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King of /v/‘s elites are generally great, but the tournament’s homogeny is starting to wear a little thin compared to the others.
>>103504
/co/ is way too harsh on newer toons. SU faggotry aside which doesn't really count they deserved at least a few E8 reps both for having some genuinely good characters, having passionate fans, and being significant to the board. Weird as /v/ doesn't seem to have this kind of hangup.
>>103509
Most of the time it seems to just pertain to the winners, especially post-Batter. I mean the whole slate.
I don't care about TFR intermingling during King of /v/ and frankly see its influence as a detriment. It doesn’t help that some TFRfags are Discordfaggots, but I already disliked them as posters before we knew that.
Tournament wins should be based off the character's personality, legacy, quality of content, and overall impact on the board and medium, not remotely on some random autist roleplaying, making art, smearing other campaigners, mass spamming the board, or other types of irrelevant campaign content in the moment of the round threads
That's what NSA wanted tournaments to turn into and how we get poor winners reflecting on prior years
>>103535
I never heard anyone want a tournament winner to be based on some random autist roleplaying, making art, smearing other campaigners, mass spamming the board, or other types of irrelevant campaign content in the moment of the round threads but you do you buddy.
>>103535
This is unironically why I don't give a fuck if a character is silent for as long as I know it comes from great source material.
Your mediocre cartoon/vidya ass isn't going to beat a well-established character in the medium just because you had a campaign and a few vocal people.
Campaigns in the main tournaments only play two roles (This is my unpopular opinion)
>Tie Breakers
>Deciders on a match you're neutral towards
I don't give a shit that you gave your sweat and blood on a masterpiece of art. If my main is against yours I am going to vote for my main. Simple as.
I have nothing against you, I will probably vote for your main if they're against someone that I don't particularly care for or have no idea but as soon as they're against mine, I am going to vote for my mains. People for some reason get uppity when they hear this but this isn't being aggressive or insulting. I am genuinely just telling you that I am voting for who I want to win, not who I am seeing get the most art.
Campaigns being the main deciders on how the matches should play out is how we got retards like NSA running this shit.
>>103535
This. It should really be common sense that a campaigns primary purpose is basically swaying close calls and proving why a character is great. It shouldn't become the reason to vote itself. People got waaay too pissy and sensitive about being "silent" now. Meta and thread autism is acceptable for small side stuff, which is basically the purpose of /tnt/, but main tourneys should always mainly be about straight up best and fitting character. It's the big retrospective flaw about /v/ 2021 despite how much it was wanked at the time. You can make a case every other winner at least deserved it on likability and legacy unrelated to tourney's (or in Spinel's case cause of the perfect timing). /v/ 2021 felt way more skewed towards tourney meta alone though. I don't even dislike Batter but it's questionable that he should've been a king, and definitely not Recette lol.
>>103535
I agree. Now every time I see a character gets a tryhard campaign, especially if they get one in the early rounds, they're definitely going to get spitevoted out.
A character should not have his reputation ruined or be forever spitevoted just because one retard gave it a bad image.
Like Shakaranon outing himself or Alastorfag being revealed as Dominos/Ghost, it doesn't mean that those two characters should forever be associated with those and be spitevoted. They sometimes are great characters (can't speak for the latter) and they genuinely deserve a vote from the media they come form.
>>103577
The main problem with those examples is they were never gonna do well in the first place. Shakara had only like 5 votes outside of the riggerfag.
>>103504
Fang is genuinely the best /co/ winner.
>OC and campaign powerhouse
>beloved character from a show that’s pretty much agreed to be great ending aside
>a fucking dinosaur
Every time I see someone complaining about her it’s some meta reason that doesn’t fucking matter, like how Genndy already had a character who won. Who gives a shit.
>>103585
>saying you don't like the show's shitty ending or don't like how she looks are meta reasons
Insane cope.
>>103585
When I see hate towards Fang, I get reminded of the hate John Silver got during Mr. /co/ 2023. To this day I am still trying to get what made people despise Silver so much as to give him "CAMPOONER" name when he doesn't even do that good in the first place and the silverfag isn't even obnoxious.
>>103588
It's literally just some simpleton Disneyfag (or so he claims) who doesn't understand why a Treasure Island character is so well-received here.
>>103504
Batter is genuinely the best /v/ winner
>OC and campaign powerhouse
>beloved character from a game that’s pretty much agreed to be great
>literally fucking me
Every time I see someone complaining about him it’s some meta reason that doesn’t fucking matter, like how future winners are schizo alliance characters. Who gives a shit.
>>103577
Agreed to an extent, it depends how minor the infraction is. Like with Alastor, the issue is if they never campaigned for them they might never have qualified, but I'm not going to hold something like "a host for a side tournament roleplayed as the character before" against them entirely. For them the shittier thing is saying they were quitting then sneaking into major tournament leadership without telling anyone, but nothing to do with Alastor. I hold nothing against them when voting.
Now someone like Captain America is ruined forever because the original Mr /co/ host rigged them. Black Hat is ruined forever because NSA likely rigged them and spited against characters that beat him. Livesey is questionable because NSA intentionally rigged a character out to give him a slot but he easily can be redeemed. It honestly varies, but hosts rigging for their pet favorite usually is the one that will excommunicate them forever. You can see four examples how that varies
>>103596
Ahcksually we have no records of NSA spitting characters who beat Black Hat. The instances where that did happen involved Wesker and Bayonetta in the /v/ torneys.
>>103577
I disagree. A character should have their reputation forever ruined because of one retard, especially if that one retard was responsible for most of the campaigning. Biggest example is Recette. That's why solo campaigning should not be encouraged. If you ever make a mistake, then say goodbye to the chances of your character doing well.
>>103600
Quite a few people say Donald gets spited against for beating Black Hat hard in 2021. That's also the only 100% confirmed time we know NSA was smearing a character in a tournament thread, and then the following results have people question them (losing to Marvin by a close 10 votes, then being given very hard matchups retaliative to a higher seed for 2022 and 2023 including the duck match in round 2)
>>103595
The fact that she’s a dinosaur is part of why she’s great. I will always vote for animals over anthropomorphic characters
>>103614
What you are describing is speculation for the most part. The alleged instance of NSA smearing Donald wasn't even smearing really, that just seemed like run of the mill tournament banter to me. On the other hand NSA had full-blown meltdowns that lasted for months over those other two /v/ characters losing.
T. Rex deserved to win /an/lympics
>>103504
Meme images don't matter when voting if your character loses to a niggerbuffed character that's indicative of the quality of said character losing.
>>103504
Crown Steals should happen and I'm tired of you faggots getting pissy over that possibility.
I only vote for characters with campaigns and if they don't have any I vote for whichever I like more.
i know there is more to comics than capeshit, but if we're going by board representation the first comic winner should be capeshit because that's what 90% of comic discussion on /co/ is about.
>>103822
Losers Bracket should just be fucking thrown out of the window as soon as we get rid of NSA
>>103822
Crown steals are retarded. i don't know how anyone thinks it's a good idea to even attempt beyond wanting more chaos and controversy type of fun. Besides extending the tourney to more exhausting lengths, testing the mods, and the general lower quality and activity those threads will probably have, there's no way a somehow successful crown steal is gonna not cause a bunch of shitflinging for years and ruin the characters involved.
>>103925
Crown steals should stay just in case we get another recette.
>>103929
No, if a tournament that has 1,000+ people votes for another Recette than you're gonna get another Recette, you dig your own grave don't try to escape at the last second like a little bitch.
>>103934
I disagree if a more deserving character makes it through the losers bracket they deserve a second chance.
>>103929
It would honestly be better to just swallow another Recette. Crown stealing would just make a big smear on whoever won and the tourney as a whole.
>>103938
If a more deserving character makes it through the loser's bracket and pulls off a crown steal they will automatically become Recette tier and will never be able to live down the circumstances behind their win.
>>103943
>I voted against the character and he still won
>CROWN STEAL NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
>>103822
Crown steals are pointless wastes of time that either end with a blowout as we keep seeing, or will cause heavy spitevoting because people will think it's funny and/or are just salty. The time used could be for more Afterparty time or 256 for /v/.
Only "crown steal" that's happening is everyone taking NSA's role as host of this shit lmao
>>103504
The entire aspect of "tournaments" as a whole are fucking stupid and should've just been a normal popularity poll like everything else.
You guys shit on metavoting and whatnot then proceed to partake in monthly events with a format that basically encourage it. XJ9 is highly regarded as the best winner ever yet she does not represent her board in the slightest. If these were truly accurate then /v/'s kings would be Bridget, Abby and Larry the Bird from Twitter
>>103588
He became the known "campooner" because the Plunderers became the poster child for the most prominent campaigners with Zorak's win, and John became the most prominent member remaining since Ruber/Chris fell off
A decent chunk of backlash seems to be for campaigning overtaking tournaments and their results, emphasized by Zorak going from not qualifying to round 1 blowout to suddenly winning and now that he's retired John just takes the blowback for that. Other aspect is people thinking he's consistently pushing above his weight and wouldn't be close to the top 128 without people voting for the campaign when many notable characters have never qualified once for a tourney. Again, Ruber fell out of favor and that's with the wide board memes of him so I think again John takes all the blows for being the one real remaining Plunderer
>>103976
Tournaments as a whole wouldn't have not gone this wild and followed the way they have if it wasn't for Spinel and Random Cartoon.
Like it or not but Spinel invented modern tournament culture, and tournaments very well could have had low interest and died out entirely past 2019/2020 if Spinel didn't happen
I don't think legacy or character should matter on /tnt/ but outside of it. I don't want shit to homogenize into seeing the same shit win. I actually want winners with interesting source material or characters win here. I don't care if you prefer your popular vote for existing in a popular game. I want to see more good art and effort used instead of jerking off the same I like X I hate Y etc... shit I keep seeing.
>>103976
>XJ9 is highly regarded as the best winner ever yet she does not represent her board in the slightest.
I don't think you know what you're talking about m8.
>>103997
Spinel's influence is pretty much relegated to making ms. /co/ being shit. I think Mr. and /v/ develop on their own lines. If you want to point to a specific character that started meta culture or whatever then it's probably Grievous, as he was the first campaigner heavy victor and first one to win over a more generally popular finalist, and then /v/ a month alter followed suit. But I think /v/ still develops mostly or almost entirely independently of /co/ so the meta nature of that years tourneys are probably just a natural result of years of tourneys becoming more of a /general/ in nature.
>>103997
>"Tournaments as a whole wouldn't have not gone this wild and followed the way they have if"
Tournaments ARE THE PROBLEM
>>104034
Any notable drawfags or campaigners that get over praised?
>>104035
Hexanon. Not because they're bad drawfags or not a savant but because the character they choose to throw giga support behind is garbage and ensures they waste their franchise slot again every year.
>>104024
Don't know why you're here why you think that but I'm telling you that's the moment the genie was put out of the bottle and it isn't getting put back in
RPing is shit if it's out of character especially for one that doesn't say much in their original source.
>>104038
you could do a lot worse than hex when it comes to pokegirls. i'd rather have her over shit like Lillie or May.
>>104035
Warioanon and Hexanon characters they support is typically guaranteed to do well because of them being behind the character and not the character themselves.
>>104040
Felt this way about Doomguy. Don't really like the character but love the games. The comics are shit.
>>104044
>you could do a lot worse than hex
Can you really? Lillie and May, while maybe boring, are at least prominent characters with major roles. Hex is a literal background who that got big because of porn and people have to make shit up to give her any more character.
>>104038
I agree that Hexfag drawing "le funny off-model porn grill xd" is fucking retarded, but
>ensures they waste their franchise slot again every year
is not true, because even if Hexfag wasn't drawing her, she'd have a high chance at getting in anyway. Plus, even if Hex Maniac didn't exist at all, every Pokémon slot is wasted every time.
>>104044
Old Rod-tier bait
>>104048
>>104051
they're both shit. May is the worst rival in the entire series barring the Kalos faggots. and babysitting Lillie all game is a fucking chore. Sun and Moon aren't pokemon games, they're Lillie games, because the entire story revolves around her and the player is nothing but an attack dog who has to fight all of her battles because she's a fucking pussy.
an NPC with no personality is genuinely, unironically better than those two by mere virtue of not pissing me off.
>>104035
Not me.
>>104035
Any notable drawfags or campaigners that get over hated?
>>104079
Anyone who NSA presumably supported
Amphibiansfags
HTFfags though they never qualify but are always there
Scornguy though he's not around anymore (his art was amazing but his support was annoying)
>>104019
Before Spinel tournaments had barely enough characters qualifying for a 128 seed tournament (it was around 150 qualified characters), votes were mid-tier in size, and they were barely brought up off-season
Spinel then comes and now we get 1000 characters minimum and 4x the amount of votes each tournament. And /tnt/ level discussion off-season
>>103504
Might not be controversial on /tnt/ but fuck it. Batter should have never won. OFF is a good game and all, but Batter is such a perplexing win. The only way ANYONE ever justifies it is going "you had to be there". That's it? He won over Eggman because of the hype of the moment? I don't like it.
If Eggman won, the trio of Eggman/Jack/Grimm would've been much better. Grimm is a true /v/ winner and there wouldn't be the needless shitflinging over schizo alliances or his Shonen anime finale (which is actually in character for him unlike Batter). People from the outside looking in would understand Jack Garland easily and understand Grimm if they knew or were told how Black Souls is popular on /v/. Nobody would understand how Batter beat Dr. fucking Eggman.
I don't care if Batter's campaign was "kino" and "cinema". A character from a game that isn't particularily iconic or beloved on /v/ shouldn't be defeating an iconic and beloved character because of autism. A campaign that was out of character at multiple points, no less.
>>104107
/v/ 2021 does kind of feel like a shift in timelines and the intended winners were Mado and Eggman.
>>104107
Oh yeah, and Eggman would've been perfect considering his previous history of being cucked twice by Dante, and being the winner following him. But nope, we needed our hype underdog win.
>>104116
Over Frost? The right guy won. But overall that year could've went better to AM/JC/Phoenix/Travis.
>>104119
Frost wouldn't have been the best winner that year, only getting to the finals because of the dumbass Jack-off memes, but he would still have been a better winner than Garland
>>104107
Grimm is in the same winner category as Racette since they're 4chan games that would get lost in time. It's just a hgame that pretends to be smarter than it actually is with chicken scratch effort for art.
FARTS should have at least one winner for Ms /co/ by now and it's /v/-tier autism that they are being blocked despite being obvious candidates
FARTS even itself is a psyop by the campaign-spite schizo crowd as it was started by the Megaman RPer to cause spiting and chaos against them, and that has led to weaker winners
>>104123
Nah, there's better picks from SMT to win than Jack Frost. He's great as a mascot, but not so much as a tournament winner in my eyes. Know this is the controversial opinions thread, but that's my take on the matter.
I do somewhat get where >>104119 is coming from here. I don't mind Garland winning because he's about as good as it comes from more meme-centric characters, but he really did disrupt that entire year's tournament. Could have easily been the first one to retire a former elite in King otherwise with how it went.
>>104040
>>104047
To be honest, Doomguy is kind of a special case. He is quite literally silent and never speaks. That limits the options for campaigning and roleplaying to very big degree if we are to be bound within 100% character.
At that point, giving him a voice doesn’t really break character as much as literally turning his personality upside down would. He is an angry but well-composed character who LOATHES demons. Breaking character is something like making him fall in love with fucking Charlie.
>>104126
>he's about as good as it comes from more meme-centric characters
That's the thing, Garland was just a giant meme circlejerk, the funny "kill chaos!" and "bullshit." man! "Bro, let's stick pngs on a png of him, that's gonna be so kinoooooooooooo!". "Wait, we could have a Jack-off if we vote for Jack Frost, let's vote for him lol!!!"
Most people didn't even play his shit game, Frost is at least a decent pick for his series.
I think hated characters shouldn't be shat on for making it past round one or two.
