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(Retroactively thread #15)

>>187519
Even the tournament threads have legacy numbering, just like my comics

>/v/ is on thread 17
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Mr./Ms. /co/ Off-Season Discussion Thread (Vol. 2) #2

>>187522
/co/ all stars ruins yet another good thing

>>187517
Spear comeback when

>>187529
>Genndy
Not until Jack is out of the equation, in which case he has to win and then be retired for several years.

Predict champions for Ms /co/ and Mr /co/ 2025

>>187517
Fuck you I wanted to name it thread #15 and use the chad Mr. /co/ E8 image.

>>187537
Ms: Raven, Eris, Toph, Azula, Chel
Mr: Jack, Hank, Daffy, SpongeBob, Optimus

Less likely but still have a decent shot: Starfire, Wile E or Marvin, Batman, Superman, one of the Eds, Megatron or Starscream

Would be funny while still fitting /co/'s tastes: A Smiling Friends character, EVE

>>187505
>Who are the STRONGEST most DANGEROUS characters
That's not a thing in Mr. /co/, powerlevels are pretty flexible. Unless you're Monarch or Silver, then you're just fucked forever.

As for Ms., well, you could see how much /tnt/'s predictions of that are worth last year when people here were hyping up Brisby and Jessica Rabbit and one didn't qualify at all while the other maintained her position as an E8 gatekeeper.

>>187543
Monarch was the closest to beating Daffy last year before Spider-Man, losing only by 20 votes, and it was the second closest of the round 2 results with Mojo Jojo and Superman only having an 18 vote difference. His wife might have won first, but he still shows promise.

>>187537
watch the mr. winner be farquaad because god hates you all and your predictions

>>187542
>Azula
I think we can dispense with taking her as a serious winner contender. Her place in (F)ARTS was always the weakest and she hasn’t got E8 since 2019. No campaigning either.

>>187542
>Eris
Tainted because of the NSA association.
>Azula
The FARTS no one liked.
>SpongeBob
I think the SpongeBob E8 fatigue will kick in.
>Prime
Most likely TF and the only one from there as a realizable winner, but I felt like he had a lucky Livesey-tier run in 2023 thanks to randomized brackets.

>>187542
I'm already betting against Eris, Spongebob, Batman, and Superman. Eris will have the NSA stigma. Anons have tried saying it won't be that bad because NSA chose Wuya in the end, but Ms. /co/ voters are petty. Spongebob has the same problem as Shake, where voters want their grumpy neighbors to win way more. Spongebob has made an elite eight unlike Shake, and I can see him making another one, but I don't see him winning before Squidward. I don't think Mr. /co/ anons are predictable enough to vote for the faces of DC to win right after voting for the face of Marvel to win.

>>187549
Jokes on you, I'm hyped to drawfag for Farquaad again. God loves me. Amen.

>>187549
If anything that's a more solid prediction for a Shrek character in light of the trailer reveal.

>>187552
>I don't think Mr. /co/ anons are predictable enough to vote for the faces of DC to win right after voting for the face of Marvel to win.
i'd extend this to any DC or Marvel character. I think comic characters are going to do better in general going forward (so long as people keep the enthusiasm up) but it's too soon for Mr. to have another capeshit winner.
However, I wouldn't say the same about Ms., and I think Raven is in a good position to win this year. Knock on wood.

I to this day don’t get Hank being overwhelmingly the strongest non-winner.
He’s fine, his show is alright in a subdued way but not a particular highlight of the era, his character personality is alright but isn’t that strong compared to the other heavies, he’s liked on /co/ but the presence of him isn’t as frequent as the CM shows. There really isn’t a reason I see why he’d be multitudes above every other contestant who hasn’t won, outside being maybe the show being the most subdued and mature of the ones with characters who have a shot

>>187554
The trailer was universally panned so I think it hurts Shrek characters more than anything

>>187554
>>187558
We don’t even know if Farquaad is going to return in that movie yet.

