/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

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I missed seein the animation.

I've met too many people who never watched A Fish Called Wanda and that's just a goddamn shame.

>>47225
I tried watching it, and didn't see what the big deal is.

In misery porn news: The Walking Dead finally revealed who died by Negan’s hand. (Abraham and Glenn, for those what care.) Ten bux says the writers won’t handle another season-ending cliffhanger like that again, given all the shit they received (and rightfully so).

Fucked up the spoilertags, can a mod help out with that?

>>47235

I gave up on it after Season Three because it proved to be nothing but “misery porn”; its whole reason for existing is to invoke misery and suffering and pain without any hope of a cathartic ending in sight. There’s literally no way this show can end other than the TV equivalent of “rocks fall, everyone dies”. The series finalé could be all about Rick and what’s left of his group finding some place to live out the rest of their days in peace and comfort, and even that would still feel empty because it’s the last days of humanity and there isn’t any fucking way to put a “happy ending” spin on that.

If people wanna watch misery porn, that’s their choice and I ain’t gonna judge ’em for that. But I saw where this train was headed a few years back and I didn’t feel like continuing the ride.

Walking Dead is basically the Attack on Titan of cable television.

>>47238

True, save for one point: For all the horrible shit that happens in AoT, there still exists at least a faint chance of a cathartic or even “happy” ending for the protagonists (“happy” in the context of AoT’s story, anyway). TWD doesn’t even have that unless it invokes a shitty Deus Ex Machina; it’s just misery and death and suffering all the way down. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the writers try to Newhart this shit with a “Rick’s coma dream” ending—at this point, it’d be just about the only way to end the show without reminding people the story is about the end of humanity.

>>47238
Not until Walking Dead's showrunners are caught sneaking subliminal far-right messages into the show and getting into political Twitter wars over the legitimacy of the Confederate flag or whatever the American equivalent of uyoku dantai is.

Walking Dead is more like... the 2010's LOST.

>>47242

…how the hell do you figure that?

>>47243
(different anon)

There doesn't seem to be an answer, or an end in sight.

>>47244

There is no real “mystery” to solve in TWD other than the vague notion of "where did the virus/plague/whatever come from" (which doesn’t even matter). It's a zombie apocalypse story that only has one real ending in the long term—the end of humanity—so it's not like Rick and his group making it to some zombie-free sanctuary is gonna magically disappear that notion.

It’s not LOST. It’s just shitty misery porn that's being dragged out because the writers have no idea how to end a Feel-Bad Show with anything less than an ending designed to annihilate the audience's hope or optimism or faith in anything.

>>47245


Games seem to get the angle of time passage and zombies becoming less a deathly problem and more just a hazard to watch out and prepare for (dead are chopped, decapitated and cremated)

And after five or more years so much decay has set in to those once massive hordes they are manageable to map out and contain.

I mean its a bit easier than some zombie apoc scenarios. There is no fear of infection since everyone is already a carrier just waiting for the catalyst.

Where is the show getting hung up? I don't watch as I've not seen it in years and don't feel like binge watching missed seasons.

>>47246
And yet the only settlement in the game's first season collapsed from one unexpected death.

Really, it's more of a Gilligan's Island situation: Indefinitely sustainable living conditions are not logically impossible, they just fail due to contrivance so the show won't end.

>>47246

Here’s the thing: like other1 said, indefinitely sustainable living conditions could technically be achieved in a world like TWD’s, but there are shitloads of variables involved with even getting there—weather, soil health, whether a building is safe to live in for long periods of time—and that all comes before you put in the “X factor” that is human behavior.

Even if a settlement knows to take care of the dead before they become the undead, to fortify against herds and individual walkers alike, and to be wary of other people no matter what, all it’d take is one mistake, one accident, one bad decision to undo everything. One person getting lazy and not putting a trap where they should because what’s it gonna matter, they’re already safe and sound. One person dying of a heart attack in the middle of the night, when everyone else is asleep and unaware. One moment to destroy work that was accomplished over days, weeks, months, or even years. And yes, the writers often do contrive scenarios so its characters will make such bad decisions or forgetful mistakes, but to say they wouldn’t happen in reality…you can’t prove people aren’t that dumb sometimes.

As to the assertion that “the walker hordes will die or become manageable after [X] many years”: Even assuming that’s true, there is still the “X factor” to deal with. People like Rick would still have to deal with people like The Governor and Negan, and they would still have to deal with people who would be lazy or stupid or complacent enough to allow walkers or even worse people to wreck shit.

And that’s kinda the whole point of TWD: The walkers aren’t the real threat to humanity—humanity is.

Indeed, it isn't even about being dumb, it is impossible to be perfectly alert and vigilant 24/7. That's something I liked about World War Z (the book, eh), the idea that for all their weaknesses, zombies are the one enemy that can truly engage in Total War tactics.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/26/star-trek-tv-bryan-fuller

Current show runner stepping down and two others taking over for new Trek show. Production has yet to start so air date has been pushed back to May of next year as they continue to look for a female lead.

6-7 Million per episode is also making CBS squeamish about the property since this is supposed to headline thier digital access service and won't have ad spots to foot the bill.