>>104124
With posts like this popping up every now and then I can’t help but wonder if he’s going to age as poorly as Recette.
>>104124
This. Give it a few years and he'll be even more hated than Batter. People will be like "Batter already won, Grimm is just the same shit again." and respect Batter more because he's the OG underdog winner.
Characters shouldn't become hated and villainized because they make it far silently. The shit with characters like Tifa, 2B, and Kiryu becoming bad characters that don't deserve votes is dumb and autistic.
>>104132
They are literally the worst characters to qualify, because even a shit character that is silent just gets voted out and everyone forgets about him. Shit like the Icon of Sin and King Boo get in and gets a shit ton of attention with their funposts even after they lost, making people talk about garbage instead of all the better characters that are still in. I fucking hate that that faggot came here to spam his shit and that retards are feeding him.
Good time to discuss "underdogs"
They ran their course, maybe every 3 or so years there should be an underdog with a deep run it feels like people try to force it for the effect more then sincere surprise.
This is for every tournament, seems to have started with 2021 when Betty just snuck out from all the spiting and then after every single tournament wanted their specific underdog winner, which happened for each one since but in far more exaggerated fashion (like 80-100 seeds winning a whole tournament)
It doesn't have the same luster when there's one every single year and especially with randomized brackets (which luckily will likely go away with NSA being forced out), it needs to feel special.
I don't care if your character speaks 1 billion words or is le tragic, if their source is shit I'm not voting for them. That's all.
>>104155
How many jobber meme characters does /v/ have?
The only one for /co/ is Puss and that's only because he was expected to be E8 potential then barely qualified even when PIB got split from Shrek for 3 character rule then got blown out round 1
Feels like /v/ has characters who campaign specifically to lose round 1 and not as an effect from some unexpected result
>>104152
I've played Recettear and Black Souls 1 and 2.
With confidence I can say that Recettear was one of the most mediocre games I've ever laid eyes upon and is the sole reason why I regret voting for Recette because I thought she came from a game that's worth playing.
I played Black Souls 1 and 2 in Queen /v/ 2023 and at that time I didn't give a shit about BS games but after trying them I actually became hooked and interested in it. It is why Grimm became my main and I know fully well with 100% reason why I voted for him.
To note, I don't consider Batter a good winner not a bad one either and I've played OFF.
>>104149
Betty couldn't be an underdog cause her whole E8 was "underdogs". Grievous was more like the first proper underdog.
I think underdogs would be fine but not for early years. Meta went too fast. Someone like Recette probably goes over better winning like the 7th year.
>>104165
Grievous was seed #16 the year he one there's zero way he could be considered an underdog
>>104169
Relative to his competition he basically was. There was somewhat of a narrative he was the campaigner favorite and just needed the traction and right year.
>>104155
/v/ is filled with off-topic funposting retards, /v/ is the general problem.
/V/ tournaments are like Soccer/Superbowl games and other tournaments are more like WNBA games
>>104161
I haven't actually played any of those I just know they're shit and Eggman should've won.
>>104200
Kek, /co/ are the only ones that matters, /v/ is irrelevant NSA tier shit the board doesn't even care about (if they did they wouldn't vote crown steal)
All tournies are like Wrestlemania cause they're all fake fights booked by the script (rigged by the host).
>>104149
Characters like Zorak and Optimus are the golden standard of underdogs for me. They're great picks in their own merits that just happen to get overlooked until they finally have that one good run.
Every "underdog" people talk about aren't even true underdogs.
>>104255
''''true'''' underdogs will never even qualify cause they are bumfuck nobodies.
>>104304
Fuck bracket context just because a character is low seed does not make them an underdog.
>>104314
Yes it does... in the bracket context.
You can't just "fuck bracket context", that's the framework these discussions have always had.
>>104317
Bracket context is meaningless if for example let's say hank hill has low seed would you still aay he's an underdog?
>>104327
>if for example *someone that will never happen* would you still aay he's an underdog?
He would be an underdog if it did happen btw.
>>104327
Hank doesn't get low seeds. And if he did using bracket historical context would tell you he's not an underdog.
>>104333
if your only reason for liking a character is coom then they don't deserve to be voted for.
>>104333
This. If two characters I don't know are going up against each other, I'm gonna vote for the one with better porn. I could not care less about your desperate campaigns.
>>104164
Since we were also talking about Garland, it's important to remember the Black Souls Discord led to the leaking of a series of messages where a named campaigner pretty much confirmed Garland supporters communicated and were organizing their campaign outside of 4chan, most likely in another Discord server.
>>104164
>Schizo alliance is full of riggers
EggGODS don't resort to such lows. Sadly, it's why he's lost twice by now, rigger schizophrenia is too powerful.
>>104357
True. They instead resort to things that aren't in the games like memes and YTPs.
Why is this one fag so mindbroken by Eggman, he keeps complaining about YTPs.
>>104119
nah it should've been Phoenix or Travis, AM would've been controversial due to the whole not being a video game character thing and JC was mostly silent that year outside of Froganon which was pretty cool of him
>>104367
Unironically nobody cares about the point of AM being originally /lit/ except for when it's convenient to bring up as a cover for the actual reasons someone might not like him. This is literally something NSA did during Ko/v/ 2022.
>AMfags are getting uppity because we don't like their non-vidya pick
>>104404
Fair enough to not like him, but what is the point of endlessly arguing over his legitimacy as a vidya character when there already exist counterarguments to that claim and 9 out of 10 times it has nothing to do with the reasons someone doesn't fancy him.
>>103591
This. 3+ years of seething over him just makes just solidifies what he is supposed to be in game - main character who is a hero or villain under ones perspective.
>>104415
It's all coming together... He's the one that made Glamgals won in the first place!
I think this year one of the heavy hitters need to win. There's a lot of them that are overdue to become king.
Phoenix
Edgeworth
Travis
Denton
Kiryu (Yes even him)
Wesker
Any of the TF2 classes
Even if them of them are silent, we need to thin the herd.
>>104107
>People from the outside looking in would understand Jack Garland easily and understand Grimm if they knew or were told how Black Souls is popular on /v/. Nobody would understand how Batter beat Dr. fucking Eggman.
I don't care about what people from the outside looking in think about the results, these are our tournaments not theirs
>>104421
Too bad. Sooner or later the outsiders are going to take over the tournament. Don't be surprised when Cr1tikal makes a video about the latest Ms. /co/ drama.
Batter is very recognizable as an indie icon of the early 2010s to many, out of the Batter-Garland-Grimm he is EASILY the only one I could see performing well in other popularity contests outside of 4chan.
>>104418
Wesker being here is sad considering what happened, but I’m more curious about Edgeworth’s inclusion here. He’s a great character, but how many actually want him to win over Phoenix?
I still don't get why only 47 and Battler get associated and boosted by TFR and not any of the other series prominent in it, especially Yakuza and Resident Evil.
>>104427
Scout is a heavy hitter at the least. Heavy is arguable, but he’s lost some luster over the years. As for the rest of the mercs, I wouldn’t call any of them heavy hitters at this point. They’ve had five years to make it, and in that time we’ve simply seen reruns of both Heavy AND Scout.
Resident Evil is in a weird spot where it absolutely can make quarterfinals, but it’s never been able to get past 7th in all three cases it’s gotten that far. Wesker WAS seen in an alright light, but he’s been tainted hard by controversy. There was his main artist in 2022 openly freaking out after his loss to AM, but it got exponentially worse when it was discovered that NightShiftAnon (99%) was said artist with her trip off. If it was just one of those two Wesker likely could have recovered, but it’s that combination leaving a really bad aftertaste. At minimum, expect him to whiff at best this year. If you’re looking for RE momentum, a lot of people want to push for Chris this year.
Edgeworth is a weird case. He’s a strong character, but as mentioned his biggest issue is being tied to Phoenix Wright. Whether he could win would ultimately come down to whether people could pass on Phoenix or not. Keep in mind Edgeworth popped up in Elite Eight only when Phoenix wasn’t around.
To add onto this, there are two other heavy hitters you missed: Wario and Raiden. Both lost very narrowly to strong competition last year, which could very well be a blessing in disguise.
>>104427
People forget Wesker was actually a very middling contestant barring NSA's campaigning; he lost in a blowout r1 in 2019 and was bested by Regigigas and Spamton in 2020 and 2021 respectively. RE as a whole has potential to do better in King, but Wesker in particular was a character entirely carried by his OC.
>>104432
In my judgement, to qualify as a heavy hitter a character needs to be a consistent elite performer who has *at the very least* placed 5th once, and in the instance of losing earlier to the final rounds, only in favor of another heavy hitter. There are levels to this of course, Hank and Jack for example are considered to be on a different league next to the other heavy hitters in the Mr. /co/ roster given their three time elite eight streak.
Being a fan-favorite and a heavy hitter mustn't be confused; a character can be beloved by the threads but still perform poorly, and viceversa. Kiryu is a good example of the opposite.
>>104152
I wonder if this guy is the one trying to shit up BS threads with terrible bait
>>104428
Resident Evil ( aka Chris with Leon's cum ) is something not only TFR related. Yakuza in TFR mostly nothingburger. There is not many /v/idya TFR characters otherwise. The only character that could have something TFR related is Tatsuya and Shuichi (ugly)
>>104428
Battler's campaign is reliant on it and 47 is being dragged down with him, being unable to make it far on his own merit. However It is funny to draw 47 being the reason behind every one of Battler's failiures .
>>104428
The TFR camp had more influence during 2020, but seems to have died down in recent times due to the hiatuses. I don't lament it desu, I find most of them annoying and a lot of the most tired tournament memes came from them.
I barely saw any people talking about TFR or muh Round 3 in last year's King. I probably saw more people bitching about Battlerfags at this point than actual active Battlerfags. It's kinda getting old. The things people keep complaining about are mostly in the past at this point.
>>103504
Furries doing so badly are good, actually. I'm glad they always have such shit performances no matter how hard they try to campaign. Especially last year when none of the furries can even come close to being in the Elite 8. It's just board culture and I'm glad the voters think the same way. If a furry gets to actually win a main tournament only then will the tournaments be unsalvageable.
>>104556
You aren't being clear what you're referring to
/co/ or /v/, or both? Ms or Mr, or both? Is furry just any cooming animal character or any animal character period?
>>103504
The NSA drama is not going to seriously sway people's opinion on any characters. Because the silent majority probably doesn't even remember what a NSA is. This is the kind of shit only tourneyheads like us seriously care about.
>but Captain America...
...never qualified again because comics are much less popular than cartoons, not because most people give a shit about the rigging.
>but Chris...
...was always a Round 1 jobber who seeded below 100 both times he was in.
If Wesker is going to do worse, it's because NSA won't be there to campaign for him, not because people will get mad at the character.
Bayonetta is likely going to keep doing well because she's popular with or without campaigning.
Black Hat is going to keep being an early rounds jobber at best.
Zim will likely keep qualifying but if he doesn't get far, it's not because the silen majority is angry at NSA.
>>104560
Any anthro of course. Only real animal character that does well is Amaterasu. She doesn't count.
>>104556
The golden age of cartoons was mostly furries, and the 90s to early 2000s of gaming had just about every company try to get their own animal mascot. You don't have to like furries, but to pretend like it would be the end of the world if more were to win main tournaments is retarded when considering how important to entertainment they are.
>>104568
Sounds like a you problem. It's an anime website, and the god of manga was into mouse girls.
>>104556
I don't mind furry characters but you're right site culture is negative on furries and some furfags here really seethe about that.
Samus is unironically the second worst and weakest winner. To the point she doesn't even have vocal supporters you can count with unlike Armstrong
>>104572
It's more the idea that I'm supposed to not vote for characters who are almost never seen in a coomer light (like Tom, for one who has won) because someone might have coomed to Nicole Watterson before which is dumb as shit. And then they same people go and openly coom to TVA girls like that isn't worse
>>104569
It's an anime website not a manga website. You don't see a furry board anywhere or even furry threads.
>>104571
NSA was clearly slacking for Ms. /co/ two years ago. By far the worst Elite 8 ever.
>>104572
You're right. Look at how many furfags are seething right now.
>>104576
All furries are coomer picks, stop lying to yourself.
>>104575
If culturesissy is so scared of furries, how scared of scalies like Ridley is he?
>>104577
>Mrs Brisby is a coomer pick
You must be incredibly retarded if you believe this, either that or the very fact that there are people here who like furries is enough to make you seethe and cry.
>>104579
Not as scary and completely mindbroken as he is right now blaming everyone for his dead culture and hateboner about fluffy animals, kek. We have to remember itoddler complaining about furries doesn't deny being a filthy shotafag so that helps him stay in line everytime he opens his mouth.
>>104583
It's the itoddler. He mass replied the same way in Ms. /aco/ 2023. It's funny he thinks he has a place here
Our HERO is going to have to kill this guy for supporting NSA and disrespecting his wife, Mrs. Brisby, like this.
>>104588
Count me in too. We will BUTCHER him.
>>104561
I think Wesker will just go back to being an early exit unless someone else picks up the mantle and Black Hat will no longer qualify.
>>104668
Black Hat no longer qualifying the moment NSA stops being a host will look really fucking bad, same goes for Goo who only qualified last year after either not being nominated before or was an extremely low seed.
Some people have brought up the yearly timing of certain winners and I think that's a good point. Glamgals aren't a terrible winner, but weird for an inaugural. The problems with Recette and Batter wouldn't be thought of nearly as big if their wins didn't come int he third year, and came at some much later year instead. Having oddball winners early kind of cockblocks a good line-up of conventional and widely agreeable (in the long run) winners from getting established first, and risks setting a precedent or tone for more underdog or oddball meta-esque winners in the following years. This applies to all tourneys, and of course ms. /co/ was probably hit the worst with fucking Spinel in year 2 and the effects of that.
>>104698
Basically Recette/Batter may have happened like a year or two too early. If there were four or so conventional years of Ms. /co/ and then Spinel happened she'd be regarded as a shit winner and shit tourney but it probably wouldn't ruin the trajectory of ms. /co/ like she did.
>>104698
While I don't entirely disagree, I do think Recette and Batter being third year winners isn't completely out there. There were already two really fitting winners in each tournament, so changing course for a year after that wasn't too out there. Queen would go on to have two more big winners, and while the combo following Batter isn't the greatest for King I don't think people are going to deny why Garland or Grimm won in their own rights.
>>104699
Now I DO agree with this one, although it plays off what I said above. If we got Spinel even in 2020 following a Raven win prior, there would still be two cornerstone winners to fall back on instead of just Jenny. To really set the standards for what a winner might entail, I'd say it ideally should take two to allow for some correlations to be made.
Getting a little off-topic here, but I do wonder how Spinel vs. Monarch would have gone down. That sounds hilarious to ponder in hindsight, especially if both Tyr'ahnee and Fang still lost in this scenario.
>>104698
>>104699
I don't know I think year 3 is past the "early winner" threshold that's like the foundation for all future winners. If you look at Mr. /co/ you have Tom as the year 3 winner who was less conventional than Johnny and Kronk, not trash talking my boy Tom obviously I'm just saying I think for year 3 it's reasonable to have a winner that diverges from the type of candidate the previous two winners were.
Plus it's not like a less conventional winner like Recette on year 3 prevented Queen /v/oters from picking Midna and Curly the following years who themselves are very "straight" winners along the lines of Samus/Reimu
>>104577
>Look at how many furfags are seething right now.
I don't even hate furries (I'm a horsefucker myself) but it is pretty funny how defensive the furfags in the tourney threads get whenever someone doesn't like them. It's like if we replied to every Barneyfag post. This might have something to do with why the muzzle caused so much butthurt compared to the objectively much more aggressive images of non-furry picks getting raped and killed.
Also just something I thought of, if itoddler never kept reposting the muzzle pic people would've eventually forgotten about it and NSA could've still been in power. NSA was accidentally destroyed by his #1 fan.
