/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>155989
Honestly in the current state, it would be easier to do a ms. /a/ like tournament in /e/ or /h/ than in the actual /a/ board.

>>156066
A ms. /h/ or /e/ was brought up a few times before actually, as the counterpart to /aco/.

>They are still trying to force it
It's never going to happen. Just like how /aco/ will never happen again. You all need to learn when to cut your losses and not try to get all tournaments banned

>>156203
I'd rather not even recognize it at all. The tourney proper didn't go down on 4chan or even here. I'd hope her chances in a "real" tourney later wouldn't actually be stumped because of the botched off-site one.

>>156207
I don't really pretend it's official, but you can basically just call her the (botched) Queen.

>>156172
Calm down, its chances are the same as ever. It's still possible to try it sometime in the next couple of years.

>>156207
She's not less legit of a winner than Kenshiro and Griffith.

>>156213
Those are intended and acknowledged side tourney winners. Suiseiseki won the ''''queeen of /a/.''''

>>156216
>intended and acknowledged
...by the people using the obscure 4chan offshoot they won on. Same as Suiseiseki.

>>156229
>…by the people using the obscure 4chan offshoot they won on
…as side tourneys. That’s the point. It’s not being considered “queen of /a/.”

Something that especially annoys me about that last attempt is I was actually willing to go along with it, up until the halfway new bracket thing, which basically just destroys the tourney format. I do not understand why the "I only take advice worth taking" OP was so insistent on that even after told by several anons it was retarded. And he continued to double down on it later, adding in two new characters in the fucking finals.

>>156234
What about Guts then? SaiGar 2007 was legit, it was completed, and it was all on 4chan.

>>156295
outdated

>>156295
That was 2007. Also I don't personally consider SaiGar a "king" tourney anyways. It was a gar tourney and allowed women to compete.

As I suggested on the other thread, how about giving Gus a judge role to honor it (Maybe Susiekiki too since Yotsuba is a judge by default) and incorporating some aspects from them into the trophy design

>>156300
Omen Guts

>>156301
Gomen Gomen Gatsu

>>156306
Temp only figured out Google Forms in his very last attempt in January 2023. That was why he couldn't get the 2021 one going.

>>156308
I dont think Temp was the one doing that queen of /a/ thing. He got over a hundred bans(!) before Ms. /co/ started.

>>156306
It was either a saboteur or a legit teen autist. Can't think of another reason for such dickheaded behavior.

>>156310
I mean in the realm of 'we've seen idiots before'. Not knowing Google Forms has come up prior.
Though this guy might somehow be worse

>>156310
What if it was NSA who did the /a/ tourney?

>>156327
I don't think they are that kind of retarded. I also don't think its any same guy that's been a nuisance in relation to tourneys. He was most likely underage

>>156328
Wasn't the suspicion the graphanon hijacker autist was him? His trip was found on /a/ before.

>>156338
You mean this? This is the trip from graphanon that I searched onto desu
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/tripcode/%21%21AQBjKTW5E%2Fc/
Aside from one post all the way back in 2018 from /a/, the posts are all from /co/. These, however, are the results I get from searching for the other moron's tripcode. The one that tried and failed running Queen of /a/.
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/tripcode/%21%21Ajh82El6IcS/
I don't think its the same guy.

>>156351
Give Guts a spot on the judge panel.

>>156351
For starters, maybe not host it as close to the other ones. If memory serves me right, the /co/ tournaments start around september-october, and the /v/ tournaments are around november-december. I was thinking somewhere around march-april for the /a/ tournaments, to give some distance to the other ones while avoiding The Newfag Summer

>>156355
I don't think barring Guts will go well with the majority of /a/ since SaiGar 2007 was done so far long ago and had a different ruleset from the modern King/Queen tourneys we're used to (females being allowed in 2007 for example).

>>156366
Good idea


Also I have a question since this tourney won't even be able to get off the ground until we get approval from the mods, who are the current moderators that frequent /a/ that we can ask?

