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Politics Thread #19: The Last One

Cheers to all as we fade away with the year, but most especially to our friends from /pol/.
>Sweden changed the legal definition of rape to be much broader
Please explain.
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
May loses the Brexit vote
That's pretty interesting stuff.
I want to invite you all to http://www.getchan.net/ as a replacement
Please provide a good argument for me to visit that link.
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>"We need a federal law prohibiting censorship of lawful speech on major social media platforms," Nehlen asserts. "It is well-known that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube discriminate against the right-wing, as evidenced by FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's recent comments. While widely heralded for those comments, they rang hollow with no suggested solution. This law is that solution. It will extend Americans' First Amendment free speech protections onto major social media platforms."

>"We are not extensively regulating or trust-busting," Nehlen explains, "because people generally like how the platforms perform in terms of functionality. This law will not interfere with features or functionality, so market forces will remain in play. The problem is their censorship of lawful speech. Hypocritically, the same companies that support net neutrality also want to censor your speech. We say no."

>For purposes of this legislation, "censorship" includes:
>Denial of platform access and normal use thereof (e.g., lockouts, suspensions, bans)
>Issuance of "verified" status based on any factor(s) unrelated to identity authentication
>"Throttling" accounts and/or content without disclosure
>Embargoing content (i.e., no "memory-holing" content without the consent of the creator)
>Manipulating "trending" algorithms without disclosure

>"Lawful speech" is based upon the standards enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, with the following limitations:
>No child pornography
>No explicit, credible threats of physical violence
>No publishing any individual's nonpublic residential address, telephone number, or email address without their consent
>Platforms may choose to prohibit otherwise-lawful pornographic video (i.e., video containing explicit sexual acts)
>Restrictions on copyrighted content are already addressed by the DMCA

>"Major social media platforms" means social media platforms that enjoy a market share above minimum threshold level. At present, it would include Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit. (Smaller platforms and message boards will not be affected.)

>The legislation would impose company fines of $500,000 per instance of wrongful censorship, and would be enforced by the FCC. Judicial remedies (both monetary and non-monetary) may also be available to aggrieved parties.

>"The bedrock of American society is freedom of speech. Social media companies have usurped this freedom, and we intend to give it back to the American people," says Nehlen.

>"This is just one more instance where Paul Ryan has shown he isn't getting the job done in Washington. The GOP's voters are being systematically censored off of the primary channels of public communication by left-wing tech giants, and Ryan – indeed, the entire GOP Congress – has sat utterly mute for years and allowed it to happen. In the absence of leadership, I willingly step into the breach."

I love this fucking timeline. So many things are starting to look way up. Though honestly I wish there was more of a willingness to engage in trust-busting outright, I'll gladly take this.
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
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nice rebuttal
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>We need a federal law prohibiting censorship of lawful speech on major social media platforms

Translation: “We want the Nazis to be able to use Twitter without being banned for being Nazis.”
Then ban them for a proper reason, like inciting racial violence.
Rodyle !Cljnc/gZnM
They're Nazis, they do that by definition. It is literally part of the ethos.
They *are* being banned for a proper reason: violating the site's ToS.

If I never see another PAUL RYAN, POLICY WONK profile again it will be too soon
>Thinks businesses should be allowed to refuse service to people for being gay
>Doesn't think businesses should be allowed to refuse service to people who violate the contracts they sign when they enter into business with those companies.

"Anti-regulation" party, amirite?
So Matt Lauer, Glenn Trush, Chris Matthews and a few other major election media guys that shaped coverage are proven misogynists or fucking sex criminals like Trump, and then we have Comey.

We can criticize Hillary for a slew of reasons, but if you can't admit the deck was stacked against her, you're out of your mind.
I don't know if it necessarily follows that people who abuse their power to coerce sex out of people they have power over are also conspiring against a presidential candidate because she's a woman. Like don't get me wrong--I'm a full on feminist, and I don't question the women who brought up charges against them at all. Nor the fact that it's an indication of a lack of respect for women. But it sounds like you're trying to extrapolate that to suggest these people were conspiring against Hilary Clinton in specific, which is a pretty big leap of logic.
and so year one of donald's presidency ends with a government shutdown
What did I miss now?
John Bolton as NSA. Fuck everyone who voted for Trump.
It seems pretty obvious what is going on with Trump and Russia. I am honestly surprised there has only been one reported assassination attempt.
>Damn, son, does it hurt when you clutch your pearls that hard?
So militant white people should be beaten and jailed but militant black people are a joke?
Humans are humans. Angry racist humans are equally scary regardless of race.
>All Lives Mattering domestic terrorism
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>So militant white people should be beaten and jailed but militant black people are a joke?
>So militant white people should be beaten and jailed but militant black people are completely non-existent except to senile White boomers who should we pray die tomorrow?

Yep, got it in one.
She was the only intelligent and honest person in that interview. She was trying to pin down and get something resembling human speech out of a vacillating and deceitful obscurant that is mealy-mouthed, logorrheic and unclear on purpose so he can seem wise and so his little insect fans can deduct what they want from his spiels.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
So you're saying Jordan Peterson is a lizard person who eats the heads of children?

…yeah, that wasn’t a serious question, and neither is “so you’re saying…?”. If you have to otherword someone during an argument, you have already lost.
>…yeah, that wasn’t a serious question, and neither is “so you’re saying…?”. If you have to otherword someone during an argument, you have already lost.
Well, how the fuck do you expect someone extract meaning from a non-argument like "Damn, son, does it hurt when you clutch your pearls that hard?".
>If you have to otherword someone during an argument

It's because they are worse writers than Dan Brown and their fans, collectively, have less culture, genetic value and personality in them than a Big Bang Theory box set.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>Well, how the fuck do you expect someone extract meaning from a non-argument like "Damn, son, does it hurt when you clutch your pearls that hard?"

You look at the underlying premise of the insult. The "clutching your pearls" idiom means the pearl-clutcher in question acts mortified by some mundane or otherwise common idea—e.g., the idea of Black people owning guns or organizing into a group of two or more people. My insult, then, was an implication that the expressed fear of militant Black people is unfounded and based near-entirely in a racist mindset that sees Black people as inherently criminal and naturally dangerous.
They're going all-out to gin up war with Iran today, aren't they. Bolton's only been in two weeks and Pompeo what, a few days?
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
This is what happens when you have Rapture-believing nutjobs in the same administration as a guy who has openly asked why we do not use nukes.
History repeats itself, right? Can we get the Ides of March without the fall of a republic?
User 9
How To Shake Handsyoutube thumb revving up for 2020
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Someone made a worldwide "animal waste pollution" map. As in, measurement of the amount of defecation that releases toxic waste gases.

India is officially #1 in public defecation.
Meister Tweister
>it's the NORTHERN part of India
Perhaps Aryans were not the master race...
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
I’m sorry, what?
Meister Tweister
Aryans were a tribe that conquered northern India several thousand years ago and brought their "indo-european" language to the region.
Franken's questioning of Jeff Sessions led to his recusal and Mueller's investigation, and now Klobuchar set up Trump when she got Barr to admit suborning perjury is felony obstruction of justice.

Minnesotans man.
User 9
Not sure if other countries do this, but I think at this point it's clear that the United States ought to get hotfixed such that failing to pass a yearly budget just results in funding for stuff that isn't designated temparary getting its budget from last year copied over, maybe adjusted for inflation, instead of defaulting to everything going into shutdown mode.
Some guy did a real-life remove kebab in New Zealand.
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aussie pride internet wide
In what?
Australian guy went to New Zealand and shot up some muslims. I suppose discussing it in the politics thread would be more apt.
Mooster Twooster
And now NZ and AU are blaming websites, and are banning a lot of them.

Saged, cause technically the above post is right.
Anonymous ## Mod
The merge feature works!
It was never broken. But, it only works within the same board.
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Hey brainiac, did you try bumping the thread?
Oh, yea, bump limits have since changed, so you can still use this thread. Oh well.
it hadn't even reached 50 you mong
I haven't reached 50 yet either but I sure as hell feels like I did.
Mistir Twistir
With age comes wisdom, and wisdom give you power.
I'm a little older, none the wiser,
trying to forget the past
the memories may fade, but the mistakes I made
will always seem to last.
>With age comes wisdom
It honestly should. Yet we are self-destructing faster than ever.
Reality is surreal.
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Mstr Twstr
Pebble Throw in a nutshell.
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Mstr Twstr
Oh, you wish.

Gotta wish harder.
Replace them with Britannia if you want something more realistic.
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(SEN = Special Education Needs or something)
It's hard to make any judgement with this little information, but:
1) Sex != Gender. Is changing the noted sex the right solution to gender dysphoria? Would this cause issues for vaccination/medical emergencies/penis inspection day?
2) Liking trains and cars is a pretty low bar for gender dysphoria. If there is more evidence (there probably is) then this is different but otherwise that's fucked to judge binary gender from such a trivial counter-stereotype. Are all bronies categorically gender dysphoric?
3) Is the mother in denial and not mentioning legitimate evidence?
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User 9
Wow, the United States sure is in a difficult diplomatic spot right now!
Good thing President Trump, by his own admission the greatest negotiator we have, knows that visiting Iran to meet its leaders in person and drive a hard deal face-to-face like only he knows how is the surest way to quickly bring a end to this conflict.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be hilarious to see how this will turn out. It sort of feels like the early 00s again.
Might be a rerun for you, but not for the new generations. No spoilers!
Is getting into a conflict with Iran some sort of tactic to distract from problems at home? An attempt to ensure re-election through some sort of not changing horses mid-stream rhetoric?
Certainly possible, who knows.
Mister Twister
Everyone wants control over the Middle East (including Russia, China, or anyone strong at the moment), and no one wants an actual WORLD (see: planes and bombs over the ocean) war. It's about control over the region and destabilization, nothing else.
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Why is this in the politics thread?
Because she is doing speeches in the european parliament.
Who is she?

