/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

>Fox still claims to be interested in doing a sequel to Fantastic Flop despite the critical and financial trashing it got

Give the studio a few months to properly defend the movie (and rush it out on home video to get whatever it can out of those sales). Once the full travesty of Fant4stic has passed, I doubt Fox will say anything about a sequel to one of the worst critical and financial superhero bombs of all-time.

>>43715

So if not the Fantastic Four what will be the next thing Fox trades that Marvel will then weave into gold? I'm guessing some of the X-men Second String they've not used when they go for the TV show rights. Hooray now we've got an actual supporting cast for AoS and some more stuff to include in Netflix.

>>43717
According to some articles, Fox is trying to negotiate the right to even air an X-Men TV show, since the only rights they have from Marvel are for film. It would be the most logical deal. Dump the copyright that acts as a money sink for them in order to focus on the one they actually succeed with.

>>43716
Shame she can't act worth a damn.

>>43718

I'm sure Marvel would be happy to trade away those TV rights and a shitload of dosh for the Fantastic Four rights (which also includes Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus—the latter two of whom would be great for a Cosmic Marvel movie or a future Avengers installment).

>>43720
I can see them charging as much as how much they lost from Fantastic Four, but they also might try to scalp Marvel because they know how much it's worth to them or out of spite.

>>43721

Uncle Mickey’s got enough money to handle The Big Bad Fox.

>>43724
Yes, but does Uncle Mickey think the money he'd make back from securing F4 would be worth the hassle?

>>43731
>Galactus
>Dr.Doom
>Silver Surfer
>Skrulls
>Annihilus

Skrulls alone would add a whole new phase on their own with Secret Invasion. And with Sliver Surfer we can have Planet Hulk done up right and finish fleshing out and with Annihilus and Super Skrull in house its time for the Cosmic Marvel to get going full speed.

Yea as scary as it is, getting that all back would open up another fifteen years of films.

>>43733

And maybe a TV/Netflix miniseries or three.

>>43731
>>43733
Don't forget Kang/Immortus.

>>43737
Is it bad the first thing that popped into my head was Kiss from a Rose?

>>43738
And Kang could be the method to get them into the modern era without needed a whole movie dedicated to it.

>>43733
It's almost like you don't need to make a Fantastic Four movie. Just take all the things people like from the series and put them in other movies. Make Dr. Doom the Iron Man villain he was always destined to be.

>>43741
Iron Man is an even worse superhero than Reed Richards, and what conflict would Doom have with Stark? All Stark's villains are basically just trying to steal Tony's stuff, and Doom is, at this point, so much smarter/more competent than everyone that he'd never need to steal anything.

>>43744

Hmm.

Just spitballing off the top of my head here, but what about Black Panther? Doom probably needs shitloads of vibranium for Doombots, and that desire could result in a nation-to-nation war between Latveria and Wakanda.

>>43748
But then they'd adapt Doomwar and nobody wants that.

>>43749
Why not, it sounds awesome.
Is it boring political stuff or something?

>>43750
Terrible writing for T'Challa and Shuri. Also horrifically mangling Storm's character but she can't marry T'Challa (thank god) because she's not in the MCU.

Evangeline Lilly says she's been fitted for a Wasp suit, so she'll be in either a Sequel or Infinity Wars possibly. If they could swing the budget I'd love a Netflix series of Hanks old adversaries coming out of hiding to have a go at the new duo.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-fantastic-four-movie-that-could-have-been-actually-sounds-fantastic
>So, how come we didn't end up with that version? Well, from what Birth.Movies.Death puts together, the version Slater planned was simply too much money. Fox wanted a cheap FF film -- considering how badly received the previous two versions were -- and wanted it done fast. So, instead, we get a similar opening act but stretched out for way too long, filled with hallways and indoor labs. You know, really cheap set pieces.

Ugh, if it's true it wouldn't surprise me. Although if Fox really was concerned about saving money then why did the final thing still cost $130 million? And surely they could've kept more of the Slater script without expense to the budget.

>>43761
$130 million is pretty normal for a SFX-heavy action movie these days. Ant-Man was the cheapest movie Marvel Studios has produced so far (yes, cheaper than the first buch of movies made 6-7 years ago), and it cost just as much.

>>43761

Part of the final costs included a bunch of re-shoots after principal photography ended.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/mrsundaymovies/news/?a=124464
The two sides of Civil War. Could be interesting.

>>43804
A war of ten people, yay. That's my problem with the MCU adapting Civil War, in the comics the event involved hundreds of superhumans, here we have a registration act to regulate a handful of individuals, many of them with no real superpowers. It's kinda ridiculous.

Also, Vision alone could beat Cap and his team in seconds.

>>43805
Having that many characters would ruin the movie to be shit though. It's only even Civil War in the first place because RDJ got greedy and they'll probably be fighting for the second act. The SHRA could stick around for future movies though.

>>43805

>in the comics the event involved hundreds of superhumans

If this were a TV series instead of a movie, we could maybe—maybe—swing a couple dozen at most. A cast of hundreds is manageable in comics, where endless spinoff stories that aren't necessarily required reading can exist. In TV and movies, there needs to be a reasonably-sized core cast of main and supporting characters to weave a story around. This image imples an eleven-person “core cast” (you missed Ant-Man) for Civil War. There’s also Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, Nick Fury/Coulson/SHIELD, whoever the villain is, and any other characters from the existing MCU that might have a line or two (e.g. General Ross, Bruce Banner) to consider. Keeping track of a cast that big would be a monumental task—just look at The Walking Dead, which has to keep killing people off to make room for new characters. Unless you want a movie where hundreds of superheroes exist only to die for the sole purpose of offering a “more accurate” adaptation of the comic storyline, lower your goddamn expectations a little.

