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No.988
Anonymous
Replies:>>11598
The current site can be located at: https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages
Feel free to discuss whatever in this thread regarding the tournament wiki page but you shouldn't expect fast replies.
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>>987
No.991
Anonymous
>>990
Brooke CONFIRMED to have HUGE tits but CORAL IS FLAT BTFO
No.992
Anonymous
Replies:>>8523
>>987
I love Colette so damn much.
No.993
Anonymous
Replies:>>994>>1036
>>987
Will there be a page for Orel Peterson or Ceasar Anon?
No.994
Anonymous
Replies:>>1019
>>993
Is there a way to archive voice clips on the wiki?
No.1019
Anonymous
Replies:>>1020
>>994
Transcripting them?
No.1020
Anonymous
>>1019
Damn. Sounds hard for 15+ Minute clips
No.1024
Anonymous
Want to remind you that any of the 128 girls who are in this tournament are eligible for a page on the wiki. You have to make it though if you want to see it
Also thanks for the anons helping out on the wiki. I'll add the current results in a little
No.1036
Anonymous
>>993
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Vocaroos
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Could someone add some information about Round 4 for Mr /co/ in 2019? Would especially appreciate it from someone who was actually there to experience it, but it can go either way.

Here's a post about it made from /co/ to get an idea:
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The main thing was Bugs Bunny vs Zim, which lead to not only to shitflinging, but a massive trap-off to see which character looked best in girl clothes (note that this was the year Enter the Florpus came out so the board was in a bit of a Zim-rush)

Not only that, but there was also Kronk vs Grievous, the silent majority winner vs one of the most hyped up contestants of the tournament due to all the amazing OC Grievous got. So there were definitely alot of posts about that matchup thrown in the mix.

There were also folks heavily seething about Joker, for he was able to knock out both Donald AND Daffy (essentially preventing a hyped up Donald vs Daffy matchup from happening in Round 3) and there was paranoia that the ones voting for Joker were trolls from /tv/. In the end, Joker lost to Skeletor by ONE vote.

Oh, and there was a bit of Skeleton Gang posting in there as well. Including some involving the match up of Iroh vs Grim.

The only time Mr /co/ ever came close to the show of Round 4 was the Finals in 2020, where the gay wedding event happened.
No.1358
Anonymous
Replies:>>1430
>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Miss_Pauling
Wiki admins might want to lock this down before it gets ugly.
No.1429
Anonymous
Replies:>>1437
Should poll pictures be added to the Ms. /co/ 2021 page?
No.1430
Anonymous
>>1358
it's quickly deleted, but i'm going to reconstruct her article with relevant info (why she's technically /co/, contest history, pictures etc.) But it's gonna be slow because i need to read the tf2 comics
No.1437
Anonymous
>>1429
I think there should be a redirect to a separate compilation page instead, because that's 128 pictures of girls that will be put there.
But before that the poll pics should be uploaded first.
No.1442
Anonymous
ADD TOURNEY ANON.
AS A WARNING.
No.1526
Anonymous
Replies:>>1527
Someone needs to write longer history/details for the other winners.
No.1527
Anonymous
Replies:>>1543>>1632
>>1526
Yeah I apologize for that (I made several big-candidate pages a while back and all I had were blurbs, other editors seemed to have a lot more to provide). What should be added to some winner?
No.1528
Anonymous
Replies:>>1533>>1544
>>1442
If we add toruney anon we would probably have to add f*se. Do they deserve it?
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>>1442
>>1528
According to TourneyAnon himself he's done with all the tournament hosting stuff and is focusing on OC and campaigning.
No.1543
Anonymous
>>1527
Jenny's involvement and importance in the contest should be lengthened.

https://msco.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1182
No.1544
Anonymous
Replies:>>1547
>>1442
>>1533
Not the original, but I think we should add Tourney Anon just in case he gets the idea of coming back. I know he did that for both Queen and King /v/ last year.

>>1528
Yes. As a warning.

Though I'd also recommend either adding in Fuse's BTFO moment by Black Hand or making his article boring to read. Don't make him out to be a martyr or something like that.
No.1547
Anonymous
>>1544
>I know he did that for both Queen and King /v/ last year.
He technically didn't come back for those though.
Queen was his first attempt and he was chill during King.
No.1550
Anonymous
Replies:>>1551>>1553
Just double-checking, but a character needs to qualify for Mr./Ms. /co/ or have an overwhelming presence otherwise (like Ramses in the RP) to get a page, right? So individual characters who qualified for Tag-Team don't get their own page?
No.1551
Anonymous
Replies:>>1552
>>1550
Wilkins got a page despite never qualifying for Mr. /co/
No.1552
Anonymous
>>1551
He got in the tag tourney.
No.1553
Anonymous
Replies:>>1554
>>1550
Pretty much, tag-team entries won't count unless they are particularly notable. The is a case by case basis because there are examples of characters who were significant despite not making a tourney (or stuff like Henchgwen which can't qualify but are significant oc)
For example the Goldfish one, if no goldfish qualify, will likely either be merged into one goldfish page or be removed if it's not enough info
No.1554
Anonymous
Replies:>>1558
>>1553
Are you going to add the OP images for the Results/Afterparty
No.1558
Anonymous
>>1554
>OP images for the Results/Afterparty
Have no idea what you mean by this dude
No.1559
Anonymous
Just yesterday I managed to add General Grievous, Twig, Chris McClean and The Monarch's pages to the wiki. They're not exactly detailed, but I could probably get to them later if someone else doesn't (though I may be real busy this October). There's also a page for Grim now.

Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.
No.1561
Anonymous
Replies:>>1570
>>1559
>I managed to add General Grievous, Twig, Chris McClean and The Monarch's pages to the wiki.
As a RPer i know quite a lot about them so if you need some more info just ask.
Sorry but i don't know how to work on a Wiki.
No.1562
Anonymous
Replies:>>1563
Anon who posted the general records won by the E8, you probably found them around the tourney. Might as well posting here the records of all E8 since I don't know how to work a wiki. Some of those might be already inserted, but you never know.
>Oldest Members: Betty Boop for Ms./co/ (1930) and Daffy for Mr./co/ (1937)
>Youngest Members: Fang for Ms./co/ (October 2019, beating Spinel by a month) and WALL-E for Mr./co/ (June 2008; Beating Doofenshmirtz by 5 months)
>Highest seeds: Superman (2018; top seed) and Spinel (2019; top seed)
>Lowest seeds: Black Canary (2018; 66th) and Hugh Neutron (2020; 53rd)
>Highest seed winners: Spinel for Ms./co/ (1st) and Johnny Bravo for Mr./co/ (4th)
>Lowest seed winners: Jenny Wakeman for Ms./co/ (37th) and Tom for Mr./co/ (46th)
>Winner with the smallest vote margin: Betty Boop (Won by 10 votes)
>Winner with the largest vote margin: Spinel (Won by 186 votes*)
>From the same channel: Cartoon Network with 18 characters (Counting also Raven and Starfire because of Teen Titans; Batman and Superman because of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Justice League Action; and Daffy Duck because of Duck Dodgers)
>First non-american characters: Jucika (Hungary) and Wallace (UK), both of them in the same year
>All the main characters from Courage the Cowardly Dog have been at least once in their respective E8 (Although I'm not sure if they're the first, since I don't know if you only need to count Samurai Jack and Aku as the main characters for that to beat the record already or characters like Ashi and the Scotsman are considered main characters)
Also, other records, not necessarily from the Elite 8:
>Rounds with the smallest vote margin for Ms./co/: Jinx VS Wonder Woman (2018; Jinx wins by 1 vote); Hekapoo VS Demencia (2020; Hekapoo wins by 1 vote)
>Rounds with the smallest vote margin for Mr./co/: Captain America VS Courage (2018; Cap wins by 1 vote); Skeletor VS The Joker (2019; Skeletor wins by 1 vote); Daffy Duck VS Samurai Jack
(2020; Daffy wins by 1 vote). As of now, Mr./co/ had for three consecutive years at least one matchup that was determined by 1 vote
No.1563
Anonymous
>>1562
Also, might as well add the records won in the Tag Team Tournament, if you want them to be lumped with the rest. Although it's more of a Final Four:
>Oldest members: The Power of Two with Oswald the Lucky Rabbit and Mickey Mouse (1927 and 1928 respectively), if you include these tournaments with the rest, Oswald is the oldest finalist
>Youngest members: North Pole Express with Klaus and Jesper Johansson (November 2019), if included, they are both the youngest finalists
>The Freelance Police (Sam and Max) are the first winners that originated from a comic
>The Wiley Eggs (Robotnik and Dr. Wiley) are the first finalists that didn't originate from a comic or a cartoon
No.1564
Anonymous
Replies:>>1566
>>1559
>Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.

Why those ones in particular?
No.1566
Anonymous
>>1564
>Because of....

Mao Mao's Round 1 curse + RP

Dan's RP

Joker disrupting the hyped up "Duck Bowl" in 2019 and only losing to Skeletor by one vote

Godzilla for not "exactly" being /co/ yet having a presence in contests (I know Eggman at least got one), plus he seems to have gotten into every Mr /co/ so far.

Zim for the trap off in 2019 and that he may have been in every contest now I believe?
No.1570
Anonymous
>>1561
The wiki isn't hard to figure out and if you're stuck you can just copy another character's page (I find it easier to switch from 'visual editing' to 'source editing') and change the details around. As long as you don't fuck with any of the important pages or undo a lot of someone else's work, you're fine.
No.1571
Anonymous
Replies:>>1573
Should I bother to go back and make some screencaps or would that be a complete waste of time?
No.1573
Anonymous
Replies:>>1574
>>1571
Any moments in particular you were thinking of? You could also add them to the booru if you aren't sure.
No.1574
Anonymous
Replies:>>1579
>>1573
Janny deletion of the nomination thread or at least the parts that I can still find archived
No.1579
Anonymous
>>1574
I do have an IMGUR of some posts I screenshotted of people bitching on the nomination thread getting deleted.
No.1582
Anonymous
>>1559
>Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.
Nah you can
Replies:>>1588>>1593
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Would you guys like me to make character plates for 2019? I can get around to it until next week at the earliest.
No.1588
Anonymous
Replies:>>1590
>>1586
I'm strongly against this. That year doesn't deserve commemoration and it honestly would just be a waste of your time when you have to do another 128 plates a week after.
No.1590
Anonymous
Replies:>>1591
>>1588
It doesn't have to be next week, though if I did do it and since I said I would try to help with King/Queen /v/, I probably wouldn't get to it until January. I'll ask during Mr. /co/ and if a lot of responses are like yours I won't do it.
No.1591
Anonymous
>>1590
I'll add right here too, if the previous bracketsanon was vehemently against it too I'll drop it.
No.1593
Anonymous
Replies:>>1594
>>1586
Please no. That would just be a waste of time.

Making special brackets for Queen and King /v/ though....
No.1594
Anonymous
Replies:>>1598
>>1593
>/v/ is even trying to steal our tournament OC creators
What does /a/ not steal
No.1596
Anonymous
Is there a king and queen of /v/ dedicated wiki? I'm creating articles on some of their tournaments on my home wikia such as these:
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/King_of_/v/_2019
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/King_of_/v/_2020
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_/v/_2019
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_/v/_2020

I'm considering transferring them into the Mr & Ms. /co/ wikia so that there's only one place to upload the character icon templates. But if anons don't like it, then the /v/ tournaments will remain in the above links instead.

I'm also planning to create a page on Miss /aco/ 2021 if that event manages to finish.
No.1598
Anonymous
>>1594
2/3 of the /v/ tournament threads are just /co/ crossposters if you haven't already realized by reading those threads.
No.1602
Anonymous
Slowly working on a table for the Tag-Team Tournament.
No.1632
Anonymous
>>1527
>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_America
Surprised this one doesn't have anything
No.1655
Anonymous
Replies:>>2051
>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Dan_(Dan_Vs.)
Damn...I'm impressed by the autism levels
No.2026
Anonymous
the bracket for mr. /co/ 2021 in the wiki is finally finished
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._/co/lympus_2021
No.2031
Anonymous
Alastor qualified. He needs to go on the Qualified part of the NavBox.

https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Male_Characters_Navbox
No.2051
Anonymous
Replies:>>8518
>>1655
Danfag is insanely autistic as we all know
I'm surprised the Maoanon hasn't made a page yet
No.2059
Anonymous
Welp, Grievous has won.

Do you think we could get some people to expand more on his page?

Or at least add his streaks from this year and last year?
No.2060
Anonymous
Replies:>>2092
Just gonna point out Blacksad has a page while the other detectives (apart from Mao Mao) don't yet. I'd do it myself but I'm not well versed in Mr. /co/ lore
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I think most winners desperately need to have their pages expanded upon. It's quite alarming how characters like Dan get Bibles for pages (though I must say he is sort of an isolated case here), but heavy-hitters with a high presence and long board and tournament history like Skeletor are a blank slate. I would do it myself, but I'm rather busy right now.
No.2075
Anonymous
Replies:>>2076
>>2074
It's because the winner are the least interesting characters, people don't actually care about them, they're actually the biggest losers of these tournaments.
No.2076
Anonymous
>>2075
That's a gigantic cope and you know it. Plenty of Elite Eight members have their own dedicated fanbases on top of being generally well-known to begin with. Sheila and Grievous in particular have been some of the highlights of their respective years.
No.2092
Anonymous
>>2060
Huh, Mao Mao actually doesn't have a page yet
No.8516
Anonymous
Replies:>>8517
Should Queen and King of /v/ be added too, or simply give them their own wiki?
No.8517
Anonymous
>>8516
I say they should have their own wiki because they can stand on their own
No.8518
Anonymous
Replies:>>8519
>>2051
and now we know why lmfao
No.8519
Anonymous
Replies:>>8520>>8522
>>8518
We do?
No.8520
Anonymous
Replies:>>8521>>8522
>>8519
tourney was rp'ing as dan right?
No.8521
Anonymous
>>8520
No, he was the Chris McClean rper.
No.8522
Anonymous
Replies:>>8527
>>8519
>>8520
It was TempAnon.
No.8523
Anonymous
Replies:>>8524
>>992
>I love Colette so damn much.
I said this once and I have to say it again.
I love Colette so damn much.
No.8524
Anonymous
>>8523
Yeah /co/lette is good, she deserves the staying power she has had as a board creation.
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I THINK /CO/LETTE SUCKS!
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>>8526
lol
>>8522
ah my bad, I got them mixed up
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Just made a page for Sam and Max. Are there any other characters which need to have their own dedicated page?
No.8612
Anonymous
>>8611
Izzy and Cherri
No.8613
Anonymous
Replies:>>8614
>>8611
Sauce?
No.8614
Anonymous
Replies:>>8615
>>8613
Eh, the gif? That's from Symphony of the Night.
No.8615
Anonymous
>>8614
Thank you.
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Just a few things:

At the moment, every winner (to the exception of Spinel) has been given their own gallery section on their respective page. Should everyone get a gallery too, or just leave it for the champions and some select exceptions? It might sound like a very inconsequential question, but I want to know what other anons think as it has been suggested before. Personally, I'm more inclined to declare it a champion exclusive thing given the wiki already links to the booru a making a gallery for everyone else sounds like a ton of work on top of all the wiki maintenance that's yet to be done.

The other thing I want to mention is that I'm considering doing full personalized brackets for Queen and King of /v/, as long as the current bracket anon for the /co/ tourneys or anybody else interested is ok with me stepping in here.
No.9072
wikifag
>>9066
(Posting to appropriate thread)
i meant learning the text formatting like bolds, italics, links, and templates lol
but yeah, this is a fandom wikia, you have to embrace your inner autism there
IMO it really does depend on how much the contributor knows about the series and /co/ culture, and whether they are motivated enough to actually write it

i personally follow a loose guideline like this:
>here is character from [insert whatever series and their origins]
>here is their general character info
>as a /co/mpetitor, they're blah blah blah
>they are popular on /co/ because [reason], they gained a reputation because [something something tourney history], etc.
>insert tournament history, when they appeared, what results, add notable moments, include some lore-related stuff.

admittedly it does sound dry and boring sometimes. of course not all articles are perfectly written, and there's bound to be wrong or missing info that pops up. unfortunately it all falls solely on the users to correct it.
No.10003
Anonymous
Replies:>>10007
There's a month and a few days until Ms /co/
What should get updated or created?
No.10007
Anonymous
Replies:>>10032
>>10003
Izzy’s page is blank
No.10032
Anonymous
>>10007
If pages are blank or terrible quality and they aren’t Elite 8 or above they should probably be removed. They can always be remade when someone wants to make it
No.10442
Anonymous
RadioAnon/Psyanon here. When I get a chance, I'll make/update the pages for the vocaroos. I noticed some of them were incomplete or missing altogether. Someone mentioned having .mp3 uploads at some point, but it never came up. Is there a reliable place to host the files in case vocaroo croaks?
No.10444
Anonymous
>>10442
Maybe a file sharing site?
No.10479
Anonymous
>>10442
Go on archive.org, make a free account, go to the audio file section and make an archive of all the files at one place (or maybe one per tournament).
Easiest and probably safest way to archive them outside having copies locally stored yourself
No.10722
Anonymous
Most female character pages are up to date, a number of them still need to be slightly updated with format or results but they can be done when the newest ms /co/ results are ready. There's a few character pages that are barely filled out or not at all and might be deleted if no one fills them out after the tournament ends. You can always remake them if you fill it out fully though
If you are going to make a new page for a character who qualified for any tournament, just make sure a decent amount of information about them and their results are there when the page is made
No.11283
Anonymous
sooooo, is anyone gonna tell the wiki the news
No.11285
Anonymous
>>11283
Wikifag here, we’re mostly going to be busy updating character pages. Shirley was in the final so she gets 2nd place, if you are wondering that.
No.11287
Anonymous
>>11283
If this is about Chel and Shirley, I'm not gonna mess with what's on the wiki. Also gonna ask any anons genuinely angry about this year to not fuck with the wiki in general.
No.11445
Anonymous
>>11287
Nvm should Chel and Shirley just be switched?
No.11448
Anonymous
No.11449
Anonymous
>>11445
>>11287
I’m angrier that you’re listening to one guy. Instead of everyone else. There’s one dude on /co/ going thread to thread complaining. How do you know it’s him?
He says the same crap everytime.

If you looked at the post where NSA reveals that placing Shirley in third was not a mistake. You see most of the anons cheering for dabbing on riggers. That thread had the most posters.
https://boards.4channel.org/co/thread/132933033#p132934399

Please don’t be the only one letting them win.
No.11450
Anonymous
>>11449
I'm not a wiki admin which is why I'm hesitant to do the changes myself.
No.11451
Anonymous
>>11450
Didn’t they say in the Ms. /co/ thread on here, they would change it? Or was that you?
No.11452
Anonymous
>>11285
Shirley gets 2nd place. Anon that’s pretty fucked.
No.11458
Anonymous
Replies:>>11467
>>11285
Huh? What kind of cockamamie shit is this? Shirley got to finals by cheating and was disqualified.
No.11467
Anonymous
>>11458
you don’t let a character into finals and then “disqualify” them after the whole thing is over and they’ve already lost
and admittedly we don’t have a precedent for this, but if you’re going to disqualify someone it should entail more than just bumping them down one rank. it would make more sense to mark them as, you know, disqualified. DQ’d.
and you don’t do any of this without having a proper matchup with the real finalists and arguably one for 3rd place as well.
what NSA did is little more than lip service for a problem he knew about but couldn’t be assed to fix. he can say whatever he wants, but the poll results, the rules and procedures of Ms. /co/, and the way in which a bracket works all say otherwise. Rigged or not, Shirley went to finals and lost. Therefore, she is 2nd. Chel lost the semifinals but won the match for 3rd. Therefore, she is 3rd.
No.11468
Anonymous
Replies:>>11477
>>11467
>You don't disqualify a rigging character.
Yeah ok. Nobody wants this.
Also everyone knows the moderators wouldn't allow another thread. There was no way to do a match between them. You've been reposting this nonsense since everyone blew you the fuck out.
Fuck off rig fag.
No.11469
Anonymous
>>11467
You've been trying to change the narrative all this time. This is pathetic.
>>11285
And this is ridiculous. Shirley was in the final because she cheated. We all know it. He showed it. Nobody agreed with letting her through but the cheaters. So now you're saying the host who did a vote and got the overwhelming majority of people saying remove riggers can't remove a character who shouldn't of been there in the first place? That's insane. Wiki guys just make up rules. At least the fuckin host gauged reactions. This is just pulled out of your ass to agree with cheaters.

