Marvel General: (Fantastic) Fifth Edition New info about Doctor Strange and Civil War at D23, X-Men 'verse is still going strong, and Fox still claims to be interested in doing a sequel to Fantastic Flop despite the critical and financial trashing it got.
>Fox still claims to be interested in doing a sequel to Fantastic Flop despite the critical and financial trashing it got
Give the studio a few months to properly defend the movie (and rush it out on home video to get whatever it can out of those sales). Once the full travesty of Fant4stic has passed, I doubt Fox will say anything about a sequel to one of the worst critical and financial superhero bombs of all-time.
So if not the Fantastic Four what will be the next thing Fox trades that Marvel will then weave into gold? I'm guessing some of the X-men Second String they've not used when they go for the TV show rights. Hooray now we've got an actual supporting cast for AoS and some more stuff to include in Netflix.
>>43717 According to some articles, Fox is trying to negotiate the right to even air an X-Men TV show, since the only rights they have from Marvel are for film. It would be the most logical deal. Dump the copyright that acts as a money sink for them in order to focus on the one they actually succeed with.
I'm sure Marvel would be happy to trade away those TV rights and a shitload of dosh for the Fantastic Four rights (which also includes Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus—the latter two of whom would be great for a Cosmic Marvel movie or a future Avengers installment).
Skrulls alone would add a whole new phase on their own with Secret Invasion. And with Sliver Surfer we can have Planet Hulk done up right and finish fleshing out and with Annihilus and Super Skrull in house its time for the Cosmic Marvel to get going full speed.
Yea as scary as it is, getting that all back would open up another fifteen years of films.
>>43733 It's almost like you don't need to make a Fantastic Four movie. Just take all the things people like from the series and put them in other movies. Make Dr. Doom the Iron Man villain he was always destined to be.
>>43741 Iron Man is an even worse superhero than Reed Richards, and what conflict would Doom have with Stark? All Stark's villains are basically just trying to steal Tony's stuff, and Doom is, at this point, so much smarter/more competent than everyone that he'd never need to steal anything.
Just spitballing off the top of my head here, but what about Black Panther? Doom probably needs shitloads of vibranium for Doombots, and that desire could result in a nation-to-nation war between Latveria and Wakanda.
Evangeline Lilly says she's been fitted for a Wasp suit, so she'll be in either a Sequel or Infinity Wars possibly. If they could swing the budget I'd love a Netflix series of Hanks old adversaries coming out of hiding to have a go at the new duo.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-fantastic-four-movie-that-could-have-been-actually-sounds-fantastic >So, how come we didn't end up with that version? Well, from what Birth.Movies.Death puts together, the version Slater planned was simply too much money. Fox wanted a cheap FF film -- considering how badly received the previous two versions were -- and wanted it done fast. So, instead, we get a similar opening act but stretched out for way too long, filled with hallways and indoor labs. You know, really cheap set pieces.
Ugh, if it's true it wouldn't surprise me. Although if Fox really was concerned about saving money then why did the final thing still cost $130 million? And surely they could've kept more of the Slater script without expense to the budget.
>>43761 $130 million is pretty normal for a SFX-heavy action movie these days. Ant-Man was the cheapest movie Marvel Studios has produced so far (yes, cheaper than the first buch of movies made 6-7 years ago), and it cost just as much.
>>43804 A war of ten people, yay. That's my problem with the MCU adapting Civil War, in the comics the event involved hundreds of superhumans, here we have a registration act to regulate a handful of individuals, many of them with no real superpowers. It's kinda ridiculous.
Also, Vision alone could beat Cap and his team in seconds.
>>43805 Having that many characters would ruin the movie to be shit though. It's only even Civil War in the first place because RDJ got greedy and they'll probably be fighting for the second act. The SHRA could stick around for future movies though.
