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LAST TIME ON SYM! >>397014
Friendly reminder to buckle-up while riding in a moving vehicle. It might save your life.
I just turned off a coffee pot in my house that could have been on for hours. I'm very glad it didn't explode, shatter and/or burn.
All the Kickstarter hate is starting to annoy me. Someone is getting money for doing a thing and people get mad. Why? Do they think everything should be free? Or are they jealous of someone getting paid at all?
>>398317
people are just being contrarian and shitting on things because they can
it' s 4chan. just ignore shitposting.
>>398320
Whats the difference?
>>398317
It's just like any other artist getting paid. You know the whole "b-but they're my personal slaves, so it should all be free!" thing you hate?
The worst thing the internet has done to our sociey is make everyone think anyone gives a fuck about their opinion.
>>398323
Pretty much, self-entitlement. Believing the world owes you everything for free.
My theory is that it's more than that--I think a lot of people on 4chan at one point dreamed of working in some sort of creative field, like making comics or cartoons or some shit like that. They encountered a little resistance at some point like the realization that they would actually have to work on it or network or sell shit, and developed a complex about it to convince themselves that, really, the reason they couldn't do the job they wanted was because the gatekeepers wouldn't give them a chance.
I think people see Kickstarter success and see that you no longer have an excuse for not putting your creative work out there. If you don't try, it's because you're too apathetic, too lazy, or too scared to. It's no longer somebody else's fault that you fail. And that's terrifying for nerds because nerds have this big complex built up about how the reason the world doesn't give them unlimited free blowjobs is because no one would give them a chance.
>>398328
You summarized it neatly in two neat paragraphs.
Anyway, finally stopped making excuses to myself, and started catching up on stuff to watch. Northern Exposure was on the top of the list. I only watched 2 minutes, and I am already sold. Rarely have I seen dialogue and acting so good right off the bat.
>>398328
Yep! That's pretty much it. Good job on summing that up.
Shit takes work. Can't just dream up robo-armed fetish-mash-up anime girls one time and say you're officially on your way to being an industry big timer.
//youtube.com/watch?v=ZWW5OuxlKec
Very interesting. I wonder how all, if not most, of the plants mentioned in this video lived long enough for humans to show up to cultivate them?
I loved these berries all my live, but now I finally know the English name for them: sea-buckthorns.
Cleaning things with hands, like tears, fresh stains, and dirt, is very easy and very comfortable. But that leaves your hands covered with the very things you wanted to get rid of, which means you have to wash them.
Why is this world so complicated?
>>398340
That's why I have a small bottle of hand sanitizer in my car.
Sorry to put this here but I need a place.
Hate everything about myself and yet I don't understand why people don't like me.
I fucking hate being around people but I hate being alone.
I hate being a failure.
I've started punching myself again. If I'm alone and I'm angry I'll hit myself in the face or stomach until I don't feel as mad. I might get more destructive soon.
I'm never going to ask for help.
So much of my angst comes from the fact that I've never had any sort of success with women, it's almost hilarious how cookie-cutter pathetic I am. I'm not surprised at all that I ended up being that brand of loser.
>>398344
Please consider getting legit therapy.
>>398344
I will choose to not believe you. Even if you are legit, you deserve to be laughed at. I have some real self-worth issues, but at least I have a SLIVER of self-respect.
What do you do when you're OK after something bad happened but the people around you who matter to you aren't, and part of it is because there are some very shitty people who are also close who pretend to care and after they unsuccessfully try to make you feel bad, they then use the situation to turn people who are less in-the-know, but who are closer to the shitty people than they are to you, against the good people as part of some fucked up personal grudge?
>>398350
If you're not too anxious to do it, the proper thing to do is to tell people that while you appreciate their concern, they need to either respect your boundaries or they need to leave you alone. Even with friends and loved ones, you have the right to set and enforce boundaries.
>>398351
It's not quite that simple. One side of my family is trying to sabotage the other and cut them off from us because they're a bunch of jealous cunts upset we're closer to the relatives who actually gave a shit about me and my siblings. Since it's like ten time as many old-fashioned and well, "patriarchal" foreign folks with deep ties to the local ethnic community and everyone six degrees of it vs a much smaller group of modernized people, we silly little 20+ year old "children" are not allowed to have much say even though it's our opinions that matter the most.
>>398353
I understand why that would be difficult on you. Family stuff is tough, and there's always a feeling of obligation to stick together even when you're being wronged.
That being said, even if it's a whole branch of the family or even the community and even if they are authority figures over you, you get to choose who is part of your life and who isn't. If they don't respect your boundaries or your decisions, it doesn't matter what their relationship to you is, or how much authority they have with you, or even whether it would cause a "breach in the family." You do not have to allow them to be part of your life unless you choose to, and no rational person in the world would ever judge you harshly for cutting someone out of your life who doesn't respect your boundaries--even if the people you're cutting out of your life are family.
And I know it's always going to be more complicated than that, and maybe you don't want to go that far yet--that's fine, you don't have to. But maybe it'll give you some inner comfort/satisfaction just to know that you could. That even if you don't cut them off, it is by your choice that you don't and not because they have any power over you. It might cause you some problems and some stress, but you are the ultimate arbiter of your life, and their continued involvement in your life is only with your permission. You are the one with the power here. You are the gatekeeper for your own life.
The people who develop brain programming will be so fucking rich and powerful. The idea has so much room for abuse but so much potential for good.
Imagine how many disorders could be corrected and how many world problems would go away (and begin) if we could have people manually reprogram each other's brains.
Oh yeah and I get to see a psychologist tomorrow to check my brain for brain problems.
>>398370
Says Mr Psychology 101 over here.
But seriously, what about that makes me a fool?
>>398372
The belief that the mind can be taken apart and rearranged like Lego.
I know it may seem that Super Science can do it, but nothing actually can.
>>398376
Hey, you never know. I thought you were calling that anon a fool that the developers of such a technology would be rich. It'd probably be the implementers to profit from such a breakthrough. A brain technology I'd like to see would be brain taping or mind emulation.
After a long struggle, dad's at peace.
>>398376
The same can be said of computer code too, though, in that smashing two programs together won't make some kind of hybrid like that episode of Reboot. Unless they're specifically made to do that, like Sonic & Knuckles.
>>398380
I'm sorry about your loss. Something similar happened to me very recently too.
>>398376
Depends on what your view of the human brain is.
I have the belief that a brain is just a natural, insanely complex computer. A brain is, when you get to a certain level, just a shitton of neurons, synapses, neurotransmitters and some other basic parts. If people had the knowledge, determination, technology and money then they could make millions of small adjustments to these parts, therefore altering the brain's function.
I know in practice it would be very complex and probably impractical due to time and cost, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm not talking "plug in a cord and zap him in the face", I'm talking "let's edit this artwork pixel by pixel".
>>398379
>I thought you were calling that anon a fool that the developers of such a technology would be rich. It'd probably be the implementers to profit from such a breakthrough.
Good point.
In other news, people who invent cures to diseases and charge insane costs. I get why it happens, but it sucks ass.
>>398360
>The people who develop brain programming
That's called "culture." It was probably first invented a million years ago. It was definitely around since the beginning of recorded history.
>>398392
I mean intentional, precise reprogramming through physical alterations. I get the whole brain elasticity/society-culture thing. This interaction between us involves brain programming, but not in the way I meant.
I haven't gotten any matches on Tinder.
This is depressing. Like no one even finds me interesting enough to at least try to talk to me.
Why does it irritate me whenever someone uses an exclamation point on the internet?
>>398406
BAM! Now we wait till it's implemented as a banner or not.
Looks like my spleen is not alright. That's pretty shitty.
The next big invention will be a computer monitor that reflects natural light instead of emanating it. I love my anti-glare monitor, but it is not as pleasant to look at as a page of a book.
>>398406
Same here. In my case I knew since the beginning of this year, but really I had a feeling it would've come down to this since last year. It's weird. All year long I was dreading the worst, but now that it's actually happened and the funeral was done and finished, I've suddenly stopped feeling so sad. I'm not sure if I should feel disturbed or relieved at my own lack of depression, but at least I'm in a better position to help everyone else.
The very fact "Darwinism" is a word that exists is hilarious. Charles Darwin never wanted his findings turned into some kind of religion.
>>398416
I'm still pretty sure economy as survival-of-the-fittest scenario makes more sense if, rather than taking every career as the same ecological niche, employer/employee relations are seen as predator/prey. Predators/employers establish territory at water sources/workplaces so prey/employees need to face them daily to survive.
In other thoughts: I get that people usually see hiking trails as a destination in and of itself, but I'd like it if there were a coherent system of maps for trails and their crossings, much like road maps, so if one was interested they could look to see if a series of trails connects two points. There's lists and maps of trails, but the ones I see are all on finding nearby scenic areas, not actual trail-based navigation.
Everyone who considers him/herself a "music lover" needs to hear "To The End of The World" by Pat Metheny Group, at least once.
>>398416
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ism
English is evolving language, broserf. ism doesn't strictly have to deal with religion.
By the way, this post was cut down form a really long rant that I decided to cut all of and just post this opinion piece instead ==> http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/is-it-time-for-atheists-to-hunt-bigger-game.html
After breaking 4 glasses in 2 weeks, I bought a stein to drink water out of. Best purchase I did in years.
>>398314
Facebook has made me realize the only reason you think you like people is because you know nothing about them. You just project what you think on them.
Fuck you, Martelotto.
I'm looking for that old video of the Japanese girl and the dog growing up together till the dog dies and it switches perspective of their life from the dogs point of view. Would anyone know what that's titled?
I don't have many friends, but I think it's better to have fewer friends than to be an attention whore, either online or IRL.
Coincidentallly I'm in one of those depression holes again, where I really wish I had an irl friend.
>>398446
I know that feel bro/sis. I don't need need friends outside of my family, but it would be nice to have them. Or a boyfriend to give me companionship and share myself with.
>feeling pretty down
>gets worse quickly
>hate everything I've done in life
>contemplate suicide
>
>take a poop
>
>♫ EVERYTHING IS AWESOME ♫ WHEN YOU'RE LIVING OUT A DREAM ♫
I hate my body.
>>398457
Sounds like me every other two weeks before my period.
For a while I thought that one day there won't be any swear words left, since people like to overuse and misuse words, leading to words losing their meaning overtime.
But now I realized that won't ever happen, since we can only overuse a couple of words at any given time. We could never destroy the entire Swear Vocabulary, since that would require too much memory usage, and general public tends to be low on RAM.
>>398461
Also, the whole 'English is an evolving language thing'
The good thing about having friends from other nationalities is learning how to swear in their language.