And is the middle image the same person or just a porn star that also has pigtails?
Greta Thunberg. In case you've been living under a rock: she's a teen with aspergers making autistic rants about climate change.
>And is the middle image the same person or just a porn star that also has pigtails?
It's almost certainly not her. I think the joke is /pol/anon feels that she is an angry virgin.

Yep, prompting a lot of world leaders to essentially bully a teenager. Shit's surreal. That's why movements shouldn't use a single person as an 'inspiration', regardless of what corporate media will try to encorage.
>I think the joke is /pol/anon feels that she is an angry virgin.
No, the joke is that if she had a stable relationship or someone to give her love (or even just a man to put her in her place), then she'd be a happier person and perhaps a more productive member of society, and not just the current decade equivalent of LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.

But that might not work in her case because last time I checked she was legit autistic and her parents are taking advantage of the fact, and fueling the media attention for their own benefits.

>prompting a lot of world leaders to essentially bully a teenager
They are basically telling a dumb kid to go back to school and learn how the world works, and the fact that this is considered bullying tells you a lot about how viable victim stardomship is.
>or even just a man to put her in her place
Really mate?
Yes, really. The sexual revolution was a mistake.
>perhaps a more productive member of society
Attempting to secure a future for the next century of human and animal life is one of the most productive things a human can do.
Going about it poorly? You can debate that. Being unproductive? No.

>They are basically telling a dumb kid to go back to school and learn how the world works
...instead of acknowledging a legitimate problem and working with climate experts to mitigate it in a realistic way.
Place your bets: Trump and Pence have coronavirus, or media speculation.
Judging them as individuals, I'd wager yes.
Mister Twister
Most people survive it, so...............
Wasn't the President downplaying it when things were starting to spread? It would be almost fitting if it got him.

Little chance though, even if he's personally at higher risk than younger folk he's got all the resources around him to save his life.
I mean he pretty much freaking stood with a whole crowd of other people in the room while speaking about this virus, so he might have done a whole lot of other crazy unsafe stuff. He's a risky rich-ass after all.
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I am conflicted: should I be grateful or concerned by the incompetent response to this pandemic?
>many leaders giving harmful instructions to their own supporters, critical thinkers most likely have enough information to stay safe. Might actually have a positive effect on propaganda resistance
>reported decrease in global CO2 emissions
>social distancing measures could reduce the spread of other diseases
>population control without creating an ethical dilemma

Case study: Spanish Flu
During World War I, countries heavily under-reported to maintain morale. Spain was neutral and reported their numbers reasonably, so it falsely appeared as if Spain was being hit far worse by the flu than any other country.
Since it predominantly kills old people, once the virus is gone, the average age of people in the affected countries will be much lower.
Less old folk means lesser burden on social spending due to less pensions to be paid out. This will increase the state budget. The large sums of inheritance taxes to be paid will increase it further.
Most of those old people are indigenous population, so this will lead to immigrants becoming an ever bigger part (in percentage) of the populace, in particular because they breed faster. This will lead to the state having to spend more on them. On the other hand the indigenous populace will also gain some cash boost due to the inheritances, and perhaps this may lead to more children being born.
Since politicians are nearly all very old and thus heavily endangered by the virus, we may see a large shift in political structures (many politicians such as Merkel or Trump were already found spending a lot of time around people who tested positive). Especially if the failed responses to the virus will empower more radical parties.
The social distancing also means that digital conferences will be at least tested in practice, for fields such as schools and governments. This may lead to these becoming more and more prevalent in the future.

So whatever happens, the future will be at least interesting, and the world will finally change in a direction.

My favourite part is that so far in 2020 we had famines, floods, locusts, a pandemic, and it's not even April yet.
User 9
I would be concerned. Even a competent response would still have people staying inside enough for emissions to go down and other diseases to also be affected by social distancing. Overall population isn't a pressing issue, at least as long as we stick with modern food production per acre. That only leaves propoganda resistance, and there's other ways to cultivate that.

If there was a way to specifically protect construction workers, this would be a nice time to overhaul our public transportation systems, since interruptions for upgrades and other service would be less of an issue with greatly reduced traffic.

Anyway, I have a hard time beleiving that the people trying to get everyone back to work as quickly as possible really can't make up excuses better than the ones we've been hearing. Like... Really? Anyone got something more beleivable than "people will just kill themselves" or "saving lives just isn't as important as the liberty and justice of face to face interaction"? Because so far the attempts to convince me that this lockdown needs to be limited have only managed to make me think we're even more able to withstand extending it than I previously expected.
The lockdown is because people are stupid and the social distancing guidelines are largely ignored; they have to be enforced to slow down the spread of the virus.

>"saving lives just isn't as important as money"?
fixed that for you.
It stresses me out whenever I have to go outside and that does seem noticable, that people other than me don't seem to even know the concept of distance and spacing
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Same here.
The situation is a bit better with IT people though, we've been socially distancing for years. People suck!
User 9
So, no only are prisoners, epsecially nonviolent prisoners, not being released during to the virus in the US despite that easily being a death sentance for many of them, but it doesn't seem unlikely that pritate prisons might simply respond to the deaths by demanding more prisoners get sent in as the disease progresses.

Given that there's also likely to be a lack of hospital space, would it make sense to have private prisons converted to emergency hospitals to both get more hospital space and as a (politically easier?) way to get private prisons to stop demanding prisoners for a bit by giving them something else to get paid for?
Relevant: Ex-con talks about epidemics and prison.
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>Always relevant to an imagedboard politics thread
>falling inline with the hivemind
what a cuck!
Trump is trying to blame the World Health Organisation for everything wrong with the coronavirus in America.
I just hope you are all able to show his low-interest voters a compilation of all his contradictions and lack of empathy in this crisis.
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Mstr Twstr
Not breaking the news early to please China's government? Surely, nothing to do with the state of things.
Are you implying the current administration was not guilty of downplaying the severity of the disease before now? In his meeting with the press the president was clearly buck-passing.
Now he's telling his subjects to drink bleach.
Did he? I've only seen the news report, but what I recall is that he said that they should look into using disinfectants inside the body too.

Which is not that stupid, honestly. Drink strong spirits with 70% alcohol content and that's about it.
He's old and senile, said we should look into injecting disinfectant into people at a press conference after it was talked about how disinfectant and sunlight kills viruses.

The various press conferences have gotten pretty fucking ridiculous, seems to be falling apart and doesn't have the disease like the drip of a UK prime minister did to blame it on.
Do you have a source with full context?
>his subjects
Fuck, you people make me bueno. El Trumpo is a fag but this sort of rhetoric is exactly why the plebs take issue.
>Do you have a source with full context?
not the same anon, but I took the liberty of spending 10 seconds finding it for you. First, here's the politifact tl;dr analysis:
> During a coronavirus press briefing, President Trump floated the idea of using disinfectants and sunlight to treat COVID-19 patients.
> Trump has since walked back those remarks, and several websites and social media posts have taken them out of context.
> The briefing transcript shows that Trump did not say people should inject themselves with bleach or alcohol to treat the coronavirus. He was asking officials on the White House coronavirus task force whether they could be used in potential cures.
Here is the context from the transcript (supplied by politifact):
>"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
>"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
My interpretation of that:
>He didn't directly suggest people do it, but since sanitizer and UV over-exposure are accessible and he is, to many, a trusted authority, this is harmful behavior that should be discouraged.
>Exaggeration from media circus and the cancer that is social media came up with 'bleach' which actually damages their criticism of his dangerous lack of responsibility.
So it's basically just the social media and liberal news sites over-reacting on what he said, taking out of context parodies of it, and presenting it as straight up presidential quotes. In other words, the same way they treated him ever since he got elected.

I hope he gets re-elected just so he can trigger these whiny faggots for more years.
Don't be pathetic, maybe next year one of your presidential choices could actually be decent instead of two variations on garbage.
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>maybe next year one of your presidential choices could actually be decent

Now who is being pathetic, thinking that that would be possible in the US.
America doesn't need an outside influence to be a bunch of tribal retards.
Mister of the Twist
Actually true. But let California leave, and the tension will decrease.
>complains about whiny faggots while being a whiny faggot about those evil libs

>I hope he gets re-elected just so he can trigger these whiny faggots for more years.
If it were about entertainment, I'd rather Biden. He triggers the Democrats AND Republicans.
But you are completely trivializing the fact that a high authority figure is unironically presenting pseudoscience at a press conference. Media sensationalization is a secondary problem that has been just as prevalent with the Bush and Obama years. Them being antagonistic unprofessional cunts is a completely different problem to your choice of national representative. You have two separate cultural problems here.
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fucking lmao
Mister of the Twist
Hot take, but le green frog is smug defiance. An army of said frogs following a single leader is an artistic mistake. Even for a joke.
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>posting an ad for the /r/the_donald walled-cult bunker
what did you mean by this?
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>thedonald.win calling another site a 'safe space'
Post something outside of their agenda and see how long your account lasts. It's literally an alt-right 'safe space'.
I can't stand Twitter at the moment.

