/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>77648
>One of the main catches for me is that this all implies NSA is way more competent than you’d believe from some of his previous fuck-ups.
In retrospect, NSA willy-nilly sharing the same Discord he used to contact Dominos and Brackets back in 2021 is something that falls within his field of competence.

Let's not forget Tourney Anon/Numnuts attempted to become his co-host during Ms. /co/ 2022 under the name "LazyDay", and weren't it for anons here asking Black Hand because many of us were suspicious, he would have likely never been exposed before Mr. /co/lympus 2022.

OFA could be ghost

>>77674
If he does get nominated next year I’ll vote for him anyway

>>77658
It’s because of that fag his paranoia and vetting process exists.

>>77678
Actually, NSA hinted in this old post how he already had some kind of vetting process in mind. This was way before Numnuts was exposed.
>>11414
>I’m not the main host. LazyDay is. I’m not well versed in /v/ like him. He’s going to be helping me in Mr. /co/ this year so he can start small. Learn the ropes, and I’ll be monitoring/assisting him in Queen /v/. Then once he’s past his apprentice period he can run the tourneys on /v/ without me handholding.

>>77679
Yeah but it justified him being way more strict about it, and effectively just holding power indefinitely. It also convinced people at the time "he may suck but he's best we got."

>>77674
boy if this was the final of the losers bracket for Mr then it'd be the best losers bracket of the year but because of the final it's just equal to King's losers bracket

>>77680
>It also convinced people at the time "he may suck but he's best we got."
Don't forget all the schizo tripfags that decided to come out of the woodwork when he asked us if he should step down in the Mr 2022 finale poll.

>>77681
You mean bottom bracket because that's what that is referring to? The Mr Loser's Bracket was a mess. It was good at first, but ended pretty badly because of lack of planning and a disaster at the end where the host of it gave up with the main tournament ending and had 4 or so rounds only last an hour causing profilic picks to lose by just a handful of votes and OC campaigners were still doing not being able to get done. Livesey was a good winner of it, but Jack O'Latern was robbed because his supporters admitted they didn't even get a chance to vote for him.

>>77683
I should clarify Livesey and Jack weren't facing each other.

>>77682
Which dare I say may have been him falseflagging.

>>77683
I tapped out of the loser's bracket in Mr. because there were so many repeat matches

>>77685
It begs the question why he hasn't presented us with the same opportunity since then when he is clearly aware his reception is not good at all. If anything, it has worsened considerably since 2022.

I'm still not over fuckin Goo getting to not only qualify, but also be in the top 30 seeds. What? Just so you know, we could've gotten Hello Nurse if she didn't.

>>77683
I meant Bottom

>>77688
That's honestly the 2nd fishiest thing about the whole OFA NSA connection. OFA apparently was a Goo fan.
>>77691
The biggest problem is goo is just too irrelevant. She was never even close in seeding years prior, then suddenly she gets top 30 seed for no reason?
NSA did say he had to remove something like 200 votes in qualifier, so maybe it's just a very weird voting result of that.

>>77691
I have to wonder how much of OFA having drawn fanart of this specific character is just a coincidence.

>>77695
There was some controversy over how previous top 16 from 2022 like Captain Amelia and Creepy Susie failed to qualify in place of something like Goo.

>>77640
Has anyone considered the possibility that the magma chat screenshot was photoshopped? Accusers have done this type of thing before on other sites to different people and some have had it out for Onlyfansart since the /v/ tournaments because of the muzzle art of Amaterasu that made people upset getting pinned on her. The autistic reactions and the things the Erika avatarfag said in the King of /v/ Afterparty when exposing Onlyfansart makes it so I could see someone go this far. I'm not saying the screenshot is no longer viable to mention and I know there is other evidence, but I want to bring up the possibility the chat itself is fake and that the screenshot is not the definitive proof of guilt.

>>77707
This was literally my theme song for this years Ms. /co/
Dion - The Wanderer (1961) 4K
There was literally no point in having a main because they 100% were getting outed in the next round.

>>77709
Are you the same guy that said the Amaterasu muzzle art made you cry?

>>77704
hmm yeah this is getting really weird now.