>>156371
I mean even if you don't barr him, give him a judge spot regardless just to acknowledge that win.
If anyone asks how he can both compete and be a judge, the answer is simply "He's fucking Guts"

>>156371
>2024
>Still trying to contact mods
Why are /a/fags so braindead

>>156440
I can kinda see why Guts deserves to have a judge spot, but Suiseiseki not so much. We are in this predicament because of that shit tourney that she won and now we should try to legitimize it?

>>156915
That one was on 2chan. It’s still part of the lineage (SaiMoe inspired SaiGar, which alongside the Hunger Games threads that got shitcanned around that time inspired Ms. /co/ 2018 which sparked the current batch of tournaments), but it’s more like a side tournament as it’s not 4chan proper. Guts is the only 4chan proper winner pre-2018

Question. According to the wiki Saigar 2007 was completed and 2008 got to almost the Elite 8(though only 6 finalists were determined).

So, who were the E8 in 2007(rank them by how close the matches were since I doubt they did runoff) and who were the 6 confirmed and 4 potential Elite 8 in 2008?

Imagine if Guts ended up winning Husbando of /a/ Year 1 anyway completely rendering this moot.

>>157023
Firstly anon is talking about the recent Queen of /a/ botch. Not the original saimoe (I think Yotsuba won that). Secondly:
>It’s still part of the lineage
It isn't. There's a clear new lineage starting at 2018. There's nothing indicating ms. /co/ 2018 was ever inspired by saimoe or saigar or the original host was even aware of it existed. Again, this insistence on connecting a loosely qualified event over a decade prior under a different format and culture that's probably forgotten about or before the time of the vast majority of /a/ now is gay.

>>157029
I've heard people say it was cited as an inspiration in 2018, we briefly used the old Saimoe wiki as a transitional wiki, and SaiGar is the only pre-2018 tournament on the current wiki.

>>156440
>If anyone asks how he can both compete and be a judge, the answer is simply "He's fucking Guts"

This is still the simplest solution. Draw him wearing a SaiGar 2007 medal and put him on the judge panel next to the Boardtans and Year 1 winner.

>>157030
I've never heard of that and there's nothing in the archives about about hosts or OP's saying that. As someone who's followed tourneys since ms. 2018 saimoe/saigar has always been a non-entity. The wiki stuff doesn't really mean anything or that they're the same "lineage," just that they're 4chan tourneys someone decided to add. In fact the few times it was brought up here before it was kind of agreed they didn't have anything to do with newer tourneys.

>>157031
This. Honors it without actually effecting anything. Prior to someone bringing it up at the end of this year no one had mentioned the judges since 2021

>>157041
sure just so he can be banned from the tournaments

>>156351
Give the tournaments weeb titles to dodge the filters.
Emperor/Tennou of /a/ (/a/の天皇) for the male /a/ tournament, with Empress/Kougou of /a/ (/a/の皇后) for the female tournament.

>Still talking about bypassing filters to "host" this because you think you'll get by janny
Sincerly how would you feel if you got all tournaments banned for this and you personally be blaimed by hundreds on 4chan?

>>157081
I'd be proud.

>>156351
Husbando and Waifu

>>157082
Temp……..

>>157081
Didn't janny get banny because of the elrics dude making new threads every single time at bump limit instead of archive, and copycats that wanted to troll or derail the tournaments?
>>157082
Shut up fusefag

>>157093
sometimes I think that elrics guy is still among us.

>>157104
Jokes aside, if my memory dosen't fail, I think I saw him make a fake thread during this year's ms. /co/.

>>157105
No he didn't, that was an unrelated /a/fag who wanted to hijack the tournament.

>>157106
It PROBABLY wasn’t him. But if it was it wouldn’t surprise me.

So that's It, no more /a/ tourneys?

>>158306
>I'm 90% sure they're already WELL aware of tourney culture and of /tnt/, and view it as an off topic brigade.
I'm 90% sure most 4chan mods have no idea what the fuck /tnt/ is.

>>158306
/tnt/ doesn't run tournaments we discuss them

>>158313
Go away Temp, you're stinky

>>158290
Maybe one more try, maybe after the 8th year of /co/'s so I don't care as much if it gets everything banned. Actually planned of course and not in the hands of a dickhead like last time.