>>187537
>>187505
Going off that statistical chart anon made the strongest returners would be:
>Chel, Raven, Starfire, Eris, EVE, Toph
>Hank, Jack, Grim, JJJ, Daffy, Aku, Shaggy
Taking into account meta debuffs JJJ could taken off. Chel, Starfire, Grim, and Shaggy do not feel like winners with their current silent obligatory powerjobber trajectory. They need an actual campaign started for them. If they got a sizeable vocal base then they're in good standing for a win.
I also still stand by Ms. having a strong favoritism for consistent midcards that don't bring much attention to themselves. They're the possible inoffensive under the radar winners that wouldn't be surprising for Ms. /co/ winners.

>>187558
I hope Mr. /co/ wouldn't overreact like that. Shrek is unironically good.

>>187557
KotH is absolutely a highlight and Hank is one of the greatest western animated MC's ever.

>>187562
…in bizarro world

>>187563
...which is our world.

>>187557
this guy did not understand King of the Hill

>>187551
Optimus' run was definitely luck but he still had a good E8 showing and only lost to Zim by 10 votes. It put TF back in the spotlight as a series for Mr. /co/ considering three Decepticons qualified the following year. I think Optimus will still have good odds.

>>187557
It's called a cult following.

>>187560
>I also still stand by Ms. having a strong favoritism for consistent midcards that don't bring much attention to themselves. They're the possible inoffensive under the radar winners that wouldn't be surprising for Ms. /co/ winners.
I sure hope that era of underwhelming winners is behind us now.

>>187575
It is neither behind Ms or Mr

>>187576
Projecting /v/ro...

>>187566
>>187573
If he was so liked people would not try to make him the new Geralt

>>187585
Hank actually got three E8s on main unlike that fraud.

>>187586
On easy matchups

>>187589
It's a well known fact these things are rigged

If Hank is a lucky jobber then there are literally no powerhouses anywhere because they can all be called that.

Stop humoring the baiter.

>>187592
Unironically this.

>>187595
Oswald...

>>187560
Sexiness IS a character campaign. If that's not good enough for you then these characters are too good for this tournament.

>>187604
New level of cope unlocked

>>187604
There are thousands of /co/ girls that can be considered sexy.

>>187614
From the minds that brought you "coomers are being discriminated against" comes...

Stop giving the obvious troll replies /tnt/...

>>187618
never

>>187617
NTA but they are. As someone who doesn't want a blatant coompick like Bellum to win, you can't say traditional hot characters aren't getting shit simply for being hot and therefore inherently boring. This happens in both Ms. and Queen.

>>187621
There's a reason EVE and Amaterasu get so highly regarded; it's too torture other people

>>187621
>As someone who doesn't want a blatant coompick like Bellum to win
You are literally part of the problem

How do we reconcile the anti coomer stigma with the fact that Frankie won last year? Does her campaign make her an evil campooner pick?

Hot women characters do have a natural advantage. The anti coomer thing really only shows in OC output and some vocal complaining. Tourneyheads, cause they find standard coom boring or cause degenerate autists specifically are drawn to "tourney culture" have created an odd world where hot women get no porn and all sorts of gay stuff, furries, and even loli's get content instead, even in the porn tourneys. It's an odd ass backwards time being a normal goonfag in tourneys.

>>187631
Also the only normal hot women porn I can even remember the last several months being drawn tourney related was that Hexfag drawpile thing a week ago (granted the actual porn was of a pokemon, Hex just was very suggestive) and that caused a bunch shitflinging her for some reason.

>>187632
I think the shitflinging was because Hex was being praised as a coom pick while characters like Tifa and 2B were lambasted and falseflagged for being coom, creating a bit of a double standard.

>>187633
No one praises Hex for being a coompick. It was cause people don't like Hexfag specifically.

>>187621
>Queen
/v/ is lolicons, not anticoomers. They're not being funny or ironic when they vote in younger girl characters.

What actually wold be the reception if one of the powerhouse straight coom icons like Raven, Chel, 2B, or Tifa got a lewd campaign in the main tourneys? I know there'd be some complaints here but could that actually give them a win in the main tourney? I know there's speculation Hex could've won if the drawfag just went lewd with it.

>>187637
I would understand it and 2B would benefit from any genuine campaign
anyway why was Recette the only winner with a lewd campaign besides the obvious?

>>187638
The trouble with giving 2B any sort of genuine campaign is that she is secondary fans: The Character.

