I finally got around to making that tumbr I've been debating making for a long time. I lost all my bookmarks of tumblrs I wanted to follow, so I'm working on that. I'm also debating if I should have separate tumblrs for my fanfictions and general purpose tumblr.
Jesus Christ so much of what serial killers do gets so incredibly edited down it worries me just how much 6 documentaries won't tell you.
I kinda fell down Deadbugs docs, his racist schtick is a little hard to handle but no one else in gonna tell you about deformed pedophile cannibals, shit eating torture killer futon salesmen or a serial killer who mutilates children into saw horses he has necrophiliac sex with.
>>415371 >no one else in gonna tell you about [all that shit] Because all of that is stuff you really don't need to know unless you get off on it. None of that information is helping anyone in any way.
>>415372 >None of that information is helping anyone in any way. Abnormal psychology is an important field of study that advances our society in many ways. By learning about harmful people and analysing their behaviour, we can learn to help or at least diagnose their mental disorders and reduce their immediate risk.
Also, not that guy but it sounds fascinating in a morbid way. Similarly to how I enjoy checking posts in the WAT thread or how I ask 4chan users about their fetishism.
The Back to the Future script or at least the edition I read) is wildly different to the final film. Doc doesn't hit his head hanging a clock this time: he hits on a girl and gets glassed in the head with a beer bottle
>>415502 I won't go into too much detail, but I will say this. After barely being paying bills for a few years now (because of reasons I will not explain), an uncle of mine has become rich. He will pay for me to move to a hueg farm he is planning on buying. He will also pay off my debts and give me a job to work there aswell. It's mind boggling to say the least.
The big snarl at the moment is not me moving, but my parents. And oh boy, do they have a tonne of garbage that needs to be thrown away. Not literal garbage, but they have storage units fill with stuff they haven't been able to go through for years. I will not move all of that shit, and I know I will be the one to help move it as I'm the last kid to not move far enough away. We are currently going through said storage slowly.
>>415504 Suggest you move to the farm. Plan regular trips to assist in cleaning out locker. I did that as my parents aged, and finally passed away. I lived 1600 miles away. Go at it intensely while you are there. If you find things parents want to ditch, if of value, you get first pick. Pics to siblings so they can state a desire to have an item. Make them come get it.
>>415575 If we could get some events going and clean up draw we could get a lot of them back, our problem is "why come here?" It used to be for the amazing community that liked to draw, then it turned into porn and no cares anymore.
>>415575 >I mean okay Moose is nominally the admin I guess but he's as rare as Anonex used to be. I don't post or browse regularly, but I do try to check the reports at least daily. The janitors have been (thankfully) shitcanning these as they come up, but because of how the board software is set up that means I can't get the IP to do bans.
I'll try to keep a close eye on the boards for a while here to catch the next spree and see if I can't nip it.
>>415572 >Just make me a mod already, I don't want to spend my goddamn day being the only janitor cleaning out bot posted CP spam when I could just ban these fucking things. Per the logs you are actually one of three. Also, request granted.
>>415595 The question is why anyone would want to be one of the "big guys?"
The answer is that those people want attention and really like having an identity, sometimes even if it's bad. Tripfags and namefags like to defend their attention whoring with glamorous statements like "taking ownership over what we post" or whatever, but that's complete bullshit to anyone who puts an amount of thought to it. In a sea of anonymous posters, where every post made must be able to carry it's own weight if it wants to be acknowledged, tripfags and namefags have an innate desire to make their opinions have more validity and be immediately recognizable. When you get down to it, it's vapid and shallow.
But honestly, who the fuck wants to be a big fish on a website that everyone but it's ten users has forgotten about? The names listed in that post aren't deserving of praise - being "popular" on this website is a goddamn mark of shame. If that's something anyone here strives for, they really need to sort themselves out and get their priorities in order.
Except Moe. He was cool.He was still a tripfag, though.
>>415614 And what's your point? 4chan didn't invent anonymous imageboards nor is it unique in that aspect.
The majority of users here remain anonymous, and most of the people who aren't are artists posting art on /pco/ (or who used to post art on other boards). Having a name is not a cultural thing here, we just tend not to give "Fuck off Boco" responses to those who do.
>>415575 I know what you mean, most of the people I really remember haven't been here in ages. Man, I spent an obnoxious amount of time on this site back during its heyday, mostly lurking since I very rarely had anything to actually contribute. I still keep the link in my Chrome bookmarks bar, in the same place it's been since like 2010, even though I just sort of poke my head in every couple of months for a few minutes.
>Sara Stewart of the New York Post described it as "hilariously ill-timed". The soccer website Goal.com said of United Passions: "The portrayal of FIFA is farcical from start to finish", and added: "Films believed to be among the worst of all time are watched by thousands of people eager to see just how bad they are. This piece of cinematic garbage belongs to that list." On Rotten Tomatoes, United Passions currently has a rating of 0%, based on 16 reviews, while on Metacritic, the film currently holds a score of 1 out of 100, based on 9 critics, and is on their list of the all-time lowest-scoring films.
>United Passions was also a box office bomb, becoming the lowest-grossing film of all time in American history (with $918), surpassing the previous record held by I Kissed a Vampire ($1,380) in 2012,
>the lowest-grossing film of all time in American history
That…may depend on how one determines how a film can hold that particular record If we are talking about the opening weekend gross, sure, United Passions takes the cake. But if we are talking about full-theatrical-run gross? That honor goes to a different film:
>Zyzzyx Road was shown once a day, at noon, for six days (February 25 – March 2, 2006) at Highland Park Village Theater in Dallas, Texas, a movie theater rented by the producers for $1,000. The limited release was deliberate: [producer and actor Leo] Grillo was uninterested in releasing the film domestically until it underwent foreign distribution, but needed to fulfill the U.S. release obligation required by the Screen Actors Guild for low-budget films (films with budgets less than $2.5 million that are not for the direct-to-video market).
