/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>Dastardly Duo are Griffith's sidekicks
Kek

Who's the greatest LEGEND?

>>173799
Legend? Of Zelda

>>173797
All our HEROES are HERE

>>173804
Where's Battler?

>>173805
That FRAUD is no hero.

>>173815
he's the hero of the Jamaican Giants

>>173805
Faggler jobbed (again).

>>173797
Frankie still looking like a casual normie amongst badasses and freaks.

Since there was a CROSSBOARD DEATH BATTLE for this year, which was surprisingly evenly matched by the way, maybe it'd be fun to see how 2023's /co/ and /v/ Elite Eights would fare against each other in a fight. So who would win between
>Skeletor vs Grimm
>Zim vs Eggman
>Samurai Jack vs John Ward
>Optimus Prime vs Demi-fiend
>Hank Hill vs Scout
>Spongebob vs Solid Snake
>Dale Gribble vs Kazuma Kiryu
>Lord Farquaad vs Rayman

And the female side:
>Wuya vs Curly Brace
>Eris vs Amaterasu
>Toph vs Roll
>Raven vs Bayonetta
>Harley Quinn vs Malon
>Alex vs Fio Germi
>Clover vs Ashley Graham
>EVE vs Taokaka

>>173997
I think this depends where you poll it. Overall /v/ is the bigger voterbase by a long shot so you'd probably get preference to them among tourney participating crowds, that includes if you held it here. But in a general neutral everywhere sense:
>Skeletor, Grimm's not very popular
>Eggman
>Jack
>Prime, SMT is kind of niche
>Close one, could narrowly go either way, maybe Scout since I think TF2 is more dispersed than KoTH now
>Close one, maybe slightly Solid Snake
>Kiryu
>ehh, i really don't know. Maybe Farquaad cause more people generally know Shrek

>Curly, this one may be a headscratcher to those not into /co/ and /v/
>no idea lol, I guess more people would recognize Bully and Mandy?
>Roll
>Close one, maybe Raven since she's more of an internet goon icon by a fair margin
>Harley
>Fio
>Ashley
>EVE

>>173997
Farquaad vs Rayman could be fun but it depends on how we can scale Farquaad. He gains ghost abilities in Shrek 4D and subsequent lore from the comics reveals that he refuses to let his spirit go away, survives the event of Shrek 4D (where his ghost is seemingly destroyed), and slayed exactly 1,000 men in the "Battle of 1000 Deaths".

>>173997
>Skeletor
>Eggman (Irken Empire vs the Eggman Army could actually be pretty cool)
>Jack
>Optimus
>Scout
>Snake if it's to scale
>Kiryu
>?
-
>Wuya
>Ammy
>Can't Toph just magneto Roll since she's a robot?
>Raven
>Harley
>Fio
>Clover
>Taokaka

>>173997
>>173999
Oh we're talking about actual fights lmao.

Reposting these here just to get more attention on them.

2024 Winner Rankings
>Frankie
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVLJ1xnO
>Spider-Man
https://strawpoll.com/e2naXLjGzyB
>Madotsuki
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOV4B2Gn3
>Shadow
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE16PbBnW

Favorite and Least Favorite Champions
>Ms. /co/
https://strawpoll.com/61gD9GPWaZw
https://strawpoll.com/05ZdzV59ln6
https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vp2GwgA (no Spinel option)
>Mr. /co/
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYX3owBye
https://strawpoll.com/QrgewdlaRyp
>Queen
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJapPEKg3
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVLJYanO
>King
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71pWGGyr
https://strawpoll.com/3RnYX3a5Wye

>Bonus Question: Thoughts on Shadow in relation to the posts on /sthg/ and Discord?
https://strawpoll.com/QrgewdQ9Xyp

>>173798
*RETARDED sidekicks
ftfy

Who would win King of Theatre 1625?

>>173997
>>173999
Can we get ones for barred

>>173828
ok might as well do the females too
>Wuya vs Curly
Wuya
>Eris vs Ammy
with the apple then Eris but without it then Anmy
>Raven vs Bayo
comic book bullshut wins
>Harley vs Malon
I wanted to make a joke about Clownforce but no Harley just wins regularly since Malon has no feats
>Alex vs Fio
I don't know, probably Fio
>Clover vs Ashley
Ashley is a regular person so Clover
>EVE vs Tao
Taokaka since Blazblue gets absurd

>>176412
>GAYman
>Farquaad has no feats at all while Rayman does
I'm happy you at least can respect Rayman for something, André.