If you're going to ignore the final result then why not just put whoever you want up there? Since you're going to do what you want anyway. No matter how many anons don't want that.
>>11449
This. There's way more positive replies. And you can tell which negative ones are from the same guy. Then the ones that say Chel should fight Fang don't disagree with the demotion. They just wanted another chance at finals.
No.11470
Anonymous
Replies:>>11477
>>11287
>>11445
>>11469
I think the simplest way to put it is.
>In a tourney. Or competition. If someone has been discovered cheating, are they disqualified and punished?
Pretty obvious answer.
No.11472
Anonymous
>>11285
Ignoring the argument, but the "winning" image with Fang and Shirley was quickly made. Seemed more like trolling. The quality is shotty.The image used for Fang looks bad because it was someone else's then upscaled. The Elite 8 are grey like in Betty Boop's. I just wanted to point that out.
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call me crazy but are the narrativefags, the wikifags and the riggerniggers all the same person/group?
No.11477
Anonymous
>>11468
>>11469
>>11470
if shirley had been removed earlier as opposed nightshift doing 6D chess last minute rule changes we wouldn't be having this conversation.
the conversation we would be having is "can hosts just straight up remove characters they think are cheating?" but that's a lot less asinine than what we have now.
No.11478
Anonymous
>>11475
What's a narrative fag?
No.11479
Anonymous
Replies:>>11481
>>11477
They can now. Anytime they remove cheating votes they are.
I think a host should remove cheating characters. Else we end up with this. The host seeing cheating and being powerless to stop it makes me feel like we should remove all rules.
No.11481
Anonymous
Replies:>>11482
>>11479
removing cheating votes is not removing cheating characters. anyone worth his salt will agree hosts should remove cheating votes, of course they should. and if the character loses because of that, that's perfectly fine. but to remove a character by fiat? that is out of line.
and before you ask what the difference is, in the former case the character's elimination is a consequence of the host's expected duties as a facilitator. the latter is the host directly interfering in the tournament.
and before you say "why are you talking about this it never happened" i know
No.11482
Anonymous
Replies:>>11487
>>11481
I don't even know what you're talking about. Anytime a host removes votes we assume they are being truthful. Removing a cheater before the round ends or after the round ends makes no difference.
When a character cheats and you know it. They are disqualified. This is basic shit that happens in every other tourney. Any host with common sense would do this. People have won and then had their awards removed. I don't even know what you're arguing. Are you saying Shirley and Nichole shouldn't even be on the winner's podium? Then I agree.
No.11484
Anonymous
>>11450
Do it.
No.11485
Anonymous
>>11285
Other tourneys/competitions
>Cheaters discovered cheating and win lose their medal.
4chan tourney
>Cheaters can outright say they're cheating. The audience says kick them out, and wikifags will have them stay on the as winners. Making the competitions and the wiki not match, and leading to confusion for new anons.
Genius idea. So now the wiki is obsolete, and only hurts the reader.
No.11486
Anonymous
>>11477
>can hosts just straight up remove characters they think are cheating?"
That's basically what removing rigged votes is.
No.11487
Anonymous
>>11482
>People have won and then had their awards removed.
yeah, because of shit discovered after the fact. Nightshift knew there was rigging for Shirley and, instead of doing his job and removing the rigged votes, let Shirley move on.
No.11488
Anonymous
>>11487
No, he asked anons what he should do. He discovered her rigging for the first time in round 3. We were all told.
Even then, that's still not a good excuse for why we should let her take second place. This is a pisspoor reason for your defense.
No.11489
Anonymous
>>11487
Didn't you say he removed her placing after the fact? Didn't he discover rigging in the final round? That means by your logic he still did the right thing.
Finding out rigging and removing them.
Also they will void your win even before the match ends. This happens in other competitions.
No.11490
Anonymous
>>11489
He can't even keep his argument straight. This is the retard wikifags are listening to.
No.11491
Anonymous
Replies:>>11574
>>11475
No, I'm completely fine with changing Chel to 2nd place and adding the new e8 image. I'd just like the person who runs the wiki to OK it too or else we might get a Spinel situation with those pages locked down.
No.11492
Anonymous
>>11489
>Didn't he discover rigging in the final round?
he discovered rigging in round 3, and did nothing.
and if he didn't know there was rigging until the final round, then what the hell was up with that gambit with the rules vote?

but fine, maybe you're right. maybe he didn't know about this stuff until the results came in. so why, dear anon, did he not
1. remove the rigged votes and leave it at that, or
2. disqualify shirley entirely instead of just fudging the placements
because again, I wouldn't even be arguing with you if Shirley had been completely disqualified. but she wasn't.
No.11493
Anonymous
>>11492
>he discovered rigging in round 3, and did nothing.
He did nothing because "we" told him to do nothing. Considering how fucking angry people get over these contests and with the hosts I'm not surprised he went with it.
No.11495
Anonymous
CHEL DID NOT COMPETE FOR SECOND PLACE, SHIRLEY DID.
In no honest tournament in the history of man has a new rule been introduced at the exact end of tournament to be used to retroactively disqualify a participant for a previous round. It makes no sense and it's unfair for everyone involved. The moment Fang and Shirley were declared the finalists was the moment the positions were set in stone and nothing can change that. You cannot "demote" a participant.
No.11498
Anonymous
Replies:>>11572
>>11495
yeah what this guy said
No.11499
Anonymous
>>11495
At bare minimum can we get a fucking better e8 image, what's on the wiki is embarrassing comparing to the one the drawfag made.
No.11502
Anonymous
let's just have the wiki show shirley in 2nd in the fan art and have a controversy section where it explains how she also is in 3rd etc etc
I don't think we're ever gonna come to terms on who won what and even though I'm on NSA's side applying the rule change was damage control thanks to not sorting out the rigging in round 3
No.11514
Anonymous
Replies:>>11572
>>11502
What I'm thinking of doing is adding the elite eight pic the drawfag made to Fang's, Chel's and Shirley's pages and noting them as "alternatives". I also wrote about the controversy on Fang's and Chel's entries and I'll add it to Shirley's when I get around to doing hers.
No.11572
Anonymous
>>11492
Shirley was rigging then she shouldn't be in the finals. This is a non argument. You're just saying Shirley needs to be removed. Which I agree with. So regardless Chel gets second place by default.
>>11495
In no tournament has a cheater been allowed to keep their trophies. Nothing is set in stone. You can change who gets what based on that in every tournament. You said this same exact dumb shit before.
>>11498
Samefag
>>11502
Let's just have the wiki not match the tourney. Have the wiki show her in 3rd or completely disqualified then say she was caught cheating. I can't comprehend how stupid you have to be to think this shit would fly in any other competition. Lance Armstrong won 7 awards and had ALL of them revoked. The rule change happened because round three the samefag troll said to let them through, because NightShift couldn't gauge most reactions. Now wiki fags are gauging it based on the same thing we all know is bad. When the final poll said take rigging characters out.
It's so blatant this is trolling. There is no artwork of Shirley or Nichole winning. There is no thread celebrating them. But Chel and Fang have threads cheering them on. There's like 200 ips between them. The after party threads complaining had like 30 ips.
The "winning" image is poorly made. It was quickly made too. Why would someone who truly believes in those results make an image with no effort? Everything about this idea is so dumb you might as well ignore the host, psyanon, and the majority of voters.
>>11514
Basing your decision on trolls instead of us is just ridiculous. The wiki should remove Johnny bravo and put Captain America instead. After all he "won" in the poll. If you think Shirley should get second place because of this logic then Captain America should get first.
No.11574
Anonymous
Replies:>>11580
>>11491
The wiki guy said he was concerned about change wars. But he can lock pages? I don't understand. So he's willing to leave up inaccurate info, and complain when someone trolls and tries to replace it but he can just block them? Does the main wikiguy read these threads or does he operate on his own.
>>11572
I'm going to look at your points.
>More ips agree with the change.
Looking at it yeah. Even here most people seem to be arguing against the wiki.
>Trolls made the final image.
I didn't even notice how bad it looked. But yeah. All asterisk posting was quickly made.
>Other contests would disqualify her
I wonder if NSA thought of this? Because he really should of did it.
>Wiki not matching the tourney it can lead to confusion.
This is a big problem. How will we actually know who won? The threads and the polls will say different. If wiki anons want to make revisionist history then their wiki is less accurate.
>All others but the wiki said Chel is in second place.
Wiki looks mismanaged when you point that out. Like they have their own horse in this race.
No.11575
Anonymous
>>11572
>Nothing is set in stone.
maybe that's the problem. maybe hosts shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want and change rules without asking or telling anyone. maybe, and hear me out, maybe that's been the entire problem with Nightshift from day one.
No.11576
Anonymous
>>11575
What rules did he change? He waited until he got approval by a vote. The letting Shirley in was less legitimate than him removing her.

And again. How do you argue against every other competition revoking awards from a person who was caught cheating. Either during the event or after?
No.11577
Anonymous
>>11575
He waited til anons gave him the abilty to. Then he did. He's been pretty by the book.
No.11578
Anonymous
>>11575
All hosts should have basic powers.
>Check for cheating.
>Remove cheater.

Almost like it an unspoken rule too.
No.11579
Anonymous
Replies:>>11581
>>11576
Listening to samefags is more appropriate than listening to the poll. Lmao.
No.11580
Anonymous
>>11574
>The wiki guy said he was concerned about change wars. But he can lock pages? I don't understand. So he's willing to leave up inaccurate info, and complain when someone trolls and tries to replace it but he can just block them? Does the main wikiguy read these threads or does he operate on his own.
No, I can't lock pages, I'm not one of the admins. I just like making/editing pages. If I was, yes I'd just go with NSA's ruling and change Chel to 2nd and lock a few pages for a month or two so people would chill out. I've been hanging around this thread stupidly hoping someone in charge of the wiki would show up and give us the go ahead to make the changes.
No.11581
Anonymous
>>11579
This. Wikianons just don't have any logic. Even now I don't think there is a real argument against moving Chel to second. I voted Shirley until she was revealed as rigged because of her campaign.
Why didn't Wikianons create a vote if they wanted to get the reactions of voters? Why aren't the wiki guys and the hosts working together?
No.11582
Anonymous
Replies:>>11584
>>11576
>He waited until he got approval by a vote.
he deleted every vote that didn't give him approval
No.11583
Anonymous
Replies:>>11588
>>11580
If wiki guys don't follow this thread why is it up?
No.11584
Anonymous
Replies:>>11602
>>11582
We saw the poll. Even with the cheater's votes in, it still was an overwhelming yes. You just made it obvious you cheated.
No.11585
Anonymous
Replies:>>11590
>>11580
Were you the one in the Ms. /co/ thread saying you'd change it if art was made of the real winners?
No.11586
Anonymous
Replies:>>11587
>>11581
Wikifags went the way of Stats anon. Sad they died in that car accident too.
No.11587
Anonymous
>>11586
I meant to reply to this
>>11580
No.11588
Anonymous
>>11581
>>11583
First of all there is no "wiki guys". We're not like an official branch of the competitions, there's just some of us who consistently show up every now and then to edit the pages. I wouldn't know how to get in touch with any of them if you asked me. But there's nothing stopping any of you in this thread from making the edits, you don't even need an account. I imagine this thread was made for shit like "should this character/event get a page" and questions about codes or whatever, not this shitshow we're currently dealing with. My fear that there would be an editing war is sincere, especially since I don't have the power to lock entries.
No.11589
Anonymous
>>11575
Nothing is set in stone.
The future isn't guaranteed.
We can only live life like today is our last day.
No.11590
Anonymous
Replies:>>11591
>>11588
Anon please answer me.
>>11585
No.11591
Anonymous
Replies:>>11593
>>11590
I don't remember saying that so probably not
No.11592
Anonymous
>>11588
I meant why isn't the guy in charge of the wiki here? Does he read any of this? The hosts have organization and open ways to speak to em. NighgShift has his email on the site just for you to message him. It shouldn't be hard to speak to them especially if they put up this thread.
Not blaming you. It just seems redundant.
No.11593
Anonymous
>>11591
So that might have been them hopefully.
No.11594
Anonymous
>>11588
So you're the only one reading these threads? Damn. I don't want to change the wiki just for them to revoke it and ban me etc. I just want them to answer why they did what they did.
No.11595
Anonymous
>>11588
I feel like an editing war would be caused by one anon. He's been using the wiki to troll so I would correct the wiki then lock it.
No.11596
Anonymous
>>11588
Sorry you have to go through this. But it just feels like a wiki thread made by wiki guys should have the main editor in them. I thought this page would be for telling them mistakes, or asking to add pictures.
No.11598
Anonymous
>>988
Guys it says don't expect fast replies. They'll get to it eventually.
No.11599
Anonymous
Replies:>>11601
One of the ''wiki guys'' here. The admin is "MrMsCo", who was last active three days ago. Don't know if he's actually been in this thread or not. As far as I know the best that could be done (if you feel his approval is necessary) is to message wall him.
No.11601
Anonymous
Replies:>>11604
>>11599
I want to but what’s his email? Message wall him? If you got a link or something I’m willing to do it.
No.11602
Anonymous
Replies:>>11603
>>11584
no you fucking tard, it doesn't matter how much one option won by. if he was deleting votes for the other option, he had clearly made up his mind already. those new rules weren't even supposed to go into effect until the next tournament.
the guy with a history of changing rules behind the scenes changed rules behind the scenes, and he's a turbonigger, and Shirley is in 2nd regardless of what he says because she made it to the finals and that's how tournaments work. if you have a problem with any of this, you can gargle my ballsack.
No.11603
Anonymous
>>11602
Tournaments don’t allow cheaters to keep their place. That’s not how tournaments work.
No.11604
Anonymous
>>11601
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:MrMsCo
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The homepage for the wiki should change it's "Current Ms. /co/ Tournament" to "Latest Ms. /co/ Tournament" and use this image.
No.11633
Anonymous
Just noticed the wiki's color scheme is Jenny. Intentional or not that's cool.
No.11642
Anonymous
So called admin of the Wiki here
>Why were you gone the past week?
I started a new job and have little to no time right now
>Can you update the frontpage?
Done
>What should be done about Chel/Shirley?
Still undecided, I think best case is mark both 2nd/3rd and make a note about the circumstance It's a very tough shell to crack because it's never been done before but you can input your thoughts
>Can you lock ______ or ban _____
I haven't been following edits the past week so I don't know what people want locked or what vandalism is being made, please be more specific with examples
>Can you make ____ have mod privileges
I've tried asking people if they wanted admin privileges before since I'm not super active and they can make the frontpage nice and all and everyone ignored them. If I do I want to make sure it's not some autist like Tourneyanon getting that privilege or making obscene rules or banning people. This is supposed to be a very low-key wiki
No.11649
Anonymous
>>11642
> Still undecided, I think best case is mark both 2nd/3rd and make a note about the circumstance It's a very tough shell to crack because it's never been done before but you can input your thoughts
Shirley 3rd place with an asterisk or disqualified. 4th Nicole too, 5th Brisby as well.
1.)In every competition cheaters during or after are punished. They lose their awards. It’s common sense.
2.)It’s obvious the placement for Shirley is a troll from the samefag. Even the win image is halfassed.
3.)70 to 80% of anons voted to removed cheaters.
4.)I voted Chel and I’m fine she got second place. Rig fags have been trying to ape our name.
5.)Other wiki editors wanted to change the page to the correct girl. There’s 2 on the board saying they would.
6.)The wiki should match the tourney. It’s a record of the tourney. If we were going only by the poll Captain America would be the first Mr. /co/. It’s inconsistent to not follow that now.
7.)This >>11475

Overall I think wiki anons ignoring the ruling sets a bad precedent. The host had a vote for his rule, but the wiki guys just listened to samesfags. Which we all know is an awful idea from seeing Round 3 when NDA did it.
No.11650
Anonymous
Replies:>>11678
>>11649
The 11475 is just saying they have tried to make several excuses pretending to be several groups. None of them make sense.

If anything please just use basic rules etiquette or common sense.
Looking at Lance Armstrong(caught after lost all awards), Ben Johnson, Forsaken(caught during), the list goes on.
No.11653
Anonymous
>>11649
the precedent we should be setting here is “hosts can’t make up new rules and fuck with the results after the tournament is already over” and before you say hosts should remove cheaters or people voted to remove cheaters, no. hosts should remove votes they think are illegitimate, and people voted for hosts to silently remove illegitimate votes. that does not entail any of the bullshit NSA pulled.
The issue at play here, and also in the argument over Fang having an asterisk, is not about cheaters. It’s about NSA being a raging turbofaggot who overstepped his bounds.
No.11654
Anonymous
Replies:>>11666
>>11653
>Hosts shouldn’t remove cheaters
>>11642
This is the retarded argument from the rigging halfwit. If that isn’t the most obvious display of trolling I can’t make it simpler for you.
No.11655
Anonymous
>>11642
The winning image you used shows Shirley in 3rd with an asterix you might as well commit.
No.11666
Anonymous
Replies:>>11673
>>11654
you didn’t even read my post, fuck off
No.11667
Anonymous
>>11653
>hosts should remove votes they think are illegitimate, and people voted for hosts to silently remove illegitimate votes.
I agree that's the best solution, isn't that exactly what NightShift is going to do as for Mr. /co/?
No.11670
Anonymous
Replies:>>11673
>>11667
Maybe but mr /co/ never had rigging iirc except for the very first year with captain skrull, especially since everyone who participates is worthy of the title and not an aggressive waifu popularity contest.
No.11671
Anonymous
>>11572
This. Chel V Fang should have been the final round. Now we have a third placer that should be second or first place and a first placer that could conceivably been second place.
No.11673
Anonymous
Replies:>>11675
>>11666
NTP but you invalidated your argument the moment you said that.
>>11667
Yes. That anon didn't realize that one of the options in the poll was remove rigged votes without alerting anyone. But he also sounds like he's baiting.
>>11670
This. Ms. /co/ has strong autism running amuck.
No.11674
Anonymous
>>11642
I'm going to agree with the anon saying cheaters should be punished. Shirley should not have gotten there. Therefore she should not recieve the accolades. To give her third place knowing all we know is spitting in the face of sportsmanship.

I think saying Chel vs Fang could have resulted differently is the same as arguing Chel vs any of the other contestants she got to skip because of Tyrhanne could have resulted differently. All we can go on is what happened.
Chel "lost" to Shirley, and as unfair as the win was, Chel lost. Fang however beat Shirley.
No.11675
Anonymous
Replies:>>11679
>>11673
So, we can expect things to get better from now on? I mean this new rule is pretty much going to erase 50% of the drama if it's applied and no character gets their reputation tarnished. Only person I don't see applying because he's too ignorant it's Temp.
No.11678
Anonymous
>>11649
>>11650
post >>11475 was a joke btw
Replies:>>11686
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>>11675
Hopefully. People will probably still accused characters of being rigged but that happens in every tournament. As long as hosts don't enter the threads and start talking about it, then we should be good. Only time something good came out of that was rumorposting in last year's King of /v/.
No.11686
Anonymous
Replies:>>11687
>>11679
Who’s hosting?
No.11687
Anonymous
>>11686
Don't know about Mr. /co/ but supposedly Queen and King of /v/ this year will be hosted by NightShiftAnon and LazyDayAnon, although we need to make sure LazyDay isn't just Tourney in disguise. What I want to know is if Geralt can enter this year seeing as the rule that was made to block him out doesn't even apply to him.
No.11690
Anonymous
Replies:>>11697
>>11687
I thought we didn't know who king/queen was being hosted by
I know mr./co/ is definitely nigthshift
No.11697
Anonymous
>>11690
They discussed it over in the /v/ hype thread here: >>9990
Here's their posts in question:
>>11130
>>11158
>>11160
>>11161
>>11163
>>11165
>>11168

Honestly I hope either Sheets or Macho Manon return this year to host because there will inevitably be drama with NightShift hosting unless Mr. /co/ helps improve his current reputation.
No.11700
Anonymous
>>11697
NightShiftAnon hosted last year too. I don’t think most people care as long as he does what he said he wanted to do. (Just delete rigged votes and stay quiet) I’m just glad Fernanon isn’t involved anymore. From what NightShiftAnon said, he just didn’t do anything except drama post. So it looks like he’s learning to not just trust anyone. I never understood why he let him help since Fern was always a self admitted shit head.

I saw he said he was building a host rotation now though. Maybe he plans on retiring by the end of the year? But so far he said he’s hosting all the tourneys this year, and the new host is in training until King /v/alhalla where he’ll take over.
No.11701
Anonymous
>>11697I'm more curious if he'll add the Grandfather rule since tournaments prior to 21 never needed one but with E&I and the new rule it'd probably need to be applied
No.11702
Anonymous
>>11700
I remember NightShift was there last year. He was fine, just posted results and didn't get involved in the threads until after the finals. I know nobody wants Dominos back after how he acted last year in both /v/ and Tag Team. Good thing Fern isn't coming back either, dude did nothing except make the situation worse. What happened to Ghost? He was silent throughout the whole tournament.
>>11701
Who would it apply to? I can only think of the guns and Geralt.
No.11703
Anonymous
>>11702
Ghost is NSA’s personal friend he got to help. Probably just asked him to post threads when he wasn’t there.
>>11700
I assumed he was desperate. Guy said he couldn’t even find a willing host for /v/. I don’t think he’s retiring unless we force him to. Something about passing the torch if he is still unfavorable by the end of the year.
No.11704
Anonymous
>>11687
>although we need to make sure LazyDay isn't just Tourney in disguise
>this lack of activity in the site
Oh no
No.11705
Anonymous
>>11701
The only rule I saw him add was the rig checking rule. /v/ and /co/ tourneys aren’t connected. I don’t think anyone wants the grandfather rule in.
No.11706
Anonymous
>>11704
NSA you better be clearing this guy well. You can’t afford another fuck up like this.
I’d like it if LazyDay spoke to us first. At least introduce yourself.
No.11707
Anonymous
Replies:>>11710
>>11704
NightShift said he is well aware of Tourney’s existence, maybe we don’t have much to worry about in the end.
No.11708
Anonymous
>>11702
Who’s idea was it to remove Geralt?
No.11709
Anonymous
I like nightshift's idea, we need more hosts that can jump in when needed rather than one host for everything
now that being said I've more tinfoil hate theories:
either lazyday is:
Tourney
or
Nightshift in disguise so he can dump one trip for another
No.11710
Anonymous
>>11707
But NSA said he never dealt with Tourney. He never joined the Tag Team shit show. I don’t even know what he did. Dominos apparently knowingly let him help.
No.11711
Anonymous
Replies:>>11712
>>11709
Lazy day and night butted heads when Lazy first showed up. Lazy created a rumor, apologized. Then offered to host /v/‘s tourney after.
I don’t think they’re the same guy, because NSA posted in Lazy’s thread.
No.11712
Anonymous
>>11711
I forgot to add.
He posted in his thread because NSA’s got pruned when his internet cut out. I can definitely see him as tourney though.
No.11713
Anonymous
>>11708
One of the hosts last year. NSA said he was just the sheets guy so I imagine Dominos? The head honcho host gets to veto characters from what Night said here
>>11697
No.11714
Anonymous
Replies:>>11723
>>11708
I can’t remember exactly, but I think it was brought up during nominations because some anons questioned the inclusion of AM and others responded with a justification along the lines of "if the original creator was involved in the vidya adaptation the character in question should be allowed in". Mind you, that was never applied as an actual rule and none of the hosts made a statement regarding it. I personally believe the real reason Geralt didn’t make it was because the hosts either forgot about it (bunch dumbasses) or had no previous context of who Geralt even was (bunch of dumbasses).
Whatever’s the case, both him and AM should be allowed to participate this year since they very much are synonymous with vidya.
No.11715
Anonymous
Replies:>>11716
>>11712
What did tourney do? Rig? Leave? Half ass?
No.11716
Anonymous
Replies:>>11718
>>11715
>he doesn’t know
No.11717
Anonymous
Replies:>>11789
>>11709
Putting my hat on now.
If nsa is looking for other hosts it makes no sense to make yourself the other host alt. Especially in a contest you don’t know. Lazy is just taking over /v/. Which nsa admitted he doesn’t browse enough to host well. He’d be shooting himself in the foot. Ruining two trips. I’d sooner believe Ghost is his alt.
Tourney would be the worst case scenario.
Dominos would be ehh. Coin flip.
Stats?
The original host?
No.11718
Anonymous
>>11716
Spoon feed me pls. Someone said he did what the current host did. But he sounds like the boogeyman from how everyone describes him here. He can’t be worse than the first host of Mr. /co/ right?
No.11719
Anonymous
>>11718
He rigged in tag team. Check the tag team wiki.
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>>11702
>>11708
>>11714
Alright, I searched through the archives just in case and if we go according to this post by Dominos, both Geralt and AM should indeed be allowed to participate. Case closed.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/580590864/#q580597564
No.11727
Anonymous
>>11718
The tl;dr on TourneyAnon/Numnuts Anon/KawaiiSenpai/whatever the fuck he's called is that he's a massive faggot and attention whore who tries to take over tournaments every year so he can rig his favorite characters to win. He's also a RP fag who would try and refuse to let characters enter cause they wouldn't match his RP. Literally nobody wants him here except himself and the only reason why he hasn't been banned is because he's not breaking any rules.
>He can’t be worse than the first host of Mr. /co/ right?
He's worse. That guy at least admitted what he did was wrong and stepped down from hosting ever since. Tourney's ego is too massive to do that.
No.11789
Anonymous
Replies:>>11810
>>11687
>>11704
>>11709
>>11712
>>11717
It was fucking Tourney again
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>Was denied entry into King /v/ because mods were retarded
No.11810
Anonymous
Replies:>>12613
>>11789
Someone better pick up that phone. Because I fucking called it.
No.12585
Anonymous
Just a head's up that some anons might try fucking with the wiki over the Chel/Shirley thing.
No.12613
Anonymous
>>11810
I'm confused because I'm sure as shit sure he used lazyday last year and we figured it out it was him
No.12630
Anonymous
>>12585
snitch
No.12643
Anonymous
>>12585
What happened this time? I didn't vote in the finals due to being busy then.
No.13445
Anonymous
Hey, can whoever has access to the Elite Eight page add Fang's winning picture?
>>11609
>>11610
Replies:>>16044
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Bumping for interest in the decission of starting a wiki for the /v/alhalla tourneys.
Question is, would you rather it is hosted on Fandom (like the /co/ one) or Miraheze?
No.16044
Anonymous
>>16043
Fandom to keep consistency.
No.16049
Anonymous
Probably make some new pages for notable non E8 members such as hades, Godzilla, mothra, shrek, the miser bros, the iron giant, Scotsman, mojo Jojo, popeye, and maybe scaramouch and his history of never making the brackets
No.16054
Anonymous
/v/ wiki is overdue. Goes to show /co/ is more autistic.
No.16065
Anonymous
OK here it is, the King and Queen of /v/ wiki.
https://kingqueenv.fandom.com
I have only copypassted what was already there regarding the tourneys on the Saimoe wiki + very small changes and some essential templates. Most articles still remain out of date.
Anyway, if anybody wants to contribute, go nuts. And the more autistic, the better.
No.16103
Anonymous
>>16065
I'll work on pages for some of the Ko/v/ contestants later since I know that better than Qo/v/. I'll start by updating existing pages that are really outdated like Kiryu and Battler.
No.16107
Anonymous
>>16065
Great work anon, finally someone putting the time and effort into this.
No.16141
Anonymous
Been working on pages for Ko/v/ characters and adding some tournament lore. Let me know if I missed anything. So far I've added:
>Battler always jobbing and his rivalry with 47
>BANS
>Wesker's R63 harem
>Mecha-Chris vs. Wesker
>Grimm's rape dungeon and the wrestling match
>Frank West's bueno compilation
>Ocelot rigging the tournaments
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
No.16176
Anonymous
Replies:>>16229
>>16141
>Kirby Hogan.
>Metal Sonic allowing Orbot to kill him after the former jobbed to Pepsiman.
>>bueno compilation
No.16229
Anonymous
>>16176
I forgot about the filter. Also added.
No.16232
Anonymous
>>16065
I've been working on the King /v/ 2020 page and also updated some of the character templates so that they display the icon and name.
No.16269
Anonymous
Replies:>>16277
>>16141
Don't forget:
>Wright getting that unfortunate Jimmy Neutron post below him
>JACK OFF
>Zant
>Luigi makes it to the elite by doing absolutely nothing
Replies:>>16277
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>>16141
Don't forget us.
No.16272
Anonymous
Replies:>>16277
>>16141
>Red killing no one before being ejected during an emergency meeting during both the main tournament and the Murder Games.
No.16273
Anonymous
>>16141
>Scout taking N's hair and his game
>Pretty much all Batter's matches
>AM and the Brazillian
No.16275
Anonymous
>>16273
>>AM and the maioria silenciosa.
FIFY.
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>>16269
Added along with furry fucker Edgeworth. Tomorrow I'll add Zant and >>16272. I'll do some character pages for Queen soon.
>>16270
Not until you rape NSA like you promised
>>16273
Should I link the game too while I'm at it?
No.16279
Anonymous
Replies:>>16287
>>16277
>Should I link the game too while I'm at it?
Ye, and if you feel like it, link the previous version as well, I think older versions are all linked in the old booru.
No.16280
Anonymous
Replies:>>16287
>>16277
Should there be pages for the Murder Games for both /co/ and /v/ wiki? I mean it's starting to become a thing that will be done annually if Zorak is still around to make more.
No.16286
Anonymous
Replies:>>16287
>>16277
Here are some characters with thread presence but not qualified that I can think of
>Minato Kageaki (BALANCEDMAN)
>Cheshire (useful nigger)
>The Judge (useless nigger)
>Yami Yugi
>Koishi
>Zacharie (presented in 2021)
There's probably more however
No.16287
Anonymous
Replies:>>16292
>>16279
Added both the game and the AMV
>>16280
Maybe, although they should probably be added to the /co/ wiki first since iirc the first one was after Tag Team 2021
>>16286
Can't say I really remember Yami Yugi or Zacharie, but I can add the others along with Torres and Philemon. I'll do those first then I'm gonna work on pages for the rest of the Elite Eight.
No.16292
Anonymous
>>16287
>Yami Yugi
The whole rape saga, also almost qualified with votes but then he would also be ruled out.
>Zacharie
Was very prevalent as a writefag and a merchant member back in 2021
No.16293
Anonymous
>>16292
I didn't writefag this year as Zacharie since I was writefagging as another character, and next year will as another one
No.16294
Anonymous
>>16292
>The whole rape saga, also almost qualified with votes but then he would also be ruled out.
Right of course. I never saw Yu-Gi-Oh so I thought it was just Yugi Muto.
>Was very prevalent as a writefag and a merchant member back in 2021
Gotcha, I'll look back through the archives for reference
No.16296
Anonymous
>>16294
Another detail is Yogi Bear mocking Yugi and Ranger Smith trying to get Yogi.
No.16298
Anonymous
>>16294
There are some Zachrie writefag screencaps in the booru as well
No.16299
Anonymous
im gonna write a page for milhouse btw
No.16300
Anonymous
>>16299
Milhouse is Ejaculating Fish-tier. He doesn’t deserve shit.
No.16302
Anonymous
>>16300
This
If you want to make his page, just make it in /co/ wiki
No.16303
Anonymous
>>16299
out of all the inside jokes and memes we had this year alone, milhouse doesn't deserve his own page
besides he's not even a meme
No.16304
Anonymous
>>16300
Give ejaculating fish a page cowards
No.16325
Anonymous
Good work so far
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>>16141
>Geralts dilemma and his relationship with AM
Replies:>>16383
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Gotta get started on the Team Schizo page soon probably, any suggestions is welcomed
No.16383
Anonymous
>>16380
Alright there I made the page with some information. I haven't used Fandom in ages and I'm an ESL so there bound to be some grammar errors in it, the formatting is confusing as shit I'd appreciate if someone can make me a member list template
No.16449
Anonymous
When is Fang going to get her asterisk?
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>>16449
No.16516
Anonymous
Replies:>>16560
>>16449
on the wiki? never. spinel doesn’t even have one.
No.16560
Anonymous
>>16516
She deserves it more than spinel
No.16562
Anonymous
Get over it.
No.16571
Anonymous
Replies:>>16572
>>16560
I agree, just not on the wiki.
Replies:>>16575
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>>16560
>>16571
I don't think there is a character in the tournament history more worth of the Asterisk than Spinel.
The fuck are you on about?
No.16573
Anonymous
Replies:>>16579
>Numnuts is unbanned
>complaining about Fang comes again
No.16575
Anonymous
Replies:>>16576
>>16572
spinel wasn't handed a free win by the host
No.16576
Anonymous
Replies:>>16578
>>16575
Free win?
Free what nigger?