>>43804
Oh, hey. Hawkeye finally has an outfit that looks vaguely like Hawkeye.

>>43807
The problem with Civil War without the scope of HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF SUPER POWERS is that it ends up being even less justified than it was in the comics (where it was also dumb)

Making a big dumb deal out of registering powered people, when SHIELD already did that (and spent a lot of one of the last few movies being run by insane Nazis) just feels kind of empty.

>>43807
Fury and Hill aren't going to be in the movie. Seems like the movie is going to ignore Ultron's ignoring of SHIELD being dead.

>>43810
Because it's not really about registering supers. Agents of SHIELD already has something just like that called the Index. It's about accountability and making sure they don't make a situation worse by being too reckless or whatever. I don't even know if the movie is going to call them Pro- or Anti-Registration, people are calling it that because the comics did.

>>43812

What he said. Civil War isn’t about registering supers because most of their identities are already public knowledge (Tony leaked his own, Cap’s was already in the history books, and any others would’ve likely become public when SHIELD’s secrets were leaked in Winter Soldier).

They already said Civil War wasn't going to be like the comics except in the barest sense so it's still too early to judge. Depending on the way the story goes having many more characters may even defeat the point the movie is trying to make.

>>43814
>They already said Civil War wasn't going to be like the comics except in the barest sense

Which is good, because Civil War was a dumb story.

Via /co/ prime:

>Meanwhile, at Fox's executive offices:

>Well, we made a bomb.
>We've burned the bridge with Trank. He'll never work for us again.
>We're definitely not gonna make back our budget, that's for sure.
>“Fantastic 5%”, I believe the term is now?
>The F4 name will never be taken seriously again, what with two bombs in a row.
>Not like the first one did that much better, either.
>And to top it all off, we can't even make that X-Men crossover anymore.
>…
>BUT AT LEAST WE GOT TO KEEP THE RIGHTS!
>HELL YEAH, MOTHERFUCKER!
>[Turn Down For What intensifies]

>>43817
Least its a better setup than "reality show D-list Superheros nuke a school"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marvel-shake-up-film-chief-819205

Hmm. I wonder if this will mean movies getting more diverse. It was Perlmutter who claimed nobody wants to see female-led movies and put his foot down against them. I don't know what effect this will have on the TV series though.

>>43841

And like the article said, Ike is a notorious spendthrift. Now Marvel Studios will get to spend Disney levels of dosh to make its movies.

>>43841
Hrm. But Jeph Loeb and Perlmutter remain in charge of TV properties.

>>43841
This is a good thing. Perlmutter is an asshole, and not all but a lot of Marvel Studio's more disagreeable policies (lack of protagonist diversity, the spite towards Fox properties in the comics, refusal to pay actors and staff a decent salary, forcing them to pay for their own amenities when nobody else in Hollywood does that) largely come from him.

>>43842
>spendthrift
I think you got your words mixed up there. Spendthrifts are people who spend money willy nilly, you probably mean miser. But I do look forward to seeing how the movies will look now that they can afford to splurge a little more. They've managed pretty well with the budgets they've currently been allowed.

Now that Ike is gone I hope that increases the chances of Marvel being willing to make a deal with Fox over the Fantastic Four rights.

What's Alan Horn like? Apparently he's somewhat involved in Kingdom Hearts stuff, which is cool.

>>43845

>Now that Ike is gone I hope that increases the chances of Marvel being willing to make a deal with Fox over the Fantastic Four rights.

The only deal I could really see being made would be an exchange of rights (Fantastic Four film rights for the X-Men TV rights) and dosh, so it would probably involve Perlmutter in some way.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/marvel-studios-ike-perlmutter-kevin-feige

While it's great the movies can afford to spend more sprucing up their films I'm not sure if it's wise to change their practice of choosing talented lesser known and cheaper actors for their big roles because of the extra money. If they shoot for too many A-listers they'll end up with Batfleck syndrome where the actor is TOO famous and overshadows the role. It's already kinda happening with Strangelock Cumberbatch.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/09/02/the-marvel-creative-committee-is-over
Ok now THIS is interesting though Faraci is kind of a Feige fanboy so I dunno how true it is.

>>43855

If it’s legit, it could be a game-changer. The possibility of no more Edgar Wright situations (and actual goddamn Black Widow merch) would be huge.

>>43856
Though too many are saying it was them that made him quit instead of him dragging his feet for almost a decade and then running into the Marvel Cinematic Universe that had come about make his project woefully outdated with what had come to pass.

Was the creative committee slow? Sources point to yes, was it their fault expressively that made Wright walk, no. I'm just pointing at this because I think acknowledging the problems that arose in that relationship, I believe Wright could still have a place with a Marvel Film. Howard the Duck I think would do well by him. Though I think it would be a better Netflix series.

>>43857
>him dragging his feet for almost a decade
To be fair to Wright he had no idea his friend would get cancer.
The whole thing got screwed over by outside forces.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/09/03/welcome-to-feige-island-why-kevin-feige-canned-the-marvel-creative-committee-of-dan-buckley-joe-quesada-and-brian-bendis/

Plot thickens. Although since the people being ditched are Joe Quesada and Brian Michael Bendis, I'm inclined to think this is a good thing.