>Co-Op: February 14th
>/cov/: March 14th
>/tv/I.P.: June 6th
>Free-For-All: July 11th
Does this sound good?

>>177718
I kneel

>>177718
As the maker of the winner roster pics, I'm actually gonna be waiting until all of other the side tourneys are done before Ms. /co/ happens like I did with last year. Honestly, it was somewhat of a last-minute thing for me because of how varied the side winners were and I thought it'd be funny to make a DeviantArt-esque ensemble for them.
If I'm bored enough, I'll see what I can do about the previous years, though.

>>177727
*all of the other side tourneys
I'm tired as fuck.

It occurred to me that the team tourney winners in 2023 were all four of them female. A very unusual thing for /tnt/ as there are no female tourney winners elsewhere, and even high placing females are very rare.

>>178365
I think this sentiment was alleviated pretty quick when Skeletor won like a few days later.

>>178366
It’s specifically addressing Skeletor's victory, read it and look at the date.

>>178365
>The schizo alliance did a better job at inducting the “powerhouses” like random indie rpg shit no one knew of before they were campaigned
lol

>>178369
Only Batter had won by then, this was pre-Grimm.

>>178365
Someone mentioned before Frankie despite being pretty universal pick wasn’t so celebratory cause she just felt like a belated win. Basically she should have won 2019 or 2021. Basically Spinel’s fault and ensuing weirdness from that.
I’d also say Madotsuki was a belated win from 2021 and that was part of the reason there didn’t feel like much fanfare. Ideally the first collection of years is used for retiring obvious picks but meta creeps up very quickly.

>>178371
I disagree on Madotsuki not feeling celebratory, but then again I might be biased since she was a main.

>>178372
People were so desperate and worried about Madotsuki losing that it made her winning become a shit show

>>178374
Really? Because it didn't feel that way to me, at all.
What people were truly worried about was Hex Maniac winning the whole thing.

>>178374
Finals was pretty cordial. I just think the afterparty was low energy. I think it was mostly the tourney being dumpy up to finals (mostly involving what >>178375 mentioned) that made a lot of people lose enthusiasm. Mado not being a fresh face and all the stuff about Recette and 2021 making it seem like she should already have won anyways might've had some to do with it.

>>178375
Yeah (you) didn't but multiple others did and were extremely vocal about it

>>178377
nta but no they weren't lol. I don't remember it at least. If anything Frankie had that. Mado had a pretty chill run.

>>178371
frankie had a good celebration, she was so noteworthy BECAUSE her victory was belated.

>>178367
And he's with Scooby there, the future tag-team champions.

>>178388
What stood out to me is that voting for the Scooby Doo team based on liking the characters and the cartoons and movies was essentially what got them the win. The roleplaying was just a bonus.

>>178378
That's just false

>>178397
...according to my headcanon btw, forgot to mention that.

>>178404
Which is based completely in reality

>>178371
The thing that stands out to me is how King of /v/ specifically seems unable to get out of this tendency, so right now if a veteran heavy hitter were to win I would want it to feel truly celebratory and not just compensating for past history.

>>178408
That's the problem that we've fucked ourselves into. King 2025 is going to be a shitshow of people wanting to finally push an E8 winner, but at the same time it might make that tournament feel like ass if we inorganically push a character into winning just for the sake of "fixing" the tournament. I agree with the sentiment that King really should've had an E8 winner by now but I also have non-E8 mains and don't want to push them aside just for the sake of unfucking King.
We really entered the bad timeline in my opinion, the comparisons have been made before but it feels like what would've happened if Zim beat Skeletor in 2023.

>>178367
>>178388
I voted for them because I like them as a duo, not to vindicate that fag who whined about something that's barely happened since then anyway.

>>178411
...so because you like them as characters, then.
Also, the screencap had nothing to do with their victory.

>>178365
This dude stupid, /v/ STILL hasn't recovered from 2021

>>178414
This was written when Queen and King each only had four winners.

>>178397
I remember some comments about Mado being the best out of the E8 but people being "extremely vocal" and "desperate" about her losing and the her win being a shitshow because of it is made-up nonsense. You must've lived in an alt reality.

