah, she is. All furries are now SHIT and FINISHED and will never do well.
No.91853
Anonymous
Replies:>>91856
>>91845
She won two side tourneys, the only one to have that feat. Way more than most jobbers can say.
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>>91848
You absolutely can on android devices, I got a Samsung Galaxy for Christmas and can see them just fine both here and on the main site. I lurk lots of times on mobile. But you know what I couldn't see filenames on? My old Iphone 6s.
No.91855
Anonymous
Replies:>>91862
>>91850
If Tag-Team can know peace, Ms. /co/ can too.
No.91856
Anonymous
>>91853
Nobody counts tag team 2022, I guess /aco/ 2023 was pretty nice
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>Yeah, she is. All furries are now SHIT and FINISHED and will never do well.
No.91858
Anonymous
>>91854
/v/ros… are we itoddlers?
No.91860
Anonymous
>>91844
The only thread that didn't have a BBC Kiryu post in the qualifiers was Part 4, and that thread still had the /co/ iToddler doing his thing, so it was either someone else, or he was too busy annoying the thread with his IC-imitator shtick to spite Kiryu fans.
No.91861
Anonymous
>>91857
Name me one furry that can actually do well this year in Ms. that isn't Mrs. Brisby.
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>>91855
>Ms. /co/ can know peace
No.91863
Anonymous
Replies:>>91870
>>91861
Erhm_ Captain Amelia?
No.91864
Anonymous
>>91861
Kitty Katswell could probably do well if she had actual campaigners.
No.91865
Anonymous
>>91861
Judy, Lola (improved this year), Tigress, Captain Amelia and I'm missing others too.
>Mrs. Brisby
She isn't even anthro
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>>91865
Judybro is an interesting case because he was supporting Frankie back then in that drawing he made. I hope he does more for her too so she doesn't feel silent. Also RIP Creepy Susie.
No.91868
Anonymous
>>91867
Frankie is literally a cardboard cutout rather than an actual fucking character anymore. I've been in these tournaments for so long and I still have yet to see a post about Frankie.
No.91870
Anonymous
Replies:>>91873
>>91863
>>91864
>>91865
Alright I consneed. Maybe furries aren't completely SHIT and FINISHED. Mrs. Brisby is still an anthro THOUGH.
No.91871
Anonymous
Replies:>>91874
>>91824
Murder Drones & Digital Circus
DHMIS
Mao Mao seemed popular for a time
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
No.91872
Anonymous
>>91864
>>91865
Don't forget Nicole, I still feel it pretty retarded she was falsely accused for a whole year of being rigged all throughout only for NSA to reveal it was just only ONE round that she isn't even entirely sure if it was rigged or not even saying he was going to replace the asterisk
No.91873
Anonymous
>>91870
Duh, when it comes to main tournaments kids and anthro characters will always have it terrible for Ms. /co/. Only anthros have slightly better luck in side ones and yet I still hope for a kid character to make it on his/her own without depending on people like Aerdass
No.91874
Anonymous
>>91871
All early jobbers.
No.91875
Anonymous
>>91873
Are we talking about the same tournament? Ms /co/ is the only one I've seen where anthro girls can actually do well, none of them ever make it past Round 2 in Queen.
No.91876
Anonymous
>>91873
We need a good and notable campaigner for a child character that isn't Aerdass, but I don't think that's gonna happen.
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>They've already forgotten about Toph
No.91878
Anonymous
>>91875
Rouge almost got into the Elite 8 in 2022 but lost to the character that got third place, GLaDOS.
No.91879
Anonymous
Replies:>>91881
>>91877
I don't trust a comeback kid who failed to deliver, especially after we've had two terrible finalists.
No.91880
Anonymous
>>91875
Oh well yeah of course it's going to be different for Queen due to the high traffic in there. Only Rouge through a lucky bracket could have made it elite 8 and from what we've seen chances are NSA/OFA could have robbed her e8 spot to keep pushing GLaDOS.
No.91881
Anonymous
Replies:>>91884
>>91879
Please understand. There were two OFA mains at stake…
No.91882
Anonymous
Replies:>>91887
NSA rigged out Toph.
No.91883
Anonymous
>>91743
After this streak of villains, where are our HEROES to protect us? Who would be your HEROES to win
>2024
>2025
>2026
No.91884
Anonymous
>>91881
>NSA drew both of the finalists
What a suspiciously favorable outcome for him.
No.91885
Anonymous
>>91883
>Popeye
>Hank
>Jack
No.91886
Anonymous
>>91883
>a character from Murder Drones or Digital Circus
>a character from DHMIS
>Mao Mao
No.91887
Anonymous
>>91882
No shit sherlock
No.91888
Anonymous
>>91883
>Popeye
>Jack
>Optimus
Honorable mention to any capeshit character
Replies:>>91890
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>NSA rigged out both Rouge and Toph
No.91890
Anonymous
Replies:>>91891
>>91889
And Raven and possibly the most evident is Gardevoir too.
No.91891
Anonymous
>>91890
Don't forget Muffet. I think that's the most obvious one.
No.91892
Anonymous
>>91877
It could have been her...
https://vocaroo.com/12OPfyuGSkvq
No.91894
Anonymous
>>91803
Honestly a character that literally doesn't exist could make for a great campaign, I'll vote for him this year.
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Hello anons. I have been looking to make a suffering chat concerning tournaments. It was originally just going to King and Queen but I decided to also include /co/lympus and make it a general tournament chart. This is supposed to be a base for it so someone with editing skills can make it look proper when it's done.
If you want to recommend someone do it by giving a name, recommended place as -how much suffering is deserved-/-suffering- and optionally something a character is known for in the tournaments. You should count both canon and tournament events when deciding where you would want someone placed. Example being "Matias Torres (Dirty Sheets) should be at 90/70 for this reason".

I am not familiar with /co/lympus so I will not place anyone on my own initiative like I do with some /v/ picks. Places can be shuffled around if need be, for example I will move Psyanon(Top Form) if you think someone should be in his place. I recommend you first start with the winners, then move on to E8 and characters who have at least some sort of presence in these tournaments.
No.91898
Anonymous
>>91778
It's kind of wild to see in five years the /co/ comic fanbase evaporate so quickly that we went from a lot of capeshit variety in the bracket to only eternals making it at low seeds, and from Superman/Batman/Spiderman competing for titles to Scrooge McDuck being by far the best shot for a comic character win
No.91899
Anonymous
Replies:>>91901
>>91861
Slappy Squirrel is breakout run material
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Please don't mind the idiocy and pettiness of some Homestuckfags. They are used to a lot of emotional abuse.
No.91901
Anonymous
>>91899
Skippyanon was hinting towards something near the end of round 2 last year but then Slappy went and jobbed the round.
No.91902
Anonymous
Replies:>>91905
>>91900
Speaking of homestuck, I’ve noticed they’re not getting banned anymore. One even reached bump limit and there’s currently one still on.
No.91904
Anonymous
Replies:>>91909
>>91900
https://vocaroo.com/1hceN7SoIYSZ
Replies:>>91916
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>>91902
That's because Homestuck threads have been suspect of being targeted by a single fagnitor for a long time. There has never been an official stipulation against discussing Homestuck on /co/, the only thing that got banned was the old Homestuck General (/hsg/) back in 2014.
Replies:>>91908
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yo hazbinfags
if you want to make it far
i think niffty might be your best shot
just saying
No.91908
Anonymous
>>91906
Not really. No one from Hazbin will ever get far, much less Nifty. She's not nearly as recognizable as the ones that got in.
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>>91904
Uh hey, I actually made that audio. Wouldn't expect to see it get reposted here.
On the topic of Hussie, from what little I have gathered recently a lot of the details that have been uncovered around his relationship with his family explain a lot about the man's behaviour and certain plot threads in the latter half of the comic.
No.91912
Anonymous
>>91895
Samurai Jack should be high suffering, low deserving considering he kept winning matches last year when he just wanted to drop out of the tournament.
No.91916
Anonymous
Replies:>>91919
>>91905
when will the fagnitor come back
No.91917
Anonymous
>>91797
I never saw Teenage Kraken, but the Dragged In movie was so much worse than the book. Removing the heist scene and re-arranging the plot to be more linear was fucking stupid, and they only did it for that terrible party scene so they could put Paramore on the movie poster.
No.91919
Anonymous
>>91916
Maybe never. Maybe he was finally laid off. According to some rumors he was the same fagnitor who allowed Industrycuck's threads and filled reports against the anons who informed about him.
No.91920
Anonymous
Replies:>>91924
>>91775
If she gets a campaign and OC this year around I’ll honestly vote for her. The main complaint about her is the fact that she’s somewhat silent but she’s not exactly a silent pick either.
No.91921
Anonymous
Replies:>>91922
>>91895
Not the Loona anon but she should be in 55/25 mostly because despite her failing Ms. /co/ everyday she has had two victories even though one of them comes from a disastrous tournament which she carries with her partner
No.91922
Anonymous
>>91921
>every year
Forgot to mention her drawanon is pretty chill and funny.
No.91924
Anonymous
>>91920
OC is campaign.
No.91926
Anonymous
>>91838
>Hey it's the man who beat the other Jack, nice to meet you.
This gives me an idea for a /cov/ team
No.91939
Anonymous
>>91895
>It was originally just going to King and Queen but I decided to also include /co/lympus and make it a general tournament chart.
Dude just keep them two separate things
No.91943
Anonymous
>>91736
>even King Boobies thinks the comparison is stupid
Anti-Silverbros...
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>>91720
too slow
No.91951
Anonymous
Why haven't the hosts said anything about NSA yet?
Replies:>>92008
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>>91895
I got agree with the other guy on Loona, 55 suffering and 25, maybe 30 deserved seems about right for her. She does horribly in Ms /co/ despite the passion, her tag-team win is VERY tainted, and NSA flipped out about her being in the map. But her /aco/ win was very clean and deserved. 30 deserved because we don't know how much of the rigging was her specifically and she tragically IS Vivshit.
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>>91895
Wuss in toots at 85 suffering, 5 deserved
>literally only a single vote, couldn't even get a pity vote from Perrito
>the biggest tournament punching bag since Boo, but not nearly as antagonistic
>however, hasn't been raped or tormented. Just made fun of a lot.
No.91955
Anonymous
I wish the anti-Silverfag would stop bringing up that one schizo, you know, the one that shat on the angel rabbit thing in the Mr. /co/ afterparty. That guy will look for any reason to feel oppressed.
Replies:>>91958
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>>91951
People have talked about Blackmail. I hate to sound like a /pol/ schizo but do you think NSA shared illegal stuff on her hosting discord to keep them all in line?
No.91958
Anonymous
>>91956
I was thinking more like sexual favors rather than illegal shit.
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>>91865
>>Mrs. Brisby
>She isn't even anthro
that's the best part
No.91962
Anonymous
>>91895
Spider-Man for 75 suffering and 100 deserved, in the current comics he suffers, in the tournament he either jobs early or jobs before reaching the elite 8, but he deserves it all for raping Twig
No.91965
Anonymous
>>91895
The Monarch must be around top right
No.91967
Anonymous
>>91895
Jucika (puta)
60, 60
No.91969
Anonymous
Replies:>>91981
>>91687
>John Silver is actually a well-liked and beloved character from an underrated movie and people whole-heartedly support.
Everywhere outside the very specific /tnt/ tournament crowd John Silver is never brought up. I engage in a lot in the /co/ Disney realm and John Silver is basically nonexistent in that conversation and I don't recall the last thread, if any, made on him. Even Atlantis gets brought up far more on the board then Treasure Planet and those characters have never qualified once (despite I believe Milo in the 2018 early weirdness lineup) so John Silver comes off as a massive oddity to qualify two times, once in the 50s seeding. And not odd like NSA rigging Goo odd because Silver isn't rigged and has supporters, but it's the same kinda level character, from media sort of known but not the character people think of enough to vote, so it's a surprise to see very high seeding. It can be very reasonably explained, especially with the early losses, that he's a /tnt/ crowd top favorite due to his campaigns but is confusing for anyone else who doesn't engage here, because the character itself isn't seen as memorable, so he loses early.

Which, again, this is /tnt/ and he is basically /tnt/'s flagship character, so of course people here will defend him to the end of the earth. But people need to be sincere in that he's only qualifying for anything because the one anon campaigns nonstop for him and people here like that campaign so vote in expectation of that. He would not sniff the 200s in Mr /co/'s if that anon never posted, and it's delusional to think he would
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>>91895
I kind of wish /co/ would just start its own cause /v/ already took all the extreme spots.
But Spinel's an easy 100, 5/10
No.91973
Anonymous
Replies:>>91977
>>91970
I never watched SU, did they kill her?
No.91977
Anonymous
>>91973
No. Actually if we're counting both canon and tourney stuff she could probably go like 100, 70. Still think /v/ took too many of the best spots though.
No.91979
Anonymous
Replies:>>92020
>>91895
Going by what that anon said about /v/ taking the best spots, the character doesn't HAVE to be filled. It could simply be a partially filled /v/ chart, and a second chart for /co/.
No.91980
Anonymous
I'd like to make a dbs powerchart for /co/, like /v/ did/.
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>>91969
Coming off as Silveranon himself, I in fact agree that Silver would never make it in the bracket had I alongside a few other anons who seem to appreciate the character from said movie, not campaigned for him.

But, you're coming off as pity and very ignorant.
Treasure Planet, despite what you claim has threads dedicated to it on occasion as I browse /co/ and I like to engage in them. And to bring a better point, there is Captain Amelia, a character that actually is very successful in Ms. /co/ with both results and fan-crowd as she receives support in terms of campaigning and art pieces.
>he is basically /tnt/'s flagship character
Captain Silver alongside Ruber lost in round 1 on the Tag-Teams just a week ago. They had barely high-midcard status in the seeds and it was very apperant people preferred the giant localizers over them.
More so I don't understand why such the big disdain as to compare Silver to King Boo as say he's being spammed. This point I personally want you to elaborate because this reply you've given isn't satisfactory.
No.91982
Anonymous
>sexual blackmail
The theories have gradually entered the zone of being ridiculous.
Replies:>>91990
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>>91981
Assuming this isn't some wierd NSA psyop, or someone pretending to be NSA psyoping us for attention's sake, it could just be plain and simple seethe. No matter what any character with any notoriety seems to get some autist's jimmies rustled for some reason, I can't imagine Silver being exempt from it. Even very beloved and Incontroversial winners like Curly Brace or Skeletor I saw seethe towards, it just happens.
No.91987
Anonymous
Replies:>>91988
>>91982
yeah that one is weird, what the fuck could NSA even blackmail them with?
>Oh no, Ballsanon has a huge collection of furry futa porn and ERP'd on discord with NSA about it, it's literally over
No.91988
Anonymous
>>91987
Maybe NSA used their fed connections to dox them.
Replies:>>91991
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>>91985
It is clear that particular anon has a disdain towards Silver, and I have pretty good idea of who it might be. Its not numnuts.

But I genuinely like to hear from the big guy himself to prove his points because most of the arguments he brings are on very weak foundations.
Like
>I engage in a lot in the /co/ Disney realm and John Silver is basically nonexistent in that conversation
Reading that line is more than enough to give an idea on what basis this person is working upon. He never stops and thinks logically but takes facts at absolute face value. He never ponders the hypothetical question like
>"What the most underrated disney movie"
It very apparent which answers will be given. But that's justgossip, I wanna hear what he has to say.
No.91991
Anonymous
Replies:>>91995
>>91990
…Is it Temp?
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>>91991
Not totally sure.
But there isn't really anybody else that I am familiar with that is familiar with both /co/ and /tnt/, goes on long tangents without any basis, is very emotionally driven and takes things at face value other than temp.
No.91997
Anonymous
>>91982
NSAgate
No.92003
Anonymous
Replies:>>92014
>>91981
Sure, I was dropping it but you're going to continuously bring it up. And I'll put it nicely for you as well.
King Boo is another character who is not remotely the first thing people think of when his series is brought up, and would never make a major tournament on his own accord (especially with series rule in that case), but has one dedicated campaigner for years continuously posting as much as possible leading up to the character qualifying in the top 128 for King /v/ this year since he becomes familiar and popular with the campaign crowd who then votes for him for that. The character is very well known to the campaign crowd but is not as apparent to silent voters why he's there so he jobs early, and if that campaigner didn't exist he would have never even made top 300 of King /v/.
Now anything else you want to hear?
No.92005
Anonymous
>>91982
Never say something is too ridiculous until we get all the facts anon, the fact NSA has been getting away with so many things without other hosts doing anything is suspect in of itself.
Replies:>>92009
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>there’s being transparent and spilling the beans on everything
No.92008
Anonymous
>>91953
I still take her win in Tag-team as 50/50 since no one knows for sure if it was in part thanks to the /co/ and /trash/ boards clashing in that same thread. Still a million times better than a host rigging for his pick though (cough Demonic Hosts, Wuya)
No.92009
Anonymous
>>92006
What did Balls mean by that?
No.92010
Anonymous
>>92009
That's what I have been wondering.
No.92014
Anonymous
Replies:>>92032
>>92003
>Now anything else you want to hear?
How is that spam?
Do you wish me to stop campaigning for a character I like? For a character that other people like. It is apparent that you're serious* and are actually not trying to take the attention of anybody for lols.
You're putting serious effort on what is, without offense, one of the most childish arguments I have yet witnessed since ages.

King Boo, is not thought of in the first place because he belongs in one of the largest franchises in the world and which is known mostly from spin-offs. Silver belongs in a relatively niche one-off movie where is THE main antagonist/deuteragonist of the movie. He plays as a father-figure to the main character but also as the captain of the pirate crew. Character-wise they're null, there is no comparison.
In the tournaments, King Boo has to compete with several characters from his own franchise to be even able to get the cut in the tournaments, while Silver is the most likely TP contender to even enter the Mr. /co/ tournament. King Boo campaigner is a GETS maniac not meaning in a offensive way and is constantly humiliated in the threads which he fully plays along, while I humbly try to stay as in character as possible when tournaments arrive to campaign for the Silver.
Again, there's literally no similarity or comparisons to be made.

There was an anon who you replied to that said AM is similar to Silver. He had a point on some basis.
AM prior to 2021, never ever made the cut and in 2021 he only made it in the bracket because there was a campaign for him and an alliance. If AM never had any type of campaign nor schizo alliance, I doubt he'd ever qualify for the main tournaments.
No.92015
Anonymous
Replies:>>92016
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/656295387
>midna_alt_win_screen_by_onlyfansart_dg89rqk-fullview.jpg
How the hell did Balls know about NSA's DeviantArt to have downloaded the image there?
No.92016
Anonymous
Replies:>>92017
>>92015
Wasn't the link posted during Ms or Mr by who we thought was just Wuyaanon?
No.92017
Anonymous
Replies:>>92018
>>92016
Oh yeah, you are correct. But it's still strange because one would have to assume Balls accessed the link to begin with and saw the art in question there. Normally when the hosts use archived OC to make the OPs, they directly download them from the boorus. You can see it here.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/subject/Queen%20of%20%2Fv%2F%202023%20nominations/
No.92018
Anonymous
>>92017
Could balls have already known?
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>>91970
>>91979
Starting a /co/ chart would be no problem. What do you say about it being 10x10 or 11x11? For reference /v/ one has 120/400 places filled up so a 11x11 would be already filled up.
No.92021
Anonymous
Still waiting for that pastebin btw.
No.92024
Anonymous
Replies:>>92027
>>92021
IT'LL BE OUT WHEN IT'S OUT.
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>>92021
I've been having a tummy ache after eating that shit
No.92026
Anonymous
>>92021
Bros I think it's time to create the Lostmediawiki article for Nightshiftanon's Pastebin (Existence Unconfirmed)
No.92027
Anonymous
>>92024
Great work ethic
No.92028
Anonymous
Replies:>>92104
I don't know if Coayy or Samaritanon ever shared their respective emails here, but Dominos/Ghost's Discord is Cookies-Chicken#7914 according to the Mr. /co/lympus (has fallen) 2021 thread.
No.92029
Anonymous
>>91883
>Master Shake, Leader of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force
There's no need to name anyone else because there is no greater hero than him.
No.92030
Anonymous
>>91883
>Courage
>finally a cape winner (Batman or Spiderman preferably)
>Hank
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>You want my pastebin? You can have it! I left everything I gathered together in one place! Now you just have to find it!
No.92032
Anonymous
>>92014
No? I don't expect people to stop making posts they want to make. In my case I'm making connections between two separate campaigns that have similarities in the way I see them, which every campaign has some differences. You might see it comparable to others as you said, that's how people have different takes.
You're on 4chan (the spinoff here at least), everyone has a different opinion and it's impossible for everyone involved to like the same thing, if you can't take criticism that is handed out to every character/anon that participates I don't know why you're on a website with a critical culture. You also see King Boo's campaign rather negatively given prior comments, as do others, so it would be rather hypocritical in that case to think only certain characters should be protected relics
And I do find the * interesting, you could stop being coy and just be direct who you think I am. Going by your asterisk hint I already know who you're going to say and I already know it's going to be laughably wrong
No.92033
Anonymous
Silver is like AM if he was actually good and if he actually belongs to the board that he's competing in. Too bad to see which one performed well and which one didn't.
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>mfw this guy is still going
No.92035
Anonymous
>>92033
NSAbro btw
No.92036
Anonymous
Silver is underrated as a cartoon character but overrated as a tourney character. Same with Livesey.
No.92037
Anonymous
>>92033
>if he was actually good and if he actually belongs to the board that he's competing in.
IHNMaIMS threads are a common sight on /v/ and sometimes even reach bump limit. And I and many other anons view IHNMaIMS as one of the old /v/core games.