>The strategy had the side effect of making the film at the time the lowest-grossing film of all time, earning just $30 at the box office from six patrons. Unofficially, its opening weekend netted $20. The $10 difference is due to Grillo personally refunding two tickets purchased by Sheila Moore, the film's makeup artist, who saw the film with a friend.
>finally gathered enough willpower to do a small yet significant thing I put off for months >as I am halfway through doing it, a weight gets lifted off my chest (literally, I could immediately breathe freely, and felt lighter) >done the thing, happy as fuck, almost crying You should try this "stop procrastinating" thing, you won't regret it.
>>415804 To be clear, they didn't bribe NYT, they just bought their own book at a bunch of stores that report to NYT to game NYT's stat taking. When it was brought to NYT's attention they removed the book from the listings.
>people pay shitloads of money to see Mayweather vs McGregor >people think it will end in some sort of dramatic knockout >it ends in a TKO in the ninth round after Mayweather lands a few solid punches that makes a tired McGregor go all wobbly-legged
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hope everyone who paid to watch that fight feels robbed.
Getting alot of likes and retweets and replies on a random twitter comment is oddly addictive, after a few days of regular new notifications I'm somewhat compelled to check in with my twitter account to see if more have came in.
What the fuck. I just walked into a room and for three seconds saw a weird effect, like imagine rows of ants moving in foot-long straight lines, except instead of being black, they were a displacement map.
It looks like the room is full of bugs and I can see how that freaks people out.
It's looking like I'm gonna have a good couple of months in the near future. I have monies and my family life has simmered down. If only I could be focused enough to write those stories I've been planning on writing for years now.
>>416163 This reminds me of a person who believed that they could filter feed off the microscopic organisms in the air. So said person went out into the woods and tried eating air for a week to prove that it worked. They found him dead a week two dead in his tent. Or the time that drilling a hole in your head was a good way to get oxygen to your brain to make you smarter.
I just had an impacted wisdom tooth removed a few days ago and it seems to have gone super well.
Not all that much pain during the operation once I got enough local anesthetic stuck in, the sound of the drilling and then snapping as sections of the tooth were yanked off were easy to ignore. Discomfort and some blood for the rest of that day but after that I've been fine, no pain or swelling. Jawbone feeling ever so slightly tender compared to the other side of my face if I actually touch it.
Was really worried about it since I've never actually had any sort of surgery before.
Just stumbled into a door and splashed a glass of hot water all over my face & chest. Wasn't hot enough enough to scald but it stings and my face is reddish. Ran face under the cold tap and it should all be fine but feel like a fucking retard.
Same goes for any site that has a pop-up modal about subscribing to a newsletter or making an account on said site (coughmediumcough). If that shit interrupts what I went to that site for, that shit also gives me the perfect reason to put a site-wide block filter in my personal uBO filters.
>oh no, I have to eat breakfast right now even though I'm not particularly hungry or there won't be enough time between breakfast and lunch before I need to head out and I need both breakfast and lunch or my body will hate me for the rest of the day Getting old sucks ass.
I've just tried to get some night time ambience sfx with crickets chirping. I know crickets are noisy fuckers, but all these "Relaxing Sleep Noises - Summer Night with Crickets" videos are fucking bombardment. The only way someone could consider this peaceful is if they have tinnitus (which to be fair is a reason why people watch said videos). I've only found one good one. //youtube.com/watch?v=2MLgI1E60AM
>>416600 Besides being surprised about virginity, I absolutely agree.
Also it's interesting to see how the brony hate has subsided. The fandom has gotten less pervasive in a good way (but I still cringe whenever I see an unnecessarily ponified version of a meme, and the same with Pepes).
>artist blocks you on an art site, no explanation given >spend months frustrated, trying to figure out what went wrong >suddenly not blocked anymore I don't know what happened, and what made it un-happen, but I am happy now.
>look up "Hey dorks, my name is Kevin and I hate every single one of you" in hopes it exists >it exists >but it was written by an autist who actually cites episode numbers in the middle of the fucking copypasta 5/10 wouldn't copy nor paste
There really is an art to making something seem subtle but actually making it obvious.
Immediately available example is scene related. While never explicitly shown, it is implied she is crossing her fingers behind her back while making a promise. The action of hiding the hand is probably so big you can't miss it, but it is brief, is off on the side of the screen and the finger crossing is never directly shown so it almost seems as if you could blink and miss it, but it's actually clear as fuck if you are familiar with the gesture.
4chan is going down and that hit me hard, it made me release how alone I am on the internet. I do have some online friends but I met all of them in 4chan. I tried to leave the site the day that thing happen but I could not live without it for a whole day. I feel that the other aons are my friends, I can't leave them behinde. Right now I feel like I'm in a stalemate, the fuck I do when 4chan shits the bed? Where do I go? Reddit, tweeter, tumblr or facebook don't seem to be any better and I just can't wrap my head around on how do they work, the biggest issue is replacing /co/, there simply isn't another place like it on the internet, all other comics communities have very narrow scopes and are run by power tripping mods the same goes for animation communities plus the fact that they're full of autists and no other place mixes both. I feel that I should start nesting somewhere else, get comfortable there and maybe let 4chan fade out of my life or be a place where I can start fresh. Right now I want to know where does the people who were channers and then left go, how could they leave?
>>416724 >I feel that the other aons are my friends, I can't leave them behinde. Wrong. You had so much fun at 4chan, that you got addicted to the place. And now you struggle because you are not having as much fun there any more, but if you can't let go either. All you are is addicted. That's all.
The first thing you need to do is ask yourself if you are still having fun there? Or are you just clicking through the threads because you are used to doing so? Think about that.