>in the comics the event involved hundreds of superhumans
If this were a TV series instead of a movie, we could maybe—maybe—swing a couple dozen at most. A cast of hundreds is manageable in comics, where endless spinoff stories that aren't necessarily required reading can exist. In TV and movies, there needs to be a reasonably-sized core cast of main and supporting characters to weave a story around. This image imples an eleven-person “core cast” (you missed Ant-Man) for Civil War. There’s also Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, Nick Fury/Coulson/SHIELD, whoever the villain is, and any other characters from the existing MCU that might have a line or two (e.g. General Ross, Bruce Banner) to consider. Keeping track of a cast that big would be a monumental task—just look at The Walking Dead, which has to keep killing people off to make room for new characters. Unless you want a movie where hundreds of superheroes exist only to die for the sole purpose of offering a “more accurate” adaptation of the comic storyline, lower your goddamn expectations a little.
>>43810 Because it's not really about registering supers. Agents of SHIELD already has something just like that called the Index. It's about accountability and making sure they don't make a situation worse by being too reckless or whatever. I don't even know if the movie is going to call them Pro- or Anti-Registration, people are calling it that because the comics did.
What he said. Civil War isn’t about registering supers because most of their identities are already public knowledge (Tony leaked his own, Cap’s was already in the history books, and any others would’ve likely become public when SHIELD’s secrets were leaked in Winter Soldier).
They already said Civil War wasn't going to be like the comics except in the barest sense so it's still too early to judge. Depending on the way the story goes having many more characters may even defeat the point the movie is trying to make.
>Well, we made a bomb. >We've burned the bridge with Trank. He'll never work for us again. >We're definitely not gonna make back our budget, that's for sure. >“Fantastic 5%”, I believe the term is now? >The F4 name will never be taken seriously again, what with two bombs in a row. >Not like the first one did that much better, either. >And to top it all off, we can't even make that X-Men crossover anymore. >… >BUT AT LEAST WE GOT TO KEEP THE RIGHTS! >HELL YEAH, MOTHERFUCKER! >[Turn Down For What intensifies]
Hmm. I wonder if this will mean movies getting more diverse. It was Perlmutter who claimed nobody wants to see female-led movies and put his foot down against them. I don't know what effect this will have on the TV series though.
>>43841 This is a good thing. Perlmutter is an asshole, and not all but a lot of Marvel Studio's more disagreeable policies (lack of protagonist diversity, the spite towards Fox properties in the comics, refusal to pay actors and staff a decent salary, forcing them to pay for their own amenities when nobody else in Hollywood does that) largely come from him.
>>43842 >spendthrift I think you got your words mixed up there. Spendthrifts are people who spend money willy nilly, you probably mean miser. But I do look forward to seeing how the movies will look now that they can afford to splurge a little more. They've managed pretty well with the budgets they've currently been allowed.
While it's great the movies can afford to spend more sprucing up their films I'm not sure if it's wise to change their practice of choosing talented lesser known and cheaper actors for their big roles because of the extra money. If they shoot for too many A-listers they'll end up with Batfleck syndrome where the actor is TOO famous and overshadows the role. It's already kinda happening with Strangelock Cumberbatch.
>>43856 Though too many are saying it was them that made him quit instead of him dragging his feet for almost a decade and then running into the Marvel Cinematic Universe that had come about make his project woefully outdated with what had come to pass.
Was the creative committee slow? Sources point to yes, was it their fault expressively that made Wright walk, no. I'm just pointing at this because I think acknowledging the problems that arose in that relationship, I believe Wright could still have a place with a Marvel Film. Howard the Duck I think would do well by him. Though I think it would be a better Netflix series.
>As The Hollywood Reporter first reported Aug. 30, Feige and his highly successful film division now will report to Disney Studios chief Alan Horn instead of Perlmutter, the New York-based executive who oversees the Disney-owned company. Multiple sources say that Feige's years of frustration came to a head in part over the making of the third installment of the Captain America series, which recently completed filming in Georgia. Others say it was a move whose time finally had come because the film division slowly has gravitated toward Disney and now will based on the Burbank studio lot.
>Sources say the budget on Civil War ballooned accordingly, which didn't sit well with the famously frugal Perlmutter. “New York wanted to scale it down,” says one insider. Marvel and Disney declined to comment.
>“New York” in this case wasn’t just Perlmutter, 72. It was also Marvel's so-called "creative committee," a group of execs from Marvel’s various divisions including publishing as well as Alan Fine, Perlmutter’s right-hand man. The collective has been around since nearly the inception of Marvel Studios in the mid-2000s, offering critiques of creative choices as well as input on business decisions. Insiders say that with Feige breaking free of Perlmutter and the New York side of the company, the committee will not be disbanded but its influence over the Marvel movies will be nominal at best.
