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No.131568
Ms. and Mr. /co/ Off-Season Discussion Thread #11Anonymous
Replies:>>131575>>131580
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Tools edition
No.131571
Anonymous
Replies:>>131572
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comic win in the main tournament when?
No.131572
Anonymous
>>131571
Three more years.
No.131575
Anonymous
>>131568
Finally, a good OP image for the /co/ thread
No.131576
Anonymous
Fang was a bad winner.
No.131579
Anonymous
Fang was a great winner
No.131580
Anonymous
>>131568
MURDER SISSIES WTF IS THIS
No.131588
Anonymous
Fang was a shit winner
No.131592
Anonymous
Fang was a winner
No.131593
Anonymous
Mr. Incredible is a shit E8
No.131596
Anonymous
Replies:>>131598
Fang* wasn't a winner
No.131598
Anonymous
>>131596
/v/ btfo
No.131599
Anonymous
Replies:>>131611
>Murder Drones OP
>genuine discussion
>Fang OP
>low effort meme spam
so what have we learned here today?
No.131611
Anonymous
Replies:>>131616
>>131599
That Nfag will sabotage a thread if he can't be OP.
No.131616
Anonymous
>>131611
Anti-Fangbros... Our response?
No.131617
Anonymous
>One Guy is also Nfag
No.131620
Anonymous
Replies:>>131623>>131624>>131653
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As one of my favorite characters growing up, I still like Wuya as a winner, I just don't like the circumstances of her win and that's something she will have to carry with her forever.
No.131623
Anonymous
>>131620
Definitely better than Fang.
No.131624
Anonymous
>>131620
Wuyafags should be grateful that she wasn’t pushed to win to fulfill a meta criteria unlike Mr. Incredible.
No.131625
Anonymous
Nfag?
You mean Niggerfag
No.131627
Anonymous
>Nfag
>faNg
>Fang
No.131628
Anonymous
Replies:>>131634
>Fangfags are larping as the Nfag just to make Murder Drones fans look even worse
No.131629
Anonymous
Replies:>>131630
N and Mr. Incredible should fuck
No.131630
Anonymous
>>131629
more like N should fuck Incredible's wife
No.131632
Anonymous
More like I should fuck N
No.131634
Anonymous
>>131628
So that's what MD fags mean when they keep calling out "dinofag."
No.131636
Anonymous
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>cuckoldry shit
No.131653
Anonymous
Replies:>>131663>>131690
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>>131620
As someone who rooted for Eris I've gone through all the stages of grief since NSA's downfall:

>denial she and Wuya might have been manipulated into the finals
>anger about the porno trick that NSA pulled off
>bargaining/coping ("her campaign was so strong she may not have even needed NSA's help at all")
>sadness that she'll also have to deal with the 'host favorite' reputation
>acceptance of the chaos and eagerly waiting for 2025
No.131663
Anonymous
>>131653
2023 really wasn't kind to second places
No.131689
Anonymous
I’d fuck fang desu
No.131690
Anonymous
Replies:>>131746
>>131653
>chaos
Eris gets to come back, this works for her. She's also one of the few characters whos vibes roll with it.

Wuya is the one tarnished, and Raven and Toph are the ones screwed over. (Not that this is Raven's first time).
No.131696
Anonymous
Replies:>>131697
The Lawnmower Man - Nostalgia Criticyoutube thumb
3:57
No.131697
Anonymous
>>131696
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
No.131704
Anonymous
Replies:>>131705
fang is ugly desu
No.131705
Anonymous
Replies:>>131706>>131707
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>>131704
t. Alphoomer
No.131706
Anonymous
>>131705
>t. seething soilennial
No.131707
Anonymous
>>131705
>still posting it
No.131713
Anonymous
Replies:>>131714>>131716
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/143975470
No.131714
Anonymous
>>131713
>Immediate post seething over Mr incredible
No.131716
Anonymous
Replies:>>131722>>131731>>131733
>>131713
Why do threads related to tournaments, whether deliberately or not instantly go to shit when they're linked here
No.131722
Anonymous
>>131716
Shitposters must funpost
No.131724
Anonymous
Replies:>>131792
Uh, this one is the stealth thread
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/143974159
No.131727
Anonymous
Replies:>>131734>>131741>>131742
you know if it was any other character i'd tell the omni-man rper to piss off already, but i respect his commitment to the pomni-man bit. i never paid much attention to him in previous years so i'm curious as to how he'll play it.
No.131731
Anonymous
Replies:>>131738
>>131716
I wish people would stop linking threads here, there's no point in stealth threads if it's just the same faggots from /tnt/ sperging about the same shit they do here
No.131733
Anonymous
>>131716
I'm pretty sure most or all off-season threads are made by someone here.
No.131734
Anonymous
Replies:>>131739>>131741
>>131727
I don't mind Omni-Man being one of /co/'s comic relief characters.
No.131738
Anonymous
>>131731
nooooo but i need my /v/ friends to brigade and start spammy sharty dbz memes and doomposting with me
No.131739
Anonymous
Replies:>>131741
>>131734
Honestly? Same here. He's fucked by being both a comic character and having serious recency bias, so if anything carving out a different niche might have been the best route for him. I'm not confident that a near completely serious Omni-Man campaign would actually do that well.
No.131741
Anonymous
>>131727
>>131734
>>131739
It's not like he had anything to lose considering he's THE poster boy of "FOTM jobbers" right down to being the namesake of the phenomenon.
No.131742
Anonymous
>>131727
I think they'll pull it off well.
No.131743
Anonymous
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*blink*
No.131746
Anonymous
>>131690
Part of me is thankful Eris didn't win so she didn't have to face all the scorn that went to Wuya; and even after NSA's bullshit, she has such a broad popularity (no pun intended) that she'll always be in the running.
No.131747
Anonymous
Replies:>>131750
>/tnt/ are inbred creatures. They are like the board equivalent of the hill people from The Hills Have Eyes.
Is this true?
No.131750
Anonymous
>>131747
‘Fraid so.
No.131754
Anonymous
Replies:>>131755>>131761
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It's gonna be alright bros. KINO is now in the house
No.131755
Anonymous
Replies:>>131757
>>131754
I actually like that episode.
No.131757
Anonymous
>>131755
It's pretty fun, reminds me of Road to Rhode island
No.131761
Anonymous
>>131754
Get well soon!
No.131765
Anonymous
Replies:>>131766>>131769
Why are so many retards getting worked up over Jucika
No.131766
Anonymous
>>131765
You are experiencing first-hand why Ms. /co/ is so cancerous.
No.131769
Anonymous
Replies:>>131775
>>131765
To be fair at least one of the Jucikafags has been acting really retarded. Maybe a troll.
No.131770
Anonymous
Replies:>>131772
One of the core Jucikafags is Augie, fyi.
No.131772
Anonymous
>>131770
Augie just attaches himself to anything eastern bloc /co/, it's just a facade.
No.131775
Anonymous
Replies:>>131776
>>131769
Sure thing antiJucikabro
No.131776
Anonymous
Replies:>>131779
>>131775
Okay "Jucika is just like Primal" tard
No.131779
Anonymous
Replies:>>131780
>>131776
Jucika and Fang have about the same amount of basic character traits. There is nothing wrong with pointing this out.
No.131780
Anonymous
Replies:>>131782
>>131779
It was more about the comic strip vs. the series. Even comparing Samurai Jack at one point.
No.131782
Anonymous
>>131780
I know what it was about, and I was only ever talking about the characterization. Maybe you misunderstood me.
No.131783
Anonymous
Replies:>>131787
I have a schizo theory about the Mr Incredible fag. What if it's all subtle 4d chess to make people so annoyed with ritual posting they vote Mr Incredible back into E8 this year, rendering his main complaint moot? While in actuality he's a Mr. Incredible supporter...
No.131787
Anonymous
>>131783
This would only prove his argument correct because Mr Incredible would be voted back in because of more metafagging instead of for convetional reasons.
No.131792
Anonymous
Replies:>>131821
>>131724
>What do you mean little to no actual /a/ representation?
I assume what he means is that it's quite literally not /a/ in any way whatsoever. The side tournaments for /co/ and /v/ still have posters that are from those boards; this /a/ side tournament, while I'm sure some people also browse /a/, can't be said to be participated by /a/ posters.
No.131793
Anonymous
Replies:>>131797
Why was Captain Amerigged getting worked up over Dastardly Duo?
No.131797
Anonymous
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>>131793
It's natural to be jealous of our greatness!
No.131821
Anonymous
Replies:>>131839
>>131792
Curious to stealthily run by the results on /a/ when it's done.
No.131826
Anonymous
Replies:>>131827>>131828
So, pastebin?
No.131827
Anonymous
>>131826
The real pastebin was the friends we made along the way
No.131828
Anonymous
>>131826
NSA's COPEbin never existed.
No.131839
Anonymous
Replies:>>131842
>>131821
That would be fucking stupid, even more then doing it for Co-op or Tag-Team.
No.131842
Anonymous
Replies:>>131861
>>131839
Huh? Why is doing that stupid?
No.131861
Anonymous
>>131842
Already, doing it for those two is dumb because it being offboard, though /v/ is filled with off-topic shit anyway so it doesn't really matter there and plus4chan basically is just /co/ so I guess it's okay.
/a/ won't know this is happening nor would they care, coming in and saying "Here are the real HEROES of /a/! :D" when it has nothing to do with /a/ is stupid. Plus, good luck on getting your "stealth" thread to not get deleted.
No.131872
Anonymous
Replies:>>131875>>131876
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WHERE'S NIGHTSHIFT ANON?!
No.131875
Anonymous
>>131872
Either in the same Asylum room as NN, being molested by Cheesecake, being tortured by Serbian Nationalists, or hiding in the same sticky corner as every other coomer
No.131876
Anonymous
Replies:>>131877
>>131872
getting married to me
No.131877
Anonymous
>>131876
>t. Tumblr Sexyman
No.131879
Anonymous
Replies:>>131880>>131881>>131882>>131885>>131886>>131890>>131892>>131896>>131946
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Who do you all legitimately think will take this years Ms. /co/ title?
>IT'S MY MAIN
Lets say your main lost, who would you bet your money on to win? This is a post on good-faith and a lot of assumption.

My main candidates for taking this years crown, will most likely boil down to these three: Chel, Queen Tyr'ahnee and Jessica Rabbit.
No.131880
Anonymous
Replies:>>131883
>>131879
Ms. /co/ is the most volatile and hardest to predict tournament. by predicting someone will win it basically cancels the likelihood. There is no obvious stomp candidate like Fang now either. The safest prediction would probably be an inconspicuous mid-tier girl that no one or very few have predicted yet.
No.131881
Anonymous
>>131879
Watch it be Kim Possible
No.131882
Anonymous
>>131879
Legs
No.131883
Anonymous
>>131880
>tfw my main is an inconspicuous mid-tier girl that no one or very few have predicted yet
No.131885
Anonymous
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>>131879
>Lets say your main lost
No.131886
Anonymous
Replies:>>131887>>131895>>132033
>>131879
It's unironically going to be Peridot
The new hosts have not shown on any side tournament they have the ability or care to remove rigged votes, and might be pressured not to do so, so this is going to be a contest of who can fit in the most votes in 24 hours
No.131887
Anonymous
Replies:>>131888>>131901
>>131886
>this is going to be a contest of who can fit in the most votes in 24 hours
so, like every other tournament?
No.131888
Anonymous
Replies:>>131889
>>131887
Yeah but this one is different. The new hosts are literally the worst.
No.131889
Anonymous
>>131888
NSA btw
No.131890
Anonymous
>>131879
I think Tyr'ahnee has a good shot at breaking the runner-up curse
No.131892
Anonymous
>>131879
It’ll probably be Ty’rahnee.
No.131895
Anonymous
>>131886
Peridot would be so cataclysmically stupid that it'd end up being kindof funny
No.131896
Anonymous
Replies:>>132111
>>131879
>Chel, Jessica Rabbit
They're too quiet to win. At this point you gotta have some kind of vocal push to win in the final push, otherwise they'll get trashed as silent or boring or whatever. Same with Frankie. They have the major potential but not enough fandom.
No.131901
Anonymous
Replies:>>131902>>132033
>>131887
Not from one person or group, no. For the majors that's supposed to be very obvious and removable. During the NSA era that was removed (though arguably with bias on who she ignored) but recent tournaments the most obvious rig jobs were allowed to go by with no takedown of votes and that's concerning.
If NSA didn't remove qualifier votes last year Peridot would have easily been #1 qualified. That fucker is so autistic he would engage in this 24/7 and pay actual money to rig this thing and if action isn't being taken like hosts haven't been then she's your winner.
No.131902
Anonymous
Replies:>>131930
>>131901
What obvious rig jobs in recent tournaments? Bee's and shit in /an/? Clinton isn't working on the main tourneys.
No.131905
Anonymous
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Can’t wait to vote for STACYroid 18 in this year’s Ms /co/!
No.131906
Anonymous
Replies:>>131945>>131949
Who are some consistent fringe candidates that you'd like to see last a round or two?

Not win, not even E8, but something akin to Tiff Crust's run from last year(character with loyal fans and a strong presence in qualifiers who hadn't managed to break through)
No.131930
Anonymous
Replies:>>131938
>>131902
Bees weren't even rigged, They were the top seed and even then they had a bit of trouble with some of their matchups.
No.131938
Anonymous
>>131930
Also the underage retard who started the rigging """drama""" just said "haha i was behind the results of every match i am le epic rigger xdddd", it didn't have anything to do with Bumblebee specifically
If there's anything that can be learned from it, it's not to give attention to faggots claiming they totally rigged all the matches, though that should go without saying
No.131945
Anonymous
>>131906
Emmet Brickowski would be nice to see in the bracket again
Also pretty much any Moomin character, I really hope Snufkin and/or Moomintroll can make it even if I know Tag-Team performances rarely have an impact elsewhere
No.131946
Anonymous
Replies:>>131947>>131948>>132111
>>131879
>Chel, Queen Tyr'ahnee and Jessica Rabbit
Of those three, I see Jessica being most likely if she gets any support at all. There's general resistance to characters seen as "powerhouses" and Jessica is probably considered the least powerhouse of the three, regardless of her actual popularity. It's the perception that counts.

Sometimes a character builds up a rabid enough support base to do well the next time they compete (Tyr'ahnee, Fang, Eris), but I don't see anyone in particular this year that people are obviously rallying around. Odds are it will be some character from seeds 20-50. That's the sweet spot for both flying under the radar and actually having enough raw popularity to win anything. My best guess is a character that just missed the E8 last year, most likely Tinker Bell. She has some popularity, some meta stuff going for her (ousted by a NSA pick), and probably wouldn't be targeted as a threat early on.
No.131947
Anonymous
>>131946
>here's general resistance to characters seen as "powerhouses"
I feel like that mentality peaked with 2021 and has been gradually dying down since, I don't remember Toph and Raven getting that last year if nothing else besides the "powerhouse vs underdog" thing with Toph/Raven vs Wuya/Eris. Jessica tends to get at least some support already so with a good push I could see her making it far
I agree on Tinker Bell though, she already has a consistent fanbase on /co/ in general so I think she has what it takes to have a successful run. It's either her or Alice that I see being the big Disney reps this year
No.131948
Anonymous
>>131946
I think the "anti-powerhouse" era has died now that people look at results more closely, and the last time this argument was brought up people were tricked by it into supporting NSA's two candidates being the finalists
No.131949
Anonymous
>>131906
Legs
No.131951
Anonymous
Replies:>>131956>>131967>>131976>>132003
So...what's gonna become of Shirley? She had a pretty good campaign, but some fuck was rigging for all the animal reps, which got rid of a lot of trust. But now that that's been taken care of...
No.131956
Anonymous
Replies:>>131967
>>131951
It's pretty agreed upon these days none of the ""furriggers"" were actually rigged (at least not more than any other character) and it was mostly just NSA being a massive faggot and/or spiting them for some reason, but the thing is Shirley is the only character among them that is still thought to actually HAVE been rigged (at least that's the sentiment I'm seeing), so I still think her chances aren't great even if her campaigners come back. And for the record she did have a really fun campaign, it's just a shame about the circumstances
The Fall of NSA probably did put Shirley in a better position than she previously was, before she was basically doomed to never qualify again whereas now I think she at least has a chance. Though if she does make it in I really don't see her making it past round 1
No.131959
Anonymous
Replies:>>131961
>Totally Spies is the biggest show talked about right now with a new season
>Clover and Alex cucked themselves from having any boost from the new show by blowing their load early getting E8 last year and being barred from entry
Never get over how funny this is
No.131961
Anonymous
Replies:>>131962>>131974
>>131959
Sam has a chance now at least.
No.131962
Anonymous
Replies:>>131965>>131966
>>131961
finally worst girl will win
No.131965
Anonymous
>>131962
Fuck you.
No.131966
Anonymous
>>131962
Alex isn’t winning this year
No.131967
Anonymous
Replies:>>131968>>131969>>131998
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>>131951
>>131956
I mean, I do find the logic that NSA may have tried to screw the other girls on purpose in her first time hosting. I also hope Shirley's campaign can come back to redeem her regardless of whose fault was that. The only thing we won't be able to change is the fact the general thread consesus is that she had a foul play in her run. If that's so, then please keep the other girls out of that drama. It depresses me the idea that Shirley possibly had a good run but the host intentionally screwed her forever just like she's tainted Eris and Wuya now. I can do some posting myself but I'm not great either greentexting
No.131968
Anonymous
Replies:>>131969
>>131967
Forgot to add, I would be satisfied if Shirley just has some support in qualifiers or round 1 and loses in either of them.
No.131969
Anonymous
Replies:>>131971
>>131967
>>131968
She really is a round 1 or 2 exit.
Not to say she has no redeeming qualities, but it is way too fucked up to think a character not even couragefags seem to remember, makes it to the E8, let alone the FINALS. She legitimately doesn’t have the fame nor is an icon to really be considered even sweet 16 material.
No.131971
Anonymous
>>131969
Agreed. Like I wouldn't mind if she loses early. Sadly she was known but mostly when people wanted to pair her with Courage. Besides that,I like that now with the revelation about NSA I can look back at the OC she produced with a fresh mindset
No.131974
Anonymous
>>131961
Jerry*
No.131976
Anonymous
Replies:>>131980>>131987>>131991>>131994
>>131951
She's gonna be SHIT and FINISHED like all the other rigged characters that year. Here's a reminder just in case you forgot. Remember these names so we can spitevote them into oblivion and to dunk on the riggers.
>Shirley*
>Nicole*
>Brisby*
>Judy*
>Tigress*
>Karen*
No.131980
Anonymous
Replies:>>132004
>>131976
NSAsister btw
No.131987
Anonymous
Replies:>>132004
>>131976
I had forgotten, I need to vote and support all of them. Thank you.
No.131989
Anonymous
Replies:>>131992
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I TOLD YOU. I FUCKING TOLD YOU!
No.131990
Anonymous
Replies:>>131992
In the end the decepticons were right and we all laughed at them
No.131991
Anonymous
Replies:>>132004
>>131976
We?
No.131992
Anonymous
Replies:>>132007
>>131989
>>131990
Megatron lost
No.131994
Anonymous
Replies:>>132004
>>131976
These characters are greaf, I'll make sure to vote for all of them!
No.131998
Anonymous
Replies:>>132009
>>131967
>first time hosting
I think I saw you post this misconception in the stealth thread too, the first time NSA hosted was Mr. /co/ 2021.
No.132003
Anonymous
>>131951
You can see here how there's still Shirley apologists, so that group has a vested interest in still promoting her in this tournament.
The 2022 run made it so everyone in tournaments knows who she is, and unless it's universally despised (like CA) then they have a hard time not competing. And Shirley is mostly but not entirely.
So my guess is she's too known and will make the bracket, but lose immediately unless she's seeded against a real shitter due to being clear how fucked that run was. And she'll either be round 1 fodder for life or more likely eventually slip out of the bracket as the years go by and never qualify again. I personally think she makes it this year, loses round 1 bad and never is seen again in the bracket.
No.132004
Anonymous
>>131980
>>131987
>>131991
>>131994
The furriggers are getting mad lol. Continue your seething. We all know you're gonna get BTFO again just like last year.
No.132006
Anonymous
Replies:>>132019
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No.132007
Anonymous
>>131992
at least he's no criminal
No.132009
Anonymous
Replies:>>132011>>132013>>132037
>>131998
I think he meant with her fully taking in charge. Back then we had stats
No.132011
Anonymous
>>132009
And also the only one who knew about her actions was Ghost anon. Aka Dominos.
No.132013
Anonymous
Replies:>>132037
>>132009
In Mr. /co/ 2021? No we didn't, remember stats exclusively solo hosted up until he disappeared without a trace during the Ms. /co/ 2021 afterparty
No.132016
Anonymous
Replies:>>132017>>132018>>132035>>132059
>Murder Drones got their own Plus4chan board
Were they /tnt/‘s series all along?
No.132017
Anonymous
>>132016
Maybe it means they can fuck off from here though.
No.132018
Anonymous
>>132016
What's the backstory behind that, were they having issues with the jannies on /co/ or something
No.132019
Anonymous
>>132006
Kek
No.132021
Anonymous
Replies:>>132024
I don't know what MDfags are thinking by trying to follow Battler's footsteps in being a punching bag that will suddenly get a boost out of it. Look at what happened with King Boo and Icon
No.132024
Anonymous
>>132021
Only ginger characters can accurately follow in battler's footsteps.
No.132033
Spideranon !!hAaBXjbZBz7
>>131886
>The new hosts have not shown on any side tournament they have the ability or care to remove rigged votes
Not shown, because it was not done in public or talked about in public. That and other talk was done privately.
>>131901
>recent tournaments the most obvious rig jobs were allowed to go by with no takedown of votes and that's concerning.
To not go in any particular detail, no, it happened. Although I cannot speak about /an/'s since I have no particular contact with Clinton.
No.132035
Anonymous
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>>132016
campooner series
campooner board
do the math
No.132037
Anonymous
Replies:>>132042
>>132009
>>132013
Newfags are slowly revising tourney history...
No.132038
Anonymous
Replies:>>132044>>132045
People really want to be contrarian to all things NSA, but just saying, Ms. 2022 did have some weird outlier performances from characters who normally don't perform nearly as well.

Aside from Shirley, the outlier performances I remember were Creepy Susie, Judy, and Tigress, all of whom are normally Round 1-2 jobbers.
No.132042
Anonymous
>>132037
Old fart...
No.132044
Anonymous
Replies:>>132055
Image:171814314578.png(538kB, 1280x979)Msco22_oc_83.png
>>132038
Creepy Susie in particular was long overdue for a deeper run, the fact she had failed to go past round 1 until then was in of itself a gag. Most of her 2022 opponents weren't much to write home about, so yeah, I think it makes sense she went as far as she did.

What definitely DOESN'T make sense is her failure to qualify the subsequent year, after five tournaments of perfect attendance and her best result yet, to boot.
No.132045
Anonymous
Replies:>>132055
>>132038
This. We all know characters' performance can't ever change during tournaments. Must be the work of riggers. Jobbers should stay jobbers forever. Nevermind the fact that people just like those characters and definitely nevermind the fact that Judy got to 3 rounds literally the year before that even without a very active campaigner. The fact they did well was mind-boggling. I hate riggers so much.
No.132047
Anonymous
Replies:>>132052>>132057
Reminder that if you use asterisks on anyone then you’re are going against the wishes of Stats himself
No.132052
Anonymous
Replies:>>132054
>>132047
What if I use Asterix on anyone?
No.132054
Anonymous
Image:171815090699.png(33kB, 417x400)Spoiler image
>>132052
No.132055
Anonymous
Replies:>>132056>>132079
>>132044
>>132045
Logically, since Susie's "performance" in 2023 is much closer to her other showings, then her performance in 2022 is the clear outlier and is what should be questioned. Same for other characters. You can hate on NSA all you want but you can't say there's no logic in what I'm pointing out.
No.132056
Anonymous
>>132055
I was agreeing with you. NSA was right and this was all the work of riggers.
No.132057
Anonymous
>>132047
Everyone gets an asterisk, it's all rigged anyway
No.132059
Anonymous
Replies:>>132068
Image:171815796899.jpg(99kB, 1083x611)1705789667438972.jpg
>>132016
Well uh, at least I'm personally content with what we've had for /co/ so far
No.132067
Anonymous
Replies:>>132069
Image:171816348422.jpg(5kB, 250x121)jrking finner.jpg
>Did you hear that, JR? It looks like Ms. /co/ 2023's qualifiers was legit despite NSA pulling the strings from the shadows in favor of her favorites!
>I heard it right, King. My god, I've never heard biggest bullshit from anon since Vince with the whole Montreal Screwjob
>*wheezes*
No.132068
Anonymous
Replies:>>132070
>>132059
i don't want to imagine what a /dbs/ board would be like
No.132069
Anonymous
>>132067
Based.
No.132070
Anonymous
>>132068
It’d be dead as fuck due to being on plus4, no one’s gonna want to use it unless it’s on the main site.
No.132079
Anonymous
Replies:>>132198
>>132055
Suddenly dropping out of the top 128 after being a consistent middle seed for years is the outlier performance. It would be one thing if the character had been gradually losing presence in the tournaments, but it makes even less sense that it happened right after her best year.
Also, the alternative to this is implying Susie actually was being rigged in 2022 but NSA obfuscated this fact for whatever reason.
No.132084
Anonymous
Replies:>>132090
Don't forget Goo also got suspiciously high seed.
No.132087
Anonymous
Replies:>>132089
>Email verification turned on once
>Suddnely very obscure character with little vocal support who qualified every tournament suddenly doesn’t
Hmmmm
No.132089
Anonymous
>>132087
Email verification was only active during the round matches, qualifiers didn't have it.
No.132090
Anonymous
Replies:>>132094
>>132084
NSA's favorite
No.132093
Anonymous
Replies:>>132100
>primal season 3 may be revealed tomorrow

