/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>65648
See? Exactly what I meant, I didn't even have time to just reply and there's already a new one.

>>65647
Based

>>65649
I have no real strong opinions one way or the other on this.

>>65651
I would have preferred a Queen-related OP, but oh well.

>>65655
Kirby is technically Queen related.

>>65626
Not sure of Andy but Leyley is absolutely qualifying for Queen.

>>65629
I wish more Umineko characters got attention aside from Battler because even though he's my favorite, there's still some other really good characters, and frankly Battler's supporters really need to chill with him. It gets tiring seeing him all the damn time. As for wrestling, I like TFR but I dislike how Battler and 47 seem to get more attention for that then their source material.

>>65657
Nah.

>>65661
round 1 jobber

>>65660
Oh yeah, the spergout over his loss was super annoying. Like yeah, it's sad, but it was too much.

>>65659
Spitevoting her if she does

>>65652
All jobbers

>>65665
for what purpose?

>>65668
shit character
shit "game"

>>65653
The 3rd of November, so in ten days.

>>65669
Post discarded, Mighty Poo

>>65647
I hope Mac and Doc can at least make Elite Eight in the next Co-op

>>65677
In the trash.

Recette sucks.

>>65652
'luv Mega Man
'luv Kirby
'luv Dragon Quest
'luv the Eggman with the master plan
total demon death
7/9

>>65685
>t. Belmonts

>>65692
Where are the rules?

>>65695
I saw it on the new wiki
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/King_of_/v/_2021

>>65696
>2021

>>65698
The 2022 page doesn't say that a spin-off needs at least 2 games to be considered a spin-off
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/King_of_/v/_2022

>>65696
>>65702
Currently most of the /v/ content is just being pulled off its associated wikis to start off. Still what was written alongside those years, though it would probably be best to dig up the pastebins to double check last year's rules.

>>65700
Kleiner probably will qualify again, Lamarr is not so certain. Stanley most likely won't qualify, might get a decent amount of votes at least. Klein is just maybe not going to be in the Bottom tourney, but that's it.

>>65700
>faithbros
They were great last year, hopefully at least one of them can qualify again.
>ayin, roland
Were good in the side tourneys, would be nice to see them qualify.
>sissel
He's neat and was fun in Heroes, maybe the recent remaster will give him a boost.
>edgeworth
Courtroom stuff is always great. I personally prefer Phoenix, but Edgeworth's good too.
>frank west
I like Frank, hopefully he can do better this time.
>the other two
Not so sure who they are, but I know that I don't really care about them at all.

7/9, also not a bad list.

>>65701
>top three
Not as good as the guys, but fine.
>beatrice
Funny and actually on character unlike KEKler, not bad.
>smoker
Absolutely disgusting, fuck you.
>gruntilda
The second best character from her games, her rhyming makes her better than the other dames.
>franziska
Again, courtroom stuff is great. I do prefer her father, however.
>shodan
Don't know her, can't say anything but seems liked enough from what I've read in these threads.
>metal gear woman I think
Absolutely no idea who this is, can't say anything about her.

4/9, middle detracts a few points, rest is decent.

>>65706
Jokes aside, this opens a serious question. If you've only lost to two tournament winners and a runner-up, would you still be eligible to be called a jobber?

>>65708
Your actual theoretical ability doesn't matter, only your perception.

>>65712
Boss, where are my brothers other than Cubot? We need to elect the chairman of your Managing Council.

Eggman > cartoon Robotnik

Ok, so what are everyone’s expectations for King and Queen this year? Will they be an improvement over last time or do you expect voting trends to remain the same?

>>65745
King is very likely to be an improvement since last year had several problems behind it. Really obvious winner (love him or not), a lot of hype campaigns dying even faster than usual, a lot of anti-climatic match-ups happening, etc.

Queen will have to see. Could really go either way, but it has a very solid track record overall.

>>65745
I'm hoping that Queen is as chill as last year.
I hope King this year is better, too. Last time, it derailed into endless rape and Battler seethe, which while funny, got old by the end of the tournament.

I'm looking forward to the maps, they were fun to draw for.