I think Hulk will be part of the justification, but if the leaked spoilers about Civil War are to be trusted, another part of that justification will be the Avengers fucking up their fight with Crossbones and causing another round of collateral damage. The SHRA analogue exists in this film so the world governments can regulate when and where the Avengers operate to minimize collateral damage. It’s literally a “who watches the watchmen” situation.
>>43875 Yea I really doubt that, just so happens the most lackluster films are the ones they had the least influence. I guess to the layman that doesn't read comics for long periods and doesn't know the styles of that Braintrust could be fooled by such a claim.
It's true IM2 was harmed specifically because Feige himself meddled too hard in it, so I'm wary of him having sole control. But the author is trying too hard to spin correlation into causation and rely on the (probably not entirely true) implication that the MCC's involvement is inversely proportional to Feige's, when a positive report of the degree of Feige's input on each movie would've been the more meaningful thing to report on if there was actually a pattern to be found in it. I mean, some of the people on this committee are Quesada, Millar, and Bendis. They can barely idea their way past the comics medium, let alone live-action.
Also go ahead and laugh, but I enjoyed IM3 and AOU and hated GOTG and Thor 2.
>>43881 Wait I get it! Both that brooding boars who wants to kill everyone with a magic rock as a bad guy. They even have kind of the same look. That fucking sucks when you think about it and if that goes away with Feige(whoever that is) that I may give a shit.
>>43881 I found most of the humor really unfunny and fratboyish. Star-Lord was such a manchild it became actually annoying and was only saved by being Chris Pratt. Gamora was bland and underwhelming. And yeah, Ronan was a really awful villain, though I think bad villains are Feige's fault since the Sony emails showed him pushing for focus on heroes over villains.
It wasn't all bad though. Yondu was pretty badass, the Collector was cool for the short amount of time he was on, and Rocket provided some genuine emotional drama.
Even if the Creative Committee did have more input on some of the movies considered "good", that's not to say the advice was of any value, or that it was even taken. Their plans for how the first Captain America movie should go were awful, and it was Feige who pushed for Rocket Raccoon.
>>44005 While I do agree with almost all points in the honest trailer, there is also this
>the heroes fight a lot of faceless generic bag guys
See, this is a very common complain about the movie, and I just don't get it. Superheroes punch a LOT of generic goons, it comes with the material.
Let's take the Nolanbats trilogy (not really trying to stir the Marvel Vs DC fires, just taking what's considered the cream of the crop of the superhero genere), in Begins the cannon fodder that Batman punched for most of the nmovie were generic mafia thugs and generic Ninjas. TDK had the Joker's goons, which were generic and unremarkable (at least Burton's Joker had good ole' Bob!). TDKR had a ton of League of Shadows mercs, and besides Bane can you name any of them, or remember any that was particulary interesting?
In Man of Steel, besides Zod and Faora, the only other Krptonian baddie who isn't just background noise is Nam-Ek, and the guy literally was faceless. Ironman had the generic Ten Rings cannon fodder. Captain America had the generic Hydra cannon fodder. In X-Men DOTFP, I don't recall Nimrond Sentinel #1 having a nuance that distinguished him from Nimrond Sentinel #2 and #3.
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate when a movie does give some color and personality to the henchmen (yes, Fury Road is a great example of this), but complaining about something as normal, standard and commonplace as "the heroes punch lot of faceless cannon fodder" is a bit silly to me.
There is no such a character as "Nam-Ek" in Man of Steel.
No, seriously, there isn't. I know everybody reffers as Nam-Ek to the big guy who assists Faora in the fight with Supers, but check the film's credits. No character goes by that name.
The guy who often gets credited as playing Nam-Ek is Revard Dufresne, but in the actual movie he plays a Kryptonian named Dev-Em.
Perhaps the Dev-Em guy is not actually the same guy fighting alongside Faora (Dev-Em noticeably wears a different armor), and people mistakenly assumed so because the actor is pretty tall. Perhaps that character is indeed Nam-Ek and it doesn't have credits because in the fight he is a CGI construct, I don't know.
