/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>Samurai Jack
I miss the absolute kino he had in 2021 and as far as I'm concerned that is the year he should've won, and even though he was kind of silent this year I thought the depressed Jack arc he had was pretty funny so I'll give him a pass
>Hank Hill
Should've won 2021, should've won this year too
That's not me shit talking Grievous or Jack or Skeletor that's just me saying he is the best character who still hasn't won

>>76330
>Chel
Don’t care about Ms. /co/ but it’s obvious no one likes her for her character or movie
>Fio
Same thing, just a generic silent character now
>Kiryu and Jack
Would be kino winners if they had a good year of support and OC to back it up
>Hank
Strong character, reasonable to win eventually
>Roll
Pretty boring, besides some genuine supporters here and there she’s not very interesting and her appeal to certain kinds of people is obvious

>>76332
>but it's obvious no one likes her for her character or movie
Hey, that's not true. Road to El Dorado a great movie and I really do like Chel. I also like her hips but that's besides the point

>>76332
Chel actually has some merit to her characterization (particularly all the work put into animating her) and is one of the best parts of her movie beyond being a hot piece of brown ass. I do think she is overrated in the context of the tournaments, but I can understand her popularity.

>>76332
>>76335
Shirley-shit aside I think Chel usually ends up floundering because she doesn't have a campaign. I think the most attention she got outside of 2022 was the butthole pic, but that might've been the same year.

>>76331
Yeah I'm genuinely surprised Hank didn't win this year, though I'm happy with Skeletor. I really think Dale's run impacted his.

>>76341
> I think the most attention she got outside of 2022 was the butthole pic, but that might've been the same year.
It was the same year.

>>76342
Wow 2022 was not her year

>>76330
I think all six are at least somewhat warranted. Some are carried more by general legacy than others, but I can go over each.

>Chel
Yeah, I echo the sentiment that she's way too damn quiet. She may be one of the strongest silent picks ever after she shocked with a Tyr'ahnee win back in 2022, yet at the same time her lack of campaigning hits her overall impact. Still, she's not a bad pick to recur so much. Chel IS a good character on top of her sex appeal even if it's likely said appeal carrying her. The Road to El Dorado is also just generally liked, with Chel not having the same split issue as the movie's two main men. Overall she's a good enough pick to have earned her E8 returns, but not as sure about her winning currently.

>Fio Germi
Metal Slug is enough of a classic and Fio enough of a classic vidya waifu to have justified her as Queen's first runner-up, even if Samus did deserve the win overall. Much as I like the character, however, I do think her two returns came down a lot to bracket luck. She was on one of the weakest parts of the bracket in 2021, and this year wasn't much better. Going against THE silent filter during Round 4 this year made her return feasible, and it was still a close match. While a leg up over Chel, feel she's less likely to actually return to finals at this point.

>Roll
We're getting into more vocal territory here, yet >>76332 did kind of sum up her general presence well. She makes sense to be an elite member as a classic video game girl and the main one from Mega Man. (Still surprised how bad the series does in King, but that's a different story.) Still, I do wonder if her peak will be semi-finals. Both in 2021 and 2023 she came off as the quietest of the top four. She had some pushing her from time to time the previous time and she had a handful of memorable OC this year, but I feel part of her drawback is being more on the subdued side. This alone isn't that big a deal, but when you throw in voters that are more tenuous around the lolishit she attracts or her seemingly basic appeal it does seem like a clear ceiling to break through. Now she's definitely powerful considering some of the girls she's taken down in the past, so I would at least put her easily above Fio at this point despite her cons.

>Kiryu
The final of these four to make Elite Eight every time, I don't have to say much here. People love the guy and his games, particularly on /v/, but he's now got that quiet stigma full-force on him. Both his last two tournaments he took down campaign favorites in Round 4, after all. Now this is not to say Kiryu is weak considering he's thus far only really lost to Doomguy in his tourney prime and Eggman twice. Still, he needs to get more attention if he wants to break his stigma. In the other tournaments, this would already be an issue. In King of /v/, which is turning into the most arc-centric tournament of the main four, it seems like a death sentence from actually winning.