We may get a look at Ms /co/ 2025 lads
No.132094
Anonymous
Replies:>>132095>>132098
>>132090
How come she didn't win then?
No.132095
Anonymous
Replies:>>138924
>>132094
Because NSA planned her other favorite to win obviously. Though realistically it's because it would be significantly easier for NSA to tamper with the qualifiers, which we have proof of NSA having done in the past through various means, than it would be to tamper with the rounds themselves without attracting suspicion from the other hosts. Thus NSA was able to rig Goo in but not able to rig her to win an actual round, especially when she got BTFO that hard against Alex
Also I remember one schizo theory I saw was that NSA swapped Creepy Susie's seed (or maybe it was Nia's seed I forgot) with Goo's, so one of them got cucked out of the bracket just so NSA could force in Goo. I'm not sure if there's even anything to base that claim off but it would be funny if true
No.132098
Anonymous
>>132094
Because Goo winning the tournament would've raised a bigger bullshit flag than Spinel. It was noteworthy enough she qualified, though having her in the top 30 seeds was pushing it.
No.132100
Anonymous
>>132093
Her name? Fangigger
No.132102
Anonymous
Replies:>>132105>>132120
Image:171822152030.jpg(110kB, 900x900)5442CE31-E26F-40AF-9738-1FB9719BD354.jpeg
here's your indie winner bros
No.132105
Anonymous
>>132102
That's not Hank J. Wimbleton!
No.132111
Anonymous
Replies:>>135244
Image:171822598331.jpg(51kB, 564x829)a558fb7cccb412447f8d49a9a3ddf4a6.jpg
>>131896
>>131946
I am planning on doing a campaign for Jessica Rabbit this year. It really is high time the uncrowned Ms. /co/ takes her proper title.
No.132120
Anonymous
>>132102
Shouldn’t win, but I’d be fine with an elite run.
No.132198
Anonymous
Replies:>>132199
Image:171826897823.png(74kB, 852x582)csp.png
>>132079
>Suddenly dropping out of the top 128 after being a consistent middle seed for years is the outlier performance.
I mean, if you look at pic related it's pretty clear what's the outlier performance here.
The thing is, even if Shirley was the only rigged character, that still means any number of other characters could have inadvertently benefitted from this simply because of the rigger happening to vote for them enough times.
> NSA obfuscated this fact for whatever reason.
Could be that she didn't notice/didn't care.
No.132199
Anonymous
>>132198
>The thing is, even if Shirley was the only rigged character, that still means any number of other characters could have inadvertently benefitted from this simply because of the rigger happening to vote for them enough times.
At that point, all the matches in the tournament can be argued to have been rigged. This is still ignoring the incrongruity of a perfect attendance qualifier dropping out without warning, which is more surprising than beating Francine Smith first round.
>Could be that she didn't notice/didn't care.
It's not so much the character couldn't possibly have been rigged, but as to what reason would NSA have to ignore it in particular. NSA didn't show bias towards the character and, as has been pointed out, among the furriggers she even made request OC for Shirley before the infamous 2022 rigging reveal.
No.132213
Anonymous
I'm always neutral on this speculation especially knowing what NSA herself has done but the only character I agree her results were still fishy is Shirley. The others just didn't deserve to be grouped with her if NSA lied about Nicole being actually rigged
No.132274
Anonymous
Fang is hot desu, I wish we saw more of her cloaca.
No.132276
Anonymous
Replies:>>132277>>132394>>132708
Fang is ugly desu, I wish we saw less of her in the tournaments.
No.132277
Anonymous
>>132276
I love snoot game and fang should be queen
No.132394
Anonymous
Replies:>>132443
Image:171840693589.jpg(585kB, 2152x1712)46431B93-87AC-4AD8-BA1E-4EF6D5FE288C.jpeg
>>132276
Fang is hot an there is absolutely nothing you can do about it
No.132443
Anonymous
>>132394
That's a dinosaur with absolutely no sex appeal.
No.132678
Anonymous
Replies:>>133098
https://poal.me/r7k2oz
No.132708
Anonymous
Image:171842143997.jpg(521kB, 629x1100)B76AD95F-DE9C-4883-B6C3-B4009B592134.jpeg
>>132276
t.
No.133098
Anonymous
Replies:>>133114
>>132678
>3-1
Fangsissies... We got too cocky...
No.133114
Anonymous
>>133098
Did you actually, unironically, make that and expect any other result? Of course no one else here finds the dinosaur sexy, I know that.

t. Fangfucker
No.133191
Anonymous
Image:171850343771.png(68kB, 230x217)Gluzoka Devochka.png
I'm pairing Noodle up with her
No.134900
Anonymous
Might actually try a serious campaign for Mr. Boss coming off Season 2. Would be nice to see him get some sort of redemption instead of just being known for being cucked out of a slot in 2022.
No.135244
Anonymous
Replies:>>135252>>135738>>136179
Image:171872058901.png(262kB, 512x512)523731213.png
>>132111
I legitimately pray that she's the Ms. /co/ this year. It would legitimately make the tournament have a massive comeback because we will finally have a winner that's hot, has character and personality, has some serious legacy behind it and most important of all: Being Board Relevant.
Jessica Rabbit Why Don't You Do Right HDyoutube thumb
No.135252
Anonymous
Replies:>>135272>>135343
>>135244
I mean, it'd be cool if she won, but she's got no presence, and had very little attention before. If there would be some consistent campaigners she could win. I was thinking of finally giving Chel some support too.
No.135272
Anonymous
>>135252
Someone’s planning on giving her a major campaign this year apparently
No.135281
Anonymous
Replies:>>135338>>136596
I want to campaign for the nostalgia critic.
No.135338
Anonymous
>>135281
Since we're doing /a/ right now you could try to push for us to do /tv/ and then you'd have your chance.
No.135343
Anonymous
Replies:>>135454
>>135252
She's not my favorite to outright win, but if she's not running interference with my few mains I'm likely just going to keep voting her up the first four rounds. She's a jarring omission from Elite Eight at this point.
No.135454
Anonymous
Replies:>>135575
Image:171875278190.jpg(37kB, 720x623)1713409070651889.jpg
>>135343
>She's a jarring omission from Elite Eight at this point.
Her two chances at making E8 was snuffed out by Peridot in 2019 and Hilda in 2021. She went against the two pen-ultimate poster childs of those years shitstorms.

Even more jarring fact to know is that out of the 15 total opponents she has faced, 9 have strong E8 placements under their name. Shirley and Johanna placing 2nd place with Kim Possible, Hilda and Frankie placing 3rd. I really think that Jessica is cursed as fuck.
No.135575
Anonymous
>>135454
She's the designated power jobber alongside Dominator. There always has to be a few to get the topmost contendors over.
No.135738
Anonymous
>>135244
I mean, I like her a lot too and I always vote for her but don't build any one contestant as a messiah, anon. Unless you get really, really lucky it can only lead to dissappointment
No.135741
Anonymous
Replies:>>135745
Image:171881557985.png(161kB, 556x766)48D5B660-20BE-45E2-9FF1-AEAEC1C6022E.png
this must finally be Round 2, where's my opponent?
No.135745
Anonymous
Replies:>>135762
Image:171881696220.jpg(78kB, 641x534)excellente.jpg
>>135741
No.135762
Anonymous
Replies:>>135810
Image:171882156764.jpg(28kB, 225x225)6FF8CAC4-9703-4732-A271-ED2CDB2BDD8A.jpeg
>>135745
hey get away from me
No.135810
Anonymous
Replies:>>135830
Image:171882598766.jpg(14kB, 175x289)images (48).jpeg
>>135762
You seem just like The Russian's type of man.
No.135830
Anonymous
Image:171882965825.jpg(103kB, 1042x1198)D04BEF0C-0A57-4DE9-98DA-F63E891E0E78.jpeg
>>135810
so this is my opponent? alright bring it on
No.136081
Anonymous
Replies:>>136083>>136085
i don't know who the fuck this guy is but this is instantly one of the tournament's worst jokes. as horrendously unfunny as others can get, at least they're not spilling over into unrelated threads.
No.136083
Anonymous
>>136081
I dunno it's pretty funny
No.136085
Anonymous
>>136081
Yugi bro btw.
No.136106
Anonymous
Replies:>>136108
That latest stealth thread was honestly good and interesting to see what the natural board feel is instead of all the sharty, /v/, or tourneyfag tourist opinions and spam as they are too preoccupied with /a/
No.136108
Anonymous
Replies:>>136114>>136117
>>136106
I'll post an archive of it as a response to anyone calling Betty a literal who or irrelevant winner for now on.
No.136114
Anonymous
>>136108
Post it now?
No.136117
Anonymous
Replies:>>136121>>136149>>136150
>>136108
Betty is a literal who
No.136118
Anonymous
>>136115
lol, I didn't mean to click the NSFW tag at all
No.136119
Anonymous
Image:171885598665.png(79kB, 540x396)1715102586228.png
(try this again) With all the talk about Jessica Rabbit, I'd also keep Pacifica Northwest in mind with regards to characters well overdue for recognition. Always highly rated, always has a vocal support base, but every single year so far, she's been stonewalled in the third round. I shall stand for this no more.
No.136121
Anonymous
Replies:>>136129>>136165>>138321
>>136117
RETARD
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/144092003/#144143777
No.136129
Anonymous
Replies:>>136139
>>136121
>those couple anons confused why Niacey got 6th place over Regular Duo and Warner's Finest
Shame no one jumped in to tell them they also tied with Wallace & Gromit.
No.136139
Anonymous
Image:171886498120.png(548kB, 1196x1099)Snuggles.png
>>136129
Truly the darkest of dark horses.
No.136149
Anonymous
Replies:>>136165
>>136117
>Literal who fag is confirmed to be a tourist to /co/ who raids when tournaments happen
Lol
No.136150
Anonymous
Replies:>>136165
>>136117
Maybe on planet retard.
No.136165
Anonymous
>>136149
>>136121
>>136150
I'm not even that guy I just wanted to see the thread
No.136179
Anonymous
Replies:>>136182>>136190>>136198>>136520>>136522
>>135244
I know this might come across as insultful and clueless, but what type of legacy does Jessica Rabbit have? I know she stars in a movie where there's a lot of big names in it but I am legitimately not sure what else.
No.136182
Anonymous
Replies:>>136189
>>136179
Nostalgia Critic put her as #1 in his top 11 hottest animated women.
No.136189
Anonymous
>>136182
Anon he put sailor moon in there too.
No.136190
Anonymous
>>136179
it's a good movie
No.136198
Anonymous
>>136179
It has a lot of things that it permanently revolutionized for the animation industry. But the most important things boil down to these three:

1. Steven Spielberg directed it
2. It was a collaboration between Walt Disney, Warner Bros and Universal Pictures
3. Father of modern western animation, Richard Williams, was the main animator for the movie.

Starting off, it is pretty obvious why it is such a big deal that Steven Spielberg directed it. He also was responsible for the biggest cinematic studios to collab with each for them to star their characters in the movie. But most importantly, Richard Williams was the guy who animated the movie. The things this movie achieved wouldn't have been feasibly possible without this artist in the production. He's singlehandedly responsible for teaching and revolutionizing modern western animation (not western artstyle but western animation. Big difference). His animation skills were absolutely unparalleled and made 2D animation blend in with the realistic background flawlessly.
No.136225
Anonymous
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm comics and cartoons
No.136507
Anonymous
Replies:>>136509>>136510>>136513
>NSA was probably lying about furriggers
>that means Shirley was actually second place the whole time
>the argument for Fangs asterisk is gone
Ummmmm, asterisk xisters, what the fuck
No.136509
Anonymous
>>136507
>2024
>Shirlnigs are still trying to make up why the most blatant rigged run in Ms /co/ history ackually was legitimate
No.136510
Anonymous
Replies:>>136517>>136591
>>136507
I still think Shirley was stranger than the other furry picks that got far, but at the same time it almost seems that people forget she was getting a lot of attention around her campaign. Saying she was simply rigged doesn't tell the full story.
No.136513
Anonymous
>>136507
I refuse to believe Shirley getting to finals was legit. To an extent Nicole still feels bullshit to me too.
No.136517
Anonymous
Replies:>>136591
>>136510
it's possible that some minor rigging got the ball rolling, then she picked up momentum from a solid campaign and people generally liking courage. but there's no way it was entirely legit.
No.136520
Anonymous
>>136179
To give an answer that's not just about her movie, she's a thoughtful parody on Golden Age Hollywood actresses who turns out to be sincere and capable beneath her pretty exterior. She's just a likable character and arguably the biggest breakout among the movie's original cast. When you throw in her renowned sex appeal and the impact of her movie, it all adds up to a strong pick. She's absolutely deserving to make at least Elite Eight.
No.136522
Anonymous
Replies:>>136547
>>136179
WFRR basically was the start of the late 80s/early 90s renaissance, both in film (where it's basically the first film in that line) and tv. It had such a solid critic reception and box office success that it single-handedly revived interest in quality, mature animation. And that's before Jessica inspired a whole generation of waifus
Roger Rabbit himself might represent better but he's a niche, non-serious character in Mr /co/ terms with inconsistent on and off qualifying and never getting past round 1. Which means Jessica has to take the reigns, and with that background she wouldn't be a bad winner in the slighest
No.136547
Anonymous
>>136522
a lot of good legacy/representative picks in mr. /co/ are stymied because the average character quality is so damn high that they can barely get their foot in the door. seriously, mr. /co/ is in a whole 'nother echelon compared to every other tournament.
No.136555
Anonymous
Replies:>>136559>>136561>>136595
Nightshift really shoulda just removed the 4 votes and let Chel move on
One time rigging was the correct move
No.136559
Anonymous
Replies:>>136560
>>136555
The one time I've actually been peeved by /v/fag crossover autism and where I think it had an actual influence on /co/ tourneys was the Armstrong fag that was basically responsible for slightly tipping the votes in Shirley's favor.
No.136560
Anonymous
Replies:>>136564
>>136559
All Chel did was get shoved up some attentionfag's butt, anon.
No.136561
Anonymous
Replies:>>136562>>136595
>>136555
Seriously, this is what blows my mind the most about the situation. If she wasn't actually lying about or misreading Shirley being rigged, this would have been the obvious course of action.
No.136562
Anonymous
Replies:>>136563>>136595
>>136561
But then NSA wouldn't get "glory" to stroke her ego for giving the big epic asterisk to the horrible, evil furries if she just quietly removed a couple of votes
No.136563
Anonymous
Replies:>>136588
>>136562
The reveal that both Elite Eight images were done by her was insane. I disliked the use of the asterisks there already, but I assumed it was some anon or couple of anons just sticking by the "official" word. Learning it was NSA made it even worse, and it's a shame we don't have pics without the asterisks now.
No.136564
Anonymous
Replies:>>136584
>>136560
That doesn't make Shirley the better choice.
No.136565
Anonymous
Replies:>>136572>>136575
>furfags are STILL getting mad
Shouldn't have rigged, now take this
>*
No.136572
Anonymous
>>136565
>says stupid shit
>accuses others of just being mad
A tale as old as time...
No.136575
Anonymous
>>136565
Are the furfags in the room right now anon?
No.136584
Anonymous
Replies:>>136586
>>136564
Chel didn't do a very good job of showing she was a good choice to begin with
No.136586
Anonymous
>>136584
You're thinking too much in a campooner mindset.
No.136587
Anonymous
Replies:>>136589
Chel is boring and Armstrong was right.
No.136588
Anonymous
Replies:>>136620>>136773
>>136563
>and it's a shame we don't have pics without the asterisks now.
Here.
https://files.catbox.moe/xtf6h8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/rh1sdz.png
No.136589
Anonymous
Replies:>>136620
>>136587
It's not about being right, it's about doing it in semi's against Shirley of all times.
No.136591
Anonymous
>>136510
>>136517
Shirley might not have been rigged at first, but NSA basically going and saying "DON'T vote for these characters you guys!" guaranteed she would be rigged for the rest of the tourney.
No.136595
Anonymous
Replies:>>136604>>136622>>136626
>>136555
>>136561
>>136562
Too revisionist in history.
Main reason was NSA basically could not remove any votes because there wasn't anything saying people could, as after the Captain America accident people didn't trust hosts enough to not just remove votes so their favorites moved forward. Similar with the Emmy/Mika controversy where it came out the characters were openly being rigged by outsiders, however neither were removed and allowed to advance due to not wanting to start a trend where people rig characters so they could be disqualified and it was decided for people to naturally vote them out next round.
NSA probably thought people would do the same with shitters like Shirley and Nicole once she brought up rigging, which the opposite then happened potentially due to a stronger rigging setup and potentially due to /v/types being encouraged to go against host for lulz
The sketchy part was not asking this right when the characters were said to be rigged but waiting until the final round so that Fang was basically guaranteed the win, even if it was very high probability she would have won against Chel also
No.136596
Anonymous
Replies:>>136603>>136618
>>135281
What the actual fuck is this board's obsession with Nostalgia Critic and AVGN I don't get it
No.136603
Anonymous
>>136596
the lols
No.136604
Anonymous
>>136595
don't those usually happen in the final round?
No.136618
Anonymous
>>136596
Dunno, but JdG is better than AVGN.
No.136620
Anonymous
Replies:>>136623
>>136589
When only four characters are left, people are going to have more scrutiny against obvious weak links
>>136588
Wow, you'd you get such clean edits?
No.136622
Anonymous
>>136595
>Main reason was NSA basically could not remove any votes because there wasn't anything saying people could
if NSA gave even the slightest fuck about the rules she wouldn't have taken a big fat shit on the final round
No.136623
Anonymous
>>136620
>people are going to have more scrutiny against obvious weak links
Right… so Shirley should’ve lost.
No.136625
Anonymous
Replies:>>136665
Even if most furry picks in Ms. 2022 weren't rigged, it's still annoying how resident furfags jump on every excuse to whine about being the most oppressed minority and how everyone is out to get them when most people just don't give a shit.
No.136626
Anonymous
>>136595
>NSA probably thought people would do the same with shitters like Shirley and Nicole once she brought up rigging
The problem here is that you assume NSA was merely a case of incompetency and didn't have any ulterior motives by that point. Hosts have always had the ability to trash individual votes, there really was no point at all to bringing up rigging other than just wanting to kick the hornets nest, which is something people had accused NSA of since the very beginning.
No.136665
Anonymous
>>136625
I do find it tragic that Captain Amelia was also grouped with the furries on being a rigged pick, when there’s little to no evidence of that ever actually happening.
No.136773
Anonymous
>>136588
Thanks!
No.136917
Anonymous
Replies:>>136940>>137109>>137405>>137412
Image:171908622751.jpg(185kB, 1920x1080)Kara_and_butterflies.jpg
Will MAWS give Supergirl a bump this year like it gave Lois last year?
No.136940
Anonymous
>>136917
Maybe, she’s done well in previous tournaments so it’s likely that this will give her a boost
No.137109
Anonymous
>>136917
I wouldn't count on it.
No.137405
Anonymous
>>136917
I mean, it reasonably could. Just don't nominate her in the 18 outfit... She does wear other things in the series, right?
No.137412
Anonymous
Replies:>>137419
>>136917
Of course she'll get a bump. Lois went from not even making the bracket to top 16 last year. Kara has always been a popular /co/ waifu too and this depiction already has lots of fanart. She's won't be a serious contender for the title, but don't be surprised to see her reach the 3rd or 4th round.

Also i just realized the absolute STATE comics reps for Ms. /co/ are in this year. With Raven and Harley sitting in timeout Starfire is gonna have to carry all by herself.
No.137419
Anonymous
>>137412
Power girl got R4 before (2020), but after that it's been R1 every year.
No.137434
Anonymous
Replies:>>137463>>137466>>137625
>Raven
>Starfire
>Wonder Woman
>Power Girl
>Super Girl
>Zatanna
>Harley
>Black Canary (shit and finished but still counts)

Why do the biggest comic waifus come from DC? Most of them don't get very far but they at least consistently qualify. Marvel representation in Ms like
>She-Hulk (shit and finished)
>Gwenpool (a fairly recent addition)
And... I think that's it. EMH Wasp is decently popular on /co/ but I don't remember if she even qualified.
No.137463
Anonymous
Replies:>>137470>>137471
Image:171919107548.png(216kB, 504x529)Reimu.png
>>137434
There's Juckia, but seeing as how half of the last bump limit stealth thread was in a frothing rage over her she's not getting far.
I don't get it, I don't care about Jucika and probably won't vote for her but it's not something proactively awful like Murder drones, I just don't really vibe with it. It's not something worth being actively mad about.
No.137466
Anonymous
>>137434
Hilda and Johanna are also technically comic reps but... yeah.
No.137470
Anonymous
Replies:>>137476>>137482
>>137463
>It's not something worth being actively mad about.
Who did Jucika beat in her 2020 run, anyway? Our answer is probably there.
No.137471
Anonymous
Replies:>>137475
>>137463
She's the actual worst /co/ E8.
No.137475
Anonymous
Replies:>>137479
>>137471
Worse than Shirley??
No.137476
Anonymous
Replies:>>137477
>>137470
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Jucika
>Death
>ZONE-tan
>Zatanna
>Hekapoo
It was literally an easy bracket not worth being angry over. Not that it matters because fellow /co/ 8th placer Mr. Incredible is still objectively the worst of them all.
No.137477
Anonymous
Replies:>>137481
>>137476
>Hekapoo
Don't tell me anti-Jucikafags are just seething Star vs anons, that would make far too much sense.
No.137479
Anonymous
Replies:>>137480
>>137475
Yes.
No.137480
Anonymous
Replies:>>137483
>>137479
Jucika wasn't rigged
No.137481
Anonymous
Replies:>>137494
>>137477
I thought the actual seethe was for Slappy the Squirrel
No.137482
Anonymous
>>137470
Doesn't who she beat the following years make way more sense.
>Slappy (funpost aggro campaign)
>Propane (funpost pick)
>Sasha (DTVA pick)
No.137483
Anonymous
Replies:>>137489>>137490>>137492
>>137480
She's the worst character in herself pick, nothing to do with tourney stuff. Mr. Incredible fag's reasoning goes along him being bad for being some meta buff guy pick.
No.137489
Anonymous
>>137483
Jucika isn’t a bad character, either. She's simple, but there's appeal and uniqueness in that simplicity.
No.137490
Anonymous
>>137483
>She's the worst character in herself pick
I hope you've at least read a Jucika comic to come to that conclusion.
No.137492
Anonymous
Replies:>>137502
>>137483
Not this shit again...
No.137493
Anonymous
Replies:>>137495
>3-panel comic strip joke that became fotm popular cause feminist and coomers
Jucika is a bad E8.
No.137494
Anonymous
>>137481
Most seethe seems centered around her E8 run, the match against Slappy happened after the fact.
No.137495
Anonymous
Replies:>>137500
>>137493
She's not any worse than Frankie.
No.137500
Anonymous
Replies:>>137504>>137510
>>137495
Frankie's a long running board classic. Has prominent appearance in a popular cartoon.
No.137502
Anonymous
>>137492
This shit again!
No.137503
Anonymous
Replies:>>137506>>137508>>137520
All this recent hate talk about Jucika is awfully reminiscent of that guy here who kept insisting Eris was a "Jucika tier" joke pick with no character and how Wuya was totes more complex and multifaceted and deserved to win more in contrast.
The takeaway here should be that elitism about character writing in Ms. /co/ will never not be retarded.
No.137504
Anonymous
Replies:>>137513
>>137500
"Character X is better because they're iconic" shouldn't be an argument because that's basically implying the character has nothing else going for them.
No.137506
Anonymous
>>137503
This, just vote because they make your dick hard and/or they're funny most female cartoon and comic characters suck anyways
No.137508
Anonymous
Replies:>>137524>>137592
>>137503
How much of a metafag am I that I didn't want Eris winning because I thought Grim would be a better winner for Billy & Mandy?
I like Grim as a character more, but still.
No.137510
Anonymous
>>137500
So if Frankie wasn’t a popular character there’d be nothing to distinguish her from Jucika?
No.137513
Anonymous
>>137504
It is way more sensible that she would do good in a ms. /co/ though.
No.137514
Anonymous
Replies:>>137535
Death, ZONE-tan, Zatanna, and Hekapoo should've gone further than Jucika
No.137519
Anonymous
Replies:>>137525>>137527
>Jucika
>ENA
>Johanna
Triad of overrated tourney-hyped bad E8 girls.
No.137520
Anonymous
>>137503
Wuya is more complex and deep yet it took host rigging for her to get past the designated jobber rounds, the Eris vs Wuya shitflinging from last year was extremely retarded even if NSA wasn’t outed as having massive preferential bias for them both since they’re already thematically similar, might as well label Wuya Skub and Eris Anti-Skub.
No.137524
Anonymous
Replies:>>137526
>>137508
I do agree Grim would be a better representative of his series than Eris (and arguably Mandy as well), but I can't see him winning any time soon.
No.137525
Anonymous
>>137519
FARTSbro btw
No.137526
Anonymous
Replies:>>137529
>>137524
Why not? He made E8 on two separate occasions while being completely silent, he has better chances than dozens of other characters.
No.137527
Anonymous
>>137519
I don't think you know what "overrated" means.
No.137529
Anonymous
>>137526
>While being completely silent
Jeez, why do I still see people spout this bullshit? Grim had OC on both occasions he made top 8. See, if anything the fact people keep insisting on the opposite is part of why I can't see him winning, much in spite of having support.
No.137533
Anonymous
The lightbringer should be in a tournament at least once
No.137535
Anonymous
Replies:>>137541>>137550
>>137514
Hekapoo is single-handedly responsible for the worst non-NSA post in tourney history, so no.
No.137541
Anonymous
Replies:>>137568
>>137535
Qrd? I don't remember
No.137550
Anonymous
Replies:>>137568>>137585
>>137535
Which of NSA's posts was the absolute worst? I could see several contenders, though the "these are MY tournaments" line comes to mind first.
No.137568
Anonymous
Replies:>>137585
>>137541
Dude posted a very unflattering shot of his dick asshole in tribute to hekapoo.
>>137550
Water laws.
No.137585
Anonymous
>>137550
The "My tournament" post really was the worst, because it was all God complex with absolutely no competency to back it up
>>137568
Sometimes I'm tempted to be bi but then remembering that post scares me back into straightness
No.137592
Anonymous
Replies:>>137626
>>137508
That was quite stupid of you anon
No.137625
Anonymous
>>137434
Wasp qualified and even won a round but otherwise appear to have sadly fall in the wayside
No.137626
Anonymous
>>137592
Well you don't have to tell me twice
No.137632
Anonymous
Replies:>>137638>>137645>>137647>>137657>>137688
>>137630
It is interesting how people just collectively forget/ignore the fact that NSA's first actual tourney was Mr. 2021, and she was one of the Grievous campaigners... There's even a chance she was the one pushing for Grievous in the previous years.

