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No.206239
Incognitymous ThreadAnonymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is the July calendar of Wilykit in color. Now to get back to coloring the current comic and/or sketching more pages of Pietro and Wanda. Also, I made some adjustment to Toph in the April calendar since I felt the hair was too small so I will be updating this in my Jab gallery.

Old thread can be found at >>205242, new thread here. I will dip into the old thread in a bit and post responses to the last comments made there as well as post a link to this thread. Of course I'll have to wait until this thread is visible so I'll try and keep an eye out.
No.206241
Anonymous
Wow, last time I got to post first in one of Incog's threads the USA belonged to Britain.
Here are your responses from the previous thread.
>>206240
No.206242
Anonymous
Replies:>>206267
>>206241
>Well that is how I have wanted to do it from the beginning. I kind of just wanted to do 3 line requests, 2 color requests and a single 2-4 page comic request.
Maybe you should give that another try.
No.206243
Anonymous
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Any change on doing Chole park?
No.206244
Anonymous
Replies:>>206249
>>206243

I wanted Ice Bear and Chloe i'd think it would be cute to have a scene after they got at the alligator exhibit she gets naked and she sees Ice Bear's dick and seys i don't think that's going to fit and Ice Bear seys Ice Bear will make it fit..i'm open to ideas...

i know i know this site banned that stuff but don't really have a choses if you pic the show We bare bears.. but you can post it on TJA if you do it of course but you probably won't..
No.206245
Anonymous
>>206239
I love that... I honestly don't know how it's called. Shoulders-skirt like thingy? Anyways, it looks cool!
No.206248
Anonymous
>>206246
great now i cant remove my dumbass comment
No.206249
Anonymous
Replies:>>206250
>>206243
>>206244
>>206246
>>206247

You know you can delete your own post and rewrite it adding whatever new stuff you want to instead of posting a new post, right? I'm saying this just for the sake of keeping the new thread from flooding.
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>>206249
vary sorry... yeah i know but it keeps saying incorrect password....
No.206251
Anonymous
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When you create a new post there's a + on the right panel. Click there and set a password. Your web browser will probably remember it from now on so that you don't have to do it again.
No.206252
Anonymous
>>206251
That i didn't know sorry...i will do that for now on..
No.206253
Anonymous
Hey Incog, here's hopefully you in one-two years.

https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan
No.206258
Anonymous
>>206243
ffs fund him chump. Where have you been, he does not, should not, work for free.
No.206259
Anonymous
>>206258
He seems to pick up some random ass request.
No.206260
Anonymous
>>206253
Holy shit. She gets all that twice a month?
Dammit, I should have learned how to draw
No.206261
Anonymous
Replies:>>206262
>>206253
Sakimichan has a massive wow-factor to their work though, of course s/he's succesful. Plus they draw adults, so the theme is basic and targets mainstreamers.
No.206262
Anonymous
>>206243
>>206261
Do loli artists typically do well on patreon?
No.206263
Anonymous
>>206239
Wooowwww Kit is a hot little mammasita!
No.206264
Anonymous
Incog, would it be possible for you to maybe close requests for the month if you do get say, 80 requests like >>206228 hypothesised, just so you can catch up on the workload, or do you feel that it runs the risk of people pulling out for the month, creating instability? To make it predictable, maybe have a limit of 20 requests a month, and publish a list of those you'll be doing based on first come-first serve. The transparency won't make those who happen to be rude and inconsiderate towards you stop acting in an entitled manner, but it may make the work bearable for you if you treat it like a schedule diary.
No.206266
Anonymous
>>206264
So 20 or so requests maybe more, depending on how many colored single-image multiple characters and colored comics you do, closed. Then have a 'Requests Open' announcement at the start of the month, or earlier if you smash through the workload early. That predictability makes it easy for you to track when those inconsistent pledgers will start funding you again allowing you to control your finances, rather than have no system. Also it will make the start of the month as exciting as when you start a new thread here with the loli club calendar girl of the month. Just a suggestion, would hate to see you overwhelmed with no system in place.
No.206267
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

So after a brief interruption I got the flats put down on the next page of the Star Wars parody. After getting that stage done I didn't feel like doing the rest so I felt like sketching my next $1 request. I still want to do at least one $1 request each month while I get caught up so figured I could get a head start on that. This was a request of Jazmine Dubois getting done from behind while someone grabbed her fluffy pigtails. Decided to make said someone Riley, and added Cindy because there was space to fill. Will finish coloring the current Star Wars page next and will add lines to this when I feel like taking another break from coloring that.

>>206241
>Wow, last time I got to post first in one of Incog's threads the USA belonged to Britain.

Wow, I've been doing this longer than I realized...

>>206242
>Maybe you should give that another try.

I plan on it, although I am still trying to catch up right now. Currently I am just doing 1-2 $1 requests then as much as I can finish as far as $5/$10 requests on my pending list.

>>206243
>Any change on doing Chole park?

Possibly in the future, but not likely right now.

>>206253
>Hey Incog, here's hopefully you in one-two years.
>
>https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan

Crikey...I've never even dreamed of making that kind of money. I wouldn't even know how to spend it. That really does make one reconsider pricing and rewards...

>>206258
>ffs fund him chump. Where have you been, he does not, should not, work for free.

Well I do on some random occasions, but not really all that often.

>>206262
>Do loli artists typically do well on patreon?

I wouldn't imagine they do all that well, especially considering the social stigma as well as the legality in most parts of the world. I could probably do better if I stuck with older characters, but that wouldn't be as fun. I have been thinking though how well I could do if I stuck with a system that was built exclusively around doing longer comics, not for financial reasons but because that is something I will likely want to do some day. They take much longer but comics really are what I enjoy doing.

>>206264
>Incog, would it be possible for you to maybe close requests for the month if you do get say, 80 requests like
>206228 hypothesised, just so you can catch up on the workload, or do you feel that it runs the risk of people pulling out for the month, creating instability?

Well I don't plan to do every request every month so the sheer quantity of requests wouldn't make much of a difference if I get back to a standard system of doing just a few a month. The only problem I feel comes with a large quantity of requests is a point I made previously about it really reducing the odds of someone having a request done, which would likely significantly reduce people's satisfaction. Having a 1/100 chance is much worse than having a 1/15 chance. Now that I am thinking about it more this reason is making me consider that keeping request pledges too low in value sort of makes them seem less worthwhile for potential patrons. After I finish up the current queue I will try and discuss how people currently feel about it and may work on gradually revising things a bit.
No.206268
Anonymous
Replies:>>206305
>>206239
This is absolutely lovely incog.
>>206267

Sweet my request. Been wanting to see you draw jazmine for a while and not let down. This is great.

>>206262
Loli EXCLUSIVE artists? I don't believe so. I've seen artists that do loli in addition to other things get up to 1k+. The key to making money on patreon is the same as making money as an artist in general. Monetizing. Incentivizing. Gaining a following. You have to want to make a lot of money.
No.206269
Anonymous
>>206267
>I could probably do better if I stuck with older characters, but that wouldn't be as fun.

Cartoon women are fine, but kids are far more interesting to see sexualised. In cartoon form of course. Good to see your artistic integrity intact and not sold out for dollars incog. In this era of censorship you're stronger than anyone realises. Stay strong and stay real.
No.206270
Anonymous
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>>206267
Haha wow glad you threw in Cindy. She is such a babe!
No.206271
Anonymous
>>206239
Summertime Kit is best Kit. And it's obvious your exclusivity in loli is part of the reason for normal people's reluctance to fund you. There's a paranoia where art forms of that nature are involved. You can't blame them for being afraid though, SJW's everywhere.
No.206276
Anonymous
>>206269
>In this era of censorship you're stronger than anyone realises.
Honestly, I'm super SJW-y/editing=/=censorship about 90% of the time? But yeah I agree there. Cartoony Loli/Shota stuff has been getting way worse rap than it really should be right now. You're a good guy, Incog.

>>206271
Oh, shush you. We got kinks too.
#sexpositivity
No.206284
Anonymous
We got Kit as our summer girl and Cindy fucking shit up. This will be a good thread.
No.206286
Anonymous
>>206267
>I have been thinking though how well I could do if I stuck with a system that was built exclusively around doing longer comics,

Speaking of which, have you seen Area's Star vs FoE comic >>206254? It's like 12 pages long so far and there has only been a brief dickgrab. Bets are we get sex by page 40.
No.206287
Anonymous
Replies:>>206305
>>206267
>Crikey...I've never even dreamed of making that kind of money. I wouldn't even know how to spend it.
You could go all Nicholas Cage and buy yourself a golden toilet. It's a good investment.
No.206294
Anonymous
>>206286
Can't believe Area doesn't sell his comics. Hes in a perfect situation for "free to patrons, 3-5 bucks to everyone else" comics. Could probably make a thousand bucks a comic easy.
No.206297
Anonymous
Replies:>>206305
>>206294
What Area does (I think, never talked to him) is hold his pictures and comics for a week or so in his Patreon page so that his patrons see it first, and then he makes it public. Although what he makes public is a 75% resolution of the original image on his patreon, to get more patrons of course.

I'm not saying that's wrong or miserable though, it's a strategy like any other.
No.206298
Anonymous
Replies:>>206305
>>206267
Hey Incog, now that there's this Area talk. He is very faithful to whatever show he draws and does some pretty decent colors (except fluids, that he doesn't do very good) Weren't you in the mood of doing a collab with another artist a few weeks ago? Send him a couple million PMs! I'm sure he'll be willing to do something.
No.206305
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Just finished coloring page 3 of the Star Wars parody. Will either do page 4 next, line the $1 request, or sketch the next $5 request.

Also, I have decided on how I will be changing the tiers around. I will be keeping with the $1, $5 and $10 request scheme, but I will be making some slight changes. I will specify in the $1 and $5 requests that they will be standalone images and no longer be comic pages, which is something I have already previously mentioned. Simply put that is what I made the request tiers to be initially anyway, I just got myself caught in a comic page kick.

$10 requests will still be the same, but as some people have been suggesting, colors take really long and should be separate. I plan to keep colors in the requests, but when I say 2-4 pages in the requests now, it will mean either a 2 page spread in full color, or up to 4 pages with just lines and maybe tones (I have to experiment more with that to see how it works).

I will likely set the guaranteed amount of requests just at 1 request per tier each month so that I have more time for other projects. I have so many comic ideas I would like to get to and the current setup is proving to hinder my ability to do these. This way $1 patrons can make a line request each month, $5 patrons can make a line and color request each month, and $10 patrons can make a line request, a color request and either a 2 page short color comic or 4 page no color comic. I feel doing it this way will clear me the time that I need.

All requests already made before I edit the pages to change things will be grandfathered in at the current setup. People with current $10 requests will still be able to point out their old request for up to 4 pages of full color, and people that have already pledged solely for a continuation to pages I have done in other tiers in previous months will still be able to point to those requests. However, I will suggest these people make a new request that will fall into the new scheme as they point out the older ones since I may not find myself time every month for a full grandfathered request and I don't want their sole request to be wasted on these months.

On top of this I will try and make a new tier soon for guaranteed requests. I will likely do so around the 15th of the month if I am to do so, just to have a couple weeks to discuss requirements with anyone. I was thinking of trying for the higher end suggested on pricing at $100 for up to 3 figures, full lines/colors with background, and doing about 4 a month. I would like to keep pricing lower, more around 50-75, but my time and financial situation really do not allow for it. Any less than a few hundred dollars a month and it really will not be worth the effort, and if I have to do around 10 requests to reach that then it will prove too much of a hindrance doing so around my job while trying to keep up with current projects. I'm still heavily debating this tier so there is still room for change/suggestions, which is why I am waiting until around the 15th before implementing. Plus by that time of the month I should know whether or not my situation will even require me to do something like this.

>>206268
>Sweet my request. Been wanting to see you draw jazmine for a while and not let down. This is great.

Yeah, that request appealed to me so I nabbed it. I've seen talk many times here so far asking for some Jazmine and I have barely ever touched up on her so figured I could give it a go.

>Loli EXCLUSIVE artists? I don't believe so. I've seen artists that do loli in addition to other things get up to 1k+. The key to making money on patreon is the same as making money as an artist in general. Monetizing. Incentivizing. Gaining a following. You have to want to make a lot of money.

Yeah, I agree on having to want to make a lot of money to make a lot of money doing things like this. Thing is, I don't really want a lot of money. I simply want enough to sustain myself and I want returns to be worth it.

>>206269
>Cartoon women are fine, but kids are far more interesting to see sexualised. In cartoon form of course. Good to see your artistic integrity intact and not sold out for dollars incog. In this era of censorship you're stronger than anyone realises. Stay strong and stay real.

They don't even really have to be kids for me, I just like a small, hard bodied frame. That is less common in animated adults, and it just so happens that they only give younger characters the fun, snappy attitudes. Even Gwen completely loses that aspect as they age her, making her far less interesting to me.

>>206270
>Haha wow glad you threw in Cindy. She is such a babe!

Yeah, I just felt she needed to be there.

>>206271
>Summertime Kit is best Kit. And it's obvious your exclusivity in loli is part of the reason for normal people's reluctance to fund you. There's a paranoia where art forms of that nature are involved. You can't blame them for being afraid though, SJW's everywhere.

Yeah, loli is illegal in some areas of the world so of course many people will not even be willing to consider it for that reason. Plus, yeah, SJWs. People feel the need to lash out way too hard at people that like things they do not fully endorse.

>>206286
>Speaking of which, have you seen Area's Star vs FoE comic >206254? It's like 12 pages long so far and there has only been a brief dickgrab. Bets are we get sex by page 40.

I've seen it from time to time while checking here on /pco/. Definitely a well done comic so far. My Pietro/Wanda comic likely has a few more pages before there is sexual interaction after their kiss so it may even reach around 10 pages before it gets there. I am perfectly fine with a story having buildup, although I doubt I would be reaching 40 pages in anything any time soon.

>>206287
>You could go all Nicholas Cage and buy yourself a golden toilet. It's a good investment.

I guess it's better than paying for a golden shower...

>>206294
>Can't believe Area doesn't sell his comics. Hes in a perfect situation for "free to patrons, 3-5 bucks to everyone else" comics. Could probably make a thousand bucks a comic easy.

I can see why someone wound or would not want to do that. I know I definitely do not want to add exclusivity to my stuff.

>>206297
>I'm not saying that's wrong or miserable though, it's a strategy like any other.

Agreed. I can fully see why someone would want to require people compensate them to view what they invest their time into. When someone wants to invest their time into something they have to be compensated in some way else they have to invest it elsewhere. Nothing in the world is free.

>>206298
>Weren't you in the mood of doing a collab with another artist a few weeks ago? Send him a couple million PMs! I'm sure he'll be willing to do something.

I have been still considering the collab thing, but for now I'm more invested into playing catch up.
No.206306
Anonymous
>>206305
Can you explain the grandfathering thing in very simple words? I'm not sure I got. Let's assume I had a $10 request posted. What do I have to do now in this current setting?
No.206307
Anonymous
>>206306
If you already a request it follows old rules. Only requests made after this goes live are affected by it.
>>206305
Are they wearing caps?
No.206310
Anonymous
>>206308
Caps? Toph has a diadem and the boys are wearing opened condoms (I'm sure that has another name though)
No.206312
Anonymous
>>206305
So... I'm guessing you're gonna launch the $5 Requests MK.II and the same for the $10 requests soon?
No.206313
Anonymous
>>206312
Maybe around the 15th when he implements the new policy? Or maybe not until he finishes the backlog he already has. Those 10 dollar requests will take a while, even if he sticks to 2-4 pages.
No.206317
Anonymous
>>206305
Hope the new tiers work out man. You deserve to make more than you do and I hope this helps you reach that point. I just hope 100 bucks isn't too pricey. But out of like 90 patrons, hopefully 4 of them can afford 100 bucks a month. I guess worst case you could drop it down a bit or add those lower tiers. Figure out what works best for you. I hope it all works out man.
No.206319
Anonymous
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>>206317
Limited slot, dude. Gotta fight for that guaranteed picture.
No.206320
Anonymous
Replies:>>206322
>>206305
I've to say that Toph's control panel is pretty neat! I'd love to press all those buttons.
No.206321
Anonymous
>>206305
>I was thinking of trying for the higher end suggested on pricing at $100 for up to 3 figures, full lines/colors with background, and doing about 4 a month. I would like to keep pricing lower, more around 50-75, but my time and financial situation really do not allow for it.

Incog... Just do it. Go for gold. Implement it. 4 big ones at 100 a pop. Make everyone clamor for it. Try these pricing systems for 6 months, you'll know if they're working. Just no sudden changes once Gwen makes it official or it might backfire.
No.206322
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the colors for page 4 of the Star Wars parody. Just 3 more to go and this will be done. Will either do page 5 next or line/sketch another piece in my queue.

>>206306
>Can you explain the grandfathering thing in very simple words? I'm not sure I got. Let's assume I had a $10 request posted. What do I have to do now in this current setting?

As someone else stated, pretty much nothing has to be done if you already have a request posted. Whenever I make a new request post you can just point me to the old request that you made and it will follow the rules that were in place when you made it. This way I am not further restricting people that have already been supporting me but that I have not been able to get to requests for.

>>206308
>Are they wearing caps?

Not sure what is meant by that question. They are wearing condoms with the tips cut off if that is what you mean.

>>206312
>So... I'm guessing you're gonna launch the $5 Requests MK.II and the same for the $10 requests soon?

Not sure exactly when I will do that. I will probably just revise the current request posts and date when the changes are made for future reference. I will make the new request topics when I am done with my current queue.

>>206317
>Hope the new tiers work out man. You deserve to make more than you do and I hope this helps you reach that point. I just hope 100 bucks isn't too pricey. But out of like 90 patrons, hopefully 4 of them can afford 100 bucks a month. I guess worst case you could drop it down a bit or add those lower tiers. Figure out what works best for you. I hope it all works out man.

Thanks. I hope it works out as well. Hopefully I do not have to do it at all, but even if I don't have to do it now I am sure there is something I will try and do in the very near future to increase profit. I simply want to be able to invest more time into drawing, but the only thing I can really do to ensure that is make enough money from doing so that I don't have to spend time elsewhere. If 100 bucks ends up being too pricey in that I don't get any pledges, maybe I can try to do some lower amounts but with less to them so I can knock out more.

>>206319
>Limited slot, dude. Gotta fight for that guaranteed picture.

Pretty much, but I will likely discuss with my current patrons first to see which would be interested in a slot. If they are interested I will likely be giving priority to patrons, and if too many patrons are interested, which I don't think will be the case, I will be giving priority to those who have pledged the most. I feel that would be the only real fair way to do it.

>>206320
>I've to say that Toph's control panel is pretty neat! I'd love to press all those buttons.

I'd love to press a lot of things on Toph.
No.206323
Anonymous
>>206322

I know you hate doing sweatdrops... but they look amazing.
No.206324
Anonymous
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>>206322
>I'd love to press a lot of things on Toph.
Me too
No.206325
Anonymous
Curious Incog, are any of your patrons backing you and asking for nothing in return, ie: just funding you to keep you in the game with no requests in mind? Or are all your 90 sponsors each waiting on a request? I would have my faith in humanity restored if there were fans donating to you just to keep you doing what you love.
No.206326
Anonymous
Replies:>>206377
Might have to work out a reply system too. Clearly responding to many of us every day is taking up your time, and your time is precious now. Not that I appreciate you talking to us like old friends :)
No.206330
Anonymous
Replies:>>206331
>>206325
Well, Incog has a total of 10 requests in the $1 tier but 54 patreons with that pledge, if that serves as an answer.
No.206331
Anonymous
>>206330
Wow, those are some true fans. So not everyone wants a request after all.
No.206332
Anonymous
>>206322
Cosplay porn is ridiculous but this is kinky as hell, as sexy as the twist. For some reason the idea of children making sex tapes with high production values has me drooling and harder than I've ever been. Oh, and Gwen's easy on the eyes too.
No.206333
Anonymous
>>206322
I serious love the panelling. Have a look at how in both Ben and Gwen's close up of their faces the background is their theme color.
No.206334
Anonymous
Replies:>>206377
>>206322
>If 100 bucks ends up being too pricey in that I don't get any pledges, maybe I can try to do some lower amounts but with less to them so I can knock out more.
I think as long as you are willing to be flexible and adjust things as needed you should be fine. Plenty of people want to support you incog. Just got to find the right balance of support to reward for people that need that extra push.
No.206335
Anonymous
Replies:>>206336
Incog consider using Gwen in a banner on your patreon page as a way to catch the attention of people passing through. An eye-catching graphic might engage Incog-newbs and generate interest.
No.206336
Anonymous
Replies:>>206337
>>206335
Thats iffy. Might attract the wrong attention as well.
No.206337
Anonymous
Replies:>>206340
>>206336
I've seen some pretty questionable images on patreon pages :-/
No.206340
Anonymous
Replies:>>206343
>>206337
Just because some are safe forcing the rules doesn't mean that everyone is.
No.206343
Anonymous
Replies:>>206360
>>206340
Hey Incog how about a Gwen doodle for this 4th of July?
No.206345
Anonymous
Replies:>>206351
Seriously.... NOBODY noticed his Golden Shower comment?
No.206351
Anonymous
Replies:>>206359
>>206345
I didn't, would you quote it?
No.206355
Anonymous
>>206322
I miss the froce.
No.206356
Anonymous
@incog: Have you thought maybe setting up the patreon rewards like borntodie? Check out that patreon if you haven't already
No.206359
Anonymous
>>206351
>Random anon: You could go all Nicholas Cage and buy yourself a golden toilet. It's a good investment.
>Incog: I guess it's better than paying for a golden shower..

But incog, what if someone requested, say, Gwen peeing on Ben's cock and making him orgasm at one of your $100 slots. Would he then be paying you for a golden shower =P
No.206360
Anonymous
Replies:>>206365
>>206343
Gwen in an American flag bikini please, oh god. For liberty and justice incog!
No.206362
Anonymous
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>>206322
Sounds like you've got your business model ready for a test run. Great. Keep us informed on how busy you are please. Absolutely do not want you swamped with an unhealthy workload. Don't hesitate to communicate the status of your work-life balance with us if you can, and know we are here to help.
No.206363
Anonymous
Replies:>>206377
>>206305
>I was thinking of trying for the higher end suggested on pricing at $100 for up to 3 figures, full lines/colors with background, and doing about 4 a month. I would like to keep pricing lower... but my time and financial situation really do not allow for it. Any less than a few hundred dollars a month and it really will not be worth the effort. If I have to do around 10 requests to reach that then it will prove too much of a hindrance doing so around my job while trying to keep up with current projects. I'm still heavily debating this tier so there is still room for change/suggestions, which is why I am waiting until around the 15th before implementing. Plus by that time of the month I should know whether or not my situation will even require me to do something like this.

Just do it. It's time you did. Stop worrying. Your work is that good.

>>206322
>Hopefully I do not have to do it at all, but even if I don't have to do it now I am sure there is something I will try and do in the very near future to increase profit. I simply want to be able to invest more time into drawing, but the only thing I can really do to ensure that is make enough money from doing so that I don't have to spend time elsewhere. If 100 bucks ends up being too pricey in that I don't get any pledges, maybe I can try to do some lower amounts but with less to them so I can knock out more.