>>178409
It's odd too cause Queen is the opposite, having had three former E8's in six years, more than any other tourney.
>would've happened if Zim beat Skeletor in 2023.
I don't know, Zim was #1 seed and had always been a high potential character. The bigger problem there would've been the eventual NSA connection. I think it's more like Livesey winning. Had that happened i'm sure you would start seeing way more complaints beyond Jack poster about Mr. being tourney hype based and not retiring anyone big or conventional.

>>178418
Whilts I agree with everything else expressed in the other post, every time I see anons disparage Zim as if he were some weird campaign fluke run I get the impression I'm speaking with someone from a bizarro alt-timeline. It's one thing to say Zim was the underdog in a tourney context (which he absolutely was), but IZ itself is a /co/ staple and nobody would be surprised to see him next to the other champions had he won. That's not even going over how he always seeds high and was shy of making E8 in 2019.

If anything, it should go to show how consistent Mr. /co/ voters are about picking its finalists in general.

>>178421
I feel the heat Zim gets is solely due to the NSA connection; people were okay with him for precisely the reasons you stated before that controversy. The Wuya x Zim art didn’t help.

>>178418
>>178421
I agree it's not an exact comparison and Zim would be regarded much better than Shadow, but I feel like there would still be some sort of a shitshow.

>>178421
Zim's stigma is weird. Because he's a high-performing character sightly below elite but is never brought up in tournaments outside the stigma that NSA campaigned for him one year and is portrayed as a fluke
Consider that
>He qualified every year besides the weird 2018 year of limited nominations where he was not nominated
>His lowest seed ever was #12
>He has had a 1st or 2nd seed three times
>He made round 4 before his finals run
>Never lost round 1
>He has beaten many strong characters before
And it's clear it isn't just a fluke or NSA's sole work. He's close to elite but not quite there.
He's one matchup result against Bugs, one anon drunkingly nominated him in 2018, one statistic from being portrayed differently

>>178417
That's a fucking lie

Personally, my problem with Zim is just that I don't like him or his show.

>>178433
All the winners have some sort of shitshow attached to them. There are still people trying to push how Spider-Man was a poor winner despite the overwhelmingly positive reception.

>>178439
>There are still people trying to push how Spider-Man was a poor winner
There are? All I've seen against him was that one funposter on /v/ that kept calling /co/ normie game FAQ tier for voting spiderman.

>>178439
Anons would say shit about winners for the sake of drama or ragebait. Someone’s already saying Kronk only won because of the Pacha meme.

>>178437
Hexbro...

>>178444
Spider-FAG is a normalfag corporate mascot winner, absolutely TERRIBLE for /co/, unlike my HERO Wolverine.

>>178448
Bro, he dominated Marvel to the point where he had two character slots in MvC2.

>>178367
I fucking KNEEL to Shaggy!

i think the reason zim gets shit is because of the cuck art
even before the NSA connection was discovered people saw it as sore loser behavior

>>178457
Meanwhile it would’ve been supremely based if King of /v/ had art of JC cucking Shadow

>>178458
Eggkek…

>>178460
Is there a yabbapost edit of Eggman?

>>178457
Nah, people like when characters and fans are sore losers (see Skeletorfags and Grimmfags being some of the sorest losers in the history of tournaments then being rewarded with wins shortly after)

>>178472
Context? I don’t really remember that.

>>178472
This sounds so retarded I can almost believe it. Almost, get the fuck out of here with that historical revisionism.

>Nah, people like when characters and fans are sore losers
NSA doesn't count as "people" when it comes to dickriding Black Hat.

>>178472
>>178485
This and the weird comments about Mado's "desperate and worried" fans earlier lead me to believe this anon is having a laugh literally making shit up here.

>>178485
>>178487
This is exactly what to expect with /v/ tournaments since arch b4k is down.

You guys aren't going to believe this, but Mario has ENORMOUS tantrums when he loses. He was posting drawings of himself cucking Sam, he made a drawing of Jack Frost and pooped on it, and he pissed on a figurine of Waluigi when he got 3-ruled by him. It was so bad even Luigiposters had to do something and say "Mario, this isn't a good look".
I'd link the posts but sadly, the archive is down...

