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The current site can be located at: https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages
Feel free to discuss whatever in this thread regarding the tournament wiki page but you shouldn't expect fast replies.
>>990
Brooke CONFIRMED to have HUGE tits but CORAL IS FLAT BTFO
>>987
Will there be a page for Orel Peterson or Ceasar Anon?
Want to remind you that any of the 128 girls who are in this tournament are eligible for a page on the wiki. You have to make it though if you want to see it
Also thanks for the anons helping out on the wiki. I'll add the current results in a little
Could someone add some information about Round 4 for Mr /co/ in 2019? Would especially appreciate it from someone who was actually there to experience it, but it can go either way.
Here's a post about it made from /co/ to get an idea:
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The main thing was Bugs Bunny vs Zim, which lead to not only to shitflinging, but a massive trap-off to see which character looked best in girl clothes (note that this was the year Enter the Florpus came out so the board was in a bit of a Zim-rush)
Not only that, but there was also Kronk vs Grievous, the silent majority winner vs one of the most hyped up contestants of the tournament due to all the amazing OC Grievous got. So there were definitely alot of posts about that matchup thrown in the mix.
There were also folks heavily seething about Joker, for he was able to knock out both Donald AND Daffy (essentially preventing a hyped up Donald vs Daffy matchup from happening in Round 3) and there was paranoia that the ones voting for Joker were trolls from /tv/. In the end, Joker lost to Skeletor by ONE vote.
Oh, and there was a bit of Skeleton Gang posting in there as well. Including some involving the match up of Iroh vs Grim.
The only time Mr /co/ ever came close to the show of Round 4 was the Finals in 2020, where the gay wedding event happened.
Replies:>>1430
>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Miss_Pauling
Wiki admins might want to lock this down before it gets ugly.
Replies:>>1437
Should poll pictures be added to the Ms. /co/ 2021 page?
>>1358
it's quickly deleted, but i'm going to reconstruct her article with relevant info (why she's technically /co/, contest history, pictures etc.) But it's gonna be slow because i need to read the tf2 comics
>>1429
I think there should be a redirect to a separate compilation page instead, because that's 128 pictures of girls that will be put there.
But before that the poll pics should be uploaded first.
Replies:>>1527
Someone needs to write longer history/details for the other winners.
>>1526
Yeah I apologize for that (I made several big-candidate pages a while back and all I had were blurbs, other editors seemed to have a lot more to provide). What should be added to some winner?
>>1442
If we add toruney anon we would probably have to add f*se. Do they deserve it?
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>>1527
Jenny's involvement and importance in the contest should be lengthened.
https://msco.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1182
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>>1442
>>1533
Not the original, but I think we should add Tourney Anon just in case he gets the idea of coming back. I know he did that for both Queen and King /v/ last year.
>>1528
Yes. As a warning.
Though I'd also recommend either adding in Fuse's BTFO moment by Black Hand or making his article boring to read. Don't make him out to be a martyr or something like that.
>>1544
>I know he did that for both Queen and King /v/ last year.
He technically didn't come back for those though.
Queen was his first attempt and he was chill during King.
Just double-checking, but a character needs to qualify for Mr./Ms. /co/ or have an overwhelming presence otherwise (like Ramses in the RP) to get a page, right? So individual characters who qualified for Tag-Team don't get their own page?
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>>1550
Pretty much, tag-team entries won't count unless they are particularly notable. The is a case by case basis because there are examples of characters who were significant despite not making a tourney (or stuff like Henchgwen which can't qualify but are significant oc)
For example the Goldfish one, if no goldfish qualify, will likely either be merged into one goldfish page or be removed if it's not enough info
>>1554
>OP images for the Results/Afterparty
Have no idea what you mean by this dude
Just yesterday I managed to add General Grievous, Twig, Chris McClean and The Monarch's pages to the wiki. They're not exactly detailed, but I could probably get to them later if someone else doesn't (though I may be real busy this October). There's also a page for Grim now.
Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.
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>>1559
>I managed to add General Grievous, Twig, Chris McClean and The Monarch's pages to the wiki.
As a RPer i know quite a lot about them so if you need some more info just ask.
Sorry but i don't know how to work on a Wiki.
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Anon who posted the general records won by the E8, you probably found them around the tourney. Might as well posting here the records of all E8 since I don't know how to work a wiki. Some of those might be already inserted, but you never know.
>Oldest Members: Betty Boop for Ms./co/ (1930) and Daffy for Mr./co/ (1937)
>Youngest Members: Fang for Ms./co/ (October 2019, beating Spinel by a month) and WALL-E for Mr./co/ (June 2008; Beating Doofenshmirtz by 5 months)
>Highest seeds: Superman (2018; top seed) and Spinel (2019; top seed)
>Lowest seeds: Black Canary (2018; 66th) and Hugh Neutron (2020; 53rd)
>Highest seed winners: Spinel for Ms./co/ (1st) and Johnny Bravo for Mr./co/ (4th)
>Lowest seed winners: Jenny Wakeman for Ms./co/ (37th) and Tom for Mr./co/ (46th)
>Winner with the smallest vote margin: Betty Boop (Won by 10 votes)
>Winner with the largest vote margin: Spinel (Won by 186 votes*)
>From the same channel: Cartoon Network with 18 characters (Counting also Raven and Starfire because of Teen Titans; Batman and Superman because of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Justice League Action; and Daffy Duck because of Duck Dodgers)
>First non-american characters: Jucika (Hungary) and Wallace (UK), both of them in the same year
>All the main characters from Courage the Cowardly Dog have been at least once in their respective E8 (Although I'm not sure if they're the first, since I don't know if you only need to count Samurai Jack and Aku as the main characters for that to beat the record already or characters like Ashi and the Scotsman are considered main characters)
Also, other records, not necessarily from the Elite 8:
>Rounds with the smallest vote margin for Ms./co/: Jinx VS Wonder Woman (2018; Jinx wins by 1 vote); Hekapoo VS Demencia (2020; Hekapoo wins by 1 vote)
>Rounds with the smallest vote margin for Mr./co/: Captain America VS Courage (2018; Cap wins by 1 vote); Skeletor VS The Joker (2019; Skeletor wins by 1 vote); Daffy Duck VS Samurai Jack
(2020; Daffy wins by 1 vote). As of now, Mr./co/ had for three consecutive years at least one matchup that was determined by 1 vote
>>1562
Also, might as well add the records won in the Tag Team Tournament, if you want them to be lumped with the rest. Although it's more of a Final Four:
>Oldest members: The Power of Two with Oswald the Lucky Rabbit and Mickey Mouse (1927 and 1928 respectively), if you include these tournaments with the rest, Oswald is the oldest finalist
>Youngest members: North Pole Express with Klaus and Jesper Johansson (November 2019), if included, they are both the youngest finalists
>The Freelance Police (Sam and Max) are the first winners that originated from a comic
>The Wiley Eggs (Robotnik and Dr. Wiley) are the first finalists that didn't originate from a comic or a cartoon
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>>1559
>Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.
Why those ones in particular?
>>1564
>Because of....
Mao Mao's Round 1 curse + RP
Dan's RP
Joker disrupting the hyped up "Duck Bowl" in 2019 and only losing to Skeletor by one vote
Godzilla for not "exactly" being /co/ yet having a presence in contests (I know Eggman at least got one), plus he seems to have gotten into every Mr /co/ so far.
Zim for the trap off in 2019 and that he may have been in every contest now I believe?
>>1561
The wiki isn't hard to figure out and if you're stuck you can just copy another character's page (I find it easier to switch from 'visual editing' to 'source editing') and change the details around. As long as you don't fuck with any of the important pages or undo a lot of someone else's work, you're fine.
Replies:>>1573
Should I bother to go back and make some screencaps or would that be a complete waste of time?
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>>1571
Any moments in particular you were thinking of? You could also add them to the booru if you aren't sure.
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>>1573
Janny deletion of the nomination thread or at least the parts that I can still find archived
>>1574
I do have an IMGUR of some posts I screenshotted of people bitching on the nomination thread getting deleted.
>>1559
>Might make pages for Dan, Mao Mao, Joker, Godzilla and Zim later, assuming someone else doesn't want to make them first.
