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No.64813
Ms. and Mr. /co/ Off-Season Discussion ThreadAnonymous
Image:169758159563.jpg(32kB, 382x508)gangsta spongebob.jpg
gangsta spongebob edition
No.64817
Anonymous
Replies:>>65537
Image:169758206642.png(2.40MB, 1920x1080)krab.png
Squidward will lose 2024
No.64818
Anonymous
>jokes about Skeletor cucking the characters he beats like The Monarch, Marvin, and Farquaad have been going for awhile
>when he finally wins a tournament, he gets cucked by the runner-up
Kek.
No.64820
Anonymous
>>64818
It’s like pottery, it rhymes.
No.64822
Anonymous
>>64818
Bro didn't need to sperg out when the drawfag in question wasn't even sharing the magma board drawings in the thread.
No.64823
Anonymous
Replies:>>64825
>>64818
The Monarch chiming in towards the end to talk about how much he hates Zim and Skeletor was funny. I hope that anon comes back for Tag-Team and /cov/.
No.64824
Anonymous
Image:169758340782.png(699kB, 1633x413)EE8.png
For reference. Strongest winners by overall tourney win percentage.
1. Bravo: 72.5%
2. Kronk: 64.5%
3. Jenny: 62.7%
4. Monarch: 60.0%
5. Grievous: 59.3%
6. Wuya: 58.9%
7. Skeletor: 58.8%
8. Tom: 57.88%
9. Spinel: 57.85%
10. Fang: 57.1%
11. Zorak 56.4%
12. Betty: 55.9%

And I feel like we're climaxing to an elite-elite 8 of sorts. There should totally be an all-stars ultimate tourney year 8.
No.64825
Anonymous
>>64823
He usually comes back for Tag-Team
No.64826
Anonymous
>>64824
Also /co/ winners from highest seed to lowest seed
Spinel - 1
Fang - 1
Bravo - 4
Kronk - 5
Grievous - 16
Dr. Mrs. The Monarch - 21
Skeletor - 23
Wuya - 26
Betty Boop - 30
Jenny - 37
Tom - 46
Zorak - 81

Mean winning seed: 24
No.64827
Anonymous
>>64824
Just two more years to get a character I care strongly about to win so I can make OC for an all-stars tournament.
No.64829
Anonymous
Replies:>>64845
>>64824
Dang I forgot how overwhelmingly strong Kronk was.
No.64830
Anonymous
>>64824
What would be the best format for an all-stars tourney?
>one side male, one side female, strongest male and strongest female face-off in finals
>each starting match is a male vs. female
>randomized
No.64831
Anonymous
>>64830
Leaning towards randomized.
No.64832
Anonymous
Image:169758497494.jpg(57kB, 800x332)rattle.jpg
I love how Rattlesnake Jake out of all characters has been a mainsaty since 2021. He qualifies, does his thing for a few rounds, and then fucks off. Any other characters like this who you don't see ever winning realistically but still enjoy their presence?
No.64833
Anonymous
Replies:>>64834
recap anon shat his pants and got trapped and betrayed
No.64834
Anonymous
>>64833
Recap anon FLED
No.64836
Anonymous
Recap? more like nocap fr fr
No.64837
Anonymous
Recap? More like he GOT CAPPED, he was a real one rip.
No.64838
Anonymous
I noticed in the Afterparty threads people were posting runner-up rankings and every single time without fail Johanna was put at the bottom, often right next to Captain America and Shirley who were literally rigged. Now I'm not too familiar with her or her series but what do you think are the main factors that would've made her such a bad winner in the eyes of many? I mean she was only 10 votes away from being that year's Ms. /co/, it's worth considering.
No.64840
Anonymous
>>64838
From what people have said, it's because she's the most generic MILF pick the crowd could have went with, to the point that she's not particularly attractive either due to being so bland.
No.64841
Anonymous
Replies:>>64843
>>64838
The 2021 spitevoting with Johanna and Hilda being accused of being tools of it
No.64842
Anonymous
>>64838
Most anons not being familiar with her to begin with and beholding her entire run a fluke given the circumstances that led to Ms. /co/ having such mediocre results. Also having any notable qualities outside of being a milquetoast milf.
Now I’m not familiar with Hilda, but I’m like 99% certain she wouldn’t be so despised if she had made top 8 in a different year and under other circumstances, because if one thing’s true is that Johanna had a VERY dedicated campaign.
No.64843
Anonymous
>>64841
Her and Hilda performing so terribly this year has made the claims of them being spite tools more plausible.
No.64844
Anonymous
>>64824
>That Ms. /co/ lineup
Remember when people thought Ms. /co/ would cycle through all the major 2000s cartoon waifus that the board grew up with after Jenny? And then the 2nd cartoon winner from that era is from Xiaolin Showdown of all things lol.

Mr. /co/ is unsurprisingly a much bigger nostalgia-fest.
No.64845
Anonymous
>>64829
I mean I would never vote against anyone from New Groove. It's still a great movie and the best post-Renaissance Disney movie. Hopefully Kuzco and Yzma can do well next year.
No.64846
Anonymous
>>64838
hostile boopers
No.64847
Anonymous
>>64830
Conceptually I like the idea of a round robin tournament. Everyone faces everyone else once. But it would take forever.
No.64849
Anonymous
>>64844
>Mr. /co/ is unsurprisingly a much bigger nostalgia-fest.
Not a single 2010s character has ever made top 8 in Mr. /co/'s history
No.64850
Anonymous
Image:169758938972.jpg(569kB, 921x981)gastonn.jpg
Desu.
No.64851
Anonymous
>>64850
No one DESU'S like Gaston desu!
No.64852
Anonymous
>>64849
Lord Hater might have a shot provided he gets another strong push plus a lucky bracket, but he could also easily get voted out due to being DTVA, even if his show isn't apart of the newer DTVA shows that get constantly meme'd on.
No.64853
Anonymous
>>64849
Okay, you know what, I was too harsh. There are at least a dozen franchise I think would be good in E8. Uncle Grandpa would be hilarious.
>>64852
Benson could make it.
No.64854
Anonymous
Replies:>>64855
>>64852
DTVA hate is slowly but surely wearing off, he'll make it far sooner or later.
No.64855
Anonymous
>>64852
>>64854
DTVAfags only refer to Molly, Owl and Amphibia as DTVA. They didn't care for Pacifica, Dominator, Hater, or any other characters that also have been new or old DTVA. They just care about their three strooges.
No.64857
Anonymous
>>64855
This.
No.64859
Anonymous
What would even be the least contriversial 2010 winners for a male tournament? I can think of Regular Show, Smiling Friends, and Puss in Boots 2. I know there would be some stink over Gravity Falls and Black Hat would be the most likely Villainous character to take it home which would make a lot cry Gary Stu Tumblr Sexyman.
No.64860
Anonymous
>>64855
And also always the same fucking characters of those three shows.
No.64861
Anonymous
Replies:>>64885
>>64859
Definitely Regular Show.
No.64862
Anonymous
Image:169759132178.png(103kB, 927x999)cute dolls.png
>>64850
Reminds me, I need to get to drawing them soon-ish
No.64863
Anonymous
Image:169759133329.jpg(69kB, 480x360)jay and silent bob.jpg
>>64855
Everyone from those three shows are absolute garbage, especially when compared to the actual best DTVA characters.
No.64864
Anonymous
Replies:>>64873
>>64849
The fact that Villainous and Smiling friends are the only 2020s shows putting up a fight nearly 4 years into the decade says more about the industry than the board desu. I see some people bringing up Regular Show and Adventure time, but they're not what I'd call recent at this point, and AT was a huge jobber until the Fionna spinoff game them a boost.
No.64865
Anonymous
Replies:>>64867
Remember the Bill Cipher drawfag and roleplayer? Where was he this year?
No.64866
Anonymous
Replies:>>64885
>>64859
Regular show for sure, second least controversial would be TLW.
No.64867
Anonymous
Replies:>>64869
>>64865
Bill didn’t qualify, did he?
No.64868
Anonymous
>>64855
Then why not just rename their own team as MAO? (Molly, Amph, Owl)? That would make way more sense than tying the other tv shows to it.
No.64869
Anonymous
>>64867
I think he participated in Qualifiers before and had Bill threaten to rape NightShift
No.64871
Anonymous
>>64859
Besides those mentioned I don't think there'd be too much controversy over Wander Over Yonder, it's fairly well liked on /co/ if not especially popular. If only Hater got the same amount of support that Dominator got in Ms. /co/, but I guess the competition is just tighter.
No.64872
Anonymous
>>64868
Or just drop the whole thing and vouch for their picks separately, Molly isn’t even tied to the other two outside of being from the same era.
No.64873
Anonymous
>>64864
Adventure Time is a weird case where it feels like it COULD easily make Elite Eight with the right tools, but always falls out by the third round. Do feel bad for Simon's supporters this year. Could see some of them trying to come out of their shells, but the brapposter was a major distraction. Don't feel it was actually affecting votes directly, but can absolutely see how he still took attention away from genuine support.
No.64874
Anonymous
>>64872
Same. I don't think I will vote Silver because of The Plunderers but rather because Zorak and Ruber finally got their time to shine as champion and runner-up respectively. Only Silver is alone now.
No.64875
Anonymous
Replies:>>65011
>>64874
What I mean is, I will vote Silver because I love the character and the movie, but not the Plunderers
No.64877
Anonymous
>>64873
Simon and maybe Huntress Wizard are the only two I could see making it. I don't remember the last time Jake has qualified and Princess Bubblegum, Marceline, and Finn are never making it for obvious reasons.
No.64878
Anonymous
>>64877
Jake qualified this year but lost round 1 iirc
No.64879
Anonymous
Replies:>>64885
>>64873
It's unfortunate but maybe it's for the best this wasn't his year, since he was already getting FotM accusations due to the recency of Fionna & Cake, kind of like how it's better Zim made it big this year rather than 2019 since that year his movie just released.
If it's any consolation I wasn't voting against him because of brapfag or whatever (i was barely paying attention to that) but because I was campaigning for Doof instead.
No.64880
Anonymous
Replies:>>64885
>>64877
Just checked. Jake was in this year. High seed too. I guess no one cared.
No.64881
Anonymous
Replies:>>64886
>>64859
I don't think people would make a stink about Ice King winning, despite the bizarre RP this year. The show went to shit but he himself is still fairly well liked. I'm drawing a blank on anyone else, but I know there are others, mostly from movies, like Rango, ParaNorman, HTTYD, etc.
No.64882
Anonymous
So what exactly do you believe was the reason JJJ didn’t qualify? Some people mentioned he was separate from the other marvel characters and Balls did say some of his votes were lost.
No.64883
Anonymous
>>64882
I fully believe the theory NightShift went too far throwing out votes and couldn't fix it.
No.64884
Anonymous
>>64882
>what happened to JJJ's votes
I ate them
No.64885
Anonymous
Replies:>>64892
>>64861
>>64866
It helps as well that Regular Show has several contenders under its belt. Benson and Muscle Man are looking to be the most consistently promising right now. Gut tells me Pops could maybe pull out a surprise run, but he doesn't have the numbers to back that up right now. Feel Rigby and Skips would be harder to keep any real momentum, while Mordecai is presumably impossible.

>>64877
From what I've seen Marceline is usually agreed to be the better part of Bubbline both as a character and a partner, so I could see her edging into E8 one year. Winning? Yeah, probably not. Feel Simon is easily the best bet. People love the Ice King, people usually enjoy Simon's backstory, and there's actual campaign potential. Would say Jake is actually feasible if he got off his ass, but at the same time probably another E8 at best pick. Huntress is a favorite and surprisingly competent looking at her results this year (beat out Hilda, didn't get destroyed against Raven). Still feel the stars will have to align for her to win. Looking at it, those three are probably the only ones, but they're there.

>>64880
Feel Simon and Finn stuck out way more this year, and even then they weren't top campaigns.

>>64879
Yeah, I agree with this. I was one of the people who wanted him to do better this year well before F&C's release, but it would have tainted his success for some people similar to what happened with Dale.

On a side note, Doof is overdue for a second E8 run. He's always a strong contender, but keeps falling to other titans since he's been back on the bracket. It's way too early to say and anything can happen, but would not be surprised if we see a lot more returning characters in E8 next year than usual.
No.64886
Anonymous
Replies:>>64887
>>64881
Rango is absolutely a slept on choice. Shame he always seems to just be a quiet pick.
No.64887
Anonymous
>>64886
He did have a drawfag last year, but it seems Rango fans have a preference for Rattlesnake Jake.
No.64888
Anonymous
Replies:>>64889
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>>64855
I would say they're all included too, especially GF and Star vs. It's just that there aren't any particular dedicated anon's for them around to group with (other than Jackiefag(s)). Owl House, Amphibia, and Molly all occurred around the same time, get vocal support, and get labelled alike by others so it worked out that way.
No.64889
Anonymous
Replies:>>64893
>>64888
You don't need your team to be labelled as DTVA, in fact that's the laziest and most uninspiring way of creating a team. Especially with larpers like the Annefag latching on Doof just because it sort of "benefit" them when the character isn't even from the same era and Scrooge McDuck also being there. I have a better proposition for you >>64872
No.64892
Anonymous
>>64885
>would not be surprised if we see a lot more returning characters in E8 next year than usual.
I could see this happening, but who would have the best chances? Going off what I saw this year, there's Kuzco and Doof who both got decent support this year so I could see them making E8 again. A couple anons expressed interest in making a push for Shaggy, so he could also make it again seeing as he's always been a heavy hitter. JJJ will definitely make the bracket again after what happened this year, so another E8 for him wouldn't be surprising. There's also the 2022 Elite Eight coming back next year, so one of them up there again would be likely.
No.64893
Anonymous
>>64889
You're probably taking this too seriously. If you want a real explanation there's an apparent loose strain of calartsy lore shows from Disney in the 2010's+ that got basically the same fanbases, creators, themes, styles ect. Then there's the meta that they are super popular on the board but get dunked on in the tourney's and seen as a heel by others. These groups sort of naturally come together, and there's probably more reason for an "alliance" there than something like the plunderers. But ultimately it's just fun tourney autism and a way to sort of create a distinction and talk-back amongst them. That's the way I see it at least.
No.64895
Anonymous
Replies:>>64896
>>64893
Honestly I've seen more support for the Plunderer's as a group than I have for DTVA despite them having less in common, I usually only see DTVA being mentioned as a punching bag.
No.64896
Anonymous
Replies:>>64899
>>64895
Also I'm fairly certain the DTVA thing didn't start with the actual posters but years back with others noticing stuff like the show grouping's popularity, thread presence, and relative failure. A loose history from my perspective:
>Jackiefag whores around amidst rp fest of Mr. 2020
>Amityfag latches on stalking cause autism/trolling
>goes on for a few years while people start pointing out "DTVA"
>Darcyfag and Libbyfag arrive at some point and Amity groups with them
>general "alliance" ensues that occasionally seems to pull in others
>>64895
I would say the general attitude towards the series's has probably helped solidify them as an "alliance."
No.64897
Anonymous
Replies:>>65030
>>64892
This is how I feel at a glance.

>Returning classics
Daffy
Courage
Grim

>Fair shots
Carl
Doof
Kuzco
Bugs

>50/50
JJJ
Shaggy
Eustace
Xavier
Squidward
Batman
Wallace
Iroh

>Not feeling it
Hugh
Aku
WALL-E
Max
Mr. Incredible
Marvin
Superman

>Kek
Captain America
No.64898
Anonymous
Image:169759776885.jpg(114kB, 386x605)1608787386811.jpg
>>64892
I hope comicfags have a rebound next year because this year's Mr. /co/lympus was absolutely disastrous for them
>JJJ doesn't even qualify
>capeshit E8 staples like batman and superman job in round 1 to round 2/3 losers
>lesser capeshit picks like spider-man, joker, bane, and plastic-man don't do any better
>other comic picks like garfield, calvin & hobbes, and the peanuts characters don't get a single win either
>not to mention captain america will never qualify again because of the faggot 2018 rigger host
I get that /co/ is primarily a cartoonfag board but come on some of you fags should have at least watched BTAS or the Peanuts specials
No.64899
Anonymous
Replies:>>64902
>>64893
Doesn't change the fact the name of the group is misleading because it literally groups a number of other people with them when the more vocals about it are from the recent shows, that alone should indicate a new group name. Looks more like a desperate way of attempting to get a pity win from any other old or new Dtva character that doesn't affiliate with them.
>>64896
Naming them after that was retarded from the first place. Reasons like
>>64868 explained make sense considering the shows in question and some of the posters like Jackiefag have built a negative image on them
No.64901
Anonymous
>>64898
As a SpongeBob main, I did at least enjoy the banter with Plastic Man's own supporters. That said, it's still a shame. I was really rooting for Doom in particular this year. Granted, he would have likely lost to Skeletor, but he could at least given more content and had a stronger path to an elite run next year.
No.64902
Anonymous
Replies:>>64911
>>64899
I dunno man. That's just how it worked out. I wouldn't worry about it dragging or propping anything up, cause it really hasn't. It's just kind of dicking around and I highly doubt anyone really cared about Annefag and Doof or whatever lol.
No.64903
Anonymous
Replies:>>65476
Image:169759883655.png(149kB, 834x1184)1672978193273922.png
>MAO
We are not communist. I don't think.
No.64904
Anonymous
>>64824
Bros you told me no one actually liked fang how did she average almost 60%?
No.64905
Anonymous
Replies:>>64909
I know predictions pretty much always jinx themselves but:
>this year we had a surprise campaign surge character win ms. and a classic returner winning mr.
>next year we'll have a surprise campaign surge character win mr. and a classic returner winning ms.
No.64906
Anonymous
Replies:>>64912
>murder drones get destroyed round 1 in spite of a constant general and very vocal fanbase
Will digital circus suffer the same fate next year?
No.64908
Anonymous
>>64904
>you told me no one actually liked fang
Maybe one butthurt asteriskfag.
No.64909
Anonymous
Replies:>>64913
>>64905
It's really hard to say how Mr. will go since we were coming off several surprise winners, but in Ms. I could absolutely see it. It's easily the most chaotic set of winners thus far, and with Toph and Raven both getting quite close this year the door's certainly open. Different tournaments, but I feel the opposite with King and Queen of /v/ next couple months: King has a lot going for a more classic pick, while Queen could really go either way.
No.64910
Anonymous
I don’t dislike Wuya as a winner, but looking at the lineup of winning shows Xaolin Showdown sticks out like a sore thumb. Everything else in both mr and Ms are things /co/ really enjoyed, I haven’t seen anyone talk about showdown in like a year
No.64911
Anonymous
Replies:>>64931
>>64902
Doesn't mean it can work another way though, way more fitting than just labelling DTVA. That would be like just labelling a team of recent CN characters just Cartoon Network.
No.64912
Anonymous
Replies:>>64915
>>64906
I wonder if they'll fare better next time, they seem to have won over quite a few people in spite of their detractors.
No.64913
Anonymous
>>64909
Tyr'ahnee and Chel have gotten a lot of attention in the last year, and while it could backfire on them cause spite or whatever if they get dedicated campaigns I think they could seriously win. Frankie too.
No.64914
Anonymous
>>64910
Threads blew up after her win at least
No.64915
Anonymous
>>64912
I think the newness and the unknown-ness definitely counted against them. It seemed like it was off the radar for people who weren't already into it, and seeing it qualify triggered some resistance to a potential upstart knocking out the characters people have already gotten invested in. It's kind of like how Ongezellig was last year, or was that 2 years ago? It seems to have at least a little staying power since the show had a rep requalify this year, even win a round, and I foresee at least the same for Murder Drones.
No.64916
Anonymous
>>64910
I've seen XS discusses some, and Wuya's always been sort of popular. And like i said in another thread she's right in that sweet spot of being 2000's, being from a decent nostalgic show most have seen, both character and sex appeal, general inoffensiveness. She qualified every year and finally got a good starting bracket with the right push.
If there's an "odd one out" without context it's more Spinel or Betty.
No.64917
Anonymous
I feel like Chel would be a weapon to surpass Fang if she just got a handful of actual campaigners and drawfags. She's coasted THREE times to E8 with total silence.
No.64918
Anonymous
Wuya is pretty cool but I think her pair with Skeletor adds more extra charm to it given how XS and Masters of the Universe have witches and magic shit.
No.64920
Anonymous
Replies:>>64955
>>64917
Chelfags aren’t known for putting in effort, they’re honorary FARTS
No.64921
Anonymous
>>64918
As much as I'm mixed about Fang winning I also think the same about Zorak winning and wanting to have his head eaten by her. Especially when one is the character that kickstarted adult swim and the other one from the network most recent show.
No.64922
Anonymous
>>64917
Still shocked me how she beat Tyr'ahnee last year.
No.64924
Anonymous
>>64922
I'm confident the rigging took away a lot of attention from that year. I hope we can finally get her and Daffy to win.
No.64925
Anonymous
>>64924
To me it feels like some people were satisfied with her Ms. /aco/ win but seeing how well Hank did despite winning Heroes that doesn't seem to be the case.
No.64926
Anonymous
I posted something similar in one of the Afterparty threads but here's what I think in regards to each of the 2022 E8's chances next year
>ENA
Her video game is going to be released soon enough to give her a popularity boost but not too soon to have an anti-FotM stigma attached, she'll need a really strong campaign to win but I can see her making E8 either way.
>Nani
I don't see her making the E8 again unless she gets insane bracket luck or a great campaign
>Tyr'ahnee
If I had to place my bets on which of the '22 returners has the best shot it's her, assuming she's not completely silent.
>Mrs. Brisby
No way in hell she wins but most anons consider her the most sympathetic rigged character of the Night of the Long Tails so I guess she's not completely doomed for E8.
>Nicole
Anti-rigger sentiment + MILFfags have had much less influence after 2021, round 2 fodder at best
>Shirley
lmao
>Chel
Essential silent majority-core, but >>64917 is right that she could potentially win the whole thing if she got any active supporters for once
No.64927
Anonymous
>>64924
The general Top 4 was strange that year. I could absolutely buy Fang being Brisby despite both having strong campaigns, and while the thread favorite ENA was niche enough where a silent yet popular pick like Nicole winning wasn't out of the blue. Tyr'ahnee and Nani's losses were way more surprising.
No.64929
Anonymous
>>64925
Most anons don’t care about that kinda shit. It’s only a small group of tismos (us) that care at all. Anyone who goes “we can’t have X win because Y won Z tourney!” is concern trolling and trying to get people like us to go against that character.
No.64930
Anonymous
Replies:>>64944
>>64929
This, /tnt/ and side tourney wins aren't the same as major tournament wins and never have been, anyone who brings that up seriously is trolling or spiting.
No.64931
Anonymous
Replies:>>64933
>>64911
May as well ask FARTS to stop or be changed. The meme is too far gone.
No.64932
Anonymous
Replies:>>64937
>>64926
I did it for the guys, so what about the gals?

>Pretty likely
Tyr'ahnee
Chel

>Certainly see it
Kim
Starfire
Dominator
Frankie
Shego
Bellum

>50/50
Brisby
ENA
Muriel
Azula

>Not feeling it
Nani
Velma
Elastigirl
Pauling
Hilda
Jucika

>Nope
Peridot
Johanna
Pearl
Black Canary
Shirley

Pretty hilarious how there's way more bottom picks here than with Mr. /co/. Anyways, with 2022 specifically I'd go as far as to say that Mrs. Brisby and ENA are the two biggest wildcards of the bunch. Both still clearly have a lot of love behind them, but also have pretty clear catches. I can see them ending up just about anywhere in the tournament.
No.64933
Anonymous
Replies:>>64934
>>64931
Both changed is better. Also wasn't the Once-ler the one who came up with FARTS though? If that's true even the guy who was a major factor on that is basically retired.
No.64934
Anonymous
Replies:>>64935
>>64933
>Also wasn't the Once-ler the one who came up with FARTS though?
No lol. I remember he made FATS posting, as a joke on FARTS.
No.64935
Anonymous
Replies:>>64949
>>64934
When even the guy who is a former fatposter is against FARTS you know your teamname has hit low.
No.64936
Anonymous
Replies:>>64940
>>64925
I do wonder how much Dale's own performance affected Hank. On one hand, both Jack and Skeletor were tearing through the bracket this time. On the other hand, the rest of the quarter-final winners seemed to line up a lot with general thread opinion and momentum. Even when it came to 5th-8th Hank was the top pick by a wide margin. Livesey was his weakest win to date, but if anything you'd think that might help his momentum afterwards. Felt the "Dale vs. Hank" point was more a minority fearing that outcome, but do wonder if a decent chunk of people were outright voting against it directly.
No.64937
Anonymous
Replies:>>64939
>>64926
>>64932
Ms. is way more volatile and unpredictable. Maaaaybe this has been msotly because of riggerniggers though and they're gone. Who knows. But I'm not confidently laying down any prediction with it.
No.64938
Anonymous
Replies:>>64982
What happened to the King and Jim Ross poster? He just vanished.
No.64939
Anonymous
Replies:>>64945
>>64937
Yeah, that's more than fair. I don't feel as confident in these as I did with Mr., and while I tried to take one side or another you could easily add way more into 50/50. Despite me keeping Chel toward the top since it's Chel, the only one that I'd be actually surprised not to return again barring a wild bracket would be Tyr'ahnee.
No.64940
Anonymous
>>64936
I think on some conscious or not level two characters of the same show in the quarterfinal vote just discourages voting for those characters. It's the risk of finals face-off, "too much" representation or whatever.
No.64942
Anonymous
>>64940
This might hold some credit, since the Spies also had their progress halted after reaching the E8.
No.64944
Anonymous
>>64929
>>64930
While I don't agree with the sentiment fully, I don't think it's trolling. I understand some people think different characters should win every tournament and that it can still be brutal to win a /tnt/ tournament.
No.64945
Anonymous
>>64939
I'm not even confident about Chel. I'd put her wildcard now cause the whole 2022 situation brought a lot of attention to her when previously there was almost none. It can go several ways. Like she can get a boost to spite the whole circumstances of 2022 or because she's finally gotten noticed, get ragged on early for being the prime silent pick or because she's a visible threat now, get falseflagged, ect.
Kind of the same with Tyr'ahnee really.
No.64946
Anonymous
>>64844
Venture Bros. debuted in 2003
No.64947
Anonymous
Replies:>>64950
>>64922
I think they're each the closest thing to a rival the other has. Not that they're the only strong contenders, but they have history with each other and tend to be brought up in the same breath. I've been holding out for Tyr'ahnee for half a decade now, and now that Fang's out, Chel is probably the girl I'm watching closest.
No.64948
Anonymous
>>64940
Not wrong, but at the same time we do have examples to the contrary: Jack in 3rd during Mr. /co/ 2018, Aku in 3rd during 2021, Hilda AND Johanna advancing in Ms. /co/ 2021. The voting demographic is certainly different, but if we're talking general tournament mentality /v/ also has its examples: we got Reimu winning with Cirno, Dante winning with Vergil, and of course both Raiden and Jetstream Sam in E8. All this happened in the same year.
No.64949
Anonymous
Replies:>>64956
>>64935
FARTS isn't a team name. It's a deliberate spite campaign. No one who is a fan of those characters got together and said "we're gonna make an alliance named after flatulence." It was created in malice and persists in malice.
No.64950
Anonymous
>>64947
Speaking of Duck Dodgers, is Porky a no shot candidate? He obviously has to qualify for one, but if he DID could be run a surprisingly decent campaign? The others of the main four in the show have made E8 at least once, with Daffy and Tyr'ahnee in particular being consistent powerhouses.
No.64951
Anonymous
Image:169760357359.gif(1.72MB, 436x480)ce8.gif
>>64844
I think Spinel screwed up a lot of stuff. One of these 2000's nostalgia girls was going to win 2019, but instead Spinel flew in two weeks old and riggerfucked everyone. As a result a weird standard was set, FARTS became a thing and by extension the nature of much of the meta fuckery in /co/ tourney's. The whole landscape of things changed with Spinel much more dramatically than any other winner.
No.64953
Anonymous
Replies:>>64954
>>64904
Fang's haters are louder than her supporters and NSA stupidly gave the former a lot of ammo last year.
No.64954
Anonymous
>>64953
He gave them a lot of ammo this year with his inflammatory form questions showing he wasn't backing down from it too.
No.64955
Anonymous
>>64920
how quickly we forget CKS
Chel, Kim, and Starfire
No.64956
Anonymous
>>64949
Hopefully it'll go away if one of the FARTS members actually wins.
No.64957
Anonymous
>>64951
Truly there is no winner worse than SHITnel.
No.64958
Anonymous
Replies:>>64960
>>64951
Raven really does feel like she could have been a near perfect second winner for Ms. /co/ if you think about it. Represents both cartoons AND comics, breakout character from her show, really solid design, obvious sex appeal, and even would have been a nice follow-up to Starfire's finals appearance the preceding year. That's not even to mention how her mere absence would have had a butterfly effect on future tournaments.