For me, it took me until recently to realize, but 4chan hasn't been like it used to be for a long time. It takes me longer and longer to find good threads. This is true for other boards too, half the time I spend on them is finding good threads. And I don't NEED to look for good threads often, because all the boards have centralized into generals. New threads come in slower, big threads last longer, depending on the board they can last anywhere from a day to weeks. Even on /pol/, the fastest board, the same threads can stay up for hours and hours.
So once I realized that /co/ isn't the place I liked anymore, and that I don't NEED to check it constantly, it has become easier to let go. I now only check it a few times a day, and only stay if I see anything interesting, or to see if any watched threads got any new posts.
The other thing you need is a hobby to keep you occupied while you lose your addiction, but really all that does is make it easier.
>all other comics communities have very narrow scopes and are run by power tripping mods This is true for /co/ as well. Threads and posts get deleted constantly, you just don't see it because so much content gets nuked silently.
>>416725 >>all other comics communities have very narrow scopes and are run by power tripping mods >This is true for /co/ as well. Threads and posts get deleted constantly, you just don't see it because so much content gets nuked silently. I was going to say this too. /co/ has a big moderation issue, and has had it for many years.>>416724
>>416724 >how could they leave? We browse other websites too. I don't have a dependancy on any website (although it would be sad if some of them went down). Not gonna sugar coat it, you sound like a heroin addict.
The other Anons are Anon. You likely wouldn't know if they left and vice versa. The beauty of 4chan is the lack of commitment. You have no account. You have no persistent identity. You can leave the site whenever. In fact, most of the anons (including me) are newfags who have replaced the people you supposedly built up a relationship with. It's fine to respect and enjoy the company of other anonymous users, of course, but you are not leaving them behind. Most of them have other places to go.
>>416726 >/co/ has a big moderation issue, and has had it for many years.>
All the other boards have it too. Again, it's just not that well known, because it is bannable to raise voice to it. /qa/ is the only place where it is discussed, and it is about a fourth of the content there (two fourths being lolikon spam and shitposting, the rest is bitching about Hiro or discussing where to go to that 4chan is dying).
>>416725 I still have fun, I post regularly about many topics and I occasionally make storytimes. The issue for me is not about quality but where else can I talk about Wakfu, move over to garfield and whatever obscure cartoon is the flavor of the month? I may have never heard about Wakfu without /co/ That's probably what I like the most about /co/, there was always something to talk about and I didn't had to search for it. As I said all the friends I have and had in recent times I made them there, they will still be there but I'm afraid if their computers are safe. I should talk about them with this and feel secure about them. The comics I like never got deleted on /co/, the storytimes I made always warmed my heart when the comments were positive. I do have other hobbies but I'm used to browse the internet while doing other stuff so i always had /co/ near me >>416726 I do lurk reddit and tumblr, I have accounts and follow some stuff but never post. Should I start posting, following more stuff and getting tangled there? I should talk with my friends to see where else do they go. Maybe I should get used to have a name but that scares me so much, I'm far too used to mix my porn with serious discussion and having two accounts on several sites sounds complicated. I hope to find them all somewhere else.
>>416729 >The comics I like never got deleted on /co/ Unfortunately, the cartoon I liked the most was deleted on site half the time and free to post the other half, no matter how SFW the thread was. A lot of discussion has moved to /trash/, which isn't really a bad thing but shouldn't have been necessary.
>Should I start posting, following more stuff and getting tangled there? Only if you would enjoy it. I occasionally post in the reddit cartoon communities (and moderate a couple) but they are very different. A downside is that most older or smaller shows don't have a community or have a dead community, whereas on 4chan you can bring up any show you want and have the same size audience see your post. Also, many or most of them will delete NSFW content. It's definitely not the same, but has benefits. >I should talk with my friends to see where else do they go. Absolutely. >Maybe I should get used to have a name but that scares me so much, I'm far too used to mix my porn with serious discussion and having two accounts on several sites sounds complicated. Well honestly, you can just use one (but I don't always use one). I've been using sites with accounts and identity for a long time, so I guess I'm used to it, but if you don't let anyone you care about know your account name and don't reveal personal or sensitive information (or just create a 'throwaway' (ie. temporary) account to do so), you might as well be anonymous. Sure, someone can look at your post history, but so what? It only matters as much as you value it. Being on 4chan a lot, you will probably be able to ignore petty bullshit like online reputation. Just check the rules, lurk for a few minutes and you should be able to fit right in to those communities.
>>416731 I remember a couple of LPS threads getting deleted because the mods thought it was MLP but not much else. Is not a matter of enjoying it, I need to be busy online, reading posting and discussing, that is why I felt so empty when I tried to leave 4chan. I really don't know where to go, I'm inclined towards tumblr because of the blogs that I already follow and I feel i can expand what I see there with ease but i never had a discussion on tumblr but i imagine how could that go. I haven't had a pseudonym account in years but i see what can i do, the best plan is to keep clean and dirty stuff on different accounts.
>but due to the ongoing neglect and disdain of the band by the British music press, one of the only original reviews was an infamous review in Vox, who rated the album a score of 0/10 --- >Over time, music critics have re-evaluated Cardiacs and their albums, and today Sing to God is considered a masterpiece
>>416739 I already have tons of hobbies, I just like to talk with people online and go from casual chit chats to deep stuff. earlier today I was wondering where can I get tech support without /wsr/ for example. Where else can I post my nonsense and have people engage in it? I been into chans since 2009 and before that the internet wasn't so centralized or commercial, I used to post on forums but those are dead. I can just silence my self after so many years Now I'm thinking about migrating to tumblr.
>notice that I've entirely been able to avoid seeing r34 of a certain character (pure) >thankful >literally less than a second later scroll into an entire thread dedicated to porn of that one character motherfucker. it physically hurt.
>>416834 I miss when Rule 34 was specifically about finding porn of character x, which was actually very difficult, since there were no microblog sites dedicated for sharing your artwork. Unless an artist had his own site and gallery set up, you were limited to wwoec and oekaki boards.