>>65764
Assume the Fuhrer pic isn't being allowed again? Curious either way how the hell Nyarly's campaign will go this time. I'd love to see a continuation of the conspiracy posting this time.

I can't stop thinking about Bejita...

>>65768
Goku...

>>65707
>>ayin, roland
>Were good in the side tourneys, would be nice to see them qualify.
They consistently qualify for King, so I imagine they'll get in again this year, even after the release of L*mbus, the issue is that neither has made it past round 1 outside of Ayin's run in Heroes, so I hope at least one of them can do decently this year. I have plans for them in Co-op too although that's obviously a lot further away.

>>65708
The actual definition of jobber as used in wrestling is someone who loses to prop up a stronger contestant. Under that definition, you can argue Doomguy fits as beating him brings attention to whoever beats him.

>>65775
Doomguybros...

>>65745
/co/ didn't exactly experience a dastric change in activty and voting trends this year (campaign-centric characters and classic heavy hitters did much better than usual in Ms. /co/, but this can easily be attributed to the email verification and anti-rigging measures), so I'm not expecting Queen and King to deviate significantly from last time.
One thing for sure - and this is a no-brainer for anyone who followed the thread discussion during Mr. /co/, expect some drama and meta discussion in regards to previous year's winners to take place. And assuming CAMPOONER shit posters show up, so will the debates surrounding innate popularity versus thread presence.

>>65779
I mean, in my opinion campaigns are a way to make your character more popular, but at the same time, you shouldn't throw away inate board popularity.

>>65775
Doomguy can't be a jobber, since Doomguy actually wins in big matches. Jobber do not. As it is Banjo is the true jobber of the tournament

>>65781
Banjo's record is so bad that calling him a jobber is being generous

>>65784
Some faves lost, especially Battler to Christopher Robin.

>>65787
He might get a small boost that's enough to get him onto the bracket, but I think Genofags kinda ruined his general perception on /v/,

>>65787
I don't see him making it unless Super Mario RPG is allowed to have separate slots from the main series, especially since Mario is limited to two slots this year

>>65789
A few people asked Balls about that in the Mr. /co/ afterparty threads and he confirmed Mario RPGs would be treated as spin-offs from the main Mario series, so he'll be in a separate slot from Mario and Bowser etc

>>65767
We can ask Balls if Nyarly will be allowed to use the Fuhrer pic

>>65787
I hate that Geno is the only Super Mario RPG character people care about, he's not even that good of a character.

>>65781
Banjo is just fodder. People have turned jobber into a meme phrase but Doomguy is the technical definition of one.

>>65791
I hope Ancestor qualifies again for King this year. He was kino in /v/illains.

Does anyone have that one Vocaroo from Queen 2020 with a Reimufag singing about how she is better than Tifa?

>>65787
He was decently close to actually qualifying last year, so I think if there's a more vocal campaign he could make it.

So /v/ has a whitelist. Who's in there that actually has a chance? Who do you think will be added?

>>65796
Vocaroo?
It got turned into its own musical song.
7 Crimson Queen of /v/ - Never /v/ Bored - /v/ the Musical IX

>>65787
>>65790
>>65797
>every party member from SMRPG might make it this year
>except Mallow

>>65805
While it would be fun to see Mallow in as well, I see almost no scenario where Geno outright wins even if he made for a fun campaign. How would he fare better?

>>65806
I could actually see Mallow doing better than Geno simply because he hasn't been utterly ruined by Smash Bros rosterfaggotry.

>>65760
I don't see Battler doing well, but I think Mario could be Elite Eight seeing as Wonder was good. He's got a lot of potential for a great campaign with stuff like Hotel Mario and DiC YTPs and QPUposting.

>>65809
If anything, I feel Mario actually managing to make it to Top 16 last year is the best sign that he has actual elite potential. Granted, I feel he's going to have hard odds if pitted early against one of the main powerhouses, but if he gets a good enough bracket this year he might have a shot.

>>65812
I'd disagree Geno is ONLY popular because of Smash. Even if it did inflate his popularity, he's always seemed to be one of the breakout characters from that game above Mallow. He's a mechanical marvel with a cool design, and sometimes that alone can do a lot of carrying. At minimum, I'd certainly say it's the case in the West. He was also boosted by general 2000s internet presence, which is a whole part of why he even got big in terms of Smash requests around Brawl times.