Nah you can
Would you guys like me to make character plates for 2019? I can get around to it until next week at the earliest.
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>>1586
I'm strongly against this. That year doesn't deserve commemoration and it honestly would just be a waste of your time when you have to do another 128 plates a week after.
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>>1588
It doesn't have to be next week, though if I did do it and since I said I would try to help with King/Queen /v/, I probably wouldn't get to it until January. I'll ask during Mr. /co/ and if a lot of responses are like yours I won't do it.
>>1590
I'll add right here too, if the previous bracketsanon was vehemently against it too I'll drop it.
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>>1586
Please no. That would just be a waste of time.
Making special brackets for Queen and King /v/ though....
Is there a king and queen of /v/ dedicated wiki? I'm creating articles on some of their tournaments on my home wikia such as these:
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/King_of_/v/_2019
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/King_of_/v/_2020
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_/v/_2019
https://saimoe.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_/v/_2020
I'm considering transferring them into the Mr & Ms. /co/ wikia so that there's only one place to upload the character icon templates. But if anons don't like it, then the /v/ tournaments will remain in the above links instead.
I'm also planning to create a page on Miss /aco/ 2021 if that event manages to finish.
>>1594
2/3 of the /v/ tournament threads are just /co/ crossposters if you haven't already realized by reading those threads.
>>1527
>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_America
Surprised this one doesn't have anything
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>https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Dan_(Dan_Vs.)
Damn...I'm impressed by the autism levels
the bracket for mr. /co/ 2021 in the wiki is finally finished
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._/co/lympus_2021
Alastor qualified. He needs to go on the Qualified part of the NavBox.
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Male_Characters_Navbox
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>>1655
Danfag is insanely autistic as we all know
I'm surprised the Maoanon hasn't made a page yet
Welp, Grievous has won.
Do you think we could get some people to expand more on his page?
Or at least add his streaks from this year and last year?
Replies:>>2092
Just gonna point out Blacksad has a page while the other detectives (apart from Mao Mao) don't yet. I'd do it myself but I'm not well versed in Mr. /co/ lore
Replies:>>2075
I think most winners desperately need to have their pages expanded upon. It's quite alarming how characters like Dan get Bibles for pages (though I must say he is sort of an isolated case here), but heavy-hitters with a high presence and long board and tournament history like Skeletor are a blank slate. I would do it myself, but I'm rather busy right now.
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>>2074
It's because the winner are the least interesting characters, people don't actually care about them, they're actually the biggest losers of these tournaments.
>>2075
That's a gigantic cope and you know it. Plenty of Elite Eight members have their own dedicated fanbases on top of being generally well-known to begin with. Sheila and Grievous in particular have been some of the highlights of their respective years.
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Should Queen and King of /v/ be added too, or simply give them their own wiki?
>>8516
I say they should have their own wiki because they can stand on their own
>>8519
tourney was rp'ing as dan right?
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>>992
>I love Colette so damn much.
I said this once and I have to say it again.
I love Colette so damn much.
>>8523
Yeah /co/lette is good, she deserves the staying power she has had as a board creation.
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I THINK /CO/LETTE SUCKS!User was banned for this post
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>>8526
lol
>>8522
ah my bad, I got them mixed up
Just made a page for Sam and Max. Are there any other characters which need to have their own dedicated page?
Just a few things:
At the moment, every winner (to the exception of Spinel) has been given their own gallery section on their respective page. Should everyone get a gallery too, or just leave it for the champions and some select exceptions? It might sound like a very inconsequential question, but I want to know what other anons think as it has been suggested before. Personally, I'm more inclined to declare it a champion exclusive thing given the wiki already links to the booru a making a gallery for everyone else sounds like a ton of work on top of all the wiki maintenance that's yet to be done.
The other thing I want to mention is that I'm considering doing full personalized brackets for Queen and King of /v/, as long as the current bracket anon for the /co/ tourneys or anybody else interested is ok with me stepping in here.
>>9066
(Posting to appropriate thread)
i meant learning the text formatting like bolds, italics, links, and templates lol
but yeah, this is a fandom wikia, you have to embrace your inner autism there
IMO it really does depend on how much the contributor knows about the series and /co/ culture, and whether they are motivated enough to actually write it
i personally follow a loose guideline like this:
>here is character from [insert whatever series and their origins]
>here is their general character info
>as a /co/mpetitor, they're blah blah blah
>they are popular on /co/ because [reason], they gained a reputation because [something something tourney history], etc.
>insert tournament history, when they appeared, what results, add notable moments, include some lore-related stuff.
admittedly it does sound dry and boring sometimes. of course not all articles are perfectly written, and there's bound to be wrong or missing info that pops up. unfortunately it all falls solely on the users to correct it.
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There's a month and a few days until Ms /co/
What should get updated or created?
>>10007
If pages are blank or terrible quality and they aren’t Elite 8 or above they should probably be removed. They can always be remade when someone wants to make it
RadioAnon/Psyanon here. When I get a chance, I'll make/update the pages for the vocaroos. I noticed some of them were incomplete or missing altogether. Someone mentioned having .mp3 uploads at some point, but it never came up. Is there a reliable place to host the files in case vocaroo croaks?
>>10442
Go on archive.org, make a free account, go to the audio file section and make an archive of all the files at one place (or maybe one per tournament).
Easiest and probably safest way to archive them outside having copies locally stored yourself
Most female character pages are up to date, a number of them still need to be slightly updated with format or results but they can be done when the newest ms /co/ results are ready. There's a few character pages that are barely filled out or not at all and might be deleted if no one fills them out after the tournament ends. You can always remake them if you fill it out fully though
If you are going to make a new page for a character who qualified for any tournament, just make sure a decent amount of information about them and their results are there when the page is made
sooooo, is anyone gonna tell the wiki the news
>>11283
Wikifag here, we’re mostly going to be busy updating character pages. Shirley was in the final so she gets 2nd place, if you are wondering that.
>>11283
If this is about Chel and Shirley, I'm not gonna mess with what's on the wiki. Also gonna ask any anons genuinely angry about this year to not fuck with the wiki in general.
>>11287
Nvm should Chel and Shirley just be switched?
>>11445
>>11287
I’m angrier that you’re listening to one guy. Instead of everyone else. There’s one dude on /co/ going thread to thread complaining. How do you know it’s him?
He says the same crap everytime.
If you looked at the post where NSA reveals that placing Shirley in third was not a mistake. You see most of the anons cheering for dabbing on riggers. That thread had the most posters.
https://boards.4channel.org/co/thread/132933033#p132934399
Please don’t be the only one letting them win.
>>11449
I'm not a wiki admin which is why I'm hesitant to do the changes myself.
>>11450
Didn’t they say in the Ms. /co/ thread on here, they would change it? Or was that you?
>>11285
Shirley gets 2nd place. Anon that’s pretty fucked.
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>>11285
Huh? What kind of cockamamie shit is this? Shirley got to finals by cheating and was disqualified.
>>11458
you don’t let a character into finals and then “disqualify” them after the whole thing is over and they’ve already lost
and admittedly we don’t have a precedent for this, but if you’re going to disqualify someone it should entail more than just bumping them down one rank. it would make more sense to mark them as, you know, disqualified. DQ’d.
and you don’t do any of this without having a proper matchup with the real finalists and arguably one for 3rd place as well.
what NSA did is little more than lip service for a problem he knew about but couldn’t be assed to fix. he can say whatever he wants, but the poll results, the rules and procedures of Ms. /co/, and the way in which a bracket works all say otherwise. Rigged or not, Shirley went to finals and lost. Therefore, she is 2nd. Chel lost the semifinals but won the match for 3rd. Therefore, she is 3rd.
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>>11467
>You don't disqualify a rigging character.
Yeah ok. Nobody wants this.
Also everyone knows the moderators wouldn't allow another thread. There was no way to do a match between them. You've been reposting this nonsense since everyone blew you the fuck out.
Fuck off rig fag.
>>11467
You've been trying to change the narrative all this time. This is pathetic.
>>11285
And this is ridiculous. Shirley was in the final because she cheated. We all know it. He showed it. Nobody agreed with letting her through but the cheaters. So now you're saying the host who did a vote and got the overwhelming majority of people saying remove riggers can't remove a character who shouldn't of been there in the first place? That's insane. Wiki guys just make up rules. At least the fuckin host gauged reactions. This is just pulled out of your ass to agree with cheaters.
