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/mtv/ General: Purple Rain Edition

I started the last one off with the death of a musician, and this one unfortunately coincides with another.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Also reportedly found dead today/late yesterday: Joanie Laurer, better known to the world as professional wrestler Chyna.

This year fucking blows.
Who's next.
Well Merle Haggard went earlier this month. Music and Wrestling, what the heck is going on?
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Yeah, ECW “original” Balls Mahoney died earlier this month, too.
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Guy Hamilton also died yesterday.

If you don't know who Hamilton was, well, he directed a little movie you may have heard about, Goldfinger.

He also directed pic related, an action film I adore for its pure 80s campiness.
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The Jungle Book was fun! After Iron Man 2 and Cowboys & Aliens, it's great to see Jon Favreau riding high again. Although, I hear Chef is good, but I haven't watched it.

I'm hearing talks of a live action Lion King now, which I could totally see happening.
So are they just going to remake all their movies into live action now? I'm really curious to see how they'll do Mulan and everything, and how much the fuckup influence the Chinese government is going to have on it.
Live Action Lion King be cool. Could really dial up the Shakespeare.
Damn, Papa Wemba just died too.
Jungle Book was good, although I got to say, while you can make Baloo singing Bare Necessities work, you can't try to have Louie come off as serious and then abruptly break into I Wanna Be Like You, that's just jarring.
The song actually has a very sinister meaning going on that scene, didn't feel out of place for me.
It just comes off as musical-y after they went to great lengths to make Bear Necessities come off naturally. To the point where when Mowgli and Baloo sing it together they are tripping over each other cacaphonously like two buds singing together would instead of perfectly harmonizing with each other like a musical number
This. I thought they pulled Bear Necessities off very nicely. Be Like You was awkward as hell.
Again, pretty sure that was the point, in that scene King Louie is an evil asshole awkwardly pretending to be friendly and nice to a kid he despises. The reprisal during the crefits is much more natural and silly like in the animated movie.
No, as in
metatextually awkward.
In what sense? Sorry, not following.
Just in the sense I, personally, found it to be inserted for the sake of insertion instead of actually used for plot purposes.

I seem to be in the minority, now that I've talked to a few friends about it.

So Tonight Show to become more Colbert without the satire? Lets see if that plays to a network audience.

Maybe its what they wanted but haven't gotten.
Cineplex pre show can be so silly sometimes.
"Ratchet and Clank are a pair of unlikely heroes! Here's a montage of unlikely heroes from movies!"
And then it's mostly okay, but Man of Steel is in there too.
Because everyone knows Superman is the most unlikely hero of them all.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

They’re kinda right about MoS!Superman, though.
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y

What the fuck.

I just like watching this unfold. Also puts shuffling Supergirl off to another network in perspective possibly.

I'd liked to have seen Hardbolid Drew.
It's a tight race between Ghostbusters and DCEU fans for most whiniest fanbase.
I kind of fell like the internet would be a way better place if we got rid of all the nerds.
Mister Twister
Why would you have such negative implications when talking about yourself?
If you're going to attempt to "zing" someone, you really need to work on your delivery.
He is right, though. Not too long ago *WE* were the nerds.
if you still post here, you're a fucking nerd.
Way better than the last one.
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These Beyond movie posters are stunning.
>As for Karl Urban - he doesn't even ride a bike in the movie, he just asked me to use a picture of him on one for the poster. He emailed me saying "hey i look cool, don't i? put that in" so I did in the little corner there.
I am curious, the bad guy, is he a Jem'Hadar?
Possibly if the Beyond is about them getting thrown into the Gamma Quadrant by some force.
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Pink Panther on solo guitar by two different people:
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Note the difference in skill.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Look, you can trash his films all you want, but don’t you dare shittalk him for doing things like this.
Its rather nice looking dog. Real happy pup. Maybe he'll make Optimus decide that earth isn't all bad.
Mister Twister
Isn't that an attempt to gain publicity? He could have done the same thing, but without telling the media.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

He wants to find the dog a home. He has a huge platform with which he can spread the story of this dog and hopefully find it a home. If he can simultaneously get a little press for his movie...well, what's the harm in that?
Mister Twister
None, I guess. Just cannot take claims of altruism seriously.
Yes it's well established that you are 13.
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The GOAT has passed.
Mister Twister
Okay, while that is a good comeback, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
>because you are 13
Mister Twister
Holy shit. Thought it was a joke or something, until checking other sources.
He was admitted into the hospital the other day for respiratory problems. It was only a matter of time.

Yea he was suffering for years from Parkinson syndrome so last I heard. Brought on from his boxing career.
>John Boyega in Pacific Rim sequel
Let's hope it doesn't die for the umpteenth time.
Alf died. RIP
Yea. Wonder if Netflix still has it available.

>Comcast hopes to breathe new life into Shrek and crank out as many as four animated movies a year following its acquisition of DreamWorks Animation.

Cute they want to compete with Disney. I mean its not like that is what got Dreamworks in this current state, oh wait.


>Comcast hopes to breathe new life into Shrek.

No, for all that is good in the world. Just no.

Difference between Disney acquisitions and this is that Disney already had a standing with the companies it brought in and setup groups to spearhead their pushes in both cases enhancing what already existed.

All I hear from these guys in this and other articles on this topic is a whole lotta wants but no clear understanding of how to generate that plan for success.

I don't see it working at all as smoothly as they think it will. Regardless that insane notion "We bought it because we could afford it and we've still got plenty of money."

My biggest fear is that they'll destroy what Netflix has worked with Dreamworks to build which is what it sounds like NBC/Universal wants to do. But since its not theirs and they have no want or understanding of streaming and it'll all be destroyed.

Numerous times TV executives in general have been myopic as hell talking about Streaming as if it was just a fad. "They'll come back to us, and we'll be waiting."

People have been cord cutting at increasing numbers for nearly a decade now. Its not going to stop. People don't want to be tethered to a network schedule nor their couch for entertainment.

And from what I've read they still don't get it so I don't think this will go any better.

And in sports

>The company lost about $150 million from the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, but expects to “make a lot of money in Rio” with the Summer Olympics in August. Indeed, he believes NBC will to beat the record audience from the 2012 London games “because this is a live Olympics.”

>“America for 17 days basically puts other things aside and falls in love with the Olympics,” Burke says.