So, finding rule 34 of something was actually a challenge. Especially for something mildly obscure.
>>416936 4chan is a public site that so anything that they plan can be seen by everyone unlike s'a where only paying members can see what are they scheming, this means that they can organize in secret. paid membership also means they are better off than you. Goons have a very sadic sense of humor and are very dedicated trolls, channers are very tame next to them.
>/trash/ time >enter some well-chosen threads >learning shit about life, technology and chill anons I though I was about to waste today, but I'm actually learning important shit on the designated shitting board. 4chan is beautiful.
>>416955 Just a cartoon. I cycle to a new cartoon to obsess over every couple of years. Unfortunately it can just sneak into my mind and annoy me during the day, like regular intrusive thoughts do with people. I guess trying to push them out of my head (by imagining me violently defenestrating or shooting characters) probably isn't healthy so I might just try and live with them this week and see how it goes. I never had imaginary friends so maybe this is just a copyright-infringing, adult version of it.
>things are kind of crappy >so many things you look forward to either fail or do not show promise >sad.jpg >then one day, you get a little good news here >the other day, you get a little good news there >some more little good things happen on top of that
Is it normal to often not comprehend rap lyrics? Until I see a page of lyrics, all I will ever get is a vague collection of phrases out of the song. I guess part of it is them not always saying the whole words.
Someone I follow often posts one-liner quotes, which seem original. However I have looked up two, and both times there have been only a single or maybe a couple of google results of people saying a similar thing or using the same keywords. I don't think the quote creator stole these or even saw these quotes, but simply it is difficult to create anything meaningful yet totally original.
Although 4chan.org was excluded from archive.org, 4chan.net was not and has a couple of entries before it was sold.
On the announcements page:
>WELCOME by moot - 10/01/03 @ 10:36PM EDT
[...lots of welcoming and stuff ...]
>Edit for the world2ch crew: Don't worry, there is no plan to put up several inactive sports and political forums. This will be largely image and comedy based, we have no intention of partaking in intelligent discussions concerning foreign affairs. Oh boy.
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>>417476 You can't help but have expectations unless you have no knowledge of the thing you are having expectations about, which is normally impossible without a third party. A third party that will colour your expectations by even recommending anything to you. And completely removing expectations from your decision making will critically hinder your judgement in finding good things, be they movies, video games, books, jobs or significant others.
Lowering expectations is good, as you can always be surprised by your expectations being surpassed. But having no expectations is silly, harmful and basically impossible any way.
From the Wikipedia page of East Germany jokes: >Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. What about Socialism? Under Socialism it is exactly the other way around! (German: Kapitalismus ist die Ausbeutung des Menschen durch den Menschen. Und wie ist es mit dem Sozialismus? Da ist es genau umgekehrt!)
Well, he's not dead. He's diagnosed with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder, suicidal and homicidal, but he's not dead. I'm kinda happy about it, but I really dont think he is
Just a heads up, desuarchive and RebeccaBlackTech are breaking and there is no response from the admin. Luckily we have Fireden for /co/ and Archived.moe or whatever for all boards (thumbnail only) but this is still horrible and there may be permanently dead images.
The uniqueness was the fact that the whole site was extremely fast, and topics only lasted a few hours and then disappeared forever. Which is what made the place truly anonymous, not the fact that you could post without a name... there was no logging whatsoever, old threads only lived in the hivemind of the users. This allowed for unique board cultures to develop, since content was not restricted in any way.
It was killed in around 2011-12 when moot changed a bunch of settings to "encourage higher quality posts".
Maybe this should be in Politics thread, but this thread seems most appropriate I am european ("white", I suppose). I do not consider myself racist nor do I have any true interest in racial politics. Three memories come to my mind regarding race in childhood. In kindergarten, I have a partial memory of a 'peach' coloured pencil (as it said on the label). Most of the class were european so we just called it 'skin colour' because we were kids and skin was something you would colour in when drawing. I remember one day using the word 'skin colour' for that coloured pencil when talking to my best friend who had a south asian parent and therefore had a strong tan, and them saying it wasn't their skin colour. babbies first introduction to race. i guess i just learned that skin colour is relative and therefore not a good name for a colour, then continued not to care about race for the rest of my childhood. In early highschool (which was about equally asian+indian and european), I was in metalwork class and had just sanded the rust off a metal bar, leaving my hands covered in brown rust. I remarked that I now looked like an indian classmate, to his amusement. another student loudly told me off for saying a racist comment. Finally, in later highschool, most of the people I hung around (mostly asian and south east european, by coincidence) and myself really only treated racism as a comedic device and nothing more serious. one prankster friend who was chinese would, for example, claim to be vietnamese if you mentioned the vietnamese war and act offended to try and prey on the common fear of being accused of racism. many of them found it hilarious how cautious and nervous white people would be when racial topics came up and honestly it is. a similar thing happens within my friend groups now, where we're all self-deprecatory-racist in a joking way. especially the arabic pilot friend. as a side note, my full-chinese friend says "nigga" casually to his mother (as in "nigga, are you serious?"). it's almost surreal to see people saying that word in real life without any tension or seriousness.
>>417745 Tell me about it. I just had a talk with a band that had an extremely unstable but talented member who had to be kicked out twice for serious shit. All kinds of messed up. I believe there is a definite link between quality of art and the abnormality of the artist. That's part of why you always see narcissistic or depressed artists and nuked galleries.
>>417904 When +4chan was about to die (FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!), I made a 8chan backup. A month or so later, an unexpected helper showed up, promising to help the +4 owner fix and run the site. So, +4 kept on living, and it still lives, to this day. Making my 8ch backup completely unneeded. Hence the funeral.
>>417920 >I am literally asking you to have pity. The backup imageboard I put several days of work into is dead.
You lost a few days but gained a few days worth of work experience, making you stronger and/or smarter. That makes it a few days well spent. Past misdeeds are seeds for the ability to make a better future. As long as you have the willpower to act, you will always be able to sieze destiny.