Of course, you wouldn't know that because this is the /co/ discussion thread.
No.92038
Anonymous
No.92040
Anonymous
Replies:>>92114
>>92037
He's from the short story. Spider-Man and Batman has a bunch of threads all the time of their games but I don't see them qualifying.
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Bro I think this guy just wants to see you get angry, or "have a melty". Regardless of "who" they are (if it even matters, considering we're off-season and has nothing to do with serious tournament ruling it really doesn't) I don't think they're worth the attention or analysis.
No.92042
Anonymous
Replies:>>92044
>>92037
I genuinely never remember seeing more than two or three IHNMaIMS threads on /v/ after using the board regularly for going on 7 years now. And I say this as someone who read the story years ago and enjoyed it.
AM's basically just the "based" version of Batter
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>>92041
The stupid hellhound is right! Just let him make a fool of himself!
No.92044
Anonymous
Replies:>>92048
>>92042
Then you don't lurk enough.
>AM's basically just the "based" version of Batter
...What the fuck does this even mean?
No.92045
Anonymous
>>92041
>Posting Loona
Lol bro
No.92046
Anonymous
Replies:>>92047
>>92045
>no refutal
Lol bro
No.92047
Anonymous
>>92046
>rebuttal
Lol me
No.92048
Anonymous
>>92044
It means that Battler is just the "bueno" version of AM
No.92049
Anonymous
>Battler
Don't bring this autism here
No.92051
Anonymous
>>92041
which person are you talking about
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>>92032
You’re unironically on the same league as NSA’s “water laws” when it comes to what the fuck you’re trying to come across.
How have you been criticizing Silveranon by comparing him with King Boo’s spam?
No.92054
Anonymous
Replies:>>92058
Faggler lost.
No.92056
Anonymous
>>92051
nta but anti-silverschizo maybe. Either way move that to the /v/ thread
>>92034
Get in line King Boobies
No.92057
Anonymous
>trying to pick a fight with a psychologist
No.92058
Anonymous
>>92054
Fagglerbros...
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>>92057
Hey look on the bright side, this is very funny.
Replies:>>92061
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>>92051
the faggot comparing King Boo to John silver, he obviously wants to get under Silverbro's skin
>>92045
But she's just so cute
No.92061
Anonymous
Replies:>>92062
>>92060
>Posting Loona
Lol bro so funny. Please post more of her... So I can laugh at her of course.
No.92062
Anonymous
>>92061
Your favorite girl?
No.92063
Anonymous
Replies:>>92066
>>92062
No but I do like her.
No.92064
Anonymous
Replies:>>92071
>>92057
They are kinda sucking as one with this thread's discussion ngl
No.92065
Anonymous
>>92062
I haven't had a crush on a 2D gal like Loona this hard since Midna, which was well over a decade ago.
No.92066
Anonymous
Replies:>>92072
>>92063
>>92065
She's Edgeworth's
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>>92032
Interesting.
Firstly I was somewhat invested in discussing on what makes you think the way you do. Wasn't taking it seriously to begin with, until my previous reply which I then bumped my head and realized what I was getting myself into. Although I wanna discuss just this tiny part a bit more.
>if you can't take criticism that is handed out to every character/anon that participates I don't know why you're on a website with a critical culture.
I admit that I have a flaw. Please criticize me, I have spammed my character for years but I don't know how and where I did it! Please, tell me how much I spam my character.

How many times you've straight up derailed and ignored a lot of key points in my arguments really is making this an headache and more effort than I am willing to give.I also don't give a flick who you are.
No.92068
Anonymous
>>92065
>NightMindaAnon
Loonabros...
No.92069
Anonymous
Luna
Now that's ms. /co/ material.
No.92070
Anonymous
>Minda
Replies:>>92077
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>>92064
What's better
Spending $100,000+ and years in school to get a degree that lets you tell people what's wrong with them
or
the Ascendent autism where your pedantic autist habits stop focusing outward and instead funnel inward to entirely refuse others controlling you in undesirable manners, including getting upset or not having fun anymore
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>>92066
Back off pretty boy, Loona is taken by me!
No.92074
Anonymous
Replies:>>92075
>>92069
If she's winner material, who isn't?
No.92075
Anonymous
Replies:>>92079
>>92074
Loona
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>>92071
You can never beat a retarded autist in any argument. Ever.
No.92078
Anonymous
Replies:>>92086
>>92072
>crunch
No.92079
Anonymous
>>92075
Ms. /aco/ 2023 says hello
No.92080
Anonymous
>NSA wants Loona to kill her to please her fetish
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>SHITward lost
No.92084
Anonymous
>>92081
Skeletor put his bone in that???
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>>92084
Nope.
He does.
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>>92084
More likely to take it than the witch! She's a good hellhound!
>>92078
Nice try, He-Man. You can keep your scaredy cat while I have my hellhound!
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I am still curious on how Silver is somehow on par with King Boo on being spammed.
Like, I don't remember Silver even being active on Mr. /co/ 2023.
No.92088
Anonymous
We should've had Mr. /aco/ too so we can have 3 men having sex with Loona. It's what she deserves.
No.92089
Anonymous
Replies:>>92092
>>92088
And Tyr'ahnee and Rouge.
No.92090
Anonymous
Replies:>>92094
>>92084
>>92086
Sorry Skeletor, she's property of Mansley.
No.92091
Anonymous
>>92088
Just a subtle reminder that we still have zero clue on who the fuck won the original Ms. /aco/ as there was one held around 2018 (I think).
No.92092
Anonymous
Replies:>>92095
>>92089
Yeah, they all deserve a great man to take care of them.
>>92091
And this mysterious woman deserves a mysterious man also.
No.92093
Anonymous
>>92091
I did my research and it doesn't even matter because it was held in a discord server and not even the traditional tourney way. Apparently it was Zone.
No.92094
Anonymous
>>92090
>Edgeworth enters the ring
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>>92091
>>92092
>>92093
I know for a fact that the finals were between Maid-Bot and Zone.
The winner seems to have been zone but I have no clue about it being held in discord.
No.92097
Anonymous
>>92096
Cute sexy bug
Replies:>>92126
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>>92096
Are you seeing this shit Zorak
No.92099
Anonymous
>>92095
It did as told back in the Ms. /aco/ discussion thread back for the makeup. You can also search it by the subject and the semifinals and finals are missing because they were held in a discord server
No.92100
Anonymous
>>92093
>held in a discord server
This is like not sharing the drawing magma's. What's the point of having it be a board thing if it's not shared with the board?
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>>92095
>>92099
Archive-wise last I can find is semifinals having a poll were on /aco/ but inside one of the threads, but the poll they linked was never closed. Can't find anything on the Finals, which I assume was some Discord exclusive only and makes it non-official and/or abandoned
No.92102
Anonymous
>>92097
Fang…
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>>92069
for me it's Celestia
No.92104
Spideranon !!hAaBXjbZBz7
>>92028
Some time ago, Discord made away with the #+numbers part of usernames, forcing users to change their tags so that is likely no longer valid.
No.92105
Anonymous
>>92097
Isaac...
No.92106
Anonymous
>>92103
I actually find the /mlp/ line-up pretty solid outside of MA Shartson.
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>>92099
>>92101
I literally was there.
I participated on those threads and had no fucking clue about the main tournaments at that time. I know for a fact that there was an afterparty thread celebrating Zone-tans victory.
No.92108
Anonymous
Replies:>>92111
>>92081
I can't read Dragonball, what does this say
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>>92097
>Cute sexy bug
No.92110
Anonymous
>>92101
>>92095
Found it
https://desuarchive.org/aco/thread/7077293/#q7078342
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>>92108
>I can't read DragonballDragonballDragonball
No.92112
Anonymous
Replies:>>92118
>>92095
>16 characters
>not even on the main site
That's just sad, the pitiful board game tournament /bgg/ had was less embarassing than that
No.92113
Anonymous
>>92103
Bejita…
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>>92040
>Spider-Man and Batman has a bunch of threads all the time of their games but I don't see them qualifying.
Here's the difference: nobody views either Spider-Man, or Batman, or any other cape as videogame characters because their appearances in vidya are very much secondary to their /co/ material, having only been relevant for just a relatively small part of their full history. You are NEVER going to meet anyone in your life who only recognizes them as videogame characters for these reasons.

AM has a fully fledged psychology in the game that, while hinted at in the original short story, isn't really elaborated upon. He only has two lines of dialogue (counting the Hate speech), and the reader only gets to observe him through the lens of an unreliable narrator. In the game, AM has at least half an hour worth of dialogue, explained motivations, mannerisms, a headspace you literally have to walk upon, and intricate relationships with each of the five captives. If in the short story AM's character was only something implicit, in the videogame it becomes explicit. The videogame is fundamentally integral to anyone intending to experiene and understand the character, which is a big reason as to why it arguably has come to supersede the short story in many aspects; a lot people will, and can claim only knowing IHNaIMS in the first place thanks to the fact the story was adapted into a different medium.

Saying that AM doesn't belong to the /v/ competition because he has origins in literature is disingenous at best, and an argument only pushed by people who are ignorant of his character, don't like him, or both.
No.92116
Anonymous
Replies:>>92125
>>92114
So AM is like Silver then?
No.92118
Anonymous
>>92110
>>92112
Many talk about Stats and his whereabouts but I wonder myself where the hell did Tourneymaster go. He wasn't TourneyAnon(Numnuts) and no one knows for sure where he came from. He promised to host Ms. /aco/ again in 2022 but never showed up. He's the one who started everything
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>>92114
So the anti-silverfag is an AMfag?
Didn't expect an actual schizophrenic here lmao.
No.92121
Anonymous
>>92110
At that point it would have to be considered abandoned during the semifinals, given the only posts about anything after was that it was it was on an unaccessable Discord (which means that it's a separate group voting on who they want and not 4chan users, and the Discord wasn't even linked so an unofficial "continuation") and the only evidence at all that there was a finals is "dude trust me" as no images or other evidence of later rounds exist but the semifinals poll not being closed while the others were indicates abandonment
No.92122
Anonymous
>>92119
Different posters
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>>92114
I've come around to liking AM more, and Battler less
AM I originally knew about from the story, but when I saw the level of knowledge AMchads where willing to share about his source material, adaptations, and Harlan Ellison's life, he really grew on me. The big angry block is pretty funny too, he's really fun to make art with because the sky is the limit with him yet he still has well defined traits of intense hatred and obsession.
Battler I originally though was kindof funny, but then I noticed he's not really even part of anything anymore. He's just some abstract shit-post thing that exists. If I see a thread with him as the OP on /v/, absolute NOTHING the people are talking about makes sense. There's some shit with wrestling and Agent 47. Are people talking about Umineko? Probably not. The way he COMPLETELY derailed the king finals was disgusting, nobody could just enjoy Eggman or Grimm because every other fucking post was "CROWN STEAL CROWN STEAL". And of course the Battler vs 47 "legendary battle" was fucking nothing. Thanos has to literally rape them into motivation when after all of these years they FINALLY got the battle they derailed so hard over, and then do fucking nothing. Battler's just become an even stupider Alex Eagleston.
No.92125
Anonymous
>>92116
Kind of? Treasure Planet certainly wouldn't exist without Treasure Island, at least as it was conceived by Disney. But the John Silver we know from the tournaments exists on his own as a separate itteration from the one in Louis Stevenson's book. Not allowing him in would be like banning Ariel or Mulan in Ms. /co/.

>>92119
Eh??? Where are you getting the idea I'm the anti-Silverfag? Silver is actually the closest thing I have to a main in Mr. /co/lympus as of currently. The only reason I have been unable to campaign for him properly is because he is SO fucking hard to draw...
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>>92098
Yes I am, Ruber. Silver are you seeing this shit?
No.92128
Anonymous
This made me regret not participating for Mr when I was already burnt out. I made an empty promise to draw and campaign Silver the year before but didn't deliver. He is my personal favorite besides the plunderers since Treasure Planet was my thing growing up.
Replies:>>92131
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>>92125
>he is SO fucking hard to draw...
He is literally Midna of /co/. At one side he's a fatass that doesn't have that many details and seems pretty easy to draw. The you go to the other side and see mechanical shit you've never seen and have no fucking clue on how they work. It's also why I will never touch Silver, even with a ten foot pole
No.92130
Anonymous
>>92125
Hey, that didn't stop that one Disney fan from making a well drawn full-length fully-rendered smut comic of him.
No.92131
Anonymous
Replies:>>92139
>>92129
You know it's bad when not even Renaissance era Disney wanted to draw that shit, and just made the robo-arm CG
No.92134
Anonymous
Oh god damn it I just found something
No.92136
Anonymous
>>92134
What?
No.92137
Anonymous
>>92134
What did ya find anon?
Replies:>>92141
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>>92131
Good CGI too. The most impressive thing about Treasure Planet is how damn well it manages to combine both 2d and 3d animations and backgrounds without a single eyesore.
No.92141
Anonymous
>>92139
I heard it was a passion project by the animators at Disney, hence the movie wasn't afforded the full advertising budget they wished for or something.
No.92143
Anonymous
>>92141
yeah iirc the directors had to make Hercules if they wanted Treasure Planet to become a thing
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>>92141
Passion project 30 years in the making If I am not mistaken. They were denied the project multiple times and the one time it was accepted it was promptly sabotaged by disney executives.
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Anyway, this isn't that bad as I thought given the timing, but I thought it was interesting

Anon's comment made me interested in searching up Tourneymaster, how Ms /aco/ started and how they just disappeared off the face of the Earth after the first one. I was recalling some anons wanting side tournaments and then it just coming up randomly in the Ms /co/ threads that year

Just found that thread it started in so here you go and the image they use explains everything, from why the tournament started to why that anon just disappeared entirely despite saying they were going to return

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/125810050/#125811107
No.92148
Anonymous
No.92150
Anonymous
>>92147
The fuck?
No.92153
Anonymous
>>92147
I'm done
No.92155
Anonymous
Replies:>>92160
>>92147
I never cared for Ms. /aco/
Is this just about NSA/OFA running the original one?
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>>92147
HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING WORSE
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>>92147
ah shit
No.92159
Anonymous
>>92123
battler is to /v/ what dragon ball is to /co/
No.92160
Anonymous
Replies:>>92163
>>92155
TL;DR it's likely NSA/OFA was the original runner of Ms /aco/ under a different name/trip in what would be known as the first tournament they hosted. This was during Ms /co/ 2021 when Stats was still hosting. Between Ms and Mr Stats died and then NSA under the current name and trip started hosting the mains, after which they quietly abandoned /aco/ entirely, despite mention of a 2022 return.

So it makes everything that happened there make sense, they wanted a tournament and made one until they got hold of the majors and their side tournament wasn't needed by them for power.
No.92162
Anonymous
Replies:>>92165
>>92147
I hope Villainous won't be spitevoted because of all this
No.92163
Anonymous
Replies:>>92164
>>92160
That makes sense. Kind of annoying that he won't hand off the running of at least the /v/ tournaments to someone else though.
No.92164
Anonymous
>>92163
>Kind of annoying that he won't hand off the running of at least the /v/ tournaments to someone else though.
He was never going to do that because he had favorites in the running.
No.92165
Anonymous
>>92162
The girl character (Dementia? Forget her name) might be alright, because his interest doesn't seem to be show-based and people are more forgiving on the /co/ side
Black Hat is 1000% done but was for at least a month now
No.92166
Anonymous
>>92147
holy kek
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.cgl.co.d.fit.g.his.int.k.m.mlp.mu.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg/image/MgxXvqHlbTJtP9gmeKoIgA/
check that filename
No.92167
Anonymous
>>92166
Particularly
> Carl_qgzuxk3.jpg (matching filename for Tourneymaster)
>Basically! Blues are meant for ignoring until they are on the verge of suicide watch or adversely until they are on the verge of raping me brutally. Men don't deserve kindness or happiness, they are only meant to be violent apes or they should be culled like the spineless worms they are.
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>>92166
>Blues are meant for ignoring until they are on the verge of suicide watch or adversely until they are on the verge of raping me brutally. Men don't deserve kindness or happiness, they are only meant to be violent apes or they should be culled like the spineless worms they are.
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mfw
No.92171
Anonymous
Replies:>>92175
>>92166
also weird favoritism
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/7um55y3dxnmyCe6dnY6eSw/ (check filename again)
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No.92174
Anonymous
How the fuck does this keep getting worse
No.92175
Anonymous
>>92171
And also likes Grevious
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/filename/%201595392079021/
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>>92166
Our tournaments were hijacked by a narcissistic perverted retard.
No.92178
Anonymous
Does this rabbit hole ever end?
No.92179
Anonymous
>>92175
I have to admit that this one is only half right, the Desuarchive filename is the filename that Tourneymaster is using. Implying that it's a possibility that they both just got it from the archive at some point. Probable? Who knows.
No.92180
Anonymous
>>92178
No
Soon we're going to find out NSA is moot
No.92181
Anonymous
Kind of irrelevant to this new discovery, but I want to remind you that NSA, in her on words, claimed that the really was no way for her to prevent rigging without email verification all the way back to King of /v/ 2021
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/580259005/#q580262273
No.92182
Anonymous
>>92166
Also, this one is pretty certain to be her cause two of those posts with the filename end up in the F-List general, and the later one (after tourneymaster) is within the same month as Tourneymaster. Kind of like they just waded through their folders to find it.
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>>92178
kek no
No.92184
Anonymous
The typing styles are different and NSA never changes her typing style
No.92185
Anonymous
I'm convinced you have to be an actual psychopath to want to host any tournament post-2019
No.92186
Anonymous
>>92184
Sure would be an odd coincidence for there to be TWO hosts who are Black Hat fans though.
No.92187
Anonymous
>>92184
Yeah, that's the only real weak link I feel. But there's still Grievous + the F-List connection
The F-List thing might actually be evidence that they do change it, but only sometimes
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/42030519/#42033927
This doesn't look anything like Tourneymaster's regular style and nothing like OFA either. But the filename and general timing match up.
No.92188
Anonymous
>>92184
Yeah I just noticed that too when inspecting the trip. I think this might just be a really unfortunate coincidence, although still worth considering.
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>mfw I just wanted to remind everyone of Tourneymaster the guy who started the Ms. /aco/ tournament
>mfw I unknowingly dig further into the endless NSA rabbit hole
No.92190
Anonymous
Replies:>>92192
>>92175
We knew she liked Grievous. She drew him and he is her discord picture.
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>STILL no word from the other hosts
WHERE ARE THEY
No.92192
Anonymous
>>92190
Yeah but we didn't know Tourneymaster did. That was the potential link. The only thing that seems to scathe the connection now is the typing style.
At the very least, Tourneymaster is some femanon who wants to cull men (unless they rape her)
Worst case, NSA/OFA is that instead.
No.92193
Anonymous
Replies:>>92195
>>92189
Pretty in-character for Tai Lung ngl
No.92194
Anonymous
>>92191
Host orgy.
No.92195
Anonymous
>>92189
>>92193
I hope KFP4 boosts him and Po in Mr. /co/
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There were multiple Black Hat campaigners specifically at the time (at least 2, maybe 3 or more), such as this one that replied to the post in question. This replying post very well could have been NSA instead of the linked one and the Tourneymaster might have just had made the worst coincidence ever with their post. NSA might have not even been involved in that chain of posts at all

You can't 100% confirm just yet but man
No.92197
Anonymous
The hosts are definitely being blackmailed by NSA.
No.92198
Anonymous
>>92196
This has to be NSA
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/125810050/#125813806
>God I would draw so much porn of Black Hat in a male tourney.
>I would pay to be in Dementia's place. My sultry, orney, prude boss flaunting that lovely figure. Turning me down at every request just to tease me. God damn. It's the chase that's fun.
We found out Tourneymaster wants to cull all men over nothing
No.92199
Anonymous
>>92198
>God damn
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
No.92200
Anonymous
>>92197
NSA already committed suicide and the other hosts are waiting in futility for the pastebin to be released
No.92202
Anonymous
Replies:>>92205
>>92198
It's worth saying horny fantasies aren't always people's actual real life desires. I'm all for hating NSA but I'm a bit wary of this derailing into something else.
No.92203
Anonymous
Replies:>>92204
I just wanted comfy character tournaments with all my bros why did we have to get stuck with such fucking messed up fags as hosts
No.92204
Anonymous
>>92203
>woman takes over man's hobby
>proceeds to ruin it with pointless drama and narcissism and changing it to suit herself
A tale as old as time
No.92205
Anonymous
>>92202
I agree, I'm just saying how a suspicion is all it took to find someone's personal shit
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Ok. I'm not really sure of what the implications of this could be, but the current topic of forgotten hosts got me thinking of Bateman. Remember him? The guy who offered himself to host the /v/ tourneys back at the end of the 2021 season and wanted to do a "Jester of /v/" tourney? He left without a trace and was never seen or heard from again.
BUT. HERE'S THE THING. Apparently, he planned to contact NSA via Discord at one point.
>>2423
>Bateman: First time posting on this site so forgive me if I make any mistakes. Jannies nuking two Afterparty threads in a row is really odd to me, it wasn't even 24 hours after the results. Hoping Jester goes without Janny interference
>Dominos: If you want to see NS and I's contact info from Discord (if you don't mind using a website like that for communication between partners), check the Mr /co/lympus has fallen thread for it. I've also told Night Shift anon about you but it seems they have yet to respond.
>Bateman: Late response, been busy over the holidays as well, but I'm sure everyone has been. I'll see if I can get in touch after Christmas, if not then early January.
This last message, I believe, was the last post we ever saw from Bateman.