>>104715
Don't forget instead of throwing a group in the same bag, it was the Batter anon who was disturbed by that drawing because it hit him hard as something close to animal cruelty. I didn't mind them but I can understand some people who do.
>>104717
Yeah no offense to the horsefag but that's what a few forget but conveniently put the blame on furfags ignoring it could have been some anons who genuinely felt disgusted by those drawings because it looks visually like something you speak of. It could have been NSA falseflagging to stir up more controversy too given how much free time the bitch has now that the true came to light.
>>104415
>main character who is a hero or villain under ones perspective.
>nowadays people have mixed perception of him
Holy fuck you're right
KINOOOOOOO
>>104725
You could say he's aged well
Chel should never win. She’s so fucking boring and no one even bothers to campaign or make OC or participate for her. Maybe if her supporters start being active I’ll reconsider my stance.
>>104755
Chel should win if she gets decent support. She's been probably the most powerful silent ever. If she got just a handful of active supporters she likely could've won by now.
>>104717
I'm not NSA, nor a falseflagger. Just one of many anons. It really was just a stupid confession that got way more attention than I ever anticipated. I usually have thicker skin, but in truth the initial confession post wasn't completely honest. I was also going through personal shit at the time that in no way would anybody want a blogpost about, and it kindof compounded. The taunting got to me. I was better by the time I made the confession, if anything vindicated since it got people to finally boot out that cunt NSA. I'm only human.
>>104717
>/co/ jokes about an animal being raped
>/v/ is deeply saddened about a drawing of an animal in a muzzle
>>104762
This just shows that /v/ users are much better people, full of sympathy for God's creatures.
>>104762
This just shows that /co/ users are much better people, as they know better than to get worked up over drawings on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
I've been seeing too much complaining lately about past winners and it needs to stop. It's going to drag down the entire spirit and enjoyment of the tourneys if every winner is meticulously picked apart and shit on. Who's going to want to participate if they got a character to win, only for anons to excessively criticize said winners and campaigners later?
No winner is going to be literally perfect, get over yourselves. I understand if you don't like a winner because they might've had some long-lasting negative consequence to their win like Spinel, or you felt deceived by voting for them like with Recette. But the overwhelming majority of winners are fine, even many of the "controversial" or "silent" ones.
Winners being good or shit doesn't matter since they aren't allowed back anyway. Actually, them being shit is better since the good characters can actually still participate.
>>104423
Is this supposed to be a good thing? These are 4chan tournaments, and last I checked when does 4chan care about OFF or the Batter?
>>104767
People are discussing winners like they’re some sort of celebrities when in reality they’re something much simpler and more important: Examples.
You look at a winner and see what went wrong and good, you take it as an example when you think your main is hot shit. Spinel winning is forever ingrained within the tournaments to have been the rigger queen, Betty Boop was the last hope of Ms. 2021. They’re going to be known and remembered. Being critical of a winner is equivalent of being critical of a statue of a former president.
>>104768
frfr who are these niggas anyway? they got no new game and they ain't even in Fortnite. busting my buffers goddamn
>>104777
I am very certain oldfags would consider Batter a much fitting winner than either Garland or Grimm.
>>104767
there are only three winners, across all four main tournaments, that are certifiably, irredeemably shit.
1. Spinel
2. Recette
3. Fang
you could also argue for including Reimu, which would bring the number up to 4. but that's it.
>>104767
It goes back to the old problem of defining what a winner means or tourneys really are. Personally I see champs as basically being a board rep foremost, medium rep secondary, and tourneys being the fun democratic vehicle for that, so I don't jive much with overtly meta tourney-based winners. I don't think this problem should extend so much to /tnt/ and this is a side board that's inherit purpose is largely being a meta tourneyhead assembly.
>>104792
This sums it up for me. It's King/Queen of /v/, so I want the winners to be something that's special to /v/. Armstrong and Dante obviously fit that bill, Garland despite how you feel about his run also 100% fits that role, and 4chan is one of the only places you're likely to see significant acknowledgement of Black Souls. Batter is just the odd one out here, in my eyes.
>>104761
It's alright though, you let it all out and you had every right to be disgusted by it, especially later knowing the remorseless cunt who drew those drawings visually reflecting animal cruelty.
Campaigning is based
RP is based
OC is based
Coomposting is based
Trolling is based
However you should only vote for the character you like better regardless of the above
I still kind of like Spinel.
Like of course her win was bullshit and she ruined ms. /co/ but she FIT as someone to do that, and how it went down in a perfect storm is pretty hilarious.
And I'm not sure I'd even call her the worst winner in evaluating their own tourney. I'd prefer a plane-crashing passionate chaos champ over a wet fart noodle champ.
I think taking breaks from characters will save them in a long run. Look at Battler, people were running his jokes to the ground and shitting on him before he jobbed. The real fans and artists left him to the dust last year and hope that they take a long hiatus until interest in him or his game regains traction despite TFR memes.
>>104814
You're right. She's a better winner than Spinel. At least she still fucking gets threads.
>>104818
A lot of characters deserve rests but that'll never happen unless they either win or make it into elite 8.
>>104825
I am retarded, I meant to say Recette. Still, I'd probably agree on saying she's not even the worst Ms.
>>104818
>The real fans and artists left him to the dust last year and hope that they take a long hiatus until interest in him or his game regains traction despite TFR memes.
I actually think real TFR fans left/stopped posting past 2021 anyway and its just people who saw the memes and used it who aren't even real TFRfags.
Also honestly I would rather see other VNs character make it into the bracket, 07th Expansion grip on the tourney is boring.
>the real TFR fans
The real TFR fags never truly left, they are just that cancerous.
>>104841
I'm hoping for more or better Fate reps this upcoming queen and king. Steins;Gate gets snubbed in these despite being the staple VN.
It would serve Ms. /co/ well (and Ms. /co/ alone) to repeal the Elite Eight ruling.
The heavy hitters will harden the bracket, balancing out spite/FOTM, without outright negating it (which in turn will perform the supposed function of the Elite Eight, preventing high tier stomps every year).
In addition, ending the yearly cuckjail for high tiers will stave off silentfaggotry, and allow those girls to build up some thread presence and year-to-year momentum.
Not relevant in other tournaments because Ms. /co/‘s brand of chaos is unique to it, and none of the others require a stability fix like this.
>>104854
I legitimately don't get how you're going to convince anybody with the way you present your idea of removing E8. Only for Ms. /co/ for that matter, the motherfucker.
Most of those arguments are purely based on hypothetical in an already chaotic tournament. Legitimately, just don't fix it if it ain't broke.
I wish this guy would put his energy into arguing against series limits.
>>104854
This tournament’s broken enough as is and the E8 is one of the few good rules we have, getting rid of it will just make things worse.
>>104856
>Ms. /co/
>Not broke
And the balancing patch being specifically targeted to the most chaotic tournament is a feature, not a bug. Introducing a more difficult bracket diminishes cancer strats, which is the predominant issue with Ms /co/.
>>104857
Neutral, good arguments for and against.
>>104858
Literally just a tool for the host to rig. Get rid of it.
>>104859
>E8 is a good rule
Not for Ms /co/, clearly.
>>104107
Even though I think Eggman would have been a better winner, Batter is still a great champion in his own right. You got to realize that OFF is a cult classic, and is one of the forefathers in the subculture of offbeat/quirky indie games with DEEPLORE. Batter is basically the representative winner for all the games under this psuedo-genre like Undertale, Omori, Lisa, etc. which are quite popular on /v/.
>>104861
>Batter is basically the representative winner for *shitty unfunny zoomer Earthbound-ripoff slop with themes of depression*
Wow, you sure convinced me. What a great winner.
tournaments are gay
tag team is gay
co op is gay
ms/co/ is gay
mr/co/ is gay
queen of /v/ is gay
king of /v/ is gay
You're all fucking faggots
>>104865
/an/chads, /aco/chads, /his/chads, heroes and villainschads, /mlp/chads, we just can't stop winning.
>>104861
>Batter is basically the representative winner for creating one of the best genre ever existed
Based, my favorite winner.
>>104045
>>104035
Sometimes I wonder about that. I want the characters themselves to win, not it be some epic identity thing where X anon was SO RAD and that's why the character HAD to win. Naturally, drawfags that draw a lot are going to get attention. There's no crime in this happening, the point of art is for people to see it and interpret it some way. But still, too much focus can detract from the main point: CHARACTER tournament. Not an anon tournament. I hope focus can ultimately stay on promoting how cool the characters themselves are, not so much how cool someone's scribbles and memes are. Even if they are cool, it's best if art is a factor of a win. Not the overall reason. That can turn around poorly in some cases, like it did with Wuya. I feel bad for the artfags that weren't NSA, they got thrown in with her. I just draw because I have fun doing so, and well, it DOES help. It'd just be good if maybe we cooled down a LITTLE bit on it, because I'd hate for the pendulum to swing the other way where art attracts spite and fear. That'd be outright toxic.
>>104870
You make a good point in regards to people supporting characters because of anons instead of just the character themselves. I think it has to do with the focus on identity, when people support Wario they just fixate on Warioanon instead of just saying Wario campaign itself, this is not an issue with other characters because their RPers/campaigners don't really make themselves to stand out on purpose, but Warioanon does which is why it happens that way. I think artfags need to be careful when going down this path since it can definitely backfire.
>>104870
I did some mistakes that I regret on some characters that don't deserve to win because their personality sucks or don't have any in game. It is why I don't fully support them anymore kek.
I think if artists and campaigners in general want to avoid becoming tournament personalities and thus too associated with their supported characters, they shouldn't be trying call attention upon themselves in the first place, either by avatarfagging or through other means, see: NSA sharing her DA profile with the tournament, when nobody knew or cared if she had any social media before the fact.
>>104881
Wariofag did neither of those and we still associate him with Wario.
>>104882
I guess Wariofag just has a very recognizable art style and tends to be a frequent poster.
>>104882
Anon, he literally go "Warioanon here" a lot, nothing against him but he explicitly make himself stand out.
>>104895
I don't know I think it's pretty funny myself.
>>104897
No, it isn't funny.
It's not hilarious, amusing, or hysterical either.
>>104901
I suspect because your feeble Brazilian mind was trounced when everyone forgot about you in the nominations and now can only indulge in metagaming and falseflagging.
>>104904
Hah! It seems like you're pretty funny yourself, bravo! I'll come back.
Co-op duos should stick to their canon sources unless they really work well like Romantic Heat or Demonic Demon Hunters.
>>104922
extracurricular school hours does not look like a duo that would mesh well both aesthetically nor character wise but somehow got far.
We should have never let Tienfags post here.
>>104875
>randomly brings up a troll post from months ago to give it extra attention
You guys ever think the reason there's so much falseflagging is because it's that easy to get a rise out of you?
>>104939
Calm down son, it's just funposting
>>104896
In truth I'm kindof retarded and just used that name for my Pixiv because that's what everybody was calling me for King 2021, I mean names are generally something given, not taken, right?
I've been wanting to change my artfagging name for a while but then worry people would think I'm disavowing the character, couldn't be further from the truth.
>>104970
Deviantart doesn't allow NSFW, Pixiv does. Also Deviantart has too many retards.
Pixiv DID allow NSFW, until about midway through 2023 when they went on a freakout over nudity
Frustratingly though, they're PAINFULLY more lenient on Japanese artists, who can get away with comically small pixel censors and sometimes just outright uncensored nudity, but will flip if you don't put a FAT censor bar over anything western. But every other site is either dead, even stricter, or awful for organizing. So they're the best reluctant option.
>>104971
Well that sucks. You're just called that in Pixiv? Warioanon? I can understand if you don't want to share the name though
>>104974
Oh I have no fear in sharing it when asked. I only warn people before clicking because I also like to draw fluffy women, and I know not a lot of people like that
I might just go and change it, rip off the band-aid now while in off-season with a "also called "Warioanon" on /v/" disclaimer. But only after I draw some new art, first. Haven't drawn nature in ages, want to take a crack at it.
>went bonkers as soon as GAYren was made fun of
ENOUGH, you will NOT make fun of CHADji the renGOD in these halls, not now, not EVER.
*punches gut*
AAARGG *forcefeeds him*
Only GODllin stands a chance
/dbs/ would be like Cirno and Touhou in general; they may get in the E8 a few times but most of the time remain as mid carders who get spitevoted right before quarterfinals.
>>105080
So you're saying they'd got one stomp year? Wouldn't be the first year but second year win for Goku like Reimu I could see.
>>105080
>/dbs/ will get an obligatory win with Goku and then become consistent E8/Midcarders
Who’s gonna be the recurring E8 member?
>>105083
ORE WA...
/dbs/fags will be the MDfags of /a/. This is not headcanon or bizarro world, just an accurate prediction of the future.
>>105085
Except Dragon Ball is a worldwide cultural phenomenon and not just a topical webseries a bunch of literal children and autists are rabid about.
People shouldn’t nominate characters they have no plans in supporting or campaigning for.
>>105092
I VILL nominate a bunch of literal whos that I'll never campaign for and you VILL like it.
>>105092
Imagine if people truly did that, it'd be better for everyone but "WE NEED to nominate over seven hundred filler characters!"
Losing in finals more than once is objectively worse than continuously losing round 1
>>105127
Is it? At least Eggkek has a richer and more interesting match-up history than someone like Banjo. And objectively more victories.
>>105132
Yeah, at least we get more funny eggkek OC plus the fact that he participates in both /v/ and /co/.
>>105152
I agree completely. I've been saying this but people whine "What about.... Le euros" or "What about that one obvious nomination miss we get every year"
No, fuck you. By thread 3's ending basically everybody worth nominating is nominated. If only a single anon remembered to nominate a character later on, guess what? Not enough people cared about that character, and they won't do shit in the tourney.
We need more time for qualifiers, one of the three most important rounds of the tourney. It's absolute hell trying to make your character stand out amount over one THOUSAND. I can only imagine it's also a huge pain in the ass for hosts to check and make sure every submission is correct, especially with that many. We just get flooded with samefagged Augie Dougie garbage and the bottom 128 becomes absolutely worthless because of it.
>>105160
>"What about.... Le euros"
I wish unwitting anons stopped using this retarded front when many of us Europeans already are used to having to stay up late during the tourney season.
>>103504
I know there's been fearposting about AM being yet-another overly hyped schizo alliance character that'll make everybody not a schizo alliance member yet again irrelevant, but honestly that's not even my biggest gripe with him.
It's that he's not a fucking video game character. He's a sci-fi novel character that was adapted into a point and click adventure after the fact. It's not some public domain reinterpretation like Dracula in castlevania, no the author literally adapted his BOOK into Vidya. People crucified NSA for letting Lain into Queen /v/, so why the fuck does AM get a pass for being the exact same shit? We rightfully mock the Dragonball fags for wanting Xenoverse character in /v/, but they no less legitimacy than AM.
It really feels like either hypocrisy or rukes-lawyering semantics to let AM in. He's not a video game character. Save him for king of /trash/ or something like that.
>>105164
It's the same case with Geralt btw. I think with them they're just so much more vidya and /v/-famous that it feels unfair not to let them in. But technically no, they're not vidya. But there were definitely worse offenders like Rebecca (who was never vidya at any point).
I remember fucking Arcane was banned in 2022 for not being /co/ (since rescinded) but leniency of /v/ in comparison is remarkable.
They won.
>>105164
The original IHNMAIMS is a short story I'd never heard of until after beating the game. The game's story is greatly expanded compared to the original book, and one of the main reasons it's so beloved is the voice acting and the the artstyle, both of which have nothing to do with the book. On top of that the main reason it's beloved on /v/ in particular is the game, scarcely anyone cares about the short story. Anti-AM discourse always struck me as salty rulefagging from people who hate either the game or the character.
>>105165
The Witcher games and Witcher books have been considered different properties for a few years now ever since the author sued CDPR. They’re canonically and legally two different properties, the games only been made as a non-canon continuation of the books rather than being a coverage of them (Something that IHNMAIMS does).