If you're going to ignore the final result then why not just put whoever you want up there? Since you're going to do what you want anyway. No matter how many anons don't want that.
>>11449
This. There's way more positive replies. And you can tell which negative ones are from the same guy. Then the ones that say Chel should fight Fang don't disagree with the demotion. They just wanted another chance at finals.
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>>11285
Ignoring the argument, but the "winning" image with Fang and Shirley was quickly made. Seemed more like trolling. The quality is shotty.The image used for Fang looks bad because it was someone else's then upscaled. The Elite 8 are grey like in Betty Boop's. I just wanted to point that out.
call me crazy but are the narrativefags, the wikifags and the riggerniggers all the same person/group?
>>11468
>>11469
>>11470
if shirley had been removed earlier as opposed nightshift doing 6D chess last minute rule changes we wouldn't be having this conversation.
the conversation we would be having is "can hosts just straight up remove characters they think are cheating?" but that's a lot less asinine than what we have now.
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>>11477
They can now. Anytime they remove cheating votes they are.
I think a host should remove cheating characters. Else we end up with this. The host seeing cheating and being powerless to stop it makes me feel like we should remove all rules.
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>>11479
removing cheating votes is not removing cheating characters. anyone worth his salt will agree hosts should remove cheating votes, of course they should. and if the character loses because of that, that's perfectly fine. but to remove a character by fiat? that is out of line.
and before you ask what the difference is, in the former case the character's elimination is a consequence of the host's expected duties as a facilitator. the latter is the host directly interfering in the tournament.
and before you say "why are you talking about this it never happened" i know
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>>11481
I don't even know what you're talking about. Anytime a host removes votes we assume they are being truthful. Removing a cheater before the round ends or after the round ends makes no difference.
When a character cheats and you know it. They are disqualified. This is basic shit that happens in every other tourney. Any host with common sense would do this. People have won and then had their awards removed. I don't even know what you're arguing. Are you saying Shirley and Nichole shouldn't even be on the winner's podium? Then I agree.
>>11285
Other tourneys/competitions
>Cheaters discovered cheating and win lose their medal.
4chan tourney
>Cheaters can outright say they're cheating. The audience says kick them out, and wikifags will have them stay on the as winners. Making the competitions and the wiki not match, and leading to confusion for new anons.
Genius idea. So now the wiki is obsolete, and only hurts the reader.
>>11477
>can hosts just straight up remove characters they think are cheating?"
That's basically what removing rigged votes is.
>>11482
>People have won and then had their awards removed.
yeah, because of shit discovered after the fact. Nightshift knew there was rigging for Shirley and, instead of doing his job and removing the rigged votes, let Shirley move on.
>>11487
No, he asked anons what he should do. He discovered her rigging for the first time in round 3. We were all told.
Even then, that's still not a good excuse for why we should let her take second place. This is a pisspoor reason for your defense.
>>11487
Didn't you say he removed her placing after the fact? Didn't he discover rigging in the final round? That means by your logic he still did the right thing.
Finding out rigging and removing them.
Also they will void your win even before the match ends. This happens in other competitions.
>>11489
He can't even keep his argument straight. This is the retard wikifags are listening to.
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>>11475
No, I'm completely fine with changing Chel to 2nd place and adding the new e8 image. I'd just like the person who runs the wiki to OK it too or else we might get a Spinel situation with those pages locked down.
>>11489
>Didn't he discover rigging in the final round?
he discovered rigging in round 3, and did nothing.
and if he didn't know there was rigging until the final round, then what the hell was up with that gambit with the rules vote?
but fine, maybe you're right. maybe he didn't know about this stuff until the results came in. so why, dear anon, did he not
1. remove the rigged votes and leave it at that, or
2. disqualify shirley entirely instead of just fudging the placements
because again, I wouldn't even be arguing with you if Shirley had been completely disqualified. but she wasn't.
>>11492
>he discovered rigging in round 3, and did nothing.
He did nothing because "we" told him to do nothing. Considering how fucking angry people get over these contests and with the hosts I'm not surprised he went with it.
CHEL DID NOT COMPETE FOR SECOND PLACE, SHIRLEY DID.
In no honest tournament in the history of man has a new rule been introduced at the exact end of tournament to be used to retroactively disqualify a participant for a previous round. It makes no sense and it's unfair for everyone involved. The moment Fang and Shirley were declared the finalists was the moment the positions were set in stone and nothing can change that. You cannot "demote" a participant.
>>11495
At bare minimum can we get a fucking better e8 image, what's on the wiki is embarrassing comparing to the one the drawfag made.
let's just have the wiki show shirley in 2nd in the fan art and have a controversy section where it explains how she also is in 3rd etc etc
I don't think we're ever gonna come to terms on who won what and even though I'm on NSA's side applying the rule change was damage control thanks to not sorting out the rigging in round 3
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>>11502
What I'm thinking of doing is adding the elite eight pic the drawfag made to Fang's, Chel's and Shirley's pages and noting them as "alternatives". I also wrote about the controversy on Fang's and Chel's entries and I'll add it to Shirley's when I get around to doing hers.
>>11492
Shirley was rigging then she shouldn't be in the finals. This is a non argument. You're just saying Shirley needs to be removed. Which I agree with. So regardless Chel gets second place by default.
>>11495
In no tournament has a cheater been allowed to keep their trophies. Nothing is set in stone. You can change who gets what based on that in every tournament. You said this same exact dumb shit before.
>>11498
Samefag
>>11502
Let's just have the wiki not match the tourney. Have the wiki show her in 3rd or completely disqualified then say she was caught cheating. I can't comprehend how stupid you have to be to think this shit would fly in any other competition. Lance Armstrong won 7 awards and had ALL of them revoked. The rule change happened because round three the samefag troll said to let them through, because NightShift couldn't gauge most reactions. Now wiki fags are gauging it based on the same thing we all know is bad. When the final poll said take rigging characters out.
It's so blatant this is trolling. There is no artwork of Shirley or Nichole winning. There is no thread celebrating them. But Chel and Fang have threads cheering them on. There's like 200 ips between them. The after party threads complaining had like 30 ips.
The "winning" image is poorly made. It was quickly made too. Why would someone who truly believes in those results make an image with no effort? Everything about this idea is so dumb you might as well ignore the host, psyanon, and the majority of voters.
>>11514
Basing your decision on trolls instead of us is just ridiculous. The wiki should remove Johnny bravo and put Captain America instead. After all he "won" in the poll. If you think Shirley should get second place because of this logic then Captain America should get first.
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>>11491
The wiki guy said he was concerned about change wars. But he can lock pages? I don't understand. So he's willing to leave up inaccurate info, and complain when someone trolls and tries to replace it but he can just block them? Does the main wikiguy read these threads or does he operate on his own.
>>11572
I'm going to look at your points.
>More ips agree with the change.
Looking at it yeah. Even here most people seem to be arguing against the wiki.
>Trolls made the final image.
I didn't even notice how bad it looked. But yeah. All asterisk posting was quickly made.
>Other contests would disqualify her
I wonder if NSA thought of this? Because he really should of did it.
>Wiki not matching the tourney it can lead to confusion.
This is a big problem. How will we actually know who won? The threads and the polls will say different. If wiki anons want to make revisionist history then their wiki is less accurate.
>All others but the wiki said Chel is in second place.
Wiki looks mismanaged when you point that out. Like they have their own horse in this race.
>>11572
>Nothing is set in stone.
maybe that's the problem. maybe hosts shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want and change rules without asking or telling anyone. maybe, and hear me out, maybe that's been the entire problem with Nightshift from day one.
>>11575
What rules did he change? He waited until he got approval by a vote. The letting Shirley in was less legitimate than him removing her.
And again. How do you argue against every other competition revoking awards from a person who was caught cheating. Either during the event or after?
>>11575
He waited til anons gave him the abilty to. Then he did. He's been pretty by the book.
>>11575
All hosts should have basic powers.
>Check for cheating.
>Remove cheater.
Almost like it an unspoken rule too.