Stop selling yourself short. Your work is poetry and well worth it. Remember that.
No.206364
Anonymous
>>206359
I'm the guy who wrote the golden toilet thing and I wasn't referring to golden shower. Nicolas Cage DOES have a golden toilet and he went broke for some time because of that.
No.206365
Anonymous
>>206360
D-damn this sounds about right. I would be very patriot for her.

>>206364
Yeah I understood this too and not the golden shower fetish. Even Incog have told this is a thing he isn't into and not feeling like doing it in first place.
No.206367
Anonymous
You now Incog, I think for now you could close current request threads on Patreon, then when you will have time do requests in them (but 1$ and 5$ would be just pic, not comic page), and after that you could open new threads for new request with all new rules.
For now there is enough requests, and it for sure take some time to make them, and maybe in that time some new ideas come to you also.

Or if you want requests to be available, you can still close old theards, and open new with new rules, but you could say that you take care new theards when you done with old.
No.206368
Anonymous
Replies:>>206377
>>206367
What I think is that incog should launch the MK.II of both the $5 and the $10 request nows so that the work isn't piled up.
No.206369
Anonymous
>>206356
Jeez, that guy should work on his grammar. The lack of capital letters on his pledge levels totally killed it for me, I mean, if he puts so little effort in writing that which is like the front page of his patreon, how much effort is he gonna put for his patrons?

>>206359
I don't think incog did a golden shower reference there. It was just an humorous remark. Just as if I say "Shit, face-lift operations are so expensive it's worth killing the surjeon instead" but you won't see me killing people out there.
No.206371
Anonymous
Replies:>>206372
>>206369
>It was just an humorous remark. Just as if I say "Shit, face-lift operations are so expensive it's worth killing the surjeon instead" but you won't see me killing people out there.

That's not particularly humorous... I'm not sure it even makes any sense.

Now if you said, "Shit, face-lift operations are so expensive these days you're better off just killing everyone who says you need one," it'd be a little better because there'd be some kind of logic to why you're doing the killing.
No.206372
Anonymous
Replies:>>206384
>>206371
Hmm... But what I tried to say is that the receipt of a body altering operation is so high that it would be better to kill the surgeon than to pay him afterwards.
It's pretty much a literal translation from a local idiom
No.206377
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Finally finished the colors for page 5. So much going on in this page that it took long as hell to color. Just 2 more pages to go. Depending how I feel when I next have time I may take a few days from coloring this to work on other things. Tomorrow and likely the day after will be a bit busy taking care of things I could not take care of today due to the holiday but I will try and have something to post.

>>206324
>I know you hate doing sweatdrops... but they look amazing.

It's not that I hate doing them it's just that they get a bit tedious. It would probably be easier to do them if I stop adding them in the line layer since it adds extra steps to getting them the way I do them. That or I should just put them on their own layer so I can turn them off to do them the color way. I'll have to start thinking about that some more.

>>206325
>Curious Incog, are any of your patrons backing you and asking for nothing in return, ie: just funding you to keep you in the game with no requests in mind? Or are all your 90 sponsors each waiting on a request? I would have my faith in humanity restored if there were fans donating to you just to keep you doing what you love.

Yeah, I have quite a few of them funding me just to fund me, which I really appreciate.

>>206326
>Might have to work out a reply system too. Clearly responding to many of us every day is taking up your time, and your time is precious now. Not that I appreciate you talking to us like old friends :)

Yeah, I should probably just start replying to people that are specifically directing questions/concerns my way or that are giving a critique that I should give attention to.

>>206334
>I think as long as you are willing to be flexible and adjust things as needed you should be fine. Plenty of people want to support you incog. Just got to find the right balance of support to reward for people that need that extra push.

I hope so. I would like to add some flexibility in requests, such as add some sketch/line guaranteed requests that are cheaper but I don't want to accidentally put too much on my plate, especially since I still have a lot I want to get to plus I have a lot going on this month.

>>206356
>@incog: Have you thought maybe setting up the patreon rewards like borntodie? Check out that patreon if you haven't already

Well I took a look and it appears at first glance that he keeps some things exclusive to patrons, which is something I would like to avoid. I see his different tiers of guaranteed drawing slots though and could maybe do something like it some time in the future.

>>206359
>But incog, what if someone requested, say, Gwen peeing on Ben's cock and making him orgasm at one of your $100 slots. Would he then be paying you for a golden shower =P

Well I will be adding restrictions of things I would not like to draw and peeing just so happens to be one of those things so there will be no golden shower transactions that way.

>>206362
>Sounds like you've got your business model ready for a test run. Great. Keep us informed on how busy you are please. Absolutely do not want you swamped with an unhealthy workload. Don't hesitate to communicate the status of your work-life balance with us if you can, and know we are here to help.

Thanks. I'll be giving it a test run soon. I am thinking end of this week I may start setting things up on my Patreon to reflect the changes. I just have a lot going on throughout the week that I will likely be using any time I could have to do so to draw.

>>206363
>Stop selling yourself short. Your work is poetry and well worth it. Remember that.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I've always worked a lot for a low income so price tags like $100 just seem like a lot to me.

>>206364
>I'm the guy who wrote the golden toilet thing and I wasn't referring to golden shower. Nicolas Cage DOES have a golden toilet and he went broke for some time because of that.

We're aware. They were just responding to my response about how purchasing a golden toilet is better than purchasing a golden shower.

>>206367
>You now Incog, I think for now you could close current request threads on Patreon, then when you will have time do requests in them (but 1$ and 5$ would be just pic, not comic page), and after that you could open new threads for new request with all new rules.

Yeah, I should get around to that so that I can do a request from each tier each month and then spend the rest of my time catching up on my current queue of the pieces that I promised I would do.

>>206368
>What I think is that incog should launch the MK.II of both the $5 and the $10 request nows so that the work isn't piled up.

Agreed. I'll launch them ASAP.

>>206369
>Jeez, that guy should work on his grammar. The lack of capital letters on his pledge levels totally killed it for me, I mean, if he puts so little effort in writing that which is like the front page of his patreon, how much effort is he gonna put for his patrons?

Hey, doctors usually put in a lot of work and they generally don't know how to write.

>>206369
>I don't think incog did a golden shower reference there. It was just an humorous remark.

This. I was just using the term to relate to another item within a restroom that could be gold but that has a different meaning as well. Nothing serious going on there.
No.206378
Anonymous
Replies:>>206412
>>206377
Toph's face in the 4th panel and Gwen's in the third are priceless!

But
>Hey, doctors usually put in a lot of work and they generally don't know how to write.
Well, they write like... 200, 300 prescriptions a day. Of course they rush their writing, I can tell since my parents work in an hospital. However, a creator's main page is the first thing a potential patreon sees and each creator should give special attention to small things like grammar and make sure they're giving a good image.

I see it as making a cake. It doesn't matter how good it tastes if it isn't appealing to the eye.
No.206379
Anonymous
Incog do you take Shotacon requests?
No.206381
Anonymous
>>206377
Ahegao Gwen fuck yeah!
No.206382
Anonymous
Replies:>>206383
>>206379

Serious? Half of what he does has shotacon.
No.206383
Anonymous
Replies:>>206389
>>206382
Its always straight shota, though. Always a pussy in sight.
Shotacon usually means just the boy or more than one.
No.206384
Anonymous
Replies:>>206388
>>206372
Ah, that makes sense, it's translated. The problem is that in that context, in English, "instead" tends to point to "instead of having plastic surgery" rather than "instead of paying the bill," unless you specifically tack on instead of paying the bill" at the end, or word it slightly differently from the outset. Like "Shit, the bill for plastic surgery is so high, it's worth just killing the surgeon afterwards," or
No.206388
Anonymous
>>206384
Thanks for clearing it out. That's the kind of stuff it's never taught in the text books.
No.206389
Anonymous
Replies:>>206412
>>206383
I don't think incog is interested in yaoi, if that is what is being asked.
No.206390
Anonymous
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Incog let's do a quick test!
In this awesometer, how are you feeling on the following topics?


1) Time dedicated to drawing.
2) Time dedicated to answering people here.
3) Your current Patreon earnings.
4) Feedback from your fans.
No.206391
Anonymous
Replies:>>206412
>>206390
>2) Time dedicated to answering people here.
I'm actually curious about how long does he take to do that. His posts are huge but replying everyone is something I love of Incog.
No.206397
Anonymous
Replies:>>206398
>Wiley Kit for July
YES
>Not in a skimpy stars and stripes outfit
... well you can't have everything I guess
No.206398
Anonymous
Replies:>>206412
>>206397
He already stated he's going with seasonal outfits not for a holiday theme
No.206400
Anonymous
Replies:>>206412
>>206377
I think you should change the

"Currently, you will have my eternal gratitude. You read that right. My gratitude is eternal. Eventually, as I figure out the workings of Patreon, I will offer more interaction with my patrons to allow more input in what I create."

thing in your pledge levels and say what each level allows to every patron.
No.206412
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at http://www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for the $1 Boondocks request. Was very busy today but barely finished it in the time frame that I wanted (minutes before the 6th). Will hopefully have another update tomorrow.

>>206378
>Well, they write like... 200, 300 prescriptions a day. Of course they rush their writing, I can tell since my parents work in an hospital. However, a creator's main page is the first thing a potential patreon sees and each creator should give special attention to small things like grammar and make sure they're giving a good image.
>
>I see it as making a cake. It doesn't matter how good it tastes if it isn't appealing to the eye.

Doesn't change the fact that thousands of people die in the US every year directly as a result of their writing. I feel it's a little more important they write legibly than a Patreon page having perfect grammar. Regardless, looking at that person's Pixiv it appears that Japanese may be their primary language so they may have very well put in quite a bit of effort just posting that Patreon page as is.

>>206379
>Incog do you take Shotacon requests?

If you mean with just boys...not really a thing I am into. I may very well be willing to bend some rules in that regard if I post guaranteed slots, since I'm not as against it as I am things like urine/feces/gore, but even for any kind of rule bending I'd probably still require that a girl be involved in some way. I'll think more about it as the time comes.

>>206389
>I don't think incog is interested in yaoi, if that is what is being asked.

Pretty much this. Not something I am appalled with, but something I'm not all that into.

>>206390
>Incog let's do a quick test!
>In this awesometer, how are you feeling on the following topics?
>
>
>1) Time dedicated to drawing.

I'd say the last couple months the time I could dedicate has been good, but it has been at the expense of putting other things I need to get to at ugly.

>2) Time dedicated to answering people here.

I'd say it's great for that. I don't mind the time responding, although I wouldn't say awesome since sometimes after I finish I look at the time and realize how much time I just spent. That only really happens on the long rants though where I type up multiple posts worth of rant.

>3) Your current Patreon earnings.

I'd have to put that at great as well. Awesome would be if I could quit my job, but anything else is great since I do not use a pay wall nor do I have any guaranteed pledges posted in acknowledgement that the stability of my situation in real life is quite flimsy. I really appreciate that people are willing to support even if I do not guarantee the stability of any kind of rewards.

>4) Feedback from your fans.

Feedback has been awesome thus far...although sometimes it fills me with a brief period of rage when mistakes are pointed out to me (not really, but I will always act as such).

>>206391
>I'm actually curious about how long does he take to do that. His posts are huge but replying everyone is something I love of Incog.

Usually just about 15-20 minutes, although on the rare occasions where I rant it can go on for an hour+.

>>206398
>He already stated he's going with seasonal outfits not for a holiday theme

This. I considered putting some red/white/blue in the piece, but I didn't feel those colors would really work on Kit without making it a blatant 4th of July holiday outfit.

>>206400
>I think you should change the
>
>"Currently, you will have my eternal gratitude. You read that right. My gratitude is eternal. Eventually, as I figure out the workings of Patreon, I will offer more interaction with my patrons to allow more input in what I create."
>
>thing in your pledge levels and say what each level allows to every patron.

Yeah, I do want to get around to that, but I want to wait until I assess my situation in a week or so. Things could take a huge turn for the worse or get substantially better for me within the next 9 days. I've been holding back on setting concrete pledge rewards until I know for a fact that I can keep up with whatever I set up without such a heavy risk of life interfering too much.
No.206414
Anonymous
>>206412
>Things could take a huge turn for the worse or get substantially better for me within the next 9 days.
Don't forget to keep us posted!
No.206415
Anonymous
Replies:>>206480
>>206412
>Doesn't change the fact that thousands of people die in the US every year directly as a result of their writing.
Huh... touchy topic. I'll throw healthcare into the "Stuff better off not mentioned here" basket.
No.206416
Anonymous
Well here is hoping it goes for the best.
No.206417
Anonymous
Replies:>>206480
>>206412
>Incog let's do a quick test!
So... all in all I take you're cool but would prefer having more time for drawing.
No.206419
Anonymous
Replies:>>206480
>>206412
That pick came out fucking great. Thanks so much Incog. You really know how to do a cute Jazmine. Probably going to have to request her more in the future.
No.206420
Anonymous
>>206412
I like the interactions with her hair. I'm not sure what's Cindi is doing there though.
No.206434
Anonymous
>>206420
Cindy is there to give everyone boners
No.206437
Anonymous
>>206434
I'm pretty sure she's there to have a closer look.
No.206440
Anonymous
Replies:>>206443
>>206434
No, I meant that I'm not sure if she's just staring or doing something with her other hand.
No.206443
Anonymous
>>206440
That's up to the viewer's imagination. I like to think she's doing some balls squeeze
No.206445
Anonymous
>>206412
Let's continue with the trivia questions to chillax from all the bad feels.
From these four shows that I guess you've seen, in which order do you like them most?

Ben 10 (Original series).
Avatar (Aang's story, not Korra's).
Inspector Gadget.
Jackie Chan adventures.
No.206447
Anonymous
Replies:>>206449
>>206445
1.Ben10
2.Avatar
3.Jackie Adventures
4.Inspector Gadget
No.206448
Anonymous
Replies:>>206449
>>206445
1. Avatar. One of the best series ever with the best plot and character development
2. Jackie Adventure. Love the animation style and the demons and Oni masks arcs
3. Ben 10. Gwen is the best of the show.
4. Inspector Gadget.
No.206449
Anonymous
Replies:>>206450
>>206447
>>206448
I was asking Incog but...
>1. Avatar. One of the best series ever with the best plot and character development
Damn, I can't help but agree so much, although there are a few weak chapters in the last season when they travel to the Fire Nation.
No.206450
Anonymous
>>206449
Sorry, I thought you were asking everyone. Anyways, the chararcter development in the series is what I like the most, there is no other series with such character development. Zuko is the best example, he has a journey of self-discovery through the seasons, and you can see him growing and maturing, I remember when Iroh told him "It's time for you to look *inward* and begin asking yourself the big questions. Who are you and what do *you* want?" Wow, that was so insightful (btw, Iroh is my favorite charater), it was so wise, I just love the show.
No.206451
Anonymous
>>206450
>Sorry, I thought you were asking everyone.
It doesn't matter, it's a discussion thread after all.

I also loved the badass-hippie look Iroh had. He spent most the day making tea, but he singlehandedly escaped prison and that was badass.
No.206452
Anonymous
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>>206450
I personally liked Toph's addition to the crew. At first I thought it was going to be played as "Oh, poor girl, she's blind." But the series did nothing like that. She made her cool and funny.
No.206455
Anonymous
>>206412
So yaoi is a no-no.
What about two girls where one uses a strap-on? Just want to make sure how far from average sex can I take the request.
No.206456
Anonymous
>>206445
1. Avatar. Its the only actually good show there. The rest are enjoyable and have top tier lolis, but as far as show quality goes, its way above the rest.
2. Jackie Chan adventures. Fun show.
3. Ben 10. Same as above, but I would never have cared without Gwen.
4. Inpector Gadget. Loved it as a kid but I doubt it holds up.
No.206457
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

No image update so far sadly. Just popping in to give some form of update, although I will be keeping it brief. I have had zero chance to draw today and it's already almost 3:30AM. I had a lot happen today, all of it good so things may be looking up soon. I don't want to get my hopes up as I have had things take a turn for the worse in a situation very similar to now so I'm not going to jinx myself by communicating how things are looking up yet. I will try and post responses to comments tomorrow, but seeing as how I just spent the last few hours fixing a bathtub that the landlord refused to send maintenance to fix so that someone that will be up in a couple hours can bathe before work, for a new job I just got them and of which I will soon have to drive them to, I need to try and get at least a little sleep. Lets just say that unless somehow things get turned around and do take a turn for the worse, I will be sabotaging the hell out of said bathtub within the next two weeks as it will no longer be my problem.
No.206458
Anonymous
Replies:>>206480
>>206457
>I will be sabotaging the hell out of said bathtub

Well, if you need a few ideas about how to do that just let me know. I still remember a few good pranks from high school involving plumbing
No.206463
Anonymous
>>206457
Hope things work out man.
No.206468
Anonymous
Replies:>>206480
>>206457
>I had a lot happen today, all of it good so things may be looking up soon.

Goddamn.. fingers crossed!
No.206472
Anonymous
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>>206457
Hey Incog, Dana Terrace (Gravity Falls storyboarder) did an Ask Me Anything today on reddit and recommended every beginner storyboader/animator to do these exercises every day to avoid having wrist troubles, because apparently it’s a common thing there in Disney to have wrist troubles.

Have you ever had wrist issues after drawing a long comic page or perhaps doing an animation?
No.206480
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is a rough sketch of the next $5 request on my list, which is another Dipcifica request. Been having a very, very rough time of finding an opportunity to draw over the last couple days and sadly it will be this way for a few more days. As such this sketch will require a bit of rework in the line phase since I have been rushing so quickly during every small chance I've gotten to draw. I will try and push out at least 2 updates each day over the weekend to try and make up for it. There is a single step left in things potentially getting significantly better but I will likely not know for sure until around the 15th. This weekend I will for sure color the rest of the Star Wars comic so that I am free to start on a shorter $10 request just to get one done this month and then the rest of the month will be dedicated to Wanda and Pietro sketches. Immediately after I finish the Star Wars parody I will make sure to update my Patreon page all around as far as request posts/pledge bonuses, although making new pledge tiers is still in the air until things are for sure figured out.

>>206417
>So... all in all I take you're cool but would prefer having more time for drawing.

Pretty much this. Right now I am really wishing I had more time, but I am now taking 2 people to work and back around going to my own job so I only really have small periods to work on things. I will be able to free up a little more time because I was able to get enough leniency with my job to make it part time while I drive people around since it is more financially beneficial to cut around 4 hours from my shift to drive other people to 16+ hours of work between the two. I am now taking full control over their finances while they work so all money is deposited to me so that I can get everyone on track with their own money. Hopefully we will be bound to a lease together for a year (just awaiting one more step, which is what I will know by the 15th), in which I will hopefully be able to continue working only part time after I properly hold onto their finances to get them both their own vehicles. This has left me with very little time over the last two days, and will interfere a bit next week, but hopefully after that I will have just as much time as before, and then within a month or two lead to much more time to draw.

>>206420
>I like the interactions with her hair. I'm not sure what's Cindi is doing there though.

Cindy is there to be Cindy. What she is doing/will do there is up to your imagination.

>>206415
>Huh... touchy topic. I'll throw healthcare into the "Stuff better off not mentioned here" basket.

Probably. I likely went a bit cereal for no raisin, but I felt an exaggerated comparison was appropriate.

>>206458
>Well, if you need a few ideas about how to do that just let me know. I still remember a few good pranks from high school involving plumbing

Well it's less about a prank and more about just undoing the fixes and making it just as much of a problem for the landlord as it was for me. Technically I'm not even supposed to fix the thing, for liability reasons, but I couldn't stand for not having a working bathtub.

>>206468
>Goddamn.. fingers crossed!

Same...

>>206472
>Hey Incog, Dana Terrace (Gravity Falls storyboarder) did an Ask Me Anything today on reddit and recommended every beginner storyboader/animator to do these exercises every day to avoid having wrist troubles, because apparently it’s a common thing there in Disney to have wrist troubles.
>
>Have you ever had wrist issues after drawing a long comic page or perhaps doing an animation?

I've actually never had wrist issues but I will keep those exercises in mind. I actually usually just experience pain/cramps in my thumb joint. I've always had a bit of a knot there in my right hand that I cannot feel in my left hand so maybe that is related, but I feel it's all just from using my thumb that often. It generally only really happens when I invest many, many consecutive hours using a stylus.

>>206419
>That pick came out fucking great. Thanks so much Incog. You really know how to do a cute Jazmine. Probably going to have to request her more in the future.

You're welcome. Glad you liked it. Jazmine is asked regularly enough, and I always did like her, so seeing that request just made me want to do it.
>>206445
>Let's continue with the trivia questions to chillax from all the bad feels.
>From these four shows that I guess you've seen, in which order do you like them most?

>Avatar (Aang's story, not Korra's).

From the list I would have to say that ATLA is the best overall as a show. For a cartoon the characters are quite well developed and it does generally have a pretty good balance in its material.

>Ben 10 (Original series).

I'd say original Ben 10 wins second place. Gwen was simply amazing, and her personality along with her relationship with Ben is just great material to work with. Despite how each episode seemed to have an entirely different plot it did a good job of consistency while maintaining an actual underlying story. Much like ATLA I feel it suffered greatly in the spin-off, mainly because the characters just became that much less interesting. I feel the creators of these series should have stayed away from shows that focused too heavily on teenage drama. Like LoK, they made the characters too generic and left any character development out except to explicitly aid in the plot.

>Jackie Chan adventures.

Was great at times, but had far too long of a chain of fillers with no substance and terrible consistency. It definitely did a good job at times when it followed a stable plot, but when it didn't it was very meh. I really loved Jade's personality, and for some reason whenever she got annoyed/pouted (which happened all the time because everyone tried to keep her out of everything) it just seemed adorable to me. Having recently watched a bit of the series (still have yet to finish it as I have started reducing meal times), the motivation to draw her has been a bit higher.

>Inspector Gadget.

Still a great show but it definitely has fallen victim to time. A show that I think is good for what it is yet I cannot think of anything that particularly stands out as a positive/negative for the show. A good watch, with nothing outside of maybe its age that would push me away, but not something that leaves me particularly craving the next episode (except maybe to see more Penny...).
No.206481
Anonymous
Huh?

>>206472
>Hey Incog, Dana Terrace (Gravity Falls storyboarder)...
>>206480
>Here is a rough sketch of the next $5 request on my list, which is another Dipcifica request.

Illuminati confirmed.
No.206482
Anonymous
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>>206480
I'm so sorry again.
No.206483
lennoxmacduff
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>>206480

From what I can see in the first panel, they’re at the Northwest manor pool. Sorry, I forgot to give you a color reference for the manor like I mentioned I’ll do. Here it’s one with the brick wall and also I caught the characters blinking so that you can easily sample the eyeshadow color. By the way now that it’s on sketch phase, there’s a typo in the third text bubble where it says ‘anwhere’ instead of ‘anywhere’.

The second panel is so detailed it’s breathtaking. You can even see the hymen and the rugae! It could be used in an anatomy class.