That all said, I do think his personality is his biggest fault, and by extension his biggest challenge by far in King of /v/. Even Mario, who has to struggle with his plain bread stigma, has years of personality and material to pull off both official and unofficial. Geno is a star officer who's pretty straight to the point, and even fans don't deviate much off that. His best hope would be the remake giving him some more moments to shine, and while the cutscenes might do that to an extent I can't see that much different over the original game.

>>65811
That too. I think with a good campaign, he can reach Elite Eight this year. I had an idea of making a video in the style of those SM64 blooper videos from 2008 to support him, and maybe I'll try making a YTP too.

>>65629
Not Umineko, but it would be nice if Higurashi qualified in King for once. Ooishi and Keiichi are fun characters, and were also significant to TFR if I remember correctly.

>>65814
I didn't say "ONLY popular", I said "SO popular". I know he was well liked because he was "so cool", but him not being in Smash made him stay in people's minds forever, and is probably known to some that have not played Super Mario RPG. He is THE SMRPG character, and that's unfortunate.
But yeah, his lacking personality is the main problem with him. I don't think he would be interesting to have in the tournament, he feels like Round 1/2 fodder. I would much prefer someone like Mallow or Smithy to qualify instead.

>>65784
Battler lost to Chris Robin just as the tournament was picking up heat. Robin was essentially a whitelisted character who only got his camp going in R2 when he had the prospect of meeting Battler.
Cue clash of memes that imploded the whole round. The tournament basically climaxed too early and too many good picks lost.
Christopher was not even /v/, but much less so than AM was, so it kind of led him to autolose the next round from spitevotes (regardless of the /pw/anon who beat his game imo)
Leaving the tourney with only a few heavy hitters like Jack, AM or such, mostly drowned out by Yugi/Grim GETposting wars.

>>65814
>>65818
If you ask me I think some of the character from Super Paper Mario would make great additions to this tourney

>>65820
>mostly drowned out by Yugi/Grim GETposting wars.
This has less to do with the competition being weak and more with Black Souls fags not knowing when to leave.

>>65821
I am nominating multiple Paper Mario characters from different games for both Queen and King.

>>65817
Talked about it last thread, but could easily see Madotsuki, Curly, and Marisa all having good shots. They're all generally well-liked and the first two are pretty low controversy at that. Want to say Fio is an easier bet too, but not as certain. She had a relatively easy bracket last time, and sadly I'm not sure I can easily bet on Metal Slug keeping up the pace against some other franchises.

>>65826
Won't even get past qualifiers

>>65826
Literally never ever

>>65816
Yeah, Ooishi and Keiichi are major characters in the later seasons of TFR, but also damn good characters in their source material. I remember there was a push for them last year during qualifiers, but neither were close to making it in unfortunately.

>>65841
I do wonder if that movie will boost one of the fnaf characters chances of getting in
I hope to fucking god it's William

>>65842
Yeah he always qualifies, but he's never made it past round 3

>>65840
Half-certain he'll be /v/'s answer to Omni-Man. A widely hyped newcomer expected to sweep the bracket but will absolutely fail to deliver by losing round 1 if he qualifies, and then his legacy will be having an RPer who simps over the gals in Queen of /v/.

>>65840
Calling it. He loses by around 5% to one of the year’s Elite Eight in Round 3.

>>65843
A William Afton run would be incredible, but I don't see it having good odds of going anywhere big.

>>65701
>Beatrice
>Stingray
>Gruntilda
>Von Karma
>SHODAN
5/9, impressive

>>65798
AVGN and Christopher Robin have serious shots. Miku has a chance, but not a big one. Rest probably won't get far if they even qualify, although anything can happen.

>>65858
>Christopher Robin
the motherfucker is gonna get spitevoted so hard this hard, anons are *STILL* upset at Round 3

>>65822
Shorter audio OC like what was done for him and the Alicorn back in Co-op could probably work well on /v/

should sub-series be effected by the spin-off rule?