And then, there's this totally unsuspicious post I found while skimming through old Mr. /co/ threads.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133586687/#133588776
No.92207
Anonymous
>>92206
Why the hell did NSA stop him?
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>>92206
I don't think either NSA or Dominos EVER gave a public explanation about Bateman's whereabouts. Why the hell did that anon know NSA stopped him, if they aren't NSA herself?
No.92209
Anonymous
Replies:>>92211
>>92208
tbf the guy could've been stopped by NSA not saying anything
Replies:>>92521
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>>92209
I really doubt that. Judging by Bateman's previous messages on /v/, he seemed REALLY eager to host the next /v/ tournaments without interference.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/username/bateman/tripcode/%20%21%211oZ9cTZTGE7/

How exactly could have NSA stopped him?
No.92212
Anonymous
>>92206
Bateman should have known this is NSA's tournament and not to cross her
No.92216
Anonymous
>>92206
Wasn't that guy the same anon who runs the Kinoplex? I assumed he either got busy or he was just baiting us (hence B8man), but being stopped by NSA doesn't sound too far-fetched.
Replies:>>92224
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>>92147
What the actual fuck, I've never seen a single anon have so much autism and lore around them. It's astonishing just how much shit NSA has dug herself into
No.92224
Anonymous
>>92221
what about Guy and Industryfag? fuck Industryfag even has lore exclusive to the Tournaments including pretending to be a goth chick in Mr 2022 and doing the whole campoon shit
No.92226
Anonymous
>>92224
Problem with Industryfag is too many people pretend to be him just to get a rise out of others. NSA is the opposite, she's pretended to be at least 4 completely people (NSA, Tourneymaster, OFA, muzzlefag). Also, industrycuck doesn't have power. NSA does, and far too much of it.
Replies:>>92253
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>Ladies and gentleman I have the unfortunate responsibly to let everyone know that Nightshift Anon tripped over and broke her neck, here tonight
>Haha that's right JR, Nightshift Anon was supposed to deliver a pastebin with all proof of her innocence only to die like that! Kek WHAT A BITCH HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Yes king she is indeed a dead bitch, and tonight will be remembered as one of the funniest moments in /tnt/ history
No.92228
Anonymous
>>92226
Tourneymaster just seems to have been a really unfortunate coincidence.
No.92231
Anonymous
Replies:>>92232
>>92226
>she's pretended to be at least 4 completely people (NSA, Tourneymaster, OFA, muzzlefag)
Don't forget when she faked the signatures of varios ficticious drawfags in the funeral magma. Or when she pretended to be multiple Wesker drawfags.
No.92232
Anonymous
>>92231
She probably faked some of those names, but at least when I looked in on it I do remember seeing multiple pens going at once
But man, why was she so stubborn about excluding Incredibly Gassy, that's Liveseys husband for crying out loud
No.92233
Anonymous
Honestly we will have to let go of the fantasy that NSA is going to be ousted by the other hosts, if it hasn’t happened already then it probably will never happen. And we know the hosts have inside knowledge into this matter so the inaction makes them culpable

So either they all go or no one goes
No.92235
Anonymous
>>92233
Hey, maybe they are just busy at the moment.
No.92236
Anonymous
>>92235
Nigga it’s been weeks
No.92237
Anonymous
>>92236
Samaritano at least mentioned being busy as to why he couldn't host Tag-team this year.
No.92238
Anonymous
>>92233
>>92235
>>92236
Don't forget Black Hand himself has practically abandoned his own site despite people trying to reach him out multiple times
No.92240
Anonymous
>>92238
Honestly at least Spideranon and Psy seem to be informed and aware.
No.92241
Anonymous
Replies:>>92242
>>92224
Guy is the only board person who exceeds NSA in documentation and that's because the schizo openly doxxed himself. Even then he's had a lot of imitators, what's interesting about NSA is outside funposters during tournament threads no posts are just people being her, it's posts from years prior being linked back due to similar trends
No.92242
Anonymous
>>92241
What's the context of Guy? I've seen that guy (no pun intended) sperging in some threads including way way back using some very crappy Ren and Stimpy drawings. What's the full context of this guy and the doxxing?
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This one opening post by NSA is kind of bizarre now, in hindsight.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621231517
No.92244
Anonymous
Industrycuck posting personal anecdotes about shitting himself to get out of a movie theatre was pretty funny.
No.92245
Anonymous
>>92238
He posted a few days ago on /baw/
No.92247
Anonymous
>>92242
I kind of lost track on the whole story surrounding guy, but in essence he was a failed artist who fell to mental illness and became obsessed with going on tirades against modern cartoons, part of that being influenced from reading John K.'s blog. He is also a former Homestuckfag (I would know, since he had the habit of showing up to the ocasional stealth thread from time to time) but he is mostly really infamous for his obnoxious rants and namefagging.
No.92249
Anonymous
>>92242
Guy is some teenage (maybe in his 20s now) schizo. Like not 4channers saying take meds when a dumb post is made but a full-scale schizo. Basically John K is the second coming of christ, every single thing he ever said in his blog is the gospel, and he was martyred by the industry so now he has to preach his word. Going into his posts are so varied, wild, and incoherent it would be impossible to break them all down. But it goes from everything from saying he raped his niece to he's going to be emailing the industry to blackmail 4chan posters.
>What's the full context of this guy and the doxxing?
No joke, he posted his Deviantart to "debunk" something and it included his full name and address. No one put any thought or effort into getting this information, he just posts it randomly out of the blue
No.92251
Anonymous
>>92233
Coayynon has been willing to speak and gave us a ton of information when he came here before Tag Team. >>76930 Just follow this conversation. Samaritanon also showed up later. >>82383 I don't know how much these two can be blamed when they only started hosting this year.
No.92252
Anonymous
>>92245
Fuck. I left a message for him now
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>>92227
tnt on saturday nights is collision tho.
No.92260
Anonymous
>>92233
Trip on NSA
No.92261
Black Hand ## Developer
>>92238
>>92245
I check the site every day, but I'm unable to read every single post on every board, if you have problems you have to post them in the support thread at /baw/.
No.92263
Anonymous
Replies:>>92281
>>92261
Can you comment on the current situation then?
No.92264
Anonymous
What do we even expect Black Hand to do? He has nothing to do with the hosts
No.92265
Anonymous
>>92264
No idea.
No.92266
Anonymous
>>92264
He should KILL Nightshift with the power of his Black Hand.
No.92267
Anonymous
>>92264
Does OFA have any confirmed posts on Plus4chan? He could confirm if they're from the same region or country as NightShift.
No.92268
Anonymous
Replies:>>92272
>>92264
...Maybe you should have thought of that before bringing him here.
No.92269
Anonymous
>>92261
Can you check the posts about OFA and NSA and confirm if the two are the same? Someone who pointed out said posts please do it here
No.92270
Anonymous
>>92264
People are desperate in a no-win situation
No.92271
Anonymous
Replies:>>92273
>>92269
He can only do it if OFA has any posts on this website. NSA has but I'm not sure OFA posted anything here.
No.92272
Anonymous
Replies:>>92275
>>92268
>...Of course that's what I would say in order to act cocky in front of my superiors who have discussed and mentioned the good reason to contact Black Hand
Done. Next.
No.92273
Anonymous
Replies:>>92276
>>92271
Someone in the early threads surrounding this drama mentioned OFA had posted here before
No.92274
Anonymous
Why do we need confirmation? NSA being OFA is literally a fact now. The bitch hasn't even posted the pastebin
No.92275
Anonymous
>>92274
Meant to reply to
>>92272
No.92276
Anonymous
Replies:>>92277
>>92273
Well, try to find the post then? Could be a true smoking gun.
No.92277
Anonymous
>>92276
I'll try just remembering who brought this first /v/ or the /co/ thread.
No.92278
Anonymous
>>92274
All I want is for one of the other hosts to just say NSA will not be hosting anymore, the pastebin isn't even necessary, as long as we never see from that nigger again I'm happy
No.92279
Anonymous
>>92274
This, there’s no way NSA can deny it now.
No.92281
Black Hand ## Developer
>>92263
I didn't follow the situation. Can you give me a rundown?

>>92269
Which posts do you want me to check?
No.92283
Anonymous
>>92281
NTA but are you planning to nominate Kane again? Co-op starts in Feb, 2
No.92286
Anonymous
Replies:>>92300
>>92281
I found them. It's a whole conversation. I think the thread covered it and the following too which is #2. If you need help we can provide you more information
>>77457
No.92293
Anonymous
>>92281
>Can you give a rundown?
NSA is worse than Stalin.
No.92294
Anonymous
So... if these aren't the same IP does this scandal end?
No.92295
Anonymous
Who’s gonna replace him? TempAnon? Numnuts?
No.92296
Anonymous
>>92294
Not really. Posters here have managed to hide their IPs from post to post through the use of a VPN or simple WiFi tricks like restarting the router. See Libbyfag.
No.92297
Anonymous
>>92294
Yeah.
No.92298
Anonymous
>>92294
Hell no, that would just mean NSA was using a VPN, there is absolutely nothing she can do because OFA was caught posting NSA’s discord account as her own in the archives.
No.92300
Black Hand ## Developer
>>92286
Please do provide more info, these threads are extremely long and happen across several boards and 2 sites, and you are asking me to look up info from a year or two in the past, so it's not exactly easy to follow.

All the 11xxx posts quoted there belong to the same person, presumably from Las Vegas using 2 different ISPs (T-Mobile and Cox) and frequently changing dynamic IPs. He isn't a regular poster here and his activity spikes during certain periods, I'm assuming he mostly visits when some tournaments are active. Posts mostly as Anonymous but sometimes as NightShift, Night shift or Night Shift (but notably never posted as "NightShiftAnon" as far as I can tell).
Notably on 2023-01-08 he posted from 01:04 till 22:48 with almost no breaks except for one between 16:09 to 20:52, which would mean he was up for practically the entire day.
No.92302
Anonymous
Replies:>>92314
>>92300
>>92300
The gist of it is there was strong suspicions and links that Nighshift was an artist known as OFA and nefarious behavior was being done by OFA and by extension then possible nefarious behavior by the host Nightshift. The important part I think is simply confirming those posts are from the same person, and it sounds like they are then.
>Las Vegas
I think NSA did confirm being on a western time zone before.
No.92303
Anonymous
Replies:>>92310
>>92300
Black Hand, as much as I can understand confirming who shares the posts since 4chan does that too sometimes when nuking spammers, did you have to share the location? Some people wanted to avoid going too far like straight up doxxing her.
No.92305
Anonymous
Replies:>>92306
>the NSA/OSA scandal is pretty much confirmed to be all true
welp
No.92306
Anonymous
Replies:>>92309
>>92305
It was confirmed the moment we found OFA posting NSA’s discord, this is just a bonus that’ll make it even more impossible for NSA to wiggle her way out.
No.92307
Anonymous
>>92300
>2023-01-08 he posted from 01:04 till 22:48
That was when Tag-team 2022 got banned on the main site, right?
No.92309
Anonymous
>>92306
There is no wiggling out of this at all. Even the fat-fetched family theory wouldn’t work cause it was clearly normal host NSA doing OFA art at the same time in the same thread. The case is pretty much shut beyond a doubt now.
No.92310
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>92311
>>92303
If someone causes problems to this site or its users, the rules stop applying.
No.92311
Anonymous
>>92310
I'm sorry, but I can't agree. What she did was wrong, but revealing her city doesn't make anything right.
No.92312
Anonymous
Replies:>>92328
>>92300
Would it be too much trouble to get a full view of her posting history/record here?
No.92314
Anonymous
>>92311
>white knighting over fucking NSA of all people
Oh get a grip will you? Knowing that NSA posts from Las Vegas isn't even that damning AND is a useful context clue as >>92302 has mentioned.
For the record NSA is a colossal nigger and deserves every last consequence that comes from his/her actions, but if this somehow leads to a dox then that's on NSA not Black Hat (who isn't even sharing this to "punish" NSA but because it's relevant information)
No.92315
Anonymous
>>92311
Honestly I gotta agree.
NSA has basically held the tournaments in a leash and has possibly made the tournaments illegitimate since 2021 and he’s probably the cause for the muzzle drawings but I don’t find reason to get her doxxed.
We already know way too much for her, we need her off the host team not off the internet.
No.92316
Anonymous
>>92311
I actually agree it's going a bit too far now, but just saying she's from Las Vegas isn't too damming.
No.92317
Anonymous
>>92311
Saying she’s from Las Vegas isn’t a big deal.
No.92318
Anonymous
>>92311
I agree but like other anons said a city isn’t really much.
No.92319
Anonymous
>>92314
>black hat
All the black hat/NSA links are fucking with my head I meant Black Hand, either way just knowing that NSA's IP is located in Las Vegas isn't the end of the world for NSA. That being said I remember saying something along the lines of "the longer NSA takes to just resign the more shit we're going to find" and let me tell you is that coming true. Assuming NSA hasn't actually killed him/herself or something, it would be wise to just fess up, resign, and never come back ever again, because hoo boy is it only going to continue getting worse.
Also I really wish the other hosts would show up soon so they can make a statement and we can lay this to rest, digging up dirt on NSA has been fun but it's past time for things to go back to normal
No.92321
Anonymous
>>92314
It's not white knighting. I want her gone too and helped with the investigation previously, but getting into locations that weren't shared publicly before beyond a vague western time zone mention just makes me uncomfortable.
No.92322
Anonymous
So we can confirm they're posting from the same region too at least.
>>92311
Having an IP doesn't dox a house, all it tells us is that OFA and NSA get their IP from the same place.
Replies:>>92521
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>>92321
Speaking as a guy who's pretty into IT, you're always putting yourself in the crosshairs on this site if you try to stir up shit.
But even with that, NSA isn't "doxxed", all this does in effect is let us know he posts from the same region. I could apply the same circumstances here to myself and
>I'd be a guy who lives in a European country, shifts between home network and mobile data depending on where I am, mostly on two different devices
>IP is traced to wherever my ISP hands it out, which is either in my local town, which is right next to a local city, or from a 5G/4G tower in the vicinity which still puts it basically in the city. This is unless I use a VPN which can get complicated depending on if the site allows certain VPNs or requires you to go all out with proxies and shit
>City has hundreds of thousands in it and more surrounding, since I don't have crosshairs on myself it's not possible to know who I am unless I slip out a bunch of clues
>Since I'm not starting shit, people can only know I'm near one of the larger cities in a European country if they got ahold of two posts from the different devices
Effectively speaking, all it can possibly prove is that NSA is OFA or they are from the same region which knocks all the nails into the coffin of the case, since all the coincidences become highly improbable.
If he's gonna get doxxed because of this he'd basically have to start doing it himself.
No.92324
Anonymous
Replies:>>92329
Also, does NSA have any other names attached/associated to herself other than OFA? It'd be preferable to avert a Numnuts type situation where they just pick up a new identity, if someone else got to helm the tourneys I'd prefer it if we didn't have that kind of shitshow.
If they posted on Plus4chan we could also know if they were on the same location (but if they aren't, we don't need to hear where they're from, since we should have some courtesy)
No.92326
Anonymous
>Less then 100 miles from Area 51
Bros, maybe they weren't lying about the job...
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>>92314
>For the record NSA is a colossal nigger and deserves every last consequence that comes from his/her actions
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>>92312
Difficult to do that accurately, there are a lot of entangled sessions and IPs (you will see why), I only posted the ones of which I'm 100% sure. Not all of the IPs point to Las Vegas either. I got the most hits on Las Vegas and some on Henderson (Nevada), Phoenix (Arizona), a few on Los Angeles and Riverside (California), and an odd one out in Chaska (Minnesota) for one day only. The time it takes between posts also correspond to how long it would take to change locations, as far as I can tell without creating detailed breakdowns. So it is likely the person is either regularly commuting or at least traveling around the area (which also means using a phone or laptop). This is assuming the IP addresses have not been reassigned yet in the past 3 years. And one of the posts he/she made mentions something about having classes, so possibly college, which would explain the traveling.

>>92311
Uh-huh. Your ISP matches the one NSA uses and while the city does not (Detroit), we know that NSA travels frequently and sometimes goes as far as the Midwest, sometimes resets sessions, and replies to themselves as Anonymous. Now this doesn't mean anything concrete, but, you know, eyebrows are getting raised.
No.92329
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>92521
>>92324
>Also, does NSA have any other names attached/associated to herself other than OFA?
Doesn't look like it unless I missed something.
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>>92311
>>92328
>tfw NSA has been in these threads and actively engaging in them.
No.92332
Anonymous
>>92328
Well, at least there's now confirmation NSA was samefagging in that specific thread, meaning switching Chel and Shirley's spots was another thing she astroturfed.
No.92333
Anonymous
Replies:>>92347
NIGHTSHIT POST YOUR FUCKING PASTEBIN RESPONSE
No.92334
Anonymous
>>92328
The location seems to match between a few of the OFA and NSA posts at least, then?
By the way, do you track stuff on cookies? I know 4chan does, that's how it detects ban evasion among other things. It'd make it easier to weed stuff like this out.
No.92335
Anonymous
Replies:>>92339
Also, something else I wanna know. How common are the T-Mobile and Cox ISPs on this site anyhow? I know the USA has issues with providers trying to choke out competition so it muddies things if they are one of the more common ISPs used to have sessions with the website.
No.92336
Anonymous
Replies:>>92338
>>92311
Trip on, Nightshift. Say hi to Rick from Pawn Stars!
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>>92335
>it muddies things if they are one of the more common ISPs used to have sessions with the website.