>>77710
Haha no.

>>77708
At least the two finalists Wuya and Eris were getting a bunch of passionate art and support from the very beginning. I have absolutely no connection with their source material I just supported both as a disgruntled artfag

>>77704
You know, I wondered how he was able to get winner art out so fast.

>>77704
>think we should take these screenshots with a grain of salt since it's Numnuts we are dealing with
Entirely disregarded and you're probably him since he lies so much

>>77715
Isn’t Numnuts banned from posting here?

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These are the most important posts to highlight, I think.

Very early predictions for this year's elite 8 and how they'll do in 2025:

Ms.
Eris, Toph and Raven are perennial favorites, even odds for one of them to take the crown. Harley and EVE could return, even though both of their runs this year were kind of fluky (sympathy and silent campaigns, respectively). Alex and Clover, as great as they are, probably won't make it this far again.

Mr.
Hank and Jack are almost assuredly returning. Zim, Optimus and SpongeBob had their breakthrough years and could also find their way back in if not this year, then some future year. Like Harley, Dale was hard-carried by the death of his voice actor, and I just don't see Farquaad returning for the time being.

>>77721
Eris is probably SHIT and FINISHED zoned.
Raven can nake E8 again but is simply never taking the crown if she remains silent. Purely silent characters cannot win at this point.
Toph is a favorite and in theory could/should win of she brings the same energy as this year. But ms. is too weird and hard to predict and a legacy powerhouse winning is too sensible.
Hank and Jack could definitely win. It’d be overdue for both of them. Zim too. If runner up curse is ever getting broken it’d be from Mr. /co/. I kind of doubt it though.
2025 will be the last year to make super all stars btw.

>>77725
>"Super All Stars"
>Potentially half of the winners are asterisked after latest controversy
Yeah this is never going to be a real thing, nor does it indicate they are they best characters

>>77726
Which?

>>77726
It’s just for fun m8.

>>77728
That doesn't excuse potential rigging that ruins the fun.

>>77742
/pol/ bait?

>>77721
These are actually quite easy.

>Eris
I will say she’s not the biggest character to hit Elite Eight three times in a row and I’m even more skeptical she can return to finals immediately again. Still, she’s a huge vocal favorite and very notably the only one from 2021’s controversial line-up to return to E8 this year. (Bellum put up a fight at least.) Barring awful luck, either she returns or gets closer.
>Toph
I don’t see her losing relevance and her stigma is largely dead after this year. If she has similar energy next time, then she’s one of the safest shots to Elite Eight. Could even win if people crave an old favorite in year eight.
>Raven
While not quite as vocal as the above, basically everything else applies. She has the added caveat of her unfortunate 2019 loss.
>Harley
She’s not going away, but not sure if she can keep translating that into support. Harley will most likely keep acting as a filter and maybe return to E8 again with enough luck. A huge campaign could make it a safer bet, but as of right now that’s not the case. She also had a real-life event to boost her this time, as stated.
>EVE
She’s among the strongest silent picks, but that also keeps her from being invincible. I feel her bracket this year was among the easiest to plow through and she still got hit with 8th.
>Alex
She seems to be the main favorite from TS, yet I feel it will be hard to get the show back in E8. Still, if people try campaigning it’s at least possible.
>Clover
I really wasn’t expecting the double dip this year. Not counting out a return, but she seems even less likely than Alex. Still, she does have lead bias.

>Zim
He’s a consistent favorite and only has one real fluke loss against Dan Backslide. Otherwise, he plays with elites and could definitely return unless any stigmas actually ate at him (see end of last thread).
>Jack
I think he could outright win. It will take serious effort to take him down.
>Optimus Prime
He had one of the most positively-received runs this year. I see him qualifying consistently going forward and could see another strong run next time unless he gets unlucky.
>Hank
Slightly less durable than Jack, but another strong pick to win in year eight. Feel runner-up curse won’t matter much here.
>SpongeBob
He’s proven himself to be actually potent, and coming off Squidward’s run last year seems to point in more interest in his show doing well in at least Mr. /co/. He’s not as concrete as others and would need some campaigning again, but I feel SpongeBob will at least do alright once he returns.
>Dale
He had a fun campaign last year that sadly got muddled by fears of pity voting this year. Dale is still a fan favorite and won’t be forgotten, but I do think his cons will keep him down. Smaller chance he could also be hit if he’s absent from the revival AND said revival is actually a hit on /co/.
>Farquaad
Much as I enjoyed his campaign, I feel he may be one-and-done.