Spinel had one of the most plainly rigged win to ever have been recorded. The tournament she was in had the largest amounts of votes by far in literally any tournament with a vote count of 1800+ which still hasn't been broken since then. /v/ only now is reach anywhere NEAR that amount, a board which is twice as active as /co/.
No.16578
Anonymous
Replies:>>16581
>>16576
>Free what nigger?
free win, nigger. unless you forgot what happened in the final round? when NSA imploded the entire tournament for a gotcha? fuck off.
No.16579
Anonymous
>>16573
I was complaining about Fang before Numnuts got unbanned.
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>>16578
What would've happened then?

Oh lets just give the win to the next participate which was... Either the second most rigged character in the tournament history or the girl who lost and got the third place. Don't get me wrong, I would've loved Chel winning but Fang had everything going for her, she would've won either way.
No.16586
Anonymous
Replies:>>16591
>>16560
The only real contention against Fang is that everything post R3 was too tainted and she would’ve lost under another circumstance. But if we’re to take her stomping Raven as legit then she would’ve won regardless.
No.16587
Anonymous
>>16581
>Either the second most rigged character in the tournament history or the girl who lost and got the third place.
Accepting both these factors is inheently self-contradictory and you know it. If Shirley was rigged, her victory over Chel is illegitimate. If her victory is legitiimate, she wouldn't have been a bad winner. Pick a side.
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>>16587
>she wouldn't have been a bad winner.
No.16589
Anonymous
>>16587
Chel wasn't gonna beat Fang m8, it wouldn't matter. I do agree with giving Chel 2nd over Shirley however.
No.16590
Anonymous
>>16587
I could name 30 character that would've been a better winner than shirley. Thank fucking god Fang won, for at least she is actually interesting memorable unlike shirley who even couragefags had a hard time to remember.
No.16591
Anonymous
Replies:>>16595
>>16581
>she would've won either way
>>16586
>she would’ve won regardless
>>16589
>Chel wasn't gonna beat Fang m8
keep coping, Fang's win will never be legitimate
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>>16591
Sorry, I didn't know we had someone so butthurt about Fangs win this late.
No.16602
Anonymous
>>16595
You know see the side effects of shoving up a Chel figure up your ass for nothing.
No.16619
Anonymous
>>16595
>you're dumb for caring about this. i don't care (even though i cared enough to respond)
No.16636
Anonymous
Who cares, where's battler?
No.16648
Anonymous
>>16636
In the waiting room.
Replies:>>16750
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No.16725
Anonymous
Replies:>>16758
>the butthurt about Fang winning is from the guy who shoved Chel up his ass
It’s beginning to make sense
No.16746
Anonymous
>>16636
JOBBler
Replies:>>16767
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>>16689
Except Dimes 47 always higher than Jobbler
No.16757
Anonymous
>>16589
>Chel wasn't gonna beat Fang m8, it wouldn't matter.
You don't know that Fangfag.
No.16758
Anonymous
Replies:>>16786
>>16595
>>16725
Are you the same guy who made the thread complaining about Shirleyfags last week? Look, it probably upsets you seeing people shit on your main, but it's inevitable that whenever a dinosaur wins a beauty pageant for le ebin memes, not everyone is going to be satisfied with it.
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>>16750
I dunno about that 8 man
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>Someone added an Asterisk to Spinel's page
No.16786
Anonymous
>>16758
>reply to two different people
>accuse them of being a specific person you don’t like
>be wrong on that front too
I don’t care that people shit on my main, because she won and there’s nothing that their impotent seething can do. I just thought it would be funny if the guy who is butthurt still ended up being the guy who shoved Chel in his ass.
No.16866
Anonymous
If any of you don't like all the ads and shit that Fandom has just look for and install this script called "Fandom - Remove Garbage"
No.16979
Anonymous
>>16771
And thanks to them the page is now locked to everyone again.
No.17513
Anonymous
Replies:>>17880
>King crowns are actually colored after their color scheme
Nice
No.17880
Anonymous
>>17513
It's a nice little detail
No.17907
Anonymous
>>16771
Based.
No.19126
Anonymous
New tag tournament needs a page.
No.22364
Anonymous
Tournament Finals ranked from farthest to closest apart in voter difference

Qo/v/ 2020
Reimu vs. Tifa Lockhart: 854-535
Difference: 319 votes Total: 1389

Ko/v/ 2020
Dante vs. Raiden: 793-527
Difference: 266 votes Total: 1320

Ms/co/ 2019
Spinel vs. Raven: 976-790
Difference: 180 votes Total: 1760

Ko/v/ 2022
Garland vs. Frost: 662-492
Difference: 170 votes Total: 1154

Mr./co/ 2019
Kronk vs. Grim: 354-212
Difference: 142 votes Total: 566

Mr./co/ 2018
Johnny Bravo vs. Captain America: 234-106
Difference: 128 votes Total: 340

Ko/v/ 2021
Batter vs. Dr. Eggman: 759-659
Difference: 100 votes Total: 1418

Ms/co/ 2020
Dr. Mrs. The Monarch vs. Queen Tyr'ahnee: 450-352
Difference: 98 votes Total: 802

Ms./co/ 2022
Fang vs. Shirley: 520-428
Difference: 92 votes Total: 948

Ko/v/ 2019
Senator Armstrong vs. Doomguy: 465-384
Difference: 81 votes Total: 849

Qo/v/ 2019
Samus vs. Fio Germi: 255-184
Difference 71 votes Total: 439

Mr./co/ 2022
Zorak vs. Carl Brutananadilewski: 282-216
Difference: 66 votes Total: 498

Mr./co/ 2021
General Grievous vs. Hank Hill: 265-201
Difference: 64 votes Total 466

Mr./co/ 2020
Tom vs. Daffy Duck: 261-222
Difference: 39 votes Total: 483

Qo/v/ 2022
Midna vs. Hornet: 638-600
Difference: 38 votes Total: 1238

Qo/v/ 2021
Recette vs. Madotsuki: 575-556
Difference: 19 votes Total: 1131

Ms./co/ 2018
Jenny Wakeman vs. Starfire: 164-145
Difference: 19 votes Total: 309

Ms./co/ 2021
Betty Boop vs. Johanna: 335-325
Difference: 10 votes Total: 660
No.22365
Anonymous
>>22364
Forgot to add
Average voter difference for finals per tournament (rounded)
Ms. /co/ = 80 votes
Mr. /co/ = 88 votes
Queen of /v/ = 112 votes
King of /v/ = 154 votes

Average voters in finals per tournament (rounded)
Ms. /co/ = 896
Mr. /co/ = 471
Queen of /v/ = 1049
King of /v/ = 1185
No.22366
Anonymous
Replies:>>22367
>>22364
>Midna vs Hornet
>38 votes
That's still going to sting for a good two years
No.22367
Anonymous
Replies:>>22374
>>22366
Hornet can come back even stronger, the worst thing that could happen outside of Silksong being a disappointment is complainfags ruining her chances through metagaming.
No.22369
Anonymous
Replies:>>22378
>>22364
>Difference: 180 votes
>>>>Total: 1760

Some people still unironically try to defend Spinel in this day and age.
No.22374
Anonymous
Replies:>>22376
>>22367
She's a runner-up anon, she'll literally never win now
No.22376
Anonymous
Replies:>>22379
>>22374
A runner-up has to win at some point. Fans of them will eventually get frustrated enough and metagaming is (thankfully) starting to be looked down upon especially after Ms. /co/ 2021.
No.22378
Anonymous
>>22364
>>22369
Reimu's total blowout win looks kind of bullshit too. Touhou are worse than SU too, closer to pony level autism. But i don't think anyone -unironically- defends Spinel. Even her fans embrace that she was the legendary gigga rigga.
No.22379
Anonymous
Replies:>>22381
>>22376
Oh anon, 2nd place comeback will just be another form of metagaming. The tournaments are long since mutated into a game. The metagaming will never stop.
No.22380
Anonymous
>>22378
Yeah, I don't know how to feel about that one. I know Touhou's is probably 4chan's favorite videogame and /v/'s Genndy tournament equivalent, but this was finals where Tifa just took out a character that beat another Touhou and metagaming spite should have shown a lot more like it does with Samurai Jack. I don't think Tifa could have possibly won though and I haven't really participated in /v/ tournaments so I don't know how different the culture is in them.
No.22381
Anonymous
>>22379
No, that is called giving a character their dues.
No.22384
Anonymous
Replies:>>22385
>>22364
damn king /v/ has some pretty boring voter differences
No.22385
Anonymous
Replies:>>22387
>>22384
I also just realized it's the only tournament to suffer from a decrease in voters from 2021 to 2022, jack-off truly is the worst finale that could've happened kek
No.22387
Anonymous
Replies:>>22394
>>22385
t. Chaos
No.22388
Anonymous
Replies:>>22390
>>22378
>Touhou are worse than SU too, closer to pony level autism
That's kinda too much, Touhou aren't banned anywhere else
No.22390
Anonymous
Replies:>>22395
>>22388
I didn't say they were even, but they're somewhere in that gap. New franchise limitation rules were basically created because of them.
No.22391
Anonymous
>>22364
Nice. Let me do my own calculation. Here's proportionally how close each match actually is:
1. Johnny Bravo vs. Captain America: 37.65%
2. Kronk vs. Grim: 25.1%
3. Reimu vs. Tifa Lockhart: 22.97%
4. Dante vs. Raiden: 20.15%
5. Samus vs. Fio Germi: 16.17%
6. Garland vs. Frost: 14.73%
7. General Grievous vs. Hank Hill: 13.73%
8. Zorak vs. Carl Brutananadilewski: 13.25%
9. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch vs. Queen Tyr'ahnee: 12.22%
10. Spinel vs. Raven: 10.23%
11. Fang vs. Shirley: 9.7%
12. Senator Armstrong vs. Doomguy: 9.5%
13. Tom vs. Daffy Duck: 8.1%
14. Batter vs. Dr. Eggman: 7.1%
14. Jenny Wakeman vs. Starfire: 6.1%
15. Midna vs. Hornet: 3.1%
16. Recette vs. Madotsuki: 1.7%
17. Betty Boop vs. Johanna: 1.5%
No.22394
Anonymous
>>22387
Cope.
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>>22390
That you mention, It’s weird that Homestuck’s aren’t that prevalent in Ms. and Mr. /co/. I know their time has long since passed but they can still very much be and in fact are active in some stealth threads around the site and especially in /aco/.

It’s not like it has no presence at all, we’ve seen homestuck in these tournaments since they first started but never caught onz
No.22396
Anonymous
Replies:>>22399
>>22395
Homestuck's lack of presence should not come off as weird at all. The comic was already starting to show signs of fatigue ten years ago and most of the original fanbase has been driven away. The fact there’s an unposken rule about it being banned from /co/ only adds salt to the wound. If the tournaments had started around 2011-2014 its cast would have been a huge playing factor, but nowadays the best you can aim for is having them qualify, like how Sn0wman qualified for Ms. /co/ 2018.
No.22398
Anonymous
>>22364
>>22391
Damn Kronk was fucking strong, he demolished most of his opponents.
No.22399
Anonymous
>>22395
>>22396
Gamzee from Homestuck was very close to making it into tag team this year. Only losing due to not being successfully nominated before Vulture and Penguin.
No.22678
Anonymous
Think we should have a page for statistical trivia like the win percentages and records. Call it "statistical records" or something.
No.22713
Anonymous
>>22364
>>22391
>all of top 4 closest finals were from female tournaments, 3 of which go below in 5% difference
>ms. /co/ has the highest voter count ever
>queen /v/ has the highest voter count difference ever
Based, waifubros we once again reign supreme on both sides
No.22714
Anonymous
Replies:>>22718
>>22713
lol
lmao even
No.22715
Anonymous
Replies:>>22725
I know we're not counting the Tag Tournaments but didn't Tag Tournament 2020 end with a 1 vote difference, wouldn't that make it the closest? (forgot the number of votes in the 2019 one)
No.22718
Anonymous
Replies:>>22719
>>22714
I accept your concession
No.22719
Anonymous
>>22718
Anyone who says Ms. /co/ is better than any of the other tourneys is a dumbass.
No.22725
Anonymous
Replies:>>22730
>>22715
Yes, that is our closest finals result yet. Frankly I'm surprised Betty VS Johanna was as close as it was.
No.22730
Anonymous
>>22725
Betty's 1% heroic victory should be legendary.
No.22745
Anonymous
>>22713
I don't think closeness necessarily makes either one better or worse. It can be argued the other way, that male tournaments have more definitive winners cause people just vote for their favorite characters and have a better ideal what they want, vs. the waifu wars and compromises of the female tournaments.
No.22748
Anonymous
Replies:>>22751
What's the biggest blowout in history? The biggest one I can recall is Chel beating Joy Kaplan by 93.7%. Did /v/ ever have a bigger one than that?
No.22751
Anonymous
>>22748
The biggest one /v/ had seems to be Samus Aran vs. Megumi with Samus winning by 91.1%
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Out of curiosity I decided to check which characters got the most OC throughout all the tournaments we have had so far. This is only a list summing up what’s in the different boorus, which might not account for duplicates/reposts and potentially missing OC so it doesn’t give the most precise numbers.


>Mr. /co/
Grievous: 98
Kronk: 57
Samurai Jack: 45
Courage: 39
Hank: 35
Marvin: 34
Grim: 32
Carl: 29
Skeletor: 28
Zorak: 27

>King /v/
Batter: 323
AM: 208
Grimm: 157
Eggman: 142
Spamton: 105
Battler: 100
Wesker: 96
Travis: 75
Wario: 55
Phoenix: 50

>Ms. /co/
Fang: 207
Tyr’ahnee: 70
Emmy: 58
Betty Boop: 53
Shirley: 50
Gwenpool: 43
ENA: 41
Chel: 40
Monarch: 35
Mrs. Brisby: 33

>Queen /v/
Recette: 121
Midna: 103
Hornet: 100
Madotsuki: 95
Alice: 69
Cirno: 59
Buddy: 56
GLaDOS: 52
Ashley: 47
Alipheese: 45

Idk if info like this should be documented on the wikis but I thought it was interesting. Also bumpan.
No.32344
Anonymous
Replies:>>32345
>>32341
Interesting. But yeah booru's are far from 100% accurate, especially since there was gatekeeping on the /co/ ones and a lot of writefagging doesn't make it.
No.32345
Anonymous
>>32344
I'm hoping we get a plus booru for this year's.
No.32346
Anonymous
>>32341
>queen contenders at the top are the winners and runner-ups of the last two years respectively
>everyone else with the exception of Buddy has made top 5
>only king finalists with a noticeable amount of OC are Batter and Eggman
>half of the list hasn't made semifinals even once, some of them not even top 8, in spite of competing with the girl finalists in OC
The anon who said King is the tournament with the more silentfagging is completely right
No.32347
Anonymous
Replies:>>32350
>>32346
Grimm and Battler's issues are more that they are trying to win over the audiences of waifufags than silent majority.
No.32350
Anonymous
Replies:>>32353
>>32346
I don't think it's inherently wrong to vote for characters you feel represent /v/ more rather than voting for whatever is the most popular in the threads.
>>32347
Battler's problem is people still want to keep the jobber thing going even on /tnt/.
Grimm is just that he's a kind of a massive who for most.
Replies:>>32354
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>>32350
>Battler's problem is people still want to keep the jobber thing going even on /tnt/.
<Good.>
No.32354
Anonymous
Replies:>>32357
>>32353
I would love for her to be the Umineko winner. She will be my main this queen and I might do some stuff for /v/illains.
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>>32354
We all know I'd be a way better winner than Battler. After all, I am the detective.
tbh I don't see her qualifying in Queen, although I'll still be campaigning for her. She's also my number 1 pick for /v/illains, and I'll be campaigning a lot for her there.
No.32360
Anonymous
Replies:>>32366
>>32357
I'll be supporting you guys.
No.32363
Anonymous
Replies:>>32366
>>32357
I hope I can realise most of the ideas I have for my guys.
I also decided that Dedede will go to the villain tourney undercover
No.32365
Anonymous
>>32346
Queen is pretty comfy, yeah :)
Replies:>>32367
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>>32360
Thank you for your support. I'm hoping to win /v/illains so I can rub it in Battler's stupid face.
>>32363
I already know what I'm gonna do for my picks in Heroes and /v/illains, so I just gotta hope Dracula and Frank West's opponents have Gmod models.
No.32367
Anonymous
>>32366
Some of it will be match dependant, but I do have general ideas for how everyone will generally work.
No.32384
Anonymous
>>32341
>Batter
>AM
>Grimm
Schizo trio...
No.32712
Anonymous
Replies:>>32713
>>32341
Will we ever see someone superpass Batter?
No.32713
Anonymous
Replies:>>32714
>>32712
Only if he wins, so no.
No.32714
Anonymous
>>32713
>he
Who?
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>>32714
me just woke up, me read l where no l is
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>>32714
He means me, of course.
No.32733
Anonymous
Replies:>>32736
>>32732
So Dracula is never gonna win, got it.
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>>32732
vampires are shit
No.32736
Anonymous
>>32733
>implying Dracula wants to win when he actually just wants Grimm to lose
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Since we're talking about Elite Eights and I didn't know where to put this, here. This year, it will be possible for every tournament besides the new ones, Ms. /aco/, and /co/-/v/ if that happens to have a character make Elite Eight for the third time.