>>158324
>maybe after the 8th year of /co/'s
You people attach way too much arbitrary value to that number.

>>158347
Nooooo you see the 8th year is the last CANON year of the tournaments because it's called the Elite EIGHT/8. Everything after that is not going to be worth mentioning and is basically just a waste of time.

>>158347
Um chud? The only real tournaments are the half being NSA’s rigged tournaments, Peru Facebook’s rigged year and Cap’s rigged year

>>158349
True.

>>158349
>>158367
On planet retard that is.

>>158368
where do you think you are?

>>158369
Good point.

When would be a good time to hold an /a/ team tournament again?

>>165845
When the heat of that shit tourney dies down. I give it a year or 2 for it to happen.

>>165845
It could replace the time slot of heroes villains so maybe July? Assuming there's still interest.

>>165846
You're thinking of the wrong tourney. People were talking about a t/a/g team tournament held on /tnt/ before that shitshow.
>>165847
Sounds quite alright. It's also around vacation time so you could actually have people pull out their stops.

>>165848
Sorry, got confused. I'm still salty that the one attempt we had at a solo tourney at /a/ was botched at such enormous degrees that would make Temp and NSA have a run for their money. But I'm all for a t/a/g team tournament actually happening.

>>156203
>You're unlikely to get something for some time. But yeah, waiting a year before you even think about trying anything again is probably for the best. For now your one and only "winner" is Suiseiseki.
sucks the winner should have been some magical girl

>>173266
Suiseiseki would be a sensible inaugural winner considering her history on 4chan. The only magical girl on her par would maybe be Sailor Moon but I get the feeling she'd come across as too normie iconic to win an /a/ tourney, like a Mario or Mickey.

Nope. /a/ is not going to have another shitshow like that ever again.

>>173725
This aged really bad

>>214017
Did it? Tournament seems about dead in the water.

>>214020
People are slowly still nominating

>>155988
>Because of "certain events"
What happened?
>>155989
>/a/ moderators
I was once told by a mod that all mods are universal, meaning that there are no moderators for one specific board as every board shares every mod.

What prompted the Baki spergout?

>>214038
They're just displaying their muscles, don't mind them.

On the one hand this attempt seems terribly timed and unprepared, almost as if it were purposely chaotic. On the other hand the OP's acting more reasonable (so far) and is actually taking advice from Coayy. So who knows.

>>214054
Yeah I don't mind this guy so far. The timing should be better for next year but this is a test run so it's whatever.

>the mods still haven't stepped in
The hack must have really demoralized them.

>>214055
I think January/February would be a good permanent timeframe for /a/ tourneys, after /co/ and /v/

>>214057
The idea of mods being against a tournament was always bullshit

I'm worried that if this miraculously pads out then we'll be stuck with the current date, and hosting it any other month next year will be foreverally delitzed pruned like /aco/ was.

>This thread has been pruned or deleted
Welp.

>>214059
>>214064
>>214065
>this timing
lol.

I knew it was too good to be true. Got so excited when I read the /co/ afterparty and heard talk of this.

YUP YUP YUP
jannies really working overtime for their pay

One thing I've always felt pretty off with /a/ is that the moderation is really selective with what events they like to have. They have r/a/dio on holidays, /a/ sings, orchestr/a/ (though i'm not sure if they're around anymore), secret santa and a handful of others, but the moderation is always incredibly bitchy about anything new. It'll let the actual discussion on the board degrade like nobody's business but if you do anything fun and new in terms of events they'll shit themselves. Guess we'll see if OP makes another thread and it stays or not but this is probably it since he most likely did not talk to them.

If someone tries to do this on /tv/, study hard, and for the love of god tell no one. Drop it on some random ass day and pray to god nobody finds it for a while on here. That and promote the shit out of it on /tv/ itself, you can outbreed the autists

>>214073
Part of the problem might've been just how much blatant crossboarding and meta was going on the threads.

