/baw/ - General Discussion

Russian ambassador just died in New York under slightly suspicious circumstances. No cause of death so far, other than that his heart suddenly stopped in mid stride. Amb Churkin has no history of heart disease.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-un-churkin-idUSKBN15Z1UU

I thought all SJWs were spoiled wealthy, elitist, middle-class, Bay Area trustfund babies and all the racist, homophobes and women-harassers were plucky, downtrodden, salt-of-the-earth hardhat-donners?

Get your talking point right, cracker.

>413920
Protip dumbass
>spoiled wealthy, elitist, middle-class, Bay Area trustfund babies
^ these would live with their parents.

In one weekend, Milo went from being a Conservative Wunderkind to being persona non grata — he lost his spot at CPAC, he lost his book deal, and he might lose his spot at Breitbart (several editors have threatened to quit if he is not fired).

Sometimes, there is good in this world.

>>413921
>^ these would live with their parents.

Wouldn't Trump supporters have to do the same? I mean the reason you hate immigrants is because they "stole your job," not because you're racist, right? So that means you're unemployed, and are either mooching off your parents or the state, or begging on the streets, right?

>16
Republicans can't count, there's your red state education for you.
>Daily Mail
lol

>>413924
like all token minority conservatives, Milo is a tool, and the moment that tool stops being useful it is doomed to be thrown away, this outcome shouldn't shock anyone

Milo: "kill and rape and hurt and insult and harass minorities and the weak, it's the punk thing to do"

The right: Haha take that PC people, this is your own fault you know!

Milo: "Man-boy love can be cool if-"

The right: I am, frankly, quite shocked and upset that this fellow would be so cavalier about the strong taking advantage of the weak.

>>413929
Clinton would be picking her teeth with the bones of their top brass before E3. Trump got a helicopter destroyed, a little girl and several others killed and the target sent a video laughing at him

You know, watching the flailing, burning Lard Elemental that is this administration struggle to remain functional for even 24 hours at a time on one hand, and MoC alternately flee from and cower at their own town halls, I'm starting to come around to the notion that we can turn this into a net gain.

Would have been nice NOT to have to resort to accelerationism but hey, maybe if SOME bunch of idiots hadn't busted open the primary wars/obstructionism pandora's box we could have stuck to slow but steady bipartisan motions. OH WELLLLLL

>>413928
>minorities and women are weak

>>413932
Hey Milo, how's your book deal?

>>413936
Not doing so hot huh champ? Ah well, I'm sure you'll find some news cause to sell yourself to, keep trying!

It's cute how /pol/-kun made the new thread as soon as the last one hit 400 because the thought of another Nazi punching OP offends his sensibilities so

>>413938
Not even /pol/-kun, and did not make this thread, but I am hella glad it triggered you enough to bring out the passive aggressiveness.

>>413939
>Not even /pol/-kun, and did not make this thread
Of COURSE not buddy, don't worry, we believe you!

>>413941
zzzzzzzzzz

>>413941
It's like he has a time machine. Still not tired of winning lol.

>>413942
SHE STILL HAS A CHANCE GUYS! NEVER GIVE UP! SAY IT WITH ME - MADAM PRESIDENT!!!

>>413943
>Still not tired of winning lol.
Never tired of winning, always tired of working (hence why he never does it).

>>413942
>Sweden is out of contr-
An incident in one district quickly put down by cops is "out of control?"

>>413943
>Still not tired of winning lol.

How can you get tired of something you never do?

>winning
>posting on +4politics
PICK ONE

>>413941
Swede here. Young dudes fucking about with fireworks (those are fireworks) is a returning nuisance no matter their coloration or residential area. There are often disruptions caused by White incels at soccer teams between big teams.

>neighborhoods
Hood. One.
>bombs
Rocks.

>>413952
We're not the rape capital of anything. We changed the definition of rape in 2005 which had a noticeable effect in crime statistics but there is not a single rightwinger willing to acknowledge that, because they are desperate to cover up their own misogyny and very lukewarm attitude to reducing rape by screaming about Muslims.

Farage sang nazi songs and advocated genocide when he was an adolescent BTW. Humanity needs to eliminate him.

>>413955
Remember how he screamed "SEE YOU IN COURT YOU STUPID COURT" but now instead he cucked his own EO down to size to try and push it through again?

>>413956
My favorite part is it still has a religious test so it's STILL illegal!

Same cars, many shots. It's like a collage illustrating how one car being burned by one brown person turns into seven burned cars in the eyes of pants-wetting White boys. Meanwhile, no one has done a collage of the dozens of refugee homes or islamic centers/mosques being burned or defiled, because only White christian people have any value and deserve to feel any concern in the eyes of nationalists.

Milo resigned so his friends at Breitbart didn't have to face the same death and rape threats their targets usually see. Now we just have to assault any new venue that picks him up with the same pedophilia label.

lol Le Peen got raided by the cops

>>413961
Patriotic politicians are ALLOWED to be corrupt and have dealigns with hostile foreign countries. As long as you hate muslims you're allowed to be a millionaire cutting into public funds, and still be a real folksy hero.

>>413962
hey man, she has to comfort herself over the fact she has no partners to bring her above 50% SOMEHOW

>>413963
You're assuming all the super-left, leftier-than-thou hispters believe in anti-racism, anti-nationalism and anti-corporatist principles enough to vote for Macron and against Le Pen. Not a completely safe bet.

>>413965
Le Pen's disapproval rating sits at around 70%. Maybe she makes it to the 2nd round. MAYBE. But even if that happens basically everyone is just going to face forward and smash her, whether it's Macron or even Filon (lol).