So while both have /lit/ origins, Geralt is more suitably /v/ related due to the games being a non-canon continuation of the books and not a coverage of them.
>>105161
Only those who anticipate these tourneys or have fucked up sleep schedule. For me qualifiers start at 2 am. For someone with fucked up sleep schedule it's ok, but even woth that I'm usually only able to stay awake for 1 thread.
>>105182
South and Southeast asians would actually be fine. Capping nominations mostly fucks over euros and the Middle East.
>>105152
I can agree to cutting the nomination round time, say in half to 12 hours to reduce the clutter and lull period of no real nominations. I cannot support a set specific amount of threads, it sounds good in theory but a disaster in reality.
Main reason is because you only get 300 image slots max per thread for nominations. I guarantee you, 100%, if we get 3-4 threads that people will nominate their 1-5 shit literal who picks right at the front and then proceed to try to spam as many unrelated meme and funpost images as they can to max out the image limit and give their shit picks far less competition by not letting them get nominated. If you get 5-10 people doing this you could really fuck up the nominations. From experience this already happens on /co/ (especially the last threads) and I could not imagine how bad /v/ would be especially with shorter archive times. The heavyweights are among the first nominated so they won't have an issue still making it in, but we might very well end up with 300 qualified nominees and 150 of them are samefagged literal who AD-type candidates that are usually the 1000th place characters over the stronger list of characters who make up the top 300. And that's for /co/, /v/ would be worse
>>105180
The canon coverage between the IHNMaIMS game and the original short story is kind of dubious since they follow a different plot and there exist contradictions in the backstories of some of the characters. The game is NOT meant to be a sequel to the story, contrary to what I have seen some people assume.
I think with the way Harlan went about it, he was trying to make the narrative of the game an actualization on the short story on top of expanding upon it.
>>105165
The rules have literally always allowed for Rebbeca's entry.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Queen_of_/v/_2023#Character_/_series_eligibility
>Characters debuting in non-vidya media that is part of an established vidya franchise are accepted. (e.g. Miss Pauling first appeared in WAR! Comic, a tie-in webcomic to Team Fortress 2's WAR! Update. Fate/Apocrypha is originally a light novel, but Jeanne d'Arc also appears in the gacha game Fate/Grand Order; furthermore, the Fate franchise began as a visual novel. Uma Musume was first announced as a mobile gacha game, but it was delayed to the point that the anime came out first; regardless, both the game and the anime are equally popular among fans.)
Which has also basically been the rules since 2020.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Queen_of_/v/_2020
Rebecca is by this definition perfectly eligeble unless there is a rule change, or else you'd have to get rid of tons of other stuff that technically didn't debut in a game by side material or some shit.
I understand why people wouldn't want her in, but the reason is literally just seethe cause they don't want cyberpunk in the tourney like that.
Lain doesn't meet the rules due to the game release date difference, in comparison.
Characters like Morrison from DMC do, Saxton Hale, etcetera and Rebecca herself, or David, and so on.
Maybe you could've added an additional clause saying that the character needs to be in a video game in the flesh (not just mentioned) to count too. Then you'd get characters like Saxton, or more niche, Kasen from Touhou, who is a manga character featured in an official fighting game spinoff after her original debut.
As for Geralt and AM-style cases, there should've been a rule that judged non-vidya characters who got video games, should they have entered round 1 (thus they'd be more efficiently filtered out and saving us from the whitelist of autism) but NightShift doesn't know shit about video games except Undertale and couldn't judge that. Worst thing is, she wouldn't even let Balls judge it in that case.
>>105188
Or actually, when I think of it, technically Rebecca doesn't qualify since Cyberpunk started as a table top RPG. Unless Cyberpunk's modern game is counted as a separate instance/spin off.
Nevermind that, but still, these are probably the better clarifications on the rules to do if we get a competent host.
>>105188
Then the rules suck because Lain participating is more reasonable than Rebecca, since Lain is at the very least in an actual game.
>>105189
This also made me think. If AM is generally ruled as eligeble, are all the characters from the game too? The weird grey area where it's just one character vs the game should be established.
Anime characters should be allowed if they have a heavy focus on vidya or are based on a vidya franchise
there badabig solved it for ya
If a character doesn't have an actual presence in a video game, it shouldn't be allowed in a video game tournament.
I find all this rulefagging pedantic because the question should boil down to if the character in question was popularized and owes their iconicity to their VIDEOGAME appearance. I'm not going to vote for a character that belongs to a videogame franchise, but who has no remarkable roles in any game title.
>>105199
Not really, you just need someone who is not an idiot and/or a dishonest asshole (like NSA).
>>105188
Whatever the rules technically may say about Rebecca it doesn't matter cause her inclusion is retarded as common sense should dictate. A character NOT from a video game and has NEVER been in ANY video game should not be in a video game tournament. She is purely /a/.
/v/, known for voting for the dumbest shit inclusions and rules, did not even vote for Rebecca to stay. It was overwhelming enough NSA couldn't even rig it.
>>105191
>If AM is generally ruled as eligeble, are all the characters from the game too?
I nominated the Russian computer as a joke last year and at no point did the hosts take issue with it, so yes, I assume that's the case. But it's not like anyone else has a chance of actually qualifying or whatever.
>>105191
You absolutely could, but can't see anyone else having a shot at winning. The main five's flaws by design make any of them hard to rally around, and even if you did they're still not as exciting as the evil computer god.
I nominated Spider-Man from Marvel vs. Capcom last year primarily because Doctor Doom had been voted in, and yet neither were reported on the qualifier results. Maybe the hosts had a change of heart on that one?
NSA shouldn't have been allowed to host any of the 2023 tournaments and it's honestly shameful we had to discover she's actually a gigaschizo to take any serious action against her.
>>105418
I agree, but again what were we supposed to do? We're words on a screen to NSA, we hold no power against her
>>105418
Ideally we would have at minimum moved on from her touching /v/, but that didn't happen. On the converse, most direct damage she could have caused would have already happened in 2022. Last year her biggest crime other than the poor bracket merge was secretly falseflagging against Ammy, which may as well happened regardless of hosting.
>>105481
Ideally we would have overthrown him, but the only person who was both around and willing to forcefully kick out a host was Temp Anon, who while less crooked is also more incompetent
>>105418
The biggest problem in this has always been more hosts. For all NSA's blunders in 2022 they still came out looking the best of the worst cause of the shitty alternative prospects. Also NSA held host seniority so I guess that made them the boss of hosts or something.
>>105493
I think Temp's also, while less malevolent, just as much an asshole autist. See them constantly coming here and trying to make a full takeover at every opportunity and without even mentioning any other existent hosts.
>>105500
>See them constantly coming here and trying to make a full takeover at every opportunity and without even mentioning any other existent hosts.
When?
I only vote for characters with fun campaigns and games I can enjoy in any kind of way.
>>105485
I don't know why people kept insisting Balls would become the main /v/ host starting last year, in my eyes it was very obvious NSA was still the one at the helm.
Gentlemen, I've figured out the solution to the AM debate:
We simply have him participate in Mr /co/ instead of King /v/.
He had a comic book that came out before the video game, and if that can get Ms Pauline or Saxton Hale into /co/, why not AM? Mr /co/ doesn't have a schizo alliance issue, and he'd actually be MORE legal there, as the comic is only the second version of IHNMAIMS, while the vidya is the third one.
And to top it all off, we can still get an Eggman vs Schizo match thanks to the Robotnik grandfather clause.
Anyone who uses success in side tourneys as evidence of character strength is a moron.
>>105595
All this tells me is that Bowser is too much of pussy to compete in the same bracket as AM.
>>105666
Yes and no
It can signify a character making a tournament or getting close but it's not like Mansley will win Mr /co/ ever because he won this
Wuya is not a bad winner. In fact, I'd say she's the second best Ms. /co/ winner. Still not very good, but better than everyone that isn't named Jenny.
Every winner is good except spinel and I’m tired of jennyfags shitting on every other winner
I'm actually ok with all of the autism going in the /v/ tournaments and I find it fun as long as characters themselves are videogame ones. Fuck ecelebs thought.
>>105677
It's mostly because duo characters like him and the general work much better as tag-team than individual, you can see it as well with other teams that made it elite 8.
BETRAYING and TRAPPING someone in the hyperbolic time chamber should be the true punishment instead of lazy asterisks
Most of the opinions expressed in this thread arrn't controversial.
Alex didn't deserve to be the face of the nigger buff.
Grimm and Batter forever ruined the chances of RPGmaker games like fear and hunger characters doing well.
>>105741
Oh no, my characters from le heckin Earthbound-inspired quirky indie RPGs with themes of depression won't do well anymore even though we already have 2 winners from those types of games! I can't take it anymore!
2022 was a good year in terms of winners. Of the four main tourneys I liked all of them but Jack
>>105743
>le heckin Earthbound-inspired quirky indie RPGs with themes of depression
I thought we had worn out that label by now. It's always been a more broad "weirder indie RPG with heavy themes", but even then OFF and Black Souls are both hardly what I'd call in the heart of that.
>>105743
Don’t worry, once undertale is considered nostalgic in like 5 years we will get wins for them too!
>>105741
While you aren't quite wrong about King of /v/ at least, I also feel most of these were no hopers anyways. The only true loss here would be Brad Armstrong. Rest of the notable guys I could think of from RPG Maker games like Fear & Hunger, Omori, or (the first) Hylics aren't even reliable qualifiers like what >>105744 said. At this point, Madotsuki is the last serious contender from RPG Maker titles that could actually win, which would a fitting cap-off considering her game's general impact. Ib and maybe Niko could qualify, but they are definitely not winning. Even Alice just seems like a less exciting pick than Grimm going forward, different tournament or not.
>>105753
The game's already nine years old and usually loses in the first two rounds barring special exceptions. I don't think even another five years is going to help it much. Kek
>>105754
There's surely other timelines where Omori got a way bigger reception on /v/, but we certainly aren't in one. Even with her strong campaign last year, I'm not even confident in Mari making it again.
>>105755
>The game's already nine years old
>>105761
Wait I just noticed that wtf. Toby please release all of Deltarune before I die of old age.
As someone who's pushed for Sunny in the past, I didn't need Grimm's win to accept that he's likely a never ever to win. The fact he'd HAVE to embrace his schizo side to be interesting would be even harder now, but that's not even a factor if he can't qualify in the first place. All four main tournaments have been going for over half a decade now, so sometimes it's just best to accept certain series just aren't meant to be in them. Absolutely don't want to discourage people from trying, but it's still fine to be realistic here about odds as well. Besides, you've always got people like the Dr. T guy still having fun during qualifiers every year.
>>105761
We're likely getting Deltarune's first paid chapters right on Undertale's tenth anniversary as well with the current pace according to Toby. I'm very curious where he's even going after that's wrapped up, but that's getting off-track here.
>>105729
He deserves that and worse. Alex is shit, Yiik is shit, and fuck anyboy sympathizing with that soyboy garbage
Enough of this "safe" controversy like "Look at me I'm the fiftieth post to complain about the schizo alliance". Let's get ACTUALLY controversial. Who do you think is the best winner of every year, and why? My choices are
>2018: Johnny Bravo. He's just so entertaining and endearing
>2019: It hurts to not pick Samus, but Senator Armstrong is just far too kino of a winner, MGR was such a good game. Best inaugural winner of any tourney, ever
>2020: Tom. I love Tom and Jerry
>2021: Man this year really fucking sucks for winners, all finalists except Hilda are outright superior to the actual "winners". If we aren't counting side tourneys like /aco/ I like Grievous the most, because he was pretty awesome in Genndy Clone wars. Absolutely not more than Hank Hill, but Grievous is still cool
>2022: Midna. Used to be absolutely obsessed with Twilight Princess, still have a big crush on Midna. Hurts not to pick Fang but I loved Fang for her show, not as much being a mute actual Dinosaur. TP is a pretty good game and Midna is just the best part of it. Zorak is alright but Space Ghost himself should've been the winner for that show.
>2023: A damn tough choice between Skeletor, Curly, and Loona. I really like all three but Skeletor edges out over the other two just slightly, he's just so much fun. Loona's show isn't great but for a porn tourney she's a phenomenal icon. Cave Story is also a fantastic game but Curly doesn't do nearly enough in it to beat Skeletor. Grimm is alright and Wuya is a rigger nigger
>>105793
>"Let's get ACTUALLY controversial."
>proceeds to voice no controversial opinions
>>105793
My most controversial opinion is Fang is the best Ms /co/ winner, not because she's incredible but because most Ms /co/ winners are just THAT bad. Jenny's alright but Fang is cooler.
Enough of this "safe" controversy like "Look at me I'm the fiftieth post to talk about how Skeletor is a good winner". Let's get ACTUALLY controversial. I think NSA is bad.
alright should the FOTM rule apply to already existing characters that have had recent content in less then a month?
>>105793
Those are all very milquetoast opinions.
>Zorak is mediocre. It would have been better had the plunderer autism not gotten a big lift.
>Grievous is where the underdog meta problem started.
>Fang is a very whatever winner. I didn't feel strongly for or against her. But I think she got way overhyped for being an ebin dino subversion.
>Recette is in a reasonably arguable regard worse than Spinel.
>A character being largely unrecognizable is a valid complaint.
>The overreactions to the muzzle drawings really were kind of gay and autistic, even if it led to good things.
>We should come up with more punchlines than rape and cucking.
>/dbs/ is kind of funny at first or in small doses but they get way too much slack for some reason, especially seeing on-topic spammers get bashed before them.
>>105811
>>Grievous is where the underdog meta problem started.
This is one is factually wrong because people were already hyping up underdog meta with Tom the year before, plus nobody really saw Grievous as an underdog.
I like the underdog meta and think the positives by far outweigh the negatives of it.
>>105793
>"Look at me I'm the fiftieth post to complain about the schizo alliance"
You mean *YOU* are not complaining about them for once?
>>105813
Yes but the "problem" didn't start with Tom. Grievous was the first campaign champ and in a year that kickstarted the heavy meta.
"Underdog" is a pretty stupid idea in a popularity tournament, and it always paradoxically makes them not an underdog at all. By this point a "normal" winner are the serious underdogs
An "underdog" winner once in a while is fine, if it's a character that's good and was just kind of in a predicament of never having a breakout year they deserved. Actual bumfuck nobody underdogs suck. Zorak was a good underdog. Batter is questionable. Recette sucked.
>>105811
>Disagreed. Plunderers is whatever, Zorak winning didn't even boost them in both side tournaments and the next year.
>Maybe, but Grievous himself isn't really an underdog.
>This one's just subjective, I disagree but fair
>Agreed. Rigging is gay and lame but Spinel is a better winner than Recette ever will be.
>Also agreed, but only in terms of a 4chan scope. Grimm isn't recognizable at large but to /v/ he's special.
>Fucking this. Raping characters is a running gag but putting a muzzle on a god dog is where we drew the line and had an outrage? Come on.
>That being said, also agreed. It's funny with Grimm because rape is in character. The rest are forced and frankly obnoxious. I'm sick of how much GETs are forced in general and the OOC push a lot of characters like King Boo or Alex get.
>I'm just used to them, it's funny. I think it's mainly because /dbs/ is a general 4chan thing that I see all the time, and the tournaments are just another Tuesday for them.
>>105826
It vexxes me when "people" (aka mostly the Anti-Silverfag) act like The Plunderers are this unstopabble force that have the tournaments in a chokehold when they continue losing early on during the side tournaments or straight up fail to qualify for the main bracket. Same thing applies to the guy who went back to doomposting about AM immediatly after Co-op had ended even though the guy lost r1 and qualified as a low seed.
>>105826
The plunderers thing doesn’t have to do so much with their actual performance as them just becoming the wanked gold standard of rp campaigning or whatever.
