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Okay, which Elite Eight member in either tournament would be the most disappointing to actually win at this point?

Hard mode: no Jack Frost in King of /v/.

>>80591
Okay, which Elite Eight member in either tournament would be the most hype to actually win at this point?

Hard mode: no Eggman in King of /v/.

>>80591
AM

>>80590
I miss when the threads were comfy with Grimm and Curly OC’s.

>>80593
AM

>>80591
Eggman

>>80593
Jack Frost

>>80600
I feel bad for the one Roll campaigner doing the sprite comics having to put up with the other half of his character's campaign being Augie autism and "Roll is on heat!"
I think just for the one genuine Roll campaigner I'd say that Fio or Ashley Graham would've been more disappointing that year (fio because boring silentfag pick, ashley isn't bad but she was only there because NSA/OFA rigged out muffet)

>>80600
Vergil actually had a campaign in 2020.

>>80602
I don't care about either Ashley or Roll but I just picked Roll because I hate lolifags. I respect the sprite artist though, hopefully they could come through for other MM characters.
>>80604
It's not based on how they performed in a specific year, just in general picked from each year's E8.

I hate NSA so goddamn much.

We should have more people like NSA running these, since they make for a spectacular shitshow.

>>80591
>Queen
Any of the terminally silent picks like Shantae, 2B, and Tifa
>King
Morshu
>>80593
>Queen
Ammy, Mado, and Hornet
>King
Phoenix, Travis, Raiden, and Wario

>>80614
>All this hype around former finalists in Queen
You guys think Queen might be the tournament to finally break the curse?

>>80616
I can see it being either Queen or Mr. /co/ unless Mr. suddenly becomes really meta. Both have a couple former finalists with a lot of hype around their returns. King could maybe do it with Raiden or Eggman (or Doomguy if he doesn't get really shit bracket luck), and Ms. /co/ is Ms. /co/.

>>80624
>And next to no one os making content for him. He is literally a but of a joke now without proper support.
It's a shame because that one writefag proved he could be a lot of fun and have a great campaign, but he's always sidelined. I'd do stuff for him if I didn't have other mains to focus on.

>>80626
>>80628
There was kind of a push with the whole Alien Hominoid Agent and Wesker but that ARC just kinda fizzled out after Co-op.

>>80639
Pretty sure he did after the round ended.

>>80639
Yeah, I remember a post where he said that the percentages were much more slanted in favor of Jack.

>>80640
>>80641
Even if we didn't know about the OFA/NSA connection for what conceivable reason would he feel the need to comment on that when he has never done so.

>>80639
Rigged btw

I noticed that Grimm OP by Jager jumped in views a lot in a few days, along with some Russian comments. Anything noteworthy happened over on the Russian side of the internet? I do know BS has surprisingly large fanbase over there.
King of /v/ 2023 - Grimm OP

>>80648
The only thing I can suspect is this post
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141076243/#141091756
maybe it traveled downstream into a russian imageboard or something

>>80647
>2.9 thousand views
Russian King incoming.

>>80647
he was rigged by Russians

>>80647
Maybe it's a good thing Grimm won now and not later.

>>80639
I was the person who wrote that article and transferred it over. That said, I did want to be thorough, so here's the claims of Garland's ratio over AM. He never gave exact numbers, but the second indicates it was over 3/4 in favor of Garland if he was not bluffing / lying.

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621505979/#q621506783
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/621505979/#q621507896

>>80654
>if he was not bluffing / lying
>implying

>>80660
Much as I like AM, I few he's not THAT strong with the huge share of more silent voters. Points 3 and 4 are basically the same, and I'd call the second a detriment if anything.

Think about it this way. He made it into Elite Eight with some similar overlap to Batter and Grimm, and yet he lost. Yes, Garland was a special circumstance, but unless NSA actually heavily faked the numbers AM fell pretty hard against Garland and even JC. The latter is the most concerning on his odds of actually winning.

>>80661
Please consider that the entire point behind NSA/OFA's smear campaign was to get people to vote againts AM. It probably didn't affect that many voters, but we have to take it into account.

