/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>110480
/thread

Ah so we're finally making this the general tournament thread. About time.

>>110474
Kinda of a based picture use and describes these tournament discussions perfectly.

>>110483
Why do people still say this when AM was so comically evil in his last run that fucking NSA complained about it?

>>110435
Don't forget TF2 comic and animated media used to justify Scout's schizo campaign. Something about schizo stuff brings about so much /v/ autism.

>>110490
TF2 comics and animated media are canon part of the TF2 continuity.

>>110492
No, Midna won through the power of friendship too.

By the way, if I want my pick to win Queen, which shonen should I stea- I mean reference scenes from in my campaign?

>>110493
Not video games.

>>110492
They are easy sympathy points for convincing not-so-smart people with low standards.

>>110495
Motivational Scout Quotes (TF2)

People should stop referencing shonen and start referencing seinen, evidently.

>>110489
It becomes funnier when you remember the kind of characters NSA campaigned for.

>>110496
I find faggots crying about "NOT A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER" to be really obnoxious.

>>110503
Well, even MORE seinen.

>>110504
>The Purist who insist on complaining about everything not being 100% right in their own view, whether it be campaigning, characterization or source material.

>>110504
Who do you like that would get that accusation?

>>110496
The fags that trash characters themselves because they're too strong-silent in the threads.

>>110492
Based take. Though I was guilty of it before, I had learned my lesson and think that it aged poorly now.

>>110504
A character not being the medium of the board subject they are competing for is a valid complaint.

>>110507
AM is the main culprit of this.

>>110509
Same. I did it in the past but won't again, just play off more of the character's straight strengths save the exceptionally noteworthy tournament autisms like Brisby - Fang, Dale - Xavier since just a little here and there is fun

>>110512
Are you actually
>>110507
or do you just want to hijack the reply chain for shit posting? AVGN and Dr Doom in King /v/ were definitely big ones

>>110511
It's probably because Eggman only referenced a single previous defeat, compared with other characters having art that featured all their rivals from that year's run.

>>110494
that's the power of Dragon Ball Z

>>110516
>Are you actually
Huh?

>>110496
>The Spitefags
More often than not, just baiters looking for a couple of (You). There's not really anything a single individual can do, less when nobody pays any attention to him.
>The Silentfags
I consider it a necessary evil. While I enjoy the campaign crow, sometimes the thread lurkers should realize their two statement characters don't hold up to all time classics.
>The Campoogner
Really obnoxious when actually confronted, but rarer than people say they are aside from King /v/.
>The LJN
On the same league as discord trannies. They don't wish to be part of the topic, they wish to change the topic.
>DBS derailers
Mentally stunted manchildren and spics that think jokes a toddler would laugh to are funny in a discussion above 18+
>DTVA derailers
Don't have an opinion on them. Don't like them, nor do I hate them. I just feel indifferent, they haven't been able to get any type of reaction from me.
>The "hype" crowd
I used to call this a coin toss but seeing now, having had three occasions where these fags fucked it up, I am inclined to say these are just retards.
>Riggers
Easily the worst out of everyone here. There's no fun around these people, they ruin the threads atmosphere near instantly and they always manage to ruin the chances of their characters ever making it far.

>>110519
Misreplied, meant are you
>>110504 .
Who do you like that when people say they "Aren't a video game character", it annoys you?

>>110496
>>110520
MOEsissy btw

>>110521
I find people who are purist to be annoying. Like this is a /v/ tournament. Not just an average video game popularity poll.
I like the idea of weird shit like Dante's guns being contenders. it makes the /v/ tournaments distinct from the others.

>>110505
Alright, fine, I'll reread all of Vagabond before King this year.

>>110520
>in a discussion above 18+
Anon, I think you are giving most tournament discussion too much credit

>>110523
The guns are the worst offenders ngl. They're non character meme picks that were forgotten after a year they were campaigned for.

>>110526
But it was funny.
>No one would care after a year
Yeah? So? Who fucking cares. People are going to funpost, so let them.

>>110526
To be fair, you can argue this was the result of them getting banned from competing.