>plan on making a change in life >mostly due to poor life choices fail to make said change >feel less than perfect about how things turned out >recently learn that the originally planned change would not have been the best idea >now feel good about my failure The change was new computer and OS. It's almost like life is a complicated ball of surprises.
>>417949 Welcome back, friend. Reccommened reading: >>>417817 A lot of the site activity died down after 4chan got /aco/ and /trash/ and 8ch rose. Still some semi-regular posting here. The site almost closed on new year, we now have a new developer and RSS feeds and catalogs. We also got rid of most of the spam. /derp/ is long gone and /draw/ is dead, but I think /pco/ still has a few artists.
>>417956 >What would plus4chan need to make it convenient enough Now that the site works, has a catalog, RSS, no CAPTCHA or Tor blocking, etc, I don't think convenience is a real issue at all (except for the fact that we are another separate website to visit, that can't be fixed). We just don't have many attractive features and we don't advertise much. If /co/ moderation is still as shit as it always was, it may be our best hope at getting traffic. This site is far more lenient than 4chan's /co/ and /aco/. >Should we have a "make-your-own-board" feature like 8chan? haha woah, I don't think that is a a good idea: 1) that's been done by many popular imageboards (and many websites) so it's not really a thing that would bring traffic to us 2) any extra boards made would just further fragment our small userbase and be unlikely to introduce more people 3) that is NOT an easy feature to implement, let alone manage and moderate
>>417957 1) the fact that other sites allow for it but we can't, is something that could be seen as a lack of features on our part. Also, people like to own stuff. They want their own tumblr/twitter blog, their own facebook page, their own discord chat, their own Instagram gallery, their own imageboard, etc. 8chan has so many small boards which are there only because one or two guys use it to post their own content.
2) this is a legit argument: we just don't have the user base for this. And it's my problem with 8chan too, some themes are split along a dozen boards and all with minimal to no traffic.
3) Not that difficult actually, but there are more important missing features to prioritize on right now.
Some interesting polls of Americans. While the commentary appears to hold a small bias towards one political party, there are some interesting results from both sides. Essentially the majority of respondents are dumb and hypocritical.
>>418174 We are doing fine, but there's just not too many people left.
It would be nice if you'd invite more people here, but I think most people just lolnope out of the site the first time they look at it, because 90% of people browse from phones and the site is very phone unfriendly.
>>418175 Glad it is going well, though sorry to hear it has been dwindling.
Back in 2017 when I stopped in it was pretty slow, not sure if it is worse than then yet though.
I still talk to a few /co/ and +/co/ people from back in the day. I can see if they are interested in posting here again but I don't know if they would. Image boards in general are just not what they used to be, which has the potential to be a good thing. I would love to have 07-08 style posting back.
>>418176 I think the people who characterized the '07-08 type posting are all older now and wouldn't post like that anymore, either because they are different people or because they don't have time. And the new generation grew up on twitter and discord and Instagram, what we had back in the day is just not anything special to them.
It's also the fact that comics in the 00s were living a huge renaissance. They went back from the 90s extreme era to the classic settings, and there was still a sense of continuity. /co/ was dropped in the middle of that... we actually discussed the good comics, the old stories that the then-current good comics built on, and it was actually interesting to see where they went, because they were still in the same continuity. It was all the classic stuff but in a modern presentation.
But more than anything, 07-08 style posting was great because everyone was chill. Because it used to be that /b/ was this huge outlet for aggression, so every other board is where you went to if you wanted to have more civil discussions. There was a reason why we used to say that "/co/ is love".
>>418178 I guess it is kind of naive of me to think we could ever go back. It is nice to dream though.
I never really thought about it but I guess Discord really has replaced chans in general. People can real time talk and post images to it, which was mainly how people treated most chans, there was just the anonymous element for those that liked it. Though I can never understand people that enjoy large Discord chats, there is just too much going on.
The state or cartoons and comics is really divided lately as well. I don't really go to 4chan anymore either but I have been back the last few months a couple times and it is all the same shit I see everywhere, people complaining about wokeness or lack of wokeness. I wish we could just talk about cool shit again.
I am sure I have aged out though and wouldn't really be able to keep up with being on image boards anymore. Maybe I will stick around and see how things go but I am sure this will end up just another nostalgia visit.
Not just discord, but twitter, tumblr, etc., all have the same function now (posting messages and pictures to others). They just have bigger mobile presence and advertisement, and they are free of the inherent vitriol associated with chans, made worse by the current trend of being politically correct. And they focus more on your stuff belonging to you instead of being anonymous, which works because all people have egos. Discord is blooming for the same reason too, everyone can make their *own* chat just by posting a link.
Imageboards are slowly dying not because of this, but because they failed to evolve. Other than ajax functions leveraging a json api, the only innovation was the make-your-own-board feature of 8chan. It's so stupid because if you look at it from a distance, it's just data, grouped differently. Enable user accounts (and the ability to list a users posts/threads only - admin panels on imageboards already have this), and add hashtags (and the ability to list a hashtags posts/threads only), and then only difference between an imageboard and Discord or Tumblr or Twitter is the front end template.
I suppose the difference at this point is money and time. Next to work and life, there's only so much free time people can invest in development. Big social media sites don't have that problem because they have paid developers.
No.418182 for the sake of the argument, I am VERY anonymous
The only thing that needs to happen for more people to come here is for many of said people to stop believing Discord and smartphones are the coolest thing ever. The advantages of Discord is that what you say and post is a mystery to the world (until someone inevitably leaks it). The advantage of an imageboard is that you can be anonymous, and your images and posts will eventually be deleted, to not "embarrass" your children in 30 years.
Which with plus4 being so slow I see there are threads that are not even in the archive from 4 years ago on a bunch of boards. It reminds me more of an old bbs.