>>187638
>Recette the only winner with a lewd campaign
Wasn't it a perfectly wholesome campaign during the tournament, aerd was just a degenerate outside of that?

>>187642
it was wholesome for the first couple of rounds

What if I actually do find Fang attractive and voted with my pp, what does that make me?

>>187643
While I agree with the observation, the ground of meta arguments in general kind of comes from the counterpoint to this sentiment, being that if that's what the board is naturally inclined towards then it's fine that's what characters get voted on.
Coom debating in general seems wrapped up in the larger debate about more "interesting" and active picks and purposes of voting.

>>187647
a nigger

>>187647
me

>>187647
A bird probably

>>187641
So is Hex and that worked out well for her

>>187652
The "genuine campaign" for her was literally one guy making up a whole different character.

>>187653
what character?

>>187648
Adding a layer to this is the fact you got coom posting and OC for just about everything other than standard popular sexy girls. The designated female porn tourney now (or at least it was intended to be) basically punts all these picks from even qualifying.

>>187637
>>187638
Considering the backlash humanoid Amaterasu got in 2023, I don't think people would be that understanding

>>187657
>humanoid Amaterasu
I don't think that's a good comparison...

>>187646
Today is /cov/ so I guess things are extra retarded

>>187633
That's just the normal round 3-4 /QoV/. Hexfag just made the mistake of addresing the shitflingers.
>>187635
Imagine hating on OC. Oh wait, this is /co/. Go on.

>>187660
Why does /co/ hate OC so much?

https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Spider-Man/Gallery
What are all these art pics and videos doing here, /v/ told me /co/ was silent and hated OC!

>>187660
>That's just the normal round 3-4 /QoV/
It has never gotten that shit before. Even 2023 was fine until the crown steal shit came up.

>>187660
It's not hating on OC. Again, it's hating on hexfag specifically, even the shit about off-season OC being bad felt like it was made up just to attack him. Personally I don't care if he's making some coom art for a coom character. It does get annoying when he gets his character pushed for shelling out a bunch of completely unrelated quirky avatarfagging in the main tourney though.

>>187666
Why does /co/ hate off season OC so much?

>>187666
>It does get annoying when he gets his character pushed for shelling out a bunch of completely unrelated quirky avatarfagging in the main tourney though.
Totally okay when the Decepticons and the Monarch do it however.

>>187662
>>187666
stop feeding the troll

This was never an OC competition, the OC was just supposed to help the characters do well and liven up the threads. The fact that people take attacks on OC and artists so personally shows how far we are from the original point of these things.

>>187671
i dunno dude, i don't think it's a good idea to constantly insult the people who put the most effort into tournaments or shit-talk the characters they support
the fact that most of the widely beloved OC creators, like Psyanon or the boxing artist, avoid supporting any specific characters is an omen of deeper problems.

>>187676
>avoid supporting any specific characters is an omen of deeper problems.
I don't see how that of all things is an open. They just want to participate and have fun without backing anyone character.

>>187676
>i dunno dude, i don't think it's a good idea to constantly insult the people who put the most effort into tournaments or shit-talk the characters they support
Why is it that insutling Hexfag is somehow insulting all artists and contributors? People shit on Pencilfag and it's never seen as sign of hating all OC.

If anything I think it's more telling that admitted campaigners (NSA, E8fag, Hexfag, that one waifufag who flooded a Smiling Friends thread) have all caused grief in the threads, either directly or indirectly.

>>187680
the constant vitriol towards hexfag is indicative of a broader culture where the work of artists is only respected if they draw for the right characters, those of course being the ones you already like

Hexfag wasn't even seriously slandered by anyone up until the Baiken round incident. What the hell is up with all the weird revisionism that's been popping up about him as of late.

>>187688
I thought it was because Hex Manaic literally isn't a character and is just a cypher for the artist. It's such an odd situation I don't think you can take it as indicative of all other artists.

>>187689
We need to protect our artists from /co/.

>>187689
Hexfag isn't even relevant to /co/, I don't know why people keep pushing that shit here.

>>187694
Trolls baiting, see >>187693

>>187689
They were definitely getting shit for being an ooc bad character campaign. Particalarly after beating Maya. Did you not see all the controversy during the Zelda round?