Alternatively, she doesn't even get to round two and we get to see a real shitshow between Macron and whoever.

>>413961
>>413962
>>413963
>police raids on political parties are acceptable
lol this is why you'll lose support again, and again, and again, and again. And when we finally win we'll have all the tools of oppression you created to keep us down.

Think the police will refuse to raid your political parties when we're in charge? Think anyone will give a fuck about Le Pen doing something Hollande also did?

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/cognitive-bias-president-trump-understands-better/

dog bites man vs man bites dog in long form but it's still an interesting read

>>413969
>Think anyone will give a fuck about Le Pen doing something Hollande also did?
In your imaginary world where she wins there's no EU funds to pay party members with, and ergo no reason to raid.

>>413971
We'll find our reasons, as you found yours. Treason is a pretty big one.

>>413972
>We'll find our reasons, as you found yours.
So you're saying that suspicion of embezzlement is not a VALID reason to investigate people?

>>413973
Le Pen is allowed to do what she wants but nothing is acceptable to do to her.

If there ever was a crowd that deserves to live under islamists, it's Le Pen's supporters.

>>413973
So you're saying that suspicion of treason is not a VALID reason to investigate people?

>>413974
>Le Pen is allowed to do what she wants but nothing is acceptable to do to her.
>we can break into your party hq and wreck up the place -> BUT YOU CANT DO IT TO US!
Liberal projection.

>we can break into your party hq if law enforcement has probable cause because any police force in a normal functioning country is not in the habit of ransacking political parties without a damn good reason and documented preceding police work to present as valid justification

Why, I agree completely Anon, how nice to see that you understand basic civics.

>>413976
>So you're saying that suspicion of treason is not a VALID reason to investigate people?
What treason? You are creating a hypothetical scenario. We are referencing a thing that has factually happened. Le Penn is suspected of embezzlement and under investigation. Are you saying that the charges are fabricated (as you are basically stating that your charges would be)? If so, what is your evidence of this claim, since fabrication of criminal evidence is basically unheard of on the national level of modern France?

>>413977
Hollande gives 10 billion euro in cash money to foreign states military aid, this is part of public record. All he has on LePen is a claim (PROVEN FALSE) that she used tax money to hire a bodyguard to protect her from Hollandes thugs.

Pretty fucking sure a police officer can make a better case for treason against Hollande, than misappropriation of public funds for Le Pen.

>>413978
Funding groups that want to destroy the country. Subsidizing the exportation of employment to other countries. Subsidizing importation of labor from other countries. Getting the country involved in unnecessary wars on behalf of foreign countries. Paying trillions to business interests.

There's any number of reasons to fucking EXECUTE you motherfuckers.

>>413979
To clarify the claim is that she didn't hire the bodyguard, but used the money elsewhere. When she clearly did.

The charges are completely fabricated by OLAF, an EU investigative service.

>>413979
>Hollande gives 10 billion euro in cash money to foreign states military aid, this is part of public record.
Which isn't a crime.
> All he
Yeah gonna stop you right there. There's no "he." This is not a grand Socialist conspiracy, this is a (fairly routine, actually) criminal investigation in France, a country with a nice, independent judiciary. She is under investigation for using EU funds to pay the employees of her national political party. Her HQ, which would be relevant to any such investigation, has been searched per probable cause. If sufficient evidence is brought to light following an investigation, she'll be able to contest in court as is her right.
>(PROVEN FALSE)
Proven where? By what? Provide your sources and the documentation, as well as the court cases they were presented in.
>Pretty fucking sure a police officer can make a better case for treason against Hollande, than misappropriation of public funds for Le Pen.
Really? Treason's quite the specific claim. For your edifictaiton:
"Article 411-1[11] of the French Penal Code defines treason as follows:

The acts defined by articles 411-2 to 411-11 constitute treason where they are committed by a French national or a soldier in the service of France, and constitute espionage where they are committed by any other person.

Article 411-2 prohibits "handing over troops belonging to the French armed forces, or all or part of the national territory, to a foreign power, to a foreign organisation or to an organisation under foreign control, or to their agents". It is punishable by life imprisonment and a fine of €750,000. Generally parole is not available until 18 years of a life sentence have elapsed.[12]

Articles 411-3 to 411-10 define various other crimes of collaboration with the enemy, sabotage, and the like. These are punishable with imprisonment for between thirty and seven years. Article 411-11 make it a crime to incite any of the above crimes.

Besides treason and espionage, there are many other crimes dealing with national security, insurrection, terrorism and so on. These are all to be found in Book IV of the code."
>Funding groups that want to destroy the country. Subsidizing the exportation of employment to other countries. Subsidizing importation of labor from other countries. Getting the country involved in unnecessary wars on behalf of foreign countries. Paying trillions to business interests.
So there's a lot of problems with this. You have no evidence cited for any of these, several of these aren't crimes at all, one sounds like you being mad about France upholding its own treaty obligations, etc, etc. And of course, only the first has any relation to treason, terrorism, etc, and lo, it's the one which you could least credibly make a case for as it stands. If you want to be bringing people in for treason anon, you should really learn a thing or two about how law, crime, courts, etc work. And of course, even if you did somehow bring someone in (we'll say Hollande for the sake of it) on treason charges AND got those charges upheld in the courts, you'd still have one other problem:
>There's any number of reasons to fucking EXECUTE you motherfuckers.
France doesn't have the death penalty, silly American.

>>413982
You are free to respond properly at any time, rather than this ideological silliness that contradicts itself. Until you take debate seriously, I'm afraid you won't be treated seriously either.