Because of that American thing with racist police officer killing a black guy suddenly there's countless people trying to justify looting from random businesses.

That's so fucking stupid, it would be more logical if they were saying to go throw petrol bombs at police stations instead.
At this point this is just full-on anarchism. I can understand why middle class folk are fleeing from urban areas in the USA.

Funny tho, 100 years ago if a black guy killed a white man, it was the white folk who gathered up and started killing blacks. But even then, they didn't start rioting and firebombing the city, it was just some good old fashioned lynching - not destroying every store or breaking every window on sight.
Mister of the Twist
Growing up in something resembling a shithole, I can explain this in a non-racist way:

You have to be raised by loving parentS, who would teach you self control, and the value of patience. If you are raised by 1 parent, the chances of you growing up into a thug rise greatly. If you have no parents, it is almost guaranteed. I guarantee you those looters mostly come from broken homes.
>[lynchers were] not destroying every store or breaking every window on sight.
Yeah but that's a seriously weak comparison, socially and economically speaking. I'm pretty sure nowhere near as many white people 100 years ago would be as economically motivated to loot. That said, civilians looted after the 1906 SanFran earthquake, so soldiers were sent in to shoot looters. Then the solders started looting. They didn't have a history of disadvantage, they had far more control over their lives and society. Plus, they or their friends owned the stores so why break them.
If a town back then was mostly populated by black people and their black police force started killing unarmed white civilians dozens of times every year, I really doubt they would be tolerated.
The looting and store destruction is, AFAICT, partly a mixture of anger and rebellion at 'the system', but more importantly, opportunists taking advantage of the chaos. Add in the fact that many people are facing further economic hardship than usual this year.

People are trying to justify it which I believe is (90%) stupid and probably a coping mechanism.
>If a town back then was mostly populated by black people and their black police force started killing unarmed white civilians dozens of times every year, I really doubt they would be tolerated.
Yeah, but if that happened back then, they'd call the state police or national guard to clean up the local police force - instead of starting a nationwide riot.

The disadvantage and lack of control over society you speak of, is a result of certain black folk choosing to live as dumb ass 'hood niggas who don't trust da racist wyte ppl. The ones who choose to lead a decent life do not get into such situations in the first place - and they don't dress like or talk in a way that they could be mistaken with a common criminal, which is what lead to the guy getting killed this time around.

And yeah, the looting this time around is anarchists fanning the flames.
>who don't trust da racist wyte ppl
Such as the police. I wonder what might lead them to not trust the police...
But that's not what I'm talking about at all. I meant when nearly your entire race in a country is eventually freed from slavery with little-to-no reparations, plus ongoing segregation (by law and/or by racial prejudice) for another few decades bringing with it reduced access to education and 'skilled' working opportunities, that doesn't just evaporate within a lifetime. Being raised in disadvantaged circumstances generally puts you at a disadvantage (for example, less/no formal education, or less time with parents who work more to earn you those opportunities). And who the fuck wants to hire a person raised in a shithole over someone already well-integrated into your society? So the disadvantage echos to their kids.
In some areas of the country there has been more success with active efforts in reintegration and so your point is valid there, for sure, but it certainly doesn't apply to other areas they did jack shit and wonder why most of these damn black people are hopeless failures who don't just get a good job instead of resorting to crime.
That's like saying 'World War II happened because the Germans chose to invade countries instead of acting peaceful like the rest who were doing fine'. It's more complex and contextual than 'fucking Germans are aggressive dumbasses', many of the causes of their aggression directly resulted from the WWI aftermath that ended decades earlier.
>I wonder what might lead them to not trust the police...

The reason why the police treats them like garbage is because a large portion of them act like garbage. They make up 10% of the populace but commit 90% of the crime. Look up any crime statistic that lists race for proof.
>and they don't dress like or talk in a way that they could be mistaken with a common criminal, which is what lead to the guy getting killed this time around
What the fuck does that even mean?
If police are arresting people based on their general clothing or vernacular, there is a serious fucking problem with those police.
In my country, police treat you by how you break the law. You'll get tackled for resisting but no-one will touch your neck, let alone with their knees.
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First primary source I found (FBI.gov, Crime in the U.S., 2016), are you satisfied with it?
Now distribute those percentages by proportion of the populace. According to the 2010 census, 12.4% of the populace of the USA is black. If 27% of the arrests made are blacks, then a black person is twice as likely on average to commit a crime, or 4 times as likely to commit murder or robbery, according to the statistics.

Maybe that's why the cops have less tolerance against them, I dunno.
Are you trying to be a stereotype anon.
Are you trying to be a stereotype by casually dismissing whatever this anon is arguing in a sarcastic and indirect manner, anon?
statistics are not the same as stereotypes.
So the whole "make up 10% of the populace but commit 90% of the crime. Look up any crime statistic that lists race for proof" assertion was complete horseshit, but I agree that there is a significant over-representation of crime committed by black peoples.
I don't think that justifies treating civilians with violent prejudice.

Now distribute those percentages by proportion of the populace. According to the census that year, 48.9% of the populace of the USA is male. If 73% of the arrests made are males, then a male person is three times as likely on average to commit a crime, over six times more likely to commit robbery, seven times as likely to commit murder or non-negligent manslaughter, and thirty-five times more likely to commit rape according to the statistics.

I don't think that makes it ok for policemen to treat men like garbage. Treat us with more caution? That's reasonable. Not like garbage though.
I'm sorry I did not look up the exact numbers. How many decimals of accuracy do you require for the numbers to be not horseshit? Should I also factor in percentage of ethnicities in every region? Should I also factor in ethnicities and crime levels per capita or per urban region vs rural ones?

>Treat us with more caution? That's reasonable. Not like garbage though.

If you are a person who commits robbery, murder, manslaughter or rape, then you ARE garbage. And the police have to deal with that shit all day long, and often have to deal with people who are bigger and stronger than they are, plus stoned or drunk on top of that. So responding violently is a survival reflex, not racism. It doesn't help that any of them could get fired at any time if accused of racism. They have to deal with greatly increased risk of losing their livelihood to losing their lives every day because of this.

That does not excuse the death of the black guy, that was clearly unnecessary brutality. But they should just let the cop get tried and put into jail for it, instead of launching nationwide riots and lootings. People are murdering on the street for no reason and looting stores that had nothing to do with the entire thing. It's the police who have to deal with that shit; which in turn will just generate more police brutality.
>How many decimals of accuracy do you require for the numbers to be not horseshit?
It's based on percentage difference, not decimal precision:
>Imperial countries like America - 10% or nearest 10%
>Metric countries - 5%
The difference between your claimed 90% and admitted 27% is so far above these thresholds that it qualifies as 'bullshit', as its current definition in formal writing is that a bullshitter, unlike a liar, "doesn't care if what they say is true or false, but rather only cares whether their listener is persuaded."[1]
I'm being a cunt about it, sure, but confidently claiming a statistic that was off by over 60% is not alright.

>If you are a person who commits robbery, murder, manslaughter or rape, then you ARE garbage.
Yes, they are.
If you're arresting someone strongly suspected of those types of crimes, you can treat them with less dignity. Arresting people for non-violent crimes usually doesn't warrant the same treatment.

>So responding violently is a survival reflex, not racism.
To a degree, yes it is a survival reflex. Especially so if they are arresting someone acting violent or armed and suggesting they might use that weapon. That makes complete sense even if it's not ideal.
To the degree that a submissive person needs their head, neck or back touched, no. That's the part that I see as the problem, it's normalized for some police to go beyond reasonable force.
>fired at any time
Fired if they fuck someone up or commit negligent manslaughter. I can get arrested or fired at any time too but (generally) only when I do something bad enough to earn it.

>final paragraph
I completely agree with you here.
I don't think the behavior which leads to these deaths is acceptable, but the response by the rioters and looters is just as messed up. In my mind, they're just as bad as the 'bad cops'.

[1] On Bullshit (2005), by Harry Frankfurt. p. 61.
who gives a shit

fuck niggers
Much better.
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Can't make this shit up: Antifa took over several blocks in Seattle and declared it the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ). They made a garden so they can become self sufficient.
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As if CHAZ itself wasn't hilarious enough, the garden is a bunch of cardboard paper with random soil plastered over it, and a couple of room vegetables planted here and there (room vegetables sprout no seeds). Due to the cardboard, it's not like the plants can reach the actual soil either, so they will either wither and die or will be overgrown with weed.

Having some potted plants in there is just the cherry on top.

This is Idiocracy tier gardening.
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Mstr Twistr
I am neither nazi nor commie, and I plant shit like a boss. What a travesty. Can it be a joke?
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If "Impeach Fuzz" came out this year, would people think it's a parody of Trump?
Mstr Twistr
Everyone thinks that everything is a political parody today.

politicians should not be allowed to use social media.
There's been a huge looting/riot in Chicago today.
Mstr Twstr
Well, since it's Chicago, not much of a difference.
Mstr Twstr
To defend everyone ever, if a politician is banned from the public square, any media company can tell you what that politician did or said using edited footage. I hope you don't agree it is a good idea.
>any media company can tell you what that politician did or said using edited footage.