Not to mention a slow board having general threads kind of kills it as well. What is the point of having a whole cartoon and comics board when the first thread on it is a general for ALL cartoons and comics?
Though I guess you do what you can when you have only a handful of people left.
>>418188 >Which with plus4 being so slow I see there are threads that are not even in the archive from 4 years ago on a bunch of boards.
I, uh, could you untangle that sentence for me please?
>What is the point of having a whole cartoon and comics board when the first thread on it is a general for ALL cartoons and comics?
plus4chan always had slower and bigger threads, because it was made at a time when 4chan had a bump limit of 100. It's just that things have changed - now, 4chan has slow and big threads. With plus4 being even slower now, I'd rather not encourage fast, small threads (as much as I long for those days), because it would start bumping off 4 years worth of content and there's no proper thread archival system.
>>418189 The point I was unable to make was, that an image board shouldn't really have 4 years worth of content on a board. I also really don't think their should an archive for anything other than projects maybe.
However, I do see your point with it being how things need to be with the smaller user base.
>>418195 I fully agree with that. And I wish we had that type of posting. But right now we wouldn't have the userbase for that. The site is in partial limbo due to several catch-22s affecting it, and this is one of them.
Unrelated to that, but I liked the old 4chanarchive system. A thread needed an amount of votes to be submitted, and then a moderator checked if it was worth archiving. It was only known by those who frequented 4chan, so you didn't have every moron archiving every one of his own threads. A lot of great threads got archived that way. It wasn't perfect, but neither is archiving everything like what 4chan does right now.
Palemoon is just getting better. Use it and Waterfox interchangeably, on a machine ancient in eyes of most people, only 8GB RAM and outdated CPU. Latest Palemoon build for the Maks consumes slightly over 5GB right now, and I have 2 YouTube tabs open (1 ten minute video paused), and the total # of tabs is about 40, over multiple windows. Gotta love them open source independent projects.
I am not at all surprised that you can get 5+GB with 40 tabs.
>>418416 Last time I visited (following a link) it had ads halfway down the page. Final straw for me. The only two things it is ok for (imo) are a couple of nice comfy generals and historical importance.
>>418432 That was used on shack in the boonies, not one of the most notable churches in one of the biggest cities of Europe. Using such a plane in a dense urban area may be prohibitive (it seems to fly really low), and there's no telling if it could do more damage than good.
>>418434 I use cock and it runs fine, could be worth considering protonmail or disroot but I can't vouch for them personally. One thing to watch for is in the past year or two I have had one sent mail go to junk/spam (cock domains are more easily abused by spammers)
>>418470 >>418471 I wonder what it would be like if 3DPD sites like Pornhub had the same autistic-grade tagging of e621.net or certain other boorus. Even just reliable sexuality tags like "gay male" for all homosexual men videos, or "-male" to remove straight videos and male homosexual videos.
>>418580 In order from most likely to least likely: he's either a rich asshole, a percentage of stuff he destroys is donated, has various sponsorships for additional income, or his videos really do make that much money.
>>418654 Apparently it's a discord raid but I just don't know. What I don't understand is, why is this even noteworthy? It used to happen every other day in the 00s, on nearly every board. And why even have the moderators trying to clean it up, the entire point of the board is that everything goes, and that includes spamming - just leave it as is, people will get bored of it eventually.
>>418662 When you have 240 posts making requests in a drawthread, and only 10 posts with art, then it can be tiresome to wade through all the reposts and find the new art. So the artist can link to the anchor post. Then you can just go through the pics linked to the anchor to see the new art only.
>>418665 Yeah, except you need to wade through some GDPR checks every other access, then you need an account, and then you can't browse it except from the dashboard, and RSS is broken so you can't even get a feed of new content.
I mean that blog might be worth following, but that's hard to do if it's on tumblr.
>>418706 I noticed that too at work. There are some tools to calibrate them, but I don't particularly give a shit anymore, since I can just copy the colour codes and it'll look the same as what the designer intended. And if you are designing stuff that needs this, just aim for the contrast or the general impression of the colours - their ratio and such will be the same on all devices, as long as they are not extremely miscalibrated to the point of missing entire colours.
The more funny thing was when I used to have a TN panel monitor at work. The designers sometimes gave designs with a subtle shade or shadow for some elements, which did not show up on the TN panel AT ALL. Some years later we finally got some new monitors which did not have this issue (either VA or IPS, don't know which).
So I put a watercooling loop (AIO) in my computer, hoping it would keep temperatures down for the summer, so my computer does not generate so much heat and blow it into the room.
Well it keeps some specific parts of the hardware inside cool... but now there's a 40C radiator emitting heat into my room (or into the case, depending on where I position it). Basically, the inside of the computer is an oven, but the gpu is kept at a nice 35C idle, 50C load - previous stock cooler was 45C idle, 80C load, but it pushed all heat out of the case itself.
The 10GbE network controller also creates a lot of heat.
>>418746 Pretty much, except without the magic. HTTP and HTTPS are different protocols. HTTPS is an extension of HTTP, the S literally stands for 'secure'. Your browser and the server software both already understand how to communicate with each other using the HTTPS protocol, so both will encrypt and decrypt messages. Some sites don't have HTTPS servers but most do by now, it's standard. Of course, it's not perfect magic. Lots of sites enable CloudFlare's reverse proxy, which means CloudFlare sees the unencrypted message, checks it and can choose to re-encrypt it. There are also various attacks on HTTPS. >t. has eavesdropped on HTTP traffic. It's piss easy.
>>418754 Not all sites have https enabled. You need a certificate installed on the server. But you can even get those free now - not sure how the free certificates are as far as security goes, but some encryption is always better than no encryption.
>>418755 >Not all sites have https enabled. You need a certificate installed on the server. Yeah, that's a more accurate explanation. >>418750 >Lots of sites enable CloudFlare's reverse proxy, which means CloudFlare sees the unencrypted message I should have mentioned: I'm reasonably sure +4 is doing this. Usually this is done so that CloudFlare (for example) can check for known suspicious activity and try to block it. If the message is encrypted, that really limits what information they are able to analyse.