I'm happy with the Wuya vs. Eris finals we got, but at the same time I feel it would have been a good year to retire Raven or Toph. Then again, at least we have two more strong candidates to be the tournament's historic eighth winner.
No.64959
Anonymous
>>64956
That's more like allowing them to get what they want, anti-campaign or not
No.64960
Anonymous
Replies:>>64962
>>64958
It always seemed evident the organic finale was meant to be Frankie vs. Raven. Recent events (Raven outlasting Frankie and regaining E8, beating her directly in ms. /aco/) incline me to think Raven likely would've won.
No.64961
Anonymous
>>64956
I feel Toph and Raven's bans next year should help at least.

Which of the remaining three is the weakest at this point actually? I'm leaning on Azula.
No.64962
Anonymous
>>64960
This year's Ms. /aco/?
No.64963
Anonymous
>>64961
None of them are particularly strong imo unless they get massive campaigns. Frankie > Azula = Shego.
No.64964
Anonymous
>>64962
Yes. By a decent margin.
No.64965
Anonymous
>>64961
With more people realizing villains/villain-aligned characters make up a good chunk of the winners I can see Azula's and Shego's campaigns tanking.
No.64966
Anonymous
Replies:>>64968
Image:169760473686.jpg(192kB, 719x525)Jenny think.jpg
>>64964
Interesting, because Raven herself ended up losing by a narrow margin to Tiff, a girl who herself lost to another FARTS member in the form of Toph.
No.64967
Anonymous
>>64961
Azula is definitely the weakest. I notice she doesn't get as far as the others and loses to girls who, while strong, would probably be eaten alive by Toph or Raven. Frankie tends to coast until things get serious and Shego is probably just below her.
No.64968
Anonymous
>>64966
girl who herself lost to another FARTS member in Ms /co/*
No.64969
Anonymous
>>64965
>With more people realizing villains/villain-aligned characters make up a good chunk of the winners
It's like half and half for both tournaments. It's mostly the streak people are focusing on, and across both tournaments rather than just Ms where Wuya was preceded immediately by Fang. Ms may even have fewer villains based on where you place Spinel on alignment. Neither tournament happens in a vacuum, though, and the events of one can affect the other. I just hope it's not the case.
No.64970
Anonymous
Mind people thought Toph was the weakest and should be replace by Tyr until suddenly she was the strongest.
No.64971
Anonymous
Replies:>>64973
>>64962
>>64964
I've never participated in Ms. /aco/. What's the general ratio between campaigning vs. sexual attraction?
No.64972
Anonymous
Replies:>>64974
>>64970
If we threw in Chel and Tyr'ahnee, we can just call it FACTS.
No.64973
Anonymous
>>64971
Campaigning consists of posting smut or attractive pics of your girl, which is why I'm not very fond of it, I appreciate the more chill mood than the main tournaments but there's not a whole lot to do, you just horny post a few times and then wait.
No.64974
Anonymous
>>64972
That sounds much better
No.64975
Anonymous
>>64970
It helps that Toph had competitors with some bite to them going up against her in her bracket.
No.64976
Anonymous
>>64965
I wonder what this will mean for Mr. /co/. Even if you don't count Kronk and Tom, that's Grievious, Zorak, and Skeletor all in a row. Plus Skeletor is basically THE goofy cartoon villain, and it feels perfect to take a break from there.
>>64898
Scrooge would be a good pick. He's been on the brink of Elite Eight twice in a row now, and honestly he should've beaten Dale this year.
No.64977
Anonymous
>>64976
>honestly he should've beaten Dale this year
Dale technically did more overall than Scrooge thanks to the Boomhauer match.
No.64978
Anonymous
Replies:>>64980
>>64976
Also forgot to mention Popeye who's had a streak of losing to eventual Elite Eight placers, and also only losing to Dr. Livesey by 3 votes.
No.64980
Anonymous
>>64976
>>64978
They remind me of Squidward prior to last year. You THINK he would be a jobber, but no. Look back, and he's a genuinely threatening competitor.
No.64982
Anonymous
>>64938
>What happened to the King and Jim Ross poster? He just vanished.
I was there in every thread anon, fighting GOD
IT'S ME AUSTIN!youtube thumb
No.64986
Anonymous
>>64898
Big comic characters like Batman, Supes, and Spidey are literally too popular and just get spited for being boring or normie picks. It'd take a huge campaign effort and to overcome those sentiments. I also think you guys need capitalize more on recent material to make the characters and campaigns feel 'fresh'. Like you guys should've capitalized more on Batkek stuff for Bruce's campaign back in the day or something. You don't need to devolve into silly RP shenanigans, but just make them seem more exciting.

>non Marvel/DC comics characters
Garfield or Arbuckle should be doing a lot better than they have, but there's just no campaigning for them. They could be actual heavyweights if anyone tried. Scrooge is also a good pick. Omni-Man should be doing better but he's somehow featured more in the Ms. /co/ contest.
No.64987
Anonymous
>>64986
The problem with Omni-Man is that that after he jobbed in 2021 and 2022, his character ended up completely devolving into OOC RP nonsense in Ms. /co/ 2023 from what I saw. If he got serious campaigning and OC, he could do better. Same thing with Homelander who just hasn't qualified at all.
No.64988
Anonymous
Replies:>>64991
Image:169761276073.jpg(10kB, 200x160)Newskeletor.jpg
>>64918
Something I think people forgot to bring up about Wuya and Skeletor is how both got terrible redesigns at some point of their new series
No.64989
Anonymous
Image:169761319771.png(430kB, 840x473)sadbatman.png
>>64898
Shit... and finished.
No.64991
Anonymous
Replies:>>64992
Image:169761400393.png(2.60MB, 1451x1005)Skelethick.png
>>64988
With a goofy live-action adaptation in the 80s and some certainly brash choices in the franchise as of late, it's wild how this remains his worst design.
No.64992
Anonymous
>>64991
Reading over again, probably should have said "that", not "this". Used the other design as a point of comparison.
No.64993
Anonymous
Replies:>>64995
>>64987
I fell if Invincible OR The Boys had gone more under the radar, the duo could have hit a sweet spot in Mr. /co/. Instead, they're probably the main reasons their shows hit mainstream. Obviously their comics date back well before the past few years, but don't really have to elaborate why that's not really going to be much a factor here. Guess the real question is HOW you'd approach a successful campaign for either one.
No.64994
Anonymous
>>64987
At least the RP was funny even if it did absolutely nothing to help his chances in Mr.
No.64995
Anonymous
>>64993
Homelander has a great personality for campaigning and writefagging and I’m surprised no one’s tried. Mr. /co/ is the exact kind of thing he’d want to win to boost his ego or throw a temper tantrum if he lost.
No.64999
Anonymous
>>64976
I wonder if the streak of mostly action game characters as Ko/v/ will also continue.
No.65000
Anonymous
Replies:>>65002
Image:169762000562.jpg(21kB, 236x336)gesture-drawing-drawing-art.jpg
Of all things that happened I hope the Judyanon is still around here and that one schizo stalker didn't demotivate him.
No.65001
Anonymous
>>64986
It's kinda sad that contrarianism can overpower a decent campaign.
No.65002
Anonymous
Replies:>>65003
>>65000
He should still be on /tnt/ at least, the vast majority of the faggotry in the main tournaments doesn't come across to here.
No.65003
Anonymous
Image:169762070893.png(232kB, 485x661)fcbo1.png
>>65002
I want to believe you're right, anon. Crazy to think someone like the Anti-Judyfag would go on such lengths to stalk the poster for something so vague and uncertain. I could understand if it was his dislike towards the character but he made it clear more than one time he was unhealthy obsessed with Judyanon to the point he dropped the whole accusation thing and revealed it was just personal hate towards the user. I even saved the drawing he made that NSA rejected as proof he did a good job regarding his skills.
No.65004
Anonymous
I don't know or care about this thread personality but I will say I never want to see a thread shit up with metafaggotry and schizo discussion as bad as that one Mr. /co/ 23 Finals thread, that was abhorrent and everyone who partook in it instead of actually discussing the tournament should feel a measure of shame
No.65005
Anonymous
Replies:>>65006
>>65004
You mean that afterparty thread? Unless something happened during the night I remember the final threads went smoothly.
No.65006
Anonymous
Replies:>>65007
>>65005
This one
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140018888
No.65007
Anonymous
>>65006
Ohhh that one, I must've tuned it all out after I started DBSposting once the thread got derailed with schizo shit and metafagging.
No.65008
Anonymous
Image:169762774850.png(213kB, 702x659)16743838438914.png
>>65004
What was up with all the /v/ metafagging anyway? I know we had many /v/ anons participate in these for the first time but they are never as open about tournament meta discussion in their own threads.
No.65011
Anonymous
Replies:>>65016
Image:169763724853.jpg(48kB, 546x546)roman-chernobrivets-roman-chernobrivets-thumbnail.jpg
>>64874
>>64875
It is kinda fucked up to even put Silver in the Plunderers team anymore. Like, Plunderers was solely made out of Silver, Ruber, Zorak and [REDACTED]. It wasn't some grand alliance like the schizo's, merchants, daddies, etc. or full of powerhouses like the FARTS. Zorak Won, Ruber couldn't qualify and what's basically left is Silver with his own campaign that isn't tied to any other grand campaign.
Like I remember people (anti-campaigners) called Livesey a fucking Plunderer.
No.65012
Anonymous
Replies:>>65014
Image:169763765900.jpg(15kB, 323x408)1697589646124572.jpg
>>64987
>Hyped to be a solid Elite Eight contender
>Losses at round 1 three years in a row
No.65014
Anonymous
>>65012
I predicted he would be fodder from the beginning kek
No.65015
Anonymous
>>64898
hey at least you got two technical comic characters in the E8 with Optimus and Skeletor since their comics were the first fiction they appeared in
No.65016
Anonymous
>>65011
Poor Ruber, plunderer or not I was looking forward to his campaign this year.
No.65017
Anonymous
>>65016
How many voted did he get in qualifiers?
No.65018
Anonymous
>>65016
His chances would've been better if he wasn't the only character from his movie nominated. It makes it harder to find him at a glance unless you're specifically looking for him. The lower-than-usual qualifier votes didn't help either.
No.65021
Anonymous
Replies:>>68065
>>65008
I sure do hope /v/ anons don't throw another temper tantrum at the slightless mention of the /co/ tourneys during their own tournaments
No.65022
Anonymous
Image:169764392982.png(58kB, 961x956)1697489469136.png
>>64818
Kek
No.65027
Anonymous
>>64965
Well, I think now we can say Azula is SHIT and FINISHED but for a different reason.
No.65028
Anonymous
>>64882
Spider-Man stole all the missing votes in qualifiers, hence the low turnout. The hosts were working with him and allowed it to happen.
No.65029
Anonymous
Azula was always the weakest of FARTS statistically. FARTS was just a thing to group the strongest returning 2021 girls and Azula was the 5th best one (5th place in 2019).
No.65030
Anonymous
Replies:>>65031
>>64897
I might bump Mr. Incredible up a bit since he made some waves this year with his silent campaign, although that also could've been a bit of a fluke since I don't think he even qualified last year.
No.65031
Anonymous
Replies:>>65032
>>65030
Even then his silent campaign only happened because some anon (probably not IC) harbored a serious grudge against him making E8 in 2020, though the weird cuck shit (that was probably IC) didn’t help at all.
No.65032
Anonymous
>>65031
The fact that Mr Incredible of all picks got a campaign after all the bitching about him being silent is never gonna stop being funny.
No.65033
Anonymous
>>65016
Lbr Ruber's never going to do well unless something puts Quest for Camelot back in the spotlight. Maybe if Gary Oldman dies he can at least coast a little bit on that.
No.65047
Anonymous
Image:169766090519.jpg(13kB, 320x180)E2156C3E-3595-4B64-B8D7-2B4147D24E67.jpeg
why did this tournament have more notable femanons then usual? because of them he had no gay rape this year
No.65051
Anonymous
Image:169766220293.jpg(141kB, 1280x973)1658247787781.jpg
2 weeks before queen /v/
No.65054
Anonymous
>>65047
I feel like femanons would be into gay rape. A lot of them have been here the whole time, even during peak gay rape.
No.65058
Anonymous
''''femanons''''
No.65060
Anonymous
>>65058
Cope.
No.65062
Anonymous
Replies:>>65069
>>65058
Yes femanons, they exist.
No.65063
Anonymous
Replies:>>65064
The current stelth /v/ thread is kind of terrible.
No.65064
Anonymous
>>65063
This is way better than the /co/ ones were. Trust me.
No.65069
Anonymous
Replies:>>65070
>>65062
doubt
No.65070
Anonymous
Replies:>>65081
>>65069
The Wuya song wouldn’t exist without a femanon.
No.65081
Anonymous
>>65070
>implying anon didn't get his sister or gf to sing that for him
No.65082
Anonymous
Image:169767235377.gif(1.40MB, 468x498)coping.gif
>he is so deep in his own preconceived ideas he would rather believe all that art of moe Benson and posts desperately thirsting after Black Hat or wanting to fuck Dr. Livesey ACKSHUALLY were made by men putting on an act
No.65092
Anonymous
Image:169767539946.gif(1.08MB, 498x373)invader-zim-lies.gif
>>65082
/co/ is the gayest board on 4chan outside of /lgbt/ and /fit/ obviously we're going to have some resident faggots
Also have you seen any timestamped pictures of woman's breasts posted in the threads? Because I sure haven't
No.65096
Anonymous
>he fell for the femanon's are real meme
No.65102
Anonymous
Replies:>>65104
Image:169767805073.jpg(85kB, 1280x720)robotnik.jpg
>>65082
The real question is why weren't they swooning over the actual sexiest character in the tournament
No.65104
Anonymous
>>65102
Yeah, I don't get why they weren't swooning over Gaston, desu
No.65106
Anonymous
>>65104
Desu, I think they didn't want to stesl him from the desu girl.
No.65107
Anonymous
I wonder of the SpongeBob poster is also here. Now that he's doing SpongeBob on his own I can quit SpongeBob lusting after the Monarch.
No.65111
Anonymous
Replies:>>65113
This is said without malice but I feel like we potentially dodged a bullet with this Digital Circus thing
No.65113
Anonymous
>>65111
Why? People were concerned about Murder Drones fans and they turned out to be chill.
No.65114
Anonymous
>>65113
SOME Murder Drones fans are chill, particularly those I have seen post here.
No.65115
Anonymous
Replies:>>65118
>>65113
I don't know anything about this Digital Circus thing but it looks like a web animation, so if it's anything like Murder Drones it'd probably just be a bunch of drawfags coming in to campaign for a character who qualifies, loses in round 1, and then gets awarded Ms./Mr. Literally Who
No.65116
Anonymous
Replies:>>65158
>>65104
because Gaston is made for Jason
No.65118
Anonymous
>>65115
>then gets awarded Ms./Mr. Literally Who
Digital Circus has had a far bigger launch, so I'm not entirely sure this would happen.
No.65125
Anonymous
>>65107
Ngl but it was quite obnoxious how he acted sometimes
No.65126
Anonymous
Replies:>>65132
>>65107
>I can quit SpongeBob lusting after the Monarch.
Was that meant to be a pro Spongebob campaign?
No.65128
Anonymous
Replies:>>65130
>>65107
If you’re referring to the other Spongebob RPer who was around early on at the same time as you then yeah, apologies for the dupe gimmick kek, I figured it’d be funny and a way to capture that rare side of his personality where he can get pissed off if he was anxious about other Spongebobs but it didn’t really work out.
No.65130
Anonymous
>>65128
Eh it's fine. You actually did a far better job than I could have imagined. I just kept the "SpongeBob lusting after the Monarch" meme going on because he also normally engaged with the funposting. It's something I did for last year and also for this one until I stopped. Since Chris has been tarnished, I've found funny the idea of someone annoying the Monarch as replacement and that resulted on me basing the idea from a post from 2021? Where SpongeBob was lusting after him while Mr. Krabs dragged him away. However, I am not sure who will serve as the annoying character for him now that I'm not pushing for it. Maybe Bugs Bunny but his posters barely show up to interact with the Monarch.
No.65131
Anonymous
>>65104
Gaston is for Suiseiseki
No.65132
Anonymous
Image:169771333417.jpg(534kB, 1242x678)8D24AB84-FA47-4E41-9E91-72CC17AFD139.jpeg
>>65126
it's a campaign that's enough
No.65133
Anonymous
Replies:>>65136
Now what do we talk about?
No.65135
Anonymous
Replies:>>65138
fuck guys I think I know why the votes are so low in the qualifiers
>Skibidi Toilet was allowed in
>Balls said it wasn't a big deal as he expected the toilet to not qualify
what if Skibidi Toilet did get enough votes to qualify and Nightshift decided instead of just letting it in instead he removed most of the votes for it and Squibidi Toilet so they wouldn't get in
No.65136
Anonymous
>>65133
We'll talk about who will be our picks for next year.
No.65137
Anonymous
>>65058
all of the hosts are femanons btw
No.65138
Ballsanon !th0DR5qBxs
>>65135
no it wasn't getting in full stop, we just missed it when checking for non-characters, didn't matter if it got top seed or enough for bottom lol
No.65139
Anonymous
>>65137
Feminine PenisAnon...
No.65140
Anonymous
>>65137
FemSA
No.65146
Anonymous
Image:169772313044.png(381kB, 814x769)1444965836087.png
>>65136
If I decided to main someone for next year that would probably be Max. Despite being a highlight of Mr. /co/ 2022 I feel his campaign went a little too OOC near the end, too much focus on run-of-the-mill hornyposting rather than showing other anons why his character is so funny and endearing in the first place. Probably explains why Sam doesn't have as much of a push behind him despite being just as good of a character.
No.65148
Anonymous
>>65136
I'm mainly gonna writefag for Kuzco and JJJ next year. Kuzco did better than I expected this year, so with a stronger push, I could see him reaching Elite Eight again, even with him having winning series spite. I wanted to writefag for JJJ this year, but obviously that didn't happen, so I'll start doing stuff for him in qualifiers and hopefully he'll get in this time.
No.65150
Anonymous
>>64818
Orko's magic.
No.65151
Anonymous
>>65136
Master Shake again. I might have a job by then, but I'll still stop by with bumpers and art whenever I can. I started making OC for him, so I want to stick by until he finally wins.
No.65152
Anonymous
Image:169772566060.jpg(171kB, 988x1200)FiTsRIqUYAAkIlu.jpg
>Be me
>Feeling really sad
>Semifinals begin
>For some reason the results have this picture for a few minutes before switching to the polls
>Laugh my ass off to the point where it's hard to breathe and my stomach feels genuine pain
>Don't feel sad anymore
Whoever put that on, thank you :)
No.65154
Anonymous
Image:169773383776.jpg(63kB, 853x480)x480.jpg
>>65136
xavier will grope victory like the TSA cop a feeling me up when he pats me down (ooh, nice!)
No.65158
Anonymous
Replies:>>65159
>>65116
Jason jobbed hard though
how the fuck do you lose a quint
No.65159
Anonymous
Image:169774609509.gif(746kB, 500x281)FLEEjita.gif
>>65158
He ruined his almighty quints by FLEEING.
No.65160
Anonymous
>>65152
Source? Also what makes you sad?
No.65163
Anonymous
Replies:>>65169
Are the Murder Games happening today?
No.65169
Anonymous
Image:169775037294.jpg(6kB, 262x192)zsg.jpg
>>65163
*blink* Today 9pm est.
No.65172
Ballsanon !th0DR5qBxs
>>65152
no problem lol, I saw you said it made you laugh in the thread
No.65185
Anonymous
>>65136
SpongeBob is out for the year, so I’m leaning on pushing for a classic this time. Primarily between Scrooge, Popeye, and Daffy.
No.65191
Anonymous
Image:169776030525.jpg(25kB, 480x360)11s1e.jpg
*blink* Hop in
>>65190
No.65282
Anonymous
Replies:>>65304
I fucking hate Mr. Incredible.
No.65288
Anonymous
Replies:>>65304
I fucking LOVE Mr. Incredible.
No.65302
Anonymous
Replies:>>65304
I'm indifferent towards Mr. Incredible.
No.65304
Anonymous
Image:169780112213.png(1,016kB, 1600x1200)Mr. Incredible face Front.png
>>65282
>>65288
>>65302
...
No.65308
Anonymous
I’ll go through the threads for any missing OC left to be uploaded to the booru latter today. Is there anything you think is screencap-worthy for me to archive, like Farquaad's speeches?
No.65309
Anonymous
Replies:>>65315
>>65308
Gastonposting was pretty top tier this year, you can probably find something good from that
Somewhat related, should we move OC from the old boorus onto the new boorus? That was if someone goes through say the Zim tag, they'll see OC from every year instead of having to switch between boorus to see non-2023 OC.
No.65313
Anonymous
>>65308
Some of the iconic Optimus GETs might be worthwhile
No.65315
Anonymous
Replies:>>65318
Image:169781303788.gif(47kB, 256x192)ema-confident.gif
>>65047
>because of them we had no gay rape this year
Oh yeah that's right, my prediction of no gay rape for this year turned out correct after all!

>>65309
I'm not completely againts moving all the stuff from previous years to the new boorus, but it would be too much work for something that is already archived and tagged, just on a different website. Between Ms. /co/ and Mr. /co/ 2018-2022 there's at least two thousands of images.
No.65317
Anonymous
>>65308
I was hoping someone would get Farquaad's speeches. Try getting the song parodies people were making and maybe some of the best desuposting.
No.65318
Anonymous
Replies:>>65320
>>65315
Good for you, Ema. Now it's time for you to go back to being neglected by Capcom.
No.65320
Anonymous
Image:169781658933.gif(43kB, 256x192)ema-serious(a).gif
>>65318
Hey at least I'm not Gumshoe.
No.65322
Anonymous
Ok but how come nobody ever pointed out the thematic weight of Puss (spic cat) losing to Kuzco (inca emperor)
No.65323
Anonymous
Image:169782313784.png(25kB, 850x700)1662954108416752.png
I'VE GOT A BLACK MAGIC WOMAN
No.65325
Anonymous
Image:169782544650.jpg(32kB, 244x295)1574876365187.jpg
>>65322
Kek, that's fucking great
No.65326
Anonymous
Image:169782556643.png(242kB, 238x410)he can't.png
>>64898
the comicfag demographic is eating itself alive. eurofags don't read capeshit, capefags don't read euroshit, Marvel and DC are at odds, and lol webcomics. everyone wants one of their guys to be the first comic winner but they can't get enough people to rally behind them.
No.65327
Anonymous
>>65326
let euros make capeshit webcomics
No.65328
Anonymous
>>65326
Blobby will be our comic winner.
No.65330
Anonymous
>>65326
If capeshit can't win, then I'd say Scrooge is a fitting winner.
No.65331
Anonymous
>>65326
Heathcliff is the great comic hope.
No.65333
Anonymous
Replies:>>65336
>>65322
2023: Peru's Revenge
No.65334
Anonymous
>>65322
Conquistador bros…
No.65335
Anonymous
Replies:>>65340
Image:169783564522.jpg(261kB, 1500x844)toph_beifong_gn1.jpg
Interesting thing pointed out before - had Toph won she would have been /co/'s mirror to Midna.
>first appeared in 2006 in widely recognized millennial classic media
>cocky shorty girl
>taller form that's never talked about or campaigned for in comparison to their much more famous short form
>year one 3rd place
>proceeds to have strong tourney presence and speculated on a lot
>gets dunked on in her return year and made fun of
>"comeback kid" surge years later
No.65336
Anonymous
>>65333
I thought 2019 was Peru’s Revenge.
No.65337
Anonymous
>>65322
I have to wonder how much Heroes/Villains have influenced Mr. /co/lympus. Obviously not by much (or at all) but it’s interesting to see Kuzco win his rematch against Puss and the fact that Optimus Prime and Farquaad made a mainstream E8 not long after their respective tournaments.
No.65339
Anonymous
>>65337
As one of the few faggots who voted in both things I can tell you my choices in one have no bearing on how I vote in the other.
No.65340
Anonymous
Replies:>>65341
>>65335
Wuya was kinda that when it comes to resembling the character though
No.65341
Anonymous
Replies:>>65354
>>65340
eh not really. Her taller form is more famous and her tourney history is much different.
No.65354
Anonymous
>>65341
Still in a sort of way it's comparable and funny it's the opposite side with Wuya with her human form
No.65360
Anonymous
Replies:>>65478
Image:169785028324.png(14kB, 92x97)dabcliff.png
>>65331
Heathcliff will save us.
No.65363
Anonymous
>>65326
>eurofags main picks are donald and scrooge, who are seen by burgers as cartoon picks not comic picks
Unfortunate but at least if either wins it'd be a perfect union of Comics and Cartoons, a true /co/ winner if you will
No.65365
Anonymous
>>65337
Maybe a bit, but Kuzco, Prime, and Farquaad had dedicated supporters this year which definitely gave them a boost, plus Prime and Farquaad got lucky enough matches to get them to Elite Eight, so it could be coincidental.
No.65379
Anonymous
God is this circus shit going to be the MD/Spinel of 2024
Thank fuck it debuted now and not a month ago
No.65380
Anonymous
Image:169786161111.png(48kB, 512x512)621hq.png
>>65379
>MD/Spinel
No.65381
Anonymous
>>65379
Murder Drones was chill in the tournaments.
No.65384
Anonymous
>>65379
Everyone will have forgotten about the pilot by the time of Ms. /co/ 2024
No.65386
Anonymous
>>65379
>Trying this hard to slander MD
No.65387
Anonymous
Image:169787925801.jpg(125kB, 500x400)3.jpg
Stupid shit I did to celebrate Skeletor in Gmod (Also, it's the only way I could get Farquaad in):
https://files.catbox.moe/lc3aaa.mp4
No.65388
Anonymous
No.65389
Anonymous
>>65387
based
No.65390
Anonymous
>>65387
Kek nice
No.65391
Anonymous
Is the general consensus still that Mr. /co/lympus is the side-dish to Ms. /co/? After the last two years I think it's time to recognize both carry the same amount of hype, only Mr. /co/ tends to be the more respectful tourney and with less metafagging drama.
No.65392
Anonymous
Replies:>>65393
>>65391
I wouldn't say side-dish but I would definitely say palette-cleanser, a dessert maybe. It might not be as filling as the main course (ms. /co/ tends to have more OC) but it sure tastes a lot better.
No.65393
Anonymous
>>65392
>ms. /co/ tends to have more OC
This has more to do with Mr. /co/ being heavier on roleplay.
No.65395
Anonymous
>>65391
It’s been that way since 2019.
No.65397
Anonymous
>>65391
I see Ms. /co/ as a test/disaster drill tournament while Mr. /co/lympus is the real intended big event. Ms. /co/ has been an utter joke the past two years though I also think NSA screwed with Mr. /co/lympus' votes this year with how baffling the qualifier votes were.
No.65398
Anonymous
>>65397
>the past two years
Ms. /co/ has been a joke since 2019.
No.65399
Anonymous
>>65398
2020 was a decent tourney though.
No.65400
Anonymous
>>65397
This year could’ve been alright if NSA didn’t screw the pooch again.
No.65401
Anonymous
>>65398
I get the feeling a lot of anon's first tourney year was two years ago.
No.65405
Anonymous
>>65398
I said past two years because while I agree 2021 was a joke, it still felt legit. 2020 was fine.
No.65406
Anonymous
2021 felt rigged tbqhwydesu
No.65414
Anonymous
>>65406
I kind of feel this way too in hindsight. /v/ tourney's too seeing that year had such "oddball" winners with a lot of thread focus. We'll see if that's ever repeated.
No.65415
Anonymous
>>65406
>>65414
People jump the gun on shit being rigged too much. Just cause standard "popular" picks lose out in something where hyping the crowd is important doesn't mean it's rigged.
No.65416
Anonymous
>>65414
>>65415
I wrote that post only thinking of Ms. /co/ because let’s be honest, that entire tourney is a head scratcher beyond things like the finale or Johanna beating Hilda. People have always said the tourney ended up like that due to excessive metagaming/spitevoting but really, how many anons do you think were voting with that specific mindset? Always seemed like a pretty flimsy explanation to me.
No.65417
Anonymous
Replies:>>65431
>>65415
Those are the strangest cases to date I've yet to see replicated.
No.65423
Anonymous
>>65416
It's still fucked how this year had a huge mood kill around the sudden email requirement, and yet it still wasn't as rough as the previous two years outside voter count.
No.65431
Anonymous
>>65417
Batter had hype before the tournament started, even if nobody saw him realistically getting THAT far. OFF is among the most well-known RPG Maker titles, let alone ones with major male protagonists. (Brad is the main contention, but feel he's harder to quick sell that Batter. OMORI is a non-contender for /v/.) His goal of purification is genuinely interesting as a selling point, his design is simple yet memorable, he's not treated as a mere player surrogate, and all-in-all he's quite unique as a protagonist. His win was due to one of the best campaigns to date (if not THE best), but had he fell in Elite Eight or even as a runner-up feel there would be way less to question. Many of his victories were also pretty definitive, so I'd be shocked if he was rigged.