If politicians are only allowed to communicate through official statements and not twitter knee-jerk reactions, then the only official source for what a politician said is the official statement, and everything else can be assumed to be doctored for the purpose of making them look worse.
Of course, any decent politician should have already recognized that and not spout bullshit 24/7 on twitter...

Perhaps it would be more important to get people realize that stupid bullshit on Twitter is not news, it's just stupid bullshit.
Mstr Twstr
It seems to be working though, so the 24/7 bullshit shall continue.
Well, yeah, politics is a three ring circus.
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Masks are loaded with fluoride gas that you breathe in as you wear them [citation needed]
Mstr Twstr
Sometimes the once victim becomes insane and spreads the virus of insanity.
You know my crack about fluoride gas was a joke regarding the old "fluoride is added to the water to mind control citizens" conspiracy nonsense.

A joke statement put forward to make fun of the comic.
I was not pretending to be retarded, I've just had enough exposure to retards on imageboards this week to forget that parody is alive and healthy. I am sorry, and I really need to stay here more often. It's comfy here.
What is this Qanon bullshit I randomly encountered? It apparently started as something cooked up by a dude on 4chan but grew into shit that people in a wider circle freak out about or take seriously.

It doesn't seem all that unique for shit you read on the internet but guess because its based around current politics is to why it has spread?
It's a /pol/ meme, like how 15 years ago you had everyone wearing V for Vendetta masks while doing protests. I guess it became bigger because every moron and half plus their grandma and their dog is reading the internet now, while before it was just geeks and nerds.
>It apparently started as something cooked up by a dude on 4chan but grew into shit that people in a wider circle freak out about or take seriously.
Yeah, most likely and allegedly started as ironic shitposting on /b/ then /pol/ but was hijacked as a political tool.
Yes, to that second paragraph.
Well, the debate about as much of an interruption-fest than I expected but it could be far worse.
Fuck China and their hordes of retarded nationalist jackoffs.

People on the internet shouldn't be getting threatened and harassed by the swarm just for happening to mention the word Taiwan in passing while reading through a list.

That's Taiwan that they get pissy over, T-A-I-W-A-N.
That's not china exclusive. You can lose your job over saying something on twitter that is sexist, antisemitic or homophobic , OR deemed as such by someone who turns it into a big deal. Even if it is a true statement, like that men and women are not equal and they are more suitable for different jobs.

And that is why the first cardinal rule of the Internet is to NOT USE YOUR REAL IDENTITY. Of course, Big Media can't datamine you if you do that, and that's why all big sites now ask for your real name - facebook even requires you to submit personal identifications.
Job witch-hunt mobs are bad to be sure, but the glorious communist dictatorship of China is on another level than any bunch of whiners on social media.

So Fuck China and let's hope the entire nation collapses into a pit from their incredibly poor record of health & safety standards.
No. The only difference between the two is that in China, the state runs the state, while in the west, corporations lobby the politicians who run the state. Also in the west a couple of liberal warriors can just "call to attention" your EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC posts, make some noise online, and you get booted. So the west might be worse.
Oh go away with your American Democrat/Conservative tribal bullshit.
This has nothing to do with america. It affects all nations, and has affected them since antiquity. The only difference is now it happens faster and more publicly thanks to social media.

You could've gotten axed in medieval Europe or ancient Rome too for having said the wrong thing.
Your argument is so broad as to be meaningless.

Saying someone would and will happen to slap you in the chops over a disagreement doesn't change something happening from being seriously fucked up.
I'm not saying it's not terrible, I'm just saying that it happens in all cultures and job witch-hunts are essentially the same thing. You could say "the earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around" in the 15th century and get excommunicated by the church, and it's the same thing as stating "I support taiwan / hong kong protestors" and now you can't work in Hollywood / NBA / whatever.
>The only difference is now it happens faster and more publicly thanks to social media.
And also, social media gives everyone megaphones without the social inhibition of real life people. People more often say stupid shit publicly instead of privately and become a reputational risk to their employers. Non-famous people become famous by lottery.
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Guess who says they have COVID? HAIL ERIS
(Fun facts: BMI >= 30.0 is a risk factor and elevated blood pressure is a suspected risk factor)
He's got a number of factors that much increase his risk of complications from the illness but as a man of wealth and power he's got all the medical attention at his fingertips.

It might be somewhat fitting if he popped his clogs from COVID, could make people in the same political camp care more, but I doubt it will end up that serious.
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>Guess who says they have COVID?

Suppose its also a possibility he's faking to get sympathy votes or get out of having to do another debate.
Who hasn't called-in sick to work at some point?
Possible but I'd say very unlikely. Denying the severity of COVID and mocking mask-wearers then getting it is not a good look at all.
Hah, what if he comes back from being infected with the Rona and is all like "Covid 19 is a pussy disease, look how easily I beat it".

He's got a history of throwing out dumb shit in official statements.
Mister Twister
Looks like you are cracking his secret style.
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Bloody hell, the difference between the two is pretty stark, was this the most photogenic line worker they had available?

along the lines of how this was NK's tallest soldier they had to try and front with.
Mister Twister
Finally, some debates that were normal.
For a second, my dumb ass thought you meant the recent AZ senate debate, which was between two ex-fighter pilots (one also being an former astronaut) which was still more normal than the presidential debates.
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Mister Twister
Top LeL.
Fuck Rainbow capitalism. It's embarrassingly pathetic like Blaxploitation films.
t. left (USA) - center (Real)
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The Trump fanboys over there in Freedomland are going nuts.
Yeah, but the other side is cheating votes worse than the socialists did in the late 1940s in eastern europe.
Why is 'socialism' such a buzzword for Americans?
I didn't mean the bullshit social democrats in the americans, I mean the actual communists who rebranded themselves as "socialist" after uprisings in the eastern bloc made the communist term too toxic.
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Not sure, but most likely a mix of Cold War propaganda (capitalism vs communist, to them socialism means the same as communism) and abuse by political groups that brand social support policies and equity (which I believe is nothing to do with actual socialism) as bad and anti-capitalist/anti-liberal. Hence why people will unironically assert health care and social justice is socialist.

The Michigan one was the result of Shiawassee County accidentally reporting a 0 on the end of Biden's number (153,710 instead of 15,371), then fixing it once noticed. Hence 138k votes all for Biden. Graphs and results have been fixed.
If someone was rigging an election on purpose, they wouldn't make it that blindingly obvious.
>capitalism vs communist, to them socialism means the same as communism
No, it's the other way around. In the USA, socialist are about the same as the social democrats in Europe. It's in Europe where socialists are commies because commies rebranded themselves as socialists for various reasons (bloody uprisings, regime changes, etc).
There was a guy reporting on USPS re-stamping election mails with dates a day earlier so they don't count as late votes.
Trump is being a gigantic baby throwing a literal tantrum over social media, someone around the guy needs to take his social media away from him in high-stress situations.
Whoever wrote this thing needs to go back to school, some atrocious grammar.
Wow, look! It's fucking nothing!
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Get thee behind me satan, the power of the Lord compels you!

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Its like watching an internet lolcow flip out online.

I've seen that mentioned before, what is that term used for?
Mister Twister
Either a scapegoat, or someone who is legit a complete loser. Either way, someone people love to shit on (online).
Have you heard of Chris-Chan? That's a rather well known example.
So basically internet autists?
Mister Twister
Yes, and no. I used the term "scapegoat" for a reason. If enough people decide you are human garbage, then you are. It does not matter if you done nothing to deserve it, you are human garbage because The People need to channel their hatred on someone.

Basically, 1 in every 10 people Kiwi Farms have a thread about? A decent human being.
You were the subject of one of those threads, right?
What will Zyklon Ben "Six Million More" Garrison do when Trump is no longer in politics? When he'll no longer have the opportunity to draw said old fat guy as handsome and super ripped on the regular?
A lolcow is someone people milk for laughs. Hence the name.

And basically what Twister said. Most of them are A-logs (people who are so obsessed with demonizing and harassing internet strangers that they become a more deserving target)
He'll just keep drawing more stupid shit, so nothing will change.
Thinking about it, Maddox might be a stronger example.
Maddox Lost Songyoutube thumb

In that you can't point to an obvious mental illness to handwave his issues or the assholary of his actions. It's all on him.
Man, I haven't seen anyone fall so hard as Maddox did.
He was an internet hardman able to hide behind the facade of a website being edgy in the early days of the internet history, but couldn't keep it going once he revealed his lameass self in person and more talented people came about doing similar things in humor but better.
It's not that, he could've just kept writing and have the same fame as before. Hell, he could've kept to his youtube shorts, which were pretty much the same just in modern millennial "I hate reading" format.
But no, he had to start doing live radio cases, the one thing that will show that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Then there's the fact he's a creepy jealous wanker.
I mean a large part of the pathetic underhanded backstabbing bullshit he did was over the fact an ex-girlfriend of his from ages ago was getting fucked by Dick Masterson.
I remember that part. Masterson called him a cuck, for which Maddox sued him for defamation, and then it was revealed that Masterson was fucking Maddox's girlfriend. The court proceedings must've been hilarious.
It wasn't even his girlfriend, it was his ex.
Maddox was just so obsessed with her he couldn't handle Dick dicking her, that along with suing everyone around him for getting called a cuck he roped his current girlfriend in to call up the school the ex worked at to try and get her fired.

There's that youtube lawyer guy, Nick Rekieta? He documented the events of the lawsuit if you wanna hear more of the details.
Yeah, it's all so fucking surreal, since his articles give a feel that the person who wrote them was intelligent. They weren't just all edgy bullshit, they had legit arguments, pointed out hypocrisies, and were also funny. Even his first book was tons of fun.