In the third panel, Pacifica’s face is hilarious. She’s like “Oh my gosh! It’s like a garden hose!” And apparently every spurt that lands in that panel keeps its position over the next two panels, even though they’re from a different angle. That’s an amazing level of care for the details, I love it.

For the fourth and fifth panel, I shortened the dialog on the request but I did that five hours before you posted the sketch so apparently I didn’t do it in time. My bad. I’m not complaining though, it’s not that I didn’t like the dialogue but that I wanted to make the comic easier to draw. Anyways, I’m glad you managed to pull it through, and the fact that she’s curious in the fifth panel fits a scene in the $10 comic request perfectly.

All in all, the request was ‘lots of fluids’ and there are lots of fluids there, so it’s great! I especially like the one that it’s about to fall from Pacifica’s cheek but it’s left hanging. It’s also good to see that Dipper is fairly fit. All those adventures had to eventually give him some musculature.

Now, I know this is a sketch but I’d like to point out a few small details that are missing. Where other characters display eye-bags when distressed or angered, Dipper always has eye-bags. I guess you didn’t add them because either they have their own color and won’t appear until the color phase or because it’s a sketch. Anyways, just wanted to make sure they’re there. Also, it would be great if Pacifica had eye-bags too only in the fourth panel where she’s glaring at him. As a side note to that, I think there’s something odd with Pacifica’s mouth in the fourth panel. Not sure though, since characters’ profiles are very rarely seen in the show, but her mouth somehow reminds me of Kermit the Frog. I'll do a quick rewatch and gather a few screenshots from characters in profile just to be sure I'm not freaking out or something.
No.206484
Anonymous
>>206480
I thought there was going to be a part where she said
Butler! Towel!
No.206486
Anonymous
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>>206484
>her mouth somehow reminds me of Kermit the Frog
Really?
No.206490
Anonymous
>>206482
Hehehaha you're so fired!
No.206491
Anonymous
>>206480
Incog, minor grammar+spelling error on the last speech bubble on the first panel. Pacifica: "I'll let you spray it *all anwhere* on my body" quote unquote. Minor, probably fixed already.
No.206492
Anonymous
Replies:>>206527
>>206480
Pacifica is so wide-eyed when Dipper is cumblasting her that I have a feeling Incog had lots of fun doing her face.
No.206493
Anonymous
Replies:>>206527
>>206480
So sexy man. Loving the gush of sperm ;)
No.206494
Anonymous
>>206480
forgot the mouth in the last one
No.206495
Anonymous
>>206484
With such a cumshot it should be Dipper who says “Butler! I’m dehydrated. Beverage!”

I love these funny comics.
No.206496
Anonymous
Replies:>>206500
>>206494
No, it's there, just maybe hard to make out without any colors to discern it from the cum splats.
No.206500
Anonymous
Replies:>>206535
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>>206494
>>206496
Pretty sure it's a reference to this.
No.206504
Anonymous
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>>206483
>It’s like a garden hose!
My thoughts exactly.
No.206505
Anonymous
Replies:>>206527
>>206480
Just want to say that, among other things already expressed by others, I really appreciate how you make sure the cum is still in a consistent place (allowing for drips) from panel to panel, despite the different perspectives. Too many artists neglect cum continuity and just splatter it randomly.

I'm also one who'd like to see a "Butler!" joke, but can't really fit it in a one pager. Maybe (after I've given up hope for my existing requests or they hapen to be done) I'll request it as single panel later to imagine it as a splash-page (no pun intended) to end on.
No.206508
Anonymous
>>206472
This also applies to gamers and those using the PC for several hours on a daily basis.
No.206509
Anonymous
>>206480
Nice buckets there Dipper.
No.206510
Anonymous
Replies:>>206527
can you do one with leni loud
No.206518
Anonymous
can you do one with leni loud
No.206524
Anonymous
>>206480
>Been having a very, very rough time of finding an opportunity to draw over the last couple days and sadly it will be this way for a few more days. As such this sketch will require a bit of rework in the line phase since I have been rushing so quickly during every small chance I've gotten to draw.

Very sad to hear you're unable to draw lately. You having to rush and compromise on quality breaks my heart. With that said, this is fantastic for a 'rushed' piece, which only goes to show how efficient you've become.
No.206526
Anonymous
>>206480
>I will hopefully be able to continue working only part time after I properly hold onto their finances to get them both their own vehicles. This has left me with very little time over the last two days... but hopefully after that I will have just as much time as before, and then within a month or two lead to much more time to draw.

Few people would help fix people's lives to this degree. We live in a shit-hole of a world now and people like you are keeping it from falling apart. Good luck with everything man, thanks for taking time to share your art.
No.206527
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for the current Dipcifica request. It will receive colors next and then I will try and finish the colors on the Star Wars set.

>>206482
>I'm so sorry again.

Apology was accepted the first time. Never again.

>>206483
>From what I can see in the first panel, they’re at the Northwest manor pool. Sorry, I forgot to give you a color reference for the manor like I mentioned I’ll do. Here it’s one with the brick wall and also I caught the characters blinking so that you can easily sample the eyeshadow color. By the way now that it’s on sketch phase, there’s a typo in the third text bubble where it says ‘anwhere’ instead of ‘anywhere’.

Thanks for the reference; that will save me a minute looking for the colors. I thought it would be interesting to continue it at the pool after the last one, although I didn't feel like leaving the space in the paneling for the peacock this time around. We'll just assume it wandered off, is off-panel or that it was chased off away from the pool. Also, thanks for the heads up on that typo. I was going to look for typos since I was in such a hurry to wrap things up last night but I may have still missed it.

>In the third panel, Pacifica’s face is hilarious. She’s like “Oh my gosh! It’s like a garden hose!” And apparently every spurt that lands in that panel keeps its position over the next two panels, even though they’re from a different angle. That’s an amazing level of care for the details, I love it.

Yeah, characters with heavily stylized facial details are pretty fun to do expressions with. It also helps that I find astonished/surprised expressions to be adorable. I'm also glad people seem to notice I try and keep splatter consistently placed. I myself do not really like when it is just applied randomly between panels. I can maybe understand in a longer comic to maybe have inconsistency as pages go on, but on a single page I feel there is no need.

>For the fourth and fifth panel, I shortened the dialog on the request but I did that five hours before you posted the sketch so apparently I didn’t do it in time. My bad. I’m not complaining though, it’s not that I didn’t like the dialogue but that I wanted to make the comic easier to draw. Anyways, I’m glad you managed to pull it through, and the fact that she’s curious in the fifth panel fits a scene in the $10 comic request perfectly.

Yeah, I did not notice. Time constraints were so bad that I just copy/pasted the request as it was into a Notepad document so that I could get to it without having to open my browser and log in to Patreon. As such I did not log into Patreon at all between when I copied it and when I finished it, so any changes made in that time were not seen. Also, yeah, I had it end that way so that it would lead directly into the $10 request for when I eventually get to that. Just generally going for a bit of consistency now between requests from the same show/source.

>All in all, the request was ‘lots of fluids’ and there are lots of fluids there, so it’s great! I especially like the one that it’s about to fall from Pacifica’s cheek but it’s left hanging. It’s also good to see that Dipper is fairly fit. All those adventures had to eventually give him some musculature.

Tried to fit as much fluids as I could without completely overwhelming the rest of the image. I like to add a little bit of the hanging fluid like that just to add some variety to the splatter. I feel it adds a bit more realism to the fluids and makes them seem less painted on. I also remembered your comment about his muscle definition when I did the last request so I wanted to be sure to keep it that way for this one as well.

>Now, I know this is a sketch but I’d like to point out a few small details that are missing. Where other characters display eye-bags when distressed or angered, Dipper always has eye-bags. I guess you didn’t add them because either they have their own color and won’t appear until the color phase or because it’s a sketch. Anyways, just wanted to make sure they’re there. Also, it would be great if Pacifica had eye-bags too only in the fourth panel where she’s glaring at him. As a side note to that, I think there’s something odd with Pacifica’s mouth in the fourth panel. Not sure though, since characters’ profiles are very rarely seen in the show, but her mouth somehow reminds me of Kermit the Frog. I'll do a quick rewatch and gather a few screenshots from characters in profile just to be sure I'm not freaking out or something.

Yeah, the eye bags are something I completely forgot for Dipper in the sketch. I remember telling myself to do it at one point, but clearly I immediately forgot to do so. When I rush too much I'm thinking a million things at a time so I tend to forget little things like that but I definitely added them in the lines. Luckily I read this comment before posting so I could go in and add the little line for that on Pacifica in the 4th panel before uploading. I made it smaller than Dipper's but still added the detail. I also agree that the face was off a little bit
in that panel, but generally the faces are off quite a bit in my Gravity Falls sketches compared to the lines. Since I do not put the time into putting down any stabilized vector lines during my sketches I do not put much time into rendering their faces in the sketch phase since I am confident in doing so with the line phase as long as I have some general guideline to follow.

>>206484
>I thought there was going to be a part where she said
>Butler! Towel!

As much as I would have enjoyed doing so, just fitting the request as it was posted took up the entire page.

>>206492
>Pacifica is so wide-eyed when Dipper is cumblasting her that I have a feeling Incog had lots of fun doing her face.

Indeed I did. It's always fun to add expressions to Gravity Falls character, but Pacifica is an exceptionally fun one.

>>206493
>So sexy man. Loving the gush of sperm ;)

Well that was the request so there it is.

>>206494
>forgot the mouth in the last one

Nah, it's there, just hidden among the splatter. Should be easier to see in the colors as someone has already mentioned.

>>206505
>Just want to say that, among other things already expressed by others, I really appreciate how you make sure the cum is still in a consistent place (allowing for drips) from panel to panel, despite the different perspectives. Too many artists neglect cum continuity and just splatter it randomly.

Yeah, doing the random splatter between panels is something that bugs me as well. I always at least put in some effort to keep it consistent.

>I'm also one who'd like to see a "Butler!" joke, but can't really fit it in a one pager. Maybe (after I've given up hope for my existing requests or they hapen to be done) I'll request it as single panel later to imagine it as a splash-page (no pun intended) to end on.

Yeah, I still would have liked to have added it but as I stated before I need to stop adding additional work to my requests with how much I want to get caught up on. Maybe when I am caught up or after I eventually do the $10 request that follows this one I can add something with a butler. After this one she would be expecting it so it would make sense for her to have someone readied with a towel since she sure as hell wouldn't clean it herself.

>>206510
>can you do one with leni loud

Maybe in the future. Chances will be better if someone requests it, but as of now I haven't really had the time to watch Loud House so I don't have a lot of motivation to do it. I definitely want to get around to watching it because the theme is definitely 34 worthy. Based on the character designs alone I have other characters I would choose over Leni, but maybe that will change once I've watched a bit of it.
No.206529
Anonymous
>>206527
>I didn't feel like leaving the space in the paneling for the peacock this time around.
The poor peacock probably ran off when it saw Dipper shooting lol
No.206530
Anonymous
>>206527
This image comes on the nick of time for the next trivia question!

In which order do you like these 2015 shows the most?
Gravity Falls.
Steven Universe.
Star vs the Forces of Evil.
No.206532
Anonymous
>>206527
I'm feelin this one incog, it's perfect!
No.206533
Anonymous
Replies:>>206568
>>206527
I'll take this as the river/waterfall of cum we were expecting!
No.206535
Anonymous
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>>206500
No, Pacifica's mouth in the fifth panel is a readaptation of the scene where Dipper suggests Mabel to play a math game.
No.206536
Anonymous
>>206527
Hey Incog, the twelfth it’ll make a year since you came back!
No.206537
Anonymous
Replies:>>206538
>>206536
How long was he gone before then?
Reminds me of TheGiantHamster.
No.206538
Anonymous
>>206537
I think Incog came back from the long 2012-2014 hiatus in Easter 2014, left June of the same year and then came back June 2015, so a year approximately.
No.206539
Anonymous
Replies:>>206568
>>206527
These weird comics somehow make me love this pairing more. The situation is a little bit odd, but they are kinda cute!
No.206541
Anonymous
>>206530
>In which order do you like these 2015 shows the most?
Between Gravity Falls and Steven Universe I don’t know which one I would put first.
Steven Universe is cute, has a great GREAT voice actresses and a good plot. If I had to say a flaw it’d be the pacing which is really slow, like ten filler episodes per plot episode, and the background art could use a little more work to look better.

In Gravity Falls I really liked the art, the plot and the humor, but they messed up pretty bad in Season 2. Spoilers aside, you can’t simply develop secondary characters so that the audience goes from hating them to love them, and then simply ignore all this development in second half of the season and the finale. But that’s all Disney’s fault. They never paid attention to Gravity Falls because in their eyes the creator was only a 27 yo guy who had just finished college, so when Alex came to Disney with 3 seasons and Disney said “You have 1 season and then you’re out”, it’s no wonder that Alex was already moved to Fox before the show had even ended. I mean, Disney treated him very badly and reluctantly allowed him to begin working on a season 2 a week after the season 1 had finished, and that’s led to needless yearlong hiatuses. So yeah, no wonders Alex rushed the second half of Season 2 and tried to wrap everything up, because if I were him I’d have punched some Disney directive in the face and get out of there asap.

Star vs. FoE definitely gets the third place. The show has its absurd and funny moments, but it’s a clear Kim Possible clone with a heavy Sailor Moon touch, and it's honestly an average-to-low show.

Meh, companies nowadays suck. They try to get the most money in the cheapest way. Best era for cartoons was 1995-2005.
No.206542
Anonymous
Replies:>>206546
>>206541
> you can’t simply develop secondary characters so that the audience goes from hating them to love them, and then simply ignore all this development in second half of the season and the finale.
Yeah, I totally get you. The first thing they do in the second season is push Wendip out of the way, and seeing Dipper nervously trying to talk to Wendy in the first season was half the fun for me. Four months hiatus, then we get Pacifica’s development episode and then another four months hiatus in which most the fandom is striving to see those two’s chemistry again in an episode.
But nope! Let’s ignore Pacifica’s development, let’s ignore wherever McGucket went for hiding, let's ignore where the author has been for thirty years, let’s ignore the whole mess caused by the earthquake in Not What He Seems and let’s focus only in the childish rivalry between Stan and the new character for almost ten episodes in which they make zero progress, with of course a two months hiatus in between each episode. I actually burst into laughter when someone in twitter asked the show directors about the hiatuses and they said the show had been finished for almost a year but Disney picked the releasing dates. Applause for how to turn a great show into just a good one.

Disney also moved Star vs. the Forces of Evil to a worse animation studio halfway through the first season. That’s why the development team stopped animating Star’s spells and why when they walked it looked weird. In conclusion, anyone who wants to begin a cartoon should stay away from Disney. They do good movies, but they don’t give a shit about Disney Channel. *cough* Pickle and Peanut *cough*.
No.206546
Anonymous
Replies:>>206568
>>206541
>>206542
Hum... Alright, disney cartoons also thrown into the 'touchy topics' basket.
No.206549
Anonymous
>>206541
Please keep the bad vibes out of the trivia, they're to chillax.
No.206551
Anonymous
>>206530
>In which order do you like these 2015 shows the most?
1. Gravity Falls. I figured out Stan and Dipper in a few episodes, but Mabel kept surprising me until the finale. She's cute, funny and random. Completely worth to watch and rewatch.

2. Steven Universe. I love Pearl, Amethyst and Garnet, Garnet the most. She's an amazing singer.

3. Star vs the Forces of Evil. Well… It has a few funny episodes but zero consistency. The characters don't learn.
No.206554
Anonymous
>>206527
>Apology was accepted the first time. Never again.
I'll accept the punishment!
No.206556
Anonymous
>>206527
Lol with all that cum she looks like a dalmatian
No.206557
Anonymous
>>206527
What's that at the end of her hair in the first panel? She has a fold or something?
No.206567
Anonymous
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Incog, a pitch for your upcoming Ben 10 masterwork. Gwen lacing Ben's drinks with ground Viagra tablets she finds in her father's bedside drawer. With Ben's full consent of course, he wants to last longer with her after all.
No.206568
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the colors for the Dipcifica $5 request. Will begin coloring the Star Wars parody next.

>>206530
>This image comes on the nick of time for the next trivia question!
>
>In which order do you like these 2015 shows the most?

Conveniently this list is already in order for me.

>Gravity Falls.

Was a great show, although it clearly suffered from being rushed to an end through season 2. If this show was indeed granted 3 seasons, thus allowing it to expand a little more upon its established character development, it really could have been much better. I would definitely not hesitate to watch a new season of this show (as time allows). The only real complaint I can personally give about this show is what likely had to be removed to end the show within the allowed time slot, but that's an issue outside of the creator's control so I do not fault it for that.

>Steven Universe.

Really great show, but I do agree with people that the pacing is a bit slow. The show is really great while advancing the plot, and it has really great characters, but it deviates far too often from the plot for random stories. With how short each episode is I feel they should focus more on advancing the plot far more often. The show was enjoyable at first, but thinking back the only parts that really stick out are when new characters are introduced or further developed upon, and everything in between is highly forgettable.

>Star vs the Forces of Evil.

Kind of suffers the same way as Steven universe in terms of having too much filler. Out of every episode, half of the episode seems to be plot advancement and the other half is absolutely random with nothing of any relevance occurring. The problem with filler episodes in anything is that while they can sometimes be enjoyable, they are very forgettable since they do not lead anywhere or have any continuity. I like the show's style, I like the characters, I think the voice acting is good, and the development/plot was good when being established, but it had too much nothing going on to hold me as much as the other shows.

>>206533
>I'll take this as the river/waterfall of cum we were expecting!

Well, not quite that much, but getting there.

>>206536
>Hey Incog, the twelfth it’ll make a year since you came back!

Wow, can't believe it's been that long already. Time is flying way too damn fast trying to keep up with everything that's going on while keeping with updates.

>>206539
>These weird comics somehow make me love this pairing more. The situation is a little bit odd, but they are kinda cute!

I really did like the development of these two characters in the show so it is quite fun drawing them in this way. Sadly the show was cut too short to establish their development together further.

>>206546
>Hum... Alright, disney cartoons also thrown into the 'touchy topics' basket.

Hey, it's the internet. Everything is a 'touchy topic' as long as it leaves room for people to have an opinion on it.
No.206573
Anonymous
>>206568
Exceptional work sir.
No.206574
Anonymous
>>206568
I see you’re using grey scales for your late backgrounds and that’s good. Dull colors like greys, whites, soft greens are yellows are probably the best for backgrounds because they allow the viewer to focus on the characters instead of the on the background.
No.206579
lennoxmacduff
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>>206568
Yeah, some of the deleted scenes were very funny but I can understand why Disney preferred to keep the mild suggestive sexual themes aside.
<-- Luckily, gifs made out of the original storyboards aren’t hard to find in the internet.

As >>206574 said, I think the color choice for the background is great. The light-grey makes the splatter that lands on the floor stand out and it’s a great contrast with the predominant yellow of her hair and the brick red of the wall.

The small shadow Pacifica has on the edge of her hair makes it look so puffy! I’m sure they don’t mind how hard the concrete floor is, she carries her own fluffy mattress on her back after all. Even Dipper places his knees on it. I guess drawing characters with such a long hair is a pain when it comes to positioning them, but her hair looks very beautiful.

Oh, I failed to notice this in the previous images. In the first panel they’re holding hands behind her thigh! That’s very cute!

Wow, Incog. The second panel is even more breathtaking now. That shine on their skin achieves a great effect on both of them. I have no idea how you make that and I’ll probably not understand it anyways since all I can do in Photoshop is put several images together, but that shining effect and the blushes are my favorite part of your colored images.

Now that the stripes on the third panel are replaced by a blush, her face is even funnier. It makes more noticeable the distance between her mouth and her nose, giving the impression that her jaw fell in surprise but she kept her mouth shut just in case something went that way.

Regarding her mouth in the fourth panel, I honestly think it looks better this way. Her mouth in the lines image was already good, but now it’s like more consistent with the show. I love in the transition from the fourth panel to the fifth how Pacifica goes from glaring at him to notice that Dipper is still hard and dripping.
No.206580
Anonymous
Replies:>>206592
>>206568
>Star vs the Forces of Evil.
Speaking of which, the season 2 starts tomorrow.
No.206585
Anonymous
>>206568
That coloring job looks fucking great. I hope you do buckets of jizz like this from time to time more often. Its nice. Shows how much he was enjoying himself.
No.206587
Anonymous
Replies:>>206590
>>206568
actually it was the show creator who decided to end it after two seasons due to varies reasons but mainly as working on the show was really exhausted and he couldn't work on three so he smoothed two together. That is why season two had long wait between episodes and the it being the last season wasn't announced until two episodes left as Disney was hoping he would change his mind and make another season
No.206590
Anonymous
>>206587
Most of this wasn't like that. In the 2014 Comic-Con Alex showed a sneak peak of the season 2 episode 1 and announced that he had originally thought of leaving Disney after season 1 but in the end he had decided to pull off a second season for the fans. That was two years ago.
The long spacing between episodes had nothing to do with Disney trying to change Alex’s mind, it was the ‘Disney publisher team’ or whatever its name is who did a study of the audience and the competence and then decided which would be the best airing dates for each episode.

But there’s no point arguing about this, it’s water under the bridge anyways.
No.206592
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the colors for page 6 of the Star Wars parody. Just one more page to go and it's finally done. Missed being able to have this update up by the 10th by about 20 minutes, but oh well, I tried. Hopefully I didn't miss anything in this one like I often do...

>>206574
>I see you’re using grey scales for your late backgrounds and that’s good. Dull colors like greys, whites, soft greens are yellows are probably the best for backgrounds because they allow the viewer to focus on the characters instead of the on the background.

Yeah, luckily they have been available values for the backgrounds as they fit the location. Plus, with the way I have been using multiply layers lately for shadows, it makes it very easy to separate things in the backgrounds using values since white is affected so heavily.

>>206579
>The small shadow Pacifica has on the edge of her hair makes it look so puffy! I’m sure they don’t mind how hard the concrete floor is, she carries her own fluffy mattress on her back after all. Even Dipper places his knees on it. I guess drawing characters with such a long hair is a pain when it comes to positioning them, but her hair looks very beautiful.

Yeah, characters with big hair can be a pain at times. This is especially noticeable though less with characters that have long hair and more with characters that have hair that puffs out, like what Jazmine has. With such massive, puffy pigtails it is easy for them to get in the way of visibility when drawn in a lot of angles. Heck, in the last picture I did of her, if Riley wasn't grabbing her hair so tightly then it would have blocked off all visibility of her bottom. This limitation on angles is a pain when I particularly like to include character's faces, but drawing the character from the front can block everything happening behind them. With characters that just have long hair it is often easier to just push the hair to the side, or have it flopping out of the way on its own as the character moves.

>>206579
>Wow, Incog. The second panel is even more breathtaking now. That shine on their skin achieves a great effect on both of them. I have no idea how you make that and I’ll probably not understand it anyways since all I can do in Photoshop is put several images together, but that shining effect and the blushes are my favorite part of your colored images.