Really, I’d say the first three from Ms. /co/ and first five from Mr. are all on the table to watch.

>>77674
If this match was held in the finals, it would've made the Mr. /co/ bottom the best bottom tourney this year. Its just disappointing that this match happened in the semi-finals and it had in turn the most anti-climatic finals.

>>77747
K, b, c.

>>77717
>I've known way beforehand and even predicated that NSA was going to be someone who participates and campaigns
How come? Altough well, we have known NSA favors thread activity-oriented rules for a while.

>>77751
>Tiff was one of NSA's favorites as well
Uhhh Tiffbros?
https://www.deviantart.com/onlyfansart/art/Dress-Up-990323618

Those fucking muzzle doodles have to be the single most impactful and debated piece of OC in these tournaments ever.

>>77754
At least it's not the most viewed OC, that honor still goes to Jack and Simon's gay wedding.

>>77754
First we have to figure out once and for all if NSA and OFA are the same person. Speculating over the authority of those doodles and serious rigging allegations come later.

>>77754
Who would have 2 that scribbles would lead to all this, and even more if it DOES turn out that NSA and OFA are the same person.

>>77759
But I thought OFA liked Bayonetta and mained her, who lost pretty harshly to Amaterasu, a "Furry" which the hosts have had no secret in disliking. If they were the same person, I would imagine even if Bayo did lose he would've at least shifted the numbers to be much closer, not 60-40 blowout. It doesn't make sense.

>>77760
Getting 2nd place zoned is the real punishment.

>>77762
>Battler fails to even attempt deliver on the 47 vs Battler hype after years of anticipation and thread derailment
>An Erikafag witch hunts an artist and throws a bunch of shit and drama towards them
Umineko is such a blight to these tourneys, jeez

>>77765
Is NSA Brazilian?

>>77763
Yeah let's not do a repeat of that one King of /v/ Afterparty thread.

>>77763
Hey there's a difference, we're not witch hunting an an artist, we're witch hunting a shitty host who just happens to be an artist
>b-but OFA isn't NSA!
Give me one good reason why that artist would share NSA's discord when asked for contact information, if said artist is not NSA.

>>77762
Use Saucenao, that's not OFA's art

It doesn't matter. Where's Goku?

>>77771
>Pays Hermano.

>>77773
Ammybros…

>>77773
Notice how this was posted at the beginning of Losers Finals, when complaints and arguing dominatd the threads.
Also, is this the one Shodan artist anons kept complaining about?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/657338308/#657338916

>>77773
the real crime is that he never gave us the SHODAN lewds

>>77775
>fits NSA's exact pattern of speech
>fits NSA's exact motives; he was with the ammyfags at first because of their big campaigning presence, but when they became the most vocal critics of his beloved losers bracket he turned against them
Listen I'm just saying if NSA was in fact the muzzlefag it would simply fit. Makes you wonder if he rigged it so that Amaterasu would lose against SHODAN (i was going to check the losers finals docs, but for some reason all the result docs from semi-finals to losers finals have been deleted)

>>77782
also
>NSA admits he doesn't know shit about vidya
>artist asks what SHODAN is from
It activates the almonds.

>>77784
>all the result docs from semi-finals to losers finals have been deleted
They have?

>>77784
I think SHODAN beat Amaterasu by something like 20 votes.

>>77786
I hope any of our hosts can pick up it.