>>413982
>Le Pen has promised to re-institute it.
Le Pen can promise to change rain into chocolate syrup, a promise does not a constitutional amendment make.

>>413979
He's going full cumskin guys. Notify his high school.

aaaand, pinched
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-lepen-idUSKBN1610XQ

Also, Bayrou is saying he wants to ally with Macron, so that's another split in the non-FN block mostly sealed up.

>>413989
>lol I'm sure this is completely aboveboard.
>It's just a coincidence guys!
If it isn't, dispute it in court.

Yeah it's not as if nationalists, believing they are entitled to do absolutely whatever they want because they are the select few that can save their nations from gay rights and halal meat and their supporters always back them no matter what, are prone to corruption.

They legit think the rest of society and its norms are a degenerated, obsolete enemy that needs to be brought to heel. They have no scruples.

Also, Le Pen's defense is that the misused money did not come from "the people" but from (((the banks))). Okay you toothless-looking bloodhound-eyed fucking hag.

>>413992
First, if you're poor, half the time it's because you are a lazy coward.

Second, yes, universal healthcare is a good idea. But, actually making it work is another thing.

>>413993
>half the time it's because you are a lazy coward.

So what you're saying is you were born into money and don't have the mental competence to imagine anyone else growing up in different conditions.

>>413994
In the 1st world, you often can elevate yourself from the conditions you were born into, but many chose to not even try.

>>413995
>In the 1st world, you often can elevate yourself from the conditions you were born into

Ah, so you weren't just born into wealth, you're a baby boomer who was born into wealth then.

>>413995

The possibility is there. That does not mean the probability is there.

>>413993
>Half the time
Holy shit, a full 50% of poverty cases are due to lack of self-motivation? That's incredible! Can I see the research paper you got this from? It sounds like some groundbreaking shit!

>>414000
He got it from the prestigious scientific journal "Things Are Okay For Me, Therefore Anyone Who Hasn't Been As Lucky Is Just Lazy."

>>413992
>>413994
>>413993
>>413995
>>413997
Actually it's closer to 100%.

Four things you have to do in America to not stay poor are:
1. Don't get pregnant before marriage.
2. Finish high school.
3. Get a job.
4. Don't commit a crime.

These are fully personal choices of every individual, there is no one keeping you down but yourself.

Nope. If the war on poverty didn't help no republican would bother hating it. A republican wanting something good and functional gone is like friction between surfaces creating heat energy. Physical law.

Also high school does not lift you out of poverty if you need any decent health care coverage at any point. Jobs that don't require college degrees almost only exist in more expensive cities, which means high fixed costs.

>>414003
No no no boss, that's not what I was asking for. I was asking for the research paper you found that it. You know, the peer reviewed one? The one which cited a wide variety of different sources and studies, and which showed causation, not just correlation? You must have it, right?

>>414002
But jobs that only require a high school education to hire you are rare and getting rarer, and because they have more applicants than positions to fill they can pay less than the job is worth and still get all the labor they need. Where does getting underpaid in a dwindling job market result in improved economic conditions?

This is one of those "How much could a banana cost? $20?" Situations. People like you who have never had to work for anything don't know anything about real world economics. All you have is contempt for people who weren't born as lucky as you for daring to remind you by their very existence that nothing you have attained is your own doing.

>>414002

A person can accomplish all four of those things and still be left out in the cold through no fault of their own. Life is not fair.

Your entire way of thinking is predicated on the idea of "hard work" and "personal responsibility". Neither of those things account for things like systemic discrimination, towns destroyed by the loss of their major industry (e.g., "coal mine towns"), and the lack of rising wages for non-executives over the past few decades. You fail to consider all the discrete-yet-significant factors — including the wealth, or lack thereof, of the family a person is born into — that weigh upon a person's ability to pull themselves out of poverty.

Do some people avoid trying to find work because they are lazy? Absolutely. But some people cannot find work because they are not trained to work in an increasingly service-based economy. Some people cannot find work because of medical or psychological conditions. And some people cannot find work because they live in places where even "entry-level" jobs are sparse. All you see is "laziness" and "wanting to mooch off of the government", though. You have contempt for those who do not try, but spread your contempt even to those that do because they are not trying "hard enough".

People should not be held responsible for factors outside of their control that keep them in poverty and unemployment. If you have a good reason why they should, by all means, share it.

>>414004
>creating heat energy.
Energy is neither created nor destroyed.

Republicans also want to help people, they just realize that GIVING A MAN A FISH is a fucking dumb way of doing it.that has never worked.

tl;dr You're an idiot.

>>414009
>A person can accomplish all four of those things and still be left out in the cold through no fault of their own. Life is not fair.
Sure, but that only happens to a negligible portion of unlucky individuals. And its those people that welfare should be aimed at, not the 90% who are poor because no one educated them to obey those 4 things and enter the middle class.

>>414006
>jobs that only require a high school education to hire you are rare and getting rarer
Which is the fault of politicians like the Clintons for signing FTAs and exporting jobs to Mexico and China. Allowing millions of illegal immigrants into the country isn't helping the job balance either.

All I have are statistics and in depth multi-decade studies proving my point. All YOU have is contempt for everyone who thinks your retarded policies hurt people.

>>414010

>Republicans also want to help people, they just realize that GIVING A MAN A FISH is a fucking dumb way of doing it.

Too bad Republicans have yet to realize that tossing a guy a stick and some line, then saying "FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF", does not teach a man how to fish.

>>414011

>obey

I...uh...what?

>that only happens to a negligible portion of unlucky individuals

And everyone else who happens to get fucked by an economic downturn or somesuch — what, do they not deserve help? Do they all just need to make GoFundMe pages or some shit?