I guess Grievous was the first real underdog winner and people don't want to tarnish that feeling too much
No.137638
Anonymous
>>137632
I think we found the actual worst winner now. Spinel and Recette could never.
No.137645
Anonymous
>>137632
I've mentioned for a while how he was basically the first tourney meta winner (some would argue Tom). Male characters and Mr. winners are generally so liked people would rather not throw shit on Mr. /co/ though.
No.137647
Anonymous
Replies:>>137658>>137659
>>137632
The first 'underdog' winner chronologically was arguably Tom (people commented on his low seeding at the time wanted to prop him up as a result), although I don't remember either him or Grievous having a prominent meta argument in their favor in terms of OC and campaigning hype.
No.137657
Anonymous
>>137632
While Hank would have likely aged better, Grievous was at least an excellent pick to reflect other franchises getting involved in animation. I still don't believe NSA directly rigged any picks in, and far as I recall there were no possible attempts to sabotage in Grievous' favor during 2021.
No.137658
Anonymous
Replies:>>137676
>>137647
Thing with Grievous is he was like the first campaigner centric winner, and campaigner centered winning over purely more popular (Hank). He'd built up reputation over the years and I remember Grievous posters getting praised for their consistent work. That it was the first tourney NSA was front running and they were a huge campaigner and Grievous girl kind of adds to the idea of him as a first or at least spearhead meta-ish pick now.
No.137659
Anonymous
Replies:>>137662
>>137647
Tom was a nigger buff winner. It's just that there aren't any other nigger buff winners so people don't think of them much as a category. But his reasonings for winning were much more
>"haha funny JoJo meme"
>"if Duffy wins here we will never have our epic cuck match"
>genuine iconic status (to be fair to him for a second)
than "his campaign was so cool and high-effort we gotta make him win". Grievous was the first example of that, next to Hank he was definitely seen as the underdog whose YEARS-long campaign was finally paying off. How much of that NSA meddled with to push her pick is unknown, but it's still interesting Grievous is rarely ever brought up among NSA controversies.
No.137662
Anonymous
>>137659
While I do think the meme helped Tom, he's still a respectable enough winner that it's forgivable. I did prefer Daffy myself, but at the same time I would say he still has a better chance of still coming back to win compared to what Tom would have gotten.
No.137667
Anonymous
Replies:>>137672
I said it before but Tom and Grievous are the low key most significant winners across all boards. The entire tourney game was subtly being redefined through them.
No.137671
Anonymous
>>137669
Why I said low key. His run was the first actual instance of meta creeping.
No.137672
Anonymous
Replies:>>137674>>137676
>>137667
Tom isn't really that significant as a winner. He was just a random oddity and probably the least remembered winner. It's also weird to look at him as an underdog even in hindsight, considering he's a household name.

Grievous, Recette and Batter were the ones that truly changed the game.
No.137674
Anonymous
>>137672
It's actually hilarious how the winner of the most "meta-heavy" tournament is the only one from that year that's left next to no impact.
No.137676
Anonymous
Replies:>>137678>>137679>>137680
>>137658
>>137672
I think I still consider Mrs. Monarch as the first truly meta-ish campaign centric pick; less obviously popular than her opponent (Tyr'ahnnee), bolstered by active support from a dedicated group of fans rather than household recognition, and lastly propped up by a recent event which in this case inspired pity-voting.
But it's interesting how if she hadn't won her year, you'd either have Fang or Tyr'ahnee in her place, who would qualify almost just as much (a lot of people tend to forget Tyr started very small in the first Ms. /co/ and had to build up a reputation through years of campaigning).
No.137678
Anonymous
Replies:>>137683
>>137676
It wasn't the campaign that boosted her.
Fang would've been the first campaign-centric winner, Tyr'ahnee was already seen as a powerhouse by 2020 I think.
No.137679
Anonymous
Replies:>>137682
>>137676
I do have to wonder how 2022 would have changed had Fang already won in 2020. The fact it would seem like a largely different tournament says a lot about the impact that Fang left behind, love or hate her as a contestant.
No.137680
Anonymous
Replies:>>137681
>>137676
Monarch's win I would primarily attribute to the cancellation, which I wouldn't call tourney meta. It's an external circumstance. Tourney meta would be stuff like campaigns, thread presence, tourney history and reputation (silent, powerhouse, underdog, ect).
No.137681
Anonymous
Replies:>>137686
>>137680
I would say Monarch affected the tournament meta, but that's largely because she created an unexpected power vacuum in Ms. /co/. Raven losing to Spinel in 2019 was already a big deal, but 2020 sealed the deal of the tournament never being normal.
No.137682
Anonymous
Replies:>>137689
>>137679
>I do have to wonder how 2022 would have changed had Fang already won
Standing by my breakdown here >>131325
>>131338
No.137683
Anonymous
Replies:>>137685
>>137678
Tyr’ahnee in 2020 was essentially Grievous before Grievous, and in Ms. /co/.
No.137685
Anonymous
Replies:>>137691
>>137683
I don't really remember it being like that, people were already treating her as a naturally strong contender, especially next to who she ended up matching in the end.
No.137686
Anonymous
>>137681
>but 2020 sealed the deal of the tournament never being normal.
Which is a shame because 2020 was a very nice, orderly tournament all things considered.
No.137688
Anonymous
Replies:>>137692
>>137632
>NSA darling
>Genndypick
>/tv/ rep because Grievous wasn't made with Clone Wars 03 in mind
checks out
No.137689
Anonymous
Replies:>>137698>>137701
>>137682
That's a fair breakdown. No disagreement on Raven making Elite Eight in 2022 without Fang to stop her. I could have seen Raven, Chel, or Brisby all having a chance to take it, though the last one might have still been blocked or hindered by NSA. The interesting part is that we don't know how exactly the rigging accusations would have gone down without Fang, though it is safer to assume the closest scenario. One interesting scenario with Brisby is if Shirley also made it to the finals. Would be a controversial finale, but I do think Brisby would have easily won it. Could have also seen Tyr'ahnee possibly advancing and even winning if she got more attention without Fang as the tournament's main darling, especially since the gap with Chel was really close in the actual tournament. I don't believe ENA, Nicole, or Nani would have won in any realistic scenario, and Shirley winning would be a very contentious set of specific circumstances.

In the end, all of the possible winners do come back to Fang in some way. Raven was locked out of an earlier E8 return by Fang. Brisby had a lot of good graces even after NSA's rigging accusations, and only lost to Fang in the end. Tyr'ahnee would have had very different attention as the runner-up against Fang last time she was in. Chel is funnily enough the least direct out of them, but it's obvious that many believe it should have been Fang vs. Chel for obvious reasons. Again, it all highlights the sheer impact that Fang had on the tournaments, and really reinforces why she almost HAD to win on 2022. It's rare for a character in these tournaments to come off almost as the main character like that.
No.137691
Anonymous
>>137685
I don't exactly remember like how you describe it either. A lot of people were expecting her to finally make it, but as a result of her continuous campaign and failing previous years. Tyr'ahnee hadn't even made top 8 before that point be perceived as a powerhouse by a majority.
No.137692
Anonymous
>>137688
>Genndypick
You say it like that's a bad thing.
No.137698
Anonymous
Replies:>>137700
>>137689
How would Mrs. Monarch factor into this hypothetical? Does her E8 rank remain as a Cinderella Run, or do you see her managing to keep some of that momentum from 2020?
No.137700
Anonymous
>>137698
I'd predict she would have done better than some expected, but still doesn't return to the Elite Eight unless it was possibly against Nicole or Nani.
No.137701
Anonymous
>>137689
>One interesting scenario with Brisby is if Shirley also made it to the finals.
As I mention that was probably straight up never going to happen cause NSA was not allowing a "furigger" win and that finale would lock a furry win. In semi's they would let through the one non-furry remaining whether it be Chel or Tyr. The trajectory of Tyr getting changed is a possibility too, conclusion would still be the same though: no Fang then a "classic powerhouse" wins. If Raven beats Brisby then finale is Raven vs. Tyr/Chel or if she faces Shirley then she's locked to win, and if Brisby beats Raven then finale is Brisby/Nicole vs. whoever wins Tyr or Chel (with Tyr or Chel then locked winning the tourney).
No.137709
Anonymous
Replies:>>137714
>primal is becoming an anthology
>this means one off characters per episode
>no chance to bond with any of them
>primal theory characters didn’t even qualify in 2022
Primal bros it’s fucking over
No.137714
Anonymous
Replies:>>137730
Image:171920477943.png(12kB, 800x500)171069696308.png
>>137709
...But Primal already won?
No.137730
Anonymous
Replies:>>137742
>>137714
>Primal already won*
No.137742
Anonymous
Replies:>>137752>>137754
Image:171921121173.jpg(56kB, 1280x720)Nightshift skylanders.jpg
>>137730
>*
No.137752
Anonymous
>>137742
Kek
No.137754
Anonymous
Replies:>>137757>>137784
>>137742
>person talking about giving Primal an asterisk is the same one who gave her a dubious win in the first place
That doesn't even make sense
No.137757
Anonymous
Replies:>>137780
>>137754
Well, said out of context it does make a lot of sense.
No.137780
Anonymous
Replies:>>137785
>>137757
Not really.
No.137784
Anonymous
>>137754
NSA never wanted Fang to win. She wanted Fang to *win.
No.137785
Anonymous
>>137780
Because you have the context of having participated in Ms. /co/ 2022. The statement in the other post on its own isn't contradictory, that's what I meant. Of course, it would assume NSA is even far more devious than she has let on and 2022 was actually a huge psyop from her part to make Fang look bad.
No.137787
Anonymous
Replies:>>137818
did NSA even give Fang a * officially I forgot?
No.137788
Anonymous
Image:171926685191.jpg(585kB, 1812x549)NSAnon.jpg
needs correcting
No.137790
Anonymous
Replies:>>137791>>137793>>137797
when did NSA become a supervillainous
No.137791
Anonymous
>>137790
Become?
No.137793
Anonymous
>>137790
Ever since they wanted to fuck black hat
No.137797
Anonymous
Replies:>>137800
>>137790
When she started watching Invader Zim. I like the show, but the fanbase is infamously terrible. Jhonen Vasquez gets asked the most AWKWARD question ever.youtube thumb
No.137800
Anonymous
Replies:>>137805
>>137797
You can actually see NSA in this video
No.137801
Anonymous
Image:171927247088.png(5kB, 52x42)Spoiler image
Soon.
No.137805
Anonymous
>>137800
Her rape fetish is getting out of hand.
No.137806
Anonymous
Replies:>>137807>>137817
>fang was the main character of two tournaments
Bros, how is she so fucking strong…
No.137807
Anonymous
Replies:>>137810
>>137806
She wasn't really a main character in 2020.
No.137810
Anonymous
Replies:>>137811>>137819
>>137807
t. Wasn’t there
No.137811
Anonymous
>>137810
If Fang was a main character she wouldn't have lost
No.137817
Anonymous
Replies:>>137825>>137829
>>137806
Battler is the main character of King of /v/ but no one considers him strong.
No.137818
Anonymous
>>137787
no
No.137819
Anonymous
>>137810
FANG GANG arguably had more prominence and hype in 2020 than in 2022, and she already had a shitton of hype in 2022
No.137825
Anonymous
Replies:>>137827
>>137817
Battler isn't the main character. He's that one recurring character who comes in to save the day, but always gets his ass beaten by the major characters.
No.137827
Anonymous
Replies:>>137828>>137832
>>137825
>the major characters
...like Christopher Robin??
No.137828
Anonymous
Replies:>>137831
>>137827
Yeah he's the reason why the Losers Bracket existed.
No.137829
Anonymous
>>137817
He's been usurped by another ginger
No.137831
Anonymous
>>137828
That's bullshit and you know it.
No.137832
Anonymous
Replies:>>137833>>137841
>>137827
Christopher Robin was absolutely a major character during King 2022. Battler was given a side arc by popular demand, but it could have only ended in his defeat to maintain the status quo. Robin was then used as a means to prop up Luigi as an adversary to Garland.
No.137833
Anonymous
Replies:>>137834
>>137832
CR effectively didn't even exist in the tournament until he faced Battler.
No.137834
Anonymous
Replies:>>137836
>>137833
Jim and Wheatley were two bystanders that were used to set up Christopher Robin as a looming presence. The character was lurking in the background until he encountered Battler.
No.137836
Anonymous
Replies:>>137840
>>137834
>Battler
...who was the main character with a power level equal to Fang
No.137840
Anonymous
>>137836
Fang hasn't been a constant rape receptacle across the tournaments, nobody is a bigger jobber than Battler
No.137841
Anonymous
Replies:>>137870
>>137832
Christopher Robin is complete garbage that no one cared about until he faced Battler, where battlerfags started posting for him because of Battler. After beating him, Robin returned to being ignored shit because the battlerfags were done with him.
Shouldn't even be allowed to enter King /v/.
No.137842
Anonymous
I know it's just one guy because they always refer to Christopher Robin by his last name.
No.137843
Anonymous
all me btw
No.137864
Anonymous
Replies:>>137865>>137871
when i come to the /co/ off season threads, what i want to talk about more than anything is the /v/ tournaments
No.137865
Anonymous
>>137864
This. Especially about Battler. No one in /co/ can even come close to him.
No.137870
Anonymous
>>137841
Good thing that Charles Mafia City managed to kill him off twice in the same tournament.
No.137871
Anonymous
>>137864
more like the /co/ off topic threads haha
No.137876
Anonymous
Image:171934161845.png(249kB, 600x529)static.voices.png
This thread is perfect for criticizing /co/ characters like pic-related.
No.137877
Anonymous
Image:171934185021.png(494kB, 871x487)Mole.png
>>"This thread is perfect for criticizing /co/ characters like pic-related."
No.137986
Anonymous
honestly though I think mr incredible sucks
No.137987
Anonymous
Image:171944273188.png(436kB, 600x600)Syndrome-Super.png
>"honestly though I think mr incredible sucks"
No.137989
Anonymous
Replies:>>137990>>137994
Mr Incredible is fine, but his wife deserves to win over him. She's more iconic and remembered, even if most of it is for coom.
No.137990
Anonymous
Replies:>>137992
>>137989
She'd definitely be the best MILF to win
Vexus, Dexter's Mom, and Aunt Cass are pretty good picks too, again baffling that the best performing out of any of them is Johanna of all possible MILFs
No.137992
Anonymous
Replies:>>138001
>>137990
>Dexter's Mom
Nothing character
No.137994
Anonymous
>>137989
>Mr Incredible is fine, but his wife deserves to win over him.
Has it ever occurred to you that this is one of the prime reasons why Mr. Incredible is a terrible contestant? He literally has no business to be there if no one wants him to win.
No.137997
Anonymous
Image:171945141892.jpg(201kB, 1000x1453)silentmajority.jpg
At least when Elastigirl wins, Mr. Incredible will always have his girlfriend.
No.137999
Anonymous
Replies:>>138000
You know, I'm thinking much of the Mr. Incredible hate is from one guy
No.138000
Anonymous
>>137999
You're just now realizing that?
No.138001
Anonymous
>>137992
Her character has a lot of backstory if you know what I'm saying
No.138030
Anonymous
Replies:>>138031>>138032>>138037>>138105
Funny how the Mr Incredible fag can spam for hundreds of posts daily for almost a full year and never get called out but if he went after a /tnt/ darling he'd be made a named schizo instantly
No.138031
Anonymous
>>138030
/tnt/ is hypocritical as fuck. Remember when people here were fine with that spamming rigger because it was a wholesome chungus underdog?

It’s best not to take the opinions of people here seriously.
No.138032
Anonymous
Replies:>>138033
>>138030
He has gotten lambasted plenty of times already. Same thing with the anti-Luigi spammer.
No.138033
Anonymous
Replies:>>138034
>>138032
It's not enough. We need to dox them.
No.138034
Anonymous
Replies:>>138035
>>138033
But we gotta do something with anti-Niaceyfag or anti-Nfag
No.138035
Anonymous
>>138034
We gotta dox them too.
No.138037
Anonymous
>>138030
Again, who is this so-called /tnt/ darling because I see this phrase endlessly but never examples of it
No.138040
Anonymous
Replies:>>138046>>138054
>Primos characters will be eligible for Ms /co/ by it debuting about 10 days before the deadline
Based
No.138046
Anonymous
Replies:>>138047>>138048>>138050>>138065
>>138040
What is the appeal of that show exactly? I keep seeing it shilled on /co/ but from what I've seen it looks like just more generic calarts slop, like a mix between The Casagrandes and Craig of the Creek
No.138047
Anonymous
>>138046
Pedophiles. The answer is pedophiles.
No.138048
Anonymous
>>138046
It’s appeal is contrarianism or pissing off latinos, no one on /co/ likes it unless they fit into one of those two groups, that or they’re lolicons with exceptionally bad taste.
No.138050
Anonymous
>>138046
pedophiles have no consume shit after all the other shows staring little girls got cancelled except for the furry one
No.138054
Anonymous
Replies:>>138060
>>138040
The fact that there is always a primos thread up is concerning
No.138060
Anonymous
Replies:>>138063
>>138054
DTVA
No.138063
Anonymous
Replies:>>138064
>>138060
Is DTVA made up entirely of masochists or something, Primos is a shittier version of Loud House which isn’t that good to begin with, why the fuck are they looking forward to this?
No.138064
Anonymous
>>138063
it's either that or they have to watch the successful DTVA show Big City Green and they're not touching that
No.138065
Anonymous
>>138046
Pedophiles.
No.138105
Anonymous
>>138030
>Funny how the Mr Incredible fag can spam for hundreds of posts daily for almost a full year and never get called out
...huh? You mean the guy that also has a hateboner for Luigi and Jucika? Literally everyone ITT hates that guy. We just kinda stopped trying to fight it after a certain point because there's no point in arguing against someone who does not want to listen
No.138106
Anonymous
Replies:>>138107
I think it’s perfectly legal to hate on cartoon characters
No.138107
Anonymous
>>138106
now cartoon dogs on the other hand
No.138110
Anonymous
I think it’s perfectly legal to hate on people who obsessively hate on cartoon characters.
No.138111
Anonymous
Replies:>>138112>>138115>>138147
Image:171959666760.jpg(62kB, 656x367)gaston-talking-walt-disney-chara.jpg
Do you think Gaston is "winner material"?
No.138112
Anonymous
>>138111
>villain
>memorable
>great song
>chad
>the most literally me character
>ytp
yes
No.138115
Anonymous
Replies:>>138119>>138147
>>138111
He's not the worst but I think I'd prefer most other 90s Disney villains over him.
No.138119
Anonymous
>>138115
Seconding. His posts are enjoyable though, I would be fine with seeing him take an elite spot sometime.
Fun fact: Gaston's best Mr. /co/ result so far was a top-16 finish in 2019, only falling 9 votes short of beating Batman.
No.138147
Anonymous
Replies:>>138197>>139031
Image:171963345148.png(86kB, 852x181)jafar puns.png
>>138111
Yes
>>138115
Who's your preferred Renaissance era Disney villains? For me my top 3 is Gaston, Hades, and Jafar
No.138192
Anonymous
Replies:>>138193
Only posting this here because I fear jannies will ban me on the grounds of meta discussion.

Why does /co/ never talk about the shows it likes? It’s always outrage threads or actual toddler tier shit. If you cross reference the winners of the /co/ tourneys to actual discussion happening on /co/, almost none of them get anything more than like once a month. Jenny is literally the only character to get threads in the off season, and yes, that includes the mr /co/ winners.

Trust me, I’ve tried getting actual positive threads going but I get like four replies and then it dies. Meanwhile primos and Twitter screencaps get multiple a day.

I know most of the big boards are like this, but it’s just frustrating. I wanna go back and relive the old threads where we watched shit we actually liked.
No.138193
Anonymous
>>138192
/co/ loves to consume shit on the board, why do you think the same bait being made back to back always reach bump limit?
No.138194
Anonymous
Replies:>>138195>>138201>>138212
Image:171970801234.jpg(11kB, 345x310)58887a04195f636c3b5e0870ce3631c5.jpg
This is some bullshit and i need help.
I got a three day ban for "Complaining about 4chan policies" when i did no such thing.
In fact pretty much the opposite.
How do i contact 4chan staff?
I know this might not be on topic but i don't know where else to turn to.
No.138195
Anonymous
Replies:>>138196
>>138194
I ate one recently for calling the jannies fags for deleting on topic discussion. You just got to wait it out, you can only appeals bans that are longer than three days.
No.138196
Anonymous
Replies:>>138198>>138201>>138212
Image:171970862750.jpg(63kB, 1356x917)gir-is-sad.jpg
>>138195
Ah, it really sucks when i get the ban and my posts deleted unjustly. I didn't even talk shit about the mods or jannies, in fact i was praising them for actually doing their jobs.
The only explanation i can think of is if the person i was feuding against was a janny herself.
No.138197
Anonymous
>>138147
Why did Jafar say that?
No.138198
Anonymous
Replies:>>138216
>>138196
>herself
The Tranny Janny will never be a woman
No.138201
Anonymous
Replies:>>138202>>138216
>>138194
>>138196
Enjoy the vacation. There are ways around it, but I don't bother because 4chan is not actually worth using. It's just impossible to quit.
No.138202
Anonymous
Replies:>>138216
>>138201
Pretty much, I actively hate being there yet I can’t stop going.
No.138212
Anonymous
Replies:>>138216
Image:171972877653.png(992kB, 1080x904)jack.png
>>138194
>>138196
>those eyes
It's so cute how DARE you think that would work on me! Don't you know I have aids?
No.138213
Anonymous
Replies:>>138227
Image:171972935196.png(80kB, 1010x270)89.png
I was looking at Mr. /co/ again and I hope the Planktonfag shows up this year. His posts gave some good keks. Extra post for Wuss.
No.138216
Anonymous
Image:171975137360.gif(270kB, 200x214)797f18985f6327805c2445cfc75c55daca3aa0bfr1-200-214_00.gif
>>138198
kek.
>>138201
>>138202
Perhaps i should get myself perma banned?
But then i wouldn't be able to participate in the tournaments.
>>138212
Sorry to hear that dude.
No.138217
Anonymous
Replies:>>138219>>138228
Image:171975207610.jpg(82kB, 1160x665)GIRdog.jpg
So now that i'm banned from 4chan anyone wanna discuss anything? I'm open to any ideas for discussion.
No.138219
Anonymous
Replies:>>138225
>>138217
W-what did you do to get yourself banned
No.138225
Anonymous
Image:171977426757.jpg(47kB, 500x500)artworks-000443343000-if27l1-t500x500.jpg
>>138219
Well like i said "Complaining about 4chan policies" but i say that's complete and total bullshit.
I did bring up mods and jannies but only to tell the person i was feuding with that the post that they were defending were getting deleted so the mods/jannies must be agreeing with me when i tell them how crappy their behavior is.
No.138227
Anonymous
Replies:>>138270>>138275
>>138213
Jesus, what did Skeletor do to make Plankton so fucking pissed off
No.138228
Anonymous
>>138217
show us ur peanus lol
No.138248
Anonymous
More like Bob Subparr
No.138270
Anonymous
Replies:>>138359
Image:171981455008.png(408kB, 606x484)0577628E-9314-47D8-A076-B4E375C5129E.png
>>138227
probably an inferiority complex due to his small size, his height is also a problem NEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
No.138275
Anonymous
Replies:>>138359
Video:171981706962.mp4(919kB / 0:00:08 / avc1, 1280x720)PLANK A TON.mp4
>>138227
I kind of STOMPED his chances of ever reaching elite 8 NYEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
No.138284
Anonymous
Replies:>>138295>>138305>>138306>>138310>>138479
Looking at character performances rn and it's kinda incredibe how hard Azula fell off. She never made E8 once since 2019, but worse than that, she had close matches against controversial characters she logically should be able to stomp.
In 2023 she ONLY beat Anne by 25 votes. How does an iconic 2000s cartoon villainess (literally as stacked of a deck as can be) have such a close match against the face of DTVA instead of stomping completely?
But even if we chalk that up to low vote count, a year earlier, in 2022, she had an even closer match with Charlie, only beating her by 15 votes. Again, what? You would expect the result for an iconic 2000s cartoon villainess vs. controversial Vivzie stuff that naturally attracts spite to be not nearly as narrow.
And of course, if we decide that furry rigging wasn't real, then Azula lost fair and square to Tigress by a 100 votes. Tigress isn't even that big or notable, only has very occasional threads and was clearly the underdog of the match, and yet won by such a large margin.
I wouldn't be surprised if Azula eventually became an early rounds jobber at that rate.
No.138295
Anonymous
Replies:>>138299
>>138284
All ATLA girls save for Toph are boring
No.138299
Anonymous
Replies:>>138303
>>138295
Azula was a kino villain though.
No.138303
Anonymous
>>138299
A "kino" villain doesn't compare to my FUARKING HEROINE.
No.138304
Anonymous
Replies:>>138383
Image:171986127864.png(206kB, 969x1851)da800c5317659eafe3573d96008e36df98647127.png
To who offered I would be happy for group art of Teen Qualifier Squad. We could use it
No.138305
Anonymous
Replies:>>138306
>>138284
Something something year of the tiger and buff tiger mommy.
No.138306
Anonymous
Replies:>>138311
>>138305
>>138284
Hold on a fucking second. Didn't Azula and Tigress marry each other back then?
No.138310
Anonymous
Replies:>>138312
>>138284
Shego's kind of fallen off too since she lost to Eris in 2021
No.138311
Anonymous
>>138306
Yeah, that's why Tigress was absent last year. She was taking care of their child
No.138312
Anonymous
Replies:>>138316
>>138310
Kim hasn’t made top 8 since 2020 either.
No.138314
Anonymous
Image:171986403566.jpg(97kB, 1310x817)hhchristmas.jpg
Well, well, well, look at what day it is; it's the first day of JULY!
HH Gregg AD 2010 christmas in julyyoutube thumb
No.138316
Anonymous
Replies:>>138318
>>138312
Kim at least consistently gets to Round 4
No.138317
Anonymous
Image:171986488606.jpg(16kB, 739x415)1bb78.jpeg
What's next for Rolf?
No.138318
Anonymous
>>138316
That's something at least. Starfire hasn’t been in the top 8 since 2020 either but also reaches Round 4 from time to time.
No.138321
Anonymous
Replies:>>138327>>138328>>138482
Image:171986522761.png(85kB, 750x1290)hldart_coffeebreak.png
>>136121
I like how this thread contained the announcement that /co/ got a new booru we can upload tourney shit on (https://co.vidya.pics/) but no one here talks about it because the Bettyfag thought the more important thing to mention was debunking shit no one unironically says.
No.138324
Anonymous
I kinda agree with the character whose name I don't remember above
No.138326
Anonymous
Who cares, where's Battler?
No.138327
Anonymous
Replies:>>138335
Image:171986598533.gif(2.39MB, 336x354)air&space.gif
>>138321
>co.vidya
>open it
>only /co/
>
No.138328
Anonymous
Replies:>>138330>>138331
>>138321
The general board booru is kind of useless for archiving and viewing tourney shit due to the sheer amount of OC already there unrelated to the tournaments. We are still in need of a proper tournament booru, but I guess it's better than nothing.
No.138330
Anonymous
Replies:>>138332
>>138328
what happened to the old one
No.138331
Anonymous
Replies:>>138333>>138408
>>138328
We can just make special tags for tourney shit. So if you wanted to see Fang's tourney OC you'd just have to search "ms. co" and "fang" together instead of only "fang".
No.138332
Anonymous
>>138330
Have you been sleeping under a rock? Anyway, the owner of Booru+ decided to pull the plug without warning, taking a ton of boorus down with him.
No.138333
Anonymous
>>138331
I considered that, although we would also have to tag OC by tournament season.
No.138335
Anonymous
>>138327
That's because it shares the same domain as the current /v/ booru, which is self-hosted.
No.138336
Anonymous
Replies:>>138346
>/tnt/ suddenly likes ATLA now
No.138346
Anonymous
Replies:>>138362
>>138336
A poll held here not too long ago agreed Toph should have won Ms. /co/ 2023.
No.138359
Anonymous
Image:171987484267.png(1kB, 50x40)Plankton (1).png
>>138270
>>138275
I WILL GET MY VENGEANCE YOU BONE BRAINED FRAUD
No.138362
Anonymous
>>138346
80% odds she would have won without rigging.