Recette I think was just sheer luck, although I can at least see some argument she got some kind of boost at least in a couple key rounds. Still, people were at least bringing her up a ton in the threads by the time she started getting a streak going, beyond just that one infamous anon. Her victories also generally seemed not that unbelievable in terms of voter margins. If you go through her bracket, you can actually see that it was incredibly favorable for her. Just look at the Elite Eight: she took down the silent pick that many were turning against with the guns gone, and then Touhou's deuteragonist in the year right after Reimu's victory. I'm still surprised to this day that Madotsuki lost, but I assume people were just caught in the hype by that point.
No.65468
Anonymous
Replies:>>65469
>>65416
There's a chance the Hilda girls were rigs given they fell off entirely since and they just felt odd especially if random green dog made it to the final the next year. I don't think Betty would have been rigged in the slightest, she kinda snuck on by with little pushback while everyone was and trying to force the "powerhouses" out so their waifu had a easier path. And we just got to the elite 8 and especially final four and people had a "oh shit" moment when they realized just how bad the choices left were and Betty was by far the best remaining.
You had to be there but this was the peak year of spite without a doubt, this is where FARTS and other stupid tearing down shit came about in paranoia and self-impotence. It declined since then because people felt we were lucky to avoid such a bad champion.
No.65469
Anonymous
Replies:>>65475
>>65468
It also isn't outrageous to think the very same people so obsessed with metagaming and making up smear campaigns to begin with would be the ones most willing to rig the tournaments, but hey that's just speculation.
I do feel bad for the genuine Hildafags out there though. Regardless if they were actually rigged or not, it must suck to have your characters' reputation completely tarnished despite putting in your best effort.
No.65475
Anonymous
>>65469
There are some cool ones but honestly Hildafags are probably the most pretentious fandom on the board. They got immortalized getting further than they ever would have normally so I don’t feel too bad for them.
No.65476
Anonymous
Image:169800112675.png(63kB, 197x193)1621895591156.png
>>64868
>>64903
What about we add TLH?
It's becomes LMAO!
No.65478
Anonymous
Replies:>>65520
Image:169800183339.jpg(142kB, 1007x1132)9DD8AEAB-9604-414F-BAB2-F809B97D0D41.jpeg
>>65331
>>65360
No.65487
Anonymous
Replies:>>65538
>>65337
It's crazy to think how close Optimus was of breaking Zorak's record as the lowest seed.
No.65492
Anonymous
Image:169800436586.jpg(186kB, 1152x864)arthur.jpg
Ruber lost
No.65501
Anonymous
Replies:>>65502
>>65492
>wasn't even nominated
KWABthur...
No.65502
Anonymous
>>65501
Arthur will win /lit/.
No.65507
Anonymous
>>65502
Not if BULLcelot has anything to say about that.
No.65508
Anonymous
Image:169800928494.jpg(485kB, 585x920)ahab.jpg
>>65502
>Arthur will lose round 1 in /lit/ to Ahab
ftfy
No.65513
Anonymous
>>65492
NOTEVENNOMINATEDthur...
No.65520
Anonymous
>>65478
What the fuck does Heathcliff do to get impeached frequently?
No.65523
Anonymous
Replies:>>65530
If clown show debuted two months earlier then it did it would have been an absolute disaster for these tournaments
One day there's going to be something that makes that rule extend to a year or a calendar year
No.65527
Anonymous
Replies:>>65529
People have been calling Fang a FoTM recently but I feel like that completely ignores her 2020 run. She beat the first seed outta nowhere and then stomped everyone not named monarch. She’s always been a powerhouse.
No.65529
Anonymous
>>65527
primal was airing when the tournament was happening. hell, the finale was only a few days after. hype was definitely a factor.
No.65530
Anonymous
>>65523
Even if it debuted in late July as to be eligible this year I don't think it woulda have gotten past the 2nd round. The thing with Spinel was the the SU fandom was already quite large and ingrained into the board for a while. That being said I'm going to grab the biggest tub of popcorn for next year when they drop a new episode like a week before the tournament.

It's an early prediction, but next year might be the best chance for an indie character to win a /co/ contest. It won't be one of the GLITCH characters though. They'll serve as a shield for most of the spite so that someone else can sneak through as the winner.
No.65531
Anonymous
Replies:>>65536
>>65530
You're talking about ENA aren't you?
No.65536
Anonymous
>>65531
If NSA confirming Nicole was only rigged in round 4 is any indication then that means the whole ENA is a tranny anti-campaign shit actually paid off for those retards.
No.65537
Anonymous
Image:169804185467.png(290kB, 679x652)Squidward-I am dissapointed.png
>>64817
No.65538
Anonymous
Image:169804434912.jpg(60kB, 600x622)Daffy basado.jpeg
>>65487
And if Daffy wins Mr. /co/ next year he will dethrone Tom as the oldest Mr. /co/ champion.
No.65541
Anonymous
Replies:>>65542
Image:169805506626.png(2.89MB, 2833x1475)blu rivers win screen.png
Here's Blu Rivers' final victory screen. Late I know, but someone requested me to finish it.
No.65542
Anonymous
>>65541
Nice job.
No.65546
Anonymous
Replies:>>65547
>>65530
This reminds me that Hazbin Hotel is out next year lol I wonder if Charlie will finally make it past the first round
No.65547
Anonymous
Replies:>>65552
>>65546
/co/ already spites vivzie and is going to dunk on it no matter what so probably not.
No.65552
Anonymous
Replies:>>65589
Image:169809453817.jpg(24kB, 554x554)732.jpeg
>>65547
Can confirm. It isn't helped that she's still making of herself an even bigger idiot with each post in social media. Also that trailer feels empty.
No.65589
Anonymous
Replies:>>65591
>>65552
At least the Vivzie gals had good runs in the side tournaments, hopefully that won't change if HH turns out to be complete garbage.
No.65591
Anonymous
>>65589
It will. What I don't get is how in one Ms. /co/ thread some bootlickers acted so defensive towards her "hurr you're obsessed!" when the Loona drawanon and others just poked fun of her once
No.65592
Anonymous
Replies:>>74102
>>65591
Because those bootlickers were snowflakes who wanted to be right after losing a previous argument.
No.65601
Anonymous
Who cares, where's Squidward?
No.65602
Anonymous
>>65601
rightfully gone
No.65604
Anonymous
Image:169817862257.png(124kB, 370x277)KEKbs.png
>>65601
He LOST.
No.65773
Anonymous
Replies:>>65774
Krabs is a jobbing faggot.
No.65774
Anonymous
Replies:>>65777
Image:169823187260.jpg(51kB, 1280x1024)JOBton.jpg
>>65773
>
No.65777
Anonymous
>>65774
Plankton also is a jobbing faggot.
No.65856
Anonymous
Replies:>>65993
Image:169828474528.jpg(152kB, 1040x701)Don Cangrejo.jpg
>Mr. Krabs latin VA passed away
Fuck man. At least Squidward's VA is still there. Literally everyone from the first season have been replaced except him.
No.65893
Anonymous
Image:169834676695.png(534kB, 4000x2799)1697999786219492.png
Now that the dust has settled, may I ask: where the fuck did Hank's campaigner(s) from Heroes go during all of this? Don't take this as an accusatory comment, I'm simply baffled at how much of a push he had during the side tournament compared to the main one. WarioAnon/Loonafag/Midnafag/Travis cosplayer pretty much was his sole source of OC and thread presence during this Mr. /co/.
No.65896
Anonymous
>>65893
Good question.
No.65898
Anonymous
>>65893
I saw one or two people try to anti-campaign by talking about Heroes lmao
No.65929
Anonymous
Image:169837262073.jpg(33kB, 640x480)Skelly.jpeg
>>65893
Do you mean the other Gmod user? He was supporting Skeletor's campaign as I did. Maybe he thought he did enough for Hank and was satisfied. I too I'm satisfied with Skeletor's win. Also what do you mean by Wario/Loona/Midna/Travis?
No.65933
Anonymous
>>65929
I only did that one video of Hank hitting his previous opponents with a buggy. The other stuff was by someone else. I thought about writefagging for Hank but I was busy doing stuff for Kuzco and Skeletor, so maybe I'll try that for 2025.
No.65944
Anonymous
Replies:>>65977
>>65929
>Also what do you mean by Wario/Loona/Midna/Travis?
It's just that that particular drawfag also happens to be the main campaigner for those characters in the other tournaments.
No.65977
Anonymous
Replies:>>65978
>>65944
>Midna/Travis
Kek, now it makes sense with those drawings of Midna and Travis killing Libby, but I doubt Loona and Wario are the same drawanon.
No.65978
Anonymous
Replies:>>65987
>>65977
Nah, they are. That anon got a tablet this year though.
No.65987
Anonymous
>>65978
Well damn. He's like the Wuya/Midna drawanon now. They both got two of their favourite characters to win.
No.65993
Anonymous
>>65856
damn almost the same age as my grandpa
No.66253
Anonymous
Image:169870411516.gif(1.51MB, 500x430)1633366485127.gif
>>64818
While I think the anon who first pointed it out was absolutely overreacting, he wasn't exactly wrong about the Wuya/Zim drawfag coming across as spiteful whille making art of the second place winner paired with the first place winner's counterpart. It isn't the first time that particular drawanon has done something questionable in the face of their(her?) main losing either, but that would be tackling stuff that belongs in the /v/ discussion thread.
No.66254
Anonymous
Replies:>>66255
>>66253
He's done this before?
No.66255
Anonymous
Replies:>>66336
>>66254
Drawing art of the preferred runner-up with the winner of the opposite gender? Nah. What I'm talking about is how I remember they had a pretty big meltdown when Albert Wesker lost to AM in king of /v/ last year.
No.66284
Anonymous
Image:169871608165.jpg(30kB, 480x480)424729720469244002.jpg
Alright so just to clarify this once and for all:
Culturefag was actually just an obnoxious idiot who cares too much about his "board culture" a troll and a discord server supposedly stalking him and an iphonefag. While NPF was supposedly the guy falseflagging as him as an attention whore in /aco/ and those Eris and Wuya threads? Is that what he meant?
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140018888/#140021512

Also how was he revealed to be an iphonefag?
No.66285
Anonymous
>>66284
I can't wrap my head around this shit.
No.66301
Anonymous
>>66284
Who cares. Just call him pinky.
No.66311
Anonymous
Replies:>>66375
>>66284
From what I got, culturefag is just some obnoxious anti-furry troll who uses board culture as a shield and who people (wrongly) lumped in with Numnuts. I don’t know or care if he actually was two different people during Ms. /aco/, but he seems to have stopped the act. Not something really worth delving into if his presence has vanished.
No.66332
Anonymous
Image:169876995360.jpg(22kB, 300x300)p3525080_e_h9_ab.jpg
Happy Halloween.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No.66333
Anonymous
Image:169877037451.png(194kB, 474x355)IMG_0629.png
THAT FAGGOT SQUIDWARD WON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT HIT HIM
https://twitter.com/NickBrawlGame/status/1719361511221501986
No.66335
Anonymous
>>66253
Skeletor getting cucked lore-wise is some hilarious poetic justice considering his tournament history but on its own drawing the runner up with the other winner does sound like sore loser behaviour. At least Zim x Eris also got art.
No.66336
Anonymous
>>66253
It came across more as coping than spiteful imo. Can you provide a source to >>66255?
No.66339
Anonymous
Replies:>>66351
>>66336
NTA but I know for a fact the Wuya//Zim/Black Hat artist mains Wesker in the /v/ tourney because they use Proceate (I’m an iPad drawing user too) and several of the white board collages features him. One of the big controversies surrounding last year’s ko/v/ involved an anon who made a big stink about Wesker losing the quarter finals match to AM despite having supported the latter with fanart in previous matches. I would like to believe I’m talking about different people here but nobody else draws Wesker during ko/v/.
No.66351
Anonymous
Replies:>>66353
Image:169878751197.jpg(266kB, 1257x417)autism and autism.jpg
>>66336
>>66339 summed it up, but if you need sources, just read the archived threads in arch.b4k of the rounds in question. This is already bordering into off-topic territory but I felt it was worth bringing up given the Skeletorfag who gave attention to the "cuckoldry" wanted to make a point about spiteful trolling over husbandos/waifus not winning.
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621400247
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621407005
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621414796
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621424694
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621434984
arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621447445
No.66353
Anonymous
Replies:>>66355
>>66351
I wanted Wesker to win because I wanted more R63 art
No.66355
Anonymous
Replies:>>66357
Image:169878849965.jpg(56kB, 328x326)16328638245892.jpg
>>66353
Then why were you voting in the male tournament?
No.66357
Anonymous
>>66355
Not that guy, but the Wuya drawfag said Black Hat was hot so he’s probably bi.
No.66358
Anonymous
No.66362
Anonymous
Replies:>>66370
>>66357
Anon, the Wuya drawfag and the Black Hat drawfag are the same person.
No.66370
Anonymous
>>66362
I know.
No.66375
Anonymous
>>66311
He isn't even one at all beyond a simple troll. The real Culturefag was also repeatedly telling others in that archived thread to stop putting the blame on Loonafags. Also was there any evidence of the whole iPhonefilenames he used and the IMG_ filenames being from the neopuritanfag?
No.66639
Anonymous
Scale of spite (for future reference)
>popular 2000's characters (plus anything Genndy-related)
>classic vintage characters
>fluke lesser known characters with campaign
>famous comic characters
(Power gap of spite begins)
>series that premiered relatively recently
>loli's
>characters from a past winner's series
>past runner-ups
>FARTS
>meme characters
(POWER GAP)
>Vivzieshit
>nu-DTVA
>Loudpedo's
>Homosuck
>previously known rigged characters
(POWERGAP)
>SUtroons
>ponies if they ever come back
No.66647
Anonymous
>>66639
Yeah that sounds about right.
No.68065
Anonymous
>>65008
>>65021
These posts aged like wine.
No.68066
Anonymous
>>68065
Hooooooooooooo boy.
No.68217
Anonymous
Replies:>>68657
>>66639
So basically the scale goes
>1 or 2 vocal autists
>small but noticeable presence of spite against them
>heavily spited, probably somewhere around half the voterbase outside their community actively votes against them
>spited by almost everyone
Makes sense, I feel like furfag characters would be in the second tier and then any perceived "silent majority" picks during that tournament would go there as well.
No.68307
Anonymous
Image:169999080348.png(777kB, 1309x856)1521886775942.png
/co/ only anons who don't know about this year's Queen of /v/ are going to be so confused when the tournaments start back up next year and suddenly everyone fucking despises Balls
No.68308
Anonymous
Replies:>>68396
>>68307
That’s assuming Balls hasn’t stepped down by that point.
No.68312
Anonymous
>>68065
What makes /v/ in general so trigger-happy in regards to /co/ overlapping?
No.68341
Anonymous
Image:170000700274.jpg(102kB, 686x310)AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.jpg
lmao
No.68342
Anonymous
>>68341
I still stand by that.
No.68366
Anonymous
Replies:>>68369
Image:170001005107.png(326kB, 1000x1000)1700009621186793.png
/rent free/
No.68369
Anonymous
>>68366
>All these results for /co/
Jesus Christ man.
No.68371
Anonymous
>>68341
He wouldn't. He would probably just fit neatly.
No.68396
Anonymous
Replies:>>68458
>>68307
>>68308
I think this aged like milk.
No.68458
Anonymous
Replies:>>68481
No.68461
Anonymous
Replies:>>68462
>>68312
As a /v/ only anon who decided to lurk. It's generally because the thread quality was much better before all that, especially in regards to 2021 when it was kept to minimum.
No.68462
Anonymous
>>68461
It feels like the bitching about /co/ only really took off in the Losers Finals and Grand Finals, it was still bad before then but at least there was other shit going on to distract people from the /co/ posts.
No.68463
Anonymous
>>68462
Yeah it's probably because the more thread quality decreased the angrier people are. You also gonna keep in mind before 2022 there was barely any crossposting and crossover stuff at all. They need stuff to blame at for the shittening, /dbs/ and /co/ was perfect target for that and the posters weren't exactly making them looks good.
No.68471
Anonymous
Replies:>>68473
>>68312
/v/ is just thinner skin and angrier which probably comes with vidya fans in general. It's just a thing with that medium and its culture.
>>68462
There was snap trigger seething long before that. Lets not forget Libbyfag basically just making some avatarfag posts sent them into a fit of rage tot he point they were making edits and OC's of her dying. People see that use it to funpost. Though I don't think its all the malicious kind of funpost, only IC-imitator fag was.
No.68473
Anonymous
Replies:>>68475
>>68471
Personally I don't think being angry is all that bad, and expressing that into /v/ killing /co/ characters is funny. I geniuely laughed at Joker's shit I won't lie. But yeah what started it was Libbyfag, and now there's more people avatarfagging as /co/ characters which caused even more issues.
No.68475
Anonymous
Replies:>>68478
>>68473
Sure but when you pair it with how /co/ treats cross-boarding /v/ looks kind of like rage-tards. Tourney's are intertwined and there's going to be inevitable crossover. Unless we want to start forcing /v/ out of any /co/ discussion too.
No.68478
Anonymous
>>68475
Eh I don't go to /co/ so how much was actually there of /v/ anyway? Asking for references.
No.68481
Anonymous
>>68458
It ended well.
No.68482
Anonymous
>>68481
Don't think people aren't dissapointed with balls.
No.68485
Anonymous
Replies:>>68491
>>68478
There was a LOT of discussion about Recette near the end of Mr and she still got brought up in the afterparty, which no one really minded.
No.68486
Anonymous
>>68481
It did, but my opinion on Balls is still the same.
No.68488
Anonymous
Replies:>>68491
>>68478
/v/ has a history of popping up in /co/ tourney's. Back when the first /v/ tourney happened in 2019 there was cross posting asking people to vote. There's always been occasional discussion about tourney's and winners since. At a few points entire mini /v/ tourney's happened inside the /co/ threads as part of /v/ hype, and lots of "post who you're nominating for /v/" stuff ect. This year it got rather bad with a lot of seethe about Recette and whole threads becoming /v/ discussion. But anyways cross tourney posting has always been a thing there, and /co/ is pretty much always chill about it.
No.68491
Anonymous
Replies:>>68495
>>68485
>>68488
Ah so just the usual tournament meta
But what about avatarfagging and DTVAposting? Was there any equivalence?
No.68493
Anonymous
/co/ is generally more mature than /v/
No.68495
Anonymous
Replies:>>68497
>>68491
DTVA is common and basically a faction that's been saddled with funposter jobber status.
If by the other avatarfagging you mean IC phonepost fagging yes he's a home-grown problem there. /co/ has MANY schizo's and he's just one of them. And he's arguably not even the original IC, but an imitator schizo of his own.
No.68497
Anonymous
Replies:>>68500
>>68495
Yeah I just mean like /v/ characters avatarfagged in /co/
I heard Dedede was there but what else?
No.68500
Anonymous
Replies:>>68515
>>68497
Not very noticeably. There's Dedede and some Battler faggotry i think.
No.68515
Anonymous
>>68500
I personally don't mind tourney meta talks, and some people may get annoyed at it here and there but I think the actual problem is just the /co/ schizos funposting throughout the tournament and it drive anons insane.
Sure you may call that rage tardy and batshit insane, but I can't really blame them for getting angry. I know I feel like you guys would be if there were average Touhou image dump throughout Ms. /co/ consistently.
No.68554
Anonymous
>>68515
Ehhhhh, wouldn’t be the first time, Gaston’s always accompanied by Suiseiseki funposting and people don’t really mind, unless off topic shit overtakes an entire thread it’s either ignored or even humored a bit.
No.68561
Anonymous
Replies:>>68566
>>68515
Pretty sure it continues largely cause /v/ reacts so sharply to it.
Also /dbs/ has definitely been the worst offender on both boards.
No.68566
Anonymous
>>68561
Still wonder if the actual /dbs/ threads are aware of the tourney, I know one theory exist that there's so much /dbs/ funposting because of the Deathbattle threads. What do you guys think?
No.68570
Anonymous
>>68566
I never go in DB threads. They're basically their own world apart from /co/.
No.68630
Anonymous
Replies:>>68736
>>68566
There are definitely SOME posters on /dbs/ who know about the tournaments, I would know since I'm one of them and a Mikufag who turned up in the afterparty thread admitted to being the Spooky Mikufag from /dbs/, but I think the halls in general are unaware.
No.68657
Anonymous
>>68217
Pretty much. I'd also add "pity advantage" to the 2nd tier.
No.68736
Anonymous
Replies:>>68770
>>68630
iirc there was also the perifag who was said to have been in /dbs/ threads on trash using his SU avatar but when I asked the main halls on /a/ about this guy around the time his rampage was over they said they never encountered him and claimed that SU is western moeshit, so I guess he was part of a group of imposters or imitators or rouge members who didn’t stay in line within the threads. It’s not that hard to imagine there being copycats
No.68768
Anonymous
Replies:>>68769
SPeaking of crossover faggotry
FIO and ROLL now join CHEL, HANK, and JACK in three-time E8 purgatory.
No.68769
Anonymous
>>68768
most asterisk attempts are losers being salty. Spinel and Fang are the only ones who deserve it, on /co/ at least, i don’t know about the other boards
No.68770
Anonymous
>>68736
He uses the trash general which is explained here. https://chadsofa.miraheze.org/wiki/Trash
No.68771
Anonymous
>>68770
>For example, at one point /treasure/ successfully raided the pedophiles thread and terrorized the moeshitters infesting them such as the Owlfags and Amphibiafags.
wtf this rivalry is canon outside the tournaments?
No.68772
Anonymous
>>68770
>/treasure/
Kek
No.68774
Anonymous
Replies:>>68849
>>68771
It's funny that the only remnant of this rivalry is the /dbs/ and DTVA shitflinging in the tournaments, because Amphibia is practically never brought up now and the Tien/Owl House meme only broughts up every once in a blue moon.
No.68777
Anonymous
Replies:>>68779
Funny how Courage had a bigger campaign in Queen /v/ than in last year's Mr. /co/.
No.68779
Anonymous
>>68777
No. Courage had a campaign and artists last year. This Queen /v/ just might be fresher on your mind.
No.68782
Anonymous
All asterisk attempts are by salty losers tbqh desu fampai

And yes that includes spinel
No.68783
Anonymous
>>68782
This
NSAsterisk bitch is retarded for trying to make them an official thing.
No.68784
Anonymous
>>68782
There was a reason Stats explictly said asterisks weren't official
No.68785
Anonymous
>>68782
I have held myself from saying this before, but to what extent was that Hispanic Facebook group believed to have influenced Ms 2019? Spinel's run and final match results are sketchy, yes, but to say she couldn’t have won without rigging has always felt like hyperbole and dishonesty to me.
No.68808
Anonymous
Replies:>>68836
>Queen thread gets pruned when I was about to reply
Might as well post this here even if the guy won't see it. I loved Tag-Team 2020 too. It was one big roleplay where eveyone just let their autism flow uninterrupted. I think why it has gotten buried is because of being hosted on a place most tourney posters only used during it and the lack of OC made for it meaning you had to experience it to know about it.
No.68836
Anonymous
Replies:>>68875
>>68808
That was me. Yeah it's kind of the hidden gem of tourneys. When most think back to the big /co/ rping they mainly think Mr. 2020. I doubt we'll ever quite get that again. Too much cynicism and controversies passed. The /v/ side tourneys were sort of similar though.
No.68849
Anonymous
Replies:>>68854
Image:170009686932.png(50kB, 212x182)1634980566191.png
>>68774
The strangest part is that /dbs/ is mixed about /tlhg/. We have some /dbs/posting, but there is a Bejitabro who mocks us.
No.68854
Anonymous
Replies:>>68863
Image:170009742565.png(608kB, 1280x720)Serious Goku.png
>>68849
Why is a Bejitabro hanging out in a Loud House general.
No.68863
Anonymous
>>68854
Refer to
>>68771.
No.68875
Anonymous
>>68836
People are also still getting banned for rping in /co/ tournaments.
No.68884
Anonymous
Okay, what the fuck actually counts as /co/? /v/ apparently doesn't mind if a non-vidya rep gets in as long as the game adaptation had a good impact, while /co/ is a LOT more complicated. It's made very clear that anime isn't allowed, but why isn't ALL Asian animation, say, like Cherry or Jadoo, /a/? What about French animation, which IIRC is called anime over there? What about anime that were inspired by Western animation?
No.68891
Anonymous
>>68884
Doctor Doom is still a baffling whitelist. Others make sense whether you agree with them or not due to their ties to vidya culture. Like, there's no world where I see Christopher Robin doing well in /co/ or even /lit/.
No.68899
Anonymous
Replies:>>68903
>>68891
>Like, there's no world where I see Christopher Robin doing well in /co/ or even /lit/.
Christopher Robin qualifying for a side tournament like Villains of /v/ but not Heroes of /co/ demonstrates this perfectly.
No.68903
Anonymous
>>68891
>>68899
The Christopher Robin in Ko/v/ is a /v/ OC, not an actual videogame character.
No.68916
Anonymous
>>68884
if it originated in a comic or cartoon made outside of japan(or korea aka "I can't Believe It's Not Japan!"), or it qualified for a previous tournament, it's allowed. really not that hard.
No.68917
Anonymous
Replies:>>68998
>>68884
>What about anime that were inspired by Western animation?
We're in, CHADgon CHADs.
No.68923
Anonymous
>>68891
>Like, there's no world where I see Christopher Robin doing well in /co/ or even /lit/
Yeah, that's because the "Christopher Robin" of /v/ isn't fucking Christopher Robin at all, it's literally just some shitty Sonic.exe-tier OC that's the same thing as Fang (Snoot Game). It's complete fucking garbage.
No.68927
Anonymous
>>68782
I'm bringing up /v/ shit in a /co/ thread, but I think the Ashley situation definitely does deserve an asterisk because it was objectively a fuck-up and the hosts admit she wasn't supposed to be there.
No.68998
Anonymous
Image:170011528601.png(1.60MB, 1766x1786)726ce233e37b20c0501d74a340b6656a.png
>>68917
LupinGODS, we have been summoned
No.69002
Anonymous
>>68770
Actually reading through the wiki and all the dbs nonsense is now way funnier in context.
No.69013
Anonymous
poal.me/c48yqg

poal.me/turms0
No.69029
Anonymous
Image:170015446981.png(31kB, 904x427)msmr.png
>>69013
Shows the difference of the two pretty well.
No.69031
Anonymous
>>69029
I was about to post the same thing.
No.69048
Anonymous
>>69013
>Jenny
I actually like Wuya more, both as a winner and as a character, but how this year went down was horrible, and votes were likely skewed by the extreme anti-rigging measures, so I can't vote for her. Jenny is the only Ms. /co/ winner to pull it off without controversy. 
>Zorak
Even though I preferred Carl way more (he or Shake should be Mr. 2024), Zorak also feels right as a /co/ rep in hindsight. From his show's huge influence on cartoon network and adult swim to its surrealist humor and Zorak being a villain, this is what I picture a Mr. /co/lympus as. 
No.69061
Anonymous
>>69013
>Jenny
She's the only winner to not be controversial and is from a classic show
>Kronk
I just think he's really funny and his movie is excellent
No.69063
Anonymous
Image:170016957215.jpg(69kB, 1024x857)happy_jenny_xj9_by_juacoproductionsarts_de2h5i3-fullview.jpg
>Jenny still has every single vote
What a true OG champ.
Solidifies my thoughts that she'd be able win a /co/ all-stars tourney.
No.69064
Anonymous
Replies:>>69065
>>69063
Would an all-stars tourney be unisex or would there be separate ones for the men and women?
No.69065
Anonymous
>>69064
Think it'd depend. if it's just the champions after 8 years then it'd probably be both. If it's all-stars as in something like anyone that ever made E8 + qualified every tourney then there should probably be enough to split genders.
No.69069
Anonymous
>>68884
/a/ is just Japan.
No.69223
Anonymous
As a character my favorite winner is Fang, nothing else comes close really.
No.69224
Anonymous
>>69063
>gloating about a five year old victory and winning a poll on a side board where your pick is a sacred cow
Autism thy name is /tnt/
No.69228
Anonymous
No.69231
Anonymous
>>69063
I thought of voting for someone else, but I just couldn't justify any of them. Worst part is that I personally feel Jenny's the least significant winner of the four major inaugurals, even if she was still an excellent first pick.
No.69238
Anonymous
>>69231
>Jenny's the least significant winner of the four major inaugurals
I'd disagree. She's gotta lot of history and presence on the board, and is basically a classic at this point. In an all-round sense she's as good as the others. At least not below Bravo.
No.69253
Anonymous
No.69254
Anonymous
>>69231
She still gets regular threads on /co/, she’s one of the most significant if you ask me.
No.69288
Anonymous
>>69231
The least significant inaugural is Samus and by far.
No.69330
Anonymous
Image:170025755296.png(76kB, 918x538)1568822280752.png
How would you feel about Spinel as a winner if there was no rigging? I skimmed through the archives, and the biggest drama of 2019 was Spinel just being there. So many hated her since the start and it became a joke to vote for her to cause seethe. Also, here's a meme from Round 2.
No.69333
Anonymous
>>69330
Still wouldn't like her since SU is rubbish and its posters are some of the most insufferable faggots on /co/, and she'd still be massive FotM, but I guess maybe I'd consider her a D tier winner instead of an F
No.69334
Anonymous
>>69330
The same. Spinel's win was already too fucking bullshit and bad meta to evaluated like any other winner. I thought SU was alright and Spinel one of their best characters, but as a tourney winner she's not really a "ms. /co/" at all, more like some kind of symbolic catalyst.
No.69341
Anonymous
>>69330
She would’ve still been bad, but not AS bad.
No.69342
Anonymous
Image:170026868171.jpg(454kB, 642x685)1679928386819080.jpg
>>69330
Spinel would still be 100% the worst winner.
You actually just had to be there, my introduction to these tournaments came from Ms. /co/ 2019 because /co/ as a board wouldn't shut the fuck up about Spinel about an entire year. The month that Ms. /co/ was held, Spinel was just the standard image you'd see in the catalog, there was no escaping it.