>>77780
>right underneath that post is the Shazam vocaroo
In hindsight, that was some excellent foreshadowing to what he did in King

>>77787
►Semi-finals results:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbSmSOnPHKYH7L7H8rCfgsFxCjYUwQiHj_q2bFwcBj8/edit
►Winners Finals results:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yc2s1l-ma6nd25_oVOR2lftLgVIFTu-CzsF_CrvOq1I/edit
►Loser's Finals Results: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LCb8d8nObesF1JzWzeeWr53Nm6MCPPcLb3G0Cna2gEg/edit
FYI the rest of the results are still up, just those ones in particular were deleted for some reason. https://pastebin.com/7wbLcyGq

>>77784
I think it was actually only 15, that video gave her a huge push but it was unfortunately kind of late

>>77791
What the hell.

>>77791
lolwut. for what purpose?

>>77791
Why were the rest deleted?

So was Midna rigged?

>>77797
What even happened to Balls? His final posts were very strange. One of them said something like "I thought I had more time left".

>>77784
You know, funniest outcome is if he WAS the guy who did the muzzle art and Onlyfans was just framed for it. I could see it.

>>77760
This is what I’ve been saying. Bayo also lost to Roll for 3rd place, which was something even easier to fake.

>>77768
>Give me one good reason why that artist would share NSA's discord when asked for contact information, if said artist is not NSA.
>>77706

>>77799
My personal guess, granted, GUESS, is that he became a dad. I mean, he did mention going to the hospital earlier, due dates can sometimes be later than what actually happens. Considering how rushed his exit was I don't blame him if he left because his wife was having contractions or something like that. I wouldn't give a shit about 4chan if I had a new baby on hand.

>>77804
That would be the optimistic surmise at least.

>>77803
Yeah I think what we're forgetting is that OFA is way too talented to be Nightshift, a faggot

>>77802
We have been assuming all along NSA and OFA being the same person and a rigger can't be mutually exclusive.
Actually, didn't Balls also have access to the sheets?

>>77806
A lot of drawfags are huge faggots.

Is Silveranon still here?

>>77777
powerful

>>77803
That's just an unfounded guess, maybe I'd agree with that line of reasoning if there wasn't all this evidence connecting the two identities. Again crap like NSA posting a brand new fully rendered OC image made just for Fang's results, which seems to fit with OFA's artstyle, and Goo mysteriously getting a 29 seed after not qualifying for years on the one year where OFA took an interest in her.

>>77806
It's not unheard of for a skilled artist to have a troublesome character. Online artist circles are frequently filled to the brim with drama and conflict.

>>77812
This! NSA was right!

>>77812
Your the fag that made that silent vs campaigner doodle you keep posting aren't you.

>>77817
He's not, because I am
No I'm not going to source it for sure, but I just am

I have read the acronym OFA so many times in the last few hours my brain is beginning to automatically read it as TOFA as in "Tifa".

>>77721
Optimus was an incredibly strong run and he could've easily won, he only lost to Zim by 10 votes. I think he'll be back and is a serious candidate to take it all.

>>77818
Literally all people need to do is just be vocal for their picks, this isn't something that's hard to do.

>>77764
Both these feel so in character for them.

>>77822
Really not at all a secret. While they haven't won yet, Wario and Eggman as examples generally do very well because they're popular enough they would've made it far even without much support. Getting drawfags behind them boosts them significantly. Skeletor is a VERY beloved character, even by people that never watched He-man, so him winning when he got a fun, in-character campaign on top of a big backlog of previous year campaigning was a logical outcome

>>77821
Which Autobot should replace him next year?

>>77780
he's not exactly THE shodan artist for that year

>>77826
I saw people suggesting Rodimus but I dont think he's popular enough among casual voters to get the same support.

>>77826
I'd rather see Megatron or Starscream step in as the Transformers rep while Optimus is out.

>>77816
The funny thing is NSA or any of the other hosts being OC creators wouldn't matter if they showed the results directly from the google poll; the only reason people are concerned about the NSA/OFA connection is because of the potential that he's rigging the characters he's drawn OC for.
But since we're still doing the closed forms shit we can't tell for sure if the results are legitimate or not, it's the same problem with the 2018 finals.

>>77812
Yes, this is the correct way to vote. This isn't a roleplay contest chosen by /tnt/ and discord.
It's based on a character's longevity, strength of content, strength of personality, and how greatly the represent the board and the medium. That's how voting was done in 2018 and how it was done in 2023.
You want this to be /v/ where they choose literal who indie games no one heard of because a Discord directed their userbase to vote and post fanart. That's not what this competition is

>>77830
What I said in the other thread; we should have never given so much power over the results to a single person.