>>398462
>'English is an evolving language thing'
Language itself is fluid, not just English.
>>398463
While true, my understanding is that English is more fluid than other languages. German, Spanish, Chinese, these are fluid like honey. English is more like fresh oil. Sentence structure is far less formalized in English, and the language itself picks up words readily from other languages. Perhaps American English moreso than British English, because of the larger variety of cultures in America.
>>398463
I agree, though it's worth noting that some languages have very strong discouraging factor on their evolution. French for example has an entire government body dedicated to deciding what is and is not proper French, that goes out of its way to eliminate colloquialisms taken from loan words--especially colloquialisms taken from English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription
>>398467
I absolutely love when people post links from Wikipedia to prove their points.
>>398469
http://grammar.about.com/od/basicsentencegrammar/f/descpresgrammar.htm
http://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/ling001/prescription.html
http://www.pbs.org/speak/speech/correct/prescriptivism/
http://www.polysyllabic.com/?q=navigating/intro/prescriptive
Better or worse?
>>398469
I also appreciate when people post links from a heavily moderated encyclopedia that is constantly checked for errors. They tend to be pretty reliable.
A good wiki article has extensive sourcing, more than any paper I ever wrote in my undergrad years. Before casually waving away a wikipedia link, check the thing for sources first.
>downloading 'Hotel Transylvania' for unrelated reason
>open the file once it finishes torrenting to check it works
>skip past opening sony credits to about a minute
>see Dracula holding up a baby in a diaper and saying "I vant to kiss your tush!"
thats a little fucked up
>>398477
That's a normal thing, Anon. It's just a father being dumbly cutesy.
>tablet devices for babbies are called "modern technology"
>professional cameras which make your photos look good and sharp are called "old school technology"
The left side of my body has gone from hurting for the last few days to going numb. I doubt this is a good thing.
>>398486
Yeah, I'd start worrying if I were you.
I feel like meditation could really help me. Usually I have no energy and do nothing, or I have moderate energy and can't focus. Any good websites/articles for how to do it? The main problem is getting my mind to a "blank" state, because my brain will never shut up.
>>398486
See a doctor.
>>398492
It has to do with chakras being blocked. Not even kidding. Find someone who knows about that stuff (avoid charlatans).
They clear up/open by themselves after you sorted out your emotional problems and lived a healthy, disciplined life for about a week. Think of what troubles you, and do something about it immediately. Also, make it your daily habit to do aerobics. Think happy thoughts.
>>398493
>Think of what troubles you, and do something about it immediately.
[...]
>massive financial debt
>forever alone
>no social life
>no friends
>no hobbies or interests
That's a pretty tall order.
>>398494
Go to meetup.com and join some clubs and you can make progress on all of those except for the financial debt one. For financial debt, make a budget. You're not going to SOLVE those problems quickly, but you can definitely work on them and get closer to achieving your goals pretty easily.
>>398497
Is meetup.com any good? My brother suggested to me as a way to break out of my lifelong hikkikomori lifestyle but I'm wary of anything that involves total strangers getting together.
>>398500
>total strangers getting together.
This is literally the best way to break out of cocoon-mode. Sink or swim brah, choose wisely.
>sitting in a classroom
>a few tables from me a college girl is talking to her neighbor
God she's dumb... she think she's people, but she ain't.
Welp, reddit is imploding at its admins.
Neutral TL;DR: admins ban some popular hate subreddits and not others. Users see this as against reddits ideals (free speech and shit). Consider an average day on 4chan under moot. Mass hatred against moderation.
(If you want to discuss, this thread is not the place. This is a good thread that doesn't deserve '>reddit' posts)
Um...are we not allowed to post JPEGs any more?
>>398509
>free's peach
lel
fuckboys don't like getting called out on their bs. aint that some shit.
>>398509
I don't really care either way, the ones that were banned mostly make sense but
>people giving a shit about Neogaf
lol
>>398518
>>people giving a shit about Neogaf
>lol
Yeah, I thought that too. Whatever.
>>398519
I have conflicting feelings about this. One one hand, it is correct. On another hand, it's goddamn stick figures; lazy as frick.
>>398529
Exactly. To summarize XKCD, "brilliant but lazy".
First Nimoy and Pratchett, now Christopher Lee.
;_;
>wanna listen to Paul's Boutique
>left the vinyl at my parents'
>don't wanna buy the digital version of an album I already own
If you love something, you should be ready to fight for it.
If you are not willing to fight, then you love nothing.
God I hate my dad. And the worst thing is it's really petty and first-world babby problems of me, because honestly plenty would kill to have a father like him. He's not physically or sexually abusive or anything. He has a stable middle class job, pays the bills and puts food on the table, doesn't indulge in any expensive vices, and I'm fairly certain he isn't actually cheating or keeping a mistress (yet).
But he's constantly, constantly talking shit about my mom behind closed doors. Like he's always finding reasons to slag off on her, like calling her fat or a useless cripple, uncouth when it's the total opposite, mocking her side of the family just because they came from a poorer background, accusing her of being disrespectful because she saved him from getting swindled multiple times, a wasteful spendthrift when she's by far the more financially responsible one, and goes out of her way to avoid spending his money like some of my aunts and his friends' wives do, or selfish and lazy because she chose to be a stay-home mom and take care of us and maintain the house rather than work full time when money isn't even an issue, or even spreading blatantly false rumors about her, and so on. And he's been doing that for years. On top of that he's always so emotionally distant as a parent that I suspect he never even wanted to have a family, other than "that's just what respectable men are supposed to do" according to society (not white or Christian btw). It's not like he's gay or uninterested in women in general either.
I spilled the beans on some of it to her and naturally she's fucking furious now, but I'm worried that wasn't the wisest choice. Thankfully it hasn't led to any confrontations yet and he doesn't know that I've been spying on him or tattling, but I really don't want them to get a divorce, and I'm sure neither of them do either, considering there's still a huge social stigma for it here. If that happened, chances are me and my brothers would all go with mom. But they're still in school, I don't make enough money to take care of all of us, and my mom's health issues would make it even harder to go back to work at her age.
>>398537
This is a thread where people dump their excessive thoughts so their head don't explode. Don't see the posts as directed at you.
I wonder what lightning bugs think when they get to the Red Light District.
Sometimes I feel like cutting my dick off. Not because of any gender thing.
I just hate getting a boner and it feeling kinda hurt-y.
An artist I like just started doing NSFW stuff. They put it behind a hidden blog and I just feel like asking for the url.
The thing is, they're barely 17. And on the one hand, I would love to see the porn she's done... on the other, I feel actually disturbed at the prospect of directly encouraging a minor to be making pornography for a public of hairy, beer-gutted men like me. I've known her work since she was 15. And for a short while she started doing risque stuff, I forgot that and treated her and her work like an adult. But some recent stuff in my life regarding treating a minor like they have the judgement of someone older have proven thats a bad call on my part.
She's 17. I'm glad and supportive of anyone at that age discovering their own tastes and experimenting with how they view their sexuality. Up to a point I'd say thats something to be encouraged. But man.
Sigh.
Just venting, really.
Fuck how do these people on Youtube make video editing look so easy?
>>398557
>girl in fandom I remember (from wikia chat and /co/) drawing porn at 14
Yep, that feel.
>>398556
Random boners are your dick exercising to keep in shape.
>>398556
Go see a doctor.
>>398557
Venting is what the SPEAK YOUR MIND threads are for. You shouldn't feel any guilt about this, she'll be 18 soon any way, and more practice on art is good. That is, if you can some how feign ignorance on the knowledge of her age and/or doing these requests through a proxy/anonymous/non-connected account.
>>398541
He still sounds like he's being an emotionally abusive asshole, and it's important that you tell your mother so that in case she ever feels guilty she'll know not to blame herself if he tries anything.
>go to a Wetherspoons (chain pub in the UK) with fellow nerds
>a woman from a nearby hen party pops over, apparently she knows some of the people I'm talking to
>mfw she takes my mobile number because she was dared to by other members of the hen party
>mfw I go home to find somebody replied to a non-lewd personal ad I put on CraigsList and doesn't want to show me any photos of herself
>artist is art-whoring hard because art is his main income
I am ok with this, I like the guy. Good for him.
Sometimes I wonder if I should have gone to art school.
>>398571
Art schools help you develop faster, but you can get skills any way you want.
The real skill that you need, is the ability to put yourself out there, to promote and present your stuff. When you became known and integrated yourself in the arght community, you're good.
>>398573
Also, artistic skill. That's Latin for 'practice'.
>>398573
Thats the thing. I'm actually legitimately good at getting jobs. But I'm nowhere near as good as many many other colleagues, especially those working close to me who are far from being as able to live off their artwork as I am.
And I don't have time to focus on practicing or experimenting or trying to learn how to do new stuff... Because I'm too busy doing jobs. I try, though. And I AM improving.
I've heard every rant and tweet and bit of advice in terms of art school and how its not necessary to be a good artist and how you only should go if you feel like you need it.
And I still think.
I should have gone to art school.
>>398575
You could always audit life drawing classes at a local college. But as someone who majored in art at a university (not an art school, though), I can tell you that life drawing classes were pretty much the only useful classes I took vis a vis becoming a better visual artist. Most of the rest of the curriculum was teaching me to work in other mediums that, while fun, I don't really see myself working with again in the future.
>>398576
Also, the only difference between life drawing classes and getting someone to pose nude for you is the regularity and routine that forces you to keep doing it. The teachers don't really give all that much instruction, other than occasionally red lining your work to show you where you're going wrong.
On the topic of artwork
>Colo/Nagrolaz is only 20 years old.
I've become addicted to people giving me feedback and comments on shit I made. Like, I know popular people are happy to see their fans like their stuff, but unless you've been a social outcast most of your life like me, you have *no idea* what it's like to finally be appreciated. Shit this might be the one thing keeping me from killing myself.
I think I am becoming jaded. The whole "Internet is totally crazy!" joke does not get to me anymore.
Out of the blue, I received a settlement check of $1,472.40 today.
DDDDDDDD:DDDDDDDDDDDD
Ok fuck, I had some pain in the back of my mouth and thought it was an ulcer, but when I looked with a flashlight it looked like something sharp was trying to stick through my gum. But that's impossible, I had my molars removed years ago.
http://woobox.com/vaa2yq/f91w3c
Rifftrax guys are having a caption contest if anyone is intrested.
The worst part of being banned from anywhere is not the feeling of being denied something, but the fact that you are almost never told what you did wrong to deserve it.
>>398613
Was it
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
In other news, these new underwear are fucking amazing.