>>44009 In the Marvel movie case it's because an indeterminate number of faceless goons isn't a very exciting climax, and both armies have the indeterminate number of faceless goons as the main theat. Man of Steel has faceless henchmen, but the big exciting battle at the end of the film is Zod. Batman films end with complicated schemes and the main villain personally matched up against him. But in Avengers, both films end with the big threat being... a bunch of easily dispatched mooks who are only considered dangerous because there's a lot of them.
It’s why the climax to Winter Soldier was so good: while Cap and his compatriots had to deal with the larger threat of Hydra's overall plan and take down loads of faceless goons, each of the major showdowns from the climax were personal affairs (Cap and Bucky, Black Widow/Fury and Pierce, Falcon and Pierce's right-hand man). Compare that to the climax of Age of Ultron, where all of the Avengers were almost exclusively fighting Ultron’s army, the final defeat of Ultron came down to a “post-battle” scene with Vision, and nothing about the “final fight” felt as personal as the Winter Soldier climax.
Even Guardians of the Galaxy suffered from the “impersonal climax” issue by having most of the final fight come down to Ronan and his army vs. the Guardians, the Ravagers, and the Nova Corps. Yeah, you do get to see some personal moments in that huge clash, but the Nova Corps’ sacrifice feels pointless because they’re essentially an army of “good guy goons” that you’re given no real reason to care about, and Ronan’s threat never felt specifically personal to any of the Guardians. Again, compare that to Winter Soldier, where Cap thought of Hydra’s plans as an attack on both America and the ideals for which the country stands—ideals for which he fights. Even Man of Steel took a similar approach by turning two of the climactic action scenes into personal clashes between Superman and Zod/his henchmen despite the larger threat of Zod’s plan.
So Taika Waititi is all but confirmed for Thor 3. His forte is in comedy and the very premise of Thor Ragnarok seems like it's going to be a really serious movie so I'm not sure if it's the best match, but then again it worked magic for The Winter Soldier, and they did say this one is going to be Phase 3's equivalent of that.
Wish Wasp had her name put at the forefront of her movie title, but I actually don't really mind Captain Marvel getting delayed. It's disappointing that they're so slow to make a female-led movie, but KSD's Captain Marvel reboot is... really damn mediocre. Like, it's not terrible, but it's really boring, and the Carol Corps is kinda Sueish. She doesn't have enough strong material to make me excited for her in the way that I am for Black Panther. Black Widow might've only been good in one out of the four movies she showed up in but even she's got a stronger foundation.
Also the movie was 4ish years away, cancelling is the same as delaying in that time frame. If this was news about Dr. Strange getting cancelled (not just from a rumor at that) then I might need to check my jimmies for rustling.
>>44060 >Rich Johnston >"In the New York bars last night I heard from other well connected sources"
This is the same guy who was spewing all sorts of conspiracy theories about Feige vs. Perlmutter even though multiple sources over the last few years explicitly contradict the things he said. I'd take everything he says with a minefull of salt.
>>44068 http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/marvel-is-indeed-still-releasing-inhumans-to-theaters-in-2019 It looks like Marvel already cordoned stuff off from AOS so they could save it for the movies, which is unsurprising. Also this article essentially confirms the movie will be focused on the royals.
Hmm, so far official sources are denying that FF rights are back at Marvel, but it's possible they have another Sony Spider-Man situation on their hands and are waiting for the movie to leave theaters/hassle out some final bits on the contract. I can't think of what else Fox might give back in return for these rights.
Good for Hulk, too. Until Marvel can suss out an idea for a Hulk movie that isn't Planet Hulk or another retread of the same material that Incredible Hulk and the two Avengers films covered, making Big Green part of the supporting cast is the best way of using him.
>"He does not wear the mask," he said, referring to the purple cloak the character is famous for wearing after a vat of powerful adhesive, known as Adhesive X, spilled all over him during a fight with Captain America, preventing Zemo from ever removing it.