>>110527
I should mention that people these funpost votes should have some level of effort in their campaign. Like I wouldn't want this funpost runner to end up like Battler who is being supported just to make people mad.
Like take the red pikmin for example. That was a good example of a funpost runner.

I find it strange that people get overly attached to one character and never move on to giving their other choices a chance. I don't want to see the same shit when I see the elite 8 results.

>>110496
>>110520
You retards do realize that crying about DBZ posters will only encourage them to keep posting?

A Black sheep winner that gets traction and higher quality OC/campaign outside of /tnt/ pre planner's scope will win and this board would seethe that their campaign darling lost to them. This mystery character would go against everything that /tnt/ wants.

>>110528
I still hold the opinion that Wario's biggest advantage over Eggman was the fact that he had better hopes of diversifying further in terms of vocal support. As time goes on, it unfortunately becomes clear that Eggman is a surprisingly quiet pick despite how many anons do love him. I'm not certain Wario could have quite beaten Grimm considering the sheer power gap between the top and bottom parts of the 2023 bracket, but he didn't have as obvious an Achilles' heel as Eggman did.

>>110535
Uhh... AM?

>>110535
>This mystery character would go against everything that /tnt/ wants.
Such as...

>>110535
I've been predicting AM will be the year's KoV textbook jobber eggman-esque, and the character you describe will probably be the one that beats him.

>>110535
Who would count as a black sheep exactly? I take it as a given that anyone from last year that got a lot of goodwill is excluded, along with the obvious favorite former elites. We talking any of the four main tournaments as well?

>>110540
AM doesn't quite fit the /tnt/ campaign darling mold when this site is as of currently very divided on him.

>>110535
You mean Dark horse which would be either a JRPG guy that this board has never heard of or from a popular game that gets no discussion around here whatsoever.

>>110542
Maybe, but he's also certainly not a black sheep at this point. If AM came out of nowhere NOW and won, then he'd count.

>>110544
Yeah I'm not arguing from that angle either.

>>110535
Tifa or 2B finally gets a campaign is what you're saying.

>>110520
Most cancer to least cancer
>Spitefags
>Riggers
>"Entitled to win" campaigners
>DTVAfags
>Forced matchup fags
>Memefags

Not cancer
>The CHADS of /a/
>The Silent Majority

>>110492
Maybe hard opinion, but the roleplay alone didn't get Zorak a win nor any alliance did.
The roleplay got him to a certain stage, but what sealed it for him was a very smart strategy once he got there of trying to tie in the character's importance to AS and later adult animation and humor, as well as pity voting with C. Martin Croker. Very smart move that sealed it for him

>>110546
Someone already said it but the short version of it is timing. Ms. is the first tournament and that's when all hell breaks lose. Spitevoters and funposters have been waiting the whole year and we know how Ms. is ruined since 2019 and why. King happens at the very last time and people are getting really tired. That's when people will have the mentality of "burn it all down" and do the most craziest shit imaginable and there's just no time to cool down. Mr. and Queen are just chill as hell in comparison.

>>110533
Sometimes there simply aren't a lot of characters out there left for you to truly root for, and I say this as someone who has campaigned for multiple characters at the same time. There’s nothing wrong with being specially passionate towards certain things.

>>110496
The absolute worst are the people who when their very specific 1-2 picks lose leave the tournament and refuse to participate further
Damn bitch you can't be that shallow to literally only care about your specific autistic husbando obsession and like zero other game or cartoon characters

>>110496
>>The Campoogner crowd inverse that cries that you HAVE to vote for their characters just because they have a lot of art and the tournament is literally over if they're voted out, even if you've personally engaged with the source material and disliked it
nobody says this

>>110553
I say this.

Tag-Team > King> Co-Op > Queen > Mr > Ms

>>110555
>the most /tnt/pooner opinion imaginable

>>110553
Nobody has to outright say it (though Nfag did) it's just a very observable attitude.

>>110552
That's a very specific group of people to single out.

>>110552
It is fair to do this if you have a lack of knowledge nor care enough to drawfag or write for other characters. All or nothing is kind of based if you play your cards right. You don't have to force others to make OC or care about your characters either.