I kind of fail to see the humor in dbs over time. At first I think it’s funny cause the sheer retardation but you do eventually notice that there’s a staggering lack of variety in the jokes. You can say they’re just 4chan culture at this point (via brute force) but it’s very close to Pepe and Wojack tier in that regard.
>>105829
>them just becoming the wanked gold standard of rp campaigning or whatever.
...according to my headcanon btw
>>105828
>thinking the side tournaments will affect the main tournaments in any way, shape or form
AM will have a high seed and will sweep King.
>>105829
I think I might just have a low standard for my sense of humor, just the nickname "Bejita" gets me to smile a little bit.
>>105829
I just wanna know why the hate? I would’ve understood the hate if the roleplayers were obnoxious like loudfags or frogfags but from what I’ve seen they were always the most chill roleplayers around, I’ve never seen them sperg out at any time they’ve lost. To the contrary I’ve always seen them respect and support the picks they lost to.
>>105831
It's not like AM is not a contender for this year's crown, but I fail to see how most meta factors said to be in his favor are going to guarantee him the win. If he gets far I predict he's going to have hard time ultimately coming at the top.
>>105835
Ironic thing to say to such a widely regarded as underrated movies and show.
>>105835
Overrated by what standards, if they sometimes fail to qualify and don't often get far?
I personally love all the rape jokes if it has irony or a comedic lense to it and leads to nice developments like Rance getting raped by everyone.
A critical thing our friend anti-plunderer/silverfag fails to understand is that 70% of the mentions of these characters in meta discussion come exclusively from him. I'm one of the few people on /co/ to start and actively seek out Treasure Planet discussion on the board and I think this dude cares about John Silver's tournament presence more than I possibly could.
I think it’s weird that Mr. /co/lympus specifically is obsessed with Treasure Island. Even disregarding the Treasure Planet overlap I keep seeing anons nominate characters (and multiple Liveseys) from every single animated adaptation of TI imaginable.
>>105840
>I keep seeing anons nominate characters (and multiple Liveseys) from every single animated adaptation of TI imaginable.
That's just a meme trend which began with Livesey's rise in popularity during 2022 (which almost cost him a spot in the bracket btw). Don't think it's any deeper than that.
>>105834
All the AM shit is such fake outrage. His 2022 run that got him to 4th place had jack to do with the schizo alliance, people just want to start shit.
>>105843
Plus, if it really boiled down to Schizo Alliance AM would have already won and beaten Jack.
>>105845
Yeah, but it had absolutely nothing to do with alliance autism. It's a non-factor.
>>105840
Reminder NSA basically rigged Livesey in the first year when he placed 129th by "accidentally" leaving another character out by series rule and if Livesey didn't make it then he would have never qualified for a tournament
>>105847
I honestly think that was a genuine accident because I don't recall NSA being one of the Livesey campaigners.
this isn't a thing that anyone is saying now but i know it's going to come up in the future so i'm pre-empting the discussion
i don't think ENA can be considered an underdog anymore. she's seeded high in both her runs and made the elite 8. is she a wild card? yes. a campaigner favorite? most definitely. but an underdog? i'm not so sure.
>>105811
>>/dbs/ is kind of funny at first or in small doses but they get way too much slack for some reason, especially seeing on-topic spammers get bashed before them.
it simply is not worth the effort to complain about them because they're too autistic to ever get the hint and fuck off. that, or they're actively malicious. they're apparently frequent ban evaders too, so we couldn't even drop the hammer on them.
the solution, as with most of the bullshit on this site, is to ignore them.
>>105855
>ENAfag is anti-/dbs/
Alright, that's it. You took it too far. Now she's definitely getting my vote.
>>105837
>by what standards,
Campaign rp wank. Hadn’t that been mentioned? Also just general alliance autism.
>>105871
The Plunderers are far from being considered the "golden standard" of RP or anything of the short. The Silveranon isn't even the only roleplayer to have an avatarfag here.
>>105879
NTA, they are considered the standard because not only are they the most talked about and known but the most successful as well as one of their members is the only known time that a character (Zorak) won a major tournament entirely due to roleplaying
>>105879
For a while they were seen as the biggest symbol of rp and campaign success. They became associated as the /tnt/ exemplars on 4chan.
>>105868
His dream home, Poo Mountain.
How come /co/nquerors never get talked about? As far as I understand, Plunderers just branched off from them. Also IIRC both Grievous and Skeletor were /co/nquerors at some point, which would actually make them more successful than Plunderers.
>>105903
Cause Ruber and Silver are the most active and always reference and team themselves in relation to plunderers.
>>105903
I prefer this over the Plunderers honestly. You have more variety than just the three same people all the time. The problem is that not a lot of those characters have vocal supporters, maybe Omni-Man and the Monarch of they're pushed hard enough
>off-topic Krillin YABBA DABBA DOO posting gets tolerated, even outright praised in tournament threads
>actually on-topic Luigi and Mr. Incredible PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE posting gets immediately ostracized
I never got this, so what if it’s falseflagging? It still beats off-topic bullshit.
>>105912
Because 9 out of 10 it is an attack against the character which rarely manages to be funny. Recette also gets cuckposting but I have never shat on her poster because he has actually gotten a chuckle out of me.
>>105912
Yabba dabba posting is whatever. it's stuff like entire threads turning into goku vs bejita spam that I'm surprised doesn't get trashed more.
/dbs/ should be ban hammered. They spam so many places and the moderation does nothing about them ever. The funny part is they claim to hate jannies and the jannies hate them, but the jannies never ever do anything about them.
I'd get the antagonism towards /dbs/ a year ago but right about now they are pretty fucking inoffensive and more often than not end up contributing more to the threads rather than detracting.
>>105932
>but right about now they are pretty fucking inoffensive and more often than not end up contributing more to the threads rather than detracting.
they do nothing but spam shitty catchphrases, that's all they ever do
/dbs/ may finally be relevant at least if we're getting those /a/ tourneys this summer.
>>105932
>I don’t get how you could be annoyed by seeing the same 3 posts over and over again 24/7
Mental retardation or falseflag, call it
>>105943
Rather, I think it's too late to start complaining about /dbs/ when they have been around since Ms. /co/ 2021.
Gets shouldn't be hated as much. I kinda see em as anons mostly shooting the shit while waiting for the round to finish.
>if a bad thing has happened before then you can't complain about it anymore even though it's still happening
There is no such thing as "shared board culture". The only one trying to force this meme is the /v/fag known as NSA who wants to be the center of both boards and some shitty icon. /v/ taking /co/'s board and forcing their way into sharing a wiki is a very negative thing because both boards are nothing alike in the slightest as evident by the types of winners. I hate people trying to participate in both and force it as one entity when it's not.
>>105961
>forcing their way into sharing a wiki
and /aco/
and /an/
and /his/
and soon to be /trash/
>>105961
I don't think it's something forced by NSA, it's just the natural result of this shit happening between two boards with the same people running it in the same format in the same time-frame and leading to concurrent meta and speculation.
In the main site I agree the division is still distinct enough but far from totally isolated. But now that /tnt/ has existed for a while there's also a definite "shared culture" here at this point (a /cov/ tourney is happening next month). Basically a big tourney culture. And the wiki isn’t meant to be just /v/ encroaching but encompassing all tourneys.
Doesn't matter if bejita reveals the answer or not, I'll still filter the newfags either way.
>>105932
/dbs/ are kinda an entity just accepted, they can be funny to have around and are very innocent given there will never be an /a/ tournament
Their main issue is they are kind of very repetitive and it's getting a bit dull, they need to come up with newer content if they want to stick around they way they want to
>>105970
If there was an /a/ tournament us SCHOLARS wouldn't be much different, we'd just have actual picks to campaign and make OC for now.
Battler lost the right to a crown steal when his fans responded to a funpost that nominated BBC.
Nightshift's biggest crime was when she banned Pot of Greed for not being sentient in 2022 when it definitely is sentient
Recette really isn't that bad of a winner as everyone makes it out to be
The worst winner is batter he's not even the most /v/ character in his game.
>>105985
>the judge
Speaking of that, anybody know what the "Judges" like Yotsuba or Armstrong even do? I've been in every major tourney since Queen 2021 and not once do I remember any of them doing anything at all, I only remembered NSA and co-hosts like Balls and Ghost making the calls
Every tournament rivalry is inevitably shit, forced or not.
>>106019
nta but two individual characters have such a low chance of ever meeting in the bracket that any rivals will likely never have more than one confrontation unless you use surrogates (which is gay) or do transitive "well a beat b and b beat c so that means a beat c" shit. and focusing on a rivalry can divert attention away from a character's actual matchup and make it less exciting. (see krabs and squidward)
>>106018
Are there even rivalries?
Coming from /co/, outside characters from the same franchise bickering and people wanting one to be the series winner over the other the only actual rivalry I know of is one where two characters have never qualified. Everything else is just pretty much forced for a year or two based off a matchup until it dies off entirely
I think if you're a consistent round one jobber you should be barred from a tournament.
>>106033
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/List_of_Characters_Who_Have_Appeared_in_Every_Tournament
Ban every one of these characters.
>>106034
I find it funny how King has easily the worst batch of characters here. Every other tournament has strong, deserving characters and a lot has good campaigns too. Ms. has Jessica Rabbit of course, everyone agrees she should be in the Elite 8 already, but also Gwen, Lola, Kim, Pacifica, I'd be happy with any of these in the Elite 8. Mr. has Popeye, Scrooge, Donald, Kermit, they all deserved to be in already. Queen, all of them would be fine Elite 8 members. The only good and deserving characters in King is probably Falcon, maybe Bowser and Asura too, and they're all not nearly as good as the other tournament characters that I've mentioned. Everyone else is either silent, boring, or not even Elite 8 material.
>>106040
*Queen, almost all of them would be fine Elite 8 members.
There's only one one or two misses there.
Marvin should have won the entire tournament over Grevious - It would have been hilarious for Bugs, Daffy and Tyr'ahnee to be BTFO forever when a equally beloved LT character cruised past them for a win, would have been a greater alien and underdog pick then the two Mr /co/ winners, would have been an interesting plotline if Marvin could have finished the /co/nqueror takedown, and perhaps most of all it would have retroactively prevented NSA from getting one of her potentially rigged heavily campaigned husbandos she artfagged for from getting the satisfaction of a win
>>103504
Kiryu would be a top tier winner if he did more, he just needs a consistent campaign and more vocal fans. It hurts to see what happened to him in King last year, so maybe I'll step up to help in 2025.
Zorak is alright
I'd rather have Space Ghost himself be the winner, but Zorak is still fine. The uptick in Zorakposting made it worth it.
>>106067
Zorak is not alright and here's why
1: he's evil
2: he's mean and cruel
3: he's a bad listener
4: he blinks too much
5: he's evil
now I agree with you on Space Ghost winning, he's way more handsome then that evil mantis and is good, Space Ghost would make a great winner
>>106067
Pretty much my opinion. Space Ghost would have been a natural winner, but Zorak had some strong arguments in his own camp. Realistically, either would have been a fine pick to represent Coast to Coast and everything around that revival.
>>106070
Same. Although it's crazy looking back and realizing he was literally the last fucking legit winner before NSA started slowly making her moves and that's something hard to process for me.
>>106081
It pains me greatly that Midna could've been her first big rig. I adore Midna and was over the moon when she won.
>>106083
I feel your pain because I was rooting for every champion that year and now it's just painful to look back and realize the undetected damage NSA has been causing. The fact she doesn't have any remorse of tainting some people's favorite characters is what stands out.
>>106083
In hindsight, I find it doubtful NSA rigged Midna vs Hornet considering that archived post where she urges Midnabros to campaign harder, and the fact Midna wasn't one of her personal picks to begin with (we alredy saw she didn't do this with a character she actually fangirls like Skeletor vs Zim).
But it DOES give me the feeling she held some form of spite against Hornet.
>>106088
This. Someone pointed out how she could have changed Mr. /co/‘s votes last year to literally get a number allowing Black Hat in, so if she actually was down to rig I feel she only just started to test the waters last year. Might have gone way further if not caught, but I do doubt that either 2022 tournament on /v/ was tampered in terms of actual results.
>>106092
Exactly. What I truly suspect is that NSA allowed for rigging when it matched up with her preferences and biases.
idk where to ask this but is NSA using the discord account mentioned on the wiki? I've added him as I need to ask him something important but I was just wondering if there's a better way of contacting?
>>106110
I still think Daffy could have beaten Zorak if his posters didn't act too cocky during that round
>>106120
Daffybro here, I won't let that happen again. I want Daffy to win for real this time, I'll do anything to achieve that
>>106124
In that case she would go on and keep the results open for Queen, King onwards instead of her own method
Besides, nothing suggests she would have a reason to support him.
>>106081
>Fang, a host bungled finale, is probably one of the cleanest winners in the NSA era simply because we have access to all the forms
Irony
>>106126
We already know that NSA at the very least removed votes in the finale of Ms. /co/, so the precedent had been set by that point. She probably hid the forms because removing votes manually eventually started taking too long and it was easier to just make her own results.
>Besides, nothing suggests she would have a reason to support him.
It didn't have to be about any of the finalists. Keep in mind that the finale of Mr. /co/ was when we had the vote to keep NSA in power.
>>106132
Ironic when making her own results have taken her far longer. Case in point, there's the only instance her she probably could have tried to rig Black Hat but couldn't.
NSA evidently wasn't able to alter the votes however she please because if that were the case she wouldn't be in the threads begging for votes (see: the WuyaxEris porno promise) or stirring the pot to turn the threads against certain contestants. I believe she deleted a good amount of qualifier vptes just to make Black Hat qualify though.
>>106105
Hi /tnt/, yes its me, my death was...greatly exaggerated (lol megamind reference XD)
long story short I've seen what's happened recently with NSA and I'm considering making my own pastebin, it may drop sometime this week or the next or I might wait to see if NSA does post hers I'm considering finishing the meme tournament as amends, maybe I could post the pastebin during the finals?
>>106146
ah fuck it, I'll use my old one
I see someone has found the password to Balls's non-secure Tripcode.
>>106152
give me a 4chan thread and I'll make a post with my secure trip so you'll know its actually me
>>106142
Welp, I have only got one question, at least for now.
Did you honestly expect something like this would happen, or did all the shit we uncovered surrounding NSA actually surprise you?
>>106163
I agree with this anon. She isn't trustworthy in the slightest. The best option we have is to rely on Balls, Coayy and Samaritanon for future tournaments.
Unpppular opinion: these are the things I want to see in a Balls pastebin:
1. Clarification on how Mr /co/ 2023 had so many votes removed up to Black Hat getting just enough votes to qualify with 26 votes (when usual is 75-125 votes are needed minimum)
2. Clarification on how “randomized” seeding wasn’t randomized and how Balls and NSA picked the matchups themselves, especially in regards to if this was used to punish characters not liked by hosts or that beat their mains
2. That randomized seeding will be confirmed to be going away as an ill-faded experiment
>>106166
First point is obvious. Second point is debatable. Third one is just getting into retarded bias territory.
Woah bro... Remember Tyr'ahnee vs. Sticks? That was such a hype round 1 match-up. I was on the edge of my seat, who could possibly win this? I was shocked when Tyr'ahnee, a top 5 seed, beat Sticks, a bottom 5 seed. What a kino match. Hail seeded brackets
>>106173
But wasn't it funny when Sticks beat Tyr'ahnee in round 1 of Tag Team this year?
>>106172
I don’t think it’s retarded to think that the voters should get to decide what the seedings and hence matchups are based off the number of votes for characters and not hosts personally getting to decide what they want the matchups to be
>>106175
You know, there’s a third option here called actual randomization.
I think we need a real round 1 bloodbath for more people to seriously start reconsidering getting rid of randomized seeding.
>>106177
You have too much trust in hosts to randomize once and go with what was given
>>106176
It doesn't? Aside from being tie-breakers, seeds more so just tell how much support that certain character possess. With the old seeding system, the top seeded contestant in this tournament had to fight who essentially was a contestant that qualified by the thread of its hair. It was near universally a stomp by the 1st seed, followed by 2nd, 3rd, etc. Until we reach the midcarders where it was a coinflip.