>>47257
ENOUGH ALREADY

>>47251
Fuck.

There goes my interest in the project.

>>47258
>http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/10/28/get-ready-to-be-super-pissed-off-about-a-rambo-reboot

>One that will “look at Rambo as a character akin to James Bond”.

Nice, missing the characterization of Rambo by a mile.

Guessing they are going after that since Stallone said he retired the character as he did. John Rambo completed his journey and made it home. Story is over LEAVE IT ALONE.

>>47259
Yea it being another prequel doesn't hold interest to me. I'd like yo see another Star Trek story in the aftermath of the Dominion War.

And the McQuarrie designs they used for that teaser won't be what they use in the final production.

CBS be better off scrapping the idea of their own Digital Network and just partnering with Netflix who actually have the brass to give something a budget.

If they reboot fucking Rocky while Stallone is still around I'm going to punch a hole in my wall.

>>47261
>while Stallone is still around

Shhhh, 2016 is listening

>>47261
If they reboot at all then the Creedfags should riot. The movie gave Rocky a respectful way out, they should let him rest.

>>47260

>Guessing they are going after that since Stallone said he retired the character as he did.

As commenters on BMD have surmised, chances are likely that the studio will turn Rambo into an Iraq War veteran. Whether they’ll offer a commentary on how the US has been treating those vets—First Blood was about how the US treated Vietnam vets, after all—or simply go for the surface trait of “military action hero” is yet to be seen. Then again, this is a major studio doing a reboot/remake/whatever, so don’t get your hopes up for something like First Blood.

>>47263

I think Creed would be great doing a Punch Out (Rocky III) Series of films. Going after titles of the world champions and stuff. Capping it with a Rock IV type battle for the world. Maybe the foe being managed by Drago's widow (because according to Stallone Drago died)

Get Mr.T to fill the role of Creeds Manager since Stallone on that one basically gave him Mr.T actual life arc.

Creed Series films could be great.

But no robots please and the alluded to sexual activities therein.

>>47263
>The movie gave Rocky a respectful way out

I don't know, if anything it gave him a way to continue playing the character in a less demanding way.


>>47265
>Get Mr.T to fill the role of Creeds Manager

Would that be a different character than Clubber Lang?

>>47266

Nah it would be Clubber Lang since Stallone gave him Mr.T's life arc. Street Tough turned Man of God.

Well, seems that Michael Douglas confirmed what everybody already did know: Val Kilmer has throat cancer, and isn't exactly doing good.

>>47271

Fuck. Damn you 2016. We had two months to go.

That stuff is nasty business. Best to his and those close to him.

>>47271
>Kilmer denied treatment because of his Christian Scientist beliefs which hold prayer as the only means of curing illness
Part of me feels bad for him, part of me doesn't because he kinda brought it upon himself with that quackery. Though the people in charge of it are ultimately to blame for perpetuating this kinda irresponsible BS among their followers.

>>47274

Well that’s just fucking shitty as fuck. (His refusing treatment, not your post. Which I agree with.)

So, what did you guys watch for halloween night?

After many, many years avoiding it, I finally sat to watch Land of the Dead. Had very low expectations thanks to some *very* low opinions on the movie from people I know, and yet the damn thing still managed to surprise me. Because, boy howdy, Land of the Dead sucks. It felt like visiting an old uncle that used to be the coolest person ever, only to find he now suffers advanced Alhzeimer's. Never gonna watch Diary or Survival after this.

Good thing The Host (the Korean one, not Twilight with aliens) saved the night, now that was pretty damn fine monster movie, and I should have watched it much sooner. From what I heard there is both a sequel (with an entirely different director) and an american remake that have been locked in development hell for years, which is probably for the best.

>>47276

Halloween I and II (the original Carpenter films).

>>47277
Halloween 1-3

Season of the Witch be insanly stupid but it has some charm. Would love to get a Silver Shamrock mask still.

E.T.

Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown

Used to roll through the Halloween Episodes of Psych on Netflix.

Horror I enjoy any night of the year. I keep the Holidays Thematic. Die Hard and Gremlins on Christmas sorta stuff.

Welp all of that is over. Colbert should be set for the next eight years, maybe.

>>47309

Frankly, I never want to hear another joke about that orange fuck ever again.

>>47310
On the one hand, same.
On the other, I want him humiliated and mocked.

>>47312
I seriously doubt Trump is going to care now that he literally is at the top of the world, the most powerful man in the world. After this win, if his ego became a physical object, it most likely could not be contained within the boundaries of the observable universe.

>>47313
Then just mocked will have to do. I know it sounds petty, but seeing just Colbert talk about it is a bit cathartic.

>>47313
As of right now I don't care if I never read/watch/listen to anything political ever again, it feels like every time I get invested in something the electorate teams up to punch me in the gut. If only Eddie Izzard would take the same advice, the side I want to win might actually do so at least once in my fucking life.

Leonard Cohen just died today.

>>47319
ALRIGHT, 2016, STOP IT, THE JOKE'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE.

Now Robert Vaughn has died. Been watching old episodes of The man from UNCLE. Good show.