Queen:
>Shantae
>Roll
>Fio

King:
>Wario
>Kazuma
>Heavy

Ms. /co/:
>Kim (2018, 2020)
>Starfire (2018, 2020)


Mr. /co/:
>Shaggy (2018, 2020)
>Samurai Jack (2018, 2021)
>Aku (2018, 2021)
>Jameson (2018, 2021)
>Hank (2019, 2021)
>Skeletor (2019, 2021)

Tag-Team:
It had no elite eight barring rule outside of the top 4 in 2019 and characters can come back with different teams the next year
>Wallace (2019, 2020) both with Gromit
>Gromit (2019, 2020) both with Wallace
>Bert (2019, 2021) both with Ernie
>Ernie (2019, 2021) both with Bert
>Alastor (2020 with Bill Cipher, 2021 with Chris McLean)
>Tyr'ahnee (2021 with Marvin, 2022 with Mirage)
>Izzy (2021 with Cherri Bomb, 2022 with Sticks)

Chel is the only character to make it 3 times in a single tournament. If we count all the tournaments
>Skeletor (Mr. /co/ 2019/2021, /co/-/v/ 2022 with Papyrus)
>Daffy (Tag-Team 2019 with Donald, Mr. /co/ 2020/2022)
>Samurai Jack (Mr. /co/ 2018/2021, Tag-Team 2019)
>Wallace (Tag-Team 2019/2020, Mr. /co/ 2020)
>Tyr'ahnee (Ms. /aco/ 2021, Ms. /co/ 2020/2022, Tag-Team 2021/2022, /co/-/v/ 2022 with the Shadow Queen)
>Shantae (Queen 2019/2021, Ms. /aco/ 2021)
>Glados (Queen 2019/2022, /co/-/v/ 2022 with One-One)
>Wario (King 2019/2021, /co/-/v/ 2022 with Eddy)
>Phoenix Wright (King 2019/2022, Co-op 2023 with Miles Edgeworth)
have all made it 3 or more times

And for fun, the characters to win a tournament and make an Elite Eight are
>Johnny Bravo who won Mr. /co/ 2018 and made Elite Eight with Samurai Jack in Tag-Team 2019
>Kronk who won Mr. /co/ 2019 and made Elite Eight with Yzma in Tag-Team 2019
>Zorak who won Mr. /co/ 2022 and made Elite Eight in /co/-/v/ 2022 with Ridley
>Max who won Tag-Team 2019 with Sam and made Elite Eight in Mr. /co/ 2022
>Tyr'ahnee who won Ms. /aco/ 2021
>Doomguy who won /co/-/v/ with Charlie and made Elite Eight in King 2019

So if your favorite character or team has to ever face Tyr'ahnee, you better start praying.
No.33178
Anonymous
Replies:>>33180
>>33177
Update to characters to win a tournament and make Elite Eight
>Jenny who won Ms. /co/ 2018 and made Elite Eight in the Ms. /aco/ 2022 make-up
>Fang who won Ms. /co/ 2022 after making Elite Eight in Ms. /co/ 2020
>Midna who won Queen 2022 after making Elite Eight in Queen 2019
No.33179
Anonymous
>>33177
Next King /v/ we'll be seeing Heavy and Scout returning with an extra member to the fold. It is guaranteed that they will enter Elite Eight next year and considering that every mercs will be eligible for it since 2019, they have the highest odds of winning.
No.33180
Anonymous
Replies:>>33182
>>33178
>Samus who won Queen 2019 and made Elite Eight in Ms. /aco/ 2021
No.33181
Anonymous
Replies:>>33184
>>33179
I feel like Jack and Aku are guaranteed too for Mr. /co/. I don't who could make Ms. /co/ Elite Eight since it's a mess every year and I don't really pay attention to Queen much.
No.33182
Anonymous
>>33180
There should be some sort of phenomena name for this.
No.33183
Anonymous
>>33179
TF2fags getting real cocky right now...
Replies:>>33185
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>>33181
Aku is guaranteed, Jack will lose in Round 3 again or even earlier
No.33185
Anonymous
>>33184
I'm actually hoping Jack does better than Aku. I don't care much for either, but Jack's campaign is usually better.
No.33186
Anonymous
>>33177
>So if your favorite character or team has to ever face Tyr'ahnee, you better start praying.
Unfortunately she jobs. You're probably headed to the finals if you beat her though.
No.33187
Anonymous
Replies:>>33198
>>33183
I mean how can't they?
They will have every heavy hitting merc eligible this year.
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>>33177
Legitimately what the fuck is up with people having an hard boner for Tyr'ahnee? I fucking loved Duck Dodgers as a child and even when it re-aired and I loved it while growing up. While she isn't exactly a bad character by any means she gets fuck shat on by Duck Dodgers just by being there and I wholeheartedly consider Marvin to be superior and yet for some reason Tyr'hanee is one of the most dominant characters present in any tournament period.
No.33189
Anonymous
Replies:>>33203
>>33188
>attractive
>badass
>good dynamic with Marvin and Daffy
I'm kind of biased because I love Looney Tunes, but I don't mimd Tyr'ahnee being a heavy hitter. I do agree Marvin is better and I think just about everyone would agree with you on that. I assume you are comparing them because of how it's kind of an unspoken rule in these events that there can only be one winner per franchise. I am surprised there still hasn't been a Looney Tunes winner in the main /co/ tournaments or a year where at least two make Elite Eight at the same time. It seemed like for awhile Daffy would be the one to take the win but Duck Match autism or his posters getting too cocky much like the actual character always gets him in the end. It actually does seem like Marvin will be the one since Wile is a jobber, Bugs suffers from the Mario/Sonic syndrome of being considered the too basic choice so usually being outdone by his supporting cast, and Tyr'ahnee is held back after winning Ms. /aco/. Kind of off-topic, but on the subject of Bugs, I'm kind of curious about what franchises other anons don't want the star character to win. Personally, I would have to go with Kirby and would rather have Dedede or Meta Knight win.
No.33198
Anonymous
>>33187
You TF2Fags said similar fucking shit last year in preperations.
No.33201
Anonymous
TF2 character predictions:
>scout comes back with another good campaign
>heavy is near to completely silent (is the only one to reach Elite 8)
>ENGINEER GAMING
>other mercs don't get nominated/enough votes, except for pyro who gets into queen again for some reason
>none of them win, obviously
No.33203
Anonymous
>>33189
>I'm kind of curious about what franchises other anons don't want the star character to win.
I think if Castlevania were to have a winner, Dracula would be the best one since he makes a lot more appearances in the series than someone like Simon or Alucard, although usually I don't care a whole lot about a star character doing better than a different character from the same series. I usually really like the star characters that do well or win, like Grim, Dante, and Kiryu.
No.33205
Anonymous
>>33183
>>33198
I don't think it's them being cocky, rather them just looking at the trends.
No.33208
Anonymous
Replies:>>33209
>>33198
Lets be honest, they got fucking robbed in King /v/ 2022. The Soldier campaigner got fucking cucked out due to the new elite eight rule and spy didn't even have a chance to be nominated.

>>33201
Don't forget the Administrator, it was surprisingly a fan-favorite in Queen /v/ in the qualifiers and round 1. I wouldn't doubt her coming back this year with better results.
No.33209
Anonymous
>>33208
Pretty sure that Spy had the same chances as literally any other character. People just forgot.
No.33212
Anonymous
>>33201
I'm gonna try and see if I can get the pure sex witch from the TF2 gigaleak into bracket, anyone wanna assist me?
No.33214
Anonymous
>>33212
>wasting a character slot for a non-character
just don't complain when other character do not qualify
No.33215
Anonymous
>>33212
Scouts mom actually made it seed 73 in Queen /v/ and only was disqualified due to the three character rule. I wouldn't doubt that with a little campaigning the pure sex witch would go some rounds in... in sacrifice of one of the three TF2 character we already have.
No.33404
Anonymous
>>33188
She resembles the silent majority a bit.
No.34974
Anonymous
Replies:>>35049
Would anybody mind adding some more meat to the bones of the /v/ wiki? It's kinda lacking atm
Queen's side in particular is quite barren, Midna's page doesn't even list her as the winner of 2022 yet!
No.35049
Anonymous
Replies:>>35115
>>34974
Do it yourself
No.35115
Anonymous
>>35049
Okay :[
No.35135
Anonymous
Replies:>>35140
Should /aco/ get a page or mention on the /co/ or /v/ wiki's?
No.35140
Anonymous
>>35135
/aco/ is obviously on /co/
/an/ on /v/ cause animals are vidya culture
No.49779
Anonymous
Now that /v/illans has ended, I can finally ask the question.
Thoughts on moving all wikis into one big, definitive one? I feel like, with the tourneys starting to intermingle with eachother 'n stuff (cov) + spinoffs like /an/imal kingdom, it might be necessary soon.
Plus we could move it to something that isn't Fandom.com
No.49780
Anonymous
Replies:>>49790
>>49779
I've seen some wikis move to wiki.gg to escape Fandom's bloat.
If you merge the tourney wikis and move all of them there, it could work out.
No.49790
Anonymous
Replies:>>49795
>>49779
We should definetly merge all of them under one wiki
>>49780
I think wiki.gg is only for games, don't know if there are any other good hosting services we can use
No.49795
Anonymous
Replies:>>49796
>>49790
Miraheze exists, it's used by that one /dbs/ wiki and also TFR (wrestling autism)
No.49796
Anonymous
>>49795
https://miraheze.org/
No.59804
Anonymous
Should we add stuff from Heroes/Villains to wikis?
No.59807
Anonymous
No.59808
Anonymous
>>59804
Maybe
No.59809
Anonymous
No.59820
Anonymous
Replies:>>59825
>>59804
iirc the unofficial rule is you can mention other contests in an individual character's page but that character needs to qualify in Ms./Mr. /co/ to get their own page.
No.59822
Anonymous
>>59804
Sure. Tag-Team is on the /co/ wiki & some characters on the /v/ wiki are side-gig exclusive. The new wiki apparently will also include stuff for /aco/ and /an/ so leaving these out would just feel weird
No.59824
Anonymous
Do it on Miraheze please
No.59825
Anonymous
>>59820
With a couple exceptionally memey cases like Incidental 87, Wilkins, and the Goldfish
No.60504
Anonymous
Oh yeah, remember to update.
No.61918
Anonymous
I'm trying to create a contestant powerlevel chart (tourney performance-wise) going off the Ms. wiki and my God is it fucking shit. Half the pages haven't been updated since 2021 or even 2020, the 2022 page doesn't even have the bracket and some like Gwenpool's page have blatant formatting errors nobody bothered to fix in years. What a mess.
No.61921
Anonymous
Replies:>>61922
>>61918
How you calculating that?
No.61922
Anonymous
>>61921
I just have a few tiers, no big calculations, though maybe I could look into the winning percentages to rank them within the tiers but I'm not feeling autistic enough for that right now.
No.61923
Anonymous
>>61918
There's a WIP performance table for the male contestants, at least.
No.61936
Anonymous
>>61918
Hey, be glad your wiki even has anything on it. /v/'s barren as hell. I'd try to help update it but I have little idea how fandom works and I'm waiting for that merger we talked avout
No.61937
Anonymous
Replies:>>62007
Do we really need to include the barred and bottom stuff on the wiki pages for the tourney's?
No.61947
Anonymous
>>61918
Going to go and update every character over the coming weeks, it shouldn't take so long
No.62007
Anonymous
Replies:>>62050
>>61937
I mean why not? If this were /v/ 2022 I'd disagree but after this Ms. /co/ I'd say it's worthy enough.
No.62048
Anonymous
Replies:>>62050
>thread is now speculating GayAssScribbles is actually NSA
No.62050
Anonymous
>>62007
Should be it's own page tbh.
>>62048
I don't really agree with what the page says either. Little too positive.
No.62170
Anonymous
Wikibro's, how we doing this?
No.62187
Anonymous
Replies:>>62188
There's both mediawiki.org and the previously mentioned miraheze.org, I know of wikis that use both so I'll be looking into which one is the most functional with the bracket format and post the link here in the following days.
Also should the name just be '4chan Tournaments Wiki'?
No.62188
Anonymous
Replies:>>62189
>>62187
That would make sense.
I also remember finding another general tournament wiki a couple days ago that had a dangerous lot more on it. Like the Tumblr sexyman contests and several anime forum ones . 4chan was also on there but quite outdated tho
No.62189
Anonymous
>>62188
I think youre talking about this one
https://saimoe.miraheze.org/wiki/Saimoe
yeah I saw it and none of mr /co/ after 2019 was updated, i also don't really like the format lol but I'll still see how each of the wiki 'engines' compare to one another
No.62216
Anonymous
I don't see how a new wiki solves any issues. In terms of lack of updating it makes the issues worse by trying to over-expand
Hi all. May I request a change to the 'announcement'? I can see from the link that it's the botched version I accidentally gave out first. I understand if keeping it how it was when it happened for posterity is the intention, but the corrected version changes none of the numbers or answers, it just removed the editing mistakes so people in the future won't be confused. Whichever route you choose, I'll understand.

https://voca.ro/1gPDzPrPgJbx
No.62318
Anonymous
Guess now we start working on that chimera wiki.
No.63519
Anonymous
Loona is now the first character to win two tournaments and she has never made it past round 1 in Ms. /co/. That's funny.
No.64493
Anonymous
Replies:>>64498
Anons in the Mr. /co/ threads suggested making an all encompassing tournaments wiki on Miraheze for both /co/ and /v/. Thoughts?
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>>64493
It's up.
https://4chan-tournaments.fandom.com/wiki/4chan_Tournaments_Wiki
>Why are you not using Miraheze you fucking idiot
I think it's safe to say we actually are using Miraheze but those require an account + pre-registration which a guy currently awake at 12:15 doesn't exactly have atm. This'll be a temporary thing to light the fire under our tuchuses into making the wiki conversion into a real thing
No.64518
Anonymous
Replies:>>64549
>>64498
Cool, so we just write whatever articles in this until we move to an independent wiki, then when we do all the articles we write here will be transferred over?
Also I take it we'll be transferring the articles already on the Mr/Ms /co/ as well?
No.64549
Anonymous
>>64518
Actually I'll just wait for the independent wiki to be created before I start writing stuff, it shouldn't take that long and then I don't have to deal with Fandom's trash site design at all
No.64621
Anonymous
So uhhh any ETA on that new wiki
I want to get it nice and ready for when Queen of /v/ starts in 2 weeks
No.64765
Anonymous
So when does this new Miraheze wiki starts?
No.64794
Anonymous
>While not having as many firsts, Zim was notably the first Nickelodeon character to ever reach the finals of a tournament.
Jenny?
No.64795
Anonymous
>>64794
Ayyyy kek
No.64796
Anonymous
>>64794
They should have put first male Nickelodeon character
No.64797
Anonymous
GayAssScribbles more like DumbassScribbles
No.64806
Anonymous
Whenever the Miraheze wiki goes up I'll start moving a ton of pages from the old wikis over there.
No.64811
Anonymous
Replies:>>64812
>>64806

Will you sent the link once it's done?
No.64812
Anonymous
>>64806
>>64811
Miraheze only allows people to request a wiki, not create one, so someone willing to manage it needs to send a request.
No.64856
GayAssScribbles
>>64794
Okay, yeah, that was my bad.
No.64870
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>64876
Dumb oversight aside, I'd be more than happy to move away from Fandom. It's an awful site and I mainly just tolerate it because of lack of alternates. Mainly been trying to keep the old wiki at least somewhat updated on the main tournament and E8 pages since I haven't seen much in that way outside my edits, even if I haven't been able to get around to every portion of the wiki (particularly character pages). I was going to give Dale and Farquaad pages tonight, but if we're onboard with Miraheze I'd be happy to just hold off until that's up.

In terms of the last two Ms. /co/ pages, happy to have someone revisit those as well. I tried to keep it neutral and not go too hard into all the shit, but at the same time I can fully understand how those are flawed. I know people in the tournament threads were discussing the 2022 page back when that had just gone down. Certainly something that might be nice to have several people overlooking.

First time really catching wind of this thread, so just wanted to clarify on that real quick.
No.64876
Anonymous
Replies:>>64891
>>64870
I used to edit but I just can't tolerate Fandom's garbage site design anymore, but I do appreciate you keeping the wiki maintained.
By the way is there someone already in the process of getting the independent wiki created? I'm ready to get to work on it but I don't know what the ETA's looking like, >>64498 are you on it by any chance?
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>>64876
>are you on it by any chance?
I kinda put it off for a while due to worries that Miraheze might not be the best choice + thinking someone might do it first but fuck it we ball
Does this look like a good application to you guys?
No.64894
Anonymous
>>64891
Looks good, hopefully we get reviewed and approved soon so we can get things in order in time for Queen of /v/, which shouldn't take too long since most of the work is just going to be copying things over from the old wikis
No.64900
GayAssScribbles
>>64891
Looks pretty competent. Small grammar notes: would lowercase "much" and add a period at the end. Could also mention that these tournaments have been going on and growing in number + prominence since 2018, but up to you whether you think that's fluff or not. Otherwise assume that's up to request standards.

On a side note, we're just going to ignore Queen and King of /v/'s minor presence on the Miraheze wiki for Saimoe, right? Seems to be pretty incomplete for the most part (linked page doesn't even show the 2022 results on it) and just mainly copy off the Fandom wiki, but wanted to at least mention it.

https://saimoe.miraheze.org/wiki/King_and_Queen_of_/v/
No.64907
Anonymous
So we going ham on the lore in this one? The existing one is mostly a formality with some page exceptions.
No.64919
Anonymous
Will there be articles for concepts like campaigning, metagaming, and silent majority?
No.64923
Anonymous
Replies:>>64979
>>64919
I've long thought there should be an article devoted to statistical record stuff too.
No.64979
Anonymous
>>64919
This could be made under one single "Terminology" page, outlining those concepts as well as other popular terms like FARTS that new tourney goers and /v/ tourists might not be familiar with the meaning of
>>64923
Sure but what specific stats should we list? Ties seems like a pretty obvious one as there have been surprisingly quite a few of them over the years
No.64981
Anonymous
>>64979
>Sure but what specific stats should we list?
Stuff like biggest win margins, highest cumulative win percentage, biggest comebacks/fall offs, biggest seed upsets, oldest/newest character winner ect.
Have it per each board tourney.
No.65037
Anonymous
>>65036
Fuck.
No.65039
Anonymous
Replies:>>65164
>>65036
Oh but Chads of /a/ is fine huh?
No.65040
Anonymous
Replies:>>65164
>>65036
Wait. Don't the /dbs/ guys have their own Miraheze wiki?
No.65041
Anonymous
>>65036
>have to send in a request to make wiki
>denied as "toxic"
You told me this was better than fandom.
No.65042
Anonymous
>>65036
Yeah not surprising
No.65043
Anonymous
Replies:>>65425
>>65036
This reads like something only a person already familiar with the tournaments would say kek
No.65044
Anonymous
>>65036
The tournaments are usually pretty chill by the site's standards, especially with /v/. Certainly a shame then.
No.65045
Anonymous
Replies:>>65046
Well then. What now?
No.65048
Anonymous
Replies:>>65164
Chads of /a/? More like Chads of Miraheze now.
No.65052
Anonymous
>>65036
This guy definitely voted for Zim
Replies:>>65056
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>>64498
>>64891
>>65036
In other news, theming on the FANDOM page has been updated. I'd prefer not to use it but eh
https://4chan-tournaments.fandom.com/wiki/4chan_Tournaments_Wiki
No.65055
Anonymous
Replies:>>65057
>>64891
This form is worded like shit, no wonder it got rejected.
No.65056
Anonymous
Replies:>>65065
>>65053
So we just import everything to this now or what.
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No.65059
Anonymous
I know we're talking about moving to a new wiki but Fang's victory screen was never uploaded even after this year's were added lol.
No.65065
Anonymous
>>65056
I guess? I know people don't want to use Wikia but I don't see any other choices now.
Anyone know any other Wikia alternatives?
No.65066
Anonymous
>>65065
Can't we just move what's is in the /v/ wiki over to the /co/ one and rename it?
No.65067
Anonymous
>>65065
The only other ones I know of are Wikidot and wiki.gg, but the latter is exclusively for video games.
No.65068
Anonymous
Replies:>>65164
>>65065
MediaWiki?
No.65108
Anonymous
Replies:>>65109
>>65066
This would be nice as a last resort, or if we can't rename it then there's always the second wiki.
No.65109
Anonymous
Replies:>>65110
>>65108
I'm pretty sure the wiki admin can change the name and URL.
No.65110
Anonymous
Replies:>>65122
>>65109
Mainly wondering if said admin is active or not.
Replies:>>65122
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Okay, unrelated to the current wiki project, I find it hysterical in hindsight how someone commented this on Skeletor's page.
No.65122
Anonymous
Replies:>>65167
>>65110
>last active may 2023
Well even if he isn't active right now it's not such a bad thing, it means we can get our independent wiki
Which hopefully will be soon, I am really itching to have it ready for the /v/ tournaments
>>65121
>Skeletor ended up winning his tournament
>Shego ended up jobbing in round 3
I guess they both broke the curse albeit in completely opposite ways
No.65164
Anonymous
Replies:>>65166
>>64794
Plus Nickelodeon rather than Nicktoons.
>>65036
>>65039
>>65040
>>65048
>>65065
There are WikiForge and WikiTide. BTW, I heard Miraheze is going to be kill soon so I recommend to warn the /dbs/scholars.
>>65068
More of an engine.
No.65166
Anonymous
Replies:>>65237
>>65164
>I heard Miraheze is going to be kill soon
Huh? Why?
No.65167
Anonymous
Replies:>>65199
>>65066
That sounds the most plausible route. However as >>65122 pointed out, he's only last been on in May of this year. It's not impossible to get in contact with the guy but it may lead into a dead end.

Alternatively maybe just try Miraheze again
No.65199
Anonymous
>>65167
Yeah but if what the one guy said is true and Miraheze is kill soon this could be questionable, also I have a feeling they would deny our request again
WikiForge and WikiTide both seem like decent enough options now that I look at them, maybe we can give those a try
No.65237
Anonymous
Replies:>>65247
>>65166
>>65199
AVID recently moved to the former and Polcompball Wiki will move to the latter this month.
No.65247
Anonymous
>>65199
>>65237
Going to second these. While I would tolerate Fandom if necessary, if there's any alternate I think we should take it. Only feel the site's going to get worse and worse over time.
No.65275
Anonymous
Replies:>>65278
Putting it out there however unlikely it would seem, but there's always the option of hosting MediaWiki on a server if someone's willing to pay.
No.65278
Anonymous
>>65275
MediaWiki is more like an engine.
No.65303
Anonymous
Seeing as how WikiForge or WikiTide are likely what we're going with, I figured I'd write a description of our wiki as they will likely have a request form similar to Miraheze in case whoever is creating the wiki wishes to use it:

"This wiki is dedicated to storing information, records, and data from image board hosted tournaments dedicated to comics, cartoons, and video games. Originally started in 2018, they have been held every year and attracted a large, active, and dedicated community, with thousands of original artwork pieces, written works, songs, and other original creations specifically dedicated to these tournaments.
As a large amount of data, information, and history is involved in these events, a Fandom wiki (https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._and_Ms._/co/_Wiki) was created. However we have decided Fandom is no longer right for our needs, and with new tournament content releasing in less than a month, we hope you will consider hosting our wiki. Thank you."
No.65306
Anonymous
Replies:>>65307
>>65303
This wiki is meant to be for all tournaments, not just /co/ and /v/.
No.65307
Anonymous
>>65306
Yeah I know that's my bad I forgot to list that, just amend that part to be "tournaments dedicated to a variety of subject matter such as comics, cartoons, video games, nature, history, and more."
I'm actually hoping to get an article started on the /an/ and /his/ tournaments when the wiki's up, seeing as how I participated in both and frequent both boards. Maybe one day we can include anime and television/film in that list too (fat chance i know).
No.65394
Anonymous
Replies:>>65418
Is the guy who was going to set up the Miraheze wiki still willing to try WikiForge/Tide?
No.65418
Anonymous
Replies:>>65422
>>65394
Yeah, I'm still here. Sorry. Just spent the day hanging out with my family. Also I'm hesitant to send another application becuase I feel the Miraheze rejection was partly my fault
No.65422
Anonymous
Replies:>>65424
>>65418
They said "oh, just give us two or three sentences" and denied it off the logic of everything 4chan = toxic (despite hosting /dbs/ apparently). Maybe borrow some of the formalities off >>65303, but I feel it was partially just Miraheze's staff having some weird logic.
No.65424
Anonymous
>>65422
They host the TFR wiki too, which was born out of /v/, so it's doubly weird that they weren't willing to host a tournaments wiki.
No.65425
Anonymous
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Alright, I'm gonna wait until I wake up tomorrow to submit this. any corrections feel free to tell me
No.65449
Anonymous
>>65448
Looks pretty solid. Was going to say the Weird Roleplay mention might be a red flag to them, but considering some of the content that should be covered if that's the case then I feel this wouldn't be a good host anyways.