Maybe if NSA wasn't so busy drawfagging, she would have the time to manually remove all those "rigged" votes and open the forms, but then again, we're still waiting for the finale docs.
The only thing randomized actually does is give a slightly better chance of luck to underdogs.
>>106187
This. Furthermore, it's not impossible for a three digit seed to win a tournament with traditional seeding.
>>106187
...and makes the matches more interesting.
>>106189
Interesting 1st round matches can take place regardless of the seeding method.
>>106189
>>106190
In my opinion, the randomization has shown us that low seeds are fully capable of holding themselves on their own in these tournaments and there is even a high probability of a lower seed defeating a high seeder.
And as >>106192 said, Desiree still has the closest matchup to fang, unfathomably enough.
It would be more interesting if we barred a years top 128, every round was randomized, and crown steal happened.
>>106203
>It would be more interesting if we barred a years top 128
That would effectively create a minor and major league. The major league would be all the powerhouses that got barred the first year, the minor league would be the scrubs that get in the next year and also a couple of forgotten powerhouses from last year who effortlessly cruise their way to the final rounds. Sounds kinda interesting, but also like a recipe for disaster.
>>106203
I mean, the whole reason why I fucking despise the losers bracket is because there wasn't a crown steal. This begs the question why the fuck even allow it in the first place when there isn't going to be a crown steal because that's the whole point, a hero which fell early rises from the ashes and gets a second chance at redemption.
I would've been fucking fine if there was a crown steal for losers bracket
>T. raisin
Here's the randomization seeding redpill, which will make some of you seethe but it's true.
The only people who support it are those who main campaign low card seeds (90-128). The say it's to make it interesting but the reason they support it is they feel entitled to face off against other low minnows instead of higher seeds they will lose to instantly because they make posts in support of said character. They do not want to do what you're supposed to do, which is use the rounds you're in to campaign and encourage future year support to turn from a low-ender to a high-end champion contender like Grevious, but instead get cheap gratification as an "underdog" who gets "campaign momentum" after getting an easy path and defeating a 114th seed and a 79th seed early on if they luck into it. They want to do what Marvin did but without the part that he faced nothing but tough opponents far higher seeded then him starting round 1. They want easy opponents up until sweet 16 and even up to elite 8 and hoping "underdog/campaign momentum" gets them there, which there's definite examples of this the last 2 years though I won't name them.
If you're a 125th seed, get raped by Hank like you're supposed to but show me why in future years you deserve to reach that high level because many have done so. I have more respect for that then the Elite 8 member who only faced once opponent above a 64th seed to get there.
>>106210
I didn't want to start it but... yeah this. I've said from the start it's basically campaigner meta bias.
>>106210
>They do not want to do what you're supposed to do, which is use the rounds you're in to campaign and encourage future year support to turn from a low-ender to a high-end champion contender
Adding on to this, more people need to realize that randomized can conversely fuck over fan-favorites who have gone from mid or low-card status to championship contenders by pitting them from the get-go with long time high-seeders.
>>106208
A "crown-steal" is cool and works for an actual contest of skill, not one of popularity. There is no point in having it, the winner is going to stay the winner.
The point of the Loser's Bracket is simply to make the threads more fun by keeping characters that lose still in, for the honorary title of 9th place.
>inb4 but there's no point!
The point is just to have FUN.
>>106210
Wrong, I just really like randomization.
Kinda want a tourney where everything is decided by luck; the characters that qualify, the matches every round, who wins the matches, everything. Might do it here as a little side tournament, could be fun.
Hold up, since when were seeds a deciding factor on what is supposed to win??? I remember vividly that the main deciding factor in voting is characters likability and your personal bias, then campaigning if the voter is neutral on both reps.
Seeds literally only tell how many people give a fuck on a particular character, some low seeds might be low-seeds because they were on some fucked up side of the nomination list and are missed by potential supporters. The actual characters-worth is told through the matches they've won not the level of seeds they got.
>>106214
If you had an address and revealed your location i'd sent a pipe bomb to your house you fucking twat.
>>106208
>This begs the question why the fuck even allow it in the first place when there isn't going to be a crown steal because that's the whole point
Not to call you NSAbro but this is almost word-for-word something NSA said while posting without her trip.
>>106220
NSA still decided to keep losers bracket like a retard, I would've liked if they actually KEPT the crown steal and losers brackets or remove the losers bracket entirely. The amount of things that were notable about losers bracket can be counted with your hand.
>>106221
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>mY mAiN lOsT rOuNd 1
>lOsErS bRaCkEt KiNo!1!1!!!!!1@
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I don't want randomization anymore because I'm a Murder Drones, Madotsuki, and Johnny Cage main.
>>106225
Muder Drones would have lost to whoever they had went up against regardless of seeding because they are Murder Drones.
>>106223
Oh boy, I sure do love straw men
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>WHY ARE LOSERS STILL BEING POSTED
>YOU SHOULD ONLY PAY ATTENTION TO MYYYYYYYY CHARATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No more seeding and no more randomization. Characters will face ones in similar tiers to them on the VS Battles Wiki.
>>106173
See anon, that's actually the entire point. Round 1 has 64 matchups, and everyone's attention is scattered between those 64 so that no attention is particularly on one. They should be less interesting or more obvious so that as later rounds go on we have less matchups to discuss but stronger and more interesting rounds.
Duck Match is just the perfect example - It was forced too early with randomized seeding when it would have never happened before round 3 otherwise. It sucked because we had 31 other matchups at the same time so attention wasn't given to it the way it should have, so only a small group of autists cared. If that match happened later like it should have people would have put sole attention on it and it would have lived up to the hype, especially if it was an Elite 8 matchup. Results might have varied as well.
>>106230
>Mfw
>>106228
Yes, fuck losers bracket. Tired of seeing the same characters posted even when they lost because their fans are delusional enough into thinking they can win the cope bracket. Characters who lost twice in a row are super jobbers, because we clearly need more jobbers in these tournaments.
All rules and rulefagging has just been a gradual process of equalizing popularity. Literally every one. If you just want what's more interesting that's fine but I'd disagree and if you're a underdoggo campoon bias meta fag you should suck it up instead of trying to warp the tourney to be some /general/ wank.
>>106236
Just vote and close the thread, come back in a day. Clearly you only care about the winner.
“This character comes from a creator who already has a winner!” Is a stupid reason to vote against them. It’s not Samurai Jack’s fault that Genndy creates kino characters most of the time
>>106241
Murder Drone characters are who every single contestant hopes their round 1 opponent is
>>106244
Remember when they coped and called Leela a powerhouse after they lost to her? When you lose to a midcarder maybe you don’t deserve to win
>>106245
Name a single matchup round of 64 or earlier that the entire thread was focused on, and not a meme tournament either
>>106217
>since when were seeds a deciding factor on what is supposed to win
Since forever? That's how we break ties.
Wait, I'm retarded and replied to the wrong fag.
>>106210
That's a nice wall of text, but you unironically don't know what you're talking about because you're probably an entitled high-mid seed fag who never has to lose Round 1 and wait until next year. Sure is nice to tell others how to campaign from your ivory tower.
And who are those "many that have done so"? How many characters can you actually name who went from low seeds getting beaten by high seeds in Round 1 to E8 members?
>>106255
Oh, him.
>That's a nice wall of text, but you unironically don't know what you're talking about because you're probably an entitled high-mid seed fag who never has to lose Round 1 and wait until next year. Sure is nice to tell others how to campaign from your ivory tower.
>And who are those "many that have done so"? How many characters can you actually name who went from low seeds getting beaten by high seeds in Round 1 to E8 members?
>>106249
If it has to be the only match left for people to pay attention to it, I don't think it's "hyped".
>>106256
>How many characters can you actually name who went from low seeds getting beaten by high seeds in Round 1 to E8 members?
John Ward went from barely qualifying and losing to a high seed in round 2 to being a high seed himself and made semi-finals just one year later.
>>106256
>How many characters can you actually name who went from low seeds getting beaten by high seeds in Round 1 to E8 members?
Not him, but
>Tyr'ahnee
>Grievous
>Tom
>Daffy
>Wallace
>Squidward
>Spongebob
>Zorak
>Max
>Xavier
>Optimus
>Eris
>Brisby
>Madotsuki
>Hornet
>Demifiend
>John Ward
Just off the top of my head.
>>106258
Wrong, I never watched Murder Bots and voted against them every time. That doesn't change how stupid and entitled it is for a high-seed fag to tell a low-seed fag
>oh well, you're just supposed to lose round 1 to high seeds bro, that's just your lot, just deal with it, if you campaign hard enough you'll win eventually like that one guy who barely won after 4 years and no one else ever
>campaign for a high seeder
>tfw they still lose early
>>106256
You're probably an entitled qualified character fag who never fails to make it to round 1 and have to wait until next year. Sure is nice to tell others how to campaign from your ivory tower.
>>106271
Eh the match itself garnered some interest at the time but what people remember best is the aftermath, not the battle itself.
I believe Ms. /co/ 2021 and King of /v/ 2022 specifically were rigjobs to a certain extent.
>>106262
Retardbro...
>Tyr'ahnee, Tom, Daff, Wallace, Eris
Those were never underdogs.
>Brisby
Might have been rigged. Not saying she was, but might have been.
>Madotsuki
Moot because the first year didn't even have seeds. And look at where she ended up last year.
And the rest of this list got into E8 with randomized brackets. It's almost like they actually help or something.
>>106272
Actually, some of my picks have never qualified. But the discussion on randomized vs. seeded doesn't concern unqualified characters to begin with.
>>106264
Nothing entitled about that, popular characters beating less popular characters is just the tendency regardless of seeding. Entitled is constantly wanting to change how the tourney works to accommodate specifically lowcards. At a certain point you have to concede that it's by and large a popularity contest for the board and not a general wank for tourneyheads.
>>106276
Nope, Murder Drones is complete shit and shouldn't even qualify
Haven't watched it btw
>>106275
>Tyr'ahnee, Tom, Daff, Wallace, Eris
Yes they were, newfag-kun. Tyr'ahnee even was regarded as the original campaign fan-favorite of Ms. /co/. Both Tom and Daffy were consistent earlt exists up until their big break in 2020, and Wallace went from being a three digit seed who lost to powerhouse to making Elite Eight the following year.
>>106277
Then why do we even have 128 characters competing instead of 64? Let's cut off all those worthless underdogs and let real popular picks duke it out.
>smarks whining again
If your characters not dimes... they're not dimes. Quit trying to push your indie shitters on the crowd.
>>106210
>The only people who support it are those who main campaign low card seeds (90-128). The say it's to make it interesting but the reason they support it is they feel entitled to face off against other low minnows instead of higher seeds they will lose to instantly because they make posts in support of said character. They do not want to do what you're supposed to do, which is use the rounds you're in to campaign and encourage future year support to turn from a low-ender to a high-end champion contender like Grevious, but instead get cheap gratification as an "underdog" who gets "campaign momentum" after getting an easy path and defeating a 114th seed and a 79th seed early on if they luck into it. They want to do what Marvin did but without the part that he faced nothing but tough opponents far higher seeded then him starting round 1. They want easy opponents up until sweet 16 and even up to elite 8 and hoping "underdog/campaign momentum" gets them there
damn right. you gonna cry about it, bitch boy?
>his characters qualify
>>106280
Wow, you really got me on this petty meaningless formality that doesn't change anything. These characters are popular. Their popularity is comparable to Hank or Jack. They were always going to start doing well eventually regardless of campaigning.
>>106281
128 is the tradition and it will not change (and couldn't if we wanted too since mods locked it into that timeframe)
>All randomization leads too is campooning and underwhelming wins!"
Anon says as Top 8 generally remains the same.
Seriously go look back at every tournament hosted in 2023 (even stuff like /an/ and /aco/)
The only characters I could find fit under this bill (clinton) are:
>Alex (97)
>Clover (92)
>Optimus Prime (101)
>Taokaka (103)
>Froppy (101)
Couldn't even find ones for King /v/ and The /an/lympics.
>>106289
At best randomized facilitates the path for certain low seeds. At worst it kills momentum by pitting heavy hitters and fan-favorites too early.
ENOUGH! ALL OF YOU!
>>106281
It's tradition, the agreeable sweet spot of time and numbers, and plenty of seeds in those ranges do well and some have won before. It's not a rule that its a popularity contest but that's its basic nature since the start. Again remember that this was always about the board and not a small groups feeling.
>>106292
You asked for examples of E8 contestants who were previously early exists and/or low seeds, and I gave you examples of E8 contestants who were previously early exists and/or low seeds,.
>N
Eternal reminder Recette (113) and Alipheese (117) could reach the Elite Eight without the need of randomization.
>>106294
That reminds me that I thought of a King Boo and Space Ghost team for /cov/
>>106294
Arguing is fun.
>>106299
Recette technically never lost due to her insane momentum and luck, so she doesn't fit the mythical bill for the Round 1 jobber who comes back stronger next year. Same for Batter.
>>106301
NIGGER
>>106281
This. People wanted a 256 tournament are retards. The 64 tournament is the way of the future. No more shitty obscure underdogs shitting up the bracket. Now popular characters can finally win this popularity contest.
>>106294
Kill yourself.
Man, didn't realize so many NSA bootlickers were still around wanting to keep her personal pet project of random seeds to help her picks
>>106305
Yeah but that's not my point, just that you can be a total low-card seed and still win a bracket using traditional seeding.
>the N actually stands for NSA
>>106296
So you're unironically comparing every Round 1 loser to a pick like Tyr'ahnee.
>dude why can't you just do as well as a popular coomfu from a nostalgic millenial cartoon?
>>106313
That arguably happened exactly because people were already getting tired of high seeds winning after two years.
>HANDS ARE LE GOOD E8 MEMBERS BECAUSE… THEY BEAT KING BOO
I want whatever drugs these anons are having if this is what makes them feel better
Ms. /co/ being a pure popularity contest is a bad thing because /co/ has shit taste
Anyone who likes any character who won a NSA-hosted tournament is a NSA bootlicker.
>>106316
If she's so popular, why was she low-seeded? That's because she isn't, stop kidding yourself.
>>106328
>If she's so popular, why was she low-seeded?
Because the first year barely had 400 people voting? Also Tyr'ahnee in 2018 lost Round 2, not Round 1, so she doesn't even fit the question I was asking.
>>106335
Because the first tournament was comprised of 300 something weird people who though Black Canary was a more fitting Elite 8 member.
>>106336
Then come back later with your round one jobber when the voters are a little different and then they can also become Elite 8 members. It's not that hard.
>>106334
Seeding better indicates fandom concentration. Not general spread of popularity and likeability. "if it's a popularity contest just have it end at qualifier" has been deboonked many times.
>>106301
nut
>>106339
Same here. Will be nice if he can clarify on recent incidents and perhaps even help quell some rigging concerns, but above all I'm glad he's not dead or something like that.
>>106343
I would like to ask him how NSA remaining as the main /v/ host for 2023 in spite of the claim Balls would be the one to tske the reins and stuff like the Loser's Bracket came about.
BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS
>106340
Okay I'm voting for Murderbots now
there was some valid criticism at the beginning that I actually agreed with but now you're bringing shit up on purpose to make them look bad
>>106330
Told you and Goku should have raped Lorifag when you had the chance, so I could watch. Bejitabro btw
Here's a history of all the significant tournaments
>Mr /co/ 2018
>Ms /co/ 2018
>Queen /v/ 2019
>King /v/ 2019
>Tag-Team 2019
That is it. These decided the best characters in their medium and the best duo. Every other tournament is worthless since the characters are all jobbers who lost before to the best and hence cannot be a best character in their medium.
>>106337
The majority tastes haven't changed much since 2020. 2018 was just the first year with like 40% of the regular voterbase participating.