And then he does all that dumb shit. What the fuck?
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This is just getting kind of sad.
Starting to look as if the guy actually will need to be dragged out of the office kicking and screaming at the end of his shift.
The China plague part is right, though.
No, its just more him trying to pass the buck on America's poor handling of the outbreak.
There were videos back in February with Chinese people going through shops and specifically touching everything they could. They could've prevented a worldwide virus but they specifically did not.
I mean, whose economy benefits the most from it, the counties who have to lock down everything, or the ones who give zero shits about human lives and produces all the masks (and most other equipment)?
Peak conspiracy theory.
>someone is trying to take credit for something they had very little influence over, but he mentioned the correct origin country
The Government is heavily responsible for national defense. Even if it was an intentional pandemic which I seriously doubt and which governments worldwide have not stated, the US governments and citizens overall handled it horrendously, even compared to similar nations.
My country has a massive Chinese population, much larger by proportion, and we handled it just fine. Other enemies of China in the Asian region have it under control (partially due to epidemic experience with MERS and due to dense population making it socially accepted to wear masks in public anyway to prevent flu and other disease). In 2018, I would see a few people a day wearing masks in a city. USA, on the other hand, has a much more individualist culture that doesn't help.

The US governments made it a political thing and influential people actively discouraged safety precautions and recklessness. No other governments I know of did this. You can't blame China for that.

>I mean, whose economy benefits the most from it, the counties who have to lock down everything, or the ones who give zero shits about human lives
[citation needed]
You know China needs their citizens healthy and alive to sustain an economy too, right? You know they had multiple-week lockdowns, right? America didn't lockdown everything, especially not churches which were and are responsible for major spreading events.
So Trump has fired "Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Director Christopher Krebs" for disagreeing with him in his rants on the election and how it was all a big conspiracy against his presidency.

What a spastic.
So, odds on Trump fleeing the country to found Blue Lives Greater America as a floating pirate colony?
He's old and petty, he'll just keep complaining that he was robbed to anyone that will listen after the great American tradition of throwing lawyers at the problem to get his way doesn't pan out.
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What's the deal with presidential pardons?

Why is it a President is allowed to just exonerate people at whim like it was some sort of Monarchy?
Proceeding to throw it around flagrantly when their period in office comes to an end
Presidents can issue pardons because they have a constitutional right to do so, but it only extends to federal crime, not state crime.

As for why they throw it around more in the end, I imagine because that's the only change they can do by that time. A bit late to try to push a twelve point legislation to improve health care when you are out of office in a month.
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Australia is passing a law that allows users to be fined up to $100 000 for trolling online.
>anonymous shitposting imageboards are now a credible source
fucking newfags I swear

>it's illegal to photograph Muslim women without hijab
The bill doesn't say that, unless "an ordinary reasonable person would conclude that it is likely that the material was intended to have an effect of causing serious harm to a particular Australian adult" AND the action is such that an "ordinary, reasonable person in their position" would regard it as being harassing or offensive AND is technically seen as offense (e.g. standards of moralit, not for medical or art merits, etc.) along with other qualifiers. (see section 7 Cyber-abuse material targeted at an Australian adult)
the ISP block applies only to inciting/promoting/instructing/being "abhorrent violent conduct", see the draft Division 2—Blocking requests, Section 95 Blocking request)
>small and independent websites won't be able to comply
They say this as if we don't already comply with similar laws regarding child pornography. As someone who actually does moderate small independent sites hosting user generated content, this is unsubstantiated bullshit. It also requires that you have and fail to attempt to remove users who are messing with football.
>censor anything with no oversight
Except it doesn't. At all.

>half the other lines
[citation needed]

Furthermore, it's only a draft and it's open to public feedback for the next couple of months. These type of bills usually get watered down a bit when the opposition party make recommendations.
t. studied cyber law academically, professionally affected by international cyber law incl. Aus
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Mister Twister
Based actually knowing what you're talking about.
Is he still in office?
Until the 20th of January
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What a goddamn loser

Looking to shift the blame to everyone but himself
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Yeah, the rioters kicked in the doors, the politicians were evacuated, rioters took some photos of themselves posing in the big chair or at desks in the back and looted some memorabilia.
One rioter got shot in all the chaos.
If the rioters were black, every politician would be showing their support for them.
Oh fucking cry some more anon.
Please, you know I'm right.
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fucking lmao
Silly mutt, that's not how you steal the election.
Mister Twister
This is Occupy 2.0, but we aren't ready for that conversation. LOL
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Batman just arrived on the scene.
Mister Twister
Occupy 2.0 indeed. Now all we need is Spiderman.
When people say spiderman related to a protesting spectacle my mind jumps more to Fathers for Justice.
If the rioters were black and not right-wing, they would be shot with rubber bullets and beaten before entering the building, just like the last set of protests.
Yeah and then you'd have half a year of protests and BLM paraded everywhere.
But they weren't, so it wasn't a problem to shoot and kill a woman during the protests.
One woman during the whole event got shot when she tried to breach an internal barricade manned by secret service personnel with their guns clearly drawn.

That's a Darwin Award on her part.
>so it wasn't a problem to shoot and kill a woman during the protests.
The way they did it was problematic. No warning shots or anything.
Of course it's a problem. Police abuse is police abuse.
I think the reason it 'won't be a problem' in the public eye is because she was breaking into a barricaded section of a federal government building, but anti-police protesters should really take advantage of this potential coalition with right-wing people discovering the extent of police issues.
Mister Twister
She was a woman, so people feel sympathy.
...you don't shoot "warning shots" into a hallway anon, guns aren't funny noisemakers.
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Zyklon Ben rises again
So instead we use those guns to shoot a person who would most likely have backed down from a relatively harmless show of lethal power. I dunno, shooting the hallway floor seems like a better solution for everyone, unless they had more appropriate equipment on hand.
It depends on what the floor is made out of, but if it's just normal wood then the bullets would most likely not rebound. ie. it would have been fine.
Have you even seen a gun in real life before.
I have fired pistols and rifles.
How about you actually explain your argument so the thread knows what you're trying to say? Are you suggesting that ricochet is likely?
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Can't believe schizos still worship Trump even after his bitch video message post-riot.

He's clearly just another limpwristed politician who is only good at blowing hot air to buffer his own ego, he's the last one who actually wants anything to kick off anywhere nearby that might put him personally in danger.
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>dog comms
>fucking dog comms
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Well, if Time says it, guess he incited. Time never lies after all.
I mean, he HAS been inflaming them constantly since he lost the election with his neverending whining across social media that all his opponents are an evil conspiracy that stole the presidency because they hate him and they hate FREEDOM!

But this was never with an well-formulated plan with the goal to cause a riot in Washington, it was more because he's a petty faggot that needed to assuage his ego and will blame everyone before he blames himself.

He wasn't even prepared for the weaksauce disturbance that occurred with a minimal loss of life, immediately rolled over and tried to run things back like a kid that knocked over a vase in his tantrum and realized he fucked up.
Mister Twister
That's the thing, you can interpret anything anyway you want, but he has never incited rioting or violence. I dare you to find a single tweet (that hasn't been edited) or video where he had.

And in case you want to know why the fuck I am defending Drumpf (besides "lol I'm retarded"), quoting the immortal words of Sage Freehaven himself, I defend whoever I like. I will defend the Devil himself if I want to. And I won't wait for permission from anyone.
That's just the bigger problem with Trump in general, he has no decorum or sense of dignity as well as being fucking stupid.
Your words actually have meaning when you hold public office, you aren't just a shitty business owner anymore.
I agree, that's what he is too stupid to realize - as much as him farting in the wrong direction at the wrong time could have serious repercussions for the entire country.

The few tweets of him that I checked, none of those sound like they are inciting anything, but when you have 300 million retards reading them, at least some thousand would call it a call to arms.
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Life is the greatest artist.
yeah, im gonna need a source for that
If I was a president who was worried about corporate control of social media, I would simply create a Department of Public Social Media to run a publicly owned social media network, maybe work with the UN to make it an international project.

For one, it'd actually have to adhere to public speech laws, so it wouldn't just be an excuse to dunk on vulnerable people without opposition. And even though it would obviously be watched by law enforcement, possibly even with police as official moderators, it'd at least be logged in a very upfront and legal way instead of by some secret PRISM-style program.
As an European, I don't quite understand what the big deal is with the capitol riots, the USA had nonstop riots for the past six months and only now did they notice that something is going on? Or if the rioters were putting BLM graffiti everywhere, then they wouldn't be considered domestic terrorists now? Shit is so hypocritical.

Yeah but that wouldn't work because it would need to have feature parity with twatter and fartbook for people to use it. Then again if Trump endorsed it, it could have taken off much faster. Like how Signal is crashing right now from all the new users cause Elon Musk name dropped it.

I'm actually surprised that with his billions of dollars, Trump didn't bother to commission some silicon valley company to develop them his own social media platform. Even if he just had a news site with phone notifications + a "share on twitter" button, he could've posted way the fuck more without having to worry about twitter stomping on him.
Mister Twister
When your side is right, and the other side is stupid AND evil AND the devil, hypocricy stops being a thing.
>the USA had nonstop riots for the past six months and only now did they notice that something is going on?
The federal government cares more when people storm the senate rather than protest in cities about police issues.
But I don't understand what you mean by "only now did they notice that something is going on". Who noticed what was going on? Are you saying that BLM protests aren't being considered as bad?

