/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>455834
Forces is missed potential the sonic game

>>455836
wtf is sonics problem

https://the-ride.neocities.org/threads/140530271.html#140531858
Might be just me, but this image is corrupted, from what I can see.

>>455840
Thankfully only when expanded. When opened in a new tab it's fine. TP should be able to fix that easily.

Before yesterday's run, I actually thought Max and Lock knew each others, but no. Turns out the Brotherhood was in full hiding and it just happened that Max used the floating Islandas a second residence for vacation times.

I actually find this hilarious. So Sally really told no one about Knuckles, not even her family? It's like Knuckles was an imaginary friend for Sally...

>>455827
It kinda gives me the vibes that the comic is gonna go The Boys' route (the show, not the comics).

>>455831
>spoiler
Has the same vibe as when I'm looking up DIY tutorials and the motherfuckers just pull up a resin setup or power tools with no previous indication it was needed.

>>455845
Spaz gets praise because he was the best artist. yes his art could be wonky at times but he got way way better to make the most on model looking art there.

I was not expecting so much talk over Sonic Prime being Archie Sonic and not game Sonic.

>>455847
Really loving the phantom Brutus here conductor. Good choice, be sure to also send my compliements to the artists, they do good job on this!

>>455849
Thanks and I'll let him know!

>>455819
Claiming Spire, I can correct him!
>>455824
Nooo!
>>455827
Damn, Shadow Chaos Spear'd his arm clean off
>>455831
>spoiler
Damn, sorry to hear that. I absolutely hate the move from text-based tutorials to videos
>>455835
Really, they just needed a few more cutscenes, a Chaos battle with Classic Sonic, better classic physics (i.e., no speed cap), and better (and longer) level design
>>455840
Looks like the full image didn't download from desuarchive. I've fixed it now, thanks for letting me know!
>>455841
>When opened in a new tab it's fine.
That's because clicking on the image link opens the one from desuarchive, in case anyone wants the original

>>455842
Yeah, that's mostly us meming since they're both terrible xenophobic parents who make dumb decisions. That and that one artist shipping them made way too much sense
>>455844
>DIY tutorials
That's the worst. I get all psyched up to make something only to be disappointed I'm supposed to drop a ton of money on expensive tool I'll probably never use again
>>455845
Honestly I like that it's a bit weird and wonky in places, gives it a lot of charm
>>455848
Yeah, that was odd

>>455842
We haven't gotten to it yet but there is a panel showing Max and Locke talking in the past. I always assumed that was why Max went there. And in Sonic 44, Sally says she kept quiet to protect Knuckles because he wasn't supposed to talk to outsiders as part of his apprenticeship.

We've got some interesting new friends in the thread today. I honestly can't tell if they're bots or just schizos

>sonadow is trending
Of course it is. Prime has pretty much drowned out any Sonamy hints with Shadow just interacting with Sonic.

>>455859
>>455860
They all can share Tails

Top 10 rule34
>Rouge
>Amy
>Sonic
>Tails
>Blaze
>Shadow
>Cream
>Sally
>Vanilla
>Knuckles

It seems like Pixy is having a fucking psychotic break in the thread right now.

>>455830
I absolutely need Maria being just as unhinged as Eggman but still a good person.

>>455833
I mean, she's like 50 years old, so of course she does.

>>455839
I almost feel bad for Surge. Almost.

>>455857
He's too cute.

>>455861
Anyone sane knows nothing will come of it, but it's still really funny they're acting so feral over it when Shadow has made it clear he fucking hates Prime Sonic.

>>455865
You hate to see it!
>>455868
I try not to thirstpost too much about him since it's a real person's Sonicsona, but he's absolutely adorable!
>>455869
Pretty sure we can expect more Sonadow art
>Shadow has made it clear he fucking hates Prime Sonic
He's just tsun!

>>455871
>Not sure if it's Pixy since it seems poignantly lacking in malice.
Yeah, on second reading it's clearly someone having a rough time
>Sometimes the tsundere ain't a tsundere, sometimes they genuinely hate your guts!
B-but unhealthy one-sided Sonadow is a cornerstone of the genre!