>>418780 The admin knew it was going to happen all year and didn't bother to notify anyone only giving people 12 hours notice. The entire site was like 4-5 terabytes too, using a data scraper script people could easily make backups of the entire thing, but the servers couldn't handle it over a 12 hour period. I hate it when people get so full of themselves they act like whatever project they're in charge of needs to be destroyed the moment they aren't able to manage it anymore.
I have literally never seen a single piece of cheese pizza on that site in the decade I've been using it. Does anyone have any actual proof it was being used for that? Because there are tons of other sites that have and they're still around.
>>418790 And they eventually end up pushing some legislation in that vein, and it is 100% guaranteed to pass because not supporting it is a career suicide for every politician - and all politicians are career politicians.
>>418795 The only reason to upgrade to windows 10 is if you're using new hardware that isn't compatible with an older operating system. Even without any official microsoft support it won't change your overall experience. "But what about security updates!?!?" people will say. Well I went through the entirety of Windows7 without ever downloading a single update and I never got a virus. A virus doesn't spontaneously appear in your hard drive, you have to download it from some stupid attack site first. As long as you use adblock and stick with known websites and don't download stupid shit you'll be fine. If you want to be extra safe you can use noscript on firefox. It breaks every single website and you have to go through a long process figuring out exactly what you want to allow but its worth it.
But if you really do want to upgrade to windows 10 heres something you NEED TO KNOW. Get a decent solid state drive and at least 8 gigs of ram, windows 10 runs like 100 fucking processes at launch and a mechanical hard drive can barely keep up. Combined with forced updates the effects of "windows rot" hits a hell of a lot harder than any other OS out there. Microsoft is seemingly aware of how shitty it is and introduced a new "start fresh" feature to pseudo re-install windows without messing with everything else.
>>418796 >windows 10 runs like 100 fucking processes at launch and a mechanical hard drive can barely keep up
This is incorrect. What happens is that on old versions of Windows, most services were combined to a single service host task executable. By windows 10, the average computer had 4 cores minimum and buttloads of ram, so they set each service to use it's own, separate host task. It's why you have 60 or so svchost.exe's running in the background.
However the services still write to disk the same amount, so having more processes makes no difference speed wise. What it does make a difference in, is stability: when one service makes a fatal error and crashes its own host, you won't have 1/8th of all Windows services crashing at the same time.
And the "Start Fresh" feature was always there; it was just a feature on the installer disc.
As for an SSD, that one is a no brainer. I've been using once since almost a decade (9 and half years), and even the slow-ass models of that time made gigantic differences compared to standard HDDs. Every time someone brings me a slow laptop, I just put an SSD in it, and it gave me a reputation as a computer magician. Windows 7 would be equally slow with a HDD, that one is not a Windows 10 thing.
The "windows rot" is just you acquiring too much shit on your computer and user account over time. It's the same as when you switch to another browser; it'll be super fast because the one you regularly use has too much user info piled up, slowing it down. When IE9 came out, it felt bloody light speed to all the new users, Chrome feels super fast to long time Firefox users, Edge or Opera feels super fast to long time Chrome users etc etc etc. Just learn how to do regular maintenance and windows 10 isn't any worse than windows 7 or even windows Vista (if you knew how to configure it, Vista had zero issues after it got its first service pack).
>>418797 >As for an SSD, that one is a no brainer. Yeah but thousands of NEW systems are being released without an SSD. Combined with the endless windows updates and you have people complaining about not being able to use their computer for hours at a time. With a new SSD it takes seconds. People don't realize this so why are you so dismissive? People complaining about windows update freezing their computer forever spiked in popularity when 10 became the new standard. It wasn't an issue as big of an issue before.
>The "windows rot" is just you acquiring too much shit on your computer and user account over time. No its really fucking not that simple. Before they ended support on XP I tested it myself with an old system I had reformatted but never used afterwards as I had built a new system for Windows7. I let it download and update every single thing microsoft claimed I needed and when it was all finished the system took significantly longer to boot and was barely responsive when attempting to open folders. Every single update WILL slightly slow down your system bit by bit and people always shift the blame to every other thing EXCEPT microsoft. Yeah other programs do terrible things too, one third party browser toolbar and your system is crippled. But lets not pretend Microsoft is innocent in the matter.
>Just learn how to do regular maintenance and windows 10 isn't any worse than windows 7 or even windows Vista (if you knew how to configure it, Vista had zero issues after it got its first service pack).
In reality its way more complicated than that. Vista sucked dick because the average computer at the time could barely run the operating system by itself, let alone any other programs after that. I would see low end systems with as little as 512 megs of ram being advertised as "vista compatible". Microsoft was literally sued for false advertising when making up the minimum requirements for Vista. Windows 7 is basically a reskinned windows vista, but released later so the average computer at the time had better hardware.
>Yeah but thousands of NEW systems are being released without an SSD. HDDs are still cheaper per megabyte, and OEMs make more money off of selling cheaper crap at a higher mark up. That's all there is to it - people buying cheap machines.
>Combined with the endless windows updates and you have people complaining about not being able to use their computer for hours at a time. Windows updates only happen once a month, barring critical security issues. What really slows the computers down is a combination of data fragmentation, and morons installing everything at a whim which causes dozens of unnecessary applications running simultaneously.
>People complaining about windows update freezing their computer forever spiked in popularity when 10 became the new standard. It wasn't an issue as big of an issue before. This is not the fault of Windows 10 itself, but Microsoft kicking out all their experienced developers and replacing them with cheap Indian labour. If the current team was working on a Windows 7 service pack, that too would get hard drive nuking problems. But Win7 issues don't even make it to the media now, so it probably has it's share off issues, you just don't hear from it.