Yes. Case in point: there is in fact at least one other person posting in the thread, also located in the midwest with the same ISP. But the post times are too close for them to be the same person as the detroit white knight, plus he is arguing the exact other side. It's possible neither of them are NSA, but it's not impossible that one of the two of them is NSA.
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Nightshift this is just getting stupid. Personally, I think we escalated too far well before the actual DEVELOPER OF /TNT/ got involved, but what do you expect? Anons want the truth, and they're hungrier than Jiren for it. I know you want to hold onto power somehow, but it's just not happening. If you just show up to host Ms. /co/ come September nobody will even care about the actual contests. It's just going to be anons less in the know about this stuff panicking and wondering if their big wins and losses are legitimate.
Personally, I'm past the point of anger, in time I've cooled off. But I haven't forgotten either, having a host that both has blatant favoritism, deletes votes and forms that go against the favoritism, and using hosting privileges to antagonize and attack people that don't like you is exactly what a host SHOULDN'T be doing. Just fess up, tell the truth, and take a break from /tnt/ and 4chan for a while and work out your attitude issues. It'll be good for you. It's not worth all of this, everybody wants to just move forward except you for some reason.
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A crucial detail in this investigation most of us are aware of but I'm going to assume Black hand doesn't yet is how NSA/OFA has a very specific typing style she has shown to be incapable of concealing or altering even while posting under her trip. The Detroit anon posts' >>92311 >>92321 don't fit it.
No.92342
Anonymous
>>92339
So the white knight might not be NSA, but the old 11xxx posts still most probably are, which is what's important since it's a real link.
I was almost beginning to wondering if she masquerades as other hosts too, but since none of them share typing style I don't think that's likely. It'd just be done to mark them as "safe" anyway.
No.92343
Anonymous
Replies:>>92344
>>92341
>>92342
Maybe she finally figured out how to have a different typing style.
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>>92343
Well, we were floating the idea with the Tourneymaster connection, but there's no way to actually be certain unless you look at literally every NSA post to observe some kind of deviation.
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>>92342
>I was almost beginning to wondering if she masquerades as other hosts too
Same thing here. Furthermore, since most if not all of our current hosts have posted here with their names at one point, Black Hand should be able to clear up any suspicion we might have in this regard. I remember Balls specifically alluded to living in the UK.
No.92346
Anonymous
>>92345
Yeah. Please don't say where they live though, just say if they're in Las Vegas and on the same ISP(s) or not.
No.92347
Anonymous
Replies:>>92348
>>92328
>>92330
>>92331
>>92333
>>92341
>Your ISP matches the one NSA uses
I'm being 100% honest with you anons. have no idea how and I swear to God I'm not NSA. I was sleeping the past few hours and just saw all of this. Secondly, you looked at my ISP because I was concerned? I said I want her gone too.
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>>92347
Don't worry too much. We defused it earlier here
>>92339
>>92342
The main issue with these clues is finding something that conclusively ties to NSA (which the 11xxx posts do) without any kind of plausible ambiguity.
So for now, we're just in the paranoid phase where we try to see what else they've been up to as far as I'm concerned. ...Also trying to safety check the other hosts from being samefags, if possible.
No.92349
Anonymous
>>92348
>Don't worry too much. We defused it earlier here
But I don't know how to feel about the fact Black Hand went straight to saying my location too because I was concerned. I'll be direct and say it did prove it doesn't give an accurate location, but I'm really hurt by this as stupid as that sounds.
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>>92339
I went through the catalog to try and find (most) of the previous tournament hosts. Might almost seem schizophrenic but I don't wanna leave stones unturned. Some of these guys have their own marks of shame, but making sure none of them are NSA would still be helpful. If they don't share region or ISP, no need to mention where they're from.
>Brackets !!YdiqJxUX6gs ( >>1956 )
>tourney anon (no trip >>1371 )
>Dominos Anon !w86bRI0tYM ( >>1417 )
>stats anon !!dA/z1Ht3uFj ( >>726 )
>[TempAnon] !vHqM1sfAlM ( >>6972 )
>Numnuts Anon !0f1ZB4Rf.A ( >>6572 )
>KawaiiSenpai !A4jsQTgi.Q ( >>9103 )
>fake [TempAnon] ( >>9651 )
>nu[TempAnon] !dR6QoT3xhI ( >>13720 )
>Ballsanon !th0DR5qBxs (old trip?) ( >>13816 )
>Ballsanon !uRPRozIDdg (new trip?) ( >>14463 )
>Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw ( >>30857 )
>Samaritanon !!0q4n9L7G/iU ( >>39306 )
And of course, Nightshift/OFA as per the 11xxx posts.
Ballsanon left mysteriously at the beginning of King /v/, but I wonder if he's been posting as Anonymous since or just stopped caring about tournaments all together. However, as long as he's not from Vegas and is in fact British like he implied it's probably fine.
>>92349
You have a right to be, but we can't really tell him what to do here, just ask nicely.
How is the Detroit area anyway?
No.92351
Anonymous
>>92350
>nu[TempAnon]
Ah shit, I messed this one up.
Should be >>13562
No.92352
Anonymous
Replies:>>92355
>>92350
Also, I don't have Penisanon or Ghost's /tnt/ posts or trips anywhere. Anybody know where they've posted?
Replies:>>92354
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you guys may not like him/her but doxxing hosts to see if they're NSA is wrong
No.92354
Anonymous
>>92353
I mean, i wouldn't call matching the ISPs a true dox. If they're not on either, their whereabouts are pointless.
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>>92352
Ghost gave us confirmation a while ago they are the same person as Dominos. I believe this >>80951 is them.
I don't think PenisAnon ever posted here with a trip/name. I only have his archived posts across both /co/ and /v/.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/tripcode/%21KoAd713y0Q/page/1/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/tripcode/%21KoAd713y0Q/page/1/
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>>92355
Well, better than nothing.
But if neither of them are on T-mobile or Cox then their location's don't matter.
Maybe you could actually confirm the Ghost-Dominos connection, but they haven't done anything nefarious to warrant it, that'd be actual doxxing.
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Well, for lack of anything else happening, I'm currently tredging the archives to sate my curiosity.
So far
>NSA watched Steven Universe and doesn't like it
>goes/went to /utg/ on /vg/ circa 2020
Who knows how that might have impacted brackets, but stay tuned.
No.92358
Anonymous
>>92350
Yes Black Hand please minimize mentioning as much personal info as possible. Just a confirmation should do.
No.92359
Anonymous
Replies:>>92360
>>92357
>>NSA watched Steven Universe and doesn't like it
damn we should keep her
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>>92359
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.cgl.co.d.fit.g.his.int.k.m.mlp.mu.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg/filename/1569312865745/
Maybe. But they also go to /trash/ to salivate over Undertale goats.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/image/7A101TSd2dbAx2AdWg3r9w/
https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/boards/qb.v.vg.vm.vmg.vp.vrpg.vst/image/7A101TSd2dbAx2AdWg3r9w/
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Alrigh, I have been able to directly talk with Dominos Anon / Ghost via Discord. Assuming they are being honest, supposedly they were still in the dark about most of the investigation until just now, not having talked with any other member of the hosting team (including NSA) since the beginning of January. They should be posting a statement here in a minute.
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>>92362
Good on ya, Ema. Hopefully this case goes well cause we need the money. I may or may not have enough to fully pay rent for the office... and buy your snacks.
No.92364
Ghost !!Oo4T4nqR2jB
>>92362
Alright, I'm here.

Can someone give me a rundown of what's happened with NSA?
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>>92364
ISP and region got checked, so the suspected artist-host connection seems real.
>>92300
No.92367
Anonymous
>>92360
This also seems to indicate they went to /vp/ during 2019.
https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/image/-RRlOY6DhI2hd-kq-fV6Cw/
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Talking to NSA now.
No.92370
Anonymous
Replies:>>92378
>>92369
We aren't calling them tourneymaster actually, that was a dud.
We are still calling them OFA though, the ISPs check out.
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The last confirmed sighting I have of NSA is from 2023-11-01, it is entirely possible he/she hasn't been on the site since then and you are all just pissing in the wind. It's possible he started a new session since and I'm not aware of it, but he doesn't look like a regular poster and only visiting periodically so I wouldn't be surprised if he really hasn't been around.

>>92350
Oh you've gotta be kidding me. Keep in mind I have to look this up manually per IP per session, this takes hours. And everyone on the list posts as Anonymous most of the time, which is to be expected. Occasionally you also have one poster using the name of another or a slight variation of it as jokes, which is also to be expected.

>Brackets
99% sure it's an older session of NightShift. Posting from Phoenix, and it seems they used CenturyLink, but then the last few posts are using Cox, and the timeline ends exactly when his next session begins.

>Dominos Anon !w86bRI0tYM ( >>1417 )
I'm seeing at least 3 locations, one from the gun state, and at least two others from northwest but I didn't check when he made those, could be traveling or it could be the IP got reassigned to a different location since. Can confirm he is Ghost.

>stats anon !!dA/z1Ht3uFj ( >>726 )
Also posted with tripcode !!vuujyjvMlcT, but the session ends in 2021 September, I don't know if he posted since then.

>[TempAnon] !vHqM1sfAlM ( >>6972 )
>fake [TempAnon] ( >>9651 )
>nu[TempAnon] !dR6QoT3xhI ( >>13720 )
also [TempAnon] !1HtdnWR3ho, [TempAnon] !dR6QoT3xhI, Samaritranon !j1803/jbIc and !w/iMMbzm.M (one post only each). The majority of his posts are from the same location, a few are from mobile, one or two are from another continent but that could be for a number of reasons. He is still active as of this thread.

>tourney anon
>Numnuts Anon !0f1ZB4Rf.A ( >>6572 )
>KawaiiSenpai !A4jsQTgi.Q ( >>9103 )
Same person

>Ballsanon !th0DR5qBxs (old trip?) ( >>13816 )
>Ballsanon !uRPRozIDdg (new trip?) ( >>14463 )
Same person, last active in 2023 December
At one point he posted as "stats" (just "stats", not "stats anon", and no tripcode), but that was a year later after Stats was last seen, so they are obvious joke posts.

>Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw ( >>30857 )
Nothing special to see here other than that he has been posting since the first tourneys and up to this thread.

>Samaritanon !!0q4n9L7G/iU ( >>39306 )
Also posted here since the first tourneys and up to this thread. Seems to post exclusively from VPNs.

>>92349
You are overthinking it. Nobody cares as long as you stop being a cunt about the issue.
No.92372
Anonymous
Replies:>>92373
>>92371
Alright, sorry to bother you with the lookups.
>Brackets is an older session of NightShift
Huh?
At least Ghost seems to be trve so no reason to doubt him on anything.
Seems to also confirm that Balls is actually gone and didn't just go anon.
No.92373
Anonymous
Replies:>>92376
>>92372
Shoot, maybe Balls passed away for real.
No.92374
Anonymous
Stop harassing the owner of this site with autistic requests lmao
No.92376
Anonymous
Replies:>>92378
>>92373
what?
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If someone has a plan to bar Peridot anon without using email verification, I'd love to hear it.
No.92378
Anonymous
Replies:>>92380
>>92374
I'm not gonna ask for more, anon. I'd buy him a drink if I could.
But anyway, the ISP/region connect to NSA/OFA appears to be real.
>>92369
>>92370
If you're going to say anything to NSA it's that the technical data tells us he's the artist who tried to co-opt SHODAN's campaign, spammed a lot about Amaterasu and etcetera etcetera... Of course, he could just say he isn't but this isn't some hunch, it's relevant internet connectivity data.
>>92376
Balls just went away at the start of King /v/, permanently, and he said it was due to a complication that most likely had to do with real life.
No.92379
Anonymous
>>92374
NSAbro btw
No.92380
Black Hand ## Developer
>>92374
I'm here to serve.

>>92378
>I'm not gonna ask for more, anon. I'd buy him a drink if I could.

Matter of fact is you can, see the announcement at the top of the page.
No.92382
Anonymous
Replies:>>92402
>>92377
Ghost, I don't want to come across as rude, but you are really, REALLY fucking naive if you are going to take NSA's word at face value, without even bothering to meticulously inspect the evidence and connections we have compiled, especially when it has been available to you for weeks now.
No.92384
Anonymous
Replies:>>92389
>>92380
>Matter of fact is you can, see the announcement at the top of the page.
I might go ahead and do it via Patreon once my paycheck's in then. At least give enough for a pack of beer or something.
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>>92360
>>92367
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621613303/#621614289
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621613303/#621615116
NSA appears to be weirdly defensive in these old King of /v/ posts in response to an anon questioning her over the validity of the final results of Ko/v/ 2022.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621606560/#621607682
No.92386
Anonymous
>>92380
I don't want you to reveal nothing besides if both share similarities but can you check Cumslut and Niggerookanon?
>>75948
>>91337
Don't reveal just share if they are indeed the same
No.92387
Anonymous
Replies:>>92389
Black Hand are you gonna participate in /co-op/ on February 2nd?
No.92388
Anonymous
>>92386
Forgot to say, to make sure they aren't Numnuts
No.92389
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>92394
>>92384
Much appreciated!

>>92387
I'll check it if I don't forget about it. Lot of things may happen till then.
No.92390
Anonymous
Replies:>>92402
>>92364
>>92369
>>92377
By the way, Ghost. Could NSA offer this >>92340 anon a direct response?
No.92391
Anonymous
>>92350
unrelated but I think Clinton AND BottomAnon are also Nightshift.
No.92392
Anonymous
No.92393
Anonymous
>>92391
How come?
No.92394
Anonymous
Replies:>>92396
No.92395
Anonymous
>everyone is AFK the moment one of the hosts finally decides to make act of presence
No.92396
Anonymous
>>92386
>>92394
No one knows who they are, this is the first time I've heard either name, and I don't know why you're expecting them to know who they are either without linking to their posts
No.92397
Anonymous
>>92396
Anon, he literally linked their posts.
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>>92395
Yeah, I don't get it either.
Especially after the ISP link on the 11xxx posts were revealed.
I myself didn't really take part in this investigation before the Tourneymaster stuff (even if it was a dud), which I looked into out of boredom.
I would've thought the real detectives here would be more lively after I pushed to ask Black Hand to check through any confirmed /tnt/ OFA posts for a connection to NSA.
>>92396
He did link their posts, actually. Check >>92396
No.92399
Anonymous
>>92398
Or rather, check >>92386
Replies:>>92409
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>>92391
I seriously doubt that. Inspecting their posting history on 4chan doesn't reveal anything that could potentially link either of them to NSA, as least as far as I have seen. Are you suspicious of them because of NSA's known insistence to revitalize thread activity?

>>92398
I'm here, but there's not much I can do right now beyond rereading more old threads. This >>92385 at least seems to reinforce the suspicion NSA might have effectively tampered with the King of /v/ 2022 results, given the connection with Wesker's artist/OFA.
No.92402
Ghost !!Oo4T4nqR2jB
>>92390
No. NSA is flawed and did some things wrong but I still don't see valid evidence for going that far. If they did crap like deleting legitimate votes then me and the others would've caught on. We have access to the voter sheets. We're not stupid.

>>92382
I don't lurk in these threads. I don't know the whole story. NSA is my friend and yelling at them won't get me anywhere. If I was truly sucking up to them then I wouldn't be posting these Discord messages live for you guys to see.
No.92403
Anonymous
>>92395
I'm honestly just sick of this whole drama and would rather focus on Co-op and /cov/
No.92404
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>92405
>>92396
>>92386
I don't see anything noteworthy about those two (they look like they are separate people).
No.92405
Anonymous
Replies:>>92408
>>92404
Thanks. I guess Numnuts just vanished then. Just needed to clarify since I wasn't comfortable with the idea Cumslut has a discord group helping him.
No.92406
Anonymous
Replies:>>92407
>NSA is my friend
Geez, if NSA being a woman is anything to go by then I can see the reason she's protected like this
No.92407
Anonymous
>>92406
Dominos / Ghost goes by she/her according to her Discord, by the way.
No.92408
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>92412
>>92405
Numnuts was last seen exactly a month ago (to the hour).

And I think I'm done listing more user info.
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>>92400
Since you're much more involved in this, I'd suggest trying to give Ghost here a proper abridging of the relevant evidence.
Including the recent ISP (internet service provider)/region match, since it's actual concrete evidence that takes away a lot of improbability about everything being discussed.
Replies:>>92435
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>>92402
>We have access to the voter sheets. We're not stupid.
Why not reveal them so we can look at them ourselves.
No.92412
Anonymous
Replies:>>92413
>>92408
Thanks for the help man. We apologize if we pressured you. The last seeks have been so filled with revelations and clues that were hard to ignore we needed just one last piece of evidence and now it's complete thanks to you. Hope you're having a good day.
No.92413
Anonymous
>>92412
*weeks
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>>92407
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I dunno why Ghost doesn't want to share these screenshots here with you guys, but here are more messages from NSA. Can confirm she goes by TabithaTwitchitt and that Grievous is her icon.
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>>92407
>>92414
Proof.
No.92419
Anonymous
Replies:>>92422
>>92416
How did you get a hold of this?
No.92420
Anonymous
>>92414
It's ironic you posted her because I was thinking lesbians. It's not that likely, but I thought it was funny.
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>>92407
you mean Nightshift and Domino/Ghost are two chicks?
cool
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>>92419
I was curious about what the hell was going on with the radio silence from the other hosts, so I went and made a Discord account, tried my luck sending a friend request to Cookies-Chicken#7914, et voilà.
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>>92416
>/tnt/ wants so badly to have every update they don't need to be privy to.
The update in question? Nightshift's plans to rig Quint & Rebecca to 1st place in co-op.
Replies:>>92430
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I can't believe NSA is STILL in Denial over this, holy moly.
Well, last chance to claim a bingo line since it seems like her hand is forced
No.92425
Anonymous
>>92421
I mean they do have similar taste in men (Black Hat for Nightshift, Alastor for Domino), fuck I’m shocked we don't even have a tumblr sexy man winner yet (in tournaments they hosted in)
No.92426
Anonymous
>>92395
I guess the latest reveal is really just confirming with near certainty what was already pretty obvious.
No.92427
Anonymous
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No.92429
Anonymous
>>92425
They’ve explained the reasoning when they had their tripcodes disabled.

Basically, if their main wins they won’t have the opportunity to draw for them ever again. While if their main does relatively well and loses in round 3 or 4 then it can just come back for the next year.
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>>92424
Wow, already really close from just the discord messages and no pastebin. Only one away!
No.92431
Anonymous
Replies:>>92434
>>92429
>While if their main does relatively well and loses in round 3 or 4 then it can just come back for the next year.
...That actually can serve as a reason as to why NSA/OFA has seemingly only persecuted characters and fanbases when her mains lost to them in Elite Eight.
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>>92429
Well that's shitty reasoning, the point of the game is to play it to win. It's not an artist circlejerk and it shouldn't be. If you happen to also really like the character your main is going against and want to make a friendly match out of it (Xavier/Dale, Wario/Eggman, Brisby/Fang, Midna/Amaterasu etc) I don't see anything wrong with that, but you shouldn't try to actively lose. Remember, artfags are only a fraction of the voters, you can't possibly speak for all of them so they'd be really pissed if you sabotaged their desires as well
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>>92431
>Gave Ammy shit for beating Bayonetta
>Gave Skeletor shit for beating Zim
>Gave AM shit for beating Wesker
>Switched to Midna after everybody celebrated Hornet beating Glados
She's terribly consistent in this
No.92435
Ghost !!Oo4T4nqR2jB
>>92411
(Nightshift anon's words, not mine:)
"The entire point of not showing the sheets is to make sure nobody knew who rigged."

I haven't really participated in it but the hosts go into sheets to delete votes of characters who are clearly rigging. It's part of the Shirley clause. If we showed the actual votes I worry we'd have another Shirley/Chel/Fang situation. It's why showing results can take a while in the real tourney.

>>92416
Because I didn't want their privacy getting violated over a fictional character tournament. But I guess it's not like it matters now. Because NSA's mentioned they are not going to post on plus4chan anymore. If you guys want an official response, you'll have to check /co/ for it in the future.

>>92425
I'm not even that into Alastor anymore since Hazbin Hotel is out. He's lost the charm that made pilot Alastor so special to me.
Replies:>>92462
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>>92435
>"The entire point of not showing the sheets is to make sure nobody knew who rigged."
So NSA can rig it instead?
This is the only logical conclusion. And no, I am not being a dickhead about it, NSA has constantly shown to be a liar and we don't have the luxury to trust him, something that you have.
Words won't help anything. We want the voting sheets not words.
No.92438
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
Replies:>>92450
Apologies for the silence btw. I have been following the whole thing. There was simply nothing I felt I could say until at least NSA's pastbin response came. Samaritanon is mostly aware, though maybe not of the latest developments.
Replies:>>92462
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>>92435
>will post only on the main site where it could only exist as a stealth thread, is subject to archiving or pruning, and will probably follow the usual habit of posting the most important matters when the thread is on autosage at page 9 at 2 in the morning
Tell Nightshift she's a cowardly rigger and we know with proof she made both muzzle drawings+had huge melties when her mains lost. We aren't accepting her hosting anymore. If she tries, most of us just aren't going to even entertain her main site polls, let her enjoy having 50-voter tournaments. Loonachad by the way.
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>>92435
>Because I didn't want their privacy getting violated over a fictional character tournament.
We literally knew beforehand that her username was TabithaTwitchitt. There is literally nothing to hide, we know 100% that NSA is OFA without a single drop of doubt.
No.92443
Anonymous
>>92435
>both the Explosivas anon and Dominos said that they don't care for the characters they previously campaigned for now that Hazbin is out
Damn, was it that bad?
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MODOK SWEEP
No.92446
Anonymous
>>92443
it was serviceable like eating plain spaghetti, yeah it doesn't have that much flavor but it's still good (as long as the spaghetti is salted when boiled) and it doesn't give an aftertaste
No.92447
Anonymous
how many hosts are actually female anyways? we joked that Temp was one before but now we have two that are definitely women
No.92450
Anonymous
Replies:>>92453
>>92438
Interesting. Does the pastebin still seem like something that's coming?
No.92453
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
>>92450
Well there's this response >>92416
If it is it isn't going to be here. They were already very scornful of this board.
No.92454
Anonymous
>>92453
>They were already very scornful of this board
Ah? They were?
No.92455
Anonymous
>>92453
Huh. So we just gotta twiddle our thumbs and wait for a stealth /co/ thread? This stinks
Also the absolute audacity of NSA to STILL deny this shit, also the audacity that she never once wanted to defend OFA, only herself
No.92456
Anonymous
Replies:>>92458
>>92455
Literally what could they say at this point anyways?
No.92457
Anonymous
>>92455
we already have a stealth /co/ thread
No.92458
Anonymous
>>92456
>"EEEEEEH UH AH UH UUUUH fuck all of you".
Something like that.
No.92460
Anonymous
>>92435
You're still the same you were when you screwed King of /v/ 2021. Good.
Replies:>>92473
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Done. Its now NSA's turn to return his part of the deal.
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/141822666
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>>92437
I know you're not. But the situation is complicated for someone like me. Which voting sheet are you asking for, and what are you checking it for?