>>11574
>The wiki guy said he was concerned about change wars. But he can lock pages? I don't understand. So he's willing to leave up inaccurate info, and complain when someone trolls and tries to replace it but he can just block them? Does the main wikiguy read these threads or does he operate on his own.
No, I can't lock pages, I'm not one of the admins. I just like making/editing pages. If I was, yes I'd just go with NSA's ruling and change Chel to 2nd and lock a few pages for a month or two so people would chill out. I've been hanging around this thread stupidly hoping someone in charge of the wiki would show up and give us the go ahead to make the changes.
>>11579
This. Wikianons just don't have any logic. Even now I don't think there is a real argument against moving Chel to second. I voted Shirley until she was revealed as rigged because of her campaign.
Why didn't Wikianons create a vote if they wanted to get the reactions of voters? Why aren't the wiki guys and the hosts working together?
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>>11576
>He waited until he got approval by a vote.
he deleted every vote that didn't give him approval
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>>11582
We saw the poll. Even with the cheater's votes in, it still was an overwhelming yes. You just made it obvious you cheated.
Replies:>>11590
>>11580
Were you the one in the Ms. /co/ thread saying you'd change it if art was made of the real winners?
>>11581
>>11583
First of all there is no "wiki guys". We're not like an official branch of the competitions, there's just some of us who consistently show up every now and then to edit the pages. I wouldn't know how to get in touch with any of them if you asked me. But there's nothing stopping any of you in this thread from making the edits, you don't even need an account. I imagine this thread was made for shit like "should this character/event get a page" and questions about codes or whatever, not this shitshow we're currently dealing with. My fear that there would be an editing war is sincere, especially since I don't have the power to lock entries.
>>11575
Nothing is set in stone.
The future isn't guaranteed.
We can only live life like today is our last day.
>>11588
I meant why isn't the guy in charge of the wiki here? Does he read any of this? The hosts have organization and open ways to speak to em. NighgShift has his email on the site just for you to message him. It shouldn't be hard to speak to them especially if they put up this thread.
Not blaming you. It just seems redundant.
>>11588
So you're the only one reading these threads? Damn. I don't want to change the wiki just for them to revoke it and ban me etc. I just want them to answer why they did what they did.
>>11588
I feel like an editing war would be caused by one anon. He's been using the wiki to troll so I would correct the wiki then lock it.
>>11588
Sorry you have to go through this. But it just feels like a wiki thread made by wiki guys should have the main editor in them. I thought this page would be for telling them mistakes, or asking to add pictures.
>>988
Guys it says don't expect fast replies. They'll get to it eventually.
Replies:>>11601
One of the ''wiki guys'' here. The admin is "MrMsCo", who was last active three days ago. Don't know if he's actually been in this thread or not. As far as I know the best that could be done (if you feel his approval is necessary) is to message wall him.
Replies:>>11604
>>11599
I want to but what’s his email? Message wall him? If you got a link or something I’m willing to do it.
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>>11584
no you fucking tard, it doesn't matter how much one option won by. if he was deleting votes for the other option, he had clearly made up his mind already. those new rules weren't even supposed to go into effect until the next tournament.
the guy with a history of changing rules behind the scenes changed rules behind the scenes, and he's a turbonigger, and Shirley is in 2nd regardless of what he says because she made it to the finals and that's how tournaments work. if you have a problem with any of this, you can gargle my ballsack.
>>11602
Tournaments don’t allow cheaters to keep their place. That’s not how tournaments work.
>>11601
https://mrmsco.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:MrMsCo
The homepage for the wiki should change it's "Current Ms. /co/ Tournament" to "Latest Ms. /co/ Tournament" and use this image.
Just noticed the wiki's color scheme is Jenny. Intentional or not that's cool.
So called admin of the Wiki here
>Why were you gone the past week?
I started a new job and have little to no time right now
>Can you update the frontpage?
Done
>What should be done about Chel/Shirley?
Still undecided, I think best case is mark both 2nd/3rd and make a note about the circumstance It's a very tough shell to crack because it's never been done before but you can input your thoughts
>Can you lock ______ or ban _____
I haven't been following edits the past week so I don't know what people want locked or what vandalism is being made, please be more specific with examples
>Can you make ____ have mod privileges
I've tried asking people if they wanted admin privileges before since I'm not super active and they can make the frontpage nice and all and everyone ignored them. If I do I want to make sure it's not some autist like Tourneyanon getting that privilege or making obscene rules or banning people. This is supposed to be a very low-key wiki
>>11642
> Still undecided, I think best case is mark both 2nd/3rd and make a note about the circumstance It's a very tough shell to crack because it's never been done before but you can input your thoughts
Shirley 3rd place with an asterisk or disqualified. 4th Nicole too, 5th Brisby as well.
1.)In every competition cheaters during or after are punished. They lose their awards. It’s common sense.
2.)It’s obvious the placement for Shirley is a troll from the samefag. Even the win image is halfassed.
3.)70 to 80% of anons voted to removed cheaters.
4.)I voted Chel and I’m fine she got second place. Rig fags have been trying to ape our name.
5.)Other wiki editors wanted to change the page to the correct girl. There’s 2 on the board saying they would.
6.)The wiki should match the tourney. It’s a record of the tourney. If we were going only by the poll Captain America would be the first Mr. /co/. It’s inconsistent to not follow that now.
7.)This >>11475
Overall I think wiki anons ignoring the ruling sets a bad precedent. The host had a vote for his rule, but the wiki guys just listened to samesfags. Which we all know is an awful idea from seeing Round 3 when NDA did it.
Replies:>>11678
>>11649
The 11475 is just saying they have tried to make several excuses pretending to be several groups. None of them make sense.
If anything please just use basic rules etiquette or common sense.
Looking at Lance Armstrong(caught after lost all awards), Ben Johnson, Forsaken(caught during), the list goes on.
>>11649
the precedent we should be setting here is “hosts can’t make up new rules and fuck with the results after the tournament is already over” and before you say hosts should remove cheaters or people voted to remove cheaters, no. hosts should remove votes they think are illegitimate, and people voted for hosts to silently remove illegitimate votes. that does not entail any of the bullshit NSA pulled.
The issue at play here, and also in the argument over Fang having an asterisk, is not about cheaters. It’s about NSA being a raging turbofaggot who overstepped his bounds.
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>>11642
The winning image you used shows Shirley in 3rd with an asterix you might as well commit.
>>11653
>hosts should remove votes they think are illegitimate, and people voted for hosts to silently remove illegitimate votes.
I agree that's the best solution, isn't that exactly what NightShift is going to do as for Mr. /co/?
Replies:>>11673
>>11667
Maybe but mr /co/ never had rigging iirc except for the very first year with captain skrull, especially since everyone who participates is worthy of the title and not an aggressive waifu popularity contest.
>>11572
This. Chel V Fang should have been the final round. Now we have a third placer that should be second or first place and a first placer that could conceivably been second place.
Replies:>>11675
>>11642
I'm going to agree with the anon saying cheaters should be punished. Shirley should not have gotten there. Therefore she should not recieve the accolades. To give her third place knowing all we know is spitting in the face of sportsmanship.
I think saying Chel vs Fang could have resulted differently is the same as arguing Chel vs any of the other contestants she got to skip because of Tyrhanne could have resulted differently. All we can go on is what happened.
Chel "lost" to Shirley, and as unfair as the win was, Chel lost. Fang however beat Shirley.
Replies:>>11679
>>11673
So, we can expect things to get better from now on? I mean this new rule is pretty much going to erase 50% of the drama if it's applied and no character gets their reputation tarnished. Only person I don't see applying because he's too ignorant it's Temp.
Replies:>>11686
>>11675
Hopefully. People will probably still accused characters of being rigged but that happens in every tournament. As long as hosts don't enter the threads and start talking about it, then we should be good. Only time something good came out of that was rumorposting in last year's King of /v/.
>>11686
Don't know about Mr. /co/ but supposedly Queen and King of /v/ this year will be hosted by NightShiftAnon and LazyDayAnon, although we need to make sure LazyDay isn't just Tourney in disguise. What I want to know is if Geralt can enter this year seeing as the rule that was made to block him out doesn't even apply to him.