>As The Hollywood Reporter first reported Aug. 30, Feige and his highly successful film division now will report to Disney Studios chief Alan Horn instead of Perlmutter, the New York-based executive who oversees the Disney-owned company. Multiple sources say that Feige's years of frustration came to a head in part over the making of the third installment of the Captain America series, which recently completed filming in Georgia. Others say it was a move whose time finally had come because the film division slowly has gravitated toward Disney and now will based on the Burbank studio lot.

...

>Sources say the budget on Civil War ballooned accordingly, which didn't sit well with the famously frugal Perlmutter. “New York wanted to scale it down,” says one insider. Marvel and Disney declined to comment.

>“New York” in this case wasn’t just Perlmutter, 72. It was also Marvel's so-called "creative committee," a group of execs from Marvel’s various divisions including publishing as well as Alan Fine, Perlmutter’s right-hand man. The collective has been around since nearly the inception of Marvel Studios in the mid-2000s, offering critiques of creative choices as well as input on business decisions. Insiders say that with Feige breaking free of Perlmutter and the New York side of the company, the committee will not be disbanded but its influence over the Marvel movies will be nominal at best.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvels-civil-war-why-kevin-820147

>>43860
How big and stupid do you need to get when Bendis and Queseda start telling you to rein your shit in?

>>43860
>Sources say the budget on Civil War ballooned accordingly
That's kind of to be expected when you've got RDJ. He alone accounted for like a fifth of Age of Ultron's budget.

Speaking of Civil War, Mark Ruffalo has confirmed that Hulk won’t be showing up.

>>43863

Maybe Tony spaced him before things went down because he knew he'd be a liability.

>>43863
Good, he wouldn't make sense in that movie except as backstory justification for the SHRA analogue. Showing up in person would fuck the point of that up.

>>43865

I think Hulk will be part of the justification, but if the leaked spoilers about Civil War are to be trusted, another part of that justification will be the Avengers fucking up their fight with Crossbones and causing another round of collateral damage. The SHRA analogue exists in this film so the world governments can regulate when and where the Avengers operate to minimize collateral damage. It’s literally a “who watches the watchmen” situation.

>>43875
Yea I really doubt that, just so happens the most lackluster films are the ones they had the least influence. I guess to the layman that doesn't read comics for long periods and doesn't know the styles of that Braintrust could be fooled by such a claim.

>>43875

This seems too coincidental. I can't believe it without more evidence.

It's true IM2 was harmed specifically because Feige himself meddled too hard in it, so I'm wary of him having sole control. But the author is trying too hard to spin correlation into causation and rely on the (probably not entirely true) implication that the MCC's involvement is inversely proportional to Feige's, when a positive report of the degree of Feige's input on each movie would've been the more meaningful thing to report on if there was actually a pattern to be found in it. I mean, some of the people on this committee are Quesada, Millar, and Bendis. They can barely idea their way past the comics medium, let alone live-action.

Also go ahead and laugh, but I enjoyed IM3 and AOU and hated GOTG and Thor 2.

>>43880
Okay I have too ask... What was wrong with GotG?

>>43881
Wait I get it!
Both that brooding boars who wants to kill everyone with a magic rock as a bad guy.
They even have kind of the same look.
That fucking sucks when you think about it and if that goes away with Feige(whoever that is) that I may give a shit.

>>43881
I found most of the humor really unfunny and fratboyish. Star-Lord was such a manchild it became actually annoying and was only saved by being Chris Pratt. Gamora was bland and underwhelming. And yeah, Ronan was a really awful villain, though I think bad villains are Feige's fault since the Sony emails showed him pushing for focus on heroes over villains.

It wasn't all bad though. Yondu was pretty badass, the Collector was cool for the short amount of time he was on, and Rocket provided some genuine emotional drama.

http://www.nerdspan.com/rumors-marvel-studios/

Even if the Creative Committee did have more input on some of the movies considered "good", that's not to say the advice was of any value, or that it was even taken. Their plans for how the first Captain America movie should go were awful, and it was Feige who pushed for Rocket Raccoon.

Jessica Jones gets a teaser trailer—and a release date:

//youtube.com/watch?v=ywZE-NEJ2Ik

>>43924
Over/under on Paul Rudd showing up as Scott Lang?

Good I'd say. Be a good world to put She-Hulk doing her law thing into

//youtube.com/watch?v=GeDJAKvcZ9o

Yup.

>>44005
It's noticeable that they admit it is not a bad movie at all.

>>44005
I like that the sanest package of criticism for this movie comes from a goddamn comedy series.

>>44006

It’s not really a bad movie, so much as it’s a mediocre one, especially when compared to a 2015 flick about a road trip across a barren wasteland. (And no, I don’t mean Vacation.)

>>44005
While I do agree with almost all points in the honest trailer, there is also this

>the heroes fight a lot of faceless generic bag guys

See, this is a very common complain about the movie, and I just don't get it. Superheroes punch a LOT of generic goons, it comes with the material.

Let's take the Nolanbats trilogy (not really trying to stir the Marvel Vs DC fires, just taking what's considered the cream of the crop of the superhero genere), in Begins the cannon fodder that Batman punched for most of the nmovie were generic mafia thugs and generic Ninjas. TDK had the Joker's goons, which were generic and unremarkable (at least Burton's Joker had good ole' Bob!). TDKR had a ton of League of Shadows mercs, and besides Bane can you name any of them, or remember any that was particulary interesting?

