/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

//youtube.com/watch?v=7Cn716jv61s

Reposting since the old thread isn't bumping anymore.

>>43380
It's not the worst thing but why did anyone think it was necessary to make this?

>>43382
Sony is making a lot of things hoping something catches fire like Marvel.

>>43390
Makes you wonder what kind of career Lucas would have if SW wasn't such a massive hit, doesn't it?

>>43392
Well, if you look at what the man likes, and his career in general, it's obvious he has the softest spot for fantasy and sci-fi and old fashioned action shows. He just doesn't find realistic stories very exciting.

I don't know if anyone else here is a big fan of Terry Brooks like I am, but during Comic-Con MTV released a teaser trailer for The Shannara Chronicles: //youtube.com/watch?v=crjkQHnDYu0

Almost certainly MTV (of all stations!) picked up the rights in reaction to the success of Game of Thrones. The teaser shows lots of good action and effects, but I'm not sold that it will do the story justice (the first season will adapt The Elfstones of Shannara, I believe). Show has kind of a blah name, but since the books tend to have huge gaps in time between them and they will adapt the other books if this first season does well, it makes sense. "Shannara Legends" sounds better to me, but one of the book arcs has the title "Legends of Shannara", so that is probably out...

>>43404
>The beautiful backdrop of New Zealand
>It really establishes the world of the Shannara Chronicles in a way that seperates it from other genre tales

Except, y'know, that one big, famous one.

They probably should have gone with Vancouver, really. Shannara's Four Lands are basically Washington State anyway.

>>43443
I could've sworn the names were already released.

>>43446
Apparently not all four where known. Not really that big a deal other than they aren't really that memorable. But then again the others have been around for about thirity years.

Watching the Trailers Pixels feels a lot like as a alternate ghostbusters film.

>>43450
Oh yeah, it's totally Evolution by way of an episode of Futurama and Adam Sandler being totally shit.

>>43451
If it weren't for the "Adam Sandler" part, that would sound really good.

>>43458

And yet…

//youtube.com/watch?v=BFD2293oGvA

>>43459
only character that had heart, turned into a literal trophy woman

>>43465
>>43466

Hope she gets to use that cryptic science speak and converse with "Ray" about the spirits. She looks like she has plenty of character. Looks like she belongs.

>>43459
Moviebob's kind of a dick, but boy is he spot on with this one.

>>43472

That rant is a fucking work of art.

>>43459
>finally made a worse movie than Nine Months

Holy shit, THAT bad?

I don't really get the love for Inside Amy Schumer. It relies too much on using taboo words for shock value and hitting the audience over the head with the message du jour. That's not to say the show doesn't make excellent points. I also appreciate that it uses accessible language as opposed to relying on vague pseudointellectualism like The Mary Sue or Polygon. But she's just not very funny.

She presents her point under slightly absurd circumstances and we're supposed to find that hilarious, but IMO it lacks actual humor compared to other socially conscious comedians like Lewis Black and early Colbert. Could be that she's concerned making it too funny will distract from the point, but still. Maybe I just haven't watched enough episodes, I don't know.

>>43476
I can't think of a comedian who's work doesn't rely on social messaging. And the reason its "accessible language" is because its comedy. Maybe its not funny, but its still in the genre.

In fact, while we're on the subject:
//youtube.com/watch?v=pOO1AX7_jXw

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/critics-notebook-pixels-puts-final-811037

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/pj-o-rourke-how-i-809985

I feel there is a link to these two articles. In part the origins to the pretintious nature of many Hollywood comedians.

>>43482

Eh, the first one is more about how, despite all of his films making money based primarily on his name alone, Sandler’s career arguably peaked with The Wedding Singer and fell from there—mainly because he didn’t grow as an artist/comedian/person.

>>43483
Though my thinking is that many consider themselves to be cultural staples even though they are not. Thinking along the realm that mentality was shaped by those that started SNL and it never really grew beyond that save the earlier comedians that existed before joining and grew beyond the "troupe" did those that came about post SNL the majority to stagnate if they are associated with it. Which affects not only the performer but the audience that watches them.

>>43485

…can you maybe rephrase that in a way that isn’t confusing to read?

>>43486
SNL hasn't changed since its inception and that causes most of those associated it post mid-late 80s to stagnate as comedians. Adam Sandler being the given example of this.

>>43510
Those are adorable. And if the usual suspects are going to get butthurt over "muh forced diversity", then I gotta say: remember Blaise Zabini?

On the other hand it can go too far in the other direction. Like, there was some really dumb drama in Attack on Titan land where BNFs would tell their followers to call out (read: harass) artists for "whitewashing" Eren/Berthold because they didn't draw them sufficiently dark enough when they're tan at most, or insisted that some characters are supposed to be really dark and anyone who disagrees is racist when the manga and anime explicitly show them being really pale. Now that the manga flat-out said "everyone inside the walls is the same race, either everyone is white or nobody is and if you draw them otherwise you can't pretend it's not an AU or racebend" it's moot but it's still pretty ridiculous.

Basically, the age old rule of not forcing your headcanons on other people, especially when actual canon contradicts it.

