/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>93412
sexooo

This is the better one

>>93428
They wanted him to be "unique" and "original"

>>93403
The only ms. character that could've realistically had the potential to do it is 2019 Spinel. Maybe Jenny but hard to call first year strength.

>>93430
>Him
That's just about as much of a guy as NSA is

I really wish we got Chel vs fang so the silentfag cheltards could be BTFO in a big way. Shoving a paper in your pooper isn’t OC or campaigning

WHAT THREAD DO I FUCKING GO TO.

>>93442
Yotsuba

DTVACHADS stay winning

>>93439
>>93442
Just what I was thinking. None in /co/ or /v/ but I can think of a handful of /a/ characters that would probably get that backing.
Fuck I wish /a/ mods weren't such faggots.

>>93445
Yeah what I said, Silver losing to Ice King in round 2 last year.

>>93439
To have the hype and campaign of Fang and Batter they should be unquestionably well-liked and receive a lot of support.
To have the pre-existing silent power of Chel and Kiryu you should be a well-established character that has a very loyal fanbase albeit if its silent and it is universally loved for one reason or another.
To have the rigger legion of the Spinel, you need to have someone who pity enough and fans that are retarded enough to follow suit.

There's barely a few characters left that fill all these three definitions. In /a/ however I can name dozens.

>>93448
Fang isn’t well liked

>>93450
Yeah sure thing champ.

>>93445
Scrooge getting cucked out of the E8 twice in a row.

>still no pastebin

>>93463
That bitch knows what she's doing
Genuinely how the fuck do we just up and blackmail her for a confession

>>93463
>>93464
I think that's just a repost.

New stealth thread (it didn't start that way, but it's one now)
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/141849213

>>93473
>https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/141849213
Man I hate NSA's guts but we should NOT go and invade completely unrelated threads, that's how you get these tourneys permabanned retards

Just kick her out. Simple as.
No big Mystery Diners-ass sting operation to reveal her true form or whatever. Just don't let her touch Mrs. /co/ when it comes around.

That Foster's image is a repost from last year so not NSA, check desuarchive before you freak out someone posts OFA

>>93481
Honestly Goo is such awful taste they kindof deserve a freakout just for that

>>93483
Are you dissing Ms /co/ 29th seed Goo?

>>93485
Higher seed than Starfire, Lois Lane, and Loona btw.

>>93493
Riggoo

It is a shame that such a good artist had to go and ruin her tournament reputation like this. If she hadn't bothered trying to smear other picks, this all would have presumably not come to light or at least not for far longer.

>>93497
All because she had to go and have a Chernobyl level melty over a cartoon dog beating Bayonetta

The lesson from every tournament I have seen is if you want to be a campaigner or participate/roleplay you should not be hosting nor be allowed to host
The more invested you are into the results the less quality of a host you'll be

>>93500
And also important lesson, don't be an asshole
Being liked helps
Being hated doesn't

>>93497
I don't give a shit about NSA as a drawfag I give a shit about NSA the awful host who has been ruining tournaments for the last two years. Also NSA the drawfag still hasn't delivered on that Wuya porn animation and never will so both as a host and a drawfag NSA is a colossal faggot. Though I do find it very funny all those drawings NSA spent so much time and effort on will be forgotten in favor of the shitty muzzle images
Also I'd like to say that if people leaking this shit into unrelated threads is any indication it's that things are going to get much, much worse the longer it takes for NSA to be officially removed as host. It's only been a month since this started, imagine how much worse it'll get like 5 months from now if NSA STILL hasn't been removed by the other hosts, I kind of feel like there won't even be any tournaments left for NSA to host by that point desu

>>93502
Just have anyone with enough free time host this shit that isn't Temp, Numnuts or Ghost. Hosting is easy, the real problem comes that not many of us have time to take the role. That's why it takes two.

>>93504
On second thought Megatron and Muffet should be swapped

>>93504
What is Shirig doing here?