>>77822
No one "needs" to do anything but vote. What you're ultimately voting for (or should be at least) is your favorite and preferred character, and that goes for the whole board, not just tourney autists (/tnt/ tourneys being the exception of course cause everyone here is a tourney autists). OC and campaigning adds a lot of fun and gives certain characters sway and narrative, but it shouldn't turn into a meta circlejerk or be solely based on engagement (like NSA tries hard to push). Stuff like voting for a character you know jack about but purely on art as some kind of meta statement >>77713 is unironically being a campooner. Like you may as well give Hex QoV.
That being said pretty much all characters that get far do have some sort of vocal support. There's been an annoying trend out of this philosophy in recent years that anyone not getting massive constant support or was already a pre-disposed campaign favorite is silent, or a bad character because of it. It got especially annoying last KoV. Like look what happened to Kiryu.

>>77831
I believe Eggman absolutely deserved the win this year, but this post largely feels spiteful towards a more meta pick like Grimm taking the crown. The Discord point was largely shot down after people looked further into it.

If you're also considering Cave Story of all things a "literal who indie game", then you don't have much ground to complain about /v/'s taste.

This is probably going to be the event that causes the death of campaigning for a long while until it resurges in a few years as trendy

Nothing against Skeletor, but I still stand on the hill that Zim vs. Farquaad would've been an extra kino ending.

>>77836
>manlet ending

>>77825
It's still kinda crazy to me that Skeletor went up against four single-digit seeds, including the top two seeds back-to-back, and he still came out on top. Makes me wonder how things would've played out for him in 2019 and 2021 had he not lost in quarter-finals both times.

>>77835
>killing off campaigning because of one fag host who already had a spotty track record
I know some voters can be reactionary, but this seems like a stretch. At most it might hurt more off-the-wall picks from hitting finals, despite those honestly being the clear minority.

>>77836
>short king ending

>>77833
I vote for who I like but if they end up silentfagging their ass across the entire tournament I'm gonna eventually gonna stop liking them, I want thread engagement because otherwise the threads are pointless and you don't get them from quiet picks.

>>77839
To be fair NSA is very pro-campaign and pro-roleplay to the point he forced randomized brackets against everyone's will so that it encouraged more of those characters to get farther then they would with a standardized seeding

>>77841
>thinking AM will actually win after his wipes by Garland and Denton

>>77843
>to the point he forced randomized brackets against everyone's will
I wanted those and I know a good number of anons who at least wanted to try them. Wasn't there a proper vote on them as well?

>>77843
I kindof like randomized brackets, it went to shit when it wasn't even random and the hosts just picked whatever they desired

>>77834
While I think that anon is a bit spiteful too, the Discord point wasn't completely shot down. There were two polls on the matter with one believing it and one against it. There's also this >>76944 where the hosts for some reason didn't bother digging deeper into the situation. I'm not saying coayynon himself is at fault or even that Grimm rigging is true, but if we are choosing to be skeptical of hosts, I don't think choosing to still be skeptical of Grimm is too far out.

>>77847
I don't even mind if AM won. I'm just pointing out that he's already had a huge run and it didn't pay off like those other two.

>>77832
Well we've got a year to figure things out. There's probably still a lot that can be found out about NSA and his connection to any potential rigging, and if it's outright confirmed that he's a giga rigger then we'll also have time to come up with a contingency. The other hosts are still relatively active here anyways. Or at the very least maybe get NSA to go back to open forms so there's not all this suspicion about host rigging

>>77842
I don't think threads are the most important voting factor, to me at least. Campaign sway is fine but some people (the most vocal and active of course) take it too far and want to make it primarily meta. Basically forgetting it's ultimately a board tourney, and not a tourney general wank. Meta has gotten way too far to ever separate now but that doesn't mean it can't still be about straight up favorite character in the end.