>make informal post on forum (with 'Hey' and 'newbie' and shit)
>get a really formally written PM in response. we are talking paragraphs and shit.
>decide to emulate his professionalism and tone when I reply (I naturally adapt to the style of the person I'm speaking with to make conversation smoother; makes me look like a mocking asshole when someone talks to me in broken English)
>he replies with seven words, no capitalisation or punctuation
>>398613
Where are you banned from? Because the vast majority of websites I've been to explicitly tell you where you fucked up. Even 4chan does this now.
>>398615
I am talking about places OTHER than 4chan, where you are not shown what you posted or said.
Basically, proper policy should be "before you ban, you explain".
>>398626
I wasn't banned from anywhere, just reminiscing over one time I was blocked on DA.
Your fortune: Bad Luck
>arrived during +4.org/b/baw
>check archive's archive (/boards/baw)
>all these namefags I've never heard of before
Huh. This place had FEMALES?? Like, more than two??
In other news, I got a fortune cookie that didnt even try to tell a fortune. Is this bad?
>>398647
Its always really really bizarre when people use 'female' as anything other than an adjective.
Why do all these people have this kind of forced, artificial laugh? I can never tell if they are genuinely amused or trying to protect my feefees.
Like, my friends will call me out when I make shit jokes, and I like that. It's honesty.
Moving away from my initial point, I dislike when people lie about criticism to make people feel better. It's just like art. How can I better myself if you convince me I'm fine as I am now? I don't want to think I'm A+ for years and then realise I'm an underweight, skillless permavirgin without a future. I want to know where I am, and raise myself to the level you pretend I am at.
I know you are trying to be nice, but your compliments won't get me laid.
>>398658
Some people believe you must force a smile. Reasons vary, but they believe a smile has to be forced.
I personally believe those poor fucks lost the belief that a smile can come naturally. I think they are very unhappy inside.
>>398647
>implying everyone here isn't a lady
Good luck proving we're not.
If I could have any superpower in the world, it would be mind control. Fuck invisibility, fuck super speed, fuck flight. If I could manipulate people, into thinking I was some sort of god, nothing else would matter to me.
>>398658
>Why do all these people have this kind of forced, artificial laugh? I can never tell if they are genuinely amused or trying to protect my feefees.
They could just be forcing that enthusiasm because they're used to doing that whenever they feel something even remotely like amusement at an appropriate time. Maybe they got told really lame jokes when they were little, and this established a low baseline of what humor is to them.
>Moving away from my initial point, I dislike when people lie about criticism to make people feel better. It's just like art.
Given that it's always possible to improve, this fact is often taken for granted, with praise given under the presumption that people receiving it understand that they can do better anyway. While occasionally useful, updates of personal status are often tedious, stressful, and far too specific. Most people can be expected to gain a level of self awareness that makes constant reminders unneeded when it comes to personal habits.
So if you want to know how to improve, ask for that specifically so people know to say that rather than a general opinion of how easy you are to put up with. How are they to even know what your priorities are, and thus what standards to set for you unless you tell them? People would need to know a lot about your life to know the direction it's headed as long as you don't show some obvious sign of self-destructiveness.
>>398661
>Its called being polite
Nah. Outside of international politics, corporate management, and poorly reared children it isn't anyway.
>>398664
What if you could have any superpower, but the same power will also be given to your closest living relatives?
My complete and total last chance at happiness has rejected me. I've made my decision. I truly feel like it's time for me to end my life.
>>398666
Mind chronicling it out for us? Plans, notes, object usage?
>>398666
Hmm. We can talk about this. Whatever it is, you can probably recover from it and this is just the depression talking.
>>398668
How the fuck can a girl stay close friends with a guy for years, and stay single, without feeling any sort of attraction for him? Like, anything? Not even a stray thought like "Maybe we should try dating, once." Because I guarantee you, there is no way in hell a guy can do that. (Unless you are, physically, unattractive) I'm not one of those MRAs who whine about how the girl is selfish and that I deserve what I wanted, but the friend zone is a real thing that exists and it's a living hell for me.
>>398672
It's not just her. This has happened to me so many times, it's stripped layers of my sanity away each time. I can't do this anymore. I am literally living a life of torture.
>>398670
>How the fuck can a girl stay close friends with a guy for years, and stay single, without feeling any sort of attraction for him?
So you can't fathom feelings you yourself can't feel. Anon, that's a matter that goes way back.
>>398677
Yes, Anon. Clearly, I'm autistic. Wow, where'd you earn your MD?
If I'm attractive, and you're attractive, and we're both interested in the same shit, and we click enough to be close friends, of course I'm going to want more eventually. Ask anyone in that situation. But the friend zone concept seems completely lost on the opposite gender.
>>398670
>Unless you are, physically, unattractive
Uh, yeah, exactly. She's not attracted to you. This is not rocket science.
>>398679
For a suicidal person, you sure do get indignant at slights to your mental condition.
>>398670
>people must act according to the script I believe in, otherwise something is wrong with them
>>398673
>it's other people's fault that my life sucks even though any power those people have over me exists only in my head
>>398679
>I'm so mad that other people don't work the way I believe they are supposed to work, BICTHES AND WHORES, BRO
you say you are not an idiot/asshole, but you are
>I truly feel like it's time for me to end my life.
do it sooner than later, before you decide to take it out on whoever you believe is responsible for your faults
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person on /baw/ who isn't depressed. That's depressing.
>falling for a girl who's already rejected me once this year
>i literally just got over her
This is gonna suck.
>>398685
I'm also not depressed, but feel little reason to talk about my own life most of the time.
>>398684
Lol I literally didn't say or imply any of those things. You need inspection more than I do.
>>398689
Ditto that. About the only time I want to talk about my life is when I'm being a navelgazing lazy-ass or when I actually feel depressed.
What's he building in there?!
//youtube.com/watch?v=E-iENCZKFzk
>>398730
old internet tradition is dead
there is only politics now
>>398689
>>398690
>>398695
As someone who *is* depressed and on anti-depressants for it, let me just note that "not feeling like talking" could sometimes be a more telling sign than crying or anything. In a lot of ways depression is less about feeling sad and a lot more about feeling like it's not worth the trouble to do anything. Of course sometimes you just don't want to do (PARTICULAR THING), and that's fine and not necessarily a sign of depression. Not feeling like doing ANYTHING is much more likely to be depression even if you don't actively find yourself weeping or thinking of ending your life.
>>398711
I do it all the time. I picked it up from a friend. What's so weird about it?
>>398737
Not him, but on imageboards it's usually a bit out of place. Everything is impersonal and empty until the actual content of the message concerns you, and as a generalisation, exclamation is rare. Also, exclaiming more than once in a row in a forum or imageboard often suggests a person is 12 years old or mentally immature (or attention seeking, which is looked down on in anonymous communities).
I do it all the time on stuff like facebook and more social websites, but not here.
If I added exclamation to all of your comment, it just looks wrong to me. It's like you've had too much sugar.
>I do it all the time! I picked it up from a friend! What's so weird about it?!
>>398739
I had to stop myself from doing that.
...But yeah you're right. I do it on social media where youre kind of expected to show actual energy for what youre saying, especially considering I use my profiles for professional purposes. Can't really be apathetic about that. Guess I got used to it!
>>398740
I understand if it's to look professional and all that, but I don't understand using it for: Youtube comments, message board posts, Skype messages, etc. The first thing that pops into my head when I see it is "This person is older than 40 and doesn't know much about this strange interweb thing". I mean, nobody I know does it.
It's kinda like saying "haha" instead of "lol". It seems pretentious.
>>398741
I (poster >>398739) am fine with it on Skype but that's because of the people I hang with (like, he's in the drama club of course he will exclaim) but occasionally it gets annoying. YouTube is filled with young people who just transcribe parts the video in the comments one at a time, so I don't bother with them unless I care about the video creator.
>The first thing that pops into my head when I see it is "This person is older than 40 and doesn't know much about this strange interweb thing"
I get the absolute opposite effect ("This person is too young for this website, how did they even get here?")
But yeah, nothing wrong with it in personal interaction IMO but on more public sites it should be used only on occasion. Or the internet police will get you.
>>398744
I don't like high temperatures and I don't like the sidewalks and shops being flooded with people. Give me a good rainy day. Or at least an overcast chilly one.
>implying anyone still here knows who you are except like five people
I don't even know you. Who are you?
>>398751
He's the guy who beefed the pullout and accidentally became a daddy.
Sup Hydra.
>>398670
>>398679
As much as I prefer the idea of dating someone I know to asking out complete strangers who might be completely at odds with my life outside of romantic interest, I think it's important not to hang up on expectations of one person. They don't need to date you*, for whatever reason, even if they actually do find you highly attractive. Maybe she even thinks you're actually too similar or something. Concern with predicting what other people ought to think is just easily overdone when it comes to social activity n general and doesn't tend to help outside of "Don't do things you ought to know are annoying." The more sensible action here seems to be getting a wider circle of friends, maybe even helping each other look for other people.
*Which i admit you acknowledge, since you explain that your frustrations weren't meant to convey an insistence that she change her mind.
RIP Doug Winger.
;_;7
>>398768
Furry artist, if you've ever so much as scrolled past a Furry Friday thread you've seen his art.
Died from COPD.
Wasn't really a fan of his art, but it's always sad to see good people go. R.I.P.
>>398764
Oh shit, he died?
I don't really know him well but a lot of people were really sad about it.
>>398768
https://www.flayrah.com/6130/doug-winger-loses-battle-copd
I just purchased pornography.
>>398775
What'd you pay for? Amateur models posting photosets? Artist offering porn commissions? Indie authors self-publishing adult comics?
A brazzers subscription?
>>398778
>What'd you pay for?
A couple of JAVs. Picture related.
Bluh. Looked up someone from my past and I feel disgusted with myself as a result.
>my wake up alarm on fridays is the best song of the week
I shall sleep well tonight
>>398785
I do anyway, though. I’d get into why, but it’s a…bit of a sore spot for me, for a number of reasons.
There should be some sort of mandatory program that teaches young children that their parents are not perfect, and most likely flawed as fuck. Whenever there are family problems due to parents acting like assholes, stupid children blame themselves, because of the near instinctual belief in your own parents' infallibility. I know I did.
YouTube changed its layout once again.
Did it improve anything? No.
Is the 5 star rating back? No.
Man, I haven't been here in a year. I just keep forgetting this place. I remember back when the split first happened and it was fucking amazing. I still miss when the porn boards were joined I wonder what I missed.
>>398815
I don't see any changes.
Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger
>>398819
I added a banner. That's about it.