Spinel alongside Ms. and Mr. /co/ 2020 RP autism is the reason why it is on sight when Tournament threads are made off-season.
No.69343
Anonymous
>>69342
>Mr. /co/ 2020 RP autism
wish people would stop spreading this meme
No.69345
Anonymous
>>69342
The roleplaying in 2020 was kino.
No.69346
Anonymous
Replies:>>69396
Did RP cause the thread deletions in 2021? I can't remember.
No.69350
Anonymous
>>69330
Definitely not as bad, but would still be a strange second winner that got a huge FOTM boost.
No.69384
Anonymous
>>69013
>Zorak is still the top choice in the male poll
Crazy how despite his relative obscurity and underdog status he's such an agreeable choice for a champion. Maybe I’m overestimating these results since the sample is very small but I could see Zorak at least rank high in that eventual All-Winners showdown.
No.69391
Anonymous
Replies:>>69395
Who the fuck keeps voting for Tom
No.69395
Anonymous
Image:170032645335.png(130kB, 560x511)1604177835312.png
>>69391
>he doesn't like tom
KWAB
No.69396
Anonymous
>>69342
>>69346
It was never confirmed what caused ms. /co/ deletions in 2021. A lot of people said rp but it's also very likely the porn hjacking fusefag was doing with the OP's.
No.69402
Anonymous
>>69013
>Spinel's the only one with no votes
Based.
No.69404
Anonymous
>fang is second place with over a quarter of the votes

Bros you said she was a hated asterisk that’s spinel tier what the fuck
No.69407
Anonymous
Replies:>>69412
>>69404
One guy ever said that. There's a case for her being the best since she was a legit powerhouse with hype and giga campaign that lasted three years and busted through everyone on the bracket. The only problem is how her victory finale went down, but that was the hosts fault.
Personally I'm very meh on her. She's simply not bad. I voted her just so furrigers wouldn't win.
No.69408
Anonymous
>>69404
Fang's campaign was a sight to behold. Up until her win, she had the second most OC of any character in the tournaments yet only being beat by Batter and then barely beaten by AM the following King. She had over 100 more than the second most in /co/, Grievous. Even if her win year was a mess, I get why some think she's worthy to be considered the best, but I voted for Jenny.
No.69411
Anonymous
>>69404
Also Primal is an all-around very impressive show and Fang is a good character for a cartoon T-Rex.
No.69412
Anonymous
Replies:>>69423
>>69407
>One guy ever said that.
delusional
No.69417
Anonymous
Image:170034179299.png(1.78MB, 2160x1081)Mr vs Ms.png
>>69013
>>69029
No.69422
Anonymous
>>69417
Anti-Fangbros...
No.69423
Anonymous
Replies:>>69424
Image:170034245612.png(28kB, 1170x876)IMG_8414.png
>>69412
Okay, TWO guys ever said.
No.69424
Anonymous
Replies:>>69427
>>69423
Three guys.
I hate Fang too.
No.69426
Anonymous
Replies:>>69447
>>69417
>17 votes for Mr.
>20 votes for Ms.
>only voted for Mr.
No.69427
Anonymous
Replies:>>69433
>>69424
Snootbros..
No.69433
Anonymous
>>69427
That reminds me: that Fang was also in Co-op earlier this year, and even there she couldn't win a match. It's almost impressive how bad her record is considering her high seeds.
No.69447
Anonymous
Replies:>>69465
>>69426
never trust internet polls. they're always fixed or botted somehow.
No.69465
Anonymous
>>69447
Tourneybros...
No.69492
Anonymous
>just under 1/3rd of the vote
Uhhh, anti-fang bros what the fuck…
No.69493
Anonymous
I'm not super huge on Fang myself, but I can kind of get why she's in a clear second here. Her winning year was a mess and she did have some recency bias, but even then so much of her push WAS just genuine love for the character and Primal itself. She had two years where she tore through matches and din't really have any strings attached. While I'm glad for Wuya's fans, I still think she's a weirder winner in hindsight once you separate the wild campaign push she got this year. I myself did vote her through a lot of the tournament due to said push, but it really did carry a character that I feel under a lot of circumstances would have way less eyes on her. The other three all have clear grievances: Spinel had massive FOTM and rigging, Monarch had show cancellation pity, and Betty was largely seen as a product of spite.

This tournament is really fucked aside from the OC, huh?
No.69498
Anonymous
>>69493
Fang does have the grievance of having never faced the supposed actual runner-up (which is where the * posting for her is centered on). But this is kind of overlooked on the assumption she would have very likely won anyways since Chel had very little hype and Fang seemed unstoppable.
I also wouldn't call Wuya that strange. She had all the latent factors for a winning character, she just needed the right luck and a small push to set things rolling.
No.69501
Anonymous
>>69417
Makes sense /tnt/'s roleplay character is #1 but this site is not indicative of /co/'s opinion
No.69503
Anonymous
Replies:>>69510
>>69501
/tnt/ is a microcosm of /co/'s opinion.
No.69504
Anonymous
>>69493
>didn't really have any strings attached
She was the unconventional pick
No.69509
Anonymous
Replies:>>69518
>>69501
I'd have expected Johnny to lead considering he was the first winner and biggest stomper in history.
No.69510
Anonymous
>>69503
/tnt/ is not indicative of /co/'s opinion or John Silver would be champion this year
It's a very closed group, mostly /v/ posters, who are far more into roleplay then those who regularly participate
No.69511
Anonymous
>>69510
>John Silver would be champion this year
John Silver isn’t even the most cocksucked /co/ character here. I think you are still letting the reactions to Tag-team 22 get over your head.
No.69518
Anonymous
>>69509
I'm not that surprised Zorak is at the top because his win is more recent so he's still fresh in people's minds and people here tend to care more and put more emphasis on campaigns than the character.
No.69520
Anonymous
Replies:>>69525
>>69510
I rarely vote for John Silver
No.69521
Anonymous
Replies:>>69523
>>69510
John Silver is shit, stop thinking that one person liking him means everyone does.
No.69523
Anonymous
Replies:>>69524
>>69521
I thank you for calling out that fag but John Silver is far from shit. Even if Treasure Planet isn’t your cup of tea everyone can agree John Silver is one of the best things in that film.
No.69524
Anonymous
>>69523
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but I still don't care for the guy.
No.69525
Anonymous
>>69520
>Voted for Monarch over Silver
>Voted for Silver over Ice King
/co/ really knows how to let me down when it comes to this guy
No.69526
Anonymous
Replies:>>69531
>>69525
Ice King didn’t even have much of a campaign this year.
No.69527
Anonymous
Replies:>>69554
>>69525
Monarch really should've been the VB rep to win 2020.
No.69531
Anonymous
>>69526
Well there were several anons trying to get him off the ground, until the brapposter became too big a distraction.
No.69553
Anonymous
>>69510
>mostly /v/ posters
I'd say it's half-and-half, and depends on time of the year.
No.69554
Anonymous
>>69527
Still wild that the sole winner for the show wasn't in Mr. /co/.
No.69555
Anonymous
Replies:>>69640
What do you say about adventure games and interactive movies could be allowed in /co/lympus? Adventure games can be very animated. Walking Dead and Sam&Max are known for their adventure games more than their comics. Not to mention in the case of interactive movies we got Don Bluth with Space Ace and Dragon's Lair. And we DID try doing a whitelist. If you decline the idea, I'll still understand.
No.69556
Anonymous
Replies:>>69557
I don't know about any of that but Bejita is clearly undefeated against TARDku
No.69557
Anonymous
Replies:>>69558
>>69556
...in my headcanon.
No.69558
Anonymous
Replies:>>69559
Image:170046032992.jpg(657kB, 959x2609)the mighty score.jpg
>>69557
Could you repeat that?
No.69559
Anonymous
Replies:>>69560
>>69558
...in my headcanon.
No.69560
Anonymous
Replies:>>69561
Image:170046085275.jpg(109kB, 931x309)1682984116142474.jpg
>>69559
Could you repeat that?
No.69561
Anonymous
Replies:>>69563
Image:170046113722.png(111kB, 362x330)q-tips-cotton-swabs-400-units.png
>>69560
...in my headcanon.
No.69563
Anonymous
Replies:>>69564
Video:170046243637.mp4(520kB / 0:00:15 / avc1, 480x380)goku.mp4
>>69561
Could you repeat that?
No.69564
Anonymous
Replies:>>69565
Image:170046280502.png(1.84MB, 1600x1290)Q-TipMan.png
>>69563
...in my headcanon.
No.69565
Anonymous
Replies:>>69592
Image:170046489329.png(1.57MB, 1127x800)1661878423166.png
>>69564
Could you repeat that?
No.69592
Anonymous
Replies:>>69729
>>69565
...in my headcanon.
No.69640
Anonymous
>>69555
Depends of the device. Video games no, Netflix yes.
No.69670
Anonymous
>>69330
Probably still would’ve been a shitshow, the rigging accusations didn’t REALLY start coming out until ms /co/ 2020 when Basil(The great mouse detective)anon uncovered the Peruvians plot. On a note it seems like ms /co/ 2019 still remains the worst tournament in general as queen /v/ this year had the proper winner in the end, in all honesty I only showed up to actually vote for the characters rather than stick around but damn did I dodge a bullet from witnessing some of the most intense drama yet
No.69673
Anonymous
>>69670
It will be hard to outdo ms. 2019. The host would have to actively try to make it bad and NSA almost succeeded.
No.69683
Anonymous
Replies:>>69740
>>69673
Balls*
No.69688
Anonymous
>>69670
>>69673
We found out Spinel was rigged after and the host quit, but 2022 had rigging going on live with little done to stop it until the end and we're stuck with a host no one trusts after 2023. Tell me some other drama from 2019 because I think these past two years have it beat as the worst besides having objectively better winners.
No.69729
Anonymous
Replies:>>69736
Image:170054165139.jpg(92kB, 918x1125)BLACKgeta.jpg
>>69592
No.69735
Anonymous
Jennybros fang tied us what the actual fuck
No.69736
Anonymous
Image:170054314610.jpg(73kB, 900x900)vr.jpg
>>69729
No.69737
Anonymous
Replies:>>69754
>>69735
Huh, how’d that happen.
No.69740
Anonymous
>>69683
He did a shit job responding to people aside from arguably the very end, but I'm quicker to blame the guy who seemed to be central in every single major incident this year.
No.69745
Anonymous
Replies:>>69807
>>69735
>Mr. /co/ poll still stuck at 20 votes
No.69754
Anonymous
>>69737
When in doubt the answer is probably BIG RIGS.
No.69794
Anonymous
>Jenny is losing
We got too cocky…
No.69796
Anonymous
The Mr. /co/ votes being relatively evenly distributed (even though it has less overall responses than the Ms. poll) compared to Ms. is, I think, a good reflection of the attitudes towards each contest.
No.69807
Anonymous
Replies:>>69813
Image:170058896356.jpg(102kB, 1375x749)1688452278115454.jpg
>>69745
>>69754
>fangfags have to rig opinion polls to astroturf support for their hostrig victory
fang* is SHIT and FINISHED
No.69808
Anonymous
Replies:>>69832
>>69796
I’m kinda surprised Kronk is the only Mr. /co/ with two votes instead of four (at the moment).
No.69813
Anonymous
>>69807
>>69754
t. Robotfag cope
No.69832
Anonymous
Replies:>>69835
>>69808
Kronk one's of the weaker winners, so that makes sense.
No.69835
Anonymous
Replies:>>69896
>>69832
In terms of winning percentages, he is actually the strongest behind Bravo.
No.69896
Anonymous
>>69835
The thing with Kronk is he's just widely inoffensive and generally liked. There's nothing you could actually hold against him. And 2019 was before things went so campaign-crazy. So he's a strong winner but there's nothing particular about him that makes him stand out like the others.
No.69900
Anonymous
Replies:>>70042
If I wanted to cheat on an opinion poll I would at least have the decency of attempting subtlety and make sure to balance out other options as well as to vote on the other poll linked in the same post. As it stands this is pretty pathetic.
No.69911
Anonymous
Replies:>>69916
Which Ms. /co/ winner would win in a twerk off?
No.69916
Anonymous
Replies:>>69941
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>>69911
Fucking easy: Wuya.
Despite being ms. /co/'s, most girls are actually inadequate when it comes to twerking in either form or possession.

>Jenny
A 50/50 that she either has no clue what it is or she's familiar but is absolutely shit at it. Her body is also not of best shapes (Literally a fucking box ass).
With upgrades she'd be 1# but that's cheating

>Spinel
Probably has a faint idea of whats "twerking" is but ends up overdoing it and does something completely different.

>Dr. Mrs. Monarch
Possess one of the best assets but is probably clueless on how to actually twerk.

>Betty Boop
Possess decent asset but she isn't familiar with what Twerking is due to what time period she comes in. If described she might be a decent twerker.

>Fang
A fucking dinosaur

>Wuya
Best form.
Best asset.
She probably is one of the best twerkers there is. Even if she was utterly alien to what twerking is, she'd learn it in a blink of an eye be a pro at it.
No.69927
Anonymous
Replies:>>70042
>>69796
If by that you mean how shit and rigged ms. is on average to mr. yes.
No.69941
Anonymous
>>69916
Can she beat Midna though?
No.70038
Anonymous
Do you think that Wuya porn animation is ever gonna be done or nah?
No.70040
Anonymous
Replies:>>70041
>>70038
The what?
Elaborate on this, please.
No.70041
Anonymous
>>70040
One of Wuya's artists promised he would animate a fully voiced porno of her and Eris if the former won.
No.70042
Anonymous
Replies:>>70044
>>69900
>>69927
>they can't handle that 15 people like Fang more than they do Jenny
No.70043
Anonymous
Replies:>>70073
>Jenny literally gets every vote
>seems legit
>fang gets votes
>REEEEEEEEE RIGGED REEEEEEEEEEE
I knew she was a sacred cow but damn
No.70044
Anonymous
>>70042
handle this *
No.70045
Anonymous
Replies:>>70053
I can accept Fang being 2nd most popular girl winner but these rigged mini polls are not a good way of gauging it.
It probably goes
Jenny > Fang > Wuya > Monarch > Betty => Spinel
The men are much harder to guess. It'd be the more interesting all-star line-up.
No.70053
Anonymous
Replies:>>70054
>>70045
people just say jenny is good and don’t give a shit about anyone else. i’d say wuya is probably the second most popular, as she’s the most traditional winner besides jenny, but we’d have to wait for next year to properly gauge her reaction.
No.70054
Anonymous
>>70053
Jenny has 'sacred cow' status cause she was, thus far, the only winner of a pure and uncontroversial ms. tourney. The fact we can't even have a mini poll on a side site without evident rigging and bickering shows how fucked ms. /co/ is.
I'd argue Wuya lacks somewhat in pure popularity since she was never an actual powerhouse, just a consistent character that finally got the right cards. Fang was and probably still is a powerhouse and would have won against Wuya in a hypothetical finals.
No.70055
Anonymous
>>70054
yeah, but you’re forgetting the elephant in the room: Ms. /co/ 2022 was a complete shitshow and Fang’s win was under, at best, dubious circumstances. she’s Spinel-tier.
No.70073
Anonymous
Replies:>>70103
>>70043
The votes came in batches and now the vote count is notably above the men. That's not normal.
No.70094
Anonymous
>all this commotion over a poll that isn't even a side tournament
I fear the all-stars tournament will reach unprecedented salt levels
No.70096
Anonymous
>>70055
No winner no matter how much you dislike him or her is Spinel tier
Fang's victory was utterly shat on by host retardation and her "finals" was an utter farce but at the end of the day what happened with her happened from anons on 4chan
Spinel can't even really be considered a 4chan or /co/ winner because the people who got her to win were Facebook peruvians rather than /co/ anons which automatically makes her a tier below any 4chan tournament winner due to her victory not even coming from 4chan.
No.70097
Anonymous
Replies:>>70139
>>70055
The manner of the win is besides the point. She was unstoppable and no one that year was going to beat her anyways.
No.70103
Anonymous
Image:170079789895.jpg(17kB, 295x367)1391627209354.jpg
>>70054
>>70073
Anon nobody is fucking rigging a side poll. It's like you actually drunk the 'nobody really liked Fang' kool-aid.
No.70107
Anonymous
>>70103
I'm not the first anon. I'm not surprised Fang got a lot of votes, but the exact nature of them is strange. It could be anybody behind it, so I don't really care. Fang deserved her win and was a sheer beast in both 2020 and 2022.
No.70109
Anonymous
>>70103
I literally say in my post Fang is a powerhouse, faggot. But 15 votes suddenly for one option on a tiny poll that doesn't correlate with the other poll is obvious bullshit though.
No.70110
THE Rigger
Image:170080096337.jpg(46kB, 736x862)MeIRL.jpg
>>70103
No.70111
Anonymous
>>70038
Anon, you realize those take time.
Even if they’ve started since Ms. /co/, it is doubtful it is going to be done till next year.
No.70139
Anonymous
>>70097
>The manner of the win is besides the point.
the manner of the win is the entire fucking point you dipshit
No.70143
Anonymous
>>70139
I’m ranking whoever is most popular and would be voted on again. This isn’t a purely tourney meta question. Even then your hang-up about Fang’s win has been your own obsession.
No.70146
Anonymous
>>70143
if Fang were to ever compete again, the spite against her would be nuclear. you try to pretend her win wasn't completely fucked but it's not going to stop being a thing that happened.
Wuya is the most traditional winner since Jenny, she's second best by virtue of being non-controversial.
No.70148
Anonymous
Replies:>>70151
>>70146
People don’t give that much of a fuck. The common opinion is she was always going to win and she’s the most hyped ms. candidate in history. Only certain obsessed autists (probably you) keep trying to bury her.
No.70149
Anonymous
Replies:>>70152
>>70139
>>70143
>>70146
Fang is the best winner because I like her best :)
No.70151
Anonymous
>>70148
>People don’t give that much of a fuck.
this is cope
>The common opinion is she was always going to win
this is also cope
>Only certain obsessed autists (probably you) keep trying to bury her.
this is cope as well
No.70152
Anonymous
Replies:>>70157
>>70149
Also talking about rankings and all-star tournaments when we only have 12 winners combined is pointless, that's something that shouldn't be considered for years. And assuming everyone would vote for Wuya over Fang because her run is more "clean" is a dumb argument. I'd vote for a lot of other winners over Wuya and I voted for her a good chunk of her run this year.
No.70154
Anonymous
I just want to kiss Zorak.
No.70155
Anonymous
Replies:>>70157
Will the all-star tournaments be held on the 9th year? As part of the main poll or a side tournament?
No.70157
Anonymous
>>70152
>>70155
8th year seems to be the assumption. Could be right after the 8th Ms. and Mr.
No.70158
Anonymous
Replies:>>70165
Speaking of which I have the same autistic thought here as /v/. I'll take these tournaments as "srs business" the first 8 years to get the super-elite line-up, after that it's non-canon and I don't care. So let's please get good winners the next two years. Ms. has already shit the bed too many times.
No.70165
Anonymous
>>70158
I'm counting them canon until one of my mains win Mr.
No.70168
Anonymous
Image:170086186712.png(919kB, 594x849)the most nothing burger of a controversy i've seen.PNG
Blu Riverheads...
No.70169
Anonymous
Replies:>>70172
>>70168
(people are actually mad about this btw)
No.70172
Anonymous
Replies:>>70183
>>70168
>>70169
What is there to be mad about?
No.70173
Anonymous
Is the Judyanon still around? I recognized his artsyle when he made that simple but funny elite 8 drawing in Queen. Just wanted to say if you're still around that it's great to see you're making OC to this day
No.70176
Anonymous
>>70173
I don't think it's even correct to call them that anymore knowing the character is now tarnished for some idiots
No.70181
Anonymous
Replies:>>70190
>>70173
Whoever it is that keeps funposting/actually schizing out about them is a halfwit if they couldn’t recognize his art.
No.70183
Anonymous
Replies:>>70184
>>70172
you tell me
No.70184
Anonymous
>>70183
so you don't know
No.70190
Anonymous
Replies:>>70191
>>70181
Yeah I just want to know if he's still around for when we get to /cov/. I had an idea I shared with him about teaming Leon and Judy.
No.70191
Anonymous
>>70190
If he’s here he’ll probably show up sooner or later.
No.70202
Anonymous
How different would history be if Fang won 2020?
No.70204
Anonymous
Replies:>>70205
>>70202
As a VBfag I wish their winning years were swapped
2020 would've been a more hype and way cleaner win for Fang Gang and Sheila winning any other year would've removed the pity vote controversy, and if it weren't for that I think she'd be considered a pretty top tier winner. Maybe not Jenny tier (personally i would put her above her in that scenario, but again bias) but still very solid.
No.70205
Anonymous
>>70202
You mean if VB wasn't cancelled?
Hard to tell but 2022 would've been drastically different. There's a chance Zorak wouldn't have won either.
>>70204
Male monarch would probably win before her. Mrs. was a midcarder, I don't think on her own she could've won.
No.70222
Anonymous
>>70205
>Mrs. was a midcarder
Wuya just won this year.
No.70223
Anonymous
>>70205
On paper Monarch is a stronger character but you also have to consider the standards for female /co/ characters are waaaaay lower than their male counterparts, hence why Monarch is stuck as a jobber and his wife already won her tournament
Which to be fair is very fitting in the context of the show
>>70222
Come to think of it half of the Ms. /co/ winners were tournament midcarders before they won; Mrs. Monarch, Betty, and Wuya all fit that description. The only other "midcard-to-winner" example I can think of in any of the tournaments is Zorak.
No.70225
Anonymous
>>70223
Batter could have easily ended up a midcarder had he not won so quickly.
No.70226
Anonymous
>>70222
Wuya had a big campaign boost. Unless Mrs. Monarch got a bunch of campaign all the sudden I don't see her winning. I don't remember her having much vocal support prior to 2020 and the cancellation boost.
>>70223
Monarch is a jobber because his wife won first. I maintain if Mr. happened before Ms. then Monarch would've won Mr. and Mrs. Monarch would be the one forever in jobber zone.
I wouldn't sat standards are way lower, just that ms. is fucky cause of controversial history. Grievous and Tom were both midcard before their win too.
No.70232
Anonymous
>>70223
Wuya wasn’t a midcarder, she was outright round 1 fodder.
No.70233
Anonymous
Replies:>>70240
>>70232
>Round 1 jobber can shoot all the way up to being queen
Midcardbros... We have a CHANCE.
No.70238
Anonymous
Replies:>>70239
>>70232
There's been a Wuyfag (maybe more than one) who has been insisting she's actually this immensely strong, clean pick even though when you compare her to previous years she definitely benefitted from the round 1 shuffling and voter dropoff.
No.70239
Anonymous
>>70238
I enjoy Wuya winning, but I'm comfident in thinking she wouldn't have made it far this year if it weren't for the voter dropoff.
No.70240
Anonymous
>>70233
Wuya was also one of the few characters to have been nominated for every Ms. /co/ tourney until her eventual crowning. These characters have a considerably higher chances of winning than any other in the tournament.
No.70242
Anonymous
Replies:>>70243
What led to Wuya's comeback anyway? She was seed 30 and a midcarder in 2018.
No.70243
Anonymous
>>70242
She managed to make it far enough that her campaigning actually started mattering, and also the number of voters getting smaller each round.
No.70244
Anonymous
Replies:>>70245
Image:170102763189.jpg(21kB, 501x277)JessicaRabbitAngry.jpg
>Jessica Rabbit still doesn't have a profile in either wiki
What gives?
No.70245
Anonymous
>>70240
This opinion might actually have quite the weight behind it. When you think about it, most winners that we currently have are from characters that have been eligible to enter the tournaments so they're either elite eight power houses or tournament veterans.
And because >>70244 brought it up, Jessica Rabbit is probably the strongest contender for the foreseeable Ms. /co/.

Not only has she been a Ms. /co/ veteran since the very first, but she was always a power house with high seeds. And most surprising thing? She has only ever lost to the Elite Eight members or the Winners.
>2018: Black Canary, 8th.
>2019: Peridot, 8th.
>2020: Kim Possible, 4th.
>2021: Hilda, 3rd.
>2022: Shirley, 2nd.
>2023: Frankie, fourth round but a former elite eight member.
Jessica Rabbit was always a strong contender for Ms. /co/ and it is high time for her to claim her title.
No.70246
Anonymous
It's genuinely impressive how, through all the thick and thin these tournaments went through. Pacifica remains a consistently solid Top 32 contestant.
No.70247
Anonymous
>>70245
Jessica feels like someone who always ends up losing because she's just too predictable, though I imagine she'll win eventually.
No.70248
Anonymous
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>>70246
She's been a regular because of two reasons:
1. Her bossy and bitchy attitude which some people crave really hard.
2. Godly off-model art (pic related).

Not to make disservice to the actual character, as she actually has really good moments in the show and has actual character development which is rare for such character archetype. But she has never, as long as I have followed these tourneys ever been backed up. In a short line here and there but she has never had a proper campaign in her name in these tournaments which is why she has never proceeded after round 3.
No.70249
Anonymous
Replies:>>70252
>>70248
She may not be Ms. /co/ but I think it's safe at this point to consider her Ms. Round 3
No.70250
Anonymous
Replies:>>70253
>>70232
>>70240
(Maybe you're referring to me) Wuya is deceptive and indeed actually super strong. Wuya was a fairly popular 2000's waifu with a solid, uncontroversial reputation from a solid, nostalgic show. She's at the lowest spited category >>66639
Plus her making making R3 before and getting qualified evry year kind of bumps her beyond lowcard status, even if she was doing lowcard performances. The right circumstances (lower vote/less riggers, fortunate early bracketing, some drawfagging) is what finally realized her potential.
>>70245
Chel and Tyr are definitely the strongest that have yet to win. Jesicca's maybe the strongest not to have made E8.
No.70251
Anonymous
Replies:>>70252
>>70246
>>70248
>round 3 SIX YEARS in a row (every single ms. tourney to date)
I don't know how insulting or commendable this should be as a fan.
Truly she is Pacifmidcard.
No.70252
Anonymous
Image:170103262246.jpg(226kB, 682x750)BigDad-Gravity-Falls-фэндомы-3557978.jpeg
>>70249
>>70251
It is basically her role.
>She isn't Ms. /co/ material but she's not round 1 jobber either.
>She is bitchy but she's not an utter psychopath.
>She's not that hot but that doesn't mean she's not cute

She is THE midcard.
No.70253
Anonymous
Replies:>>70255
Image:170103278967.jpg(30kB, 684x635)Pardon.JPG
>>70250
>Jesicca's maybe the strongest not to have made E8.
I bet my left testicle that if she enters the quarter-finals, she will win. Same thing happened with Grievous and Wuya.
No.70255
Anonymous
>>70253
If she has a campaign, sure.
No.70270
Anonymous
Image:170104063088.jpg(377kB, 531x969)Pacifica.Northwest.full.2120222.jpg
>>70248
It would be so unbelievably easy to campaign for Pacifica due to just how much off-model fanart there is for her. Even big dad has a literal gold mine of off-model fanart for Pacifica, not to mention others like Mike Inel, Banjabu, etc. who all have created swathes of off-model fanart for pacifica.