>>414011
You don't have statistics or multi decade studies.

>>414010

>Republicans also want to help people

NOPE. I'm going to summarize the last three centuries for you.

The left: The strong should not harm the weak. Laws are meant to prevent this.

The right (libertarians belong here): The strong may harm the weak at will. Laws preventing this must be removed.

The Christian right focuses on making it easier to hurt LGBT Americans, women and Muslims.
The alt-right focuses opportunistically and without any real priority except for Muslims, trans people and feminists.
Libertarians focus on making it easy to hurt and exploit the poor, consumers, targets of hate campaigns, the environment and the capital-deprived.

The left is trying to stop all of them.

Anyone trying to make it more complicated than that has huffed their own jenkem a bit too often.

>>414011
>Which is the fault of politicians like the Clintons for signing FTAs and exporting jobs to Mexico and China

WRONG. 80-90 % of all job and wage losses are due to technology. Trade is a small part, illegal labor a negligible part.

>>414017
When Republicans are in power, the economy nose dives, the debt balloons like crazy, crime increases, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and civil rights are eroded. In what sense do your solutions "work?"

>>414017

>It's a good thing no one is doing that, you disingenuous fuck.

No, they are. That is the entire philosophy of the Republican Party: "Fuck you, I got mine, now you poor fucks figure out how to get yours - and do it on your own, because you have to take the goddamned responsibility for that." I mean, fuck, several of Trump's appointees see nothing wrong with wanting to deconstruct or completely eradicate the government agencies that they run. (Betsy "Fuck Public Schools" DeVos even said she would have no problem with the Department of Education being shut down.)

>Our solutions just happen to work

How did those "solutions" work in, say, 2008?

>>414018
I mean it does what they want, you have to admit.

>>414017
>Notice how we recognize the problems exist, and want to solve them, we just have different solutions. Our solutions just happen to work

First of all, guns dispersed in the civilian population do not protect from tyrants or foreign invaders, so go fuck your own mother.

What it does allow for is genocide, civil war, tribal warfare and fascist coups of democratically elected governments. One day, when a democratically elected left-wing president tries to do something constitutional, the subhumans will use the second amendnment to start a revolt to prevent it.


>White House requested the FBI to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories, the FBI said no

Wasn't there a republican who had to resign after trying to interfere with the DOJ's independence in the context of an investigation?

THIS is a moment where the second amendment might come in handy, but sadly people that care about the rule of law and the country are not the ones buying guns.

>>414022
>Every time a democrat enters power it takes time for his shitty policies to be implemented and time for them to do damage, this is then felt later.

Wrong again - even when accounting for lags, democrats are better at almost everythng all the time, because their consituents have better minds and a more developed, less stagnant culture, leading to better policies. Look at Mississippi, Wisconsin and Kansas.

Or compare infantile movies like "God is NOT dead" or "Left Behind" with even the worst lefty mass-market dross. Leftist and urban culture is superior, and this is reflected in who they elect. Obama is the 10th-12th best president of all time and a true American and charming man that amazed and delighted people the world over every weel.

White rurals elected a rapist with two Habsburgian sons, a lying illegal immigrant object for a wife and a White House full of people doign White Power-signs and saying wives can't be raped by men they are married to.

You are our problem, we are your benefactors. We have you because we refused to let Tecumseh burn and salt the south and were too stupid to give all the freed slaves your guns and a swathe of your territory. All of the US' problems comes from excessive mercy towards the confederates and insufficient reparations towards the slaves. This is not surprising, since the US was founded by slave owners infected with Anglo-Saxon liberalism, which has always been a White boy's ideology.

I refuse to believe an Asian can be this retarded.

>Clinton

Alan Greenspan: a Randian zealot.

>BTW that growth in employees is not a growth in teachers, it's a growth in administrative and support staff. As in paper shufflers that live off the government dime and contribute jack shit to education.

So let's have the teachers do all that for the same wage! That won't make the teaching worse!

I refuse to believe an Asian can be this retarded.

>>414023

Christ, and people say I can be condescending.

So the GOP, the people who come up with solutions that work, on the same day all support:

-Using "states' rights" to revoke bathroom access for trans kids, because that solves some kind of problem
-Telling Colorado that it's time to stop the whole "legal marijuana thing" that has LOWERED usage AND brought in billions, because states' rights is NOT a thing
-Announced a stay on the closing of private federal prisons, so there is a place to put all the black men caught with marijuana in, because THAT solves a problem

And this is why next time there is a Sandy Hook I pray all the kids have republican parents. Because not a single Trump voter deserves to have any dopamine or serotonin in their bodies for the rest of their lives.

I mean let's be fair here--we're pretending like this guy is arguing from a legitimate and well-meaning place, but his "We're trying to solve problems and give people guns to protect them from bigotry" is coming from someone who votes the same way as Genocide-endorser Richard Spencer.

Exactly, they are ready to let people die to get smaller taxes and stick it to all the people whose Tumblr posts made them annoyed, so why don't we just walk on by next time we see a Trump supporter lie bleeding in the street, or turn them away if they need someone to watch their kids so they can go do something important?

We should also try to make blue states pay less into federal programs and focus on the poor in blue states, who are far more deserving. Poor people in red states, at least the White ones, don't vote or vote to hurt poor people.

I stopped giving money to charities that don't focus on "urban" (black) youths and LGBT youths. If I give money for just the poor I might end up keeping republicans alive.

>>414027

At this point, I have to believe you are /pol/-kun trying to play us like a damn fiddle.