>>43510
Eh. The thing about racebends that's always annoyed me and seems to be present here once again is East Asians being left out of the equation. Not all people of color are dark-skinned. Plenty of us are naturally even lighter-skinned than stereotypical white people. And for that matter being darker-skinned doesn't automatically make you a person of color either if Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, and the various North Africans and Middle Easterners who self-identify as white are anything to go by. If people are going to say that characters can't be Asian because of their last names but they can be black because of slavery, the article points out that a lot of these reimaginings make them mixed race anyway, so there's nothing saying at least part of them can't be Asian.

>>43510
Seems weird to make them Latino when there aren't a whole lot of them in the UK or Europe in general, but then again the UK was like 95% white people when the books came out so it's not like it's about being super accurate. Also the thing about no wizards in real life.

>>43510
Poor Ron, cursed to be a ginger forever. I do find it interesting that so many artists who seem happy to depict Harry looking nothing like the boy on the cover of the book keep Ron exactly the same as the book describes him. I'm honestly curious as to why that is. Are the red hair and freckles too iconic to imagine Ron without them? Or does the fact that there's no room to argue that he could actually be black because he's canonically white take some of the fun out of the headcanon?

>>43519
He's a poor redheaded ginger bastard. He's always got to be on the bottom.

>>43517
Hogwarts is free because the Ministry of Magic pays for it. Rowling got it right, if your total population is just a few hundred citizens and everyone has magic, then the goverment can pay for your stuff.

>>43521
Been funny if after the Tommy Boy takeover when he decreed only pure bloods could attend that he established ludicrous tuition fees and learned that most pure Wizard families were broke as fuck and we're just trading on their names.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/ghostbusters-scary-ghosts

>Feig detailed some ways in which his movie is going to be quite different from the beloved individual. First stop? Ghosts that are actually scary.

>That’s right, gone are the days of bulbous, binge-eating cuties like Slimer. Based on her conversation with Feig, Ball promises “actually-eerie, pants-shitting ghosts.” That’ll have the ghostbusters quaking in their orange-striped boots.

So is that is ignorance of the subject matter or just arrogance leading to that kinda stupid talk.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9kj2bF8dDNs

Not scary, fuck them.


http://comicbook.com/2015/07/29/male-ghostbusters-reboot-confirmed-by-script-writer/

Least the other seems to still be on track. Maybe it'll catch the spirt it needs to do it right.

>>43523
I'm going to be so upset when the female-led film bombs and the male-led one is a big success and Sony pins it on that aspect, rather than the part where one of them is made by an incompetent bastard who doesn't get the franchise and the other one isn't.

>>43524
>In what world are those not pretty legit scary designs?
"Wait, you mean that every ghost in Ghostbusters wasn't like Slimer? Admittedly, my only experience with the franchise has been seeing the VHS cover in a Blockbuster 15 years ago."

>>43529
Mixed gender eh? That's really good to hear. Definitely going to root for this film then, as long as the women are treated as fairly as the ones in The Winter Soldier.

>>43530
Track record seems pretty solid. And the villain in the Feig version is.. Neil Casey? Another SNL alum I've never heard of.

Looking a lot like the he's just going to be a random dude with ghost powers. Also the Pearce one wants Chris Pratt which would be a good move

>>43529
I would like to see them use Danny Pudi in this alternative Ghostbusters 3, given that they worked with him on Community, and I'd really like him to have a career outside of racist characatures now that Community is mostly wrapped up.

(Also, Pudi is Egon as Fuck, and a Ghostbusters team needs an Egon)

>>43534
I could see it.

>>43536
Better comedians

>>43529

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/30/ivan-reitman-ghostbusters

>“There has been a lot of excitement recently about what is happening with the Ghostbusters franchise. As the producer of the new Ghostbusters film, I feel the need to clarify. There is only one new Ghostbusters movie and that is the Paul Feig directed version coming next July, presently filming and going fantastically. The rest is just noise,” Reitman said.

Greater positive buzz and enthusiasm over someone writing a Production Bible and his ideas of who should be in the movie than the Feig film has gotten in the last couple of months. Also word is Aykroyd is out. People might be catching on that they backed the wrong horse.

>>43537
No, better writing. Mose subtle. Less noise.

>>43538
*more subtle

>>43538
Well yea, the other one loaded itself into the whole "Female Ghostbusters" line with no other talk about what it's going to be other than a leaked pitch email they've not acknowledged.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/31/female-ghostbusters-producer-ivan-reitman-denies-all-male-remake-rumours-paul-feig

And we've still got reporting that keeps saying it's others "all male" when we've seen the quite that it's not. Are they attempting to make the other look bad by sticking with that line.

>>43536
Both versions are good comedies as far as I'm concerned.

>>43542
Sadly, I will never think like that again, since a certain web review has changed my mind forever.

This one’s for you, Piper, you magnificent bastard:

//youtube.com/watch?v=c9rrgJXfLns

>>43544
>Rowdy Roddy Piper died
WHAT
AGAIN
fuck this gay earth

>>43545
Atlest he cant get erazed now....

>>43545

Keith David was shocked by the news, glad Saints Row 4 gave them an epic send up. RIP HOTROD

Those guys are assholes, but I sorta agree with the general point. I mean, I wonder how many of those kids have any idea of who are these women and what the hell are they supposed to be.

>>43564
Jesus fuck are people actually talking shit about them visiting a hospital?

I have to barge in and throw a friendly reminder: Not every bitter Ghostbusters fans who is being overly critical of the remake does it because the new 'busters lack penises, plenty of us are bitter and overly critical because it is a friggin' Ghostbusters remake, the most unnecesary thing in history.