>I'm actually surprised that with his billions of dollars, Trump didn't bother to commission some silicon valley company to develop them his own social media platform.
Now that you mention it, me too. But I don't even know if his supporters would use it except for the ones that got mass banned from the mainstream.
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In other news
>But I don't understand what you mean by "only now did they notice that something is going on". Who noticed what was going on?

From what I see in the news, there were riots non stop every week, billions of dollars in damages, and attempts at overthrowing the police force. Senate did absolutely fuck all about it. But they do the same in capitol hill and we are instantly talking about domestic terrorism.

>The federal government cares more when people storm the senate rather than protest in cities about police issues.

I understand that one act has more weight than the other, but what I'm seeing is either "caring more about one event", it's not giving any fucks about one of them, and immediately taking action about the other.
User 9
Oh, well that's actually fairly simple: The senate is only expected to be involved in this instance because the president is involved in the crime. Congress, which incidentally includes both the senate and house since it's bicameral, does not usually act as a court of law, and is not being asked to take action against the rioters themselves. That's being handled by various law enforcement agencies and the judiciary, which very much did take notice of BLM. Congress itself is only being asked to impeach the president and possibly some of its own members who supported him.
>"Agent James Burk of the ATF is suing the city of Columbus, Ohio and two police officers for using excessive force against him. He claims he was tased, handcuffed, and detained while performing a "routine" confiscation of an unlawfully possessed shotgun."
>federal agents on the Fuck The Police bandwagon now
When a police officer says get on the ground and points a weapon at you, it's usually not a good idea to decline. Initial reaction by the ATF agent was cocky and unprofessional, compliance would have immediately diffused the situation.
However it's also unfortunate that the police got personal about it as if that will help ('Who do you think you are?', 'You ought to be ashamed of yourself!', 'Why would you make us do this?' especially once they are remorseful). I understand there's strong emotion when weapons are involved but I was hoping they would be more professional.
The ATF dude was a total scumbag, who was swooping in like some cowboy on a woman instead of following proper procedure which is what got the police called on him in the first place.

He appeared with no warrant, had no contact with local law enforcement and tried to bully everyone he encountered when its extremely easy for someone to get a fake badge (that he wasn't even showing openly)
To find a government agent acting that way would naturally inspire disgust in others and I don't blame a cop for making statements like that.

As a side-note the guy also has a prior mark on his record for stealing wine.
>He appeared with no warrant, had no contact with local law enforcement
I didn't know about that, if true then yeah he shouldn't be in law enforcement.
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If you're going to resist arrest, you may as well do it properly.
So, I'm guessing with threats surrounding the inauguration, the obvious precaution to take would be to have Kamala Harris attend the event remotely from a secure location in addition to having the usual designated survivor? Then if anything happens to Biden, Harris can be immediately sworn in and direct a response to the attack.
tbh at this point it feels like they'll have more to fear about Antifa rioters than MAGA ones.
Try going back about half a year to when that would even remotely make some sort of sense.
Antifa are anarchists. Their goal is to wreck the establishment, not to make sense. If they have a chance to incite a riot, they will do so.
I meant back to when your argument even remotely made some sort of sense, not theirs. As for anarchists, rioting and wrecking the establishment can be less of an end of itself than a means of preventing archon-like positions from abusing everyone else, so I don't really believe you there.
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Man didn't know Big Daddy Trump was such a huge fan of Lil Wayne
Mister Twister
Be careful anon, Pepe is a hate symbol.
User 9
I wonder if Biden will use that White House Vimeo account that Obama used but Trump never touched in his entire presidency despite his preoccupation with media and social media in particular.
Man the last time I checked, the shole "trump is playing 4d chess" was just a /pol/ meme, not an actual fucking movement. How did that ever grow so big?
I mean you could probably concoct some sort of theory out of the fact social media lets idiots and the mentally ill gather together in communities which allow them share and reinforce their delusions in a way that was not possible in earlier eras as an explanation.
Everyone has an online presence now.
Anonymous ## Mod
>Mods please explain why Biden isn't arrested yet
bad things happen to those who ask too many questions about the moderator illuminatus.
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Biden's inauguration speech used the words 'patriot' and 'storm' early on.
I wonder what the more radial Qfags will make of that. TRUMP IS IN A BIDEN COSTUME.
Meanwhile, over on 8kun...
https://nitter.net/JessReports/status/1352038265143005202 [twitter frontend without tracking]

TL;DR: vigilante Qanon Global Volunteer 'Pillow' who came to the site for GamerGate, nukes the /qresearch/ board out of disgust for the newfags and Jim Watkins (and Ron for not deleting /leftypol/ and /interracial/, apparently), as a supposed coup de grace.
Apparently Joe Exotic was amongst criminals who expected Trump to (for some reason) bail him out personally with a presidential pardon.

You know, I think it has been proven that straight up politics boards just don't work on an imageboard.
I mean, I'm not against discussing it - like we do it here - but having a dedicated board to it is a bad idea, as it creates an influx of idiots who then spread to the rest of the site. Making such boards user-created and user-managed is even worse and a huge legal liability.
Prime /pol/ actually was degraded in quality by the influx of Qanon/Trumpfags that infested it ever since he got elected.
And yes it led to the containment board no longer containing since the spastics in question dragged their shit everywhere they went on the website.

Its hard to believe but you can actually say "/pol/ was better back in my day".
Yeah, I remember that. You had things like the self-improvement general thread. You had people actually discussing world politics. /pol/-chan was that russian statue that had a shadow that looked like an anime girl. There were people that geolocated ISIS videos based on the surroundings seen in the video, and passed the info to the US army (who then actually bombed the area). Even the qanon thing started out as a hilarious meme, for example back when you had a few black nfl players not standing up during the anthem, it was played off as Trumps master tactic to make blacks kneel before him.

Right now the board is all just twitter reposting and "OH NONONO"s everywhere. In fact you can actually get more intelligent history and politics related discussions on other boards, except that you have to filter out half the posters who say "get back to /pol/" and the thread can get deleted at any time (even if it is otherwise on-topic, ie. it discusses what the board is made for, just touching on the political aspect of it).
Mister Twister
>How did that ever grow so big?
It was just a distraction. Most "stupid and strange" online movements are.
It's the thing about /pol/ and to a degree /mlp/ is where the containment boards actually became a site attraction. It's horrifying but /pol/ has been the #1 board for years, /b/ is now #4.

If I were somehow tasked to restore glory to 4chan, I would start by making a script to ban (without saying why) all users who have posted on politics boards and no other boards for a whole week. Like straight up 'ban reason: chemo'.
And also make /pol/ post limit something like 120 sec.
Or just permanently merge /mlp/ and /pol/. This was done as a joke some years ago, but honestly? It might improve both boards.

Maybe you could also remove /pol/ altogether, with a message specifically mentioning that if you want to talk politics you can fuck off to 8chan. The extra influx of users would DESTROY that place.
Mister Twister
>if I was the benevolent dictator of 4chan Prime, the things I would do.....
I'd permaban every IP that ever posted on /trash/.
>April Furs Day reunion
jokes on you, they're used to ban evasion
Mister Twister
>...... I would find a way to pay mods more. And fire those that hate fun.
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Was this from sort of app that was going around to insert Bernie into images?
Heard that was a thing on top of regular photoshopping.
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I don't know, it feels more like just regular photoshopping contests, like the one on something awful or b3ta, or whenever twitter goes apeshit.
Black Hand ## Developer
If I ran 4chan, there would be nothing benevolent about that.
Mister Twister
You're gonna ban everyone you don't like, won't you?
Black Hand ## Developer
Mercy is for the weak.
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So you favor the Cobra Kai school of moderation?
Black Hand ## Developer
The Black Hand follows only the word of the prophet.
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Is the Politics thread also the World News thread?
Because the shit going down with investments related to Gamestop would qualify.

A bunch of fellow autists on reddits are breaking everything when they decided to get in the middle of rich assholes pulling the regular everyday stock corruption.
>Is the Politics thread also the World News thread?
Not necessarily but we don't have one of the latter so maybe it qualifies.

Either way, what exactly is going on with gamestop? Not the first time I heard of it, but I don't know what's going on. Isn't gamestop in the red due to stores closing down a lot with online gaming getting more traction for the past decade?
Basically Inside traders and hedge funds looked to get even richer by manipulating & shortstelling Gamestop stock were stopped short (hoho) by common retards like me and you deciding to get together and buy up Gamestop.

Now the rich are crying and wailing at this display of communism in their sacred market by the plebs while WSB is flying the price rocket of stock in only one direction, to the stars.
Okay, now can you explain that in single english because I don't know what half of those terms mean.
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Honestly, the world would be better if the bootheel could be applied to the actual throat of these scumbags instead of just their crooked investments.
Guess you gotta take what you can get.
I still don't understand what the hell is going on. Brokers are trying to sell Gamestop stock for lowest prices to make the price of the stock tank, but reddit bored millionaires are buying it at high price, reinforcing the stock instead for the lulz? I don't quite understand the significance and would be grateful if you could explain it.
Its not reddit millionaires, its just ALOT of people on reddit, /biz/ etc.
Okay think about it like this, somebody has 10 apples that all cost 1 dollar each. You think the price of apples is gonna drop to 50 cents, so you borrow 3 apples from a lender, sell them to somebody else for 3 dollars.