>>110555
>>110556
>Responding to your own false flag

>>110547
Chel would have been in the same scenario as them if the Shirley controversy hadn't happened.

>>110546
It's simple. /co/ is very chill about the guys and would be happy with any of them winning because they like them all. /v/ likes all their girls so they are chill with any winning.
/co/ gets infamously autistic about your preferred waifu and /v/ gets super autistic about their favorite self-inserts, so both of those have the absolute worst fanbases because fags are way too over serious about it and can't accept any one but theirs

>>110557
Speaking off this, what characters have had their reputations hurt by sore supporters over the years? Thinking cases like N (the /co/ one), Tifa, or Wesker.

>>110563
Lady

>>110480
My Hero btw.

>>110558
It's a very common group
>>110559
I'm not saying to go intensely making as high level of OC for whoever is remaining vs who you main, not at all
Just that if you have exactly zero interest in a single character when there's 32 left that speaks more how little you care for said medium. The worst are those who won't even follow tournaments past qualifiers if some random shit from some obscure webcomic doesn't qualify

>>110562
B-but my Ko/v/ mains aren't self-inserts...

>>110564
Thinking about it, a lot of winners could vouch to being able to do this. If there's one way to justify you being champion material, it's being able to reasonably claim that you are "THE x" in something. Just naming examples from the more recent years:

>THE original iconic cartoon woman
>THE original Final Fantasy antagonist
>THE classic cheesy cartoon villain of the 80s
>THE first big modern indie girl or THE beloved robot girl in gaming
>THE schizo king or simply "Literally Me"
and going off what you said
>THE first breakout character of Adult Swim

>>110490
Scout isn't even schizophrenic in the comics or game at most he's fucking retarded.

>>110555
Should probably clarify before I start anything I enjoy all of these to some extent, I just have more fun with some than others. /co/lympus has some heavy hits, but plenty of misses. Meanwhile I can't name one Tag Team that wasn't a beginning-to-end joyride.

>>110571
2021 and 2022? Could argue they were still fun riding alongside the shitshows, but those two stick out here.

Nickelodeon is shit and finished

>>110571
Literally 2021 and 2022 were the worst things I've ever participated in

>>110573
4chan birthed the Dan Schneider copypasta, so nothing's really changed. It's not some secret that Nickelodeon is a shitty company to work with whether it be animation or otherwise.

>>110571
Oh sweet summer child...

>>110573
Source for Dan Schneider being creatively involved in the Nicktoons /co/ actively talks about?

>>110571
The recent Tag Team was what salvaged the fucking thing, same thing with Co-op to an extent.

>>110573
Disneybros it's our time

>>110496
>>110548
I'd add a category: troll/chaosfag. Just wants to start shit, see the tourney burn. May or may not actually be engaged with any character but that's besides their main pointwhich is agitating and demolishing.

Worst to fine:
>Riggers
Obviously the worst I think. Literally destroys the tournament fundamentally. Justifies host paranoia. Ruins characters.
>Trolls/Chaosfags
Probably a lot of crossover with riggers, spitefags and meme fags.
>Spitefags
Yes, they're annoying and can make the tournaments ugly and unfun. Thrive in ms. /co/'s especially.
>campooner
The worst thing out of the meta-tization of tourneys. Basically wants to turn main board tourney's into some kind of /general/ wank. Been calling out this attitude since 2021.
>meme crowd
It's gay and stupid but I think largely falls in with trolls/chaosfags and some people wanting to spite the whole tourney cause their picks lost (Johanna and Jack Frost were largely used for this purpose).
>hype crowd
Stupid and short-sighted but not malevolent, just annoying. Worst thing they ever did was jack-off.
>DBS
Sometimes annoying, whatever.
>DTVA
At least they're relevant in some tourneys. At this point MDfags may have surpassed them in annoying fandom.
>silent majority
Complaints about silent majority were always on a level weird to me. It's literally just the casual voterbase. Of course it exists and of course they will go with the popular and "obvious picks." You should expect it. Like some others have said it's an appropriate filter that still makes it a board tourney and not some circlejerk. There are annoying examples of perhaps 'unworthy' characters getting through because of them but ultimately I think it's better a winner lean more into silent majority than meta crowds. The first two year tourney's were basically ran with majority standard taste and the winners (sans Spinel) are still considered pretty universal and top-notch.