>Jack
Now to shift gears heavily, the two remaining guys from Mr. /co/ feel the strongest out of these six. Yes, they all have missed E8 at least once, but both times were sensible. (Superman was way more potent at the start of the tournaments, while Daffy beat Jack in 2020 by ONE vote. That's insane!) Jack also should have likely been the runner-up in 2019 without the host rig, with Hank obviously falling only to Grievous in 2021.

Focusing more on Jack himself, there is an argument that he could be ever so stronger than Hank. Even with possible gimping on Hank's side, he DID win this year and also has managed 3rd both eligible times. As stated, he also had some memorable campaigning in the past even if this year specifically was more subdued. I will say that I feel he needs to tap back into this potential to actually win, but to discount Jack would be a mistake. He's also coming back in the pinnacle eighth year of Mr. /co/, so if people push for a legacy winner he's one of the frontrunners for it. He's even gotten some decent percents against Grievous and Skeletor in their winning years. Not much else to say here. Jack's no joke!

>Hank
Eyup. While Jack has some arguments over him, I feel deep down that Hank might ever so have the winning advantage here. While he did get 4th his first E8 stint, he also didn't get stomped by Kronk like others in 2019. He ripped Aku's ass open to get into finals during 2021 and got a very definitive 5th this year. Plus keep in mind that neither Skeletor or Curly actually made semi-finals prior to their wins this year, so it's not a tell-all be-all. I feel King of the Hill is a sacred cow of a show for many, and Hank in particularly has a ton of love about him. You could go further to argue that he was hurt by Dale and a general drop in KotH campaigning this year. While Jack has the obvious milestones behind him, I would say Hank feels the most overdue to actually win one of these tournaments.

Short answer for those who don't like reading all these paragraphs: Hank and Jack are both powerhouses in the wings, Roll is strong but held back by a few factors, Kiryu and arguably Chel are mainly held back by being mostly silent, and Fio clearly peaked in her first year.

>>76349
I think I might campaign for Chel next year

>>76364
The real strongest are the ones who have won. That aside, just look at Fio's brackets in 2021 and 2023. While she's not a true jobber, she also got fairly lucky to return to Elite Eight both times. Roll's track record is more impressive, but she's also not actually broken into finals yet.

>>76364
Roll has fallen off, and I wouldn't be surprised if she's worse off in 2025. She went from seed 6 to seed 68 and her victories against SHODAN, Shantae and Miku were pretty close and against Curly she was stomped.

>>76364
Because Roll is so sexy bro's...

>>76364
She's on heat.

>>76369
I'm also uncertain if she can pull off the fourth elite run despite her general likability, but I'll defend some of these here. The seed point is fair, but not definitive. After all, Ammy got an even worse seed and yet still proved to be a powerhouse as expected. As for those matches, none of those were throwaways. SHODAN had a huge campaign going and obviously swept through losers' bracket (with her only starting to show struggles in there towards the end), Shantae was also a two-time elite and had beheaded Mado the first round despite being the more silent of the two, and Miku had hype behind her due to getting off her prior ban. She easily beat Fio as well in QF.

As for the Curly Brace match, there's several factors. Biggest is that it was two classic robot girls against each other, but Curly had more straightforward source material, an emotional edge, and certainly more obvious sex appeal outside certain demographics. Her support also seemed more spread out than Roll. It was 3/5 for Curly, but I feel it was just a mix of general tournament momentum and advantages from the blatant similarities between the two. If anything, I think it's more interesting to analyze how Ammy beat Bayo by a similar margin.

There's also the matter that Roll DID manage third place against Bayonetta, even if it was closer.

>>76371
I agree, Roll Caskett is so sexy.