You won't BELIEVE what Bazz xisters did when xhe lost. It was so bad that it's actually what got the archive to get shut down by the feds, they were just too busy inciting political violence to take care of it sooner

>>178485
NTA but I think the guy is referencing how some Skeletorfags were antsy about losing the quarterfinals in 2021, and how Grimmfags had a tendency to keep posting and campaigning long after having lost in both 2021 and 2022.
No idea about the stuff about Mado which feels like actual revisionism.

When Jacket lost King /v/, it made a Jacketfag so angry he went and played Hotline Miami in real life (the Jacketfag's name was Luig Mangione)

>>178492
2022 at least had the excuse everybody was so bored with Garland being an obvious winner people were just trying to make something funny out of it, and what do you know Grimm rapes people

>>178494
Can't speak for everyone but as someone who was campaigning for other characters in the running who weren't Garland I only found it to be desperate and unfunny

>>178492
I don't remember the Skeletor the stuff. But I guess I don't remember much in general about Mr. 2021 beyond some Grievous vs. Hank stuff. Judging from how no one until now brought this up, whatever is was is probably hardly enough to qualify Skeletor fans as one of the "sorest losers in the history of tournaments."

Alex won. I'm not saying which Alex won though

>>178492
People were worried about Miku beating Madotsuki

>>178495
I think sticing around a bunch after you lost is bad form in general, but KoV like usual kind of has unique standards. These were the years the fucking Yugi rape dungeon shit was a big thing after all.

>>178498
That has more to do with Miku being considered a shit E8, and it hardly got attention compared to her Hex match (someone also considered a shit E8). In any case saying it made Mado winning a shitshow is nonsense. There were major problems with last Queen but Madofag behavior was not one of them.

>>178500
Some madofags were at fault not all but there was also a shitload of falsefagging

>>178502
Hey can you link the fanfic you are getting this from? It sounds really entertaining.

>>178499
>I think sticing around a bunch after you lost is bad form in general
Depends. I think if it's unrelated to the matches like Grimm raping was it's fine, but I thought FNAF characters being shoved into the Sam rape GETposting (when it was already a blatant rehash of prior years) after they all jobbed Round 1 was forced as hell desu

>>178505
>depends
It's always forced as hell.

>>178507
>as clearly many anons had fun with it
So just like with the Freddy getting shoved into Sam posting? Your argument doesn't make any sense. Inserting losers into the threads will always be perceived as "forced" because it distracts from the characters that are still in. I would even argue that Grimm Yugi poopoo rape was even worse by virtue of not having anything do with a match.

>>178485
Even the fucking wiki for years has mentioned Skeletorfags’ infamous meltdown after losing to Marvin since they felt entitled to a win and basically they spited him out to 4th because of it
All this is actually documented and people getting pissy again is kinda showing the point

>>178508
to be fair everyone got shoved into Sam posting

>>178510
Take into account that 2023 particularly brought in a lot of /v/ posters, including Skeletor's main campaigner that year being from there, so the memoryholing can be somewhat explained in this instance.

>>178511
Are we going to have year 3 of Samposting or is it finally over

>>178508
Well like I said KoV has a different standard where poopoo rape Yugi stuff is okay because basically the tournament is off the rails retarded so it’s expected.

>>178510
Is it really infamous if no one remembers it or brings it up until now.

>>178516
That's more like it, but I dislike when people try to apply double standards like nine posts above.

>>178515
The only forced thing in Sam posting is the dragon bitch with big tits

>>178523
What big tittied dragon?

>>178515
I can see Samposting eventually losing steam and people moving on to a different meme.

>>178525
If you don't know you're already too far gone

>>178517
The only things from any tournament (that wasn't the year prior) that ever gets brought up regularly is
>Who won
>If a character was rigged
That's the entire legacy, doesn't mean things aren't infamous if they aren't brought up at every moment

If you bring up something that happened and negatively paints a well loved character in a negative light you're seen as crazy

>>178533
And this is why Skeletor is controversial. Can’t speak against him or you’re seen as a nutjob.

>>178535
Or Grimmcord

>bring up some shit years ago about a character never talked about
>character is now "controversial"

>>178536
Grimmcord still gets brought up plenty of times. Frankie and the fatfags on the other hand…

>>178537
Just because it isn’t talked about often doesn’t mean it isn’t infamous

>>177367
>/tv/I.P.
>Free-For-All
Come to think of it, what's the status of these two?