Yelling at the girls because they went to an hospital is absurd and stupid, though.

I fucking love Kristen Wiig and I have no doubt she's gonna be funny in this.
I think a reboot of one of the most perfect movies in cinema history is utterly fucking retarded.

Feig was an asshole putting this film out there like that from the start. But apparently he's utter tone deaf in understanding what Ghostbusters is as a decade spanning franchise.

Too much of this current "controversy" seems to be done just to overshadow that people were generally interested in what was going on with the other movie the few weeks. This all seems like the very wrong way to carry on a franchise. Doing way more harm than good with Ghostbusters which saddens me.

>>43569
http://webmup.com/bc019/vid.webm

>>43589
Did Sony have a single hit this summer?

>>43593
FF is Fox, but Sony's single hit was Paul Blart 2.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/sony-box-office-paul-blart

>>43594
OK, that's just embarrassing.

>>43592
ohhhh, now I fear what they'll do to the theme.

>>43594

>Last November, Sony’s former co-chairman Amy Pascal predicted that the studio’s 2015 output would be problematic in an all-caps e-mail: “THERE ARE TOO MANY DRAMAS/NOT ENOUGH TENTPOLES/NO OBVIOUS BREAKOUT HITS."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/08/06/sony-goes-all-in-with-dark-tower-ghostbusters-spider-man-chris-pratt-jennifer-lawrence/

So Biggest news from Sony is throwing tins of shit at the wall AGAIN and see what sticks.

>Antoine Fuqua’s all-star Magnificent Seven remake (Denzel Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, etc.)

Those three right there sound perfect for a Ghostbusters Sequel done right

>>43598
>Magnificent Seven remake
I Cannot think of anything less necessary remake, hell it is itself a remake of Seven Samurai.

>>43598

>Magnificent Seven remake

WHY. The original is a masterpiece. (And I mean the original M7. Though Seven Samurai is a masterpiece in its own right.)

>>43600
Its Modern Hollywood, still chasing the spirt of the Spaghetti Western they never really understood.

Trinity and Nobody films are a great showing of bright hearts dealing with bad people.

//youtube.com/watch?v=wR8COL2GGTw

An embodiment of everything I hate about 90s sitcoms.

>>43612
That's a Mid '90s WB Sitcom right there.

>>43612
Ughhh. I am so glad we got the animated series instead. Even if it was only six episodes.

And now, a Bruce Lee screen test:

//youtube.com/watch?v=1DC9E2KyEqw

//youtube.com/watch?v=hF39e_hnFb8

Will they license a nifty metal theme for Ghostbusters, not likely.

>>43636

It's going to be dubstep.

Also, that lilttle girl in the ghost costume, best part of that video.

So apparently the second season of True Detective was an utter mess.

>>43658
It's a clusterfuck, it's like they tried to combine 3 different series.

>>43658
I fell behind after the third episode and yeah, it really didn't have the strong start of the first season, so it not sticking the landing either doesn't really surprise me.

Ah well, maybe they'll fix things for season three.

>>43658
The close was pretty good though:

//youtube.com/watch?v=hxpKC8bdnsw

OKay just watched True Detective s2e4 and holy shit, they went full on video game level violence this time.

Like, there were a few badass action sequences in the first season, but this was a total fucking bloodbath.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-fantastic-four-fallout-the-future-of-comic-book-franchises/

Nice analysis of the superhero films released and coming forward.

>>43677

That bit about “the movies that could have been” is depressing as fuck—and all the worse knowing Marvel and DC will both make the same mistakes again over the next five years.

>>43678
DC I could see running into that partly because they may not have learned from their mistakes. Marvel seems to have seen where they've faltered over the decades and are putting things in place to keep it from happening. They may have a misstep but I think it will be minor compared to what DC is attempting in a third of the time that Marvel took to get to this spot.

>>43686
I hope the response to their response to the Suicide Squad trailer leaks taught them something at least.

Marvel Studios has produced so far 12 movies, and they have all been hits. If twenty years ago I had told my younger self that in the future there would be three Ironman movies, two of Captain America, two of Thor, two of the Avengers, and that all were high-budget productions instead of shitty made for TV crap, I'd shot myself right there and then, because that older fellow obviously must be some sort of alien doppelganger .

I have no idea why the fans seem to be so anxious, almost looking forward it, to see these movies fail. Have more faith in the Superhero genere, because holy shit, the fact that such a thing exists and it's thriving and wildly popular is mind-blowing. We are living in times of dreams and wonders, and I feel that for some reason the fans have lost perspective of it.

>>43686
I'm also surprised they're jamming yet another set of Batman films into their palette instead of a new hero, possibly an LGBT one. Sure Ben Affleck has shown he's not a bad director at all, but there's already so much Bat-fatigue after a whole trilogy of the films plus his looming appearances in several of the other films. And if DC wants to differentiate themselves from Marvel as the more "experimental" company then more Batfilms isn't the solution.

>>43690

I don’t think they’re looking forward to the actual failure so much as they’re wondering precisely when it’ll happen. Every trend and fad is a bubble, and all bubbles eventually burst; superhero/comic book movies will be no different.