>>76378
I campaigned for SHODAN pretty hard and it saddened me to see a lot of people seemingly give up when their characters entered the LB.

>>76392
I tried to keep up campaigning for my main in King when he ended up in losers, but he ended up batting out immediately there.

>>76394
I can resonate with that. I considered doing more significant for Mario, but I eventually weighed to shift focus instead. Granted, it did help that he already had at least one strong match against Jacket.

>>76369
Has Roll really fallen off if she reached a new record of 3rd place, with a bunch of supporters promoting her no less? Said matches would've been tough for anyone; SHODAN had a huge campaign, Shantae is widely popular and had just defeated Madotsuki (herself a very strong candidate), and Miku had been getting a lot of hype too. Seed doesn't mean anything either; let's not forget that runner-up Ammy's seed was in the triple digits (101) this year.
Fio on the other hand yeah I see her being worse off in 2025, I would be amazed if she made E8 for the 4th time in a row

>>76400
I also wouldn't count the seeds since it's obvious the hosts have been screwing with them heavily this year. They aren't legit.

Opinions on Roll winning the entire thing? How would she compare to the other Queens?

>>76406
I like Roll, but wouldn't beat some of the previous winners for me. Maybe others here disagree, but I'm going to be quicker to be back behind Ammy and Bayo in 2025.

>>76403
I will be sad if JJJ's campaign next year doesn't reference the qualifier debacle.

If Roll did miss Elite Eight next time she's in, this was at least a hell of a year to be her tournament high. Her latest main bracket defeat was THE robot girl match, she got third place over an overdue powerhouse like Bayonetta, and she even got a memorable arc with SHODAN.

And someone here said there's a "loli stigma". lol, lmao.

>>76408
Nyarly's campaign needs to try to fit it in too.

>>76406
Imma be honest, I’ll simply agree with what >>76409 said. I hate to elaborate because there very apparently people here who need to have their kneecaps obliterated to a pulp.

>>76409
This. All these fans of Roll's "character" clearly didn't show that same support for Casket, or Zero, or X, or Mega Man.

>>76412
Much as I would love to see him get a renewed campaign, I'm not sure if he'll be back. Even with the host fluke, eight votes this year was an awful sign. JJJ in comparison felt way more like a fluke in comparison, especially with the obviously lower vote count in qualifiers of Mr. /co/ this year.

>>76409
kek i remember when my fellow campaigners were terrified of the cunny addicts

...we lost.

>>76406
I think there are so many better Megaman picks, but they are stuck in King which doesn't favor platformers. I thought it would be hypocritical to think Roll is a bad choice when Zelda's winner was Midna who's a pretty minor character that I don't mind, but the difference to me at least is Midna being a minor character a lot find more interesting than the main cast is better than a major character who's the most boring of the main cast like Roll.

>>76409
Preach, these fags are using Rolls actual legacy and character as a facade to make their fetish pick win. Roll within of herself isn’t a bad character but she was never a elite eight material girl.
Lolifags had their share with Recette, I don’t wanna see another baseless fucking loli in the elite eight ever again.

>>76409
Megaman would do way better if he was a loli instead of a shota.

I could see Zero making it in the future off his newfound momentum this time, though at the same time I feel he might just whiff in QF and end up getting 7th or 8th.

>>76425
Mine did fine without porn except for some occasional very horny posters.

>>76424
Why are /v/fags like this?

I want Wily in the tournament.

>>76424
I think someone like Krystal would unironically be a better pick. She's iconic.

>>76425
The most bitter pill to swallow is most female characters in media are just terribly written and terribly uninteresting, they generally need a "Sex" factor to get them far in these unless they're incredibly well known for being interesting outside of that, like Toph from the Last Airbender. You can't diminish the "lowest common factor" votes when people are indecisive about two characters, which is likely a huge factor of silentfagging.

Speaking of other female Megaman characters, whatever happened to Splash woman's campaigner?