>>214076
The idea that "/tnt/ autists ruined the tournament" is pretty much just attached to a few of the smallest boards on the site. /a/ is big enough to archive a thread within an hour so it can garner a userbase through exposure even better than /co/.
The issue this time around is that the fucker didn't announce to the mods that he'd hold the tournament in the IRC, which didn't give him soft-whitelisting by them (though the question is still if they'd do that for /a/ or not because that's the board they're really touchy about)

>>214077
There's not really any more crossie and meta posting than on /v/ or /co/ in my opinion. Even someone like myself who hasn't used /tnt/ consistently in months only mentioned the other tourneys when shit like rule propositions were seriously considered.
The only real explanation is the mods being touchy, you didn't even have the baki spam in the thread to justify deletion.

>>214078
/a/ is just extra strict. But it's hard to say if you started /co/ and /v/ tourneys for the firt time today if they'd get banned too. They have the benefit of being yearly events that are contained to an expected timeframe now.

>>214077
This. It's way too fucking late to organically start fresh without being hijacked(see /aco/, /his/ and /an/). /v/ and /mlp/ got in early while these were still pretty segregated. The first /aco/ in 2021 was fine, but the latter ones all got heavily influenced by us.

The only option is to tell no one, drop it with no formal plan(because all that does is invite tourney autists) and try to get as many people from the actual board involved as quickly as possible. If someone ever tries on /tv/ I suggest doing that so it at least had a clean first year to start with.

May was always the better Pokegirl.

>>214082
this but i was NOT about to say that in that warzone of a thread

I think any /a/ tournament would have to frame itself as a revival of SaiGar(which is turning 20 years old soon) and intentionally distance itself from the /co/ and /v/ tournaments. The mods on /a/ really don't like /co/ stuff. So maybe in 2027 we try New-SaiGar and use that format..

If the debacle last year wasn't enough this confirms /a/ is a no-go. At least it is without careful direct mod approval.
The only big one left to try is /tv/ and I agree with
>>214076 try to mitigate crossboard faggotry as much as possible. it's inevitable at this point but those first few days being clean I feel are crucial.

>>214084
Would the mods even remember what that was?

>that guy trying to falseflag with Toph being "honary /a/"
The funny thing is that RWBY has more claim of being /a/ than Avatar.

This shit was literally conceived of on the fly in a Mr. /co/ all stars afterparty. I don't know why anyone thought it would go down better than the last attempt.

So what we've learned is
>This new guy is at least somewhat competent even if he's made a few missteps
>/a/ users are interested and interacting with the event
Just run it by the mods, I guess

I think the only remaining /a/ option is to abandon the usual format(which originates from /co/ 2018 let's be real) and instead frame it as a SaiGar revival for the 20th anniversary of it in January 2027. Maybe tweak it a bit to move faster, but something closer to World Cup than March Madness. Give Guts the trophy design and ban him, stick to that. That makes it genuine actual board culture and might scare off a lot of crossboarders. I know not everyone liked that format, but it's worth a shot.

>>214091
What about a female tourney tho.

>>214090
Pretty much the last step missing was running it by the mods. If they don't want it then there's no real case to go off of.

>>214091
Also it feels unfair to ban Guys for something from 20 years ago.

>>214091
How would any of this scare off crossboarders?

>>214092
We can do that second if the first one succeeds and we have a foot to stand on.
>>214094
It helps the actual legacy argument, think Ancient Olympics vs Modern Olympics. We're harkening back to old /a/ traditions from 20 years ago, that centuries in internet time. Look it's worth a shot if it's January 2027 and all else has failed ok?

>>214096
very carefully

Nobody try anything on /tv/ this year, this tourney season is crowded as hell and offboarding will be horrific, if you do try don't tell us please. (Also don't ban /co/ or /a/ stuff, it's allowed on /tv/ and banning it just to not cause trouble with /co/ is pretty much textbook "ignoring board culture" so don't do that, just focus on keeping tourneyheads away and unaware as long as possible. Actual /tv/ users will only let like 20 make it into the top 128 anyway)

>>214097
None of this would convince mods to give it a second chance, what you smoking?