>>178539
Do you know what infamous means.

>>178549
Madosissies we're irrelevant to the conversation

>>178549
I think you'll first need to sort this between meta discussion and RP/OC.
Something like Recette has got both, Wuya and Shadow are merely discussed because of their respective controversies, Zorak and Reimu are way more about RP but still get brought up in conversation, and Samus just gets nothing.

>>178552
It's meant to be a combo. Basically just overall presence after winning.

>>178540
Ideal TV elite 8? For me, it's
>Tony Soprano
>George Costanza
>Officer K
>Gandalf
>Anybody from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, preferably King Arthur or the Black Knight
>Dr House
>Bane
>Albert from Birdcage (Unconventional, but that movie is funny as fuck and Nathan Lane is a legend for managing to steal the spotlight from Robin Williams)

>>178557
>Bane
>CIA
>Patrick Bateman
>Tony Soprano
>George Costanza
>Officer K
>Jean-Luc Picard
>Lt. Columbo

>>178549
now we need a tier list on the characters relevancy on the board

>>178563
I was actually do one tiering number of mentions each winner has on the board but then of course the /v/ archive went down...

>>178565
Is he going to get anal too?

>>178565
People are still cautious around Netflix cartoon adaptations

I think Raymond from everybody loves Raymond will win

>>178540
What's the most likely Free-For-All E8? It's a tough question since ANYONE, maybe even anyTHING, is allowed. But I'm gonna say:
>Goku
>Bane
>A planet
>A president
>Patrick Bateman
>Yotsuba
>Adolf Hitler
>A sports team

>>178570
Winning will win

>>178549
I'd actually bump Recette down a tier since although she gets brought up and memed a lot she didn't really impact the Queen of /v/ meta any, certainly not in the same way that Batter or Spinel impacted their tournaments
Otherwise accurate though personally I'd bump Frankie up a slot since she gets mentioned a fair amount and is relevant meta-wise, and maybe swap Dante and Armstrong

>>178572
Dante's iffy cause I don't really see him brought up much outside of being paired with Reimu (and Reimu gets the majority of attention there) and just being called a good winner.

>>178570
Think more chaotic.
>/trash/
>nintendo
>India
>the human penis
>(you)
>an abstract concept
>the tournament itself
>Yotsuba

>>178570
What makes you think Goku will get far in this if even Heroes of /a/ didn't want him?

>>178570
If a president is getting in I'm gunning for Teddy Roosevelt. Even the political cartoons that tried to make fun of him just made him look awesome, they'd just make him a hulking smiley man with guns and giant collections of animal pelts.

>>178549
Who’s the most tourney/meta relevant NON-winner?

>>178577
Eggman of course, followed by
>Battler
>Hex Maniac (who can easily become number one if she causes as much shit in QoV 2026 as she did last year)
>Amaterasu.
/co/'s only real consistently (in)famous character that actually effects shit is the you-know-who ugly green goblin with the schizo spammer rigger.

>>178577
raven and toph

>>178580
>Hex Maniac
She's about to become the Donald Trump of Queen. Everyone will do everything to keep her from winning but that same spite will boost her popularity.

>>178580
>>178583
Is /v/ really dumb enough to spite vote a non character into queen or is /tnt/ being retarded again?

>>178580
>>178583
If someone actually does nominate her using the Gen 3 sprite like they talked about, Hex is fucked.

>>178584
Who knows what /v/ thinks? They got Bazz to the 16th seed in Queen and the Maya match in round 1 wasn't a blowout.

>>178584
>Is /v/ really dumb enough to spite vote a non character into queen
Yes.

>>178587
If the Hex drawfag keeps going on tard rants, there’s a chance not even /v/ would entertain keeping Hex around.

>>178588
He still beat Baiken and Palutena for 3rd while sperging out so I don't know.

Bazz is strong

>>178580
I think Battler's infamy has been overstated when he has really fallen off since.

>>178589
I think it was off character rants, ironically enough, that a lot of people got turned off him. Even more ironic, he was finally making up for last time with his Shadow campaigning.

>>178591
He's still had a huge meme presence and notoriety over the years though. But his peak was probably hit with winning king of loser's and making the Eggman/Grimm finale kind of a shitshow over the crown steal.