In Man of Steel, besides Zod and Faora, the only other Krptonian baddie who isn't just background noise is Nam-Ek, and the guy literally was faceless. Ironman had the generic Ten Rings cannon fodder. Captain America had the generic Hydra cannon fodder. In X-Men DOTFP, I don't recall Nimrond Sentinel #1 having a nuance that distinguished him from Nimrond Sentinel #2 and #3.

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate when a movie does give some color and personality to the henchmen (yes, Fury Road is a great example of this), but complaining about something as normal, standard and commonplace as "the heroes punch lot of faceless cannon fodder" is a bit silly to me.

>>44009

>Man of Steel
>the only other Kryptonian baddie who isn't just background noise is Nam-Ek

…CUE THE DBZ JOKES.

There is no such a character as "Nam-Ek" in Man of Steel.

No, seriously, there isn't. I know everybody reffers as Nam-Ek to the big guy who assists Faora in the fight with Supers, but check the film's credits. No character goes by that name.

The guy who often gets credited as playing Nam-Ek is Revard Dufresne, but in the actual movie he plays a Kryptonian named Dev-Em.

Perhaps the Dev-Em guy is not actually the same guy fighting alongside Faora (Dev-Em noticeably wears a different armor), and people mistakenly assumed so because the actor is pretty tall. Perhaps that character is indeed Nam-Ek and it doesn't have credits because in the fight he is a CGI construct, I don't know.

>>44009
In the Marvel movie case it's because an indeterminate number of faceless goons isn't a very exciting climax, and both armies have the indeterminate number of faceless goons as the main theat. Man of Steel has faceless henchmen, but the big exciting battle at the end of the film is Zod. Batman films end with complicated schemes and the main villain personally matched up against him. But in Avengers, both films end with the big threat being... a bunch of easily dispatched mooks who are only considered dangerous because there's a lot of them.

>>44012

It’s why the climax to Winter Soldier was so good: while Cap and his compatriots had to deal with the larger threat of Hydra's overall plan and take down loads of faceless goons, each of the major showdowns from the climax were personal affairs (Cap and Bucky, Black Widow/Fury and Pierce, Falcon and Pierce's right-hand man). Compare that to the climax of Age of Ultron, where all of the Avengers were almost exclusively fighting Ultron’s army, the final defeat of Ultron came down to a “post-battle” scene with Vision, and nothing about the “final fight” felt as personal as the Winter Soldier climax.

Even Guardians of the Galaxy suffered from the “impersonal climax” issue by having most of the final fight come down to Ronan and his army vs. the Guardians, the Ravagers, and the Nova Corps. Yeah, you do get to see some personal moments in that huge clash, but the Nova Corps’ sacrifice feels pointless because they’re essentially an army of “good guy goons” that you’re given no real reason to care about, and Ronan’s threat never felt specifically personal to any of the Guardians. Again, compare that to Winter Soldier, where Cap thought of Hydra’s plans as an attack on both America and the ideals for which the country stands—ideals for which he fights. Even Man of Steel took a similar approach by turning two of the climactic action scenes into personal clashes between Superman and Zod/his henchmen despite the larger threat of Zod’s plan.

>>44013
>Pierce's right-hand man
You mean Brock Rumlow aka Crossbones, right?

>>44017

Yes, wasn't sure of the name.

//youtube.com/watch?v=pxIfBEQ9IiU

Test audiences are morons.

>>44020
And that makes the point of marvel using its rouge gallery or something I forgot where I was going with that.
Anyway lego //youtube.com/watch?v=JlS1BZ0ufUU

So Taika Waititi is all but confirmed for Thor 3. His forte is in comedy and the very premise of Thor Ragnarok seems like it's going to be a really serious movie so I'm not sure if it's the best match, but then again it worked magic for The Winter Soldier, and they did say this one is going to be Phase 3's equivalent of that.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/25244/marvel_studios_phase_3_update

Big Phase 3 update. I'm actually pretty excited about the Ant-Man sequel. Glad it's going to be more about the Wasp this time around. Always did like her better.

Marvel continues to take baby steps in making a female superhero movie by delaying Captain Marvel and making Wasp second fiddle to Ant-Man.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/25244/marvel_studios_phase_3_update

In fairness, Thor and Black Panther are getting delayed as well for Spider-Man.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/10/8010257/marvel-delays-thor-black-panther-captain-marvel-inhumans

Wait, my mistake. Black Panther got pushed up Feb 2018. And Thor 3 is set for Nov 2017.

http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-phase-4/

>>44050
>Marvel continues to take baby steps in making a female superhero movie
Atlest this is still coming up.
http://www.therobotsvoice.com/2015/10/new-jessica-jones-teaser-for-purple-man.php

Also with her having been cast, Carol can totally show up early in someone elses movie.

>>44052
Never mind that link
//youtube.com/watch?v=DNgJblTizY8

Wish Wasp had her name put at the forefront of her movie title, but I actually don't really mind Captain Marvel getting delayed. It's disappointing that they're so slow to make a female-led movie, but KSD's Captain Marvel reboot is... really damn mediocre. Like, it's not terrible, but it's really boring, and the Carol Corps is kinda Sueish. She doesn't have enough strong material to make me excited for her in the way that I am for Black Panther. Black Widow might've only been good in one out of the four movies she showed up in but even she's got a stronger foundation.