>>47321
Annnd there goes Robert Vaughn.

Fuck me.

>>47325
I'm not gonna do it. This is all a trick to get 2016 to kill them off isn't it.

>>47326
You're no fun.

>>47327

And you're not taking my favorite guitarists away this year, Agent of D.E.A.T.H.

//youtube.com/watch?v=wUtG93BebJ4

First GitS trailer folks.

Whitewashing or not, it does look pretty nice.

>>47329

Looks nice visually, but I’m not sold at all on why we needed a live-action GITS movie — and the shots/scenes ganked from the original film only make me wonder that much more.

>>47329
So do you think going to either change her name or only refer to her as The Major in this? Or are they going to ask us to believe that Scarlett Johannsen is playing a character named "Motoko Kusanagi?"

>>47331
Honestly seeing a couple of the films and the Gig series along with a familiarly with the Manga I really don't have a problem with it as Motoko swapped bodies often enough.

>>47331

The filmmakers have confirmed that her character’s name is “The Major” (or just “Major”). But I honestly expect a “twist” where The Major was an Asian woman named Motoko Kusanagi before whatever happened to force The Major’s brain into a full prosthetic body.

>>47332
Yeah, and that'll make it just as believable as when a fat white guy with a katana asks you to call him sensei.

>>47334
Doesn't Steven Segal own a sword?

>>47335

He's Steven Segal. Who gives a shit?

No idea what this is, but here goes:
https://soundcloud.com/mrsonic699/tubular-fm-series

Circling back to the GITS trailer. I read an article on io9 about the filmmakers addressing various aspects of the film — http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-ghost-in-the-shell-hopes-to-surpass-the-anime-despi-1789021618 — and despite the usual warning about such things, I delved into the comments. One of them mentioned a subtle reason as to why the trailer feels “off” (especially for GITS fans), so I’mma quote it here and let it speak for itself:

>After watching the trailer many times over the course of making my modest recap, it finally clicked to me what seemed wrong with it: it wasn’t just the whitewashing, or the imitated sequences, or the quality of acting or writing. It was a fundamental misrepresentation of the character of the Major: they wrote her into a victim.

>Look at her in the trailer. She’s cleartly looking for approval after making a lame quip to the technician, uncertain if she’s going to be chided. She’s desperately trying to make a human connection by soliticing a prostitute. And the line, “we saved your life, now you save others” — it’s not just corny writing, it’s a declaration for lack of agency. The Major isn’t fighting for her own sense of justice, or because of the people she cares about, she’s fighting to gain the approval of those with power over her, a slave attempting to please her keepers.

>This couldn’t be further from the Major’s characterisation in any iteration of the franchise if it tried.

>Now you could say that I’m overreacting, that I’m reading too much into a simple trailer. But a trailer’s job is to condense the key elements of the story into a compact package that relays to the audiences what this thing is all about. And I see an isolated captive with a Stockholm syndrome for her captors.

>>47338
So they Other M'd her.

>>47339

We can only hope the trailer is misleading in that case.

>>47340
Do find it interesting that persons that are built up as badass and rather unemotional are then saddled wit crippling issues when they attempt to add "depth".

Only time I've not seen that shit the bed so far is Witcher 3 game with both the core characters while not being emotional wrecks their actions show how much they love their "daughter" and what lengths they'll go to secure her safety.

>>47341

>Do find it interesting that persons that are built up as badass and rather unemotional are then saddled wit crippling issues when they attempt to add "depth".

I don’t. “Badass” can be written with depth and avoid the “crippling issues” bit; just look at Fury Road.

>>47341
>Do find it interesting that persons that are built up as badass and rather unemotional are then saddled wit crippling issues when they attempt to add "depth".

It's a difficult tightrope to walk. Badassery often comes from someone coming off as larger than life and, as such, not quite human. Depth comes from humanizing a character. The two are sort of inherently at odds. It's not at all impossible to have a very human and emotional badass, but it's a lot more difficult and requires a subtle touch that not all writers are up to.

>>47343

To wit: John Wick. He’s built up as a legendary badass, but the time spent humanizing him before we learn about his past and see him go sickhouse on people’s asses makes his badassery all the more impactful.

The same goes for Motoko in the anime films and GITS:SAC. That she’s a full-prosthetic cyborg and basically The Baddest Bitch on the Planet is awesome, but her inner struggles with the nature of her existence humanizes her and gives us a way into seeing her character as more than just a badass cyborg military cop.

>>47344

Yea her finding that thrift shop with her old body from her accident along with the body of the kid she knew.

Sure she's got a couple other episodes dedicated to her "soul searching" but I prefer that one.

>>47345

>the kid she knew

The show heavily implies that the other kid is actually Kuze.

Just want to point out that the new movie is more in line with what it feels like they're doing with Scarlett's character, so there is a flaw in the comment made that she's never been treated like this before.

Mind, that's not necessarily a positive...

The black hole of absolute dread that is 2016 has struck again: Florence Henderson has passed away.

>>47365
Ron Glass who played Book in Firefly/Serenity also just passed away :(

>>47369
Does Castro add to those numbers or do Polticals rank in a separate list.