>>76432
Gone. Reduced to atoms.

>>76434
But do you look like that and say that?

>>76435
I've got a big nose like Tighten but otherwise I don't really look like him

>>76434
Based Tighten

>>76438
I'd like to try my hand at it sometime but I'm deeply afraid of making something with a ton of security holes in it.

>>76434
>>76440
>just realized these two could actually team up in Tag Team

>>76411
Well, yeah.

>>76426
>Mine did fine without porn
And who is your pick?

>>76431
>most female characters in media are just terribly written and terribly uninteresting
Yes, but it's still disappointing to see worse characters get in over ones that could be somewhat interesting or characters that are interesting getting ignored or overshadowed by their own porn.

>>76431
Yeah, I had my favorites in Queen but I quickly realized that campaigning for them is not nearly as funny or interesting as any male characters.

>>76442
Seems like it's more of a "loli buff".

>>76443
>And who is your pick?
NTA, but maybe Ammy?

>>76443
>And who is your pick?
SHODAN. Some horny posting here and there but it was uncommon. You have to realize that /v/irgins will fuck anything. I'm still SHOCKed she made it that far.

>>76445
There are people ITT who say they don’t want to see another loli in a Queen elite ever again. There are lolicons spread across the Qo/v/ voterbase, but there are also people that spitevote over it, and it's a tendency that will only continue growing.
Which I don’t particularly have a problem with. Most loli/little girl characters that get far in Qo/v/ are very boring, as previously stated.

>>76448
This place is very small. If that Squidward post was posted on /v/ you know that all the cunnyfags will crawl out of their holes just to shit on him. /v/ will continue to vote for shitty loli picks and get at least one of them to the Elite 8 every year while furries will never get close because they are the ones that actually get spitevoted out succesfully. That's just a fact.

>>76446
Ammy is another one I liked and yeah, the anti-furfag bias really plays against her.

>>76449
Perhaps, but I still don’t see another loli character winning Qo/v/ anytime soon.

>>76451
It's one of those things that can definitely squeeze into Elite Eight, but would likely be flushed by the finals.

>>76444
I still like campaigning during Queen because I don’t feel as pressured compared to the more "serious business" feel King carries, which certainly has to do with it being the more narrative-oriented tournament out of the main four.

>>76444
>Yeah, I had my favorites in Queen but I quickly realized that campaigning for them is not nearly as funny or interesting as any male characters.
Yeah I feel the same way
And honestly you can kinda see it in the thread's quality
Queen had so much off-topic posting and shitflinging, then came King which actually turned everything upside down and had people fucking discussing games out of all things.

>>76454
King had almost as much off-topic posting and shitflinging.

>>76441
I'd vote for them if they got nominated.

>>76455
Not really

>>76454
Honestly the off topic shit in Queen only got bad in the non canon rounds, otherwise it was about the same as in King.

>>76454
Let’s not go overboard here. King is much more infamous for being the tournament with the most off-topic funposting and the one that often gets characters wrong.

>>76460
Not really

>>76461
Yes really.

>>76462
No

Ms. /co/ is actually the one tournament with the most off-topic funposting, let's not forget it's the one that pioneered Dragon Ball posting during tournament season back in 2021. That being said King of /v/ has also had its fair share of shitflinging, intrusive funposting and stupid controversies. If it weren't for the Loser's finals fiasco Queen 2023 would have gone about as smoothly as in past years.

>>76465
>most of /co/ lolis aside from Hilda have never made to elite eight.
And Toph, although in her case a good deal of her own fans don't even see her as a loli.

>>76465
Why does /v/ always pick the most boring little girls to obsess over? /co/ at least has some variety in their loli picks.

>>76468
Jas is a nigger...

>>76467
/v/'s lolis are shit.

We should have an all-loli Elite 8.