Replies:>>11697
>>11687
I thought we didn't know who king/queen was being hosted by
I know mr./co/ is definitely nigthshift
>>11690
They discussed it over in the /v/ hype thread here: >>9990
Here's their posts in question:
>>11130
>>11158
>>11160
>>11161
>>11163
>>11165
>>11168
Honestly I hope either Sheets or Macho Manon return this year to host because there will inevitably be drama with NightShift hosting unless Mr. /co/ helps improve his current reputation.
>>11697
NightShiftAnon hosted last year too. I don’t think most people care as long as he does what he said he wanted to do. (Just delete rigged votes and stay quiet) I’m just glad Fernanon isn’t involved anymore. From what NightShiftAnon said, he just didn’t do anything except drama post. So it looks like he’s learning to not just trust anyone. I never understood why he let him help since Fern was always a self admitted shit head.
I saw he said he was building a host rotation now though. Maybe he plans on retiring by the end of the year? But so far he said he’s hosting all the tourneys this year, and the new host is in training until King /v/alhalla where he’ll take over.
>>11697I'm more curious if he'll add the Grandfather rule since tournaments prior to 21 never needed one but with E&I and the new rule it'd probably need to be applied
>>11700
I remember NightShift was there last year. He was fine, just posted results and didn't get involved in the threads until after the finals. I know nobody wants Dominos back after how he acted last year in both /v/ and Tag Team. Good thing Fern isn't coming back either, dude did nothing except make the situation worse. What happened to Ghost? He was silent throughout the whole tournament.
>>11701
Who would it apply to? I can only think of the guns and Geralt.
>>11702
Ghost is NSA’s personal friend he got to help. Probably just asked him to post threads when he wasn’t there.
>>11700
I assumed he was desperate. Guy said he couldn’t even find a willing host for /v/. I don’t think he’s retiring unless we force him to. Something about passing the torch if he is still unfavorable by the end of the year.
>>11687
>although we need to make sure LazyDay isn't just Tourney in disguise
>this lack of activity in the site
Oh no
>>11701
The only rule I saw him add was the rig checking rule. /v/ and /co/ tourneys aren’t connected. I don’t think anyone wants the grandfather rule in.
>>11704
NSA you better be clearing this guy well. You can’t afford another fuck up like this.
I’d like it if LazyDay spoke to us first. At least introduce yourself.
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>>11704
NightShift said he is well aware of Tourney’s existence, maybe we don’t have much to worry about in the end.
>>11702
Who’s idea was it to remove Geralt?
I like nightshift's idea, we need more hosts that can jump in when needed rather than one host for everything
now that being said I've more tinfoil hate theories:
either lazyday is:
Tourney
or
Nightshift in disguise so he can dump one trip for another
>>11707
But NSA said he never dealt with Tourney. He never joined the Tag Team shit show. I don’t even know what he did. Dominos apparently knowingly let him help.
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>>11709
Lazy day and night butted heads when Lazy first showed up. Lazy created a rumor, apologized. Then offered to host /v/‘s tourney after.
I don’t think they’re the same guy, because NSA posted in Lazy’s thread.
>>11711
I forgot to add.
He posted in his thread because NSA’s got pruned when his internet cut out. I can definitely see him as tourney though.
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>>11708
I can’t remember exactly, but I think it was brought up during nominations because some anons questioned the inclusion of AM and others responded with a justification along the lines of "if the original creator was involved in the vidya adaptation the character in question should be allowed in". Mind you, that was never applied as an actual rule and none of the hosts made a statement regarding it. I personally believe the real reason Geralt didn’t make it was because the hosts either forgot about it (bunch dumbasses) or had no previous context of who Geralt even was (bunch of dumbasses).
Whatever’s the case, both him and AM should be allowed to participate this year since they very much are synonymous with vidya.
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>>11709
Putting my hat on now.
If nsa is looking for other hosts it makes no sense to make yourself the other host alt. Especially in a contest you don’t know. Lazy is just taking over /v/. Which nsa admitted he doesn’t browse enough to host well. He’d be shooting himself in the foot. Ruining two trips. I’d sooner believe Ghost is his alt.
Tourney would be the worst case scenario.
Dominos would be ehh. Coin flip.
Stats?
The original host?
>>11716
Spoon feed me pls. Someone said he did what the current host did. But he sounds like the boogeyman from how everyone describes him here. He can’t be worse than the first host of Mr. /co/ right?
>>11718
The tl;dr on TourneyAnon/Numnuts Anon/KawaiiSenpai/whatever the fuck he's called is that he's a massive faggot and attention whore who tries to take over tournaments every year so he can rig his favorite characters to win. He's also a RP fag who would try and refuse to let characters enter cause they wouldn't match his RP. Literally nobody wants him here except himself and the only reason why he hasn't been banned is because he's not breaking any rules.
>He can’t be worse than the first host of Mr. /co/ right?
He's worse. That guy at least admitted what he did was wrong and stepped down from hosting ever since. Tourney's ego is too massive to do that.
Replies:>>11810
>Was denied entry into King /v/ because mods were retarded
Just a head's up that some anons might try fucking with the wiki over the Chel/Shirley thing.
>>11810
I'm confused because I'm sure as shit sure he used lazyday last year and we figured it out it was him
>>12585
What happened this time? I didn't vote in the finals due to being busy then.
Replies:>>16044
Bumping for interest in the decission of starting a wiki for the /v/alhalla tourneys.
Question is, would you rather it is hosted on Fandom (like the /co/ one) or Miraheze?
Probably make some new pages for notable non E8 members such as hades, Godzilla, mothra, shrek, the miser bros, the iron giant, Scotsman, mojo Jojo, popeye, and maybe scaramouch and his history of never making the brackets
OK here it is, the King and Queen of /v/ wiki.
https://kingqueenv.fandom.com
I have only copypassted what was already there regarding the tourneys on the Saimoe wiki + very small changes and some essential templates. Most articles still remain out of date.
Anyway, if anybody wants to contribute, go nuts. And the more autistic, the better.
>>16065
I'll work on pages for some of the Ko/v/ contestants later since I know that better than Qo/v/. I'll start by updating existing pages that are really outdated like Kiryu and Battler.
>>16065
Great work anon, finally someone putting the time and effort into this.
Been working on pages for Ko/v/ characters and adding some tournament lore. Let me know if I missed anything. So far I've added:
>Battler always jobbing and his rivalry with 47
>BANS
>Wesker's R63 harem
>Mecha-Chris vs. Wesker
>Grimm's rape dungeon and the wrestling match
>Frank West's bueno compilation
>Ocelot rigging the tournaments
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
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>>16141
>Kirby Hogan.
>Metal Sonic allowing Orbot to kill him after the former jobbed to Pepsiman.
>>bueno compilation
>>16065
I've been working on the King /v/ 2020 page and also updated some of the character templates so that they display the icon and name.
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>>16141
Don't forget:
>Wright getting that unfortunate Jimmy Neutron post below him
>JACK OFF
>Zant
>Luigi makes it to the elite by doing absolutely nothing
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>>16141
>Red killing no one before being ejected during an emergency meeting during both the main tournament and the Murder Games.
>>16141
>Scout taking N's hair and his game
>Pretty much all Batter's matches
>AM and the Brazillian
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>>16277
>Should I link the game too while I'm at it?
Ye, and if you feel like it, link the previous version as well, I think older versions are all linked in the old booru.
Replies:>>16287
>>16277
Should there be pages for the Murder Games for both /co/ and /v/ wiki? I mean it's starting to become a thing that will be done annually if Zorak is still around to make more.
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>>16277
Here are some characters with thread presence but not qualified that I can think of
>Minato Kageaki (BALANCEDMAN)
>Cheshire (useful nigger)
>The Judge (useless nigger)
>Yami Yugi
>Koishi
>Zacharie (presented in 2021)
There's probably more however
Replies:>>16292
>>16279
Added both the game and the AMV
>>16280
Maybe, although they should probably be added to the /co/ wiki first since iirc the first one was after Tag Team 2021
>>16286
Can't say I really remember Yami Yugi or Zacharie, but I can add the others along with Torres and Philemon. I'll do those first then I'm gonna work on pages for the rest of the Elite Eight.
>>16287
>Yami Yugi
The whole rape saga, also almost qualified with votes but then he would also be ruled out.
