/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>249894
>My FUARKING HEROES are the OP
Yup yup yup

>>249894
>Booru discussion also welcome
Wait, there's a booru?

>>249898
I think /co/llection still works. The rest are dead, either completely (booruplus) or functionally (the old /v/ king queen booru).

You know what's strange? The shota tournament currently doesn't have a page on the wiki while Animalfucker's very questionable /an/lympics does.

>>249916
Does the loli tournament have one?
In any case you can make it

>>249921
>Does the loli tournament have one?
It does.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Loli_Goddess_of_/tnt/

>>249894
>decide to check the "Progress Tables" for each tournament
>Queen - round 3 or higher
>King - only includes E8
>Mr. - round 4 or higher
>Ms. - doesn't have one
Some consistency would be nice.

>>249927
I think Queen has the best format, up to round 3 is good because it is notable enough but not overwhelming. It isn't up to date on all characters however, A2 for example is missing her 2025 run.
But I don't know how to edit that thing.

King needs to add the round 4 and 3 too.

I don't know anything about /co/ but round 3 should be added if they care for it.

Looking at Queen 2019 I realized Lilly Satou was on the bracket but not on the Contestants List somehow.

>>249940
I guess R4 should be enough for now. But Ms. should be priority I guess.

>>249943
It's a bit more convenient for /v/, since each contest has its own navigation template with all contestants and their performance that year, so you can compare very easily.

>>249929
>>249940
On one hand, making it to Round 4 (Sweet 16) is a more significant achievement, and would less work to add them to the other tables. On the other hand, keeping the tables consistent would mean removing all the Round 3ers from Queen's table.

>>249952
How about we make it round 4 for all and Queen keeps R3 because it's already as it is.

>>249938
Finished looking at it autistically.
For some reason Missile from Ghost Trick in on the 117 spot on the list despite not being in the bracket.
Lilly probably should be on that spot.

And looking at Bracket B, In the round 1: Roll vs Celes, the spot for Celes is left blank.

>>249954
At least we still have the 2019 polls to check, 2020 ones are gone.

>>249957
Can google polls be archived somehow? whatever happened in 2020?

>>249929
Round 3 is nothing special, it's the latest you can go and still be forgotten unless you do it consistently. Top 16 is something people actually keep track of especially since the weaker half are the strongest characters who can return the next year(hence the ninth place meme)

>>249959
Most likely: the jewgle account hosting them got baleeted.
I noticed some minor tourneys that were hosted by Balls have met the same fate.

Rule of thumb:
>Top 16 in mains always gets in, rounds lower than that require extremely good attendance
>If you've been in Co-Op or Tag Team only the Top 4 teams(top 8 characters) get wiki seats(and almost all of them have qualified for mains anyway)
>Any other side tournament and you need to have won it for it to get you a page(and again most of those have already qualified elsewhere)
>If you already have a wiki page you can keep it

>>249965
The way it unofficially has always been, you have to qualify for one of the four mains to get a page. If it is anything else you have to had won the tournament to get a page and have enough history to be discussed. Anyone else was grandfathered in
Getting a page is then based on someone caring to make one

>>249965
Loona had a page before qualifying for Ms. /co/ because of her massive and extremely good preformance in the side tournaments. Side tourney only characters shouldn't be "excluded", but they should have a way higher bar to meet.

>>249965
>>If you've been in Co-Op or Tag Team only the Top 4 teams(top 8 characters) get wiki seats(and almost all of them have qualified for mains anyway)
Are we missing any?

>>249972
Just looking at Tag Team...
>2019 has everyone
>2020 is missing Klaus, Jesper, Miguel, and Tulio
>2021 is missing Brett and Koko The Clown
>2022 is missing Cpt. Amelia
>2023 is missing Rogard, Kent, Moomintroll and Snufkin
>2024 is missing Rex Salazar, Sawyer, and Danny
>2025 is missing Scratch, Grounder, and Max Goof

Sticks the Badger stands out for doing well in side tournaments and then actually turning that into doing well on mains later, only real major case of that outside of maybe Max from Sam and Max.