>>80660
Why is AM so popular?

>>80663
Easy to make OC, not as much as John and Garcia but still. The catalyst for the current schizo alliance, when he was added to the background of Batter and Grimm alliance spiraled into it's current form. Also great meme potential.

>>80660
It's either spitevoting AM in the early rounds or he wins

>>80662
Very distinctive, disturbing, and captivating character. Giant crazy malevolent slab ai that tortures people with unimaginable hatred and schizo bravado.

>>80660
After seeing the results of last year I'm just giving up until the schizos win.

You guys forget AM only narrowly beat Vergil, a silentfag pick. He's not some all unstoppable character and some shitty bracket luck could easily be the end of him.

>>80660
It's over

>>80675
I'd say he's more popular on /v/ than /lit/.

>>80675
>IHNMAIS
>easy puzzles
most of them are bullshit because ellison HATED video games

>>80660
AM won already

What if Wario and AM face Agent 47 and Battler next to each other next King? What if Wario beats Agent 47, but AM loses to Battler?

>>80682
I love Ellison even more now

>AMfags getting insanely cocky
Will job to Heavy round one.

>>80672
He also couldn't beat JC for the third place match

I feel people are underselling why Garland and Grimm both appealed to people so much. Both had a lot of "literally me" energy behind them that I feel isn't as prevalent in a more abstract entity like AM.

>>80688
>Battler
>winning
lol
lmao

>>80692
Precisely. AM is not "literally me" like how Garland and Grimm are. He is way harder to grasp.

>>80696
Yes

>>80691
>>80662

>>80695
To be fair, AM is in a way "literally me," like he says when he is defeated in the game

>>80696
Jack isn't a schizo, neither is Batter from what I heard, and AM certainly isn't

>>80704
Didn't everyone shit on that? I feel most people against AM weren't being swayed by that smear campaign.

>>80707
They're part of the alliance, that's all that matters.

>>80707
They are still in the alliance.

>>80708
Lurkers still exist.

>>80707
Batter is weird because of the abstract nature of OFF. He's more of a force of nature in a sense, and you could interpret his overall goals in a variety of ways.

>>80709
>>80710
Well fuck the alliance. AM didn't need it in 2022, and he won't need it this year.

>>80707
good joke

>>80713
People said the same about Grimm and look what happened.

>>80715
It mainly came back in the finals because of Grimm's prior matches and facing Eggman of all characters as his final opponent. Grimm did have schizo support, but it's because the title actually fits.

>>80715
AM didn't have any alliance posting in 2022 from what I saw. He can sustain himself and doesn't need any alliance or friendship OC.

>>80713
Someone will bring it up if he gets into E8 again

>>80705
He still is in a way, of course; his character is built upon Cartesian conceptions and Freudian psychology. But it's harder for your average anon to resonate with a malignant, inhuman being that bears no discernible positive qualities than a POV protagonist character with admirable traits. It's important to point out AM is a villain, and that translates into "heel" when it comes to the King of /v/. If /v/ were more like Mr. /co/, he would hold an actual advantage.

>>80713
Grimm literally didn't give a shit about the alliance until the very final round where it switched to "le heckin' power of schizo friendship!"
If you don't think it'll happen to AM as well then fuck you

>>80722
Good. We need you to know we don't need another le epic schizo alliance character to win for the 12th time in a row. Have another kind of character to win for once.

>>80722
Yes
And we're also aware every other campaigner can read these posts and don't want yet another circlejerk winner if they want their picks to even have a chance

>>80723
Too bad, you will get more meta.

>>80724
You don’t know what you are talking about. AM has nothing to do with Grimm or Batter outside of fan overlap.

>>80725
This is strategic voting.

>>80720
There's no way the same thing can happen to AM. If fucking AM of all characters gets the "power of friendship" alliance then I don't know at this point.

>>80723
You want a gacha character to win? Haven't been to /v/ in a while but it seems like those are the only kinds of threads that constantly gets bump limit nowadays.

>>80729
>Jacket
>Clarke
Do you want another schizo win, or are just holding a double standard?