>>77841
AM was included in the schizo alliance because he is genuinely insane and derranged as hell. "Allied Mastercomputer" isn't his actual name either, he renamed himself as just AM when he fully realized his sentience.
>Cogito ergo sum. I think therefore I AM.
Calling him Allied Mastercomputer is kind of like the equivalent to referring to Jenny as XJ9.

>>77834
It's a difference philosophy wise on who a winner should be.
I don't think /v/ picks good winners and I don't think they even think about who they are voting for and why, just who at the moment is making the best art or especially spamming the threads the most. They don't even think about stuff like loser's bracket and what that might entail, just that it's more wild or unique. And a lot of their picks are based of the "craziest schizo posts" even if the character is insanely obscure and irrelevant, especially the last several years.
/co/ actually thinks about who should win and why, and in almost all cases it follows that to a t and the one that didn't was already found as rigged by outside influences. Even Zorak, /co/'s designated campaign winner, has very legitimate connections to the development of the medium and representation of the board to be justified as a winner.
I think /v/'s tournament picks are the worst of what a tournament could be and that Discord drama exemplified why their tournaments are lacking.

>>77841
AM shouldn't be held back by two winners he has nothing to do with. None of his campaigning last year had anything to do with schizos or alliances anyways.

>>77854
>Samus and Armstrong aren't good winners

>>77841
>>77847
As someone who has been pretty vocal about being tired of the all Kings being the same two things, I'm not going to just spitevote AM because of him being a big part of the schizos. Spitevoting sucks, his fans put in a lot of effort, and AM would at least be a genre, decade, and large design departure.

>>77854
>I don't think /v/ picks good winners
They absolutely have in most cases with Queen. Even Recette was a narrow win over Madotsuki, who would have felt more in line with the other four. I do agree that King has had way more picky taste after Dante, but it's good to point out the distinction here.

>>77854
4 ways are horrible for /v/
For Loser's finale "honest" people were split between Wario, Peppino, and Jacket
Meanwhile all of the shit posters said "Wowwee, le Jobbler!", derailed the final threads to the point Eggman and Grimm were barely even discussed anymore, and voted him to win by an overwhelming margin. Seriously, there's gotta be like 4-5 Battler posters that actually even played Umineko because I never see anything game-specific about him

>>77856
They are, but they are the OGs in the earliest installment for each before that board's tourney culture took hold
Same with /co/ also, those first picks are great but the first Ms /co/ had around 150 girls nominated

>>77857
Why do we always get biased hosts, Jesus Christ.

>>77857
I think that one art, but there should be more examples of him actually being OFA. I'm not entirely doubting it, but do we know for a fact there's actually only one person who's drawn Black Hat art? As pointed out, there's also way less art of him on OFA's DeviantArt account compared to the others.

>what I mean by this is that he intentionally rigged OR falseflagged the shit out of the furries into advancing so he could launch a false idea of making himself the messiah of the tournament, in turn gaining the trust of the masses into voting him to "remove" the rigged votes
I do still think the whole furry targeting was strange, but at the same time it's a harder assumption to claim it was all to benefit his image. That's not even to mention that it failed spectacularly if that was the case.

Hasn't it also been shown that he barely even changes votes? Yeah, you could argue it only works in fringe cases, but it's also fair to assume he simply isn't all that good at picking out genuine rigging.

My main problem with all this is that there's a lot of assumptions being made. It also seems to largely focus on Ms. /co/ 2022 in particular, which was actually right before the direct form results stopped being open.

>>77857
>im giving the second place to Chel (another great point on OnlyFansart being NSA as he's the sole artist to do so) despite Shirley being second, is by definition RIGGING.
Oh great the Shirley Discord faggots are still seething about getting caught.
I'm surprised you held yourself from mentioning Fang to make it too obvious. Or you earlier bitched about Goo (who could very well have been backdoored illegitimately, who truly knows) randomly qualifying but somehow a character who has never qualified before (and got nominated once in 4 years) making it to the finals was 100% legit

>>77857
Thanks doc, you nailed it.
Here's to hoping we can find a way to keep this faggot as far away from the tournaments as possible.