>Zacharie
Was very prevalent as a writefag and a merchant member back in 2021
>>16292
I didn't writefag this year as Zacharie since I was writefagging as another character, and next year will as another one
>>16292
>The whole rape saga, also almost qualified with votes but then he would also be ruled out.
Right of course. I never saw Yu-Gi-Oh so I thought it was just Yugi Muto.
>Was very prevalent as a writefag and a merchant member back in 2021
Gotcha, I'll look back through the archives for reference
>>16294
Another detail is Yogi Bear mocking Yugi and Ranger Smith trying to get Yogi.
>>16294
There are some Zachrie writefag screencaps in the booru as well
im gonna write a page for milhouse btw
>>16299
Milhouse is Ejaculating Fish-tier. He doesn’t deserve shit.
>>16300
This
If you want to make his page, just make it in /co/ wiki
>>16299
out of all the inside jokes and memes we had this year alone, milhouse doesn't deserve his own page
besides he's not even a meme
>>16141
>Geralts dilemma and his relationship with AM
Replies:>>16383
Gotta get started on the Team Schizo page soon probably, any suggestions is welcomed
>>16380
Alright there I made the page with some information. I haven't used Fandom in ages and I'm an ESL so there bound to be some grammar errors in it, the formatting is confusing as shit I'd appreciate if someone can make me a member list template
When is Fang going to get her asterisk?
>>16516
She deserves it more than spinel
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Replies:>>16579
>Numnuts is unbanned
>complaining about Fang comes again
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>>16575
Free win?
Free what nigger?
Spinel had one of the most plainly rigged win to ever have been recorded. The tournament she was in had the largest amounts of votes by far in literally any tournament with a vote count of 1800+ which still hasn't been broken since then. /v/ only now is reach anywhere NEAR that amount, a board which is twice as active as /co/.
Replies:>>16581
>>16576
>Free what nigger?
free win, nigger. unless you forgot what happened in the final round? when NSA imploded the entire tournament for a gotcha? fuck off.
>>16573
I was complaining about Fang before Numnuts got unbanned.
>>16578
What would've happened then?
Oh lets just give the win to the next participate which was... Either the second most rigged character in the tournament history or the girl who lost and got the third place. Don't get me wrong, I would've loved Chel winning but Fang had everything going for her, she would've won either way.
Replies:>>16591
>>16560
The only real contention against Fang is that everything post R3 was too tainted and she would’ve lost under another circumstance. But if we’re to take her stomping Raven as legit then she would’ve won regardless.
>>16581
>Either the second most rigged character in the tournament history or the girl who lost and got the third place.
Accepting both these factors is inheently self-contradictory and you know it. If Shirley was rigged, her victory over Chel is illegitimate. If her victory is legitiimate, she wouldn't have been a bad winner. Pick a side.
>>16587
>she wouldn't have been a bad winner.
>>16587
Chel wasn't gonna beat Fang m8, it wouldn't matter. I do agree with giving Chel 2nd over Shirley however.
>>16587
I could name 30 character that would've been a better winner than shirley. Thank fucking god Fang won, for at least she is actually interesting memorable unlike shirley who even couragefags had a hard time to remember.
Replies:>>16595
>>16591
Sorry, I didn't know we had someone so butthurt about Fangs win this late.
>>16595
You know see the side effects of shoving up a Chel figure up your ass for nothing.
>>16595
>you're dumb for caring about this. i don't care (even though i cared enough to respond)
Replies:>>16758
>the butthurt about Fang winning is from the guy who shoved Chel up his ass
It’s beginning to make sense
>>16589
>Chel wasn't gonna beat Fang m8, it wouldn't matter.
You don't know that Fangfag.
Replies:>>16786
>>16750
I dunno about that 8 man
>Someone added an Asterisk to Spinel's page
>>16758
>reply to two different people
>accuse them of being a specific person you don’t like
>be wrong on that front too
I don’t care that people shit on my main, because she won and there’s nothing that their impotent seething can do. I just thought it would be funny if the guy who is butthurt still ended up being the guy who shoved Chel in his ass.
If any of you don't like all the ads and shit that Fandom has just look for and install this script called "Fandom - Remove Garbage"
>>16771
And thanks to them the page is now locked to everyone again.
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>King crowns are actually colored after their color scheme
Nice
Tournament Finals ranked from farthest to closest apart in voter difference
Qo/v/ 2020
Reimu vs. Tifa Lockhart: 854-535
Difference: 319 votes Total: 1389
Ko/v/ 2020
Dante vs. Raiden: 793-527
Difference: 266 votes Total: 1320
Ms/co/ 2019
Spinel vs. Raven: 976-790
Difference: 180 votes Total: 1760
Ko/v/ 2022
Garland vs. Frost: 662-492
Difference: 170 votes Total: 1154
Mr./co/ 2019
Kronk vs. Grim: 354-212
Difference: 142 votes Total: 566
Mr./co/ 2018
Johnny Bravo vs. Captain America: 234-106
Difference: 128 votes Total: 340
Ko/v/ 2021
Batter vs. Dr. Eggman: 759-659
Difference: 100 votes Total: 1418
Ms/co/ 2020
Dr. Mrs. The Monarch vs. Queen Tyr'ahnee: 450-352
Difference: 98 votes Total: 802
Ms./co/ 2022
Fang vs. Shirley: 520-428
Difference: 92 votes Total: 948
Ko/v/ 2019
Senator Armstrong vs. Doomguy: 465-384
Difference: 81 votes Total: 849
Qo/v/ 2019
Samus vs. Fio Germi: 255-184
Difference 71 votes Total: 439
Mr./co/ 2022
Zorak vs. Carl Brutananadilewski: 282-216
Difference: 66 votes Total: 498
Mr./co/ 2021
General Grievous vs. Hank Hill: 265-201
Difference: 64 votes Total 466
Mr./co/ 2020
Tom vs. Daffy Duck: 261-222
Difference: 39 votes Total: 483
Qo/v/ 2022
Midna vs. Hornet: 638-600
Difference: 38 votes Total: 1238
Qo/v/ 2021
Recette vs. Madotsuki: 575-556
Difference: 19 votes Total: 1131
Ms./co/ 2018
Jenny Wakeman vs. Starfire: 164-145
Difference: 19 votes Total: 309
Ms./co/ 2021
Betty Boop vs. Johanna: 335-325
Difference: 10 votes Total: 660
>>22364
Forgot to add
Average voter difference for finals per tournament (rounded)
Ms. /co/ = 80 votes
Mr. /co/ = 88 votes
Queen of /v/ = 112 votes
King of /v/ = 154 votes
Average voters in finals per tournament (rounded)
Ms. /co/ = 896
Mr. /co/ = 471
Queen of /v/ = 1049
King of /v/ = 1185
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>>22366
Hornet can come back even stronger, the worst thing that could happen outside of Silksong being a disappointment is complainfags ruining her chances through metagaming.
Replies:>>22378
>>22364
>Difference: 180 votes
>>>>Total: 1760
Some people still unironically try to defend Spinel in this day and age.
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>>22374
A runner-up has to win at some point. Fans of them will eventually get frustrated enough and metagaming is (thankfully) starting to be looked down upon especially after Ms. /co/ 2021.
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>>22376
Oh anon, 2nd place comeback will just be another form of metagaming. The tournaments are long since mutated into a game. The metagaming will never stop.
>>22378
Yeah, I don't know how to feel about that one. I know Touhou's is probably 4chan's favorite videogame and /v/'s Genndy tournament equivalent, but this was finals where Tifa just took out a character that beat another Touhou and metagaming spite should have shown a lot more like it does with Samurai Jack. I don't think Tifa could have possibly won though and I haven't really participated in /v/ tournaments so I don't know how different the culture is in them.
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>>22384
I also just realized it's the only tournament to suffer from a decrease in voters from 2021 to 2022, jack-off truly is the worst finale that could've happened kek
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>>22378
>Touhou are worse than SU too, closer to pony level autism
That's kinda too much, Touhou aren't banned anywhere else
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>>22388
I didn't say they were even, but they're somewhere in that gap. New franchise limitation rules were basically created because of them.