>>455873
I just hope that, if it's real and not shitposting, whoever it is gets medical attention. Stuff like that makes me sad because all you can really do is sit and watch.

>B-but unhealthy one-sided Sonadow is a cornerstone of the genre!
Shit, you're right! Carry on then!

>>455860
Cut to Marine with Wendy's & Sticks with White Castle

>>455874
>I just hope that, if it's real and not shitposting, whoever it is gets medical attention. Stuff like that makes me sad because all you can really do is sit and watch.
Yeah, it's massively frustrating not being able to do anything, assuming it's real
>Shit, you're right! Carry on then!
One day we'll get an official same-sex romance, although it'll probably be Silver and some other twink
>>455875
Ha!

>>455847
Grave mistake to forget chipmunks can also be borrowing creatures...

>>455865
>It seems like Pixy is having a fucking psychotic break in the thread right now.
I think it is him because his last post was right at bump limit and then it stops. He's been known to eat up bumps to kill a thread faster. While it would be nice if it lasted for several more hours, it's not that big of a deal.

>>455878
Shoggothnic my beloved! Love how you were able to convey his happiness through his many eyes and mouths. Noxt an expert, but the shading looks great, and the underlighting and purple bits are a nice touch
>I've been recuperating my strength
Glad to hear that! I never seem to recognize the warning signs until I'm in the middle of one
>Incorporated some vitamins to my daily routine and already I'm seeing some improvement.
I really need to do that instead of just leaving them in the bottle
>>455879
I guess it could've been him. I did make some catty comments about his schizo-posting being low-effort lately

>>455853
>That's because clicking on the image link opens the one from desuarchive, in case anyone wants the original
Now that's useful.

>>455859
>Cream still get drenched anyway
I guess it's the gesture that count.

>>455878
>(AKA trying to beat a depressive slump)
Well, fuck. I Hope you pull it through.

Nice happy Sogothnic

I won't announce it yet but it seems I'm finally able to get the series to update twice a week. When page 23 is done, there will be a 10 page buffer. Thanks to the second artist, I can have them do some pages of the main series. The third artist could do a Knuckles series.
>>455878
That looks great! I've always found getting stuff done to a good way to get out of that funk. Less things to worry about and favorable results can lift a mood. Not to be dependent on something but coffee helps me get that bit of motivation to start working.
>>455880
>I guess it could've been him. I did make some catty comments about his schizo-posting being low-effort lately
I always think about why something is happening. And the fact it stopped when it did led me to believe it is the schizo.
>>455882
Being a gentleman helping in the slightest goes a long way for some girls.

>>455885
Thank you Conductor! Honestly if I'm dependent on anything beyond my silly little franchises about anthropomorphic animals it's definitely caffeine. I drink either coffee or matcha nearly everyday, lmao.

>>455887
Damn he shrunk her!

>>455881
Thanks! I should probably clarify that clicking on the image filename shows the desuarchive image. This is so readers can get an image that can be posted on 4chan since my expanded images are in avif format to save space (these avif images are on average 20% the size of the originals, it's pretty much magic)
>>455885
>I won't announce it yet but it seems I'm finally able to get the series to update twice a week.
Oh boy!
>The third artist could do a Knuckles series.
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>I always think about why something is happening. And the fact it stopped when it did led me to believe it is the schizo.
You'd think he'd realize he's saving us the effort of archiving the threads. Also, he needs to charge his phone, that's genuinely irritating me
>>455886
>Thank you! It was really fun making him look so happy. Despite the weirdness of the method used I really do like how it makes the shading look, I might use it again!
It's always nice to try a new technique, especially if it ends up working well
>Just like me fr fr. Didn't even realize I was in the middle of one until someone else came up to me and told me I looked like I was down. I gotta work on introspection to be able to notice one without help, honestly.
Yeah, these things sneak up so insidiously it's generally others that notice first. Frankly I need to hang up a big sign to remind me to check how messy the kitchen is since there's a 100% correlation there
>They're just perfectly tucked away, so easy to forget they're there unless you put them right in your line of sight 24/7.
Ha, that's it exactly! I'll have to try the gummies
>IDWkun took it to heart so deeply he broke his mind via tulpaforcing in order to show you he is good at it!
All part of my 99 step Kira-esque plan to mindbreak him into the perfect live-in servant! That's why maidposting is so important!