>>77862
No Giygas definitely is a schizo, he doesn't even have a body in earthbound because both his body and mind went completely insane after Mother 1
That being said you're right, I largely see campaigning based on him being the cool alien
Same goes for Jacket, yes he's nutty but most campaign art I see is of him being the cool 80's aesthetic violent guy, which is exactly what his games are about.

>>77857
I kind of agree at this point. Too many coincidences and weird connections.
I was saying it all last Ms. /co/ but it was bullshit that we lost half the voterbase and NSA outright admitting he was removing hundreds of votes. It made every result feel somewhat illegitimate. Not that perifag wasn't rigging but it's an easy pass for NSA to go Stalin mode on the tournament.
Also his insistence on pushing campaign/thread activity oriented rulings and refusal to poll and sometimes even outright scorning popularity considerations was odd. Now of course it'd make sense. He was one of the most avid campaigners and drawfags.

>>77866
Bruh Fang is something like 10% of ALL /co/ oc, people love Dinosaurs, and Primal Season 2 threads were absolutely sweeping the board. I agree Shirley definitely didn't organically reach second but literally the only thing Chel did of note that year was get shoved up someone's ass

>>77871
No I think he gives a pretty clear criteria. Basically board and medium legacy and widespread favor. It's a pretty good reason to 'deserve" to win a board character voting tournament. You talk about assholes whining but you're making MDFags look like dickhead whiners right now yourself.

reminder that erikafag claimed that the artist falseflags and samefags a lot

>>77870
I'd also like to see more ties between the two. We don't need a definitive smoking gun, but there still seems to be a missing link on NSA and OFA actually being the same person. Some of the assumptions here seem to be over specific character overlap or just the two clearly having some actual artistic skill. For one example, OFA clearly has real talent in coloring. Can we actually link NSA to that specifically?

Something else that confuses me is how OFA has clearly tried to branch out with picks each tournament, which contradicts statements NSA has made about being very out-of-the-loop on vidya culture. Granted, you don't need deep knowledge to be familiar with Midna or even Bayonetta, but it's at least worth noting.

To clarify, it's very clear in hindsight that this is Onlyfans speaking. Just arguing over the NSA connection.

>>77872
I don't see the point you're making
Chel has made Elite 8 three times under three different hosts, two of them before NSA even was a thing
Chel is as naturally popular of a character you can get

>>77870
Well this has been a fucking rabbit hole.

>>77870
The more this theorizing goes on the more damning evidence crops up regarding NSA and OFA, where the fuck is Black Hand, it would be REALLY handy to find out whether or not NSA and OFA's posts in that one thread were from the same IP or not because at this point those posts being from different IPs might be the ONLY proof there is that NSA and OFA aren't connected.

>>77833
The problem with Kiryu's support is even the guy writefagging for him admitted he stopped caring halfway through. I don't know what to say If even a character's active voters get bored of them getting far.

I feel the most evident call for next year would be to push for another host or two to handle the forms this time, at least over the girls' tournaments. I already feel NSA shouldn't be overseeing all four major tournaments, but no matter what it's only fair for him not to have that much control over the voting forms.

>>77833
The thing with Kiryu is that his supporters aren't very vocal. We had >>77882 but there was also that one guy consistently putting out Kiryu OC that refused to anchor his posts, so no one saw them. Beating Isaac also caused people to be more pissed at him

>>77880
Depends, how vetted is the /aco/ tournaments?
Because the tag-team with loona was the most blatant rig in tournament history and had more "votes" then comments in each thread round

>>77877
If NSA and OFA are the same person, then it's probable that he said he isn't familiar with video game culture in an attempt to differentiate himself from his drawfag identity.

>>77883
That would probably mean NSA letting that happen. The relation between him and the other hosts is unclear.

>>77884
There was Kiryu OC?

>>77886
I think anybody can join the /aco/ tournnament, it's just google forms like any other main board tourney
At least /aco/ 2023 had open forms, the votes were consistently around 70-ish per round
Loona also had a lot of art made of her in a relatively low participation tourney, which very likely helped

>>77875
>No I think he gives a pretty clear criteria.
and that criteria is "character i like good and character i don't like bad"

>>77887
It's not out of question. If this is all true, then it paints NSA as an effortless liar, which opens another whole can of worms. Only main issue I have with that idea is that he's seemed pretty blunt saying that in the past.