And most of the other 20% is Raven, not fucking Wuya
No.138364
Anonymous
Replies:>>138375>>138415
Image:171987773534.png(254kB, 540x405)tumblr_inline_orsku0OgZG1ug7dhf_540.png
Speaking of rigging.
Is it a safe assumption that Desiree would have beat Fang round 1 in 2022 if it weren't for NSA fuckery?
She lost by about 50 votes and considering what NSA has said about exactly who's votes she deletes i have questions on who the real winner out of the two really was.
No.138365
Anonymous
Replies:>>138366>>138376
Tiff Crust doesn't even have a wiki article so I dunno where you'd find her art
No.138366
Anonymous
>>138365
literally who
No.138367
Anonymous
Image:171987953287.png(21kB, 755x383)ts7qzovg.png
What went wrong
No.138375
Anonymous
Replies:>>138378>>138415
>>138364
Absolutely not
No 128 seed has ever won or is going to win unless paired against another 100 seed shitter like NSA did with Livesey. The first round is always the anti-vote if there is a massive dominant character (see also: Muriel for Spinel) pose to win and it's clear the character was too popular to lose there, but the Fang haters wanted it done there.
50 votes is far too comfortable a lead for it to be suspect, especially if changing at least that many votes would affect NSA's main picks like Wuya
No.138376
Anonymous
Replies:>>138379
>>138365
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Ms._/co/_2023/Gallery
No.138378
Anonymous
Replies:>>138398
>>138375
You misunderstand. I'm talking about the year Fang won, not Wuya.
No.138379
Anonymous
Replies:>>138382
>>138376
Damn. The rep is well deserved. Susie, Cheesecake, and Tiff dominant qualifiers.

Why is XJ6 on the team
No.138382
Anonymous
>>138379
She had a strong presence in 2019 and 2020.

Though yeah the other 3 all took off in 2022, team needs a base player and token robot
No.138383
Anonymous
>>138304
I second that, it’d be nice to have group art for them.
No.138386
Anonymous
Replies:>>138387>>138389
Image:171988518968.jpg(83kB, 1152x864)sqkjlgdr.jpg
>2 months until Ms. /co/
No.138387
Anonymous
Replies:>>138388>>138391>>138397
>>138386
Uh... Pastebin?
No.138388
Anonymous
>>138387
The pastebin? I ATE it.
No.138389
Anonymous
Replies:>>138393>>138413>>138419>>138421
>>138386
>2021: "I'm going to learn to draw by next year to support my main."
>2022: "I'm going to learn to draw by next year to support my main."
>2023: "I'm going to learn to draw by next year to support my main."
>now: "FUCK!"
No.138391
Anonymous
Replies:>>138392
>>138387
BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with NSA, Starlow, and JJJ's Mr. /co/ 2023 votes.
No.138392
Anonymous
Replies:>>138394
>>138391
Who do you think provided all those incriminating pictures, pictures of NSA’s email
No.138393
Anonymous
>>138389
2 months is enough time to learn enough time to be able to draw something at least presentable
If you still can't draw anything more than a stick figure by then you can always resort to singing, making AI voice vocaroos of your character, writefagging, video editing, SFM/Gmod animations, etc. There are plenty of other options to support your chosen gal/guy
No.138394
Anonymous
Replies:>>138401
Image:171988756696.png(145kB, 256x256)jjj smirk.png
>>138392
>Spider-Man is busy raping some deer thing and jobbing right before Elite Eight
>meanwhile, my true HERO JJJ saved the tournaments
I couldn't find any JJJ chad images, but that's probably because he's already the embodiment of a chad.
No.138395
Anonymous
Replies:>>138396>>138410
Reminder that Jameson is so chad that he beat Bugs Bunny twice.
No.138396
Anonymous
Replies:>>138399>>138410
>>138395
and Bugs got beaten by two Shrek characters in a row
No.138397
Anonymous
>>138387
(non-existence confirmed)
No.138398
Anonymous
Replies:>>138412>>138415
>>138378
No I understand
Point I'm saying is it isn't as clear as just changing 50 votes for Fang. Because each vote is for all matches that means all removed votes affect all matches, and that might alter some of the preferences NSA prefers.
And NSA wouldn't make that a priority if she was actually removing votes that way, Fang was preferred compared to other options for NSA but it was nowhere near her main picks she cared about
No.138399
Anonymous
>>138396
Fun fact, both characters are voiced by the same person in spanish
No.138401
Anonymous
Replies:>>138786
>>138394
Parker was out. JJJ had to handle it himself.

I think we have to give him the highest honor we have. You know what his full name is? John Jonah Jameson Junior. (Not to be confused with his father J Jonah Jameson Senior)

Give him that 4th J he's always wanted. It's JJJJ now.
No.138402
Anonymous
Basil may have been bribed by all that cheese Wallace made in his bronze run, but JJJ, er...JJJJ, wasn't so easily swayed. He needed pictures
No.138408
Anonymous
Replies:>>138427
>>138331
I think one issue with using the /co/llection as the main booru for tournament OC is how we would miss of uploading OC that aren't necessarily drawings such as edits, screencaps and videos.
No.138410
Anonymous
>>138395
>>138396
Bugs has to be one of the most consistent in who he loses too
Outside his one E8 run all his loses are to those two groups
No.138411
Anonymous
Replies:>>138433
Image:171991336508.jpg(585kB, 629x3960)1572460227784.jpg
No.138412
Anonymous
Replies:>>138414
>>138398
Well you have no proof that NSA doesn't like Fang, not only that but i'm suggesting that she deleted votes for Desiree under the impression of rigging while leaving in all the Fang votes that were actually rigging.
As NSA said herself "Not all rigging is bad" saying that "Rigging for Fang is OK because she would have won anyway". With that mentality she did nothing against Fang rigging while doing something about her opponent's "rigging" even if legit votes got deleted as apart of it. And we know Fang got rigged for as she was apart of the whole furry rigging.
No.138413
Anonymous
Image:171991440493.png(388kB, 1280x711)8AKUXq8.png
>>138389
No.138414
Anonymous
Replies:>>138416
>>138412
NSA wasn't deleting votes from the forms by that point.
No.138415
Anonymous
Replies:>>138423
>>138364
>>138375
>>138398
wasn't it 30 votes
No.138416
Anonymous
Replies:>>138417
>>138414
Do we know this for sure?
No.138417
Anonymous
Replies:>>138418>>138423>>138442
>>138416
If NSA was already deleting such a high amount of votes directly from the forms, she wouldn't have used docs to show the following tournaments' results. As she stated, deleting votes from the forms takes forever, which I think adds to how the two heavily suspected instances of NSA rigging a character out (Gardevoir, Muffet) were razor-thin differences.
No.138418
Anonymous
Replies:>>138420
>>138417
In Muffet's case it wasn't vote deletion, Muffet flat out won the match but the way NSA rigged it was posting an earlier version of the poll where Ashley was winning onto the results document, then didn't bother to inform the other hosts of the ""accident" until it was too late to fix.
But you're right the most suspect results tied to NSA are ones with extremely close percentage margins, like if it's a 65% win NSA couldn't have rigged it even if she wanted to (either from being too time consuming or too suspicious to delete that many votes) but if the win is by like 7 votes it's very easy to dispose of a few votes for the character she doesn't want to win with nobody being the wiser. Which probably explains why NSA was never able to really rig Black Hat very far outside of the qualifiers since he got BTFO in his losses. As far as that particular character is concerned I think NSA rigged him in 2023 to qualify (given he qualified with a bare minimum votes seed, and among the other bottom seed he's ordered incorrectly) and maybe to beat Goofy, but the margin for Dale was too high to beat
That's my theory anyways, I think matches with a 50 vote difference are within NSA's capacity to have rigged and more than that probably not
No.138419
Anonymous
>>138389
Instead learn video editing
No.138420
Anonymous
Replies:>>138422>>138423
>>138418
ok but hear me out on this, what if NSA is just a retard?
No.138421
Anonymous
>>138389
You don't have to be good if you can at least be funny
No.138422
Anonymous
>>138420
Well, she kind of is, isn’t she? Barring the fact she has shown to be unable to keep up a lie or use proper punctuation, I think NSA shot herself in the foot the moment she opened herself up to having cohosts (even though none of them were the ones to expose her). This is something I don't really get about NSA; if we are talking about a narcissistic control freak who went onto throwing tantrums over her characters losing, why would she even want to have others overseeing her and potentially catch her in the act? I can think of alibi as a reason in the circumstance of being accused of rigging (this is what happened when Samaritanon defended NSA over the Muffet votes) but conversely, but wouldn't it be way less risky to just come up with a bunch of sockpuppets? It's not like NSA is a stranger to samefagging, anyway.
No.138423
Anonymous
>>138417
Well what i'm getting at here is what
>>138420 said.
I'm not saying what happened with Desiree was intentional, but a result of NSA's incompetence and all around dumbness.
Like i said, the possibility of her just deleting honest Desiree votes under the assumption of rigging while keeping actual Fsng rigged votes because "She was going to win anyway"?
As another Anon said it was actually 30 votes
>>138415 so i wanna ask how many votes did Brisby win by in her matches? If it's more than 30 than that means the 30 votes Desiree lost by were most likely rigged due to the Brisby rigger also rigging for every other furry/scalie character.
No.138424
Anonymous
Replies:>>138425>>138426>>138429
>Desireefag has lost it
Lmao everyone here really is a schizo
No.138425
Anonymous
>>138424
>Just a few Anon questioning the legitimacy of a NSA vote
>Somehow this is a bad and/or unusual thing
You're really just looking for an excuse to hate on someone at this point.
No.138426
Anonymous
Replies:>>138434
>>138424
besides we all know the #1 seed never loses in the first round
No.138427
Anonymous
Replies:>>138459
>>138408
>edits, screencaps and videos.
Would all of those really get banned from the new booru? Maybe they'd be fine with it as long as it's tourney-related.
No.138429
Anonymous
>>138424
It's Numnuts btw
No.138433
Anonymous
Image:171995084982.gif(1.77MB, 480x280)EF20BE25-5558-4560-B4BB-F7DD7B11557F.gif
>>138411
>Jim Gordon headcanon
No.138434
Anonymous
Replies:>>138435>>138436>>138437>>138438>>138463
>>138426
Bumblebees were close, Wario and Waluigi actually did
anyone else got any close calls?
No.138435
Anonymous
>>138434
Vergil?
No.138436
Anonymous
>>138434
But this is a comics and cartoons thread.
No.138437
Anonymous
>>138434
>wario and waluigi
Tourneys don’t count unless held of the board proper
No.138438
Anonymous
>>138434
Dick lost Round 2 of Villains.
No.138440
Anonymous
Replies:>>138444
Image:171995449452.gif(10kB, 78x98)GIR_epic_dance.gif
Well my ban should be lifted any minute now but it says i can't get the captcha because i have no internet connection, and that's obviously bullshit.
No.138442
Anonymous
Replies:>>138475>>138476>>138478
>>138417
There are 3 ways to win as a host.

1. Delete votes for the guy fighting the guy you want
2. Use your alt accounts to bump up the guy you like
3. Use you influence behind the scenes to influence voters by campaigning or larping.


Or In the event you can get away with not showing the documents...just lie completely and make up everything
No.138444
Anonymous
Replies:>>138445>>138446
Image:171996709365.jpg(47kB, 500x500)artworks-000443343000-if27l1-t500x500.jpg
>>138440
Fuck man i just restarted my computer but it still won't give me the captcha.
No.138445
Anonymous
Image:171996720609.png(57kB, 250x309)945406ffd302d1c0ebdc45c82ffca813_628e031a_640.png
>>138444
Never mind. Back in business.
No.138446
Anonymous
Image:171996967955.jpg(25kB, 600x550)need tomboy.jpg
>>138444
> it still won't give me the captcha.

Here you go, have a captcha.
No.138459
Anonymous
>>138427
I don't see why they would make an exception for tourney stuff in the first place when the /co/llection and /v/idya booru have always been there for archiving FANART.
No.138463
Anonymous
>>138434
Any randomized seeding tournament does not count as a 1st seed losing first round as we’re mentioning here
As in it needs to be against the proper 128th seed, not getting “randomized” against seed 5
No.138464
Anonymous
Replies:>>138465
Gir should wear his sexy dog costume more desu
No.138465
Anonymous
>>138464
Spider-Man…
No.138473
Anonymous
Replies:>>138483>>138487
Randomized Seeding's biggest problem is that it overwhelming hurts Mid-Ranking characters the most, who are the bulk of the competitors. It stops them from reliably fighting other midtiers, putting them at risk of either fighting a bunch of weaklings and thus not getting OC or attention(Mr. Incrediblr Effect, getting dismissed because people feel like you got it for free) OR getting put against a Top 20 seed and getting your ass kicked unfairly.

It also obviously hurts the Top tiers, who have been fucked over by rigging and falseflags enough as is.

It really only helps the bottom 20 or so by giving them the chance of fighting someone else weak enough to last a round or so, which is...probably a net negative for oc
No.138475
Anonymous
>>138442
I assume you mean Rig, not win?(right next to eachother on keyboard)

There's also 'randomized' seeing that gives your favs the easiest possible competition and clumps together the competition. Basically Gerrymandering.

Don't you find it odd how both of the NSA years have two FARTS vs FARTS matchups?
No.138476
Anonymous
Replies:>>138477
>>138442
In the rounds where no results were released, NSA could have literally done anything down to fabricating all the results. This also applies to cases where they got released like a month late, plenty of time to forge them.

In the cases where we did some documents, see all of the above. Bracket Gerrymandering, allowing your own alts to vote for your girls/guys, deleting votes for your opponents, and of course campaigning undercover. Wuya already had some loyal fans to start with who would fall in line and support her hook line and sinker if she was suddenly doing well, useful idiots
No.138477
Anonymous
>>138476
In how many instances have no results documents been released?
>King of /v/ 2022 semi-finals
>Ms. /co/ 2023 finals
>Mr. /co/ 2023 finals
>Queen /v/ 2023 "grand" finals
>King /v/ 2023 finals
No.138478
Anonymous
Replies:>>138480>>138481>>138484>>138569
>>138442
>2. Use your alt accounts to bump up the guy you like
>3. Use you influence behind the scenes to influence voters by campaigning or larping.
I'm already doing that and I'm not a host. And what fucking influence behind the scenes does a host have on voters? Choosing OP pics?
No.138479
Anonymous
>>138284
She gets no vocal support.
No.138480
Anonymous
Replies:>>138481
>>138478
I would assume that being able to view the results at all times and knowing when the peak voting hours occur does allow one to have more command over falseflagging and thread metagaming, yes.
No.138481
Anonymous
>>138478
>>138480
Also, assuming the host is bumping their picks with alt counts, being able to see the results in real time also allows them to rig juuuuust right for it to be believable. Compare that to Perifag voting 200 times for Peridot in qualifiers.
No.138482
Anonymous
>>138321
>Jowhonna fag acting smug about the ms /co/ that beat them
No.138483
Anonymous
Replies:>>138485
>>138473
Randomized seeding is simply the most fair way to start, anybody can get fucked by going against a top seed instead of the bottom seeds that may as well not exist in "regular seeding". This is basically a popularity contest, the tournament is decided on votes and not skill, so randomized is the more logical way to start.
>OR getting put against a Top 20 seed and getting your ass kicked unfairly
>unfairly
Because the #1 seed going against the 128th is totally fairer, yeah.
>putting them at risk of either fighting a bunch of weaklings and thus not getting OC or attention
What the fuck is this logic? This all depends on if somebody cares about the characters enough to do anything for them. If somebody really says "ummm... I like this character and want to make OC, but he's facing somebody that got seven less votes than him in the qualifiers, so I'm not going to bother making any this round, or post about him in any way at all", well, that's plainly retarded.
>which is...probably a net negative for oc
Again, this all depends on who people care for, and no, getting more votes in the qualifiers doesn't mean the characters are more likely to have somebody that does, especially in the starting rounds.
No.138484
Anonymous
>>138478
First, if NSA was being honest about deleting obvious alts, he can let his obvious alts slide and stay in.

As a host he shouldn't be messing with the threads at all, yet we know he did. And this is even more dangerous because the host knows peak hours, and they know what actually works and what doesn't. We talk about shit like the /v/ lesbian allegations sinking Pauling or the Trans meme sinking ENA or the frumpy mom thing sinking Johanna, but the host is the only person with real time feedback who knows for SURE what thread behavior effects results and how to screw people again.

Again, assuming he didn't take the easy blunt method and just mass delete opposing ballets or just make shit up
No.138485
Anonymous
Replies:>>138486>>138488
>>138483
>Because the #1 seed going against the 128th is totally fairer, yeah.
The 128th is by definition less popular, the least popular, thus generating the least discussion and OC barring a miracle.

If mid-seeds who have significantly more support are getting unlucky and getting mauled by high tiers OR simply left with a bunch of easy fights that don't generate discussion they get screwed. That absolutely is a known phenomenon, characters who coast by suddenly getting screwed over when they face a hard fight because they have zero material while the other guy has OC and has been campaigning.

It screws over high tiers(which NSA has done in otherways too) and it screwed over mid tiers by putting them at risk of one of the two above instead of fighting other mid tiers.

It solely benefits low tiers, who by definition have the least people behind them.

And regardless of all of this randomized brackets are susceptible to Gerrymandering, it's not fucking worth it anyway. Even if you think it's slightly better it gives way too much power to the guy making the brackets.Zero way to tell random from crafted
No.138486
Anonymous
>>138485
That matters because you can Gerrymander your pick to have mostly relatively safe matchups until the E8(Or even the E4 if you're really aggressive with it). This means you'd have to delete less votes and do less other fuckery to keep them in and you'd be unlikely to be caught.

Then once you're at the E8, with only 8 people to manage there's significantly more freetime to the hosts to fuck with things, it's way easier to purge 100 votes without causing crazy knock on effects. Not to mention there's a good chance the actual organic fans are making OC and creating an underdog narrative that will mask the actual problem.
No.138487
Anonymous
>>138473
no, randomized seeding's biggest problem is that we can't trust the hosts to not fudge it
No.138488
Anonymous
Replies:>>138489
>>138485
>thus generating the least discussion and OC barring a miracle.
No, it entirely depends on whether somebody cares enough to do so, which is more likely for the lower seeds than the top ones. How many times has a high seed had little to no presence until the third or fourth round? The top seeds and bottom seeds both have no reason to bother getting posts in the first round due to how obvious the results are gonna be; while in a randomized seeding, a mid-tier going against a top-tier or bottom-tier means things are more likely to go either way.
>If mid-seeds who have significantly more support are getting unlucky and getting mauled by high tiers
Luck is luck, it might suck, but it's fair.
>OR simply left with a bunch of easy fights that don't generate discussion they get screwed
This is entirely a campaigner issue, not seeding. Blame it on people not fucking caring enough about the characters, clearly they weren't "winner material" in the first place.
>it screws over high tiers [...] mid tiers [...] benefits low tiers
It equalizes the playing field, makes things FAIR. Everybody gets fucked equally; top seeds might lose, mid seeds can either have an harder or easier match and bottom seeds have a reason to exist.
>low tiers, who by definition have the least people behind them
No, qualifier votes aren't a good representation of support. There are characters in every tier, be it high or low, that get nothing. The people who post are only a fraction of the people voting, a character can get a high seed while nobody that posts in the threads care for them.
>muh gerrymandering
If you don't trust the host(s) when it comes to this, then why the fuck would you trust the host(s) in not messing with the votes later?
No.138489
Anonymous
Replies:>>138491
>>138488
>If you don't trust the host(s) when it comes to this, then why the fuck would you trust the host(s) in not messing with the votes later?
Makes it significantly messier and harder to hide. Gerrymandered matches are easier to control and tamper with.

>Qualifier Votes are not a good repersentation of support

If you believe this, then a Top Seed should be fully capable of losing to a low seed
No.138490
Anonymous
Replies:>>138491
IMO one problem I see in randomized seeding is that it makes campaigning during the qualifier round useless for anyone who is guaranteed to appear in the top 128. Yes, I have characters who can't normally qualify and need and extra push to make round 1 at all, but randomized actively discourages from supporting my other regular picks because there's no guaranteed benefit to getting a high spot.
No.138491
Anonymous
Replies:>>138493>>138496
>>138489
>Makes it significantly messier and harder to hide. Gerrymandered matches are easier to control and tamper with.
A rigger host will rig no matter what.
>If you believe this, then a Top Seed should be fully capable of losing to a low seed
It's almost like you didn't read the rest of what I said.

>>138490
>character is popular, so I don't care about posting them
Way to show that you care for them.
No.138492
Anonymous
Replies:>>138502>>138546>>138547>>138548>>138591
Image:172005335787.png(201kB, 902x902)1687254033783462.png
Oh fun, rules discussion. What's your ideal ruleset? For me, it would be
>Randomized brackets is ultimately pointless, and as people have pointed out is too easy for hosts to make favorable matches of. Keep it seeded, it's fair and immediately understandable
>Keep the voting form linked to the OC anchor, because it's funny to see lurk-only retards say "Guys where do I vote, why do I have to actually see the thread now"
>Losers bracket is fine as a separate thing, incorporating it into the main bracket like /v/ did is retarded. And fuck any 3 and 4 way matches
>Stop letting in live actors, youtubers, non-picture books etc in. There's nothing wrong with gatekeeping
>Controversial, but I never liked the Elite 8 ban. It feels like both a crutch and a punishment. If you needed 7 characters to get a timeout for your own guy to have a chance of winning, did you really win? Likewise, if you are popular, but can't quite make it you get double-punished for both losing when you're really getting hyped AND being out for the count for an entire extra year. That's gay and dumb. If you NEED to keep somebody out for the sake of "variety" then put the elite 8 ban on just the two finalists.
No.138493
Anonymous
Replies:>>138498>>138503
>>138491
Randomized Posting actively kills incentive to act during the qualifiers for heavy hitters because they'll get in and they don't have to fight for top seed.

The old guard like SCK or FARTS actually got a lot of campaigninig early on in 2019 and 2020, it was the combination of the meme of them being 'safe picks' and FARTS that killed them in 2021 and in 2022 onward the new voting system disenfranchised them.
No.138494
Anonymous
Replies:>>138499
I'm going to give my reasoning in the stupidest simplest way possible so you Tiger Rock tier brains might get on board.

NSA bad.
Randomized Bracket pushed forward by NSA.
Randomized Bracket bad.

StatsAnon good.
Statsanon defend seeded bracket.
Seeded bracket good
No.138495
Anonymous
Randomized seeding is how NSA forced Livesey through to later levels by pairing them against easy 100 something seeds
It is so easy to game a character to a sweet 16 or elite 8 run (especially if their campaign gets "momentum" as underdog) by having the first 3 rounds be against nothing but low seeds
No.138496
Anonymous
Replies:>>138498
>>138491
The point of posting and showing support during the qualifying round traditionally was for the chance of getting a higher spot for your characters and rewarded accordingly. Randomized changes this and makes it entirely about qualifying vs not qualifying.
No.138497
Anonymous
Replies:>>138501>>138561
Honestly given what a crooked bitch she turned out to be I want to just start off by resetting the rules to 2021's, the last time Stats hosted.

NSA is so corrupt that we can't trust the rushed and undocumented 'polls' she ran. We can't trust thread discord because we know it was being tampered with. We know NSA(whilst under another name) was heavily pushing losers bracket. Assume everything was done with malicious intent, nothing is real, and everything since 2021 has been a net negative.

We reset hard to 2021's ruleset and undo anything that's changed since. We can add back some stuff later if it seems fit, but we cannot trust any judgments made while NSA was in power. None of the results are legit, nothing in the threads can be proven legit, just ignore anything and everything that's happened since Stats vanished in the afterparty. You just woke up, that's where we are
No.138498
Anonymous
Replies:>>138506
>>138493
>>138496
Sounds like nobody truly cares about these "heavy hitters" if they don't bother to just fucking talk about them in the qualifiers.
No.138499
Anonymous
Replies:>>138500>>138512
>>138494
We still have anons defending hosts campaigning despite all of our bad actors being examples of such. Reminding them NSA was the one to make the push for randomized seeding isn't going to change the mind of someone enamored with concept.
No.138500
Anonymous
Replies:>>138504>>138507
>>138499
Host campaigning is fine if the hosts aren't riggers.
No.138501
Anonymous
>>138497
>Honestly given what a crooked bitch she turned out to be I want to just start off by resetting the rules to 2021's, the last time Stats hosted.

This. It's the only way to actually make things fair(in the sense of the rule changes not being engineered by NSA who has been proven to be a liar, a forger, and a cheat).

Maybe we can discuss reforms in the future once all this shit is gone, but it's a territory that's open to exploitation and nothing we've heard can be trusted given how much thread manipulation NSA did.

Posting form results, seeded brackets, losers bracket banned, no more unverified rigging claims, no more hosts larping in the threads. Go back to 2021.It was a purer time(Less pure than 2019, riggers happened and reduced trust, and Fusefag kinda ruined the hype and 'victory tour' side of things, but still better than since)

(Oh and Swimsuit Round being a thing in the polls. This is a weird one, I don't even think NSA was doing this intentionally she just forgot. In 2019 and 2020 we actually changed the poll pics in the E8 round to be swimsuited after people agreed to it and Stats said yes, and in 2021 he forgot and apologized. Then it just...never came back, and some anons don't even remember it being a thing)
No.138502
Anonymous
>>138492
>>Controversial, but I never liked the Elite 8 ban. It feels like both a crutch and a punishment. If you needed 7 characters to get a timeout for your own guy to have a chance of winning, did you really win?
fuck off retard
No.138503
Anonymous
Replies:>>138505>>138506
>>138493
>Randomized Posting actively kills incentive to act during the qualifiers for heavy hitters because they'll get in and they don't have to fight for top seed.
Nigger they didn't have to fight for a top seed anyway, that's what makes them heavy hitters
No.138504
Anonymous
Replies:>>138511
>>138500
It's by defintion a bad thing. We fucking ousted Domino initially over that specifically, and it contributed to Temp and Numnuts exile.