>>214073
It makes sense considering /a/ mods are Draconian traditionalist. Old events are recognized board culture, new one's are an enchroachment. In this case it's semi-justified since it was formatted after other board tourneys and had a ton of crossboard posting. But the event in itself, a character tourney, is potentially a legit huge fun community event and should've been allowed.

I think the best bet is to take that idea of keeping it as a SaiGar revival and for whoever's seriously willing to host (or Balls/Coyayy/whoever helps) to bring it up to the mods and deny association with the other failed attempts

>>214101
>the entire reason I think our next attempt should take advantage of the anniversary and frame itself as a SaiGar revival
It's the safest option and we might only get one more chance

Who hosts the hyptohetical SaiGar attempt though? Mandingo guy is probably banned and doesn't seem to post here. Coayy and Balls have seemed interested in /a/ tourneys.

>>214104
>>214105
Our last chance died with Queen. Let it stay dead.

I actually did some math to calculate who the probable winner was in SaiGar 2008 based on the 10 remaining characters win rates and victory margins.

It was like 70% chance of Hosaka winning.

Anyone notice the Queen of /a/ guy coming back before the thread got pruned. Apparently he forgets why he did additional brackets.

Wait a year and do nothing, pitch it as a SaiGar revival for the 20th anniversary(say it will be a "one time thing" unless it does very well, in which case we "might" do a female version) and try for it in January 2027 on the 20th anniversary.

>>214109
the reason is because he's a faggot who doesn't know how to run a tournament

>>214110
Never going to work

>>214106
Both of them have talked about it before. Coayynon was even helping the host before the prune.
I'd recommend having at least one other volunteer /a/ native that isn't them though.

>>214114
If we ever get one of these off the ground we should gradually try to replace our hosting pool with actual board natives

>there's a misty thread on /a/ celebrating the tournament dying
HMMMMMMM

What would you do if it turned out this was the final straw and /v/ tournament threads get taken down when that starts

>>214117
>ends with the /co/ all stars tourneys
Not a terrible end to the tourneys.

>>214117
Finish the /v/ tournaments on here, do one last Tag Team and Co-Op, and then end this. No point in keeping it going if we're banned from all main boards.

>>214112
>be a poster on the board and actually know its culture
>don't be a spineless twit to the threads but also don't be a stubborn dick or completely silent
Find most hosts issues are going too far in one attitude or the other.

I can almost TASTE it. We are so close to doing the impossible and seeing the invisible. If only the /a/ moderation team wasn't full of people like https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283159469

>>214118
obeser

>>214122
/a/ really is the mythic hype of tourneys. /a/ tourneys are the oldest, most hyped, most obvious and glaringly missing addition and they just never can happen.

I haven't been keeping up with tournaments, is there another /a/ tournament disaster now?
Can someone greentext what's happening to me?

>>214125
>retard makes thread
>it gets deleted

>>214126
He actually made a second thread before it got deleted

>>214125
>mr. all stars afterparty
>few posts talking about how /a/ should have a tournament
>one guy decides to LEEROYYYY JEEENKIIINS it
>makes a few hiccups but first nomination thread goes surprisingly well other than some drama about misty being /v/ or /a/
>the tournament gets jannied in like 5 hours, only makes it to the second nominations thread

>>214114
I've been an /a/non for a long time. But my association in tourneys is mostly /co/.
Always looking for new volunteers by the way. There's been a handful of people stepping up over the years that fizzle out or are never heard from after initial messages.

Fuck it. Posting my nine anyway:
>Kiki
>Sakura
>Panty
>Stocking
>Lain
>Miria
>Jessie
>Madoka
>Homura

>>214117
every time people pretend the tournaments end because of some fuck up another tournament picks up the slack, it's always pretty much up to what board it's on

>>214125
From what I understand, i wasn't necessarily a disaster like last year's attempt; someone tried to make a tournament, the jannies said no. The thread got deleted, host got banned. There were some issues:
>the host copy-pasted /co/'s OP without modifying
>some linked /co/'s nomination sheet instead of the one he was supposed to be updating
>/a/fags vs crossboarders
>Misty got banned while other pokegirls were allowed
Aside from that, things were going fine until the janny decided to delete it.