>>77888
Oh wait this OFAg was a Livesey poster? Is there proof of this?

>>77895
It could also be that he isn’t even really lying. Midna and GLaDOS rank amongst the top seeded contenders for a reason.
I mean I would be amazed if NSA had never played a single videogame in his entire life.

>>77889
Do we know which of the two screens was posted first? Could have been that the second was going off the one NSA likely made. It would also be useful to actually get a further grasp of his artstyle.

>>77900
They were posted at the same time.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132954950/#132962958

>>77882
You're still thinking too meta. Consider Kiryu outside of tourney autism. He's already popular outside of it.
It should be kept in mind tourney threads are, of course, not a universal, and what you get are certain individuals that are willing to do this or that for a specific character. One guy going all out for x character just means that character has some very vocal willing supporters. It doesn't mean a character is bad because no individual from a pool of thread austists want to go in for them. We've had plenty of heavy campaigns for literal who's but that doesn't put those characters above less vocal famous picks as characters. Just that tourney threads happened to drag in someone who was a fan for x.

>>77894
I think you're just a drooling tard.

>>77871
>MDrone being a hostile bitter fuck with terrible opinion
Nothing has ever changed

>>77906
The Rock It Doesn't Matter What You Think

>>77908
huh wat u mean

>>77892
It seems like Kiryu's own supporters had it out for him this year.

>>77903
The thing is when NightFansAnon was supporting Ammy it's because she had one of the biggest campaigns in the tournament; as soon as Amaterasu supporters started expressing criticism of the Loser's Bracket naturally he wouldn't be on their side anymore since the LB was like his baby.

>>77904
Sure is interesting that there are 2 drawfag victory screens depicting an extremely controversial result regarding second place, both of which were only posted around a minute after each other.

>>77904
Well damn. I absolutely believe that NSA made these then, which explains the asterisks being accounted despite their general unpopularity. This also means it's easy to compare his style to other OC now.

I did notice now how the cave art one is largely just traced off the more traditional screen.

Again asking for that anon's confirmation about Livesey being connected to OFA because that would explain an occurrence

>>77916
Reminder NSA doesn't come here anymore and probably won't hear of any of this until next September. And if he does hear about it he'll probably just ignore it.

>>77922
>The conspiracy is pushing Chel 2nd place, plus asterisks for the furries and ONLY the furries
Ok Shirleyfag, explain how Chel made Elite 8 in two tournaments NSA wasn't involved in then

>>77916
A statement from OFA will do very little and in fact will probably make the situation worse for himself. The best way to settle this is to get Black Hand to see if the posts under NSA/OFA in that one thread were from the same person or not.
Also, this should be brought to the attention of the other hosts; there's a good chance they're in the dark about a lot of this, and being involved in the organizing process they'd be able to help share what they know and decide what to do next.

>>77922
Well this just goes back to whether NSA was being fair accusing them of rigging or not. Main takeaway other than him making the art is that he had even less support on the asterisks than previously thought, which is rich.

>>77917
NSA also doubled down on asterisk shit this year, outright handing them out to Spinel and the furries, which at the time i thought was very gay and petulant as they were never meant to be an actual official thing and just open a can of worms.

>>77913
>https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1665/37/1665379679719.jpg
>I just count polls man
Something very minor but it is very similar to the bio NSA used for the abandoned Mr. /co/ Pixiv.
>I just host man

>>77903
>>77912
I'm still in the camp that NSA made the muzzle art and led to OFA being framed, partially because that just sounds hilariously petty.

>>77921
Well I can never be his favorite since I've drawn him getting raped, kek

>>77921
>Roxy and Rouge both lost to Portal characters
>OFA's DeviantArt specifically points out they rooted for GLaDOS before they did anything for Midna

>>77928
I still believe that most of the furries were largely collateral damage. Keep in mind that Gadget was in right until Round 3 and seemed easily the most primed for rigging, and even if not I feel some people would just vote multiple furries due to overlapping tastes.

>>77931
Well the implication here is that NSA was the one who began drawing rape art of himself.