>>414028
Nope. I don't plan on killing any republicans but I want to make sure I don't help them live.

Hiding tax returns. Burying Flynn-Kislyak ties. Now, pressuring FBI for political cover. None of the people that screamed at Clinton care about this because they do not have principles or even functioning, coherent ideologies.

>Witnesses say man shouted "get out of my country" before killing one man and injuring two at Kansas bar.

Thanks to republicans, who destroyed wage growth and prevented job creation, then blamed it on non-Whites.

>>414028
He's obviously SOME sort of troll, but he's so over the top that he's easier to ignore than pk.

>>414031
A troll is someone changing their opinions or presentation thereof to create a response. I am expressing my feelings exactly the way I intended.

>>414025
Wrong again.

Comment repair initiated:
>-Using "states' rights" to grant bathroom access for trans kids.
>-Smoking weed is not a constitutional right, anymore than smoking cigarettes is. Get over it you petulant child. Also being thrown in prison over weed isn't a problem, weed arrests are 45% of drug arrests despite weed being 65% of drug use. If anything its under-prosecuted, you moron.
>-Announced a stay on the closing of private federal prisons because wtf do you do if you close a private prison? Where do you put the people? If you're going to close private prisons, first you need to secure funding for state prisons, then construct them. Which takes time.
You're welcome for the shitty comment repair.

>And this is why next time there is a Sandy Hook I pray all the kids have republican parents.
Hardly likely as Sandy Hook, like most mass shootings, was in a liberal approved Gun Free Zone. Not that you care about getting your own kids killed.

>>414026
>coming from someone who votes the same way as Genocide-endorser Weatherman Underground
GG NO RE

>>414033
>Where do you put the people?
Considering most of them are non-criminals on trumped up charges and unnecessary laws created purely to get more black people in private prisons where they can be forced into cheap labor and kept in the school-prison pipeline, why not just fucking release them?

>>414017
lol

A.T.F. Filled Secret Bank Account With Millions From Shadowy Cigarette Sales
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/us/alcohol-tobacco-firearms-cigarettes-millions-secret-bank-account.html?_r=2

This is what happens when liberals think government is angelic.

Probably why they choked that black dude, he was cutting in on their action.

When will these leftists fags learn government isn't to be trusted? Even their hippie parents understood it.

>>414033
>Also being thrown in prison over weed isn't a problem

I can smell how little your mother has worked in her life just from this sentence.

This is the 'voted most likely to die in an ATV accident' of comments.

>>414034
>most of them are non-criminals
Provide some evidence. I'm not going to take such a ridiculous claim on faith, you're basically saying USA has Soviet-tier political prisoners.

>unnecessary laws created purely to get more black people in private prisons
You mean the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act? Google it, click the wiki link, look into the right infobox and scroll to the bottom of it.

>>414033
I've always wondered how a person capable of putting roofies in a girl's drink and then raping her talks.

>>414036
I can smell how ruined your job prospects are, pothead.

This is the 'voted most likely to die in a gun free zone' of comments.

>>414038
Talk to your dad.

>>414039
>Thinking using marijuana charges as an excuse to continue the slave trade in a socially acceptable way is evil and dishonest makes you a pothead.

>>414033
>Votes the same way as Weatherman Underground

Given that the Weatherman Underground has not existed any of the years I have been on this planet, I can assure you that we have never voted the same way.

A reminder of what anti-marijuana legislation is really about, since we're on the subject and since Trump's about to take away the states' rights to choose whether or not to prosecute it:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2016/03/23/nixons-drug-war-an-excuse-to-lock-up-blacks-and-protesters-continues/#2de1d10d42c8

>gun-free zones are scary

People who do mass-shootings don't care about whether people around might have guns. Guess what, most gun owners are mainly interested in saving a White woman from a swarthy attacker and finally being allowed to procreate as a reward.

>>414039
>Ew pot is of the devil sXe
>Ew rap music
>Ew premarital sex

Hey Mike Huckabee Jr. can you get a boner without watching a dog die from hanging yet?

>>414036
>weed arrests are 45% of drug arrests despite weed being 65% of drug use.
Now break that down along racial lines. What percentage of white people use pot? What percentage of black people use pot? What percentage of white people are prosecuted for having pot? What percentage of black people are prosecuted for having pot?

>>414044

As I saw it put on Twitter: "We can't have background checks on guns because criminals don't obey laws," say the people who think sexual predators obey bathroom signs.

>>414041
>slave trade in a socially acceptable way
If you want to talk about immigration, we can talk about immigration.

>>414042
lol you're ignoring Ayers saying he'd vote for Hillary?

>>414044
>People who do mass-shootings don't care about whether people around might have guns.
You basing this on anything or just general out of ass opinion?

Name ten mass shootings with a kill count over 3 not in a gun free zone.

>>414046
You mean the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. Google it, click the wiki link, look into the right infobox and scroll to the bottom of it.

>What percentage of white people are prosecuted for having pot? What percentage of black people are prosecuted for having pot?
What percentage of those pot smokers have secondary crimes they're wanted on? Most possession charges don't happen because a cop is looking for pot, they result because a prosecutor wants additional counts/convictions to extend a sentence for something else.

>>414047
We have background checks on guns, 255 million background checks since the program started in 1998.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year.pdf/view
It's a liberal fantasy that we don't have background checks, because once a problem is solved you idiots have to invent problems to feel good about yourself. I bet you don't even feel embarrassed for believing such nonsense.