Also, let's stop the fucking fearmongering. At best it makes people act stupid and at worst it's used to mask shit. NSA used riggers as a shield to hide rigging. Temp got obsessed with undoing Fusefag's damage and in turn caused more damage.

Go back to 2021 ruleset. Don't attach a bunch of paragraphs about NSA, don't powergrab, just say 'Rule Reforms undone, resuming from 2021 ruleset'. That's grand. At least the criticism will be real and not tied up in all this bullcrap.
No.138505
Anonymous
>>138503
>a
A top seed. They were fighting for THE top seed. The Jenny Scrum.
No.138506
Anonymous
Replies:>>138514
>>138498
>keeps actively ignoring the point at hand
It's not that I no longer post about my regular picks during qualifiers, it's just that there's no incentive to do it in a non-seeded bracket. Heck, I might inadvertently end up fucking over those characters by giving them a high spot that immediately pits them against another powerhouse they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten without my campaigning.
>>138503
NTA but it's not just about top seeds, but mid seeds and tournament regulars in general.
No.138507
Anonymous
>>138500
Yeah see this? People don't learn.
No.138508
Anonymous
JJJJ would be disappointed if he saw this.

You know how much he had to suffer to get those pictures
No.138509
Anonymous
Image:172005485803.png(1.31MB, 2273x1193)TQS Blank.png
You wonder why Teen Qualifier Squad has suddenly been a thing in the last couple of years?

Because without any incentive to compete to get a higher seed none of the regulars or even semi regulars do anything.

It's ONLY the girls who barely get in or don't get in at all incentivized to roll out and mobilize, hence Susie, Cheesecake, and Tiff dominating OC output two years in a row. And both times 2/3 don't make it so all that OC makers leave. (Susie made it in 2022 and Tiff in 2023, Cheesecake hasn't yet).


I like all 4 of these gals, huge Tiff supporter last year and in Qualifiers a Cheesecake fan. But now I'm wondering if this is because NSA killed any motive for anyone else to even bother(Please don't spite vote the squad because of this I'm just wondering)
No.138510
Anonymous
Hence I'm asking the people running this. Do a Rollback. Ms. /co/ 2021 ruleset(which was actually the same as 2020 and 2019s, 2019 worked out most of 2018's kinks and it held out fine). We cannot really trust any reforms made under NSA to be good faith or legitimate. We can't even trust the anons supporting them to all exist(some do, there was always a minority complaning, but NSA gave them power)
No.138511
Anonymous
Replies:>>138513
>>138504
No, by definition it's fucking fine because hosts are still anons, but everybody is mad at all the shitty rigger hosts (that would rig for their votes anyway).
We've had multiple votes about different rules, now that NSA is gone we should have another one during Ms. that goes over multiple of NSA's changes and not just a single, "go back to before NSA" vote.
No.138512
Anonymous
Replies:>>138515>>138517
>>138499
So what if they're campaigning? What does that change? If they want to rig they'll rig it anyway but if they're campaigning at least they contribute something. You will never find anyone who's completely impartial and willing to waste an entire week of their life hosting shit he doesn't give a single fuck about. Even if you got someone unrelated for example from /v/ to host /co/ they're bound to develop some level of attatchment to certain character during the tourney itself.
No.138513
Anonymous
Replies:>>138519>>138537>>138593
>>138511
I was gonna say AFTER a year that might be ok if it's managed well, but absolutely fucking not immediately. NSA is still around lurking and occasionally trying to regain power and she has more loyalists than Temp ever did. Let her burn herself out or do something stupid again.

2024 should be a straight up reversion to 2019-2021 ruleset, no negotiations, because all the changes were made by corrupt leadership with unmonitored polls. We need a clean year just to reset the base, otherwise we're just letting NSA bruteforce her BS into being permanent.

Now, in 2025 if you want do a limited vote on one or two things, sure. But we need time for things to settle, and for anons to actually get a fresh taste of the before times.

2024 should be handled under the old ruleset, no negotiations. In 2025 we can talk. That's a fair compromise given the old rules got screwed over by a known liar, rigger, and narcissist.
No.138514
Anonymous
Replies:>>138521>>138529
>>138506
>no incentive to do it
What? Your incentive to post is that you FUCKING CARE about the character. "Ohhhh, but I don't wanna, he's gonna qualify anywayyyyy" is pure, uncaring laziness.
>I might inadvertently end up fucking over those characters by giving them a high spot that immediately pits them against another powerhouse they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten without my campaigning
What the fuck is this logic? It's randomized, high spot or not, you might face a "powerhouse". This just sounds like you want your pick to have a free win by doing nothing.
No.138515
Anonymous
>>138512
>If they want to rig they'll rig it anyway but if they're campaigning at least they contribute something.
Aren't they by definition already contributing by making sure of running the tournament smoothly?
No.138516
Anonymous
Replies:>>138518
Thread moving so fast so I'll say Mr. Incredible is a shit character who should've never reached E8 in Mr. /co/lympus, let alone qualify.
No.138517
Anonymous
Replies:>>138563
>>138512
Among other reasons, wasting time.

NSA used 'time limits' and scaremongering the threat of Temp having ticked off all the janitors to stonewall redoing the poll when she revealed over a dozen candidates had been screwed over. Everyone was fucking angry as shit, but too many people were scared of the Jannies thanks to that fearmongering and then Temp took the fucking bait hard and played into her hand. Whole thing was basically a trial run.

And we KNOW she was lying about not being able to do it in time because...
1. The next year she failed to get the polls open on time several times, zero issues from the mods
2. This was because, as it later turned out, she was wasting time larping on the threads and making artwork.

Also, even if they AREN'T rigging it, finding out a host is supporting a charcter makes people suspicious. And if that host falls from grace, the character is permanently tainted. Dan and Wilkins were rising powerhouses in 2020 and they've completely fallen out since they got tied to Temp(even though Temp played it clean and never actually rigged for either of them, and the bulk of the RPing was before he was in power).

NSA has basically destroyed Wuya and Shirley, they will never eat lunch in this town again. Numnuts and Dominos ruined Chris and Alastor. Temp ruined Dan and Wilkins. Just the association changes the way people vote
No.138518
Anonymous
>>138516
I don't disagree with you, but i've seen that shit used to justify BS reforms by anons who might have been NSA in a trenchcoat
No.138519
Anonymous
>>138513
>2024 should be a straight up reversion to 2019-2021 ruleset
No, people should vote because that's the logical thing to do.
No.138520
Anonymous
Replies:>>138522>>138523>>138524>>138525>>138527
How many people would be unboard for this? NO FUCKING REPLIES WITH MORE THAN ONE WORD. I want "TopKek", "Sage", or "Meh", good and proper like ya hear? Good and proper.

"Would you be fine with 2024 locking in the 2019-2021 StatsAnon era rule set and reverting all changes made after his disappearance, with the caveat that from 2025 onward they COULD unlocked and open to fair negotiation with anons in an open and free poll and discussion, if the demand was there?"
No.138521
Anonymous
Replies:>>138531>>138588
>>138514
>This just sounds like you want your pick to have a free win by doing nothing.
That's pretty much what this entire argument boils down to. Fans of popular picks want to have the seeded bracket to give their favourites free rounds while fans of bottom seeds want randomized to give their favs a fighting chance instead of getting set to lose immediately.
No.138522
Anonymous
>>138520
You'reRetarded.
No.138523
Anonymous
>>138520
topkek
No.138524
Anonymous
>>138520
Fuck off, NSA was a good host who made one fuckup with Wuya.
No.138525
Anonymous
>>138520
top kek, then meh.
No.138526
Anonymous
If your character is bottom seeded, then they deserve to lose. Simple as.
No.138527
Anonymous
>>138520
No
No.138528
Anonymous
Replies:>>138688
Image:172005632147.jpg(585kB, 1812x549)NSAnon.jpg
To go back to the more fun "JJJ got the pictures' side of mocking NSA for just one moment as the thread implodes-

Cheesecake got that sex-dar harder than JFK.
She knew. She could tell naughty host NSA wasn't quite the man he said he was.
No.138529
Anonymous
Replies:>>138530>>138534
>>138514
The qualifiers round wasn't just there to divide between those who qualified and those who didn't, but it also functioned as a competition for ranking inside the top 128. When some of my characters are guaranteed to get in, I (and most people really) am not as likely to campaign as hard for them during the round, compared to a seeded bracket where I know the placement of my character can depend on my efforts. After all, while campaigning is partly done for fun, it also has a primary purpose in convincing others to vote for my characters.

I'm actually quite impartial towards randomized seeding, but I'm not going to ignore some of the faults I find in it.
No.138530
Anonymous
>>138529
This.
They both do absolutely have pros and cons, but it's a pretty mixed bag. So in that case I'm leaning *away* from the mixed bag given to me by a piece of shit lying bitchhost. Stats gave us a mixed bag that worked, those were the most functional least catastrophic years
No.138531
Anonymous
Replies:>>138533
>>138521
I'm not even a "fan of bottom seeds", I just think things being fair for every contestant is, well, fair.
Seeding works in tournaments that are of skill, since it depends on skill; it's fair. These aren't that, these are tournaments of votes, based on both general and earned popularity. It only makes sense to have it be randomized as it makes things more equal, makes it fair.
No.138532
Anonymous
Replies:>>138535>>138540
Image:172005654209.jpg(147kB, 798x738)tumblr_86398607aff413d6f47488a4635b9172_8fc63dab_1280.jpg
2024 should revert to 2021 ruleset, but keep the voting link at the OC anchor and have people vote on randomized brackets
No.138533
Anonymous
Replies:>>138540
>>138531
Oh I don't care about popular girls. FARTS had their worst year ever in 2021 while seeded brackets were still a thing, it hardly guarantees anything. Toph lost right at the start.

I want Seeded because it was what Stats Anon had, and I hate Randomized because NSA added it and I hate everything they stand for and everything they've done.

We are not the same
No.138534
Anonymous
>>138529
>I (and most people really) am not as likely to campaign as hard for them during the round
Then do you truly care about the character if you aren't willing to post them? If I care about a pick, I'm going to support them, whether they are a top seed, middle seed, bottom seed or even don't qualify.
No.138535
Anonymous
Replies:>>138545
>>138532
That's like half the rules changes. Two of the most wide reaching ones in fact.

The former killed the Silent Majority, which makes rigging easier and makes girls more vunerable to falseflag shocks like the TransSpammer who killed ENA's campaign. And 2021 was BEFORE the rules change, it proved that the idea the Silent Majority were going to make the same girls always win was BS. FARTS got demolished. 2020, Miss Monarch won thanks to threads. It still matters, it's just a bit of buffer ground against psychotic meta posting that makes it harder to exploit. We need those guys.

The latter makes rigging easier to do and easier to hide, hurts Top 20 seeds, leaves mid-seeds vunerable to bad luck screwing them over, and by it's nature rewards the girls who the fewest people want in the first place. People wonder why OC production tanked last year or two....

I repeat. Big seeds have the most fans. Small seeds have the fewest fans. By trying to make things fair you're going to drive away OC makers and kill interest. Equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Toph in 2021 proved it's not everything. Trying to stack the deck for low tiers makes everything else worse.
No.138536
Anonymous
Replies:>>138539>>138543>>138585
Recette (#113) and Alipheese (#117) won and got their E8 placements during non-randomized years btw. Low seeds absolutely can have a fighting chance in a traditional bracket.
No.138537
Anonymous
>>138513
>2024 should be a straight up reversion to 2019-2021 ruleset, no negotiations, because all the changes were made by corrupt leadership with unmonitored polls. We need a clean year just to reset the base, otherwise we're just letting NSA bruteforce her BS into being permanent.
>Now, in 2025 if you want do a limited vote on one or two things, sure. But we need time for things to settle, and for anons to actually get a fresh taste of the before times.

This is the least bad bad idea in the thread.
No.138539
Anonymous
Replies:>>138591
>>138536
And the reverse. FARTS overall did pretty poorly in 2021 outside of Raven, but Toph fucking collapsed at the starting line.

They're not invincible. That's not to say I'm trying to overcorrect and argue the E8 is dumb. It builds status, it's tradition, and Mr. /co/ has shown that there IS absolutely a core of consistent good preformers who could use a year off.

I find it funny how many people are both argueing for the E8 to be dropped because returnees 'don't happen anymore' and 'they never win anymore anyway', then in the next breath say how their girl at 127 needs to be protected from the big scary top seeds who smash everything in their path. Which is it Abe? Better keep your story straight
No.138540
Anonymous
>>138532
I think the voting link should be its own post instead of being put on the OC anchor because it resulted in a lot of non-OC posts replying to it, might be a bit better.

>>138533
Hating that retard is one thing, it doesn't mean it should cloud your judgement.
No.138541
Anonymous
Replies:>>138542>>138545>>138551
Yeah the more I take a step back the more I realize NSA's reforms were all designed to weaken the actual popularity side of things and turn this into a meta thread based vote, a meta thread based vote that NSA was in a strong position to manipulate, influence, or use to mask general rigging.

>Moving the OC link killed the silent majority, boardies who just pop in to vote their favs and leave, reducing overall vote talllies which makes rigging easier and making girls more dependant on the threads making them more vunerable to a bad falseflag or one anon spamming shit to ruin them

>Randomizng the bracket hurt the most popular and well supported kills, killed any reason to campaign in the Qualifiers outside of extreme niche girls, and has lead to the trend of massive OC drop offs a couple rounds in as all the well liked girls kill eachother and a bunch of no nothings move further. People have been complaining about bad E8s for two years now.

>No longer showing the forms and documents allows corruption and rigging to be 100% unchecked and uncontrolled.

>Losers Bracket was NSA's pet project she was outed as pushing under different names and just lead to her wasting time and anons getting distracted by that and less attention being put on the main girls. This also further divides resources, more art and time spent on girls the bulk of anons don't care about, less OC, more drop-off.

NSA is a fucking cancer on these tourneys, she's changed so many things for the worse and people are hesistant to undo it all.
No.138542
Anonymous
>>138541
Here's why I support undoing them, besides the simple fact NSA pushed them all undemocratically and fruit of the poisoned tree and I want to see her suffer.

>The Silent Majority is basically anti-rigging insurance and anti-falseflag insurance. They're voting for their favourite girl just like we all did in 2018. We need them.

>Seeded Brackets ensures the girls that the most people like don't all immediately fight eachother and cause a ton of anons to leave early. Spreading them out gives them all time to thrive, and they've NEVER all made it. Underdogs arrise organically without rule changes, see 2021 and to a lesser extent 2020.

>Forms and Documents should be shown to make sure nothing fucky happened. Simple

>Losers Bracket should not be an official thing. If anons wanna larp fine, but it diverts resources from what the bulk of anons like to make yet another loud minority happy at the cost of less OC for people most anons care about. Also it was NSA's personal project she pushed, fuck her she doesn't deserve to keep it.
No.138543
Anonymous
Replies:>>138544
>>138536
As I said, qualifier votes aren't a good representation of support, 100 people voting for a character in the qualifiers could be the only people voting for that character. Still, "CAN have a fighting chance" doesn't mean "have a fighting chance".
I imagine people didn't vote Alipheese as much in the qualifiers due to only having a name and not a picture attached.
No.138544
Anonymous
>>138543
I should note the sample size isn't great, 2018 and 2019 were early years and 100% popularity contests, and 2020 was the first year campaigning took off and a lot of heavy hitters were out that year.

But 2021 shows the top seeds aren't invincible and low seeded underdogs can thrive. Support for randomized actually dropped off really hard in 2021, only to mysterious spike again and then get rushed through a quick poll buried in the thread to be approved. It was never majority supported in a Pre-NSA year and anything an anon said after that cannot be trusted
No.138545
Anonymous
Replies:>>138555>>138562>>138567
Image:172005926027.jpg(197kB, 1280x720)1533482961145.jpg
>>138535
>>138541
i think the silent majority sucks
No.138546
Anonymous
>>138492
Just return to 2019 rules.
No.138547
Anonymous
>>138492
Just remove rules.
No.138548
Anonymous
Image:172006257109.gif(1.12MB, 600x531)A82DFECB-68B9-469B-B3BC-D508A54AAAB7.gif
>>138492
>stupid E8 rules
and ignored, we're not doing a /v/ here
No.138549
Anonymous
Replies:>>138550>>138553>>138554>>138572
What the fuck is going on where /tnt/ of all places is SUPPORTING the silent majority just out of NSA spite
You can hate NSA without going full retard
No.138550
Anonymous
>>138549
I support both
No.138551
Anonymous
>>138541
I’ve been saying that for a while. In fact it was kind of obvious when NSA stated outright last ms. /co/ the purpose of tourneys was OC and discovering new shows.
No.138552
Anonymous
Image:172006479874.png(145kB, 655x480)1707501740365875.png
I've been in the tourneys for years and I still have no clue what this Fusefag deal is
No.138553
Anonymous
>>138549
NSA and the silent majority are my HEROES. The more they're involved the better.
No.138554
Anonymous
>>138549
Well for one thing they're literally more pure to the original 2018 tournament then the rest of us. They pick girl they like, they vote. Based.

Secondly /tnt/ is basically composed of specifically the RPer and Larper class who initially followed Tag Team here and then brought the rest here. We're like 1/12th of the total voterbase and a ton of the rest don't agree with us on anything. 70% of voters never even look at the threads circa 2021.

And thirdly they're insurance against one falseflagger or spammer fucking over a girl by turning the thread against them.
No.138555
Anonymous
>>138545
>ignore the threads
>ignore the memes
>just vote for best girl
BASED! BILLIONS MUST THRIVE
No.138556
Anonymous
Replies:>>138564
The people complaining about the Silent Majority are the people who want the tournaments to be decided by RPing and OC and storylines. Not the majority, just a loud minority. Pluschan just happens to be full of that loud minority.

NSA and some people in her circle want OC to drive the tournament. We've seen all the problems that causes, it drives people away. The tournament is supposed to drive the OC.

Let the fucking popular girls do well instead of changing the rules to screw them over, if that many people like them maybe we'll get some fucking art and everyone won't leave in R3 because everyone they care about is out.

The Losers Bracket is literally an NSA scheme so he can RP as his loser girls and force everyone else to participate. You've been baited into ERPing with a tiktok girl who doesn't even show tits.

Silent Majority is the reason the earlier years weren't hyper reactionary and constantly getting new lead girls who would then immediately lose. They're a stabilzing factor and the only anons who have a problem are the thread junkies who RP. Why the fuck don't they get a vote? Burying the link in the threads just makes it swayable to whatever drama is being setup in the threads, NSA was already using sockpuppets he probably arranged a scandal or too. Harder with those base votes.
No.138559
Anonymous
Replies:>>138560>>138595>>138597
I just see tournaments as a chance to celebrate the medium you like, and the tournaments are a vassal to celebrate a thing the most. Whether you celebrate it by art, roleplaying, videos, discussion, etc.
Silentfagging is hated because it's seen as a passive stance, like you aren't proactively praising this thing you just have moderate familiarity with it. Something getting by without a ton of fanfare is not inherently a bad thing. Sometimes, something doesn't need crazy spectacle to be loved. Maybe the artists that would've drawn were preoccupied, or maybe you just didn't notice the support they did get. But it can feel like a pretty lame "celebration" when something gets to the elite 8 with very little positive thread presence. It can feel like your celebration, your joy didn't count. Maybe you just gotta suck it up and accept a tournament on 4chan can only go so well.
Maybe this is the discrepancy between Ms. and Mr /co/. Mr. /co/ is just people goofing around with cartoons they like and having fun with it. Ms /co/ hardly anybody gives a shit about the cartoons itself and just wants to hype up their personal waifu more. Look at how assblasted people STILL get over people hyping the Primal dino.
No.138560
Anonymous
>>138559
>assblasted
If you mean understandably giving criticism, sure.
No.138561
Anonymous
Replies:>>138565
>>138497
I vote we give all the wins from the NSA tourneys to the 2nd places instead.
No.138562
Anonymous
>>138545
Assuming the silent majority exists and wasn't just NSA controlling a hologram behind a curtain.
No.138563
Anonymous
Replies:>>138820
>>138517
>NSA has basically destroyed Wuya and Shirley, they will never eat lunch in this town again. Numnuts and Dominos ruined Chris and Alastor. Temp ruined Dan and Wilkins. Just the association changes the way people vote
Well Wuya already "won" so what are we gonna do with her?
No.138564
Anonymous
Replies:>>138566>>138568>>138570>>138571
>>138556
>The people complaining about the Silent Majority are the people who want the tournaments to be decided by RPing and OC and storylines. Not the majority, just a loud minority. Pluschan just happens to be full of that loud minority.
We should have a tournament based solely on how well a character's RP is.
No.138565
Anonymous
Replies:>>138573>>138575>>138617
Image:172006943979.jpg(85kB, 1170x1455)1714536408444862.jpg
>>138561
>Carl Wins
>Zim Wins
>Eris Wins
>Shirley Wins
>Eggman Double Wins
No.138566
Anonymous
Replies:>>138577
>>138564
That's literally just King /v/, but that's a different thread subject
No.138567
Anonymous
Image:172007052016.jpg(16kB, 247x204)download (4).jpeg
>>138545
...
No.138568
Anonymous
>>138564
Heroes of /co/, it's why we got an /a/ character in the E8.
No.138569
Anonymous
>>138478
>arguing against someone who openly admits to being a rigger
No.138570
Anonymous
Image:172007320681.jpg(39kB, 498x441)e05.jpg
>>138564
Anon...
No.138571
Anonymous
>>138564
Isn't that...kinda what this board is for?

And /co/ is for the actual popularity contest....
No.138572
Anonymous
Replies:>>138673
>>138549
I've never had the knee-jerk disdain for the silent majority. It's a funny meme but it's silly to actually take it seriously. Outside of brigaders (which are still a problem regardless of where you put the link), the voters are users of the board whose opinions on which character they prefer out of any two is still valid. All the micromanaging and rulefagging done to try to disenfranchise them has always seemed odd to me. I get wanting constant content creation, but I don't think a tournament based on a person choosing their preferred character will always select for that naturally, and I've always been fine with that. The relentless desire to defy what is a natural potential result is what leads to NSA types who want very insular, very tightly-controlled reflections of their own interests.
No.138573
Anonymous
Replies:>>138578
>>138565
>based
>meh
>meh
>meh
>double bueno
No.138574
Anonymous
Replies:>>138576
I think ideally a (main board) tourney is a representation of board taste, and the winner like a collective mascot that joins a pantheon of representatives. In that regard I think the “silent majority” IS is a necessity and all the rulefagging to mitigate it kind of gay. Campaigning is like the flavor of the tourney and a way for some anons to express why their character is cool and good, and provides a boost to characters that are to some degree already in good disposition or potential good disposition with the board. At best it can bring attention to an agreeably cool and good character that was overlooked for various reasons. It should not become the main reason for voting or override a basic “I prefer x over y character” feelings to a large degree. Basically it’s a mild sway for those following the threads.
No.138575
Anonymous
>>138565
Zim will still be 2nd just to fuck with NSA
No.138576
Anonymous
>>138574
Pretty on-point.
No.138577
Anonymous
>>138566
There's room to complain about recent trends seen in King of /v/, but I don't think even half of it can be pinned down to campaiging playing too much importance in determining results. 2022 was kind of controversial for the opposite.
No.138578
Anonymous
>>138573
Best usage of the filter I've ever seen
No.138579
Anonymous
Replies:>>138581>>138592>>138621
This is completely unrelated to the current discussion but am I the only one who’s annoyed about the fact that people will never stop talking about Fang for the rest of this tournament’s existence? I don’t particularly care about Fang or Primal one way or the other (I saw 2 episodes of the show, thought it was fun and then tuned out because I wasn’t that interested in it), all I see her as is an unconventional and somewhat funposty winner but because of how fucked up her win there’s always gonna be people who won’t shut up about her, can’t there be more discussion about the other winners instead of another conversation about Fang that’ll go nowhere, we have six of them, surely the other girls could be talked about more for a change.
No.138581
Anonymous
>>138579
Nothing to talk about for the other girls. Jenny is perfect, everyone is mediocre, done. Nothing else could be added.
No.138585
Anonymous
Replies:>>138587>>138594
>>138536
This shit again?
Bringing up these examples is blatant survivorship bias. Just because a handful of underdog campaigns succeeded doesn't cancel out dozens more that lost among the way.
No.138587
Anonymous
Replies:>>138590>>138674
>>138585
>A few very low seeds can make a deep run over the years bu usually the most popular characters make it on their own merit
Yeah? That's very normal
You aren't entitled to a win because you spammed some roleplay text over a few threads
No.138588
Anonymous
Replies:>>138589
>>138521
If you need a handicap to win a round by being against another shitter round 1 to "build momentum" you are not deserving of a /co/ crown
Get a better seed and perform better by buliding up over the years. No one will respect you if you just do an OP and beat 100 seeds
No.138589
Anonymous
>>138588
I agree, top seeds don't deserve to win.
No.138590
Anonymous
Replies:>>138598>>138674
>>138587
So it all once again comes back to you wanting top seeds to have an advantage.
No.138591
Anonymous
>>138492
>>138539
It's almost like it's different people saying these things. The guy above advocating against E8 was also advocating against randomized.
No.138592
Anonymous
>>138579
fang is cool dinosaur
No.138593
Anonymous
Replies:>>138596
>>138513
>NSA is still around lurking and occasionally trying to regain power and she has more loyalists than Temp ever did.
Sometimes I wonder if some of you people just live in your own reality.
No.138594
Anonymous
>>138585
It's proof low seeds can rank high and outright win in a traditional bracket, and viceversa for high seeds.
No.138595
Anonymous
Replies:>>138599>>138679
>>138559
>Look at how assblasted people STILL get over people hyping the Primal dino
Fang just proves that /tnt/ doesn’t actually care about how much you contribute to the tournament, they just want their girl to win and will get pissy if someone else does. This place preaches about OC creation but will discount that factor if they don’t like you, even if you literally have the most OC in /co/ tourney history.
No.138596
Anonymous
Replies:>>138675
>>138593
Not him, but NSA could very well still be lurking. It might as well not mean much but if you bother to take a look she has kept referencing Ms. /co/ in her DA posts made after she got ousted.
No.138597
Anonymous
>>138559
> the tournaments are a vassal
Ok Bejitabro
No.138598
Anonymous
Replies:>>138603
>>138590
They have an advantage because they are typical the most known, popular, and liked of /co/ characters. There's a reason the top seeds are always characters like Samurai Jack, Daffy, Courage, Hank Hill and similar. They aren't getting top seeds by luck or roleplay or whatever else, they are the most popular characters to the board.
They are always going to perform far. They have a natural advantage regardless, and performing in qualifier polls should place them against opponents that match how they qualified. They should not be punished with having Daffy vs Courage first round because you want to have your 127th seed Sonichu get an easy round one up to round three since "my roleplay deserves it" and you want to artificially force them into deep runs like Livesey was forced into without proofing why they should.
Many characters made meteoric rises during the seeded years due to memorable performance, and that's because of warm reception during their one or so rounds of tournaments performed greatly in the next several years. They were not entitled to winning now because you're entitled and self-centered how only your character matters and you leave when they lose.
No.138599
Anonymous
>>138595
Of course I want characters I like to have OC, this is a character tournament. No matter how much high quality OC someone like Fang or Anne has, I still won't like them.
No.138603
Anonymous
Replies:>>138618>>138681
>>138598
>They have a natural advantage regardless
So then it makes sense that we should have something to mitigate this advantage to make things fair, rather than give them more advantages just cuz.
No.138609
Anonymous
Replies:>>138613>>138615
Image:172010260584.jpg(50kB, 1280x720)EGGS.jpg
>silentfag vs. campaign debate
>it turns into "you just hate popular characters" shitflinging
i don't give a shit who wins, i just want people to engage with the threads. the problem isn't that underdogs are losing to higher seeds, it's that the people voting for those higher seeds do all of jack and shit to stimulate discussion.
No.138613
Anonymous
Replies:>>138619
>>138609
I think this entire debate was kickstarted by like two or three autists, one of which is clearly Temp.
No.138615
Anonymous
Replies:>>138624
>>138609
Thread engagement isn’t the ultimate purpose. At the end of the day it’s about the board and it’s preference. This argument of purpose is where the disagreement lies. And personally I’m still gonna go with a character I like more than one with a lot of campaigning. NSA, unironically, was a host geared towards bolstering thread engagement. I’d rather tourneys keep as neutral as possible on this, even if it angers some tourneyhead autists who say everything’s ruined and the threads must turn to shit when their campaigned centric picks lose.
No.138617
Anonymous
>>138565
Actually Chel would win.
No.138618
Anonymous
Replies:>>138731
>>138603
That's the opposite of being fair, it's a direct effort in handicapping popular characters.
No.138619
Anonymous
>>138613
Anon, the total population of /tnt/ is a baker's dozen.
No.138621
Anonymous
>>138579
I do not care about Fang either, pretty much completely meh on her. I think she was easily preferable over Shirley but too memey and the year too controversial for me to think of as a good straightforward winner.
No.138622
Anonymous
Replies:>>138623
Image:172010888577.jpg(555kB, 1242x905)C69394E8-930D-48D1-845B-CC0CC0ED6FAB.jpeg
G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-GUYS you said Squidward was shit and dead r-r-r-r-r-right? if that's true THEN WHO'S THAT!!?!?!??!??!??!?!!?
No.138623
Anonymous
>>138622
Squidward has achieved Gear 5.
No.138624
Anonymous
Replies:>>138626>>138627
>>138615
> And personally I’m still gonna go with a character I like more than one with a lot of campaigning.
I DON'T
FUCKING
CARE
WHO YOU VOTE FOR
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS AN ISSUE OF WHO YOU VOTE FOR
THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE
No.138626
Anonymous
Image:172011174662.jpg(691kB, 1605x1689)1703839255415165.jpg
>>138624
>And personally I’m still gonna go with a character I like more than one with a lot of campaigning.
Imagine someone saying THIS being the statement that makes a /tnt/ anon have a full-blown freakout, anon....
No.138627
Anonymous
Replies:>>138664
>>138624
It is though, apparently. You mention your problem is high seeds voted that aren’t doing anything. It comes around basically to favoring characters that “stimulate discussion” doesn’t it?
No.138630
Anonymous
Damn, Spinel must be the best winner ever since she generates so much discussion
No.138631
Anonymous
Replies:>>138640
Image:172011452523.jpg(38kB, 692x605)1669701588869346.jpg
>if your character isn't a popular underdog top seed with constant thread presence and a million drawings but no solo campaigning and I can jerk off to them and they have both the silent majority and the vocal minority by their side and they had a bracket that I arbitrarily deem good then they're SHIT! SHIT!
No.138637
Anonymous
Replies:>>138639>>138641>>138648
Image:172011807306.gif(3.77MB, 297x410)spotted by nft monkey.gif
ENOUGH
All this discussion about what percentage of impact x meta factor will have on y subset of characters is POINTLESS because it's obvious that Bored Ape #4988 Bored Ape #9055 will win Ms. and Mr. /co/, and when they do /co/ will be added to the blockchain
No.138639
Anonymous
Replies:>>138641
>>138637
>NFTs
/tnt/ is a goldchad board, get that fake and gay garbage off of here
No.138640
Anonymous
>>138631
This but unironically
No.138641
Anonymous
>>138637
>>138639
Didn’t an NFT ape get last place in Heroes of /co/?
No.138648
Anonymous
Replies:>>138656
Image:172012047694.jpg(84kB, 1080x604)619853DB-0399-42CA-985E-22D9B79AA8F5.jpeg
>>138637
>Shit Monkeys
the only NFT that matters is the Happy Tree Friends one
No.138656
Anonymous
>>138648
Genuinely what were Mondo Media thinking
No.138659
Anonymous
Replies:>>138661>>138670>>138672>>138759
While we still can, I decided to check the number of OC each /co/ winner got on the booru outside of tournaments, just on /co/ activity alone.