Really, everything that I do with lights/shadows outside of my flats and a base shadow color are done solely with layer settings with the base color palette and/or reselecting my flats. For the blush I just use default red on a Multiply layer set to 40%, which is clipped at the flats layer below it. I then just select the area blush will be added to, grab a soft airbrush, and brush it in. For the shine I use a Screen layer at 100% and go over the area with its own color. This means all of the shine I put on Gwen is done using the Pen tool by selecting her base skin tone from the flats layer.

When I add the blur effect to something I literally just use the Blur tool to blur it after drawing it in with the Pen tool. When I want something to maintain hard edges but to have gradation I will use the Gradient tool set to Erase instead of the Blur tool. This is pretty much how I do it for things like softer cloth folds, collar bone/rib cage lines, kneecaps, etc. The neat thing about the gradient tool set to erase in Clip Studio Paint is that anything after where you start the gradient will never be fully erased by the tool so it is easy to get used to making values gradate strongly.

>>206580
>Speaking of which, the season 2 starts tomorrow.

Oh, was not aware of that. I'll have to try and go back and finish the first season.
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206624
>>206592
>For the blush I just use default red on a Multiply layer set to 40%, which is clipped at the flats layer below it.

I thought the proper method for blushes was simply paint the area red in a new layer, then go to Filter>Blur>Gaussian Blur and change the radius until you're happy with the result. (I'm talking about Photoshop)
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206624
>>206592
>Oh, was not aware of that. I'll have to try and go back and finish the first season.

Well, with the Saint Olga episode which is a 20 min especial and the finale I think you're pretty much caught up. The rest are the sorts of:
"I'm gonna talk to Jackie!"
"Okay."
Jackie (luckily) says five words in the whole episode and they achieve nothing.
No.206596
Anonymous
Replies:>>206624
>>206592
Page 6 already? Wow, where does the time go!
No.206597
Anonymous
>>206592
That mess they're making looks so sticky >_<
No.206599
Anonymous
Replies:>>206624
>>206592
I love how Gwen goes directly for Toph's breasts like "I want to have that too!"
The only flaw I see is sitting Toph in front of that black window, considering her suit is black too. It would've been better if Gwen and she switched spots but hey, that dripping sperm draws the eyes away from that quite nicely.
No.206604
Anonymous
Replies:>>206624
>>206592
So that's how the froce is drained from lightsabers... interesting. I have to get one of those lightsabers and see if they try to convince me too to join the dark side of the froce.
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Anonymous
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>>206592
This is one of my favorite movies now that I think about it.
No.206608
Anonymous
>>206592
So much goo comin outta Gwen!
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Anonymous
>>206592
Next trivia!
What made you begin drawing and when was it aproximatedly?
(BTW if you feel uncomfortable or anything about this stuff just ignore one and I'll stop)
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Anonymous
>>206610
Sigh.. must you?
No.206624
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is the final page for the Star Wars parody. With this it's done. Finally done. Was a fun one but coloring these things makes it take so damn long, especially with such busy pages/panels. Sadly I will likely be stuck here at 3 updates this weekend as opposed to the 4 I had hoped for, but it is what it is.

>>206594
>I thought the proper method for blushes was simply paint the area red in a new layer, then go to Filter>Blur>Gaussian Blur and change the radius until you're happy with the result. (I'm talking about Photoshop)

There are a ton of ways to do things, but I prefer the method I indicated. I always start my coloring by making 2x 40% Multiply layers, a 15% Multiply layer, and a 100% Screen layer and use those for everything. Applying a filter like Gaussian Blur would require making a new layer, when instead I could just go onto the 40% Multiply layer that is not the base shadows and apply the blush there. Using a soft air brush also gives better control than relying on a filter and requires less trial and error of setting numerical values.

>>206595
>Well, with the Saint Olga episode which is a 20 min especial and the finale I think you're pretty much caught up. The rest are the sorts of:
>"I'm gonna talk to Jackie!"
>"Okay."
>Jackie (luckily) says five words in the whole episode and they achieve nothing.

That is pretty much the problem I have with the series. I am fine with random humor, but when you have a show that has an advancing plot I find that it becomes a deterrent when you have too many episodes that are fully random with little to no actual advancement.

>>206596
>Page 6 already? Wow, where does the time go!

Yeah, time flies too damn fast...

>>206599
>I love how Gwen goes directly for Toph's breasts like "I want to have that too!"
>The only flaw I see is sitting Toph in front of that black window, considering her suit is black too. It would've been better if Gwen and she switched spots but hey, that dripping sperm draws the eyes away from that quite nicely.

Yeah, I immediately wanted to draw Gwen with that attitude in their interaction. Gwen of all people would not hesitate to grab that chest. Also, the reason I stuck Toph in front of the window is that it gave her more space to lean back. Since Toph received the anal penetration she would have to lean back more to show it off in that position.

>>206604
>So that's how the froce is drained from lightsabers... interesting. I have to get one of those lightsabers and see if they try to convince me too to join the dark side of the froce.

Well, seeing how they have formed a new alliance they may very well no longer differentiate themselves between light and dark. Also, you don't necessarily need to join the dark side since both light and dark must be passed around to reach maximum pleasure. Either side of the froce could be an in with the girls...you'd just need a lot of it to keep up.

>>206610
>Next trivia!
>What made you begin drawing and when was it aproximatedly?
>(BTW if you feel uncomfortable or anything about this stuff just ignore one and I'll stop)

I'm actually not sure when I began drawing. I've been drawing for as long as I remember, but it was about the time of my first appearance that I began wanting to take it serious (I think around 2010?). Sadly life has thrown a lot of curve balls my way, preventing me from dedicating my time completely, so I haven't been able to be as dedicated as I had hoped. I've realized now that I have to ignore these curve balls as much as possible though and just let them pass if I'm ever to reach that point so I'm working on getting my time totally to myself so I can dedicate everything to it.
No.206625
Anonymous
Replies:>>206638
>>206624
>(I think around 2010?)
I have Ben 10 drawings of yours dating early 2009 so more or less around then.
No.206627
Anonymous
Replies:>>206638
>>206624
Fanatastic final page incog.
No.206629
Anonymous
Replies:>>206638
>>206624
Gaahhh love this page!
No.206631
Anonymous
Gwen and Toph action is great.
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Anonymous
>>206624
Hot production incog. Hope all is well.
No.206635
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206624
I think Katie is the only one there that hasn't seen Star Wars and she is just cluelessly sucking.
No.206636
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
Ever thought about doing more Juniper Lee stuff Incog?
No.206638
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is a sketch of page 1 of my next $10 request. This time it's another Power Pack comic of Jack and Julie that will be going up to 4 pages. Like an idiot I stayed up longer than I should have but what is done is done. Will sketch page 2 next.

>>206625
>I have Ben 10 drawings of yours dating early 2009 so more or less around then.

I guess 2009 it was.

>>206627
>Fanatastic final page incog.
>>206629
>Gaahhh love this page!

Glad to hear it. This page took pretty long so I'm glad it worked out.

>>206629
>Gwen and Toph action is great.

Agreed. Gwen is great. Toph is great. Only greatness can occur when they work together.
No.206639
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206638
Jack is the luckiest kid alive.
No.206640
Anonymous
Jack Power's tower of power. Really?
No.206641
Anonymous
>>206638
Any chance you could enlarge Julie before final lines on this piece Incog? I always fancied Julie as the sexy big sister we wish we had, so it'd be so much hotter if she was about a head taller than Jack.
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Anonymous
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>>206641
No.206644
Anonymous
>>206640
I am charmed by this. Also, is this perhaps foreshadowing the Loli Club treehouse of your next all-star portrait?
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Anonymous
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>>206638
Incog I remember you mentioned your diet had basically been sandwiches for some days because of either lack of time or money.
I was wondering if you have considered these. They are cheap and the noodles expand in your stomach, so they should fill more than a sandwich. They also usually have chicken, potato, carrots and all that stuff which is great of the diet.
No.206646
Anonymous
>>206640
It's hilarious xD
No.206647
Anonymous
Replies:>>206668
>>206645
What incog needs is some damn steak. Not any of this noodle crap. Short of that, multivitamins :3
No.206648
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206638
>..it's another Power Pack comic of Jack and Julie that will be going up to 4 pages. Like an idiot I stayed up longer than I should have but what is done is done. Will sketch page 2 next.

I love everything you said here except the staying up late part. For the benefit of everyone on the planet including yourself, don't!
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>>206638
>Will sketch page 2 next.

And here I was thinking that was the end of it..
No.206654
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206638
Man, to have Julie's head bobbing up and down on my cock while she swallows my sperm would be heavenly.
No.206655
Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206638
She looks mad and about to bite him. I'm not gonna mention the request to avoid spoiling anyone, but I'd love to see Julie taking revenge on him.
No.206657
Anonymous
>>206638
So is that name in the first panel the name of the comic?
No.206658
Anonymous
Replies:>>206669
>>206638
fuck yeah more Power Pack.
No.206668
Anonymous
>>206647
A steak is more expensive and requires a lot more of preparation. The noodles just need water heated in a microwave.
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206673
>>206658
No Katie though. :(
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Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is the sketch of page 2 of the current Power Pack request. Will move on to page 3 next, although I need to go edit my Patreon page first since I planned to do that this weekend but things got in the way. With me cutting my hours a bit in order to get other people to work I should hopefully have my normal amount of time again, although if all goes well I will likely be moving this weekend.

>>206635
>I think Katie is the only one there that hasn't seen Star Wars and she is just cluelessly sucking.

Just Katie doing what Katie does best.

>>206636
>Ever thought about doing more Juniper Lee stuff Incog?

I've thought about it, primarily since I do like Ophelia, but time just doesn't allow it since it's not really a top priority.

>>206639
>Jack is the luckiest kid alive.

Definitely up there in the ranks.

>>206640
>Jack Power's tower of power. Really?

That's the name of his 'secret headquarters' as it appeared in 'Fantastic 4 and Power Pack'. It did get destroyed though shortly after it was introduced so I have been considering putting "Mk II" or something on the sign.

>>206641
>Any chance you could enlarge Julie before final lines on this piece Incog? I always fancied Julie as the sexy big sister we wish we had, so it'd be so much hotter if she was about a head taller than Jack.

Maybe, but she is generally not that much taller than Jack. Overall it seems to me that Jack is about .5 heads taller than Katie, Julie is about .5 heads taller than Jack, and Alex is about .5 heads taller than Julie. This puts Alex at a head over Jack, and Julie at a head over Katie. It's tough to tell in the comics because they are rarely just standing upright side by side, and then there are potential size inconsistencies when they do, but that is how I see it. Julie is a little bigger than Jack in the first page, although the angles probably make it difficult to tell so maybe I can make her a little bigger to emphasize the difference.

>>206645
>Incog I remember you mentioned your diet had basically been sandwiches for some days because of either lack of time or money.
>I was wondering if you have considered these. They are cheap and the noodles expand in your stomach, so they should fill more than a sandwich. They also usually have chicken, potato, carrots and all that stuff which is great of the diet.

I've considered them, but I already have a few jars of Peanut Butter so I just got some bread to go with that since I have a store I can get a loaf from for 79 cents. That issue has been resolved a bit as I was able to get some food, but I do still need to get more.

>>206648
>I love everything you said here except the staying up late part. For the benefit of everyone on the planet including yourself, don't!

Hey, sometimes it's the only way to do what I want to do.

>>206654
>Man, to have Julie's head bobbing up and down on my cock while she swallows my sperm would be heavenly.

Agreed.

>>206655
>She looks mad and about to bite him. I'm not gonna mention the request to avoid spoiling anyone, but I'd love to see Julie taking revenge on him.

Well there definitely will not be space in the current request for that. Maybe someone will request something along them lines in the future.

>>206669
>No Katie though. :(

Yeah, sadly she cannot always be the one receiving the attention she deserves.
No.206675
Anonymous
>>206673
Good to see, you deal with Patreon page. Not bad idea to refresh threads from time to time, it could help reducing some old requests.

So if now you will be doing one request from every tier every month, it mean that you will be making more pics with your own ideas?
No.206676
Anonymous
>>206673
>maybe I can make her a little bigger to emphasize the difference.

Just a tad, particularly from the top perspective of the last panel. Just the slightest bit bigger, she looks about the same size and build as he. Maybe make her torso longer in the second panel too to show the beginnings of a growth spurt. It will be perfect after that.
No.206677
Anonymous
>>206673
>That's the name of his 'secret headquarters' as it appeared in 'Fantastic 4 and Power Pack'.

Your attention to detail is astounding.
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Anonymous
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>>206675
>So if now you will be doing one request from every tier every month, it mean that you will be making more pics with your own ideas?

That would be great to see, especially if they involve shawtie over here.
No.206680
Anonymous
>>206673
Again I'm laughing and popping a boner. Laughing and jerking. It's a very confusing state of being.
No.206684
Anonymous
Replies:>>206689
>>206673
That bottom left panel is pure gold.
No.206689
Anonymous
Replies:>>206774
>>206684
I love the reveal of her backless panties. That is some screwball anime comedic timing right there.
No.206698
Anonymous
>>206673
Really just want Julie's crotch in my mouth so I can inhale it deep.
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Anonymous
>>206673
Have Julie call him a perv/ pervert/ creep at some point and we're in business.
No.206703
Anonymous
Replies:>>206707
>>206679
What did you call her?
No.206705
Anonymous
>>206673
>Jack Power's tower of power. Really?
Well, we can't deny it is a powerful name
No.206707
Anonymous
>>206703
Shawty- "shorty" :Fine-ass woman, or your girl.

FINE ASS WOMAN--Sup shawty, how you doin

Girlfriend-----me an my shawty went to da sex shop yesterday and got some shit, yo.

There are other definitions here:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shawty
No.206713
Anonymous
Replies:>>206717
>>206673
I never doubted for a second that those kind of panties existed
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206719
>>206713
Hehe oh yeah. In kid's sizes ;)
No.206719
Anonymous
>>206717
Considering how models nowadays starve themselves to look thin as a noodle, I'm pretty sure those 'kid sizes' have a high demand.
No.206729
Anonymous
>>206673
Hey Incog the Ben 10 thread has reached 300 posts. I'm not telling you so that you make a new thread though, I'm telling you so that you don't make it.

The guys at the thread buried it due to a misuse of posts like the same guy posting four posts in a row, then there were the people flaming each other and that sort of stuff. I'd wait a little until things cool off or perphaps let someone else do the thread starter.
No.206736
Anonymous
Look incog, you got competence in the cumshot areas >>206616
I prefer your fluids though. And that sounded better in my head but you get what I mean.
No.206739
Anonymous
>>206729
I'd prefer wait until Incog have some time instead of someone else draw some image starter
No matter if that could take more time, Incog's Gwen is fucking awesome and his thread starters are always great
No.206740
Anonymous
>>206739
You will always have more gwen from incog. Doesn't matter if he does the thread starter or not.
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Anonymous
>>206739
It honestly gets under my skin when Incog does a thread starter and people began playing dumb in that thread, as if they wanted it to die quickly so that Incog has to do another thread. Sounds miserable to me.
No.206754
Anonymous
>>206739
I'm hoping its another social media share by Gwen involving Ben this time or solo.
No.206756
Anonymous
>>206741
He actually does them on his own time. He just has to beat another person to it. One time he was busy so Dankwart helped him out.
No.206757
Anonymous
Replies:>>206764
Incog how about a snapchat selfie of Lucky Girl for the new Ben 10 thread where she's trying on a more revealing, alternate version ie: "Trying on the new outfits mom made me"
No.206764
Anonymous
>>206741
As far as I can remember Ben 10 threads have been always like that, even without Incog doing thread starters so it's not just for wanting them dead

But you cant deny that's something who everyone really wait for in there, it's like some kind of great opening for a thread
Just let him decide if he wants to do it if he has the time

>>206757
Just without the mom part and it will be perfect
I dont have anything against her but I dont think that would fit
The LuckyGirl part is great though
No.206769
Anonymous
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/84442422/youre-given-control-of-a-power-pack-book-what

lol at this thread
No.206770
Anonymous
Replies:>>206774
>>206769
I want Jack's power. The power to get any loli to suck my dick at the drop of a hat.
No.206771
Anonymous
Replies:>>206774
>>206769
>https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/84442422/youre-given-control-of-a-power-pack-book-what

Hehe everyone's like "let incognitymous work on it", which I completely agree with.
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Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is page 3. A little later than hoped, but I managed to get into a new lease today and will definitely be moving later this week/this weekend. As such I will be a bit busy, but things should hopefully be getting better soon. Will attempt to do page 4 next, although I may make a stop to make a quick Ben 10 thread starter first.

>>206675
>Good to see, you deal with Patreon page. Not bad idea to refresh threads from time to time, it could help reducing some old requests.
>
>So if now you will be doing one request from every tier every month, it mean that you will be making more pics with your own ideas?

Yeah, I also want to refresh request pages so that, as mentioned in the pages, I want to be more aware of repeat requests so that I can try to better keep up with continued patrons. This way I can at least increase the chances of performing requests for people that remain patient.

For now I have a little bit backed up that I need to get to still, but I do wish to free up more time for personal projects in the future. I personally want to do more focus on comics that extend to at least 10+ pages, and in order to get caught up so I can do so I've found I'll need to dedicate a little less time to requests.

>>206689
>I love the reveal of her backless panties. That is some screwball anime comedic timing right there.

I figured it would be amusing enough to add in without taking up too many frames. Plus I just wanted to add an excuse to make her more embarrassed.

>>206729
>Hey Incog the Ben 10 thread has reached 300 posts.

Hopefully I'll be able to do something for it, but I have to be up in a few hours to take someone to work, then someone to a probation officer, then that person to work, then pick up the first person from work then get to work myself, after which I need to pick up the second person from work. Time in my car is really taking away draw times.

>>206739
>I'd prefer wait until Incog have some time instead of someone else draw some image starter

Hopefully I'll be able to get something together tomorrow, but it may take an extra day if things don't go perfect.

>>206770
>I want Jack's power. The power to get any loli to suck my dick at the drop of a hat.

What a great power indeed.

>>206771
>Hehe everyone's like "let incognitymous work on it", which I completely agree with.

Haha, that would be quite an enjoyable job to get if I were allowed to have full liberty with it. Hopefully soon I will have more time to dedicate to things like that anyway.
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Anonymous
>>206774
I honestly can not believe this series. My balls are already all empty incog I can't possibly go on like this.
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Anonymous
>>206774
Just the thought of Julie's ass gives me wood.
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Anonymous
>>206774
>Hopefully I'll be able to do something for it, but I have to be up in a few hours to take someone to work, then someone to a probation officer, then that person to work, then pick up the first person from work then get to work myself, after which I need to pick up the second person from work. Time in my car is really taking away draw times.

Whoah.. Chaperone, babysitter, prison guard. AND you've got your own job to hold down on top of herding all these lemmings around. You are the busiest person I know. Don't stress about the thread starter bro, we will wait until the ends of time for your portraits of waifu. God speed.
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Anonymous
>>206774
If I didn't know how much you like doing those thread starters I'd just toss an old Ben10 pic and begin a new thread myself.
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Anonymous
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>>206785
No, let incog do it.
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Anonymous
>>206785
>Hopefully I'll be able to get something together tomorrow, but it may take an extra day if things don't go perfect.
You're right so please don't be impatient
No.206797
Anonymous
>>206774
This is kinky as hell incog. Who knew blackmail could be so hot!
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206811
>>206774
I've read through these a few times and have noticed how they bicker like real siblings. The script is fantastic. It's amazing how you've done that.
No.206800
Anonymous
Replies:>>206811
>>206774
>Hey Incog the Ben 10 thread has reached 300 posts.
Even though it has reached 300 posts it hasn't been buried to page 1 yet, so no hurries Incog. As long as it is in the main page it doesn't matter whether it's at the top or at the bottom.
No.206801
Anonymous
>>206774
I heard some artists are getting hammered by Patreon pretty hard for just LINKING loli stuff. Have they bothered you at all?
No.206807
Anonymous
>>206801
Which artists? I follow a few loli artists in Patreon and I've heard no complaints.
No.206808
Anonymous
>>206801
Probably best you keep your page plain and graphic-free to avoid detection as planned incog hehe
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Anonymous
>>206774
>I managed to get into a new lease today and will definitely be moving later this week/this weekend. As such I will be a bit busy, but things should hopefully be getting better soon. Will attempt to do page 4 next, although I may make a stop to make a quick Ben 10 thread starter first.

All the best with the packing and logistics. You're moving to a better neighborhood I hope. And hell yes, can't wait for more Gwen action but only if you get the time of course =)
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Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

I don't like posting sketches of these thread starters, but in case I cannot update again today here is the sketch of my next Ben 10 thread starter. Just another selfie, although with more characters and Ben taking it this time. Will add lines/colors as soon as possible then start the new thread, then will do a sketch of the final page for the current Power Pack request.

>>206798
>I've read through these a few times and have noticed how they bicker like real siblings. The script is fantastic. It's amazing how you've done that.

I do like to try and keep the sibling bickering between characters. It just seems more amusing to think about how sex would go between two characters that clearly get along, but that have that other aspect to their relationship. This is why I am particular about characters like Ben and Gwen, Sokka and Katara, Julie/Katie and Jack, etc.

>>206800
>Even though it has reached 300 posts it hasn't been buried to page 1 yet, so no hurries Incog. As long as it is in the main page it doesn't matter whether it's at the top or at the bottom.

Yeah, that's how I figure it. People are usually patient enough for it that if it takes a day or two it should be fine.

>>206801
>I heard some artists are getting hammered by Patreon pretty hard for just LINKING loli stuff. Have they bothered you at all?

Really? Any examples? I haven't heard anything about that, and from what my previous research seems to have shown they are generally okay with it as long as it is tagged NSFW and does not represent real children. My Patreon was even locked for a few days for a review after it hit a certain financial point and no action was taken against it. Heck, even Gelbooru is hosted on Patreon. Are you sure there is not another reason these people may have been targeted, like 8Chan was?
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Anonymous
>>206811
>My Patreon was even locked for a few days for a review after it hit a certain financial point and no action was taken against it.

I wouldn't worry about it. You're drawings are very obviously of fictional characters. Speaking of which, this new one is banging!
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Anonymous
>>206811
What a stud! And I thought Jack was lucky XD
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Anonymous
Replies:>>206828
>>206811
Ben lets the girls put aside their differences to be part of his harem, it's canon.
No.206818
Anonymous
>>206811
Good to see charmcaster back.
No.206819
Anonymous
Replies:>>206842
>>206811
>Really? Any examples? I haven't heard anything about that, and from what my previous research seems to have shown they are generally okay with it as long as it is tagged NSFW and does not represent real children.