Remember /tnt/: no matter what happens the rest of this year, the one guarantee is that Ms. /co/ is going to be a mess in some form or another.

>>110572
>>110574
Will there ever be a tournament worse than Tag Team 2021?
>starts out of the blue after King ended, so stealth threads had to be made to notify people it was happening
>nominations and qualifiers take a week to get through
>Temp turns out to be an incompetent retard, so Dominos and Numnuts take over
>rigging every other round
>Numnuts reveals that Dominos is an RPer
>Dominos in turn reveals that Numnuts is an RPer and TourneyAnon with a new name
>Tourney has a mental breakdown and reveals he rigged almost the entire Elite Eight
>Temp comes back to take control back and says he's also an RPer
>finale ends up completely botched because Temp leaves the voting form open after the timer is over, causing an extra vote to be slipped in for the team that lost

>>110585
Wasn't Team Cognito the ONLY team that Numnuts didn't rig to at least some extent?

>>110570
>>110582
Scout is literally just a illiterate moron. Actual schizophrenic characters from the TF2 roster would be something like Pyro who straight up suffers from it and Soldier who is a lead posioned idiot and thought WW2 was still raging on 10 years after it had ended.

>>110546
Funny cause I remember back in the first 11 months of 2022 how King was constantly being wanked as the best tourney.

>>110587
Yeah, pretty sure he tried rigging them out actually. Ironic that the one E8 team that wasn't rigged was the one that won due to host incompetency.

>>110587
Most the non-E8 besides obviously his team were not rigged afaik

>>110590
I have dropped so many loads to Reagan, so I'm glad she won something.

>>110589
That's because it still is. It's the most HYPE! So glad both Batter AND Grimm won, and I can't wait for AM to join them this year! Schizo alliance ftw!

>>110585
>finale ends up completely botched because Temp leaves the voting form open after the timer is over
Reminder this happened because Temp was still using Windows fucking XP and his computer clock was behind several minutes.

>>110589
The Jack-off did serious damage to the tournament's reception.

>>110587
>>110590
>look up who lost to Team Cognito in Round 4
>it was Silver and Grievous
Damn, another plunderer iceberg!

>>110597
2023 being a spiritual 2021 repeat also didn't help, and kind of made 2021 retroactively looked on a little more sourly with a lot of people questioning the meta.

>>110599
It's like the tournaments were always meta or something.

>>110600
They were meta in their first years?

>>110598
Was this before or after Silver mindbroke numnuts?

>>110600
They weren't.

>>110603
>>110601
Popularity Contests/Tournaments are inherently Meta.

>>110585
Even though NSA is a really shit host, no one will never be as bad as numnuts. Like that fucker should be used as an example of how not to run a tournament.

>>110602
Before

>>110604
Another group of people I don't like:
>pedantic terminology cruncher fags

>>110606
>Silver broke Numnuts in revenge of trying to slander him
Kino

>>110605
If NSA had actually rigged then she would have had a case, but long as the other hosts are right then there's no arguing Numnuts is the worst. Even the Captain America guy apologized later on.

Since this used to be a controversial tournament opinions thread, here's mine. These general tournament threads should stop being made. No reason for these to exist and they're just removing traffic from the main tourney threads. Want to complain about AM's inevitable win this year? Go to the /v/ thread. Want to complain about Murder Drones? Go to the /co/ thread. If this thread didn't exist we'd already have a new /v/ thread with an actually good OP again.

>>110610
The rest of this is fair, but what's wrong with the Great Mighty Poo? That's at least fun and inoffensive.

Tom and Grievous are the stealth most significant winners. Tom was the first 'underdog' push and no surprise his tourney coincided with the first mass rpfest and establishment of thread personalities. Grievous was the first campaigner champ who's thread activity went over an established "obvious" powerhouse and his win signified and immediately preceded what was to be the /v/ 2021 tourney's.