>Jenny: 1042
>Spinel: 124
>Dr. Mrs. The Monarch: 53
>Betty: 71
>Fang: 53
>Wuya: 116

Yeah, you can kinda see why Jenny is hailed as the best board queen. What's surprising is that Fang is tied with Monarch for last place. I guess that shows how much of her OC output was a result of FOTM lightning-in-a-bottle scenario where her show just happened to be airing during the tournament and that generated hype at the moment, but not long enough for many more drawfags to take interest in her long-term.
No.138660
Anonymous
Replies:>>138663
Now the guys.

>Johnny: 183
>Kronk: 11
>Tom: 35
>Grievous: 37
>Zorak: 8
>Skeletor: 54

...yeah, perhaps unsurprisingly, most of the drawfags are coomers so guys don't get nearly as much attention. Although it's notable that Johnny still technically has more OC than any of the second-and-onwards year Ms. winners.
No.138661
Anonymous
>>138659
I think that has less to do with long term interest and more with the fact Fang is not, err, a waifu like the rest are.
No.138663
Anonymous
>>138660
Johnny's tag having more OC is due to two reasons
>coomers drawing his genderbent
>people using his tag for the series itself
No.138664
Anonymous
Replies:>>138665
>>138627
>It is though, apparently.
no. it isn't. stop being stupid on purpose.
No.138665
Anonymous
Replies:>>138666
>>138664
I just told you why your comment is.
FAGTARD
No.138666
Anonymous
Replies:>>138680
Image:172013150223.jpg(33kB, 598x489)SILENCE.jpg
>>138665
you are wrong
No.138670
Anonymous
>>138659
I love Fang and I love Primal but there isn't a whole lot of story to discuss in a silent cartoon. You're getting beautifully animated hyperviolence and action in Primal. If you like that, Fang is great and if you don't, then she stinks.
No.138672
Anonymous
>>138659
/co/ booru is almost entirely waifu hornyposting, you can see also with how little really beloved toon guys get, and who waifus the dinosaur without any irony?
No.138673
Anonymous
>>138572
This. Turbofranchising the RP and Hardcore OC factions and disenfranchising everyone else kind of ruins the point of the tournaments, and kills interest which hurts OC anyway.

And that's not getting into the fact that smaller tournaments are by definition easier to tamper with without raising red flags
No.138674
Anonymous
Image:172013956685.png(1.31MB, 2273x1193)TQS Blank.png
>>138587
Yeah. I love the Teen Qualifier Squad and hope they can continue to poke around, but the fact that these sorts have dominated the qualifiers since 2022 is a symptom of how bad the bracket reforms are hurting mainline OC. None of the big girls have any desire to fight for top seeds anymore

>>138590
They are the most popular.
They have the advantage in this popularity contest because they have the most fans.
What the fuck do you want, because it sure as shit isn't Miss /co/? The whole point of this discussion is to find the best way to make this Ms. /co/ again and not "NSA and Friend's OC-RP Party(very legitimate)"
No.138675
Anonymous
Replies:>>138676>>138732
>>138596
Unless they're banned or otherwise threatened into leaving we can't be sure.

Fusefag is safely gone because he was doxxed and 4chan proper gave him multiple lifetime bans until he ran out of alts.

Temp got permabanned and generally got pretty defeatist in his final months. He could come back, but he burned through whatever loyalists he had in that failed coup and he's too demotivated to pull anything.

NSA is more like Numnuts except a lot better at holding in her autism and playing it quiet and calm. And Numnuts snuck back into power TWICE despite his constant borderline episodes, NSA absolutely could.

You wanna know the simplest, best reason for a hard rule reset no negociation(that year) to the 2019-2021 rules? It'll confirm with no uncertainity that the current leadership isn't a toadie at best or NSA's prepared in advance ALT at worst.
No.138676
Anonymous
>>138675
Temp still posts here and has posted in this thread, anon.
No.138679
Anonymous
Replies:>>138683>>138684
>>138595
This is something Temp got right. He was saying for over a year that /tnt/(or maybe this was pre-tnt when we were on the cartoon board here?) was developing it's own culture more focused on RPing and telling a story rather than the traditional popularity contest, and that it was going to cause trouble when people from that enviroment ran a tournament on /co/. That's half of why he kept trying to force Tag Team back on /co/, he wanted to breakup the pluschan cliques he didn't trust(that and his seething desire to punish fusefag).

Temp was an emotional wreck who didn't think his actions through, he was terrible at project managment, and he acted without thinking constantly and then pinned the blame on the like two people who asked. Bad host. But most of his theories about the PlusChan crew ultimately diverging from the main board and making choices that benefited themselves came true. He was also right to not trust NSA or Numnuts at all.

NSA was even worse than that because it went from misguided to malicious as the leaks revealed. NSA wasn't just mishandling the operation, she was actively strongarming new changes in bogus polls and then sabotaging girls she didn't like.

Forget this board for a second, look at the actual discourse on /co/. Pluschan is increasingly being spoken of in the same breathe as Peruvian Facebook, they don't like us and they don't trust, and NSA just validated those fears harder than Biden last week.

We've been making choices we like for 2 years and it's cost us. Ideally we'd get a host from /co/ again like Stats who's more neutral overall, but for now we need to act fast, or that trust is gone forever, and /co/ will continue to drop out and abandon the tournament.

Revert back to 2020 rules. Immediately. Anything else is going to be shot down by the silent majority as more fucking tampering or 'meet the old boss, same as the new boss', or at minimum potray us as unwilling to fix problems. There's undeniable proof NSA rigged the two polls he did run, one was in the middle of a thread on a random ass site zero verification and he paused it when he was barely ahead. and the other was on a closed form with zero ability to verify. Heck, some of those changes(namely hiding forms) never even got a poll he just did them.

This isn't about whether or not you personally like them, they are fruit of the poisoned tree and need to be all tossed out. There WILL be room to discuss reform in the future if the desire is there(though it should always come bottom up, not top down), but 2024 needs to be hardlocked to the old rules with no room for budging, or we WILL lose people, and NSA will continue to pull shit to try to make it permanent. Numnuts/Tourney came back twice successfully and almost came back a fourth time. Temp came back twice and almost came back a 4th AND 5th time. NSA's been ousted once. Don't assume she's not looking back and eyeing up things. Do not trust the anons.
No.138680
Anonymous
>>138666
Bejitabro btw
No.138681
Anonymous
>>138603
THIS IS A FUCKING POPULARITY CONTEST YOU UTTER MORON. YOU ARE BY DEFINITION ATTACKING THE MAJORITY BY HANDICAPPING THEIR FAVORITES.

/CO/ AT LARGE HATES US. YOU ARE NOT HELPING.
No.138683
Anonymous
Replies:>>138685>>138686
>>138679
Temp was not the first to think of that shit. Pretty sure I was saying it before his tag team attempt.
Also why so little faith in the new hosts?
No.138684
Anonymous
>>138679
>2024 needs to be hardlocked to the old rules with no room for budging, or we WILL lose people, and NSA will continue to pull shit to try to make it permanent.

This. Regardless of what you think of the changes, NSA was the one who pushed them, and they cannot be trusted to have done so in good faith or even with an actual mandate.

They need to be undone, at least for a year or two. I also think we should limit reform after that to one change a year after that pause to prevent a single host from taking advantage of a crisis and pushing through their own agenda. NSA rode the tri-fecta of chaos from Stats vanishing, hyping up and overplaying the threat of the mods/jannies, and overplaying/hyping up the threat of Temp and the power of his 'loyalists'(though his half assed overthrow attempt played right into her hand and made things worse, Temp even admitted so in one of his last /co/ posts that he felt like Von Papen)
No.138685
Anonymous
>>138683
>Also why so little faith in the new hosts?
We got Temp, then Numnuts, then Domino, then NSA.

Track record ain't looking so good.
No.138686
Anonymous
Replies:>>138723
>>138683
Fairly certain it’s temp himself talking about himself again.
No.138687
Anonymous
Image:172014152555.png(300kB, 952x764)1567640778851.png
Go back to 2020 and 2021 rules.

Revive the Silent Majority and their bulwark, reopen transparent voter forms to prevent daylight fraud and rebuild trust, end randomized bracketing to stop gerrymandering and anti-populism, end the info logs so people aren't terrified of a mid-breakdown host doxxing them on the way out, and resume the swimsuit round.

2020 was the least drama filled, most fun, Ms. /co/ since 2018. 2019 was great at the time too(Basilanon didn't out Spinel til later) and that rigging only effected a couple girls like Raven and Frankie instead of literally everyone. This shit works.

2021 had it's problems, but it was largely blowback to the upper tiers getting cocky and not showing up. This year basically proved the high seeds weren't unstoppable or overly dominating, they can still lose if the board itself is bored of them and they don't win the swayable thread jockeys. The 2022 qualfiiers also showed the reverse wasn't true(The FARTS and SCK girls could do great when their fans pushed a bit and there wasn't an active backlash, the E8 still had a role. They just got robbed of an E8 spot, specifically Shego and Raven did, because NSA either allowed furry rigging he knew was going on and did nothing OR that was a lie and he just deleted votes to screw them over and made up the rigging.

The old rules worked fine, the biggest dramas in that era were caused by people who weren't even from /co/
No.138688
Anonymous
Replies:>>138698
>>138528
>To go back to the more fun "JJJ got the pictures' side of mocking NSA for just one moment as the thread implodes-
Where was Basil?
No.138690
Anonymous
Image:172014250317.jpg(38kB, 720x405)LHB.jpg
>everyone is so busy discussing no one will find out I helped Black Hat rigging the sheriff out
I'm such a smartass
No.138691
Anonymous
Replies:>>138692>>138697>>138704
Shut the fuck up already, we'll have a vote on the rules when Ms. comes.
No.138692
Anonymous
Replies:>>138693
>>138691
Why should they have to be voted out legitimately when they were never installed legitimately.

Axe them all immediately or it'll be a fight at bestor NSA will intervene at worst
No.138693
Anonymous
Replies:>>138694>>138696>>138697>>138704
>>138692
A couple of retards on off-site board shouldn't decide how the tournament is held, it should be decided by the people on the fucking board. If the majority wants rules changed in light of what happened with NSA, then they'll fucking vote for it.
No.138694
Anonymous
Replies:>>138700
>>138693
Just by the way momentum works that'll make it way harder to do and also just generally cause fights.

They were never put in by the people of the board. NSA rushed them in, two with bogus polls and the other two just because he said so. They should be thrown out because they weren't decided in the first place.

I agree with your first statement, just you're handling this backwards
No.138695
Anonymous
Replies:>>138703>>138735>>138761>>138827
I'll just say it:
The reason there is so much focus on /tnt/ to encourage campaigning/story culture as an influence in votes is because most of you don't browse /co/. Most of you are from /v/ or other boards on the website but like the idea of tournaments overall, regardless of topic, and participate regardless of topic which is part of the separate board culture. You do not really fans of any cartoon or comic content so a conventional tournament where the most popular and liked characters on the board bores you. You can't relate to the content the characters provide and hence can only relate to what you do know, which is the campaign that is presented to you directly in the threads. You let this make the decision because you can't truly compare characters on merit if you are either indifferent on all of them or are only aware of them through tournaments, while regular /co/ users know every single one who is on the bracket and the next 200 who didn't make it.
It's more of a way for outsiders to make sense and participate in long arcs they can be aware of and actively participate in tourneys for mediums they aren't usually engaged with.
No.138696
Anonymous
Replies:>>138700
>>138693
That's literally NSA's tactic. Break shit or do shit without asking and then force people to work together to get rid of it(which, this is 4chan, never happens).

She didn't ask "Oh, should we let all these girls get screwed over by rigged votes", she screwed them over and only said it after starting the next round and waiting the problem out.\

You do it that way, NSA can just use the alts she's admitted to having to storm the poll or sway discussion in the threads. Especially since like 35% of anons legitimately supported the reforms, she won't have to do much to swing it. Trust.No. Anon. Not any anon post-2021 and in 2021 reformers lost.
No.138697
Anonymous
>>138691
>>138693
...So anons are going to have to work together and vote out something they never even voted in?
No.138698
Anonymous
>>138688
in my pants
No.138700
Anonymous
Replies:>>138701>>138704>>138705>>138783
>>138694
>>138696
Ok, let's just stop having these tournaments then.
No.138701
Anonymous
>>138700
that's what NSA wants if she's not getting it back
No.138702
Anonymous
Replies:>>138706
You'd rather end the tournaments, completely, forever, then get rid of rules a confirmed liar and rigger forced through in an hour in a rigged poll(and in two cases with no poll)? That's the hill you want to die on...
No.138703
Anonymous
>>138695
i've been on /co/ and participating in tournaments since before this board existed and you're full of shit.
No.138704
Anonymous
Replies:>>138711
>>138691
>>138693
>>138700
Between the 'Shut the fuck up'(that specific phrasing and spelling and right at the start) and the 'End the tournaments if I don't get my way'('my way' lining up with what NSA wants) I'm starting to think this is NSAchan pulling her first Numnuts style fit
No.138705
Anonymous
>>138700
Kek like that would ever happen, people can't even give up shit like Tag-Team or /an/
Only way /co/ tournaments end is either mods ban it (which gets it moved here so it would still happen for a while), 4chan shuts down, internet is heavily restricted due to a major war, or the tournaments get known to a large outside audience to the point there's thousands of outside voters directed by bigger forces and there's no purpose (and that would get it banned regardless)
No.138706
Anonymous
Replies:>>138710>>138717
>>138702
The tournaments and its rules should be voted upon, hosts forcing things on everyone is gay and retarded.
>b-b-but NSA-
Shut up about that fag already, him doing just that doesn't mean the new hosts should do the same.
No.138707
Anonymous
Replies:>>138738>>138786
Image:172014560219.jpg(5kB, 250x121)jrking finner.jpg
Ladies and gentleman, it is my ding-dong diddly responsibility to let you know that NSA has lost her mind. NSA lost her mind over sexy tumblrmen, here tonight
>Hahaha that's right JR, NSA just tried to do her first Numnuts just like a kindergartner fighting with his classmate for the first time pffft hahaha
Yes king, NSA is indeed a seething bitch, and tonight will be remembered as one of the funniest moments in /tnt/ history!
No.138708
Anonymous
>him
No.138709
Anonymous
I want schizos like NSA and Numnuts to make out
No.138710
Anonymous
Replies:>>138713>>138716
Image:172014600227.jpg(27kB, 600x477)OSCUROllin.jpg
>>138706
>him
The pastebin. NOW.
No.138711
Anonymous
>>138704
>that specific phrasing
>of a phrase commonly said
_(:з)∠)_
>if I don't get my way
This isn't "MY" way, I want the majority's way. If the majority of people want to go back to the old rules, then great! (You) shouldn't decide how everything is handled.
No.138713
Anonymous
Replies:>>138714
>>138710
https://pastebin.com/
No.138714
Anonymous
Replies:>>138715
>>138713
>caresses your neck
No.138715
Anonymous
Replies:>>138717>>138718>>138721
>>138714
FAGjita btw
No.138716
Anonymous
Replies:>>138719
>>138710
https://lostmediawiki.com/NSA'S_Pastebin_(non-existent_4chan_Tournament_response_document;_2024)
No.138717
Anonymous
Replies:>>138718
>>138715
Meant for >>138706
No.138718
Anonymous
Replies:>>138720
>>138715
Meant for >>138717
No.138719
Anonymous
>>138716
This seems like a dumb idea past the initial joke.
No.138720
Anonymous
Replies:>>138721>>138724
>>138718
Meant for >>138718
No.138721
Anonymous
Replies:>>138724
>>138720
Meant for >>138715
No.138723
Anonymous
>>138686
I've never known Temp to be so eloquent or lucid.
No.138724
Anonymous
Replies:>>138725
>>138720
>>138721
>the anons proceeded to love each other
Shrek is love, Shrek is life
No.138725
Anonymous
Replies:>>138726>>138727
>>138724
>Shrit
lol
lmao
No.138726
Anonymous
Replies:>>138728
>>138725
ok bugs
No.138727
Anonymous
>>138725
>t. Farquaad
No.138728
Anonymous
>>138726
CHADquaad actually
No.138729
Anonymous
Replies:>>138730>>138733>>138739
Image:172014768001.jpg(734kB, 1633x1242)46701CD8-56F9-4263-9EFF-A6ACB5F185A9.jpeg
NSA was quite the terrible host but who's to say that the hosts after her wouldn't become just like her? remember NSA's first year was received positively and now she's the worst host since the one that rigged Captain America, if someone like her can fall from grace then her successor is doomed to follow the same fate
No.138730
Anonymous
>>138729
All tournaments are rigged
All hosts are riggers
It is what it is.
No.138731
Anonymous
Replies:>>138740
>>138618
>it's a direct effort in handicapping popular characters.
Which is fair, because they start out with an advantage to begin with.
If you're gonna insist underdogs can still shine in a seeded bracket, the same can be said for powerhouses in a randomized bracket. In fact, there are already more examples despite two years' worth of history.

Ms. 2023 was randomized, and Toph and Raven still made it to semi-finals. Frankie made it to Round 4.
Mr. 2022 and 2023 were randomized. Courage, Daffy, Hank and Jack still made it to the E8.
Queen 2022 and 2023 were randomized. Conventional powerhouses Maya, GLaDOS, Midna, Amaterasu, Curly, Bayonetta still made it to the E8, with two of them outright winning.
King 2022 and 2023 were randomized. Conventional powerhouses Phoenix Wright, Travis, AM, Eggman still made it to the E8.

Now what are some actual examples of powerhouses being crippled by a randomized bracket?
No.138732
Anonymous
>>138675
Temp, stop talking about yourself in third person.
No.138733
Anonymous
>>138729
That's the risk you run with anonymous tournaments where even the host is anonymous. It's inherent to concept and there's no guarantee ANY host so far has been totally honest. If you're uncomfortable with the risk of a duplicitous host, you're uncomfortable with tournaments, period. The best we can really do to mitigate it is demand transparency, within reason, and of course chase off known bad actors.

I also like that there are constant tournaments here on /tnt/. It's too exhausting for me to participate in all of them, but we get the chance to evaluate different hosts on competence and temperament, and if there's any place to learn from making a major fuckup, it's here where the stakes are lower. It doesn't necessarily guarantee a good host, but it at least weeds out the clowns.
No.138734
Anonymous
the best solution is to do what the 2nd Mrs /mlp/ 2022 tournament did and have all rounds be settled via GETS
No.138735
Anonymous
Replies:>>138737
>>138695
To be fair /tnt/ isn't the best resource for /co/ shit if they thought Shou Fu Kan was legitimately a worthy contender for "Hero of /co/".
No.138737
Anonymous
>>138735
I agree, Nostalgia Critic (my favorite cartoon character) should've been E8 instead.
No.138738
Anonymous
Replies:>>138741
Image:172015188894.jpg(416kB, 1812x549)in color!.jpg
>>138707
needs correcting and punishment
No.138739
Anonymous
>>138729
I will say that picking them from the /tnt/ pool has a 80% failure rate while picking them from /co/ only has a 33% failure rate.

Perhaps we need a less volatile base, tnt is not stable
No.138740
Anonymous
Replies:>>138742
>>138731
So at that point it's even on the character front. So let's look at that non-direct consequences.

Namely that Randomized Brackets can be utterly gerrymandered to hell and back and it's untraceable, seeded can't be
No.138741
Anonymous
>>138738
I was gonna ask why you keep using that one, but there are literally two anti-NSA comics.

Temp has like, 12. And I'd argue he's the less destructive of the two. (Does Numnuts have any aside from the one with the peanut head?)
No.138742
Anonymous
Replies:>>138743
>>138740
This, we can't make it easy to rig or we're screwed
No.138743
Anonymous
Replies:>>138744
>>138742
>we can't make it easy to rig
It's always easy to rig and it's always rigged.
No.138744
Anonymous
Replies:>>138745>>138748
>>138743
The fact the hosts only have 24 hours and anything else becomes suspicious means there is actually stuff we can do.

>Seeded Brackets to prevent gerrymandering
>Move to poll link back to bring back the Silent Majority, higher vote tallies mean harder to fuck with
>Avoid all the constant drama that drives people away, more people, higher vote tallies means harder to fuck with
>No more asking for peoples info and saving it, scares people away, more people means higher vote tallies you get the gist
>Open Forms and Posting the Results so people can look over it and check for anything obviously wrong
>Swimsuit Round returned, more people show up later on for the hot art, more voters means blah blah harder to rig

The more votes to tamper and the harder it is to do cleanly the more likely a host is to mess up and leave a smoking gun or fumble somehow like CapAnon did in 2018. The easier it is and the less transparency there is the more they can get away with.

That and proper vetting when we pick a host is the best we can ask for. I'd honestly try to talk Psyanon into taking the job.
No.138745
Anonymous
Replies:>>138746
>>138744
Literally none of this matters as people will still rig nonetheless.
No.138746
Anonymous
Replies:>>138747
>>138745
If you're talking hosts I just explained how that protects it, not enough time to do it right, cover your tracks, fabricate evidence, make the actual polls on time, make the new threads, and sleep/eat.

If you mean randos or off-siters that's a different discussion that's got different solutions than host corruption
No.138747
Anonymous
Replies:>>138753
>>138746
Rigging is so easy that there's definitely many different people rigging for different characters.
No.138748
Anonymous
>>138744
Don’t we have vetted hosts by now? Psy has never even hosted anything. Again, why you got such a poor opinion of how’s things will be with the current crew now?
No.138749
Anonymous
Replies:>>138752>>138754
The rules discussion is pretty interesting, but it really probably should be settled on the main site because like that one guy said, /tnt/ is getting too much contempt. It could have serious blowback where any artist that drew for here could get serious harassment thrown towards them or the hosts could get a bunch of shit
No.138752
Anonymous
>>138749
I don’t disagree with that, I just feel like the default should be reversion to 2021, forcing the anons to UNDO NSA’s bullshit isn’t going to win back any fsvor.