That might have been it. I know an artist that has drawn images of real people that were notified their patreon would be locked if they didn't delete all underage character images. I think there was only one out of dozens of images, and all were linked offsite, but it might have been that. Hopefully that is what it was.
No.206821
Anonymous
>>206811
This is hot. Wish it was Gwen as the pimp in the middle though XD
No.206822
Anonymous
>>206811
Would it make more sense if Charmcaster was holding the camera? Think about it.
No.206824
Anonymous
^it could be composed with Lucy elevated higher in alignment with Gwen, with Ben's arm behind her head. Charmcaster could put that idle limb to good use and have it raised above head taking the selfie. Boom, no wasted space.
No.206825
Anonymous
(Charmcaster's idle limb being the one behind Gwen, her right hand. Her left can be situated on Ben's shoulder instead of in that awkward place under his arm. It would look like she was bringing them in together for the shot more.)
No.206828
Anonymous
Replies:>>206845
>>206816
Ben's dick is the harbinger of galactic peace.
No.206830
Anonymous
^Charmcaster is already a waste of space by herself
No.206832
Anonymous
>>206830
Naww foo CC's hot!
No.206833
Anonymous
>>206830
I sorta dig the 'villain chilling with the heroes' thing. Reminds me of a cover to an Archie comic. I assume they had villains in those.
No.206834
Anonymous
Replies:>>206840
>>206830
STFU Charmcaster is awesome.
No.206840
Anonymous
Replies:>>206845
>>206834
Charmcaster's even brattier than Gwen is. They have the potential to be the best of frenemies but I think the former is too competetive, and the latter would be too flat-out stubborn to share her cousin. That's the dynamic.
No.206842
Anonymous
Replies:>>206845
>>206819
Then IMO the whole "loli artists being targeted in Patreon" is a huge exaggeration, considering that the only guy who was targeted had real childporn.

Careful Incog! People are being killed by lightnings! It has happened to a few! Let's all hide under our beds!
No.206845
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for the upcoming Ben 10 thread starter. Made some changes as mentioned here on /pco/. Would have had this posted right after work but a storm took out my power before I went in to work and I returned to find myself still out of power. Spent time attempting to preserve my refrigerated foods, especially since I could not afford for them to go bad and the power had been out for quite a while, but go figure as soon as I finish up the power comes back on. Now off to bed so I can try to do colors tomorrow and update the Ben 10 thread some time in the day.

>>206822
>Would it make more sense if Charmcaster was holding the camera? Think about it.

Well it was originally going to be just Ben and Gwen, so Ben had the camera. The idea of giving Charmcaster the camera did give me a new Snapchat message idea so I gave it to her.

>>206824
>^it could be composed with Lucy elevated higher in alignment with Gwen, with Ben's arm behind her head. Charmcaster could put that idle limb to good use and have it raised above head taking the selfie. Boom, no wasted space.

Yeah, I was thinking this was in need of some changes when line time came around so I went with what you said. The sketch was rushed quite a bit, and additional characters beyond Ben/Gwen were added simply due to excessive empty space. Since they were added last minute and nothing within the original figures was changed I knew things wouldn't be placed naturally.

>>206828
>Ben's dick is the harbinger of galactic peace.

Always there to help friends and enemies cum together.

>>206840
>Charmcaster's even brattier than Gwen is. They have the potential to be the best of frenemies but I think the former is too competetive, and the latter would be too flat-out stubborn to share her cousin. That's the dynamic.

I do like the Gwen/Charmcaster dynamic, so I have been contemplating doing more Charmcaster, hence why she was my additional choice in this one. It's too bad futa is not allowed here, since I do think Charmcaster/Gwen have some good magic futa potential together, but maybe I'll do some more of that in the near future since I post on Jab now.

>>206842
>Then IMO the whole "loli artists being targeted in Patreon" is a huge exaggeration, considering that the only guy who was targeted had real childporn.
>
>Careful Incog! People are being killed by lightnings! It has happened to a few! Let's all hide under our beds!

Well I can see how it could get mixed up, especially if the "real child porn" was just a drawing that looked a little too realistic for their rules and they just sent a complete removal notice of underage content without being specific about the violation. People still get concerned about posting the content due to the wording of their rules and how they do not attempt to define certain controversial terms. I feel safe due to researching the subject prior and seeing statements on their Twitter and such concerning how they feel about said content. They seem to have rules/guidelines that prohibit pornographic content period, but at the same time they have a NSFW tag for creators of such content. It seems that as long as pornographic content is not of real people or exceptionally realistic renderings, which my work definitely is neither, then they do not have a problem with it. The rules of realistic pornography seem to exist solely to protect themselves from potential legal issues that could come with hosting a service that allows people to sell sexual content on a patronage system, which is no different than why they prohibit gambling/raffles.
No.206848
Anonymous
>>206845
Well this is an improvement. It's so much more dynamic now.
No.206849
Anonymous
Oh incog. This is gonna pop when colored.
No.206850
Anonymous
>>206845
Yeah, Charmcaster is the tallest there, she's definitely the best suited to hold the camera.
No.206851
Anonymous
>>206845
How did you preserved the refrigerated goods without power?
No.206852
Anonymous
>>206845
Superbly done. It does a great job of making us all wish we were Ben. I'm feelin this one man, and it feels good.
No.206853
Anonymous
Replies:>>206854
>>206851
Well duh, Incog obviously used his own froce to keep everything cool until the power came back.
No.206854
Anonymous
>>206853
Sorry anon, that one sounded a little froced.
No.206855
Anonymous
>>206845
Wow, Lucy's face. I'd be wearing that expression too if I was that close to Ben's nuts. Seriously how cute are they!
No.206856
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Looked at this again, felt Ben and Charmcaster had heads much too big and fixed it real quick. Hopefully it's better now.

>>206851
>How did you preserved the refrigerated goods without power?

Got a pack of ice for refrigerated stuff that I needed for tomorrow and transported frozen goods to the new place I will be moving to this weekend. Already have the keys for it so just had to go in and drop it off in the fridge.
No.206857
Anonymous
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>>206856
Haha was just gonna say.. don't color it yet!! Not that it isn't so very, very close to perfect. But there were a few things bugging me about it. I knew you've been extremely time-poor lately so I took a closer look at it for you. The fixes probably aren't obvious until you overlay them. Minor things like Perspective, Ben's hip region, the definition on Lucy's shoulder, placement of certain facial features and Charmcaster's leg was tricky too. I had to open the image to a wider shot to see what was off about it and figured since she's tall, she'd be crouching to get into the selfie. Let me know what you think. Of course, if you need to move on and can't be bothered looking at this again pay no mind to my rambling. It really, truly is a stunning piece of work already!
No.206858
Anonymous
Replies:>>206884
>>206856
>>206857
Hehe spot the difference. This is actually fun. There are subtle fixes in the second one like faces and how less stiff Ben looks.
No.206859
Anonymous
>>206856
>the new place I will be moving to this weekend.
Better place or just new place?
No.206860
Anonymous
>>206845
>Well it was originally going to be just Ben and Gwen, so Ben had the camera. The idea of giving Charmcaster the camera did give me a new Snapchat message idea so I gave it to her.

Thanks for listening! And hey, it's better with Charmcaster holding the cell phone after all. More natural. Can't wait to see what she texts us as a caption to her pic!
No.206861
Anonymous
Replies:>>206891
>>206845
>I do like the Gwen/Charmcaster dynamic, so I have been contemplating doing more Charmcaster.

She was in a few of your comic strips some years back making hilarious cameos. The rivalry with Gwen was there. Charmcaster's threatened by Gwen, not just because of the kid's natural aptitude and superior skills in sorcery, but for her jaw-dropping beauty as well. It's a weird dynamic that goes beyond a weird crush and into Single, White Female/ Fatal Attraction territory that's begging to be explored.
No.206862
Anonymous
Replies:>>206864
>>206857
Sorry anon but by the way you redesigned CC's legs she looks like she's about to take a shit.
No.206864
Anonymous
>>206862
It made more sense contextually when I sketched out the rest of the legs. The perspective is a tricky one. What is your obsession with poop anyhoo. This is you, right? >>206843
No.206867
Anonymous
>>206864
I guess truth hurts
No.206873
Anonymous
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>>206857
So... you made their butts bigger and made Charmcaster squatting on only one leg because the other is around Ben. Not sure why though.

Can't we assume that in Incog's picture Gwen and Lucy are kneeling? In fact, I think they are. Besides, Charmcaster never was so much taller than Ben & Gwen. I think her height well portrayed and, if it wasn't, bending your knees to look shorter in a picture is just as disrespectful as standing on your toes to look taller.
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No.206874
Anonymous
Replies:>>206881
>>206856
Incog where did the cum dripping out of Gwen's mouth go?
No.206875
Anonymous
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>>206873
Yeah I turned Ben's head around more towards us too and repositioned Charmcaster's nose and right eye. Her face was a little off in the mirror image. Arching Lucy's back (and pulling her shoulder back) was to add movement seeing as how she's in an excited bopping pose. Gwen's butt I gave more curve to draw more attention to it by having it occupy more space. And I think the only way to properly do Charmcaster's legs is to cut Gwen out, drawing how they would behave in a crouch position, then layering Gwen back on top. That's prolly what I should've done. Btw Charmcaster's legs are held together and not spread apart while in this crouch position. You know, like how girls do it.
No.206876
Anonymous
^Damn I can't delete that one to add another comment. You're right though, Charmcaster is not that much taller than them and wouldn't need to bend her knees so much. Which means Incog's way is the right way.
No.206877
Anonymous
Replies:>>206880
>>206856
Their lewd expressions, their eyes, their naked bodies.. the entire pic holds your attention. Gwen especially I can't stop staring at.
No.206878
Anonymous
Replies:>>206882
>>206875
Even though I guess that because of that picture it would be more realistic to put Charmcaster's legs like that, I'm afraid that those girls' legs look a little odd to me. Well, that's the good thing about cartoons. Everyone is fit there and everyone's legs look great.
No.206879
Anonymous
>>206845
>Since they were added last minute and nothing within the original figures was changed I knew things wouldn't be placed naturally.

It's one of your greatest so far. The selfie thing is intimate and makes us feel part of the action. It's very ambitious to draw four characters in a tight huddle from this perspective with what little time you had. I think you pulled it off, the results are pretty amazing.
No.206880
Anonymous
>>206877
>those girls' legs look a little odd
That's because those girls have nothing but fat in their thighs.

Oh, so you >>206875 are also >>206822, >>206824, >>206830, >>206857, >>206864 and >>206876.

I've never seen before someone complaining so much about one of Incog's pictures, not even the pledgers. If you're gonna keep being so picky, please read this post >>206251 so that you don't fill the remaining 30 posts of this thread by posting so much in a row.
No.206881
Anonymous
Replies:>>206883
>>206874
>Incog where did the cum dripping out of Gwen's mouth go?

Anon asking the right questions.
No.206882
Anonymous
Replies:>>206891
>>206878
It was the best example I could find to demonstrate closed, bent legs in a high-persepective selfie anon here >>206873 seemed to think I was making Charmcaster spread her legs in how I saw it. The camera's not so high in Incog's pic though, but I think it demonstrates how tricky it is to draw something so out of the ordinary. Incog challenging himself and testing his limits again, it's how he gets so good!
No.206883
Anonymous
Replies:>>206885
>>206881
>Anon asking the right questions.
That's fucking right. Guys in case you have forgotten, this is free stuff so stop with the "Can you give her more breasts? Can you make her butt bigger? Can you draw her dick-nipples?" shits and keep the comments in the "I like XXXX" and "You missed XXX / There's a mistake in XXX"
No.206884
Anonymous
>>206858
The Ben here >>206857 looks more relaxed. Legs are in a better position for the perspective too. Lucy's hand is bigger. You can see it more. The back of her head is bigger too.
No.206885
Anonymous
>>206883
Nah, that's not what this is about. Incog's a perfectionist. He welcomes critiques. I'd be too afraid to say anything to one of those ego artists. This is a group effort to make the thread starter great.
No.206891
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Just posted the new Ben 10 thread a bit ago. No image on this update since it is posted there, but I'll at least respond to comments here instead of waiting to bring them to the new thread. Sadly it was brought to my attention that I didn't change the name of the thread so hopefully someone can do that for me, but I do not know the password to delete it/reupload it.

>>206857
>Haha was just gonna say.. don't color it yet!! Not that it isn't so very, very close to perfect. But there were a few things bugging me about it. I knew you've been extremely time-poor lately so I took a closer look at it for you. The fixes probably aren't obvious until you overlay them. Minor things like Perspective, Ben's hip region, the definition on Lucy's shoulder, placement of certain facial features and Charmcaster's leg was tricky too. I had to open the image to a wider shot to see what was off about it and figured since she's tall, she'd be crouching to get into the selfie. Let me know what you think. Of course, if you need to move on and can't be bothered looking at this again pay no mind to my rambling. It really, truly is a stunning piece of work already!

Well I appreciate the help, but most things I did not really feel necessary. Lucy's shoulder was not defined because I feel doing so turned her body more profile than it was supposed to be. When viewed from above the shoulders just sort of merge into the body with less separation than a front/under/profile view would show. Also, Charmcaster is only about half to a full head taller than Ben/Gwen, although it's difficult to tell exactly due to animation variants and I don't have time to dig through episodes and try to find images of them side by side. As such I gave her a minor squatting post so that she could keep her chest/shoulders more in line with Ben's.

I also kept Ben the way he was for a few reasons. I fully intended for Ben to have his body bent back, but you brought him back forward. His dick was supposed to be pushed forward towards Gwen while his upper body was pushed back to better fit Charmcaster. Charmcaster pressing against him was also intended to be adding to slanting his body back. Also, the fixes to his legs made them a bit thicker than I feel they should be given the perspective. The angle due to perspective is actually pretty steep at that point, so much so that there is about a 45 degree angle between Ben's knees, although this is hidden behind Gwen's arm. Things are supposed to get smaller as we go down the image and the characters are already supposed to have very thin limbs as it is, so doing anything that would make them look thicker I feel would make them look off.

>>206861
>She was in a few of your comic strips some years back making hilarious cameos. The rivalry with Gwen was there. Charmcaster's threatened by Gwen, not just because of the kid's natural aptitude and superior skills in sorcery, but for her jaw-dropping beauty as well. It's a weird dynamic that goes beyond a weird crush and into Single, White Female/ Fatal Attraction territory that's begging to be explored.

Yeah, I remember the cameos in the past. I've actually been kind of wanting to do a long term web comic style series featuring Ben and Gwen while randomly bringing in other Ben 10 characters. These would be quick and just for fun so they would be in the format line in the older pieces I did featuring those two together, where it's just a long canvas with 4 or so panels. I would keep with consistency in these, but they would mostly just be 1-shot strips that just have a gag/punchline. This would, of course, be after I get things caught up, if I ever decide to do anything with it at all. It is also tempting to instead do this as a Loli Club thing, so that as 1/2-shot strips it would have more options for gags, but it is also tempting to go with something like Power Pack where there are more main character options for incest-filled fun. Regardless, these would only be after I have more time/am caught up, and only like 1-2 a month.

>>206873
>Can't we assume that in Incog's picture Gwen and Lucy are kneeling? In fact, I think they are. Besides, Charmcaster never was so much taller than Ben & Gwen. I think her height well portrayed and, if it wasn't, bending your knees to look shorter in a picture is just as disrespectful as standing on your toes to look taller.

Yeah, they would be on their knees. Charmcaster's knees are bent, but only to press her breast against Ben, which I don't feel he would mind.

>>206875
>Yeah I turned Ben's head around more towards us too and repositioned Charmcaster's nose and right eye. Her face was a little off in the mirror image. Arching Lucy's back (and pulling her shoulder back) was to add movement seeing as how she's in an excited bopping pose. Gwen's butt I gave more curve to draw more attention to it by having it occupy more space. And I think the only way to properly do Charmcaster's legs is to cut Gwen out, drawing how they would behave in a crouch position, then layering Gwen back on top. That's prolly what I should've done. Btw Charmcaster's legs are held together and not spread apart while in this crouch position. You know, like how girls do it.

I decided to keep his head bent back since I intended it as a way for him to make room for Charmcaster. I also didn't feel the need to arch Lucy back anymore since I still wanted to keep her body aimed at Ben. She was intended to be more turning/leaning back to look at the camera than to have her back arched. Also, lowering yourself even just a few inches to lean against someone gives very little stability/balance if you keep your knees together.

>>206876
>^Damn I can't delete that one to add another comment. You're right though, Charmcaster is not that much taller than them and wouldn't need to bend her knees so much. Which means Incog's way is the right way.

That, and with her leg coming forward a little bit I kept it a little away from Gwen so that she wouldn't be kneeing her in the side with how close they are together.

>>206882
>It was the best example I could find to demonstrate closed, bent legs in a high-persepective selfie anon here >206873 seemed to think I was making Charmcaster spread her legs in how I saw it. The camera's not so high in Incog's pic though, but I think it demonstrates how tricky it is to draw something so out of the ordinary. Incog challenging himself and testing his limits again, it's how he gets so good!

The girls in the example are actually standing upright with the girl on the left leaning forward a bit. Their picture is actually just taken from about eye level, with the camera held forward and not upward. Even the girl leaning forward ever so slightly has her legs spread apart a bit more since it is unnatural to lean with closed legs.
No.206893
Anonymous
>>206891
Honestly, it's awesome to see Charmcaster again. Nice boobage.
No.206894
Anonymous
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>>206891
>I didn't change the name of the thread so hopefully someone can do that for me, but I do not know the password to delete it/reupload it.
Well Incog, a tip for the next time is that your browser should remember whatever password you put to the post if you edit it, just like the username.
No.206895
Anonymous
>>206891
Beautiful pic Inocg! Definitely I have hope to see more Ben harem in future (it could be something like spin-off of loli club).
And I think that beside Charmcaster/Gwen, Charmcaster/Ben could also look cute together, they are enemies too after all, so there could be many options (for example, they both fighting, and Charmcaster uses spell that destroy Ben clothes and make him unconscious, but instead killing him, she fell in love with his beautiful smooth childish body, and take him to her home, to her bed...)

Forbidden love between enemies like them would be really hot, and age difference adds yet more hotness to it (And think about Gwen that comes to rescue Ben, but she finds her cousin fucking their enemy with face like the happiest boy on earth).
No.206898
Anonymous
>>206895
Huh... I see a few flaws in that plot. I'm not sure it's worth the amount of panelling that would need.
No.206900
Anonymous
Replies:>>206940
>>206891
So Incog, how is that thing you'd knew the 15th going?
No.206910
Anonymous
>>206895
I like this, because it involves Gwen rescuing Ben ;)
No.206911
Anonymous
Replies:>>206940
>>206891
>Well I appreciate the help, but most things I did not really feel necessary.

It all makes so much more sense and is much clearer after the color stages. I knew I felt stupid trying to school you! As always it's you who's taken me to school haha. Thanks for listening and for always being approachable :)
No.206922
Anonymous
>>206891
Incog, what advice would you give to someone who's going through though times?
No.206924
Anonymous
Replies:>>206925
>>206922
That's a good question many of us can relate to. I'm guessing "Keep calm and draw lolis" is applicable but I'm sure incog also gets his positive energy from the superhuman levels of Zen-like inner strength he has within him.
No.206925
Anonymous
>>206924
I can't draw :p
I was hoping for a more generalized advice.
No.206935
Anonymous
Replies:>>206940
>>206891
>Yeah, I remember the cameos in the past. I've actually been kind of wanting to do a long term web comic style series featuring Ben and Gwen while randomly bringing in other Ben 10 characters. These would be quick and just for fun so they would be in the format line in the older pieces I did featuring those two together, where it's just a long canvas with 4 or so panels. I would keep with consistency in these, but they would mostly just be 1-shot strips that just have a gag/punchline. This would, of course, be after I get things caught up, if I ever decide to do anything with it at all. It is also tempting to instead do this as a Loli Club thing, so that as 1/2-shot strips it would have more options for gags, but it is also tempting to go with something like Power Pack where there are more main character options for incest-filled fun. Regardless, these would only be after I have more time/am caught up, and only like 1-2 a month.

I love everything you said here. Every word is magic. I would definitely pick both Ben 10 and Power Pack series (can't decide), for the "more main character options for incest-filled fun" as you put it. Gaahh incog my mouth is watering!
No.206936
Anonymous
>>206895
Or Charmcaster use the spell "Auferte Vestimenta"(remove clothes in latin) to remove Ben and Gwen clothes wile they are in a public area to embarrass and shame them.

She later fuck them.
No.206937
Anonymous
>>206936
I like that this gets straight to the point!
No.206940
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

No drawings at this point, and likely no drawings until Sunday. I will try and have a sketch tonight before bed, but that is very unlikely with what I have planned today and tomorrow combined with the fact I'll have to be up first thing. Tomorrow is the day of the big move where everything has to be done by the end of the day, plus it just so happens to be on a day where I have had another all day appointment for over a month now. To speed things up moving tomorrow I will be filling up my car to move a few things today while out on the road so that will eat up a bit of my time. I'll keep ya'll updated, but odds are Saturday will be too busy even to update.

I will also be putting a post on my Patreon in a minute to discuss the possibility of higher pledge tiers. I am really desperate to get the last of my issues resolved as soon as possible, which pretty much sums up to getting another vehicle. If I can do that I should be able to free up a lot of time to dedicate to drawing, even be able to drop time at work with how much money everyone here will finally have coming in, so even just a few increased pledges will help greatly in speeding things up. Heck, if I then add enough to reach certain goals already posted on my page I could even potentially quit my job and draw all the time. I will post the details for discussion to my patrons first, since I really do want to offer first dibs on anything to current patrons that have already been supporting me all this time despite everything.

>>206894
>Well Incog, a tip for the next time is that your browser should remember whatever password you put to the post if you edit it, just like the username.

I've never had anything but problems trying to get browsers to remember passwords so I just gave up on that. I'll just have to try and remember to put a password in each time.

>>206900
>So Incog, how is that thing you'd knew the 15th going?

Actually going well, but at the same time there are a few things that will be temporarily bad for me until things are a bit better. Things are going well in that I know I will be fully moved tomorrow. This will mean finally having my own space again, so no more sharing a small living room with someone. Additionally, we are moving to a much better place that is much more well maintained, so we will no longer have a shady landlord shaking us down for every penny we make. For the last of the good news, everyone has a job now, and someone that only had a part-time job at the moment has officially gotten a full-time job starting Monday. This should be quite a burst of money as they will be working a full-time and part-time job for 2 weeks while they give the part-time place their 2 week notice.

Minor bad news is that my time will be occupied a bit as things get settled in. This will likely just eat a lot of time this weekend, then minor amounts of time next week, so this isn't really a big deal. The real bad news about all of this is that my car is the only car, and I'm not trusting anyone else with the vehicle that everyone, including myself, relies on. As such I have more driving, and for the next 2 weeks I have to get 2 people to 3 different jobs on top of getting myself to my own. This means the rest of this month may suffer additional slowing down, but these issues will be resolved indefinitely when we are able to get an additional vehicle. Getting an additional vehicle as soon as possible is really why I want to set up additional pledge tiers for a bit. An additional $400 or so would be a huge boon to receive early next month, and having a second vehicle could prevent potential disaster for everyone if something were to happen to the one we are using. There is a high chance of something happening over the next few weeks giving how many hours a day my car will be on the road.