Yea its not like a virulent outbreak that could take out a number of the teams and will cause the withdraw of some countries could affect coverage. Nah nothing like that.
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>more Shrek
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>more Shrek
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>more Shrek
And honestly, I'm still surprised that DreamWorks stopped Shrek movies when they did last time.
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>more Shrek
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>shore Mrek
>More Sequels


Guessing Minions looks to have peaked for them.

Always very interested to see how this goes. Like watching a Episode 1 "Pilot" and then an Episode one "series."

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I wonder how many beats will remain the same from this trailer into the new production.
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I'll forever be fascinated by the fabled horribleness of this film.
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So Rocky Horror remake television event and Lethal Weapon and Exorcist series. Fox is coming up with some odd ideas.

To Note I could see Rocky Horror working as a series. Setup the same but have the Good Doctor regale them with strange tales from their past. Two hour made for TV remake is gonna be odd.
Aww shit, Chekov from the Star Trek movies just died. Wonder how they're going to deal with that.
T4 was here
What how?
Link please!

Wrecked and was trapped between his car and a brick mailbox.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Fuck 2016.
Its just been a horrific year and we're just now coming up on July. I know a handful that I worry for. Sir Ian being one high on that list. And if he goes then Sir Patrick goes as well.
Mister Twister
This was a great year for me so far, so take that back.
Having never watched either the original Star Trek or the movies I don't know who Chekov is, but shit. Dude was only 27. That's terribly young.
Keeps telling me I have adblock on, even though I disabled it like they said.
>Sir Ian being one high on that list

If there is a list, Kirk Douglas must be on top of it
>99 Years

Alpharius on the move
Just came back from watching The Conjuring 2. It wasn't as subtle with its daemons as the first (or as much as I can recall the first being subtle), but still worth the price of admition. Surprisingly good children actors and top-notch clothing and other setting props n background stuff.

>Director Genndy Tartakovsky (DEXTER’S LABORATORY, STAR WARS: CLONE WARS), who returns to helm this brand new adventure, says, “I thought I was done exploring the world of HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA after the first two films, but while I was away from the franchise finishing my TV show SAMURAI JACK, an idea sparked that I got really excited about and made it irresistible to return and helm myself this third adventure."

Good I want to see him continue to get work and get Animators on the radar. Not happy that Sandler is Executive Producer but just gotta deal I guess.

>• HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA: THE TELEVISION SERIES is targeted for a 2017 airdate. The animated television series, produced in partnership with Corus Entertainment’s Nelvana, will focus on the teenage years of Mavis, Dracula’s daughter, and her friends. It will be airing on the Disney Channel worldwide.

>• CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF MEATBALLS is slated for its television series incarnation airdate in 2017. The 2D animated small-screen series, produced in partnership with DHX Media and commissioned by TELETOON in Canada, will expand on the adventures of the computer-animated feature films and will air on Cartoon Network in the U.S. and Turner channels across EMEA, APAC and Latin American markets.
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Lifelines is a kickass album from a-ha. And 15 tracks long, too!

Listening to it now, warming up to what I previously perceived as "lesser" songs.
So Bryan Cranston is going to be in the new Power Rangers. How poetic.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>No more half-measures, Rita.

Yes I know he didn’t say that line but fuck it I didn’t want to go for one of the easier references.
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So, out of fucking nowhere, guitarist of one of my favorite bands, a band who's song I added to +4 radio, died.
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Bud Spencer is dead. 2016 keeps being an absolute asshole.

Sadly, most of my american friends over the internet, have no idea who is Bud Spencer.
>Bud Spencer

Damn, I loved his and Terrance Hill's movies.

Trinity films are a favorite of mine.

Hey guys, you know what needs to be a trilogy? Tetris, yes Tetris because of all the setting and characters that have been introduced over the years. Remember?!

God I hate filmmakers with "vision".
Kinda just want to see a movie with a drunken Russian building walls.
rasputin_zero !!e9Z+3lbULwW
I've said this before, but I'd find a movie exploring the story behind Tetris more interesting than whatever the fuck they're trying with this nonsense.
Oh yeah, a thousand times.

Like, I'm one who's willing to defend a lot of these dumb licensed Hollywood movies with insane sources (like Monopoly, or Stretch Armstrong) but Tetris, as a game, has so little narrative built in that it just seems idiotic.
....yeah ok, I can see that.

Isn't that called a documentary?
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Ah that time Dwayne Johnson's grandfather fought Sean Connery.

Looks like The Black Panther movie is gearing up production. Filming starts in January 2017

Unnamed Disney film finding actors


Because everyone DEMANDED a forth film.



I don't have any hope for ether of these.
Love the provide own costume bit.

Cool I hope the movie goes well so that Pacific Rim 2 gets some promotion.
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Oh my!

That's fine, long as they don't take time out of the film to keep bringing it up just show him with a photo or listening to an audio log Mass Effect style.

Guess Sulu the younger will be an adopted daughter if she shows up. Maybe a half Vulcan refugee or something.
Or just from a surrogate mother. Maybe she'll still be named Demora. Like the article said it's just going to be treated as a normal thing, so probably he'll call his husband and daughter to say goodbye before heading out or look at a family photo of them together.
Didn't Sulu have a girlfriend at some point in the original series? And the reboot versions are supposed to be the original cast just younger right? Either he was that deep in the closet or he's technically Kinsey-5 bisexual but called gay for the convenience.

Let's go with Timey Wimey changes made this iteration gay. Not like there is anyone in the timeline to bring it up... Fuck I made myself sad.
Make Him Gay, Respect Takei
Oil him up and get him screaming around the set.

In an interesting and kinda unexpected twist, George Takei does NOT want for Sulu to be gay, as according to him that isn't how Rodenberry conceived the character.
I get his point, in the same way I think it's usually better to introduce original characters like Rey, Finn, and Poe who were always belonging to underrepresented groups, than to rely on hand-me-downs for representation by Xwashing preexisting characters, like recasting Luke or Han in later adaptations with black actors.
On the other hand Sulu had like one female love interest ever and it didn't even work out. He's not vigorously heterosexual the way Kirk is (no matter how much rabid Kirk/Spock shippers insist homophobic studio execs put in Uhura as a beard to "cover up" his canon gayness for Spock). So I don't think a whole lot of vision is really being changed there.

Could roll with whomever ends up replacing Chekhov. Not to be crass or anything about that tragic event.
>On the other hand Sulu had like one female love interest ever and it didn't even work out. He's not vigorously heterosexual the way Kirk is (no matter how much rabid Kirk/Spock shippers insist homophobic studio execs put in Uhura as a beard to "cover up" his canon gayness for Spock). So I don't think a whole lot of vision is really being changed there.