Just stat you’re taking things back to before NSA’s “hostile and illegitimate takeover and corruption of the tournaments and returning to the Managment system used by StatAnon”. Keep 2024 like that. Then in 2025 barring any massive NSA problems we can reopen the floor to discussion, no more than one rule change a year though to prevent another NSA from forcing through 4 or 5 changes in a year while everyone is distracted with something else (In her case drama involving rigging and then Temp’s coup).

Leaving NSA’s changes in as default is ignoring the constant complaints and massive evidence of fraud(and with some changes literally zero mandate at all) and putting the burden of proof on /co/ which is the last thing we need to rebuild relations. Toss NSA under the bus hard, toss out every change she made, act like Statsanon, and hope /co/ forgives us.

That’s my official host advice as a qualified sperg
No.138753
Anonymous
Image:172016154038.jpg(79kB, 470x352)RiggingInProcess.jpg
>>138747
*blink* I mean, yeah? NSA admitted finding an alternative and she probably put excuses in order to keep using the traditional method for rigging. We're still a few months away from Ms. /co/. If anyone wants to seek an alternative to Google Forms you'd do this place a great favor, but nothing guarantees the number of votes we've getting for each poll won't notably decrease after that.
No.138754
Anonymous
Replies:>>138756>>138762>>138777>>138791>>138794
Image:172016263258.jpg(264kB, 2048x1519)IMG_4954.jpeg
>>138749
Keeping in NSA’s changes or drawing them out is also going to tick off a lot of people who were calling out NSA in 2022 and felt like nobody listened to them as she forced in new rules super quick and purged votes on mass because people were distracted by Bimbo Temp’s bouncy pair of coups to notice the Reichstag Fire blazing. Those people left in bulk in 2023 and have been screaming I told you so since.

Those specific changes were not popular at all in the years we can trust. The two most popular topics in 2020 and 2021 were 256 contestants(broadly liked, but everyone agreed it was too much on the hosts, Stats even joked about it) and E8 reform which flip flopped hard (in 2020 people were advocating for permanent retirement just like for the winners since they feared the same dozen girls always winning, and in 2021 people pivoted hard to the opposite, getting rid of E8 breaks because they thought they’d all job, which then fell off later when Mr. /co/ showed they still got it, just reactionary).

Seeded Brackets were extremely fringe and I’ve found no evidence of broad support prior to 2022. Most people wanted the seeding fights in qualifiers and nominations.
Literally no one wanted their info recorded or the forms to not be shown, literally no one.(those two were not voted on, they were forced in alongside removing the swimsuit round pics).
Moving the link was the only one with any track record, but that was in 2020 specifically and Stats shot it down, not much in 2021.

Nothing NSA changed had broad support prior to 2022, and we cannot cite 2022 and 2023 because it’s been proven NSA had both alt accounts and would go off trip. Any anon could be NSA so those can all be thrown out. Some of these changes were never even voted on, and the ones that were even at the time drew massive corruption speculation with a couple anons noticing freak vote swings.

Keeping all that stuff in and forcing /co/ to manually undo them is a bad idea. Especially with participation numbers plummeting so hard last year, if NSA has as any alts as she claimed she could just rig the results, we’ve lost 70% of people compared to 2021 in 2023 and it may have dropped further since. 70% of anons never even got a fucking say in it because they left when NSA starting fucking with shit.

The only right thing to do is to revert fully to the StatsAnon era rules and lock them down for 2024 so NSA can’t immediately rally ALT accounts and ruin it or just astroturf the threads like she did by using Temp as a distraction last time.
Changes not put in place democratically by the majority of anons should not have to be removed democratically by the anons. That is the mistake of the Host role and it must thereby be corrected by the host role. NSA held that role, betrayed the trust, and did damage. The new host has that role, they must return to how the last trusted host did it, that being StatsAnon.

Do you know how /co/ would react if you announced all NSA era changes, restrictions, and rules were to be removed and we’d be returning to how 2020 handled it? People fucking hate NSA’s guts. 2030 Ms. /co/ is a solid contender for the most popular one. Everyone likes StatsAnon. They increasingly hate us and view us as not real /co:, we’re slowly becoming the next Peruvian Facebook group, listen to /co/ and fucking torch NSA, don’t give the twat an in.
No.138756
Anonymous
Replies:>>138758>>138762>>138777>>138791
Image:172016339140.jpg(287kB, 580x580)IMG_4955.jpeg
>>138754
allow me to clarify for the mouth breathers out there.

Removing legislation and changes that were put in illegimately, by rigged and extremely suspect polls, by shotgun reform, or just at the whim, all this at the whim of a host who’s a proven liar, ALT user, and rigger…removing it immediately is not wrong, it is not undemocratic, it is not unfair, because those changes were never installed fairly or democratically in the first place. They don’t belong there, they have no legitimate.

Meanwhile, leaving them in as default and forcing anons to vote them out IS illegitimate and wrong, as it implies they have an inherent right to be there and deserve the benefit of the doubt, putting the burden to prove their disworth on anons who never wanted them in the first place or boycotted the tournaments they got forced in during. It is shifting the burden of mandate from the wrong party to the wronged party, and that is truly unjust.

(Not to mention it leaves said new polls open to further manipulation and astroturfing, NSA is still at large and is still trying to maintain a semblance of control. There is nothing stopping her from doing this and to give her that chance is spitting in the face of every /co/ anon who’s been trying to kick her out for two years as she slowly destroyed the tournaments and drove hundreds of people away).
No.138758
Anonymous
>>138756
>They don’t belong there, they have no legitimate.
-legitimate right, mandate, or privilege. They have no basis for being there based on anything beyond the words of a single, unwell woman.”

Sorry sentence got cut off
No.138759
Anonymous
Image:172016660107.png(484kB, 800x1281)109843 - dr._mrs._the_monarch mapleet sheila venture_bros.png
>>138659
I would like to add for clarity, Dr. Mrs. The Monarch actually has more OC on the booru than Fang, Betty, and maybe Wuya and Spinel since she has several tags
The tags she uses are
>Dr._Mrs._The_Monarch: 53
>Dr._Girlfriend: 36
>Sheila: 90 (and before you ask yes they're all of venture bros sheila not a different one)
No.138761
Anonymous
Replies:>>138765
>>138695
I spent half of my childhood watching cartoons, most of the characters that appear in both tournaments are ones that I'm already familiar with, and the first board I started browsing was /co/, where the fuck is this "you're a /v/ tourneyhead" shit coming from?
No.138762
Anonymous
>>138754
>>138756
This anon put it best, there's no reason to be forced to vote out rules and changes that were forced on the tournament by a host who has proven herself to be completely unreliable and power hungry.
No.138765
Anonymous
Replies:>>138766>>138779
>>138761
silentfags don't actually have an argument so they keep trying to change the narrative to something that makes them look better
No.138766
Anonymous
>>138765
>Silentfags
>On /tnt/
Silentfags have no argument because they don't post at all lmao
No.138767
Anonymous
Replies:>>138769
Don't know about you guys but I want a furry girl to win this year. Doesn't even really matter who.
No.138769
Anonymous
Replies:>>138770
>>138767
Wishful thinking but I hope the Slappyfag shows up with his wacky drawings again and draws for Minerva too.
No.138770
Anonymous
Replies:>>138771>>138773
>>138769
>enters a thread
>makes poor but funny drawings of Slappy killing Jucika
>destroys Jucika's reputation forever
>doesn't elaborate and leaves
Bless him.
No.138771
Anonymous
>>138770
Anon, he never left.
No.138773
Anonymous
Replies:>>138781
>>138770
Mr Incredible’s fall from grace is funnier because halfway through his 2020 run /co/ collectively thought that voting for someone for being a buff guy like the previous two winners wasn’t such a good idea after all
No.138777
Anonymous
Replies:>>138791
>>138754
>>138756
Dangerously based.

(Oh and NSA’s actions drove hundreds of people away. Any poll conducted after that would be already predisposed to people willing to tolerate her to start with, not that they weren’t forged and forced anyway as several anons report to have seen. Trying to revote is just going to stop them from coming back)
No.138779
Anonymous
Replies:>>138782
>>138765
They outnumber you, it’s a popularity contest. Numbers win.
Problem?
No.138781
Anonymous
>>138773
Syndromebro btw forgot to mention that
No.138782
Anonymous
>>138779
case in point
No.138783
Anonymous
Replies:>>138784
>>138700
This but completely unironically with 0 irony
No.138784
Anonymous
>>138783
NSA go get laid
No.138786
Anonymous
Replies:>>138789
>>138401
Based. I would even give him a fifth J if he had a title to go with it.
>>138707
KWAB.
No.138787
Anonymous
Replies:>>138788
doesn't JJJ have a son that's a furry?
No.138788
Anonymous
Replies:>>138790
>>138787
It was the anon who made the Slappy drawings.
No.138789
Anonymous
Replies:>>138795
>>138786
I guess we could just say the full legal title, John Jonah Jameson Junior to be even more based
No.138790
Anonymous
>>138788
Skippy is Slappy's nephew
No.138791
Anonymous
Replies:>>138797>>138832
>>138754
>>138756
>>138777
The fact the main anon rallying against this pulled a ‘German 3/warm water port’ by calling NSA ‘him’ just makes me want this more.

NSA herself has a problem with it and is begging to put the new rules up for a vote. So, let’s not.
No.138794
Anonymous
Replies:>>138797>>138798
>>138754
It took me until she forced emails on forms to be recorded for me to finally snap against NSA, and I feel retarded for it taking that long with how bad Ms. /co/ 2022 was because of her decisions. On the topic of her rules, she does remove votes for them she disagrees with.  https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132933033/#132934399
No.138795
Anonymous
>>138789
How is he a Junior if he has a son?
No.138796
Anonymous
Temp, stop replying to yourself pretending to be different people.
No.138797
Anonymous
>>138794
>It took me until she forced emails on forms to be recorded for me to finally snap against NSA, and I feel retarded for it taking that long with how bad Ms. /co/ 2022 was because of her decisions. On the topic of her rules, she does remove votes for them she disagrees with. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/132933033/#132934399
Jesus H, how the fuck did we let this happen.

>>138791
I'm on board
No.138798
Anonymous
Replies:>>138800>>138825
>>138794
2022 was mostly bad because the outsider group was way too blatant with rigging a character who had zero tournament history into the finals, where it was really clear that character was their group's meme/mascot character
NSA's response was only part of what made that bad
No.138800
Anonymous
>>138798
Do we actually know, this outsider group exists though? Did Basilanon ever find anything?

Because after 2023 I'm thinking that was just a half assed excuse to axe some girls he didn't like, NSA's screwed several of them over again in 2023 like Raven or Shego
No.138801
Anonymous
Replies:>>138802>>138803>>138818>>138840>>138842
Image:172021422311.jpg(56kB, 770x430)photo 3.jpg
holy fuck when are we going to talk about something new and not repeat the same 3 topics over and over?
No.138802
Anonymous
Replies:>>138804
Image:172021438373.jpg(77kB, 1125x800)61b72abd6191854c8ae1fbcad937b6e6.jpg
>>138801
Sure
Who's your coom pick for this year, both contests
No.138803
Anonymous
Replies:>>138805>>138843
Image:172021492435.png(1.03MB, 1920x1080)IMG_1018.png
>>138801
Yeah, we can talk about terrible E8 members.
No.138804
Anonymous
Replies:>>138814
Image:172021504939.jpg(33kB, 600x300)e45.jpg
>>138802
every prior tournament furry
my waifu
my secondary waifu
Twig
in fact every prior tournament feral that haven't won
I could list off more but I have a bad memory
No.138805
Anonymous
Replies:>>138806>>138807>>138809>>138810
>>138803
ok
how did Marvin even reach the Elite 8?
No.138806
Anonymous
>>138805
For similar reasons other Looney Tunes and Tyr'ahnee reach the Elite 8.
No.138807
Anonymous
>>138805
He had Looney Tunes nostalgia and Duck Dodgers '03 nostalgia going for him.
No.138808
Anonymous
Image:172021596607.png(161kB, 579x658)1662639522575.png
will you anon
No.138809
Anonymous
Replies:>>138811
>>138805
Marvin is one of the characters you should feel the least surprised about doing well in Mr. /co/.
Hugh Neutron, Xavier and Farquaad are probably the most unconventional you have got which is not to say they are bad E8. I don't think Mr. /co/ has any terrible E8 members really.
Maybe Cap America for meta reasons but nobody ever brings him up.
No.138810
Anonymous
>>138805
NSA was seething over who beat Black Hat and Marvin was her way to punish
No.138811
Anonymous
Replies:>>138812
>>138809
Xavier and Farquaad had some of the best campaigns that contributed to their runs but did Hugh have anything of note? I feel like I would've remembered it at this point.
No.138812
Anonymous
>>138811
Hugh beat Mr. Incredible, which by default makes him the best E8 guy in 2020.
No.138814
Anonymous
>>138804
Based
No.138815
Anonymous
Replies:>>138826
>"I'm such a happy cuck!"
Why did Anti-Mr. Incrediblefag say that?
No.138817
Anonymous
JJJ was BETRAYED and TRAPPED
No.138818
Anonymous
Replies:>>138821>>138851
>>138801
Which one of FARTS/SCK do you want to win this year?
No.138820
Anonymous
Replies:>>138822
>>138563
Maybe do it Miss America style; disqualify Wuya and make Eris the winner
No.138821
Anonymous
Replies:>>138823
Image:172022004591.jpg(171kB, 850x1202)sample_48987616e0bc7a086f8c37897226a3dc.jpg
>>138818
Frankie
No.138822
Anonymous
Replies:>>138838
>>138820
Sadly Eris likely also benefitted from NSA interference. She escapes scrutiny because she wasn't the NSA pick, although I'd say neither deserves to be tarnished in such a manner. It's all just unfortunate.
No.138823
Anonymous
Replies:>>138830
>>138821
Not voting for Broly in Villains now.
No.138824
Anonymous
Replies:>>138828
Why do people not like Hugh Neutron as an Elite Eight member again? He was the best character in his show.
No.138825
Anonymous
>>138798
All the decisions NSA made led to the most chaotic outcomes possible.
No.138826
Anonymous
>>138815
K, b, c.
No.138827
Anonymous
Replies:>>138828
>>138695
/co/ makes up the majority of /tnt/, just compare the activity in our threads and /v/ ones.
No.138828
Anonymous
Replies:>>138829
>>138824
He's not as iconic as the other E8 picks and feels weird being in there.
>>138827
/v/ thread is usually more active. In fact, until this discussion, it had more posts.
No.138829
Anonymous
Replies:>>138833>>138836
>>138828
>/v/ thread is usually more active. In fact, until this discussion, it had more posts.
Have you noticed that number in OP's subject?
No.138830
Anonymous
Replies:>>138834>>138837
>>138823
counterpoint
もしもパラガスがどこでもdoorを使ったら【ブロリーMAD】youtube thumb
No.138832
Anonymous
>>138791
Until NSA shows
>her
Tits and GTFO, I'm not calling him a girl.
No.138833
Anonymous
Replies:>>138835
>>138829
How new are you? We only got that much activity in /co/ threads because of the NSA drama. /v/ was consistently more active last year.
No.138834
Anonymous
Replies:>>138837
>>138830
Whoa... I didn't know the Japanese make funny YTPs too...
No.138835
Anonymous
Replies:>>138839
>>138833
NSA drama isn't exclusive to /co/, /v/fags were talking about it too.
No.138836
Anonymous
Replies:>>138839
>>138829
also this thread is younger than the current /v/ off-season thread but has more posts
No.138837
Anonymous
>>138830
>>138834
gonna spite Broly
No.138838
Anonymous
>>138822
Eris is the chaos girl, if anyone can survive the damage it's her. Just be glad she didn't win.
No.138839
Anonymous
>>138836
It had like 200 less posts until a couple of days ago.
>>138835
/co/ was talking about it much more because NSA was a /co/ host.
No.138840
Anonymous
Replies:>>138841>>138844>>138846>>138848>>138850
>>138801
Zoomer toons deserve to do better. One of them should make E8 this year.
No.138841
Anonymous
Replies:>>138846
Image:172022560275.jpg(110kB, 850x1058)1718162128433069.jpg
>>138840
ENTER
No.138842
Anonymous
Replies:>>138847
Image:172022599435.png(1.70MB, 1080x1350)LegsToy.png
>>138801
Alright, let's talk about something else.



Legs
No.138843
Anonymous
>>138803
Is this pic the shit Brad Bird finds funny? I don't remember The Incredibles doing that much fat jokes.
No.138844
Anonymous
Replies:>>138847
>>138840
Fangbros we're being memory holed
No.138846
Anonymous
Replies:>>138861
>>138840
>>138841
I hope MD jobs round 1 and ADC round 2
No.138847
Anonymous
Replies:>>138854>>138911
Image:172023112667.jpg(60kB, 694x552)BBEACF08-24B3-47CA-8343-3B2A74FD6F4F.jpeg
>>138844
Zoomers hate primal, it’s not the constant overstimulation they crave.
>>138842
No.138848
Anonymous
>>138840
Spinelsisters we're being sent to the shadow realm
No.138850
Anonymous
Replies:>>138852
>>138840
Do you mean made by Zoomers or young enough to be zoomers themselves?
No.138851
Anonymous
>>138818
Kim is the strongest SCK Coalition Rep allowed rn
No.138852
Anonymous
>>138850
Because it's neither. It came out post-2012 so it's Gen Alpha era, and the creator is a Millenial, not a zoomer.
No.138854
Anonymous
Image:172023427579.jpg(41kB, 608x462)the boys.jpg
>>138847
>Zorak, what are we watching?
*blink* Art
>Um, it's just a shot of Fang
The best shot there is
No.138857
Anonymous
Replies:>>138858>>138859>>138863>>138873
Image:172023746870.jpg(48kB, 854x480)Mr Krabs.jpg
What's next for Mr. Krabs?
No.138858
Anonymous
>>138857
finally beating Squidward
No.138859
Anonymous
>>138857
nothing
No.138861
Anonymous
Replies:>>138864
>>138846
Okay Fangfag.
No.138863
Anonymous
Replies:>>138880
Image:172024315204.jpg(21kB, 300x169)43D002B4-7220-45B5-BAFB-C03DA763960A.jpeg
>>138857
Mr FAGs is SHIT and DEAD
No.138864
Anonymous
Replies:>>138865
>>138861
Skibidi toilet to you too
No.138865
Anonymous
Replies:>>138867>>138869>>138872
>>138864
Same shit as YTPs
No.138867
Anonymous
Replies:>>138868>>138879>>138881>>138882
Image:172024407861.jpg(458kB, 1125x859)171771334572.jpg
>>138865
>Same shit as-ACK!
No.138868
Anonymous
Replies:>>138870
>>138867
>someone else saved it
Fucking lol
No.138869
Anonymous
Replies:>>138871
Image:172024463735.jpg(224kB, 413x723)A6C3538F-FA0E-419C-8730-4C440DE16EBB.jpeg
>>138865
>the people who hate Fang watch this shit
No.138870
Anonymous
>>138868
Yeah I know, these alphoomers are really pathetic lol
No.138871
Anonymous
Replies:>>138925
Image:172024605888.jpg(54kB, 1079x589)Omni_Dad.jpg
>>138869
Why do you have that picture saved, anon?
No.138872
Anonymous
Replies:>>138874
Image:172024642615.jpg(100kB, 1270x674)4513A0FC-3F37-4FA0-B02F-27218CC73A04.jpeg
>>138865
the /v/ thread is that way
No.138873
Anonymous
>>138857
Squidward has both a sixth place run and a Tag Team runner-up run behind him, so he's already failed against his main target. I expect him to search for another punching bag and fail spectacularly.
No.138874
Anonymous
Replies:>>138876>>138921
Image:172024703270.png(48kB, 176x389)Hank_Hill.png
>>138872
>thinking people don't vote /co/ characters for their YTPs too
ENTER
No.138875
Anonymous
Replies:>>138877
>Fang and Spinel
Who?
No.138876
Anonymous
Replies:>>138878
>>138874
I'm not saying this to prove or disprove anything but as a long time KotH fan I only recently found out about the YTPs when it was brought up on /co/
Evidently I have been enjoying the show wrong this whole time
No.138877
Anonymous
>>138875
The Asterisksisters...
No.138878
Anonymous
Replies:>>138883
>>138876
I can't believe it took you this long to watch at least Hank of the Hill.
Hank of the Hill (Re-Upload)youtube thumb
No.138879
Anonymous
>>138867
How can someone write this and expect to be taken at face value in any capacity.
No.138880
Anonymous
>>138863
Kek
No.138881
Anonymous
>>138867
>Posted it again award
No.138882
Anonymous
Replies:>>138884
>>138867
He’s right tho.
No.138883
Anonymous
>>138878
Okay that's the one I actually had watched before (mostly I just remembered the "DALLAS?SALLAD" part) I just didn't know this series was host to such extensive series of YTPs
No.138884
Anonymous
Replies:>>138885
>>138882
Quit talking about yourself in third person.
No.138885
Anonymous
Replies:>>138886
>>138884
He's right tho. Different anon here.
No.138886
Anonymous
Replies:>>138887
>>138885
Begging for votes and a better performance isn't exactly a good tactic to gain sympathy.
No.138887
Anonymous
Replies:>>138888>>138889>>138890
>>138886
What is a good tactic?
No.138888
Anonymous
>>138887
Making tributes. It's statistically proven to be effective.
No.138889
Anonymous
>>138887
Post their YTPs
No.138890
Anonymous
Replies:>>138891>>138892>>138893>>138899>>138910
>>138887
Making like 3 roleplay posts and one stick figure art piece, saying you're "campaigning", and then begging for people to vote for "those who have fans and aren't silentfags" which mostly means your pick
No.138891
Anonymous
>>138890
someone's got a chip on their shoulder
No.138892
Anonymous
Replies:>>138904>>138906
>>138890
I have a feeling this is making fun of one specific campaigner and I'm not gonna name names, but I think I know who you're talking about.
No.138893
Anonymous
Replies:>>138894
>>138890
>stick figure art piece
Phew, thankfully that's not me; but yes, that is still campaigning. Any post pertaining to a character is campaigning, you don't need to be good at drawing or spam your character for it to count.
No.138894
Anonymous
Replies:>>138895
>>138893
Wrong. You need to have Hexanon-level talent or post your character in every thread or else your campaigning is just shit and will be ignored.
No.138895
Anonymous
Image:172027020097.jpg(33kB, 680x383)No,IDon'tThinkIWill.jpg
>>138894
No.138899
Anonymous
Replies:>>138900
>>138890
you also have to be doing this multiple times in a thread along with having an RP session with another RPer otherwise your mains will be labelled as silent
No.138900
Anonymous
Replies:>>138901
>>138899
Damn, no wonder basically nobody talks about me or my character. None of my opponents ever tried to RPed with me in the tournaments.
No.138901
Anonymous
>>138900
could always be worse, your opponent could be RPing with someone else entirely while ignoring you
No.138904
Anonymous
>>138892
Now I'm paranoid this somehow could be me
No.138906
Anonymous
Replies:>>138908
>>138892
>t. Homelander
No.138908
Anonymous
Replies:>>138918
Image:172028428834.jpg(59kB, 1200x675)homolander.JPG
>>138906
Alright, you got me, it's NSA I'm talking about. You see, NSA wasn't just campaigning for Wuya and Black Hat, they're secretly Judyanon, Loonaanon, and all three Plunderers all at the same time. They also did all of the off-topic posting in /an/lympics this year, every single post. I wish you all didn't have to find this out right now, so I'll keep my other bombshell secret until Villains of /a/ start.
No.138910
Anonymous
>>138890
>and one stick figure art piece
Henrybros...
No.138911
Anonymous
Replies:>>138915
>>138847
Primal's not exactly slow and thought-provoking.
No.138915
Anonymous
Replies:>>138916>>138917
>>138911
Much more thought-provoking than skibidi toilet or whatever you alphoomers like to watch
No.138916
Anonymous
>>138915
isn't Skibidi Toilet just a war show?
No.138917
Anonymous
>>138915
Primal actually has a pretty similar appeal or mindless action, just like Skibidi Toilet. Unironically.
I don't even like ST but that's not the high horse you wanna try to ride.
No.138918
Anonymous
Replies:>>138919>>138920>>138922
>>138908
Damn, this is crazy... Hey wait a minute if NSA was Loonaanon why does Loona keep losing in round one? And if she was Judyanon why does Judy keep losing before she gets into the Elite 8?
No.138919
Anonymous
>>138918
Anon, Loona is one of the very few double-winners...
No.138920
Anonymous
Image:172029488164.jpg(55kB, 1200x676)Homelander-Herogasm-1.jpg
>>138918
It was all apart of her plan to get those two to win after Wuya, same with Ruber and Silver, for you see, NSA is also secretly DisneyFan01, and when she isn't shipping herself with Silver, she's shipping him with Judy. I've gone through her hard drive, and found several drawings of the two. I'm afraid I can't go more in-depth since it could jeopardize Ms. /co/ much more than the Peruvian Facebook page ever could, so I will wait until after that tournament to reveal more of NSA's secrets.
No.138921
Anonymous
>>138874
Jesus died for our sins, one more won't hurt.
No.138922
Anonymous
>>138918
Maybe she's into humiliation.
I mean we all know what Temp did to Dan when he failed him
No.138924
Anonymous
Replies:>>138928
>>132095
>Nia
I swear to god the one to two people actually into that character are getting to MD levels here.
That's entirely delusional. There's no indication that character would actually make a round 1 as they haven't got close to in years. That series doesn't even have anywhere near MD's views to justify the delusion. It's the same with how the booru now has 1000 pictures of this character because one person decided to upload in the last several weeks all the art that ever got made of her
No.138925
Anonymous
Replies:>>138926
>>138871
To mock Gen alpha
No.138926
Anonymous
Image:172030306020.jpg(22kB, 506x366)Spongebob.jpg
>>138925
you use it to mock children?
No.138928
Anonymous
>>138924
>I swear to god the one to two people actually into that character are getting to MD levels here.
so...they're not doing anything wrong but you're angry people are discussing something you don't like?
No.138929
Anonymous
Replies:>>138930
Nfag back in town.
No.138930
Anonymous
Replies:>>138931>>138932>>138934>>138946>>138951>>138953>>138965
>>138929
for me it's J
No.138931
Anonymous
Image:172030554980.png(86kB, 277x500)J (otokojuku).png
>>138930
yea
No.138932
Anonymous
Image:172030558352.jpg(303kB, 1710x2048)j.jpg
>>138930
based jenjoyer
No.138933
Anonymous
Replies:>>138936>>138994
Image:172030634653.png(168kB, 1600x1854)f022587003172d29fc8def1e789391d8.png
>Get banned for 30 days for "Ban evasion"
>Despite all i did was link to a deleted post i made on the archive
The fuck? Is that really considered ban evasion or are the jannies just dumb?
No.138934
Anonymous
Image:172030652758.jpg(29kB, 275x332)Agent_J_MIB11.jpg
>>138930
hell yeah
No.138935
Anonymous
Replies:>>138937>>138940>>138944>>138964>>138969>>138981>>138982
The two biggest flaws a host can have is being a liar and being an egotist.