>>249975
Brett and the Giant Localizers should probably be there for winning, Scratch and Grounder are notable enough to have pages, maybe Max too? I guess Koko for being the oldest nominated character. The other half so little presence that unless it's a hard rule I don't know if it's worth it even if they all made Top 4 in TT.

>>249975
Mansley does have a page.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Kent_Mansley

>>249954
Fixed it.

>>249971
>Loona had a page before qualifying for Ms. /co/ because of her massive and extremely good preformance in the side tournaments.
Wut? Loona qualified for Ms. before either of her side tourney wins. The thing where she got btfo round 1 despite being 3rd seed happened in 2021.

I've complied a list of all the guys in King who've made it to Round 3/4, separated incase we decide to only go up to Round 4.
>Round 4
Bowser
Funky Kong
Gordon Freeman
Regigigas
Spy
Goro Majima
Agent 47
Captain Falcon
Soldier
Charles
Kirby
Spamton
Christopher Robin
Engineer
Mario
Pepsiman
Simon Belmont
Isaac Clarke
Father Garcia
CJ
Dagoth Ur
Gene
King Harkinian
>Round 3
Alien Hominid
Doc Luois
Earthworm Jim
Geese Howard
Godot
Kyle Hyde
King of All Cosmos
X
Priest (Age of Empires)
Rance
Richter Belmont
Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
Adam Jensen
Chris Redfield
G-Man
Registeel
Sundowner
Big Smoke
Dog (Silent Hill)
Bill
Master Chief
Big Boss
Dracula
King Dedede
Max Payne
Solaire
Asura
Battler Ushiromiya
Caoch
Isaac Kleiner
Link
Postal Dude
The Knight
Tony Hawk
Donkey Kong
Giygas
Alex Yiik
Geralt
Jacket
Alucard
Crash Bandicoot
Waluigi
Ellis
Little Mac
Metal Sonic
Conker
King K. Rool
M. Bison
Rildey
Ryu Hayabusa

>>250041
Also a tentative list for /co/. I'm probably missing a couple characters who don't have pages.
>>Mr.:
>Round 4
Doctor Livesey
>Round 3
Mojo Jojo
Shrek
Benson
Black Hat
Commissioner Gordon
Dan
Duck
Godzilla
Gromit
Jack Skellington
Lord Hater
Mung Daal
Scooby-Doo
The Monarch

>>Ms.:
>Round 4
Daphne Blake
Demencia
Gwenpool
Jessica Rabbit
Jinx
Kim Pine
Lola Bunny
Zatanna
Alice (Disney)
Creepy Susie
Coraline
Gaz
Gwen (Total Drama)
Gwen Tennyson
Hekapoo
Huntress Wizard
Jinx
Judy Hopps
Karen
Propane
Star Butterfly
Sticks the Badger
Tinker Bell
Ty Lee
>Round 3
Pacific Northwest
Wendy Corduroy
Anne Boonchuy
Ashi
Aunt Cass
Beatrice (OTGW)
Captain Amelia
Eda Clawthorne
Hello Nurse
Millie (Hazbin)
Mothra
Noodle
Peni Parker
Queen Vexus
Rapunzel
Sam (Totally Spies)
Sandy Cheeks
Tak
Tiff Crust
Vanessa Doofenshmirtz
Wonder Woman
ZONE-tan

>>249975
>Sticks the Badger stands out for doing well in side tournaments and then actually turning that into doing well on mains later, only real major case of that outside of maybe Max from Sam and Max.
I didn't even remember she had an E8 tag team run...good for her

Since when are we doing this rules lawyering thing when a character is only allowed to have a page if they made it to a certain round? Not that I'm clamoring for more articles about R1 jobbers but this feels like it came out of nowhere.

>>250047
it's not a "rule", more like a recommendation/guideline to not get spread too thin.

>>250041
>>250042
Pretty cool. I think as we said we'll stick to R4 unless someone wants to do R3 on their own.