>>76408
I was already planning on talking about that with him next year

>>76444
I've campaigned for vidya women before but after a while this year my Queen campaign became a general Queen of /v/ thing rather than specific characters and it was more fun that way.

>>76472
/v/ loli's are more attractive

Most video games are poorly written so characterization is a minor reason to vote for a candidate in /v/'s contests. Most either shoot for design, quality of the game, or icon/board status rather than personality. Jap games are usually preferred but looking at most of their games its filled with awful writing and some of the blandest or convoluted personalities ever conceived.

Roll is so sexy bro’s.

>>76483
Roll looks hotter than that.

>>76478
Same. My most wanted contestant choked at the beginning and she was being mostly carried by other people, so I decided to focus on showing support for other characters and even doing some requests here and there. It’s way more carefree than having to carry an entire campaign on your back or trying to compliment other anons' efforts without seeming like you are out of touch with what’s going on in the threads. There’s a chance I end up being the main campaigner for my boys going into King of /v/ 2024 and it’s already kind of stressful to think about.

>>76424
loli’s are basically 4chan culture (remember the people that founded the site) and furries gave always been hated by moot and mods so anti-furry is also basically site culture. Of course the degenerate angle is hypocritical but it doesn’t matter cause loli’s are based and furries are crlnge

>>76487
>muh board culture
Lol
Lmao

>>76482
>>76484
Roll Caskett btw.

>>76487
This. Who cares about being degenerate. Lolis good furries bad. If you disagree with this you should leave the site.

>>76490
>Furries good Lolis bad
Ftfy

>>76492
Based Commander Rourke

>>76485
>There’s a chance I end up being the main campaigner for my boys going into King of /v/ 2024 and it’s already kind of stressful to think about.
I've almost always been the solo campaigner for my picks so I'm used to it by now, but good luck to your guys next year.

>>76490
Furries have won more tournaments than lolis have.
Seethe and Cope.

>>76496
And they aren't jews.

Who cares? Where's King Boo?

>>76485
idk but I find it easier to solo than having 2 or 3 people changing the character to their liking or inviting unwanted guests like funposters and falseflaggers into derailing the whole campaign and shitting on everything that you worked for.

>>76488
That’s the reasoning behind the attitude is all. Personally i’m fine with both loli’s and furries.

>>76498
BETRAYED and TRAPPED by furries and lolis

>>76495
Thanks. In retrospect being the only person making OC for my characters is an extremely unlikely scenario as their reputation has thankfully grown a lot over the years. I’ll definitely be the main campaigner for my qualifier snub (again) but I have a better idea on how to shape his campaign now.

>>76499
Both alternatives have their pros and cons. I like seeing big campaigns and how the different posters within them differ in their approaches and interact with each other, like how The Monarch in Mr. /co/ had several RPs at one point.

>>76419
All the more reason Recette and aerd sucks. Such a wasted loli slot.

>>76465
/v/ lolis peaked with Recette. It's all downhill from there.
Anyways if you want my bet for the next /co/ loli to make Elite Eight I'll throw my bet in for Alice, she gets a lot of support each year, usually falling only to other very well supported characters. She very nearly made it in 2021 too; though given that it was 2021, maybe it's for the best that was not her year.

>>76481
People love to bash Hex Maniac for being a non-character who might as well be HexAnon's OC at this point, but let's not forget King of /v/ voted fucking Morshu out of all "characters" into 4th place once, and while he got stomped in round 1 this year he would put up a better fight againts Eggman than Frog, Geralt and even Kiryu. Iconicness/memeability has always been the biggest factor going into the /v/ tournaments, characterization and writing merit plays a secondary role at best.

>>76508
>Recette
>Peak
Lmao, the girl she beat at the finals was much better than that shit.

>>76508
There's something very funny about Alice's 2021 run and it's that one anon claimed to having rigged the vote for Ms. Bellum when in reality he wanted Alice to win the match. He was likely cheating for a different character on the other side of the bracket.