>>93506
Destroyed NSA's credibility, NSA STILL has to seethe about it and call her "third place"

>>93506
After everything we have seen Shirley may as well be another victim of NSA's bullshittery.

The fact she contradicted herself about Nicole should be taken into account too.

The biggest melty is /tnt/ users when NSA does anything

>>93502
we need some kind of ultimatum, and get the other hosts to back it up
i say give him until valentine's day. if there still isn't a pastebin by then, he's getting sacked. do not pass go, do not collect $200.

>>93508
>>93509
No matter how bad Nightshit is acting Shirley was rigged, was the most blatant rigging job in tournament history and nothing changes or will change that.
Any of the other hosts could probably come here right now and tell you that directly as they did then

>>93512
>other hosts
Such as? Coayynon and Samaritanon weren't there. Ballsanon I don't recall and Ghost is just NSA's bootlicker.

>>93512
trip on NSA

>Source: Nightshift: dude, trust me?

Funny how we all rightfully say Goo being a 29th seed was such a blatant false force-in by Nightshit, but if we imagined Goo made it to the finals with no tournament history after placing 450th the year before in the only nominations they've been in everyone would be screaming how fucked up it is, but yet that scenario happened with Shirley and fags ITT are still trying to pretend it was fully legitimate for whatever reason

>>93517
trip on NSA

>>93510
Trip on NSA.

>>93517
Saying Shirley wasn't rigged in any capacity is basically just pissing on NSA desu even if it wasn't the case
>>93518
To be fair NSA would never admit to Goo being rigged in

>>93507
Loona might be worth moving up a tier because of how much NSA brayed like a wild jackass over her even months after her posters insulted him

>>93517
Oddly, my gut tells me that Goo actually was some unrelated incident that slipped through the cracks. NSA seems to have a specific practice and method for getting what she wants out of the tournaments, and it mostly involves anonymous smearing of picks. Beyond that one mention by OFA, Goo just seems really random in general. The seed also almost feels TOO high to have been snuck into the bracket, least how I see it. Why would it not be in at least the lower half to lower suspicions?

This isn't to absolve her of everything else. Even with the qualifier results, I do suspect Livesey was deliberately given the push ahead out of sympathy whether Mr. Boss being left out was planned or simply ignored after the fact. I'm just talking about Goo here.

>>93507
King Kong should be added and possibly in scorching seethe.

>>93517
I never said Shirley wasn't rigged. Her run was nonsense too. Granted at least she was seeded in the 80's.

>>93522
The main suspicion about Goo arises from her, a fairly obscure character never getting close to qualifying before, sometimes not even being nominated, happening to be one of OFA's subjects.

What I don't understand is why OFA would draw Goo of all characters when she was one of the worst characters on Foster's Home.

>>93504
>>93507
Where's King Kong?

>>93528
I really want someone to go back and dig up the evidence he gave for Brisby apparently being rigged round one. That was the big argument for her still being tainted even this past year, and yet I only vaguely remember that coming up towards the end of Ms. /co/ 2022 when it happened.

>>93504
>>93507
Add Gardevoir

>>93527
Anon that's faggy.

>>93523
>>93529
King Kong should be in a lower tier since NSA drew art of his avatar OC getting raped by King Kong, so it was less NSA seething over King Kong and more using screwing over King Kong just to make fetish art out of it

>>93532
You must admit though it would be funny if it happened

>>93534
That feels a bit much.

>>93527
>>93534
Sticks, shouldn't you be getting ready for /cov/ with Sam?

>>93529
I can't really add King Kong for the reason
>>93533
gave, I don't think she's even mad about King Kong I think she just wants BBC art of her made with him. That doesn't seem like anger, that feels more like sexual roleplay the voterbase has to suffer for.

>>93531
I remember there was a bunch of bullshit with Gardevoir getting screwed out of the Elite 8 in pretty much the exact same way Muffet was, but I can't recall Garde actually doing anything that would make NSA mad. Unlike the hilarious Muffet >Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppppp
posts, which definitely would've pissed off NSA. If there's an archived post of NSA giving a reason to be specifically angry against her I'll gladly add her in.