>>250042
>Dan
>Doesn't have a page

>>250047
It's not about giving characters pages. I made the lists for anyone who wants to update the progress tables (which are inconsistent across tournaments). >>249927
>>250052
I know he has a page. It's the ones without pages who I probably missed.

>>250041
>Dedede
He got 5th place last year.

How will the current /co/ tourney be handled?

>>249949
>since each contest has its own navigation template with all contestants and their performance that year, so you can compare very easily
I assumed /co/ would have the same somehow but turns out they dont.
What the hell happened there? It's a huge helping tool.

>>250076
Ignored lol. Won't even be mentioned in the main Ms. '26 article.

We shouldn't acknowledge this shit on the wiki but the OC deserves to be archived somewhere. How about adding an "Extra OC" section to the main gallery of Ms 26 and just adding the handful of things that were drawn for the fake tourney there, without ever mentioning where it comes from?

>>250096
A general Bonus Gallery page already exists.

>>250096
>>250097
Why would the OC be archived if we're ignoring the event?

>>250096
>i but the OC deserves to be archived somewhere
Yes, the booru whatever it is called now for /co/ oc. Just upload it there and call it a day

>>250099
Why can't it be on the wiki?

>>250100
Why would non-tourney art be on the wiki?

>>250092
>>250095
This feels like another /cov/ 2026 situation.

>>250102
That’s an insult to /cov/

>>250109
That's my point

I noticed that the wiki’s date says September 4th as the launch date when it begins, is it accurate? Also balls showed up in the off season thread and said we’re ready for tournament season so I’m assuming it’s correct? Can anyone confirm this?

>>250076
more reason to disregard that /an/ tournament

>>250118
Yep, in the same thread:
>>249728

>>250125
Wuya stands out like a Cayman Islands Holding stamp. (Do you guys think every round was fully rigged, or it's more like "NSA rigged her to win the narrow match against Velma, then thanks to her bias in the OP and fueling the thread Wuya started to build some actual momentum and won the next couple matches legit, and then NSA rigged her and Eris when they both should have lost to Raven and Toph?")

>>250126
>>250125
If NSA ever for whatever reasons(maybe even a google bug) released the 2023 results and it turned out the actual votes were completely different than what she claimed (like Velma actually beat Wuya or something) would the wiki need to update to reflect the real results or.....

>>250127
We’d probably want to include both, but the wiki would still need to reflect what we thought happened as that’s what dictated the future rounds and what we believed. That said if we straight up had 100% proof beyond all doubt that Wuya lost in R2 or the semi finals I think we should go beyond * and just straight up disbar her as a winner and write the year off as no longer considered credible.

>>250125
Perhaps it'd be a good idea to group the progress tabled by seasons? (every 8 years) so it doesn't get hideous to look at?

>>249916
Now there is one

The Ms table is done up to the E8. It's just missing Round 4 but it is a mess to look who was where in /co/ tourneys somehow.
>>250135
It's already got 8 years so if anyone wants to take the idea of "seasons" in mind they can make a second table starting with 2026 if they want I guess.
Personally I don't mind it either way.

>>250487
That's a lot of one time qualifiers.

Why is the wiki calling the non-furry one "Ms. /aco/" if Dill said they'd both be called Playgirl and it would still be on /trash/?

And why isn't Rouge with the furries?

>>250592
Out-of-date, I guess. Calling both Playgirl is gonna be super confusing, I can tell.

Shego is missing her 2024 results in her own page

>>250592
People thought that was gonna happen, apparently those people just made it up. Whoops.

>>250660
Playgirl and Playgirl Furry Edition

>>250674
Not anymore.

>>250684
Very cool

>>250487
Why does Snowman have the wrong icon? I know it's supposed to be a joke but still.

>>250689
That was the icon already in use in the bracket and nominations list. Didn't even knew it was a joke. Don't know much about /co/ or homestuck.

>>250689
When the /co/ Fandom wiki was imported into Wikitide there was issues imported some of the images, and for whatever reason Wikitide changed them to already existing images on other wikis with the same or similar filename
Almost all were changed back but Snowman’s was kept because of the humor of the character in the tournament. Captain America’s current page image originated the same way and also was kept because it was funny

>>250487
Very nice.
>>250693
Is that why Scorpion's icon is literally just a scorpion?