>>44052
>Also with her having been cast, Carol can totally show up early in someone elses movie.

Looking into this comment, apparently people are assuming Rhonda Rousey is going to be Carol?

Because boourns to that casting, Katee Sackhoff is Carol Danvers.

>>44056
I don't think anyone's been considered yet. Much like they haven't cast anyone for the Iron Fist show, they haven't figure out what they want to do with it yet.

>>44056

It's not so much people are assuming Rousey will get the role, so much as people think she’d be a good fit in terms of having the right “look” for a role like Carol.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/10/09/nycc-15-inhumans-movie-cancelled-by-marvel-as-film-goes-to-war-with-tv/

Hmmm.

meh I think its more

>We don't really need an inhumans centric movie.

And they are right, I mean most of it would be them sitting around in their shining castle in the ocean or the dark side of the moon. And we get that with Thor already.

Also the movie was 4ish years away, cancelling is the same as delaying in that time frame. If this was news about Dr. Strange getting cancelled (not just from a rumor at that) then I might need to check my jimmies for rustling.

>>44060
>Rich Johnston
>"In the New York bars last night I heard from other well connected sources"

This is the same guy who was spewing all sorts of conspiracy theories about Feige vs. Perlmutter even though multiple sources over the last few years explicitly contradict the things he said. I'd take everything he says with a minefull of salt.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-_230SjbM

Ultron: The Lizard King.

To be entirely fair, an Inhumans movie is becoming sorta redundant as the TV show is turning into Marvel's Inhumans of SHIELD.

>>44066
The Inhumans movie would presumably deal with the Royal Family of Attilan, while AOS focuses on them frmo the ground level.

>>44067
Best case scenario, that movie would have been three seasons deep from SHIELD starting to do Inhumans. That's plenty of room to hit the Royals. Just with a worse budget.

>>44068
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/marvel-is-indeed-still-releasing-inhumans-to-theaters-in-2019
It looks like Marvel already cordoned stuff off from AOS so they could save it for the movies, which is unsurprising. Also this article essentially confirms the movie will be focused on the royals.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/hellfire-legion-television-series-marvel-fox-fx-1201618177/

Hmm, so far official sources are denying that FF rights are back at Marvel, but it's possible they have another Sony Spider-Man situation on their hands and are waiting for the movie to leave theaters/hassle out some final bits on the contract. I can't think of what else Fox might give back in return for these rights.

Also, apparently the Hulk is going to be in Thor 3. Good for those of us who don't really care about Thor.

>>44083

Good for Hulk, too. Until Marvel can suss out an idea for a Hulk movie that isn't Planet Hulk or another retread of the same material that Incredible Hulk and the two Avengers films covered, making Big Green part of the supporting cast is the best way of using him.

>>44084
Hope they let Hulk have personalty this time.

Also I'd love seeing Banner freaking Jane and C/O out.
>Hey guys I brought an avanger scients buddy
>Oh, I'd love to meet Mr. Staraahhhhh!

>>44082
Well the rumor mill is putting two X-men related pieces on the floor. As bad as Fox mucked up they may have to settle for Giving back all of FF and just getting joint ownership of TV X-men.

>>44096
Good, I like the mask but it would frankly look pretty stupid in live action.

>>44102
They'll probably put it in a picture or coat of arms though.

>>44102
I don't know. The Helmut version of the mask is basically just a purple balaclava, and that should barely raise an eyebrow.

>>44115
Dunno, that looks kinda dorky. Perhaps if it was on a darker shade of purple.

>>44096
That's disappointing on a profound level.

//youtube.com/watch?v=nWHUjuJ8zxE

>>44122
>oh for got to say something
Speaking of Purple, this looks to be a way better bad guy because fuck.
That policestation clip.

>>44123
So Punisher DareDevil we've already got establish in the gritty streets of marvel. Others I feel fit into this tone are Moon Knight. Sleepwalker and Darkhawk.

So, I guess the "purple" part of the Purple Man is when he uses his powers

Awww lil Beast

Awww lil Beast

>>44172
Man, I wish he could have had a chance to have also commited this level of enthusiam to being the Flash, rather than settling for Green Lantern....

>>44172
Shit, that's adorable.

>REESE: And we had some angels on our shoulder too, this movie had some very quiet unsung heroes. One of them was Jim Cameron, who’s a friend of Tim Miller, and read the script at a key moment a few years back. He said he would read it and we were like, [Sarcastically] “Oh yeah, he will read it.” And literally he read it that night and got back to us the next morning.

>WERNICK: He was procrastinating I think on Avatar 2.

>REESE: But he read it and he went to Jim Gianopulos and he got it on the radar in a really big way. David Fincher was another guy who was a big help for us, he’s also a friend of Tim’s, and he loved the script and he pushed forward with the executives at certain key moments. Having guys like Fincher and Cameron pushing certainly didn’t hurt and we very well might not be sitting here if it hadn’t been for those two guys.

http://geektyrant.com/news/deadpool-writers-reveal-james-cameron-and-david-fincher-helped-get-the-movie-made

I just want to say that I want to watch Iron Fist series over Punisher.
Magic Kung Fu Fighting > Grimdark Gun Guy

>>44219
Well, you are getting it, so... yay?