>>206911
>It all makes so much more sense and is much clearer after the color stages. I knew I felt stupid trying to school you! As always it's you who's taken me to school haha. Thanks for listening and for always being approachable :)

Well I could see what you were going for in the changes. Ben's posture could have looked a bit more relaxed, especially after it was decided he was no longer holding the camera up, but I felt there were enough other variables in the picture leading to his posture that it wasn't necessary to change it. The other changes made sense, but they assumed about a 30 degree variance in the perspective. It really is difficult to tell how things will look between lines/colors, plus it can be difficult to tell how perspective is affecting things when characters are cropped/no background is added. I myself generally make a lot of adjustments to the lines while coloring since it becomes much more apparent when thing are off a bit when areas defined by color/value are not lining up properly.

>>206922
>Incog, what advice would you give to someone who's going through though times?

It's difficult to give direct advice without knowing details. You talking financial troubles? Difficulty with family/relations? I could go on a very long rant about the things that help me, but I don't really have a lot of time to do so. I could maybe do so come around Sunday, but for now I'd like to be direct and to the point as opposed to a long list of generalizations that work for me in my situation. Just a generalization of the "tough times" in question would suffice, like "Supporting a family and financial difficulties are stressing me out". I would offer much different advice in that situation than I would someone saying "Living by myself and having a tough time paying my bills".

>>206935
>I love everything you said here. Every word is magic. I would definitely pick both Ben 10 and Power Pack series (can't decide), for the "more main character options for incest-filled fun" as you put it. Gaahh incog my mouth is watering!

Power Pack would be fun, but I was thinking Ben 10 would be fun to do by following the actual content of the show. By this I mean watch the first episode, and every idea I get while watching the episode I could just note down and screen cap the scene, then hold onto all of the saved content for future strips. This would make them quicker as I would have set backgrounds for reference and the scenario would already be planned out, just with more sexual context applied. If I were able to free up all of my time soon this is a project I would likely try to pick up, although I still would not want it to interfere with actual comic projects so it would still be only a couple to a few updates a month.

>>206936
>Or Charmcaster use the spell "Auferte Vestimenta"(remove clothes in latin) to remove Ben and Gwen clothes wile they are in a public area to embarrass and shame them.

Any consistent introduction done for Charmcaster would definitely follow where Charmcaster swapped bodies with Gwen to infiltrate the team. All it would take is Ben going for their usual 'activities', and Charmcaster having to go along with it to not make Ben suspicious that something is up.
No.206941
Anonymous
>>206940
>Any consistent introduction done for Charmcaster would definitely follow where Charmcaster swapped bodies with Gwen to infiltrate the team. All it would take is Ben going for their usual 'activities', and Charmcaster having to go along with it to not make Ben suspicious that something is up.

Oh that's genius. That is just a hot idea.
No.206942
Anonymous
Replies:>>206948
>>206940
Sounds like a weekend of hard labor. Look after yourself bro. Bend your knees when you lift. Regular breaks!
No.206943
Anonymous
Replies:>>206948
>>206940
>Getting an additional vehicle as soon as possible is really why I want to set up additional pledge tiers for a bit. An additional $400 or so would be a huge boon to receive early next month,

Tier me. Hit me with it. Would be glad to help.
No.206944
Anonymous
Replies:>>206948
>>206940
Nah something whit the real Charmcater would be better and there already an comic by fixxxer about charmcaster and gwen swiched bodies. and a couple of fan fics using that theme.
No.206948
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Since this thread is dead I'll be more willing to update here more often without images until I make a new one. I just finished making changes to my Patreon page. Took forever since I had to keep stopping to do things like give rides and such. I posted a topic that all current patrons can see to bring up my current consideration and will try and put anything I decide on into place on this upcoming Monday. I have too much going on this weekend to do much so I wanted to post it today to give a couple days for people to give feedback while I'm too busy to do anything otherwise.

>>206942
>Sounds like a weekend of hard labor. Look after yourself bro. Bend your knees when you lift. Regular breaks!

Well it will not be that bad. There's really not a lot to move. I own so little that I can fit everything I personally own, including my desk/bed, in a single 4 door sedan in a single trip. Other people have some things that need moving, but the only actually heavy thing is a double recliner, but even that's not too heavy with 2 people. Sadly regular breaks will not be an option since I have to have everything moved in a 4 hour time frame so that I can get to something else that has been planned for tomorrow well before moving on that day was a thing.

>>206943
>Tier me. Hit me with it. Would be glad to help.

Well I opened up discussion on my Patreon page. The current consideration is the $100 tier mentioned prior with up to 4 characters, fully colored, with background, but I'm open to discussion on it. I just have to keep into consideration the idea that I need to minimize the amount that I do in order to not interfere with current flow too much given that time will be tight for a few weeks. Anyone interested in what I mentioned can feel free to comment here, message me via Patreon or to send me an email at [email protected] Just keep in mind that this is via Patreon only as I will not have the time to deal with the potential hassle of coordinating financially through other means.

>>206944
>Nah something whit the real Charmcater would be better and there already an comic by fixxxer about charmcaster and gwen swiched bodies. and a couple of fan fics using that theme.

Well Charmcaster in her real body would join in later. The point would be for that to be the ideal way to initially bring her in.
No.206951
Anonymous
>>206948
All the best with moving into the new place man, and with the new tiers. Will be slow at first, but should snowball soon, give it time ;)
No.206952
Anonymous
Ouch, so this happened >>206917

Its one of the last posts from the last Ben 10 thread. Not saying you'd do anything like that, but is it possible for a pledger to do it to you? Like, could they pledge, then retract their payment AFTER you've drawn and shared the pic?
No.206953
Anonymous
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the loli club is making a lot of money selling this game
No.206954
Anonymous
Replies:>>207016
>>206948
I guess there's a reason behind but is it uncommon in the USA to take the bus to go to work or the people you're taking have to go outside town and there are no buses going there?
No.206956
Anonymous
Replies:>>207016
>>206952
This is easy to avoid. Incog has to add a rule saying "The guaranteed pictures are done at the start of the month."
Patreon pays the 1st of the month so Incog can see who has tried to trick the system and then decide which picture to draw the 2nd

>>206940
A few family issues has led me to simply being kicked out of college, which of course will lead to some serious family issues in the immediate future. I guess I'll breath and plan my year cause I've just gone from student to unemployed.
No.206959
Anonymous
>>206953
I would play that for the RPG element :D
No.206960
Anonymous
>>206953
Puh-leaze. Incog's stuff should be only available for the PC master race.
No.206961
Anonymous
Replies:>>206962
>>206948
>Well Charmcaster in her real body would join in later. The point would be for that to be the ideal way to initially bring her in.

Would you consider other family members for the comic strips as mentioned here incog >>206958

Ben also has another cousin, Sunny, a raven-haired minx, who hasn't got a canon loli form as such, but I'm sure you could take liberties with her design. It'd be awesome if his harem was comprised of mostly Tennysons, wincest is best XD
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Anonymous
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>>206961
Well bobsan imagined what loli Sunny would look like. She's a babe of course.
No.206967
Anonymous
>>206953
They're gonna make a lot from the calendar too. Soon, an official underwear line :3
No.206971
Anonymous
>>206948
>I opened up discussion on my Patreon page. The current consideration is the $100 tier mentioned prior with up to 4 characters, fully colored, with background, but I'm open to discussion on it.

Keep it that way and don't sell yourself short. Everyone knows that you need the money and everyone knows your work always exceeds expectations.
No.206972
Anonymous
>>www.patreon.com/Incognitymous

It's looking great. They're good rates man. You may think you're charging too much but your price is a bargain compared to the inferior work of so many others. Yours is a product of a high quality. At least give it a few months, see how you cope with the workload. Just hope you get to share everything you work so hard on, and that you get the time to draw some of the projects you've always wanted to see realised.
No.206973
Anonymous
Also, since pledges don't get charged until the first of the month, you could just edit your pledge levels now, get a sense for how much interest there actually is, and if there isn't enough/too much you can maybe adjust (while talking to those people who already pledged so they can adjust)
No.206975
Anonymous
Replies:>>207017
>>206973
I can definitely see it heading into the direction of incog drawing up to 4 of the big ones per month (if he really needs the money during that time). The worst case scenario of that is it could create a backlog of work if people expect theirs to get done that month but then have to wait because Incog's time only allows for two to be done at that (busy with life matters) period, but that's only if business ever picks up to a ridiculous point, and even if it does, people would be pretty patient in waiting to get their very own custom Incog drawing.
No.206977
Anonymous
Replies:>>207017
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Incog would you be able to do something involving ballet dancing? All that flexibility is hot as hell.
No.206978
Anonymous
Replies:>>207017
>>206940
>This will mean finally having my own space again, so no more sharing a small living room with someone. Additionally, we are moving to a much better place that is much more well maintained, so we will no longer have a shady landlord shaking us down for every penny we make.

This is great news. How goes the move man? Finally you have a studio! You'll be using your talent to make a living soon :)
No.206984
Anonymous
Replies:>>207017
>>206940
>Additionally, we are moving to a much better place that is much more well maintained, so we will no longer have a shady landlord shaking us down for every penny we make.
Did you use the Real Green Gobbler in the bathroom before leaving?
No.207016
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here is the sketch for the final page of the current $10 Power Pack request. Finally all done sketching this out and can begin finishing it. I am finally all moved into my new place, although some stuff in my room still requires organizing but I stopped to do an update. I have a few more issues to resolve tomorrow, and still have the normally expected distractions, but I will hopefully have the first page lined by the end of tomorrow.

>>206952
>Its one of the last posts from the last Ben 10 thread. Not saying you'd do anything like that, but is it possible for a pledger to do it to you? Like, could they pledge, then retract their payment AFTER you've drawn and shared the pic?

It would be possible, but as others have stated I will have to begin the images after pledges are accepted on the first of the month. If I were to do so any sooner then people would indeed be able to drop out before payment is processed, so requests made this month would not be done until payment has processed on the first of August.

>>206954
>I guess there's a reason behind but is it uncommon in the USA to take the bus to go to work or the people you're taking have to go outside town and there are no buses going there?

No buses go where I live. Very few areas around here have any public transportation, and those areas are very south of me. Calling a taxi would be pretty much an entire paycheck in a single day, so that's out of the question.

>>206956
>A few family issues has led me to simply being kicked out of college, which of course will lead to some serious family issues in the immediate future. I guess I'll breath and plan my year cause I've just gone from student to unemployed.

Well I can say from experience that college is a bit misleading for most people. I'm not sure what you were going for, but keep in mind that a lot of degrees are a trap. Society likes to tell people that if they need to go to college and get a degree in whatever they like, and that from there they'll be able to step out and get a high paying job. The problem with this is that a lot of degrees these days have no real prospects in most areas. I've worked jobs for barely over minimum wage where I have a new high school graduate to my left and someone with a bachelor's degree to my right. Think of this as a chance to truly think about what you were aiming for and what your first steps should actually be.

If your family did something intentionally malicious to ruin things for you, then perhaps getting a job and becoming more independent of them should be your first priority before seeking a college. If you budget properly it actually costs a hell of a lot less to live than most people realize, and in my experience a lone person can easily survive off of even minimum wage without any concern. As long as you invest finances earned in bettering your situation and minimize expenses towards things you do not really need then it should not take too long to pick yourself up...as long as you avoid picking up extra baggage like I have made the mistake of doing.

If you are worried that being out of college will set you back, remember that college is not the only way to learn, and that already having extensive knowledge in your field of study upon seeking a college will greatly increase your chances at admittance. I myself went to an art college, but I am not going to lie and say that I do not mostly regret the decision. Yeah, I learned a bit that I did not know at the time, but I learned far more from studying from books/online and personal application than I did from any instructors. Heck, just the series of books by Andrew Loomis taught me far more than I gained from the years I spent in college. We live in an age of information, and seeing as how you are able to come here to post I would assume you have access to this information. No matter what field you consider entering there is far more that can be learned here on the internet than there is in any college or university.

The main reason I would advise self study prior to any college is to truly assess what you are aiming for. For example, I went directly to an art school after high school, but I did not really have an aim for my degree. When I thought about it I did not really have full expectation of where I would go afterwards. What one should consider when going to college is not what degree to get, but where they want to go. I wanted to be an artist, but I didn't have a direct aim such as web design, comics, animation, 3D, 2D, concept design, etc. I was simply learning and doing work without direction, which was leading to a degree that wouldn't really get me anywhere. To make matters worse, I quickly learned that I did not really enjoy drawing anything as much as I did pornographic material. This made it quite apparent that a college degree was not really going to be a big help in getting me a job in what I actually enjoyed doing, as there is no degree aimed at being a 34 artist, so I pretty much decided I would have to make income from doing other things while I practiced doing what I enjoyed in my own time.

Where I am pretty much getting with this is that getting kicked out of college may not be as bad as you think. Try to study/practice the field you were aiming for in your own time. Get a feel for if you can motivate yourself to learn the subject without someone forcing you to do so. If you quickly begin to dread the idea of applying yourself towards it then think about whether or not aiming for that work would have even been worthwhile to you. If you really apply yourself it is not difficult to find a job with room for advancement without a degree.

Considering this, look at the actual job prospects of the degree you were aiming for and the average income bracket you can expect from it. Does getting a 2/4/6/whatever year degree for the field have an expected income that would be more than dedicating an equivalent amount of years in the actual work force, receiving raises/benefits/advancements? Truly consider how much you enjoy the work and compare it to what you can expect to make.

Keep in mind that most people in this world encounter issues at least as bad as what you are going through now. For your problem, as long as you put in effort to make things better they will get better as long as you do not get in your own way. Society will tell you that you have to take off immediately, but doing so generally leads to people walking blindly into bigger problems in the future. Take things one step at a time so that you can properly evaluate each step before you take it. Dedicating years of your life to college only to obtain a worthless degree, or a degree in something that has become dreadful but that you now feel obliged to pursue, could prove to be far more damaging to your mental health in the long run than the situation you are going through now.
No.207017
Incognitymous
Comment was too long so here's the rest of my post:

>>206973
>Also, since pledges don't get charged until the first of the month, you could just edit your pledge levels now, get a sense for how much interest there actually is, and if there isn't enough/too much you can maybe adjust (while talking to those people who already pledged so they can adjust)

That is what I am likely going to do soon. I just wanted to discuss with my patrons to see how they felt about the situation and to allow them the option to reserve something first if they so wanted.

>>206975
>I can definitely see it heading into the direction of incog drawing up to 4 of the big ones per month (if he really needs the money during that time). The worst case scenario of that is it could create a backlog of work if people expect theirs to get done that month but then have to wait because Incog's time only allows for two to be done at that (busy with life matters) period, but that's only if business ever picks up to a ridiculous point, and even if it does, people would be pretty patient in waiting to get their very own custom Incog drawing.

The possibly of falling behind is why I want to do as few pieces as possible for now. I considered doing more smaller pieces, but I feel potential problems in life as well as the increased time spent keeping up communication with said patrons increases risk as I increase the amount of pieces I must finish.

>>206977
>Incog would you be able to do something involving ballet dancing? All that flexibility is hot as hell.

I don't see why not. I'm sure that's something I could give a try some time in the future.

>>206978
>This is great news. How goes the move man? Finally you have a studio! You'll be using your talent to make a living soon :)

All done moving, although I do need to sift through some boxes of stuff to clean my actual room up. I wouldn't really call what I have a studio as it is very shoddy right now (I don't even have an actual desk...), but I guess it's better than what I had before.

>>206984
>Did you use the Real Green Gobbler in the bathroom before leaving?

Sadly I decided against any sabotage solely because I do plan to take legal action against the landlord so I wanted to make sure he could not have anything actually against us.
No.207018
Anonymous
>>207016
Lucky kid. Nothing could be more satisfying than filling your sister's ass with sperm.
No.207028
Anonymous
>>207016
Hehe love that ending!!
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Anonymous
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>>207016
>Here is the sketch for the final page of the current $10 Power Pack request. Finally all done sketching this out and can begin finishing it. I am finally all moved into my new place, although some stuff in my room still requires organizing but I stopped to do an update. I have a few more issues to resolve tomorrow, and still have the normally expected distractions, but I will hopefully have the first page lined by the end of tomorrow.

Yes! This story is by far one of your kinkiest yet. I can feel the sibling love triangle forming already. Glad to hear the move went well. Take your time with settling in, Jack and Julie's lines can wait :)
No.207031
Anonymous
>>207016
>I quickly learned that I did not really enjoy drawing anything as much as I did pornographic material.
Huh... so does that mean that you wouldn't be interested in suggestive sexual SFW requests?
No.207032
Anonymous
>>207016
Thanks for the input, it’s really been helpful.

I’ve ended up realizing that, from my experience, college is 60% sucking up and 40% work, and I don’t like sucking up to the professors. I’ll pursue getting a job so that I don’t have any economic dependence on my family which I personally don’t feel like seeing anytime soon, and ask a few friends who are working as freelance precisely in what I was studying.

By the way, Incog. You might want to check if someone is looking for artist for projects like this.
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/g578c3c8105ae3/Sex-game-cancelled-despite-US-42k-a-month-from-Patreon/
Sure, that one went totally wrong but it’s just an example.
No.207033
Anonymous
>>207032
>http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/g578c3c8105ae3/Sex-game-cancelled-despite-US-42k-a-month-from-Patreon/

42.000 bucks per month for a poorly designed game. Sigh. That money could be invested on someone more talented. Wink, wink.

What would you do with so much monthly money Incog? I'd open a reserve for abandoned pets, that stuff breaks my heart everytime.
No.207035
Anonymous
>>207031
I'm sure he can do SFW cheesecake pinups too, just fund him bro. There'd be less of a thrill in creating it though, I imagine drawing a pic of Gwen topless would get the heart racing far more than drawing her clothed ever would ^_~
No.207036
Anonymous
Replies:>>207039
>>207033
>http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/g578c3c8105ae3/Sex-game-cancelled-despite-US-42k-a-month-from-Patreon/

Interesting read. That guy was a hustler! The complete opposite of incog. Shame too because the game was genius. Weird as fuck don't get me wrong, but visually it showed signs of promise. What a waste!
No.207039
Anonymous
Replies:>>207042
>>207036
Yeah, so my point is that perphaps Incog could try getting in contact with whatever game projects out there.
No.207042
Anonymous
Replies:>>207072
>>207039
He's not really into playing hentai games nor does the thought of making them appeal to him as I recall, right incog? Those are long-form commitment things that not many people could deal with working on for very long as we've seen in that link you shared.
No.207043
Anonymous
Replies:>>207072
>>207016
Oh shit..did Jack and Julie just become fuck buddies? The plot thickens..
No.207047
Anonymous
Replies:>>207072
>>207032
It's a different world to the ones our forefathers lived in. Education is great and all but is becoming more exclusive and comes with no job guarantees like incog said if you do end up getting that degree. My advice is to become the boss of something by 30. Find a job you're good at or love doing and then excel at it. Be the best you can be at it and work towards reaching the top of it AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. That way you're living comfortably by 40. The timeline is important if you want to be able to have enough money that you can travel and play with it past a certain age. For most people raising a family will happen around 30-40, sometimes earlier, whether you like it or not, which is why it's important to be the boss of where you work by then. Sounds like stupid, very general advice but it's the advice I would have given my 20 year-old self. Stop fucking around and climb to the top. It doesn't have to be a chore, just make self-betterment a hobby.
No.207051
Anonymous
>>207017
>I don't see why not. I'm sure that's something I could give a try some time in the future.

Ballet is just so quinessentially loli. Just need a character who would look hot in a leotard. Oh, an no tutus, we don't need those in the way :P
No.207053
Anonymous
Replies:>>207072
>>207017
>All done moving, although I do need to sift through some boxes of stuff to clean my actual room up. I wouldn't really call what I have a studio as it is very shoddy right now (I don't even have an actual desk...), but I guess it's better than what I had before.

As long as you've got privacy, personal space and a mini bar filled with energy drinks and assorted snacks. You got yourself a bachelor pad bro!
No.207072
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for page 1 of the current Power Pack request. Just 3 more to go. Going to try and finish this as quickly as possible so that hopefully I have about a week to do some more Wanda and Pietro. Not sure what I am going to do about making a new thread here on /pco/ but we'll see. I may just have to make it with any image or just tough it out in this dead thread until the month is over.

Also, I will be going to work soon, but I am about to go make the new pledge tier on my Patreon page before doing so. I'll see how that goes once I get home.

>>207031
>Huh... so does that mean that you wouldn't be interested in suggestive sexual SFW requests?

Oh, that would still be fine. I also do not mind drawing non-34 stuff on occasion. Mainly I just like drawing 34 material. "Ecchi" stuff is just fine.

>>207032
>Thanks for the input, it’s really been helpful.

Glad it proved helpful. Just felt like giving what I've learned from my own personal experience.

>I’ve ended up realizing that, from my experience, college is 60% sucking up and 40% work, and I don’t like sucking up to the professors. I’ll pursue getting a job so that I don’t have any economic dependence on my family which I personally don’t feel like seeing anytime soon, and ask a few friends who are working as freelance precisely in what I was studying.

That is probably a smart move. Economic dependence is an important aspect of personal advancement. It is fine to accept help from supportive people around you, just never rely on them too much or things could turn out poorly very quickly. A problem I have is that I have allowed too many people to rely on me for too long, so now I am at a point that if I were to dip out or fall myself for any reason then everyone would end up completely ruined. As long as you are self reliant and take advancement into whatever it is you would like to do seriously then you'll get somewhere eventually. I'm not going to preach that anyone can do anything as long as they put their all into it, as reality is not that nice, so also try and stay aware of your limitations. An important part of being independent is to not put all of your eggs into one basket.

>By the way, Incog. You might want to check if someone is looking for artist for projects like this.
>http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/g578c3c8105ae3/Sex-game-cancelled-despite-US-42k-a-month-from-Patreon/
>Sure, that one went totally wrong but it’s just an example.

I have considered looking into something like funded projects in the past. Never really considered the game aspect, but to instead see if there was anything like fun comic projects or something. Now that Patreon exists though creators have a place to try and get started by themselves so that is something I would rather be able to do.

>>207033
>What would you do with so much monthly money Incog? I'd open a reserve for abandoned pets, that stuff breaks my heart everytime.

I don't even know...I would definitely donate a lot of it as I feel that would be way too much money hitting the bank every month for just one person. Really, the first thing that comes to mind if I were to donate though would be to help out the 34 community by handing out some tablet monitors/computer hardware after upgrading to the top of the line equipment myself... I've spent most of my time in the past drawing on low end tablets/hardware, but using a good (not great) tablet monitor has made a tremendous difference.

>>207042
>He's not really into playing hentai games nor does the thought of making them appeal to him as I recall, right incog? Those are long-form commitment things that not many people could deal with working on for very long as we've seen in that link you shared.

Yeah, that's right. Not only have I never really been too into hentai games, it is also something that requires a lot of time/dedication, and/or a lot of coordination with a group of people with assigned tasks. It only takes one bad apple to make the whole experience a nightmare.

>>207043
>Oh shit..did Jack and Julie just become fuck buddies? The plot thickens..

Indeed they did...

>>207047
>It's a different world to the ones our forefathers lived in. Education is great and all but is becoming more exclusive and comes with no job guarantees like incog said if you do end up getting that degree. My advice is to become the boss of something by 30. Find a job you're good at or love doing and then excel at it.