>>93521
Loona's gotta be the hardest one to place. She definitely got REALLY mad about Loona during /v/ of all things, (Probably because Loona won /aco/ to huge praise after being a character to give NSA a ton of shit in /co/) but I don't remember her getting mad enough about her to actually make art about it. The top 4 all had Nightshift angry enough to specifically make art spiting them (Elite 8 chart with incorrect Shirley placement, Zim denying Skeletor a girlfriend, AM being raped, Ammy's muzzles)
Top two also got her to continually seethe AFTER their relevant tournaments ended, which I don't think really happened with anybody else to such an extent besides Loona. BUT, she didn't actually MAKE anything tormenting Loona or depicting her unfavorably, or we would've seen it be endlessly debated like the muzzle stuff. Personally speaking as a drawfag, going to the trouble to make seethe art is a completely separate degree than just bitching about them after the fact. I mean people complain about Spinel and Recette a lot, but that's not the same level as the muzzle. Right now in the middle along with Curly and Fang seems to be the best option, making an entire tier for one character seems a bit ridiculous.
I don't want to seem stubborn though, that's just my reasoning. Once there seems to be good consensus of where characters should go I'll make a higher-quality chart because it's fun

>>93547
I need context about Curly, how did she make NSA so mad?

>>93551
Curly supporters criticized the handling of the losers bracket/post-finals matches by the hosts which caused NSA to make posts whining about said Curly supporters and saying Curly is boring and had no campaign
In the end NSA having a melty over a character all comes back to said character's supporters saying mean things about his hosting

>coper's bracket

I don't get why people hate loser's bracket so much.

>>93557
Less that and more the execution, with NSA’s reactions making it for worse. Hell, she was the one who was against just moving onto the grand finals instead of doing the losers’ finals.

>>93557
It's kind of a pointless concept beyond maybe some drawfags generating more oc (which is probably a main reason why OFA pushed it so much). I'm fine with it as an optional side thing like in the last Mr. /co/. It shouldn't be some forced main poll thing with crown steal though.

>>93565
>If there's an archived NSA/OFA post that follows her usual writing style such as "God Damn. Hornetfags are having melties. They're the golden cows of /tnt/."
I at least don't remember such thing taking place even after having scoured the archives while sleuthing. It's very probable she seethed, but she kept it to herself. Now I wonder, since AM vs Wesker happened that same year, just one tournament after Queen, would that match have been the breaking point for her when it came to openly smearing characters who beat her Elite Eight mains?

>>93530
I think it's important to remember that ALL of NSA's rigging claims came about from duplicate votes. She was pretty blunt about detecting cheating by deleting duplicates and looking at what characters would lose without them. Which is very, very far from what I would call a verifiable and accurate method.

>>93568
It seems to be. And what an escalation in seethe, at that. She went from "obnoxious and pigheaded" to "the biggest asshole of the threads that MULTIPLE anons blow the absolute fuck out of with facts and logic, but she's still seething"
Wesker losing because drawing your opponents as female furry porn isn't a very good campaign strategy seriously mindbroke her, and she hasn't recovered from it since

>>93563
I wish this amount of thought was put into the other group projects like suffering and power charts.

>>93571
Suffering charts are still WIP and they involved far more characters so we can polish them in time and change some placements around eventually.

>>93570
>Wesker losing because drawing your opponents as female furry porn isn't a very good campaign strategy seriously mindbroke her
Funny because the quarterfinals was the only round in the tournament where she had to draw Wesker in other contexts and couldn't just resort to the genderbending gimmick. I remember specifically one of those Misato posts calling Wesker's campaign lame before the round was over, maybe she took that comment very personally.

