/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>Monster Girl made it further than Omni-Man

Omni-Man? More like Um, no-Man!

I think the niggerbuff is perfectly fine.

>>108166
Bros... I thought /co/ hated lolis?

>>108170
I voted for the monster.

Optimus is the exact kind of underdog pick I like. He's not an underdog because of his obscurity or for meta reasons, he's just a really cool character that was overlooked until the year he finally got a good run.

Monika deserved to be Raped

I think a good measure of a winner is if they could repeat their run. Say, if they somehow lost in semi's or finals would they maintain traction beyond that year and its circumstances? Or were they just lucky flukes and flavor powers of the hour?
Characters like Jenny, Bravo, Dante, Midna? Absolutely.
Monarch, Zorak, Reimu, Garland? Harder to call. They would probably remain powerhouse staples but it's questionable if they'd ever win unless various factors fell a certain way again.
Spinel, Recette, Batter? Certainly not. Extremely contextual cases (rigging/fotm, or super meta boost of a specific tourney).

>>108181
>Reimu
>Harder to call.
I'm not even a 2hufag and I know Reimu is an easy winner for any year.

>>108181
Zorak is my favorite Mr. /co/ but you are insane if you think he is comparable at all to Reimu in terms of popularity.

>>108181
I see Garland falling out harder than the Batter.

>>108182
>>108183
Consider the scenario and reaction. Thing is the touhou smash of QoV 2020 could weaken her and put her in Marisa zone and many see Reimu a huge threat. Touhou's far from universally agreed on /v/.

>>108185
Maybe? But I don't think it would completely questionable for her to win in another year.

>>108186
It's possible bit I think it'd be far more difficult. I think of 2020 as a big concession year to the franchise and if Reimu somehow hadn't pulled it off at the end touhou would still go on to receive the wariness it does now.

>>108188
She could do it. I believe in her.

>>108194
Fair enough but the Scout supporters in 2023 was just experimenting and people like it. We might get something new again.

Insane Scout isn't funny and the fact that his campaign in 2023 was that and that alone was terrible, when I vote for Scout I vote for Scout not some psychopath that you need side tournaments to understand why he's insane, even worse when 2022 had a fuck ton of Scout supporters campaigning using actual Scout
BLU Scout was refreshing since he also acted like actual Scout

Luigi and Mr. Incredible should just stop getting people to fuck their wives and instead fuck each other

>>108197
True. Just another character trying to cash in by acting like a schizo and in turn, getting into the schizo alliance. I'm so tired of the same shit over and over and over.

>>108197
I agree actually. I was confused as to how positive the reception for schizo scout was. I guess it's some fun rp bullshit but saying it was a "good campaign" is nonsense since it wasn't really a scout campaign at all.

>>108197
>>108201
It's based off the TF2 comics. You just must not be a reader

I'm not really a fan of posts like >>108090 that paint AM as some unstoppable powerhouse, partly because it feels disingenuous and partly because I suspect it comes from a place of ignorance of how most anons vote. Some people have compared him to the kind of hype Fang got when she was returning in 2022 but I think the main difference here is that Fang was getting new content as of Primal S2, which is NOT going to happen with AM. We are also kind of forgetting Fang was very close to losing to Desiree r1.
If he really was the favorite to win the whole thing there wouldn't be a bunch of anons vocally against him everyday.

>>108203
>comics
This is for a vidya tournament.

>>108204
But he's right. AM has literally everything going for him except for new content. I seriously don't think anyone can beat him at this point.

Scout's campaign last year wasn't really that different how the TF2 mercs are usually portrayed in SFM animations, and his RPs were accurate in his mannerisms which I think is the most memorable and recognizable thing about his character (at least for most people, since not everyone has read the comics).
All in all, I thought it was quite good and funny.

>>108207
>SFM animations
This is for a vidya tournament.
Scouts comic and cartoon iterations sound suited for /co/.

>>108202
There, voting for Scout.

>>108200
Exactly.

>>108208
Scout is a mass murderer
[TF2] Scout Gameplay (100 Killstreak)

>>108206
Not really, most of those claims have already been argued against. New content is definitely the biggest factor going into character hype and AM doesn't have that.

>>108212
Okay but you haven't listed anyone that can beat him, and you can't. No one can.

>>108213
the rest of the Elite 8 of King 2022 minus Frost and Luigi, Wario, DudeGuy

>>108213
AM could be matched up against another front-runner with more appeal to the silent majority at the beginning of the tournament, like Mado vs Shantae.