In hindsight, it would be both hilarious and sad if the Miraheze staff immediately turned down that application because the wiki's name has 4chan in it.
No.65451
Black Hand ## Developer
Replies:>>65467
If you don't have anywhere to put it, we can host your wiki on a plus4chan subdomain, as long as you have someone to maintain it both for content and technical side.
No.65467
Anonymous
Replies:>>65477
>>65451
Sounds reasonable. What would the technical side entail?
No.65471
Anonymous
>>65470
link to the new wiki here: https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page
Replies:>>65494
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>>65470
Nice! This is the one then?
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Main_Page
Looks like we'll have Black Hand's offer as a backup in case anything happens to this for whatever reason, but I reckon we'll be fine since we're only adding tourney stuff anyways. I'm going to bed but when I get up I'll get to work on it.
To people wanting to move stuff from the other wikis they have a guide for both Fandom and Miraheze: https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Help:Migrating_to_WikiTide
No.65473
Anonymous
>>65470
Wonder why it wasn’t “toxic” this time.
No.65474
Anonymous
>go create an account
>"Account creation error: Your IP address is in a range which has been blocked on all wikis."
Up to a great start.
No.65477
Black Hand ## Developer
>>65467
I can give you a subdomain and a database, but you'd need to install all the software and maintain/administer it yourself. I'm not familiar with wiki software, any customization, spam control, etc would fall on whoever takes the job.
No.65480
Anonymous
Replies:>>65486
>>65474
Maybe you could try using a free VPN to quickly bypass it.
No.65481
Anonymous
>>65474
I'm getting it too
Wiki guy see if you can contact Wikitide and ask if there's some way to disable this IP range ban crap on our wiki, I'd rather not have to e-mail their support just to make an account
If all else fails we can always fall back on the plus4chan subdomain idea, assuming someone is willing to set it up
No.65482
Anonymous
Will SaiGAR 2007 and 2008 be added?
>>65477
I think we don't need your help anymore.
No.65483
Anonymous
Replies:>>65485
>>65482
Considering we're already running into problems maybe keep that offer on the table until we see how things turn out with this
No.65484
Anonymous
No.65485
Anonymous
>>65482
I second what >>65483 said keep that offer open, you never know when trouble might spring up again.
Replies:>>65488
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>>65480
>>65481
>>65484
I emailed them about the issue and they almost immediatly responded with an account already made for me and a temporary password to activate it. Seems it's a common problem for new users to run into.
No.65488
Anonymous
>>65486
I looked at their issue tracker and another wiki is having problems with account creation today, I guess that's just our luck to make our wiki on the day their account creation is crapping up
https://issue-tracker.wikitide.org/T34
Anyways I guess I'll just e-mail them until they fix this
No.65489
Anonymous
>>65474
>>65481
>>65484
Maybe maintenance or the like? I made mine just yesterday and it was perfectly fine.
No.65494
Anonymous
>>65472
>we still need the admin to request a XML dump of the Fandom wiki in order to migrate
aaaaaaaaaa
No.65496
Anonymous
>>65494
two admin technically!
wait what's preventing us from just copy and pasting?
No.65503
Anonymous
Replies:>>65504
>>65494
Someone could leave a message on his wall, it's a long shot but maybe he'll get notified
No.65504
Anonymous
Replies:>>65505
>>65503
I was about to create a support ticket through Fandom's support system and request that an updated dump be generated along with an image dump "for backup".
No.65505
Anonymous
>>65504
That works too
No.65539
Anonymous
>registration is no longer messed up
Good, and also I noticed that the Fandom main page got updated by the admin, so hopefully now that he's active again he finds this and we can get started on the process of migrating
No.65554
Anonymous
Replies:>>65573
Any progress on the wiki?
No.65555
Anonymous
does psyanon have discord
No.65556
Anonymous
>>65555
his email is in his trip
No.65557
Anonymous
>>65473

I guess NOT mentioning 4chan will be allowable for their standards.
No.65558
Anonymous
>>65557
>>65473
Yeah, I think was actually the problem.
No.65559
Anonymous
>>65557
>>65558
I think it was because Miraheze used to be associated with those reception/Qualitipedia wikis.
No.65560
Anonymous
When will fang finally get her well deserved asterisk
No.65562
Anonymous
>>65560
On opposite day.
No.65565
Anonymous
Replies:>>65572
>>65560
Even Spinel doesn't have an asterisk. It's something that's become more shorthand for candidates with rigging behind them and shouldn't really be a formality.
No.65566
Anonymous
Replies:>>65572
>he's here
Replies:>>65575
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>>65565
While I agree Spinel and Shirley deserve it, part of NSA's statement this year about something we missed still grinds my gears about those who deserve it. How do you wait literally ONE YEAR to say "Hey guys you know what? It turns out Nicole was only rigged for one round forgot to say that" and through all that time everyone and their mothers think she was rigged the whole tourney. I know the reason behind the asterisk was because it was her pass to the elite 8, but that doesn't change the symbol alone makes anyone think she was rigged entirely compared to Shirley and Spinel. I hope these two are the only subjects of the asterisk in the new wiki. While I dislike Fang her victory was more thanks to her FOTM status and hype AT THE TIME and that alone made her a bad winner in my book, but not a rigged one.
>>65566
Unlikely it's IC, but I wouldn't be surprised with people pushing the asterisk meme for funposting.
No.65573
Anonymous
Replies:>>65574
>>65554
Not much yet seeing as how we're waiting to get the XML dump from the Fandom wiki, shouldn't be long since he became active again a day ago and someone already posted on his message wall about the wiki migration.
That being said what about importing the Miraheze content? The /v/ content is arguably the most important to get up to date right now since Queen of /v/ is in a little over a week.
>>65555
psyanonradioanon@gmail.com
>>65558
I mean "4chan tournaments" is literally the name of the wiki, I just feel like Miraheze has more anal managers
No.65574
Anonymous
Replies:>>65580
>>65573
There’s a XLM available already.
No.65575
Anonymous
Replies:>>65576
>>65572
No one on the wiki should be getting an asterisk. It was never a real thing and NSA trying to force it at all long after the fact is retarded.
No.65576
Anonymous
Replies:>>65577
>>65575
Then how we acknowledge the obvious Peruvian rigging of 2019 or the things he said about Shirley and the others? If there are alternatives that aren't an asterisk, it would be fine but neither should be ignored the fact these characters were obviously rigged.
No.65577
Anonymous
Replies:>>65578
>>65576
Just explain on the pages like it already was. Making asterisks an official thing opens up a can of worms. I'd rather we not start validating this autism from the last five years.
No.65578
Anonymous
>>65577
I think this will open a new discussion in the threads when the wiki is introduced. I don't worry that much about /v/, but /co/ will definitely throw an autistic fit towards the idea of removing asterisks for the articles and tournament's archives to explain it is rigged. Especially the guy who pushes for asterisks.
No.65579
Anonymous
>>65578
>/co/ will definitely throw an autistic fit towards the idea of removing asterisks for the articles
There's autistic fit to be had because no wiki article has asterisks to begin with.
No.65580
Anonymous
Replies:>>65582
>>65574
Where? For Miraheze or Fandom? I was under the impression we needed the Fandom admin to get it
No.65581
Anonymous
>>65578
None of the articles had asterisks.
No.65582
Anonymous
>>65580
Fandom.
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Statistics
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>>65582
>Noodle hasn't been in a Ms. /co/ since 2021
I was discussing back in the threads about this. Some pointed out it had to do with her looking like an old woman nowadays, which is the true because she's early in her 30s but somehow looks older.
No.65584
Anonymous
>>65578
Now that you being up the topic, what would be the reaction in /v/ to a Shirley or Spinel situation? I’m aware of the Fuhrer and Snoot Game Fang dramas from 2021, but I’m talking about a full blown rig job being confirmed.
No.65585
Anonymous
>>65582
Great, I think all we need now as far as the /co/ portion of the wiki is for whoever the administrator is on the new wiki is to import the dump at https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Special:Import and we'll be good to go
https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Help:Migrating_to_WikiTide#Importing_on_WikiTide
Until then how about the Miraheze /v/ articles? I don't see how we'd get those specific articles imported, so maybe just copy them over manually?
No.65590
Anonymous
Replies:>>65594
>>65584
Something like that won't happen with a tournament so big and with Balls in charge
No.65593
Anonymous
>>65584
/v/ is much more aggressive so I think they'd just crash the tourney before it concluded.
No.65594
Anonymous
Replies:>>65597
>>65590
Anon, Ms. /co/ until this year was at the same level as King and Queen.
No.65595
Anonymous
Replies:>>65619
>>65585
Wait, who is the Administrator of the new wiki anyways?
No.65597
Anonymous
>>65594
NTA but I think he meant the number of votes. /v/ allows 1000 voters compared to /co/. If anything the biggest problem there is silent majority.
No.65599
Anonymous
>>64919
>>64979
Created a page for this while I wait for the /co/ wiki to be imported, feel free to add more to it
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Terminology
No.65600
Anonymous
>>65599
Is the term "campooner" allowed? I honesty have no clue what it even means.
No.65603
Anonymous
Replies:>>65608
>>65600
"Campooner" is a buzzword that means "I don't like that this character I don't like has fans that are actually talking about them in the threads.".
No.65605
Anonymous
Should we include certain mentioning notorious persons/schizo's?
No.65606
Anonymous
Replies:>>65608
>>65605
No. How is this a question?
No.65607
Anonymous
>>65605
>Should we [give faggots even more incentive to be obnoxious so they can be immortalized like in the Chadsof/a/ wiki]
No.
No.65608
Anonymous
>>65603
Campooner seems to be intended as a sort of a derogatory term for campaigner-centric tourney anon's over popular/silent types or whatever, with an obvious play on "oomer" posting. Also applied to characters that get over much higher than they would've on their base popularity and appeal. But mostly it seems to be used as a funpost thing against certain campaigns.
This also kind of brings up if we want to include tourney phil and meta perspectives and all that.
>>65606
It's tourney history and could be a warning. It could maybe be useful for distinguishing fags like cumnuts and fuse. Probably shouldn't have an individual page for that though.
No.65609
Anonymous
Replies:>>65611
>>65608
If they REALLY do warrant a page than it should only be a single one for all of them, IF they warrant a page.
No.65610
Anonymous
The only tourney personality that warrants a page is Fusefag.
No.65611
Anonymous
>>65608
>>65609
They don't warrant a page period but I will compromise by saying you can add the concept of a "schizoposter" to the terminology page, explaining what one is and the type of posts they make without getting into any individual schizofag
Again please do not name names or otherwise give recognition and attention to thread derailing faggots lest you spawn more of them
No.65619
Anonymous
>>65595
Believe it’s DoctorAnon. Seen them around.
No.65621
Anonymous
>>65585
Messing around, main problem right now with non-imported articles is that there is currently no groundwork for templates. Until we have all that brought over, it's going to be a pain in the ass and just cause more issues afterwards.
No.65622
Anonymous
>>65599
>First things added to the new wiki is tournament meta and campaigning
Can't say I'm surprised
No.65623
Anonymous
Replies:>>65631
>first character to gave a page is jack garland
Bullshit
No.65624
Anonymous
>>65600
We should allow it because I found it funny.
No.65631
Anonymous
>>65623
AFAIK this is mostly meant as a /v/-focused wiki since they were asking for one for a long while
No.65634
Anonymous
Replies:>>65639
>>65631
Assume they don't like him being the first character to get a page, in which case I can say it was simply a matter of convenience more than anything. A lot of the character pages for /v/ need serious work, even more than /co/.
No.65639
Anonymous
>>65631
No, this is meant for every tourney, not just one board.

>>65634
Nah, I just thought it was funny how one of the first things added to the wiki was a page for him.
No.65640
Anonymous
>>65639
>Nah, I just thought it was funny how one of the first things added to the wiki was a page for him.
Ah, fair enough then. I did read the "bullshit" in this voice, but couldn't tell if that was the intent or not.
No.65646
Anonymous
>>65639
Well it'll include all, but it seems most heavy interest is in having some stuff for /v/ for the first time
No.65675
Anonymous
Replies:>>65676
Don't forget to include SaiGAR 2007 and 2008.
No.65676
Anonymous
Replies:>>65678
>>65675
We'll likely need a second row on the mainpage for that, stuff hosted here like Tag-Tam and stuff like /an/ or /his/
No.65678
Anonymous
>>65676
And /m/, /aco/, /mlp/ and the tournaments from here.
No.65679
Anonymous
>>65600
Maybe make it a subsection of "campaign."
Added asterisk. Any other major lingo? Psyop and schizo maybe? Psyop is sort of covered by falseflagging.
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No.65682
Anonymous
>>65680
Seems legit.
No.65686
Anonymous
>>65680
I mean it's a Dante, just not the right one for that page.
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HOLY SHIT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Replies:>>65694
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>>65680
Yes.
No.65690
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65691
>>65680
Okay, so what happened looking into it is that for some reason the wiki pulls certain images off Wikipedia. The Wario pic also matched with his Smash emblem until it was overridden.

To be honest, it's almost so funny that I want to leave it SOMEWHERE on the wiki as a joke. Almost.
No.65691
Anonymous
>>65690

Maybe near the end of Dante's page and the text reads "Shit, wrong Dante!" or something like that.
No.65694
Anonymous
>>65680
>>65689
We should this pic for Emperor of /his/ 2024.
No.65703
Anonymous
>pushing the lmao thing
Don't know about that one, Lorifag.
No.65710
Anonymous
Replies:>>65718
>>65703
it was suggested in the current ms/mr /co/ offseason thread
lorifag seems to have a decent memory
No.65714
Anonymous
Are we redoing the character template format? Certainly possible, but would be good to at least clarify sooner than later since it's going to require a fair bit of overhaul after the /co/ content is (hopefully) transferred later.
No.65715
Anonymous
Replies:>>65771
>>65703
Just another attempt in trying to fit in and have his Tard House characters get this tiny fraction of relevancy.
No.65718
Anonymous
Replies:>>65722
>>65710
It's been around like a minute and I've only seen him bring it up. If it's gonna be tourney terminology it should at least be a long-established thing.
No.65719
Anonymous
Replies:>>65819
The wiki admin (MrSirTheThird) made a test page around four hours ago. If you're in this thread, would be really nice to hear a word on >>65585.
No.65722
Anonymous
Replies:>>65723
>>65718
I hope we don't add or acknowledge shit like FARTS or DTVA when the latter it's not even a creative name and it's just the same people shilling for the same three shows.
No.65723
Anonymous
>>65722
>still butthurt
No.65725
Anonymous
Replies:>>65726
>>65723
>projection
Lol, lmao
No.65726
Anonymous
Replies:>>65727
No.65727
Anonymous
>>65723
>>65726
Nice reply. It's on the same rank of shit such as naming your "team" after Disney's animation studio. Bravo
No.65728
Anonymous
No.65729
Anonymous
Please stop guys! We need to work, not to fight.
No.65730
Anonymous
Replies:>>65731
>>65727
No one named it, that's just what it ended up being called. I think you went over this in another thread, friendo.
No.65731
Anonymous
Replies:>>65736
>>65730
>No one named it
>It ended up named in a shitty way anyways hehehe
Manolo
No.65732
Anonymous
Replies:>>65733
Hey, did the wiki admin or whoever is adding the /v/ info make sure to do the /co/ transfer before he starts adding shit and changing template formats?
No.65733
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65765
>>65732
I'm deliberately tiptoeing around making any /co/-related templates until that happens. Can't speak for others.
No.65734
Anonymous
>there's now anti-DTVA schizo
No.65735
Anonymous
>in my head
No.65736
Anonymous
>>65731
The name DTVA is pretty lackluster but FARTS deserves to be discarded and forgotten completely for being anti-campaign with the sole purpose of ruining heavy hitters such as Frankie.
No.65737
Anonymous
Replies:>>65738
imo if we're keeping FARTS then DTVA should also remain. They're acronym memes that people ask about. (L)MAO should go unless it becomes in actual thing in time (i. e. more than Lorifag posts it).
No.65738
Anonymous
>>65737
No one wants one or the other besides maybe Amityfag for DTVA. FARTS was a nasty method to get rid of Raven, Toph, Frankie and the others.
No.65739
Anonymous
Replies:>>65743
>>65738
I recall there was another team but I don't know if it was a genuine teamwork or an anti-campaign in disguise. It was CTK or something, I only remember Kim Possible being part of that team
No.65740
Anonymous
Replies:>>65741
>>65738
It's not really about if it's wanted or not. It's if it's become "terminology." I don't FARTS either but it's undeniably influential and thrown around a lot. DTVA's clearly become a widespread term too.
No.65741
Anonymous
Replies:>>65743
>>65740
It's influential for all the wrong reasons and constant spam by trolls. Not acknowledging its existence anymore will do a great favor for the characters in it. At least DTVA is only inaccurate rather than fully malicious.
No.65743
Anonymous
Replies:>>65749
>>65739
I think it was SCK coalition, but I'm 90% sure it was pushed by one guy and caught on with no one.
>>65741
This brings up an angle for debate about the wiki in general. There are some things undeniably important in tourney "lore" but not so good. And there were some complaints the previous wiki was too positive at points. Persoanlly i think it's alright to at least give mention to some of it. I see the wiki as basically an archival of everything reasonably relevant. But it should walk a fine line of being derogatory itself. If Toph had just been voted winner this year this wouldn't be a problem anymore btw.
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I expanded the main page. If I forgot something (especially names), reply me.
No.65746
GayAssScribbles
>>65744
/an/ is missing its tournament. (Believe it's called /an/lympics? Someone in this thread please clarify that.) Otherwise I think you got everything. Personal preference though: I'd probably move down some of the tournaments to a second row. It's kind of scrunchy right now.

Noticed that it seems about any page is open to edit. That may or may not be a problem.
No.65747
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65827
>>65746
Never mind, I just saw /an/.
No.65748
Anonymous
Replies:>>65827
>>65744
You should make an account.
No.65749
Anonymous
>>65743
>And there were some complaints the previous wiki was too positive at points
I skimmed through the /v/ wiki before and some of the entries there are good examples of articles that need some revamping in the form of extra context. The tourney pages really don’t go into any detail at all compared with /co/ (E8 debuts, NSA fucking up and such).
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>>65746
Don't let Lorifag (aka Jackie 2.0) get what he wants. I will handle this myself.
No.65752
Anonymous
Replies:>>65754
So we just waiting for the import of all the /co/ wiki stuff? In the meantime I can make some pages for some side tourney's.
I also propose we get some formal name for the male and female /co/ and /v/ tourney's. Maybe simply listing them under "main tourney's"? Or the "originals"?
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*blink* Thanks for adding the Hunger/Murder Games to the new wiki. Can I make a question? What will happen to the other two wikis after the import is completed?
No.65754
GayAssScribbles
>>65752
Main problem with the import wait is that it's hard to make any templates right outside of tournament or board-specific ones, most apparent at the start of the tournament pages right now. That's unless we elect to outright have a template for each board, although I find that highly unnecessary.
No.65755
Anonymous
Replies:>>65756
>>65753
Saimoe is still its own thing however long it lasts. It may or may not cover Queen and King on its own, although once everything is imported over whatever happens on Saimoe won't really be relevant to the 4chan tournament wiki. The Fandom ones can't be deleted due to that site's policies, so it's safe to assume they'll just sit there dormant.
Replies:>>65827
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>>65755
Backup plan I see? I may need to do a recap of how many Murder Game winners there are. Let's say:

Mr. /co/:
John Silver 2022
Peter Griffin 2023

Ms. /co/:
Zatanna 2022
Raven 2023

Queen of /v/:
Krystal 2022

King of /v/:
Donkey Kong 2022

Tag-Team champions:
Pathetic (Hal Jordan and Ben 10) 2021
Scratch and Grounder 2022
No.65757
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65765
Alright, got icons and templates up for all of the Queen and King E8, along with starting imports for the tournament pages up to 2022. There's a lot of work left clearly, but it's a start.

Hopefully the wiki admin is able to get the transfer done soon.
No.65765
Anonymous
Replies:>>65766
>>65757
>>65733
I'm in the same boat of holding out on making any new templates or /co/ related pages until the /co/ wiki import but since there's plenty of /v/ material to cover it's not too big of a deal just yet, though it is a bit inconvenient not having the old wiki tournament info templates. If you want I can help out with making the /v/ character image templates seeing as there's an absolute asston of them. >>65470 you're the admin of the new wiki right? If you see this make sure to get started on importing the Fandom /co/ wiki.
No.65766
GayAssScribbles
>>65765
>If you want I can help out with making the /v/ character image templates seeing as there's an absolute asston of them.
That would be a huge help! Even with the Elite Eight out of the way, there's still hundreds to get through. I've just been taking them off the old Saimoe Wiki since it's the easiest route.

https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/King_of_/v/_2021

Might know already, but just in case you can reconvert any image from a WEBM (at least relevant ones to the wiki) back to its original format by putting "&format=original" at the end. Only other note is that templates on the new wiki seem to be adding the character name with a page link after the pic. Don't believe the pic templates are ever used outside that format, so might as well.
No.65771
Anonymous
Replies:>>65772
>>65715
Honestly I can kinda to that dude relate a little
Nothing stings more then nobody giving a shit about a character you're autisticly obsessed with
No.65772
Anonymous
>>65771
Same I've had some characters too that don't do well but now thanks to the side tourneys within the main ones I don't feel stressed about it. However, Loud House has always been one of the worst shows in recent years and Nickelodeon's milking cow, not helping that Chris Savino is a scumbag even if he doesn't have any input anymore.
No.65778
Anonymous
Replies:>>65782
>>65753
/co/ one is going to stay up but be purely focused on the two /co/ tournaments and the results of such
No.65782
Anonymous
Replies:>>65853
>>65631
Not at all, it'll be just as much for /co/ as the old wiki was, it's just /v/ is getting all the attention right now since 1. Queen of /v/ is in a little over a week 2. Most of us are waiting for new site administrator to import the old wiki and 3. As mentioned /v/ is badly lacking in terms of their own wiki content.
>>65778
It'll still exist yeah just it'll be inactive seeing as the active editors are migrating its contents over to the new wiki (fandom forces wikis that import to stay as they are).
No.65807
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65819
MrSir has been notified on the wiki itself now to check the /tnt/ thread and at least get the /co/ transfer done. Not sure what kind of schedule they got, but could be done by tonight. Just having the old groundwork + templates will be a massive help.