>>250705
Funny you mention Scorpion, I changed his icon very recently while making the results table for Earthworn Jim.

We need templates for the Playgirl 2025 statistics. It's been left unfinished

>>250876
I thought they had to match the character. I'll change them later unless someone else fixes them before.

>>250887
Since they're indeed supposed to match the winner character, on second thought, some of your choices do fit better than the ones in the articles. Perhaps going the other way around and changing the article color schemes might be better. We'll see.

>>250900
Then I'll try to fill them all with the characters and then someone else can change the colors of the template or character.

https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Hatsune_Miku
>new template
Thoughts? I think the old table's better. Easier to read, too.

>>250944
Old one allows you to see same series easier

>>250929
Old is better.

the og

>>251281
>giving fake shit any attention
BigBoar...

>>251281
I've said this before, at most just make add some blurb to the actual Ms. /co/ article that goes something like
>2 weeks before the actual tournament started, someone hosted their own fake tournament.
Or something like that.

>>251290
This, though even that may be excessive.

>>251281
>>251290
This should get no blurb. It was a troll attempt (likely Sharty brigade) and is non significant
The wiki head should make a rule stating that intentional bad faith and/or troll attempts are not significant enough for the wiki or the lineage it is meant to cover. This also will remove all mention of /cov/ 26 and the tranny tournaments

>>251291
Yeah, it's just that if we must absolutely acknowledge it, there's no need to do anything more than that.
>>251292
That would still validate it, just in a different way, it shouldn't get a unique name at all.

>>251298
Mentioning it at all in any way validates it, and three whole IPs faking a tournament and just spamming Tntjax for a few days is not noteworthy

>>251281
No mention.

>>251297
no evidence cov was bad faith

>>251307
Still, is it really worth giving attention?

>>251307
Same with the trans tourneys and the /an/lympics.

>>251311
/an/ 26 is a little suspicious, but that's only in hindsight.

>>251311
/cov/ is the least sus of the three, Neo comes off more like an idiot than a troll.

>>251311
The trans tournament had the host at the end shitting on /tnt/ and then immediately creating a wiki page and saying it was canon and /tnt/ are trannies
And there is suspicion it was the same person who hosted fake Ms so yes it was a troll attempt

>>251309
I find the recent hard defense of /cov/ very suspicious.

>>251351
What just happened is so so so much worse

>>251290
Just ignore it, don't mention it on the wiki in any capacity.

>>251378
Oh fuck no. /cov/ I'm willing to reconsider, /an/ I'm willing to debate, but this fake Ms. /co/ is trolling and fuckery of the highest calibar

>>251301
>three whole IPs faking a tournament and just spamming Tntjax

One fixed IP (Edinburg) and one IP range (Austin) as far as I can tell.

>>251506
TexasAUTISTS...

Going off what Dill said
>There is no /aco/ tournament, it's all Trash
>There will be a Furry edition with 2022 as it's first base(so Rouge is the inaugural) and a standard edition only 2021 will be canon to (so Tyr'anhee will be the inaugural)
>Same goes for Playboy except both winners will be for the Furry edition (Death is the inaugural) and this years winner in the standard edition will be the inaugural for that
So some things are going to need to be adjusted (a lot of the changes done this year were seemingly going off thread hearsay and speculation rather than what Dill actually said)

>>251506
Clarification in case someone misunderstood it: Edinburg as in Edinburg, Texas. It was one person posting from both cities, hours apart, so clearly commuting.

>>251698
Honestly, that makes more sense than an American having the exact same posting habits as an Irishman. I have to wonder, though: maybe the Austin IP range is from a mobile carrier? Speaking as a Burger, that still seems like a pretty long commute between the two cities.

>>251699
To elaborate a bit, I'm envisioning a situation where You Know Who's cellular carrier is showing the IP range of the closest major metro area, rather than the exact location like a home ISP.