Agreed. I'm not going to say that an advanced education is a waste, especially for the select degeres that really do have great prospects. Sadly, however, the system likes to push too many degrees that don't really go anywhere. I know people who went for Master's/Bachelor's degrees, got a job in their work field, and only make a few thousand more dollars a year than people that got into some factory job. The difference is that while they do make a few thousand more dollars a year, the people that started working early do not have massive debts following them, have seniority/vacations/401k/whatever other benefits built up in their place of employment whereas the people out of college/university are just starting off entry level.

>>207047
>Stop fucking around and climb to the top. It doesn't have to be a chore, just make self-betterment a hobby.

This. You don't have to climb to the top necessarily, unless that is really where you would like to be, but I do agree that self-betterment should be turned into a hobby. Unless you are looking to be a professional gamer, 6-8 hours of gaming a day is not going to help you get where you would like to be. Try to find something productive to do in your free time that could later be turned into a career.

If you would rather do extensive gaming sessions or partying instead, which really I feel there is nothing wrong with, be realistic about your future while doing so. Don't expect to be able to be self dependent, while going to a college/university, while having fun all day gaming or partying or whatever it is you would like to do. If you are not worried about advancing financially and are fine enjoying life while making enough to get by, any standard 8 hour entry level job will work as long as you continue to keep your eyes open for advancement opportunities. College is not the only way to advance since there are still many employers out there who would rather see a stable work history.

>>207053
>As long as you've got privacy, personal space and a mini bar filled with energy drinks and assorted snacks. You got yourself a bachelor pad bro!

Yeah, I've got all of those things now outside of the energy drinks and assorted snacks. I don't even drink soda so energy drinks are out. I'm all about saving money so I just eat my normal meals without any real snacking and drink mostly water.
No.207074
Anonymous
>>207072
>I'm all about saving money so I just eat my normal meals without any real snacking and drink mostly water.

Try some hot chocolate. Even with the summer heat, that always cheers me up.
No.207078
Anonymous
Replies:>>207138
>>207072
Wonderful lines incog. Maybe the sketches for this were rougher than usual for this but everything is so much more defined after this.
No.207079
Anonymous
Replies:>>207138
I'm not the guy with the question but I very much appreciate learning from all your life experience incog. It's natural for threads to evolve into something more but it's thanks to your care and time in dispensing advice that these discussions can hopefully help someone with the direction they'll take. Not every artist would stop what they're doing and take time from their busy schedule to help a stranger like you do. You're one of a kind.
No.207085
Anonymous
Replies:>>207092
>>207072
I wonder how jealous Katie would be they are doing all this without her.
No.207086
Anonymous
Replies:>>207099
>>207072
>Also, I will be going to work soon, but I am about to go make the new pledge tier on my Patreon page before doing so. I'll see how that goes once I get home.

You'll do great. All we gotta do is spread the word. So far only your fans know about it. A Gwen infographic as suggested here >>206182 could advertise these tiers. That could go viral in the community very easily.
No.207088
Anonymous
>>207072
>I don't even know...I would definitely donate a lot of it as I feel that would be way too much money hitting the bank every month for just one person.

Haha don't do that. Save it for if times get tough again. You never know, a couple of grand sitting in the bank accumulates interest a few years later. Boom, you're living off the interest alone. Best case scenario.
No.207092
Anonymous
>>207085
Katie's totally seducing Alex in the living room.
No.207098
Anonymous
How's the workload so far incog, manageable? And are they starlets in your repertoire? Or obscure anime unknowns?
No.207099
Anonymous
Replies:>>207101
>>207086
>A Gwen infographic

Yes! Just like when you did those short comics where Gwen asked Ben to start a ben10 thread! Do one of those, post the url to your patreon in r34 and lie back to wait for the pledgers.
No.207101
Anonymous
Replies:>>207105
>>207099
He literally doesn't have to even do that. Once he posts it here, it will be shared everywhere. It will be treated like all his other art, but with some extra info on it. If done right, people won't even realise it's an infomercial.
No.207103
Anonymous
>>207072
>I don't even know...I would definitely donate a lot of it as I feel that would be way too much money hitting the bank every month for just one person. Really, the first thing that comes to mind if I were to donate though would be to help out the 34 community by handing out some tablet monitors/computer hardware after upgrading to the top of the line equipment myself... I've spent most of my time in the past drawing on low end tablets/hardware, but using a good (not great) tablet monitor has made a tremendous difference.

I realize we're effectively discussing how to spend imaginary lottery winnings, but if you really want to help out the 34 community (and loli community) more than tablets/gear for individual people, what it really needs is someone to fund a place where artists can post all erotic work, loli or not, 34 or not, like what HF USED to be. No need to worry about advertisers pulling out, buy your own servers in a country where it's legal and let people be (I mean, there are some places sort of like that but they're all small scale and mostly focused on one niche like loli, what the community needs is a place that stands for the principle of artistic freedom and coexistence that all are welcome.
No.207104
Anonymous
>>207103
That's short-term though. Surely it'll get pulled down by crusaders sooner or later. And what does incog get out of it.
No.207105
Anonymous
>>207101
I'm afraid it's not like that. In rule34 it almost never gets tagged properly and it usually lacks the url leading here or to his patreon. I bet 90% of the rule34 community doesn't know incog has a patreon.
No.207106
Anonymous
Replies:>>207125
>>207103
That's legally risky. I wouldn't go that way.
No.207108
Anonymous
Replies:>>207138
>>207072
Well, now that the thread is being buried we can get a little off-topic.

Yo Incog, with the extra money you're gonna get by the 1st you should buy a good amazing comfortable pillow to rest properly and a good lamp or something illumination related to make sure your sight doesn't get tired while drawing.

And sugary products. Nothing raises the spirits more than some sugar. This guy >>207074 is on it.
No.207109
Anonymous
The Gwen infographic thing seems like a really good idea

>>207105
He can put url in the drawing or just in Gwen's dialogue, simple like that
No.207113
Anonymous
>>207105
I try and leave his patreon address in the comments section whenever someone asks if he does comissions. Only when they ask for it though, just so it doesn't come across as spammy. Gotta stay classy.
No.207114
Anonymous
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>>207105
Well this infographic is by Destijl and it's on his paheal gallery (Pic related). It obviously doesn't apply anymore being a few years old. Point being it was shared on paheal just like regular porn. Incog's pamphlet/ brochure/ infographic would be similar, just with Gwen talking us through the rates. Heck it could be written on the clothing of her outfit, with information about each tier becoming legible as she strips off each garment and throws it towards the viewer, ie: her training bra would have info about the $10 tier... the back of her panties would have "100 for up to 3 figures, full lines/colors with background" on them, being the last item of clothing she'll remove for us. Just an idea. If that sounds awkward maybe she could just talk to us casually and you could relay the info through her speech bubbles. That could be interesting because you could pull out a few of your girls to demonstrate multiple character tiers then color one panel with them in it to demonstrate the color tier.
No.207115
Anonymous
>>207105
>In rule34 it almost never gets tagged properly and it usually lacks the url leading here or to his patreon.

Not much to it. Obviously the ad would have the necessary information and contact details on it. It should be pretty straightforward. I've seen so many artists use the patreon logo on their work too, most recently Dankwart in his amazing Gwen pics >>205236 / >>205237. That basically lets people know that you're services are available there.
No.207117
Anonymous
>>207115
No, Incog doesn't like adding signatures to his pics. What I'm saying is simply filling the "Source" textbox paheal rule34 has. It's always blank.
No.207119
Anonymous
Replies:>>207124
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>>207117
That, and also something like this
No.207123
Anonymous
>>207117
It'll be an info-comic. No signatures. Just patreon web url which will be said in a speech bubble. Subtle and understated. Gwen will be the star of it.
No.207124
Anonymous
>>207119
I fucking loved these. They were talking about us. It was like we were involved, like in Neverending Story. Breaking the fourth wall is exactly what you should do in the ad incog!
No.207125
Anonymous
Replies:>>207127
>>207106
Yeah I like that incog is low key. Keeps him out of trouble.
No.207127
Anonymous
>>207125
Its not good to be low key if you want to make a living off art. Bad artists can make thousands a month just through getting their name out.
No.207128
Anonymous
Replies:>>207130
>>207127
>Bad artists can make thousands a month just through getting their name out.

This is so fucking true. I can't believe people whose art is closer to horrendous than appealing charge $60 per comission and it's even more astounding the fact that people request them stuff.
No.207129
Anonymous
Replies:>>207130
The Guaranteed Picture pledge is at 2 of 4 on the first day. If any of you wanna get a slot you better hurry lol.
No.207130
Anonymous
>>207129
I hope it fills for incog's sake.

>>207128
There are a lot of things that go into a comm artist and a lot of that doesn't have much to do with quality. Popularity is a big one. Just being well known can get you a lot of business. Also, cultivating an audience by filling a niche, or being well known for doing popular content can get a lot of business. Like how Incase is very well known for both traps and short stacks got him a lot of attention, though he is also pretty damned good. Or how some artists get a lot of attention because they draw popular shows like Star Vs.

Or artists just have a very friendly system of income. Like I know some artists that take stream commissions. So you pay up front, and they draw your comm right there in a stream for you, so you get the comm and some entertainment.

I mean, if you can make people know who you are, and give them a convenient option for giving you money, that goes a long fucking way. Knowing enough artists to "know" what a good value for your money is can be daunting. I've spent over a year since I started buying comms off artists hunting down every commission friendly artist I can find, and there are still countless out there I know nothing about.

Incog not being very well known outside other loli artists and fans of his work isn't a good thing for him if he wants to make a steady income off his art.
No.207131
Anonymous
>>207130
Power corrupts, dude. I like the fact that Incog sort of shrugs at his fame.
No.207132
Anonymous
Replies:>>207133
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>>207130
>popular shows like Star Vs.
(Shudders) I don't know what people see in that show. Sure, some episodes are fun but most of them are "Star messes up, Marco helps her fix it."

<--- Last chapter even gave me the creeps.
No.207133
Anonymous
Replies:>>207134
>>207132
Yeah, that episode was the worst I've seen so far. They’ve committed three awfully big mistakes:

Firstly, a redemption episode so early in the season for Tom was not a good idea. Tom had a great potential as a villain with his superpowers and his jealousy. But they made a redemption episode and it wasn’t even a good one. It was

“You know Star is never gonna date you unless she wants, right?”
“I know.”
“So, friends?”
“Yeah, why not.”

Which I don’t know about you, but it sounds like the writer spent 10 minutes thinking the plot of the episode.

Secondly, they used the word ‘Starco’ in the episode, which is a name invented by the fandom. I don’t personally like when a show begins using stuff from the fandom instead of their own stuff.

Lastly and most importantly, the teasers. In the teaser for the first episode we got “Star and I have become smooch buddies. I kiss her on the lips.” Which turned out to be fake, and for the second episode we got a scene where Star is all alien-like, but it turned out to be a dream scene. Well, thanks for playing with me, Disney.

I can totally say I love the show more now after those two episodes. Especially the misleading teasers. They're great, it feels super rewarding when you're watching the episode and you see how tricked you were.
No.207134
Anonymous
Replies:>>207137
>>207133
Dude, they're ten minute long episodes. Don't expect the writers to fit The Lord of the Rings in such a short episode length.
No.207136
Anonymous
>>207131
There are plenty of well off and decent artists. I don't think wanting incog to be a starving artist so he doesn't maybe turn into a jerk he wouldn't turn into if he made a liveable wage is a very nice thing.
No.207137
Anonymous
>>207134
Steven Universe also uses a 10 minute format and they don't do so poorly in the plot episodes. Not even in the filler ones. I blame the scriptwriters and of course the director for allowing this.
No.207138
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for page 2 of the current Power Pack request. Just 2 more lines to go then I color it. Losing the entire weekend this week really set me back on this since I should have been able to knock out all of these lines then, but oh well. Will line page 3 next.

Also, due to people wanting a means of update notifications, and the fact that my Patreon page would be too cluttered if I did a different post for every update so that it notifies, I have been talked into doing something I promised myself I would never do...create a Twitter account. Note that I will be doing nothing with this account outside of tweeting a quick update, like "New Power Pack page out". Sadly upon making the account I discovered that somebody created an account with @Incognitymous in the past, and not only that but they got the account suspended, so sadly it auto-named me @Incognitymous1. This means my twitter page will be twitter.com/Incognitymous1.

>>207074
>Try some hot chocolate. Even with the summer heat, that always cheers me up.

I prefer to use ice cream for such a thing. Only 50 cents a pound so it makes it a good filler when still hungry after a small meal.

>>207078
>Wonderful lines incog. Maybe the sketches for this were rougher than usual for this but everything is so much more defined after this.

Yeah, I've started getting rougher in the sketch phase as I am getting more confident in cleaning things up in the lines. I still will put the time into cleaner sketches when of a style I may have trouble with but overall I am trying to speed that step up a bit.

>>207079
>I'm not the guy with the question but I very much appreciate learning from all your life experience incog.

No problem. In a world where society as a whole tries to exploit people in order to raid their finances I feel people that have experienced its ways should be obliged to share said knowledge. Sadly such exploiters control most media so sharing true life experience to the masses is something that generally does not happen.

>>207103
>I realize we're effectively discussing how to spend imaginary lottery winnings, but if you really want to help out the 34 community (and loli community) more than tablets/gear for individual people, what it really needs is someone to fund a place where artists can post all erotic work, loli or not, 34 or not, like what HF USED to be.

Well the thing is there are already such places, but for some reason people do not really learn of them. I've had no trouble here (outside of the normal rules for board relevancy) or in my gallery over at Jab Archives. For some reason everyone is really intent on sites like Tumblr/Pixiv, despite the fact that sites exist without their rules/limitations. People think sites with freedom do not exist solely because the sites without freedom are the ones getting all of the paid advertising.

>>207105
>I'm afraid it's not like that. In rule34 it almost never gets tagged properly and it usually lacks the url leading here or to his patreon. I bet 90% of the rule34 community doesn't know incog has a patreon.

Yeah, that is a problem I have begun noticing. I strolled over to Paheal after a patron mentioned that most of my stuff posted over there is not given a proper source link. Not only did I notice that was true, but I do see people often asking for a source and/or wondering where I post/am active at.

>>207108
>Yo Incog, with the extra money you're gonna get by the 1st you should buy a good amazing comfortable pillow to rest properly and a good lamp or something illumination related to make sure your sight doesn't get tired while drawing.
>
>And sugary products. Nothing raises the spirits more than some sugar.

Sadly there is not going to be money for that until I have a second vehicle. That is what I am pinching all pennies for and that is really what my desperation right now is about. Everything is going really well for once, but all of it could come crashing down in a second if something were to happen to the one vehicle everyone relies on due to a complete lack of emergency funds. I'm just sort of rushing to get to a safe point so everything can continue to go well without as much risk.

>>207115
>Not much to it. Obviously the ad would have the necessary information and contact details on it. It should be pretty straightforward.

Straightforward is best. While I am against adding links/logos to my normal pieces, I have been thinking that if I ever did get into a series of web-comic style shorts that I could at least add the URLs to my Patreon/Jab gallery in the empty space that would already be present in the intended format. At least that way there would be an update once or twice a month that would point people where to find my stuff, hopefully alleviating people having to ask around for a source. Maybe I'll do something to advertise to make a new thread soon since this one is already buried.

>>207127
>Its not good to be low key if you want to make a living off art. Bad artists can make thousands a month just through getting their name out.

Yeah, that's a thing that I'm starting to have to accept, which is why I am finally considering options there. I don't really need to make thousands a month, really just enough I can support my simple life style. Now that I am finally getting everyone around me self reliant I am planning to branch off from everything once this one year lease ends. I am hoping by then I can make enough from drawing alone that I can support myself without having do dedicate so much time to maintaining a full time job.

>>207130
>Incog not being very well known outside other loli artists and fans of his work isn't a good thing for him if he wants to make a steady income off his art.

Very much this. I've never really cared about getting my name out there, but sadly that is something I have to do if I want to make even a meager existence off of it.

>>207131
>Power corrupts, dude. I like the fact that Incog sort of shrugs at his fame.

I really wish I could continue to shrug at it completely, but I am getting far too tired of all of life's distractions getting in the way of my ability to draw. Having to constantly dip out for years at a time is something I have had to do far too many times. I simply have to accept that if I want to dedicate as much time as I'd like to drawing that I'll have to be able to make at least something off of it. Even just a few hundred dollars a month was enough to keep me able to stay around. If not for my Patreon I would have likely had to disappear for most of the last year or so just as I have always had to do shortly after making an appearance. I just don't want that to happen again, and if I have to get my name out there to make sure of that then I guess I have to get my name out there.
No.207140
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207138
>I have been talked into doing something I promised myself I would never do...create a Twitter account.

I'm not sure that's gonna be worth the effort. I mean, if you uploaded monthly I could understand a twitter to let people know, but you upload daily and always around the same time. I'll follow it anyways though.
No.207141
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207138
I hope Katie gets her own pair of those underwear.
No.207142
Anonymous
>>207138
>I've had no trouble here (outside of the normal rules for board relevancy) or in my gallery over at Jab Archives.

Here's good, but nothing here's permanent (and they have this weird aversion to cartoon bestiality which I know isn't everybody's thing but I like a little animal-on-girl too). Jabarchives I think falls into the category of "niche", that is, it seems to be furry focused with a minor in loli, and so it doesn't serve as a meeting place where all artists can interact. Also, I've never been entirely sure how open it is. Is it pretty much "ask and you'll get a permanent gallery to upload your stuff" or do you have to have some measure of fame or at least acceptance, post on forums for a while, and so on before that? I know they extended an offer to host galleries for the WWOEC refugees, but I don't know if that was a one-time absorption or if they pretty much let people in by asking (because there are some artists I'd love to direct there if that's the case, who are getting frustrated with Pixiv's censoring requirements).

But I think there's a real need, or a perceived need, for a site like HF or Pixiv in structure, where literally someone can stumble onto the site via a link or search engine having no previous presence, sign up for a gallery, and have a permanent place to start posting their stuff, no matter what niche they operate in, and where they can expect to be able to find a following because the people who like that will search for those tags, and others will browse randomly (sometimes without even having an account themselves) and stumble on them. A site that doesn't have silly rules against loli (or bestiality) or needing to pixelate genitals. I think if a site like that existed, a lot of loli artists would flock to it.

If Jabarchives is that site, great, but it doesn't -look- like that site, which may be why it doesn't get wider acceptance... both because all the logo/promotional art seems furry, and so artists will think that if they don't draw furry they won't get a following, and also because artists aren't sure if they can just sign up for a gallery or if there's a velvet rope they need to get past first.
No.207143
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207142
Honestly jabarchives looks like furryland to me but meh, who cares. Between rule34 which stores most the stuff and here in pco where we can see what incog does, I'm pretty much satisfied.
No.207144
Anonymous
Replies:>>207145
Ooooooooh!
Incognito+Anonymous=Incognitymous!

I was actually gonna ask you about where your name came from one of this days.
No.207145
Anonymous
>>207144
I didn't know that either. I feel so silly lol
No.207146
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207138
>I have been talked into doing something I promised myself I would never do...create a Twitter account.

I would go to Jabarchives if this board ever went down. I guess people wanted a backup news source.
No.207147
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207138
Love how Jack is still hard for anal sex with his sister. It's probably his superhuman stamina but really you can't blame him.
No.207148
Anonymous
>>207127
>Its not good to be low key if you want to make a living off art. Bad artists can make thousands a month just through getting their name out.

I just meant as a loli artist, he's pretty low key. He's not personally peddling himself everywhere at once. He's classy and isn't a loudmouth. Do loli artists need to watch their back more than traditional artists who draw adult characters? Of course. I probably wouldn't recommend using the Patreon logo on an image of a naked loli for instance. I have seen that logo on Rule 34 images to promote an artist's page but the character is always an adult. Toot your horn as much as you want, if you draw the dull, vanilla Rule 34, but I'm always wary for our precious loli artists who need to take certain precautions or they'll get in trouble or harassed by soccer moms. I think if incog keeps off the radar of certain corners of the Internet, he'll be in business for a long time. Always be mindful and vigilant and know there are determined, motivated nutbags out there trying to police the Internet.
No.207153
Anonymous
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Thanks to that new Flintstones comic of all things I have one thing to say, Loli- Pebbles ahoy for incog
No.207154
Anonymous
>>207153
I don't approve of cannibalism, but I'll happily teach her to suck cock.
No.207155
Anonymous
Replies:>>207159
>>207153
Request her on Patreon bro, he's got a list to get through ;)
No.207158
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207138
So Incog, how about using the first colored page of the comic as thread starter?
No.207159
Anonymous
Replies:>>207164
>>207155
I'm aware but I wasn't requesting. Just bringing a character/design he may like to attention. Although it would be a funny Halloween request to have gwen go primal with her
No.207160
Incognitymous
Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Just popping in for a second to give an update. Sadly no image and I must go to work immediately after submitting this. I kept trying to get time to draw, but only got a few minutes at a time so I only got like 30% of the current page done. I'll try and finish it tonight, but that will be well after midnight so there will sadly be no update for today.
No.207163
Anonymous
>>207160
All good incog. Don't stress. You're the boss of this artistic venture, remember that.
No.207164
Anonymous
>>207159
Yeah we need to stop bugging incog for now, he's under a lot of pressure to meet his deadlines.
No.207174
Anonymous
Replies:>>207180
>>207160
I'm glad you didn't update in the end. It means you went to sleep!
No.207180
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for page 3 of the current Power Pack request. One more page to line and then colors. I will try my damnest to have the whole thing done before Monday.

>>207140
>I'm not sure that's gonna be worth the effort. I mean, if you uploaded monthly I could understand a twitter to let people know, but you upload daily and always around the same time. I'll follow it anyways though.

Some people just like to be automatically notified of an update as opposed to having to check. Patreon notifies if I make a new post, but if I made a new post every time I uploaded something it would be impossible to see where the important posts are. A few people seem to want the notifications, so I I figure I can spend the 20 seconds posting a tweet after I finish uploading everywhere.

>>207141
>I hope Katie gets her own pair of those underwear.

Maybe some day.

>>207142
>
>But I think there's a real need, or a perceived need, for a site like HF or Pixiv in structure, where literally someone can stumble onto the site via a link or search engine having no previous presence, sign up for a gallery, and have a permanent place to start posting their stuff, no matter what niche they operate in, and where they can expect to be able to find a following because the people who like that will search for those tags, and others will browse randomly (sometimes without even having an account themselves) and stumble on them.

Well the way I have always looked at it is that there are plenty of forums as well where things like that can be posted. Even WWOEC had a tag system for images and a way to browse images in a thread like a gallery, and I am pretty sure the Jab/Pal forums do as well. Yeah, forums typically require a login, but so do places like Pixiv to view adult content. Even Rule34Hentai.net requires a login to view loli content (when tagged appropriately). Point is, there are PLENTY of places to post loli and such online, it's just that people don't see it this way since the such content is being pulled from the big sites due to an influx of SJWs and other internet police.