>>455885
Nice! Thats great news

>>455871
It might not be Pixy, but there was definitely some undirected hate with a couple of the posts. It was just mostly incoherent.

That guy having a schizo moment freaked me out ngl

Thoughts?
https://8chan.moe/fast/res/9068.html

>>455900
/slow/

>>455878
Cutie

>>455898
I came after the party and skipped most of it as white noise. What was the gist of it.

>>455878
Shoggothnic my beloved!

And yeah, I've been depressed for a while now - it gets even worse since it lets intrusive thoughts come easier. It's sometimes easy to ignore it, but for me, it never truly goes away.

>>455898
It could also just be a bot, some posters are literally not even people

>>455907
>some
At least 90% of /v/ is composed of bots at this point.

>tfw when most of /sthg/ doesn't give a shit about archie that much except archieschizo

>>455909
Is that schizophrenic spamming that place again?

>>455911
>>455912
lol, what a obsessed schizo

>Prime will be ending and have less episodes than Satam
wtf this can't be real

>>455914
That's what happens when a show gets sent to Netflix. Being on that service is essentially a death sentence.

>>455918
I hate forced tf. fuck that shit

>>455919
that's actually my favorite kind of TF, but I hate identity death. sonic here is the only saving grace.

>>455920
Identity death makes me actually mad too

>>455917
Look like Nicole is starting to run out of juice. Eh, it's fine, I kind of wanted to return to the Green&Red background.

>>455914
And barely anything happened in this last batch, at points it feels like is just mindless fight scenes for a plot that could be told in less time.

I like Prime Sonic as a cute himbo and how he makes oldfag Sonic fans seethe

>>455925
He's an idiot but an endearing idiot, rather have that than the "cool" inexpressive meat robot some fans want

Watching SatAM and I got to a part where the following happens
>Sonic: "I've been thinking..."
>Sally: "Oh, Trying something new are we?
I laughed so fucking hard. I love them. Speaking of that, just curious conductor, when did you first started to like sonally? The show or the comic first? Also care to deep dive on your love for their dynamic and why to make it so big part of your comic

>>455929
Mainly the comic. I just like how Sally interacts with Sonic. Very spicy and Sonic loves it. As for making it a big part of the comic, I just wanted to have romance along with action and Sally allows that.

>>455930
Cool and understandable

>>455900
I'm not caught up in the 8chan/8kun/8chan.moe drama but it's nice to see there are other imageboards interested in talking about the blue rat. I'll take a look around to see if there's any ideas we can use for our board. Oh, and they've got a fancomic thread too!
https://8chan.moe/fast/res/11131.html
>>455907
Fun fact, IDWkun got upset when I accused him of being a bot
>>455914
NO, I DEMAND A TIMESKIP EPISODE WITH NINE! I just want more WWMH Tails bros ;_;
>>455920
>>455921
Same
>>455925
I actually like him, even if his characterization is wildly different to other Sonics. He is borderline special needs though

imageboards need to be less dead

>>455934
I guess most people have moved on to social media, probably because it's more convenient and just as much of a hellscape as modern 4chan. It's a shame, since imageboards are such a comfy format

I fucking hate those sonic accounts in Twitter that keep asking questions like “which ship is better!” Etc. they keep fucking up me looking for fan art and I hate seeing them

>>455933
>https://8chan.moe/fast/res/11131.html
Went through the entire thread and we've storytimed all of them! They did suggest these links too:
https://www.deviantart.com/sonic-comic-artists/gallery/47831033/single-page-comics
https://www.deviantart.com/sonic-comic-artists/gallery/35253270/comedy
https://www.deviantart.com/sonic-comic-artists/gallery/26698638/horror
https://www.deviantart.com/sonic-comic-artists/gallery/48410585/sci-fi-horror

>>455927
>>455900
>same arguments
This can't be a coincidence

>>455940
?

>>455941
I mean it reminded of these anti satam threads on 4chan /co/ and of course that schizo.