>>44220
I believe recent rumors point to Punisher getting its own Netflix series, while Marvel will produce an Iron Fist movie for Netflix. With the cause being Marvel is unsure how to adapt Iron Fist and everyone being incredibly pleased with Jon Bernthal as Punisher.

>>44222
I've seen that rumor, and it comes from a [i]really[i] dubious source so I wish people would stop parroting it without further verification. It's possible that it may be true, but we can't say at this point.

>>44225
But we Iron Fist fans still need to make our voices heard just in case.

Ronda Rousey got her shit kicked in (near-literally) last night.

I’m guessing that’ll put an end to those “Rousey will be Captain Marvel” rumors.

>>44237
After watching Sicario, I'm seriously pulling for Emily Blunt.

>>44239
A lot of people are, and she was this close to being cast in the MCU twice, but apparently nobody's approached her for Captain Marvel yet. Maybe she's a little too "grim" looking for Carol but she's definitely got the chops acting wise.

>>44240
She's typecast as the "badass action lady" a lot (which I think Sicario brilliantly subverts since she's the one trying the pull the brakes on a pack of 'roided assholes acting like "badass action dudes"), but I'm not sure she's the right fit for Carol. Danvers is more of a go-getting reach-for-the-stars character, there's a strain of optimism to her badassery. Although Blunt should be able to capture Carol's often-conflicted willingness to leave friends and loved-ones behind to explore the cosmos.

So JJ is up.
DAMN! That first episode.
>>44240
The grim level just went up.

Also
//youtube.com/watch?v=wD3h_bT0Mfg

And so far the biggest complain is "Just call SHEILD on his ass already".

But I love how hard they are pushing Luke.

>>44251

SHIELD doesn't bother with Street Level. Least that has been the excuse in the past.

>>44252
That is severely disproven by Agents of SHIELD, which has pissed about a lot on Street Level.

So how does JJ compare to DD?

>>44255
The first ep of Jessica Jones was better than the first ep of Daredevil, that much I can say.

And its done.

The only bullshit was the "pepole refues to belive in supernatural" thing.
Mindcontroll have been around since the 40's in this universe, for fucks same!
Just call Shield and ask.(why they arnt on top of this)

They deserve to get stepped on by the next big bad with an attitude like that.
Like walk into a busy freeway with your eyes closed.
Fucking stupid.
>>44255
I like it better but then I am not much for street level.(Only when its like TMNT where ANYTHING can happen, muggers, ninjas, aliens, timewizards, its all good.)
Thats way Iron Fist is the one I want to watch the most.

Eh, liked it, but it definitely wasn't as good as Daredevil. Pacing was all over the place, and while Killgrave was great, Fisk was much better used and developed in his show. Plus, the action scenes were meh, it's kinda annoying how the show conveniently forgets that Jessica has superstrength whenever it fits the plot.

So…whose side are you on?

//youtube.com/watch?v=uVdV-lxRPFo

>>44280
The angle makes me think of Magneto way too much.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Tr5IDIMF2uY
*sigh of relief*

>>44280
That's...really good actually.

>>44279
The most comforting thing about that trailer is that the cast looks a lot smaller than the early information let on.

>>44282
1- People back out of contracts all the time.
2- If you think Joe Queseda isn't going to lie to you, you probably don't actually read comics, because man his BS levels are barely sub-Didio.
3- The Defenders ran like 156 issues in it's original series, back when people actually read comic books. Even as a low selling C-tier book, it probably sold better than anything Jessica Jones has ever been in before this TV show.

I really dig that this version of Civil War gives them a bit more personal reason for their positions and keeping it small I think is a boon compared to the comic. Much better than a bunch of Jackass D-Listers blowing up a school.

>>44286
Kevin Feige was saying from Day One that the movie would probably not have a lot in common with the comics. He knows it sucks, he knows people want the movie to be something else.

>>44287
So far it works a bit better, Tony decides that after some soul searching that they need to some oversight. But given what Cap has gone through in fighting HYDRA within SHIELD he doesn't trust anyone taking the role along with their manhunt of Bucky.

Its a pretty good setup.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/captain-america-civil-war-trailer-breakdown/
>“When people leave the theatre, they’re going to be arguing about who was right in the movie, whether it was Tony, or whether it was Cap,” says Joe Russo. “Tony has a very legitimate argument in the movie that’s a very adult point of view, about culpability, about the Avengers’ responsibility to the world, and the world’s right to have some sort of control over the Avengers. It’s a very complicated emotional arc for Tony Stark in this movie. Downey is utterly amazing in the part. I think he’s taking this character he’s been crafting for years and goes to some very risky places in the movie with the character.”
>no Tony the retarded Fuhrer

Thank you based Russos.

>>44290
We've already seen him go through more than we got in the comics, not having the damned Illuminati around I think is a boon to the growth.

>>44291
There are a lot of ways that MCU Iron Man is a lot better as a character than 616 Iron Man.

MCU Iron Man will probably not ever need to be rebooted AS A PERSON multiple times. Between Armor Wars, The Crossing, Civil War, and the Illuminati, (not to mention Superior Iron Man), Tony is basically a villain that sometimes saves the world.

>>44293
And to bring it back to Purpleman, remember this?
//youtube.com/watch?v=OVX4buXghaA

>>44294
Why do you haunt me with these visions of a past long gone?

So I recently got a subscription to Marvel Unmilinted and I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations for me. I've always been more of a DC guy so I haven't read much Marvel stuff.