>>214133
Yeah honestly those are minor issues
All this confirms is that /a/'s moderation doesn't like "new events" because they are very dead set on /a/ being old fashioned despite doing very little to moderate actual /a/ discussion to curb nonstop garbage shounenshit from taking over the catalog.

Honestly the crossboarding wasn't that bad after like the first hour. Might've been an overblown issue and at this point the only real problem is mod approval.

>>214137
I actually checked out Rozen Madien after their campaigning in heroes of /a/.
I liked Shinku more than Suiseiseki.

>>214073
More I see it is no different the the history of /co/ tournaments
They tried to remove those events from /a/ too. They eventually came on so long and with support that they eventually became fully approved. /co/ tournaments are a version of this where they tried to remove them but got approval to keep them around.
Thing is, it is too new that it cannot establish itself anymore without mods wanting to remove it immediately since established tournament culture is around. Too late to start new events or cultural customs there

this was the final nail in the coffin
I don't think it should be tried again

Misty's chances in queen after this?

>>214145
I'll support her.

>>214147
I won't.

Since we're on this I'm gonna revise my old ass opinion >>1597
Top 8 imo would look like
>1. Suiseseki
>2. Lain
>3. Yostuba
>4. Konata
>5. Rei/Asuka
>7. Osaka
>8. Haruhi
Yotsuba, Konata and the Eva girls would enter the Hank/Jack zone of being continual returner obvious powerhouses that just can't get retired.

>>214146
/a/ was basically the first and progenitor board of the site, it was just fused with /b/.

I firmly believe a magical girl has the best chance of the throne. Sakura and Homura ESPECIALLY imo.

>the Mistyfag is going on a rampage in All Stars
Christ…

>>214155
I'd hope not. Homura fucking sucks and Madoka is more popular.

>>214149
NTA but while we're at it here's my predictions for Emperor's E8:
>Guts/Griffith
>Light
>Yugi
>DIO
>Lelouch
>Asia
>Tetsuo
Also possible would be Kaiba, a DB rep, Kyubey, Spike, Edward, Koro-sensei, Bobobo, Alucard, and Lupin.

>>214170
I'd add Kamina but that's about right.

>>214149
Rei vs. Asuka would 100% be a hyped duck match that gets cucked every year out of happening lol.

This whole Misty situation got me thinking about how /v/ characters should be handled in an /a/ tournament. I think Misty should've been allowed.
>>214173
Would Goku vs Bejita be the male equivalent?

>>214175
I think banning Android 21 is what lead to that fateful decision.

>>214175
>Would Goku vs Bejita be the male equivalent?
I thunk that'd be Guts vs. Griffith. Goku and Bejita would be part of the /dbs/ gang that would be controversial every year.

>>214128
>>214133
Ah, wow, those are some odd mistakes but nothing that could have been fixed. i feel bad for the host who got banned. Is he here? Hopefully the bane wasn't permanent.
>>214135
>/a/'s moderation
I once talked to a mod on IRC once and she told me that there are no thread specific moderators, she told me that all mods are universial meaning that all mods are for every board, /a/, /co/, /v/, all of them, they're all the same people, meaning that they're all fine with tournaments for every board except /a/ for some reason.
Also, i once found out that jannies, while being board specific, are not specific to just one board as each janny chooses up to two different boards they want to be janitors of.

You'll get an /a/ tourney when King /v/ has its redemption arc. It's the last one left and when all tourneys are at peace when can open the gates.

>>214253
Right so we can expect /a/ tournaments in 2050+ when King literally can not vote for someone who isn’t a former E8 as a winner because the entire bracket will be made of former E8s.

>>214253
No, /co/, "redemption" isn't giving an E8 returner a pity win as a participation award.

>>214262
It worked for Daffy, Raven and Mado.

It’s funny to see how Mandingo Martin is despised on the main site for not putting Misty in while /tnt/ has been more forgiving. I would think it would be the other way around.