Isn't it funny how Alex and Geralt did nothing last year even though people were worried about them?

>>178581
Raven was basically just a silent majority pick with no rep. beyond "girl who was screwed by Spinel." Then in 2023 she got a modest amount of campaigning. Toph I agree has been a continual spectacle though, for both good and bad things lol.

>>178594
Nobody was "worried" about YIIK man except for his resident astroturfer.

>>178594
Geralt had drawfag shit but it's pretty obvious he was carried by randomized seeding in the first two rounds.

>>178594
/tnt/ and particularly the /v/ part has a tendency to overestimate. Remember all the AM and Bridget dooming too?

>>178594
Alex lost his niggerbuff, it's like a Green Lantern losing their ring. He was powerless.

Who's the most hilariously overestimated and underestimated character ever?

>>178600
>overestimated
Hornet last year.
>underestimated
Probably any completely unpredicted and “underdog” winner, so Recette, Batter, Zorak, and Shadow. If we wanna include questionable ms. /co/ bullshit then Johanna, Shirley, and Wuya.

>>178600
>overestimated
Geralt. Anons thought he was going to make a genuine E8 run after his /tnt/ E8s, the meme hype underdog momentum from the Eggman match last year, and he was in a lot of the pre-tourney hype discussions and OC. The Witcher filler was nominated for the sole purpose of getting Geralt to a higher seed. Losing to Tom Nook in round 1 proved he was a fluke who benefitted from randomized brackets.
>underestimated
Shadow. Let's face it.

>>178598
I mean this place dedicated a good deal of 2024 solely to doomposting about the former (not merely predicting) and I get the feeling a lot want to swept that under the rug considering the current meta surrounding King.

>>178602
While Geralt was indeed a hilarious overestimation, I recall a lot of posting about Hornet being THE one to break the runner up bind, and generally just being the strongest runner up around. Then she loses R1 to a low carder.

>>178604
Hornet's definitely up there, but at the same time there were plenty of anons saying that it was too soon for her to win thanks to Silksong being delayed after Queen 2022 happened, so it's hard for me to say that she was the most likely to break the runner-up curse. ATHF Carl is another example of a character anons thought was for sure going to win in 2024.

https://arch.b4k.dev/
Archive's all good

>>178606
Damn it, just when I was going to suggest that Hexfag would use the archives being down as an advantage and play dumb by claiming his spergouts never happened.

>>178609
There were definitely some people hyping geralt in the qualifiers at least

>>178609
>loser that profited off of randomized brackets
The randomized bracket criticism was made a couple of times before King of /v/ 2024 and literally anyone can look at his tournament history and deduce that he got to round 3 in one year by having a lucky bracket.

>>178611
The point is made why repeat it?

>>178609
There was definitely Geralt hype (like the anon nominating 30 fucking Witcher characters to raise his chances). But the jobber trashing afterwards may be exaggerated for the sake of an anon's critical point against randomized brackets.

>>178613
To rub it in on the Geraltfags that were specifically cocky about his chances? I dunno, seems that way. It's like the fag who always brings up Livesey being a randomized fluke even after he didn't qualify in 2024.

>>178615
>To rub it in on the Geraltfags that were specifically cocky about his chances?
All one of them?

>>178593
I still personally think Battler peaked in 2022. He had a legitimately great (and GAME-RELATED) campaign and was able to build some real hype from beating Spamton. I think that loss to Christopher Robin really fucked things up for him, because it seems like his real supporters gave up and 2023 turned him into a massive joke pick.

>>178618
/vn/ will carry Battler in 2025, trust the plan

>>178575
because it's not going to be in /tnt/ which hates him

>>178622
the solution is to only complain about characters who have never made elite 8

>>178595
>Raven was basically just a silent majority pick
that's what makes her relevant. the silent majority is the strongest force in all of tournamentdom. pages upon pages of meta discussion can be invalidated in an instant because people who never read any of it decided to vote a different way. i would've said FARTS as a whole for being the face of the silent majority from 2021-2023 and arguably last year, but frankie won and azula and shego turned out to be overhyped shitters.

>>178624
The intended criteria is presence. Raven had barely done anything or been of note beyond having been in this alliance. Take Batter who is also an alliance character but has had HUGE individual presence and meta bickering over him.