By the way, while we are talking about him, do you anons think a lot of the stuff around NSA/OFA could have been averted had people picked up on the weird happenings surrounding AM in 2022? I have seen some act like anti-AMfag being the same dude who campaigned for Wesker was always open knowledge but I perfectly remember some anons in the threads would take her side or tried to downplay the whole thing after the fact. Not to mention the few people who would go on to point out the semifinals results were never shared got shat on, but then again that could have been NSA samefagging.

>>108220
All of those are just NSA samefagging.

>>108197
Scout is a illiterate killer for hire who is heavily implied to suffer from schizophrenia. There genuinely nothing out of character for him aside from being mentally sane.
Meet the Scout

>>108223
smells like NSA

>>108224
Nah, the user uses commas.
And I am pretty sure I am not NSA

>>108224
NSA has proven to be too dumb to deviate from her obnoxious typing style even when attempting to pass for a different person. I say this yet for some reason she was still the only host able to use SpiderAnon's scripts. Autism works in mysterious ways I guess.

>>108225
NSA btw

>>108225
Goes to show /v/ is bad at not falling for in-fighting or taking the bait.

>>108229
Nah she'd lose.

>>108212
It isn't, Fang had a similar semifinal placement and the idea that if Venture Bros didn't get cancelled a week before the tournament she would have won, given the vote difference was 7 votes
AM has the same stigma of a semifinal loss building momentum the next tournament, BUT this time it's that the hated host has basically been confirmed to have rigged him out because she was seething he beat her pick. That is the single biggest ammo I've ever seen for a character, and with how /v/ always picks schizo "spite" picks and wants to "spite" the former host AM is 95% certain of a crown

>>108236
>and with how /v/ always picks schizo "spite" picks
Wut.

>>108236
Except only a number of voters are aware of the NSA shit, most of the people who vote (silent majority) probably wouldn't even know who NightShiftAnon even is when asked.
Again, if AM truly was the favorite to win, maybe we wouldn't be having this same discussion almost everysingle day.

>>108236
I'm pretty sure the biggest ammo for a character is being banned for stupid reasons (Mega Man X)

>>108225
Some of you need to start thinking twice before deciding to press the "post" button.

Black Hat is going to qualify for Mr /co/ this year due to his new notoriety wanting people to meme him

>>108243
NSAbro btw

>>108243
That's understimating the intelligence of the average Mr. /co/ voter.

>>108213
Just get someone who's suffered more than him, but at the same time deserves to suffer more than him.

>>108248
Sneed, Pepe and Peter Griffin have regularly qualified

>>108252
The Nameless Onebros... It's our time.

>>108237
I honestly expect AM to just jobs now as opposed to people thinking he's taking entire thing with this opinion being shared around constantly

>>108256
Passion will triumph over spitevoting.

>>108258
True. That's why Phoenix will win this year. Look at how much passion is poured into those courtroom OCs.

>>108177
Travis Bickle and the Driver makes too much sense.

>>108258
but I'm passionate over spitevoting

>>108261
NSA…

Will RT related stuff get pity votes now that the company is dying?

>>108259
I hope I'm not the only Wright supporter this year since there's no way I'll be able to effectively campaign for him and my other main at the same time unless King slows down a ton.

>>108264
Not enough for anything significant to happen given none are contenders and it’ll be half a year prior before tournaments begin
At absolute most that one character from Rwby who people keep trying to push finally qualifies and promptly gets BTFO and memed on but that’s the extent

>>108264
I prefer YTP related stuff

>>108254
The Nameless One would be amazing to campaign for but WRPG characters who aren't from Morrowind or New Vegas never qualify for King.

>>108264
I didn't even know Rooster Teeth was still around tbdesu

>>108261
NSAbro…

>>108258
Wrong. Look at zoomer toons.

>>108271
Primalbros we're doomed

>>108198
but who's gonna fuck the husband in this scenario?

>>108273
their wives

>>108273
The winner fucks the looser - Van Darkholme

>>108272
Primal’s not a zoomer toon.

Is Treasure Island a zoomer toon?

>>108276
>fist episode aired in 2019
it's a zoomer toon

>>108278
It's Genndy therefore 2000's millenial wank. Prime audience is millenial /co/-core. This has always been the understanding when factoring primal. Zoomer toons are shows made by younger creators to cater to the new gen style and sensibility (Vivzie, DTVA, MD, SU).

>>108280
>2000's
that's early zoomer

>>108165
No one knows what the word zoomer actually means.

>>108253
Sneed was one Simpsons joke that got a ton of memes, but Pepe is an unofficial site mascot, while Peter Griffin and Family Guy are popular and the precursor to most modern adult animation. It would be weirder if they didn't qualify.