Hell, make him bi and you don't even really have to change or explain anything. The fact that you dated a girl at one point doesn't mean you're straight. Still get LGBT representation, and for one of the least well represented groups around (bisexual men), but don't have to do any retcons to make it sensible.

In fact, if you don't have him specifically use the phrase "I'm homosexual" or something, people who have a problem with him having dated a girl in one continuity can headcanon the explanation however they want--bisexuality, midpoints on the Kinsey scale, "If it's you it's okay" (in either direction), or whatever else floats their boat. Point is just that he's romantically involved with a man.
Just go the Riker route. He's way more a hedonist than Kirk and his modus is "If I fid them attractive then I'll fuck them."
On a similar subject.

Their was talk about the next or one after that James bond being a "Jane Bond". Reason I call this similar is would it be easier just to write a female Super Spy as a lesbian rather than have her seduce countless men. Not talking anything about titillation but just the perception of her character.

James has always been a bit of a sleaze when it comes to seducing women and I don't know if that attitude toward the opposite sex would work coming from a woman to a main stream audience.

Hence my question of making her a lesbian as that's not something that has been brought up in talks yet.

Be interesting. Mainstream Movie Action Female openly seducing women. Be the only one to my knowledge since that trait was scrapped from the Lara Croft reboot.
A lady bond would be neat but Idris Elba needs to be next
Oh for sure. Watching his stuff he'd be a very good Bond. Likely very close in Tone to Ian Fleming original.
I actually really like the idea. Its not a vaccum, gender dynamics are still a thing, so I don't really see any mainstream audience flick using a literally inverted gender play.

So... yeah. I'd be into a gay Jane Bond.

But yeah agreed, after Elba.

It's sadly funny how far film and television will let a lesbian or gay character go in something that isn't a comedy before someone dies. Heard this past year was particularly brutal in drama shows with gay and lesbian characters. Person of Intrest Root being one of the most recent I think.

I think Legend of Korra was one of the scant few to get it across the finsh line without killing one of them, which I find oddly humorous.
Well, in Korra's case the show the lesbian thing literally was the finish line.
They're bi. Sorry but I get kinda triggered when people call Korra and Asami lesbians because too many fans of the ship are honest-to-god bisexual haters who insist that the two are 100% lesbian and that Mako was a beard instead of someone they were genuinely attracted to at some point, and if you claim otherwise you're a "lesbophobe", even though Bryke explicitly said they're bisexuals and not lesbians.

Might be the only way to ever had it work without someone getting killed. Never have a couple hook up till the last episode. Gives me a thought.

Apologies, just being expedient.

I know that she is its just that any other show if she's paried up earlier the finish line would likely have been a solo run or she'd rebounded to Mako, which was a fake out at their last episode (and something his VA kept trolling with).
>even though Bryke explicitly said they're bisexuals and not lesbians

>(Despite what you might have heard, bisexual people are real!)
Biphobic people might keep trying to twist it around to say Bryke didn't specifically mean Korra and Asami so they can keep insisting they're exclusive lesbians, but it's pretty obvious in context who they're talking about here.
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New Gorrilaz in the works.
Korra is still one of my favorite Superhero stories. She's got near godlike power she wants to do good and struggles with finding out how that works in the world she's in. She doesn't always do it right and its not always perfect but she keeps trying.

Get a lot better Superman vibe out of her than Snyder's take.

That's multiple years holding the top spot. Kudos to whomever is his agent.

I rather like the guy even if he's not hit that massive blockbuster yet.
>even if he's not hit that massive blockbuster yet.

Furious 7?
>checking, he's been in FnF 5-8

Ohh, I did not know he's pretty much a regular for the series.

So doubly cool that this ones a good one for him.
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So, Mew recorded a new song:
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Is this what's concerted good these days?

Demystifying Jason with a shitty origin story would've been awful. The other long-rumored idea swirling around this project - a "found footage" film - would've been equally as shitty. A period piece with no real attempt at an origin story for Jason is probably as good an idea as they'll get without going for a self-aware Jason X-style approach again.
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Okay then.
People keep saying the armors look like Ironman, but to me, they look more like the Guyver.
What the hell. Power Rangers is supposed to be all about the shiny plastic look.
I'm not sure how I feel about it. I don't hate the look, but I'm just not entirely on board either.

Besides that, yellow ranger looks stacked as hell.
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Which I'm perfectly okay with. Just looks like a bit of a different iteration of the Upgraded Armored Up suits from the old movie.
So they're not replacing Chekov. That's good, would've been kinda tasteless anyhow.

That's to be expected. Maybe his post could go to an Orion or Andorian bot races have a similar temperaments to humans. An Orion Male would be an interesting addition as that's not one I believe has shown up much in Star Trek.

Also be a humorous moment. Kirk thinks he's getting a new Orion lady playmate and its some big broad shouldered military minded fella. The Worf of his time I'd say to be to the point.
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Atlest you have the toys then.
Okay, a new Blair Witch film. Whatevs.

At least it isn't a reboot.

Paramount promoting Beyond as a generic action movie really hurt the film. The mixed reception to Into Darkness probably didn't help Beyond either. Disappointing, since everyone says this is the best modern Star Trek film yet.

Trek 4 is still a go and the film will be a financial success regardless, but I hope Paramount doesn't do anything stupid with the franchise to try and make Marvel money.
Netflix got the MST3K revival. Premiere date? In the not-too-distant future.
Sweet. Interested to see how the new crew plays and riffs together.

Kinda want to see Klingons get more into this. Not something that sets them as the opposition as that was done a bit too much. But something that effects them enough to send an emissary to the Federation to serve on its flagship.

Star Trek Discovery


Ship a cross between Federation and Klingon tech judging by the design. Really hope they just stick it on the network since the fall slate is pretty barren and I don't know if anyone will subscribe to their digital service just for one show. Really should have just let Netflix run with it since they know how to handle serialized shows and they won't get twitchy like network executives are bound to do.
Alpharius on the move
I just came out of Beyond. I was pleasantly surprised and pleased. I avoided the new Star Trek movies, but I now want to go back and watch the others.

I wasn't prepared to cry, but fuck, those few mentionings of Leonard Nemoy Spock hit me way harder than I thought possible.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>I avoided the new Star Trek movies, but I now want to go back and watch the others.