>>47370
He's not /mtv/ material but good riddance to that dictator.

>>47373
As NewsThump adroitly put it, 2016 pulled off what 600 assassination attempts could not.

The weaponisation of 2016, what a ghastly thought.

>>47374
Shame it can't be weaponized against the pooptin.

2016 took away a LOT, but it also decided to give a little back, too.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/11/28/the-very-first-episodes-of-mystery-science-theater-3000-have-been-found

>>47382

>live-action Barbie movie

Screw people’s opinions about Amy Schumer — why the hell do we need a live-action Barbie movie?

>>47383

Sony wants a franchise starter. And since their last one bombed out they are trying again. But it still seems like they don't really know what they are doing or still looking at the plans from their fired former President.

>>47382
The Dreamhouse shorts were popular? Even /co/ barely knew they existed.

>>47385

They got a lot of draw on their YouTube channel. Enough they put together a package in an attempt to pitch it as a series to Nick.

Okay, this needs to be seen by everyone or at least most people
//youtube.com/watch?v=u34iRdW8PZA

>>47383
Ditto that. Barbie is all about the pink plastic doll aesthetic. It's unfitting for a Barbie movie to be anything but CGI. Not cartoon, definitely not live action, regardless of who they cast.

>>47389
Some things do actually work better in CGI.

>>47389
Puppets/stop motion would also be perfectly fine way to do it.

>>47396
Oh please no. That would go way too into uncanny valley.

>>47398
You're not a fan of Laika's movies I take it?

>>47399
Laika is fine as that's a certain style and motion. Barbie moving like that would be creepy and weird.

>>47402
>Seeing those Japanese guys lose their shit over a VR Girlfriend

>>47401
Yeah I don't think Barbie would be suited for that even if they went for pseudo stop motion in 3D like the Lego Movie. Some styles just aren't meant to mix.

The eighth film in the Fast & Furious franchise now has an official title:

The Fate of the Furious

God bless Vin Diesel and his crazy car chase franchise.

>>47409
>not The F8 of the Furious

>>47410

Give them a little credit for not going to that obvious well.

>>47410
Written by Vriska Serket?

>>47417
I don't get it.

>>47417

In-jokes don’t go over well with a general audience, y’know.

>>47418
>>47419
Vriska is a character from Homestuck. When she gets exited she replaces sounds that sound like 8. Examples include gr8/great, b8/bait, m8/mate.

>>47420

>Homestuck

In-jokes don’t go over well with a general audience, y’know.

>>47420
So do I in MLG videos. But you don't see me writing "Written by xXxMLG_c4mp3r_k1ll4_1337xXxswag ?"

OH SHIT, SON, #F8 JUST GOT REAL.

//youtube.com/watch?v=JwMKRevYa_M

>>47423
I can think of at least a dozen of more efficient ways to disable Dom's car, but it gets a pass because none of them would be as fast or furious as that wire trick.

>>47423
wait that Tank is from GI JOE.

Oh Shit what if this goes into that Universe. Dom went COBRA. Rest of the Furious movies are just Prequels to another Joe Reboot.

//youtube.com/watch?v=4tOa9W62Oxk

A recap of the history of the history of the upcoming Sony Barbie film. Another Screaming Train Wreck.

Millennial focused Barbie film, nah.

Nice on the email coverage showing that Dreamhouse wasn't thought of tough the videos were watched millions of times in different languages and did a better job at humorous deconstruction of Barbie than this wreck of a film will.

>>47430
Which version?

>>47431
Director's cut.

>>47432
So Final Cut may or may not be worth a look. As that is Ridley Scotts actual directors cut so its better put together than the earlier 90s directors cut. Better overal visuals and sound especially on blu ray. Nothing really added to the film just a few seconds longer of footage here or there for pacing. Also full Unicron Scene.

>>47436
It's not really the matter of which cut. I don't see the point of the movie.

Is is about how sad the artificial humans' 4 year lifespan is? Well, you don't need a 2 hour movie for that. Everyone in the audience would understand that it sucks, anyone could relate instantly.

Is it about how replicants should be treated like everyone else? That is obvious almost from the very start, since we see them being generally normal human-like beings, having compasion for each other, and only killing in self-defense. I don't remember seeing a replicant ever killing anyone truly innocent.

Is it about Deckard's journey from despising replicants to seeing them as people? Not sure about this one, since he keeps killing them as instructed, only sparing ONE, because he was not instructed to kill that time, and she not being a combat model. He does not spare the last one, the last replicant willingly surrenders and dies. Deckard was fully willing to kill him as well.

>>47439
>I don't see the point of the movie.
The point of the movie was to entertain and provide emotional catharsis the audience, as well as perhaps to show them intriguing visions of potential technologies and the ramifications thereof. And like every other story ever told in history, ultimately to discuss the nature of humanity.

>>47440
It presents ideas, but does not go far enough with any of them. Nothing is really resolved, the movie just ends.

>>47441

Welcome to life.

>>47442
Wanted to crack a joke, but decided not to.

/Bladerunner talk

>>47441
That's kinda the bit. We're put into a world that is in progress, a possible future. Might be part of the reason it effected so much that came after it.