>>80729
Kino picks. Too bad they will job to another schizo doing le epic power of friendship crossover shit in the finale.

>>80727
>AM has nothing to do with Grimm or Batter outside of fan overlap.
And that's exactly fucking it, it's already stinking like general rot and we want some fucking variety for the enormous medium of vidya, not what a certain in-group prefers of some ultra-niche psychopaths they can make epic anime references of

>>80732
Jacket and Clarke are in the schizo alliance too. What kind of argument even is this?

>>80729
Only ones I'm more iffy on are Luigi if he remains mostly quiet and Peppino simply because I'd like at least slightly older blood in our slate of winners. Still, all of these picks are good.

>>80723
Jack's last thread on /v/ had a ton of people talking about playing his game.

AM using the power of friendship sounds so absurd and funny that it actually makes me want to vote for him if that happened.

>>80738
Hotline Miami is so fucking good
Funnily enough I think in an interview Goichi Suda said Hotline Miami is Travis Touchdown's favorite video game

>>80740
Yeah, he even meets jacket in NMH:TSA

>>80741
Whoa really? Cool. TSA was the only NMH game I couldn't stomach playing, it was so fucking bad.

>>80740
>Funnily enough I think in an interview Goichi Suda said Hotline Miami is Travis Touchdown's favorite video game
Kino

>>80681
/lit/ is great cause it's almost entirely literary. Probably something most don't realize about the board when speculating about tournaments in it.

When was co-op again?

>>80744
To be fair, when the fuck do AMfags themselves give a fuck about the media itself? There's very little to say about the actual game, people just like the angry computer

>>80749
>There's very little to say about the actual game, people just like the angry computer
AM is the highlight of the game for a reason, his voice is amazing and his dialogue is fun.

>>80749
AM *is* the game. And this is a character tournament, after all.

>>80750
And the actual game is poopy, point and click adventures are garbage

>>80749
Same thing could be said of the last 3 kings we had.

>>80752
That's just a personal preference.

>>80748
Sometime soon after Tag Team, so February or March most likely

>>80723
Final Fantasy is one of the most popular franchises of all time and /v/ loves Black Souls. OFF has been argued to be more tumblrcore, but is still important to indie history. None of the winners have been bad, but I want a different genre next year. AM would be a genre departure and has great OC, but a point and click is far from my first pick. I'll probably vote for him in a few rounds and I won't spitevote him.

>>80762
That's why we're telling people about it
Everybody banding up for the common good to take down the biggest circlejerk threat so every other character has a chance is absolutely a valid tactic
Nobody gave a fuck about Taokaka, she was just an agreeable enough character to use to take down Cirno, who's largely the most hated contestant every year

>>80766
>Nobody gave a fuck about Taokaka
Yeah, sure bud.

>>80768
Bro didn't she get 8th place? Even Ashley from Resident evil who was both quiet as fuck AND had a bunch of placement controversy behind her did better then Tao

>>80766
>Nobody gave a fuck about Taokaka
Speak for yourself, I touched myself to her many times AND it was a good fighting game E8 for once

What if we got a schizo finale or a schizo vs. japanese action game finale?

>>80762
Doing that only results in more metafaggotry

>>80772
What if we don't?

>>80772
No

>>80772
Japanese action game at the very least hasn't been jerked off three years in a row now going into fourth, I'd rather vote for that

>>80779
We have four Japanese action game winners.

If you guys genre variety so bad, then give your top picks for them
>Shooters
>Platformers
>Fighting games
>RPGs

>>80781
I agree Doomguy should win. Too bad he's just a jobber now.

>>80737
Luigi could have a fun campaign but I imagine he'll be overshadowed next year by Mario and Wario. Hell even Waluigi had some dedicated support last year from that one guy campaigning for Fox.

Jack Frost will win this year.

>>80786
Total Jack Frost death

>>80786
who

>>80779
They have been. First two winners were japanese action game characters and the fourth was a japanese action game rpg schizo.