Don't bother. NuTrek 1 is watchable, but not great, and NuTrek 2: Khan Boogaloo is complete crap. You're better off thinking Beyond is the real start of the NuTrek films.
Alpharius on the move
Now that I think of it, I should just do that chronological marathon of all the Star Trek series I've been putting off.
Not them but I'm in the same situation, good to know. Is there anything important in the first film or does wiki do the job?
>Don't bother. NuTrek 1 is watchable, but not great
Its a fun movie! Dredd and Charlie Bartlett made that movie for me. It felt kinda like Harry Potter in Space!
2009 Trek has to be watched, arguing otherwise is kinda ridiculous. The film establishes the new setting and the changes to the continuity, plus the passing of the torch between Spocks is pretty great.

Into Darkness is 100% avoidable, nothing of importance happens there other than being a very poor attempt to redo Khan (SPOILERS: Kirk dies instead of Spock, but he gets revived five minutes later so who gives a shit). Hell, I actually think NuTrek works better jumping from the first film to Beyond.
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Stranger Things. I do love me some jumping into the deep end of good 70-80s horror films.

Gotta watch the series.
Should have just been someone else that wasn't Kahn. Have Admiral Robocop dredge up some other relic from earths past and upgrade them with the future Romulan stuff.

I wouldn't mind seeing some mid 21st Century Robots or something. A top secret project to best the Augments. PROJECT: IRON CROSS
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>'Power Rangers': Alpha 5, Dinozords & Original Theme Song Confirmed

I'm perfectly fine with our new green garbage can bondage queen.
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Sequel better have our boy.

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Though really what more could you do with a dude that looks like he had all the flesh flayed from his body.
I fully expect Nu-Rita to change into something that resembles the old costume at some point of the movie.

Because seriously, what's the point of calling her Rita Repulsa if nothing on her design even loosely reminds you of the character.
Maybe she starts in the Brown Frump and Madonna Bra. Then changes or powers up and dons the Green Bondage Gear.

Takes the Green power for herself till she's defeated and then setups using whats left of that power to create her own ranger.

So basically back to doing Colbert Report. Just a little different.
I hope they can retain the momentum the show's picked up over the last two weeks covering the conventions. I'll admit those made me tune back in after losing interest.
He'll be able to keep it up through the Election I think. Beyond that depends on who gets elected. Judging by current trends. I'd say he's got at least a fair shot at four years of lampooning.
So, anybody catch Preacher?
Now that everything is done, it all came together okay, I think.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

I forgot that sound is also bigger in IMAX.
Maybe it's me being old, but it gives me a headache.
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If you have Netflix and haven't watching Stranger Things. Then you must do so.

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Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
And thus, Hollywood became an ouroboros, destined only to eat itself to death.


Eh I don't see even half of those being Blockbuster level.

Deadpool is going to be on the same budget as before so its going to do fine regardless.
I recall Cracked publishing pretty much the same article last year, only it was about how the superhero genere "bubble" was TOTES gonna burst fo' real
if you want to be technical we've been in a Superhero "bubble" for about half a century. No matter how much Hollywood doesn't want to admit that.
Most superhero movies didn't really start doing very well until about twenty years ago at the most. Batman movies were an exception, but they were also often seen as campy nerd faire rather than serious blockbusters.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Yeah, the current trend started with, what, the first X-Men movie? Blade?
Yeah the article is pretty ridiculous, but the idea that the current business model for hollywood isn't sustainable is kind of reasonable.
Superman showed that it could actually work but yea getting more mainstream current era in the late 90s.
Not sure if this is the right board for it, but has anyone seen/read the new Harry Potter play? Because I can't stop fucking laughing at some of the spoilers.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Well, it’s as good a board as any.
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Nerd Cubed has a massive rage spoiler about how Fan Fiction it was. I've read some fanficiton in my time and it sure was one of those.

Such strange character choices.
Yeah, it was definitely fanfictiony.

I mean, I guess its canon, and no matter what they did, the mere concept of The Gaang Has Kids is fanfictiony in and of itself.
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Worst part of the Harry Potter play, is giving me the mental image of these two fucking.
I know Rowling isn't as great of a writer as people claim she is, and part of what made the books popular was the way it mixed imagination and whimsy with occasional relatable adolescent drama. But still I expected the person who wrote Prisoner of Azkaban to be able to make something more coherent, and to not bring back the damn Time Turner.
Oh and I know Rowling isn't the only person who worked on the script. But she did do the scenario and give the OK on it.
Mister Twister
Now I am not regretting reading that.

Anyway, have some quality music from the 70s from the jazz-rock maestro Roy Wood:
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So was that whole Hermione thing non starter since she's now basically considered useless in alternate timelines where she doesn't get with Ron.
Star Trek Beyond is pretty great guys. Simon Pegg and Doug Jung, ya did good. And RIP Chekhov ;_;7
You think that's bad?
Ron did fuckall.
Oh yeah and of course thanks Justin Lin for helping save Star Trek.

Jokey Uncle is what I've heard him called.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Could fit in the DC thread, but I’ll put it here:


>You may disagree with me; I’m sure many of you probably do, violently. But if you had a different reaction than I did, that doesn’t mean I’m wrong. And my dislike isn’t proof that you’re wrong either. Responses to art aren’t something we win. There isn’t an objective truth out there to be discerned.
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Hollywood seems determined in eating itself alive by releasing these tentpole films one after another every week.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

That was the whole argument about “the blockbuster bubble” mentioned in >>46807 — with so many “blockbusters” and tentpoles crowding around each other’s release dates admist the ongoing decline in theater attendance, all those films will soon eat into each other’s box office takes in a way that will ultimately break Hollywood’s reliance on tentpoles (if not Hollywood itself).
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Various reports say Jason Momoa, best known as the guy WB thinks will make Aquaman less of a joke, is now attached to the long-cursed remake of The Crow. (I say “long-cursed” because the pre-production of said remake has lasted for years and had numerous directors, writers, and lead actors attached to it for varying amounts of time.)

A tweet from MovieBob got me to thinkin’, though: Why must the film be remade with a guy in the lead role? Why not give us a hot goth chick kicking ass in the name of personal vengeance? No remake of The Crow will ever recapture the “magic” of the original film—the aesthetic is too ’90s and the death of Brandon Lee only adds to the film’s somber tone—so trying something “new” with the franchise and showing us how a woman handles being “The Crow” might be worth more of a glance than a straight-up remake.

And hey, if nothing else, we’d get a new hot goth chick to fawn over.

I could see it. Could be a really neat idea. Didn't the short lived TV series do something similar.
I'm still wondering what the Hollywood obsession with remakes is and calling things Remakes when its clearly stated not to be.