I always found the main theme of Blade Runner to be of humanity ultimately being defined by the rebellion against its own nature. In one hand you have the Replicants: Pris is a sex model but is very innocent and childlike, Zhora is an assassin but she is who actually styles herself as a vixen and works as a stripper, and Roy being a warrior poet of sorts who is very well versed in science despite being a combat model. These guys in another movie would be the heroes.

On the other had you have Deckard, who knows nothing but hunting replicants and simply can't stop doing so, being more robotic in purpose and actions than the alleged artificial humans. If he is indeed another replicant, then it's even more poignant that Roy taught him a lesson of "just live, dammit", an that he actually took it to heart and finally fucked off along with Rachel.

>>47441
>Nothing is really resolved

I have to disagree with that. Again, the point of the climax is that Roy hammered into Deckard a desire of living, of being human.

I think your problem, Mister Twister, is that you didn't like the ambiguous morals or the "up for interpretation" nature of Blade Runner. Could you list off your top 9 or so favorite movies? I'm interested at just how much cinema you have seen.

>>47446
Don't tell me what to do, dad.

>>47450
Your mom is a big baby.

NEW TRAILERS, WATCH ’EM WHILE THEY’RE HOT:

Blade Runner 2049 — //youtube.com/watch?v=haXvp8M9Cog
John Wick: Chapter 2 — //youtube.com/watch?v=ChpLV9AMqm4

>>47461
Alright, this Bladerunner sequel better provide closure.

>>47468

Maybe sounds like the lifespan limit may have been eliminated. Judging New Guys line. Be something to find out why New Guy is looking for Deckard no Rachel to be seen likely means they didn't beat the timer. Or as the books had it put her in a suspended animation pod for a bit hoping to find the cure/fix.

Books got weird. made Tyrell a much more effed up monster.

>>47469
>Books got weird.

Yeah, if I recall correctly... everything happened in the span of one day, right? And, Deckard had a robot sheep pet.

Also, I recall Roy being much more of an asshole.

>>47481

Yea the books his friend did got even weirder. Whole bunch of Roys one in a box who hung around for a while and the Original Roy they based the template on deicded to chase Deckard for a while.

Then there was Sarah who showed up, sister of Rachel, sorta. And then Tyrell being a royal Asshole with Time Space Displacement Ships and mutation stuff straight out of Dead Space.

2016 does it again, that asshole. George Michael is dead.

>>47511

I guess Death decided Carrie Fisher was too strong to take right now.

>>47513

Even worse: He died of heart failure.

2016 is not without the cruelest sense of irony.

Since this might be missed due to the death of Carrie Fisher, I would like to note that author Richard Adams ("Watership Down") has also passed away.

>>47520
Briiiight eyyyyes...
Burrrning like fire...

;_;

2016 is not fucking around now. First it took Carrie Fisher, now it took her mother, Debbie Reynolds.

I fear 2017 will be even worse.

>>47534
Massive Quakes along the Nevada California border. Maybe decide to just take the entire state.

Past the season now but this is some of my favorite work from Wes Anderson.

//youtube.com/watch?v=VDinoNRC49c

This and Fantastic Mr.Fox I can watch over and over.

2016 gets in one last kick to the balls: William Christopher, best known as Father Mulcahy from "M*A*S*H", passed away today.

Sometimes the most obscure bands are some of the best
//youtube.com/watch?v=4lEAn4oRUhM

I think we could probably use something to laugh at right now, so let us laugh at how utterly horrible the new "Power Rangers" trailer looks! (Bonus: You get to witness one of the worst uses of a Kanye West song ever!)

//youtube.com/watch?v=5kIe6UZHSXw

>>47585
>I think we could probably use something to laugh at right now, so let us
>we
>us
Don't embrace the hivemind, friend. It will only end in tears.

>>47590

Embracing the hivemind would be doing what you tell me to do. Fuck that noise.

>>47585
Been through so many Ninja Turtle Reboots I'm more interested to see where this wants to go.

Lotta those set pieces for the HQ feel right out of Lost in Space.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-discovery-delayed-again-as-spocks-father-is-cast-965494

And Star Trek series is delayed again this time until "when its ready" basically.

>>47595

"Do you want it done fast, Err, or do you want it done right?"

>>47597

all well and good if this was going to be on broadcast. But this was supposed to be the flagship program on their digital service. Now that its been delayed twice that is now a Good Wife Spin Off.

That is going to blow their metrics to shit on what their expected subscribers were since they won't show up till Star Trek.

Same thing HBO has a problem with every time GOT ends its season.

>>47585
A bit late, but I just watched that Power Rangers trailer. Looks silly, but come on, Power Rangers. I am actually glad the actual movie looks extra dumb and campy, the first teaser made it look like they were attempting (and failing) to do a super serious take on the franchise.

>>47600

Hey, it is a kid's movie, and kids will probably have a fun time watching it. All power to that. But this movie was made partially to cash in on '90s nostalgia; so far, it has done little to win the nostalgia crowd over beyond the bare minimum of existing.