But I think the big problem isn’t so much fatigue of superhero movies as it is the problems with all this “shared universe” bullshit that Marvel started. The MCU was a nice idea—and Marvel’s done a wonderful job of keeping it intact without completely bombing the thing to Hell—but now we’re getting a DC Cinematic Universe, Fox is trying to do an X-Men cinematic/television universe, Universal is still trying to get its Universal Monster Cinematic Universe off the ground, The CW has a minor version of this with the Flash/Arrow crossover stuff (now to include Constantine), and so on. It doesn’t feel like these characters and stories can stand alone from each other any more. Even Guardians of the Galaxy, the most “disconnected” film in the MCU as far as tie-ins, still has a link to the “Earthbound” part of the Universe thanks to Thanos and the Infinity Stones. Audiences will eventually tire of the shared universe schtick, and when that happens, the bubble surrounding the current superhero movie will burst.

The formula for superhero movies needs to change, too. It's not enough to keep rebooting failed attempts at launching characters into film or redoing origin stories over and over (or doing both at the same time; lookin’ at you Amazing Spider-Man). We need a new approach to superhero films that breaks the formula and creates a new one—something that tinkers with the individual parts and finds a way to rebuild how these movies work without sacrificing what people love about them. People will only go see the same movie in different “clothes” so many times before they get wise and go find other things to watch.

It’s not a matter of “if the bubble bursts”, so much as it’s a matter of “when”—and since Ant-Man miraculously succeeded, some point during Phase Three of the MCU seems like the smartest bet for “when”. Marvel might not even burst the bubble; Fox and DC/WB can do that with a high-profile failure of their own (or another failure, in Fox’s case). But the bubble will burst, and when it does, the whole MCU—and the entire shared universe concept vis-á-vis movies—could come crashing down.

Don't forget the Transformers Cinematic Universe. Or the Zaibatsu Cinematic Universe.

Pretty sure the idea of shared universes was already around with the X-Men and Origins which was only distantly linked to the events of the first trilogy.

>>43693
The current superhero "bubble" started in 1998 with Blade, of if you don't count that as a superhero film, then in 2000 with X-men. That's a mighty bubble right there, going strong for a decade and half. I don't know, the doomsayers keep seeing signs and omens that simply are not there. Again, plain, normal moviegoers went to the theaters to watch a friggin' Ant Man movie, how crazy is that?

>>43695

I’ll note that Westerns dominated the cinematic landscape throughout the 1950s—almost one hundred Westerns were put in theaters during 1951 alone—but that bubble eventually burst, too.

Every trend and fad is a bubble. Superhero movies as the summer tentpoles and shared cinematic universes are no different from those aformentioned Westerns.

>>43696
That actually helps my point, it took quite a few decades (with all the massive generational shifts that occured between the 50s and 60s) and several hundred of Westerns to get the market tired for the genre and for that bubble to burst, we are nowhere near as saturated of Superhero films. Perhaps in another 15 years, but right now I am not seeing anything that supports these "2016 will be the beginning of the end" claims I often see on the internet.

>>43697

2016? Hell naw. BvS:DoJ alone will make shitloads of dosh no matter what. 2018 or 2019? Possibly. Phase Three will be nearing its end with Infinity War, we’ll know for sure whether DC’s stab at a shared cinematic universe will pan out into something worth a damn, and God knows what Fox will do with the X-Men and Fantastic Four licenses (not to mention Deadpool).

>>43698
Though we spent most the late '00s and early to mid '10 in the Nolanverse which afterwards with the lackluster display of Rises had some saying people were done with the grim and edgy comic adaptations.

>>43696
I don't think "superhero movies" and "shared universes" need necessarily be synonymous with each other. While the superhero bubble must burst eventually, there's no reason why it should take the concept of a shared cinematic universe with it, it's a perfectly marketable concept in and of itself.

It's why I'm very intrigued with what Universal has planned for its monster lineup, because it seems by far the best candidate for a successful cinematic universe that doesn't involve superheroes (a better candidate than fucking Ghostbusters, that's for certain). The Universal horror movies of the 30s and 40s are the ur-example of a shared cinematic universe, so it's more like a tradition returning to its proper home than a Hail Mary leap at Marvel's success like DC's effort is shaping up to be.

The signs don't look good, unfortunately. Dracula Untold disappeared without a trace, the first "proper" entry in the universe (helmed by Alex Kurtzman of all fucking people) has been pushed back to Spring 2017, and the execs responsible have made clear that it's going to be an action-y PG-13 universe with little actual "horror" in it.

That does make me think, though: what if some company tried to form a shared universe completely out of whole cloth? Completely new characters, original settings, disparate genres targeting different demographics, sensible budgets and auteur directors making well-received films that seem independent of each other, dropping only vague hints that they're connected, until BAM crossover? It'd be a risky endeavour but I'd love for at least one company to give it a go just to see what would happen.

>>43701
>It'd be a risky endeavour but I'd love for at least one company to give it a go just to see what would happen.
You just described TGIF on ABC (well, the earlier part), but shows instead of movies.

>>43702
Yeah, but technically pretty much every TV Show is in a shared universe, all of which was in the head of the little autistic boy from St. Elsewhere.

>>43703
The Promos for Person of Interest and Elementary going into syndication on WGN make me wish they were a shared universe.

>>43703

That explains why John Munch keeps showing up in different shows.

>>43704
I keep hearing good things about Elementary, but have yet to watch an episode.

>Furious 7
>Jurassic World
>Minions
>and now, Straight Outta Compton

http://deadline.com/2015/08/straight-outta-compton-man-from-u-n-c-l-e-weekend-box-office-1201499183/

Outside of Ted 2, Universal is having a good year.