>>414049

>It's a liberal fantasy that we don't have background checks

And conservatives think background checks are worthless because gun violence happens anyway. They also think that America needs more guns so civilians can stop crime by shooting people who are committing crimes. The solution to gun violence, in the eyes of conservatives (and the NRA), is not stricter gun control - it is getting more guns on the streets and empowering people to play vigilante.

>>414049
>lol you're ignoring Ayers saying he'd vote for Hillary?

Hard to ignore something that I've never even heard about. There's this weird false equivalence thing where conservatives think that the "liberal equivalent" of their shit is actually equivalent. Like thinking Soros is the equivalent of the Koch brothers because "they're both rich campaign contributors." The fact that Soros has pretty much no influence on the Left while the Kochs control ALEC and founded the Tea Party doesn't seem relevant to conservatives. Same thing with this Weather Underground shit you're trying to pull now. An organization that's been defunct for 40 years and has no influence on the left, and you expect us to answer for their actions, while you avoid answering for the actions of the founder of the alt-right movement that more or less controls the party now.

>>414050
That's amazing, it's as if I didn't post a link disproving your shitty claim.

>>414051
>Soros has pretty much no influence on the Left
Laughing my ass off. Why don't you go wave an anti-Trump or pro-Hillary placard with yellow background and black text made by a Soros owned ad-agency.

(((Soros)))!!!!!!!!!

It's weird how all the nationalists have no problem letting their countries become dependent on and exposed to nationalists in other nations.

Any European country that cares about itself should make it illegal for anyone involved in any kind of politics to have financial times to Russia, for starters.

>>414053
>Laughing my ass off. Why don't you go wave an anti-Trump or pro-Hillary placard with yellow background and black text made by a Soros owned ad-agency.

I wouldn't even know where to get one. Because, again, Soros has very little influence on the left. He's far more well known by people on the right than people on the left, because he's a boogeyman, and a convenient hate-sink so y'all can pretend "Both sides are exactly the same, so vote Republican."

>>414055
>It's weird how all the nationalists have no problem letting their countries become dependent on and exposed to nationalists in other nations.
As always, party before country.

>>414058
And yet when Christian Fundamentalists were praying against Obama, you had nothing to say.

>>414058
I thought it was the russians

>>414059

To be fair, /pol/-kun is probably thrilled that Republicans want to repeal the Johnson Amendment and let churches become extra tax-free arms of political campaigns, so of course he has nothing to say about Christian fundamentalists.

So wait, people getting signs that they want to wave but that are paid for by others (whoever it is) is the same as being paid to protest?

Wait no, it is not. Again, anyone whining about Soros is obviously inbred.

>>414059
When that happened, I did not know and did not care.

>>414067
Petition for White trash scared of refugees to all stop being just as homophobic, misogynist, theocratic, hateful, antisocial, violent, radical, fascist, censorious, intolerant, inbred, uneducated and generally deserving of death as they claim refugees are.

>>414068
You do realise that epitome White trash, aqnd even White people aren't the only people who oppose Muslim refugees?

>>414069
Banning people based on their religion is as antithetical to the West as Shari'a law, and if you don't see that YOU ARE WHITE TRASH.

>>414068
I have not seen this many buzzwords in a single post for some time.

Ol' 45 plans to bail on the White House Correspondent's Dinner.

You would think that he would attend it, given how he loves to attack the media. (And how Obama took potshots at Trump during one of those events, thus setting in motion a chain of events that led to where we are now.)

>>414070
>Banning people based on their religion
Something like 90% of muslim world is unaffected by the extra questions at the airport.

You've managed to turn an interview at an airport, for people from wartorn countries with no felon tracking system, into a BAN on an entire RELIGION. You're an idiot.

And that last part is me being charitable.

>>414072

I've had so many White kill-worthy insects try to push me into a corner with this shit.

Why should I let immigrants into my domicile when I'm not telling anyone else to do that?

Fuck, I wouldn't invite Tyra Banks to live in my domicile. Would be crowded.

Try again, vermin.

>>414075
I don't follow your--for want of a better word--"logic."

>>414076
I was retorting against a "tu quoque" fallcy in the first place. Next to shitty analogous arguments ("banning pro-pedophilia transphobes from speaking at Berkeley = censorship"), tu quoque is a rightwinger troll's main approach.

The idea, according to people that probably sit in church and do those retarded hand gestures every Sunday, is that if you support immigration into your country, then obviously you think immigrants are so cool you want an immigrant in your home!

Except, my country is not my home. Not your home either. Asking your country to take in refugees is not the same as demanding your countrymen take in refugees into *their* homes. That was never on the table.

>>414075
>Why should I let immigrants into my domicile
RACIST SCUM DETECTED!!!

Why should the entire nation pay for your opinions? Pay for them yourself, you little bitch.

>>414078
Okay stop taking abortion away from women who like abortion just because you dislike abortion.

(Seriously though you're the reason god invented fibromyalgia)

>>414077
Sorry, that was actually targeted at the person saying that if you support the sheltering of refugees that you are obligated to let strangers live in your house. I clicked the wrong post when I made my reply. I got your logic. it's the "logic" of the person who thinks that saying that engaging in the same policy of harboring refugees from war-torn nations that pretty much all of the western world engages in was somehow equivalent to forced quartering.

Strikes me as the same sort of "logic" where an anti-feminist's first response to a feminist is that "I should be able to punch women in the face" because "equality" when it's not legal to punch men in the face, either.

>>414080
You. Are. Not. My. Dad.

>>414082
The only person who knows that for sure is your mom.

Reminder that a man without a single redeeming quality who has failed at every single thing in his life and is not qualified for anything became the most powerful man in the world because the people doing the job interview and the hiring had the same gonads and ethnicity as him.