So far I've read:
Cable & Deadpool
G.L.A.
Spider-Man Noir
Spider-Man Noir Eyes Without a Face
Moon-Knight (not sure what volume, but it was Bendis's run)
I've also read the first few issues of the current Ms. Marvel

So far I've enjoyed all of it. I'm open to just about any character or continuity so whatever you guys think is good feel free to recommend. My only preference is that the story (or story arc) is completed and that it isn't some big crossover event (I'd like to get to know the characters a bit more individually first).

I know there's tons of rec lists and stuff out there, I'm just wondering if anyone here has any specific suggestions. Whatever you think is good or 'mandatory reading.'

>>44309
Whoops, sorry. Thought I was on /co/.

>>44315

That had to go through multiple people. At least two people had to agree on publishing that cover copy.

And they all thought it was a good idea.

>>44315
>he's tall, powerful and has claws a housewife would envy
Jesus christ.

>>44318
Well REAL Housewife, which I guess is referring to any of those shit dramas about a bunch of bitchy women bitching about stuff. That's pretty topical....right?

Okay, so I just learned that one of Kilgraves comic powers is a healing factor.
yay~

//youtube.com/watch?v=COvnHv42T-A
Well this dont seem to be fucking around.

>>44357
So Non Mystique and Battle Buddies.

Some of those CGI affects looking rather janky, Archangel looking really bad. And that Go Fast effect on Quicksliver is just horrible.

Which ends in the question did they cut the budget for this one or just run out in places.

>>44358
The optimist's response is that the CGI isn't finalized. Then the optimist remembers that this is a fox property.

>>44364

Fox is just so odd in their attitude with X-men, people were thrilled at seeing not black leather, then were back to that and worse for most the cast.

Apocalypse showing up would be a great way to bring in Cable since the bit with him is Apocalypse has to be dealt with at a time he's not at his final form and unstoppable.

Did like that once scene hint with him getting huge, but I can pretty much bank on that being in Charles head and not a real ability.

I'd really love a good X-men franchise, but they keep holding back too much and dropping the ball elsewhere.

>>44364
What's so bad about Fox? Fant4stic seems to have been a fluke in terms of shittiness, their last X-Men was great and Deadpool looks like it will too.

Music, television, and film.

So, time for some music. This needs to be heard by lots and lots of people:
//youtube.com/watch?v=NyiZN7_mwa8

>>44367
Did you post in the wrong thread?

People are frothing on the mout at Apocalypse but I honestly think he looks fine. OTOH, his voice sounds too normal, like it was just some guy. Should be very easy to fix in post-production, put some filters there dammit!

>>44371
Sadly, Apocalypse will never reach the heights he hit in the Fox cartoon anywhere ever again.

Now THAT was a guy who monologued like a millenia old blight on humanity.

>>44373
And he was basically unstoppable, unless you used Time Travel to kneecap his power level by messing up his regen cycle.

>>44373
He was also pretty cool and menacing in X-Men Evo, and in the X-Men Legends 2 game the guy got shit done HARD. I mean, he nuked NY midway through the game. And he gets kudos for being the first screen-filling final boss in Capcom's fighting games.

Surprise! This is a different kind of superhero story.

The “Even More NSFW” red band trailer for Deadpool:

//youtube.com/watch?v=ZIM1HydF9UA

>>44502
I like it, hitting lots of the comic beats.

>>44549
He's never not going to look like the feature of a Giorgio Tsoukalos show but the beard does go a long way towards making his face more human looking.

>>44549

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/28/more-magical-pictures-and-concept-art-of-doctor-strange

So Marvel figured, hey, while we’re showing off our shit, let’s drop the new Punisher on your asses:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/29/netflixs-daredevil-reveals-the-punisher

I remember a really awesome redesign from a while back where the mask had no visible eyes and a cage over the ears to protect them while not obstructing them and in my head I was like "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT DAREDEVIL'S COSTUME WOULD BE LIKE."

>>44566
>>44564
There is actually a really good reason why the new series costume looks worse than the movie costume, the series costume is hundreds of times easier to put on than the movies costume and far less expensive, furthermore if damaged props can whip up a section of it, pop off the damage and swap. That's why TV series have "tacticool" suits, they are waaaaay more cost effective. The Flash season 1 DVD has some great stuff on it where Grant Gustin is discussing how the first suit was EXACTLY the comics suit, took over an hour to put on, breathed like 6 feet of dirt and had to be entirely replaced every time it was damaged. Then they compartmentalized it, got it down to 10 minutes which and breathable enough he could actually run without keeling over, They took lessons they learned from Arrow and Marvel in turn took lessons for Daredevil, hence the current costume. Unsurprisingly the Daredevil movie costume was an absolute nightmare to wear.

>>44570
>had no visible eyes

That would be dumb, revealing to his enemies that he is blind.

>>44577

In the series it IS dumb, but he gets a pass because he just started doing the whole masked vilgilante thing and hasn't figured everything out. In the comics Matt counts on people not knowing he is blind, it's part of his battle tactics.

>>44576
I think its kinda hard for them to notice with he jump you in the dark.
And works with the whole Batman "what is this badass even" thing.

>>44580
I can find absolutely no evidence of that in the comics, the eyes appear to be entirely stylistic.

>>44580
Also, it's FROM the comics that his mask has no eyes.

http://www.wearewakanda.com/post/136893315817/

A closer look at the Black Panther suit from the Captain America: Civil War promo art.