>>80781
>western game
>winning

>>80785
Mario has been an up-and-coming darling that went from being hated and 3-ruled to being a top 10 seed and beloved entrant who lost to an similarly up-and-coming darling.
Wario has had a lot of hype in pretty much every tournament he's been in and 2024 will be the first ever tournament he'll be in without Eggman to take away fat man energy.
Comparatively, Luigi doesn't really have much going for him at all

>>80795
Alex genuinely fucking sucks and him getting some digits isn't going to change Yiik from being fucking shit

>>80782
>Shooters
Scout
>Platformers
Mario and Wario
>Fighting games
Johnny Cage
>RPGs
Kefka

>>80796
Luigi making it once by doing effectively nothing was funny, especially off the previous round between Christopher Robin and Battler. It's something that can only really be forgiven once, however, and he still got knocked with 8th place.

>>80795
He should make it to elite 8 instead

>>80782
>Platformers
>Stealth
>Flight
>Immersive Sim

>>80782
>Shooters
Goku
>Platformers
Goku
>Fighting games
Goku
>RPGs
Goku

I am kind of glad the mandatory H-game win went to Grimm above other options. Not saying that another is off the table, but he's a pretty strong won to win on several fronts.

>>80810
Garrett could be a good imsim pick.

I wouldn't mind trying to push either Nook or Isabelle in a future year. I hesitated on the latter this year because I might have overestimated Alice.

>>80810
Chell is a puzzle pick, if anything. Yume Nikki isn't a horror game

>>80813
Furry characters are hard to campaign for when they're the only ones you be no means are allowed to lewd. Not saying they need to be lweded, but everybody else can get away with it and coom votes are still votes

>>80766
>Nobody gave a fuck about Taokaka
...in my headcanon.

>>80813
>Isabelle managed to get the silent characters to get off their asses and actually campaign
My HERO...

>>80812
>>80818
Oh how I wish they both could qualify. They get my votes easily if that happened.
>>80814
Eh, Mado's game still scares me more than most games ever made.

>>80823
Strelok qualified way back in either 2021 or 2020 I think. Not sure.

>>80822
New /v/ - /co/ team: Isabelle and Shazam, the two biggest enemies of the Silent Majority

>>80832
i just don't see the point of not being in it to win. her supporters were agreeable at least.

>>80832
No Agent 47 equivalent of a rivalry, doesn't count.

My main issue with Cirno is that she can feel like a big secondary pick at times. While I like her character, Touhou has some genuinely interesting picks that often get overshadowed due to the breakout parts of the game's fandom.

NSA is responding on /co/ right now. It's not going great for him currently.

>>80874
Based.

>>80874
>russkies
>not voting for AM
>>80648

The "response" was absolutely fucking nothing
What a load of bullshit

>>80975
Unless he's trying to put together direct evidence of not being OFA, I think he's done. Considering what Dominos said and the general deflecting, I'm not counting on it right now.

>>80985
How would you get evidence of NOT being somebody, anyway? How does that even work?

>>80987
For one, he could actually share art he's made and explain what he's been doing in that regard. Easiest proof would be to get him to actually work with OFA to prove the two aren't the same, but that's quite unlikely to happen. Explain why his Discord was being posted on that one Magma. All of that.

>>80753
BSfags do care about their game, to an obsessive degree. It doesn't really shine through in King threads, but actual BS threads are mostly autistic lorefags throwing mini-essays at each other, gameplay discussion, and anons helping out newfags. Grimm is appreciated, but he doesn't really dominate the threads like he does in King.
Aliceposting is also mostly dead these days.

>>81007
>Aliceposting is also mostly dead these days.
Makes all the Alices getting voted into Queen this year seem even odder in hindsight.

>>80660
Literally nobody outside here cares about any of that.

>>81008
Dedicated Alice threads still get made, but there was a decrease in BS Alice, and an increase in Alice Margatroid being posted. BS threads are mostly Alice-free, outside of the usual lore discussion and the resident Aliceschizo (singular).
I'd wager that people just remember the campaigns from 2021 and 2022, which is why they were voted in.

>>80723
What fucking people? /v/ doesn't play games, you should know that.

>>81016
I play video games....