How do you think the Heroes and Villains Elite Eight will fare in Queen and King?

>>65869
What do you mean by "sub-series"?

>>65871
Bad except Louie

>>65871
Some probably will qualify, some have a chance to qualify, some probably won't qualify and then there's Klein.

>>65871
Frank and Ayin have the best shots at doing well seeing as they're consistent qualifiers, and I could maybe see Not Shane do decently if he qualifies. Rest are spotty.

>>65871
Heroes
>Phoenix
Is already E8, barred
>Frank West
could enter with a campaign
>Ayin
Generally tends to qualify, but don't know if he'd make it out of the first round or two.
>Not Shane
Could get in if you meme him enough
>Little Mac
Nintendo competition would probably be pretty tight IMO
>Danganronpa
As fun as he was in heroes, I don't think he'd be able to outweigh other Danganronpa characters if they qualified.
>Catto
Extremely unlikely of getting anywhere.
>Proto-man
Could honestly qualify but with the push for X last year I think he'd be series ruled unless they took over the rest of the fanbase for Megaman this year.

Villains
>Torres
Barely missed R1 in 2022. Main issue is that AC7 is a few years old now, but if he's courted some people from here and can get some people on board in qualifiers I don't think he's impossible for R1. AC has only entered with Pixy in 2019 and with JPEG Dog in 2020 if I remember.
>Erika
Umineko never qualified anyone but Beatrice for Queen but I could see Erika if there's enough funposting for her. Especially since Beato herself tends to job in Queen.
>Dracula
Seems to do alright in King, got slapped by AM last time tho.
>Danganronpa
She's not the star girl of the game, right? I doubt she could outweigh the popular vote even if she, like the guy in heroes, was fun.
>Wily
Could qualify. Honestly he could even win or get far like Eggman if people bothered getting behind him.
>Louie
Olimar is way more well known, I think he'd take a spot more easily just cause of Smash bros.
>Kefka
Not impossible. Would be better than fucking Cloud or Sephiroth.
>James
I don't remember if this is the way the rules worked, but manga and anime based on a video games franchise are technically allowed, right? Hence Rebecca was a thing.
He's also in some of the early video games to boot, so with shilling I don't find him impossible.

>>65871
Have a feeling like besides the guys who already make it into mainline tourneys, Wily and Proto have a decent chance.
Kefka could maybe, but a year right after an FF winner and being seen as a bit overrated these days might hurt him too much.

>>65871
Little Mac I can see qualifying if someone actually remembers to nominate him alongside Mike Tyson

Just to make sure, the E8 series limit reduction only applies to the tournament where it happened in right? For example I don't want Jack Garland to screw over my chances of getting Rydia or Terra in Queen of /v/ because FF7fags keep pushing Tifa and Yuffie to the top and there's no third slot to go to

>>65879
This one was pretty good. Too bad the rerelease on Xbox fucked up the controls.

>>65880
Pretty sure that's right, so FF will have three slots in Queen but two in King.

Queen of /v/ is over or hasn't started yet?

>>65883
Happen a week ago bro, sorry you missed out

>>65883
It hasn't started yet.

>>65883
Not yet
The /v/ tourneys usually happen in Nov

>>65883
November 3rd 7:00 PM EST
Mark your calendar

>>65883
It's over, Sentret won.

>>65888
Real?!?!?!

>>65891
Real >>64450
https://itsalmo.st/time-for-queen-of-v-lx9d

>>65890
I could see the bear or the gate guy getting somewhere
Maybe Shadowheart could be forced into qualifiers but I doubt they could get that far, western characters were never big hitters in Queen and the only exceptions I can think of are GlaDOS. Shantae maybe.
Someone like SHODAN could, but I feel like she'd need momentum first.

Are there any games that you play a lot of or just love that you wouldn't nominate anyone from?

>>65899
Monster Hunter

>>65871
Torres will job because he's Libby's dad.

>>65876
Proto-Man could probably get in if the X series is separated from the mainline series

>>65876
>Olimar is way more well known, I think he'd take a spot more easily just cause of Smash bros.
Eh, Pikmin fans absolutely love Louie. I feel he has a good shot, at least if you're comparing him to Olimar.