If you're right and the price goes down, you can buy the apples back for 50 a piece, so you now have 6 apples, then you return the 3 you borrowed and you make out with a profit of 3.

However borrowing naturally means the person lending the apple gains interest. So you can't wait forever for the price of apples to drop.

Here's where the gamestop situation comes in. Currently there are more borrowed apples (shorted gamestop stocks) than there are apples total, currently 140%ish.

Wallstreet bets saw this and realized "Yo if we just buy a fuck ton of apples and hold it, the people that borrowed the apples will have to pay whatever we want them to."

It's a war of attrition, it all depends on who bucks first. The only way the hedge funds that shorted gamestock stocks gets out of this is if the people on r/wallstreetbets all tank the stock price by selling. However many people on r/wallstreetbets refuse to sell until it gets to a certain price. It was originally $420.69, then $1,000, but now there's no knowing how high they'll let it go.

The hedge funds have to buy at some point, because of the interest, the users on r/wallstreetbets basically get to decide how much they sell for.

Shorting stocks is high risk high reward, the hedge funds are simply feeling the actions of their consequences (and they don't like it at all).
Mister Twister
Smart anon.
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The rich and the suited are literally trying to shut Wallstreetbets down because they don't like competition. WSB's Discord has been nuked.

Though its not like this is the start of the dirty tactics, they've been dealing after hours and getting media outlets to push false information to try and scare people into selling for awhile now.
>Wallstreet bets saw this and realized "Yo if we just buy a fuck ton of apples and hold it, the people that borrowed the apples will have to pay whatever we want them to."

Oh, I see. I kind of get it now, except for the part that why wall street is so fucking stupid.
Still, that situation as you described it is pretty hilarious.

Shit now I feel like watching some movies with similar tactics. The only one I know of is the DiCaprio one, Wolf of wall street.
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Normally Wall Street works somewhat together through gentlemen's agreements and manipulation of sources so that this kind of scheme works. That's why they are so upset that joe public walked in and broke it over the knee.
The rare individual on the tv who is actually on the side of the public and their activities instead of the hedgefunds.
Saagar Enjeti: Wall Street Elites DESTROYED, Beaten By Redditors At Their Own RIGGED Gameyoutube thumb
Further general video explanation of the current happenings for people who can't read.
How r/WallStreetBets Made GameStop's Stock Price Soar: Reddit Takes on Short Sellers - TLDR Newsyoutube thumb
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Tricks are getting dirtier.
In addition to not letting people buy new stock the online broker Robinhood forcefully sold peoples shares against their will during a dip to support the hedge funds.
Of course they are getting hit with a Class Action Suit in response.

Gotta keep the pressure on these scum.
Kevin O'Leary is in favor of recent stock market events, the Massachusetts secretary of being stereotypically dull not so much in this little broadcast back and forth.
Massachusetts secretary of state and Kevin O'Leary debate Reddit short squeezeyoutube thumb

Not a big deal but just an interesting little clip to watch.
There's already a shitload of "the jews did it" surrounding this.
That's literally all /pol/ is capable of, screaming about Jews no matter the current situation.
If anything Judaism is a red herring, a convenient way for the mega-rich to draw the idiots out and use them as a handwave to brush off any opposition.

The important part to focus on is the Rich Scumbag demographic involved in all the crooked business, the race or faith of individuals within that is only a distraction.
Mister Twister
>If anything Judaism is a red herring, a convenient way for the mega-rich to draw the idiots out and use them as a handwave to brush off any opposition.

I never hoped someone on the *chans would get it.
Some of the short sellers involved in this are indeed jews (Steve Cohen, Gabe Plotkin of Melvin Capital).

And no, Judaism isn't being used as a red herring. Not as long as they have enough influence to annex countries for their own, and not as long as they consider themselves as a master race who are above others.
Case in point...

>Some of the short sellers involved in this are indeed jews
Yes, Some.
And by focusing only on the Jewish members of the corrupt stock market you are kneecapping the ability to actually do anything.
Thus being nothing more than a stooge.
>Yes, Some.
The two I mentioned are both multibillionaires, not "some people". And it's only /pol/ memes that focus on the jew aspect of the stock market (this is disregarding the fact that jews make up a disproportionate amount of the most wealthy or most influential people in the financial world). The normal players are there to make money, including the current situation.
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The establishment continues to fearmonger in order to scare normies into dropping their shit in fear instead of holding.
CNBC in particular is basically the propaganda arm of Wall Street, flooding the airwaves with blatantly false misinformation to manipulate things in their benefit.
>The entire market could crash

Good. Let it crash.
News like these make the whole thing worth it:

>As amateur investors banded together this week to squeeze Wall Street hedge funds by sending GameStop’s stock prices to dizzying heights, some novice traders, like 10-year-old Jaydyn Carr of San Antonio, have seen their long-term investments pay off.
>In December 2019, Jaydyn, then 8, was buying discounted games at GameStop and wishing for an Xbox One. Spying a way to use her son’s enthusiasm for video games to teach him about investing, Jaydyn’s mother, Nina Carr, decided to invest in 10 shares of GameStop at $6.19 a share for a Kwanzaa gift.
>Ms. Carr handed her son a certificate she created from an online template to explain to him that he was the owner of a tiny part of GameStop.

>Kwanzaa gift
Haha, people still celebrate that holiday?
(using politics thread because religion)

Well that just blew my mind. I never knew that Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as a prophet (as well as Muhammad, of course, along with other Old Testament prophets). I knew it was an Abrahamic religion but I assumed they didn't really care for Christ.
Let's tell the Americans!
Mister Twister
Oh, they do believe in Issah. Just don't tell them he was a son of Allah, they will tell you to shut up.
>The few tweets of him that I checked, none of those sound like they are inciting anything, but when you have 300 million retards reading them, at least some thousand would call it a call to arms.
See, that would be one thing if each tweet, and the speech right before the attack, only existed in isolation, but the thing about statements is that they tend to be interpreted in context, and taking Trump's statements in context of each other, and the other speeches at the same by people he then supported, could be taken as carrying meaning beyond what would be taken by any single claim.

And while I'm not a lawer or giving legal advice here, telling the crowd "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules." seems like it could be taken as Trump giving the crowd legal advice to the effect that there was some unspecified set of rules that would protect actions that might otherwise be considered illegal if taken in the name of "stopping the steal", which in the context of being stated at the same rally as the speech Trump says was worthy of praise for showing "guts" by calling for "trial by combat", might be taken as meaning that combat would somehow be legally sanctioned.

As well, telling the people who already participated in the attacks that they're beautiful without telling them in the same statement to retreat sure seems like it could be taken as incitement for them to continue their present activity (the attack).
User 9
Wow, that defence. Saying Trump's speech was edited out of context, and then leaning so hard on a single sentance near the beggining that didn't even ask anyone to be peaceful, but instead simply claimed they would be, in a speech that claimed current Republican tactics weren't tough enough?
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>The percentage represents the total trade ratio between China and the U.S. with each country
It's good that they bothered to put that in. Appreciated.
So to explain an example, extreme red or blue doesn't imply a country even trades with them a lot. That doesn't make the graphic meaningless, of course not, but can easily mislead if used in isolation like this.
>So to explain an example, extreme red or blue doesn't imply a country even trades with them a lot.

No, it just means that they trade a lot more with one or the other. It could be something like 1% vs 5%. But that doesn't change the fact that China has overtook the USA as the economic leader of the planet. Shit like Trumps trade war was just the beginning.
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Some political loser on social media got pissy when someone else made a "hoax tweet" and shared it which managed to get the hashtag 'Mommy Milky' temporarily trending on twitter, responded by saying he was going to sue everyone (with a blue tick on their account specifically).

This has of course just resulted in his being mocked even harder.
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Mister Twister
Hunter x Hunter is shit.

How's that for a political issue? Does your presidential candidate like shit anime and manga that is always on hiatus?
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Take a chill pill, my super"straight" friend.
So how long until Biden becomes unfit to perform his duties?
Why has every single political candidate for the position of American presidency since Obama been such complete and utter garbage?
Are you including party candidates or just the final two? If the former, there were between 1 and 3 good ones
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So, what's the difference between Straight Regular and Super Straight?
super straight people only prefer non-trans people of the opposite sex. regular straights date the opposite sex including people who transitioned to that sex. At least in the minds of trans people.
This. Be aware, it's a... controversial term since it inherently implies trans people aren't really the sex they identify as, so make sure you're aware of the implication before you think it only means 'I don't want to have sex with a transsexual'. It's like an 'all lives matter' thing where it's got a non-obvious controversial meaning that some people mean and some people don't.
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Man america is fucked up.
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A must-read for every Republican boomer.
fucking lmao
Prince Philip of the UK royal family died today, aged 99.
I don't think anyone really cares in terms of the public, if it had been the Queen herself that would be a different story.
He was the Queens husband and consort for something like 60 years. When a family member this close dies, at that age, it usually means their partner will soon follow. We've seen it happen with other celebrities (see Stan Lee for example) and I've seen it happen with some of my own relatives too.
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The world needs to stop bending the knee and surrendering more and more power to china and their army of soulless national shills.
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This reminds me of, and also reinforces, the idea that the 2024 election year might present an actual chance for Vermin Supreme.
We're no longer in emergency mode to kick Trump out, and Democrats are more easily split against an incumbent, while the Republican base could start out split between the next GOP pick and Trump hanger-ons, and join in on supporting Supreme if he gets enough support to visibly bother Democrat party leadership.
And here we are with actual internet memes being passed around in the halls of government as a serious communication method. Get ready to set aside room for keeping your ID pony.
The election process in America is nothing but a farce now, with the two parties being nothing but a pair of ridiculous cliches fighting each other for the sake of fighting.