>>110609
At least she wasn't a rigger. But god damn she fucking sucks at hosting. Thankfully, I think we've seen the end of her bullshit.
Speaking of host, who is this cumslut person?

>>110612
Yeah, I can see this. It's funny too how these are the most "controversial" winners from Mr. /co/, little as that matters considering it's solid track record.

Actually would be fun to make a tier list of how important each winner was in terms of affecting later tournaments.

>>110613
We don't know. People were speculating they might be Numnuts in disguise, but considering he's being given a test run as a third host in /cov/ I HOPE the other hosts at least gave him a decent passover. At least it's not like NSA where she had seniority held over all their heads.

>>110611
I just don't like literal piles of shit.

>>110614
Spinel and Batter are easy S-tiers.

>>110614
1. Tom/Grievous (low key altered the whole game for all board tourneys)
2. Spinel (tainted ms. /co probably forever, established fotm rules and heralded stats)
3. Recette/Batter (the overt gold-standard meta champs)
4. Tie between all the first year winners for basically setting the universal "standard," just as a background thing.
The rest in terms of altering the essential nature of the event and its discourse are relatively irrelevant.

>>110618
Recette didn't do shit. The winners were good before her and they're immediately good right after, and they have almost zero similarities with her.

>>110619
Actually that's fair. Still deserves a shout-out for being constantly bickered about and bashed in meta arguments though.

>>110619
Alliances started after her win therefore setting up the main event chain of reaction that changed /v/ tournaments forever.

>>110617
Spinel was actually my first thought outside of the obvious inaugural winners. The biggest argument against her is that a lot of her impact was specifically on Ms. /co/, but she's often associated with the tournament turning into one of the least well-regarded in terms of general results to come out of it. Add on her being the face of the FOTM rule and just changing a lot of general tournament expectations going forward.

Batter isn't AS high as Spinel for me, but he's going to rank high just for his direct affect on King of /v/ the following two years, and honestly just for his unprecedented amount of OC.

>>110618
I would actually argue Recette goes lower than Batter just because she wasn't as instrumental in Queen of /v/'s outcomes the next two years. 2021 in general was a fluke year, so even if the more traditional winner of Madotsuki had won there would have been some lingering effects going forward. Recette wasn't even the one to directly take down Midna despite being in the same part of the bracket. Still an important character, but I feel she's just Batter Lite at best.

>>110495
>TF2 comics aren’t /co/
>TF2 comics aren’t /v/
Pick one and only one.

>>110622
I wanted Spy in this past year after his nomination snub, but while I did at least enjoy the Alice disguise gags I'm going to shift my interest to other mercs next year.

>>110626
TF2 is /v/.
TF2 comics are /co/ if the characters originate from there otherwise it's semi-/v/.
Using comic canon for vidya characters, while I can't say is forbidden, is a murky tactic. Much like just using anime Lain as a campaign instead of vidya origin Lain.

>>110629
How can we embarrass Mr. Krabs again during /cov/?

>>110587
didn't the whole final shitstorm happen because the Felix The Cat team beat Tourney and Domino's team implying that team wasn't rigged for?

>>110631
Didn't you see that one post pointing out how fucking similar him.and Vince are, scat-fetish included?

>>110631
Wasn't the plan to pair him with Bowser?

>>110633
>Vince and Krabs can be nominated for Tag-Team because of Surf's Up 2

>>110633
Oh yeah, true. I forgot he has that Surf's Up "sequel" where he imagines sexually harassing a fish. Kek

>>110634
What's the relationship with this one? Not even sure if Bowser will make it, but still could imagine him having better partners.

>>110607
You're the biggest fag here

>>110639
>THEY'VE HYPED UP BIG UPDATES
Name them

>>110546
>ms. /co/
Waifufaggotry is super strong in the animation medium. /co/ is way worse than /v/ and /a/ is way worse than /co/. But at leasy half the reason is honestly probably Spinel jacking up the standards so early. There's probably something to it being the first tourney too, so being the big autism release valve and host retardation testing ground.
>king /v/
The converse kind of autism which is self-insert wankery and fanboyism inherent with /v/ male protags. Added on exacerbating it is the generally lower intelligence and higher impulsivity of /v/.