This actually does lead into another question: would it be a good call to have back-up admins just in case something goes awry on the wiki?
No.65819
Anonymous
>>65719
>>65807
Heyo, it's me. MrSir The Guyman. Not sure how you guys even discovered I was the admin as I don't think this website lists it but trust me, I have been watching this thread. Aside from IRL stuff like my computer being stuck in a startup loop until like 45 minutes ago & my current focus being on writing 2hu fanfiction, I am in no way good enough to be in charge lol.
I only created the wiki because I felt like if I didn't then nobody else would. I'm not super inactive (infact, I actually find myself browsing the /co/ and /v/ wiki frequently) but I do not trust myself with stuff like mass importing.
The very active GayAssScribbles and Funpost have been given admin privileges which I think should include the ability to mass import. If this doesn't work then just respond to this post
No.65827
Anonymous
>>65746
>>65747
Name added.
>>65748
I'm not an account person.
>>65753
You're welcome. You can edit it yourself to help.
>>65756
I think you forgot the ones from /tnt/ (other than Tag-team) and /an/. I fear we both are forgetting others from 4chan.
No.65833
Anonymous
Replies:>>65835
>>65819
Thanks for letting us know and for the Administrator user group, also I respect taking the initiative to make the wiki because if you didn't it probably would've taken a couple more days to get it set up and we don't have that kind of time with Queen of /v/ right around the corner
I'm going to send in an import request since the XML file is over the recommended 2 MB size for using Special:Import (4.4 mb), they've been pretty fast about responding to us before so this should be done by tomorrow at the latest
t. Funpostanon
No.65835
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65847
>>65819
That's plenty understandable. Still nice you at least got the project off the ground. Will do my best to continue with the wiki's development.

>my current focus being on writing 2hu fanfiction
Nice

>Not sure how you guys even discovered I was the admin as I don't think this website lists it
Special:Users

>>65833
Sounds good! I was just looking into importing, but I can trust you to it since you seem to have a pretty good grasp at it. Just give a heads up if any issues crop up, though hopefully it should be a smooth transition.

For my part, it seems we unfortunately can't download all the media files straight off the /co/ wiki. Will try to start backing all that up manually so it can be uploaded back in a relatively swift fashion.
Replies:>>65851
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>>65835
There's still a good chunk of images left (mainly most the icons), but I have now saved basically every picture I could find digging through the main pages. Once the import is complete, will start going through the character pages next.
No.65851
Anonymous
Replies:>>65852
>>65847
good gravy I can't imagine all the space that takes up
No.65852
GayAssScribbles
>>65851
It's only 200 MB, surprisingly. Feel the icons in particular are pretty small for the most part.
No.65853
Anonymous
>>65782
Honestly yeah that Fandom won't let you delete and pull fuckery like putting random people as admin if you try to shut down is a main reason, it's also good for a backup. It's also good signify the /co/ stuff as more significant and different then random meme tournaments
It won't be so hard to keep on autopilot mode either, honestly a concern I have for the new wiki is that it'll become very difficult to keep up to date. Especially if, say, any character with a /tnt/ profile is allowed a page
No.65861
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65862
The transfer seems to be ongoing now. Pages themselves seem to be coming over fine, though there are two issues now.

1) Templates may not transfer? Not a big deal. We'll just have to do those manually. I personally have no issue working on the tournament and character templates with necessary updates to fit the wider variety now.

2) The bad news: it seems the main page was outright overridden. Really frustrating to see this happen, and unfortunately I didn't have the foresight to prepare a back-up. Going to try to see if there's any remnants, but sadly that all could be fucked.
No.65862
GayAssScribbles
>>65861
This is my current pipeline:
>Get the backed up images uploaded for mere sake of readability.
>Fix the basic templates.
>Go through and try to fill in the gaps with pages.
>Redo main page if no one else has gotten onto it.

Specific page edits, character templates, and that like are going to be on my backburner for now. One small thing: I did finally add licensing options for uploading files. Will get the templates done later, but for now it should hopefully be straightforward.
No.65865
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65866
The character and tournament templates seem very fucked after the transfer. Been parsing through several potential solutions, and the easiest route might just be to outright scrap and restart them. If someone else wants to take a stab at them be my guest, but otherwise I'll just come back to them sometime later.

On brighter news, seems the bulk of the transfer is mostly complete now.
No.65866
Anonymous
>>65819
Oh one more thing could you give me (funpostanon) and GayAssScribbles the bureaucrat role? I can probably unfuck the infoboxes but I'm going to need to change extensions which I don't have with just admin perms. Or if you want to do it yourself you can go into Special:ManageWiki, the one I'm pretty sure we need enabled is Semantic Scribunto (requires Semantic MediaWiki).
>>65865
I think the problem isn't the infobox templates themselves just that our extensions are kind of screwed right now and we need to fix them to make the infoboxes work again
No.65867
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>65887
>>65866
Yeah, figured extensions were the top culprit. It is weird because Wikitide seems to support the necessary extensions, but either something broke or they simply weren’t properly enabled. Not blaming anyone for that of course. Just something with higher clearance to fix.

Worst case I found at least one template that mostly gets around the issue, though I’d much rather avoid it since it’s quite limited and obtuse. Really doubt it will be necessary.
No.65887
Anonymous
>>65867
I will contribute later to the wiki. Terminology aside, I will see what other articles I can help with. Just having been busy in real life (X720)
No.65895
Anonymous
>>65866
Done.
also somewhat unrelated but anyone mind adding images to Tag Team and Co-op's top 128 later down the line? It always bugged my autism that they didn't
Replies:>>65912
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I come bringing good news, I have fixed the infoboxes
If anything is still broken keep in mind the new settings really, really hate indentation for some reason so if something isn't working just get rid of the spacing and it should go back to normal
You can probably monkey around with the templates to make them look nicer with the new style but they're functional now and that's all that matters
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Pure SOVL
No.65902
Anonymous
Replies:>>65912
>>65901
No, no. Y'know what? Leave it as is. It's perfectly fitting for his tournament legacy.
No.65903
Anonymous
Also I figured I'd ask before I make any changes to the Main Page, is it fine if I replace the "Side tournaments/events" with an "Ongoing/Upcoming tournaments" schedule section? Nothing against the Side Tournaments listed (i've taken part in all of them and enjoy them) but that stuff is already detailed in the main tournament pages. Plus we got a countdown extension so that seems like a good place as any to put it to use
No.65905
Anonymous
>>65903
A countdown would be cool but I don't see why we'd need to remove the side events tab for it. Just add it to the top of the categories
No.65907
Anonymous
>>65903
The side tournaments/events pages will list the champions.
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Seems legit.
No.65909
Anonymous
>>65901
>>65908
I'm fucking loving these so far.
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SAMURAI FOOL
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EH?!
No.65912
GayAssScribbles
>>65897
Fantastic to hear!

>>65901
>>65902
You know what? I’m updating most of these, but this one can stay.
Replies:>>65919
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DO YOU WANT TO BUILD A SNOWMAN
No.65917
Anonymous
Oh hey the wiki now has its own browser icon.
No.65919
Anonymous
>>65908
That's Norville.
>>65913
Jack Frost?
No.65920
Anonymous
Replies:>>65922
Is it possible to keep the unwritten rule that characters have to quality for a main two tournament or otherwise be very notable for an article
No.65922
Anonymous
Replies:>>65923
>>65920
I don't think anyone was planning on changing the mold on that one, understandably nobody wants to write an article for Literally Who Background Character who seeded #729 in one tournament
As for characters who only qualify in side tournaments I agree it's best to just mention them in their tournament article if they were notable there, the exception is if they have an active presence in main tournaments like Ruber used to be before he made it into Mr. /co/
No.65923
Anonymous
>>65922
Ruber actually only got a page once he made his first tournament
Very little in the way of non-qualifying characters
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I didn't know Steve Purcell changed his artstyle recently
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I feel like the old wiki's results template is superior to the one being imported from Miraheze, I think I'd like to stick to the old one as far as the /v/ stuff is concerned, it's pretty quick to replace if nothing else
Top one is the /co/ wiki template, bottom one is the Miraheze wiki template btw
No.65936
Anonymous
>>65934
The collapsing isn't a bad addition, but overall I do agree.
No.65940
Anonymous
Replies:>>65979
Hidden significance here: the combination of all tourney's into a 4tourney wiki has sort of officially inaugurated these events as a continuous canon. Beforehand it was basically just a lot of cross-posting.
No.65942
Anonymous
Replies:>>65947
>>65934
Yes, the old template is the better alternative. If anything it only needs to be made collapsible.
As a side note, I think Jack Frost's current page is too overly positive and not a good representation of the actual perception and stigma around him, even getting details like when the push for Jack-Off started wrong. Shirley's article also seems to be lacking most information regarding her run.
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What would be some other useful terms to consider adding to the Terminology article? /pw/ derived concepts such as "jobber" have become very prevalent during tournament discussion.
Also, are we going to do anything with this page?
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Tournament_Phenomena
No.65947
Anonymous
>>65942
That's fair, I just wanted to put down a basic recap of his run to start the page off without going too deep into the controversy surrounding him. Also I meant that the semis is when the Jack Off started culminating rather than when it was brought up (i'm aware it was shilled earlier) and the general feeling of it being a forced matchup but I mixed up my words
If you want to add more about the shitstorm surrounding him feel free expand on that
>>65946
I feel like we should come to a general agreement on what exactly "Jobber" even means in these tournaments. Everyone seems to have some degree of differing opinion on what it implies here
No.65949
Anonymous
Replies:>>70006
>>65946
Is there a more specialized/character specific name for "runner-up curse"? I don't know of a character that's especially famous cause of that phenomena. Possibly name it after the very first runner-up ("Starfire effect")?
No.65952
Anonymous
I think the Among Us characters should be classified by color rather than role.
No.65957
Anonymous
Replies:>>65961
>>65952
No, I think the Red amongus is the designated Impostor, and it makes more sense to only have Crewmate and Impostor instead of all the colours.
No.65958
Anonymous
Replies:>>65961
>>65952
Two characters is already a ton for AMONG US.
No.65961
Anonymous
Replies:>>65963
>>65957
>>65958
Who many times an Among Us character qualified?
No.65963
Anonymous
>>65961
Impostor qualifies often, don't think it ever has gone further than Round 1.
No.65968
Anonymous
I like how Alice (Blacked Souls) and Condorjock's pages are a gag on their own.
No.65969
Anonymous
Replies:>>65970
Should Phoenix and Hank's pages be updated to include their wins in Heroes of /v/ and /co/ respectively?
No.65970
Anonymous
Replies:>>65973
>>65969
Yup. Alongside updates to any other characters that had notable stuff happen in the past few /tnt/ tourneys
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https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Cirno
I think it should be mentioned that Cirno's popularity, aside from being a meme, is also owed to her being used by the King of GETS poster sitewide to get 9-related GETs (usually repeating 9s or 0s, sometimes other stuff though).
She's basically the Queen version of Yugi.
No.65972
Anonymous
>>65971
Also this kind of GET posting has been done for pretty much a decade straight. With a little bit of lurking I don't think anyone's out of the loop on it.
No.65973
Anonymous
>>65970
I'll add their Heroes wins to their pages later tonight then. I'll also go and make pages for characters who were notable in the /tnt/ tournaments this year and have qualified for the main ones like Frank West and Ayin.
No.65975
Anonymous
Replies:>>65980
>>65971
>the King of GETS poster sitewide to get 9-related GETs
So a scriptfag?
No.65979
Anonymous
Replies:>>65982
>>65940
I'm going to be blunt, I'm just not a fan of this.
I do not enjoy putting some /tnt/ tournaments like Tag-Team 2022 where there was more "votes" then comments made each round or some side-thing with 20 votes on the same pedistool level as Ms /co/ or Queen /v/ where votes are taken seriously.
And each tournament I feel is culturally different. /co/ and /v/ relatively has the same characters in the same positions each year, even for those that don't make it, I can't see them as one entity
No.65980
Anonymous
Replies:>>65981
>>65975
The most ancient scriptfag. I'd be posting his 10 year old Youtube videos if it hadn't been scrubbed off the web about a year ago.
Nevertheless, it's a well-known GET character. If Yugi is one then Cirno definitely is too.
No.65982
Anonymous
Replies:>>66016
>>65979
I agree there's levels of prestige, and even tourney's that are way more formally "tourney's" than others. Which is why I proposed earlier there should be some distinguishing name for the main/original one's. Maybe tier the mid one's and give misc. section to the tiny one's.
But "continuous canon" doesn't mean one entity, just an interconnected of history. /v/ tourney's after all basically came out of /co/, and in turn /tnt/ and all the other stuff, and it's a lot of the same people running and voting on them.
No.66016
Anonymous
Replies:>>66018
>>65982
Give the main tourneys their own big box and then split the /tnt/ stuff into its own so you'd have to go look it up to read about it
Replies:>>66019
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>>66016
Uh huh, so what you propose is splitting this between the main board tourneys and the /tnt/ side stuff? Yeah, we could do that.
No.66019
Anonymous
Replies:>>66023
>>66018
Yeah, in that you have one box/template for "4chan tournament" and one for "/tnt/ tournaments" or "other tournaments"
So when you look up 4chan's tourneys, you won't even know about the /tnt/ ones unless you check on specific characters.
No.66022
Anonymous
Replies:>>66023
>>65477
I'm not serious about it, but I am curious.
We've got a wiki now that seems to be going along decently, but I think what we really lack is a good Booru.
The old one hosted by Gelbooru/booru.org stopped allowing registration a while ago and basically died.
The new one uses completely alien software and is annoying to browse.

Would it be possible to host a booru on this site, if it were allowed? Boorus are already a form of imageboard after all.
It would probably be able to accomodate the different OC better as well, as long as you can upload MP4s and sound files.
Think it should be possible running stuff like Shimmie2.
https://github.com/shish/shimmie2
No.66023
Anonymous
>>66022
I got used to Booruplus's design but I think the real problem with the current arrangement is having them split in two in the first place, it is quite annoying if I want to see all of say Hank Hill's OC but I have to go to each site to see the fanart before and after '23
If we got a Booru hosted here I think it would be feasible to merge them so all the OC is in one spot
>>66019
I think also for the separation of main tournament and side tournament, you could make a sub-page for a character's side tournament history. So for example Jack Skellington's page would just be Mr. /co/ but then he would also have a Jack Skellington/side sub-page where his Tag-Team/Heroes of /co/ etc tournament appearances would go. I think that would be agreeable to both the people who want a character's /tnt/ history listed, and the people who don't want it mixed in with the main tournament history.
No.66026
Anonymous
Replies:>>66027
Anyone have any strong feelings over whether we use Vector legacy or Vector 2022 as the default skin? Vector 2022 is the current skin but if you want to see what Vector legacy looks like you can switch to it in Preferences -> Appearances
No.66027
Anonymous
>>66026
No strong feelings for either of those, although I slightly prefer Vector 2022. Personally I just use Timeless.
No.66044
Anonymous
>>66030
Courage
No.66059
Anonymous
>>66030
Courage
No.66061
GayAssScribbles
>>66030
Courage
No.66066
Anonymous
>>66030
Gourage :DDD
No.66071
Anonymous
Replies:>>66072
I'm working on a page for Ayin, and does anybody remember when the Ayin Jimmy Neutron streams started? My memory is hazy but I want to say it started back during Queen of /v/ 2021. Also where should side tournament info go? Should it just go on the character's article?
No.66072
Anonymous
Replies:>>66073
>>66071
>Also where should side tournament info go? Should it just go on the character's article?
Just put it on the main page. We did it for /co/'s wiki on tag-team related stuff and I don't see a reason to change it now.
No.66073
Anonymous
>>66072
>Just pretend the Tag-Team 2022 which had more "votes" then comments per round is the same legitimacy as the real tournaments
This is why this wiki is going to be a mistake
No.66075
Anonymous
>>66073
All the ms. /co/'s since 2019 are implicitly illegitimate too.
Tag's are side tourney's so it's not a big deal anyways.
No.66078
Anonymous
>>66073
>which had more "votes" then comments per round
that was only for Round 2.
also by your logic we should remove anything related to Mrs. /co/ 2019.
It might not have been pretty, but it happened and that's that.
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Finally going to add an Elite Eight pic for Ms. /co/ 2022. Which of these two seems better for the main one? First is more standard, second is more creative.
No.66083
Anonymous
Replies:>>66087
>>66082
Personally, I think top is better because it's way better at telling who the 2-8 candidates were.
No.66084
Anonymous
>>66082
keep the bottom in some sort of gallery tab
No.66085
Anonymous
Replies:>>66087
>>66082
They can both be used. I agree with >>66084
No.66086
Anonymous
Replies:>>66087
>>66082
You can just use this very image if you like both.
No.66087
GayAssScribbles
>>66083
>>66084
>>66085
Alright. I was slightly leaning on this option anyways.

>>66086
I admittedly just threw these pics in Paint real quick for convenience sake. Would stick out too much since it's twice as tall as the other E8 pics used.

Can't upload it yet since the site host is shitting itself right now, but working on an Elite Eight page for Queen and King. May be convenient to split off the Elite Eight page due to the sheer amount of tournaments being covered now, but for now only doing it with these two.
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I did some changes to the width in this, now they are 15%. Don't know if it looks better.
No.66194
Anonymous
Replies:>>66195
I'm gonna work on some character pages later today, and then I'll try and do a page for Heroes of /v/. What picture should I use at the beginning of that page? I'm very tempted to use the Yiiking art but I'm thinking of using the Elite Eight image.
No.66195
Anonymous
Replies:>>66196
>>66194
Elite Eight image pls.
Also I should get to finish writing down the main Queen/v/ character pages and update the /co/ ones.
No.66196
Anonymous
>>66195
I was gonna do pages for /v/ characters that I know well, both male and female, and then move on to Heroes of /v/. I'll start with the women seeing as Queen of /v/ is just a few days away.
No.66236
Anonymous
Replies:>>66278
niggers
No.66249
Anonymous
>man king of /v/ 2019 doesn't have any icons on either wiki i guess i'll have to make them myself
>make like 30 of them when i see some other guy is already in the process of adding them
Welp, less work for me at least
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>>66236
No.66341
Anonymous
Replies:>>66345
>Dante's guns got a fully expanded article before Dante himself did
top kek
No.66344
Anonymous
Replies:>>66352
Dale and Farquaad still need pages
No.66345
Anonymous
Replies:>>66350
>>66341
The guns were fucking great that year. Shame they can never come back but maybe it's for the better. They probably would've gotten spitevoted out immediately last year.
No.66346
Anonymous
Replies:>>66487
>X will next be eligible Y year.
imo I don't think these should be included anymore unless the character got E8 ruled. Kind of redundant and looks extra sloppy when the pages don't get updated.
No.66350
Anonymous
>>66345
They had their time in the limelight. Anything more and they would have become targets of spite or even worse, spitevoting tools themselves (like Propane).
No.66352
GayAssScribbles
>>66344
Will find time for that next couple of days.
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Eggman deserves some kind of special honor for being the article with the most categories. Like look at this shit.
No.66487
Anonymous
>>66346
I agree and that's one of the things I'll clean up once I get around to updating all the pages to be on the same standard, albeit that won't be until off-season probably. Still having that information in the infobox is better since I can easily mass edit each page that has for example "next eligible for=[[Ms. /co/ 2023]]" to be changed to "next eligible for=[[Ms. /co/ 2024]]", way easier that way to keep everything up to date with minimal effort.
I'd also like to give a reminder that Queen of /v/ is in 2 days, if there's something you want to have ready by then now's the time to add it
No.66538
Anonymous
Replies:>>66545
Cataloging MLP stuff is gonna be an issue because nobody here cares enough to participate
No.66545
Anonymous
>>66538
It's always been in a place where it's its own bubble canon that isn't what's usually called the "main tourneys" and their offshoots.
No.66911
Anonymous
Replies:>>66974
TODAY IS THE DAY, GARY!
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>>66911
Gary is dead.
Replies:>>66998
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Ah, so glad we forced this new Wiki bros
No.66998
Anonymous
>>66976
The faq?
No.67005
Anonymous
>>66082
Why do both enforce the gay lie that Chel was second place? She never made finals
No.67018
Anonymous
Replies:>>67024
>>67005
There was no actual finals. NSA just threw out all of Shirley's votes and the finale was 24 hours of filler so we might as well just consider Chel the runner-up for being the last non-cheated character besides Fang.
No.67024
Anonymous
>>67018
Doesn't change the fact Shirley was the second choice of the finals round, not Chel. If we just make up whatever the hell we want what's the point of trying to have a wiki? Report accurately or post your "runner-up" to fanfiction.net
No.67026
Anonymous
Replies:>>67029
>>67005
I guess I could make an alter of both versions with Shirley as 2nd and Chel as 3rd, but I don't want to fuck with another's drawfags work.
No.67029
Anonymous
>>67026
Leave a disclaimer that Shirley's and Chel's placements are contested
No.67039
Anonymous
>>67024
There are explanations on the tournament and character pages. The E8 image is up to the one's that make that.
No.67049
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>67050
>>67005
I deliberately held off uploading the pics earlier because of this reason, but at this point most turned against Shirley and nobody made alternate versions here. Only reason I even changed how the positions are recorded was due to people in one of the Ms. /co/ threads this year seeming to fall on that being the better route.

>>67024
Problem is that the hosts and the finals match-ups contradict each other here. There's no real perfect solution here.
No.67050
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>67262
>>67049
Actually, I'm just going to drop a quick poll to at least gauge opinions here.

https://strawpoll.com/e6Z28qQ1GnN
No.67058
Anonymous
/mu/ tournaments?
No.67127
Anonymous
I think the thread randomly being bumped up back to Page 1 is notable enough to add to a wiki page, right?
No.67131
Anonymous
Replies:>>67167
>>67127
Something to do with DST I assume.
No.67167
Anonymous
Replies:>>67179
No.67179
Anonymous
Replies:>>67181
>>67127
A whole page idk since it was only one thread but it's definitely worth mentioning in the Queen 2023 page
>>67167
Daylight Savings happen which caused some kind of screwery where the thread started reversing its way back up the catalog while on bump limit, going from page 10 to page 5 all the way to page 1 while anons were desperately begging for the thread to please die so they could post images again
No.67181
GayAssScribbles
>>67179
Thus far we got the Kaine/Madeline controversy, the King Boo assault, and the weird Page 1 bump to cover or at least mention. Anything else?
No.67187
Anonymous
Replies:>>67191
/vst/ tournament in which Tiph got no votes?
Replies:>>67260
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>>67187
It wasn't a tournament, but Project Moon threads on /vst/ had a couple polls back during the Library of Ruina days where people would vote on their favorite out of the main cast, and Tiph was consistently at the bottom. iirc in one of them, she got zero votes.
No.67260
Anonymous
Replies:>>67271
>>67191
Thanks. What about those?
>>67058
No.67262
Anonymous
>>67050
>No votes for Shirley.
Chel won.
No.67271
Anonymous
>>67260
I don't remember seeing those. Haven't checked /mu/ in a few years. Last thing I remember seeing on there was an AVGN where everyone was coming up with rants for different albums.
No.67288
Anonymous
Replies:>>67329
>>67058
Their wiki covers them well but they are in such a different realm of the other tournaments (namely best songs/albums of a decade instead of character) I don’t think it matches up just because they were on 4chan
No.67329
Anonymous
>>67288
Do they have nominations?
No.67455
Anonymous
Replies:>>67456
It's going to be fun reading each hosts' page and seeing their controversies.
No.67456
Anonymous
>>67455
I'm going to have a blast writing JPEG Dog's entry.
No.67481
Bill Clinton
Hey, wikianons. If you guys could add the context as to why Barred from /v/ was made into a real thing onto the wiki page you guys suggested a few rounds ago, that would be cool
No.67903
Anonymous
So... how are we going to handle this?
No.67904
Anonymous
>>67903
Did Livesey win?
No.67942
Anonymous
>>67903
Since Curly was announced as "Winner", makes sense to me to put her in the Winners section
Idk what'll happen regarding a potential Grand Finals match, if another character wins that one maybe just list them both since Curly was already announced as Queen of /v/.
For now I think I'll just list Curly as the winner in the Queen /v/ template since that's where things stand right now
No.67991
Anonymous
>>67942
>since Curly was already announced as Queen of /v/.
She wasn't, they just put up the poll for who should go against her.
No.67994
Anonymous
>>67942
Good, keep Curly as queen.
No.68132
Anonymous
Replies:>>68391
Curly 1st.
Ammy 2nd
Roll 3rd.
Bayo 4th.
Ashley 5th.
Malon 6th.
Fio 7th.
Taokaka 8th.
No.68157
Anonymous
Well at least we'll have some finality after this round.
No.68378
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>68425
Based off general reactions and the final results, tournament page will now treat the merged bracket as a non-canon event to the overall tournament results and make it clear as such that the initial finals was effectively the main conclusion to the tournament. The grand finals summary was also merged into one paragraph on the losers' bracket as a result, with the short description of Curly vs. Ammy being given clear distinction now.

