/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

Circusfags do realize that having ONE episode shown in theaters isn't that unique, right? Primal's five episodes were shown in theaters as Tales of Savagery. SU had the TV movie in theaters, some showings with sing alongs. Even Hazbin had that broadway thing if that counts.

People are forgetting the potential wildcard that the finale sucks ass and kills the series chances

>>229708
The finale could just be live action footage of Gooseworx taking a shit and fans would still rave about it.

>>229706
Primal got a theatrical showing? Fuck, I would've loved to have seen that.

>>229706
The first episode of RWBY vol 4 had a theatrical release. Volumes 1-3 were shown in Japanese theaters.

Anime series mogs in terms of theatrical releases btw.

>>229737
Anime mogs cartoons in everything but /co/ will throw a fit if you tell them this.

>>229737
>Number of billion dollar grossing anime films: 0
>Oscars: 2 compared to the dozens for western animation
>Critical reception: Less than Fantasia and Snow White
>Number of tournaments: 0
How is anime mogging western theatrical again?

>>229741
I like cartoons more than anime, but the second and fourth points are unfair. The oscars are biased against animation in general, which is why it needs to be in its own category, but especially towards animation not from its home culture and award shows overall have been out of touch for years. People want anime tournaments, but the attempts have been disasterous from the people trying to do them not understanding how to do them.

>>229745
>but especially towards animation not from its home culture and award shows overall have been out of touch for years.
Miyazaki and a Latvian movie won the last couple of Oscars.

>>229741
Oscars and "critical reception" are irrelevant since anime has barely ever existed in the hollywood industry mind. The two oscars anime has won are both Miyazaki films, and that's because Miyazaki/Ghibli is so big they had to begrudgingly acknowledge it. Otherwise it's all "Chinese fuckin' things" to them lol.

>>229747
>I guarantee you, filler shounen movies are better than half of the shit nominated every year.
Flow blows anime out of the water and it's not even close.

>>229748
>begrudgingly
They suck off Miyazaki almost as much as Disney/Pixar.

>>229750
Sure, he's become honorary western lite in their eyes which is why he's allowed to win.

Can we please get another /co/ thread instead of this one.

>>229751
>honorary western lite is why he's allowed to win!!!
Or maybe he just a really good director. Why do anime fans insist on still playing the victim?

>>229752
Can we please get an /a/ tournament instead of a /co/ one.

What gets me more than the Oscars is the Annie Awards. Like if it's just a thing for western animation that's fine but they nominated that one Studio Trigger show one year so clearly there's not a ban on anime, they've literally just been snubbing it entirely for decades lmao.

>>229753
Too much slop gets nominated and wins for quality to be a meaningful factor now.

>>229755
It's studio Trigger. It really is a cut above any anime studio out there so I can see why it's recognized.

>>229756
Maybe people are tired of slop and want quality to matter now.

>>229745
>The oscars are biased against animation in general, which is why it needs to be in its own category
Reminder Beauty and the Beast was actually nominated for Best Picture in 1991. Animated features at one point had the potential to beat live-action at their own category but, as it has been said, the Oscars are incredibly biased against the medium.

Funny how Oscars don't matter now that K-Pop won an Oscar. So predictable.

>>229759
Based Oscars.

>>229757
meh it's overrated. Also the show in question was that shitty furry one.

>>229760
Oscars haven't mattered for 20+ years and counting. A Beautiful Mind is a mediocre biopic barely anyone remembers full of bullshit, and it won over The Fellowship of the Ring back in 2002.

>>229764
Genreslop deserves to lose every time. Plus Jennifer Connelly is hot.

>>229765
>Genreslop
Anon, you are in a forum dedicated to the discussion of tournaments about videogame and cartoon characters.

>>229766
Video games are legitimately higher art than fantasy movies.

>>229760
I've always trashed the Oscars. They were shit all teh way to to Citizen Kane getting knocked aside.

>any semblance of staying on topic has been completely abandoned and the thread is just dominated by /tv/ and /a/ discussion
It really feels like I'm back on /co/!

>>229767
If we're really gonna get into "high" arts dick measuring then /lit/ >>>

Alright, let's get back on-topic.
>>229708
This >>229725 is why I don't believe the fínale being bad will mitigate any of the 'hype' around Pomni and whoelse. Like, as it stands, I myself think the series is shitty, so I'm not expecting the final episode to be good or to find it "satisfactory" to what came before. It would have to be unbelievably shitty, polarizing, and above all pull off something that makes the characters unpalatable to its manchild fanbase for it to seriously hurt the series' chances.

>>229769
>>229771
>on topic
Being an inflammatory troll OP encouraging more bickering about Circusfaggotry.

>>229772
Teebeeaich I dunno what else are we supposed to talk about in respect to the upcoming /co/ tournaments.

>>229772
I genuinely see no way Pomni won't pull off another Fang.

>>229755
Because anime historically is not seen as better than western animation, including in Japan itself where Disney is idolized.
Like I know 4chan was created for anime and it is still the subversive nerd culture thing so people are going to be biased towards it, and there are plenty of good anime, but it is by and large not seen as better than western animation

>>229775
You got a point up to a certain time, but 2010’s onwards let’s be real. Western series animation at least is seen as generally ass.