>>47601
Hopefully they have *something* more than nostalgia to bring interest to the film, because nobody really has nostalgia for Power Rangers. It's like what happened with the Speed Racer movie, yes people may be aware the IP exists but that doesn't necessarily equate to people being interested in said IP.

>>47604

On the bright side, "Speed Racer" turned out to be a goddamned masterpiece. I doubt the same will happen for "Power Rangers", but I would mind being surprised if it did.

>>47605

>would not mind

Gah. I really do need to proofread these things. So many mistakes sometimes.

If the notion ends up being Goldar not only being actual gold but being the source of all gold in the world. That could be something.

>>47605

If the sisters ever get back into the directing Big Leagues. I think Wacky Races would be right up their alley.

>>47610
Wouldn't the Wachowski's Wacky Races basically be Redline?

>>47604
I still think Speed Racer had no impact at the box office because it came out the same weekend as The Dark Knight iirc

>>47612

"Speed Racer" was released two months before "The Dark Knight". The former bombed at the box office partially because the property itself did not have the nostalgic presence in pop culture that studios are exploiting these days. (I do not recall if the advertising for the movie was any good. The film's overall tone and content probably did not help, either.) I hate that "Speed Racer" bombed, too, because it is a sincere - and sincerely fun - movie. That last race is still one of the best climaxes I have ever seen.

>>47613
>That last race is still one of the best climaxes I have ever seen.
In more senses than one, absolutely. I'll have to reread the reviews from back then, I get that it wasn't critically well-received but I'm still not completely sure what they found wrong with it that I didn't.

>>47617

I would assume that the odd narrative style, the cartoonish colour palette, and the "overuse" of CGI were major factors that led to people initially writing the film off.

>>47618
it actually used CGI where it was needed not like now where a whole set is a nightmarish CGI set for no reason.

Real shame that it got dumped on the way it did.

Maybe part of it was Hollywood obsession with wanting Directors to only work on certain films

2017 gets its first "major" celebrity death: Mary Tyler Moore.

>>47627
Celebrity deaths are now a meme.

>>47628

Speaking of which: John Hurt has passed away.

>>47634
Not surprising, the guy had pancreatic cancer, which more or less is a death sentence.

>>47636
Really wish I could have gotten a War Doctor figure that wasn't a literal headswap

Watched the newest Resident Evil flick. Was invited by a friend, and I still feel ripped off. Holy shit, it was abysmal.

And I am pretty sure it's the "final chapter" only in the sense that the next movie will be a reboot of the series.

>>47638
That bad, even compared to the others?

>>47639
Yes. Makes absolutely no sense (there are a couple of plot twists that are asspulls of the highest order), the action was terrible shakycam bullshit, and the CGI effects were embarrasing.

... I do reckon all of that sounds par for the course, but it was extra bad. Plus, you'd think that for the "last" film in the series they would put some effort to leave it in a relatively high note, but NOPE, it was even more half-assed than usual.

I read a recap of the film. Wesker supposedly still has all his badass T-Virus powers and shit, and he could not avoid having his leg chopped off and bleeding out? Bullshit. His death, the sudden Heel-Face Turn of The Red Queen, and the lack of a proper transition between "Retribution" and "Final Chapter" send a clear message: The screenwriters did not care at all about finishing this series after "Retribution" dug them into a hole from which they could not escape. They put about as much effort into writing the script as I did into my last fart.

The live-action "Resident Evil" films are monumentally dumb films, but from what I have read about it, "Final Chapter" is the dumbest of all six. Hollywood should just let Capcom do those CGI films from now on.

>>47644

Sadly they were largely self indulgent pieces anyway. Better just to watch an LP of Seven. One that saves Mia since that seems to be an overall better story

Super Bowl Stranger Things 2 Trailer. Shits gonna do Ghostbusters better than 2016. Yea that's not really a challenge but hey STRANGER THINGS 2.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/foxs-apb-is-the-latest-show-to-misunderstand-robocop.html

This is a good read.

Since we do not have a pro wrestling thread or whatever: Bray Wyatt finally won a world title.

About fuckin' time, WWE!

>>47686

People fall on and off the main roster and onto the disabled list/or the bottom rung that I forget to pay attention. Hope it was a good match.

>>47687

He won it in an Elimination Chamber Match, and I hear it was a good one. I am just happy he finally won it; he needed a big win to keep the gimmick afloat after several years of accomplishing near-nothing worth a damn on the main roster.

>>47688
Wonder if they'll switch up now that he won the belt. Get him up with a new one.

>>47686
This stuff's all scripted right? So winning one of these things is more like winning the Oscars than a black belt right.

>>47690

Pro wrestling is scripted, yes. But the act of putting a world title on someone is generally seen as a reward for hard work — that is, in bringing fans to shows and getting them to buy tickets and merch. There are always exceptions to this idea; Vince McMahon winning the then-WWF Championship, for example, was just part of the "Austin v McMahon: Dawn of Texas Justice" storyline. But the general gist is that if someone gets a world title, they are considered a good enough performer to deserve a shot at holding down the top of the card.