>>106002
I could try that for /cov/ since I want to campaign for Wright and Birdman.
I hope Toph jobs early again in 2025. The meltdowns from tophfags are always pretty funny
I hope Ammy jobs early again in 2025. The meltdowns from ammyfags are always pretty funny
I’ve lost a significant amount of interest in the tournaments after Fang won. She was the heart of Ms for me and now that she’s gone I don’t know who to go for. I haven’t felt that pull or excitement yet like I did with Fang Gang.
I’ve lost a significant amount of interest in the tournaments after Recette won. She was the heart of Queen for me and now that she’s gone I don’t know who to go for. I haven’t felt that pull or excitement yet like I did with Aerd Gang.
I’ve lost a significant amount of interest in the tournaments after NSA won. She was the heart of 4chan for me and now that she’s gone I don’t know who to go for. I haven’t felt that pull or excitement yet like I did with Rig Nigs.
I’ve lost a significant amount of interest in the tournaments after I won. I was the heart of the tournaments and now that I'm gone I don’t know who to go for. I haven’t felt that pull or excitement yet like I did with myself.
Was my post really funny enough to copypasta?
>>106368
you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now
you're not the boss of me now and you're not so big
>>106363
>Ammy
What a fun way of spelling Bayonetta and her only fan being the host NYEHEHEHEHEHE
SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
let's talk about actual controversial takes already
>>106142
You're alive, holy shit!
I'm glad you're okay bro, I missed you
>>106325
I preferred Reginald smearing Henry by making it seemed that he's into cuckolding and futa and trying to pin it on the hands.
>>106393
Here you go, I gotta agree she IS better drawn as a cat!
>>106388
I'm sure the reference helps, but this just makes NightShift look like a female Megamind.
>>104701
>but I do wonder how Spinel vs. Monarch would have gone down
Spinel wins lol. Peak Fang vs. Spinel is the hypothetical giga power match. But even then probably Spinel.
>>106396
GATO SEXO
Characters like Hex Maniac and Christopher Robin are fine imo. Both are pretty relevant for /v/ culture, with Hex even having like bi-daily threads that only ever fail to hit bump limit when Jannies delete it
It feels like a Big Mouth situation where people on X (formerly Twitter's) go all "ohhhh this thing is worse then hitler" and then you look at the source material and it has 5 stars & 7 seasons of content. Not saying Big Mouth is actually good but it would be a lie to say it's not popular with normal people
A lot of anons bitch about Christopher Robin not being an actual vidya character but I seldom see those same criticisms aimed at Pepsiman and I honestly never understood why. Pepsiman never struck me as a "/v/-core" character yet he always comes close to making E8 despite being a silent pick.
>>106434
>Robin isn't.
But how do you know that if he never qualified for Mr. /co/? If he was known for his Disney movie surely he'd be guaranteed to be in the top 128.
>>106433
/v/ has given up ability to decide what constitutes /v/ when their pet pick AM is the heaviest favorite to win any tournament since 2021
>>106436
B-but he's so le heckin kino and he is in le heckin schizo alliance! He should win the vidya tournament! It you disagree you're literally NSA
>>106438
>Robin is known for the book, i.e. /lit/
Originating from a book =/= mainstream familiarity. The only time people remotely gave a shit about the Winnie the Pooh books was when they entered public domain.
>>106438
>I don't care, that doesn't make him known for being video games.
this is just being difficult for no reason. pooh's home run derby is undoubtedly /v/ culture and to deny it representation because it happens to be a licensed game (which is a big part of what made it notable in the first place) is ridiculous.
Why the fuck are you people are so obtuse about Christopher Robin's elegibility? The real problem with him is that his HRD appearance isn't even an actual character, just a meme OC /v/ made up.
>>106447
That's one of the other things I've been saying, it's not even the actual Christopher Robin, it's just some shitty Sonic.exe-tier garbage OC.
Plus, nobody even gives a shit about him, as evident by the last two King tournaments.
>>106447
Battler is also a meme OC /v/ made up and he's just as much of a video game character as Christopher Robin.
>>106447
...and?
He just barely missed out on the Elite 8 on his first ever run, it's very clear people like him
>>106451
He's from a visual novel that can't even be called a game like Ace Attorney, he shouldn't be allowed either, but visual novels are for some reason allowed in a video game tournament.
>>106448
>Most of the people on /v/ now probably don't even know what this is.
holy fucking cope
>>106455
Thanks for reiterating my point for no real reason? Battler and Christopher are both novel characters.
>>106453
>round 1 against silent low seed
>round 2 against silent low-mid seed
>round 3 against battler (lol)
>loses round 4
wow, definitely not just luck
>>106456
>"Man Nightshift is such a fucking loser who hates specific characters for dumb reasons"
/tnt/ says as it then complains about the majority voting for a popular character they like because they think they're attractive and not because of their epic campaign with chicken scratch drawings and anal vore RP
>106459
>>106460
this was written with queen in mind so a better example for king would probably be just finding them funnier
I think part of the reason we as a community let Pepsiman keep winning is because the word "Pepsi" is just funny
Mr. Incredible was unironically Mr. /co/‘s best E8 member in 2020 and it’s a shame he was immediately shunned just because he wasn’t part of any scat RP.
>>106439
>still peddling the schizo alliance strawman when his current campaign has nothing to do with it
actually didn't Christopher Robin get a bunch of horny posts in 2022?
In the midst of these Christopher Robin arguments I have yet to see someone bring up the fact that he was directly based on an actual person.
>>106474
Jesus rule, can't say he's real if you haven't seen the fucker
>>106473
Yes? I remember someone was posting a very infamous shotacon doujin right around the moment it was announced he lost to Luigi.
>>106480
Based Mr. Incredible for making it far based on recognition and not because he ate someone’s shit and had a gay wedding.
>>106472
I'm asking "What?" because I don't get what any of that has to do with who he replied to.
>>106476
Jesus died centuries ago, bro, Christopher Robin died around 28 years ago.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Robin_Milne
>>106485
That’s correct, it was a time before those things were requirements to get to Sweet 16 at the very least.
>>106468
You seem to think that just because the 128th seed loser started up this massive roleplay session that the entire tournament was this
The entirety of the 2020 Mr /co/ Elite 8 were not roleplayed and was not succeeded in roleplay in the slightest.
>>106487
…so what was the issue with Mr. Incredible being touted as a “silent pick” then?
>>106489
Back before that tournament roleplay was basically nonexistent, obviously art OC and campaigns existed
Mr Incredible became known as the silent pick because he managed to make Elite 8 without barely being mentioned at all. It’s not just there wasn’t vocal supporters or any OC made, it’s also that he basically was a nonexistent entity in thread discussion yet still make Elite 8 without a mention.
If you weren't there for a tournament you shouldn't comment on it, period.
/tnt/ definitely has a trend of hating popular characters and powerhouses. Probably because they overshadow the characters they autistically shill that don’t even come close to qualifying.
do you guys think gordon ramsay should like someone's cooking solely because they've excessively drew stuff for it and written an entire eulogy that's attached to the plate?
>106481
>106496
>106497
>>106498
Middle comment here, I’m not that guy. /tnt/ constantly complains about powerhouses no matter how much OC and campaigning they get because they overshadow their wholesome underdog scrungus they roleplay as
>>106496
That's genuinely false they hate underdogs now or characters that are jokes.
>>106496
Sure thing champ! That's why /tnt/'s response to Ms. /co/'s super duper campaign finale was lukewarm at best, while Mr. /co/'s 1st vs three-time elite eight finale was beloved by pretty much everyone. People here really do have a problem with powerhouses, huh!
>>106514
People here were comparing Eris vs Wuya with the Jack-Off and the threads themselves were admittedly very miserable.
>>106496
Absolutely true
/tnt/ is pretty infamous for having a hateboner over Courage and Daffy for being "boring non-campaign" picks
If /tnt/ hated powerhouses than Mao Mao should've won Heroes over Hank
>>106521
Courage maybe but I don't remember anyone shitting on Daffy for having no thread presence, which is fair because he absolutely does have vocal supporters and fanartists
>>106522
/tnt/'s hateboner is less over perceived powerhouses and more over perceived "silent" characters than powerhouses, hence the Kiryu and Snake hate (despite the fact both of them had supporters/OC) but like Hank because his fans are always very vocal
>>106528
>asking for a Christopher Robin doujin and posts Toon Link after getting it
the truth comes out...
>>106501
>/tnt/ constantly complains about powerhouses no matter how much OC and campaigning they get
If this is about the AM doomposters I think that's just people wanting to make fake outrage.
/v/ really should just stick to STRICTLY video game characters. I'm sick of this shit. Not commercials, not books, not cartoons. Doomguy, Ace attorney, the Mario crew, the SMT characters, No More Heroes, Hollow Knight, Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Cave story, Sonic the Hedgehog, Metal Gear, Team Fortress 2, and so on. VIDEO GAMES. No AM, No Pepsiman, no Christopher Robin. Hell, no Dracula or Geralt. They'd be sad but worthy sacrifices to the cause of ending the stupid fucking rules lawyering, especially considering just how many ACTUAL video game characters barely miss out on qualifying over meme garbage.
>guys the angry funny block computer had a point and click adventure thirty years after his book came out, isn't that kino
>whoa look, it's literally Pepsi lmao
Fuck off. I want to be in a video game tournament for VIDEO GAMES. I don't give a fuck if you think they're "kino" they aren't a fucking Video game character. Make up your own tournament if you want to wank them off so much.
>>106531
The rules are simple:
>character must appear in a video game
>character must belong to a video game franchise
That should be it.
>>106531
>Hell, no Dracula or Geralt.
On what basis? Banning Dracula would be especially dumb, it'd be like banning a majority of the Disney characters from /co/ because their films are adaptations of literature, or banning half the Alices from Queen of /v/ because they're based on the Lewis Carroll Alice.
Pepsiman is a dumb meme but the character as far as I'm aware does originate from a video game (and it's all he's known for anyways). You're right about Christopher Robin though I'd be alright with sacrificing him to get rid of the whitelist autism, he can compete in Mr. /co/ anyways, not that he'll actually qualify kek.
>>106541
I agree that Dracula is going too far, since he's Dracula (Castlevania), who is based on, but not literally just, Dracula (Dracula)
Pepsiman originated from Japanese commercials, made before the game. The game is the most well-known thing about him however.
>>106531
Literally the only rule should be are they known from video games. Geralt if from the Witcher series which won and beat fucking BLOODBORNE at the Game of the Year event.
AM is from a retro point and click adventure game that isn't really responsible for giving AM its recognition as the book itself is also world-renown.
>>106546
It's debatable. Would the story have as much renown as it has today weren't it for the game? Usually when people mention "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" both the game and the story tend to come to mind.
I definitely don't think AM the character would have the same status and recognition if the game never existed.
>>106503
The most kino finals of this year was Alexander the Great vs Jesus in Emperor of /his/
Think about it, you have one of the greatest and most legendary figures in history against the central figure of the most widespread religion on the planet. I'd say I wish Jesus would've won because He's both a historical figure and a humanities figure and thus more fitting, but humanities/religion vs atheism autism is the cancer killing /his/ so I think Alexander the Great winning was for the best.
Anyways if we get another /his/ tournament I'm nominating CHADrico Dandolo
would there be merit as to making a separate thread to post the NSA/OFA related stuff on? could also double up as a thread hosts can post official standings in?
>>106552
Ironic considering a good deal of /co/ characters are derived from /lit/ media. Hey, how many of you know Bluth's The Secret of NIMH is a book adaptation?
I'm not even samefagging, baiting, or being a contrarian for contrarian's sake when I say this, but I always get the chance whenever I can to engage with the original sources for lesser-known characters that are generally backed by campaigns (both /tnt/ and the main boards) just to get a perspective as to how these picks could be appealing to some anons. Yet, more often than not, I can ultimately see why these characters/works are labeled "literally whos" and thus are not worth my vote for future tournaments, especially those in which I have to assess 128 different contestants. Yes, having a campaign is perfectly acceptable, but at the end of the day you shouldn't confuse your passion with likelihood. If I personally don't find some characters interesting (or likable) in the bracket, then why should I bother rooting for them when I could be backing characters that I find more compelling? The fact that anons believe they have the authority to tell me which characters I should or shouldn't like based on popularity alone is genuinely insane to me, and I normally have no sympathy for those who whine about relatively quiet picks making it far. Perhaps get better taste next time for me to consider supporting your mains.
>>106557
The only fags who I’ve seen push “campaigned picks” and what I have predicted wil be, are murder drones fags. No matter how much campaign you do, it will not elivate a utterly worthless character with the buenost zoomer-core show on youtube.
>>106557
Nothing wrong with just voting for a favorited charactr. That's how it should be. Problem has always been voting for tourney meta reasons unrelated to that.
guys i'm not baiting but [obviously idiotic statement phrased in an inflammatory way]
>>106553
Half are picture books or other novels with pictures that constitute /co/, and the other half are so derivative from the source material they are basically OCs. A bit different then adding AVGN and Nostalgia Critic to your tournament.
The whole rule wasn't even for that but more for people who wanted to nominate Goku, Michael Jackson, Sora and Sonic
>>106553
Ah, but the book has a protagonist named "Mrs. Frisby". We nominate the MOVIE character "Mrs. Brisby". Sjhe's valid.
>>106564
>Half are picture books or other novels with pictures that constitute /co/, and the other half are so derivative from the source material they are basically OCs.
Not really. Everyone knows characters such as Coraline and Alice originate in books with relatively faithful /co/ adaptations to their source material, but we have no issue with them participating because of their importance to medium and board presence.
>>106567
The difference is /co/ knows the nuances and isn't fucking retarded like /v/
>>106566
To be fair, Brisby is only called that in the film because of concerns over copyright conflicts with the frisbee toy.
>>106531
>Not commercials
THIS PERSON IS A FAGGOT, LAUGH LAUGH AT THE FAGGOT NOW
>>106560
Power to you, I'm just not going to vote for them or even be surprised if they fall short of making the bracket.
>>106561
I watched MD back when Ms. /co/ was kicking off (perfectly aware that the pilot didn't accurately reflect the season's quality) and the show ultimately couldn't resonate with me even if those campaigns did have a few impressive from artfags. But campaigners being desperate wasn't why I voted for Leela and Raven over the MD girls. It was because I like Futurama and Teen Titans more. There's no deeper meaning behind it.
>>106562
I don't give a shit about the tourney meta, I'm still not going to vote for a character I have remotely no interest in just to alleviate anons' worries. It's just manipulative and dishonest to me as a voter.
>>106563
Glad you looked at it, at least.
>>106496
4 votes hurts but I'm still a big Yakuza fan and would like to see Kiryu win someday, I just wish the circumstances weren't like this.
>>106574
Don't reply to multiple people at once, apparently that's "mass replying" and someone might get mad.
>>106567
The original Alice in Wonderland was a picture book so she qualifies regardless
>>106601
That depends on how much you want to stretch the definition of what constitutes as /co/. That wasn’t my point with that post though, just that /v/ is overtly obtuse and puts too much concern on the fact certain characters originated from external media, when all that should matter is that the video game iterations of said characters have enough iconicity to stand on their own and participate.
The people who argue against having AM participate in Ko/v/ just want less competition for the crown.
>>106630
Same with Christopher Robin or Pepsiman or whoever these faggots wanna complain about next. If your literal who can't qualify over these non-vidya characters then that's your fault. Should've campaigned for someone better.
>>106639
Cope. Those characters are /v/ culture and they consistently qualify. Your literal whos are not.
>>106625
/co/ boarders and lurkers are on average more intelligent than /v/ boarders. This isn’t coming from a tournament perspective either, it is a very well known fact that /v/ is on the lowest end of intelligence spectrum while /co/ in on the higher ends.
>>106644
Um no, /co/ doesn't even come close to being the most intelligent board. Not even on the higher ends. Yes they're smarter than /v/ which is definitely in the bottom tier. /co/ is midwit at best, probably a little lower. Actual boards that would be on the higher end are boards like /lit/ and /his/.