U.N.C.L.E. was good. Not great, but good. Guy Ritchie brings a lot of style to the table but repeats a lot of the same things he did with Sherlock. The plot and scenarios were very predictable, and both the climax and ending were unsatisfying. But the cast was top-notch and it's still a cool action flick regardless. I just wish the theme from the original TV show was somewhere in the movie, but it's not.

>>43753
I love the pacing of the show.

I decided I'm not that much of a fan of Last Week Tonight anymore. I wish John Oliver was more like Jon Stewart and poked fun at events in a sarcastic way, instead of preaching to the audience about how wrong disgusting someone is or how awful the problems in America are. Until the last couple of minutes all the humor comes from references that don't really add anything to what he's talking about.

>>43759
Dang, he really is "Rule 63 Jeanine".

Also, everybody knows the real Ecto-2 in the Real Ghostbusters was an autogyro. Accept no substitutes, kids.

>>43759
>>43765
I was not aware that Chris Hemsworth was a goddamn giraffe.

>>43768
>And another pic of the Boston "refit". to turn locales into New York. Why not just shoot in New York?

Or set the movie in Boston, as a franchise location.

>Tully getting all the women and fame.

My dream for Ghostbusters 3 would have been Rick Moranis coming out of retirement for a bit to play Louis Tully, Mayor of New York City.

>>43768
>Changing tons of things for the sake of change.
I wouldn't really call that "The Fantastic Four Problem."

>>43770
That would have been great, them going to Ghostbusters HQ and Dueling Accents in submitting the paperwork for franchise approval.

"Ghostbaasters whadda you whaaant"

"Need yah heds signatah on this heah fom."

Bit alone may kill a few poor souls.

Though since the other script is still being worked on, maybe there is hope for such things and Louis Tully being Mayor and throwing the Senior Ghostbusters out of his officer.

"That's two mayors you've offended Peter, that enough?"

"No Ray, I think I've got one more left in me."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3206751/Chris-Hemsworth-finishes-shooting-Ghostbusters-said-blast-set.html

And so now he's finished. Now to see how much longer they'll be shooting to get an understanding how much he's in the film.

>>43773
Good idea in theory but in practice there's a million reasons a shoot can either go longer or shorter.

>>43774
True, he's got a lot of movies on his schedule.

>>43775

Including Thor 3 and the Infinity War megashoot.

>>43776
Those films don't start shooting until at least a year later don't they?

>>43787
>Furious 7, Pitch Perfect 2, Fifty Shades of Grey, Straight Outta Compton, Trainwreck
I didn't see any of those movies, how could they be that successful?

>"... and a lack of concern about bringing in the young white male demographic ..."
... My god, I'm part of the problem.

>>43788
Don't feel that bad, aside from young I'm none of those (wouldn't be even if they did add the word "straight") and I didn't either. Maybe I should start checking the Furious series though since it's apparently a lot better than I give it credit for.

Kinda bummed that Fifty Shades of Grey did so well. I thought people had better taste in fap material. I heard it's at least still better than the books.

>>43789

If you’re gonna check out the F&F series, you can actually start with Fast Five. This is where the series moved from “street racing bromance-drama action flicks” to “over-the-top Ocean’s-Eleven-with-cars heist flicks”, and they're arguably much better for that change. Fast Five is the series pinnacle, but Fast & Furious Six was a fun film (“endless runway” aside). I’ve heard Furious Seven is about as good as Six, and it features about as perfect a send-off for Paul Walker’s character as the filmmakers could do given real-life circumstances.

>Kinda bummed that Fifty Shades of Grey did so well.

Given the dearth of such films (at least ones aimed towards women) in mainstream theaters, its success doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’m disappointed in how well it did, sure, but ultimately not surprised.

Furious 7 (I wonder if they are going to try to shorten the title even more for part 8) was a colossally stupid movie. It was also a bollocks-load of fun, a popcorn movie done right. It helps that there is such an overload of charisma by the actors, that you will believe these characters can accomplish these pants-on-head-retarded actions, and look awesome while doing so. It's like how Ash could fire three shots out of a two barrelled shotgun in Army of Darkness, or how Col. Matrix could blow up a building sky-high using one claymore mine (which doesn't even remotely work like that) in Commando, and yet you didn't question it.

Particulary, there is a scene towards the end of the movie involving The Rock, that convinced me if there is ever a Flex Mentallo movie to be made, he should get the part. I do belive that the man can alter reality by flexing his muscles.

>>43791

The Rock can alter reality just by raising his eyebrow. He is that damn good.

>>43790
Welp, you convinced me.

>“street racing bromance-drama action flicks”
>“over-the-top Ocean’s-Eleven-with-cars heist flicks”
Thanks for summing up my main problem with the series beforehand. The latter definitely sounds up my alley.

>>43794
Why are you so convinced a freakin Ghostbusters movie is gonna get an R rating?

>>43795
I'm looking at Feig and his track of films. All the recent ones are R rated comedies and same goes for his lead. I'd be surprised if this hits a pg13 rating. But given how set they are on it being a comedy like all the others hollywood fawns over I cannot see it not getting an R rating. We'll see but I'm pretty sure it'll be R.

>>43796
James Gunn's directed Rs. GotG wasn't one.