Despite that, I am not particularly mad about her being the most mid character in the tournament. While having growth as a character and being somewhat decent, she really isn't a elite eight material girl. While there have entered characters who are worth less, Pacifica is in a perfect spot.
No.70271
Anonymous
the category of "good winners" or potential good winners includes all and only characters that qualified for Ms. /co/ 2018, as they represent the oldest and core voters
No.70273
Anonymous
Replies:>>70278
>>70270
That would probably hurt her performance considering how being off-model and coom-obsessed is often seen as a negative.
No.70278
Anonymous
>>70273
It would seem negative when she proceeds beyond round 4 as she'd be seen as a simpleton without any redeemable qualities. Because anything prior to round 3 doesn't matter.
No.70283
Anonymous
>>70248
I could see her lucking her way into E8, but if I had to say then Wendy, Stan, and Bill are all more believable getting there if they had the right streak going.
No.70304
Anonymous
Image:170105803332.png(204kB, 1024x1024)Red and Blue Tiff.png
>>70270
I'll try my hand at campaigning for her next year, don't know how easy that'll be since I have my own short alpha bitch that I want to support as well though.
No.70355
Anonymous
Image:170108709683.png(3.41MB, 2000x1600)[booru.plus]+mrsmrcobooru316.png
I cast my vote for Wuya in the finals because I innately like her more as a character, but in retrospect does anyone else feel Eris had the better and more entertaining OC between to two, or at least that her supporters did a better job of highlighting both her character from the show and incorporating the crossover theme of the tournament.?
It's especially strange to me since it seemed many started bashing on her campaign near the end for having too much pin-up fanart and not enough engagement with her rivals.
No.70356
Anonymous
Replies:>>70357
>>70355
I like Eris more, but I couldn't pass up on the opportunity of getting a porn animation with her and Wuya if Wuya won.
No.70357
Anonymous
Replies:>>70358
>>70356
Yeah that's the thing, Wuya's campaign was the most "porn charged" between the two.
No.70358
Anonymous
Replies:>>70359
>>70357
Complaining about sex appeal in this tournament is always gay, you don't get characters like Chel making it that far without it.
No.70359
Anonymous
Replies:>>70360
>>70358
Less a complaint and more of an observation.
No.70360
Anonymous
>>70359
No I know that's not what you meant, but there was definitely complaining about it in the tournament itself this year.
No.70372
Anonymous
Replies:>>70373
>>70355
I don't actually vote on OC. My main issue with Eris is she's comparatively shallow and was riding largely on meta memes.
No.70373
Anonymous
Replies:>>70374
>>70372
I don’t necessarily disagree with your first point, but saying she was riding on meta is an overstatement. Eris had a lot of effort put into her campaign and OC beyond "LOL let’s make the goddess of chaos win the most chaotic tournament".
No.70374
Anonymous
Replies:>>70375
>>70373
Chaos meming was definitely a fulcrum of her campaign. I don't much care for it especially seeing we've already had a ms. winner that represents actual non-meme chaos.
No.70375
Anonymous
>>70374
>character is based, named and designed after the Greek goddess of chaos
>anon is outraged at the fact this aspect of the character is brought up during the tournament
lol
No.70377
Anonymous
Replies:>>70380
>>70375
Yeah, I really don't know what people expect, of course Chaosposting is gonna be a big thing for her.
No.70380
Anonymous
Replies:>>70382
>>70375
>>70377
>purposely missing the point
It's how that aspect banked and memed on meta. There isn't REALLY anything to her beyond that and she's a recognizable coom figure from the prime 2000's era.
No.70382
Anonymous
>>70380
I disagree. I think even in her fanart made during the latest Ms. /co/ her fans managed to make her presence fun for what at the end of the day is just a side villain.
No.70387
Anonymous
Image:170112261874.png(12kB, 800x500)....png
Anyone raising a fuss about characters lacking depth in the context of the female tournaments ESPECIALLY in Ms. /co/ is either a dimwit or a dishonest asshole who should be dismissed.
Here's the thing: the prime considerations the average Ms. /co/ voter is concerned with are two, physical attractiveness and the semblance of a nice personality HAVING A PLEASANT PERSONALITY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING WELL-WRITTEN. If these tournaments aimed to identify what the board perceives as the best written and most fleshed out characters the medium can offer, comics would have a bigger presence.

Also, fags who debate over this have proven themselves to be talking out of their ass and just going off their own preconceived notions nine out of ten times.
No.70392
Anonymous
>>70387
In other words the vast majority of characters that make it past Round 2 shouldn't be written off and have actual merit as competitors, yeah I can agree with that.
No.70397
Anonymous
Replies:>>70482
>>70387
>physical attractiveness and the semblance of a nice personality
This is as much false as the other standard. Certainly not the most conventionally attractive or waifuish characters get through or win. The biggest factor has and always will be media association. If they came from media, or is associated in some way with demographic preference and has a nostalgic and recognizable quality in some way. THEN the coom and personality start to have an influence. Comics fall on the wayside cause they're not the dominant medium of the board and are more popular as /tv/ nowadays anyways. But you're right in that ms. is generally more shallow than any other tourney, including QoV. Ms. is the worst tourney and everyone knows this.
That being said there's nothing wrong with having actual character as a personal standard. It should be encouraged. Getting butthurt about that of all voting factors is stupid.
No.70404
Anonymous
Replies:>>70448
IMO the ideal voting scale of importance should be
>character (how much you like them as a character; can mean just being likeable to having depth and story importance)
>board (board relevancy and how 'fitting' they would be as a champ for the board)
>campaign (OC, support, fan passion and the like)
>media source (the source material being good and worthy; a good character from bad source is fine, the reverse is not)
>looks (coom/fetish power, design coolness and whatever)
Tourney meta shouldn't factor at all but it inevitably will.
No.70448
Anonymous
Replies:>>70457
>>70404
>>board (board relevancy and how 'fitting' they would be as a champ for the board)
this is fucking gay for several reasons
1. it's an arbitrary metric that says nothing about the characters themselves
2. it's a subjective metric fit only for pissing contests over what is and isn't "board culture"
3. it encourages stagnation and voting for the same characters every year, just because
No.70457
Anonymous
Replies:>>70476
>>70448
>do they get talked about a lot
>are they important to the medium of the board
>do they have a legacy on the board itself and with the general userbase
It's honestly less arbitrary than the other metrics. The only real gripe I see against it is "stagnation", but it's still a board representative tourney, not just a meta general. Board relevancy kind of goes hand in hand with how liked he character is but I'm sure it will piss many tourney autists off cause it's basically the 'silent majority' standard. Personally if I'm even on the characters i'd go for the fitting winner over a straight 'underdog' that will look weak in retrospect (i.e. Recette).
No.70476
Anonymous
Replies:>>70480
>>70457
I agree with you on that. At the end of the day, these tournaments are about the board's favorite characters. OC and campaigning is great, but it shouldn't be more important than the quality of the characters and how well they're liked.
No.70480
Anonymous
Replies:>>70525
>>70476
OC and campaigns to me is basically the tie-breaker factor. Maybe if it's amazing it'll tip things for a slightly less preferred character. They add the flavor and vocal engagement of the tourneys but I never agreed that they were the sole and main point, or with the increasingly common preference for voting based primarily who's vocal. This seems to be a thing for anon's that autistically engage with the threads, and a result of tourneys turning into their own metabox.
Hex Maniac in QoV this year was a good example. Fantastic workrate from the drawanon, but at the end of the day Hex is not a character that should be going over most of the girls, certainly not champion material at all.
No.70482
Anonymous
Replies:>>70508
>>70397
>This is as much false as the other standard. Certainly not the most conventionally attractive or waifuish characters get through or win
Nah, I disagree, although I see your point. Despite having an unorthodox champion elite, once you narrow it down the majority of the Ms. /co/ elite are popular waifu choices who get threads on a very consistent basis. This year really reinforced this idea.
But that’s beyond my original point, which was about expressing how female "waifu" tournaments standards are typically bound to be more banal than the male ones personally I believe Ko/v/ actually manages to have worse taste than Qo/v/, but that’s another can of worms.
>If they came from media, or is associated in some way with demographic preference and has a nostalgic and recognizable quality in some way.
This is due to the main voting demographic of the tournaments consisting of millennials. It’s the characters they recognize and grew up with.
>That being said there's nothing wrong with having actual character as a personal standard. It should be encouraged.
Don’t think for a moment I disagree with you on this. I only find it frustrating when people who very clearly have no idea what they are talking about are more often than not the first to start throwing around rants a la "WOW I THINK x IS A SHIT CHARACTER" with nothing to back them up, especially when fully aware they are bringing down the quality of the threads and disrupting active campaigns.

Hell, it’s because Ms. /co/ has the most shallow taste out of all tournaments, that I think it's especially ridiculous when someone goes out of their way to make a big stink over the shallowness of a contestant in particular. Fact of the matter is most voters simply don’t and will not operate under those standards.
No.70492
Anonymous
What are the odds that Blu's campaign for Maiden this year actually gets her farther next year?
No.70508
Anonymous
>>70482
>popular waifu choices who get threads on a very consistent basis.
From a particular demographic. My point is that being attractive and waifu-baity isn't actually the foremost factor.
But anyways I'm not changing my own standards, regardless what others are voting for. There's waaaay more retarded shit people spite over than being a good or bad character, doesn't mean you should follow. This started with Eris and I still think she's underwhelming as a character compared to Wuya and really the rest of the E8.
No.70517
Anonymous
>Eris shouldn't win because Spinel already did
bruh
No.70518
Anonymous
>>70517
>reading comprehension
No.70519
Anonymous
Replies:>>70520
>>70517
This anon clearly doesn't want her to win because he considers her a poor character. I at least wouldn't mind Eris winning eventually, most Ms. /co/ contenders are about on the same level save for perhaps a few outlliers in my eyes.
No.70520
Anonymous
Replies:>>70521
>>70519
What is and isn't a good character is completely subjective to begin with.
No.70521
Anonymous
>>70520
The evident issue is how much a character they are. Eris is Jucika tier desu.
No.70523
Anonymous
Replies:>>70524
>>70492
I think she's still to obscure qualify.
Also I just realized looking at the wiki EVE made E8 twice and just barely lost getting into E8 in 2022. Yet compared to other characters pulling off the same thing she gets pretty much no discussion or speculation. Probably the most under-the-radar powerhouse.
No.70524
Anonymous
>>70523
There's usually at least one in tournaments. EVE had a pretty straightforward bracket this year, so I felt from the start that she was probably coming back.

>>70492
She'll get more votes next time, but just can't see her qualifying. I feel that Barred (and Losers for Mr. /co/) have better shots at giving small but meaningful boosts in these, although both barred winners on /co/ this year aren't being allowed in for obvious reasons.
No.70525
Anonymous
>>70480
Yeah, for me there's two factors here. Are people actually hyped around the character, and are people doing fun stuff with the character? The former is more effective on me simply because it keeps momentum going and rewards passionate supporters. Latter can affect close matches, but in general it's not going to sway my preferences that hard outside maybe R5 and beyond. (Even in that case, I've certainly voted for the quieter pick a good amount of times.)
No.70558
Anonymous
I assure you there was a lot more to Eris's character and campaign than just CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS
No.70571
Anonymous
>>70558
We know.
No.70601
Anonymous
>>70558
We know, it’s just that one anon has been very hell-bent on insisting the contrary. Yeah, Eris is pretty two dimensional, but so are most of the female front-runners and champions. Wuya isn’t particularly complex either and the aspect of her character most people who watched her show remember best was her dynamic with Jack as a ghost, and you can see how much part any of that took in her campaign this year.

Which goes back to my original point about how these debates are typically started by anons who know nothing about writing let alone the source material they are criticizing and rarely bring up any good points. It’s how we end up with retarded, non-sensical posts like "The Iron Giant is Fang-tier" "Marvin is a non-character" "AM is a gary stu " "Amaterasu is Reddit chungus", etcetera.
The only instances I can think of where valid criticism was levied against a character and it didn’t come from a place of butthurt or ignorance were Hex Maniac and Black Hat.
No.70623
Anonymous
>>70601
Hex Maniac was absolutely from a place of butthurt
No.70628
Anonymous
>>70623
Was it? Most common criticism was simply people stating they felt she was a non-character or lacked real depth, with no hint of butthurt in any form. When pressed to go further, people correctly pointed out how she mainly got popular from fan art and a couple lucky moments in XY. People barely brought up Masters and didn't even touch on the NPC design coming back in Hoenn. I'm sure you could find some butthurt if you actually bothered to dig through every thread the past two years, but a lot of criticism (especially this year) felt pretty rational.
No.70630
Anonymous
>>70623
Not really? I don’t think anons pointing out Hex is effectively a non-character in the games and that her campaigner has to project a personality onto her to make her interesting came from a place of spite, especially considering lot of these same anons clarified they admired the effort put into her and enjoyed her OC on its own.
No.70631
Anonymous
There's also the matter that the Pokémon criticism was also directed at the girls qualifying from the franchise in general, not just Hex. This was a deal since the start of both 2022 and 2023, before Hex started popping heads.
No.70642
Anonymous
>>70558
Was there? What else basically was there to the campaign, other than coom?
>>70601
Eris is flatter and has less of a role than any of the other E8. She's just an occasional joke side villain caricature that does nothing of consequence (and yes I'm aware grim is an episodic comedy show). She can be encapsulated in a short comic strip. Previous winners and general E8 at least have a central role, some more relative screentime, and some other angle or depths. The main factor behind her push is the demographic areas she landed in (she is directly in the sweet spot, same as Wuya being sexy widely liked childhood 2000's toons) and mostly meme campaigning boosted on being semi-meta. She's simply uncompelling as a winner to me. Like I said ms. /co/ being a more vapid tourney to others doesn't change my thoughts.
And nobody says that shit like "Amaterasu is Reddit chungus" seriously. You're getting b8ed.
No.70652
Anonymous
Replies:>>70659
>>70642
>And nobody says that shit like "Amaterasu is Reddit chungus" seriously. You're getting b8ed.
You act like labeling all attempts at smearing and false flagging as trolling automatically makes them irrelevant. Yes of course they are dishonest trolls most of the time, DUH. Doesn’t mean they aren't a big factor at bringing down the quality of the tournament, especially when people are terrible at detecting b8.
Anyway, if you were paying attention to the threads, what happened to Amaterasu this year went beyond a single troll trying to force a meme. But that’s another topic that belongs in the /v/ thread.
No.70659
Anonymous
>>70652
That's on the anon's for taking the b8. /v/ is especially retarded about it. The ammy reddit shit was just pinky/culturefag and it was pointed out dozens of times but people still bite.
No.70670
Anonymous
Image:170128969077.png(3.60MB, 1900x1600)[booru.plus]+mrsmrcobooru300.png
>>70642
>Was there? What else basically was there to the campaign, other than coom?
I mean this whole conversation started because I said I liked Eris' campaign more than Wuya's despite having a preference for the latter. There definitely was more to it other than coom and CHAOS ritualposting.
No.70673
Anonymous
>tfw you realize Spinel was the ms. winner with the most character-depth
No.70841
Anonymous
Replies:>>70842
>>70659
I think both boards are terrible at taking bait it just depends what the bait is. For example /v/ loses their shit over reddit accusations, but /co/ kept seething over the troll doing the Oswald AI falseflags whereas in /v/ some guy AI falseflagged Hex Maniac for like one round, then he stopped after he got ignored. /co/ also not only takes schizo bait but will go out of their way to fill entire threads obsessing over x schizo whereas /v/ largely doesn't care if they're even aware of the existence of a thread personality/schizo to begin with.
No.70842
Anonymous
Replies:>>70904
>>70841
/co/ is smart enough to identify schizos but too obsessed to let go and outright ignore them.
No.70867
Anonymous
I still want to know if that one Simon guy was falseflagging due to the new show or had some genuine obsession.
No.70904
Anonymous
Replies:>>70919
>>70842
/v/ is dimwit (takes b8 straight up), /co/is midwit (realizes b8 but doesn't know how to best handle it). Hence the giant infamous schizo list /co/ has.
No.70919
Anonymous
Replies:>>70922
>>70904
to be fair the guy who keeps posting that list is himself an attentionfagging schizo and parts of it are fabricated
i think the reason /co/ has so many recognizable autismos is because they can't help but give themselves away every time.
No.70922
Anonymous
>>70919
I think that's also do with /co/ having a different way of trolling. /co/'s a little more laid-back and introspective of things compared to the fast-past funpost central of /v/. Instead of old-fashion trolling /co/ often likes to build up schizo persona's, something the troll purposely does over time and the people who come to hate them feed into.
This differing nature of the boards also reflects in tourney meta I think. There's way more meta and rulefag arguments from /co/ over the years, where /v/ just kind of jumps into things (like the overwhelming yes King gave to loser's bracket and the whitelist stuff). Again, a recognition but flawed response to things vs. just reacting.
No.70924
Anonymous
Replies:>>72132
>>70659
>pinky/culturefag
steven itoddler sounds better given how he keeps spamming those drawing and also JEWniverse in the /v/ threads. We also had a good laugh when everyone joined forces to mock him to death.
No.71233
Anonymous
>>70517
Garland*
No.72132
Anonymous
>>70924
Don't think that's the same guy. itoddler is an IC imitator.
No.72155
Anonymous
Pinky was ranting about JPEG Dog through the tournament, I’m not sure he has a vendetta against Amaterasu. The anon who keeps spamming the muzzle drawings is either the IC imitator, the drawfag who made them, or some other fag I’m not aware about.
No.72197
Anonymous
Replies:>>72205
>>70387
>HAVING A PLEASANT PERSONALITY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING WELL-WRITTEN.
If characterization makes you like a character, why wouldn't it be good writing?
No.72205
Anonymous
>>72197
Maybe I didn't make myself clear - what I meant to say is that a character having only superficially likeable traits as part of their personality doesn't equal good writing. For example, Reimu and Midna are often described as "too bitchy", but I actually think they are the best Queen champions in terms of characterization.
No.72237
Anonymous
Replies:>>72467
Image:170164347519.jpg(49kB, 399x648)smugsasha.jpg
>>72205
>bitchy isn't likable
Many would disagree.
No.72294
Anonymous
Replies:>>72467
Image:170165066025.jpg(58kB, 673x781)Smugs in goth.jpg
>>72205
That's funny, I can think of a few bitchy girls that are liked because they're bitchy, pic very much related.
No.72444
Anonymous
It's interesting how mainstays of early tournaments such as Candace, Mabel and Star have missed out in recent years (has the hostility toward Amphibia and Owl House been unwittingly extended toward the older Disney shows?)
No.72448
Anonymous
>>72444
Pacifica keeps getting in so I doubt that, it's more likely that people just don't like Mabel and Star.
No.72451
Anonymous
Replies:>>72486
>>72444
Mabel was never that well liked after the GF ended. Star characters in general have waned a lot, probably cause their ending was so notoriously shitty and left a bad legacy. Wendy and Pacifica are still popular.
The hostility about frog and owl I think is largelly cause it came later when a bad reputation formed for calartsy lore from the Flapjack clique.
No.72467
Anonymous
>>72237
>>72294
I never said these characters aren’t popular or cannot be likeable, not at all. But because the female tourneys are primarily waifu competitions, characters with easy-going and mellower personalities have less potential to lead to controversy in general.
No.72486
Anonymous
>>72451
It's now hard to believe Anne made it to round 3 in her first two years. The massive falseflag against Amphibia in '22 (plus a close association with the reviled Owl House) have pretty much tanked the show's chances in future tourneys.
No.72488
Anonymous
Replies:>>72489
>>72486
I don't think it was just the falseflag, I think the finale permanently damaged the show's rep in /co/ competitions. I haven't been in an Amphibia thread in ages but for a whole year after it ended the threads were awful to be in. Depending on what the graphic novel is about Anne might be able to regain some footing but she's never going to win.
No.72489
Anonymous
>>72486
She's one of the most screwed characters. Consistently popular and always gets hype and good OC but gets gutted.
>>72488
The finale wasn't that bad. Opinions are split but it's not universally hated like Star vs. was. It's because of board tribal opposition to recent girl noodle lore. It wouldn't matter how good the show actually finished (OH actually had the best finale of all the nu-DTVA desu).
And i shit you not, frog threads tanking is mostly the work of like one mega schizo.
No.72545
Anonymous
Replies:>>75155
>>72486
Anne was very heavy FOTM with some crazy (often pedo) supporters.
Amphibia had a rabid fanbase but also a rabid hatedom so both cancelling out made sense, but the thing is some of those viewers move on but the haters still are going to hate it
No.73548
Anonymous
If Eggman wins the /v/ tournament can he be retired from Mr /co/ as well? It will lead to a lot of bullshit next year if people try to make him win twice
No.73549
Anonymous
>>73548
I second this.
No.73579
Anonymous
>>73548
Eh, I doubt he'd get a serious push. If anything, I expect him to do WORSE as a result.
No.73827
Anonymous
I'm fine with how King turned out, but now I want to get behind Daffy next year. Feel he's the other best shot at being a runner-up comeback, and he was always among my favorite contestants anyways.
No.73829
Anonymous
Replies:>>75908
>>73827
>a runner-up comeback
batman will laugh at you.
No.73830
Anonymous
>>73827
He has been cursed as a finalist never ever and even Donald has a better shot now
No.73862
Anonymous
What would be the /co/ equivalent of a Grimm win (pure "/co/-core")?
No.73867
Anonymous
>>73862
Definitely not a comic character.
No.73869
Anonymous
>>73862
A Homestuck character.
No.74102
Anonymous
Replies:>>74124
>>65591
>>65592
I know who they were
No.74124
Anonymous
>>74102
>replying to a months old post
>one that had a very slanted view on a very shitty argument
Nigga what the fuck are you doing.
No.74369
Anonymous
Mr. /co/lympus? Still the best tournament.
No.74384
Anonymous
Replies:>>74397
>>74369
...In my headcannon.
No.74397
Anonymous
Replies:>>74425
>>74384
>IESLB
Mr. /co/lympus is the best tournament.
No.74402
Anonymous
Image:170234671223.jpg(38kB, 500x488)d4b6ce4330c0f64d5f85a2404520271a.jpg
>>74369
Yeah, I guess...
No.74415
Anonymous
Image:170234705211.jpg(25kB, 431x379)think.JPG
>>74369
Literally the thread was about to archive when the news hit...
No.74425
Anonymous
Replies:>>74441
>>74397
...In my headcanon.
No.74441
Anonymous
Replies:>>74492
>>74425
Yes, ko/v/ is the better tournament only in YOUR headcanon.
No.74492
Anonymous
Replies:>>74499
>>74441
...and also in canon.
No.74499
Anonymous
>>74492
...Which is what you say in your headcanon.
No.74830
Anonymous
Replies:>>75051
>>73862
I can't think of anything that is as completely exclusive to /co/ as Grimm is to /v/ while still not being an OC ie Golden Girl. The closest ones I can think I guess would be characters who are irrelevant pretty much everywhere except /co/ where they are known because of memes, like Mung Daal or something.
Really I think it's almost impossible to beat Grimm in the board-core department because he literally has more fanart from /v/ than anywhere else, the 4chan tournaments wiki is the only place that actually covers him, Black Souls itself is extremely obscure among everyone except /v/irgins and some basement dwellers in Japan, etc.
No.75020
Anonymous
>>73862
Dr. Domino
No.75051
Anonymous
>>74830
The only thing even approximately like a Black Souls equivalent in /co/ would ironically be Homestuck as the other anon said.
It is absolutely mind-boggling as a series and basically has vanished from the mainstream media despite being once an internet giant and is only discussed on /aco/.
However, there wouldn't really be any close analogues to Grimm as a character, as Grimm outside and inside the tournaments has a very different dynamic.

Within the tournaments themselves, Grimm only close analogue within /co/ would the Plunderers as they are an alliance like the Schizos but much smaller. Silver has actually really good analogue with AM which leaves Grimm closest analogue with either Zorak or Ruber.
No.75150
Anonymous
I never wanna hear /v/tards act all high and mighty ever again
No.75155
Anonymous
>>72545
Anne still got a lot of support last ms. /co/. She got a bad matchup against Azula R1 but only narrowly lost. She's one of those characters that needs a few rounds of traction. Samurai Anne anon and the fight animator pull out great work.
No.75186
Anonymous
Replies:>>75666
>>75051
Ruber in his own right would be an interesting winner and arguably /co/ core because of his film's infamy and most wanting to forget about it besides one of its songs. Quest for Camelot has been discussed as a film that negatively impacted the animated film industry with its flop causing Warner Bros. to lose faith in animated films for a long time, but Ruber himself became beloved on the board. /co/ sings ruberyoutube thumb
No.75258
Anonymous
>>75150
I knew they were lower int when they started voting on all those dumb shit additions and stipulations with no debate.
No.75270
Anonymous
>>75150
/v/ > /co/
No.75331
Anonymous
>>75270
...in my headcanon.
No.75336
Anonymous
>>75270
Voter turn out and OC Quality?
Sure

Overall Intelligence?
Doubtful.
No.75338
Anonymous
>>75336
OC quantity*
No.75341
Anonymous
>>75336
>when Sam made /v/ actually realize and think about what meta gaming was and /v lost their minds
No.75469
Anonymous
Replies:>>75526
>>75341
And /v/ STILL doesn’t understand what metagaming/strategic voting is
No.75471
Anonymous
Replies:>>75476
/v/ vs /co/ this and that, what I really want to know is who had the hotter waifu this year?
Sure Wuya has the hips of a queen, but can she compete with Curly's fat robo-tits?
No.75476
Anonymous
Replies:>>75479
>>75471
Curly canonically doesn't really have fat tits. Wuya's meant to be sultry and is pretty much the most (conventional) coom winner ms. /co/ has had.
No.75479
Anonymous
Image:170246428554.png(1.88MB, 1149x1749)Dr_Girlfriend_Panorama.png
>>75476
>pretty much the most (conventional) coom winner ms. /co/ has had.
Mmm, close
No.75481
Anonymous
Replies:>>75528
>>75479
man voice
No.75483
Anonymous
/v/ vs /co/ this and that, what I really want to know is who had the hotter husbando this year?
Sure Skeletor has the body of a chad, but can he compete with Grimm's phat armor?
No.75484
Anonymous
Image:170246645955.jpg(905kB, 1808x3214)Antón Castillo.jpg
>>75483
This is /v/'s husbando this year.
No.75489
Anonymous
Replies:>>75496
Image:170247213686.jpg(116kB, 2048x2048)Spoiler image
>>75483
Grimm has absolutely nothing good going for him. The fact you implied otherwise just proves that all you and him are good for is testing out nooses.
No.75496
Anonymous
No.75526
Anonymous
>>75150
>>75270
>>75336
>>75341
>>75469
the chief difference between /co/ and /v/ is that /co/ isn't really dumb, just extremely autistic. /v/ is actually dumb.
No.75528
Anonymous
>>75479
>>75481
I think Monarch's hotter than Wuya and the voice is a positive. Probably because well before the end of the show Publick actually somehow managed to make her sound like a woman with a rough voice instead of a woman with a man's voice.
No.75666
Anonymous
>>74369
>2019
Mr. > King > Queen > Ms.
>2020
King > Ms. > Mr. > Queen
>2021
King > Mr. > Queen > Ms.
>2022
Mr. > Queen > King > Ms.
>2023
King > Mr. > Queen > Ms.

I wasn't here for 2018. I heavily disliked how roleplay heavy Mr. 2020 was but I understand tastes will vary. Even though I put Ms. 2023 at the bottom I still think it was a good tourney and the best Ms. /co/ since 2020. I just think all the tournaments this year were really good and the others edged it out. I only considered the main bracket when ranking Queen 2023 since everyone treated loser's and grand finals like a joke and all the posts were either funposts or Curly fans already drawing victory art.