Once everyone that is stupid enough to think racism and sexism aren't important factors have been eradicated by their own stupidity, Trump will be seen as the zenith and beginning of the end for the age of White Judeo-Christian men.

>>414084
I've heard a pretty interesting hypothesis recently that Trump's incompetence is *why* he got elected. He's attained massive popularity among 4chan's self-professed "betas" because he is the ultimate Beta Power Fantasy: an ugly, self-centered man with no social skills nor any other useful skills of any kind, who fucks up at everything he does and has contempt for every other living person, and is massively rewarded for it. He's what every person on 4chan who dubs themselves "betas" dreams of being.

>>414083
Are you implying Mr Stone had sex?

>>414085
>he is the ultimate Beta Power Fantasy: an ugly, self-centered man with no social skills nor any other useful skills of any kind, who fucks up at everything he does and has contempt for every other living person...................
Be careful not to project too much, the light bulb might explode.

>>414079
>taking away abortion
How is anyone doing that? Literally only christian evangelists and nation of islam care, the rest of us just don't want our tax money being used for elective surgery.

>>414083
BURN!

>>414088
>the rest of us just don't want our tax money being used for elective surgery

how convenient that it's not

>Taxpayers paying for abortions

Oops, doesn't happen. Which is why the superior Americans in blue states end up paying for all the teenage pregnacies and many related problems in the subhuman red states.

Thank god for opioid epidemics, tornadoes and dust bowls.

>>414088

Tax money does not pay for abortions. That is written into federal law.

aaaaaaaaand the attorney general perjured himself

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html?utm_term=.8f397dfc4f49

oopsy daisyyyyyyyyy

>>414106
how many cabinet members that lied under oath are we up to now, i'm losing track

But Her Emails, episode #77650

>>414109
I give you 1 (one) LOL.

>>414106
The way evil turns in upon itself in this administration comes off like a slightly hacky fantasy novel, in all honesty.

>>414111
Even Do Nothing Chaffetz is now asking for, at minimum, recusal.

Is the thing that finally removes Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III from Washington seriously going to be getting promoted?

He's recused himself.

Except the AG can't commit perjury and not resign.

too much news

>>414108
Speaking of emails:

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/pence-used-personal-email-state-business----and-hacked/98604904/

The real shock is that he was STILL using AOL(?!).

>>414116
Pruit has also been outed for private email servers

>posting ITT as a precaution

Can a cross-religion romantic relationship really work? Do any of you know of one?

I would assume (for example) that most Christians in a relationship with a non-Christian would not be content with their partner going to hell after life, and would therefore be very tempted to try and convert their partner or leave them. Similarly, I assume other religious people (and also many convinced athiests) would act the same way. And I guess if they didnt care that much, then the relationship probably lacks strength anyway.

>>414119
There are a lot of examples of people dating people who have different religions from their own. It's especially necessary for members of religions that represent a minority of the population.

Also, remember that most religions don't condemn everyone who doesn't follow them to eternal torment for it. That's largely a Christian conceit (most religions don't even have a concept of hell), and one that even many Christian denominations (such as Catholicism, thanks to a recent papal edict) reject.

Evangelism also isn't a universal feature of religions, and is again much more a Christian conceit than a universal feature of religions.

>>414121
Those are good points. Being raised in an Anglican Christian community with some Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses in the mix, I made the unsubstantiated assumption that most other wide-spread religions had similar evangelism and believed in punishment to those who don't believe in their religion. Thank you for correcting me.

Also, I never heard of the papal edict you refer to (I don't often keep up with Vatican news), but trying to find it I saw a Pope Francis quote from 2013 that supports it:
>"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!"

>>414127

>There is a famous story told in Chassidic literature that addresses this very question. The Master teaches the student that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.

>One clever student asks “What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?”

>The Master responds “God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all — the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.”

>"This means," the Master continued "that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say ‘I pray that God will help you.’ Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say ‘I will help you.’"

Source: "Tales of the Hasidim, Vol. 2: The Later Masters" [Martin Buber, Olga Marx]

>>414121
>That's largely a Christian conceit
............... and muslim.

>>414132
Islam inherited it from Christianity

>>414135
That's actually a good point.

Still, anon's post was political, and not historical.

The White House is now telling Comey that he needs to stop pointing out that Obama did not ask anyone to wiretap Trump or his campaign headquarters.

This is probably just a brilliant tactical move rather than a high crime that would have any non-republican out of office in a heartbeat.

>>414145

Well, if the GOP is going to focus on legislating women's reproductive systems…

>>414146
It is doing no such thing.

>>414147

Right, because it is always Democrats who are defunding Planned Parenthood, passing TRAP laws, forcing abstinence-only education onto schools, and talking about things like "legitimate rape" and how a woman's body can "shut down" during rape to prevent her from getting pregnant. Yup, always the Democrats.

>>414148
Wow, you know so many things. You're prolly smart.

>>414147
Just because you don't pay attention to issues that don't affect you doesn't mean they don't exist, chum.

>>414150
did you mean to reply to >>414147

In LGBT news, Joseph Nicolosi — the modern father of "conversion therapy" — has passed away. So hey, one less fucktarded asshole in the world.

>>414162
Context-free links to youtube videos is a sign that whatever your opinion is, it comes from a position of idiocy.

>>414163
>I am afraid to watch a 2 minute video because it will warp my fragile little mind

>>414164
>I am incapable of communicating through speech

>>414164
>I have my opinions fed to me by right wing nerds on Youtube and expect everyone else to do the same.