>>108281
>>108282
Everyone knows what's basically always been meant by it in context of discussions. People wanna act like daft cunts about it lately though.

>Controversial Tournament Opinions
>Half of the thread is filled with funpost

Made in 90's/2000's and popular among youth in 90's/2000's = millenial.
Made in 2010+ and popular among youth in 2010's+ (basically heralded by Adventure Time) = zoomer.
Seems like the commonly used division. There is a pretty strong split in how these shows are perceived and taken on /co/. Doubly so when discussing tourney perceptions and performances. There was a change in industry and approach to toons in humor/style/story ect and the audience receptive to it.
Genndy and primal can be argued to be honorary millenial since it's coming from the golden boy of that era and wanked by that crowd.
>but ackshually
If you really want to be a stickler about specific generational splits that are already arbitrary in the first place you may as well start using the term zillenial.

>>108287
This really just became a tournament general.

>>108289
Then changed the name to tournament general

>>108291
thank you for actually staying on topic

>>108292
Far from it iToddler.

>>108291
Based opinion honestly the fact people sperg out at the possibility of a popular character losing to a lesser known one is ridiculous.

>>108291
I think what her run represents has changed. It's true she's still the queen of underdogs and campoon. But all that carries the connotation of heavy meta faggotry which I think deservedly is getting more scrutiny. aerd turning out to be some stealth rape lolifag just kind of made it and the idea of meta-heavy wins worse since she was largely dependent on that thread personality.
From a thread engagement and in the moment interesting perspective I can see how she's a good winner. I just think as a hindsight thing she's very 'unfitting.' It's like the /pw/ equivalent of a company conceding and briefly giving a small-time smark crowd favorite who draws small dimes the belt and everyone kind of wondering what the fuck was going on there in the future. And being 'fitting' doesn't necessarily mean your criteria. You bring up being big and genre defining but Grimm wasn't those things and he doesn't get trashed. He's just very /v/-core and fitting for king of /v/.

>>108295
Reminds me of the guy who was complaining about a month ago how King /v/ needs more "normal winners", dude these are 4chan tournaments, who the fuck cares what's outwardly considered "normal" or more popular.

>>108296
Grimm is fitting to King of /v/ because BlackSouls is an incredibly popular series on /v/ AT THE MOMENT.

>>108298
Winner at a popularity peak is sensible and fitting. Compare Recette who was only -arguably- popular 15 years ago.

>>108296
> I just think as a hindsight thing she's very 'unfitting.' It's like the /pw/ equivalent of a company conceding and briefly giving a small-time smark crowd favorite who draws small dimes the belt and everyone kind of wondering what the fuck was going on there in the future.
I never understood this. What kind of criteria even is this, "a winner just don't look right next to other winners". Isn't comparing winners and trying to tailor them all to some single standard meta faggotry within of itself, on a macro level?

>>108299
I'm not the Recette anon, what I am saying is that the view on Grimm as a winner might change depending on how the reception to Black Souls on /v/ at large evolves (even if he has already won at his popularity peak).

>>108300
Yes but it's characters we like and not characters like Alex.

>>108296
Don't forget her campaign being carried by a pedophile

Why would we want "normal" winners in a 4chan tournament? If that was the case how come Mario hasn't won?

>>108306
Because the people arguing in favor of that want their own popular and more mainstream picks to win.

>>108300
It's just observations. Super duper meta underdog winner obviously look out of place among more popular and "obvious" picks. It may become meta if people start voting with that standard as an influence. "Obvious" popular winners are assumingly winning for the reasons that make them popular and obvious in the first place or because they're just more well known, not because of some anti-meta meta.

>>108304
You mean Aerd? We're trying to distance Recette from that piece of shit.

Tourneys will forever be meta and I'm tired of people trying to justify their metafagging.

>>108310
I mean, that's the nature of tournaments. Some picks will stand out more compared to others because of the unpredictability of what happens each year. There's nothing wrong with that. Someone back in last year's King said part of the tournaments' charm is the participation and being able to influence them in real-time. Circumstances like FOTM or pity can be annoying, but a character winning because they had a good campaign that just happened to get traction that year is probably the least egregious of these additional circumstances.

>>108314
Sure but shouldn't lead to dumpy winners either.

>>108309
Ms. people have a reason for grievance. The tourney's second year got fucked with a blatant bullshit winner and never recovered. The "classic" line-up that should've won 2019 then got psyopped to death. There hasn't been a widely agreeable uncontroversial winner since fucking 2018. A "classic" winner at this point is called for.