>>93563
I feel like Megatron should be higher since his shit caused the whole same name = same character shit that happened in Queen and King

>>93576
Which is fucking stupid anyway since the /co/ tournaments have always used a generalization statute, which shouldn’t apply to the Megamans and Rolls.

>>93563
All these characters? My HEROES.

>>93578
and Fang

Surely digging up all this shit on NSA has been entertaining and quite revealing, but outside of her finally stepping down for good what do we expect out of this going forward? If the hosts are going to let us see the raw voting sheets of past tournaments and it turns out NSA effectively rigged out certain characters or even ignored instances of actual cheating when it was convenient to her it's inevitably going to leave a dent in the tourneys. Like that anon said, Captain America rigging on crack.

>>93583
I hope the ramifications of The Fall of NSA are just limited to smaller scale shit like 29th seed Goo or Muffet/Gardevoir getting rigged out of E8 instead of big high profile matches like if Zim was rigged to win against Optimus, or Midna against Hornet, or Wuya against Toph
Genuine Wuya supporters have already been hurt enough by this we don't need to add more characters to the list of NSA's victims

Coayy alluded to NSA harboring dislike towards /tnt/ in previous instances, at what point would she have mentioned something like that during communication meetings with the other hosts?

>>93583
We can prevent extreme cases like a Spinel at least because those can be seen from kilometers away if they’re rigged or not.

>>93589
>frozen
>in Summer
Damn rat wizards.

>>93591
>Posted from inside of Jiren's belly

>>93592
FATren...

>>93592
OBESEren…

>>93445
The only The Bad Guys character who has qualified for a Mr or Ms /co/ is Ms. Tarantula

>>93596
Still wild this happened over the main two.

>>93596
Spideranon rigged it. I'm sure of it.

>>93588
She was able to hide her seethe then by just saying it was her two mains, so people didn't really think much of it at the time. I remember there was a Benson supporter that was pretty sore over him losing to Skeletor, but I don't know if they were a drawfag and would be sore enough to join in on that. I doubt something like that will happen again now that Magmas are more SHIT and FINISHED than Johanna and Jack Frost combined.

>>93599
I do hope the tile art continues even without them because that is a creative and fun collaborative thing that anyone can really host themselves

>>93600
Someone on here said that they would keep it up

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/656762315/#656762374
KEK. It's really funny how prescient and some of the responses to this post were.

>>93601
Based that’s something that should continue

>>93603
>fucking nobody trusted NSA

>>93608
>There are people that actually seethe over Nia
Absolutely ridiculous how assmad some people get over the most inoffensive characters.

>>93586
If she disliked it already imagine now that BH gave out info about her

>>93445
An obvious one: how in the FUCK did JJJ not even qualify?

>>93608
Being blunt, way too obscure to make a major tournament. I had no idea who this was pre-TTT and still not fully

>>93445
Benson being among the top 10 seeds in 2023 after years of being a midcarder was fucking weird.

>>93614
I chalked it up to OC of him being chosen to be one of the OP images and the relatively low qualifier votes. It’s still weird in hindsight.

>>93608
I didn't had high expectations of her having any success in the tournament but it didn't stop me or others from trying anyway, all that matters is fun above else. Also keep in mind that the vast majority of characters who are either in the E8 or champions are mainstream, so don't ever think she'll ever get anywhere close to E8.
Oh, and considering the shitshow that's been going on, I'd say it's for the best.

>>93526
I don't think NSA has ever given a good motive as to why she likes the characters she likes besides "it makes me COOOOOOM".

>>93620
What would those actual reasons be, then?

>>93620
It’s staring to make sense why she seems to seethe the hardest over the male tournament results
Most anons aren’t voting with their dicks but on other factors for those tournaments and always have, so it doesn’t relate with why she enjoys characters which is how attractive they are

>>93606
Eh, considering NSA loves Livesey I wouldn't be surprised she obviously didn't want to put the blame on her for obvious reasons.
>>93607
To be fair in the show she hasn't that much development either. She's been so underused she almost feels like a one & off character. Not to mention Vivzie has wasted every possible chance to make her interesting or even both of her shows whatsoever.