>>214286
He was a well meaning guy I think. Could've gone fine had mods not deleted it. Definitely better than the last /a/ host guy.

>>214289
So true Mandingo Martin.

>>214286
>>214289
Trip on.

>a new poopdickschizo schizo has been unlocked
>all over one Pokegirl hasn't been relevant since the early 2000s
Is this what people were paranoid about when the /a/ tourneys were first discussed?

The worst part is there was so much off-boarding it's impossible to tell what the actual /a/nons wanted. Were they the people who didn't want Misty for being a /v/ character or the ones who wanted her in anyway? Was it us being overly rulefaggy ala /co/ or us being overly loose ala /v/? We can't tell because we invited half the goddamn site.

There's plenty of great Pokemon anime girls
>Delia
>Jenny
>Joy
>Giselle if you're a real fandom OG
Hell there's also Blue/Green from the Manga who's pretty popular(not to be confused with Green/Blue who wouldn't be allowed in the male tournament as he's a game character)

>>214300
Ironically the first two went in with no problem

>>214304
Wasn't Misty's problem she's a game character? (And not just a one-off she's been in a shit load of games). Delia Ketchum and Ash are different from Red and his Mom, Jenny and Joy isn't in the games until Yellow, Giselle is an anime girl from one episode the old fandom loved. Blue/Green is a Manga original who only showed up in the games a couple years ago

Basically all of Ash's companions except for Tracy and Max are game originals. May and Dawn are literally just the female protagonists of their games and Iris is the fucking champion.

>Chinese and South Korean were allowed
Based

>>214305
I can see the logic in that. I can see some holes in it but I can at least see where he was coming from.

>>214307
Ne Zha was sent to the HTC in mr. so I guess that sort of settled where they went.

Just whitelist Misty, who cares? /co/ has Godzilla and Eggman. /v/ has Sam & Max and Geralt.

Wait, was there some retardation about Pokémon characters in that attempt?

>>214310
/co/ never had a whitelist anon.

>>214311
It was concerning Misty; Dawn got a pass in because her debut in the games and anime was the exact same day, something that was brought up in the thread.

>>214310
Is /a/ a whitelisting tournament (/v/ adds stuff all the time) or a non-whitelisting tournament (/co/ only has the 2018 grandfathered list and nothing new)? That was never established.

Under /co/ rules Misty would be excluded since she's the second gym leader in all Kanto games. Under /v/ rules she'd probably be whitelisted in. Whitelisting is an NSA invention so I don't want to expand it

>>214314
I was active in t he fandom at the time, the episode aired in the late afternoon while the game came out at midnight, Dawn was game first by like 16 hours(not to mention game started production way sooner). That's just bias, block them both.

>>214306
would you say sapphire is different enough from may?
i don't really have a strong opinion either way even though i like may, but that's a common enough subject i see on /vp/

The early anime has a lot of anime exclusive characters(Jenny, Joy, Delia) and there's plenty of Manga options (Yellow, Sapphire, Blue)

>>214317
Biased against what? People are acting like he had something personal against Misty.

>>214318
May Maple is May Maple and is banned, Sapphire from the Manga is fine.

>>214315
>Whitelisting is an NSA invention so I don't want to expand it
What logic is this? Whitelisting is a valid thing to do.

>>214299
I don't want to come off as simping but the dude was not as rigid in his rules as people were saying.
When people said that light novels and visual novels like Higurashi, Haruhi Suzumiya, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, etc should count he said that was fine.
When people brought up Thunderbolt Fantasy, he said it was allowed in.
Hell
>>214307
even certain Asian animation was allowed in.
It was just the one character that made all this happen.

>>214323
>you
Anon I'm not the host.

>>214325
You (plural), not you (You).

Have we ever drawn a line where Western Animation ends and Eastern Animation begins? Is Squirrel and Hedgehog from North Korea /a/? What about Vietnamese? Thai animation?

>>214323
Again, who is the one telling us this, an /a/ native or another crossboarder? The fact that the argument was carried all the way into mr. /co/'s final thread is even more eyebrow raising.