Bray Wyatt has been one of the most consistently popular and well-liked performers ever since he got the gimmick back down in FCW. (FCW was WWE's developmental territory before the company established NXT.) He cut great promos and he wrestled great matches. When he was pushed to the main roster alongside Erick Rowan and Luke Harper, The Wyatt Family became an instant hit. Bray winning a world title felt like a matter of "when", not "if"…and winning a title far earlier than last night would have really helped give the Wyatt Family some more direction with its storylines. But hey, better late than never, right? Worked out for Samoa Joe in TNA! (It did not work out for Samoa Joe in TNA.)

>>47691
The roster really needs some strengthening least as far as RAW is concerned as I've heard Smackdown has gotten better over the last year or so.

>>47691
Still hard to get really good wrestlers. You've got some while their technical skill (are great in the ring doing moves) is great they can't sell a persona for shit. And some vice versa.

Where is the whole Face/Heel Dichotomy nowadays? I remeber things got Weird in the Attitude Era with Anti-Heroes a aplenty. Is there a clear difference nowadays or does that even matter?

>>47693

Most promotions tend to do the shades-of-grey thing, in that faces get to act like assholes, but as long as they do it toward heels, they still get cheered. Of course, this can backfire if, say, the babyface is getting a Cena-level megapush. *coughreignscough*

The dichotomy does still matter, however, as the "good vs evil" idea is the backbone of storytelling in modern pro wrestling. But with modern takes on morality being what they are (and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin having been the success that he was), "good" and "evil" are relative only to who is being the biggest asshole. Even then, the babyface can end up being a bigger asshole than the heel and still be positioned as the babyface in their feud; the Rusev/Dolph Ziggler feud from a couple of years ago proved that.

>>47694
I've heard the main problem they've had with getting Cena up to Hogan status is that he doesn't want to be the hero as much as Hogan did. He'll play the part but he won't BE the part.

It is appropriate to note this piece of movie trivia today: Only two men have ever played characters that were killed by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator. One was Lance Henriksen.

The other was Bill Paxton.

>>47729
Not sure how Lance Henriksen counts, Bishop wasn't really killed by the Queen.

And just so the day can pile on a little more pain: Joseph Wapner, best known as the long-serving judge of "The People's Court", died at the age of 97.

Damn '17 getting that ball rolling again. Wapner was a given at some point. But Paxton, damn that's shit.

>>47734
Neither Moonlight nor Lalaland were the better movie of the bunch.

>>47735
Moonlight checked more boxes after last years non controversy. The way Hollywood has been fawning over LA LA Land the entire season. I wouldn't doubt race was a factor in the decision.

Also fuck them giving Suicide Squad anything. Warner Bros will get the mistaken impression they did something right.

>>47735
YMMV but for me Moonlight wins automatically because it's not a goddamn musical.

>>47737
No matter how much Hollywood drooled over it

>>47736
For some reason, I thought, for some time, that La La Land was a very old movie.

Also, interestingly enough, there is a label called La La Land and it releases soundtracks.

>>47739

That's understandable as this was a very nostalgic film. Moreover for Hollywood than anyone else hence their love for it and hopes they had.

Personally, I found Arrival and Manchester by the Sea to be the best nominees, but both Moonlight and LaLaLand were pretty good films.

>>47742
That looks like a ship that would cost ten thousand times as much to produce as a less ostentatious one would cost. If it's meant to be used in situations where it can get damage (which is, honestly, being used in ANY situation in space, but especially in situations where it might come into battle) extra strength idiotic.

It looks like an artisanal ship carved by hand by Klingons from Portland out of space driftwood over the course of three decades. Not like a mass produced warship.

>>47742
If it's part organic it would be fine. But I don't actually know that much about Star Trek.

>>47742

>Netflix funding the production.

Yea I knew CBS would get uneasy about funding a Digital show with full Network budgets.

Do wonder if Netflix will get cheesed enough at the delays to actually pull out of the agreement.

Also with the future of Paramount in the wind after that Oscar incident enhancing that.

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2017/03/10/ghost-in-the-shell-worse/

Welp.

>>47760
>https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2017/03/10/ghost-in-the-shell-worse/

Eh knew they couldn't handle just someone trying to find out who they were. Expound a bit on the episodes where she actually put a thought towards what she was and how she came to be.

Her finding her old platform in a thrift shop along with the model used by her childhood friend would have been a fine launching point. Don't really have to use the same plot but her trying to find him could have worked.

Why is it Blade Runner got it right and now everything that tries to do what it did with the mediums it spawned ends up failing.

Cameron just needs to give up on Battle Angel right now.

>>47761

>Why is it Blade Runner got it right and now everything that tries to do what it did with the mediums it spawned ends up failing.

Tangible details are easier to copy.

>>47762
I do hope its Sequel can keep it together.

Either way I'm sure Cyberpunk 2077 will show how its done right.

>>47760
Pretty much what I expected. The aesthetics are the only good part of the trailer and everything else seems like generic crap that completely butchers the Ghost in the Shell license.

>>47764
Its what to be expected form those that really don't read the souce materials and just pull massive amounts of nonsense from their backside.

I mean it would have been a rather simple story to elaborate on the plot of her wanting to find her past and aslo the childhood friend. But no they had to twist it into some crap about her being a Super weapon and being forced into employment.