>>75051
>>75186
I think Ruber is the closest /co/ comparison to Grimm yeah. Quest for Camelot isn't nearly as niche as Black Souls, but the character himself has a notoriety that really on applies to /co/ and his tournament narratives. I'd also say Ongezellig as another close substitute.
No.75686
Anonymous
Image:170252783565.png(2.40MB, 1911x1072)voiaup.png
>Next year we will have Daffy, Tyr'ahnee and Marvin together
Just one win from any of these and I can die happy.
No.75908
Anonymous
Replies:>>75910
>>73829
Looks like Batman can't laugh against equines.
No.75910
Anonymous
Replies:>>75914
>>75908
non-canon
No.75914
Anonymous
>>75910
>If only if it were Optimus Prime rather than Batman.
No.76002
Anonymous
Replies:>>76003
https://boards.4channel.org/co/thread/141184830
No.76003
Anonymous
>>76002
That got deleted quickly
No.76004
Anonymous
>>76003
Huh? It’s still up.
No.76005
Anonymous
Replies:>>76062
Image:170266769864.jpg(14kB, 366x332)wtf.jpg
>>76004
>Checks again
>Deleted
>Check again
>Deleted
>Refresh
>Threads there
No.76062
Anonymous
>>76003
>>76004
>>76005
Yeah I've been though this numerous times
Plus4 does this weird thing where it also highlights this blank key whenever you right click something. Hope the mods someday fix this
No.76073
Anonymous
You think they'll let Option 1 into the grandfather list next year
No.76074
Anonymous
>>76073
They better. Best girl deserves better.
No.76083
Anonymous
Replies:>>76105
>>76073
Not how /co/ grandfather works
It's you qualified (top 128) of any /co/ tournament, not that you were nominated for anything or "qualified" or won a side meme tournament
No.76084
Anonymous
Does anyone remember that time during the Mr. /co/ 2022 quarters/semifinals when Numbnuts came out of nowhere, revealed he had previously contacted NSA via Gmail as someone vetting for a host position under a different name, and posted some very incriminatory screenshots where NSA said some shit about other contestants being rigged and directly manipulating some of the results? Was that just completely memoryholed?
No.76085
Anonymous
>>76084
I'd take anything that numnuts says with a lot of salt.
No.76102
Anonymous
>Shirley
>Chel
>Nicole
>Brisby
>Tyr'ahnee
>Nani
>ENA

>Carl
>Courage
>Daffy
>Grim
>Squidward
>Max
>Xavier

Last year’s top 8 for Ms. and Mr. /co/. Post your predictions on who will be returning, who will win etc.
No.76103
Anonymous
>>76084
those emails were fake as shit
No.76105
Anonymous
>>76083
>Not how /co/ grandfather works
Don't care that's how it works in my headcannon
No.76106
Anonymous
>>76102
I would bet on Courage or Carl. I think Daffy will remain as /co/'s Eggman
No.76107
Anonymous
Replies:>>76128
>>76102
>Shirley
SHIT and FINISHED, most likely will become Ms. /co/'s Captain America and never qualify again
>Chel
Could actually win if anyone decides to support her, realistically will silently dominate every match until the E8 where she loses to the winner
>Nicole
Probably going to get spitevoted out around round 3
>Brisby
She'll have supporters but will most likely not do well, as much as I would like a redemption arc for her
>Tyr'ahnee
Prime contender to break the runner-up curse
>Nani
Probably not, she's a fine character but her last run was kind of a fluke born of bracket luck
>ENA
Her game will most likely be out by then so she should have a popularity boost from that, I see her being a fan favorite like last year with a good shot at E8. Might be biased though because I am an ENAfag

>Carl
Another top contender to break the runner-up curse
>Courage
If he actually gets to the finals I think he could very well win, otherwise probably going to murder anyone who gets in his way until losing in the semi-finals
>Daffy
>Grim
Both feel like they're going to be stuck in E8 limbo
>Squidward
>Max
>Xavier
Probably not making it back in E8 unless they get an easy bracket + a good campaign
No.76109
Anonymous
Replies:>>76128
>>76102
>Shirley
Lol. Lmao even.
>Chel
Will most likely be a returning Elite Eight member.
>Nicole
Very unlikely to advance due to the drama made in 2022.
>Brisby
Has better chances because she is beloved but has a stained reputation.
>Tyr'ahnee
The most likely contender to make it into semi-finals and possibly be the crowned individual.
>Nani
Doubt she'll make it as good as she did in 2022.
>ENA
Eh... I know it'll be vocal pick but I don't know about making into Elite Eight.

>Carl
Has actual good chances to make it in again, but it is a 50/50.
>Courage
Will always be a strong pick within /co/.
>Daffy
Also a strong and vocal pick, will mostly likely make it to elite eight.
>Grim
As always, a silent as fuck pick that will somehow make it to the elite eight.
>Squidward
Doubt.
>Max
Also doubt.
>Xavier
Can see him go elite if enough campaigning goes through and he doesn't go against any powerhouse.
No.76128
Anonymous
Replies:>>76203
>>76102
>>76107
>>76109
I think Shirley can recovery if Courage campaigns for her.
No.76161
Anonymous
>>76102
All will return to the bracket besides Shirley and maybe Brisby
>Elite 8 for Ms /co/
Chel is the only one who will return, Tyr'ahnee would usually have a shot but the Perifag has an obsessive rage over her due to beating his worthless fag gem and will try spite voting her out. Others are far too niche to make it a second time due to the rig drama making a weaker Elite 8 then usual
>Elite 8 for Mr /co/
Far stronger lineup due to no rig controversy so far more are likely to make it. Courage, Daffy and Grim would be the most obvious hopefuls since they are always up there. Realistically any of them could, think those three will and that's it. Least likely is Max and Xavier but they possibly could too
No.76203
Anonymous
Replies:>>76206
>>76128
My man, there’s several other characters that are worth a shit to campaign for.
Shirley is not worth the sweat and effort to campaign, especially her fucked up reputation.
No.76206
Anonymous
Replies:>>76209
>>76203
So many characters are not worth campaigning for tbh. Ones that make me go "Why even bother?". Shirley definitely fits that for next year.
No.76209
Anonymous
Replies:>>76239
>>76206
She's genuinely not an impactful character in any meaninful way. She is a fun side-character but that's it, we had couragefags actually have a hard time remembering Shirley as a character.
No.76239
Anonymous
>>76209
Humorously enough she ended up becoming somewhat notable from this tournament alone, before then she was quite obscure
No.76243
Anonymous
Replies:>>76248
Fang is my favorite winner because I like her the most, she’s a cool dinosaur
No.76248
Anonymous
Replies:>>76251
>>76243
She's cool but honestly I only hate how she's just FOTM because her show was running at the same time. I'm not on itoddler or IC's side though
No.76251
Anonymous
>>76248
I agree also she's ugly.
No.76526
Anonymous
Replies:>>76527
I will save this thread. Battler
No.76527
Anonymous
Replies:>>76528
>>76526
Who's the Battler of Mr. /co/?
No.76528
Anonymous
>>76527
Some say there is none. Some compare him to the Monarch.
No.76533
Anonymous
I will save this thread. Recette
No.76534
Anonymous
>>76533
You killed the thread.
No.76535
Anonymous
>>76533
Who's the Recette of Ms. /co/?
No.76536
Anonymous
Replies:>>76548
>>76535
I don't follow the /v/ tournaments much but I don't think we really have a Recette. Maybe Spinel or Betty Boop.
No.76537
Anonymous
Replies:>>76538
>>76535
Which Ms. /co/ do we bully the most?
No.76538
Anonymous
>>76537
Spinel, but it's countered by her bullying us back.
No.76542
Anonymous
>>76535
Jucika if she ever won.
No.76548
Anonymous
Image:170302085898.jpg(37kB, 932x500)5j92j9.jpg
>>76535
It really depends.
Like, what are we basing off of?

Disliked? Probably Fang as people still to this day won't shut the fuck about her and despite being a worthy winner, they just flock around someones opinion to be a contrarian. Difference however being that Fang was 100% deserving of the win and she was powerhouse unlike Recette.

Undeserved victory? Yeah, Spinel fucking obviously but there is a very massive difference. Spinel was rigged to hell and back, while Recette was the lolicon magnet that the mentally unwell just decided to support instead of Mado.
>>76536
>Betty Boop
While the year was full of spite, the tourney was literally saved at the last minute because one the most iconic of the legacy characters won. The only spite Betty gets is from Hildafags and we saw how well they did in this year.
No.76577
Anonymous
Replies:>>76578
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After being reminded of Hellboy by this post >>76374 It actually reignited my love for Hellboy. I really wanna support this character the following Mr. /co/ because he's unironically the closest comic rep to be able to enter the Elite Eight.
No.76578
Anonymous
Image:170302664500.jpg(181kB, 577x876)HellboyCorben.jpg
>>76577
As much as I love for that to happen, you know how the board feels about comic characters. This year especially was rough.
No.76579
Anonymous
>>76535
I do not like Betty Boop partially because she's the Recette of Mrs /co/: She's a niche winner with almost no presence on the board whose reputation is carried entirely by her legacy as being an older character.
No.76580
Anonymous
Replies:>>76596
>>76579
Betty’s way more legendary in her medium than Recette. She’s arguably the most iconic female toon ever. Johanna winning would’ve actually made a /co/ Recette.
No.76581
Anonymous
Replies:>>76582
>>76579
Betty Boop is a massive icon that is considered one of the first mainstream waifus and was possibly the best choice of her elite eight. Recette is an actually niche character that was possibly the worst choice of her elite eight.
No.76582
Anonymous
Replies:>>76585
>>76581
>Recette is an actually niche character that was possibly the worst choice of her elite eight.
Shantae would have felt pretty underwhelming, which is a good point to remind that she was the one that went against Recette in quarterfinals.
No.76585
Anonymous
Replies:>>76683
>>76582
Shantae would have been slightly better with more history and less backlash.
No.76596
Anonymous
Replies:>>76600
Image:170303606955.jpg(33kB, 400x400)1640488882101.jpg
>>76580
I like Recette as a winner and I also think Johanna would've fucking sucked
Maybe because Recettear is a good fun game with a cute charming protagonist whereas Hilda is fucking boring and so are its characters, no I don't care that it's "comfy", if I wanted to watch an actually good comfy show I would watch Over the Garden Wall.
Speaking of, I'm surprised OTGW hasn't had more success, it's one of the only post-2010 shows that /co/ can unanimously agree is good
No.76600
Anonymous
>>76596
Recettear at least represents a certain era of video games that were popular on /v/. I've said in the past that Recette is strange for a year three winner, but she's also not entirely unjustified despite her not being my own top pick from 2021. Johanna mainly just had MILF representation behind her if we're talking overall legacy. Wouldn't have even been the first OR last new cartoon winner in Ms. /co/ due to Spinel and Fang.
No.76635
Anonymous
>>76102
Chel and Tyr are the strongest and most likely to make E8 again. Brisby can probably squeak (heh) back in with a good campaign and thanks to how much sympathy she has. Nicole and Nani are unlikely to do as well again. No clue for ENA, I'm completely out of the loop on just how popular she actually is. Shirley is fucked, if she even ends up qualifying.
No.76644
Anonymous
Replies:>>76653
>>76102
Think I went thoroughly over these in a previous thread, but can go over them again while others are here.

>Shirley
Even without the rigging, she already felt like an one-hit wonder.
>Chel
She's silent yet deadly. Even if she doesn't get much campaigning as per usual, I feel the drama last year may also help her get through unless she hits a serious challenge. Not sure she'd actually win, but you can't undersell her with such a formidable track record.
>Nicole
She lasted surprisingly long last year, and honestly her track record before that is actually somewhat decent. (She's never lost before R3 thus far.) I also feel most people really do care mainly about Shirley in terms of the 2022 fur incident. I agree that she's more likely than not to miss an Elite Eight return, but I also feel she's not going out that fast barring poor luck. Can't see her outright winning, let alone next year. Her main trump card is if the movie dropped and gave her huge momentum.
>Brisby
This is a hard one to predict. I do feel her sympathy will outweight any bad blood bar anyone pulling falseflags, but she's also a more out of the way pick. I could see her ending up ANYWHERE next year. She could end up in around the same place with people pushing for her to get a more fair elite run, she could end up getting close before having a respectable bow out, she could end up dying at the start from an instant powerhouse match-up similar to Mado in Queen this year, she could reach finals, or she could simply have a surprise defeat from more silent voters. My gut tells me she'll do at least alright, but I can't call her anything else but a wild card.
>Tyr'ahnee
People are fired up after Eggman, and Ms. /co/ will be the first major tournament coming off his loss. Even without that, Tyr'ahnee is a consistent powerhouse and board favorite. She should have a safe time prior to Elite Eight unless she hits a full-force campaign or another powerhouse. (Hell, even Chel would be a fight.) A win is not out of the question.
>Nani
People enjoyed Nani being in the Elite Eight and some mourned her loss to Shirley. She would have still been clapped by Chel most likely. Nani feels like the definition of liked, but unremarkable. Unless she gets a direct push, I feel she'll remain an one-off.
>ENA
She got new content just recently and Dream BBQ could very well hit in time to give her a big boost. She's definitely suspect to potential falseflagging looking at what happened in QF last time, but otherwise it really comes down to her general reception. People who love ENA adore her, but those out of the loop can definitely be hard-pressed to vote her. Losing to the relatively quiet Nicole and getting 8th wasn't the best sign for long-term results. I could still see her at least making Elite Eight depending on the bracket, but she might be too niche to outright win.

Who's going to make it back? I feel Tyr'ahnee is a fair shot, and Chel has a good shot at it if she gets no serious challengers. Brisby is a wild card like I said, but she still is the safest bet if you round it out to three. As stated, ENA's reception means she'd need a good bracket to do it again even if she gets a recency boost. I feel the other three are more likely than not out next year, with Nicole being the only one I could really see defying that prediction.
No.76653
Anonymous
>>76644
>Carl
I actually did expect him to win last year in finals. Not seeing Carl in the E8 until year 5 was a shock to me, and the fact his last two losses were to each year's champion speaks to Carl being a decent wall to overcome. I don't see him suddenly going soft next time, so chances are he's one of the safer bets to return in E8 unless he gets an unlucky bracket. In THAT case, he's not infallible. I do agree that he could break the runner-up curse, but it will also take some real push. I don't think the ATHF revival will really matter that much.
>Courage
Not only has Courage NEVER lost to a non-elite, but it's been close in nearly every instance. While he is infamously quiet and could have that come back to bite him finally next time, chances are he's going to continue being a sheer beast. Now I'm not sure he'd actually win bar actual campaigning, but I feel his main gatekeeper from E8 is another powerhouse. Courage is (ironically) one of the most terrifying characters in any of these tournaments.
>Daffy
Call me crazy, but I feel Daffy has the better tools to actually break the Elite Eight curse than Carl. This guy is a legend with consistent supporters and a perfect personality to go far. I will say he's not immune to pitfalls, but a return to Elite Eight is certainly a feasible bet if he doesn't get a poor bracket.
>Grim
If there's one guy to rival Courage, it's Grim. I will say that he might be slightly more at risk, but it's like comparing two heavy firearms here. If Grim gets on a tougher bracket, it might do him in. If he's on even a decent one, I feel he'll most likely clutch it.
>Squidward
Squidward turned out to be a surprisingly strong pick actually looking back at his losses after last year. He could definitely pull off another strong run next year if things fell in his favor. That said, my gut tells me he's going to get knocked out even if it will likely be a fair fight. This WOULD be a triple dip for SpongeBob in E8 even if the idea of that wasn't even on the table until last year. Still, I feel Squidward shouldn't be truly underestimated even if he's not quite as likely as all the above powerhouses. He's not a real pushover here and I feel his E8 presence was surprisingly due in hindsight.
>Max
We go from strong to "wow, it's insane this one happened". Max is a great character and had a fun campaign last year. Sadly, even if he challenged the stigma he still does suffer from the usual duo problem without Sam. I feel his bracket last time was truly a perfect storm to get him in. I just can't see a repeat here even with another vocal campaign.
>Xavier
While many do love this guy, I feel he is far from invincible. When he's lost, he's lost by pretty decent margins. I feel he's definitely a leg above Max due to his excellent 2022 campaign and the general goodwill around his show, but I feel he's more likely to end up as one of those fan favorites who gets felled in the end. Still, I also can't discount another elite run with the right sauce.

While Ms. /co/ isn't too hard to talk about, Mr. /co/ is another story due to the pure amount of powerhouses here. The only two that I feel match at least the top four are Hank and Jack, who are obviously off the cards next year. I feel there's a good chance we see at least three of these guys back next time. Could even get five if we're highballing, although I'm quite skeptical of that just off the pure insanity of that idea. My gut tells me either Courage or Grim WILL lose prior to Elite Eight, but the other makes it. Carl and Daffy might really coast by if they don't get a real fight, but we'll see. As stated, I also feel Squidward is being somewhat undersold here. Other two are probably out, much as I enjoy them. Even without their individual issues, the fact they're against such strong competition does not bode well.
No.76683
Anonymous
Replies:>>76684
>>76585
Shantae would have simply been a bad winner. Her series is the epitome of mediocrity and she's only popular as a videogame character because of her design. Say whatever you want about Recette, but at least she had passionate run and comes from an unique game that resonated with the board at some point.
No.76684
Anonymous
>>76683
>Jew fingers typed this
No.76685
Anonymous
>>76102
Chel, Tyr'ahnee and ENA will come back, all will make E8 once more. All 7 Mr. E8's will return, but only Grim, Courage and Carl will make the elite once more.
No.76689
Anonymous
Image:170309276322.jpg(189kB, 774x968)1701212417851875.jpg
>>76685
God I hope so
I love my cute wife ENA so much
No.76710
Anonymous
Replies:>>76730
Since the topic of who will return to the 2024 elites has been in the air for some days, I did some research over the previous years to see how many contestants have returned immediately to the top 8 after their yearly ban was over.

>Ms. /co/
2018-2020: 3 (Kim Possible, Chel, Starfire)
2019-2021: 0
2020-2022: 3 (Fang, Chel, Tyr'ahnee)
2021-2023: 1 (Eris)
2022-2024: TBD

>Mr. /co/
2018-2020: 1 (Shaggy)
2019-2021: 2 (Hank, Skeletor)
2020-2022: 1 (Daffy)
2021-2023: 3 (Skeletor, Jack, Hank)
2022-2024: TBD

As for which tournaments holds the record for having the most repeating elite members in its top 8 overall, they are Mr. /co/lympus 2021 and Ms. /co/ 2023, each with 5 contestants who had already made top 8 at least once (Hank, Aku, Skeletor, Jack and JJJ; Eris, Toph, Raven, Harley and EVE).


So with this info in mind I think it’s safe to assume 2024 will at least have 3 returning girls and 3 returning boys from 2022.
No.76730
Anonymous
>>76710
Yeah, I've also noticed there seems to be a "pattern of three" that's forming in these. It didn't entirely stick this year with Ms. /co/ being veteran-heavy and both /v/ tournaments being half returning, but at LEAST three seems to be expected.

>>76685
I can see either ENA or Brisby returning next year. Probably not both considering their individual challenges, yet it's not entirely out of question. I think most people agree on Tyr'ahnee or Chel right now. Would be a little more skeptical of the latter, but to be frank I feel the events last year are going to let her steamroll at least back into Elite Eight bar a select few girls.
No.76734
Anonymous
We're talking about the returning contestants from 2022, but what about everyone else from previous years? Who's due for a return to Elite Eight, who could pull off a surprise run, and who's simply finished?
No.76767
Anonymous
Replies:>>76768
>>76734
Starfire, Frankie and Kim Possible are due for their return. Peridot, Jucika and Johanna are fucking done
No.76768
Anonymous
>>76767
I don't think Jucika is completely done but given that she basically got turned into a punching bag candidate after Propane and Slappy's campaigns against her yeah it's not likely
The rest though definitely, Peridot is SHIT and FINISHED
and likely will never qualify again
Pearl will remain just popular enough to qualify but forever get spitevoted round 1, along with any other SUtroon picks that somehow still qualify
Johanna and Hilda will both remain round 1 jobbers, not even just because of people resentful over 2021 but because they're just not very interesting to begin with, though MAYBE they could become midcarders if their supporters come back
And Black Canary... continues to just be Black Canary, pretty much the face of all E8ers doomed to never return
No.76771
Anonymous
Replies:>>76772
>>76734
There's quite a lot, but might as well be thorough here.

>Starfire
She's a quiet pick, but also consistent enough where I feel she has a strong shot at returning. Not sure she's going to outright win, however, especially if Raven couldn't do it last year.
>Kim Possible
Similar situation to the above, with maybe slightly more weakness with Raven's return this year.
>Helen Parr
While she does alright, feel she's going to remain a midcarder. Silent like her husband, but without all the funposting.
>Black Canary
Above post summed her up perfectly. In hindsight, she might have even gotten kind of lucky. Wonder Woman losing to Jinx by a single vote might have been her big break.
>Frankie Foster
She's too consistent to count out only losing to other elites, but also feel she's past her prime as a candidate. Still in a similar boat to Starfire and Kim.
>Shego
Harder to judge than the above. Still a serious pick, but feel she's also got some clear blind spots. Leaning on her not making it back next time, but could always do it with the right luck.
>Velma
No idea what's happening with the shitshow's second season, but it seemed to not affect her that much this year. More apparent is that she seems susceptible to a decent campaign taking her down. Could see her back, but not without good luck.
>Azula
She's turning into the weak link of FARTS, and to be frank I don't see that changing. Not finished, but also not the likeliest to return.
>Pearl
She's finished due to her show.
>Peridot
She's finished period.
>Jucika
As mentioned, she was likely an one-hit wonder making it in 2020.
>Johanna
Being considered one of the worst runner-ups ever already says a lot.
>Hilda
Not in as bad a state as her mother, but likely doomed to remain a midcarder at best.
>Ms. Bellum
She actually got very close this year and barely lost to Clover. Feel she's not a hard candidate to filter out, but she's not off the table to return.
>Muriel
She's a hard one to read, but feel she's going to balance out into more of a midcarder. Courage and Eustace got more spice behind them.
>Lord Dominator
Not the strongest pick, but likely would have returned if not for going against Wuya's powerhouse campaign this year. That alone keeps her from being discredited.
>Miss Pauling
Hard to say how much FOTM helped Lois against her, but even then there's plenty of holes in her campaign. If it's any plus for her, she does seem to be getting more traction over in Queen of /v/.

Starfire, Kim, and Frankie could all squeeze in without too much fanfare needed. Shego, Bellum, and Dominator also have decent odds depending how the tide goes. Rest range from needing luck to just being finished.
No.76772
Anonymous
Replies:>>76777
>>76771
>Captain America
Is it even worth talking about this guy ever having another chance? Even if he had somehow made it without rigging, there's more feasible starters from Marvel.
>JJJ
I could see qualifiers this year giving him a nice boost assuming he's back next time. He's certainly not invincible, but JJJ is still a fighter. He's often put up a good fight, and only lost in a smaller margin to Shaggy in 2020. I'd say he has at least a fair shot.
>Shaggy
Speaking of Shaggy, while Velma could get lucky it's clear who's top dog from Scooby-Doo. He hasn't touched Round 4 since his last return, but considering he lost to Kermit (a pretty strong non-elite) and Skeletor (this year's winner) I'd hardly say he's finished. His chances are decent overall.
>Superman
I'm not counting him out forever, but it's going to take a lucky storm to get him back this far. Leaning on no for next year.
>Aku
You can't count him out, but gut tells me he probably will fall before quarterfinals. Dale wasn't a normal opponent to take down and it's not like Aku was doing much anyways, yet at the same time I do have to wonder about his staying power compared to Jack. At the least, he'll remain a serious filter.
>Kuzco
This is a wild one. He went from being seen as a no-hoper to getting new life this year. Not sure it would be enough for him to win, but an Elite Eight return isn't off the cards. Realistic odds at least, though certainly not guaranteed.
>Bugs Bunny
His only early loss thus far was to Shrek last year, but it's not a detrimental defeat considering the close margin and Shrek generally being one of the strongest non-elites left. I feel there are several guys who made Top 16 this year who could come back around next year, and Bugs is no exception. Still, Daffy is also coming back and generally seen as the stronger of the two. Not exactly counting on him, but would be surprised to see him lose Round 2 next time.
>Batman
You could argue whether he's in a rough spot or could easily wake up at any time. I think he's fittingly a dark horse here. He's certainly not the most likely based on basic statistics, but I wouldn't count him out. Do think he has a better shot than Superman at least.
>Doofenshmirtz
I feel Doof may be one of the most serious ones to come back. He's always done well and needs elites to take him down, not to mention how he actually woke up to an extent last year. I feel with the right bracket he could easily squeeze back in.
>Wallace
Losing to a midcarder like Hades this year was rough. Could see him making it back with the right luck, but sadly he's not on the top of the list here considering the competition.
>Hugh
He's going to at least need decent power to take down, but I would say his elite run is looking more like a fluke right now. Could always come back, but certainly not as safe as others here.
>WALL-E
Not a weak pick, but I feel his silent power isn't quite as strong as EVE. Feel he's not going to make it back barring an easy bracket.
>Eustace
He's had a couple rough losses over the years, but is another one who's on elite playing ground. He could definitely come back, but also wouldn't say he's quite as strong as the monster known as Courage. Leaning on him being another filter.
>Mr. Incredible
The silent jokes may be fun, but they do speak to a truth about him. I could see him squeezing in on a more favorable bracket, but can't ever see him actually winning. More likely than not that we see the expected jokes as he filters a couple easier trimmings out.
>Marvin
His only run post-2021 thus far is Jack, yet at the same time I feel he was an one-hit wonder. Doesn't Augie also get behind him?
>Iroh
I could see him being a little more consistent than Marvin, but feel he's also going to have a hard time making it back.

There's no obvious fodder like Ms. /co/, but going over all these men you can tell they aren't created equal. I would say Doof and JJJ seem the most favorable right now.
No.76777
Anonymous
>>76772
>>Kuzco
>This is a wild one. He went from being seen as a no-hoper to getting new life this year.
I didn't think I was that good with him tbdesu. I could do way way better, so I'll try and make him more worthwhile next year, at least on the campaign side of things. I'm also gonna writefag for JJJ next year.
No.76813
Anonymous
Replies:>>76833
>>76734
Looking at our current list, it's very easy to single out the Mr. /co/ 2020 and Ms. /co/ 2021 elites as flukes for the most part. A majority of those characters are never going to make it back into Elite Eight save for a few very specific exceptions. Everyone is already aware of the shitshow that was Ms. /co/ in 2021, but I wonder what resulted in Mr. /co/ being such a weak Elite Eight that year.

The only girls I think are worth highlighting are Dominator, Azula, Frankie, Starfire and Kim. And I have the same opinion on all of them - they are good filters, but without active support they aren't likely to make it as far again. Everyone else is either finished or destined to be a midcard for the rest of time.

The guys I have things to say about present more interesting cases.
>JJJ
THE original tournament underdog and a contestant with a very interesting track record all things considered. Jonah failing to qualify this year left everyone in shock and I think many will agree it was most likely due to an error on the hosts' end. Call me preposterous, but I can see him making another deep run going off the latest controversy and his already high status as a long-time runner.
>Aku
Alright, I think it's fair to say he is back to being in Jack's shadow. Aku losing so hard to Dale frankly surprised me, but otherwise he is not that unlikely to make top 8 again. He won't win, but being back to the elite is not completely out of question.
>Kuzco
He's been getting his groove back and people seem much more supportive of him in general. Not winner material, but I can see him back in the elite eight once again, and with a better ranking than in 2018.
>Doof
Actually a very consistent character in his performance. His biggest caveat in past years was being considered too silent, but that changed this year. Like with Kuzco, I don't see him as winner materia,l but with a good campaign Doof could realistically beat his 2019 record.
>Marvin
Contrary to the anon above, I wouldn't count out Marvin just yet. He fell victim to Jack this year, but dude, it's fucking Jack! I honestly think Marvin actually has better chances of making QF again over Bugs simply due to having more dedicated support. He just needs a bracket that is not totally horrible.
No.76833
Anonymous
Replies:>>76835
>>76813
2020 was just people having fun. I wouldn't mind Hugh and Wallace coming back even if I had to vote against Wallace round 2 in 2022.
No.76835
Anonymous
Replies:>>76837
>>76833
I wouldn’t mind it either, I probably should have mentioned them in my post. But it’s surprising how they went from being early exists that lose to mid cards, to semifinalists, to early exists that lose to mid cards once again.
No.76837
Anonymous
>>76835
Unironically Wallace got 3rd place that year because he fucked Mung's wife
That's the true key to his success
No.76842
Anonymous
Replies:>>76845
Surely next year Donald will finally make elite eight, right?
No.76845
Anonymous
>>76842
Who knows. He’s at least only lost to elites (and the Joker), but he sure pairs against them quite often. Some of his best years were also the two where Daffy was absent. He’s clearly not weak, but hard to say whether he’s just waiting for the right bracket or just a more high caliber midcarder. I’d love to see it happen myself, but will likely take a serious push from supporters to make up the difference.