>>92439
Lucky for you, NSA might take a break from hosting after all this. (Except maybe mr co, they love that one)

Me and the others will figure something out, and if anyone wants to step up that isn't a tard, go for it.

>>92443
It's mediocre at worst. Alastor uses modern lingo in his song with Vox and I don't like it. Doesn't help that Al's new voice actor acts like a child on Twitter.
No.92463
Anonymous
>>92462
>Lucky for you, NSA might take a break from hosting after all this. (Except maybe mr co, they love that one)
>Me and the others will figure something out, and if anyone wants to step up that isn't a tard, go for it.
Sounds up my alley, since my main concern was always the /v/ tournaments. Since that other guy (cumslut was his name, I think) wanted to practice to try and run it, this sounds like a decent opportunity to get someone from /v/ to finally head it.
Replies:>>92470
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>>92462
>Which voting sheet are you asking for, and what are you checking it for?
There's different questions from every anon but my personal question is the Mr. /co/ 2023 semi-finals.
Replies:>>92469
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>>92462
I mean good, NSA doesn't really fuck up Mr compared to the other tournaments
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>>92462
>Except maybe mr co, they love that one
*blink* Wow, I really wonder why she loves that one.
No.92467
Anonymous
>>92462
I preferably want her gone permanently from the tournaments.
No.92469
Anonymous
>>92462
Why were these documents from Queen of /v/ 2023 deleted? >>77791 Can we see the forms for those rounds?
Also Queen of /v/ 2022 Finals, King of /v/ 2022 Semi-finals, Ms. /co/ 2023 Semi-finals, Queen of /v/ 2023 Round 4 (ideally i'd like to see all the forms but these ones in particular stand out)
>>92465
Mr. /co/ is GOING to be fucked up if NSA is hosting it if nothing else over the outrage he'd still be a host in the first place. All that comfy OC and discussion? Gone, and in its place its thread is unusable funpost-filled threads ie Losers Finals. Granted it would be an interesting turn of events seeing Mr. /co/ be the shittiest tournament of the year, but I sure don't want that and I hope you don't either
No.92470
Anonymous
Replies:>>92471
>>92464
Why that one? Is it because of the Zim vs Optimus close-call?
Replies:>>92485
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>>92470
Guessed it
I know that NSA is OFA and there is genuine favoritism around Zim and I want to see if there really is a result change by how much. I'd also like to see what the voting sheets on every tournament finals in 2022 and 2023 were
No.92473
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
>>92461
You're unlikely to get a response. NSA just told me they are dealing with emergencies in life and don't have time.
No.92474
Anonymous
>>92473
>NSA just told me they are dealing with emergencies in life and don't have time.
How fucking long does it take to say "Sorry I'm fucked. Bye"
No.92478
Anonymous
Replies:>>92481
All these detective and law related characters + silver? My heroes.
Replies:>>92483
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>>92377
I've had a couple in mind. First and foremost, the key I've been beating for a long while of mathematical vote sheet analysis, which while interesting for me has some caveats I'm well aware of. Plus takes some time to learn, I've had my sights on the use of AI for fraud detection (yes that's a thing) but the material needed to learn plus code is a doozy. There's some other analytical ways too.

If user validation is verification is something you really, really want (and I do concede it's likely more accurate) one thing I've mildly looked at is pseudo anonymous data collection websites do. You can get quite a bit of info that can identify a user, and for a population tiny as voting sessions are (relatively, less than a thousand to at most a couple of thousand), rudimentary methods, which are those more easily available could suffice. That does, however, come with the obvious con of needing to make and host a website, plus the power centralization of the power of it on a single admin.

With that said, this is really a more general rigging detection thing, Perifag, as far as I've seen, is too much of a dumbass to warrant much worry. A non-dumbass could bypass the email shtick easily. Plus, y'know, he's loud and targeted on Peridot. Ergo with something's afoot with votes relating to her, you know who it is.
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>WHERE'S THE PASTEBIN MANSLEY?
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>>92478
heroes? they're just throwing around accusations and acting like they're in the right despite doing heinous acts because a host hurt their feelings, next they'll be doxing the silent majority
No.92482
Anonymous
>>92473
>heh... i'm not going to address any of the evidence on /tnt/, that'll show those losers
>"ok then here's a stealth thread on /co/ enjoy"
>OH FUCK I DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXCUSES READY, SUDDENLY I HAVE AN EMERGENCY SORRY GOTTA GO
This reminds me of the Ms. /co/ 23 finals where NSA suddenly had to come up with the road excuse to buy time for like 4 hours after being found out that the losers bracket decision was falsely announced
Can NSA stop stalling and just quit already? The faggot's not hosting anymore after this one way or another, might as well just rip off the band-aid and get it over with for everyone's sake
No.92483
Anonymous
>>92479
>With that said, this is really a more general rigging detection thing, Perifag, as far as I've seen, is too much of a dumbass to warrant much worry.
That's because NSA has been using Perifag as a boogeyman.
No.92484
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
Replies:>>92495
>>92482
They adamantly continue to maintain innocence. I can best assume they really do intend a real defense at some point.
No.92485
Anonymous
Replies:>>92668
>>92471
Reminder Perifag was openly rooting for Zim given the character is basically Peridot's main influence, so if there was anything cheating I'd see it more in a "looking the other way with cheating because I like the character" vs NSA directly cheating for them
No.92486
Anonymous
Man, how hard can it possibly be to get this absolute clown off the hosting team.
Replies:>>92490
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I do not care about the pastebin. When, or if, the pastebin drops, I am not going to read it. I have already made up my mind about NSA being a quintuple faggot riggernigger who must be kept as far away from the tournaments as possible.
No.92490
Anonymous
>>92487
Plastic CHAD being based as usual
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>>92481
>t. Johanshift
I see through you, Quint.
No.92495
Anonymous
>>92484
When is "at some point"? At this rate it feels like NSA is going to keep dodging the issue and refusing to make any kind of explanation until Ms. /co/ and by then just says "oh looks like i'm hosting anyways, all your concerns are thrown out, what the fuck anon gonna do about it?"
What will it take you and the other hosts (yes dominos that includes you if you're reading this) to agree to remove NSA? What is the "NSA shouldn't host anymore" condition for you? We have CONCRETE proof that NSA is OFA (which NSA continues to lie to you about for some reason), we have proof that OFA(NSA) has been consistently smear campaigning and falseflagging in the threads, we have proof NSA has been lying about countless issues brought up both related and unrelated to this drama, we have strong supporting evidence to back up the claim that NSA has been rigging matches, and if nothing else NSA's decision to hide the forms results of matches is causing way more problems than it is solving.
You've been following the threads, yes? Then what is still redeeming NSA as a host in your eyes? If NSA is your friend fine but hosting clearly is not good for NSA or for the community that the position of host is supposed to be volunteered for in the first place. That's what being a host is supposed to be about in the first place, it's not done "because you enjoy it" (not saying you can't) but to volunteer on behalf of what the community wants, and it's pretty clear what the community unanimously wants is absolutely nothing to do with NSA or the things NSA has been doing. The tournaments are held once a year, it should be an opportunity for the board to come together and have a good time together sharing discussion and content about their favorite characters, hence I don't want to wait a year just for the event to come and be nothing but outrage and drama and people not enjoying themselves at all, which is what we'll get if NSA still hosts not because anyone wants that but because he/she "enjoys" it.
Even then, NSA enjoys campaigning and drawfagging yes? Surely he/she will have more time to focus on having fun with that instead of being embroiled in host drama, so it's not even a punishment for NSA to be removed as host, if anything it'd likely be the better option for NSA. If you're NSA's friend, think on that for a moment.
No.92496
Anonymous
The archived Discord mentions and IP checks seem like way worse evidence than anything prior. Not sure how you get out of this.
No.92497
Anonymous
>>92495
This.
No.92500
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
Replies:>>92503
>>92495
I simply can't do anything about this alone. There needs to be consensus from the others. Communication between us is not often quick. Penis hasn't even been around since King. Until then I think it's best I maintain cordiality about the whole thing. If the time comes I may have more to say about it.
No.92502
Anonymous
>The only thing stopping NSA from being ousted is the other hosts being AWOL
Well, at least there’s still hope.
No.92503
Anonymous
>>92500
He's right. You guys are just impatient. I'm sure NSA's pastebin will be dropping soon. If it takes too long like a few days until Ms. then we can be concerned.
No.92504
Anonymous
2 more weeks until NSA's pastebin
No.92505
Anonymous
>>92503
Nothing in that pastebin can justify her being caught samefagging as OFA on top of OFA using NSA’s discord as her own in the archives.
No.92506
Anonymous
>>92503
>You guys are just impatient
It's been WEEKS since she promised us with a complete response.
No.92513
Anonymous
>>92503
Not sure if this irony or bait or what, especially seeing as what Coayynon said had nothing to do with patience, but a few days until Ms. is WAAAAY too late, if it dropped right then that Ms. tournament would be guaranteed to be a shitshow since everyone would be more concerned with the fallout from NSA's cope pastebin than the actual tournament
Two weeks is the absolute maximum amount of time it should take, realistically it should only take until this week
No.92515
Anonymous
Replies:>>92517
>>92513
Any tournament that's hosted by NSA after this point is guaranteed to be a shitshow.
No.92516
Anonymous
>>92513
Any Ms. Tournament ever is guaranteed to be a shitshow
No.92517
Anonymous
>>92515
True I just meant regardless, even if that pastebin included NSA's resignation, it would still take up too much of the discourse in the threads because people would still be addressing it instead of the tournament. Obviously if NSA still hosts that tournament is fucked regardless
All I can hope for right now is that NSA either saves face and resigns of his own free will (haha, fat chance) or the other hosts agree that NSA shouldn't host which I'm holding out at least some hope for
No.92520
Anonymous
>>92513
It’s probably not changing anything at this point, but we’re far closer to the Pastebin being announced than to the main four tournaments starting. Ideally we should have seen something by now, but I can still give it a few weeks. If we’re getting into around April with no word, then I’d say direct action should be taken instead.
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Wrote down a new overview on the case. I implore Dominos / Ghost to read through the linked posts here as she clearly hasn't been keeping up with most of this.

>Wiki page reporting on the incident. Not up to date.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/NightShiftAnon_/_OnlyFansart_incident

>Coayyanon's initial overview of the first days of investigation
>>79760
>Direct follow-up tackling on some posts made on /v/
>>79777

>debunks on NSA's response at the beginning of January
>>81170
>>81171
>>81422
>>81424
>>81716
>>81087

>discovery of a recurring font in OFA's art thanks to NSA's own Discord messages to Ghost / Dominos
>>81338
>another example of art first posted by NSA sharing fonts with art drawn by OFA
>>88994
>OFA/NSA doubles down defending the muzzlefag spam
>>90544

>further suspicions regarding possible reasons behind Muffet's votes incident
>>91022
>>91103
>>91108
>>91113

>NSA's Discord being shared multiple times across /vg/ and /aco/ by OFA as her own
>>91161
>>91164

>further connections between OFA's art and one of the muzzle drawings
>>91261
>>91264
>>91265
>>91270

>direct evidence of OFA astroturfing support for one of her characters and in one of the magma collab art piece
>>91318
>>91500
>>81628
>>81629

>Bateman's wherabouts and possible comunication attempt with NSA (ITT)
>>92206
>>92208
>>92211

>Black Hand gives confirmation to NSA/OFA's samefagging, ISPs and real location. Further speculation concerning the other hosts and confirmation (ITT)
>>92300
>>92323
>>92328
>>92329
>>92350
>>92355
>>92371

>Exploring other instances of OFA/NSA posting by shared image hashes and filenames that seem to line up with certain happenings (ITT)
>>92357
>>92360
>>92367
>>92385

>NSA's new statements via Dominos/Ghost's Discord (ITT)
>>92369
>>92377
>>92402
>>92435

Please, if there's any post chain I have missed linking here that you think is of relevance to the case, reply to this post. I think this is about it.
No.92526
Anonymous
>>92521
I don't know why the Bateman thing is getting such a response like it's a major thing when it's just an entirely unsubstantiated conspiracy
Like bro, the anon was literally called bait man and on /v/, think for a minute
No.92528
Anonymous
Replies:>>92530
>>92526
I don't really think much of it either. Unless we get a convo of it posted here it definitely is one of the vaguest leads since all it has is a random anon ststing it.
No.92529
Anonymous
Replies:>>92530
>>92526
I think people are getting too conspiracy theorist in general. I believe NSA is OFA but people are trying to tie every single instance of shitstirring and controversy to her like this one singular person is responsible for all tournament negativity.
No.92530
Anonymous
>>92526
>>92528
>>92529
It's not exactly relevant, I linked it in my post just in case Dominos has an answer for it, since she apparently was the one who told NSA to contact that guy to begin with.
No.92535
Anonymous
I know about Dominos, but why are people suddenly treated NSA/OFA as a girl?
No.92537
Anonymous
>>92535
OFA said that she was a girl in one of her posts.
No.92538
Anonymous
>>92535
They're listed as they/them on deviantart and their taste in fictional characters feel vaguely yumejoshi or fujoshi, among other things
No.92549
Anonymous
>>92123
I still want someone to do a Battler campaign where the tournament is treated like one of Beatrice's games.
No.92550
Anonymous
>>92123
It sucks because Battler in 2022 was actually cool and had funposting involving Umineko. Losing to Christopher Robin was the worst thing to happen.
No.92551
Anonymous
>>92549
I would if I didn't have a gazillion other characters I also like.
No.92554
Anonymous
>>92535
what type of dude is named Tabitha? either he's a girl or she's a tranny and the fact that she acts like a woman pretty much makes it clear it's not the latter
No.92555
Anonymous
>>92549
I was considering doing that last year but I focused on campaigning for someone else instead. Maybe I'll do that for Co-op if Battler and Beatrice get in together as a team.
No.92558
Anonymous
Replies:>>92562
I think NSA should just throw in the towel, not because I think they've done a terrible job at hosting, but because you guys are starting to get really weird about it. I don't know what finding out who they are IRL is gonna do except scare them.
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So what happens when the pastebin finally drops and it's a massive nothingburger and is just more of the same blatant lies and not addressing the evidence we got last time and nobody is happy with it? Will the other hosts finally do something? If not what the fuck's the point of the pastebin in the first place
No.92560
Anonymous
>>92559
>thinking there will be a pastebin at all at this point
No.92561
Anonymous
>>92559
>He thinks there's gonna be a pastebin
No.92562
Anonymous
>>92558
Nobody was talking about planning to dox NSA. Though you ARE right the longer NSA takes to resign/get forced out the more dirt we're going to dig up, which will probably include an actual personal info leak at this rate. Though who gives a shit if NSA is "scared" or not by getting doxed? If theoretically NSA were to be so scared by it as to quit hosting forever I'd consider that a win since it'd mean we're finally free of that self-obsessed manipulative faggot
No.92564
Anonymous
Replies:>>92566
>we get to find out NSA's home address and social security number
>the pastebin is still not dropping
Replies:>>92571
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This whole drama is just getting fatiguing. I've had enough of this rabbit hole and I really wish NSA would just relinquish and get it over it. There's simply no convincing way of getting out of it. Instead they gotta drag it on and make it worse for everyone.
No.92566
Anonymous
>>92564
this is going to end with someone breaking into NSA's house and using her computer to release the pastebin
No.92567
Anonymous
>>92559
Considering how the hosts also seemed in the dark on a lot of this, I doubt NSA is actually going to be hosting come this fall.
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>>92495
Legitimately perfect post, took the words out of my mouth
No.92571
Anonymous
Replies:>>92676
>>92565
I also wish Coayynon, Samaritanon, and Dominos (and penisanon but he's MIA and i really doubt he of all people would defend NSA) would come to a consensus soon, I assume they're waiting for the pastebin to drop before they give their verdict so to say but I don't see the point because A. There is literally nothing NSA can say to dispute the current evidence, we've gone too far for that and B. NSA can just continue stalling posting the pastebin indefinitely. The solution to B is a deadline by the way, have it so that if the pastebin isn't released by a certain date (up to the other hosts to decide) then NSA gets the boot by default.
Well, I believe in the non-NSA hosts to settle things fairly. We've given NSA more than enough chances but if they decide to give one more chance with that pastebin, fine. Just let it be over soon because this is getting ridiculous. I trust in them to do the right thing, even Dominos should be realizing what has to be done by now. (and dominos i know you and NSA are BFFs or whatever but if it's any consolation, you'd legitimately be doing NSA a favor by getting him to stop hosting, even if he doesn't realize it yet)
No.92572
[TempAnon]
Replies:>>92573
Fuck NSA, repeel all his reforma, go back to how Stats was doing it
No.92573
Anonymous
>>92572
And then you got THIS nigga...
No.92574
Anonymous
Replies:>>92575
Let's just pick some new hosts and move on, don't care that much about the drama
No.92575
[TempAnon]
>>92574
>Let's just pick some new hosts and move on, don't care that much about the drama
I nominate myself
No.92577
Anonymous
>>92575
Fake temp btw
No.92578
Anonymous
>>92575
Fake Temp or not hothead and autist tripfags like him are largely why NSA has stayed in so long. They made him look good in comparison.
No.92579
Anonymous
>>92578
Yeah, and now we all know NSA is every bit as bad as faggots like Numnuts and Temp.
No.92583
Anonymous
>>92578
This sadly, and even then NSA is somehow better then some of those "candidates" because at least they can run things.
Schizo autists like Num and Temp really cemented NSA for years longer then they should have been because it scared people into thinking that at least it isn't getting these fags to host
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>I never thought fatfags essential
>They're creepy, and have a horrid smell
>But perhaps, they'd make consumers
>With their autism, and, my wealth
No.92586
Anonymous
>>92583
I still don't get Temp's insistence on hosting Tag Team 2022 on /co/ when he failed twice to do test tournaments on here.
No.92592
Anonymous
Replies:>>92597
>The Fag-ler
No.92594
Anonymous
>>92583
He was better when we thought he was merely incompetent, now that we know he’s incompetent AND malicious though he’s every bit as bad as the other trip schizos.
No.92597
Anonymous
>>92592
He should team up with Faggler for /co-v/.
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I will kill NSA with my magnetic powers!
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I had a thought. The rules preclude real people being in the tournament proper, but could this mean that NSA could be the 2024 Barred From Ms. /co/lympus champion?
No.92606
Anonymous
>>92602
NSA will win ms. /trash/.
No.92607
Anonymous
Replies:>>92611
>>92602
Lucky man, I was at Kevin Conroy's last convention appearnace but I ended up not getting the signature because it was a four hour minimum line
No.92608
Anonymous
>>92605
>AM asked my HERO to kill himself just for asking a simple question
Lost my vote.
Replies:>>92612
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wouldn't it be funny if Nightshift was the Engineer Gaming spammer?
Replies:>>92618
>>92607
I like to collect autographs, specifically of voice actors or actors with distinctive voices.