Oh, and Anonex retired shortly after moot (full details on homepage)
>>398825
Ah. YouTube's been rolling that change out slow over the past few months, I've heard.
>>398825
It's been that way since April. At least for me.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33262884
FUCKING. FINALLY.
/burgessshalenerd
>The study also helped to clear up another mystery - a strange blob found on the fossils that was once thought to be the creature's head.
>"What our study shows is that it has a different composition from the animal. And rather than representing part of its body, it actually represents decay fluid - the contents of its guts - squeezed out as the animal was buried and fossilised," said Dr Smith.
lol
>>398837
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_stain
It's even got its own wiki article.
A good way of improving the media taste of your very young siblings, is to watch preschool stuff with them, and point out all the stupid things in it.
>>398853
Or they can watch whatever the fuck they want on Nickelodeon.
I hate people who try to shape children's views through their own neckbeardy lenses. If I got to watch the retardedness that was Power Rangers when I was 6, kids these days can watch whatever the fuck they want.
And on that note, your idea isn't going to matter. My older sister and parents thought Power Rangers and Pokemon were stupid (and let me know), but they didn't try to get in the way of me enjoying it.
>package from Amazon stolen for the second time in two weeks
>never had a problem until now
Motherfucker.
I hope you enjoy your 10 packages of 3/8" wooden blocks, you dick. And that cheap halter dress.
Fuck you dude. Seriously fuck this shit. It's not even important stuff--my most expensive package delivered in the past couple weeks wasn't stolen--but it's enough to be irritating, especially after having such a shit month. I was even home today!
:(
>>398857
I don't think I said anything about telling kids what to like. Pointing out really dumb things is fair criticism.
>hear a lot of people always complaining when their paycheck doesn't arrive in time
>psssh, fuckers just can't live frugally
>buy a new PC
>paycheck is coming in late
>not willing to touch my savings account
>€20 left on my checking account
>>398853
I was going to say something like>>398857 but then I figured I had no idea what preschool stuff you meant, as it does vary in dumbness. Astro Blast, Cyberchase and Peg + Cat are the bomb right now, but then you have stuff made for babies that can't even talk yet that are just "This is a trumpet, this is an orange trumpet!."
>>398864
As a type of criticism it is, but while someone's trying to watch the show to enjoy watching it isn't a fair time. Just make sure to lay off it if they ask, or it just comes off like someone who talks loudly in the theatre because they think they're a great film critic. And also, they'll try to point out dumb things in what you like, which might be entirely different than what you think is dumb.
Sometimes I think cats use most of their intellect while asleep, to come up with the best sleeping positions possible. Mine is just insanely creative when snoozing on the couch.
>browsing through an art Tümbler of an artist I like a lot
>see mention of "trigger warnings"
>find a relatively unknown band that does some fucking SUMMER JAMS
>split between wanting to share the love everywhere or keeping my little secret, because it might become popular and not my little special thing anymore
Oh fuck, I am the hipster trash. It's me.
Great googly moogly the self hatred is powerful today, hoo boy
>>398892
but i thought you were awesome and married and super ripped, scrublord and everything was great with your life because you had lots of friends and were talented and had cheeks as smooth as a babies bottom and
>>398900
Not quite all, but definitely most.
I'm back from no internet place, and now I have to read a week worth of posts.
It's a good feeling.
For anyone who uses reddit:
Mass shitfest in progress. We are talking about magnitudes higher than the FPH stuff. Heaps of popular and default subs have been set to private, reddit is falling apart at a staff level. Imagine if moot kicked out the mods who ran the boards moot never visited (eg. /co/) without any notice and you're getting the picture.
http://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ is a good overview.
And if you don't use reddit, that's cool too.
>>398920
You know it. I'm already caught up.
>>398923
I think reddit is run by a bunch of retards. Just something I've observed from afar every time news breaks.
I don't pay a lot of attention to the place, but every time a shitstorm over there happens, it seems like dumb bullshit. At least with 4chan (and no, I'm not trying to make a claim that it's better) had bullshit, it was something with the userbase and not so much the administration.
>>398924
Yeah, I agree. 4chan has had a couple of hiccups (and other stuff people blamed moot for, just because) but nothing too big. It's surprisingly well run when you think about it.
I'm starting to hate how my parents are emotionally abusive as fuck and yet I can't complain about it since they still support me.
>>398930
Consider it a motivation to become independent. It motivates me.
My parents are not emotionally abusive, and despite having long wanted independence I find myself hesitant to persistently confront them about it as I do not with to be an annoying spoiled child who asks for things all the time. I get more time with the house to myself now, but I need to either push the car thing more or get an online career going, maybe game dev or webcomics.
My sister came over from California for dress fitting and cake tasting, she's getting ready for her wedding. Very nice to see her. My time at the beach a couple weeks ago was fine, and my back yard produced plenty of berries this year along with continuing the supply of peppermint. Things are getting pretty interesting for me on boards and IRC, and I might soon be inspired to write some fiction more interesting than fan greentexts.
>>398927
>It's surprisingly well run when you think about it.
moot was a better admin than most. I dunno if he read my comment on the stream, but I let him know that in one of his going away threads. I told him that while I didn't see eye to eye with him on everything, he still ran a decent ship and did a better job than most leaders of large communities.
>>398930
>yet I can't complain about it since they still support me.
That's no excuse to be emotionally abusive.
>>398937
Theoretically, everyone should be nice. Practically, being nice requires a lot of work, and most people are lazy.
Some people are jerks, and some of those jerks can be your parents.
You cannot stop every jerk from being a jerk. Some people stay jerks forever, and you have to deal with it.
>>398930
put all your effort into eclipsing them career-wise
then when they eventually ask for help from you, look down on them and whisper "no"
>>398937
I think it's more of a "don't bite the hand that feeds you" thing.
>>398938
>Practically, being nice requires a lot of work, and most people are lazy.
I just attempted looking up low-effort ways to be nice on several search engines, but the closest result I got was one on ways to be nice that don't cost much money. I suspect someone with extensive first-hand experience on the matter is unlikely to put in the work needed to compose such an article.
Who knew I would stumble upon porn on YouTube?
//youtube.com/watch?v=Ao0mij7EHUA
This fucking weather is killing me. I fucking hate summer so much. Fuck summer. Fuck summer. End summer forever. Nobody fucking needs it. I'm gonna move to Iceland.
>>398956
>in b4 you come back from Iceland, craving summer
A long time ago I saw an old painting online and I want to see it again but I have no idea what it is called or who the artist is.
I saw it on /hr/ but this was years ago and there are never even painting threads up anymore let alone ones with knowledgeable anons in them.
Anyone know of any online communities knowledgeable about this kind of thing?
>>398959
Was it a famous painting? What was the painting of?
Isn't there an art board on 4chan (IIRC there was art and art critique)?
Bluh. Gettin’ that “lost” feeling again. I really gotta sit down and plan some shit out. (And write some shit out, too. I need ideas.)
Sometimes it seems like some people I hear from on the internet have complimentary skills/projects and I should tell them about each other, but then often I feel as though it's not my place to try matching people up proffesionally if I'm not actively involved in either of their respective industries.
>>398961
Its /ic/ but its full of idiots who blame their failed careers on CalArts graduates.
>>398959
Wanna describe it? I was an art major. Admittedly, that wasn't my strongest area in school, but it's worth a shot, seeing if I know what you're talking about.
I have just watched a video to its very end without checking how much time was left. This is the first time I've done so in years. The digital age has ruined me.
Goddamn, Banana Joe was a scary motherfucker in the Gumball pilot film.
Why do people act like just because one guy screwed something up, means that anyone else would fail if they tried the same thing? Example:
>"Maybe the Nintendo NX will be VR"
>"God I hope not, we don't want another Virtual Boy. You know, the thing released 20 years ago with a completely different devteam?"
What the FUCK is the logic behind this thought process?
>>398979
Humans, in general, want to understand things quickly. Likely a hold-over from our hunter-gatherer days, when those who could make quick decisions about how to handle a predator or take down prey were most likely to survive. It's how we came to recognize patterns that didn't exist, like comets being omens of doom.
So whenever we hear about something new, or potential change to something we already know about, we look through our memory to see how anything similar fared in the past and quickly associate it. VR = goggles ==> Nintendo + goggles = Virtual Boy ==> Virtual Boy = failure; thus, Nintendo+VR = failure.
We don't need to do this, of course. Using your example, the NX is far off, and its success or failure is relatively inconsequential to overall life. But, between that human trait and strong feelings for or against certain brands, you get quick opinions like that.
>>398979
Even if it is the same devteam, it's not like they'll run into the same problem of red/cyan based 3D. If anything I'd just be concerned by Nindeno actually following a trend instead of making one, but they sorta did that when they gave the Wii U a tablet. Which I guess kind of does show that that it's not a great strategy for them, but not in the same way or extent as Virtual Boy was.
>>398980
Whenever I read comments like this, I wonder if the person is autistic. Not saying you are (science is science), just having such a animalistic Spock-ish view on humanity is frankly disturbing.
>>398987
I could have some level of autism. No clue. But I do have a lot of spare time and a heavy interest in general knowledge (with no friends or hobbies), so anything that mildly piques my interest tends to get a bit more in-depth research. It usually stops at reading synopsis of papers, rather than the papers themselves. I also try to approach everything from the perspective an outsider, someone who would have absolutely zero impact from any idea or any side of a debate. Thus I get to thinking about humanity at large from the view of an alien (sure, Spock), and that gets combined with various sociology studies.
But in this case it doesn't require too much disconnection. Neil deGrasse Tyson talked about the "fake patterns" thing in an early episode of his Cosmos run. It's obvious that things such as this are still at work today, such as the whole anti-vaccination crowd.
>>398981
>but they sorta did that when they gave the Wii U a tablet.
They also failed to follow trends that would have helped them, like online gaming and disc-based media, until their competitors beat them over the head with it. (I don't know what made them think that the tablet trend was the right way; I assume they saw "social" gamers were increasingly using tablets and phones for gaming, and somehow thought they would woo those gamers back by putting one in a controller.)
While VR will mature with time, I think Nintendo is the company that would cause a giant leap forward and set the standard. Despite lagging behind in other areas, they've always been at the forefront of "fun". If they undertake VR, but are unable to make it immersive, easy to use, and fun to use, then I don't know if VR would even be useful for gaming (at least, as we currently understand VR.) It helps that they have a bit of experience in "true" 3D thanks to the 3DS, mainly in things like perspective. Because of this, I would personally be quite excited about a VR console from Nintendo (so long as they don't try to put a tablet in the headset.) Their motion-sensing controllers, which are still the example of the industry (while MS and Sony have taken stabs, theirs have never been as good or widely used) can also be parlayed into this.