Rocketeer Sequel they keep calling a remake even though its stated to not be one. That female lead Ocean's Eleven spinoff/sequel Ocean's Eight (Which is going to end up with its own set of problems being numbered that way and so many will be thinking it's a prequel or something.) But that one also keeps getting labeled a Reboot/Remake.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

It comes easier than creating some new term to describe a film that doesn’t quite deserve the reboot or remake label. I wouldn’t get angry about it.
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That's not as crazy an idea as all that. I have a sequel comic to The Crow in my collection called The Crow: Flesh and Blood, featuring a female Crow called Iris Shaw. It's got a more "American Gothic" feel to it in line with Preacher or True Detective, being set out west in the wilderness.

I've also just now learnt of a BD spinoff series called The French Crow, which had multiple female Crows throughout its run. A spinoff movie set in Paris would definitely have an interesting vibe, could take advantage of the juicy tax incentives they use to pump out all those Liam Neeson movies.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>It's got a more "American Gothic" feel to it in line with Preacher or True Detective, being set out west in the wilderness.

Shit, I’d be up for a Crow film like that.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Her name is Alice…and this is how her story ends.

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Alien: Covenant is the sequel to the 2012 film Prometheus coming out next month.
Hope you guys can hold down more shitting on alien franchise. Oh boy I am.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Pete’s Dragon is one of Disney’s best live-action films. It’s a little cliché and predictable, sure, but for films like this, the execution of tropes matters more than the tropes themselves. My only real problem with it: Karl Urban’s character gets no real characterization or motives for what he does, making him a rather flat villain. In any case, I’d recommend seeing it if you’re sick of all the cynicism and “feel-bad” cinema coming out as of late.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>the 2012 film Prometheus coming out next month

…wait a minute…
I thought Covenant was coming out next year not next month.
Glad to hear it wasn't a total wash. But I kinda wanted to see some of the more crazy bits updated. Crazy murderous hillbillies, potion selling conmen. But overall glad to hear not as bad as I thought it could have been given remakes of late.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

The new film came off as more of a re-imagining than a remake, since it cut out the various sidestories (and musical numbers) from the original and kept only the barebones story intact. That approach sidelined the three major adult characters in terms of characterization, but it also narrowed the film’s focus into a singular narrative throughline—Pete’s journey back into society—and heightened the emotional impact of Pete’s relationship with Elliot.

The film also accomplished something special: Rather than hitting on nostalgic “greatest hit” homage shots and relying on “needledrops” (songs not written for a film but intended to invoke memories of a specific time), Pete’s Dragon used intentional anachronism to invoke nostalgia for a certain period of life—as Birth.Movies.Death’s Devin Faraci puts it, “a time when you were open to awe, when your imagination was boundless and when the world was maybe just a little more frightening than you were willing to admit”. When Pete gets to the town outside of the forest, it feels like a place out of step with modern America; no cellphones, computers, or other “screens” show up in the film. (A record player even shows up at one point!) But that intentional anachronism both avoids dating the film and helps with the “nostalgia for one’s youth” feeling.

Pete’s Dragon never once felt like some cheap attempt to cash in on the kind of nostalgia that drove, say, Jurassic World or Ghostbusters. It didn’t lean anywhere near any form of cynicism, but it avoided going overboard with the optimism and sincerity of its emotion. Everything about it just felt…right. And I loved that the film made me feel so damned happy when I walked out of the theater.
Oops, got way too ahead of myself, sorry.


I forgot my commas, sorry.
Don't pretend anymore, you are clearly a time traveller.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Naw, that can’t be the case. He was referring to three different points in time: past (2012), present, and future (“tomorrow”/next year).



Yea doesn't sound like Sasuage Party is the crowning success they want it to be on the industry side of things. Only comes out with a low budget due to Canada funding and employers abuse of staff.
One studio.

ONE FUCKIN studio that doesn't shit on its animators in one way or another.

Laika, if you come out with some problematic bullshit I swear I'm fuckin giving up this line of work.
You could always try and work for Kyoto Animation over in Japan. I hear they treat their animators better than anybody else over there. Not to mention they also pay their tweeners like humans, instead of that per page bullshit that tweeners normally get in the anime industry.

Well whomever made Rick and Morty an LLC treated theirs like garbage. They had to fight to make it a union shop and get decent health coverage.

Whole point its a fight that has to be made. Get the guilds some real power and allow them now to treat them slightly better than Japan treats Anime production houses.

Make it public enough so they can't just hide being their political friends and ask them to make the problem go away.

Or maybe just find a method to create on the internet or look into Dreamworks as long as they are under Netflix. They seem to be okay.
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I grew up liking Kiss' Music from "The Elder", not knowing it was considered one of their worst albums.

I still like it, call the police.
So Larry Wilmore's show that replaced Colbert got canceled. Heard it wasn't very good anyway.
I watched 2001 for the first time this weekend. Fuck me, that movie is fucking TERRIBLE!
I can understand why it was so significant back then what with the space race and the psychedelic movement, but I can honestly say that anyone praising this movie to this day is full of fucking shit.
Or understands how and why films are made.
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Interesting, tell us more!
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>Fuck me, that movie is fucking TERRIBLE!

Okay, so…why do you think it’s terrible? If you’re going to share an opinion like that, you can at least give us a little justification for it.
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So the new Pennywise. Tries to look more menacing than the original and just comes off as a bit silly looking.

Course can't really top Tim Curry in the unsettling department.
>Okay, so…why do you think it’s terrible? If you’re going to share an opinion like that, you can at least give us a little justification for it.

Not that poster, but I'll chime in since I pretty much agree. The cinematography is obviously amazing, and every frame's a painting just like people always say about Kubrick. Music's great too. But actually *watching* the movie is unbearably dull. Nothing happens for pretty much the entire movie.

As art, it's great, but as entertainment it's terrible.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Thing is, I happen to agree with you. (I tried to watch it on two separate occasions, but I never made it more than a half-hour in.) I just wanted to see the other poster at least justify their opinion, though I imagine they’ll do a quick “THIS”-type post. Not that I’d begrudge them such a post; if someone can articulate an opinion I hold and do it better than I could, I’d go “THIS” at it, too.
He'd be better if he wasn't so goddamn gothloli.
>Nothing happens for pretty much the entire movie.