Man, if what I'm hearing is true... poor Vinceposter.

>>93626
NSA doesn't like Livesey, the 2022 Mr. Boss qualifier swap incident had to be a genuine fuck-up from her part, I'm pretty sure. There's no evidence or examples of NSA expressing favoritism towards the character and out of all the artists who were part of his campaign last year, NSA wasn't one of them. I guess there's the funeral, but that was decided through GETs and you could tell the drawing itself barely wanted to be about the character.

>>93628
And Tag-team but that's just like an extra point. It would be funny if she also wins Ms. /trash/

>>93629
Yeah just saying I would take the accusations she made with a grain of salt considering what she said about Nicole. Now Shirley though she was undoubtedly accused right.

>>93631
If that ever happens I wouldn't be at all surprised if her and snoot Fang are the two heaviest hitters or the finalists if they're on separate brackets
Assuming 3D shit or anime doesn't clog the polls

>>93629
or about the funeral, like 4 characters are actually mourning and everybody else was just fucking around
Wedding chads stay winning

>>93634
Krystal or Marian could sweep too considering they're the veterans.

>>93637
True
It'd be fun to see the OG furries face off
Sabrina the Skunk is an OG when it comes to furries on the internet, but she's too obscure for modern tastes. I doubt she would even qualify. Also the comic went to shit when Zig-Zag was thrown in.

>>93637
Oh boy the Marian Nazi poster would have a field of a day

Vince x Kiryu when?

qrd on this vince business?

>>93650
>McMahon likes watching black men defile women
>McMahon is a scatfag
WWE is SHIT and FINISHED

>>93650
Court documents leaked revealing a bunch of degenerate shit about Vince like he's a BBC cuckold scat fag and has dildos named after wrestlers.

>>93629
“NSA doesn't like Livesey” isn’t the same as “there’s no evidence expressing favoritism” because that’s just a neutral stance, you’re however pushing it like they are a victim somehow because they are one of your picks
And on that, NSA does like big campaigns at the very least…

>>93662
>“NSA doesn't like Livesey” isn’t the same as “there’s no evidence expressing favoritism”
Fair enough, I should have worded that post better.
>And on that, NSA does like big campaigns at the very least…
I should mention that one of Livesey's artists was pretty active in the Magmas where NSA shared her contact, and knowing her modus operandi when it came to other artfags there's a good possibility she would have tried to push for an alliance à la Wuya-Eris going off campaigner sympathy. I definitely do remember a few posts attempting to hype up a Dr. Livesey vs Black Hat finale during Mr. /co/ last year, after all.

>>93671
I don't even really care for Livesey but that would have been the most one-sided stomp against Black Hat ever, lmao.

Who got more exposed this month NSA or the person from WWE

>>93671
>attempting to hype up a Dr. Livesey vs Black Hat
lol
Thankfully Mr. is more reasonable and about actual character worth.

>>93676
I couldn't see Black Hat ever getting past quarter-finals without BIG RIGS being involved, even in an hypothetical alternate timeline where we didn't expose NSA/OFA.

>>93681
I couldn't see Black Hat even making it to quarter-finals unless he had a piss-easy bracket full of silent triple-digit seeds

>>93678
Vince

>>93681
I can’t see Black Hat being considered one of the top voted 128 males out of 1500 without big rigs
Did he ever qualify before the current host

>>93685
He qualified in 2020 and 2021 but lost round 1 both times. 2023 was the first time he made it past round 1.

>>93687
Interestingly, last year he had JUST the amount of qualifier votes necessary to advance to the main bracket.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Mr._/co/lympus_2023#Advanced

>>93678
The metaphor of tourneys being booked wrestling events by the host just becomes more and more compelling.

>>93645
Based AEW CHAD

It is hilarious the Vinceposting hit its peak end of last year, considering the timing.