>>178586
Bazz being the only 2024 character to qualify for Queen and King, and being a top 20 seed to boot is still funny to me.

>>178628
this joke is getting stale now

>>178629
Welcome to 95% of tournament humor.

>>178572
What are you smoking? Recette changed everything. From 2021 onward, it became the underdog game thanks to her. And Batter won after she paved the way, up to that point, there was no other example of some unknown low seeder defying the odds thanks to OC.

>>178603
Yeah

>>178624
FARTS's silent reputation is only partially accurate; Toph is almost always a vocal pick, Raven and Azula are a mixed bag as to whether they're silent or get support, Shego is almost always a silent pick, and Frankie was THE silent one until she suddenly wasn't and immediately won thereafter

>>178632
Grievous was sort of campaigner underdog lite. But I agree Recette fully set the stage, and it's arguable Batter, who is immensely influential himself, wouldn't have won had she not.

>>178557
>Charlie Kelly
>Audrey 2
>Bane
>Eric Andre
>Watto
>Movie Robotnik
>Gollumn
>Adam Conover

What E8 placers would work best as a Poker Night cast?

>>178637
max and heavy

>>178637
Max and Heavy would be cheating.
>Carl
>Hank
>Duke
>Scout
AM deals.

>>178631
Well sure, if we're counting implicit presence and influence, then all the inaugurals would be at the top tier too for setting the standard, as well as any constistent powerhouse regardless of activity like Kiryu, Fio, Chel ect. But that's not really what's considered in the original chart.

>>178641
Joel Hodgson is a puppet?

>>178648
how do you account for characters which share names with other characters or basic things?

>>178646
Actually it could be great; imagine he gets campaigning by anons doing Gollum impression vocaroos, it'd be funny

>>178648
Kek, how did you even estimate the numbers of characters with generic names or named after mundane things like Shadow, Fang, Tom and Jack? Right off the bat for example trying to search "garland" on only gives around 12700 results.

>>178649
>>178651
Reasonable guestimate. Fang might be a bit high but otherwise I take the proportion of mentions related to that character per page on top of certain markers like "Garland."

>>178648
Madotsuki needs to be bumped one tier, more people refer to her as just "Mado"

>>178653
I combined both. Mado is at like 9,500.

>>178654
Combining both gives 10,615

>>178655
Well, so it does...

>>178648
GODte and Spider-CHAD
THE LORDS OF /v/ AND /co/

>>178648
Dante really is definitively the most dimes champ all around.

Royal Rumble today, make your predictions.

>>178659
/cov/ team name: THE STRONGEST

>>178664
>Jey Uso won
King /v/-esque winne

>>178673
Drew was the best of the realistic choices. if they were gonna go with a subversion they should've went with Logan. Jey just sucks lol.

>>178614
I think he used Geralt for the randomized argument because he happened to be the most extreme case of it, as seen with him being the 126th seed beating the 128th and 123rd seeds in a row until Eggman. I can't think of anyone else who could fit that mold, and even Livesey himself is debatable because in his debut year he jobbed to a 100th seed in round 3 and took out a much higher seed right away the year after.

>>178737
It's scarcely been pointed out but Ellis last year had a very funny randomization run. First time qualifying and made R3. In the first two rounds he got Banjo followed by Steve (the two biggest KoV joke jobbers) then faced Denton and got annihilated.

>>178738
kek, I remember that. Then again, Banjo and Steve both had noticeably higher seeds than Ellis so really it was him beating two designated jobbers in a row (and Steve lucked out by facing a completely nerfed Nyarly in round 1) rather than being a really vocal low seed going up against other low seeds that were relatively silent.

>>178568
>>178558
>>178557
Wouldn't it be funny if Tony Soprano won, and they told us by doi

>>178857
Fat fuck looks more like Champa

>>178857
This for /an/?

If two things changed 98% of all tourney bickering and negativity would never have happened.
>Raven beats Spinel in 2019
>Mado beats Recette in 2021
All meta butthurt today is basically entirely traceable to these two happenings.

>>179053
In a way, Mr. Incredible winning in 2020 might've changed things too.

>>179055
The only thing that would've changed is the one spamfag years later being even more angry.

>>179056
And the fact that the rest of the Mr. /co/ winners will be muscle men to go with Johnny, Skeletor's win will remain though.