But a lot happens in the movie. While there is plenty of silence and still moments, it's not like the 2 hours and half entirely consist of watching Bowman drinking space juice.
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>Dreamworks [...] They seem to be okay.
Hence the caveat as long as they have to answer to Netflix.
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
Just this year Disney, Dreamworks, and Sony got that class-action antitrust lawsuit (the one about the "gentlemen's agreement" to fix wages and not to hire each other's employees) thrown out purely based on statue of limitations.

In 2010, the DOJ discovered evidence of conspiratorially meetings going to at least 2007. The judge decided the four-year statue of limitations thus ran out in 2011, and the case could only go through if there was evidence that it had continued even more recently.
Original complainer here. The things that happen could be told in half an hour, instead of making people sit through a 2 hour snore fest. Because the way this movie tries to build tension is through establishing shots, which is fine in principle, but after the second or third time we see an object move slowly through space for ten minutes they become utterly redundant and a waste of time. Like, I get it, dude. Things take time in space. And don't even get me started on the fucking ending. It's like the most pubescent pothead fucking "deep" garbage imaginable. "Like, there's this dude. In a totally white room. And he sees himself age. And then he becomes a fetus again. Circle of life, duuuude!" The entire movie is just Kubrick masturbating. It's the In A Gadda Da Vida of movies. Notable for the spectacle, but a fucking chore to sit through.
Did they start that back up after the hack showed that it was continuing?
Can't criticise a piece of art by separating it from its context, bruh. I get you don't like it as a thing to pop into the dvd player and expect to be entertained, but I wouldn't call it an objectively crap piece of film because of it.
To quote my first post: >I can understand why it was so significant back then what with the space race and the psychedelic movement
What I'm trying to say is that the movie doesn't hold up without the context and isn't really worthy of much praise from anyone who didn't watch it back when it would've been relevant.
Fucking good.
Larry Willmore was a nasaly dork and the coverage was so slanted as to be unwatchable by moderates.

His parting word of it being an unblackening of comedy central likely won't help things.
>I can understand why it was so significant back then what with the space race and the psychedelic movement
Not even really why it was important, but you don't even need to go as far as to have lived in that time to really get its cultural impact. That takes way too much effort nowadays.

Just doing some simple reading up on how it was percieved at the time is enough. If you don't do even that, don't even go near Dr. Strangelove cus that one's gonna sail right over you, man.
I love Dr. Strangelove. It had meaning and a message. 2001 was just masturbatory. You can tell during every single shot of the movie that the impetus for making it wasn't "let's make a good movie", but rather "let's show everyone how good I am at making movies".
My problem was the format and the fact that it just wasn't funny or entertaining. Never was a huge fan of him on TDS either.
Hmmm, being "entertained" is a nebulous thing, there are people who find fun in waiting hours freezing in a rural road just to watch a Rally car speeding by for a couple of seconds. I do get entertained by watching 2001, it is indeed a movie I watch from time to time and find myself satisfied. Shit, I think I have rewatched 2001 more than say, Die Hard or Jaws. The film just thoroughly works for me, it's super-comfy, I find meaning in it, and it's often just beatiful to look at.

I have no problem if somebody doesn't agree with that and finds the movie too slow and weird, but this:

>but I can honestly say that anyone praising this movie to this day is full of fucking shit.

I am sorry but this deserves a "fuck you, buddy".
>Can't criticise a piece of art by separating it from its context, bruh.
That's the modernist belief. But the post-modern belief is that not only can you separate a piece of art from its context, but that you have no business considering the context in the first place.
Look, don't get bent out of shape just because your philosophy of art is 100 years out of date.
I'm not the one who gets pissy at "non-objective biased" game reviews.
The Tick pilot is apparently out on Amazon. Word seems that the tone and humor are good. But the over detailed Tick suit is damned distracting.
Dunno watched a clip since I've not booted up Amazon yet because the UI for their app is reheated ass.

But dammit if he doesn't sell The Tick extremely well. Fantastic amount of Tick style lines just in the short clip.

Still wish Arthur just started wearing the suit as a compulsion.
That bit isn't in the show yet but there are plenty of moments that carry the tone.
Maybe that'll come later.

Probably if they are having a meal and Tick just starts into a speech.

Also those saying "Darker" stop using words you don't really understand.

Yea sure Arthur has his father crushed by the Fives ship before The Terror comes along and kills and maims them leaving Arthur with psychological trauma.

But really it doesn't seem any darker than the comic or animated iteration. Never saw the last live action sitcom.
It's not the Tick as we know it, but I think that's fine. Tick's a parody, and supers have changed since he was last in the game. So instead of just more Tick, they've decided to "ground" the series to take on the MCU style dramas of today like Daredevil.

Also I just generally like Serafinowicz
Alpharius on the move
Just watched Kubo and the Two Strings. Deffinetly LIAKAs best work since Coraline, and might be better, but I will have to watch it a couple more times before I can say that.

5/5 will buy the special edition BD and watch it over and over.
Free Trailer time

Oh boy. are you guys ready for the new Blair Witch movie next month? No, I am not.
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Here's a movie about some crap guys in face paint called clowns. It's also called Clown Town.
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My god, I should have known. Can we throw Jason into this mix somehow, please.
It's already out but here is the trailer anyway.
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a fun one
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Rings US is coming out but fuck that, did you see the one above?!
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GUARDIANS Russian Superhero Movie because bear man.
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A Monster Calls is (I believe) what Godzilla's Revenge was, but with more Sigourney Weaver and Groot.
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I do realize that this is a death that probably won't register for lot of people here, but yesterday a HUGE icon in the latin american musical scene died, Juan Gabriel, at 66. It's not hyperbole to say that for latin people everywhere, this is on the same level as Prince or Bowie dying. His music wasn't my thing, but right now just hearing his songs bring back a lot of childhood memories.

Man, 2016 is hitting everywhere.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

In a similar vein, pro wrestling’s Harry “Mr. Fuji” Fujiwara, who started out as an in-ring performer but later became one of the industry’s most infamous managers, died yesterday. Unlike a lot—and I mean a lot—of pro wrestling personalities, Fuji lived a damn long life, passing at the age of 82.
R.I.P. Gene Wilder.

2016 truly is the worst year.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Fuck 2016 so fucking hard.
How many big names died so far?
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Other notable deaths from this year so far: David Bowie, Glenn Frey, Abe Vigoda (for real!), Umberto Eco, Nancy Reagan, Rob Ford, Garry Shandling, Patty Duke, Doris Roberts, Joanie “Chyna” Laurer, Prince, Alan Young, Muhammad Ali, Kimbo Slice, Gordie Howe, Anton Yelchin, Elie Wiesel, Garry Marshall, David Huddleston, and Kenny Baker.
Add yeserday's Juan Gabriel to that and I'd say we've got a pretty shit year so far.
I read Wilder died of complications of Alhzeimer's disease

Was it known publicly that he had it?
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

According to a statement from his nephew, Wilder kept the state of his health private so people would remember him for the work he did in his prime.