>>22364
Nice. Let me do my own calculation. Here's proportionally how close each match actually is:
1. Johnny Bravo vs. Captain America: 37.65%
2. Kronk vs. Grim: 25.1%
3. Reimu vs. Tifa Lockhart: 22.97%
4. Dante vs. Raiden: 20.15%
5. Samus vs. Fio Germi: 16.17%
6. Garland vs. Frost: 14.73%
7. General Grievous vs. Hank Hill: 13.73%
8. Zorak vs. Carl Brutananadilewski: 13.25%
9. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch vs. Queen Tyr'ahnee: 12.22%
10. Spinel vs. Raven: 10.23%
11. Fang vs. Shirley: 9.7%
12. Senator Armstrong vs. Doomguy: 9.5%
13. Tom vs. Daffy Duck: 8.1%
14. Batter vs. Dr. Eggman: 7.1%
14. Jenny Wakeman vs. Starfire: 6.1%
15. Midna vs. Hornet: 3.1%
16. Recette vs. Madotsuki: 1.7%
17. Betty Boop vs. Johanna: 1.5%
>>22390
That you mention, It’s weird that Homestuck’s aren’t that prevalent in Ms. and Mr. /co/. I know their time has long since passed but they can still very much be and in fact are active in some stealth threads around the site and especially in /aco/.
It’s not like it has no presence at all, we’ve seen homestuck in these tournaments since they first started but never caught onz
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>>22395
Homestuck's lack of presence should not come off as weird at all. The comic was already starting to show signs of fatigue ten years ago and most of the original fanbase has been driven away. The fact there’s an unposken rule about it being banned from /co/ only adds salt to the wound. If the tournaments had started around 2011-2014 its cast would have been a huge playing factor, but nowadays the best you can aim for is having them qualify, like how Sn0wman qualified for Ms. /co/ 2018.
Think we should have a page for statistical trivia like the win percentages and records. Call it "statistical records" or something.
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I know we're not counting the Tag Tournaments but didn't Tag Tournament 2020 end with a 1 vote difference, wouldn't that make it the closest? (forgot the number of votes in the 2019 one)
>>22718
Anyone who says Ms. /co/ is better than any of the other tourneys is a dumbass.
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>>22715
Yes, that is our closest finals result yet. Frankly I'm surprised Betty VS Johanna was as close as it was.
>>22713
I don't think closeness necessarily makes either one better or worse. It can be argued the other way, that male tournaments have more definitive winners cause people just vote for their favorite characters and have a better ideal what they want, vs. the waifu wars and compromises of the female tournaments.
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What's the biggest blowout in history? The biggest one I can recall is Chel beating Joy Kaplan by 93.7%. Did /v/ ever have a bigger one than that?
>>22748
The biggest one /v/ had seems to be Samus Aran vs. Megumi with Samus winning by 91.1%
Out of curiosity I decided to check which characters got the most OC throughout all the tournaments we have had so far. This is only a list summing up what’s in the different boorus, which might not account for duplicates/reposts and potentially missing OC so it doesn’t give the most precise numbers.
>Mr. /co/
Grievous: 98
Kronk: 57
Samurai Jack: 45
Courage: 39
Hank: 35
Marvin: 34
Grim: 32
Carl: 29
Skeletor: 28
Zorak: 27
>King /v/
Batter: 323
AM: 208
Grimm: 157
Eggman: 142
Spamton: 105
Battler: 100
Wesker: 96
Travis: 75
Wario: 55
Phoenix: 50
>Ms. /co/
Fang: 207
Tyr’ahnee: 70
Emmy: 58
Betty Boop: 53
Shirley: 50
Gwenpool: 43
ENA: 41
Chel: 40
Monarch: 35
Mrs. Brisby: 33
>Queen /v/
Recette: 121
Midna: 103
Hornet: 100
Madotsuki: 95
Alice: 69
Cirno: 59
Buddy: 56
GLaDOS: 52
Ashley: 47
Alipheese: 45
Idk if info like this should be documented on the wikis but I thought it was interesting. Also bumpan.
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>>32341
Interesting. But yeah booru's are far from 100% accurate, especially since there was gatekeeping on the /co/ ones and a lot of writefagging doesn't make it.
>>32341
>queen contenders at the top are the winners and runner-ups of the last two years respectively
>everyone else with the exception of Buddy has made top 5
>only king finalists with a noticeable amount of OC are Batter and Eggman
>half of the list hasn't made semifinals even once, some of them not even top 8, in spite of competing with the girl finalists in OC
The anon who said King is the tournament with the more silentfagging is completely right
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>>32346
Grimm and Battler's issues are more that they are trying to win over the audiences of waifufags than silent majority.
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>>32346
I don't think it's inherently wrong to vote for characters you feel represent /v/ more rather than voting for whatever is the most popular in the threads.
>>32347
Battler's problem is people still want to keep the jobber thing going even on /tnt/.
Grimm is just that he's a kind of a massive who for most.
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>>32350
>Battler's problem is people still want to keep the jobber thing going even on /tnt/.
<Good.>
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>>32353
I would love for her to be the Umineko winner. She will be my main this queen and I might do some stuff for /v/illains.
>>32354
We all know I'd be a way better winner than Battler. After all, I am the detective.
tbh I don't see her qualifying in Queen, although I'll still be campaigning for her. She's also my number 1 pick for /v/illains, and I'll be campaigning a lot for her there.
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>>32357
I hope I can realise most of the ideas I have for my guys.
I also decided that Dedede will go to the villain tourney undercover
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>>32366
Some of it will be match dependant, but I do have general ideas for how everyone will generally work.
>>32714
me just woke up, me read l where no l is
>>32714
He means me, of course.
>>32732
vampires are shit
>>32733
>implying Dracula wants to win when he actually just wants Grimm to lose
Since we're talking about Elite Eights and I didn't know where to put this, here. This year, it will be possible for every tournament besides the new ones, Ms. /aco/, and /co/-/v/ if that happens to have a character make Elite Eight for the third time.
Queen:
>Shantae
>Roll
>Fio
King:
>Wario
>Kazuma
>Heavy
Ms. /co/:
>Kim (2018, 2020)
>Starfire (2018, 2020)
Mr. /co/:
>Shaggy (2018, 2020)
>Samurai Jack (2018, 2021)
>Aku (2018, 2021)
>Jameson (2018, 2021)
>Hank (2019, 2021)
>Skeletor (2019, 2021)
Tag-Team:
It had no elite eight barring rule outside of the top 4 in 2019 and characters can come back with different teams the next year
>Wallace (2019, 2020) both with Gromit
>Gromit (2019, 2020) both with Wallace
>Bert (2019, 2021) both with Ernie
>Ernie (2019, 2021) both with Bert
>Alastor (2020 with Bill Cipher, 2021 with Chris McLean)
>Tyr'ahnee (2021 with Marvin, 2022 with Mirage)
>Izzy (2021 with Cherri Bomb, 2022 with Sticks)
Chel is the only character to make it 3 times in a single tournament. If we count all the tournaments
>Skeletor (Mr. /co/ 2019/2021, /co/-/v/ 2022 with Papyrus)
>Daffy (Tag-Team 2019 with Donald, Mr. /co/ 2020/2022)
>Samurai Jack (Mr. /co/ 2018/2021, Tag-Team 2019)
>Wallace (Tag-Team 2019/2020, Mr. /co/ 2020)
>Tyr'ahnee (Ms. /aco/ 2021, Ms. /co/ 2020/2022, Tag-Team 2021/2022, /co/-/v/ 2022 with the Shadow Queen)
>Shantae (Queen 2019/2021, Ms. /aco/ 2021)
>Glados (Queen 2019/2022, /co/-/v/ 2022 with One-One)
>Wario (King 2019/2021, /co/-/v/ 2022 with Eddy)
>Phoenix Wright (King 2019/2022, Co-op 2023 with Miles Edgeworth)
have all made it 3 or more times
And for fun, the characters to win a tournament and make an Elite Eight are
>Johnny Bravo who won Mr. /co/ 2018 and made Elite Eight with Samurai Jack in Tag-Team 2019
>Kronk who won Mr. /co/ 2019 and made Elite Eight with Yzma in Tag-Team 2019
>Zorak who won Mr. /co/ 2022 and made Elite Eight in /co/-/v/ 2022 with Ridley
>Max who won Tag-Team 2019 with Sam and made Elite Eight in Mr. /co/ 2022
>Tyr'ahnee who won Ms. /aco/ 2021
>Doomguy who won /co/-/v/ with Charlie and made Elite Eight in King 2019
So if your favorite character or team has to ever face Tyr'ahnee, you better start praying.