>"You would be surprised, it's different than what you'd think," said Brühl, talking about the Zemo character we see in "Civil War." "It's loosely connected to this character. But that's what I like about the Marvel guys, some of the characters and things they're dealing with always reference to current events so my character is from a different area than you would think."
>REESE: And we had some angels on our shoulder too, this movie had some very quiet unsung heroes. One of them was Jim Cameron, who’s a friend of Tim Miller, and read the script at a key moment a few years back. He said he would read it and we were like, [Sarcastically] “Oh yeah, he will read it.” And literally he read it that night and got back to us the next morning.
>WERNICK: He was procrastinating I think on Avatar 2.
>REESE: But he read it and he went to Jim Gianopulos and he got it on the radar in a really big way. David Fincher was another guy who was a big help for us, he’s also a friend of Tim’s, and he loved the script and he pushed forward with the executives at certain key moments. Having guys like Fincher and Cameron pushing certainly didn’t hurt and we very well might not be sitting here if it hadn’t been for those two guys.
>>44220 I believe recent rumors point to Punisher getting its own Netflix series, while Marvel will produce an Iron Fist movie for Netflix. With the cause being Marvel is unsure how to adapt Iron Fist and everyone being incredibly pleased with Jon Bernthal as Punisher.
>>44222 I've seen that rumor, and it comes from a [i]really[i] dubious source so I wish people would stop parroting it without further verification. It's possible that it may be true, but we can't say at this point.
>>44239 A lot of people are, and she was this close to being cast in the MCU twice, but apparently nobody's approached her for Captain Marvel yet. Maybe she's a little too "grim" looking for Carol but she's definitely got the chops acting wise.
>>44240 She's typecast as the "badass action lady" a lot (which I think Sicario brilliantly subverts since she's the one trying the pull the brakes on a pack of 'roided assholes acting like "badass action dudes"), but I'm not sure she's the right fit for Carol. Danvers is more of a go-getting reach-for-the-stars character, there's a strain of optimism to her badassery. Although Blunt should be able to capture Carol's often-conflicted willingness to leave friends and loved-ones behind to explore the cosmos.
The only bullshit was the "pepole refues to belive in supernatural" thing. Mindcontroll have been around since the 40's in this universe, for fucks same! Just call Shield and ask.(why they arnt on top of this)
They deserve to get stepped on by the next big bad with an attitude like that. Like walk into a busy freeway with your eyes closed. Fucking stupid. >>44255 I like it better but then I am not much for street level.(Only when its like TMNT where ANYTHING can happen, muggers, ninjas, aliens, timewizards, its all good.) Thats way Iron Fist is the one I want to watch the most.
Eh, liked it, but it definitely wasn't as good as Daredevil. Pacing was all over the place, and while Killgrave was great, Fisk was much better used and developed in his show. Plus, the action scenes were meh, it's kinda annoying how the show conveniently forgets that Jessica has superstrength whenever it fits the plot.
>>44282 1- People back out of contracts all the time. 2- If you think Joe Queseda isn't going to lie to you, you probably don't actually read comics, because man his BS levels are barely sub-Didio. 3- The Defenders ran like 156 issues in it's original series, back when people actually read comic books. Even as a low selling C-tier book, it probably sold better than anything Jessica Jones has ever been in before this TV show.
I really dig that this version of Civil War gives them a bit more personal reason for their positions and keeping it small I think is a boon compared to the comic. Much better than a bunch of Jackass D-Listers blowing up a school.
>>44287 So far it works a bit better, Tony decides that after some soul searching that they need to some oversight. But given what Cap has gone through in fighting HYDRA within SHIELD he doesn't trust anyone taking the role along with their manhunt of Bucky.
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/captain-america-civil-war-trailer-breakdown/ >“When people leave the theatre, they’re going to be arguing about who was right in the movie, whether it was Tony, or whether it was Cap,” says Joe Russo. “Tony has a very legitimate argument in the movie that’s a very adult point of view, about culpability, about the Avengers’ responsibility to the world, and the world’s right to have some sort of control over the Avengers. It’s a very complicated emotional arc for Tony Stark in this movie. Downey is utterly amazing in the part. I think he’s taking this character he’s been crafting for years and goes to some very risky places in the movie with the character.” >no Tony the retarded Fuhrer
>>44291 There are a lot of ways that MCU Iron Man is a lot better as a character than 616 Iron Man.