>>76507
It should have been Ashley not Redditcette

>>76509
This is what I don't get when Pepsiman is voted into a bracket slot. He is a walking ad from an irrelevant and mediocre game that was hard carried by one song. He is devoid of any personality despite being a meme for a shit drink. Truly one of the most wasted slot characters in the bracket. It's worse than having Colonel Sanders compete in /co/.

>>76510
Oh I'm not saying in terms of quality of the girl I'm just saying in terms of performance, I don't see another loli winning Queen /v/. For better or worse, Recette is your loli winner.

>>76511
I'd take that with a grain of salt because 2021 had as much falseflagging as it had metagaming but it'd be hilarious if true, that basically perfectly encapsulates the mood of that year's Ms. /co/.

>>76516
I have always held the personal belief Ms. /co/ 2021 was a massive rigjob anyway. Like beyond the general sense of spite and metagaming, a lot of people were genuinely baffled with how well certain characters performed. I don't want to insult Hilda and Johanna as I'm aware they have genuine supporters and a lot of effort was put into campaiging for them, but still.

>>76513
I still don't get how Pepsiman does well. He's never been E8 but he can decisively win matches, and even when he loses, it's not by much, for example his loss to Dante in 2020 was by a closer margin than Dante's later matches against Scout and Raiden.

>>76519
Maybe it's something about the kind of people who vote in Ko/v/ since a lot of genuine memes tend to get over actual characters. It's not just Pepsiman and Morshu; Regigigas, Christopher Robin and "Fuhrer" are other notable meme contestants who have done remarkably well in the past. Even with Nyarly being a legitimate character in his own right, he coincidentally started performing worse the moment his narrative role in Persona 2 started being acknowledged.

It's why I tend to take a lot of the criticisms thrown at Queen's taste with a massive grain of salt. Even in Mr. /co/lympus, the other male tournament, you rarely see pure meme picks do so well.

>>76513
People like him because of the fact that he's a walking meme.

>>76522
He isn't even particularly unique at that.

>>76539
Shhh don't point it out too loud it hurts the "Oldfags" feelings when you say it to their faces.

>>76541
Kek

>>76521
>about the kind of people who vote in Ko/v/
You mean in /v/ in general, Queen also gets its fair share of meme characters.
Pyro, Essex, Vidya Butts, Fang, Ebony & Ivory, even Hex Maniac and probably more.

>>76539
to be fair i think this fursona was more or less imposed on him

>>76396
I might end up making something extra for Mario in Co-op despite him not being my main since I enjoyed making a video for him in King this year but I probably made it too early.

>>76555
Pyro, Essex, Vidya Butts and Fang are all round one jobbers. Hex is a completely different kind of deal. The only notable meme picks Queen has are E&I and JPEG dog, and both of them were source of controversy.
No, this is something very unique to King of /v/.

>>76562
They still qualify over other characters, it's just that people also vote with their dicks before voting for memes.

>>76513
>>76519
Captain Falcon was genuinely robbed, that's probably the most upsetting outcome in the entire tournament that isn't talked about as much

>>76564
They still perform poorly. Only Ko/v/ has memes reach elite 8 positions.

>>76566
Qualifying in the first place is worse than "doing well".

>>76567
Well, fuck me, King also has Queen beaten at that.

>>76569
OK, Queen still has meme characters too.

>>76565
Yeah Falcon definitely should've beaten Pepsiman, same with Kleiner.

>>76565
I guess it was backlash for being memed into being a silent pick though he did get more attention this year than actual silent shit like Pepsi Man.

>>76573
Was there actually backlash? Felt people either got a kick out of it or just didn't have much to say on it.

>>76556
he never denied it, it's used in several of the official site ban/404 images and he wore the pink shirt to conventions. If he really hated it he wouldn't have gone so far with it.

>>76590
The very thing he hates are aussies

>>76598
Even though it wasn't that big, I still expected F-zero 99 to give the Captain a boost.