It's a pretty ill informed little assumption to think a franchise movie wouldn't be a PG13, especially given you're assuming the producers surrendered any control over their cash.
Or unless you want to stick to your logic. In which case you should be lamenting the peanuts movie being rated R too.

>>43798
Peanuts doesn't have a "funny girl" cast known for R movies and production claiming to have "actual scary" ghosts. But you could be right as Robocop reboot was a tepid PG-13 slog.

So maybe it will be a standard PG-13 Affair. Right now I really hope it will at least work even it it doesn't get the massive appeal like the original did. I'd hate for it to be a massive blowout like Fantastic Four and pretty much doom the franchise to be shelved infidelity. But as combative as they are with the fanbase right now its a bit worrying with the actual concerns some fans have about the changes being drowned out by both sides, so they never get heard.

Also, on a lighter note holy shit Feig was that luckless teacher from Sabrina

>>43790
>and it features about as perfect a send-off for Paul Walker’s character as the filmmakers could do given real-life circumstances.

It does. I like the movies but don't really care much for the characters, and yet I do admit the ending made me tear a bit. You could feel Vin Diesel actually meant every word he was saying, that it was a honest good-bye and not just an actor reading from a script.

//youtube.com/watch?v=unnLg1TPCYM

Oh Joy something that won't just have Lucy Lawless on for just an episode..I hope. But yea EVIL DEAD SERIES YEAAAAAAA!!!

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/71475/20150830/ghostbusters-3.htm

An interesting rundown of what we know so far in the film. Wonder what happened to cause them not to just film in New York.

>Wes Craven is dead

Fuck cancer.

>>43835
well shit

Crap, is he the start of another cycle? We my loose Tim Curry in one of these.

>>43835
The Oscar Death Reel is going to have to be a seperate 3 hour special this year. I mean damn.

//youtube.com/watch?v=yDf6eXu47YI

FUCK. This is my fucking aesthetic when it comes to music. The '80s vibes from this song give me life.

>>43839
//youtube.com/watch?v=kFafKvgpIRo

//youtube.com/watch?v=A9ew7glBHy0

It’s a few months old, but I’m just now getting around to reading this essay by Film Crit HULK, and goddamn it’s good stuff:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/01/13/film-crit-hulk-smash-dialogues-gone-girl-and-the-maybe-art-of-post-feminist

>>43878
I pretty much approve of everything I've ever read from Film Crit Hulk. Even the movies he loves that I don't, I am 100% behind his philosophy on entertainment and his way of approaching discourse about it.

>>43878
I get that it's part of his gimmick, and maybe I'm just a pissbaby, but god is it hard to read his posts because of the all-caps.

>>43884
There are sites that will convert all-caps text to normal text. He links to a few of them here and there for the sake of pissbabiespeople who have problems with the typography.

>>43878
That was a long read, but well worth it. The person they linked to (La Donna Pietra) also has some pretty great stuff.

I wish I could print this out and show it to every person I've seen on Tumblr who gets mad because a work dared portray its female character as anything less than a total Mary Sue, or who buys into the YFIP-esque belief that any problematic viewpoint a character ever expresses necessarily reflects some hidden belief on the part of the author/actor.

>>43878
I've been enjoying his work more recently than before, but I never agreed with his theory about films having multiple acts. Or, the theory that we should be writing films with more than three acts. It never sit well with me, since simplifying a movie's structure to three acts is done to make it easier to focus on the essentials. There's no benefit to writing a 28-act movie besides complicating the matter.

>>43888
This is a silly argument, and "Merlynn132" is a silly collection of letters and numbers for making it. Max Caulfield from Life Is Strange is arguably a "Galbrush" and I haven't seen "teh feminists" call for Dontknod's public execution for that design choice, if anything it's been the opposite.

>>43889

>the theory that we should be writing films with more than three acts

Hey, five-act structure works for one-hour TV dramas.

>>43888
Did you really copy-paste a youtube comment to parade around you were so proud of it?

>>43890
FILMCRIT HULK essentially made the same argument and asked fellow feminists not to call the complex and flawed female antagonist in Gone Girl sexist.

Speaking of which: feminists called Gone Girl sexist because women shouldn't be portrayed like that!! Galbrush Dilemma applies.

>>43892
That's a screenshot, and it wasn't me.

>>43888
You know... back when the Tomb Raider reboot was in it's hype cycle, and the controversy of Lara being both physically and mentally abused in the game arose, I recall "uh... it's because she is a woman? Where were all these people when Spec Ops The Line broke it's main character into pieces?"

>>43896
True though he's a male so he should be able to handle that. But also it wasn't just that Laura was being abused it was because it was largely gore porn with her body being messed up in the most graphic ways possible.

>>43890
Of course not--Life is Strange actually has lots of female characters. People who argue "You can't write a female character with X trait or people say it's sexist!" are overlooking the fact that it only ever sends that message when a person with X trait represents the majority of the female presence in a work.

Like in the first Avengers movie, Black Widow was effectively the only female character in the movie. Therefore any trait she possessed *did* represent the movie's entire take on women. So yes, things they do to Black Widow in that movie would run the risk of representing sexist dialogue. Likewise, when you only have one token black character in an entire universe, giving that token black character stereotypical features makes it appear you are buying into stereotypes against black people.

You get around that very simply: by not having one person be the entirety of the audience's experience with a particular group. You want to have a black character who's a criminal? Fine! Just have more black people so that we see not all of the characters are like that. You want a female character who's guilty of some horrible character flaw? ADD MORE FEMALE CHARACTERS AND DON'T GIVE THEM ALL THAT FLAW.