>>187698
The BBC posting and the King Piccolo avatarfag didn't exactly help.

do not respond to /v/fags
ignore them and eventually they will go back to their own thread

>>187698
The contestant has always been shat on for a variety of reasons but the artists themselves wasn't subject of controversy until more recently.

>>187690
Yes, Hexfag is a unique case, there isn't really a comparison anywhere else. Besides the usual stuff about campaign vs. popuarity or whatever there's the fact the character in question is literally not an actual character and the campaign is based off a guys original interpretation that isn't accurate even to the usual fan gooner approach.

>>187702
The artists started getting shat on a lot R3 last year, then way more R4 onward. The idea that the Baiken stuff was the first part of it is just how people that were neutral or liked him started to turn on him too.

>>187698
Who wasn't getting shit on those rounds?

>>188033
New Elite 8 dropped

Imagine the shitstorm if Looney Tunes gets announced as sold to another company slightly before or during Mr /co/

>>189230
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure I believe the rumors since that would fuck everything even beyond Zaslav's pale. But at least people can't call Daffy a WB winner now.

>>189240
>Disney buys Warner’s remains
>They are now retroactive Disney winners

>>189242
Didn't work for Grievous and Spider-Man

lol augie's having a meltdown and begging to be permanently banned

>>190021
Well now that's a pretty self-explanatory answer. Which competition last year did frogs rank as the 2nd highest seed?

>>189289
Really? Lol, I'd love it to see it

>>190021
Posting frogs should be an immediate ban.

>>190039
That's actually a good point. Aren't Frogs like THE /an/imal?

>>189289
Where?

>>190062
>>190085
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148049184/#148049184
It was actually Birchy, Augie was just mentioned. Guess this means we won't see him around the /co/ tournaments.

>>190093
lol

>>190093
>It was actually Birchy, Augie was just mentioned.
they're the same person

Much more tournament related
>someone brought Johanna winning Ms. in a mom thread
>out of nowhere someone starts shitting on Spider-Man and accuses his supporters of self inserting to fuck Frankie
>someone links a Twitter of some obese autist and goes "This is how his fans really are
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148064779/#148065260
I think we've cracked the mystery of who's been shitting on Spider-Man

>>190122
How in the fuck does Spider-Man of all characters make someone seethe this much.

>>190157
Being THE STRONGEST isn’t always easy

>>190157
To be fair it's in-character for him to be hated.

>>190122
This is somewhat ironical too cause Hildafags have gotta be the most pompous wanker cartoonfags on the boards. Had Johanna won you'd probably be seeing them bragging smugly about it to this day.

>>190209
It's very strange how certain things attract certain types of people to the point where it influences the way their fandom is

>>189230
Yeah, like those old rumors of DC Comics being sold? Forget it, the Warner’s will never sell off their very own mascot characters, that would be equivalent of Disney retiring Mickey Mouse as the face of the company

>>190992
>obscure Eastern European characters
That's Augie, not Birchy
Brush up on your poopdickschizo lore

>>191128
0%
Generals get deleted and will at one point, and if an active thread was the sole criteria then Arcane and Primos would have qualified characters

>>191128
Mods are really getting desperate to raise board activity.

>>191007
>That's Augie, not Birchy
they're the same person

>>191146
Wasn't Arcane allowed for /co/ tournaments?

>>191149
Normally no, they are /v/ original characters and have debuted on /v/ first and foremost. Secondly, /co/ only has a grandfather clause and no other rule about non-/co/ entries.

>>191149
I think they were in qualifiers. None qualified though.

I think a Homestuck character should win either Ms or Mr

>>191152
One of the hosts said they're cleared for /co/ tournaments

>>191181
I still am angry at the nigger mods for nuking the Bluey threads off of /co/

And it’s dead again
Would have been a sweet FOTM if this happened during /co/ qualifiers

>>191184
How is that flavor of the month? Generals don't help in tournaments

>>191163
>>191188
Which would cause more salt?

>>191146
Then consider Wazzo Wednesday and Sari Sunday on /co/ or the Snoot and Hazbin generals on /trash/.
People prefer sticking to their generals than voting in tournaments.