I think I heard it mentioned in passing about some other film.

Kinda like Tim Curry suffering a major stroke. Its something that is otherwise kept quiet
Speaking of which he's coming up on the chopping block. Unless turning 70 in April saved him from joining the dreaded dead at 69 club.
rasputin_zero !!e9Z+3lbULwW
I used to despair at the toll 2016 was inflicting on the celebrity world, but considering the shitshow this year has become internationally, I'm starting to think they decided to get out while the going was still good.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

2016: Are we doing this shit or what
And still I see a few that may pass before years end. Shits gonna get rough.
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Neat, maybe the next gen of Hollywood won't be total washouts.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

WWE did something similar last year for its annual videogame release. Only they got the actual Terminator back for it: //youtube.com/watch?v=FAbLs7qX1Ukyoutube thumb

(God, I love 2K’s WWE ads. Also, Dean Ambrose is awesome.)
Those have become very good wrestling simulators. Now if they could just make the matches on TV as entertaining as the ones you can play in the game.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Left you a comment on /cog/ about this. Check the General with the DOOM header image.
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Which was better, /tv/?


My vote goes to Shin, personally due to it being a genuinely unnerving creature that didn't wimp out on the natural disaster/nuclear bomb allegory and how it had much more awe-inspiring atomic breath.
Japan has the monster atomic. US has the monster eldritch
wait did Shin come out
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Yup, not here yet though.

Actually the two films you are talking about have it swapped.

Shin is an Eldritch monster of the most fleshy nightmare SPOILERSHe is constantly evolving, eating people and transforming, his tail is a malformed second head that can fire atomic breath and at the end he begins to birth Godzilla like humanoid xenomorphs. His face even splits on the bottom jaw to accommodate his atomic breathe.

Zilla is a nuclear Avenger of Ancient times bound to restoring the natural order.
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>basically, Lovecraft for Kids

Now this is something that does need a reboot badly.
Are YOU ready for movie remake hell? Too bad! Here are your over 110 (possible) remakes up to 2020.





Dwayne Johnson is getting a lot of work it seems.

Some ones that stick out to me are :
An American Werewolf in London
Logan's Run
Flight of the Navigator
And so much more!

Honestly I don't think any of them will be good. Not a single fucikng one.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
All we can do about Reboot/Remake Hell is refuse to talk about or go see those films.
I could see a Jumanji remake being good if done by the right people. I know it's a movie that triggers nostalgia for a lot of people, but truth to be told it's kinda of a mess, and I am not even talking about the terrible CGI.

Of course, the "if done by the right people" is a pretty big "if" in itself.
Mister Twister
Depends on what is getting rebooted. Sometimes it is done right.
So which reboots are generally considered good/similar or better than the original?
Mister Twister
Depends on the person you're asking.

However, as a rule of thumb (sort of), films that were considered great at the time of release, and even decades later, usually get worse reboots.
Stone Tablet !zWb42fBPMM

Scarface and the original Magnificent Seven were both good remakes.
Fury Road, the Charlton Heston Ben-Hur, and True Grit are good ones off the top of my head.
Fury Road is not a reboot.
It kinda is.
The Sneaky Tiki
And isn't, as all Mad Max movies are, it was never series to particularly care about "canon."
So... when every movie is a reboot, none of them are?
What qualifies for it?

+ Done Years Later?
+ Attempt to re start the franchise?
+ New actor for the protag?

I mean, hey its easy to be a contrarian here.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

A reboot generally tries to restart the entire canon of a franchise—think Ghostbusters (2016), RoboCop, or both The Amazing Spider-Man and Spider-Man: Homecoming. (The first two are what you can call “rebakes”—both a reboot and a remake.) Fury Road adds to the Mad Max canon, so while it brought back the franchise, it didn’t really reboot things.

If Marvel made a new Blade film that picked up where Blade: Trinity left off, it would be a sequel. If Marvel made a new Blade film that restarted Blade’s film canon—a film that acted as if the original Blade films didn’t exist at all—that would be a reboot.
The Sneaky Tiki
Easy for mad max, no film can't have happened for another Mad Max movie to exist.
rasputin_zero !!e9Z+3lbULwW
It's been said before by smarter people than I that the only worthwhile remakes are those of films that had strong concepts let down by lacklustre execution. Ben Hur and True Grit are two, but Ocean's Eleven, Cape Feare and D.O.A. are also good examples.

So going by that criteria, what movie would make a good candidate for a remake these days? It's kind of hard to pinpoint one without an encyclopaedic knowledge of old, shitty movies. For my money, it's been a good long while since the last attempted adaptations of '30s pulp, like The Shadow, Dick Tracey, The Rocketeer etc.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>what movie would make a good candidate for a remake these days?

Here’s the problem with this line of thinking: It implies that we need a remake of anything. Such an implication suggests we need remakes so “modern audiences” can appreciate the story told by the original. But why can’t we settle for what we have? The original Magnificent Seven (itself a remake of The Seven Samurai) withstands the test of time thanks to a strong script and solid acting from an all-star cast. The only reason for a studio to remake The Magnificent Seven is because they think banking on a form of nostalgia and name recognition will rake in the dosh. (“Hey, remember that old western about the seven guys who stood up to an army of bad guys? Now it’s being done with modern actors and modern technology! Surely it will be as good as the original, if not better!”) But even if the remake is good—which is no guarantee—there was simply no reason to do it other than some studio bigwig’s implicit hatred for older films and how they look/feel.
Speaking of reboots, damn, I really want to see how the story ends in Planet of the Apes. Now that's a reboot series I had absolutely no hope of being good (especially since they already tried and failed once to reboot it), and somehow managed to deliver great quality.
I don't believe it's about having a "good candidate", it's about a remake/reboot meeting or exceeding the original film. That SHOULD be easy to do with all the experience the industry has after all this time.

Takethis youtube Boots to Reboots guy. I don't like his skits, but he makes good points on remakes.

A Bad remake:
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A Good Remake:
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Now for some casting calls because I've gone Hollywood in this thread:

I'll post this bioware thing in /cog/ too.