MCU Iron Man will probably not ever need to be rebooted AS A PERSON multiple times. Between Armor Wars, The Crossing, Civil War, and the Illuminati, (not to mention Superior Iron Man), Tony is basically a villain that sometimes saves the world.
>>44295 Because it has Tony taking over the world. Thats whats we are talking about right?
Also I hope when they first show of spidy it in the IronSpider suit, because I like that suit even if the toys can get the shine right. And then we can get the awesome promo poster with Spidy in the middle doing the two-face thing with both suits with Cap and Tony on the sides with a red and blue background. Being stuck in the middle was Spidy's thing in civil war after all.
So I recently got a subscription to Marvel Unmilinted and I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations for me. I've always been more of a DC guy so I haven't read much Marvel stuff.
So far I've read: Cable & Deadpool G.L.A. Spider-Man Noir Spider-Man Noir Eyes Without a Face Moon-Knight (not sure what volume, but it was Bendis's run) I've also read the first few issues of the current Ms. Marvel
So far I've enjoyed all of it. I'm open to just about any character or continuity so whatever you guys think is good feel free to recommend. My only preference is that the story (or story arc) is completed and that it isn't some big crossover event (I'd like to get to know the characters a bit more individually first).
I know there's tons of rec lists and stuff out there, I'm just wondering if anyone here has any specific suggestions. Whatever you think is good or 'mandatory reading.'
People are frothing on the mout at Apocalypse but I honestly think he looks fine. OTOH, his voice sounds too normal, like it was just some guy. Should be very easy to fix in post-production, put some filters there dammit!
>>44373 He was also pretty cool and menacing in X-Men Evo, and in the X-Men Legends 2 game the guy got shit done HARD. I mean, he nuked NY midway through the game. And he gets kudos for being the first screen-filling final boss in Capcom's fighting games.
I remember a really awesome redesign from a while back where the mask had no visible eyes and a cage over the ears to protect them while not obstructing them and in my head I was like "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT DAREDEVIL'S COSTUME WOULD BE LIKE."
>>44566 >>44564 There is actually a really good reason why the new series costume looks worse than the movie costume, the series costume is hundreds of times easier to put on than the movies costume and far less expensive, furthermore if damaged props can whip up a section of it, pop off the damage and swap. That's why TV series have "tacticool" suits, they are waaaaay more cost effective. The Flash season 1 DVD has some great stuff on it where Grant Gustin is discussing how the first suit was EXACTLY the comics suit, took over an hour to put on, breathed like 6 feet of dirt and had to be entirely replaced every time it was damaged. Then they compartmentalized it, got it down to 10 minutes which and breathable enough he could actually run without keeling over, They took lessons they learned from Arrow and Marvel in turn took lessons for Daredevil, hence the current costume. Unsurprisingly the Daredevil movie costume was an absolute nightmare to wear.
In the series it IS dumb, but he gets a pass because he just started doing the whole masked vilgilante thing and hasn't figured everything out. In the comics Matt counts on people not knowing he is blind, it's part of his battle tactics.
http://comicbook.com/2015/12/17/captain-america-civil-war-lego-sets-may-reveal-giant-spoiler/ Ha... Saw that today when I picked up the new lego catalogue. Looks awesome but FUCK me! But dont forget about:
>>45023 Was that not just included so we could have a classic ant-man lego man? Most sets in the price range has 3 minis as well, thats why the green lanturn set comes with space batman I guess.(also because batman I guess) Still on my buy it when its on sale list.
>>45111 Beast "fur" looks cheap and even with the promise of "they'll have more color" I doubt it's going to be for any length of time. Also no Jubilee in the promo sign. That's just some gal who decided to fill the hole.
>>45114 I just end up being very confused. Some of the CGI looks atrocious to laughable and the suits. X-men they didn't even try Villains they just about all stopped halfway through and then cut their costume budget since it doesn't look anywhere near as high end as it should. I mean at a distance its okay but the closer you get. It just looks cheap.
Hell out of all of them Jubilee looks the most like she should. Probably because she didn't get much attention.