I'm thinking of adding a disclaimer box above the losers' bracket paragraph as a joke. Thoughts?
No.68387
GayAssScribbles
As a note from the above, for the Elite Eight page SHODAN and Muffet will be mentioned in a footnote for having honorary titles. Both had vocal support and clearly got fucked over in some regard, not to mention that people DID vote for both of them to get the titles alongside the reversion to the finals' Elite Eight. That all being said, they will also be treated as a separate entity from the Elite Eight itself across the wiki for presumably obvious reasons, including the last point.
Replies:>>68400
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>>68132
My post aged like wine except for Ashley.
No.68400
GayAssScribbles
>>68391
Yeah, you mostly called it. I thought Ashley would rank higher, but then again considering all the 8th place mentions I saw in the tourney threads it does make sense.
No.68425
Anonymous
Replies:>>68446
>>68378
So how do we treat the "best results" as far as the Loser's Bracket is concerned? Should it be listed as the performance in winner's bracket only or should it be the furthest they went in loser's bracket?
No.68446
GayAssScribbles
>>68425
Good question! Obviously SHODAN and Muffet will at least have mentions of their two titles alongside their elimination rounds from the main bracket. One compromise might be to give small mentions to the strongest performers in losers' bracket, beneath the main / canon results. That said, even then Madotsuki, Alice, and arguably Hex already had fairly strong results in the main bracket from previous years that kind of make this unnecessary.

If I had to say now, in general pages will continue to just focus on the main bracket for best results. Even for someone like Mari, who's obviously never gotten far outside her losers' run here, you could always just have a section of her tournament history that goes over the losers' run. This also reinforces the very final vote and the notion that people deliberately voted to keep losers' bracket separate. Can absolutely confirm there will be no instance where it's JUST the losers' bracket being mentioned.
No.68451
GayAssScribbles
Replies:>>68456
>>68446
Yeah, thinking on this a bit more I think the best call is to have SHODAN and Muffet listed with "9th / 10th place (2023; honorary title)" below how far they've gone on the main bracket. Muffet's would have a link to the section about how she lost her shot at Elite Eight. For the rest, likely just going to stick to the main and effectively official bracket. Hell, in fact, the Top 4 out of losers ARE the ones I singled out as having good results in the main tournament. Lucky, huh?
No.68456
Anonymous
Replies:>>68459
>>68446
>>68451
Cool, that's what I was leaning towards anyways
I will put that on the Muffet page that I am writing then
No.68459
GayAssScribbles
>>68456
Sounds good!
No.68665
Anonymous
>Curly wins
>Curly gets a two-day afterparty where she has an exhibition match with SHODAN in front of a bunch of funposters mostly doing their own
canon
No.68725
Anonymous
>>68665
The use of non-canon and headcanon on the page is the best part.
No.68780
Anonymous
>>68665
>three-day*
No.69383
Anonymous
I'm gonna touch up some character pages later today. Should I add Phoenix Wright and Hank Hill's side tournament wins to their pages while I'm at it?
No.69388
Anonymous
No.69883
Anonymous
>>69383
>Counting side meme tournaments as legitimate as /v/ or /co/
Bad omens
No.69884
Anonymous
No.69886
Anonymous
>>69883
>>69883
We did the exact same thing for /co/ wiki beforehand & have lead to decently huge things that are noteworthy enough to be cataloged
cope and sneed
No.69894
Anonymous
Replies:>>70140
>>69883
The /co/ wiki exists because of a side tournament.
No.70006
Anonymous
>>65949
Maybe it can be called the Batman laugh or some shit.
No.70140
Anonymous
>>69894
Lol no it doesn’t
No.70141
Anonymous
If you have a problem with side tournament info being listed next to main tournament info may I suggest either making a different section for it on the page separate from the main tournament history section or a creating a subpage for side tournament stuff only
This sounds more reasonable than playing tug-of-war whenever someone writes something about a character's side tourney appearance
No.70150
Anonymous
>>70141
No, we must keep HEADCANON at bay.
No.70164
Anonymous
>>70141
Just have everything together for convenience and say they were hosted on /tnt/ next to them on the character pages too. Disregard the people who get needlessly angry about side tournaments.
No.70929
Anonymous
Have the artists for the OC anchors been properly credited yet?
No.70933
Anonymous
>>70929
Dude, we are all anonymous.
No.70934
Anonymous
>>70929
Hard to credit without artist names.
No.70944
Anonymous
>>70929
>tfw been visiting the tournaments long enough to recognize most artists by style alone
No.72400
Anonymous
Replies:>>73259
Yeah, a King Boo article is a must after that.
No.72593
Anonymous
>>70141
Personally, I think making two separate sections for "Main tournament history" and "Side tournament history" would be best.
No.73247
Anonymous
Replies:>>73249
Did the wiki just get completely axed or is the site just acting up?
No.73249
Anonymous
Replies:>>73252
>>73247
Seems fine to me.
No.73252
Anonymous
>>73249
It keeps directing me to a "Wiki not found" page
No.73259
Anonymous
>>73252
Looks like the host site is just doing maintenance right now, give it a bit and it should be back up
>>72400
Jetstream Sam definitely needs one after this as well, along with the rest of the E8
No.73264
Anonymous
Replies:>>73266
>>73252
Host site has been going down from time to time. Not the best, but it's better than Fandom.
No.73266
Anonymous
Replies:>>73277
>>73264
If nothing else they announce when the maintenance is happening so it's a bit less of a bother.
Anyways I was thinking after the tournament is over about making an Alliances page for the most notable teams in the main tournaments; which is to say Team Schizo/Schizo Alliance, Team Merchant, Allice Alliance, The Plunderers, etc. Any other main notable tournament alliances that would go in there? Not including FARTS because that's not even really an alliance, more of a concept at this point.
No.73277
Anonymous
>>73266
I’d also suggest to also make a section about their status and important members..
Like team merchants is mostly defunct now while schizo’s are more or less still standing strong.
No.73874
Anonymous
Meta page should have something on /dbs/ and schizo alliance, since we got DTVA and plunderers.
Also maybe add some pictures.
No.73961
Anonymous
Replies:>>73963
the hell?
https://saimoe.miraheze.org/wiki//an/lympics_2023
did one of you guys make this?
No.73963
Anonymous
Replies:>>73981
>>73961
Not me but I’m certainly glad the /an/lympics got recognition on the wiki
No.73981
Anonymous
Replies:>>73984
>>73963
When's the next /an/lympics?
No.73984
Anonymous
>>73981
There was a poll at the end of the last one asking if there was interest in it happening again, it was voted yes, but I'm not really sure if it'll happen given that Balls retired. Unless he comes back, of course.
No.74043
Anonymous
Replies:>>74061
>>73984
I'm sure we can get someone else on it.
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>>74043
Well it isn't hard.
It has barely more than 200 nominations.
And the rules are the MOST lax out of any tournament as there are no series limit or anything side the from the Elite Eight rule.
The only rule that was suggested is to name the animal by genus name.
No.74087
Anonymous
>>73984
Balls retired?
No.74221
Anonymous
Replies:>>74408
Well shit.

Seems people at least want to keep Grimm at the winner, but that does make our job harder.
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>>74221
>people want to keep Grimm as the winner
No.74796
Anonymous
Replies:>>74881
Is there anyway to archive videos on the wiki or booru? I'm noticing some old campaign videos are starting to vanish like the ones here from King 2021
>>8464
In general though I'd recommend downloading most of the major campaign videos. Especially the ones that were only posted to catbox in case that website ever decides to shutdown
No.74881
Anonymous
>>74796
Some of the videos from this year are on the booru, so yeah, it's possible to archive videos there.
Replies:>>76127
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so I've been making a couple of entries for characters in the wiki now and I have a couple of questions
should the highest seed entry in the character's infobox also include the number of votes they got?
is there a way to add a shadow or an outline to the character's name so it stands out a little more?
No.76123
Anonymous
I see that Doomguy has a wiki page now. Does anyone mind if I add to it?
No.76126
Anonymous
>>76123
I don't know what's stopping you, but go ahead.
No.76127
Anonymous
Replies:>>76129
>>75987
>should the highest seed entry in the character's infobox also include the number of votes they got
Nah but if the qualifier vote number is noteworthy in some way you can mention that elsewhere in the page, also I'll look into seeing if there's some way to fancy up the text
>>76123
Of course, anyone is free to add to any page.
No.76129
Anonymous
>>76123
obviously, I admit I don't really write up the tournament history sections when I make my pages because I'm both lazy and not good at writing a good narrative for the character besides very basic stuff.
>>76127
>Nah but if the qualifier vote number is noteworthy in some way you can mention that elsewhere in the page,
fair enough, could just put it on the tournament history somewhere
>also I'll look into seeing if there's some way to fancy up the text
alright cool
No.76279
Anonymous
Who the fuck put an Asterisk on every winners name?
No.76280
Anonymous
>Look through last 500 edits
>4 1/2 are related to /co/
Very clear what the intention of this whole forced merger was
No.76281
Anonymous
Replies:>>76287
>>76280
I plan to work on some /co/ pages, /v/ is just the focus right now due to recency and also being incredibly outdated compared to /co/
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>>76280
>You don't understand it Hank, this move away from Fandom is all an elaborate conspiracy from the /v/tards to enact a hostile takeover of the /co/ wiki content! First they take our wiki, then our editors, then our pages.. my God Hank, your page is going to be covering your video game instead of your cartoon! We have to protect ourselves!
in seriousness now that the /v/ stuff is almost fully up to date i'll go back and work on the old /co/ pages as well as making some new ones
also considering giving the /co/ navboxes a similar format to the /v/ ones where semi-finalists get bolded and runner-ups get underlined, let me know what you think about that
No.76284
Anonymous
>>76282
The /co/ boxes should definitely be updated to match the /v/ ones, yeah.
No.76287
GayAssScribbles
Been occupied with other shit, so haven't been able to update the wiki as actively. Might go through stuff the next few days if I get around to it.

>>76281
To put it kindly, /co/ actually had a wiki. Saimoe gave some groundwork, but it was paltry in comparison.

>>76282
>also considering giving the /co/ navboxes a similar format to the /v/ ones where semi-finalists get bolded and runner-ups get underlined, let me know what you think about that
Yeah, absolutely.
No.76300
Anonymous
Replies:>>76302
I've added a lot more to Doomguys wiki page.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Doomguy
Did I do good?
No.76302
Anonymous
Replies:>>76306
>>76300
Two points:

1. NO mention of his modern appearances outside one mention of Eternal's reception is a little strange. Would at least give a brief summary of that history and simply reinforce in his bio how those games have been more polarizing on /v/.
2. Calling his track record terrible feels like hyperbole. I would probably word it more like "Doomguy has had a shakier track record in the tournaments following his initial run." Don't forget that he was Garland's closest match last year, and while not an elite ranker yet Agent 47 isn't the worst thing he could have lost against in a vacuum.

Outside these two points, you did a nice jump summing him up.
No.76303
Anonymous
>>76280
Gee I wonder why
maybe it's because the /v/ wiki barely even existed before this was made. Kind of can't celebrate a merger if half the merger doesn't even exist.
/co/ wiki is also pretty up-to-date if you ignore some of the new finalists not having any pages
...or several existing pages not having updated match history spreads
No.76306
Anonymous
>>76302
Alright, made some changes.
I've added "Reception on /v/" to the page to exsplain /v/ tards reception on Eternal.
I've also tweaked "Doomguy's status" to be less negative.
No.76470
Anonymous
Replies:>>76473
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Tifa_Lockhart
No.76473
Anonymous
>>76470
>I don't feel like writing an article for Tifa...
Kek
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What the fuck happened to the wiki?
No.77085
Anonymous
Replies:>>77086
>>77084
Seems like it might be a Wikitide issue, the wiki was fine a few hours ago.
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>>77084
>>77085
I am fucking concerned because when I checked it seems the wiki has reverted itself back to December 8th phase.
That is 15 days of work gone down the toilet.
No.77087
Anonymous
Replies:>>77090
>>77086
Oh, seems like it did. It's most likely a Wikitide issue, then. Let's wait and see happens, hopefully the rollback isn't permanent.
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>>77086
I'm really hoping we don't have to do all those pages again
No.77090
Anonymous
>>77087
I looked on other wikitide wikis (including the main wikitide meta one) and they all seem to be experiencing the same issues as well so I assume it's just a byproduct of the database maintenance
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>The changes are permanent
No.77114
Anonymous
Replies:>>77116
>wiki is now down
Welp, not sure that’s a good or bad sign.
No.77116
Anonymous
>>77114
Back up for me.
No.77130
Anonymous
Replies:>>77137
According to wikitide for wikis that are showing an older version of the site they're still on the current version and should be showing it again after maintenance, it's just showing the outdated version at the moment due to server issues.
No.77137
Anonymous
>>77130
Thank fuck.
No.77335
Anonymous
>>67005
I think now we know why
No.79202
Anonymous
Replies:>>79208
Well, it's gonna be something to document everything that's been going on. In the meantime, Rayman finally has his page also meaning that every King /v/ Elite Eight member has a page.
No.79208
Anonymous
Replies:>>79312
>>79202
Nice to hear. Already got some plans to update the wiki on this whole deal, but do want to give it a little more time.
No.79312
Anonymous
>>79208
One thing I want to know is are we going to list Shirley as 2nd and Chel as 3rd, seeing as how the original placements were only made by NSA's illegitimate decision rather than the actual rules of the tournament (runner-up is 2nd place)? Or are we going with a "what's done is done" approach, I ask because I know people were asking about that in the Mr/Ms. /co/ threads
No.79314
Anonymous
Replies:>>80585
>>79312
I don't know anymore. I used to be firmly in the Chel is second group even drawing art of her as the runner-up to make fun of riggers while still being mad at NSA for no proper finale, but the current revelations that it wasn't just incompetence and he was spiting characters makes me feel dirty for that.
No.79318
Anonymous
>>79312
Weighing that right now. May switch it back under a “Captain America” clause.
No.79395
Anonymous
Replies:>>79418
Hey uh could anyone mind filling out the side tournament entrees now that we're entering Tag Team time?
No.79418
Anonymous
>>79395
Seconding this because I've never actually participated in any /tnt/ tournaments, or the Tag-Teams that were held on /co/ for that matter
Tag-Team 2023 is going to be my first one (hopefully it's good)
No.80585
Anonymous
Replies:>>86412
>>79312
>>79314
Made a poll for this
https://poal.me/9y0dia
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/v/'s side of the wiki obviously needs focus but I'd argue that /co/ might need some work too. A lot of the pages outdated (Sam still doesn't have a page despite being Elite 8) and there are goofs like picreal galore
No.81522
Anonymous
>>81519
Damn... Ariel looks like THAT? still never changing captain america's picture btw, it fits too well
Anyways when I have time to edit more I'll definitely work more on bringing the /co/ pages up to date, quite a few of them haven't been updated since like 2021 so it's pretty long overdue
No.81659
Anonymous
>>81519
O sereio futebolista.
No.81770
Anonymous
Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Dev:Hatnote' not found.
No.81839
Anonymous
>Reimu's page
"While Reimu is barred from partaking in future Queen of /v/ editions due to her victory, she has enjoyed some presence within the tournament threads, often appearing alongside Dante as a commentator."
>Dante's page
"Due to him winning, Dante is permanently banned from all following tournaments. But it's not like that has stopped him from trying to rig Vergil out of the competition."

This fits them perfectly.
No.82093
Anonymous
Izzy's page has been blank for well over a year
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Yep, the entire Wiki got couped
No.83626
Anonymous
>>83619
What happened now?
No.83628
Anonymous
Replies:>>83811
>>83619
What?
No.83758
Anonymous
>>83619
Imageboard shouldn't be spaced.
No.83811
Anonymous
>>83626
>>83628
Goku isn't listed as the winner.
No.83832
Anonymous
>>83619
Ah sweet, a schizo post!
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No.83842
Anonymous
>>83626
Why isn't the /co/ winners highlighted and only /v/?
Why was only 4 out of 500 recent edits at one point for /co/ and the rest for /v/?
No.83845
Anonymous
Replies:>>83852
>>83842
Because the /v/ tourneys were happening.
No.83851
Anonymous
Replies:>>83856
>>83842
Because /v/ is better than /co/
No.83852
Anonymous
Replies:>>83860
>>83842
We already went over this. /co/ actually had a wiki, while a lot of Saimoe’s crossover was either lacking or irrelevant. This was basically an extension to the previous /co/ wiki, so new content was the priority. That, and what >>83845 said.

Tag-team winners will replace Curly and Grimm in a few days.
No.83856
Anonymous
>>83851
See here it is
It's basically the /v/ wiki, /co/ should split because the wiki admins basically couped our wiki for /v/ exclusively
No.83858
Anonymous
>>83856
>ignores the other two replies
Okay, now I know you’re trying to stir shit.
No.83860
Anonymous
>>83852
It’s still up, it’s just that it’s kind of neglected
No.83862
Anonymous
>>83856
fangbro btw
No.84048
Anonymous
Tag-Team 2023 is gonna need a page
No.84152
Anonymous
No.84166
Anonymous
>>84048
Been dealing with some technical issues today. Should be up by tomorrow if nobody beats me to the punch.
No.86412
Anonymous
Should the articles of characters involved in the whole NSA/OFA controversy make mention of the incident and their part in it?
Also, I want to know if we can finally start listing Shirley as 2nd and Chel as 3rd considering >>80585
No.86431
Anonymous
>>86412
>Should the articles of characters involved in the whole NSA/OFA controversy make mention of the incident and their part in it?
Yes, it's worth noting considering it will very likely impact quite a few of them in future years, Black Hat especially.
>Also, I want to know if we can finally start listing Shirley as 2nd and Chel as 3rd considering
The Elite Eight and Ms. /co/ 2022/23 pages were changed to list the correct rankings but the Shirley/Chel pages were overlooked, I'll fix them to be 2nd and 3rd respectively now
No.86434
Anonymous
Replies:>>86438
>>86431
Wait, does Black Hat even have a page?
No.86438
Anonymous
>>86434
Huh I guess he doesn't, I could've swore he did
Well, if he gets one that's going on there. Either way I know Wuya at least seems pretty relevant for this since there's been a lot of discourse over her specifically in relation to NSA/OFA
No.86603
Anonymous
>>86412
This might be controversial but I don't even think this should be an article and I'm surprised it is. It's some schizo-eceleb theory instead of an actual tournament article and is very prone to bias given its topic, that's why the wikis tried avoiding articles on specific people (outside Psyanon) before now
No.86607
Anonymous
Replies:>>86615
>>86603
It's a VERY relevant matter to the tourneys and it should be reported accordingly. For the record I'm not one of the wiki editors who has been working on the article, but I think it makes sense why it exists.
No.86615
Anonymous
>>86607
Perhaps, but there aren't articles on Numnuts or Fusefag or the other ecelebs of the tournament's history and that was for a good reason to prevent drama and attention whoring, and it feels conspiracy articles on hosts reaches given that the connection isn't 100% confirmed just yet. Then again, it's a wiki anyone can edit, there's basically zero rules now so people will make that if they want.
Also cautious about how it seems people discussing this are very much trying to force Shirley as legitimate into this discussion.
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>given that the connection isn't 100% confirmed just yet
No.86653
Anonymous
>>86603
It’s a significant event in the tournament’s history, and more importantly it could be a nice source to inform others over time. I myself have tried to keep the page as unbiased as possible here. As of right now, it makes it clear that these are specifically allegations and notes responses on the matter.