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>>33177
Update to characters to win a tournament and make Elite Eight
>Jenny who won Ms. /co/ 2018 and made Elite Eight in the Ms. /aco/ 2022 make-up
>Fang who won Ms. /co/ 2022 after making Elite Eight in Ms. /co/ 2020
>Midna who won Queen 2022 after making Elite Eight in Queen 2019
>>33177
Next King /v/ we'll be seeing Heavy and Scout returning with an extra member to the fold. It is guaranteed that they will enter Elite Eight next year and considering that every mercs will be eligible for it since 2019, they have the highest odds of winning.
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>>33179
I feel like Jack and Aku are guaranteed too for Mr. /co/. I don't who could make Ms. /co/ Elite Eight since it's a mess every year and I don't really pay attention to Queen much.
>>33180
There should be some sort of phenomena name for this.
>>33179
TF2fags getting real cocky right now...
>>33184
I'm actually hoping Jack does better than Aku. I don't care much for either, but Jack's campaign is usually better.
>>33177
>So if your favorite character or team has to ever face Tyr'ahnee, you better start praying.
Unfortunately she jobs. You're probably headed to the finals if you beat her though.
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>>33183
I mean how can't they?
They will have every heavy hitting merc eligible this year.
>>33177
Legitimately what the fuck is up with people having an hard boner for Tyr'ahnee? I fucking loved Duck Dodgers as a child and even when it re-aired and I loved it while growing up. While she isn't exactly a bad character by any means she gets fuck shat on by Duck Dodgers just by being there and I wholeheartedly consider Marvin to be superior and yet for some reason Tyr'hanee is one of the most dominant characters present in any tournament period.
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>>33188
>attractive
>badass
>good dynamic with Marvin and Daffy
I'm kind of biased because I love Looney Tunes, but I don't mimd Tyr'ahnee being a heavy hitter. I do agree Marvin is better and I think just about everyone would agree with you on that. I assume you are comparing them because of how it's kind of an unspoken rule in these events that there can only be one winner per franchise. I am surprised there still hasn't been a Looney Tunes winner in the main /co/ tournaments or a year where at least two make Elite Eight at the same time. It seemed like for awhile Daffy would be the one to take the win but Duck Match autism or his posters getting too cocky much like the actual character always gets him in the end. It actually does seem like Marvin will be the one since Wile is a jobber, Bugs suffers from the Mario/Sonic syndrome of being considered the too basic choice so usually being outdone by his supporting cast, and Tyr'ahnee is held back after winning Ms. /aco/. Kind of off-topic, but on the subject of Bugs, I'm kind of curious about what franchises other anons don't want the star character to win. Personally, I would have to go with Kirby and would rather have Dedede or Meta Knight win.
>>33187
You TF2Fags said similar fucking shit last year in preperations.
TF2 character predictions:
>scout comes back with another good campaign
>heavy is near to completely silent (is the only one to reach Elite 8)
>ENGINEER GAMING
>other mercs don't get nominated/enough votes, except for pyro who gets into queen again for some reason
>none of them win, obviously
>>33189
>I'm kind of curious about what franchises other anons don't want the star character to win.
I think if Castlevania were to have a winner, Dracula would be the best one since he makes a lot more appearances in the series than someone like Simon or Alucard, although usually I don't care a whole lot about a star character doing better than a different character from the same series. I usually really like the star characters that do well or win, like Grim, Dante, and Kiryu.
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>>33198
Lets be honest, they got fucking robbed in King /v/ 2022. The Soldier campaigner got fucking cucked out due to the new elite eight rule and spy didn't even have a chance to be nominated.
>>33201
Don't forget the Administrator, it was surprisingly a fan-favorite in Queen /v/ in the qualifiers and round 1. I wouldn't doubt her coming back this year with better results.
>>33208
Pretty sure that Spy had the same chances as literally any other character. People just forgot.
>>33201
I'm gonna try and see if I can get the pure sex witch from the TF2 gigaleak into bracket, anyone wanna assist me?
>>33212
>wasting a character slot for a non-character
just don't complain when other character do not qualify
>>33212
Scouts mom actually made it seed 73 in Queen /v/ and only was disqualified due to the three character rule. I wouldn't doubt that with a little campaigning the pure sex witch would go some rounds in... in sacrifice of one of the three TF2 character we already have.
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Would anybody mind adding some more meat to the bones of the /v/ wiki? It's kinda lacking atm
Queen's side in particular is quite barren, Midna's page doesn't even list her as the winner of 2022 yet!
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Should /aco/ get a page or mention on the /co/ or /v/ wiki's?
>>35135
/aco/ is obviously on /co/
/an/ on /v/ cause animals are vidya culture
Now that /v/illans has ended, I can finally ask the question.
Thoughts on moving all wikis into one big, definitive one? I feel like, with the tourneys starting to intermingle with eachother 'n stuff (cov) + spinoffs like /an/imal kingdom, it might be necessary soon.
Plus we could move it to something that isn't Fandom.com
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>>49779
I've seen some wikis move to wiki.gg to escape Fandom's bloat.
If you merge the tourney wikis and move all of them there, it could work out.
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>>49790
Miraheze exists, it's used by that one /dbs/ wiki and also TFR (wrestling autism)
Should we add stuff from Heroes/Villains to wikis?
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>>59804
iirc the unofficial rule is you can mention other contests in an individual character's page but that character needs to qualify in Ms./Mr. /co/ to get their own page.
>>59804
Sure. Tag-Team is on the /co/ wiki & some characters on the /v/ wiki are side-gig exclusive. The new wiki apparently will also include stuff for /aco/ and /an/ so leaving these out would just feel weird
>>59820
With a couple exceptionally memey cases like Incidental 87, Wilkins, and the Goldfish
I'm trying to create a contestant powerlevel chart (tourney performance-wise) going off the Ms. wiki and my God is it fucking shit. Half the pages haven't been updated since 2021 or even 2020, the 2022 page doesn't even have the bracket and some like Gwenpool's page have blatant formatting errors nobody bothered to fix in years. What a mess.
>>61921
I just have a few tiers, no big calculations, though maybe I could look into the winning percentages to rank them within the tiers but I'm not feeling autistic enough for that right now.
>>61918
There's a WIP performance table for the male contestants, at least.
>>61918
Hey, be glad your wiki even has anything on it. /v/'s barren as hell. I'd try to help update it but I have little idea how fandom works and I'm waiting for that merger we talked avout
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Do we really need to include the barred and bottom stuff on the wiki pages for the tourney's?
>>61918
Going to go and update every character over the coming weeks, it shouldn't take so long
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>>61937
I mean why not? If this were /v/ 2022 I'd disagree but after this Ms. /co/ I'd say it's worthy enough.
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>thread is now speculating GayAssScribbles is actually NSA
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There's both mediawiki.org and the previously mentioned miraheze.org, I know of wikis that use both so I'll be looking into which one is the most functional with the bracket format and post the link here in the following days.
Also should the name just be '4chan Tournaments Wiki'?
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>>62187
That would make sense.
I also remember finding another general tournament wiki a couple days ago that had a dangerous lot more on it. Like the Tumblr sexyman contests and several anime forum ones . 4chan was also on there but quite outdated tho
>>62188
I think youre talking about this one
https://saimoe.miraheze.org/wiki/Saimoe
yeah I saw it and none of mr /co/ after 2019 was updated, i also don't really like the format lol but I'll still see how each of the wiki 'engines' compare to one another
I don't see how a new wiki solves any issues. In terms of lack of updating it makes the issues worse by trying to over-expand
Hi all. May I request a change to the 'announcement'? I can see from the link that it's the botched version I accidentally gave out first. I understand if keeping it how it was when it happened for posterity is the intention, but the corrected version changes none of the numbers or answers, it just removed the editing mistakes so people in the future won't be confused. Whichever route you choose, I'll understand.
https://voca.ro/1gPDzPrPgJbx