>people have collectively spent over a month watching some stupid 30 second video I edited
My ear just unblocked and it feels beautiful.
>>398987
>teating humans as anything but an unknowable black box implies mental illness
are you trying to out-stupid the politics thread?
>>398999
First of all the guy did admit that he might have autism.
Second, normally it wouldn't or else all scientists would be. But you don't expect that train of thought from someone browsing an imageboard. It's just a little disturbing.
>>399000
does the country you're from have a caste system?
because your random insistence on 'proper' roles and limits of knowledge seems very out-of-place
I read a long, personal story and cracked open my 'bawww' folder. Got some real emotion flowing. Almost cried for the first fucking time this year.
And it felt good to feel sad.
>>398996
Right? Sudden relief is great.
>>399004
Yup, same thing, sudden relief. No matter what bullshit people say about crying being "girly" or for cowards, a good, deep cry can help to relieve stress and emotions that have built up over time. Kind of like a long and heavy laugh, both can leave you feeling refreshed but for different reasons. I used to go looking for something to make me cry now and then, but haven't done it lately. Perhaps it would do some good...
The wild huckleberries growing near a school are so much sweeter than the cultivated blueberries in the garden.
What. The Fuck.
Domestication should not work that way!
>>399008
Part of domestication is about breeding for traits. The berries planted in the garden are likely seeds from generations of such cultivation, with a preference towards uniform look, plant hardiness, and maximum fruit bearing. These came at the cost of a richer taste and sweetness.
Tomatoes are the same way. The ones you buy in a supermarket have that shiny, red, round look everyone has been trained to desire, and they can survive traveling long distances, but they have very little flavor. Even organic varieties can suffer from this, if they were bred along the same lines.
>>399009
I know. It's just that the wild berry tree had as many berries at the blueberry bush. I think we just have a bad breed.
>>399010
Generations of plant inbreeding?
Maybe that line of blueberries was less sweet from the start, but got more popular anyway due to being raised by a group of farmers who are just really good at selling berry bushes. I wouldn't be surprised if they originally started out grown just because they were what was local, and then other people wanted to grow that type of berry in particular when it became popular despite sweeter ones being out there.
Or it could be that it was planted by someone who doesn't want their berries that sweet?
And for a fourth guess, it might be the soil being used up from intensive gardening that makes the blueberries less sweet, from garden plants taking up all the nutrients. Since I'm bringing up soil quality, I think I'll plug a link for slash-and-char farming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-char
We really need a new name for transphobia. Phobia implies fear. Nobody against trans people is actually afraid of them.
>>399015
"Phobos" doesn't just mean fear, it also means the act of withdrawing, i.e. revulsion / being repelled by.
>>399016
Yep, phobia isn't always fear. Hydrophobic stuff isn't scared of water.
Pulling an all-nighter makes me want to kill myself. Holy fuck this is miserable.
>>399015
http://www.stationarywaves.com/p/the-stationary-waves-lexicon.html lists the word "xenomisia" as "a hatred or dislike of foreign people, things, concepts, ideas, etc." that "need not actually entail any fear at all". One could take the "-misia" portion and place "homo-" or "trans-" before it to accomplish much the same effect in regards to gay and trans people, respectively.
oh my god
arguing on the internet actually gave me an erection
Spilled water on my laptop while it was in sleep mode. Waited two days and tried to turn it on.
It won't turn on and won't charge.
Fuck.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
My extended family is having a one-day reunion in a week. I said I would go, and I already got someone to cover for me. However, I'm thinking I might not. I have a very large extended family, and crowds are not my thing in the least. Plus, while they're all good people, I'm not close to any of them (barely so my parents, and not really my siblings.) I won't get any enjoyment out of it, and those kind of things have the potential to depress me as well, so it might be best I stay home.
>>399036
It's not for you, it's for your family. If I was you I'd be more depressed about NOT seeing them and what they couldn't say to you because you didn't show up. Stop being a selfish downer and go! And tell a few your fear of crowds, some will surely understand and assist you some how. For fucks sake.
>>399036
>I'm not close to any of them
Then take this opportunity to become close to them.
Shout out to that friend who tries to be helpfully critical without being discouraging.
And failing miserably.
>>399037
>Stop being a selfish downer and go!
I suffer from severe depression, which typically increases either during or directly after such gatherings. If I can avoid that feeling by not going, I won't.
>>399038
>Then take this opportunity to become close to them.
I've no desire to, though. It's been quite some time since I wanted any kind of close relationship. What's more, while they're good people they're not my kind of good people: I'm a nerdy, introverted, atheist liberal; they're outdoorsy, extroverted, religious conservatives. If I wasn't related to them, I would likely not even know they existed.
How do I stop myself from having feelings for someone else
I got a coworker with a boyfriend and yeah
This isn't for their benefit (I'm not about to ask this person out, being a coworker and someone in a relationship), but my own, because I'm going crazy. Not literally. I'm trying to find business elsewhere (find someone else to date) but it's not panning out as intended because online dating is not easy for me. The last woman I was chatting with on Tinder (yeah yeah, I know) was receptive of me, but stopped responding, so I either lost her interest or she found someone else to chat with. No harm no foul, but I'm still not making progress.
>>399041
Well
I know its impossible to ask this of someone who isn't me. But in my experience I just sort of made myself not feel anything in a way. Not literally, just. "You know what, its probably not a good idea I be interested in anyone if its going to be that much effort" and that's usually the end.
I take it you've tried something like that but the few times I've dated its sprung up more naturally than chasing someone.
>>399041
The nuclear option is the only real way to make feelings for someone go away, but that's not really an option with a coworker. Would it really be so bad to just accept that you like her but that nothing's going to happen?
I've got a relationship with a girl who I'm crazy about, and who likes me back even, but we've decided not to pursue it romantically for various personal reasons I won't go into right now. I still think about her a lot and we even flirt fairly often, but I also know that ultimately I'm never going to kiss her or fuck her or anything fun like that. But I still really enjoy our relationship with one another, and I've even gotten to the point that I'm not jealous of the other guy she started dating. I know not everyone can see things the way I do, but I *can* say from experience that once you accept your feelings (in spite of things not going the way they would in a perfect universe) it's possible to take more pleasure from them than frustration.
English language needs more different swear words.
>>399046
For now, take this fine collection of insults:
//youtube.com/watch?v=PjuhnuwFBQw
>>399046
Is meecrob not good enough for you?
While there is a limited number of 'base' swears, there are a shitton of swears that can be created by making them into compound words.
I love Louis CK but damn if his show isn't depressing as hell.
>>399057
I hear you on that. On the other hand, I kind of like some of the realism and stuff other people don't talk about much.
i like to call my dad a fuckin retard to his face whenever he starts to bother me and it always feels like it makes sense and is appropriate in the moment but several minutes later i feel awful for it and try and be friendly enough to apologize later
but then he gets all douchey and he starts to bother me again and i get over it.
http://psychic-vr-lab.com/deepdream/
Google's Deep Dream is what would happen if imgur had a baby with [s4s] while on acid. It's a ridiculous time waster with some minor brixshitting potential and also a unique filter for reaction images. It's also interesting to see what people upload.
>picking up items off the floor
>body is sore, don't want to bend, use a grabber arm
>drops grabber arm, it falls on the floor
>my brain hangs for like 10 minutes
>food poisoning
>22 hour train ride
>hard seat, not sleeper
>three hour train after that
>also hard seat
>hour long cab ride home
>now waiting in station from noon to 8 because I have to book another night at the hotel to stay there past noon
I was worse yesterday but I've still thrown up everything I've eaten in the past 48 hours. Except an apple. Bless apples.
>>399082
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Yeah, it's me again.
Is anyone good at Tinder? Another match just unmatched me after I sent her a message. No, it wasn't me just saying, "Hi" nor was it "ey gurl, let me eat that box". And no, this really doesn't have anything to do with my coworker. I legit haven't thought about her since I saw her at work last week. Progress!
>>399086
tinder is a hookup app
use it to hook up
no one's really expecting courtship on there
>>399089
>no one's really expecting courtship on there
lol. You haven't been paying attention to a ton of profiles on there.
Either way, I don't care if it's for hookups or relationships. I just want some company.
>>399069
Oh hey, here's a version with less of a queue:
https://dreamscopeapp.com/i/641254
>party photos come out
>made a conscious effort to try and look good in them
>still manage to look like a fucktard in every single photo
>not even in a funny way though, just stupid or weird
I really hope this is just some self-depreciative confirmation bias (or whatever the correct term is; I don't know). I guess I'm better just not trying to look good and just be normal.
>>399086
>Another match just unmatched me after I sent her a message. No, it wasn't me just saying, "Hi" nor was it "ey gurl, let me eat that box"
Then what was it? We aren't psychic.
I should give up trying to be anything.
>>399098
Nigga did I just catch you wanting to be shit?!
>>399098
Have you done anything of value in real life? A drawing of a palm tree counts.
>>399100
Does "existing" count? Because other than that and the few things of any remotely tiny value I've done in the furry community...no, no I have not.
>>399096
I can't remember the message because I can't see it anymore, but it was about hiring her as a fellow crimefighter (I have a stupid profile that's probably showing my /co/ as well as just trying to remain casual).
I'm just trying to get someone to talk to. I don't have any other outlets for this right now. I'm incredibly lonely, though it's not like I make mention of it, and I'm not leaving "PLEASE RESPOND" messages on my chats.
I'm kinda blogging at this point, but whatever. It's what happens when your friends don't live anywhere near you, everyone that does is busy, and no one is here to introduce me to new people.
>>399101
I wasn't joking. Drawing a few lovely things is an accomplishment. And that board of yours provided me with some fun. You can work for a site, you know. Help maintain an online community. If you ever switch to Linux, you could be a forum moderator.
If a drawing would cheer you up, tell me what to draw, and I will. No porn though.
>>399103
>and no one is here to introduce me to new people.
hhhhhhhhHHHHHH
>It's what happens when your friends don't live anywhere near you
>your solution to this is to use another online service
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
go outside, anon.
>>399108
>your solution to this is to use another online service
Yes, using an online service designed for meeting people. Offline.
Was there a point in here?
>>399112
I'm saying he's probably afraid of walking up to random people on the street to say hi because growing up no one in his family has ever done that, or at least not in front of him. How else is he supposed to meet new people by going outside It could help to get some more detail there.
>>399108
How am I suppose to interpret all those h's? Is it are you turning an exhale into a yell?