Currently on the wall:
Kevin Conroy
Christopher Lloyd
Ian McDiarmid

Still need to get Fred Tatasciore, Keith Szarabajka, Paul Dobson, Scott McNeil, Toby Longworth, Tara Strong and John Snyder.
No.92612
Anonymous
Replies:>>92615
>>92610
Is Engineer a tumblr sexyman?
No.92615
Anonymous
>>92612
Spy is
No.92618
Anonymous
>>92611
Nice.
I've got Rodger Bumpass (Squidward), Steve Blum (Shitload of vidya) Whoever voiced Squigly from Skullgirls, and Charles Martinet (Mario)
I'd really love to get to meet Greg Eagles or Cam Clarke, adored Killer7 and they were both great in it
Replies:>>92622
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>>92618
You're doing Lauren Landa dirty. Best Skullgirl btw.
No.92622
Anonymous
Replies:>>92626
>>92621
That was it, thanks
I shit you not she ripped the cover art of my copy a little bit when she pulled out the art. At least it's on the spine, but still aaaaaaaaaaah
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male? female? doesn't matter, I'll still believe that NightShift is innocent
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>>92624
You know, out of any avatar fag you've consistently simped for Nightshift the hardest. Are you just her trying to play damage control or is it some weird characterfagging thing?
Replies:>>92629
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>>92622
That's sad. But hey, accidents happen.
No.92628
Anonymous
Replies:>>92631
>>92625
During NSA's retardation when banning X while claiming he was Megaman when he's a different person entirely from the future, she let in Quint who is actually Megaman from the future. This caused jokes that she likes Quint.
No.92629
Anonymous
Replies:>>92630
>>92626
I looked at it again and it wasn't as bad as I remembered. Worth it though, Squigly's fun to play and VERY cute
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>>92629
Glad to hear. And true! She's adorable!
No.92631
Anonymous
Replies:>>92662
>>92624
>>92628
is Quint a Tumblr sexyman?
No.92632
Anonymous
Replies:>>92633
tumblr sexyman buff
No.92633
Anonymous
Replies:>>92634
>>92632
The tumblr sexyman buff will be SHIT and FINISHED when NSA is no longer hosting
Replies:>>92636
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>>92633
This. And the furry and shota nerf will also be SHIT and FINISHED. The time for a new era will soon be upon us.
No.92635
Anonymous
>>92625
When NSA was being a retard about X he banned him because he didn’t want more than one Megaman in the tournament, only to let Quint in who actually IS Megaman.
Replies:>>92637
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>>92634
>Liu KEK is a furry and a shotashitter
Should've realized sooner.
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>>92636
I am saying now everyone has equal opportunity to win. This is why I chose Raiden to be Earth's Champion over you.
No.92639
Anonymous
>>92482
>This reminds me of the Ms. /co/ 23 finals where NSA suddenly had to come up with the road excuse to buy time for like 4 hours
It was revealed that she actually goes on the road between three cities so this might not have been a false claim.
No.92649
Anonymous
>>92618
>I'd really love to get to meet Greg Eagles or Cam Clarke, adored Killer7 and they were both great in it
Based, I loved those two in that and MGS1. Greg Eagles was arguably the best part of Billy and Mandy too.
No.92662
Anonymous
>>92631
>cool
>evil
>not human
>sunglasses
all he needs is a dapper outfit
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>>92485
>I'd see it more in a "looking the other way with cheating because I like the character" vs NSA directly cheating for them
Hey, that's really funny! Because I remember one Erisposter gloated about rigging his character to the finals thinking that "NSA doesn't know what the fuck he is doing".
No.92670
Anonymous
Replies:>>92671
Can someone give me a TL;DR of what we think NSA is guilty of (and provide some proof), because it looks like it went from NSA being a terrible host due to general incompetence/stubbornness to proper conspiracy theory levels.
No.92671
Anonymous
Replies:>>92672
>>92670
Read
>>92521
Or for an aproximate summary
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/NightShiftAnon_/_OnlyFansart_incident
No.92672
Anonymous
Replies:>>92673
>>92671
So the TL;DR is that NSA possibly didn't remain impartial when it came to campaigning and continued drawfagging for the tournaments? That's not good but that's not anywhere near as bad as I was anticipating. They probably should resign though, any character they drawfag for is now going to be seen as suspicious.
No.92673
Anonymous
Replies:>>92675
>>92672
>So the TL;DR is that NSA possibly didn't remain impartial when it came to campaigning and continued drawfagging for the tournaments?
And the smear and falseflagging directed at specific characters.
No.92675
Anonymous
>>92673
That kind of falls under the drawfagging/campaigning umbrella for me. I don't think their efforts really mattered when it came to winners (except maybe Wuya??), but either way it'd be in their best interest to step dwn.
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Back from playing alot of Fallout New Vegas last night to say a few more things. Completed Honest Hearts and I can see why people love Joshua Graham now

Talked with NSA. Expect the pastebin to address the cheating concerns. Not the OFA stuff, though I've already made up my mind that NSA is OFA. I still don't believe they're responsible for the Ammy muzzle pics, however.

>>92469
Beats me. I don't recall ever deleting it.

>>92571
I'm waiting for the pastebin and a response from the other hosts. I think NSA should drop out or at the very least be responsible for helping us with certain things like J3nny, talking to the mods, and counting votes. I think this drama is definitely getting to them and they may need a break.
No.92681
Anonymous
>>92469
>>92676
iirc Balls was the one who created those docs, so they got deleted when he deleted his Google account after he retired. He also created the doc for Mr. /co/ 2023 Semis, hence why that one's gone too.
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>>92676
>Not the OFA stuff
Not addressing the thing that took us to this place makes me think that the pastebin will be the same shit as he did last time.
No.92683
Anonymous
Replies:>>92737
>>92676
>Back from playing alot of Fallout New Vegas
What's your build?
No.92684
Anonymous
>>92681
I guess that makes sense.
No.92685
Anonymous
Replies:>>92687
I don't know what makes me angrier, the fact she keeps denying the thrut or that she very clearly isn't sorry about any of this.
No.92686
Anonymous
>>92681
Why the fuck did he “delete” his account?
Who the fuck does that instead of just logging off? What the fuck actually happened?
No.92687
Anonymous
>>92685
It's just kind of silly. Even Ghost thinks she's OFA. It seems like everyone but NSA knows that. The only way it could be even more common knowledge is if someone made an image compiling the ISP check and the Discord name check.
No.92688
Anonymous
Replies:>>92692
>>92686
Well he hasn't touched /tnt/ since he quit during King either.
As far as we know he might as well be dead.
No.92689
Anonymous
>>92686
he got hired by the Men In Black
No.92690
Anonymous
Replies:>>92737
>>92676
>Not the OFA stuff
Why not just admit it at this point? I don't get it. It can only make her look worse to keep lying.
No.92691
Anonymous
Replies:>>92740
Our hosts were girls all along? Which has the biggest booba?
No.92692
Anonymous
>>92686
>>92688
I said it before but Balls most likely was suffering from some terminal illness.
No.92693
Anonymous
>>92692
Either that or he went into IVA and is in a coma or something.
No.92694
Anonymous
>>92692
What would that have to do with deleting his account tho.
No.92695
Anonymous
>>92692
He caught ball cancer after NSA went too hard with the CBT
No.92698
Anonymous
Replies:>>92703
NSA lost.
>B-But-
She LOST.
No.92703
Anonymous
Replies:>>92708
>>92698
The winning competition.
No.92708
Anonymous
Replies:>>92709
>>92703
....about eating my cock. Jirenscholar btw
Replies:>>92710
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>>92708
Jirenbros... what is this?
No.92710
Anonymous
>>92709
Jiren's next meal
No.92711
Anonymous
I will seduce Jiren
No.92713
Anonymous
Piccolo
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>>92676
I will point out with one of the muzzle pics, it used the same exact brush as another Amaterasu drawing OFA did
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>>92714
>>92676
If this isn't proof I don't know what is
Replies:>>92737
>>92676
Joshua Graham - voiced by Keith Szarabajka

Funnily enough, I heard Keith's voice first from him reading a book from a Lovecraft anthology (Herbert West: Reanimator) I didn't find out about Joshua until much later.
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>>92101
Why is she there she's /trash/
No.92732
Anonymous
>>92714
>>92715
So you're all bitching that she supported a character for a round but not for another round?
This is the most autistic reeing of all time holy shit, I though she just trashed the character for the entire tournament
No.92734
Anonymous
>>92732
She was falseflagging and hosting while campaigning. Falseflagging is already a poor thing to do, but now the validity of the tournament is in question.
No.92736
Anonymous
>>92732
>I though she just trashed the character for the entire tournament
She trashed the character during the last few rounds of the tournament. The reason as to why? Because she beat her main pick in the semifinals + her supporters openly criticized her hosting decissions.
No.92737
Ghost !!Oo4T4nqR2jB
>>92690
I don't know. It's weird they're telling me they're not OFA. Not sure what they've said to the other hosts. I'll try to remind them to complete the pastebin soon.

>>92683
Guns and high int. Already got 100s on Speech, Science, Lockpicking and Medicine.

This is my first time playing New Vegas (I've never played any Fallout game prior) and I'm having a blast.

>>92714
>>92715
That's just a coincidence to me. Alot of artists use similar brushes all the time.

>>92725
Good to see you here. And that's amazing! Keith did a fantastic job.
No.92738
Anonymous
>>92676
>Not the OFA stuff, though
Then we don't give a shit.
No.92740
Anonymous
>>92691
The one we hate the most.
No.92741
Anonymous
Replies:>>92742
>>92714
>>92715
These aren't the same brushes
No.92742
Anonymous
Replies:>>92748
>>92741
Can you prove it?
Replies:>>92770
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So you're all bitching thACCKK!
No.92748
Anonymous
Replies:>>92756
>>92742
Textures and patterns are different. First brush has a more 'dry' texture to it compared to the second one. It's more obvious in the writing. You could use a brush like the first one to produce linework in the second pic, but it'd be more trouble than it's worth (you would be going over lines again and again to get that filled in look) and you'd be better off using a different brush. Now I'm not saying these couldn't have come from, say, the same brushpack, but a lot of digital art programs come with a few default brushes that have that Japanese ink feel to them. Also probably irrelevant but I'm picking up on less line confidence in the first pic compared to the second one. You can see it around the muzzle, the lines there are "feathered".
Replies:>>92762
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>>92748
No way, she just used lighter pressure for the second pic as it was obviously something she shat out with no effort. Of anything the letters are the most damning part, look at the second "W" in "Whine" and then look at Ammy's right ear, or the second kanji down from the top.
Or look at how similar the brushwork is in the muzzle strap, where there's more pressure applied and then look at the more obviously deliberate "A Vote for the sun to rise" lettering.
Rick, based on my knowledge and analysis of the pieces, I'm going to tell you this:
It's definitely a 100%, authentic OFA art piece. I even passed her when walking to your vegas pawn shop, I would know her stuff. It's worth at least 3 (You)s in the current market.
No.92762
Anonymous
>>92756
>>92759
I never said this disproves it's the same person, just that it's not the same brush (I even said they could be from the same pack). The lighter pressure argument doesn't even hold up, because you can see in the first pic where more pressure is applied and it doesn't match the linework in the bottom picture.
No.92770
Anonymous
Replies:>>92771
>>92746
I'm sorry anon... No arrow means you say that and you look like that.
No.92771
Anonymous
>>92770
Well duh, I'm a NSAbro. I hope she draws my rendition to her character.
No.92773
Anonymous
>>92714
>>92715
NSA did tell Ghost she uses Procreate to draw, that's how we found out the exact font she uses in a lot of her drawings (a basic one the program defaults to)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProCreate/comments/lgvkzy/swatches_of_the_basic_brushes_might_be_usefull/
The brushes used in the rising sun drawing and the second muzzle drawing aren't the same one, BUT they appear to have the same texture because both are stock painting brushes. Go to the fourth image in the link and look at "old brush" and "oil brush".
No.92775
Spideranon !!hAaBXjbZBz7
>>92676
>helping us with certain things like J3nny
What's about it that's giving you trouble?
No.92851
Anonymous
Replies:>>92853
Dang Spideranon killed the thread.
No.92853
Anonymous
>>92851
wtf why would he do that
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Spideranon why did you kill the thread?
No.92903
Anonymous
Replies:>>92911
I think the activity just got siphoned back to the /v/ thread.
No.92911
Anonymous
>>92903
What /v/ thread?
No.92916
Anonymous
Replies:>>92918
so uh...
Totally Spybros, thoughts on 2024?
No.92918
Anonymous
>>92916
There's always Sam and Mandy.
No.92922
Anonymous
Replies:>>92924
There's vocal Totally Spy voters? I thought there was just one drawfag and the Brazilian silent majority.
No.92924
Anonymous
Replies:>>92929
>>92922
Yes, mostly from the fetish community
No.92925
Anonymous
The spy's are so sexy, bro's.
No.92926
Anonymous
so uh...
King of the Hillchads, thoughts on 2024?
No.92928
Anonymous
The spy's are on heat!
No.92929
Anonymous
>>92924
I remember /co/ made a list breaking down every fetish in every episode of Totally Spies, but I don't have it saved.
No.92931
Anonymous
Replies:>>92933
>>92926
I hope Boomhauer returns and that Bill and Kahn are the other two reps.
No.92933
Anonymous
>>92931
I kinda wonder how Boomhauer would've fared last year if he wasn't immediately up against Dale in R1.
No.92934
Anonymous
>>92926
BOOMHAUER SWEEP
But for real it'd be nice to get Cotton on the bracket.
No.92944
Anonymous
>>92926
BoomhauerKINGS, now is our TIME.
No.92949
Anonymous
Winners by number of mentions in the archive

>Jenny
37,968
>Spinel
38,736
>Mrs. Monarch
2,743
>Betty Boop
5,464
>Fang
33,097
>Wuya
6,567

>Bravo
31,951
>Kronk
3,030
>Tom
Way too generic a name.
>Grievous
15,140
>Zorak
3,715
No.92959
Anonymous
Replies:>>92973
>>92949
Spinel being the most mentioned kind of surprises me. She's even over the names like Jenny and Fang which would probably catch a lot of mentions not referring to thpse characters. I'm guessing a good few fucking thousand of those Spinel mentions are tourney discussion though.
No.92965
Anonymous
Replies:>>92966
>>92949
You should use Johnny Bravo instead, Bravo is a common word. General Grievous too to a lesser extent
Maybe "Tom Cat" would work if the search picks up on that?
Mrs. Monarch is a bit of a tough one though since you can refer to her by several ways or by several names (dr. mrs. the monarch, mrs. (the) monarch, dr. girlfriend, sheila), realistically as a character she's mentioned a lot more than that but like I said it's hard with the naming convention
No.92966
Anonymous
>>92965
It's also complicated most people don't type a full name out.
/v/ names are a lot easier to confirm.
No.92973
Anonymous
Replies:>>92989
>>92959
Nah. Spinel was and to an extent still is a legitimately popular character within /co/.
No.92989
Anonymous
>>92973
This. She's a great winner.
Replies:>>93004
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>This. She's a great winner.
No.93004
Anonymous
>>92990
Bejita...
Replies:>>93007
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The most DIMES /co/ champion.
No.93007
Anonymous
Replies:>>93008
>>93006
>Turned the entire tournament into a complete cesspool
She's anti dimes.
No.93008
Anonymous
>>93007
>#1 seed
>most votes in a tourney ever
>threads could not stop talking about her
>tourneys still talk about her
>most mentioned winner on wider /co/
dimes
No.93009
Anonymous
Who do you think are not winner material for Ms. and Mr.? They need to have vocal campaigns, would be great Elite 8 members, but don't deserve to actually win the whole thing.
No.93010
Anonymous
Replies:>>93013
No.93011
Anonymous
Replies:>>93016
>>93009
Whoever usually gets 8th.
No.93013
Anonymous
>>93010
4 FUCKING MONTHS
No.93015
Anonymous
No.93016
Anonymous
>>93011
ENAbros... Xavierbros...
No.93017
Anonymous
>>93016
The exceptions to the rule
No.93019
Anonymous
>>93016
>Black Canary
>Peridot
>Jucika
>Pauling
>ENA
>Eve
>Kuzco
>Doof
>Incredible
>Iroh
>Xavier
>Farquaad
Pretty much.
No.93020
Anonymous
Replies:>>93087
>>93019
Mr. Incrediblebros...
No.93030
Anonymous
>>93019
Doofbros...
No.93031
Anonymous
>>93019
Farquaadbros...
No.93035
Anonymous
>>93019
TF2bros...
No.93045
Anonymous
Replies:>>93115
Wario ranked 8th in the first King of /v/. I don't think something like that should be a death sentence,
No.93046
Anonymous
Replies:>>93047
So what will the vote counts look like after The Fall of NSA? Presumably they'll be up but by how much? For comparison here's the Round 1 vote counts from the last few Ms. /co/s
>2021: 974
>2022: 1028
>2023: 545
No.93047
Anonymous
>>93046
There will be up to 1000+ voters
>source: trust me
No.93050
Anonymous
>>93019
Xavier and Doof could do it, maybe ENA with a perfect storm. None of them are frontrunners, but worth noting at least. Kuzco is also possible, but has a lot to overcome. Rest I agree.
No.93051
Anonymous
>>93009
>They need to have vocal campaigns
No they don't, that's how you end up with shitty winners like Spinel or Kevin Spencer or whoever /v/ always picks to win from their schizo group over what represents the board
No.93052
Anonymous
>>93051
So you think they should be winner material? Because I'm asking for non-winner materials. Try having some reading comprehension next time.
No.93053
Anonymous
>>93051
Shut up Temp.
No.93055
Anonymous
>>93051
He's right. As bad as /co/ tournaments are, at least they're not dominated by a small but very vocal and annoying group.
No.93056
Anonymous
Anti-Silverfag......
No.93057
Anonymous
Replies:>>93072
>>93051
You need good picks with good campaigns.
No.93059
Anonymous
Replies:>>93069
>>93051
>Kevin Spencer
genuinely what the fuck are you talking about
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>>93051
Thanks for outing yourself as a dumbass with terrible reading comprehension, he was setting a definition for "characters who have campaigns and would be good E8 members but would not be good winners" not saying that winners need to have campaigns
Now when I see a post from you I am safe to ignore it because I know it was written by a 70 IQ retard
No.93063
Anonymous
Replies:>>93067
>>93051
Anon please stop bringing the KS guy up, I despise him too but it's not a good idea to give posters like that attention. Unless he goes full peridot, KS is never going to qualify, let alone win.
No.93064
Anonymous
>>92926
Cotton will sweep and make his 50 men kill record into a 57 men kill record
No.93067
Anonymous
>>93063
he's using it as a slander tool. want to make something seem bad? just associate it with the thing everybody already hates.
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are there any characters with good campaigns that you believe shouldn't even make elite 8?
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>>93059
Anon is a room temperature IQ twerp who is unable to get through that thick fucking skull of his that he shouldn't be namedropping random board attention whores.
No.93070
Anonymous
Replies:>>93071
>>93068
Enough with this shit. You people really want another Spinel or Kevin Spencer-tier winner to win or whatever the fuck those /v/tards are voting for.
No.93071
Anonymous
Replies:>>93078
>>93070
Ohh I get it. You're namedropping yourself.
No.93072
Anonymous
Replies:>>93079
>>93057
Johnny Bravo, Jenny XJ9, Skeletor last year among other winners had no real campaign
No.93073
Anonymous
Replies:>>93077
>>93068
Honestly? At this point no because naturally as Elite 8 has gotten much larger the less prestigious it’s gotten. When characters like Shirley or Hilda’s mom are finalists and around 60 characters over both tournaments have made the E8 stage that pretty much indicates that exclusivity isn’t much of a factor. Really only the champions are an exclusive club and haven’t been dented much at all
No.93076
Anonymous
>>93051
Fangbro btw
No.93077
Anonymous
>>93073
Personally I tend to make a distinction between regular Elite 8 and semi-finalists. Ms. /co/ itself is kind of a different beast next to the other three tourneys. Then again, Jack Frost is /v/ finalist.
No.93078
Anonymous
>>93071
That, or he is Temp. Black Hand did mention he was posting in this very thread.
No.93079
Anonymous
Replies:>>93080
>>93072
>Skeletor
Maybe in Bizarro World where he was a silentfag pick.
No.93080
Anonymous
>>93079
Note how it says “this year”
Skeletor had some strong campaigns in the past but the year he won it was mostly silent
No.93083
Anonymous
>>93080
Gmodbros say hello
No.93084
Anonymous
Replies:>>93089
Why the different phone devices though?
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/s2aezKjl6xzfuMUrrLZuvA/
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>>93020
...
No.93089
Anonymous
>>93084
It's a miracle the IC fanboy didn't participate in Tag-team.
No.93099
Anonymous
Frankly I'm not really sure if the anti-Silver autist really is Temp (not that it actually matters), but he sure did a good job at outing himself as a total idiot with that post. Congratz.
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>>93099
I don't buy it either. the anti-silver autists is more of an anti-campaign autist who likes to use Silver as a scapegoat, but Temp was an active campaigner and RPer
i think people are getting too hung up on what Black Hand says, and they think Temp still posting means he must be someone else we know. but he could be anybody.
No.93103
Anonymous
Replies:>>93105
>>93099
If you’re referring to the Spencer posts they are the most obvious bait post
No.93104
Anonymous
>>93099
>Says treasure planet is irrelevant in the tournaments
Captain Amelia is a very strong Ms. /co/ contender
>Says Silver is /tnt/‘s favorite
Silver loses early in both main and /tnt/ tournaments
>Says Silveranon spams like King Boo
Silveranon and Booanon both call out on his bullshit.