>>207146
>I would go to Jabarchives if this board ever went down. I guess people wanted a backup news source.

Well I do have multiple places I post now, making the Twitter less important. It seems to be less about a backup news source and more about people wanting instant notification of updates.

>>207143
>Honestly jabarchives looks like furryland to me but meh, who cares. Between rule34 which stores most the stuff and here in pco where we can see what incog does, I'm pretty much satisfied.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is because the person that runs the site is very much into furry. Thing is, if you actually look through the galleries there is much more human characters now after the recent fall of WWOEC, although there is still very little art compared due to other sources due to the obvious lack of popularity in comparison.

>>207147
>Love how Jack is still hard for anal sex with his sister. It's probably his superhuman stamina but really you can't blame him.

Yeah, and they don't call him the 'Mass Master' for nothing...I've been wanting to utilize that title but haven't been able to get around to it yet.

>>207153
>Thanks to that new Flintstones comic of all things I have one thing to say, Loli- Pebbles ahoy for incog

I actually looked at that while eating today...did not like it. Not just because Pebbles was not actually in it at this point outside of on a cover image, but while I agree with pretty much all of the political points made, I'm really not okay with them utilizing the Flinststones as a comic with such an obvious political agenda. Also, my biggest beef with it was that Barney Rubble was too damn tall.

>>207158
>So Incog, how about using the first colored page of the comic as thread starter?

Maybe...but I was hoping to do a fun little page just mentioning the locations I actually post. I'll have to see how much I can get done by the end of the weekend.

>>207174
>I'm glad you didn't update in the end. It means you went to sleep!

Yeah...I'm not as glad about it, but I was far too tired to do lines last night. This was especially true knowing I had a few things to do in the morning so I had to crash instead.
No.207182
Anonymous
>>207180
Whoah.. so flawless and perfect..
No.207183
Anonymous
>>207180
>Maybe...but I was hoping to do a fun little page just mentioning the locations I actually post. I'll have to see how much I can get done by the end of the weekend.

Brilliant idea incog. Every move you make has to be a marketing strategy at this point. Great to see you, man, hope you're well-rested :)
No.207186
Anonymous
>>207180
>I was hoping to do a fun little page just mentioning the locations I actually post.
This is even better!
No.207187
Anonymous
Replies:>>207189
>>207186
God I hope it involves Gwen XD
No.207188
Anonymous
Replies:>>207283
>>207180
Hey Incog, how much does each stage of a page take from a 100%? For example… 20% sketch, 30% lines and 50% colors?
No.207189
Anonymous
Replies:>>207194
>>207187
>>207186
I hope all the girls get involved.
No.207190
Anonymous
>>207180
>Some people just like to be automatically notified of an update as opposed to having to check. Patreon notifies if I make a new post, but if I made a new post every time I uploaded something it would be impossible to see where the important posts are. A few people seem to want the notifications, so I I figure I can spend the 20 seconds posting a tweet after I finish uploading everywhere.

Transparency and constant updating to keep the customer base informed and in the loop. That's the nature of business. Keep them close and eventually a community will form around you. Sorta like what you've established here, but everyone pays you for your hard work. Pco and paheal can remain as advertising platforms where your final product (those gorgeous works of fine art you create) can be shared through paheal and other outlets.
No.207194
Anonymous
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>>207189
I miss Incog's Gwen though. Speaking of which, a clip for the new series debuted at Comic Con today. I rate it lower than the Omniverse design but I'm dying to know what incog thinks??
No.207195
Anonymous
>>207194
Dude. He draws her like 4 times a month at least. When was the last time he drew Jade or something? I know some people here need a daily injection of new Gwen, but other girls do need love from time to time.
No.207197
Anonymous
Replies:>>207204
>>207194
>I miss Incog's Gwen though
He has just finished a 6 colored pages featured Gwen. Where have you been? In a hole or what?
No.207199
Anonymous
>>207194
I miss Incog's Julie.

Oh wait, there she is! I feel so silly now lol.
No.207204
Anonymous
>>207197
How hard is it to fathom.. I want MORE Gwen from incog.
No.207210
Anonymous
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Gwenbros outrage over nu-Gwen is priceless:

http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/84693713/cartoon-network-is-destroying-ben-ten-again#p84697482
No.207214
Anonymous
>>207204
This. I know every loliclub girl need some love but it can't be helped.
Incog's drawings are amazing but every time he draws Gwen is just outstanding
No.207218
Anonymous
Replies:>>207225
>>207214
He's on a clock now. His time belongs to others. So we won't see her unless there's a request for her. Tell me there's a request for her incog O__O
No.207220
Anonymous
>>207180
>Yeah, and they don't call him the 'Mass Master' for nothing...I've been wanting to utilize that title but haven't been able to get around to it yet.

I figured he'd go the other way.

"Hey, did you happen to take my 'M' earlier did you?" "'Your 'M'?" "Yeah... I know I had it earlier... fess up, did you steal it?" "Of course not... I don't even know what you're talking about." "Huh, weird, because ever since we were up in the treehouse together, I've just been the Ass Master." (Julie facepalms)
No.207224
Anonymous
>>207204
Fund him and request some Gwen. I'm sure he'll do it.
No.207225
Anonymous
>>207204
>>207214
>>207218
You guys are absurd. This month incog has done a 6 page comic about Gwen and a thread starter and you want more? Despite how much incog loves Gwen I'm certain he appreciates drawing other characters from time to time so that it doesn't get tedious, so quit being annoying.

If you want so much Gwen then request her on his Patreon. It costs $1. If you can't spare 1 buck I'm not sure you love Incog drawing Gwen that much.
No.207226
Anonymous
>>207194
Sigh. As time passes they make Gwen worse.
No.207227
Anonymous
Replies:>>207228
>>207225
They're probably just the kind of people who laugh like "Me? Paying for something? Why if some dumbasss is gonna do it for me." and don't bother to spend even one dollar.
No.207228
Anonymous
>>207225
>>207227
You shouldn't go making assumptions, that's a quite impolite and inappropriate behaviour
I'm on patreon but haven't made any request until now, not even of Gwen

I know it's better request things there if you want them getting done but I liked more when people just show him some support there while he did whatever he wanted to. People back then threw him some ideas here but nothing else.

Now things has changed, that's for sure, but I still wish to giving him some support even without requesting nothing there.
No.207231
Anonymous
Replies:>>207232
>>207228
You probably haven't given it a try, but drawing takes its time. No matter how easy it is for you to draw a character after having drawn her for a thousand times, it still takes time. And Incog doesn't precisely have a lot of free time, so yeah you guys keep saying "Hurr durr, incog no longer does what he wants he is tied to his Patreon requests" but allow me to remind you that Incog can always say no to a request and he's getting some money off doing what he likes.
No.207232
Anonymous
>>207231
>he's getting some money off doing what he likes.

Too little in my personal opinion. Sometimes I feel guilty of how cheap he is.
No.207233
FairySlayer
Since we're discussing "safe and reliable" places for Incognitymous to post, a quick bit about JabArchives.com:

First, it's not longer related to JAB in any way. (I'm trying to talk Cheetah, the owner, into coming up with a new domain name.) Even with some former WWOEC members around the forums are pretty much a blank slate. Any good group of people (hint hint!) with a little motivation could make the forums into whatever they want it to be.

The only two rules there are "NO ILLEGAL SHIT" and "NO DRAMA" – easy enough, right?

All kinds of artwork are welcome, but it just happens that Cheetah's pet project is a furry thing… but he's trying to change that perception for the site itself.

If an artist wants a gallery or directory they only need to have a decent level of talent and dedication. I've seen people who started out two-steps above stick figures blossom big-time by having a place for feedback.

For posting there's the forums, the "automated" gallery system that many artists are using, and personal folders/sites. (If you don't want to use the automated gallery but also don't want to code then use free/donation-ware stuff like Coppermine [Tommy Simms' favorite], JAlbum, 4images, etc.)

Registration is NOT necessary to see the forums and galleries/folders, but to leave feedback you'd need to register. (I know the idea of everyone being "anonymous" and free is highly valued here, though I suggest that having an alias worth protecting and building upon is rewarding.)

The servers are fully super-redundant (multiple levels) and in a VERY SECURE location in the U.S. Now, the servers are a bit dated and have *occasionally* been a bit sluggish since the influx of former WWOEC members. Cheetah has a line on some much newer equipment (for free!) to replace it. Once we can dig up about $1200 more for new hard drives then the process can begin and all will be golden. (I've already pumped in some cash to get things moving, but if those who keep begging for an image-sharing subforum will pitch in a little then we'd be there in no time.

But there is no danger of the site disappearing even if that does not happen! You see, along with Jabarchives the equipment also hosts PalComix and other sites which cover all of the operating costs. So there will NEVER be sudden begging for money to keep the site alive like with WWOEC. Also, since Cheetah owns the physical machines the data will never get wiped due to a billing mistake or any crud like that. (Not gonna happen anyway.)

Anyway, "The more you know…" and all that.
No.207235
Anonymous
Replies:>>207240
>>207233
That's good to know.
However Incog’s posts in jabarchives aren’t the problem. You see, Incog adds a little description with information about the picture and his Patreon in each upload to that site but, being honest, jabarchives isn’t nearly as known as pahealrule34.

Porn is like fruit. You have to consume it soon otherwise it spoils, so when a picture is uploaded to paheal it gets 90% of its total visits on the first day only. The problem is that AlbertWesker or sebusca or whoever uploads the picture first (Those guys surely are fast) never add a source tag to it, so most of the times there’s a comment in the picture saying “Hey, does he takes requests? How do I contact him?” and the sorts, so when a helpful user of that website adds the source tag to either Incog’s patreon or here (it’s usually 6-10 days later), it’s already too little too late for anyone to notice where the picture came from.

The solution would be either Incog signs his pictures which apparently is a no, or he uploads them himself to paheal to make sure they have proper tagging. It would also be great that if AlbertWesker read this he could fix the problem himself, although I personally think he’s a bot.
No.207240
Anonymous
Replies:>>207242
>>207235
>if AlbertWesker read this he could fix the problem himself, although I personally think he’s a bot.

Oh he's on here. If he's getting Incog's work fresh, then he's on here. Albert, add the pco link please!
No.207241
Anonymous
>>207220
>Assmaster

Somebody give this guy a Pulitzer.
No.207242
Anonymous
Replies:>>207243
>>207240
>Oh he's on here. If he's getting Incog's work fresh, then he's on here. Albert, add the pco link please!

Or to be more accurate, the patreon link
No.207243
Anonymous
>>207242
Incog's posts here leads to his contact details. Gotta be honest about the image source. Maybe if he could make the first comment on his upload about Incog's patreon page.
No.207245
Anonymous
>>207194

Sigh. Every reboot makes me long for the original series. And Nu-Gwen just makes OS Gwen more vivid and dynamic in my mind. She truly was a beautiful character design.
No.207247
Anonymous
Replies:>>207248
>>207243
Why make people first come here, copy the link and then go to Patreon? No sir, in the source it should go the patreon link and then, if you have some spare time, you can make sure the first comment is a link to this site.

The point of those pictures isn't to promote PCO but to promote Incog's patreon.
No.207248
Anonymous
>>207247
But they can talk to him here without needing to sign up to anything. I can't read much of his posts on patreon let alone interact with him because I'm not a member. At least make pco the gateway to his patreon.
No.207249
Anonymous
Incog, you are awesome. That is all.
No.207250
Anonymous
Replies:>>207284
>>207248
I'm sorry but it sounds like the administration thingy. "You need the form 3B from the window E8 to access the certificate in the desk 9H."

As I already said, the main goal of adding a source to Incog's stuff isn't to promote PCO but to promote his patreon. If PCO gets promoted along the way that's fine too.
No.207251
Anonymous
Replies:>>207252
>>207248
Honestly, half the comments in paheal are "It looks great!" and the other half are "Where can I request him stuff?" So I'd say a Patreon link will do better than a PCO link, cause if the guy clicking on the PCO link has never been here he might get veeery confused. On the other hand, Patreon is just a quick easy logging form which is obviously necessary and you're ready to go.
No.207252
Anonymous
>>207251
I guess it would be the express lane for those asking for his business. And incog directs them here from patreon whenever he updates with a pic, because his pics aren't actually on patreon. That's why I thought it silly to link the patreon page as the source of the images.
No.207256
Anonymous
Replies:>>207257
>>207252
Actually, by that logic it should link to this gallery in jabarchives intead of here.
No.207257
Anonymous
Replies:>>207264
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>>207252
>>207256
It still sounds like you're complicating everything. Why lead people here and then to his Patreon instead of posting the link directly?

One of the first rules in business is that simple sells. You can't make people meddle with lots of links or they'll get discouraged. Incog should post a link to his Patreon in the sources and then, if he feels like, a small side note in the picture or a comment below saying "Hey! I'm also active at /pco/" since it would be stupid to post a /pco/ link knowing how we change thread every 20 days.

Besides, I thought this whole commotion was because of his new $100 pledge level. How is he gonna fill that level if people are redirected here instead of to his Patreon?

And what's the point of writing a request here? The answer is gonna be anyways "While I'm currently very busy, I'll consider it for the future" by incog and a "fund him in patron bro" by a lot of anons. In conclusion, a direct link to his Patreon seems like the best approach.
No.207264
Anonymous
>>207257
Yeah I was agreeing with you chief. Express lane to Patreon, no fucking around. If I was a noob, loved what he did with Wilykit, wanted more, I would want to go straight to the cash register to pay. Ultimately however it's incog's call.
No.207283
Incognitymous
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Thanks again to my current Patreon supporters. The support is greatly appreciated. If you would like to show your support my Patreon can be found at www.Patreon.com/Incognitymous.

Here are the lines for the final page of the current Power Pack request. Will start on colors soon, although I may sketch out an advertising some page this weekend. Doubtful, as I really want to get these colors done, but if I make enough progress quickly enough I may do so.

Late on this update since I lost another day yesterday to a bunch of crap going on as usual. Turns out one of the people I'm helping out already lost their job on Friday due to OSHA coming in and shutting them down. Said person was coming home with burns/bruises and was claiming the place was very much like a sweat shop. I told them to quit based on how bad it sounded but they were toughing it out until they got something better. They were there through a staffing agency, which pulled them out after OSHA hit the place with over 20 safety violations, forced them to cover everyone's medical costs as well as fined them over $250,000 while giving them 15 days to get the facility up to par or they will shut it down indefinitely. This ended up working out well, since it got cut off at the end of the week, said person got paid for the full day despite the early shutdown and got free medical treatment and the staffing agency relocated everyone to new jobs starting Monday.

Needless to say with people relying on me for transportation this took up my day. Sadly this may also eat up a bit of my Monday as well since the new job's location and hours are quite troublesome along with the probation I have to get someone else to. I'll try my best to have an update on Monday but we'll see how that goes. On the potential bright side of everything, since everyone still technically has jobs through the same employers nothing has been set back financially. As such I should still be on track to having a lot more time available come about 3 weeks from now.

>>207188
>Hey Incog, how much does each stage of a page take from a 100%? For example… 20% sketch, 30% lines and 50% colors?

Hmm, I never actually time myself so it's hard to say for sure. I can honestly say though that when it comes to comic pages the lines more often than not take less times than the sketch phase. The sketch phase includes more steps than what I post, whereas the lines are a one step process. The sketch phase requires the preliminary stages where the layout/poses have to be determined, while leaving space for dialogue and such. In this stage there is quite a bit of relocating/resizing things, and often times layout panels have to be doodled a few times to get a different angle/perspective going. Then there is the time of adding the actual bubbles and font, which I try now to do before the line phase so that I know exactly where it is all going to go.

Since there are many variables that can change things I can only give a range, but I'd say more like 30-40% sketching, 20-30% lines, and about 40-50% colors for a comic page. For a standalone image, where there is no longer page layout to consider as well as not having the amount of details to color in that a comic page with 5+ panels would likely have, I'd say it's more balanced out at about 30% sketching, 30% lines and about 40% color. A simple enough color job though can make it more like 40% sketching, 40% lines and 20% color.

>>207194
>Speaking of which, a clip for the new series debuted at Comic Con today. I rate it lower than the Omniverse design but I'm dying to know what incog thinks??

Personally I would rate the design higher if it were not attempting to be Gwen. Gwen is great for her thin body, her sharp features that lead to her great mischievous expressions that complement her tomboyish design/demeanor. This Gwen has more of a modern Disney cartoon feel (like Star/Gravity Falls type cartoon), her design is much too rounded given her original personality, which I feel will lead to her expressions looking more submissive than anything else. Maybe they'll surprise us with how well they can pull off other expressions, but from what I've seen I feel that worried/flustered expressions will look better on that design than anything. Normally I would be fine with this, but I feel this does not do Gwen justice. Who knows, though, if this proves to be true it may be fun to draw the new Gwen on occasion just to have more submissive Gwen situations.

>>207220
>I figured he'd go the other way.
>
>"Hey, did you happen to take my 'M' earlier did you?" "'Your 'M'?" "Yeah... I know I had it earlier... fess up, did you steal it?" "Of course not... I don't even know what you're talking about." "Huh, weird, because ever since we were up in the treehouse together, I've just been the Ass Master." (Julie facepalms)

Haha, I have thought about utilizing the 'Ass Master' variant to his normal 'Mass Master' variant, but I had not considered Jack making the reference himself as a cringe-worthy punchline.

>>207225
>Despite how much incog loves Gwen I'm certain he appreciates drawing other characters from time to time so that it doesn't get tedious, so quit being annoying.

This is true. I do like Gwen, but I do enjoy drawing other characters as well. There is a lot of stuff on my list of things that I would like to draw in the future, such as things from Avatar, Teen Titans, Power Pack, Jackie Chan Adventures, Inspector Gadget, etc. I like doing a variety of stuff with all of my regular characters, and on occasion I do like dipping into different sources with varying styles, like Star/Gravity Falls/likely the new Ben 10 designs as I am sure there will be requests for it once it starts airing.

>>207228
>I know it's better request things there if you want them getting done but I liked more when people just show him some support there while he did whatever he wanted to. People back then threw him some ideas here but nothing else.

Hopefully there can be more of that soon. If all current real life plans go well I am hoping to have a lot more time by around the 15th of next month. The big problem that got me was promising some stuff on Patreon that I was sure I would be able to keep up with, but then making the mistake of going overboard on my initial plans due to liking request material, but also life kicking me in the ass on top of it. Maybe I didn't have to but I felt the need to go through and knock out the requests for people who stuck around during the kicking of my ass. If I am able to free up the time I am hoping for I should be able to get all of my Patreon stuff done in like 1-2 weeks, leaving the rest of the month to whatever projects I'd like to get to.

>>207243
>Incog's posts here leads to his contact details. Gotta be honest about the image source. Maybe if he could make the first comment on his upload about Incog's patreon page.

Yeah, I do feel this is my primary concern in this situation. Source links probably should not lead to my Patreon since the content can generally only be viewed by patrons, plus the content is not actually posted on Patreon but rather redirected to the original source(s). I generally leave my Patreon details on my posts over at Jab as well as here, so people interested will likely see it, plus I have both /pco/ and Patreon in my profile information at Jab.

The current problem that I want to resolve is that there are people interested in finding my stuff but these people have no idea where to find me at all outside of my stuff popping up on Paheal. Simply creating an image with mention of my details from time to time will likely lessen this issue. When I came back this time around I had wanted to get back to posting my content on Paheal myself, but was deterred from doing so due to the nukes that came down on my tag as well as Paheal's talk of removing loli completely. As such I didn't feel the desire to post stuff just to have it torn down, but it does seem that behavior has toned down a bit so maybe I'll get back to doing so when time clears up a bit.
No.207284
Incognitymous
Message too long. Here's part 2:

>>207248
>But they can talk to him here without needing to sign up to anything. I can't read much of his posts on patreon let alone interact with him because I'm not a member. At least make pco the gateway to his patreon.

That is one reason here is a good place to link. Jab would be good on that if I received some kind of notification when people commented on my pictures, but as of now I wouldn't want to have to open all of my recent pictures just to see if there was a comment made on one of them. Jab also has the problem that I cannot reorganize my gallery without deleting the images and re-uploading them, so any time I decide to organize any images in my gallery I would be breaking the outside links to them.

>>207250
>As I already said, the main goal of adding a source to Incog's stuff isn't to promote PCO but to promote his patreon. If PCO gets promoted along the way that's fine too.

Well while I would like to promote my Patreon, I do agree that source links should lead to where the actual images are posted and not just a Patreon page. While admittedly a part of me would rather direct everyone to Patreon, I am mostly just interested in making it so that people can find where I post. Scrolling through Paheal made it far too apparent that many people are interested in finding where I post/update but have no idea where to go. This is to be expected since I do post in more obscure places so I figure some advertising of my /pco/ and Jab locations is in order.

>>207233

@FairySlayer: Yeah, I've actually mentioned Jab myself to a few people as a place to post their stuff safely. The site could be a perfect place to post but I feel there are just a few things that could be fixed/updated to make it so. First off, something that should be easy to fix is that they really should mention the resolution limits in the file size limitations when uploading. I remember Cheetah having it upgraded for me, but I have forgotten exactly how high it goes and have no way to find out where it is at. All I can see is that I have a 5mb limit per post.

Secondly, I feel the galleries would be much more desirable if they allowed tools for organizing the gallery. Some people, myself included, like keeping stuff in order. I'd imaging that many artists often times have to, or just want to, deviate from current projects to dip into something else for a bit. Without the ability to organize my gallery I end up having to post things out of order with no way to fix it outside of taking down the images and reuploading them once everything is finished. This wouldn't be so much of a problem if not for the fact that many people have multiple places they update, as well as sites like Rule34Hentai.net/Paheal having source links, all of which then become broken and have to be fixed when images are reuploaded. This is also a problem for people wishing to use Patreon that would like to adhere to Patreon's community guidelines and keep pornographic content in an outside gallery and then linking to it. Organizing the gallery in this situation breaks all of the links and makes updating in this manner a headache.

Lastly, along the lines of the domain name issue you mentioned, I feel the biggest problem with the site is how much furry it advertises compared to other character models. I do not personally have a problem with how much furry is displayed, but I feel it makes the site seem more like a Fur Affinity type site and less like a site that is open to all varieties of artists. Discussion here has shown that most people that are not into furry simply turn around immediately after getting to or past the content advisory warning, only going past that to maybe find a specific artist. I just feel that if the site is looking to really expand it needs to seem more open to a wider variety of artists/audience as opposed to appearing as if it adheres to a single type of content. I am sure many of the artists on Jab, myself included, would be more than willing to assist with this, so it could end up being less work than it seems.
No.207287
Anonymous
Replies:>>207300
>>207283
Phew, thank you for finishing this finally. Must be a relief after everything you went through helping out your poor friend again. Glad justice was served in the end.
No.207288
Anonymous
Replies:>>207300
>>207283
>This Gwen has more of a modern Disney cartoon feel (like Star/Gravity Falls type cartoon), her design is much too rounded given her original personality, which I feel will lead to her expressions looking more submissive than anything else.

Right?? Forbidden from the club, right? But could probably be the boss of the Bizzarro Loli Club..
No.207289
Anonymous