>>399113
I'm not afraid of walking up to random people. In fact, I don't know why you would think this in the first place. Let's look at what I've said so far: I'm trying to meet other people, and I'm using an online app to do so. An online app created with the intention of meeting people OFFLINE. Do you really think I'm afraid of strangers if I'm trying to find random people through a hookup app?
And I do actually say hi to people all the time. Neighbors, coworkers, people I walk past. I don't have an issue talking with people. I've worked in various customer service positions in the past as well as sales.
The point here is that I'm trying to find someone going from FWB to possibly dating. I really don't care. The issue is that not every person who is out and about (even in a social setting like a bar) is looking for the same thing I am. I'm not going to go bother a woman who just happens to be at a bar to unwind for the week. So yes, I resort to apps on my phone.
Sorry if I seem short with you, but stuff like "say hi" isn't exactly good advice when said person is already doing that (and has been for over a decade). And for that, I'll apologize for not divulging said info.
>>399116
>I'm not afraid of walking up to random people. In fact, I don't know why you would think this in the first place.
1. I didn't even know you were the same anon who posted the first thingy.
2. I was just taking a guess there because I was kind of bored, and figured you'd post later with an actual reply to Slowpoke.
>I'm trying to meet other people, and I'm using an online app to do so.
I'm not telling you not to.
>Do you really think I'm afraid of strangers if I'm trying to find random people through a hookup app?
I really think I don't care enough to keep reading this.
>>399117
>2. I was just taking a guess there because I was kind of bored, and figured you'd post later with an actual reply to Slowpoke.
Slowpoke isn't exactly a helpful person and hasn't been in a long time. He'll come in, make a few snide comments or whatever without contributing to discussion, then leave off.
>I really think I don't care enough to keep reading this.
That's nice, but you probably should have because I apologized for seeming short as well as not giving off information.
And that probably came off meaner than it sounded like, but come on, think about it. Why would a person afraid of people use an app designed for meeting people?
>>399110
That rather than just, you know, go meet people in person that you want to meet in person, you're going through another third party service. Just... Why not just go meet people?
>>399114
Something like that.
>>399118
>He'll come in, make a few snide comments or whatever without contributing to discussion, then leave off.
As flattering as the constant anon hate is, I will own this. I've become so exasperated with the people here that at this point I really can't even take them seriously most of the time. I used to think the "go outside" meme was pretty obnoxious but tbh at this point I raise it could solve like 99% of +4's problems, so now the only people I worry about are the ones in the food thread because they actually have problems they're willing to fix.
If you want honest discussion outta me though, lemme know, I can swallow my frustration for a bit.
>>399101
Your sprite work is good, though. As I tried to imply ( >>398970 ), there's other people I think would love to work with you if you don't want to write yourself, but I feel like I'd be too meddlesome if I went around
making suggestions like that unless someone asks me to. If I could get past my stubbornness that keeps me from using every IDE in existence or otherwise get a game made, I wouldn't object at all to hiring you. But until I know I can hold up my end of the deal reliably, I can't let myself potentially ruin a group business project. Also, I lost the link to your art blog, could you post that again?
>>399118
>That's nice, but you probably should have because I apologized for seeming short as well as not giving off information.
Ah, sorry for not reading then. I just didn't want to go and get myself worked up over it.
>Why would a person afraid of people use an app designed for meeting people?
To talk to them some before meeting them in person?
Personally, I don't have a car yet, and live in an area with little in the way of walking options given that we're right next to a road with fast cars and no sidewalk or even particularly flat ground next to it. I get told not to walk down it. I don't really have a way to get out on my own, and thus consequently haven't had the chance to experience what that involves. Part of why I need to get myself to make a game or something already. That and so I can use the resulting simulation environment as a virtual reality for testing embodied artificial intelligence, because that's something I always thought would be fun.
>>399121
My main Tumblr's at http://stephentstone.tumblr.com; I have a pro wrestling blog on Tumblr, but I haven't written a proper article for it in months and I'm thinking of putting it on a "permanent hiatus" if I can't figure out what the fuck to write for it. I also haven't been doing much of anything vis-á-vis pixel art, and I can't much figure out what to write for the personal blog because I lack both a unique-to-me message to spread and a voice with which to spread it - and I have no solid ideas for any sort of fictional story, too.
(Honestly, I'm one of the few people who could stand to put that "get out of the house" advice mentioned earlier to good use.)
>get sudden urge to cuddle with someone and give their penis lots of kisses
nnnnnoo nonono supress that urge. you're supposedto be a stone cold hate robot thats above relationshit damn it
>>399124
guy or girl?
Feeling less shitty today. A decent night's sleep (along with some weird-ass dream that I barely remember outside of getting to squeeze a woman's ass) seems to have helped get me out of my funk.
>>399128
Draw my "fursona", then. (And God, I hate that word, but it's useful shorthand.)
>>399129
I will draw your "character" (provide good reference plz) and something else, hope fully very soon.
>>399131
http://imgur.com/a/9k2zf
NSFW warning. (The best references for him are all NSFW.)
>>399124
>you're supposedto be a stone cold hate robot thats above relationshit damn it
Can't say I have anything but complete approval of this ideal.
>>399132
Man, that Minos is awful! He's not putting his long ass dick anywhere! You can see the tip of it right thOh
>>399120
Go outside really isn't useful advice. Like it really isn't. It's not really saying anything. It's almost like if you got sick and the answer was to take medicine. Well, which meds? How much of it? How long do I take it, etc.
It's also not helpful because it's usually uttered to shut ins who don't leave the house. I'm out of the house all the time.
And I already explained why I'm just not "meeting people." I don't want to bother people who aren't looking for what I am. Not everyone is hanging out at a bar to find dick/pussy/dating partners. I don't want to bother with that guessing game. So I went to something else.
>>399121
No harm no foul.
And no, it's not to talk to them before I meet them in person. It's to meet some people who are looking for what I am.
>>399140
>Not everyone is hanging out at a bar to find dick/pussy/dating partners. I don't want to bother with that guessing game. So I went to something else.
>And no, it's not to talk to them before I meet them in person. It's to meet some people who are looking for what I am.
Man, I really need to make that app I wrote about in the crazy ideas thread.
>>399143
So many people who think you're just really into depictions of vocal jazz.
>>399144
Here >>392964
And checking the date, it seems that for the U.S. anyway I actually do still have time to file for a patent! I'll try to get to it in the morning, and also try to email my uncles who both raise cattle about this generator system, which might not be useful to them since they don't have Indian breed cattle but it's fun anyway: //youtube.com/watch?v=6VZqlFS5Nhg
On the other hand, my generator-as-information-sink idea ( >>394127 ) might take longer to catch on.
For once, I am happy I have the type of hair I do. Light brown reflects the sun's heat pretty well, not allowing my head to overheat in summer.
Sometimes I wonder why google slowly removed feature by feature from youtube. Like it wouldn't somehow be obvious they where making it less and less functional.
>>399123
>I can't much figure out what to write for the personal blog because I lack both a unique-to-me message to spread and a voice with which to spread it - and I have no solid ideas for any sort of fictional story, too.
I'm pretty indecisive when it comes to writing myself, but in my experience I'm actually a pretty useful sounding board for other people to bounce ideas off of, as well as for brainstorming ways to fill in plot holes. If that sounds like it'd be of use, hop on the IRC and I'll try to show up.
>>399159
Eh, I might pop on later tonight, then.
>>399158
Maybe it took up bandwidth and they know they don't really have any competitors.
http://stephentstone.tumblr.com/post/124433682668/pixel-art-pixel-dailies-20150718-kane-portrait
HOORAY FOR GETTING SHIT DONE. 👍
Ugh, the family reunion happening tomorrow isn't just my extended family, but my extended-extended family (second cousins, great aunts, etc.) I think I will go, but chances are good that I'll peace out after like a half hour. Of the dozen or so immediate cousins only two really click with me, and they both won't be there. I have no idea who any of my second-whatevers are. Plus if the place is packed my level of discomfort will skyrocket.
>exam week starting tomorrow
>Prequel updates
well shit.
>>399162
Yeah, I'm liking this sprite. Good job getting something done, I ought to get back to that already.
Pure Data's been getting my interest, maybe I'll see what I can do with it.
The online dating website for married people has been hacked.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/online-cheating-site-ashleymadison-hacked/
http://www.rt.com/news/310235-dating-ashley-madison-hacked/
>The service, whose slogan is “Life is short. Have an affair”, has seen large amount of data stolen, said KrebsOnSecurity, adding that the leak “compromised the company’s user databases, financial records and other proprietary information."
>20.3% of men and 10.2% of women have confessed their affairs!
>The Impact Team posted the ‘strawberry’ data online, saying that ALM lied to its customers that the site allows users to completely erase their profile information for a $19 fee.
>“Full Delete netted ALM $1.7mn in revenue in 2014. It’s also a complete lie,” the group said in a statement, as cited by KrebsOnSecurity. “Users almost always pay with credit card; their purchase details are not removed as promised, and include real name and address, which is of course the most important information the users want removed.”
>The hackers said that Avid Life Media “has been instructed” to take Ashley Madison “offline permanently in all forms, or we will release all customer records, including profiles with all the customers’ secret sexual fantasies and matching credit card transactions, real names and addresses, and employee documents and emails.”
If they leak the data.... 37 million marriages about to be dissolved due to cheating.
>>399184
>invest in divorce law company shares
>make millions
I wonder if there are men on this planet who don't find lesbians hot. MUH DICK loves them.
>>399191
Living with an actual one turns you off pretty hard.
>>399191
They find the concept of homosexual women arousing. The concept. Not any actual people.
Its like women. People like the concept of women more than they actually like women.
>>399196
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/
>>399197
You're usually playfully troll-y, but this is downright malicious.
>>399196
Yeah bruh, I have jacked it PRETTY hard to some conceptual defiance of societal norms. Porn is a pretty big turnoff tho ://
I had a disturbingly vivid, real nightmare that my dick fell off.
>>399224
I had one too. In it I actually had a gf, and it was before I knew how dick is made, so there were bones inside.
I've got to learn to compliment people more. I'm not talking about dick-riding or anything, but just everyday stuff. For example, a person has recalled something another person mentioned a while ago.
>normie: Yeah, good memory!
>what I would have said: Yeah, I didn't think you would remember that!
(notice, my answer could be mistaken for an insult)
Although I don't mean it, I have a kind of condescending tone. It's just the way I've learned to talk.
Figured something out about myself today: I don’t have a “hook”—you know, something that makes me an interesting person in some way. I’m not much of anything.
That said: I'm thinking about using next month to get away from the Internets at large and write until my fingers fall off. It won’t be a “hook” or anything, but it’d give me a chance to figure some more shit out.