>>108229
Doesn't change that she'd get touhou heat. It's a good thing she did win an early though, cause I could see her being a major drama point if she was recurring.

>>108316
Wuya was the most "classic" winner since Jenny and people still gave her shit, and it was before the NSA shit came out so there's not even that excuse.
people will never be satisfied because it's not really about having a "classic" winner, it's about their favorite winning.I say fuck 'em.

>>108318
Wuya and Eris were specifically pitted against two of THE most classic girls in semis. That alone makes them look like underdogs in comparison.

Btw Ms. semis this year were better than Mr. semis. Just talking about the round alone, but it was really hype for how thematic on a meta level it ended up being. Toph and Raven should've won
In Mr. the only one I was really passionate for by semis left was Optimus, Jack and Skeletor were ok but lacked in presence this year, and I don't care for Zim.

>>108318
I don't get why there's so much revisionism around Wuya. I was one of the few people who tried to argue in her favor (without being one of her campaigners, mind you) when everyone else thought she was a lukewarm win at best. She went from being an "OK" winner to an openly hated one.

>>108318
>people still gave her shit, and it was before the NSA shit came out so there's not even that excuse.
Not really? Wuya's biggest issue at the time was her and Eris being the campaigner finale preferred over the even bigger "classics" (Toph/Raven), but she was generally regarded as the most all around agreeable since Jenny, at least from my memory.

>>108318
This is revisionism, Wuya was regarded as an alright winner by most before NSA got outed.

>>108322
I wouldn't exactly say "people gave her shit" like that other anon, but yes, Wuya was regarded as alright *at best*, and I will admit there was a palpable air of disappointment at the time. Maybe because people would have preferred for Toph to win instead, maybe because the reveal was butched by NSA's shenanigans, maybe a combination of both factors.

I think characters from zoomer toons should do well this year. Like, multiple Elite 8 members well.

>>108321
I mean she was rigged by the host what do you expect, obviously people are going to look back on her run with that knowledge and judge her for it
Even when she won I'd argue Wuya was on the same level as Betty as an "ok" winner, the difference is Betty was the least bad choice over the other semi-finalists whereas the just ok Wuya won over hyped fan favorites like Toph or hell even Eris. Now that we know she was rigged at the expense of said fan favorites it's not a surprise people are going to look back on her entire run with a sour taste in their mouths.

Mrs 2021 and Queen 2021 had the same final except the outcomes are reversed

>>108302
Obviously, every winner would look weak next to a chad like Alex.

>>108329
>Even when she won I'd argue Wuya was on the same level as Betty as an "ok" winner
Yeah, that's what I'm saying! Even back then most people thought Wuya was just OK.

Betty was the best Ms /co/ winner and you all lucked into her unintentionally

>>108331
…The Lion

>>108334
... right before Alex Yiik wins King this year.

>>108336
's barred from /v/

Tinkerbell would've been a pretty good winner if she beat Eris

Battler should've crown stealed

Dr. Livesey shouldn't get the crown or E8 because he works better as Mr. /co/lympus' recurring comic relief character (not to be confused with jobber)

>>108342
Go tell that to his supporters.

>>108342
He’s SHIT and FINISHED anyway after tag team

>>108268
Gothicbros... we aren't Gomez approved...

>>108340
We don't need Disney characters doing well. We're spitevoting against them.

>>108353
Nigger you are fucking terrible at falseflagging.

>>108353
Except Jafar

Rank the semifinalists (no repeats)
>Toph, Kim Possible, Frankie, Shego, Hilda, Sara Bellum, Chel, Nicole
>Jack, JJJ, Courage, Wallace, Hugh Neutron, Aku, Marvin, Optimus Prime
>Maya Fey, 2B, Marisa, Roll, GLaDOS, Alipheese, Bayonetta
>Kiryu, Phoenix Wright, Travis, Vergil, Morshu, JC Denton, AM, John Ward, Demi-Fiend

>>108344
Based honestly

>>108356
>Ms.
Toph > Chel > Kim Possible > Frankie > Shego > Sara Bellum > Nicole > Hilda
>Mr.
Jack > Courage > Marvin > Optimus > JJJ > Aku > Wallace > Hugh Neutron
>Queen
GLaDOS > Maya Fey > Alipheese > Marisa > Roll > Bayonetta > 2B
>King
Phoenix Wright > John Ward > AM > Travis > Kiryu > Demi-Fiend > JC > Vergil > Morshu
Of these King has the best semi-finalists lineup by far, I could rearrange those characters in almost any order and it would still feel right (you could ask me again an hour from now and i'd probably give you a different placement for each of them, except morshu who's pretty clearly the weakest link). Unsurprisingly Ms. has the worst, Mr.'s is pretty solid all around, and Queen's is kind of a mixed bag.