>>106635
Definitely not everybody but I don't think it's a coincidence these arguments are resurfacing right around the same time there's a bunch of doomposting over how AM is totally gonna win this year.
>>106646
He is winning for sure
>Schizo alliance overtook /v/ voting entirely
>"Hype" campaign that always leads to stronger next time results
>Most importantly NSA seems to have hated him and rigged against him late which is going to lead to everyone wanting to "spite" NSA
There is a 99% certainty AM wins King /v/ and there hasn't been a single stronger contestants odds in any tournament since Fang in 2021, AM's odds are probably stronger then hers
>>106647
>AM's 2022 campaign had nothing to do with schizo alliance
>This isn't always a guarantee
>No? NSA being ousted is enough
>>106648
As soon as the /v/ threads get word that a specific character who had Fang-level OC support was rigged out by the hated host in semifinals every other contestant's shot minus if there's a FOTM is entirely finished
>>106647
First point will only be to his detriment going forward as people point out how many schizo characters have alresdy won and on the converse the average /v/tard who voted for Garland and Grimm based on alliance OC is not likely to do the same for a character like AM. Only a small amount of people are honestly going to care enough about the last point for it to be a deciding factor.
>>106650
>>106650
Only people on /tnt/ complained about how many schizo characters already won. The average /v/tard won't give a shit. They'll just look at the new schizo alliance OC that AM is definitely going to get, and vote for him for that alone. It worked for Batter, it worked for Grimm, it's gonna work for AM. Same as always.
>>106650
/co/ has voted for male villains to win 5 years in a row
People won't care about trends
I think Wario and Eggman friendship is forced and not entertaining
>>106651
>They'll just look at the new schizo alliance OC that AM is definitely going to get
What makes you think that? Plus, Grimm didn't even get this until the very end.
>>106654
I remember someone complaining about Eggman and saying Wario is just better in one of the stealth threads. That must've been you, Geralt.
>>106655
NTA, but we have half a decade of tournament data to go off of, it’s very obvious what boards vote for and what entices them to vote at this point
>>106658
People aren’t as original or free-thinking as you think they are and they always will manage to follow the same trends
Spitevoting is based, and I'm going to keep spitevoting in these tourneys because it weeds out the garbage and makes faggots on here seethe.
>>106659
Well, yeah. AM precisely doesn't quite fit the rest of the Ko/v/ champion line-up.
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SQL statistics:
| time taken: 0.00064802 | SELECT b.*, ppass.`password`, ( SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT `kobaboardban`.`boardid` ORDER BY `kobaboardban`.`boardid` SEPARATOR ',') FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `banid` = b.`id` GROUP BY `banid` ) AS `active_boards` FROM `kobaban` as b LEFT JOIN `kobafingerprint` fp ON b.`fingerprint_id` = fp.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON b.`password_id` = ppass.`id` WHERE ( (`iplong1` = 'd849d8d8') OR (`iplong1` <= 'd849d8d8' AND 'd849d8d8' <= `iplong2`) ) AND `type` IN(-1,0,1,2,3) AND (b.`id` IN ( SELECT `banid` FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `boardid` IN(20) ) OR `global` = 1) ORDER BY `type`,`expiration` DESC | no rows found or affected (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.06153989 | SELECT p.*, ppass.`password`, ipinfo.`ipmd5`, ipinfo.`ipcrypt`, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, s.pagenumber, s.total_posts, s.total_files, s.total_image, s.total_audio, s.total_video, s.total_swf, s.unique_ip, s.unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapoststats` s ON p.`boardid` = s.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = s.`threadid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '20' AND p.`postid` = '103504' AND p.`parentid` = '0' AND p.`deleted` != '1' UNION ALL SELECT p.*, ppass.`password`, ipinfo.`ipmd5`, ipinfo.`ipcrypt`, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, null as pagenumber, null as total_posts, null as total_files, null as total_image, null as total_audio, null as total_video, null as total_swf, null as unique_ip, null as unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` and p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '20' AND p.`parentid` = '103504' AND p.`deleted` != '1' | no error (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.05422091 | SELECT pf.`pfid`, pf.`order`, pf.`filename`, pf.`thumb`, f.* FROM `kobapostfile` pf LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` WHERE (pf.`pfid`) IN( SELECT * FROM( SELECT p.`id` FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` AND p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostfile` pf ON p.`id` = pf.`pfid` LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '20' AND p.`postid` = '103504' AND p.`parentid` = '0' AND p.`deleted` != '1' ) as sub) UNION ALL SELECT pf.`pfid`, pf.`order`, pf.`filename`, pf.`thumb`, f.* FROM `kobapostfile` pf LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` WHERE (pf.`pfid`) IN( SELECT * FROM( SELECT p.`id` FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r ON p.`boardid` = r.`boardid` and p.`postid` = r.`postid` LEFT JOIN `kobapostfile` pf ON p.`id` = pf.`pfid` LEFT JOIN `kobafile` f ON pf.`fileid` = f.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobapostpassword` ppass ON p.`password_id` = ppass.`id` LEFT JOIN `kobaipinfo` ipinfo ON p.`ip_id` = ipinfo.`id` WHERE p.`boardid` = '20' AND p.`parentid` = '103504' AND p.`deleted` != '1' ) as sub) | no error (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.00470495 | SELECT `boardid`, `parentid`, `postid` FROM `kobapost` WHERE (`boardid` = 20 AND `postid` IN(76539,69091,76967,106146,106248,106664)) AND `deleted` != 1 | no error |
actions:
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| before_validation | actions: 1 | start: 1760032840.01505400 | end: 1760032840.01505800 | took (total): 0.000004 |
| footer_meta | actions: 8 | start: 1760032840.45807400 | end: 1760032840.45814300 | took (total): 0.000069 |
| header_meta | actions: 6 | start: 1760032840.39652200 | end: 1760032840.39656700 | took (total): 0.000045 |
| setup_html | actions: 4 | start: 1760032840.39639600 | end: 1760032840.39647600 | took (total): 0.000080 |
| validation | actions: 1 | start: 1760032840.01513400 | end: 1760032840.39629300 | took (total): 0.381159 |
APCU extension loaded: YES
APCU function exists: YES
APCU enabled? YES
Memcache class exists? no
Memcached class exists? YES
Redis class exists? YES
Mode selected in config: apcu
Currently using: apcu
Used memory: 57.72MB
Available memory: 937.27MB
| key | created | ttl | deletes in | hits | size |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| kobak_thread-23-256159 | 2025-10-09 17:53:56.000 | 86400 sec | 111196 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 333kB |
| kobak_thread-23-207332 | 2025-10-09 17:54:35.000 | 86400 sec | 111235 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-207338 | 2025-10-09 17:54:25.000 | 86400 sec | 111225 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 347kB |
| kobak_thread-23-178595 | 2025-10-09 17:58:23.000 | 86400 sec | 111463 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 335kB |
| kobak_thread-23-151845 | 2025-10-09 17:53:11.000 | 86400 sec | 111151 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 349kB |
| kobak_thread-20-205694 | 2025-10-09 17:51:04.000 | 86400 sec | 111024 sec | 0 (current) / 4 (ever) | 130kB |
| kobak_thread-6-417561 | 2025-10-09 18:00:37.000 | 86400 sec | 111597 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 65kB |
| kobak_thread-23-243744 | 2025-10-09 17:55:49.000 | 86400 sec | 111309 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 347kB |
| kobak_thread-23-165164 | 2025-10-09 17:51:39.000 | 86400 sec | 111059 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 338kB |
| kobak_thread-23-257111 | 2025-10-09 17:53:49.000 | 86400 sec | 111189 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 406kB |
| kobak_thread-23-230330 | 2025-10-09 17:51:32.000 | 86400 sec | 111052 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 349kB |
| kobak_thread-20-114076 | 2025-10-09 17:51:00.000 | 86400 sec | 111020 sec | 0 (current) / 20 (ever) | 697kB |
| kobak_summary-9-447300 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-20-83928 | 2025-10-09 17:59:10.000 | 86400 sec | 111510 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 326kB |
| kobak_thread-23-208337 | 2025-10-09 17:54:19.000 | 86400 sec | 111219 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 334kB |
| kobak_thread-23-179529 | 2025-10-09 17:58:18.000 | 86400 sec | 111458 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 341kB |
| kobak_thread-23-152797 | 2025-10-09 17:53:05.000 | 86400 sec | 111145 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 373kB |
| kobak_summary-20-173225 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_summary-23-17780 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-244683 | 2025-10-09 17:55:40.000 | 86400 sec | 111300 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 358kB |
| kobak_thread-23-166153 | 2025-10-09 17:51:30.000 | 86400 sec | 111050 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 353kB |
| kobak_thread-23-280309 | 2025-10-09 17:55:46.000 | 86400 sec | 111306 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 383kB |
| kobak_summary-9-470417 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-231176 | 2025-10-09 17:51:31.000 | 86400 sec | 111051 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 3kB |
| kobak_thread-23-258099 | 2025-10-09 17:53:42.000 | 86400 sec | 111182 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 368kB |
| kobak_thread-23-231277 | 2025-10-09 17:51:19.000 | 86400 sec | 111039 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 372kB |
| kobak_thread-20-84738 | 2025-10-09 17:59:11.000 | 86400 sec | 111511 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 203kB |
| kobak_summary-23-113722 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-209297 | 2025-10-09 17:54:14.000 | 86400 sec | 111214 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 342kB |
| kobak_thread-23-153733 | 2025-10-09 17:52:59.000 | 86400 sec | 111139 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 343kB |
| kobak_summary-23-241198 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 7kB |
| kobak_summary-20-203880 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-245619 | 2025-10-09 17:55:20.000 | 86400 sec | 111280 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 349kB |
| kobak_thread-23-140050 | 2025-10-09 17:54:34.000 | 86400 sec | 111234 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 360kB |
| kobak_thread-23-167072 | 2025-10-09 17:51:19.000 | 86400 sec | 111039 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 361kB |
| kobak_board-9-index_page-1 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 86400 sec | 111281 sec | 0 (current) / 6 (ever) | 36kB |
| kobak_thread-23-140486 | 2025-10-09 17:54:33.000 | 86400 sec | 111233 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-281327 | 2025-10-09 17:55:36.000 | 86400 sec | 111296 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 344kB |
| kobak_summary-9-471625 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-259049 | 2025-10-09 17:53:35.000 | 86400 sec | 111175 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 363kB |
| kobak_thread-23-232271 | 2025-10-09 17:51:01.000 | 86400 sec | 111021 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 356kB |
| kobak_summary-20-204006 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-154669 | 2025-10-09 17:52:54.000 | 86400 sec | 111134 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 352kB |
| kobak_thread-23-190059 | 2025-10-09 17:57:04.000 | 86400 sec | 111384 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 342kB |
| kobak_thread-20-23478 | 2025-10-09 17:51:08.000 | 86400 sec | 111028 sec | 0 (current) / 4 (ever) | 246kB |
| kobak_summary-20-204892 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-246557 | 2025-10-09 17:55:08.000 | 86400 sec | 111268 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 350kB |
| kobak_summary-20-204992 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-141002 | 2025-10-09 17:54:24.000 | 86400 sec | 111224 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 349kB |
| kobak_summary-23-269545 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-168004 | 2025-10-09 17:51:01.000 | 86400 sec | 111021 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 346kB |
| kobak_summary-20-126586 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_summary-9-472285 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-282265 | 2025-10-09 17:55:14.000 | 86400 sec | 111274 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 341kB |
| kobak_thread-23-141978 | 2025-10-09 17:54:18.000 | 86400 sec | 111218 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 339kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-233244 | 2025-10-09 17:57:19.000 | 86400 sec | 111399 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 333kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-155653 | 2025-10-09 17:52:49.000 | 86400 sec | 111129 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 357kB |
| kobak_thread-20-209324 | 2025-10-09 17:51:02.000 | 86400 sec | 111022 sec | 0 (current) / 8 (ever) | 71kB |
| kobak_thread-23-191079 | 2025-10-09 17:56:58.000 | 86400 sec | 111378 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 354kB |
| kobak_summary-20-205694 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-247496 | 2025-10-09 17:54:57.000 | 86400 sec | 111257 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 378kB |
| kobak_thread-23-220710 | 2025-10-09 17:52:50.000 | 86400 sec | 111130 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 346kB |
| kobak_thread-23-283222 | 2025-10-09 17:57:27.000 | 86400 sec | 111407 sec | 0 (current) / 26 (ever) | 218kB |
| kobak_thread-23-142947 | 2025-10-09 17:54:12.000 | 86400 sec | 111212 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 397kB |
| kobak_thread-23-234185 | 2025-10-09 17:57:13.000 | 86400 sec | 111393 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 332kB |
| kobak_thread-23-169916 | 2025-10-09 17:59:20.000 | 86400 sec | 111520 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 393kB |
| kobak_summary-9-424395 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-156594 | 2025-10-09 17:52:43.000 | 86400 sec | 111123 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 345kB |
| tor_exit_list | 2025-10-09 17:52:04.000 | 3600 sec | 28284 sec | 0 (current) / 6 (ever) | 10kB |
| kobak_thread-23-270721 | 2025-10-09 17:52:05.000 | 86400 sec | 111085 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 353kB |
| kobak_thread-23-192010 | 2025-10-09 17:56:45.000 | 86400 sec | 111365 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 343kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-248435 | 2025-10-09 17:54:51.000 | 86400 sec | 111251 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 369kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-248689 | 2025-10-09 17:54:50.000 | 86400 sec | 111250 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 3kB |
| kobak_summary-20-177807 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-192967 | 2025-10-09 17:56:39.000 | 86400 sec | 111359 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 347kB |
| kobak_summary-9-474348 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_summary-23-280309 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 5kB |
| kobak_thread-23-235111 | 2025-10-09 17:57:07.000 | 86400 sec | 111387 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 387kB |
| kobak_thread-23-157531 | 2025-10-09 17:52:30.000 | 86400 sec | 111110 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 355kB |
| kobak_thread-23-271651 | 2025-10-09 17:51:59.000 | 86400 sec | 111079 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 375kB |
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| kobak_summary-20-208503 | 2025-10-09 17:57:20.000 | 43200 sec | 68200 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-194867 | 2025-10-09 17:56:27.000 | 86400 sec | 111347 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 358kB |
| kobak_summary-23-282265 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-237076 | 2025-10-09 17:56:50.000 | 86400 sec | 111370 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 357kB |
| kobak_thread-23-145957 | 2025-10-09 17:53:55.000 | 86400 sec | 111195 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 339kB |
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| kobak_catalog-9 | 2025-10-09 17:51:18.000 | 86400 sec | 111038 sec | 0 (current) / 28 (ever) | 374kB |
| kobak_banners | 2025-10-09 17:50:56.000 | 43200 sec | 67816 sec | 1 (current) / 136 (ever) | 1kB |
| kobak_thread-23-241875 | 2025-10-09 17:56:08.000 | 86400 sec | 111328 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 360kB |
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| kobak_summary-9-458810 | 2025-10-09 17:55:21.000 | 43200 sec | 68081 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 4kB |
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| kobak_summary-23-229702 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 4kB |
| kobak_thread-23-150892 | 2025-10-09 17:53:17.000 | 86400 sec | 111157 sec | 0 (current) / 0 (ever) | 347kB |
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| kobak_thread-23-164215 | 2025-10-09 17:51:47.000 | 86400 sec | 111067 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 325kB |
| kobak_summary-23-8 | 2025-10-09 17:50:57.000 | 43200 sec | 67817 sec | 0 (current) / 2 (ever) | 5kB |
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Rewrite/redirect rules:
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/?(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]&pagenumber=$matches[2] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=catalog&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=thread&board=$matches[1]&thread=$matches[2]&ext=$matches[3] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss |
rules in htaccess format:
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