>>399250
You are me at the age of 18. Back then I suddenly found that I have no personality, that I am empty inside.
But this is what I learned. A human being is born as an incomplete puzzle. What that means, is that you will never become "you", until you find enough of the missing pieces, and rebuild yourself into a complete whole.
Basically, personality is almost never given; it's discovered. Discover yourself somewhere. Travel, even just around your town. Meet people. Find the missing pieces of yourself.
I know this may sound really stupid, but that is what real life taught me.
>>399250
Not necessarily a bad thing, your work can speak for itself without leaning on your persona as an author.
But Mr. Stone always struck me as the kind of name a Bond villain's right-hand man would have, like Jaws.
>>399254
Actually Twister, I think it's one of the best things you've said here yet. I agree fully.
With myself, I've realised that a lot of the things that make me interesting are things I don't want people IRL to know about (eg, furfaggotry, dark sense of humour, anhedonia, obsession with a certain cartoon, moderator/janitor of inappropriate websites/subreddits, maker of retarded embarrassing videos). I've got some other stuff to talk about but jeez I'm hiding a lot. It might just be me being insecure but I don't want to see my social life go to shit by showing those parts of my true personality.
>>399257
Well, I'm much the same way, only I’ve got a two-fold problem on that front: My life’s a pretty open book on the Internet (I’ve…made a lot of dumb mistakes), and I don’t socialize with anyone outside of the Internet. Even on the Internet, my socialization is limited at best.
>>399258
Maybe this will help you, but my closest friends in real life are my mother's friend, my sisters, and a couple of college professors. Friends don't have to be your age, they can be anyone.
And I will gladly meet certain Internet friends IRL, if I could.
I like the blackberries growing behind my house, and would like to have some more of such bushes. My mom isn't interested in getting more, so what I've done is secretly planted some fresh blackberries in the soil of some potted plants in the house the previous plants of which have died, to see if they'll grow enough to transplant out into the yard. And also started them off with a little bit of orange juice along with their water, since I've heard they're very acid-loving.
>>399259
That's not the problem, so much as it is I don't have any way of getting out into the world (and I live in a secluded spot as it is), and (as mentioned) my life’s kinda easily Google-able and bound to be off-putting.
>>399260
>And also started them off with a little bit of orange juice along with their water, since I've heard they're very acid-loving.
I once wondered what would happen if I watered plants with diluted blood--aside from the obvious "attracting a ton of bugs."
Still kind of want to try it.
>>399262
About the 'Google-able' thing:
1) do you have a unique name so that you cant say "Oh, that's some other Mr. Stone!"
2) privacy settings?
3) do people even google each others names anymore, apart from finding facebooks/etc. or deciding to hire?
And by secluded, are we talking a cabin in the woods secluded, or small town in the desert secluded, or what?
>>399265
It's not terribly unique, but looking it up in relation to my state would probably net enough results to where people could narrow it down—especially since I’ve got a picture or two attached to it (and my Internet nom de plume by association). As for privacy settings…well, I don’t think Encyclopædia Dramatica has those. :P
And by secluded, I mean “living in a small town on the beach”. Like, super small. No real neighbors to speak of and it takes at least ten minutes to get anywhere that has any real social activity (that isn’t the beach). That doesn't even matter because I don't drive and I don't have any other mode of (vehicular) transportation.
>been in LDR for a long time with dude because I'm a faggot
>have shared pics, never noticed anything wrong or out of the ordinary
>after a while we finally share Facebook
>look at his photos
>MASSIVE overbite, like seriously you have no idea
>looks like fucking Goofy
Jesus christ, how much of an asshole would I be for this to be a dealbreaker? I mean he's a great guy but fuck if he doesn't have THE ugliest smile I've ever seen.
>>399271
is it something you can get over?
if yes, then get over it.
if no, then break it off soon, don't keep dragging the dude along only to cringe away when you meet up and he goes in for the kiss.
>>399271
Also, post pics. Block out the top half of his face if you want.
>>399273
Here. This is how bad it is. It's really not something I think I can get over, unless I convince him to get corrective surgery.
Oh god I hope this is just a manageable allergy/sensitivity and not hearing loss.
>>399273
Yep, pics.
One might think this is a joke site, but it's not http://www.bagsofcrap.net/faq.html
>woman from my RPG group asks me out
>she's 20 years older than me, but she's pretty hot so why the fuck not
>mfw she only just twigged that there's an age gap
In her defence, my hair is starting to grey (thanks for the recessive genes, Mum!) so she probably assumed I was closer to her age; turns out she's got a "nobody under 50" rule for dating, which is fair enough, I guess.
>>399280
At first I literally thought it would be crap so I was pleasantly surprised.
Year 34 is done.
My sister is getting married. Second oldest of five kids. I'm sure my parents will be thrilled (none of us have ever had serious relationships until her), but she's not taking the usual "no date/not for a year" thing yet; she's having a small ceremony on Labor Day weekend. My depression is at the worst it's ever been (outside of the military), and while I'm still waiting to see if this new medication regiment kicks in I don't think I'll be improved by then. While I know she wants me to go, I don't even have the energy to fake a smile anymore, and a dour attitude standing around the entire time is unlikely to help in any way. Plus it's two states away and my boss is off for the two weeks surrounding that, which leaves me as the only person who knows the tech in the office. (There is a contractor, but he's more expensive and only knows the hardware side.)
I wish I could just stop sweating. Or, at least, mostly. I don't remember the last time it actually helped me. It is disgusting, leaves you sticky, and it smells bad.
I want to express myself but I also don't want to be a whiny bitch.
I wonder how many people who use the term "Lovecraftian" actually read Lovecraft.
Why do I keep seeing otherkin deny character's actions by saying, 'I would never do that!'
What does that even mean?
>>399356
Sounds very self explanatory to me, though still dumb and delusional. If they think they're a character, they think the other character is them, and if the character then starts deviating from them they feel confused.
>>399356
>all those 'ask-[character]' tumblrs that are nothing like the actual character
Ugh
But yeah, what the Anon above said. I can understand empathising with a character or feeling like a character is similar to you, but this 'I am the character' otherkin shit is stupid. Creators should just mess with them.
What if the character gets killed off???
>relaxing under the shower
>suddenly something starts to smells kinda funny
>open my eyes
>my body is covered in blood
Turns out it was just a nosebleed, which the running water spread out all over my body, but goddamn that was the shock of a lifetime.
>Roddy Piper and Dusty Rhodes dead within the past two months
This is a hard year to be a pro wrestling fan.
Apparently, I can drag+drop a bookmark onto a tap, and that tab will go to the address. The more you know...
Dildos are socially acceptable for women, but artificial vaginas aren't for men. Why? I'm curious since one of the twitter accounts I follow is making fun of a guy for getting one.
>>399379
Because, while the inability to score may be tolerated, giving up on scoring forever shows you as a sex coward.
>>399379
Because misogyny has a bad effect on men, too, despite the fact that everyone tries to treat it as Women's Issues. Under a patriarchal system, it is expected that all men should be 1.) constantly looking for real pussy 2.) capable of acquiring real pussy and 3.) need no assistance or advice in acquiring pussy. So a man who uses sex toys is demonstrating a lack of masculinity. Women are allowed to do this because, for women, having sex is seen as decreasing their value as women while for men, having sex is seen as increasing their value as men--so a woman having masturbatory aids is preserving her value by helping her to preserve her virtue, while for a man, having masturbatory aids is seen as "giving up" on one of the things expected of the Masculine Ideal as it is seen by Patriarchal Society. A man with masturbatory aids is not seen as a Conquerer, and as such he is seen as a Lesser Man.
>>399384
SJW ALERT!
SJW ALERT!
>>399380
This basically. Dildos aren't even comparable to the feeling of a guy fucking you with a real dick. Whereas fleshlights are pretty damn similar to what an actual vagina feels like sans moaning noises. The former is a holdover, the latter is a replacement.
>>399388
holy fucking shit you fucking idiot this has literally nothing to you with your stupid assfucking forced feminism debate
please get banned for ruining this thread
>>399389
It does and I just explained to you how it does. I'm sorry you get triggered so quickly from seeing certain words that you're unable to engage in discussions.
>>399384
This is an awful post and reading it gave me etc etc but
I don't really have a retort or counterpoint
Women jackin off and men jackin off are kind of seen as fundamentally different, and I can't prove or even BS that it isn't because of what you said
Kind of alarming.
>>399390
Feminism is not a debate. It's not a discussion. It's a shitflinging session. It has absolutely fucking nothing to do with what anyone was talking about, and you forced it on the thread just to start shit. Fuck. Off.
>>399395
You are the one who's taking the discussion off topic. We were discussing why masturbatory aids are frowned upon for men and not for women. I offered an explanation. You threw a tantrum because I used words you don't like and contributed nothing to the discussion but bitching about the fact that people are talking about things you don't like. You're the one who is starting shit.
>>399396
You could've offered your explanation without sounding like a typical tumblr feminist.
You're all being idiots. Thank God this thread hit the bump limit.
>>399384
I see some people losing their shit over this post. Why? It's 100% truthful.
>>399399
And to elaborate: dudes get clowned all the times by their peers for masturbating. I remember being a teenager and seeing people get made fun of for jacking off, as if it was some sort of freakish thing to do.
Guys are told that they need to go out and find a woman to bust a nut in. Why do you think guys get shamed so hard for being virgins? When people think of a dude masturbating, they think of someone pathetic who can't get laid, in spite of there being many "legit" reasons not to have sex (not in a relationship, not liking a hookup scene, girlfriend is away, etc). What makes this shit worse is that VIRTUALLY EVERYONE masturbates. That's right, people try to shame guys for masturbating, then go home and release some of their own cockslime into a napkin.
It's fucking amazing how you people see a word like patriarchy and go crazy. Like seriously, go study some shit in your free time. Part of the whole patriarchy is also dumb bullshit that men do to other men...like shaming them for not having sex.
I want to delete the SJW post but then no-one would know what people are yelling about.
How the fuck did that person find this site anyway? I hope to god this is an elaborate troll.
>>399399
Nigga she capitalised 'Women's Issues', 'Patriarchal Society' and 'Lesser Man' ffs. Do you not see an issue with this post regardless of its delusional opinion?
And yes, I wrote 'she' because they obviously have no idea about men's expectations of each other.
>>399398
I'm enjoying my anger, Stone. This thread is dead so I'm getting it out of my system.
>>399401
>Do you not see an issue with this post regardless of its delusional opinion?
Did you even read the post? Or mine for that matter? First off "Lesser men" is absolutely right. What the hell else do you call it when dudes get shit on for not being as sexually active "as a man should"?