>>455943
Ngl, Tails and Carrotia sound like a more fun duo than Tails and Cream

>>455932
>Boom Eggman is disgusted by the idea of having to eat his nemesis
He jut hat that hedgehog that much.

>>455947
Shadow is the worst, he's just a cancer on the entire franchise.

Even though there's not much left of the Knuckles series, I think I'll no longer start with any Knuckles issues and even save them for last. That won't help when Penders gets more active in the Sonic issues and continues his Knuckles stories in that.

Why did Penders think ripping off a holocaust poem was a good fucking idea? He derailed the comic so fucking hard with that offensive shit. I'm still kinda interested in some things but the comic quality just tanked there for me.

Randomly scrolled through Twitter for stuff and saw a person recommend your comic, conductor, when talking about fan projects to follow. That’s nice

>>455952
Penders has ambition but he lacks self awareness. He doesn't think how others will receive his work and he probably doesn't care. That's the kind of thinking that had him wanting to kill off Sally. His bigger problem is favoring his characters over the ones others have created. That's what I've noticed as the Knuckles series went on. Knuckles got sidelined and as someone else mentioned, the Chaotix barely do anything. They just stand around and talk but are nowhere around when the action kicks in. His narcissism is something else and it led to his downfall. If he worked on that then he'd still be writing for Sonic. Ian might have never gotten a chance to work for Archie. He could've even muscled Bollers out of the writing spot if he was really devious.

>>455953
Nice! That's always good to hear!

>>455950
>Well, he's been kicked off every other Sonic forum so why not there too

How fun it would be if he started posting here?

>>455958
Penders made enemies out of a lot of people but he was his own worst enemy. And now we're seeing the pushing of OCs in IDW. Funny how history repeats itself.

>>455951
I just think events that clearly take place in a series before the oens taking place in the other should be done first.

>>455959
He just cant help himself
>And now we're seeing the pushing of OCs in IDW. Funny how history repeats itself
I've advocated better character balance for comic originals and game characters but god, I just cant care for the idw characters. Diamond cutters suck with their new member, sheep tits, making it worse. And for diet scourge and her simp being a fucking disapointment and jokes that lost all their credibility as bad guys. What a giant fuck up.

>>455959
IDW can't really make their OCs relevant.
So much that it's actually detrimental to the comic.
The OCs are necessarily always going to be nobodies in the greater context of the series even inside the setting of the comics.
And they also can't ever have any meaningful interactions with a game character, to the point where two IDW minis revolve around OCs talking to each other and the other revolves around 2 game characters by themselves.

I'm almost sure that it's mostly a Sega thing rather than just IDW too, so I can't even blame them.

>>455960
We've gotten out of publication order quite a bit. For example, the Image crossover was done a lot earlier than when it was printed. We're also doing the Knuckles issues so their arcs aren't broken up by Sonic issues.
>>455961
In cases such as that, I place all the blame on the writers. It's obvious they have more freedom since the OCs don't have nearly as many restrictions but that doesn't excuse how badly they're written. At least Penders gets negative responses from some of his OCs while somehow writing some genuinely good characters. The IDW OCs generate some anger but then apathy.

>>455963
Its the writers fault for making surge change her motivation every other issue and get beaten to made out to be a joke even when sonic is weak and shes all powered up. What were they thinking. Also its a meme but actually true with whisper crying all the fucking time and being sad for tangle to be there too. And lanolin, she really is the geoffrey of the comic and makes it worse for existing.

>>455962
But look at Monkey Khan. He's got simple stories that likely wouldn't trigger any mandates and I find much more interesting. The last story we covered was all OCs. And it's drawn and written by someone I know nothing about. A good writer can work within restraints and whenever Ian and Evan get a chance to do so, they don't. I understand that they get screwed over here and there but some bad decisions they've made is obviously their fault. I'll happily blame SoJ for a lot of stuff but I'm not letting those two off the hook. You can also lay some blame on the editors as well.

>>455964
Imagine Lanolin getting really close to Amy and taking her on missions and Sonic starts feeling left out. Of course you can't have Amy and Lanolin making out in front of him but the comic has done romantic undertones so that could be done. And then Sonic and Lanolin fight for some reason, neither win, and Amy breaks them apart. Then Lanolin and Amy start hugging while Sonic is fuming.