>>65899
For me, it's PSO2NGS.
PSO2 was a good game, NGS really is not. There's no real characters I like or could or would do stuff for, the game is basically just a dress-up game. Despite me playing it literally every fucking day, it's not a game that I would recommend.

To bring my take on the Doomguy jobber question
I think there's also the point that in resent years /v/ has grown to hate the Doomguy because of the Nu Doom games
He went from being a average space marine to a god killing, indestructible force of nature that has demons living in fear
There's also the whole gameplay loop that people have problems with as well
Tl;Dr "Doom has become reddit"

Wait, how did Curly lose to Zelda TWICE?

>>65677
In the enclosed pool area

>>65876
>Umineko never qualified anyone but Beatrice for Queen but I could see Erika if there's enough funposting for her. Especially since Beato herself tends to job in Queen.
I don't really see her chances of qualifying being good seeing as she's never qualified before and the anon who campaigned for her is done, but who knows.

>>65931
>lost to winner in the finals
>lost to finalist
>lost to winner
>"jobber"
the term jobber has jobbed to itself

>>65950
I want to settle this right here, right now. Within the context of 4chan tournaments, what exactly defines a "Jobber"?

>>65955
I think it just means "disappointing loss" or "comical/repeated losses"

>>65943
OK.

>>65976
I guess

>>65988
I think it'd be fucking hilarious if one of the Plumbers Don't Wear Ties characters actually got in this year, I hope it happens

>>65989
It'd be super funny. The funposting with someone like Thresher in the bracket would be amazing. Same thing applies to Not Shane.

>>65991
I'm mixed on his inclusion despite loving him, but he was pretty fun in the side tournaments and has a lot of funposting potential. If he gets in, I hope he won't be one of those whitelisted picks that do nothing like Mike Tyson.

>>65995
I don't want him in, but at least he shouldn't be a complete waste of a slot like Mike Tyson. Really, who the fuck gives a shit about Mike Tyson?

>>65997
Tyson getting in last year is weirder when you consider Little Mac wasn't even nominated despite being the main character of Punch-Out!!

>>65995
He technically breaks code, but if we ARE having a whitelist then I feel he's absolutely one of the best uses of it you could get. The Angry Video Game Nerd is a cornerstone of internet video game culture, and the character himself is pretty distinct and over-the-top compared to James Rolfe. Besides, there isn't really another tournament where he'd make sense to be included.

>Mike Tyson
I get he was a bit part of Punch-Out's initial success, but even in that game he barely has anything going on. Guess you could say something similar about Christopher Robin, but he has a wealth of memes AND actual relevance to /v/.

>>65991
He's not a video game character, but AVGN is cool enough that I'm willing to let him slide as being honorary /v/.

>>65998
He was only nominated and qualified because he was whitelisted.

>>65999
>Besides, there isn't really another tournament where he'd make sense to be included.
AVGN would fit more /tv/ than /v/.
>Christopher Robin
Literally just a made-up character, nothing to even do with the actual character of Christopher Robin. Basically the same thing as some shit like Sonic.exe.
Fuck the whitelist.

>>66001
>AVGN would fit more /tv/ than /v/.
Eh, feel that's a stretch. Even IF we ever get /tv/ tournaments, feel he'd struggle against the sheer amount of competition. The AVGN is way more at home on /v/ in my opinion, which is crucial from the perspective of these tournaments.

Fair enough on CR, even if I'm personally okay with him.

>Fuck the whitelist.
I don't mind it on principle, although I do think people might have gotten a little TOO eager about it last year. Doctor Doom should not have even been considered much as I enjoy the character.

>>66001
>AVGN would fit more /tv/ than /v/
Nah, that's a stretch, and Nostalgia Critic already fills that role, the only place AVGN has is in /v/ tourneys.