I was looking for the remake casting calls, but I didn't find anythe too interesting.
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Speaking of reboots, might as well post this.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

>it's about a remake/reboot meeting or exceeding the original film. That SHOULD be easy to do with all the experience the industry has after all this time.

And yet evidence shows just how hard it truly is. Lots of remakes/reboots work under the “tangible details” theory: Rather than taking a deep understanding of what did and didn’t work about a film into the new version, creators of a remake/reboot often reach for the tangible details of the original movie and use them to trigger nostalgia (often as a disguise for piss-poor storytelling).
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Bond “reboots” shouldn’t really count.
Though would it be the lackluster 1954 film version or that 1967 version that is just a meh spoof.

Really they'd not really had a Casino Royale to be honest and so far all the films under Daniel Craig setup things for the "origins/prequel" to the world of Bond rather than more Bond movies.

And apparently they are so scared they cannot get another good Bond they want to give Daniel Craig the entire film budget.
Hey, I can't blame them. Bond movies are money makers. Skyfall and Spectre made Civil War and BvS level dough.

Yea but when a guy has stated multiple times that he doesn't want to do it. Don't want to force a guy to the point it hurts his performance.
Oh, for sure. No reason to keep going with a guy who doesn't want the role when you have the likes of Tom Hardy or Idris Elba there.
Elba would be great. But that's got bizarre resistance about "no black scots" or something in the studio. Then we've got that faction that wants a woman Bond which leads to its own complaints and then rides us back around to "rest of the list is too unsure, lets just get Craig back for a bit longer."

Bring back Craig and we'll likely get two more rounds of Dead Letter tapes from Dame Dench about more people she screwed over and are prowling around for vengeance.

Elba has a good presence and that cool lethal demeanor that I recall most on Sir Connery.

He also seems to be a popular choice in Britain.
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>buy compressed music from an independent artist for years
>okay, fine, not like I have a choice here
>new song available exclusively on his website
>sure, why not, more compressed music for my dollar
>it's lossless
So, Brangelina is no more.
Yea, heard the dope smoking and whoring about was what did it.
I was just talking with my buddy last week about how long they've been together that they're due to break up any moment. Lo and behold.

Yea this is going to be fun. Whats the last film Pitt was in anyway?
You guys remember we were discussing remakes/reboots?

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Mister Twister
>Wizard of OZ musical was a remake
And now I know.
And those all follow the rule of "There is something that can be done better or added to another iteration of that film."

More modern ones seem to falter on that as they seem to remove certain plot points and not really add anything new that really fills those spots.
thatother1dude !!/PKS88+dMMc
>More modern ones
That's a conveniently vague category.
Lets say post 2000s to really put a bead on it then. Ones coming out based more on Studios "Hey this was popular back in the day, lets remake it." Rather than the director and/or writer saying "I"d like to work on this as I think it has promise as a remake."
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

Yeah, most modern remakes (going with the “2000s onward” definition of that phrase) concentrate more on the iconography and what went right rather than focusing on what went wrong the first time, how to fix it, and how to best balance both the old and new takes (especially given modern aesthetics and FX abilities).

I’ve said it before, but Manos would be a film that I’d love to see an actual remake of. And that is not a joke—within that wretched slab of film lies a story idea that could be crafted into something so much better than Hal P. Warren could’ve ever dreamed. Practical effects and one- or two-set location shooting to keep costs down, a reworked script that would (amongst other “fixes”) give us more conflict between the married couple at the heart of the story so we'll care about their eventual fates, and a complete dedication to treating it like an actual horror film instead of a satirical pot-shot at the original…seriously, a Manos remake could actually work under the right conditions.

Could Manos work as say a "Found Footage" Film. I mean the setup is good for Some Dude in the modern era carrying around a camera on his family vacation and getting trapped in that bizarre place. Or better to be a tight cinematic piece.

Maybe have it in a straight up abandoned Theme Park which Manos has made his "Kingdom", plenty of those around.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

I envision it more as a tight cinematic thriller on a low (for Hollywood) budget, but a found footage-style film could also work.

When is the last film that hybridized that the film travels cinematic but the story is carried along with found footage.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM

…uh…care to try that sentence again? Couldn’t quite parse what you’re asking there.
I thinking like how it works in some games. The plot is revealed mainly through recorded media that the character finds while experiencing the world.
rasputin_zero !!e9Z+3lbULwW
Games do that to avoid disrupting gameplay with intrusive cutscenes - you can ignore the audiologs and plough through shooting bad guys, or you can hang back and listen to the additional media so you get narrative context as to why you're shooting bad guys.

Films don't have "gameplay" for the recorded media to interrupt - films are recorded media, 100% through-and-through. If you're asking about the last movie to reveal some important plot point in a flashback delivered in-movie via a recording, I'm pretty sure there's a half-dozen films in the multiplex right now that do exactly that, but that's hardly "hybrid storytelling," it's a well-worn trope that goes back to Citizen Kane.
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G.I. Samurai is an amazing piece of cinema and y'all should watch it.
Random quest, but is the Independence Day sequel as dogshit as it first looks?

I'm hardly claiming the original as some sort of high quality feat of creative writing, but this just seems like an entirely pointless sequel released after all those years where they try to build shallow hype by raising power levels everywhere and is actually WORSE writing-wise than the original, if that can be believed.
Guess I should also outright mention the new visuals/designs and alot of the actors performance I saw in the scenes so witnessed seemed worse too somehow
It's watchable, but not as fun as the original. The ending opens potential for crazier stuff, though.

I must add, I have no idea how the RLM guys found it better. I usually agree with their reviews, but not in this case.
RLM are a bunch of guys with opinions. They are no prophets, speaking the absolute truth.
They also come from a film school background so they have tastes that differ from those without that background.
Same as everyone exiting music school becoming great musicians.
All the film background and difference in tastes can't account for giving Independence Day: Resurgence a positive review. That's going into Armond White territory right there.

OTOH it wasn't exactly an unanymous opinion, Mike liked it but Jay found it dumb (although he was MUCH less vocal about his dislike than he was in the ID4 review)
Mine tends to have a strange fondness for dumb shlock so it's not really that surprising. That's not an insult either, is fine to like that stuff and doesn't invalidate his other views.
I did find it surprising because Mike hated the first ID4 precisely because it was dumb shlock, and Resurgence is even dumber and shlockier and somehow he loved it. I am not saying he sucks for it or anything like that, but it was supremely odd to hear him giving praise to the movie.
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I just watched The OA.
I kind of really enjoy that its climax is really emotional and powerful with context, and extremely silly without.

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