Like, how the fuck do you recover from such retarded takes that every single argument of yours is outed bullshit.
No.93105
Anonymous
>>93103
I don't want to say the Kevstar schizo posts here and keeps talking about themselves in third person for bait, but maybe the Kevstar schizo really does post here and keeps talking about themselves in third person for bait.
No.93108
Anonymous
Replies:>>93111
>>93080
Skeletor had constant thread support all throughout. A true silent pick is someone who actually gets by without even that.
No.93111
Anonymous
>>93108
Invader Zim sisters....
No.93112
Anonymous
>tfw can't even make Captain Sternn jokes about NSA now that he's confirmed a girl
No.93113
Anonymous
>>93112
I will let you know you were my favorite ritual poster.
No.93115
Anonymous
>>93045
/v/ is different. But I think people misunderstood what i meant. The question being vocal campaign and great E8 but not great winner, not they will never win. 8th place is mostly that spot. Cool characters and support that deserve some accolade but not anyone I think should actually get the crown.
No.93116
Anonymous
>>93112
Just change up the words a little.
No.93117
Anonymous
Replies:>>93118
>>93019
Mr. Incredible I feel should've won years ago.
No.93118
Anonymous
Replies:>>93121
>>93117
He's too quiet. That's why why he gets '...' memed.
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Here's /co/lympus suffering chart. Recommendations made by some anons have been placed.
Mr. /co/ winners that aren't placed are
>Johnny Bravo, Kronk, Tom, General Grievous, Zorak and Skeletor
Ms. /co/ winners that aren't placed are
>Jenny, The Monarch, Betty, Fang and Wuya

Any recommendation is welcome but winners should take priority.
No.93120
Anonymous
>>93119
Jackie Lynn Thomas
suffering 10 deserved 90
No.93121
Anonymous
Replies:>>93122
>>93118
I never said he’s worthy of winning a tournament nowadays, just that a victory would’ve felt natural around the tournament’s beginning when silentfagging wasn’t seen as a major concern.
No.93122
Anonymous
>>93121
eh. i'd have never put him above guys like Bravo, Courage, Jack, Hank and the like.
No.93123
Anonymous
Replies:>>93125
>>93119
Bump Spinel to like 80 suffering. She actually suffers a lot in canon.
>her master who is the only purpose for her existence abandons her
>master tricks her into waiting for her on some empty planet for a thousand years
>finds out she's dead and turned into some tranny through a telecom
>spends the whole movie in a state of mental breakdwon trying to exact revenge
>never actually gets over her trauma just kind of tries to live with a new master
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>>93119
A gif is worth a thousand words
No.93125
Anonymous
Replies:>>93141
>>93123
>>never actually gets over her trauma just kind of tries to live with a new master
Unrelated but if there's something about SU at large that especially pisses me off is how by the end of it almost nobody ever moves past their traumas or truly evolves as a character.
No.93135
Anonymous
>Stealth thread at over 300 replies
>Still no NSA cop response
No.93138
Anonymous
Replies:>>93140
>>93135
It needs to be on page 10 and at 3 am.
No.93140
Anonymous
>>93138
K, b, c.
No.93141
Anonymous
>>93125
SU seemed very much a show that was about the writers own hang-ups and therapy in life. The characters not really 'moving on' was on purpose and kind of a realism I think. Often people don't really get over things, and just cope somehow instead, at least at that point in life.
No.93142
Anonymous
Replies:>>93143
>>93135
wait what?
link?
No.93143
Anonymous
>>93142
boards.4chan.org/co/thread/141822666
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https://pastebin.com/WWM88ZqH
People are getting bored enough of Nightshit they're trying to bait anons with fake pastebins. Here's the first one I saw.
Replies:>>93153
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Important question; do we have ANY available proof of NSA ever talking with mods for approval of the four main tournament threads?
No.93148
Anonymous
The other hosts are protecting NSA
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>>93148
Sadly the only reasonable assumption by this point.
No.93150
Anonymous
Replies:>>93153
>>93148
>>93149
>we STILL haven't gotten the results sheets promised earlier ITT
No.93151
Anonymous
Replies:>>93152
>>93149
Nah I haven't been getting that feeling, ideally NSA would've been gone by this point but I guess they're waiting to seal the deal so to say after the cope pastebin drops since I feel from their posts they're willing to remove NSA if he doesn't step down on his own
I'll give things a little longer but this really does need to be wrapped up soon
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>>93151
February should be the absolute deadline, I'm just sick of this shit and her dragging it out with excuses. That's INCREDIBLY fair and if nothing by then, she's just booted out by default. Not "gone", I mean "removed", as in "even if she does come back, she isn't allowed anywhere near this shit"
No.93153
Anonymous
>>93147
I'll take the lack of response as a "no".

>>93150
Ghost was the one who asked here about what sheets we were interested in seeing for ourselves. I think the other hosts are just waiting for the pastebin to drop before they make any move... Hopefully.
No.93154
Anonymous
>>93119
>Mung Daal
70 suffering 60 deserved, he regularly gets humiliated and belittled in the tournaments; he got cucked by Wallace shagging his wife, and was forced to eat Spear's caveman shit, but he deserves it for constantly starting shit with other candidates and generally being a menace
No.93159
Anonymous
>shitty winners like Spinel or Kevin Spencer
you mean like the guy from Wuya's show? Jack Spicer?
No.93160
Anonymous
>>93148
>>93149
While I could be very wrong, I’m doubtful they’re willingly trying to shield her with the way they’ve reacted in these threads. Only one that’s iffy is Penis since he’s been entirely quiet as of late. I can’t speak to any form of blackmail or the sort making the hosts nervous to say too much.
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Wouldn't it be funny if NSA tried to host but he literally couldn't go on with the qualifiers because every single thread's image limit was flooded by non-nominations and funposts, resulting in there not even being 128 actual characters to choose from? I think that would be funny
I also think in this theoretical scenario where NSA tried to host it would be funny if everytime someone spammed a copypasta or funpost it includes the "I nominate X from Y" format so the nominations sheet gets shit up and becomes basically unusable
No.93176
Anonymous
>>93165
Wouldn't happen, getting 128 characters nominated isn't difficult in the slightest especially if you samefag your own nominees.
That being said, I'm definitely going to nominate as many furry bitches as I can think of
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>>93165
Actually what DO we do if Nightshift does butt her way in anyway? I mean, we're online. Only power we have is typing words and posting images. We can't ACTUALLY remove her from hosting unless she herself gives up. Should one of us just tripfag and say "Real OC anchor" and "Real poll" during "her" tournament, and we all vote in that one instead?
No.93182
Anonymous
>>93181
not a bad idea desu
No.93186
Anonymous
Replies:>>93195
>>93181
Not a bad idea actually when you realize almost everyone would see NSA as illegitimate as if Numnuts/Fusefag/Temp tried forcing themselves as host, and it's not like the jannies would delete those Real Poll links since they're not a separate thread, so we could all just follow those polls and ignore whatever garbage NSA tries making.
Granted the threads would still be nigh unusable from the off-topic spam and funposting (which could result in the tournaments getting banned all together) but at least NSA would get cucked out of hosting "his own" tournament.
Again this is just worst-case doomsday scenario speculation, most likely (or, hopefully, anyways) NSA won't be hosting and we can go on having a normal tournament
No.93188
Anonymous
Replies:>>93193
>>93165
Yeah you fuckin' wish LMAO.
No.93193
Anonymous
>>93188
I just think it would be funny.
No.93194
Anonymous
>>93181
I really don't think there's any way she'll remain host at this point, unless the other hosts really are out to protect her.
No.93195
Anonymous
Replies:>>93196
>>93186
How do we make sure it's not one of them?
Personally, I wouldn't mind taking one for the team at least for Ms. since there's only like two characters participating in that one I legitimately care at all about, I really don't have a bias beyond that.
But uhhhhh
I'm pretty bad with computer stuff, I don't think I could figure out the technical side of things
No.93196
Anonymous
>>93195
>How do we make sure it's not one of them?
I don't think those guys in particular could help revealing themselves.
No.93197
Anonymous
The pastebin is real. It came to me in a dream.
No.93198
Anonymous
Replies:>>93220
Here's your pastebins bros
https://pastebin.com/WWM88ZqH
https://pastebin.com/KKGKRu3n
https://pastebin.com/Z9nvqmh7
No.93201
Anonymous
So what is the comprehensive list of characters that NSA had a melty over? The ones I remember the most are:
>Skeletor (Had to draw Zim with Wuya obessively, called Skeletor "silent")
>Amaterasu (Needs no explaining)
>AM (Hated that he beat her precious Wesker and an AMchad putting NSA in her place)
>Rayman (Bitched about a Rayman magma bro criticizing NSA)
>Loona (Freaked about Loona being added to one of the maps, Loonafags gave her a hard time in Mrs /co/)
>Shirley (Absolutely obliterated her legitimacy as a host, had to make up asterisk cope fanfiction to try and make her third place)
I kindof want to make a tier list about it, I think it'd be funny
No.93202
Anonymous
Replies:>>93204
>we are less than 50 posts away from bump limit and this bitch hasn't showed up with her pastebin yet
No.93203
Anonymous
Replies:>>93206
>>93201
Curly's on there too because her supporters were shitting on the losers bracket and especially Grand Finals, which caused NSA to make posts at around that time complaining about how Curly is boring and "has no campaign" (funnily the exact same thing he said about AM)
No.93204
Anonymous
>>93202
NiggerShiftAnon FLED.
No.93205
TotallyNigShitAnon
Replies:>>93220
Folx.... here is my confession....
https://pastebin.com/bQsKeYRq
No.93206
Anonymous
>>93203
Oh yeah. That was a WEIRD one to get on, I mean they were literally giving away links to download the game for free and telling people to give it a shot. If that's not honest game-centric campaigning I can't imagine what is
No.93209
Anonymous
Replies:>>93214
>5 posts away from bump limit and still no response from NiggerShiftFaggot
No.93213
Anonymous
Replies:>>93214
>bump limit
No.93214
Anonymous
>>93209
>>93213
I'm ready for page 10.
No.93220
Anonymous
>>93198
>>93205
These are probably better than the real one she ends up posting if she ever does.
No.93221
Anonymous
Replies:>>93229
>>93201
Megatron according to herself
No.93229
Anonymous
Replies:>>93255
>>93221
Yeah, NSA was legitimately pretty pissed about that one anon who went and nominated several versions of Megatron. It got worse when the guy himself admitted it during King of /v/ in a classic NSA rulefagging session (read: "I'm going to stir the pot as much as possible") and she proceeded to have another melty.

Hey, any idea of something like this could have actually affected the Optimus vs Zim match?
No.93235
Anonymous
>thread is going to archive without a response
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WHERE'S THE PASTEBIN, MANSLEY?
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Pathetic.
No.93240
Anonymous
Don't get any big ideas
They're not gonna happen
No.93244
Anonymous
Replies:>>93264
>>93201
NSA seethed so hard over AM I could make a whole ass screencap compiling all his posts. Y'know maybe I should do that, didn't she screencap some posts from here made during the loser's final to make fun of Ammy's supporters after all?
No.93249
Anonymous
I’m going to admit AMfags pretending they are victims to NSA’s hatred when it’s been very openly established for a year prior that AM is one of NSA’s favorites and openly bent the rules of /v/ (and attempted to /co/) for a whitelist just to allow them in has be one of the greatest propaganda campaigns I’ve seen for a tournament. Since Schizos would have had fatigue for so many straight wins now they are repackaging it as the “we’re the fuck NSA” pick even if the opposite is true
No.93250
Anonymous
Replies:>>93252
>>93249
NSAbro btw
No.93251
Anonymous
Replies:>>93252
>>93249
NSAbro btw
No.93252
Anonymous
>>93250
>>93251
>When you can’t even argue about this or why the whitelist was forced so hard so you just resort to spamming
No.93253
Anonymous
>>93252
I'm trans btw I forgot to mention that in this post >93249 idk if that matters
No.93255
Anonymous
>>93229
>Megatron mindbroke NSA so hard she was still seething about it in another tournament and was the reason she banned X from King that year
Megatron-sama... I kneel.
No.93256
Anonymous
>>93249
NSAbro btw
No.93258
Anonymous
Replies:>>93261
>>93249
I don't know why people think NSA submitted AM to Mr. /co/. I am the guy who in 2021 argued his inclusion in /v/, and I also posted his comic version as a joke in Mr. this year.
No.93261
Anonymous
Replies:>>93262
>>93252
>or why the whitelist was forced so hard
THAT is an assumption only you have made while looking for a scapegoat as to why NSA made us vote for a whitelist, assuming you are not trolling. Imagine for a moment OFA and NSA were different people or that we didn't have evidence of the latter being connected a prolific drawfag who persecuted AM's supporters and even made spite art of the character; if NSA had any favoritism towards AM at all, she wouldn’t have hidden his 2022 doc results, let alone made PsyAnon announce his crushing loss. In case you are still wondering why he was briefly included in last year’s nomination form, that's literally only because of Spideranon's nomination bot and >>93258

But what bothers me here is how you seem to be under the belief that people whose characters are especially affected by this controversy (Ammy, SHODAN, AM, Muffet, Loona, etcetera) should feel happy about the voting meta implications it carries, when instead I'm here worried wondering if some of my mains could have been robbed of attaining a higher rank because they had the misfortune of matching against the teacher’s pet or for simply having pissed her off. I would rather not have anything to do with this at all. And that's not even getting into the campaigners who had overlapping tastes with NSA.
No.93262
Anonymous
>>93261
This, so much this. Don't forget the characters he's tarnished like Wuya and Midna through their victories. The latter I still pray that wasn't the case
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Rolf still wonders if that pastebin is ever going to arrive
No.93264
Anonymous
>>93244
Sounds perfect. She does love to compile melties, doesn't she?
No.93266
Anonymous
>>93249
>STILL trying to force the narrative that NSA actually likes AM just because of the Whitelist
This is at least the second time you post this fanfic of yours so I'm assuming you're actually delusional enough to believe your own horseshit, but why? Seriously, it's already been more than proven that NSA=OFA and that she had the habit of rambling to herself through the entire thread just to make AM look worse for beating Wesker, dunno about you but I wouldn't exactly call that a showing of favoritism. Is it all an elaborate excuse to say you just don't like AM? Fair enough if you don't but you just make the AM-opposition look worse by having shit takes like this
>le Schizo boogeyman
Yep, certified retard
No.93267
Anonymous
Replies:>>93270
>>93266
Aren’t the AM/Grimm/etc posters only calling themselves the schizo character group?
That’s a weird thing to be offended by when that’s what they are known by
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>>93252
The whitelist was forced in Mr. /co/ because NSA is actually a huge Kanye fan and wanted to get him into the tournament.
No.93269
Anonymous
>>93268
wasn't it because of King Kong?
No.93270
Anonymous
>>93267
What I meant to convey was that pinning the real complains about NSA shitting on characters (AM in this particular case) as all being a Schizo Alliance "strategy" just seemed to me as another one of those fearmongering posts about another Schizo victor to try and garner spitevotes
No.93271
Anonymous
Replies:>>93348
I finished killing NSA. Ask me anything
No.93272
Anonymous
>>93270
This.
No.93273
Anonymous
Replies:>>93275
>>93269
I can't remember the exact motive honestly.
No.93275
Anonymous
Replies:>>93277
>>93268
>>93269
>>93273
This was the first time NSA mentioned the idea of implementing a whitelist for /co/, it was over a suggestion from an anon about /toy/ characters.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139264553/#139266135
No.93277
Anonymous
Replies:>>93280
>>93275
Haven't notable /toy/ franchises like Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Masters of the Universe always been allowed though?
No.93278
Anonymous
>>93266
I remember very well having to remind NightShift to specify that AM is from 'I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream' for the first whitelist vote (she almost put him in the poll options as just "AM"), so one can't even argue NSA was biased in his favor using the whitelist argument.
No.93279
Anonymous
>>93270
Let’s not be naive here, certain fandoms and participants are using the whole NSA drama as a form of campaigning for characters if they feel they can make a connection towards being slighted
No.93280
Anonymous
Replies:>>93281
>>93277
Yes. Dunno, maybe it was just another instance of NSA samefagging for her own suggestions?
Also this comment is pretty hilarious.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139264553/#139266501
>Megaman X was only barred because some people in the thread were pissed he was allowed in. I know he's a different character. The number of people who didn't want him was 224.

>I don't care. I really don't. So is all the other examples like Alice. I'm so fucking tired of people saying dumb shit to the host, then getting confused when the host goes nuclear instead of listening. I play the games and I don't want 2 Mega Man on the bracket. I don't want 8 Rolls. I don't want 3 Marios. This is fucking dumb.
No.93281
Anonymous
Replies:>>93282
>>93280
The post is so fucking retarded because literally all of the Megamen are not the same, nor are the Rolls.
No.93282
Anonymous
>>93281
That's implying NSA actually cares about respecting the wishes of the voters in any way.
I also find it funny how she mentions that "224 people didn't want him" completely out of context when that's barely 20% of the vote. 224 people out of 1114.
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>>93279
Is this about anons making OC of AM humilliating and torturing NSA? Kek
No.93284
Spideranon !!hAaBXjbZBz7
>>93165
Every version of the bot already has a hard coded limit for entry size, specifically to avoid something like that. I was considering removing said limit since I hadn't seen something as such done or suggested and some anons reported to me it was ignoring some ill-formatted but valid longer posts, but now that you said this, I'm re-thinking that.
No.93285
Anonymous
Replies:>>93287
>>93279
Certainly not impossible and might have missed it, but such as? So far I only recall some anons saying this might lead to a boost in pity votes, which is more of side effect of this becoming known if anything. And granted I'm just thinking of said campaigning being a dude screaming
>X CHARACTER WAS WRONGED BY NSA PLZ VOTE FOR THEM
on every thread but that would just be accused of falseflagging, and there a far more graceful and less intrusive ways of playing it in a way that fits the characters, its not like shitting on the hosts is some obscure habit or anything. Regardless, I think it's too early to fully tell the long term effects of this, but we'll see on which side the coin lands.
No.93287
Anonymous
Replies:>>93292
>>93285
Personally speaking, if people are going to vote for AM I would appreciate it if they are upfront about it being due to them genuinely taking fondness of his character and campaign, rather than voting out of pity.
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>This character made Nightshift angry
>This character would be funny if it beat another character
>This character is part of X alliance
>This character isn't part of X alliance
>This character is an underdog, you have to vote for them
>This character is at a disadvantage from the underdog paradox, you have to vote for them
>This character got some GETS
>This character almost made it a different year, they deserve it by now
>This character will never get this chance again, you have to vote for them now
>This character is a /tnt/ campooner pick, don't vote for them
>This character is a big bad silentfag, don't vote for them
Whatever the hell happened to just voting for the coolest character and using art/memes/roleplay autism to remind people why your character is the coolest one? So many of these arguments have nothing to do with the CHARACTER itself, as in what they're like in their source material, how they were written, what they look like, what they would do if they were written into a different franchise etc. THIS is what defines Metafaggotry.
No.93289
Anonymous
Personally none of my opinions have changed about the characters over the OFA thing.
No.93290
Anonymous
No.93291
Anonymous
>>93288
2021 irreversibly tainted the tourney's.
No.93292
Anonymous
Replies:>>93301
>>93287
That's the point of course, but what I'm speaking here is the scenario where it becomes a point of contemption (because there's always at least a round that is nothing but dramashit) and at least one nigga just skims throud the threads, finds the allegations and votes AM without a second thought (also depending on who he is up against). Again, it's too early to say for sure but it all depends on how /v/ were to handle it when the time comes
No.93293
Anonymous
>>93291
you aren't wrong
>worst winner average by a mile. Betty Boop was only chosen out of being the least shitty option left, Grievous is only /co/ on a technicality, Recette is actively loathed for being shilled by an obnoxious pedophile, Batter's source game is almost never discussed on /v/ and his campaign had almost nothing to do with the character itself
>Schizo alliance STILL has a stranglehold over /v/, will very likely continue with expected AM sweep or Isaac Clarke underdog
>Nightshift's rise to power
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>>93291
>tfw Batter failed us
No.93295
Anonymous
>>93293
>Worst winner
Stopped reading here
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>>93288
>arguments have nothing to do with the CHARACTER itself, as in what they're like in their source material, how they were written, what they look like, what they would do if they were written into a different franchise etc.
I think the elephant in the room no one wants to ackowledge here is that a lot of people obssesed with metafaggotry ultimately tend to be media illiterate, which leads into making up superficia or purely artificial reasons as to why one should vote for or against someone without revealing they have no idea what they are actually talking about. The anti-Silverfag is a good example of this; for how much he loves to complain about the character, at no point has he ever expressed an opinion that indicated he has actually watched Treasure Planet.
No.93297
Anonymous
>>93289
Agreed
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>>93288
why not both
No.93299
Anonymous
Replies:>>93302
>>93296
>A good example of media illiteracy in regards to metafaggotry is [person against meta aspects of tournaments]
Lol
No.93300
Anonymous
>>93293
I say so not based on the quality of the winners (that's another matter) but the circumstances behind their win. It was the big year of meta. Ms. was meta spited to death largely cause of the anti-popularity FARTS psyop. Grievous was the first full-on campaign winner over a traditionally more popular and apparent finalist (Hank). Recette was the big 'underdog' run going largely on one thread personality. And of course Batter was the big alliance win.
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>>93292
He's the most "fuck nightshift" vote out of King /v/ because NSA had a melty about Wesker losing to AM, and schizovoters are totally going to pretend they aren't voting for him based off of the alliance, which is just going to shift thread attention entirely toward AM, which means anons are going to say "he's totally not that bad, I'll vote for him anyway because this is a bad mean falseflag against people afraid of AM". And then as soon as he makes it to the finals drop every pretense and make it about the heckin' based schizo power of friendship which will be met with thunderous applause of "holy fucking kino, I gotta vote for schizorinos once again" and Jetstream Sam will smile and say "mfw we get a fourth schizo winner" which will send everybody into roaring laughter
There is no foreseeable factor beyond some campaign autism strength at the level of Batter and Fang combined that can or will stop him from utterly raping the entire bracket, the pattern is absurdly, blatantly obvious to follow. He has the perfect mix of genuine popularity behind him and contrarian asshole /v/ energy "Why yes, it WOULD be funny if we have yet another schizo winner" to obliterate, just like Jack Garland did.