Seeing a different group than the big 2 be voted into the position of ruler wouldn't hurt.
It's gonna be so hilarious if Trump ends up making a come back. But he'd be something like 80 by that point, wouldn't he?

>The election process in America is nothing but a farce now
Has been for a long time.
Mister Twister
The best solution would be to have a younger candidate who is not an insane marxist. But then Trump will have to decide NOT to run, and support that person instead. And if you are being supported by Trump, you are HATE-adjacent. In which case nothing about the stupid polarized insane world we live in changes, EXCEPT the candidate is younger now. Eh, I'll take it.
But yeah the Republican party is in a crisis over the conservatives and the sensationalists. I suspect a younger candidate will alienate their largest vote-base, older traditional people.

It's been like that for a long time, and it's unlikely to change as the two-party system is within both parties' benefit.
I'm fairly certain that Trump running third party would only be an obstacle for Republican candidates, and we don't need to be looking there for non-Marxists.

Though I'm curious what you think distinguishes an insane Marxist from a sane one. To my understanding, the big weakness a lot of Marxists tend to have is actually very similar to that of marketers and investors: The tendency to take analytic tools meant to predict popular trends/mass movements and use them as effectively a horoscope when making judgements of specific people and events. That, and an excess focus on expedience that can lead to sacrificing soundness, but that's not unique to Marxism either.

But really, I don't think having AOC, Bernie, or even Vermin in the oval office would tear things apart. At most, Vermin might have some issues adjusting to actually being in power instead of a perpetual candidate, but even he would have a better grasp of how government works than Trump did. And a third-party candidate like Vermin coming into power would threaten to displace either the democrats or republicans, so both could end up being persuaded to allow a ranked choice system to avoid the risk of the becoming completely irrelevant.

And perhaps more crucial than just letting third parties run in and of itself, breaking away from two party dominance would also help break the two Santa Clauses system Republicans have been using, forcing them to actually have a reasonable plan for budget instead of just running up debt only to complain about it and threaten to shut things down when a democrat gets in office.
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More context on that image?
Also that graph makes no sense.
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Mstr Twstr
I feel how the world would feel about american elections if it wasn't considered a big deal.
A "left-wing" alliance candidate (Xiomara Castro, of all names) won the Honduras election a few days ago. The conservative party made this outstanding (dis)infograph of absolute copium.
Seeing as that woman's husband was outed in a US-backed coup in 2009, I dare say a happenings is inevitable during her term.
Fuck Ukraine.
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The way the Russian government officials keep spouting how they are invading Ukraine to "denazify" it make me retch from the degree of bullshit being shoved out.
Its such obvious nonsense when they are treating this smaller country like Belgium.

And the sheer hypocritical gall to say something like in this image when Putin was the one trying to bully the world into submission by declaring heightened readiness of Russia's nuclear weapons.
>The way the Russian government officials keep spouting how they are invading Ukraine to "denazify" it make me retch from the degree of bullshit being shoved out.

It's the exact same amount of bullshit as when USA invaded Iraq for its WMDs. What Russia is doing is no different from when America invaded Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, or when Israel attacked Egypt and Palestine. Of course, those were all okay, but this one isn't. THAT is the hypocrisy of it all.
There's also been a lot of talk about Ukraine getting NATO bases in the past decade, which would mean they have a base right there next to Russia. It's basically Russias equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis. I'm not surprised they got attacked, it was only a matter of time. Ukraine isn't innocent like a newborn pony in this situation, no matter what the media wants you to believe.

I'm hoping they get bombed back to the stone age, and have their country split up based on the ethnicities of the population (Ukraine has been mistreating their minorities since the country existed).
Mister Twister
No one is completely innocent. But that is not a reason to invade. Here are Russia's real reasons:
>more buffer territory against NATO
>more oil that was found recently
>more land to grow food FOR US, fuck the people who live there
>must rebuild Glorious Russian Empire 2.0 (what USSR always was)

Here are the excuses:
>well, our people are mistreated there, we must protecc our poor mistreated people
>well, there are nazis over there, we better stomp them out

First, ask the simple question of WHY your people are (allegedly) mistreated. Did you do anything to Ukraine in the last 100 years to make them hate you? Second, ask WHY there are nazis in Ukraine still. The people got tired of abuse, and aligned themselves with the western invaders who promised to help. Enemy of enemy is friend, etc. That will never not be true.

And before some slavic supremacist posts something retarded like "well they are all the same slavic people anyway, why NOT reunify?", I will ask:
>should Sweden invade Norway?
>should Norway invade Iceland?
>should USA invade Canada?
>should France invade Quebec?
>should Spain invade Portugal?
>should Scotland invade Ireland?
>should Germany invade Austria? (lol)

Chew on that.
Russia is the one that needs to be split up.
Okay Twister, first of all consider that since you are Russian, plus4chan could show its support for Ukraine by banning you. That's the current worldwide trend you have to chew on first before saying anything.

Your list of reasons / excuses are not really correct.

>more buffer territory against NATO
Other way around. NATO forces have been using Ukraine as a buffer against Russia for a long time now. They are sending them such a large amount of weaponry that if Russia does not act now, they'd have to deal with a large fanatical army armed with state of the art weaponry right on their border. It's not dissimilar to the Cuban missile crisis was for the USA, especially if Ukraine gets armed with nukes.

>more oil that was found recently
Don't know about that, as far as I know Russia has ample amount of oil reserves.

>more land to grow food FOR US, fuck the people who live there
Russia and Ukraine are both wheat exporters, neither country has a food shortages as far as I know. However, disrupting their food exports will potentially destabilize some of the countries they export to, some of them are on the middle east (Yemen, Egypt). Look at which powers in the region will benefit from that. I'll give you a clue: they have been invading middle eastern countries for decades now.

Moreover, the current trend to cut off Russia economically will have catastrophic long term consequences on the supply of a lot of materials worldwide (not just oil/gas but also things like iron or wood). Europe is most likely to be hit the worst. And don't forget that due to sanctions they can't pay their government debt, which will remove billions of dollars from reaching other countries.
It won't be Russia who gets hurt the most, it's the rest of Eurasia that can end up financially (and then otherwise) destabilized.

>First, ask the simple question of WHY your people are (allegedly) mistreated.
Because Ukraine is ultranationalist and mistreats anyone not Ukrainian. And no, I am not talking about Russian minorities.

>The people got tired of abuse, and aligned themselves with the western invaders who promised to help.
And that excuses them from turning into abusers themselves?

>And before some slavic supremacist posts
The only good slavs are polaks. The rest can get fucked.

So does the USA, China and Israel.
So Russia is refusing to uphold the ceasefire they agreed to so civilians can evacuate through a designated humanitarian aid corridor.
Instead just continuing to bomb the shit out of the cities and routes without a break.

What a bunch of cunts.
Not to mention incompetent since the whole reason they are defaulting to their standard heavyhanded flattening of the country is because their army was too incapable and unled to manage taking the cities they were marching towards.
>>It's the exact same amount of bullshit as when USA invaded Iraq for its WMDs. What Russia is doing is no different from when America invaded Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, or when Israel attacked Egypt and Palestine.
Yes, it was bullshit to do those invasions. Invasions are still bad.

>Okay Twister, first of all consider that since you are Russian, plus4chan could show its support for Ukraine by banning you. That's the current worldwide trend you have to chew on first before saying anything.
Something about this sounds like it would involve a very nonsensical thought process on the part of the one doing the banning.

>Don't know about that, as far as I know Russia has ample amount of oil reserves.
I think the idea there is that another nearby country selling oil would have reduced the price, a matter that was more relevant before the sanctions.

Hopefully the diplomatic talks work out to a peaceful retreat, and policies that actually avoid stirring up more conflict.
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Russian politicians are so fucking pathetic.
Accuse Ukraine of threatening WW3 and Nuclear Holocaust just because their incompetent armies can't beat the smaller nation in the invasion they started.
>Russian politicians are so fucking pathetic.
Sure they are. According to whatever western media outlet you read.
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Speaking of Propaganda, Chinese examples have really gone down hill.
C'mon ping, put some effort in.
More like according to Russian media outlets.

They are the ones making cheap cgi animations of destroying the entire British isles with a single nuclear warhead launched from a sub by way of radioactive Tsunami.


The propaganda media machine in Russia is basically reporting on an alternate reality entirely.
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I'm not sure why Eva and the crane seem to be so intertwined.
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Maybe the power of internet magic cause this to will end up something like Voltes V in the Philippines.

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Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/?(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]&pagenumber=$matches[2]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=catalog&board=$matches[1]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=thread&board=$matches[1]&thread=$matches[2]&ext=$matches[3]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$/ index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$/ index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_posts\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_threads\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss

rules in htaccess format:

RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/(\d\w*)s.png$ /$1/thumbs/$2s.png [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)/(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1&pagenumber=$2 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=catalog&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=thread&board=$1&thread=$2&ext=$3 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA]

Current time:

2023-03-31 05:08:53