>>455966
Kek

>>455965
>He's got simple stories that likely wouldn't trigger any mandates
I don't think you understand how bad Sega's autistic micromanaging can be, remember that Shadow had to be rewritten out of an arc where he was going to do nothing but sit down and watch a bunch of Chao doing tricks.

Also remember that this is a company that caused multiple others to go bankrupt before, including themselves.
Archie could casually give game characters their own families and love interests and have entire arcs made around those things.

I know our threads are mostly Archie fans but I don’t wanna seem like I entirely dislike idw for “not being muh Archie”. I gave it a reading as it’s own thing but I just don’t like what I read. Just boring stories and mid stories and awful shit like the eggperial arc made me actually quit giving a real fuck about it.. That along the classic pandering shit is genuinely tiring to keep seeing.

>>455968
>Shadow
But that's Shadow, the most notoriously heavily mandated character, not an original character like Monkey Khan is. He has his supporting cast and even villains. A better comparison would be the IDW original characters. The restrictions we know about would be not being able to beat Sonic or Eggman but when you have Iron King and Iron Queen then you don't have that problem. And that's another thing, killing off Starline really sucked. I also didn't like how he was so reliant on Eggman's tech, even when he was working on his own stuff. And then that 900th Adventure issue got rid of the Warp Topaz, as if saying Starline is never ever ever coming back.

Why do people enjoy Archie more than Satam?

>>455970
>He has his supporting cast and even villains
like who?

>>455971
For me its
>freedom fighters are more active
>better iteration of Robotnik
>more game elements
>more world building

>>455969
I do wonder how people who have very little exposure to Archie view IDW. I can see IDW's flaws without thinking about Archie. But what about others that have IDW Sonic as their first and only experience to the franchise in comic form?
>>455971
SatAM focused on Sonic and Sally and no so much the others. There's very little character development and then it ends after a couple seasons. Would Archie be remembered as much if it stopped at issue 50? Maybe earlier? I think SatAM would be more fondly remembered if it got a few more seasons and improved upon things. But Archie is as close to a continuation of the cartoon series as you can get.

>>455972
The various clans, the lion guy and fox girl, that brother and sister he was with in the last story. And of course Iron King and Iron Queen. Just make her a badger or whatever. Not bad for a few stories about Monkey Khan.

>>455975
Oh, I thought you were talking about shadow. my bad

>>455970
>The restrictions we know about
I see people talking about this and honestly I think it's nothing but wishful thinking of fans, unwilling to accept that Sega who reviews every single issue individually before they're released might be tanking the overall quality of the comic with their demands that might be or not completely arbitrary and chaotic, despite this happening before in multiple instances with other companies, sometimes to disastrous outcomes.

>>455977
I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say but I think I might. If you take out everything that only Ian has said and only focus on stuff that others have said and even the changes made because of it, there are plenty. Shadow wasn't allowed to be on a team with Rouge and Omega and Amy took his spot. The writers for both Sonic Boom and Sonic Prime have talked about how Shadow was heavily restricted. And there's minor stuff like Marine not being allowed to appear at the end of the Metal Virus arc because they don't want characters getting their first appearance at the end of an arc. And there's the change to Blaze's mouth in the reprint for an issue. We've also heard about Sega wanting artists using 3D game models and sticking to that but you can file that under "take this with a grain of salt."

Why is ABT getting shit now?

>>455979
What? Explain

>>455981
Omega isn't in these because the artists dont wanna draw him lol

>>455971
I still prefer SatAM, but Archie simply has more. Either ways, it's weird to me to try to put the two against each others when they share so much DNA and sometimes are almost indistinguishable.

>>455985
Sonic attitude erasure. I cant stand it

>>455937
>>455988
Why do female sonic artists like to make guys so twinkish?

>>455985
Why would Sega have them edit this? Sonic being cheeky while Tails ends some poor bastard is would totally be in line.

>>455998
>I wonder if the official Sonic social media will delete his video off the channel now lmao

Why? What did I miss?

>>455999
kept a bunch of money meant for charites for a decade

>>456000
could it be the reason of his fall-out with the Bear guy?