>>229776
If you are only into children cartoons from 3 US cable networks then sure the quality is entirely ass post 2018
I cannot pretend that normalfags do not love 2010s-2020s adult animation series like Arcane, Bojack, Invincible, Smiling Friends, Primal, and yes even early R&M, regardless how you personally feel of them

>>229775
>>229777
I think that's bullshit. It's more been a matter of simply what's known or chosen to be known. There's no way a serious appraisal of animation wouldn't have a single Japanese production in the last several decades for best television or almost any category, while shit like Big Mouth, Harley Quinn, and zombie South Park would. The one exception with the Trigger show was for character design or some shit which I assume was cause it got sort of furry famous (BNA isn't even one of the better trigger shows).

>>229776
I'd say at least mid-2010s, there were still a few good shows left in the early 2010s. Early Regular Show and Adventure Time were great, they only went downhill when r*mance plots happened.

>>229778
I would honestly watch Big Mouth or Harley Quinn over the vast majority of anime out then; a lot of is genuinely trash or flash in the pan stuff that was quickly forgotten.

tbh I think anime might get snubbed by the western industry critics largely cause the sexual and otaku connotations of that industry give them the ick. Still I'm mildly surprised with how normie famous it's gotten that some huge and quality hit like Kimetsu no Yaiba didn't at least get an Annie nomination.

>>229780
I don't deny the majority is landfill, but there's at least a handful of standout productions a year. On sheer quantity Japan outdoes the west in worthwhile toons imo.

>>229780
>I would honestly watch Big Mouth or Harley Quinn over the vast majority of anime
This is what I would say if I too were a retarded, fat, balding Gen Xer.

>>229782
Standing by the shonen shit, isekai and moe garbage won't get your animation anymore mainstream respect.

>>229783
And I'm not a single one of those things.
Even /a/ is willing to call out their own industry.

>>229785
>And I'm not a single one of those things.
Well, you sure think exactly like one!

>>229784
>won't get your animation anymore mainstream respect
Which is why more and more American animated productions are openly advertised as "anime", even if they are not anime at all.

>>229784
Really demonstrating the stigma sort of described here
>>229781
Honestly it's better anime not go mainstream. It's become far too western mainstream as it is.

>>229787
We get it, you're still not over your parents calling anime jap crap.

>>229788
>marketers are retarded
We know.

>>229719
where's the thread bruh.

>>229789
>stigma
It's general Sturgeon's law. The western equivalent is zombie adult comedies still getting talked about more than Primal ever will.

>>229790
My mom collected Candy Candy as a kid and my dad watches all sorts of anime even now. I'm talking about yankees, who are where most of the anti-Japanese entertainment sentiments come from.

>>229793
I'm waiting until things gets calmer. It's way too angry right now.

>>229784
Moe is not inherently bad desu. Azumanga Daioh is an EEnE tier SoL.

>>229795
>yankees
What country are you from that you think yankees is a relevant insult?

>>229797
I would much rather watch every now anime than EEnE.

>>229798
Would you rather I call you guys burgers.

>>229800
I wouldn't be thinking about the baseball team, I'll tell you that much.

>>229800
unironically all my friends do call me a burger LOL

All of this could have been avoided if we just let anime compete in the /co/ tournaments btw.

>>229804
PopeyeKEKS…

>it's a turdies are seething over americans rerun
A timeless classic.

>KPDH made a historic Oscar win and is beloved all over
>Manhwa and webtoons are outselling even manga
>Crimson Desert managed to have a big impact on the gaming scene
Yup yup yup, feels good to be a Korean HANAMIN.

Is Hazel from the new FOP show going to make Ms /co/ because of Hazelschizo being covered by the mainstream?

>>229809
QRD?

>>229808
Despite this, not a single Korean cartoon or webtoon will ever qualify for Mr. or Ms. /co/
>bu-
No, KPop Demon Hunters isn't qualifying either, they jobbed catastrophically last year and that was at the height of their popularity

>>229813
Can actual Korean cartoons and comics even qualify for the /co/ tournaments? Like if I tried Cubix would that make it in theoretically or would it get barred?

>>229814
AFAIK literally anything that's not Japanese is fair game, this goes for both /co/ and the tournaments
Koreans animate basically every western animated cartoon series today anyways so it makes sense when you think about it

>>229816
>AFAIK literally anything that's not Japanese is fair game
That's never been how the rule went; most of Asia is off the table, not just Japan. Nezha got barred last year so it's safe to say that Korean comics and animation isn't allowed.
>Koreans animate basically every western animated cartoon series today anyways so it makes sense when you think about it
By this logic, anime would be allowed since the Japanese animated stuff like Transformers in the 80s.

>>229749
Flow? Short for "Menstrual flow", because only a vagina can get so worked up over such a nothing movie for "le kitty cat" and "le post apocalypse, but with hecking animals and nature!"
BTW I prefer cartoons to anime