>>214326
We don't know if ever posted here either and given how there was no planning here, it's doubtful. Dude just popped up and said he was running a tourney.

>>214327
Most of the countries east of Russia barely animate at all and it wouldn't be an issue. That will literally never come up in a top 128. Europe is /co/, most of the rest of Asia doesn't animate. South Korea and China do and were confirmed to be eligable for /a/.

North Korea wasn't confirmed, but I assume if that Fox girl got in(only one with any chance) she'd be allowed. So both Koreas and China are lumped in with /a/.

>>214322
Says who? It was only ever used in the /v/ tournaments that NSA ran. Once she was gone, people voted it out.

Speaking of which, the /tv/ troll tried to force a whitelist to restrict /co/ characters and /tv/ immediately got ticked off at it and told him to fuck off. So we know they don't like that and the off-boarding was minimal enough we can probably trust it.

>>214332
I think they only hated it because he never bothered to explain it.

Let's just not do whitelists. /co/ grandfathered in a few weirdos who were lucky enough to get in Year 1 and that was that. Some guys like KRool almost did in 2018, failed to qualify, and are locked out forever. That's that. (probably a good thing in hindsight)

I was actually going to call bullshit on Korean being included but then I remembered Solo Leveling got an anime adaptation so that's a base covered.

Gardevoir would have been allowed if the idiot had nominated someone's specific Gardevoir instead of the entire species.

>zero downside outside of the format not matching the others and Gutsban
>multiple upsides including reducing the offboarding risk, making it more /a/ board culture tied, and making it way easier to sell to the mods as legitimate and valid and not tied to the failures
We should absolutely go with the "SaiGar 20th Anniversary" revival angle if and when we try /a/ again (ideally January 2027, gives a year of down time and that's the 20th for SaiGar). There's basically no downside and it reduces the risks and increases the chances of it succeeding in every way.

>>214373
Why can't this place get it through their thick skull that the board doesn't want a tournament? Do you think anyone besides tourneyheads still cares about SaiGAR?

>>214375
The board was actually pretty receptive to it and the host had some hiccups but wasn't a complete retard like last year's guy. The problem is just the jannies.

>>214375
Seemingly /a/ has willing anons, but unwilling jannies, and /tv/ has willing jannies, but unwilling anons.

I say seemingly because the /a/ thread was hyperaggressively crossboarded by 5 other places so it was hard to tell who was native and who wasn't, and the /tv/ thread died before the janitors could pick at it. But neither of them are happening anytime soon and we shouldn't poke the bear especially with our other problems

/a/ tournaments have basically become the tourney equivalent of communism: Surely it will work this time!

>>214384
Would that make Guts Karl Marx?

Mandingo Martin is doing a lot of samefagging and damage control itt.

>>214433
Give it up man

>>214728
Honestly, they should do like the /mlp/ one and make a preliminary thread before the nominations, talking about the tournament and how it should be structured.

You mean /mlp/ has a pre-nominations hype thread AND a 256 bracket?

>>214838
Different board different Jannie’s
Some are cool with the full decked out tournament package (/mlp/)
Some are fine with tournaments but they need to be very self contained to the direct tournament only and of a certain time limit (/co/)
Some are not fine with tournaments at all (/a/)

>>214842
The hack showed that not every board has a different set of jannies per se; several of the boards share the same mods. Like I distinctly remember /tv/ and /co/ have some overlap in staff.

Has anyone made a pastebin for an /a/ tournament ruleset?

>>215111
What'd be the point of that?

>>215139
so anyone who tries to host the tourney have a reference they can use, and avoid a repeat of the situation where the OP posts the miss /co/ pastebin
Personally i have one written, and i'd like suggestions. But i dont want to host alone
https://pastebin.com/Ueyrcwc5

>>215483
Thorough though I don’t think whitelist would be a thing given how anal /a/ could be.

>>215483
Again, best to let a board come up with its own standards.

>>215490
Listing Eggman from Sonic X is already suspect as it is.