It is stupidly simple to avoid these sorts of complaints. The people who make them are acting like this is difficult because they see inclusion itself as some sort of favor they're doing for minority groups rather than just fucking writing genuine characters with genuine representation of the world we actually live in. The thing is, the people who make these complaints don't want to do that because it interferes with what they're actually writing--pure self-insert power fantasy. And they don't want to deal with the idea of having to have their self-insert character be black or a woman or something.

Basically, trashy writers hate getting called out on how much they suck at writing anything genuine, and trashy audiences defend them because all those audiences want is trashy power fantasy they can insert themselves into. And, like the writers, they don't want to have to pretend to be a woman or a minority.

>>43898
I don't disagree with your main point, but Black Widow might not be the best counterexample. The only real complaints about Black Widow in the first movie I saw were either wanting more women so she didn't feel so token, which is perfectly valid, or a vocal minority of morons who were convinced Loki (a villain so stupidly evil only the biggest /pol/tard or husbandofag can still find him sympathetic) calling her a cunt was a case of Joss Whedon sneaking a subliminal misogynist agenda into the film.

Then in the second movie you had Helen Cho, Laura Barton, Black Widow's boss, and Scarlet Witch so Black Widow was no longer the only important female, but this was the one where people actually started going "one female character out of six had some dialogue which could be construed as a negative trait, even then it falls under what Film Crit Hulk was talking about, therefore it's sexist!". Though it's considerably muddied by the fact that the vast majority of people whining about it are butthurt shippers finding a convenient source of ammo to feel self-righteous over, and often expressing misogynist views of their own ("this movie is sexist! but stuffing Hawkeye's wife in the fridge so my OTP can happen? yes please!").

>>43899

In fairness, Black Widow calling herself a monster because she was forcibly sterlized is A BIT MUCH.

>>43900
I took that to mean the sum total of her crimes as a Black Widow, and the connection with her sterilization the result of bad editing.

>>43900
I am pretty sure she called herself a monster for all the bad shit she had to endure to become the Black Widow, the culmination of it was the sterilization

>>43903
>If The Greatest Soldier Who Ever Lived can take it, so can a lost mid-20's girl who got lost!
Context, brother.

>>43904
>>43904
Both are videogame characters in an action game, brother. The "lost mid 20's girl" by the end of the game had killed more people than Big Boss usually does in his own games, so much for context!

Again, the argument boils down to "she is a girl", which IS actually pretty damn sexist.

>>43905
I've seen this comparison between the punishment meted out to Lara and Captain Walker before, but I'm not sure it's really applicable as beneath the torture Tomb Raider and Spec Ops: The Line were trying to achieve very different things.

Spec Ops: The Line is a deconstruction of the kind of macho action-movie heroics that typify the Call of Duty series and other military shooters. We see a trained Army Ranger being thrown into the kinds of set-pieces that most shooter protagonists breeze through without a sweat, but over the course of the game this relentless conflict and bloodshed destroys him as a person. At the end of the game he's a shell of his former self, a "survivor" in name only, and in no fit state to be considered a hero or even a functioning human being. It's taking a thesis that Metal Gear Solid took ten games to tell and neatly summarising it in a single harrowing experience.

Tomb Raider is trying to do almost the exact opposite, it's not trying to destroy Lara, it's trying to build an anonymous young girl into the Lara Croft we all know and look up to. It's not a deconstruction, it's a straight-up hero's origin story, trying to explain where the pistol-wielding thrill-seeking tomb raider came from. But here's where the torture porn aspect of Lara's trials works against the narrative: after hours upon hours of relentless pain and horror that would make any one of us want to crawl into a dark room and never leave the house for the rest of our lives, what in all of these experiences could possibly drive Lara to strike out and want more of it? I'm speaking as someone who appreciates what Tomb Raider was trying to do and think that its execution was very well done, but the game's critics who complain about the lack of actual "tomb raiding" have a point on a basic narrative level - there's hardly ever a moment of wonder in all of this carnage, no moment where Lara stops and sees something beautiful in her fraught isolation that makes all of this carnage worth it somehow.

The people that say "how come its fine for a man to go through the wringer and not fine for a woman?" are missing the point - Walker doesn't make it through the wringer, he started a trained elite soldier and ended up a shriveled wreck. Lara starts as a fresh-faced archaeology student who's done some spelunking, and we're expected to believe that she can go through the same wringer and end up stronger for it. Spec Ops: The Line is all about taking the concept of "redemption through violence", pounding the gamer's face with it and asking 'ya feeling "redeemed" yet, you horrible person?' Tomb Raider plays "redemption through violence" entirely straight, and yet puts the character through the exact same ordeal. Why should inflicting torture on a character be soul-crushing in one case and "empowering" in the other? Neither games are especially realistic, to be sure (no matter how much grime they throw at the screen), but it seems self-defeating to have a heroic origin story and inflict the same crippling pain upon the main character as a deconstructive excoriation of the whole concept of heroism.

>>43906
Well next game looks to have Laura suffering some PTSD though we don't know much of the contet, its likely a framing device and her time with the shrinks takes place after her next game.

>>43906
Well next game looks to have Laura suffering some PTSD though we don't know much of the contet, its likely a framing device and her time with the shrinks takes place after her next game.