>>414167
>The Guardian is right wing nerds on YouTube

2 The BASED Griffon tells it like it is regarding transgender bathrooms:
//youtube.com/watch?v=991D1nlFHP0

>>414168
Wouldn't know, I don't watch internet goblins' political rant youtube channels. My time is actually valuable.

>>414169

2 is still a thing? HOW?! …oh right, he still appeals to disaffected assholes.

>>414171
this tbh broseph

>>414171
Which is why you spend it here.

>>414176
>Spending 20 seconds to a minute during breaks on an imageboard is the same thing as watching strangers rant about how unfair it is that not enough women want to touch their wieners on Youtube.

>>414177
You have not watched the video, haven't you?

>>414178

Nobody cares about the video you posted.

>>414172
I think you should tell that to him personally.

>>414182

Nah, fam, we good.

>>414169
Gays like 2 and Milo is why god invented anal fissures. And leftists like Michael Tracey is why he created the Pinkertons.

>>414185
Who is Michael Tracey?

>>414186
A hairy rust-belt fetischist from the Young Turks who hates Clinton, thinks the left cares too much about "SJWs" and deems anyone that thinks something is amiss about the deep connections between Trump and Russia as a fan of Henry Kissinger. So, basically about as useful to left-wing causes as Jill Stein.

>>414162
>Debating gender: what if Donald Trump was a woman?
Then she'd basically be Agatha Trunchbull minus the gold medal in hammer throws?

>>414204
>someone actually watched it
Thank you for not being paranoid, anon.

>>414206

And if you had supplied that context in the first fucking place, maybe other people here would have watched it.

>>414207
I forgot you cannot just click the link and see what it is. This place does not have this function, sadly.

>>414209

I forgot you cannot just type a few words and add context to your link. Your brain does not have this function, sadly.

The best name for Republican healthcare is Wealthcare.

Welp. If Trump had a distaste for Hawaii before, he is really gonna hate the fuck out of that particular state now.

He got two hours late to a Nashville rally because he stomped around in an infantile paroxysm after his travel ban got spited again. His staffers had to cheer him up. How much do you have to hate yourself to work for this administration?

Some intern in the social media department gave their job for this tweet: https://twitter.com/MintRoyale/status/842372139185537024

The Trump regime wants to eliminate the budget for things such as Meals on Wheels, after-school programs, and PBS because they do not “get results”.

Everyone in his regime, up to Ol’ 45 himself, is a heartless sociopath. That is the only explanation I have for shit like this.

Hey, /pol/-kun:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-helped-convince-me-to-stop-being-hardcore-republican/

>>414249
Hey, Sage.

I don't know who you think I am, but actually I am a different anon. I just came in to say
>cracked
>cracked
>cracked
>cracked
>cr....... you get the idea (hopefully)

Well, if there were anything that might be seen as YouTube fucking itself over (in re: >>414240), this could be it: http://gizmodo.com/youtubes-restricted-mode-is-hiding-some-lgbt-content-1793382337

Their tone-deaf response is not much better: https://twitter.com/YTCreators/status/843613347367079937

>>414253
I'll be the devil's advocate here and say that some #ButNotAll lgbtq individuals are all for promoting their culture to young and easily impressionable children.

And that is kind of sort of bad.

I suggest making such videos 13+ only.

>>414254

What do you mean by both “promoting” and “culture”?

>>414255
Convincing small children (as opposed to older ones) that they are probably all not straight! Cause, as we all know being straight is just a cultural construct we need to free ourselves from at the youngest age!

>>414256
This is a completely nonsensical character you've created, fuck off and stump for Trump somewhere else.

>>414254
The devil has enough advocates.

>>414256
>Convincing small children (as opposed to older ones) that they are probably all not straight!

This is not a thing that happens. Men and women are different enough that if you know you don't like one type of dish, you're not goign to be able to convince yourself you actually do.

Like most people who aren't left-wing, you have a tragically oversized chip on your shoulder created by insulation and a readiness to feel embattled and besieged.

>>414259
I often suspect that people who think people can be "turned" gay are people who are gay themselves but in denial, and therefore think that since they "choose to be heterosexual" despite their attraction to people of the same sex, that clearly everyone who is being gay is just choosing to be that way, or tricked into thinking it was okay.

Gay folk who have really internalized that societal heteronormativity and homophobia to so deep a degree that they don't even understand themselves.

>>414260
It could also be to allow them to blame other pople, not unlike vaxxers (or what ever that term for vaccine autism conspirators is)

>>414259
>Like most people who aren't left-wing
On some issues. Depends on the issue, easily assuming buddy.

>>414260
I didn't say anything about being "turned". More like kids will say/do some embarrassing things they will regret later.

And I absolutely love the "if you hate it you must secretly love it" argument. Sure, sometimes that is true, but to assume it's like that everywhere, would be close to a fallacy.

Conservative woman calls other conservatives hypocrites, finds out that conservatives do not like to have their hypocrisy pointed out to them — especially by a woman, and especially on the issue of abortion: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/20/report-tomi-lahren-suspended-at-theblaze.html

>>414265
That article does not mention at all why being a pro-abortion conservative is hypocritical.

And it is wrong to fire someone on the basis of their political opinion.

>>414266

>That article does not mention at all why being a pro-abortion conservative is hypocritical.

Conservatives tend to support the idea of excessive legislation, at every level of government, to restrict the right of a woman to have an abortion. Conservatives also bristle at the idea of “big government” interfering in people’s lives, which is why they keep pushing the “small government” idea. Can you spot the contradiction? Tomi Lahren did, and for all her other horrible conservative beliefs, she managed to snag herself a Stopped Clock moment (as well as shitloads of heat from other conservatives) by pointing it out.