>>93445
Pacifica losing in round 3 for every tournament she’s been in
Which is every single Ms /co/ tournament since the first one. Round 3 exits for 6 straight tournaments.

>>93700
Probably the most consistent character in these tournaments.

>still no pastebin

>>93687
I sincerely don’t get it. It’s not even rigged since he was making it in when Stats was running it, but the guy is a literal who from a minor series who has qualified 3 times. There are many very popular or notable characters who have qualified less then him, and there’s a good chunk who are always voted 200-129 who haven’t made it once.
HOW does this guy keep getting qualified, who is voting for him (besides NSA) and why

>>93720
Unironically spics.
The show first aired in mexico and has gained notable fanbase there. It is among the most well-liked CN shows in mexico if I am not mistaken.

>>93722
The creator IS Mexican.

>>93722
I still like Demencia and vote for her tbh.

Naturally disagree with the post above

>>93724
Jessica should have been part of the e8 a long ass while ago

>>93678
NSA had a fuck ton of shit exposed on her but her fetishes weren't one of them, the best she's got is speculation on her fetishes since she seems to like it when we rape her (in OC)

>>93742
And honestly rape is vanilla as fuck and basically the most normal fetish in existence besides feet. Poop and BBC though? Horrible.

One has to wonder if the timing of this and RAW moving to streaming services is just coincidental.

>people will just blame the host (whoever it may be) of rigging their pick out if they lose
Ready for a new era of cope anons!

>>93752
>t. Vince

>>93612
I'm get the sense of entitlement from the JJJ fans, like he's supposed to just have an autobid due to past success. There's really two reasons why he didn't qualify
1. He supposedly wasn't near the other characters from his franchise in the poll, which might make some potential voters think he wasn't there.
2. Comic support has degraded rapidly since the tournaments began, a huge part of superhero fatigue. He was off for 2 years and that time can change a lot of voter opinions. Look at 2018 to now, we went from a lot of superhero reps and deep runs into the Elite 8 to Superman and Batman barely qualifying and no one else doing so. So JJJ's support might have naturally dwindled
I do think he'll be back this year but there are reasons he has fell in favor. This isn't a new development either, Mr Incredible had this fate before

>>93757
Not qualifying is understandable, but didn't he get only 8 votes? That seems REALLY low even when considering superhero fatigue, at the very least there's gotta be more than 8 /b/ or /tv/ fags voting that vote JJJ for the gif of him laughing that gets posted a billion times there

>>93757
I see where you’re coming from here, but JJJ was always a tournament favorite. The sheer extent he dropped off is still strange considering that. Peter Parker also has a decent track record even in the later years of Mr. /co/, despite not making Elite Eight to date.

>>93760
The 8 votes was Nyarly. JJJ got around 25, but that was still around a dozen below seed 128 in Mr. /co/ from what I recall.

>>93761
Oh shit, I forgot Nyarly gave NSA a melty as well, albiet a more minor one. Into the chart he goes!

So was anyone actually surprised that The Fall of NSA happened? It kind of seemed inevitable something like this would happen with how shady that nigger always was

>>93763
that was Domino he gave a melty too with the whole /pol/ boogeyman shit and her saying it possibly fucked up Spamton

>>93764
No, but it did surprise me to what an extent it was. I REALLY didn't expect NSA to seethe thread after thread about AM or Amaterasu, even though they really didn't do anything horrible. They're genuinely liked characters with legitimate fanbases on their boards, this isn't Jpeg Dog or Spinel beating your pick in a huge blowout and then gloating about it.
Ammy was even weirder considering Amaterasu fans were generally pretty kind to Bayonetta, often outright wishing her good luck. And both being Kamiya action games there's a lot of fan overlap, so it comes from a place of genuine love.

>>93757
He went from E8 to not qualifying next eligible run. And it's not as if it were a fluke run, he'd gotten E8 and deep runs before. And other comic characters still got in that he usually beats. So still kind of weird.