>>44725
On one hand, basketball texture.

On the other, at least it's justfied bu the suit having the vibranium weave.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/25616/ryan_coogler_to_direct_marvels_black_panther

Awesome! Always thought he was a good fit for Black Panther, especially the Priest series which showed a more complex side to T'Challa.

>>44814

Deadpool lied
Relationships died

And if the trailers weren’t a clue as to what the filmmakers were aiming for, Deadpool officially has its “R” rating (for “strong violence and language throughout, sexual content and graphic nudity”).

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/01/16/punisher-spin-off-brewing-over-at-netflix

Well, there’s one big spoiler for Season Two of Daredevil.

>>44881
Marvel doesn't really kill off their main characters, not for good at least. Punisher dying was never a real possibility.

>>44886
Get knocked about by Kingpin a bit, get turned into a black man for a bit and then hang out with Luke Cage for a bit.

Wait, people thought The Punisher would die in the tv show? Why?

How does Rebels stack up to TCW qualitywise?

>>44889
It's hard to say.

Rebels can only really be measured on an episode by episode basis, but it's started to pick up.
TCW had a pretty rocky beginning too after all.

Jessica Jones got its Season Two greenlight from Netflix.

>>44893
Cool, wonder if they'll bring in another character to backdoor in that one. Jennifer Walters wouldn't be a bad choice.

>>44893
I wonder who they'll use as the villain this time around, since the Purple Man was such a major part of her storyline. We'll probably get more Jessica/Luke romance this time around.

>>44901
Plenty of street level villians to use in the Marvel Universe. Many that could actually cross and expand the world further.

>>44901
Did they adapt the "Maddie Franklin gets kidnapped and turned into a living methlab" story?

They could do that, with most of the specific details completely removed.

Or something tying in to Civil War.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/01/netflix-marvel-character-can-get-tv-shows.html

An Unbeatable Squirrel Girl animated series when?

>>44951
Howard the Duck/She-Hulk Law and Order type show. Or how about a CSI type show with young heroes at a high school. New Warriors

>>44955
A She Hulk show could work, as long as it is comedy oriented.

>>44961

Yea that could work. Hence the idea of fitting it with Howard the Duck. Be a good criminal investigation and defense prosecution setup.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/martian-actor-nabs-key-doctor-858155?utm_source=twitter
Huh, so looks like they're going to have Wong after all.

>>44972
>Benedict Wong has been cast as Wong,

So, I guess they were just holding out on a guy ACTUALLY NAMED Wong?

>>44976

As they say two Wongs make it right.

>>44978
You mean two Benedicts make it Wong.

>>45022
Or the set with Hank Pym getting back into the Ant-Man suit.

//youtube.com/watch?v=YZEP6glW4AQ

How many movies put out a testicular cancer PSA?

>>45055

From the comments:

>Seriously though, Deadpool is doing more of a public service than any other male cancer awareness programs out there. Hilarious and depressing at the same time.

Meanwhile in japan!
//youtube.com/watch?v=sLkhFfWF0gU

>>45108
I still haven't watch Future Past because Singer sent everyone back to the leather bar again...

>>45108
Thank god Oscar Isaac is in makeup for this because I don't want people to remember him for this thing.

>>45108
>>45110
Is it really that bad? Besides X3 had nothing to do with Singer. That was Brett Ratner, and even then he was hamstrung by the studio execs.

//youtube.com/watch?v=0L7iH3foZU0
At least the Captain America Civil War spot looks pretty cool.

>>45113
Yikes that's awful. Either go all out with the leather or stick with the old suits. Both of them look less cheesy than this.

>>45114
I just end up being very confused. Some of the CGI looks atrocious to laughable and the suits. X-men they didn't even try Villains they just about all stopped halfway through and then cut their costume budget since it doesn't look anywhere near as high end as it should. I mean at a distance its okay but the closer you get. It just looks cheap.

Hell out of all of them Jubilee looks the most like she should. Probably because she didn't get much attention.

I'm just really confused. I mean this had to have a higher budget than Deadpool yet it looks a lot worse.

>"We did it with a relative pittance compared to most superhero films, but it really allowed us to explore the character. When you see the movie, you would think it's a $150 million film, but actually it's not at all."

Straight from Deadpool himself. Well Ryan Reynolds but same difference by this point.


//youtube.com/watch?v=e0T8dLAyT6I
//youtube.com/watch?v=623O1V7zKz0
//youtube.com/watch?v=a2h1FRZMy7U

More Pool and a Interview
//youtube.com/watch?v=4LGs81Ip8cg

Honestly can't wait for the Directors Cut.

Speaking of Deadpool, my brother somehow got tickets to an early showing and while he can't give me details on it he fucking loved it. And reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are also similarly positive. Looks like this could be another repeat of AOU and Antman where the sillier lower-budget movie ends up being way better than the film actually intended as the big blockbuster.

I'll respectfully disagree about ant man.

>>45116
I'm glad its getting the praise its getting. Maybe it can be on the Level of Robocop The good one. The Original.

Or Guardians of the Galaxy.

Though some will not understand that the Juxtaposition of Manic and Morose is who Deadpool is. Wisecracks to cover his torment.

Making jokes in battle one moment then the next frantically digging through a mass grave hoping his kid isn't among them.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Xp76j7IDQKA
>cause tons of colateral damage over a coke mini
Haha, what assholes.
Good to see Ant-man getting play doh.