>>251699
Just checked, when he got banned he switched IPs within minutes, and then devices within the hour. So I'm probably wrong about commuting, it's more likely he is using a phone plan that online databases resolve to Austin. In fact some sites resolve it to San Antonio. Either of the two.
And yeah, the Austin/San Antonio location is on a mobile ISP. The Edinburg one is on a fixed residential IP, but at least one online database gives it a high risk for being used as a proxy. So he's either in Edinburg using a phone that resolves to Austin/San Antonio, or he is in Austin/San Antonio and occasionally posting from a proxy. Oh well.

>>251701
The multiple IPs and devices would also explain why he can spam 4chan in half minute intervals.

>>251701
That's what I thought, thanks for the clarification.

>>251701
Is 99% of bad acting and spam here caused by a handful of schizos?

>>251721
You are going to have to specify what you consider "bad acting", but keep in mind that ever since I banned that guy /tnt/ has been quite a bit slower.

>>251722
ragebaiting over and over or trying to force a bit

>iCuck randomly brings up /cov/ AND the Wiki in the same thread
Now I'm wondering if the /cov/ 26 article being so vitriolic is leading to a Streissand Effect
Granted, none of the content in said article is WRONG in any way

>>251752
When? How do you know it's iCuck?
>>251725
Sadly that's not limited to one guy. We now have anti Hankfag suddenly supporting Supergirl.

>>251379
>/an/ I'm willing to debate
what

>>251762
I don't like the generalizations for reasons like this. Bringing up /cov/ out of nowhere is sus as fuck but /an/ being on the wiki is a legitimate point of contention. Balls even thinks the hosts are one and the same.

Are we really giving the fake tournaments attention though?

>>251766
To be fair, I wouldn't have paid any mind to the wiki post had it not been right next to Well, two posts before the one about /cov/. It was really the proximity that made me wonder

>>251770
I'm going to chalk at least the wiki one to being coincidence. I'm actually more curious that this is the first time the real hosts have commented on the /an/ attempt.

/cov/ 26 having it's article purged was a mistake, it's caused a massive streisand effect and made people want to poke the wiki for fun. And in hindsight it was hardly the worst tournament this year let alone ever

>>251772
It wasn't even really purged, just delisted from the templates and front page, and given an over-the-top rewrite in the process.

Does anyone with a wiki account even have the right permissions for purging articles?

>>251772
I think someone just keeps wanting to obsessively bring it up. imo the wiki has overreached anyways. It doesn't need to include every event of every size and questionable nature so I'm fine with /cov/ not being listed. I'd rather /an/ also get scrubbed before /cov/ relisted.

>>251774
Only the admin has these permissions, afaik.

Should this be updated now that the list is done or wait untill Round 1 is over to update only those that leave then?

>>252155
>>252158
Work on the "excluded by series limit" and DNQ characters, then add the others as the rounds progress.

https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/File:Ssakurai.jpg
Cheesecake has a face template for use now, I just grabbed the one the thread provided. It'll need to be renamed though.

>>252174
Shame it's a .jpg, these scale horribly, as can be seen in this new template. We'll need a png, preferably 200x200.
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Template:Cheesecake

I think the pink one can stay for the small uses (solid white looks wrong for that), but we might need that second one elsewhere

>>252180
Will be pretty much invisible at tiny sizes. Rule of thumb when making these is that the character's head must take up most of the space.

I uploaded both of mine for now, if anyone will have any better ones, you can just update the existing files.

>>252195
That should work

>>252195
that's good

>Wiki undergoing maintenance
What a time to do so

You forgot the Pencil Anon piece for Round 1.

You forgot the Zatanna piece for Round 2.

You forgot THE CHEESE, GROMIT!

>>252305
It should've stayed down permanently.

this two OCs are missing from the round 3 gallery
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155397494/#155399935
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155397494/#155399877

>>252461
>>252462
>>252497
Added.

So how do we handle the wiki entry for Amalia? We all know she only got eyes on her and qualified because of the fake tourney. Should we avoid mentioning it as the reason so as not to give it attention?