If we’re talking characters that feel right in the wings, I’d say that Scrooge, Popeye, Kermit, and maybe Shrek all qualify for that.
No.76854
Anonymous
Image:170319776885.jpg(178kB, 1439x2048)__gwen_tennyson_ben_10_drawn_by_youzaiyouzai112__d160388bc0dcbb7f9e302b6af9bcbba7.jpg
Now that we've talked about all the Elite 8 members and how we think they'll do in the future, let's talk about the strongest characters that have NEVER made it into the Elite 8 yet. The ones that were so close... All the characters that have made it to the Sweet 16.
>Which ones are your favourites?
>Which one do you think is the most likely to finally get into the Elite 8 next year?
>Who's the most SHIT and FINISHED?
And here's the list of all the unlucky girls. Would make one for the men but I'm not feeling it. Maybe someone else can do it.
>Power Girl
>Kim Pine
>Gwenpool
>Marceline
>Jinx
>Star Butterfly
>Zatanna
>Peni Parker
>Gwen Tennyson
>Jessica Rabbit
>Gaz
>Ty Lee
>Hekapoo
>Coraline
>Daphne
>Alice
>Karen
>Mandy
>Gwen (TD)
>Tigress
>Propane
>Creepy Susie
>Captain Amelia
>Judy Hopps
>Tinker Bell
>Lois Lane
No.76856
Anonymous
Replies:>>76939
>>76854
>Favorites
Alice and Gwenpool
>Most likely to finally get into the Elite 8
Honestly all of these are very dependent on campaigns and bracket luck, I don't see anyone who's an easy bet. I think Jessica Rabbit is the most likely of these. Least likely are any comic characters because the comic community on /co/ dies more and more each year
>SHIT and FINISHED
Star Butterfly, I was wondering how this bitch even got to round 4 to begin with but then I looked it up and saw it was in 2018 before her show really went to shit
Tigress because furry riggers
No.76923
Anonymous
>>76854
>favorites
There's actually a lot of nice picks here. I'd probably say Gaz, Marceline, Karen, and Alice are the ones I most want to see make Elite Eight someday.

>Most likely
I second Jessica Rabbit. She's easily the biggest shocker out of these, so I'd say she's one good bracket away from making it. I'd say that Karen and Coraline also have clear staying power.

>SHIT and FINISHED
Star only made it in 2018 and even then got clapped by Kim. Still, she's an easy target here. Hekapoo doesn't have the same stigma, but can't see her ever getting that far again even if she DID qualify. Comic characters in general are weaker, but out of them all I sure as hell can't see Power Girl defying the odds. It remains to be seen if Lois was a fluke or not due to the boost from MAwS (hilarious both sides at that), but I could at least see scenarios where she makes it regardless.
No.76939
Anonymous
Replies:>>76962
>>76856
>Tigress
After he clarified the situation about Nicole, I'd take what NSA said with a grain of salt except for Brisby and Shirley. She got Jetstream Sam'd this year huh?
No.76961
Anonymous
Replies:>>76963
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He's like the Monika of /co/
Somehow always qualifies & never gets to do anything of note and jobs R1 again and again
yet despite this he never gets brought up when it comes to jobbers
No.76962
Anonymous
>>76939
I take EVERYTHING NSA says with a massive grain of salt.
No.76963
Anonymous
>>76961
>never gets to do anything of note
Plas had an incredibly based round with Spongebob this year.
No.76966
Anonymous
What do we think of >>76878 >>76880 >>76894?
No.76967
Anonymous
Image:170325628906.png(59kB, 207x295)notinterested.png
>>76966
No.76977
Anonymous
Ok support brisby next year, gotta follow through on my fanggang alliance
No.76979
Anonymous
Replies:>>76980
>>76966
Tbh I don't have a problem with it, except maybe it'd be a good idea to not post any OC he did until after the tournament is over.
No.76980
Anonymous
Replies:>>76981
>>76979
His layer appears to be the one with the Black Hat and Zim drawings.
No.76981
Anonymous
Replies:>>76983
>>76980
If that's him/her (lol) then they're pretty good, and it doesn't make me less inclined to vote for Black Hat or Zim just because the host might like them.
No.76983
Anonymous
Replies:>>76985
>>76981
>calling nsa a woman
Does that mean he's going to get pregnant from all the times he's gotten raped
No.76984
Anonymous
Replies:>>76988
Image:170327212923.jpg(59kB, 587x645)concern.jpg
Wait, IF NSA is Zim and Black Hat's drawfag, wouldn't that open the possibility he and Onlyfansart are the same person?
Is that why he has been radio silent since the middle of the after party, because the Erikafag doxx was targeted towards him???
No.76985
Anonymous
>>76983
if he is a woman then we have to stop the raping
No.76988
Anonymous
Image:170327785152.png(2.04MB, 813x2992)1665384277790.png
>>76984
I can't find the original Magma for that one. If I'm remembering correctly, we reused some magma links and wiped them so it could be lost. If anyone could help me research the /co/ archives, it would be helpful. Don't harass the artist because we don't have substantial evidence for these accusations. Here's also a couple of things I noticed.
>the artist drew Betty Boop, Grievous, Midna, Wuya, Eris, and Zim
>despite drawing Betty Boop, she thought Eris should have won 2021 in the description on Deviantart
>NSA started hosting in Mr. /co/ 2021
>most of the Deviantart art is of Villainous which consists of midcarders and early fodder
>NSA made a joke that a Black Hat anon gets what he deserves with this OC as the OP in Mr. /co/ 2022
>the hosts vanished in King afterparty part 8 while the Erikafag started exposing the Ammy muzzle drawfag in King afterparty part 4 and NSA wasn't making threads
>NSA wasn't posting after King afterparty part 1
>something I thought was funny is someone with an Erika reaction image mentioned a year later that they voted 10 times for Betty Boop in 2021
No.76989
Anonymous
Image:170327808186.png(1.15MB, 1920x1080)1697178892172.png
>>76988
Found the post with the aggie from the other thread. The canvas was wiped.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139973498/#q139973526
No.76990
Anonymous
>>76989
The last Magma canvas to be posted during Mr. /co/ appears to be mostly intact.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140056638/#q140057032
https://magma.com/d/9wedpndw7l
No.76991
Anonymous
>>76988
>>76989
>>76990
Can you tl;dr the Erika thing? Is that the drawfag who people think did the Ammy muzzle pics?
No.76992
Anonymous
Replies:>>77564
Image:170328033103.jpg(310kB, 1021x595)file.jpg
>>76990
No.76994
Anonymous
>>76991
Erikafag is someone who avatarfagged Erika from Umineko while claiming they knew who made the Ammy muzzle pictures. The same person who some are suspicious of is NSA (the Zim/Black Hat drawfag with a Deviantart who also drew all those characters listed, and I've heard others claim SHODAN and Bayonetta as well) is the one they accused of making the Ammy muzzle pics. There was a whole thing about it in the King afterparty, starting in Part 4. After that situation and even though I went digging myself, making that greentext list, I'm willing to hear the drawfag out if they ever get asked about it or come here because I wouldn't be surprised if some or the Erikafag is still having a vendetta over it with how poorly they reacted to stupid joke art.
No.76995
Anonymous
>>76991
Someone avatarfagging as Erika accused the person who drew the Ammy muzzle pics of being the artist behind characters such as Bayonetta, Wuya, Black Hat, Albert Wesker, Shodan (in particular the one who only showed up for the Losers final) and more. But he didn't say anything about them being NSA IIRC.
No.76996
Anonymous
Replies:>>77002
>>76995
Yeah, these NSA accusations just started the other day.
No.76997
Anonymous
>>76995
>Shodan (in particular the one who only showed up for the Losers final)
Still pissed about that. We had a clean campaign until then.
No.76998
Anonymous
Replies:>>76999
>>76995
NSA has said multiple times they don't know much about video games and don't really care about queen/king of /v/.
No.76999
Anonymous
>>76998
>the Shodan drawfag didn't know Shodan or the game she was from
No.77000
Anonymous
Replies:>>77001
>>76995
Reminder that this person added the llg tag himself all over the booru and was the one connecting a lot of these. He tried to paint mapanon as the same person before getting called out over it.

Now granted, it's clear at least a good junk of those character's art were done by the same person going off art style. It's just fair to not take it for granted it was all one anon, nor that they HAD to have done the muzzle art. (There's also the possibility that they "disowned" or just moved on from the muzzle art before another person latched onto it and possibly put it on the booru.)
No.77001
Anonymous
Replies:>>77003
>>77000
i think the mapanon accusations came from someone else entirely
No.77002
Anonymous
>>76996
The only things we know for sure are
>someone present during one of the Mr. /co/ drawing sessions posted TabithaTwitchitt#0314 as their contact info
>TabithaTwitchitt#0314 is the Discord name NightShiftAnon shared back in October of 2021 to contact Dominos and Brackets (>>1985)
>the supposed TabithaTwitchitt wasn't just spectating, they were drawing in their own layer of the canvas
>said layer at least appears to have drawings of Black Hat and Zim
No.77003
Anonymous
>>77001
Unless someone else just happened to latch on for some reason, the mapanon accusation WAS from Erikafag.

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/660344402/#660350738
No.77004
Anonymous
Replies:>>77005
If nobody nominates Tabitha Twitchit next year, I'll be disappointed.
No.77005
Anonymous
No.77007
Anonymous
Image:170329270162.png(1MB, 680x999)150.png
Alright fags who are you campaigning for Ms. and Mr.
I'm planning on going all out on Eddy when Mr. /co/ comes around. We're long overdue for an Ed boy in the Elite Eight, but people always get split between all the series reps and can never rally behind just one so they kind of get divide & conquered. To any other EEnE fags I invite you to unite under the Eddy banner, so that next year IT WILL BE HIM.
No.77009
Anonymous
>>77007
I would love to see Eddy finally go far.
No.77010
Anonymous
Replies:>>77012
>>77007
I've got a few options to support next time, but I've considered one of the Eds. I was really surprised to see some call Eddy the "weak link" of the three to win, so I'd love to see him be the first to hit elite status.
No.77011
Anonymous
Image:170329371311.jpg(427kB, 2048x1289)1684393213288484.jpg
>>77007
for Ms. /co/: ENA and the Murder Drones girls.
for Mr. /co/: Xavier, N
Digital Circus characters are eligible next year so I'll probably end up campaigning for one of them. most likely Kinger.
No.77012
Anonymous
>>77010
Eddy is not weak link, but he has always been the unluckiest one when it comes to matchups.
No.77013
Anonymous
>>77011
Kinger outlasting Jax would be hilarious.
No.77014
Anonymous
Image:170329407606.jpg(222kB, 1059x450)popeye.jpg
>>77007
I feel your sentiment with Popeye. He's long overdue for E8, and had a ridiculous amount of close shaves with other strong characters. He only lost to Livesey by 3 votes.
No.77015
Anonymous
Replies:>>77022
>>77007
I want to try campaigning for Kuzco again, but I don't know where exactly I should take his campaign. I'll probably just come up with something on the fly since it usually works out for me.
No.77017
Anonymous
Image:170329440208.jpg(6kB, 100x122)Wuya.jpg
>>77002
What the fuck...
No.77018
Anonymous
>>77007
Tiff and Pacifica for Ms., depending on when/if they lose I'll see if I can hop onto any other character left that I know and like enough to campaign for as a secondary pick.
No.77019
Anonymous
No.77021
Anonymous
Image:170329480261.png(725kB, 1427x1935)6cbb8c934d1fbb6c838913a24d3794012dffe534.png
>>77011
>ENA
>Xavier
BASADO
No.77022
Anonymous
>>77015
Oh yeah I'm gonna try writefagging for JJJ also. I've already got ideas for him with the qualifier debacle this year and Balls retiring.
No.77023
Anonymous
Image:170329520408.gif(390kB, 636x356)1633913113873.gif
>>77007
Master Shake again. Carl is back so him too. I want Aqua Teen to win.
No.77024
Anonymous
Replies:>>77059
Image:170329628846.png(1.51MB, 1280x1280)IMG_9395.png
>>77007
Will I campaign for Terezi again? Yes. Will she fail to qualify for the main bracket another time? Most likely. Will anons call me stupid for being so persistent with a Homestuck character out of all things? Probably. Am I going to give up anytime soon? I don’t think so.

ENA and Coraline would be my preferred mainstays, but I had some fun posting Tinkerbell last time.
As for Mr. /co/, I would like to focus on campaigning for Sam and Max. Both of 'em.
No.77026
Anonymous
Image:170329713490.gif(2.16MB, 498x261)Living like a King.gif
>>77007
For Ms. /co/, I just want to see Mrs. Brisby get far again, hopefully with no real strings this time. Mr. /co/ is more open-ended, but I've already got some fun ideas for Daffy's return.
No.77027
Anonymous
Image:170329748000.jpg(33kB, 600x600)doof.jpg
>>77007
Since Farquaad is on vacation next year, I'm gonna try my hand at Doof if the mods' stigma against Doofposting is mitigated. I'll also campaign for Hugh since he's also one of my mains.
No.77028
Anonymous
Replies:>>77029
>>77027
Mods have a stigma against Doofposting? I must be out of the loop.
No.77029
Anonymous
>>77027
I saw Doofposting this year so I think you'll be good. I might make more OC for him next year depending on how my main does
>>77028
Not really Doofposting specifically just anything that vaguely resembles RP in general, but they seem to have eased up on it lately.
No.77032
Anonymous
Replies:>>77039
Image:170330379135.jpg(237kB, 720x540)Santa&Elves.jpg
I forgot that this month is, in fact, December, the month of Christmas; I blame King /v/ starting on the first.
In any case, I found a site that seems to have all of the the episodes of The Secret World of Santa Claus in English (because I doubt most people here speak French) and in order! I don't know if anybody here is interested in old French Christmas cartoons, but here's the link anyway:
https://www.wco.tv/anime/the-secret-world-of-santa-claus
It's not a 1-1 translation, but the points still seem to be the same.
No.77033
Anonymous
Image:170330585103.jpg(133kB, 1920x1080)042545FB-497A-40E5-A43F-068DC3637AB7.jpeg
>>77007
Oh you know, the usual girls. As for mr. I don’t have a specific guy so such since Hank is out again. Carl’s probably the best fat bastard choice but I question his chances.
No.77034
Anonymous
Image:170330714754.jpg(78kB, 640x480)sg.jpg
*blink* Can you help Space Ghost save christmas? I bet you can't.
How Zorak Stole X-Mas (old Cartoon Network game)youtube thumb
No.77039
Anonymous
Replies:>>77040
>>77032
watched this shit every year growing up in quebec
No.77040
Anonymous
Replies:>>77041
Image:170331852988.jpg(187kB, 720x540)ThorenSanta.jpg
>>77039
I'm not the only frogleaf here, huh.
No.77041
Anonymous
Replies:>>77042
>>77040
yeah, i'm going through insomnia right now. anyway, the "père fouettard" stuff was bizarre. i think it's something they have in france.
No.77042
Anonymous
Image:170331966516.jpg(154kB, 1500x1080)Gruzzlebot.jpg
>>77041
Yeah, "Père Fouettard" is an European French thing, basically another sort of Krampus.
No.77059
Anonymous
Image:170333154489.png(1.21MB, 1280x1707)sex tier.png
>>77024
good taste
No.77075
Anonymous
Replies:>>77461
Image:170333796158.png(406kB, 711x1000)golby2-2000-AD-Comic-Books-фэндомы-2459195.png
>>77007
SHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARASHAKARA
No.77241
Anonymous
Image:170343888376.jpg(104kB, 606x606)1680237920320108.jpg
>>77007
Why Amity fucking Blight of course.
No.77267
Anonymous
>>76988
>>77002
I have been digging through Desuarchive and this is the most interesting stuff I have gathered.

>The initial post in which NSA first announced Ms. /co/ 2022 final results came with an spoilered OC image of Fang.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132933033/#q132933884
It clearly is a reference to the Jurassic Park museum scene. While it might be a trace, Fang is drawn very on-model. Whoever made it had to have used a drawing tablet and had some experience drawing Fang. The file name itself is "Untitled_Artwork”.
However, this contradicts the initial assumption that NSA can’t draw. Black Hat anon (who I am going to assume is Onlyfansart) drew porn of NSA near the start of Mr. /co/lympus 2022 round 1. You know where those infamous memes about King Kong raping NSA come from.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133443762/#133445788
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133443762/#133446412
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133443762/#133446807
In response to this, NSA posted a poorly drawn doodle of how he saw himself in the following thread. This is actually where the most common depiction of NSA in tourney fanart stems from. So does NSA know how to draw or not?
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133447577/#133448557
Maybe it’s worth pointing out that this may be the most NSA has ever interacted with another anon during a tournament because of OC portraying him.

>The person who made Fang's elite eight images outright said being Onlyfansart
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132954950/#132962958
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132954950/#132966319
Anons were hesitant to use these for the wiki because they ignited some controversy for swapping Chel and Shirley's spots and giving asterisks to Brisby, Nicole and Shirley - just as per NightShift's own statements in regards to the tournament's results, which he still seems to firmly stand by to this day.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139303848/#q139307841

>NSA made a DeviantArt account during Mr. /co/lympus 2022 round 4.
Anons had to urge him to delete it immediately before replacing it with a Pixiv gallery which… hasn’t been updated since then.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133507153/#133509715
>"I plan on linking to art accounts/blogs etc if you would like recognition.”
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133507153/#133509857
>"I have never used Tumblr or Imgur."
>”But I have browsed Pixiv before."
The implication here could be that NSA was at least familiar with browsing and/or uploading to DeviantArt before deciding to make an account.


From this I can only draw two conclusions.
>NightShift and Onlyfansart are the same person playing with two different identities
>NightShift and Onlyfansart know each other personally
The first scenario frankly sounds ridiculous - as it would mean NSA has been the one drawing humiliation porn of himself this entire time, but at least it’s easier to explain than why would someone else be posting NSA's Discord as their contact info.
No.77269
Anonymous
Image:170346250607.jpg(52kB, 640x480)NERVOUSku.jpg
>>77267
This is a lot to take in.
No.77275
Anonymous
>>77267
This would be like the original rigging controversy of Captain America on crack if it all adds up with how many /co/ finalists this artist is fond of.
No.77290
Anonymous
Seeing as how over in /v/ John Ward got 3rd place after getting the Literally Who award the year before, do you think any of our current Mr and Ms. Literally Who recipients have a shot at the crown?
>Ms. /co/ 2021: Marie (CotC)
>Ms. /co/ 2022: Coco, Mymy, Maya (Ongezellig)
>Mr. /co/ 2022: Dr. Livesey
>Ms. /co/ 2023: Uzi, Cyn (Murder Drones)
>Mr. /co/ 2023: Serial Designation N (Murder Drones), Jack O'Lantern (Billy & Mandy)
No.77294
Anonymous
>>77290
Livesey seems to be the one with the best chance out of all of these.
No.77295
Anonymous
>>77290
They all deserve to be Elite 8 members at least. All except for fuckin Marie the hell is that.
No.77297
Anonymous
Replies:>>77298
>>77295
To this day I am almost certain the Craig of the Creek character getting in the bracket at all was due to one extremely autistic rigger spamming qualifier votes for her, she's an unremarkable side-character from a show that /co/ largely either dislikes or doesn't care about (rightly so, CotC is the epitome of nu-CN slop), no way she gets in without rigging. Yes I'm aware some people probably confused her for Marie Kanker or something but it couldn't have been that many people.
She really is the truest Literally Who
No.77298
Anonymous
>>77297
I think the qualifier form was wonky and she appeared before the other Marie or something.
No.77299
Anonymous
>>77290
I could only really see Livesey having a shot at a win anytime soon, but could potentially see Uzi or Jack at least making E8 with a favorable bracket.
No.77302
Anonymous
Replies:>>77303
>>77290
How was Jack O' Lantern a literally who?
No.77303
Anonymous
>>77302
Psyanon wanted to do two picks, and a runner-up was hard to decide. Effectively it was just Murder Drones for both.
No.77310
Anonymous
Replies:>>77315
>>77295
>Ongezellig and MD all deserve to be in E8
eh, no.
No.77315
Anonymous
>>77310
eh, yes.
No.77316
Anonymous
Replies:>>77317
Image:170349111408.gif(171kB, 512x339)1678906608622698.gif
>>77315
No.77317
Anonymous
Replies:>>77319
>>77316
I TANKED that.
No.77318
Anonymous
Replies:>>77320
>>77315
I mean, let's be real here. They had some passionate fans (MD at least) but they're basically zoomer fotm and irrelevant to the board at large.
No.77319
Anonymous
Replies:>>77322
Image:170349415093.jpg(28kB, 525x461)Gokulo.jpg
>>77317
No.77320
Anonymous
Replies:>>77365
>>77318
>zoomer fotm
They make perfect winners then.
No.77321
Anonymous
Replies:>>77323
>>77267
We need to get rid of NSA.
No.77322
Anonymous
Replies:>>77324
Image:170349550426.png(1.70MB, 2560x1440)f8tUIdM.png
>>77319
I TANKED that.
No.77323
Anonymous
>>77321
People have been saying that all year and others always reply with that it's impossible. I refuse to believe there is no way to get rid of him. Even looking past the drawfag rumors, this has been the most mismanaged year for all 4 tournaments yet and the poor communication while doing whatever he wants without a second opinion destroyed any trust with him we could have. As for the rumors, if Onlyfansart doesn't have a good explanation when the main tournaments come back, I'm scared to go back.
No.77324
Anonymous
Image:170349731295.png(1.67MB, 760x1200)SHIT aura.png
>>77322
....with my SHIT aura!
No.77325
Anonymous
Replies:>>77326
>>77323
We can message Onlyfansart on DeviantArt.
No.77326
Anonymous
>>77325
If we do, we need to be able to hear them out. I don't want someone to just be harassed.
No.77327
Anonymous
Replies:>>77343
Has anyone tried contacting the other two Mr. /co/ hosts from 2021? We even still have their discords in the 2021 thread.
No.77328
Anonymous
Replies:>>77329
>>77323
It's not that we can't get rid of him, it's that we need someone who's actually willing to step up and host in his place.
No.77329
Anonymous
>>77328
Until very recently our understanding was that only NightShift and the hosts under him had the authority to make tournament threads.
No.77331
Anonymous
Image:170350250606.jpg(820kB, 3000x3000)hhart16.jpg
Merry Christmas not in July!
Another Winter in July (hhgregg)youtube thumb
No.77332
Anonymous
Replies:>>77369
Image:170350389735.gif(1.15MB, 220x165)1591037053146.gif
>>77267
>as it would mean NSA has been the one drawing humiliation porn of himself this entire time
No.77334
Anonymous
Replies:>>77337
Image:170350578149.jpg(6kB, 210x240)rada.jpg
RADARADARADA
No.77337
Anonymous
>>77334
Dude, it's Christmas, you can't say that...
No.77343
Anonymous
Replies:>>77345
>>77327
Dominos quit after the Tag Team 2021 fiasco and I don't know what happened to Brackets.
No.77345
Anonymous
Replies:>>77346
>>77343
I think brackets quit after the n-word question offended him.
No.77346
Anonymous
>>77345
That's a different Brackets. the one who quit over the n-word question was doing his thing back in 2020 when Stats was still the main host.
No.77352
Anonymous
Replies:>>77361
>>77007
I've been saying that about the Edboys for years. It seems surprising not a single one has made E8 considering EEnE is like the golden standard of /co/. But they've all kind of suffered from being too silent, having unlucky matches (Eddy went against Hank R1 this year), and having their power sort of dispersed evenly instead of concentrated on one rep. The edboys best function as one unit and don't stand out as much individually. They could demolish a trio's tourney.
No.77358
Anonymous
Replies:>>77364
Since it's that time of year again, are there any Christmas-adjacent picks that actually have a chance aside from Jack Skellington?
No.77359
Anonymous
>>77295
I'd be fine with MD making it far.
No.77361
Anonymous
>>77352
I think that mainly applies to Ed and Double D, but Eddy can absolutely work on his own.
No.77362
Anonymous
I don’t even dislike MD but if you think they have a good chance at the crown you’re delusional
No.77364
Anonymous
>>77358
I'm not sure he'd do that well but I'm still surprised the Grinch hasn't even qualified yet. I guarantee if this was a December tournament he'd have been in every tournament by now.
No.77365
Anonymous
Replies:>>77375
>>77320
That's the antithesis of a perfect winner to /co/.
No.77369
Anonymous
>>77332
It (hopefully) has nothing to do with this but I also saw this post
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139227575/#139230769
No.77375
Anonymous
>>77365
But we already have multiple fotm winners. I'm not the one that voted for fotms, the board did.
No.77376
Anonymous
Replies:>>77379
>>77375
>multiple
Fang isn’t FoTM no matter what you say. She’s been around since 2019 and was a powerhouse with zero shit airing at the time of 2020.
No.77379
Anonymous
>>77376
you don't have to be new to be a FOTM, there just needs to be some event putting you at the forefront of everyone's mind. Muriel was FOTM during 2021 due to her VA dying, Lois Lane was FOTM in 2023 because of the new show, and Fang was FOTM in 2022 because Primal was airing its second season during the tournament.
No.77383
Anonymous
>>77375
We're talking "zoomer fotm." Only Spinel is that and that's because big rigs.
No.77451
Anonymous
We're gonna have another fotm winner this year.
No.77454
Anonymous
Image:170357450332.jpg(312kB, 1424x1080)Screencaps-alice-in-wonderland-34178593-1424-1080.jpg
>>77451
Not if I have anything to say about it
AliceCHADS, 2024 is going to be our year
No.77455
Anonymous
Replies:>>77456
>>77451
In just five days?
No.77456
Anonymous
>>77454
Alice would be great
>>77455
Yes in my one day tournament that I'm gonna host and it's totally not a mistake that I wrote.
No.77457
Anonymous
Image:170358902509.jpg(25kB, 600x600)1617751208444.jpg
>>77267
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132943000/#132945498
>NSA: "That's ok. Wiki doesn't determine the winner. The anons do. Please go back to coping. It's funnier every time you think wiki has any bearing on the actual tourney"

>>11396
>"Anyone got the winner sheet thing? I want to make the real one."
>>11393
>"Eh, I don't agree that a rigging character should be allowed to get second place. I'm going to make the real one. Wiki guys listening to riggers is really stupid."
>>11398
>"I've been working on second place art for Chel. Since in my opinion she deserves it."
>>11406
>"The wiki should reflect the actual tourney. The poll doesn't decide the winner. The sheets do. I'd say they should write about how Chel is second place, Shirley was demoted to third. This is the first incidence where rigging to win results in a disqualification. Which is what's going to happen in future tournaments too.
>"I just think it makes wiki anons look bad. Because it seems like they agree with cheating. The host's job is to reduce cheating, and run the tourney. And removing a cheating character is the bare minimum power he should have like most people agree"
>>11414
>NSA: "I’m not trying to start issues with wiki guys. I know you have to protect your site. I’m sorry if I came off gruff or rude. I deserve the criticisms."
>NSA: "I’m willing to drop out if my approval ratings are low at the end of this year."
>NSA: "I’m not the main host. LazyDay is. I’m not well versed in /v/ like him. He’s going to be helping me in Mr. /co/ this year so he can start small. Learn the ropes, and I’ll be monitoring/assisting him in Queen /v/. Then once he’s past his apprentice period he can run the tourneys on /v/ without me handholding."
>>11418
>NSA: "No. I was mad that riggers aped good characters, and used their good will from campaigns to force top characters out. No character deserved what they got because of cheaters. Of course. Every past host should try to teach new hosts. Vet them and spread the wealth. He’s been watching the tourney and I hope he recognizes how important clarity, and PR is."
>>11419
>"I’ll find the png. I’m Chel artist anon."
>>11428
>Two versions. Pick whichever looks better.
>I gotta finish my Chel art now.
>>11605