>>108360
There was no Morshu but he'd be bottom tier btw.

No chart, but I guess rank the quarterfinalists too
>Helen Parr, Harley Quinn, Black Canary, Velma, Azula, Pearl, Peridot, EVE, Jucika, Muriel, Lord Dominator, Miss Pauling, Brisby, Nani, ENA, Alex, Clover
>Shaggy, Superman, Kuzco, Bugs, Batman, Doofenshmirtz, WALL-E, Eustace, Mr. Incredible, Iroh, Squidward, Max, Xavier, SpongeBob, Dale, Farquaad
>Peach, Shantae, Cirno, Chun-Li, Morrigan, Aigis, Alice, Ashley (Wario), Ranni, Malon, Ashley Graham, Taokaka
>Solid Snake, Heavy, Duke Nukem, Wario, Jetstream Sam, Edgeworth, Scout, Leon, Fuhrer/Nyarly, Wesker, Luigi, Rayman

^Rage bait above me^

might be controversial since I'm an ex-host but there isn't a winner I don't like, even spinel

>>108365
Based Balls not giving a shit

>>108362
A
Brisby, Shaggy, Superman, Kuzco, Bugs, Batman, Solid Snake, Wario
B
Harley, Azula, Dominator, Doof, WALL-E, Xavier, Dale, Sponegebob, Peach, Shantae, Alice, Heavy, Duke
C
Velma, EVE, Alex, Clover, Eustace, Mr. Incredible, Iroh, Squidward, Max, Farquaad, Chun-Li, Morrigan, Aigis, Ashley, Ranni, Taokaka, Sam, Edgeworth, Scout, Leon, Luigi
D
Helen, Muriel, ENA, Cirno, Malon, Ashley Graham, Nyarly, Wesker, Rayman
F
Black Canary, Pearl, Peridot, Jucika, Pauling, Nani

Ms. has by far the worst line-up.

>>108368
Is Miss Pauling really that bad?

What about a tierlist about couples?

>>108372
Skeletor and Loona take the crown.

>>108372
Grievous x Betty

>>108372
Jenny/Johnny is way too perfect

>>108372
Goku x Brisby is at the top

>>108381
Yeah, I'm thinking this is based

>>108372
Dante and Reimu in Smokin' Sexy Style tier

Wasn't there also a tier list for the tournaments themselves?

>>108390
Oh and Morshu probably would've gone to C. He's a funny guy. But not THAT funny.

>>108390
Bayonetta would be a fine winner but absolutely not in 2023 unless you want Wuya 2.0
Though I really agree on Hugh, his success made no sense to me at the time and it makes no sense to me now. He's not even a bad pick necessarily he's just confusing as to how he did so well, was there a Hugh Neutron meme circulating in 2020 that I missed or something?

>>108390
Roll's success shouldn't be that weird.

>>108394
Unfortunately.

>>108394
If Rollfags could stop killing their campaigns with lolifagging her success wouldn’t be weird at all.

>>108397
I feel bad for the spritefag who legitimately just likes Roll and Megaman and wanted to give her a genuine campaign but ended up getting lumped in with "Roll is on heat!/Roll is so sexy bros" lolifags and Augie autism

>>108397
>killing their campaigns with lolifagging
That's the only thing people care about with this character.

>>108398
I respect that anon but one person can't salvage a character's run that's blatantly fueled by lolifags.

So... uh... /dbs/...

>>108402
This will either make them stronger or weaker

Dragon Kikes are SHIT and FINISHED

>>108401
Other than Jenny being a few tiers low I'd call this perfectly understandable.

>>108405
Unironically isn't that the end of the series? Or the canon part at least?

Roll deserves her powerhouse status. She really is that sexy.

>>108397
Roll's power comes from being loli and is inseperable. She's the premier lolifag pick.
And there's nothing actually wrong with that, quit being fags.

>>108415
>t. Judge Holden

>>108419
I'm not the Judge. She deserves sweet and consensual poundings.

>>108420
Can't rape someone on heat anyways.

>>108413
I dunno, Teenage robot just never really resonated with me and I absolutely hate most JRPGs.
But Tom and Jerry is awesome, I watched the shit out of that show when I was a kid and I firmly believe it's the absolute pinnacle of cartoon slapstick. I always liked Tom better anyway, that little shit Jerry deserves what's coming to him in most episodes anyway

>>108422
>she's the one doing the raping