And don't forget that Windows is now getting major updates bi-yearly (well, only yearly now, they recently changed stances on that). Previously, service packs came out 2-3 years, unless something really needed it (Vista SP1). More updates + worse dev team = more frequent problems. But as long as you delay the platform updates, you should be fine.
>No its really fucking not that simple. Yes it is.
>Before they ended support on XP I tested it myself with an old system I had reformatted but never used afterwards as I had built a new system for Windows7. I let it download and update every single thing microsoft claimed I needed Okay, you are making several mistakes in your test case. One, you are using Windows XP, which received extremely major under-the-hood changes during lifetime, partially because it was so broken initially, and partially because it was in service for two to three times its intended lifespan. The original release of XP was only slightly more than Windows 2000, it could run on something like 64MB RAM with ease. After three service packs, it received a completely new management console, policy editors, a firewall, kernel support for several new modern hardware (USB 2.0 being a major example, but also Bluetooth, Firewire, better multi-core cpu support, NX bit support, IPv6...), they introduced the system file checker (sfc.exe) which verified the integrity of system files, there was the Microsoft antivirus, I forgot how many versions of .NET and Visual Basic runtime libraries, and eight years worth of monthly DirectX library updates. Windows XP, up to date, is a several times bigger OS than Windows XP, vanilla. It doesn't even use the same kernel! They had to change it to the Server 2003 one, after XP got 3 major worldwide infections in the summer of 2003.
The fragmentation caused by running so many updates alone would cause huge problems (nearly all of the system files have been rewritten), but you also have several extra tasks running post-update, plus a virus checker running a full background check.
An SSD alone would defeat a lot of those issues, though.
>Vista sucked dick because the average computer at the time could barely run the operating system by itself This is only a third of the truth, and it was only half of Microsofts problem. It is true that MS were too lenient with the Vista "compatible" badges. The bigger issue was that a lot of vendors simply did not release drivers for older hardware. Players as big as Nvidia were advertising DirectX 10 support on the 8800 card when they didn't have drivers ready yet. They did not support nForce3, leaving a large portion of people running top-of-the-line hardware with buggy or no Vista support (I ran into that myself, and met several people who couldn't update due to using that chipset). I'm fairly sure Nvidia got sued for one of those. Creative were left orphaned after hardware support got removed too (but to be fair, their drivers were already legendarily bad). I could also mention the lack of gameport support, but the X360 pad came out just then and it was brilliant, so they saved some face with that. Hardware acceleration of Aero was difficult to get working, again due to driver problems. The Vista installer itself bluescreened if you installed it on an nForce3 motherboard, once it got to the part where it measured your videocard performance.
The other major reasons were Vista having some major under-the-hood kinks which they could not iron out due to the expedited shipping; it was an ambitious project that had to be restarted from scratch, with clear goals in mind rather than a collection of experimental technologies. The competition was stealing too many of the ideas seen in the Vista "Longhorn" prototypes, and shipped them before Vista did, so they had to rush Vista. This resulted in more bugs. On release it had issues like file copying being unusable slow. The first service pack came out unusually fast to address so many issues.
And finally they introduced a new, necessary security concept, already familiar in Unix systems. The concept of separating user and system permissions. Before Vista, every application ran as an administrator by default, and very often they indeed did whatever they wanted on the system. Vista did not allow applications to access anything but the User space, unless the user specifically granted them permissions. This was known as the User Account Control, and it was a huge bane of many people because the Windows ecosystem was wholly unprepared for it. Vista was made a laughing stock due to asking if the user really wanted to do that for nearly every application.
>Windows 7 is basically a reskinned windows vista, but released later so the average computer at the time had better hardware. Windows 7 had a good kernel with all the major bugs ironed out of it right from the start. Hardware support became better as more legacy hardware was phased out either due to people normally upgrading, or by necessity due to Vista incompatibility. And the application ecosystem has gotten used to the new separation of user and system space, resulting in more modern programs not nagging users so often.
I'm not just parroting this either, these are all personal anecdotes, as I've had to deal with all of this. I still have my monthly updates from 2003 when XP ate itself in a month. I remember dual booting Vista when it first came out, for until a year when it was unnecessary anymore as it became stable enough. Had to switch out a nForce3 board to a VIA K8T800 one due to Nvidia fucking me over with lack of drivers - the XP drivers worked fine for a while, until I switched from a passive Geforce 7600 to a Radeon X1950 Pro, funnily enough. Windows 7 included an entire Windows XP VM for hardware compatibility reasons, and that was the only way I could use my scanner.
Compared to all of that shit, Windows 10 is infinitely easier to use. Just stay away from the bi-yearly platform updates, until they iron out the issues from it, and you are set. There are some apps like 7 Tray Tools and WinAero Tweaker which can make it more usable or work more like what you are used to with older Windows versions.
>A virus doesn't spontaneously appear in your hard drive, you have to download it from some stupid attack site first.  0days exist, especially useful for widely used, unmaintained OSs like XP and soon Win 7. They can pose as legitimate updates, for example. Or a drive-by download in your browser from a pwnt, previously-trusted website. Browsers are a very big target. If the writer/s of the hack are good enough, you won't even know you have a virus.
>>418818 I'm split: - 8ch has a few good communities among the trash and some helpful things I should have saved - 8ch is a cesspool with major issues and politics creeping into too many places for my taste - If I were to visit or post on 8ch, I would prefer not to have a MITM like Cloudflare involved. Fuck them. - Since Cloudflare dropped them, the site has been unavailable
>>418992 Because stardom makes their lives hell. They can't do as much as go down to the groceries without people flocking over them. Cults are a place where that doesn't matter, and it gives them a sense of belonging too, so when the join they feel a level of appretiation they do not feel elsewhere.
It is one place where they can go to and meet people without stardom being a problem.
That, or they are just scammers who know that people go to cults for that reason, and they try to take advantage of that.