>>86615
Captain America is also listed as 2nd on the wiki’s records. I wouldn’t overthink it here. The contested disclaimer will also remain.
No.86654
Anonymous
Replies:>>87605
>>86615
>but there aren't articles on Numnuts or Fusefag or the other ecelebs of the tournament's history
Yeah but here's the thing; that article isn't a biography on some random disruptive attentionwhore, it's just a report on an on-going incident involving the main fucking host.
>Also cautious about how it seems people discussing this are very much trying to force Shirley as legitimate into this discussion.
Is this your biggest concern over this whole issue? Dude, nobody here cares about Shirley's legitimacy, unless the fact she made finals and squared off against Fang is what you mean by that. Regardless, if that's the impression you are getting from all of this then you haven't been paying attention at all.
No.86671
Anonymous
Replies:>>86678
>>86431
>The Elite Eight and Ms. /co/ 2022/23 pages were changed to list the correct rankings
no they weren't
Replies:>>86753
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>>86671
Elaborate?
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>>86678
still looks like this for me
No.87605
Anonymous
>>86654
It's a unproven conspiracy theory that NSA is a artist and openly shitting on contestants (which that last part is true with the post using his trip but the article didn't mention that accident), which may or may not be notable but is still on fringe eceleb gossip territory
My issue is trying to keep a impartial, neutral perspective as much as possible on articles. That's very important for the integrity of this entire basketweaving forum character competition wiki and this is one of those hot issues that might break that. And people using the same post to talk about this page to declare Shirley is not rigged is very suspect and breaking of that impartial nature that people have tried keeping for years
No.87607
Anonymous
>he still thinks this is about Shirley
No.87609
Anonymous
Still need a tag team page btw.
No.87614
Anonymous
Replies:>>87617
>He misses the point referring to how people might not be keeping neutrality on the topic entirely so bad he can't reply seriously
No.87616
Anonymous
Replies:>>87640
i believe every negative thing that has been said about NSA but I agree, this doesn't need a wiki page. i think it's better if the wiki sticks to being a record of tournaments and individual character performances.
No.87617
Anonymous
>>87614
People have been keeping neutrality so far. The current page detailing on the OFA/NSA doesn't even describe the allegations involving his smearing against specific contestants, which is the biggest concern here.
No.87640
Anonymous
Replies:>>87643
>>87616
I’d say we go either all or nothing on the hosts. They are a significant part of tournament history, so I’m on the side of covering them at least to an extent. Still, really depends whether there’s a clear consensus here one way or the other.
No.87643
Anonymous
>>87640
It's a very uncomfortable topic but I don’t see the issue with reporting what has been going on in the wiki. As you say, it’s still tournament history.
Finally got around to putting up downloadable links to all the shows, including winners/alt images, and videos.
No.91015
Anonymous
Page on the incident needs an update going over the allegations about NSA smearing contestants.
No.91209
Anonymous
Replies:>>91220
Surprised the Peru accident hasn't gotten an article yet if we're now doing drama articles
What other drama topics are feasible for articles? There has to be a few over the years
No.91220
Anonymous
>>91209
I don't think we need to make any other articles on meta drama, the only reason The Fall of NSA got one is because it happened outside of any tournament (ie almost entirely contained within off-season threads) and because it's had some pretty major ramifications. Plus there's a lot of sleuthing involved so it's good to have a place to backlog all the evidence and accusations for people who are unfamiliar with the topic and are wondering WTF people are talking about with the NSA/OFA shit
A page for any other drama or shitshow is unnecessary since they're covered for whatever event they were part of, for example Peru is already covered in Ms. /co/ 2019 and Spinel/Emmy's pages, Tag-Team drama is covered in its respective tournaments etc
No.91235
Anonymous
Replies:>>91282
mutiple pages for Drama is stupid but I do think there should be a singular page for it.
No.91282
Anonymous
>>91235
creating a general page for drama will incentivize people to cause drama so they can get on the page
No.91288
Anonymous
Replies:>>91471
Major tourney incidents that can't be connected to a preexisting tourney page can get their own pages.
No.91471
Anonymous
>>91288
...That's every tourney incident
This NSA one can be summarized in Queen /v/ 2023 according to everyone
No.91472
Anonymous
>>91471
Lol no
No.91474
Anonymous
>>91471
It encompasses more than Queen /v/.
No.91476
Anonymous
The page on the NSA/OFA incident is sorely in need of an update.
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>>91476
I found even more evidence that NSA very likely drew the muzzles, a picture he openly admitted drawing I'm pretty sure uses the exact same brush type as one of the muzzle pictures
>>91264
>>91265
The guy that made the second Curly winscreen outright changed the artwork used so NSA wasn't in it
No.91535
Anonymous
>>91476
Plan to finally get around to that soon.
No.91941
Anonymous
Replies:>>92039
Tag team 2023 is using the wrong qualifier bracket, it’s the one from last year
No.92039
Anonymous
>>91941
This, assume it's a temporary one but needs to be fixed
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>https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Ms._/aco/_2023?action=edit&redlink=1
>still no /aco/ 2023 page
Alright, I'd be too biased to write something myself. But I'll incentivize you. If an anon can write a good, impartial page of /aco/ detailing the events that led it to being hosted on trash, archive links of the threads themselves, and the win screen of Loona and the elite 8 with results summaries, I'll sketch out a lewdy Loona just for you. Don't even need any info written about "funny" stuff that happened, I'd just like to see a genuine, objective article be made to immortalize her.
Replies:>>92222
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>>92052
Also, whoever writes it needs to say that Kanna should've won.
Replies:>>92223
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>>92218
>Also, whoever writes it needs to say that Hoppu should've won.
Ftfy
Replies:>>92225
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>>92222
8th
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>>92223
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stinking weeds, get out of here we want a normal thread about the wiki
No.92234
Anonymous
Replies:>>92256
Fang gets an asterisk when?
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>>92234
I ATE all asterisks
No.92258
Anonymous
>>92246
hmmm based
Replies:>>92291
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>>92246
>https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Ms._/aco/_2023
Bruh
Okay that is kindof funny
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>>92246
>>92289
I fixed it.
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We're never getting a legitimate /aco/ 2023 page, are we?
No.92366
Anonymous
>>92361
Of course not, same for the other side tournaments and /v/ characters.
No.92368
Anonymous
Replies:>>92381
>>92366
Whats the poimt of the wiki then
No.92381
Anonymous
>>92368
Shitposting
No.92383
Anonymous
>>92381
Posting more /co/lette?
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>>92381
How did you get around the filter
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>>92361
I could do it.
I know the technicalities and can post every picture if need be.
Problem is I have not the willpower nor the time to do it.
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YOU AREN'T GETTING AWAY
No.92518
Anonymous
Plants aren't using the wiki to funpost, so Plants > /dbs/
No.92519
Anonymous
>>92451
>>92361
This is the real issue. I would set up the page myself, but I wasn’t around for that one to report on all the shit that went down.

That being said, if I had decent bullet points summarizing the tournament and some links to the results, I could work off of that.
No.92522
Anonymous
>>92052
If you know a lot about the tournament I think you should go for it desu, if you're worried about it being biased someone could clean it up to make it more neutral. I'd write for it but I was only there for the /aco/ part when the threads were getting deleted by jannies because of people posting anime (still retarded since eastern art gets posted on /aco/ all the time), I missed everything after it got moved to /trash/. Either that or go with as >>92519 suggests
No.92523
Anonymous
Replies:>>92620
>>92519
This may help
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/trash.desu.meta/subject/ms%20%2Faco%2F/

However, one thing to start with is how the tournament was moved to /trash/ because of mods acting like retards about eastern/japanese being posted. You should ignore completely about the itoddler's tantrum and spamming all through it though. He's not worth adding to the article.
No.92570
Anonymous
Replies:>>92576
>>92451
you don't need to do that much, genuinely just a "here are the round results, winners, and what led to it being on /trash/" would be perfect.
No.92576
Anonymous
>>92570
I think people got a misunderstanding about wiki's, that they require you to be part of a closed group and know a bunch of technical junk. Not true at all. If you know how to copy-paste and fill in templates you pretty much know how to wiki.
No.92589
Anonymous
>>92366
That reminds me, I keep meaning to make a page for Flandre Scarlet because she WASN'T EVEN NOMINATED, but I keep forgetting.
No.92595
Anonymous
Replies:>>92596
Here’s a few character pages I suggest being made
>Shrek
>Popeye
>Mothra
>Godzilla
>King Kong as part of the other characters area
>Hades
>Mr krabs
>Scotsman
No.92596
Anonymous
Replies:>>92669
>>92595
and Dale who's the last of the Mr. E8 to not have a page
No.92620
Anonymous
>>92523
same, the phonefag loved attention and doesn't deserve it.
Even if at the time us clowning on him was REALLY funny.
No.92669
Anonymous
>>92596
Right forgot about him. All of them had quite the presence in those tournaments (yes even the Kong dilemma) so they deserve something
No.92733
Anonymous
Replies:>>92760
Does this wikitide website allow for tables in articles you can sort by column?
No.92760
Anonymous
Replies:>>92867
>>92733
Probably. It looks like a Mirror of normal Wikipedia & Mirazee so
Replies:>>92810
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>>92052
offer is still open by the way
someone?
Anyone?
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>>92767
I will probably try something unless someone else is in the shadows. After all I had a good augh with how you made that phoneposter act like a jester for my entertainment! NYEHEHEHEHE
No.92813
Anonymous
>>92810
>laugh
No.92838
Anonymous
>>92810
Thanks Skeletor
Just a genuine article would be perfect, not worried about anon attention
No.92867
Anonymous
Replies:>>92871
>>92760
Honestly cool, I might test that out and if true eventually I might get around to the one article I've always wanted to make for the wiki
No.92871
Anonymous
Replies:>>93082
>>92867
You mean something like this right? Because if so yeah you can do that
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No.92977
Anonymous
Replies:>>92988
>>92810
Oh hey, would you prefer just lewd or funny? Skeletor and Loona is one of the funniest crackships I've ever seen, with Skeletor being easily annoyed and completely ridiculous, while Loona is highly apathetic and cantankerous.
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>>92977
Are you editing the article right now? If so, then why not both?
No.92993
Anonymous
>>92988
No, technically incompetent artbro willing to bribe someone technically able with neuron-activating drawings speaking
No.92994
Anonymous
Replies:>>93022
>>92988
>>92993
Into writing an unbiased and fair article simply relaying the events of the tournament
No.93002
Anonymous
WHEN do you guys plan to update the NSA / OFA incident page. Also, what's the best way for contestant pages that were largely affected by these controversies (be it Wuya, Zim, Amaterasu, AM, Muffet etc) to tackle the issue?
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>>92993
>>92994
Keep it both funny and lewd! Skeletor demands it! I have to sleep but tomorrow I'll start working on it!
No.93025
Anonymous
>>93022
Sounds good. I also need sleep but I've got a really good idea planned. I'll try to get started on it later tomorrow
No.93027
Anonymous
>>93002
I'm not the guy updating it but he said he would soon, as for the others, I think just wait until their next appearance to see if the incident effects them in any meaningful way or not. Though I think Wuya deserves a mention about how her victory was unfortunately soured months later due to association with the host, as for Ammy whenever her page gets updated I think throw in a brief mention but don't go on too much about it since it's largely another matter entirely.
No.93082
Anonymous
>>92871
Maybe, I’d need to test it out to see if it will change sorting, if it does then I can eventually do a very comprehensive article
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>>93022
Here you go, lord Skeletor. I hope this tickles you funny bone. Please keep the article as neutral as possible. If any art is posted, the Anchor image (since all artists, the few there were, used it) and the win screen Elite 8 image seem like the fairest ones to use, don't want it to be a cult of personality thing. And absolutely don't give the futafaggot attention, I've seen him on other boards and he loves getting attention.
Censors will be removed upon a complete article!
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>>93199
Okay and a sizable reason for making this specific joke was so I could draw this as a panel, I seriously must have watched fabulous secret powers twenty times
Replies:>>93208
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>>93199
HA! That looks magnificent! Even though you just discovered my weakness!
Done! I can work on those details you speak of later.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Ms._/aco/_2023
>I've seen him on other boards
Besides /v/ and /co/? Now that would be interesting.
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>>93207
Glad you like it! Great image choice for the article too, kek
Here's the uncensored, don't open if you're squeamish but it's entirely cartoony
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>>93208
Oh worry not a little blood here and there doesn't scare the mighty Skeletor at all. I'm rather impressed by how well it captures the relationship better than with that witch! Now if you excuse me my loyal hellhound I have to pass out of blood loss!
No.93223
Anonymous
>>93208
I can't believe loona gave skeletor syphilis.
No.93259
Anonymous
>>93002
The only character that should have it mentioned in their article is the /v/ dog because that smear is what led to the whole controversy starting
Rest feels like too unsubstantiated of conspiracies at this moment to include without anything feeling like someone hates a character and wants to take it out on them
No.93260
Anonymous
>>93002
Plan to finally update the page next day or two. Life’s just been hectic past couple weeks. The most recent revelations will be a priority to get on there considering they seem especially damning.
No.94174
Anonymous
I think "debut" needs a better definition, because we are using it both for the character's first appearance in media and also tournament debut and it's becoming confusing
No.94408
Anonymous
Replies:>>94421
Proposing adding terminology about voter's regret (winner not looked on as favorably later as when they won). Maybe someone's got a better term.
No.94409
Anonymous
Replies:>>94421
it was been two wikis of time and Peter still doesn't have a page kek
No.94421
Anonymous
>>94408
This strikes me as more of a Tournament Phenomenon than a Terminology thing but sure, I assume the primary examples here would be Recette and Wuya? I've seen some posts criticizing Batter recently but that seems to be a minority opinion, and naturally Spinel doesn't fit this description because she was already heavily controversial as soon as she won.
>>94409
I thought you meant Peter Griffin for a minute and I was quite confused seeing as he doesn't do anything other than be a fodder pick, then I realized you meant Spidey and yeah I think he's warranted. If anyone wants to start a page for him just covering the infamous Twig rape autism I'll fill in the rest of the page for you
No.94423
Anonymous
>>94421
>This strikes me as more of a Tournament Phenomenon than a Terminology thing but sure
That's actually what I meant. Also i think Monarch fits somewhat seeing how much she's been called the pity winner years after her win.
No.94426
Anonymous
>>94421
>>94423
Does Garland fit as well? There's been some posts decrying his win for a while but especially after the whole concern surrounding his match with AM.
No.94427
Anonymous
Replies:>>94428
>>94423
She was called a pity winner in the thread that announced her win.
No.94428
Anonymous
Replies:>>94430
>>94427
This, Mrs. The Monarch had that actually stigma even before her win so it's not like it's a recent development. I think she's still more generally liked than not but she's not entirely clean either.
No.94429
Anonymous
>>94426
Were people bashing Jack as he won? I remember there was backlash very quickly, especially from here about his worth.
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>>94428
I was actively participating in those threads, since the very first round. Monarch was highly anticipated as a character, even with the show getting "canceled" and gaining some pity hype with it, Monarch actually had ground on her feet as she had a solid character and to boot with it, the most active voterbase imaginable. I was a Tyrfag and loved duck dodgers, and I supported her till the final round and got extremely butthurt when she lost. So I decided to give venture bros a go to see if Monarch was worth the win. I take what I sperged previously back, I honestly think Monarch was more deserving of the win than Tyr'ahnee
No.94431
Anonymous
Replies:>>94435
>>94426
Garland is a weird one because his potential longevity was a concern from the get-go, but it doesn’t change how big of a presence and impact he had in 2022 on /v/ as a whole. Not everyone agrees with his win, but I also feel a lot who voted him were onboard with him. As of right now, the Batter is King’s best example considering the trends he helped to set.

Regardless of whether NSA was pulling BS or not, I would be shocked to learn AM actually won that match in secret. I’d hardly consider it a factor here. He’s the one character that year that I feel had no real question about him beating AM.
No.94432
Anonymous
Replies:>>94434
>>94430
That's fair but I still think if there was gonna be a venture bros. pity win it should've went to male Monarch, who is more iconic and surpasses Mrs. Monarch as a character. But Ms. came first so it had to be that way.
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>>94430
The thing with Tyr is that she was mostly a sex appeal character that relied about 80% on her looks and attitude for votes. This is why it makes her a powerful contender but that doesn't matter when the said opponent has you beat in the thing that you specialize.
No.94434
Anonymous
Replies:>>94438
>>94432
I actually can give a very strong opinion every girl on the Ms. /co/ 2020 E8 (aside from Jucika).
>Dr. Mrs. Monarch
Really don't mind as a winner.
She has the sex appeal but also has a very interesting personality as she does somethings that are very unorthodox and "unwomanly" without going into trans or tomboyish territory. Her relationship with Mr. Monarch is also goddamn pure.
>Tyr'ahnee
Would've made a good board winner and her overall character is beloved by 4chan as a whole. I wouldn't minded but I honestly think Monarch deserved it more.
>Fang
At that time Season 1 was all we went from and it was fucking KINO. This is in my opinion the year that Fang should've won and is probably the best E8 placer in said year (also had at that time the largest amount of OC to date).
>Kim Possible
Would've made a fine winner but honestly, I don't see her as a good winner. I loved the show and the character fucking love redheads but Kim Possible was more so a strong E8 contender than a winner, she really doesn't have that character depth or sexual appeal that many other participants do.
>EVE
Would've been fine but nothing too extraordinary.
She would've been remembered in the same vein as Kronk, very liked but not that noteworthy.
>Starfire
Very fucking overrated. I genuinely would never crown her as she isn't as interesting as Raven or other DC girls. I really don't get why she is so goddamn hyped.
>Chel
Would've honestly made for a top tier winner but she, like in 2022, was dead silent. If she gets a campaign I 100% bet she WILL win.
>Jucika
In my opinion, it would make her into the most WTF winner to date.
No.94435
Anonymous
Replies:>>94439
>>94431
>As of right now, the Batter is King’s best example considering the trends he helped to set.
If anyhting, I would say that makes for a better argument as to why Batter is NOT a good example of voter's regret. It might not be right to describe Garland as "forgettable", but he definitely feels like the least consequential male /v/ winner yet.
No.94437
Anonymous
Replies:>>94437
>>94437
I can remember there being posts in support of Kim and Starfire back in 2020, but it seems whatever support they had in past years dissipated eventually.
No.94438
Anonymous
>>94434
Starfire just falls into that area of widely recognized 2000's nostalgia waifu (and common first fap). I think her and Raven are like Rei-Asuka lite for /co/.
No.94439
Anonymous
>>94435
Well, it would depend how regretted those trends are.
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>Checks booruplus
>It still hasn’t been updated beyond heroes of /co/ semifinals
Well what are you fools waiting for Christmas?
No.95744
Anonymous
Replies:>>95760
can we get rid of the goldfish page? the page doesn't say much more than "this character was nominated but didn't qualify" and the character itself was a dumb meme forced by one guy, who also probably made the page.
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>>95744
>missing a fuckton of pages
>"we should remove a page!"
No.95761
Anonymous
Replies:>>95762
>>95760
making new pages and deleting old shitty ones are not mutually exclusive
No.95762
Anonymous
Replies:>>95763
>>95761
They aren't, but the former is higher priority than deleting a page literally no one but the guy that wants it gone cares about.
No.95763
Anonymous
Replies:>>95764
>>95762
well you don't seem to be doing either
No.95764
Anonymous
>>95763
Correct!
No.95796
Anonymous
Finished the MOST important page in the entire wiki https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Goku
No.95797
Anonymous
>>95796
Finally, a good page.
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Good to know there's no admins on the new wiki
No.95799
Anonymous
>>95796
>no mention of his real wife, Mrs. Brisby
No.95801
Anonymous
>>95798
Don't see anything wrong here.
No.95802
Anonymous
>>95798
Goku lost to Frieza.
No.95804
Anonymous
>>95798
You don't need to be an admin to edit anything, even the front page, so you could remove that yourself if you wanted to. But why would you WANT to remove such a loving tribute to my HERO?
No.95812
Anonymous
Replies:>>95816
>>95798
I've deliberately not bothered locking the front page due to low vandalism concerns, but could change that now.
No.95816
Anonymous
>>95812
Updated. Permissions on the main page are changed along with an important message regarding Son Goku.
No.95824
Anonymous
>>95796
>No info about SaiGAR.
No.95826
Anonymous
Replies:>>95840
>>95824
Also he appeared in the Shitposter Showdown
No.95840
Anonymous
>>95824
>>95826
I just copied the article from the /dbs/ wiki because I'm lazy and busy gokuposting on /a/
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No.95857
Anonymous
>>95848
CHADkuperman…
No.95859
Anonymous
Replies:>>95868
I interrupt your scheduled funposting to inform you of some relevant news: WikiTide is merging with/taking over Miraheze
https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Merger_FAQ
TL;DR This doesn't really impact us since we'll have the same site name (still 4tourney.wikitide.org), everything on the site will be as it was, etc. Really the only thing that changes is new servers and apparently new features. I just thought it was kind of a funny twist of fate seeing as how we got rejected on Miraheze, we went to WikiTide, and now we're ending up with Miraheze anyways.
Though apparently you're advised to create a Miraheze account with the same name and e-mail as your WikiTide account before the merge happens to prevent any potential issues/delays with moving the account over, which I would recommend doing since it couldn't hurt.
No.95868
Anonymous
>>95859
Funnily enough, already have mine ready from working on Saimoe a couple times. Speaking of that, what happened over there? It's clearly being updated outside Queen and King of /v/ stuff, but for some reason the main page redirects to recent changes? Seems real odd not to have a proper hub on any bigger wiki unless I'm missing something here.
No.95889
Anonymous
>>95848
MY HERO!
No.96062
Anonymous
Considering the increase in duo tourneys should pages be made for the more notable pairings / teams?
No.96064
Anonymous
Replies:>>104707
>>96062
No because
>The tournaments have sub to slightly over 100 voters and that’s assuming everyone is voting once
>Theres not much to say and if anything is truly notable it can be mentioned in their character page as most things can be summed up in 1-2 pages
>The main wiki pages are already far behind, in some cases on up to date data and in notable characters there’s main tournament Elite8 characters who haven’t gotten their pages yet
>Characters should only be getting pages if they qualify for a major tournament, that not only gives them significance but also prevents larger issues that are being had with lack of updating
No.104511
Anonymous
so would now be a good time to start doing stuff like icons for co-op and tag team?
No.104512
Anonymous
>>104511
personally I wanna see pages for heroes, villains and side tournaments finally get made.
No.104552
Anonymous
>>104512
>>104511
>major stuff is missing for the main tournaments
>let’s focus on our retarded side tourneys hurrr durrr!
No
No.104554
Anonymous
Replies:>>104555
>>104552
Bejitabro btw
No.104555
Anonymous
Replies:>>104615
>>104554
Do you have any other joke?
No.104615
Anonymous
>>104555
you want cuck jokes or something?
No.104625
Anonymous
>>104552
Major stuff is missing for the side tourneys too.
No.104653
Anonymous
>>104511
>>104512
I personally am focusing on updating the main tournament content at the moment but if you want to do that I don't see the harm especially if you weren't planning on working on other pages anyways
The icons in particular could be a big help in case some of the characters from the side tournaments make their main tourney debut this year
No.104707
Anonymous
>>96062
>>96064
If pages were to be created for duos it should really be saved for the more notable ones, Plunderers, Giant Localizers, the winners, ect.
No.104722
Anonymous
Replies:>>104780
>>104707
I disagree. One character per page.
No.104780
Anonymous
>>104722
If tourney memes like Goku can get a page I cant see why teams can't.
No.104782
Anonymous
Replies:>>104802
>>104780
goku shouldn't have a page
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Its fucked up looking back at Mr. /co/ 2023 and seeing the seeding votes being comparable to fucking tag-team 2024.
No.104784
Anonymous
No.104787
Anonymous
>>104783
Sorry NSA had to ensure Black Hat made the tournament and that required removing a bunch of voters who didn't vote for him
No.104789
Anonymous
>>104783
Its fucked up it took this long for TT2023s page to be updated with the correct qualifiers.
No.104793
Anonymous
>>104789
Ms and Mr /co/ 2018 has never had theirs added after years
No rules are there either
No.104794
Anonymous
>>104789
eh not really
a little wierd
No.104801
Anonymous
>>104783
Means the tourneys are healing
No.104802
Anonymous
>>104780
>>104782
He did qualify for SaiGAR and Funposter Showdown.
No.104819
Anonymous
Proposing another terminology or tourney phenomenon that for that obligatory one odd E8 that doesn't fit, makes people scratch their heads, and doesn't do good again, and that you'd have to have context to understand. Call it the "odd-elite" or "The Black Canary" or something.
No.104829
Anonymous
Replies:>>104831
>>104819
That's just getting a lucky bracket.
No.104831
Anonymous
>>104819
>>104829
Or call it 8th place.
No.104880
Anonymous
>>104707
>>104780
You could always just write about the team tournament performance on the respective characters pages
No.104898
Anonymous
>>104819
Early Installment Weirdness is just a better description of characters like Black Canary and results that don't really match tournaments later on when more people join in
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>>104783
>NSA doesn't host Mr. 2024
>qualifier results still end up that low
No.104947
Anonymous
Anyone have any characters they want to write about that don't have a page? I'll fill out the infobox and results template but leave the tournament history blank so you can just focus on writing that instead of having to get bogged down in filling out templates and stats
No.104950
Anonymous
>>104947
probably Dale
No.104951
Anonymous
Replies:>>104953
Anyone gonna make a new wiki maintenance thread?
No.104952
Anonymous
>>104947
SHODAN would be good to have, she seems like the only major Queen 2023 character that nobody's written about yet
No.104953
Anonymous
Replies:>>104955
No.104954
Anonymous
Just came across an orphaned page for the /an/ tourney. The navbox has the tourney down but is linked wrong, I would fix it myself but I either don't have permission to or I'm too dense to figure out how to edit it.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki//an/lympics_2023
No.104955
Anonymous
>>104953
*sniff*