Call me paranoid but doesn't half of this old /tnt/ conversation just look like NSA samefagging? Also holy cow, all his posts mentioning PR have aged like milk.
No.77458
Anonymous
Image:170359742856.png(187kB, 460x349)lievarts.png
>>77454
Alice is actually a fun option to support the next year. Shame people barely even care about her, despite being arguably the best version of her (BSfags can unironically go hang themselves).
No.77461
Anonymous
Replies:>>77463
>>77075
these stupid posts got me to read his comic and fuck he's cool as shit and deserves to get in
No.77463
Anonymous
Image:170360893362.jpg(537kB, 1102x1527)C9CBA340-A4BD-40EC-AFCC-5DF53F30EA13.jpeg
>>77461
He’s a comic character with an actual conclusion to its story. Its literally unheard of in this day and age and the story it tells is grimdark but also tragic and somewhat humorous. It doesn’t take itself too seriously but also knows how to tell a dramatic moment, and the action scenes are fucking badass.
No.77470
Anonymous
>>77457
Possibly. I strongly suspected he was the one obsessively butthurt about the reaction to crown steal this year and kept accusing people of "not understanding double elims".
No.77471
Anonymous
Replies:>>77472
>>77470
I remember someone jokingly suggested he was the one spamming the Amaterasu scribbles because her and her supporters were the biggest target that could be strawmanned for being opponents of the Losers Finals and Grand Finals.
And isn't this same artist also accused of having made those drawings?
No.77472
Anonymous
>>77471
Erikafag was right...
No.77475
Anonymous
>>77470
I'm not going to scour b4k to dig up more shit, but during Ko/v/ someone did call out the anon who claimed to have drawn them for bringing the topic up by samefagging.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/660130104/#q660134027
No.77476
Anonymous
>>77457
Oh boy, ANOTHER host that ended up being biased on top of campaigning when they’re supposed to be completely neutral, why do we get so many of these?
No.77477
Anonymous
>>77476
I'm hesitant to ask, but since we are on /tnt/ we could just consult Black Hand to check if any of the posts in that reply chain came from the same person.
No.77478
Anonymous
Replies:>>77485
Has anyone tried contacting Onlyfansart yet to hear their side of this?
No.77479
Anonymous
Replies:>>77480
>>77476
His thoughts about Shirley and Chel were never secretive. The move to have Chel swapped 2nd was his. He even made it a required filter question last ms. /co/.
No.77480
Anonymous
Replies:>>77515
>>77479
This. It's the whole new implication of him not just secretly being a drawfag but also one associated with so many /co/ finalists and possibly having done smear art againts a contestant what should concern us.
No.77485
Anonymous
>>77478
Even if we ignore all the evidence connecting NSA to Onlyfansart, even if we ignore how sketchy NSA's behaviour has been for these last two years, for what conceivable reason would Onlyfansart be using and sharing NSA's discord if they are different people?
No.77487
Anonymous
>>77485
Good question.
No.77492
Anonymous
lol imagine what would have been of the /co/ tournaments if the original Mr. /co/ host didn't blunder his Captain America rig at the last moment
No.77493
Anonymous
>>77492
Capeshit would be doing a lot better if they weren't tainted by BIG RIGS.
No.77496
Anonymous
>>77492
Cappy would probably be considered a Recette tier victory over Bravo in retrospect, especially as other capes probably would continue having lackluster performances. I remember the slip-up happened in the first place cause anon's were a bit baffled Bravo lost and wanted to see the numbers directly.
No.77499
Anonymous
>>77496
Cappy would make for a mediocre comic/capeshit win rep in general.
No.77502
Anonymous
Replies:>>77507
>>77496
Supes and Batman would be better cape winners.
No.77507
Anonymous
Replies:>>77508
>>77502
>Supes
Spidey*
No.77508
Anonymous
Replies:>>77510
>>77507
No, Supes would also be a better cape winner than Cappy.
No.77510
Anonymous
Replies:>>77514
>>77508
And Spidey too.
No.77511
Anonymous
Replies:>>77513
>>77496
>NSA no longer shows the forms or finals docs
...
No.77513
Anonymous
>>77511
We have been calling out the hosts for not showing the finals docs since at least King of /v/ 2022 when NSA refused to show the semifinals graphs, although he has been doing it since the Mr. /co/ 2022 finale.
No.77514
Anonymous
>>77510
Yeah I don't disagree.
No.77515
Anonymous
>>77480
I've said before I think host participation should be a don't ask don't tell policy. I don't see an inherent problem with hosts drawing and voting and such so long as it's anonymous and their bias doesn't actually effect how they run the tourney. It's basically a trust thing. But it shouldn't come as a surprise if hosts participate. After all it takes a tourney autist to want to run these in the first place. If all this NSA speculation is true then I don't really blame him as at least he's tried to keep it anonymous while running his task. But if who he's supporting is exclusively those that end up as finalists or winners though then it'd be a big concern.
No.77520
Anonymous
>>77515
>But if who he's supporting is exclusively those that end up as finalists or winners though then it'd be a big concern.
WELL.........
No.77522
Anonymous
Replies:>>77528
Whether NSA is actually OFA is going to greatly impact his level of guilt here.
No.77523
Anonymous
>>77515
>But if who he's supporting is exclusively those that end up as finalists or winners though then it'd be a big concern.
It's not exclusively because Villainous, but still mostly. I used to think despite his poor and shady actions, he had the best intentions in mind but if it's true he drawfags after he said all that stuff about OC and campaigning, I could believe he has been rigging the tournaments for years.
No.77525
Anonymous
>>77515
>I don't see an inherent problem with hosts drawing and voting and such so long as it's anonymous and their bias doesn't actually effect how they run the tourney.
No. Hosts should remain primarily focused on running the tournaments as competently as possible, and without any strings attached. NSA is a fucking TERRIBLE host even outside of what we think of his character. If he has been campaigning for specific characters behind our backs we are going to have to put him down for good.
No.77527
Anonymous
Okay, I don't believe this all goes THAT deep despite the likely poor etiquette, but if we're talking conspiracies here I do want to point out something.

>Mrs. Brisby was claimed to have rigged against Alice in the first round by enough to win, with their match being in a margin of 22 votes
>Fang had huge wins every time EXCEPT for the first round, where she only beat Desiree by a mere 30 votes

I feel at least Fang's win was more likely than not legitimate, and that's not to mention how I'm skeptical there would be THAT much direct voter overlap between Desiree and Alice. Still, it is curious how these happened in such close proximity. Looking past a couple silent photo finishes, these were the third and fourth closest match-ups that round.
No.77528
Anonymous
>>77522
Reminder there’s a /tnt/ thread where both NSA and OFA posted and we can just ask Black Hand.
No.77529
Anonymous
>>77527
I remember attributing the Desiree match to being a first round underdog rally against the giga obvious powerhouse. Muriel had a similar thing against Spinel. Hard to say though. 2022 was another ms. /co/ with a 1000+ votes, twice compared to this year, and ms. /co/'s are usually jacked up to fuck.
No.77530
Anonymous
Replies:>>77598
>>77527
>I feel at least Fang's win was more likely than not legitimate, and that's not to mention how I'm skeptical there would be THAT much direct voter overlap between Desiree and Alice.
Didn’t NSA say at some point that Fang was losing to Desiree until the last batch of votes came in just an hour before the round 1 poll closed? I could be misremembering, but I swear he said something of that nature.
No.77531
Anonymous
SCHIZO CONSPIRACY THEORY
NSA isn’t a rigger, but he does turn a blind eye to rigging affecting characters he likes. The reason he didn’t bring up rigging in Ms. /co/ 2022 until the fourth round despite claiming Brisby had been rigged since the beginning is cause Gadget had cheating going on and she was Fang's opponent during the third round.
No.77532
Anonymous
Replies:>>77533
>>77531
>NSA likes fang so he let gadget cheat
Am I missing something here because that’s retarded
No.77533
Anonymous
>>77532
He claimed Gadget cheated but it wasn’t enough to beat Fang. I’m just spitballing here.
No.77535
Anonymous
>>77531
Being the host and letting rigging happen for characters you like is still rigging the tournament. All or nothing.
No.77538
Anonymous
Image:170363375847.png(101kB, 357x396)gaaaa.png
In the hypothetical NSA not only turns out to be OFA, but also turns out to be a rigger and owns up to the Erikafag conspiracy… What the hell should we do?
No, rather, what *could* we even do?
No.77539
Anonymous
>>77538
Simply ignore tourney's ran by him. I don't imagine the other hosts would cooperate with him at that point (at least I'd hope not).
No.77540
Anonymous
>>77538
The second part is a very different issue than the first. In that first case, I'd say that he should step down or at least have some repercussions for it, but it's not going to really sour the past that much. Pretty certain the closest winner he's presided over was Grimm, and that's one of the last characters I'd see him pushing for specifically. (Yes, he's a tournament favorite, but that's his general reception.) The second would be a way bigger issue.
No.77541
Anonymous
Replies:>>77542
>>77540
>Pretty certain the closest winner he's presided over was Grimm
NSA has hosted every tournament both /co/ and /v/ since Mr. /co/lympus 2021.
No.77542
Anonymous
>>77540
Okay, I reread the first sentence and get what you mean, but point stands. I don't think we should just revoke winning status at this point, with Fang being the only real dubious one if I'm right. It's definitely going to sour the tournament results he's been over, however. The characters he's pushed might also be tainted to varying extents.

>>77541
People have gone over the results, and I thought Grimm had the weakest average of any major tournament winner starting off Grievous. Granted, rigging would muddy it a lot, but the point was more that most winners have generally been seen as largely favorable. Could argue Recette, yet I don't see any direct attachment between NSA and her.
No.77543
Anonymous
Replies:>>77545
>>77542
Never mind, forgot Wuya too. Didn't have any clear points of contention like you could dig up against Fang, but still has bias.
No.77544
Anonymous
Replies:>>77546
>>77542
>but the point was more that most winners have generally been seen as largely favorable
I have supported some of our latest winners and runner-ups, and while the notion of NSA being biased in their favor and potentially having rigged them would seriously sour my mood, I don’t think revoking their victory would help either.
No.77545
Anonymous
Replies:>>77553
>>77543
Didn’t OFA also push for both Wuya and Eris waaaaaay before we were close to the finale?
Aaaaah this whole discussion is only giving me a massive headache.
No.77546
Anonymous
>>77544
Same here. We've never revoked results in the past, and even if someone gave a masterful analysis on ONE tournament it's not going to feel right giving someone a retroactive victory without the usual fanfare. Hell, Ms. /co/ 2022 is acting as the main target here, and it's hard to say who would even take the place of Fang. Chel would have to be given a hindsight pass on two rounds while Shirley would just be baffling. Best course would likely be to just say there's no definitive winner and keep Fang banned, but that's not really changing anything from just saying she won a dubious tournament.
No.77547
Anonymous
Replies:>>77549
Image:170363542649.png(171kB, 514x680)1699253848272329.png
>mfw NSA intentionally screwed over muffet and claimed the outdated numbers were an "accident" as a coverup
No.77549
Anonymous
Replies:>>77551
>>77547
How much do you wanna bet this person was NSA posting without his trip
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/659866181/#659887751
No.77550
Anonymous
Replies:>>77555
>>77542
>but point stands. I don't think we should just revoke winning status at this point
We couldn't revoke it even if we wanted to. The tournaments are long over.
>but the point was more that most winners have generally been seen as largely favorable
While not a winner, people loved Brisby and pitied her after finding out she was rigged. With how poorly Villainous does, if OFA is NSA, she knows she can't just declare anyone the winner. The picks have been popular enough and had reasons to be justified without suspicion. They could still be rigged by a lot.
No.77551
Anonymous
>>77549
Sorry, that was me.
No.77552
Anonymous
Replies:>>77568
Wasn't Fang one of the most hyped powerhouses ever? Prior to NSA running tourney's she got 3rd in 2020 and just narrowly lost to the eventual winner. I find it hard to believe she didn't actually win against Desiree of all characters. And you'd have a hard time convincing people she retroactively didn't win. The Chel swap controversy certainly didn't. "Underdogs" like Wuya, Recette, and Grimm would be way easier to revoke.
No.77553
Anonymous
Replies:>>77564
>>77545
I feel it's more likely that NightShift would simply know Onlyfans rather than be one and the same. There's several reasons I could say this. A prime case is that OFA has pushed several girls specifically despite NSA claiming to mainly care about Mr. /co/. Could argue that's the one he sees as the "serious" /co/ tournament in terms of varied campaigning, but even then you can't pull much against Zorak or Skeletor here. We don't have good archive of his potential art, but how close IS that Black Hat and Zim art to what we know for sure was Onlyfans? Hell, I only see two Black Hat art pieces on their DeviantArt with some clear similarity at that. It's nothing compared to this person's clear favorites.

Keep in mind that Erikafag was trying to frame mapanon as the same person too. I do think there's some clear fuckery here, but direct connections are largely theorizing here. The most cohesive point out of all this is that we outright have several of NightShift's contacts now and that one of them ties to him likely doing art during the tournaments he's hosted. We don't know whether that's actually affected the results or not, exactly how much consent the other hosts had over all these results (i.e. was it really JUST him or not), and just how much art is him.
No.77554
Anonymous
>>77538
>NSA not only turns out to be OFA, but also turns out to be a rigger
With everything NSA has pulled in the past, I believe these two things are not mutually exclusive.
No.77555
Anonymous
>>77550
Again, while I firmly believe NSA and OFA are the same individual I don’t think they are manipulating the results. Or at least I don’t think they have the ability to complete manipulate the outcome of every tourney. If that were the case, Zim would have beaten Skeletor.
No.77556
Anonymous
>>77555
NSA's rigging was only enough to bring him to finals. Optimus died by his hand clearly, it was only a 10 vote difference!
No.77557
Anonymous
>>77555
That's not to mention that Zim had more active thread support, so it wouldn't have been entirely unbelievable. Could argue Wuya being Toph by a similar margin to Eris over Raven was surprising considering the difference in scale there, yet at the same time people have also thrown this person being the Bayonetta artist despite her having a similar blowout to Roll this year. While I do think some scrutiny is warranted here, there's also a lot of nuances here that make me skeptical on this direct shot theory.
No.77561
Anonymous
Image:170363647090.png(114kB, 500x507)1575269202790.png
I don’t like to repeat myself but we can simply ask Black Hand to verify if any of the posts quoted in >>77457 came from the same person.
No.77564
Anonymous
>>77553
>but how close IS that Black Hat and Zim art to what we know for sure was Onlyfans? Hell, I only see two Black Hat art pieces on their DeviantArt with some clear similarity at that. It's nothing compared to this person's clear favorites.
From what we have here, the last Mr. /co/ magma that hasn’t been wiped has art of Betty Boop, Grievous, Black Hat and NSA done by Onlyfans just going off artstyle.
>>76990
>>76992
No.77567
Anonymous
Remember the confusion over Goo from Foster's Home ending up qualifying as high-mid seed this year? Well. Uh.
https://www.deviantart.com/onlyfansart/art/First-date-961051832
No.77568
Anonymous
Replies:>>77724
>>77552
A lot of people hate fang and have been reaching for EVERYTHING they can to delegitimize her
No.77569
Anonymous
>>77485
I still want to hear what they have to say. We need to know her side before we jump to conclusions like Erikafag.
No.77570
Anonymous
Replies:>>77577
Image:170363802002.jpg(106kB, 823x858)ABB7CEC0-ED66-4AE6-A682-DE536C00BF79.jpeg
>if NSA actually rigged the tournaments, it would delegitimize my main’s win
Hoping to any deity that’ll listen that it’s not the case, because fuck me, I may never participate in any tournament ever again if this is indeed true.
No.77571
Anonymous
Replies:>>77572
Video:170363806902.webm(1.14MB / 0:00:05 / vp8, 1280x532)1681920205755350.webm
>>77569
>her
No.77572
Anonymous
>>77571
Kek, but still.
No.77573
Anonymous
Replies:>>77576
>>77569
What can they even say? NSA and OFA are actually siblings and they happen to share the same Discord account?
I want to remain skeptical, but what refutation could there be.
No.77576
Anonymous
Replies:>>77579
>>77573
In the era we're living in, it's easy to destroy someone's reputation when there is a reasonable explanation that isn't obvious. I've seen it before.
No.77577
Anonymous
Image:170363866241.gif(1.62MB, 354x416)1522564975207.gif
>>77570
Same here. I drew some Grievous prior to him winning and I am beyond confused right now.
No.77579
Anonymous
>>77576
>implying NSA has any reputation left to destroy
No.77582
Anonymous
Replies:>>77584
Image:170363912574.jpg(50kB, 702x960)1510795162416.jpg
I'm not entirely sure what's going on either but I hope it ends in NSA not being a host for next year
We have plenty of available competent hosts now anyways we don't need that faggot anymore
No.77584
Anonymous
Image:170363942301.png(96kB, 267x275)comic-excerpt-open-the-window-luthor-jla-earth-2-1999-v0-9s2a6lflz17c1.png
>>77582
>competent hosts
You see, that's the part of the problem.
Hosts from what we've seen are now all capable of hosting tournaments, balls even being on par with NSA prior to his departure.
What concerns me is the way he contacts the mods.
We still literally have no clue how the hosts manage to make a deal with the mods to allow them to host in the boards. The jannies and mods literally want the tournaments nuked off 4chan, being the utter embodiment of faggots that they are.

We still have absolutely no fucking clue what type of ritual they create to make the mods comply. Yeah, contacting we know, look what happened when Temp did it.
No.77585
Anonymous
>>77584
>We still have absolutely no fucking clue what type of ritual they create to make the mods comply.
Plot twist: it's all bullshit.
No.77588
Anonymous
>>77561
Well?
No.77589
Anonymous
Image:170363977682.jpg(4kB, 130x149)zs.jpg
>>77457
*blink* I agree with Grievous right here >>77561 we have to make sure this gets Black Hand's attention first.
No.77591
Anonymous
Replies:>>77593
>>77584
It's simple, they just say they are hosting this event over a timer of one week, be polite and don't act like hostile or autistic spurges and try to force them into every single issue
Which is something /tnt/'s users cannot do themselves, see the TTT autist or everyone screaming about "couping"
No.77592
Anonymous
Image:170364001651.jpg(83kB, 560x315)1702679483228591.jpg
I know I am possibly pointing out the most retarded opinion at being a detective but why not contact someone like Silveranon? He's a psychologist isn't he? Can't he just like, know the pattern of how someone writes and deduce who's who?
No.77593
Anonymous
>>77591
It can't be that easy.
No.77594
Anonymous
>>77584
Is mod approval really the only thing standing in the way of new main hosts? I recall a bunch of people wanting to run the tourneys in 2022 but NSA still being voted to stay as basically "the evil you know," which is something NSA has rode on since. And even if mod approval wasn't an issue I feel like it'd need feedback from the other hosts for a change of power of happen. NSA just kind of seems default the main guy.
No.77595
Anonymous
>>77592
I doubt Silveranon is around plus4chan right now.

>>77593
Random anons have made tournament threads when the hosts were missing without being struck down by the mods.
No.77596
Anonymous
Image:170364045823.png(836kB, 1315x1016)TDs.png
>>77592
>NSA gets daily dosed by Silver
I'm all for it
Kritikal - Green and Purpleyoutube thumb
No.77597
Anonymous
Replies:>>77602
>>77593
Not 100%, there's a chance you get some cranky one on a bad day or against it. But they are actual people and react well to kindness, especially since they the majority of the time deal with autistic spurge who don't know how to socialize and harassing them
See Psyanon responding to them vs whoever the Tag Team person was (Tempanon? I forget) who responded so badly he got perma-banned. That's a clear night and day of discussing with a moderator
No.77598
Anonymous
Image:170364099853.png(243kB, 3683x752)nsa post.png
>>77530
I think this is the post you're referring to about Fang and Desiree. He didn't say Fang was losing like you thought, it's still mostly him talking about the furry riggers
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132943000/#132944427
No.77601
Anonymous
Man it's hilarious to see the Shirley rigger Discord still seething over Fang (who was already a popular pick for unusuality alongside season 2 just airing) and trying everything to delegitimize her
I really wish someone would just post a invite to their Discord so we could laugh at how desperate they were for their pet pick (and likely in-server meme) to get far because it's becoming so far obvious at this point
No.77602
Anonymous
>>77597
>whoever the Tag Team person was (Tempanon? I forget) who responded so badly he got perma-banned.
It's still hilarious how he showed up at the end of Tag-Team but immediately left once the topic of him talking with the mods came up.
No.77604
Anonymous
Image:170364251833.jpg(117kB, 852x657)d32.jpg
*blink* Sacrificing Kane to the eldritch gods unless Black Hand comes and stops the ritual.
No.77605
Anonymous
Replies:>>77607
>>77601
trip on nightshift
No.77607
Anonymous
Replies:>>77608
>>77605
>You're posting on a place where Black Hand can wreck him and his Discord pals
Would be cautious about continuing the anti-fang shitflinging
No.77608
Anonymous
>>77601
>>77607
Don’t make this about Fang, many other characters' reputation could be at stake here.
No.77610
Anonymous
Replies:>>77615
Image:170364404171.png(589kB, 870x848)concerned fang.png
>>77608
I mean the one who was vocally butthurt about Fang back then was itoddler spamming the asterisks. A valid point for Fang's criticism is how she had the high ground thanks to her show airing at the time.
>Don’t make this about Fang, many other characters' reputation could be at stake here.
I'm willing to wait and see if we can proceed with everything people have gathered here but I have to mention too I feel it's weird how NSA just stopped coming here when even he knows this is the place he can be in contact with people to announce anything beforehand.
No.77611
Anonymous
Replies:>>77617
Where are Black Hand and Silveranon when we most need them.
No.77615
Anonymous
>>77610
I wonder why he quit coming here entirely too. Maybe the constant barrage of criticism.
No.77617
Anonymous
>>77611
And when the world needed them most... They vanished.
No.77618
Anonymous
>>77584
The other hosts all have the greenlight from the mods evidently so again, NSA isn't necessary in that department.
Also posts in King of /v/ from a guy who talked to the mods about needing permission to post indicate that the mods actively do not want to be asked for permission to create threads, which in that case NSA doesn't even have the illusion of necessity.
NSA has certainly been an interesting character but I do believe he has outlived his usefulness by this point. The other hosts have proved more than capable to run things.
No.77619
Anonymous
Replies:>>77622
>>77608
Yeah just look at all the characters OFA has drawn art of on their DA account, there's plenty of reasons to be worried about this that doesn't involve Fang.
No.77620
Anonymous
Image:170365637484.jpg(40kB, 414x414)1702450495286402.jpg
>>77567
Out of curiosity I decided to compare 2023 with this character's other qualifier results
>2018, 2019, 2022: not nominated
>2020: 405th (42/78)
>2021: 368th (46/77)
>2023: 29th (136/89)
The sudden increase in qualifier votes is strange, especially considering I don't recall there being any extra hype around her this year. Perhaps the esteemed NightFansAnon decided it was unfair one of his favorites hadn't qualified yet and decided to sneak her in?
No.77621
Anonymous
Replies:>>77624
>>77620
If that isn’t the most suspicious jump in performance then I don’t know what is.
No.77622
Anonymous
Image:170365789780.jpg(46kB, 720x540)1e470cd0c2579accb6322471b5180b49.jpg
>>77619
>i was a huge midnafag in 2022
>mfw her win could be permanently ruined because NSA/OFA is a chicken bone sucking nigger who can't help but rig his picks because they "deserve" it after all the effort he put into their OC
If this turns out to be confirmed NSA will live to regret it is all I'm saying
No.77623
Anonymous
Replies:>>77625
>>77622
But OFA's DeviantArt specifically points out they rooted for GLaDOS before they did anything for Midna, and both characters went up against Hornet in semifinals and finals respectively. The only way Midna could have possibly been rigged in this context is if it was done in a way to fuck over Hornet for beating GLaDOS or something like that.
No.77624
Anonymous
>>77567
>>77620
>>77621
It's a good thing she went up against Alex in the first round of all people. I do wonder what could happen if she did beat her.
No.77625
Anonymous
Replies:>>77627
>>77623
>Let Hornet win so she can be rigged against in Finals and suffer the runner-up curse
No.77626
Anonymous
Replies:>>77628
>>77620
I don’t know of how much relevance this could be, but I found the original /co/ thread where that drawing was posted.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/135801164/#135833614
No.77627
Anonymous
Replies:>>77628
>>77625
Wait a moment, the Queen 2022 semifinals poll was open. That means there could have been no vote deletion here.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRK_HfAgS0lYRFpizWoYqnfnMED291xbOEhzZrhXRy98A0AQ/viewanalytics
No.77628
Anonymous
Replies:>>77629
>>77626
>NSA only starts drawing goo in 2023
>that's the year she suddenly gets an extremely inflated qualifier count
Hmm...
>>77627
Well, yeah. He said that he let Hornet win Semifinals not that he rigged it for Hornet. Finals is the round where the poll was not open.
No.77629
Anonymous
>>77628
>He said that he let Hornet win Semifinals not that he rigged it for Hornet.
Yeah, that’s why I’m pointing it out. It makes sense that if we are going to theorize he intentionally let Hornet win the match, there would be no vote manipulation from his part for the semifinals.
No.77630
Anonymous
Image:170366047485.png(347kB, 578x469)1683842810977236.png
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/618682194/#q618686301
>"GLaDOS drawfag here for the watercolor. I lost my main girl. Now I'm going to back Midna. She's my final hope. I will be creating something for her now. Midna bros you gotta campaign as hard as you can"
No.77631
Anonymous
Replies:>>77632
i joked about how the hosts drew smear art, kinda insane
No.77632
Anonymous
No.77633
Anonymous
Image:170366211173.png(202kB, 537x663)A lonely ghost.png
>>77622
Same here. I still believe OFA isn't NSA but...
No.77634
Anonymous
>still trying to slander Nightshift
For what purpose? You're not accomplishing anything.
He got away with blatantly lying to everyone about the Mrs. /co/ 2023 results
The fellow host aren't gonna do anything about it
Jannies certainty aren't going to do anything
He won.
No.77635
Anonymous
In retrospect, giving so much power to a single anon over the sheets was a very foolish move. I didn't use to believe this, but Stats might have taken the best possible approach towards rigging.
No.77637
Anonymous
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>>77634
No.77638
Anonymous
Replies:>>77639
>>77634
I agree. There's been constant complaints about this guy for years. No one does shit and nothing ever happens and he's almost certainly not gonna read or care about anything said in this thread. He just has to step down himself.
No.77639
Anonymous
>>77638
Thing is those complaints were founded on NSA being an incompetent retard; people always would say "well he's a shit host but at least he's not actively malicious like numnuts or the 2018 rigger host". Hell that was my mindset until this started coming to light. But now that it's starting to be revealed that he is in fact an actively malicious rigger I'd like to believe things could change. Have some hope, anons.
No.77640
Anonymous
Replies:>>77644
>>77639
These have been some pretty major implications and calling him a confirmed rigger nigger isn't right yet. The only solid suspicious thing is his discord being linked by OFA. The rest is speculation. Funny thing is we probably won't get any closure on this at all cause NSA himself doesn't come here anymore and probably won't speak again anywhere until next September.
No.77641
Anonymous
Replies:>>77642
Image:170366530632.jpg(257kB, 1169x1021)God complex.jpg
>>77639
>"well he's a shit host but at least he's not actively malicious like numnuts or the 2018 rigger host". Hell that was my mindset until this started coming to light.
I was on the same boat; that NSA was just misguided and too much of a stickler, which is only a flaw of competence not of character.
But now that I look back at it, and having read some of his oldest posts, I realize the guy is beyond childish. I'm willing to bet all his talk about having an incredibly demanding job is just a front. This guy gives off massive NEET vibes.
No.77642
Anonymous
Replies:>>77643
>>77641
He mentioned some weird details before that seemed to imply he had a strict job working for the fed/military.
No.77643
Anonymous
Replies:>>77645
>>77642
Didn't he mention having a signal jammer? I want to call bullshit.
No.77644
Anonymous
>>77640
The other hosts do, though. Coayynon and Samaritanon are hosting Tag-Team on January 5th, and Samaritanon is also helping Cumslut host a colors tournament. Could always ask them and maybe get them to contact NSA if you really want answers from him; preferably after Tag-Team because they're going to need to focus on that plus so it doesn't get derailed.
No.77645
Anonymous
Replies:>>77646
>>77643
Yeah, and that his job would get him thrown in prison if he gave information to foreigners, and that he wears a uniform and has to drive long hours everyday to his job in a remote location.
Don't know why'd he'd bullshit about all that other than larping a fantasy lol. The long drive stuff may have been made up to excuse for being away so long after the LB vote fraud last ms. though.
No.77646
Anonymous
Replies:>>77647
>>77645
Look, I refuse to believe a person who is so incompetent he can't make a simple Google search to confirm the viability of videogame character, let alone one who gives this much of a fuck about running a yearly character tournament on a Camboadian frog breeding forum, holds an important governmental position.
No.77647
Anonymous
>>77646
Clearly he does a bad job running tourneys cause he’s so preoccupied with glowie ops. Of course that begs the question why the fuck he’d be wasting time running tourneys then.
No.77648
Anonymous
Yeah, I’m starting to wane on parts of this theory. One of the main catches for me is that this all implies NSA is way more competent than you’d believe from some of his previous fuck-ups. There’s some annoying holes here and a lot of it hingles on NSA and OFA actually being the same person.
No.77649
Anonymous
>>77648
Elaborate
No.77650
Anonymous
>>77648
I don't think NSA/OFA is a rigger for the same reason as you, but I'm not going to leave out the possibility they are the same person when there are a few things that could only be explained by that scenario.
No.77651
Anonymous
Should we make a new thread?
No.77654
Anonymous
Replies:>>77655
all aboard the new thread
>>77653
>>77653
>>77653
No.77655
Anonymous
Replies:>>77657
>>77654
Based, I hope Shakara qualifies next year.
No.77657
Anonymous
>>77655
He won't.
No.77723
Anonymous
Image:170370370675.gif(477kB, 398x498)Popcorn.gif
>>77567
THE PLOT THICKENS
No.77724
Anonymous
>>77568
Man I fucking love Fang as a huge Primalfag, hell I'm one of the few people to actually be okay with the ending. My other main that year was Mrs Brisby, but that was the friendliest match of the tourney so it's all good