If the massive fuck-up that we call “the DCEU” is not enough to make you dislike Warner Bros., TRY THIS ON FOR SIZE:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/matrix-reboot-works-at-warner-bros-986292

>>47767
Well Wonder Woman still looks like it might be OK. I hope.

>>47767

DCEU floundering about Warner Bros is looking got that really big Billion plus Blockbuster Series. Fantastic Beasts did well enough but didn't break that magic number they keep shooting for.

Without the Wachowskis sibs I don't think it would work. It would just be a hollow mess like Reboot Robocop.

I agree with Keanu if they aren't part of it then its a no go.

>>47768
Maybe but I straight up hate her theme every time it comes up. Because its so damn jarring and distracting. The constant rumble drums the riffs. Too damn aggressive of a song that just tears me from the scene.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_o7XUX3fg

Should be something Legendary and Old.

Taking off from the Lyre recreations that people have done with what Fragments of Greek scores they've found.

//youtube.com/watch?v=elERNFoEf3Y

Add that to something that someone put together from neighboring cultures and such.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Eh51m6glEHo

Get something I can at least see Wonder Woman a bit when I listen to it.

That's just my feeling on it.

The first two seasons of “Lucha Underground” are now on Netflix.

Fuck yeah.

Listening to a live recording of Ben Hur Live by Stewart Copeland and orchestra in Germany.

The things you get off the Internet, it really makes one love the place.

Nick Mason on Chuck Berry's accomplishments:
https://www.channel4.com/news/interview-with-nick-mason-of-pink-floyd

>>47775

been digging Samurai Gourmet. The culinary adventures of a retired Salary Man. For good and bad.

Netflix released a trailer for its American live-action “Death Note” adaptation today.

//youtube.com/watch?v=zS9UW2xjdqE

As you might expect, fans are pissed.

>>47785
>urban/high school thriller
WHY? Sure it's a way to differentiate it from the other movies that are already out there, but why?
At least L looks kinda cool if that's him in the mask.

>>47786

Literally the only good thing about this trailer is Willem Dafoe as Ryuk. Inspired fuckin’ casting there. But Dafoe aside, nothing about this movie — the setting, the actors, the cinematography — looks good.

In better news: MOVIE SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGN is just over three weeks away!

//youtube.com/watch?v=5ct0Z2bQndM

>>47790

http://www.npr.org/event/music/521273418/gorillaz-announces-new-album-hits-haunted-house-in-saturnz-barz-video

//youtube.com/watch?v=1xCdJLWm9e4
I wish I could be as optimistic about the DN remake as this guy is.

I saw the new Power Rangers movie yesterday. Better than I expected, but not amazing. I felt the strongest aspect of it was how the movie had teenagers that didn't make me want to rip my eyes out from how overly modern or hip movies like to write teenagers as. I also liked how more diverse the Rangers were and felt that even though it was awkward at first, but it grew on me. The donut store BS was garbage and was only a hindrance.

>>47824
I am 100% sure that the people making the film made the Krispy Kreme product placement as ridiculously in-your-face as possible on purpose. Like, an studio exec told them "Guys, Krispy Kreme paid 30 millions to be in the film, so it beter be a LOT of donuts in the film", and the writers and director were all "aw, what the hell, lets do this".

And it sorta worked, at least in my theater there was a point where some people actually started to laugh when they said "Krispy Kreme" for the umpteenth time, and by the scene with Rita in the donut shop the whole place lost it.

>>47824
I really fucking hate all the designs for the suits and monsters. It's a series based on product placement, what good is it if nothing about it makes you want to even buy the toys? I'm glad the teenager bullshit ended up being not actually bullshit, but it feels like the opposite of what a Power Rangers movie should be. That stuff would've probably been better spent on a new IP.

>>47826

We've seen that attempt a few times. Always burns out.

//youtube.com/watch?v=5dCJ7a1QjfE

Such a strange ad. With a better Skeletor costume than it has any right to be.

>>47831

I have no idea what they were selling, but it was too much fun for me to care anyway.

>>47835
British Price Compression Website. But yea it doesn't matter. More Epic Skeletor.

>>47835
British insurance comparison websites have become a national institution over the last decade. See GoCompare's Welsh opera tenor and CompareTheMarket.com's Russian meerkats:
//youtube.com/watch?v=M0mXUC0cUPg

This is the latest in a long string of delightfully "He Used MoneySupermarket And Now He Feels EPC" adverts originally narrated by Patrick Stewart.

Adverts like this one have become so woven into the national fabric that it's easy to forget how incredibly fucking weird they must look to foreigners.

>>47837

>it's easy to forget how incredibly fucking weird they must look to foreigners

“800-588-2300 - EMPIRE!”, the Shirley Temple DVD Collection ad (“ANIMAL CRACKERS IN MAH SOUP”), “CALL J.G. WENTWORTH, 877-CASH-NOW”, and basically every advertisement for Sonic (“The hedgehog?” “No, the fast-food place.”) remind me that every country has its own different version of “weird”. I’ll take oddball pop culture references done with flair and humor over 90% of the ads we get in the States.