Second, patriarchy ALSO refers to the dumb shit that men do to other men. Everything is not all about women, and in fact, both of our posts spent time explaining just this.
Be honest with me, how much of this are you actually familiar with academically and how much of it came from you browsing tumblr? I also can't help but notice that at no point did you ever point out what was wrong with the posts. You seriously got triggered by some words and flew off the handle without actually critiquing anything that was said.
>And yes, I wrote 'she' because they obviously have no idea about men's expectations of each other.
Well this is just silly. What about that post is "inherently female"? Please be objective.
>>399402
>Nigga you get clowned for NOT jacking off.
Where? On the internet?
Because people in real life may giggle at you and think you're weird for owning a fleshlight. Keep in mind that the whole world isn't 4chan where every other discussion is how much you jacked off to anime characters.
>>399401
>This thread is dead so I'm getting it out of my system.
Fair enough. A little venting can be good.
>399403
>What the hell else do you call it when dudes get shit on for not being as sexually active "as a man should"?
I’d call it “other people being douchebags”.
>how much of this are you actually familiar with academically and how much of it came from you browsing tumblr?
Could probably ask you the same thing.
>>399405
>I’d call it “other people being douchebags”.
You do realize in this context that "lesser man" refers to what idiots think of someone who isn't getting laid right?
And also, linguistically, what the hell is the point of changing words around if it's going to mean the same thing.
>Could probably ask you the same thing.
Based on what exactly? I'm not flying off the handle over someone else's language.
>>399403
>Did you even read the post?
No, I just read the post number and decided to debate with you.
All these things that you claim happens to men (such as bullying because of a low sex drive), I have never seen happen. Ever. Therefore, I see your posts as invalid.
>patriarchy ALSO refers to
Patriarchy is just a structural system. You are reading too much into the word.
>calling another person 'tumblr'
>getting mad because I disagree without publishing an essay academically rebutting all your points
You ain't worth that much of my time.
Also, I would go as far as saying an academic knowledge of women's studies doesnt mean shit in this debate, compared to real world experience of male social norms.
>>399404
>what are hands?
>>399408
>I have never seen happen. Ever. Therefore, I see your posts as invalid.
Did you just seriously argue that "because I haven't seen it, it doesn't exist at all"? Because I don't doubt you've never seen it, but to claim that it doesn't exist simply because of this is silly.
Also know that I'm not reading the rest of your post if this is the level of discourse I can expect from you.
Says the person who doesn't actually rebut points. You're on an anonymous Czechoslovakian BASE jumping forum, I'm curious as to what style of discourse you were expecting.
>>399412
>I'm curious as to what style of discourse you were expecting.
I was expecting someone to talk back and forth and debate like you're older than fucking 12. Just because you're on the internet or an image board doesn't mean you have to argue like you're missing brain cells. If you want to act like a retard, let me just call you a faggot so you can go back to shitposting.
Faggot.
The hypocrisy is killing me. Oh jesus.
In other news, I'm starting to get fit and healthy again. Yay!
>>399401
>And yes, I wrote 'she' because they obviously have no idea about men's expectations of each other.
Actually, I am a man, and I am basing this on personal experience both of myself and of other men I have encountered in real life. The expectations men place on other men due to this shit does far more harm to men than anything any other group could ever possibly do to us. Toxic masculinity is one of the foremost things hurting men's abilities to both be free to be ourselves and also to have positive self-image because of the unrealistic expectations placed upon us by a society that wants us to strictly adhere to outmoded gender roles. Even seeking help in almost anything--like masturbatory aids, but also like therapy--makes us seem to be lesser in the eyes of our peers when society forces ideas of how Real Men are supposed to behave upon us.
>>399406
>And also, linguistically, what the hell is the point of changing words around if it's going to mean the same thing.
Political correctness. To protect the delicate sensibilities of Anons like >>399401.
>>399416
political correctness never did anything for anybody
>>399417
>>399418
You realize of course that I'm mocking people who get upset when people use words like "feminism" and "patriarchy" and things when I say that, right? I'm saying that the reason you're asking me to use different termniology to refer to the same concepts is because you feel it is politically incorrect for me to use those terms in this environment because of how they affect your tender fee-fees.
>>399417
Political correctness is for politicians. For everyone else, it's called “trying not to be an asshole”.
>>399419
>>399420
Yeah, like. Political Correctness as a practice is basically just common non-alienation speech. "Hey don't put X person under scrutiny, we have mutual ends" or "Speaking badly about this one person might affect your long term image"
But lolinternet usage of the term is basically rubbing elbows with 'censorship' standing in with anything you don't like.
I wish I could choke every single faggot on DA who sends me llamas. I AM NOT GIVING YOU ONE IN RETURN YOU ATTENTION GRUBBING ASSHOLES!
>>399420
>asshole
This shit isn't black and white. Stop boiling everything you disagree with down to a few insults just to make you not have to think.
>>399424
>This shit isn't black and white.
No shit it's not. But if you're railing about "political correctness" over inclusive language and attempts to not be an asshole towards traditionally mistreated groups of people (e.g. gay people, trans people, black people), you're being an asshole and I have as much right to push back against it as you have to be an asshole. You don’t get to tell me how I use my voice—and while I’d hope you would listen when I say “Maybe try not being an asshole”, you have every right to say “Go fuck yourself” in return.
>>399425
>I’d hope you would listen when I say “Maybe try not being an asshole”, you have every right to say “Go fuck yourself” in return.
See, that's your problem. Instead of treating this as equal sides to a debate in order to reach a conclusion, you instantly assume yourself to be "the one who's not an asshole" and paint yourself as the one who, instead of saying "You're an asshole" earlier, you're being so nice and sincere and saying "Oh, maybe you could try not doing this?" and paint the other person as some neanderthal who, if he disagrees he's just "not listening to you" and isn't being "mature and understanding" like you of course are, according to your own personal beliefs.
>>399426
>you instantly assume yourself to be "the one who's not an asshole"
What makes you think I’m doing that? Dude, I know I’m an asshole. Ask any regular poster here and they’ll tell you the same fucking thing. I’m merely trying to be less of an asshole than I’ve been in the past—and less of an asshole than you. (And now you’re picturing a bunch of assholes next to your face. Have fun with that.)
>instead of saying "You're an asshole" earlier, you're being so nice and sincere and saying "Oh, maybe you could try not doing this?" and paint the other person as some neanderthal who, if he disagrees he's just "not listening to you" and isn't being "mature and understanding" like you of course are, according to your own personal beliefs
If I’m not given a reason to respect you, I’m not going to show you that respect. You’ve been a bit confrontational, too, and I’m more than willing to get down in the muck and mire of slinging insults if you really want to play in the mud. I know better than to do that shit—but this is a non-bumping thread, I’m in a bit of a mood, and you seem willing to roll with the punches. Don’t whine at me when I toss them; try taking them and coming back with better punches.
>>399427
Don’t get your tail in a knot, MT, it’s a non-bumping thread that the mods (do we still have mods?) can lock at any time.
>>399423
>soundcloud
>i've never made music
>10 followers
>not following a single one back
>>399428
>do we still have mods?
Unless I got fired for inactivity, I'm still on the payroll.
I uh, don't remember my password, though, to be honest.
The older I get the more I realize that I want to be a normie. I don't want to know what the latest dank memes are. I don't want to be the hip anti-mainstream guy with radical opinions. I don't want to be a "true" nerd. I just want a life outside of the internet.
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| time taken: 0.00066304 | SELECT *, ( SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT `kobaboardban`.`boardid` ORDER BY `kobaboardban`.`boardid` SEPARATOR ',') FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `banid` = `id` GROUP BY `banid` ) AS `active_boards` FROM `kobaban` WHERE ( (`iplong1` = '03eefa49') OR (`iplong1` <= '03eefa49' AND '03eefa49' <= `iplong2`) ) AND `type` IN(-1,0,1,2,3) AND (`id` IN ( SELECT `banid` FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `boardid` IN(1) ) OR `global` = 1) ORDER BY `type`,`expiration` DESC | no rows found or affected (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.01796603 | SELECT p.*, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, s.total_posts, s.total_files, s.total_image, s.total_audio, s.total_video, s.total_swf, s.unique_ip, s.unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r on p.boardid = r.boardid and p.postid = r.postid LEFT JOIN `kobapoststats` s on p.boardid = s.boardid and p.postid = s.threadid WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`postid` = '398314' AND `parentid` = '0' AND `deleted` = '0' UNION ALL SELECT p.*, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, null as total_posts, null as total_files, null as total_image, null as total_audio, null as total_video, null as total_swf, null as unique_ip, null as unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r on p.boardid = r.boardid and p.postid = r.postid WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND `parentid` = '398314' AND `deleted` = '0' ORDER BY `parentid`,`postid` | no error (prepared query) |
| time taken: 0.00249505 | SELECT `boardid`, `parentid`, `postid` FROM `kobapost` WHERE (`boardid` = 1 AND `postid` IN(397014,392964,394127)) AND `deleted` = 0 | no error |
actions:
| after_postmessage | actions: 1 | start: 1680264178.61833000 | end: 1680264178.61833800 | took (total): 0.000008 |
| before_validation | actions: 1 | start: 1680264178.58341600 | end: 1680264178.58343200 | took (total): 0.000016 |
| footer_meta | actions: 9 | start: 1680264178.64373800 | end: 1680264178.64382000 | took (total): 0.000082 |
| header_meta | actions: 5 | start: 1680264178.61774700 | end: 1680264178.61781900 | took (total): 0.000072 |
| setup_html | actions: 4 | start: 1680264178.61753400 | end: 1680264178.61763200 | took (total): 0.000098 |
| validation | actions: 1 | start: 1680264178.58346100 | end: 1680264178.61742700 | took (total): 0.033966 |
Rewrite/redirect rules:
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Redirect | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | $matches[1]\/ | 302 |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/(\d\w*)s.png$/ | /$matches[1]/thumbs/$matches[2]s.png | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/?(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]&pagenumber=$matches[2] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=catalog&board=$matches[1] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$/ | index.php?section=thread&board=$matches[1]&thread=$matches[2]&ext=$matches[3] | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$/ | index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss | |
| Rewrite: | /^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$/ | index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss |
rules in htaccess format:
RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$ $1/ [R=302,L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/(\d\w*)s.png$ /$1/thumbs/$2s.png [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)/(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=index&board=$1&pagenumber=$2 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=catalog&board=$1 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$ index.php?section=thread&board=$1&thread=$2&ext=$3 [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$ index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$1&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss [L,QSA] RewriteRule ^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss [L,QSA]Current time:
2023-03-31 05:02:58