I'm just really confused. I mean this had to have a higher budget than Deadpool yet it looks a lot worse.
>"We did it with a relative pittance compared to most superhero films, but it really allowed us to explore the character. When you see the movie, you would think it's a $150 million film, but actually it's not at all."
Straight from Deadpool himself. Well Ryan Reynolds but same difference by this point.
Speaking of Deadpool, my brother somehow got tickets to an early showing and while he can't give me details on it he fucking loved it. And reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are also similarly positive. Looks like this could be another repeat of AOU and Antman where the sillier lower-budget movie ends up being way better than the film actually intended as the big blockbuster.
>While the assumption is that rival distribution executives always like to snark on the competition, this morning they were in complete awe at Fox’s success. One marketing executive applauded Fox’s unconventional marketing campaign and its ability to pull a good portion of women to Deadpool. Another suit got to the heart of the matter as to why Deadpool is truly resonating: “The film has a self-deprecating tone that’s riotous. It’s never been done before. It’s poking fun at Marvel. That label takes itself so seriously, can you imagine them making fun of themselves in a movie? They’d rather stab themselves.” (X-Men and Deadpool film rights were sold to Fox years ago; thus falling outside the Disney Marvel empire).
>In sum, the anti-superhero movie, complete with nudity and bawdy jokes, drew an A CinemaScore and a 97% excellent/very good PostTrak score. The latter polling org also stated that 52% of all moviegoers felt that Deadpool met their expectations while another 45% said it exceeded them. Amazing.
Stephen Lang (AKA Col. Quaritch from Avatar) wants to be Cable.
Lookwise he is a match, but I am not too sure about his odds to be cast. I mean, the man is already 63, and that may scare off Fox that he wiill be too old for future sequels. Plus Cable is supposed to be a full head taller than Deadpool, and yet Reynolds would tower over Lang. Yes, there is movie magic to fix that, but they would need it any time the two characters are onscreen together.
Also, holy shit Rob Liefeld's tweeter. The man's ego has grown a size or two in the past few days.
>>45180 Watched it with the GF, and we both loathed the movie, terrible and pointless all around. It honestly felt like a cheap parody spoof made by Friedberg and Seltzer instead of a proper sequel to Zoolander.
>>45189 I did expect it to do pretty decently but I'm surprised and also glad it's as much of a smash hit as it turned out to be. Let's hope Fox doesn't stick too much of its meddling fingers into the sequel, although now that Tom Rothman's gone that won't be as much of a problem.
>>45235 Yeah, that was pretty much my only real gripe with it too. His face wasn't near as grotesque as it should be. But to be fair, maybe it'll get more grotesque when he regrows it after it gets shot or something.
Another nitpick was the chimichangas reference was completely random and without context. Even all my college nerd friends only laughed awkwardly at that.
Other than that I was pleasantly surprised by how balanced it was and it stayed true to Deadpool's character. Like, ACTUALLY true. I genuinely expected him to start referencing outdated memes, but it never happened.
>>45240 1.) That’s fake as all fuck. 2.) Some rumors have said the Civil War crew are actually filming several different death/funeral scenes to throw off potential spoiler reports and such. I don’t know if there’s any truth to those rumors, but I could believe it. 3.) Even if that pic is fake as fuck, I expect Steve to bite the big one here and somehow return for Infinity War Part II.
In more certain news apparently Martin Freeman's playing Everett Ross. So I expect to see him in the upcoming Black Panther movie too, and it seems like basically a confirmation they're going to do one of the Priest storylines rather than McGregor's or Hudlin's.
Ugh really? I know a lot of MCU actors get shit thrown their way about being miscast before they get a chance to prove themselves, but it's usually less about whether they're good at their job or not and more about whether they're the right fit for the role. This guy though? He just can't act.
The Netflix shows are an entirely different matter, yeah. (And a Punisher series would practically be R/TV-MA by default.) But the MCU movies are where Disney stands to make the most dosh, so going four-quadrant PG-13 with those is the best possible bet.
>>45405 Also she apparently didn't watch Winter Soldier which is almost criminal. I'm surprised so many people continue to think Steve is a Lawful Stupid type after that movie came out. Must have seen him in the Avengers films only.