Liars cannot be trusted to be honest about the state of the tournament or ongoing events. (IE: Domino covering up Tourney returning preventing us from outing him sooner and lying about his RPing)

Egotists cannot be trusted to listen to reason and will instead bull forward. (Temp refusing to back off on Tag Team, not asking for advice when he should have, and his constant attempts to overthrow other hosts only making things worse and giving said hosts a mandate).

But you know what's worst of all? Both. Liars can still handle things decently well behind the scenes(Domino made the polls run on time, and tried to wrangle Tourney). Egotists can be useful if their convinctions happen to be correct (Temp was right about the /tnt/ - /co/ schism and he was right in that NSA is lying, but when you scream and threaten a coup for every issue no one listens when you happen to be right). But someone who is both will lie to benefit their ego, and flex their ego by lying. Lying is a power move and power fuels the ego. It's a horrifying combination.


Dominos was a liar, not an egotist.
Temp was an egotist, but not a liar.
NSA was fucking both. You know how else was both? Tourney/Numnuts/whatever.

Except NSA was actually worse. Numnuts had enough mental issues and schizo-tier shit going on that he couldn't keep his mouth shut or pass the buck when he got outed for mistakes. (And this was despite taking over directly from Temp's failures and having Domino to tardwrangle. He had both an accomplice and a patsy and he still messed up and got outed).

NSA was competent enough to take advantage of drama from other people and probably stoke the flames to make it worse(I'm convinced NSA was the one screaming about Temp Loyalists planning to overthrow her and Trash Factions planning to kill /co/ tournaments to protect /v/ so there would be enough panic to force a rally around the flag effect. Plus pre-tag team 2023 Temp was rebuilding his image and might have been capable of causing trouble if his timing was better, but thankfully he ruined that part himself).

No one has ever found the so-called offsite furries who rigged out a dozen characters including high tiers like Raven or Shego. Basilanon looked. They didn't exist. NSA is the only person who claims to have seen them.

NSA fucking rigged the vote against some girls she didn't like, flat out told us she had just offering a lame excuse and then stating that despite knowing the real winners she was moving on anyway because 'muh time limit'. And she got away with it. Blame the jannies on making that threat seem credible, blame Temp for playing the folly, but NSA fucking got away with open vote fuckery.

People noticed how much the tournament was tanking, NSA just stopped publishing numbers, managed to bulldoze through it. NSA struggling to push through her reform plans that will benefit her, she hosts it on a shady poll mid-thread and then pauses it when she pulls ahead and refuses to show docs.

NSA was a legitimately dangerous version of Tourney, smart enough to actually pull it off. We lost hundreds of people to her BS changes and I honestly think she wanted that since fewer people makes control easier. Easier to rig, easier to astroturf.

I think what ultimately sunk her was the combintion of her ballooning ego making her increasingly brazen, and the fact that in 2022 she had the benefit of Temp still being around, the Janny threat still being credible, and even old Numnuts still occasionally showed up, plenty of people and problems to pass the buck onto. /co/ fucking hates furries, why do you think she picked them to pass the blame onto when she tested getting away with open brazen fruad.

But in 2023, Temp was banned fron /co/, Numnuts was too depressive in his manic-depression to do much of anything, and the Jannies had shown thanks to NSA constantly overrunning her deadlines while LARPing that they weren't going to be that harsh.

She had lost all the patsys, no more reichstag fires to shield attention, and ultimately even with hundreds of people having left enough anons pressed for answers that something broke.
No.138936
Anonymous
Replies:>>138939
>>138933
You can appeal bans of that length. I managed to appeal and lift an unfair ban once after I got banned for "calls to raiding" for linking a tournament thread in a general

(in my defense, it was during qualifiers and I had no main from that franchise that year, I just told people to vote for whoever they wanted)
No.138937
Anonymous
Replies:>>138941
>>138935
>You know how else was both? Tourney/Numnuts/whatever.
I know people here might not wanna here it but i really am sorry for hurting people.
No.138938
Anonymous
Replies:>>138940
This is why i think we should encourage Psyanon to become a host and quit the audio posting game in exchange.

Just hear me out-

>Psyanon is the longest active anon in regards to the tournaments who is both still around and still confirmed trustworthy, he's been making audio content since 2020 and other OC prior.

>Psyanon is a /co/ native, not a /tnt/ or pluschan hardcore. He followed us here to do more audio stuff, that is all. So we don't have the outsider problem that will ruin /co/s faith or breed people like NSA.

>Psyanon is the ONLY anon we can 100% confirm with zero doubts is who he says he is. We've heard his voice in the pre-AI era, we have a clean track record for him. Giving how many times Tourney changes his name and came back as a new host and the fact NSA is still bitter and planing to return I honestly don't feel comfortable trusting any new host because it's impossible to confirm if they are who they say they are and aren't a former disgraced host with a grudge(of which we have like, 4 now).

Unless Statsanon Jebs out of nowhere and saves us all
Psyanon is the only anon left who fits all the requirments and is well liked by /co/. I'd advise him to consider stepping up. We need a hero
No.138939
Anonymous
Replies:>>138943>>138994
Image:172030695942.jpg(82kB, 1160x665)GIRdog.jpg
>>138936
Thanks. Although i wonder if i should go straight iirc. That's what that website is call right?
No.138940
Anonymous
Replies:>>138942
>>138935
>>138938
Temp, if you still care this fucking much, you should just go back to hosting yourself.
No.138941
Anonymous
Replies:>>138945>>138947
>>138937
You wanna make yourself useful? Find NSA and keep her stupid ass out. That's the only way you'll ever earn an ounce of praise from anyone here. Do that thing Temp(maybe?) was saying he might do, drag NSA down with you, breakup her loyalists from the inside, offer to help her and then immediately betray her.

Never advocate anything else, your reputation is in ruins, so the best thing you can do is use that to drag that big titted bitch down with you. Ruin her, if the thought of making some NEET girl all bothered gets you off think about that too.
No.138942
Anonymous
>>138940
Temp Anon is not well liked or trusted, Temp is thus a bad choice.

Any new host could potentially just be him, or tourney, or NSA. We need someone we can trust who will turn this ship around and bring us back to our roots
No.138943
Anonymous
>>138939
I think this GirAnon is NSA playing the long fucking game, making themselevs look harmless and quirky, then they step up when people look for a host, then it's just NSA in a trenchcoat..

GirAnon
GirlAnon
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT
No.138944
Anonymous
Replies:>>138948
>>138935
>No one has ever found the so-called offsite furries who rigged out a dozen characters including high tiers like Raven or Shego. Basilanon looked. They didn't exist. NSA is the only person who claims to have seen them.
Well actually people have found threads in the /trash/ archives pushing for the furry characters.
No.138945
Anonymous
Replies:>>138947>>138949
>>138941
Oh great just what we needed, Temp giving Numnuts stupid ideas.
No.138946
Anonymous
Image:172030751172.png(832kB, 1920x1079)jconceptart.png
>>138930
>liking a tranny
No.138947
Anonymous
>>138941
>>138945
I actually tried reaching out to her but i have gotten no response.
Either she ignored me or she has completely abandoned her NightShift persona.
No.138948
Anonymous
Replies:>>138950
>>138944
FIRST - If trash's voting power actually meant anything the fatfags would get one of their girls past round 1. If they couldn't even get Sharon past R1 they aren't doing much.

SECOND - /trash/ threads backing a few girls (Furries back anthros, Fatthreads back Fat girls, BE/AE threads back stacked girls) happens ever year, no evidence on the massive scale NSA was claiming.

2022 initially was the highest numbers of any year ever, though it absolutely plummeted in the back half to the lowest since 2018, so this rigging would have to far larger then the Perushit from 2019. That was with half the voter pool and they were only backing two girls, NSA 'claimed' these riggers hit over a dozen girls and were strong enough to do it in a election with double the anons as 2019. We'd see something far, far larger if it was to cause the kind of trouble NSA claimed.

THIRD, /trash/ isn't even offsite, that's a different board of 4chan. Same website. It's less off-site than /tnt/ and Plus4Chan in general in fact, and we do campaign shit here all the time(though /co/ DOES often call it off-site for us and say we're offsite, different argument, whether you think we are or are not /trash/ board definitely is). StatsAnon said other boards supporting their picks was fine(all the picks are /co/ girls anyway so no major bias), the problem was shit like Facebook Groups and Discord, people not part of 4chan culture whatsoever utterly swamping or swinging it like we saw in 2019. We have never seen something on that scale since. NSA just said off-site initially, /trash/ came later and was yet another scapegoat
No.138949
Anonymous
Replies:>>138952
>>138945
Isn't that combination how NSA got away with 2022 in the first place?
No.138950
Anonymous
>>138948
So NSA just rigged out characters she hates and the fact they were all up against furries was a coincidence?
No.138951
Anonymous
Image:172030800270.png(1.38MB, 1200x675)j_jonah_jameson.png
>>138930
You're missing a couple Js there, kid.
No.138952
Anonymous
Replies:>>138954
>>138949
Kind of. Numnuts essentially attempted to infiltrate and become NSA's cohost in the middle of Ms. /co/ 2022. After being found out thanks to anons asking Black Hand to investigate his posts, NSA put forward her "vetting process" for other future hosts, although she had given hints of having to do this before any of that.
No.138953
Anonymous
Image:172030830892.png(463kB, 685x457)Screenshot 2024-07-07 002429.png
>>138930
based
No.138954
Anonymous
Replies:>>138955
>>138952
True. I wanted to help due to how long it was taking her to actually make the threads, i was going to tell her the truth but the attitude i got from her honestly frightened me a bit and i also felt bad for her situation with her job keeping her busy.
No.138955
Anonymous
Replies:>>138956
>>138954
Cumnuts, NSA doesn't have a job.
No.138956
Anonymous
>>138955
She doesn't? Really? But that's what she told me when i questioned her on why it took so long for her to make the threads? She seriously lied to me about having a job?
No.138957
Anonymous
Replies:>>138958>>138960>>138968>>138973
Anyone find it kind weird how temp has completely ignored the existence and basically been trashing the current experienced line-up of hosts? Especially considering they’re like his lineage and have no origin with NSA.
>coayy: started out as temp’s co-host, basically first vetted by him
>samaritanon: arrived to clean up from temp’s tourney getting booted
>cumanon: new guy vetted by above two
But he really wants psy to run. Maybe he thinks psy will let him back.
No.138958
Anonymous
Replies:>>138959
>>138957
I don't get the feel he has any interest in going back to hosting tournaments.
No.138959
Anonymous
Replies:>>138961>>138970
>>138958
I certainly do considering how obsessed he is with how it’s ran.
No.138960
Anonymous
Replies:>>138962
>>138957
iirc Psyanon has said before that he doesn't want to host, so I don't get why Temp wants him to host so badly.
No.138961
Anonymous
Replies:>>138963
>>138959
I mean everyone with some degree of participacition in rulesfagging discussion has interest in how the tournament is ran. If Temp wanted to wriggle himself into hosting again he would certainly be attempting something else instead of sticķing to discussion like everyone else.
No.138962
Anonymous
Replies:>>138984
>>138960
But yeah I don't really get how come he just ignores the other three current hosts in all of this.
No.138963
Anonymous
>>138961
Some degree sure, but temp is probably the biggest tourney autist there’s ever been.
No.138964
Anonymous
Replies:>>138966>>138978
>>138935
the biggest flaw a host can make is disappearing mysteriously
No.138965
Anonymous
Image:172030997965.jpg(245kB, 1280x720)J.jpg
>>138930
No.138966
Anonymous
Replies:>>138967
>>138964
It's not Stats' fault NSA killed him in his sleep.
No.138967
Anonymous
Replies:>>138974
>>138966
Stats died in a car crash not in his sleep
No.138968
Anonymous
Replies:>>138971>>138972
>>138957
Wasn't one of these 3 outed as Numnuts at some point? I know he tried to come back under another name again at some point
No.138969
Anonymous
>>138935
It's sometime very hard to find a rigging group, the reason Discord is brought up so often is because those groups are basically not searchable unless it's a public group based around a series and you'd need someone in the group in the first place to leak the group out in the first place
Rest is correct
No.138970
Anonymous
Replies:>>138975
>>138959
Temp either realized he doesn't have the chops to do it or thinks he has too many haters to do it properly. Or both. So he's just advocating positions from the sideline and hoping the tournaments get back on track with better, more trustworthy leadership.

Or maybe he feels guilty that his actions made it easier for NSA to get away with her bullshit and change a bunch of rules willy nilly making things even worse.

Or maybe he's just not here.
No.138971
Anonymous
Image:172031053448.png(22kB, 578x407)vytuouououououo - Copy.png
>>138968
Don't worry, i am not any of those Anons, i don't even have any interest in hosting anymore now that i'm beginning to kickstart my career.
No.138972
Anonymous
>>138968
No, all three were cleared by black hand.
No.138973
Anonymous
>>138957
Temp is nothing if not paranoid. I would not be surprised if PsyAnon is the only guy left he trusts to do what's right and what's best and handle it without causing infighting.

Not sure if that's Fusefag drama having broken his brain or Numnuts taking over from him and immediately rigging shit, or the fact he never trusted NSA. Temp is a paranoid mess and probably blames himself for half this shit, he could only say the 'anons told me to' thing so long and some choices he straight up made on his own like the coup against NSA have been proven to have made things worse.

I think that's why he ultimately pulled back on trying to move Tag Team, it wasn't going to happen and the trouble trying had caused was allowing the main two tournaments to be corrupted and altering. NSA had to be stopped and her fuckery had to be undone, if the main two fell it would all be over, and Temp as dumb as he was has seemingly figured out he is not the guy for the job.
No.138974
Anonymous
>>138967
You don't think the NSA could snip a few brakelines and blame it on him being drunk at the afterparty?

She's flat enough to fit under a car
No.138975
Anonymous
Replies:>>138976
>>138970
>better, more trustworthy leadership.
Which for some reason is the radio anon and not the current hosts that actually booted NSA. Comes across as kind of a weird powe grab angle considering his history.
Also the talking about yourself in third person thing is not convincing. I don’t know why you’re keeping it up.
No.138976
Anonymous
Replies:>>138979
>>138975
Maybe he wasn't present for that on account of the ban and is too embarrassed to admit he doesn't know their names and reps? He's been banned on /co/ for like a year
No.138977
Anonymous
Replies:>>138986
psyanon more like gayanon
No.138978
Anonymous
>>138964
Maybe mid-tournament. Stats was courteous enough to wait until right after the tournament finished to die. Honestly I'd take a host that does a good job and ghosts afterwards over a malicious host that does a bad job on purpose. While you're left scrambling to find another host, you'll still have had that good experience. With a malicious host, you'll be scrambling anyway without a good experience to make it worthwhile.
No.138979
Anonymous
>>138976
Then it’d be funny you’ve been going on huge analysis and solutions about things without a full grab of what’s been going on or any of the recent hosting stuff and their ultimatum. Almost all the NSA drama about her behind the scenes behavior went down here too and not on /co/. Only exception was a very poor and pointless response thread from NSA on /co/. Considering how much a tourney autist you are I’m surprised you’d have missed everything about any side tourney stuff too.
No.138981
Anonymous
Replies:>>138983>>138987
>>138935
I wonder how other hosts like PageantAnon or the men that host side tournaments fit into the equation
No.138982
Anonymous
>>138935
>She had lost all the patsys, no more reichstag fires to shield attention, and ultimately even with hundreds of people having left enough anons pressed for answers that something broke.
NSA literally only got caught because she felt too comfortable with sharing her Discord in that drawing site chatroom and some anon just happened to screencap it. It's kind of insane how much of a coincidence her downfall was. Without the screencap, no amount of questions would lead anyone anywhere.
No.138983
Anonymous
Replies:>>138985
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>>138981
GUYMAN IS TOURNEY IN DRAG AND A WIG
No.138984
Anonymous
Replies:>>138988
>>138962
I think in Temp's mind time just sort of stopped after Tag-Team 2022.
No.138985
Anonymous
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>>138983
I gotta respond to this because even though it's a joke i gotta say that i would never because i hate trannies.
No.138986
Anonymous
>>138977
fang (GVH)bro btw
No.138987
Anonymous
>>138981
>PageantAnon
He's just an anon from /mlp/ not affiliated with any other hosts whatsoever. He doesn't even know about challonge and used some other method to randomize publicly last year.
No.138988
Anonymous
Replies:>>138989
>>138984
Judging from his various rants here the past months he seems well aware that NSA got fucked and what for, which makes some of his gaps in recent knowledge weirder.
No.138989
Anonymous
Replies:>>138990
>>138988
Notice how the only misdeeds of NSA he brings up are from 2022. Nothing about Wuya or Eris.
No.138990
Anonymous
>>138989
He mentioned stuff about losers bracket and the oc anchor link. Also I assumed many of the big rants about host campaigning and morality were from him.
No.138992
Anonymous
Temp being a tourney autist that can’t stay away and really wants to host has occasionally visited tourney threads here and on the main site since his 2022 leave so my guess is he gathers the gist of what goes on including the NSA situation but his aversion to side tourney stuff and not being a /tnt/ regular means he’s missed nuances and has been pretty much not aware of any the new host affairs and involvements. Hence despite his extensive assessments his weird suggestions like psy running the tourneys.
No.138993
Anonymous
Replies:>>138994
Voting brisby this year bros
No.138994
Anonymous
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>>138933
>>138939
Damn Gir, you're looking mighty sexy right now. Why don't you come over here and let me help you in other ways?
>>138993
Same here.
No.139000
Anonymous
Image:172033762961.png(239kB, 248x308)IMG_0990.png
Temp you really need to let this shit go, you’e not getting back into power and trying to get Numnuts to keep a constant eye on NSA is fucking weird and creepy, she’s made her own bed, let her lie in it, watching her in that bed 24/7 isn’t necessary and as much as she’s fucked with these tournaments she still has the right to live her life without being stalked by bitter Tourneyheads, it’s a fucking popularity contest even if we like it enough to stick around a board for said popular contest, if you really can’t just move on from the tournaments for some reason then just try to enjoy the show as a spectator, no one’s asking you to make these long ass speeches to try and sway our opinions against our current hosts who were the ones that booted NSA out in the first place.
No.139007
Anonymous
Replies:>>139008>>139012
>Temp
>Numnuts
>NSA
>Other named schizos
Why can't all these losers no one like leave us forever?
No.139008
Anonymous
>>139007
I actually don't dislike most of Temp's tournament rants and think they do have some value, but I wish he would stop talking about himself in third person. Like, dude, we know it's you.
No.139012
Anonymous
Replies:>>139025
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>>139007
I'm not hurting anyone anymore. I have the right to be here.
No.139013
Anonymous
Replies:>>139026
Image:172036507805.png(36kB, 512x512)whaat.png
>already only two months left before another Ms. /co/
No.139025
Anonymous
>>139012
you're hurting my eyes with your dumb words
No.139026
Anonymous
Replies:>>139027
>>139013
Aku could win this year and cuck Jack out of winning
No.139027
Anonymous
Replies:>>139028>>139029>>139032
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>>139026
we've had too many villain victories. this year, justice will prevail!
No.139028
Anonymous
>>139027
Batman? SHIT and FINISHED.
No.139029
Anonymous
Replies:>>139030
>>139027
Only cape I will be voting for is Homelander. I heard he has something big to tell us for Ms. and Mr.
No.139030
Anonymous
Replies:>>139038
>>139029
Homelander could actually be entertaining if played right, and having a Garth Ennis character get ahead of other comic picks by even a single round would be even funnier.
No.139031
Anonymous
>>138147
Honestly, I wouldn't mind most of them winning.
Hades and Jafar are up there for sure.
Frollo's great, though he kinda stands opposite from the rest of the 90s villains.
I'm surprised Scar never qualified even as a furry coompick.
Oogie Boogie would be a bit unorthodox but neat (though I'd prefer Jack to make it first).
Ratcliffe, Clayton, and the guy from Mulan would be the only weak winners.
No.139032
Anonymous
Replies:>>139033
>>139027
This board needs a HERO
No.139033
Anonymous
Replies:>>139034>>139035
>>139032
Right. Like Mao Mao, Superman, Popeye, Puss, Daredevil, or Optimus Prime.
No.139034
Anonymous
>>139033
>Shou Fu Kan was so bad anons are revising history by leaving him out of Heroes discussions
No.139035
Anonymous
>>139033
I'd actually welcome a Superman win, but I just don't think anyone could pull off a successful campaign for him.
No.139036
Anonymous
This anti-Hank fag again?
No.139038
Anonymous
>>139030
The funposting he has does fit considering how much of an attention whore he is, so it could maybe work in a proper tournament setting.
No.139039
Anonymous
Replies:>>139040>>139041>>139060
The 500 people that vote based on what they remember from their childhood/what makes them coom without looking at the threads would laugh if they ever read this discussion
No.139040
Anonymous
Replies:>>139055
>>139039
I mean I post here very often and I can say this type of campaigning or meta shit has probably decided my vote like 5 times over the years
It's usually very clear to me who I'd want to vote for
No.139041
Anonymous
Replies:>>139042
>>139039
I look at these threads specifically to know who to NOT vote for.
No.139042
Anonymous
Replies:>>139044>>139063
>>139041
Which picks actually do consistently well amongst silent or less dedicated voters, yet don't actually get brought up on here?
No.139044
Anonymous
>>139042
Frankie
No.139048
Anonymous
Replies:>>139049>>139051>>139058
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So how do i get into 4chan iirc? I'm gonna try to appeal my ban directly.
No.139049
Anonymous
Replies:>>139052
>>139048
nigga just change ip already. Can’t imagine actually waiting out a bullshit ban this long.
No.139051
Anonymous
Replies:>>139052
Image:172039815818.png(66kB, 508x221)chris's advice.png
>>139048
No.139052
Anonymous
Replies:>>139053>>139058
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>>139049
>>139051
So you guys are saying that to get around a false ban evasion ban is to ban evade?
What kind of diabolical plan is thus?
No.139053
Anonymous
>>139052
If it's a false ban, then yes just evade, the mods won't care if you bug them in IRC.
No.139054
Anonymous
I have betrayed and trapped someone in the hot, steamy, time chamber
No.139055
Anonymous
>>139040
Yeah same, I only use campaigning as a tiebreaker and I tend to go pretty hard in campaigning
No.139058
Anonymous
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>>139048
>>139052
Hmm... I know how to deal with this. Gir, get back into your dog costume first and come here.
No.139060
Anonymous
Replies:>>139062>>139063
>>139039
I wonder, are the silent majority funbag fans or do they like big butts and cannot lie?
No.139062
Anonymous
Replies:>>139064
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>>139060
you just know
No.139063
Anonymous
>>139042
Frankie, Raven, Starfire, Chel, Kim Possible, Eve, Totally Spies girls, Courage, Shaggy.
>>139060
Seems leaning more towards butts.
No.139064
Anonymous
>>139062
Nah none of the fatfag candidates get past Round 1 at best.

We'd be happy just to get one Jucika tier run someday honestly
No.139067
Anonymous
Replies:>>139071
I kind of feel bad for Villainous characters.
No.139071
Anonymous
>>139067
As far as Ms. is concerned, I don't think the NSA shit is going to affect Demencia or Miss Heed more than anything else. Most of the people who'd vote for them for waifu/coom appeal won't care about the drama.
No.139074
Anonymous
Image:172045302517.png(9kB, 185x272)images.png
I went onto irc and got my ban appealed! I am now free!
No.139075
Anonymous
Replies:>>139090
Image:172045412414.jpg(450kB, 1502x845)3442A0CC-9470-4045-9DBE-3B3F33A91695.jpeg
we have a problem that nobody has noticed with the winners
>2023: blue Xeno
>2022: green Xeno
>2021: cyborg Xeno
>2020: cat
>2019: Peruvian
2018 is the only tournament with a straight white man winner, we better fix this in October
No.139076
Anonymous
Replies:>>139078>>139222
Someone made this
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/144419608
No.139078
Anonymous
>>139076
>not advertising Villains of /a/ properly
I'd do this myself but I'll be banned for about five more hours.
No.139079
Anonymous
Replies:>>139080
>stealth threads
Bad idea
>stealth threads made with /tnt/ exclusive memes
Worse idea
>linking said stealth threads made with /tnt/ exclusive memes to /tnt/
Worst idea
No.139080
Anonymous
Replies:>>139081>>139101
>>139079
Stealth threads essentially can't survive on their own without getting linked here.
No.139081
Anonymous
Replies:>>139082
>>139080
Maybe don’t use memes that only /tnt/ cares about and will never catch on as the OP then
No.139082
Anonymous
Replies:>>139083>>139084
>>139081
NTA but I imagine some Ms. /co/ regulars might have at least a vague recollection of the qualifiers alliance.
No.139083
Anonymous
>>139082
I’m a /tnt/ regular and I forgot all about them until they were brought up again here
No.139084
Anonymous
Replies:>>139085>>139087
>>139082
I thought that was literally just recently made up.
No.139085
Anonymous
Replies:>>139086
>>139084
>newSHARTS keep taking over /tnt/
No.139086
Anonymous
>>139085
I’ve been here since the start. This alliance just isn’t notable.
No.139087
Anonymous
Replies:>>139088
>>139084
When did you think all the art posted ITT was made then?
No.139088
Anonymous
>>139087
Now by the guy pushing it.
No.139090
Anonymous
Replies:>>139091
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>>139075
H.R. Giger won
No.139091
Anonymous
>>139090
>Frieza or Pirate Robot will win Villains
No.139092
Anonymous
I love the silent majority
No.139094
Anonymous
I hate the silent majority
No.139098
Anonymous
Looks like new thread time
No.139101
Anonymous
>>139080
Good that’s the whole point
Let /co/ users discuss naturally and not just /v/sharters brigading from this website
No.139222
Anonymous
Replies:>>139960
Image:172054619066.jpg(39kB, 640x612)ETtThuxX0AAcgwd.jpg
>>139076
>Check out thread
>It's just a bunch of autistic, sadistic, trolls
Why are they like this? Why do they treat the tournaments like this? Why are their lives so sad?
No.139960
Anonymous
>>139222
>Is /tnt/ so out of touch?

>No, it's /co/ who's wrong about the /co/ tournament
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