>>43903
The devs also talked about how they wanted to do these terrible things to Lara Croft because they wanted the player to want to protect her. Pointless tragedy and gorn because they thought it was what made a strong female character. It was gore porn with sexist intentions, despite your attempts to make it true equality.

>>43908

That feels like a cheap-ass cop-out—and it reeks of the “It was his first fight” arguments used to defend the massive collateral damage and lack of saving lives in Man of Steel. We see all these things happen to Lara Croft/because of Superman, but the game/movie itself doesn’t address the actual consequences of those things.

>>43911
And according to the next game being "Rise of" she's still not near where old Lara was as an adventurer.

>>43913
Maybe. "The Red Shirts are coming!" was pretty darn silly, and not in a good way.

Black Mirror is coming back!

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-09-07/charlie-brookers-black-mirror-to-become-a-netflix-show

>>43917
Curious, is there any way to watch it live without a TV?

>>43918
Hope they do, Broadcast may not be dying as quickly as Cable but its still a factor. Also hope he doesn't have the hiccups in viewership changeover like Conan at NBC did and they screw him over in a panic.

>>43918
Not really an answer but check out the Late Show with Colbert youtube channel. They uploaded a whole bunch of the clips. I'm not sure if it's the whole episode or not but it's quite a lot of it.

OK, that Oreos meta joke was fucking genius.

I liked the first episode of Colbert's new show but the second wasn't nearly as good. The Scarlett Johannsen interview and "Big Furry Hat" skits were just cringeworthy.

>>43927
They are quickly going to force him out of his element to keep with the standards they have grown used to and appeal to their older demographics. We'll see what happens.

>>43927
I actually loved the Big Furry Hat sketch. That and the Mentalist Switch from episode one felt very Conan-esque (and that's likely because one of the writers was from Conan). I didn't see the interview well, because my affiliate keeps fucking up the picture, but Colbert was interrupting her too much. I'm sure he'll ease back in time, but that's the only off-putting thing about the new show. The Kendrick Lamar performance was fantastic.

Last night's interview with Joe Biden, however, was terrific. This is something I don't think Colbert could have pulled off if he was playing his Colbert Report character.

//youtube.com/watch?v=opVaEC_WxWs
//youtube.com/watch?v=XwmMPytjrK4

>>43929
>That and the Mentalist Switch from episode one felt very Conan-esque (and that's likely because one of the writers was from Conan)

Yeah, they felt super-heavily like Brian Stack pitches, because the former was basically "In the Year 2000" complete with rafter based clothing, and the latter was the Walker: Texas Ranger Lever reborn.

>>43929
Not a huge fan of Conan so maybe that's why. Big Furry Hat seemed a little, I don't know, lolsorandom. The Scarlett under the stars sketch was also a little infantile for me.
I liked the Mentalist gag fine. Although I would've preferred it if it stayed as a Colbert Report-esque pure visual gag so the actual switchover becomes that much funnier.

The Visit has surprisingly gotten good reviews. I wonder if this will encourage M. Night Shyamalan to be a tongue-in-cheek director.

>>43934

God, I hope not. It was bad enough when he did that shit by accident.

>>43929
God, that was somber.

>>43936
Those are the interviews he likes, the celebs seem to bore him after a while. While Stewart runs the Opposite and actually despises all the political stuff according to reports post Daily Show.

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/90674/20150911/ghostbusters-reboot-updates-first-trailer-tobin-spirit-guide-publication-merchandise.html

http://tribecacitizen.com/2015/09/13/seen-heard-ghostbusters-vehicles/

http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2015/09/10/ghostbusters-filming-in-nyc-this-weekend/

>Tobins Spirit Guide becoming a legit physical item.
Good, its written by the people doing the comics that understand all the ends and outs of the lore so that's a plus.

>Some Filming in New York finally
But it looks to be Secondary Work with only stunt crew being seen. Likely to bolster the Green Screen New York setup they have been using at an airfield. Sony baffles me sometimes.

Though I still hope and thing its likely that it was the current Mayor of New York being an asshole and not wanting the big production tying up things.

I mean I just cannot fathom the whole New York via Boston and a Green Screen Times Square.

>Mattel doing the toys
Dammit. Here I was hoping for a good Female Punk Egon that wouldn't be some Matty Exclusive crowdfunded garbage.

>>43929
That was super depressing. Not stuff he could have done on Colbert Report.

So I'm hearing good buzz about The Martian, after Ridley Scott's recent spate of not-so-good *cough*terrible*cough* films. Haven't read the novel but I'm hoping it's more scientifically accurate than Gravity was.

>>43939
Even back on The Colbert Report, he did basically drop character entirely for a few minutes on the show after his mom died.

Seeing a few stirrings of the pot that Colbert should lay off the weighty talks and just go with fluff. Don't agree as I am looking forward to what he was to talk about with Sanders on Friday. Be leagues ahead of whatever Jimmy and Hillary cringe through.

//youtube.com/watch?v=owgrkAQ-Log

That is a very large orangutan.

>>43942
>Jimmy and Hillary
Neither side of that interview will bring anything of value.

Fallon in insipid, and Hillary's completely lost the ability to say anything of substance in an interview.

>>43943
Stupid Sexy Voiced Snake.

>>43943
That Orangutan is like the size of two gorillas.

Also- Man, Disney really doesn't like the whole "raised by wolves" part of the Jungle Book, huh?