>>110639
Not vidya.

>>110622
Okay now what about the females of TF2
>Pauling, Administrator, Scout's Mom and Silvia Selbyen

>>110639
Don't care. They're called TF2 comics not TF2 games.

>>110636
>What's the relationship with this one? Not even sure if Bowser will make it, but still could imagine him having better partners.
It had to do with the Bowser farting video being posted during /v/illains and the SpongeBob leaks with Krabs shitting happening soon after.

Here's an interesting question: is King Harkinian more of a /v/ pick or a /co/ pick? Everyone talks about the CD-i cutscenes, but think about it. He's directly taken from the king in the DIC cartoons, and even in the CD-i games he's only featured in the animated cutscenes aside from a simple sprite appearance at the very end of Wand of Gamelon. That's not to mention that YTPs are more adjacent to animation overall.

>>110648
Ah. Fair enough then, but at that point the Vince pairing just seems even funnier.

>>110649
He's both

>>110642
rival private crew of The Plunders, The McMateys

>>110622
The pyro unironically has the most campaigning potential but is seem as bland and boring. It would've been funny to see pyroland versions of the characters throughout the tournament and the aftermath of said matches.

>>110657
The good thing about him its that he’s a blank slate character. He can be brutal and intimidating but also a princess that offers tea and sparkling and it would be entirely within character.

>>110658
>villains will always be one step further than the heroes
Not true because Mac and Doc beat multiple villains in blowouts last Co-Op. You're just mad that Optimus made 4th during Mr. last year, Starscream.

>>110645
So it’s /co/ then glad we could agree.

>170+ posts
>4 hour old thread
King 2023 and the NSA revelations really got us antsy, huh
Ms /co/ is going to get UGLY when this all boils over into an actual tourney setting

>>110665
Hey, if that's the worst part of next Ms. /co/ then it would still be one of the best iterations of that tournament.

>>110615
No. Sam and Coayy are not handing me the remote. They plan to test me to see if I can handle running a tournament. I don't think they're willing to hand over total control of the tournaments to some random anon after everything NSA has done. I don't blame them.
Since some of you are curious about me, I'll answer any questions you guys have.

>>110667
Well we'll see how it goes. Hopefully you're legit, considering we could admittedly use at least another host or two to bounce off right now.

The one question I got is that I believe you mentioned some other person you wanted to help as well? That caught me off-guard and already feel a little weary of that idea being blunt. Is that person sitting out now, possibly still thinking of getting involved, or am I just completely mistaken on this point? It's been a busy few months if it's the last point.

>>110665
This just shows how STRONG The Judge is.

>>110669
What are the odds at least one person has been turned on by this guy?

>>110670
I know a certain someone went on heat...

>>110668
>Hopefully you're legit
To ease some of your concerns, I don't care who wins. I just like seeing the funny interactions and the OCs
As for your question. Not too sure what you're preferring to. The long and short of it is I ask some people I know not related to /tnt/ to hep run the colors tournament. Eventually I saw Dill was interested in hosting, so I asked him for help.
I'm still planning to run the colors tournament at some point.

>>110675
Ah, fair enough then.

>>110672
Man, Krabs is so sexy, but of course, Roll is sexier.

>>110667
Whose side are you on? The Judge or Anton?

>>110678
Well, that's an easy one. I side with you just lost the game :)

>>110677
Ok Vince

>>110677
Ok Judge

>>110679
Thanks for drawing the house HHH.
*bows the fuck down*

>>110685
Ok, but how do I enter a door when it's locked?

>>110687
Raping it

>>110687
git gud

I propose The Judge to be one of the tourney judges for now on.

>>110698
Would he even judge in Lord of /lit/?

>>110701
I don't know why people try to push this when AM has had one of the most in-character and non-meta campaigns. A power of friendship push would make zero sense for him when he's objectively one of the most evil characters to be in the tournaments, if not the most evil.