The worst part? I don't even hate AM, he's pretty a fun character that always gets great art and roleplay made. But I wish 90% of his general appeal by this point wasn't all of this retarded metafaggotry baggage he's carrying, and I wish we could have another more conventional but still hyped vidya winner like Dante for King this year such as Phoenix Wright, Wario, Travis Touchdown, Raiden, JC Denton, Doomguy etc. But because I don't hate him like I could with someone like Battler or Alex Eagleston, which are entirely stupid meta jokes, I can't TRULY object to AM himself. I only lament the circumstances, and by God are these horrible circumstances. Just get this king over with now and make it 2025 already. I wish King wasn't the tournament I cared about the most, because I generally like everybody that wins Mr. /co/
No.93302
Anonymous
>>93299
>completely misses the point
Anyway, anti-Silverfag isn't someone who argues against the meta aspect of the tournament, he uses meta arguments to hide his hate for character he doesn't even know.
No.93303
Anonymous
Replies:>>93308
>>93302
Makes sense, has he been doing this for a time now?
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>>93301
>and schizovoters are totally going to pretend they aren't voting for him based off of the alliance
Yeah that's right, they are going to vote for him because they like the character!
No.93305
Anonymous
>>93288
Metaposting has /v/ on a chokehold right now but Mr. /co/ hasn't really been affected by meta as far as I've seen.
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>>93296
Actually, the media literacy is a really good argument to bring up if arguments for/against the character devolve to stupid shit like that. I wish other people went to effort to learn their matchups. As example I didn't know much about Skeletor other than Fabulous secret powers and him being the villain of He-man with the funny voice, so during the Mr /co/ 2023 finale I looked up a bunch of clips of Skeletor on Youtube to get an idea of what the character is like. And MAN is he funny. I don't think Masters of the universe is really a show that would appeal to me based on the rest of it I've seen, but absolutely every second I saw of Skeletor's laugh, or his insults against his stupid henchmen I absolutely loved. It's very easy to see why so many people rallied around him and got him to finally win.
No.93307
Anonymous
>>93301
So much whining and doomposting over him this early tells me he probably isn't winning. The higher contrarianism would be having all those factors and then still losing.
No.93308
Anonymous
Replies:>>93375
>>93303
Since Tag-team 2022 IIRC.
No.93309
Anonymous
Replies:>>93316
All this discussion and insanity surrounding him is exactly what AM would love to see us go through to torture us
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>>93305
Ms /co/ is even worse if you consider open spite to be a form of Meta. Qualifiers and Rounds 1 and 2 were an absolute bloodbath to drawfags and people with actual passion, and Wuya and Eris REALLY coasted off of being "the campaigner's champions". Hell, admittedly I voted for them off of that as well. I was so pissed off by the tremendously horrible taste of voters to kill off every character that wanted to be fun and sincere I just went with them as a "fuck you assholes" option without any familiarity of their source material because they at least still had autism, passion and fun behind them.
Makes me think, did Murder Drones, Nia, Tiff, and Loona losing so horribly help propel the Wuya and Eris finale?
No.93311
Anonymous
Replies:>>93312
>>93307
NTA but idk man, i haven’t seen this strong a character momentum entering the tournament since /co/’s Fang and we know what happened with her, and she didn’t have the momentum of supposedly being spited and such a hated figure who hosts raging over the character to the point of meltdowns.
At minimum the strongest character going into one since Fang, perhaps only Spinel was more of a powerhouse potential
No.93312
Anonymous
Replies:>>93318
>>93311
You saying 2024 AM could beat 2022 Garland?
No.93313
Anonymous
>>93310
>Makes me think, did Murder Drones, Nia, Tiff, and Loona losing so horribly help propel the Wuya and Eris finale?
No? Those are really niche series with diehards and newer in nature, so the diehards will vote them in but most will be confused who they even are or not give them precedence over older characters
Those are who’d I’d expect to lose round 1
No.93314
Anonymous
Replies:>>93315
>>93310
>Murder Drones, Nia, Tiff, and Loona
Aee tourneyheads trying to make these the plunderers of ms.?
No.93315
Anonymous
Replies:>>93335
>>93314
Only (You)
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>>93307
I get the feeling the whining and doomposting is mostly coming from a select vocal minority of posters here. Don't get me wrong, speculation about future tournament performance shouldn't be treated like a bannable offense, but it irks me that some anons here are still at it. The only truly meta argument you could say AM has to his advantage is the NSA controversy, and we are yet to see if that is going to have a big impact on votes if any at all.

>>93309
Kek this.
No.93317
Anonymous
Replies:>>93322
>>93313
Agreed. It's very easy to see why these characters would do better in Tag-team or a side tournament like Ms /aco/. What makes the side ones better is the rare chance of seeing a character who performs poor in the main tournament do well
No.93318
Anonymous
>>93312
Not that same anon but absolutely, without a question. Especially since now there's a high chance NSA "robbed" AM by rigging the results to have him obliterated by Garland after NSA's melty over her precious boy-toy Wesker losing to him, which will onyl garner sympathy and the underdog paradox. Jack's gotten weaker and AM's gotten stronger.
And the doomposting about AM has only made those in denial about him more obstinate to see him win in retaliation. By not thinking he's a threat, you're doing exactly what the doomposters and analysis types fear you doing.
There literally won't be a "tournament", none of the other choices matter. They'll all lose at the finals no matter who else crawls up there. King /v/ 2024 will be Pro-AM or Anti-AM like how King 2022 was Pro-Garland or Anti-Garland. That's legitimately, genuinely it.
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/tnt/ got weird
No.93321
Anonymous
>>93302
Wouldn’t this be a flaw of campaigning as a whole, if it’s becoming so meta and distant from the characters themselves it becomes mostly unrecognizable from how they are portrayed in official works?
No.93322
Anonymous
Replies:>>93325
>>93317
I really want to see what the Star Fox bro is up to in tag-team, such a bummer he lost to fucking LINK round one.
Especially since he mentioned wanting to get into drawing.
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>>93301
WOULD YOU QUIT WHINING? I CANNOT FOCUS ON DEVISING ANY MEANINGFUL STRATEGIES WHEN ALL I CAN HEAR IS YOUR COPING.
No.93324
Anonymous
>>93321
And don't think Silver in particular has this issue, nor does his detractor ever make such arguments when explaining his reasoning. Again, that guy doesn't come across as someone who has watched Treasure Planet.
No.93325
Anonymous
>>93322
In Link's defense he's in part carried by the CD-I Zelda which in part had a massive impact in early YouTube Poops and memes. I agree though Fox should have proceed at least one round
No.93326
Anonymous
No.93327
Anonymous
>>93321
I mean, not only did that NOT stop Batter, he's had a stranglehold over /v/ after winning ever since because of it.
Battler Uroshimiya and Alex Eaglestone are just warped into "what the fucks" by now, litterally nothing about their campaign versions have anything to do with their game versions.
Meta campaigning absolutely works, I think a lot of us are just have too much actual appreciation of the characters to warp them into something else.
But in Silver's case his campaigning has been.... admittedly mixed. Honestly the plunderer's thing should just be dropped, the stuff that focuses more on him being the cool treasure planet guy appeals a lot more rather than "OMEGA BASED TEE EN TEE PSYCHOANALYST BTFO NIGSHIT PLUNDERERS SWEEP". I like him, I want to see more of HIM and not the meta stuff. I still think the Anti-silver fag is a fucking retard and probably NSA crying.
Ironically he'd probably have won /v/ by now because of this, Mr /co/ is always the most straightforward out of every tournament while King /v/ is the opposite.
No.93328
Anonymous
>>93305
Mr /co/ is the only tournament (besides /mlp/) which mainly votes for characters because they're favorites while campaigning and OC acts as an additional boost, even if the character has a small camping presence (Courage) or a shitty campaign (Mr Krabs) they'll still likely win the round they're in because the character is liked
No.93329
Anonymous
>>93323
>AM just makes the pillar grow limbs and beats the shit out of anon
No.93330
Anonymous
Replies:>>93337
>>93328
>t. Squidward
No.93331
Anonymous
>>93327
>Still think the Anti-silver fag is a fucking retard and probably NSA crying
Blackhand confirmed she hasn’t been here and has never reacted to Silver in any direction from what I’ve seen
Are we just going to pretend every schizo or person we hate is NSA?
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>>93313
you're missing the point. of course some obscure characters are going to lose in round one, everyone knew it was over for Uzi as soon as they saw the bracket and that was fine. the issue is that characters with a lot of thread presence kept eating shit in every single round. a lot of OC makers decided to jump ship because their work wasn't being appreciated, and i don't blame them. sure, campaigning is about fun above all else, but if your mains lose and you have to move on to another character, and then they lose, and this keeps happening, you run out of patience real quick.
so the campaigners left, and the threads did what they always do when the campaigners leave: they go to shit. and the people who stuck around realize that you know, maybe giving the middle finger to our most passionate participants is a bad idea and we should stop doing it. and that's about the point where they rallied around Wuya and Eris.
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>>93332
Take my quads, you deserve them more
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>Take my quads, you deserve them more
No.93335
Anonymous
Replies:>>93342
>>93315
I'm not wanking them off as the campaign standards like a lot do.
No.93336
Anonymous
>>93327
>rather than "OMEGA BASED TEE EN TEE PSYCHOANALYST BTFO NIGSHIT PLUNDERERS SWEEP"
While that’s actually a reasonable comment, Silver's actual campaigning during Mr. /co/ hasn’t actually been at all like that. It's only that his roleplayer is a known avatarfag here.
No.93337
Anonymous
>>93330
revolving your campaign around the character that isn't even in the tournament and ignoring all your opponents in favor of posting about that character isn't a good campaign, even those DTVA shitters know how to campaign even though they know their characters are fucked
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>or a shitty campaign (Mr Krabs)
And now for the chaser!
No.93339
Anonymous
>>93328
QoV is also mainly character based. The only exception being 2021.
No.93340
Anonymous
>>93305
Most there is is some winning series spite, but that's in every tournament, and it's maybe eased up a bit if Kuzco doing decently is any indication. The Monarch still seems fucked though.
No.93341
Anonymous
>>93332
Yes I remember you, you're the dronetard that unironically thinks campaigns should be more important than majority likability. Your series simply is not accepted enough. The tourneys don't go to shit because of that, but because you react the way you do.
No.93342
Anonymous
Replies:>>93346
>>93335
They aren't "the" campaign standards, they were just exceptionally shitty round 1 losses given the circumstances. I mean, the fact people cared more about them losing more than their competition winning says a lot about what was offered
No.93343
Anonymous
how did squidward become mr. krabs' rival instead of, oh i don't know, plankton?
No.93344
Anonymous
>>93343
Autism.
No.93345
Anonymous
>>93343
the weakest always goes for the strongest and Squidward is the strongest, Plankton is third strongest behind him and SpongeBob
No.93346
Anonymous
Replies:>>93451
>>93342
So what you’re saying is they have the whiniest, most spiteful fans.
Even when my mains lose (and they pretty much always do). Instill just go for the better characters. No ‘middle finger’ to tourney bullshit.
No.93347
Anonymous
Replies:>>93349
>>93332
I’m sorry, don’t care how nice your drawing ability is or how well you articulate your campaign posts, you aren’t entitled to wins because you draw. It might convince me if the choice between two is undecided but I’m not going to vote some Murder Drones character over Johnny Bravo just because there’s nice art.
And most people’s mains won’t ever actually qualify for a tournament, if you’re so entitled to leave because your own specific main choice is out you probably don’t care for tournaments as a whole and it isn’t the best place to funnel your efforts
No.93348
Anonymous
>>93271
Was NSA pro or anti skub?
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>>93347
>And most people’s mains won’t ever actually qualify for a tournament, if you’re so entitled to leave because your own specific main choice is out you probably don’t care for tournaments as a whole and it isn’t the best place to funnel your efforts
i went out of my way to address this exact point in my post and you just restated it, did you even read what i said?
No.93351
Anonymous
>>93343
Forced Meme
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>2024 is going to be entirely about AM and whether or not he stands on his own or if we don't want another schizo alliance winner
>2025 is going to be entirely about Eggman and whether or not he really finally deserves the crown after getting finals twice or is shit and finished
>we have to wait until the end of 2026 minimum for that to have a normal tournament, and that's assuming both AM and Eggman are out of the running for good
King /v/ is just fucked, maybe I should stick to /tnt/ for the /v/ boys
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>Barely any metafaggotry even with the actual silent picks
>No doomposting future characters or alliance drama (Plunderers barely count, it was three people)
>Most mild drama
>Past winners are unanimously beloved and even years later there are zero regrets on how things turned out
Yeah, Mr. /co/ has the best tournaments
No.93355
Anonymous
Replies:>>93360
>>93353
AM, send this plumber to the rape elevator.
No.93356
Anonymous
>>93353
I really doubt it'll be that bad because 1. King isn't until December, meaning there's still plenty of time for this to all blow over, and 2. this place is a lot smaller than both /co/ and /v/, so because something heavily concerns this board doesn't mean the same will apply to the other two.
No.93357
Anonymous
AM will job R1 to my HERO Pepsiman and there is nothing any of you can do about it.
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>implying
lol
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>>93355
Reminder that the elevator connects to the cathedral and dungeon
No.93361
Anonymous
>6 people found dead in Mojave Desert
What did NSA mean by this?
No.93363
Anonymous
Replies:>>93364
>>93353
[spoiler]ngl I wanted Eggman to lose on round 4 to hopefully have AM vs Eggman this year. could have been interesting me thinks[spoiler]
No.93364
Anonymous
Replies:>>93365
No.93365
Anonymous
Replies:>>93367
>>93364
dude you can just delete
No.93366
Anonymous
If you're spiting the whole tourney with meta and underdogs or whatever cause your picks lost you're a fag and deserve to lose. Tourneys are not just about who's shelling out the most vocal support.
No.93367
Anonymous
>>93365
that's the quitter's route.
No.93369
Anonymous
Replies:>>93405
Can't wait for the AM sweep
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>>93361
Bros... Maybe one of those is Stats' body!
No.93371
Anonymous
At least King still has their first two out of five. I just want a normal, non-meta and fucked with ms. winner for once. So far there has only been Jenny, the first out of six.
No.93372
Anonymous
>>93371
>At least King still has their first two out of five.
Is Jack all of a sudden a meta champion? I thought he was the expected outcome after all.
No.93373
Anonymous
Replies:>>93374
>>93371
It's never happening due to /co/ being ASSAULTED and RAPED by seven sparkling gems in the cold, windy fall of 2019.
No.93374
Anonymous
>>93373
The chaos emeralds?
No.93375
Anonymous
Replies:>>93398
>>93308
A lot of 'anti-Silverfag" posts have probably been mine. I don't hate Silver but I always though the whole plunderer thing being the golden boys of /tnt/ and campaigning was overrated. Seeing their recent performance here though I'm thinking I may have been overrating how overrated they are.
No.93376
Anonymous
>>93372
Jack had a massive FOTM boost and is widely considered to suck as a winner.
No.93377
Anonymous
Replies:>>93379
>>93372
Jack isn't really meta. Meta would've been if he lost to someone because people expected him to sweep.
>>93376
I still like him. He's recent but he is still undeniably a /v/ icon for the time and his game was genuinely good.
No.93378
Anonymous
Replies:>>93388
Jack Frost is meta, Jack Garland is meta.
Know the difference.
No.93379
Anonymous
>>93376
I don't hate Jack as a winner but it vexes me that I predicted around a year ago that in time people would stop being so defensive over him and eventually develop voter's regret. As of right now he feels like the most overshadowed Ko/v/ champion.
>>93377
Yeah exactly, Jack wasn't a meta win.
No.93380
Anonymous
>>93119
Guess Black Hat could be the 100, 0.
No.93383
Anonymous
Could Garland have been stopped? Some seemed so certain he was unstoppable, but I wonder what would happen if he did fight JC or Phoenix instead. There's also still the possibility AM was rigged against because of NightFansArt's melty.
No.93385
Anonymous
>>93332
Dinofag was right, enjoy being round 1 fodder. Just try not to talk yourselves up too much this year ok?
No.93386
Anonymous
>>93383
Probably not. You would have to look for other years, like Armstrong or finale Batter, for someone that might've been a match.
No.93387
Anonymous
>>93383
Considering how relatively well Jack Frost did against him in the finale all while being Jack Frost, I think JC or Travis could have taken him down.
No.93388
Anonymous
Replies:>>93389
>>93378
Enough metagaming. It's time for unorthodoxgaming.
No.93389
Anonymous
Replies:>>93390
>>93388
The only way to actually combat meta is to just ignore it and vote who you like. Anything else is meta.
No.93390
Anonymous
>>93389
This.
No.93391
Anonymous
Replies:>>93392
Why is everyone hypocritical when it comes to metagaming? It feels like metagaming is only okay when it's a universally loved character.
No.93392
Anonymous
Replies:>>93393
>>93391
>another dude who doesn't know what metagaming is
No.93393
Anonymous
Replies:>>93394
>>93392
Campaigning is inherently meta anon.
No.93394
Anonymous
>>93393
No, that's not what people mean by "meta" in this context.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Terminology#Metagaming
No.93396
Anonymous
While we are on the topic of Garland, something that caught my attention in NSA's response from the beginning of the month when adressing the concerns over AM was this part of her statement
>"I saw AM losing in a huge margin at first. It was concerning. I had to check for rigging, but I couldn't find anything. So I checked Jack’s previous previous matches. I could not find a hint of cheating of that magnitude."
That's a VERY specific thing to mention, even worse with the knowledge of how much of a compulsive liar NSA is. Really activates my almonds.
No.93397
Anonymous
>already almost time for number fucking 7
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>>93327
>>93375
I agree that the whole plunderer thing should straight up be dropped, but for different reasons. For one and this was unbeknownst to them, was that it was made by fucking NUMNUTS. Chrisanon was the first guy who suggested for there to be a team formed but he was kicked out as soon as the whole drama ensued about tag team 2021.

Secondly, the alliance is basically dead. Zorak Won, Ruber hasn't qualified since 2021, and Silver is a early round jobber. So it is literally only two members left, and only one is really active in any extent. These two stand great on their own so it isn't so detrimental for them to break the alliance (although they can still work great for a tag-team). What I really find mindfucking is the fact that the plunderers might've been the source of the whole alliance autism as the plunderers were also formed at the tail end of Mr. /co/ 2021
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>discussion for King is all about how likely AM and Eggman is gonna win
>don't give a shit about those 2 at all
Please, give me Travis or Phoenix or something...
No.93400
Anonymous
>>93399
AM VILL VIN AND YOU VILL LIKE IT.
No.93401
Anonymous
Replies:>>93411
>>93399
My bet's are still on one of those two or Wario. I'm still not convinced at the giga unbeatable powerhouse status of AM and if this much meta arguing about him carries into KoV he's probably chocking at or near the end.
No.93402
Anonymous
We're about to have a new thread! Let's have a Homestuck OP next! Who's with me?
No.93403
Anonymous
Replies:>>93406
Realistically, who could've beaten 2022 Fang?
No.93404
Anonymous
>>93399
I always loved myself an underrated winner. This is why I liked Grimm. I never actually cared for BS prior to queen /v/ where that anon gave the links on downloading both games. After beating every single route and DLC I was fucking hooked on it as I thought it was just the funny rape game when it turned out it was actually a lot deeper than it looks.

I don't have a problem with popular contestants winning but I always prefer underrated and GOOD contestants.
No.93405
Anonymous
>>93369
>AM vs Wario round 1
No.93406
Anonymous
Replies:>>93417
No.93409
Anonymous
>>93404
Based, I wish more underrated good picks won.
No.93410
Anonymous
>>93383
Battler with his 2022 hype and accumulated hype tokens after surviving an additional 2 rounds could have possibly taken him out
No.93411
Anonymous
>>93401
I already gave my reasonings as to why I don't believe the "AM is going to be an unbeatable powerhouse" narrative. As always, the characters that generate the most pre-tournament discussion often don't end up winning, it just attracts spitevotes.
No.93414
Anonymous
new thread
>>93412
No.93415
Anonymous
>>93404
>implying Grimm wasn't a fan-favorite
>implying Grimm wasn't a high seed
>implying Grimm was the underdog vs Eggman
No.93416
Anonymous
Replies:>>93420
ACTUAL new thread >>93407
No.93417
Anonymous
>>93406
Lmao no
No.93420
Anonymous
>>93416
>made new thread early
>mindbroken over homestuck
your thread is bad and you should feel bad
No.93451
Anonymous
>>93346
>comically missing the point
No.93838
Anonymous
>>92009
He meant that NSA was going to assassinate him.

If Balls was still here while everything from the last month has been going down, he could've shed some light on what was happening in the tournaments only he and NSA were there for and help everyone understand if NSA was lying about stuff like Perifag gigarigging or AM being stomped by Garland.

But he's not here, because he was assassinated by NSA. Tragic.