>>66003
AVGN is a show, with episodes and seasons, thus it fits more on /tv/ than /v/. In fact, if you look up "AVGN", it will say it is a TV show. Still, he's one of the less egregious whitelisted characters due to him being tangibly related to video games; but like every e-celeb that does vidya stuff, he's not video games.
>I don't mind it on principle, although I do think people might have gotten a little TOO eager about it last year
The problem with the whitelist is that literally all but two of the characters on it (X and Casket) are literally not video game characters. The closest are just the real people, but those are literally people, they shouldn't be in because of this, they aren't characters. The whitelist should be for characters like Jessie and James, not initially from a video game, but are from a video game franchise and are also in video games. These two are characters that are debatable, unlike someone like Dr. Doom who is clearly a comic and cartoon character.

>>66007
Wait, aren't Jessie and James already eligible? Thought the rule for gray cases was either you had to debut in a game first or be part of a bigger video game franchise, with Team Rocket fitting firmly into the latter. Miss Pauling is in the same situation and still manages to qualify.

Anyways, on the Nerd, I feel one of the best points going for him other than /v/idya ties is that he's not a direct self-insert. If someone tried to insert a person like Jerma into the tournament, it would obviously be a no-go.

How do you feel about Sam & Max actually? They've qualified for both tournaments due to their franchise's specific history, but ARE technically comics first.

>>66008
>Characters debuting in non-vidya media that is part of an established vidya franchise are accepted
Would you look at that, it is in the rules of eligibility. Actually, looking at the rules written for last year's tourney on the new wiki, there is literally ZERO (0) reasons for the whitelist to exist. The whitelist characters belong in Barred.
>How do you feel about Sam & Max actually?
They are in the same vein as Geralt and I guess AM, and I don't think any of these should actually be allowed. But, if we were to have a vote for allowing fictional characters with an official popular series of video games (at least 3, not mobile/gacha) instead of a whitelist, that would be better. This would allow Sam & Max but not someone like Asterix, a comic character with multiple video game but they aren't popular and he isn't known for those.

>>66009
>if we were to have a vote for allowing fictional characters with an official popular series of video games (at least 3, not mobile/gacha) instead of a whitelist, that would be better
Well for one, this would cut off someone like AM despite his game being the only major adaptation of the short story. Second, the issue with this is that some characters allowed by that rule are pretty absurd. Spider-Man, Batman, Goku, SpongeBob, etc. would all be able to join under that criteria. (I will say Spider-Man would have made more sense to whitelist over Doom even if I think neither should be allowed, but that's getting into a whole other can of worms.)

>>66010
Ah right, those do have popular series of games... Well, never mind, just have an "AM clause" allowing him to participate because he's gotten into the Elite (barring him now feels wrong). The current written rules of eligibility are good and the whitelist only serves to shit on them.

>>66008
>>66009
>>66010
I feel like a character should ONLY be whitelistable if they couldn't be in another tournament. Spiderman already has /co/, so he shouldn't be eligible for /v/

>>66020
This is the reason why I'm very partial to having Sam and Max in King. I love the characters, and they could have a great campaign in the /v/ tournament, but they already are regulars during Mr. /co/, with one of them even having reached the quarterfinals stage. What's the point of having them take in part King of /v/?

Wish I knew about this during /v/illains to go along with the Koishi and LobCorp funposting
lobotomy corporation but it's the kkhta part 6 opening

I wanted to make a couple mods to add custom content to a game to support my picks for Queen and King this year, but it doesn't look like I'll be able to make the mods in time for either tournament. Should I save the idea and make the mods for Co-op instead, assuming that's happening again?

>>66011
What about a normal grandfather clause?

>>66029
Co-op is most likely happening again, yes.

>>66031
Fuck no, not with this shitty whitelist.

Queen of /v/ is in 6 days
Post your top 3 mains, rate others if you want to
>Rydia, Curly Brace, Maya Fey

>>66035
I still think this is a poor team idea, both have way better possible teammates.

>>66036
Yeah, feel like Mario will go with Luigi again.
Battler, I dunno. Eggman will probably be with Wily again.
What teams do you expect to return for Co-Op?

>>66034
For me, it's:
>Binah, Beatrice, Gruntilda

>Rydia
She cute and one of the best FF girls. Helps that IV is one of my favorite games in the series
>Curly Brace
I never really had an opinion on her despite loving Cave Story
>Maya Fey
She already made Elite Eight last year