/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

So another case of Twilight Princess, eh.

>>199861
It's worse in one way. The gamecube had Windwaker (yes I know, Wii U HD re-release) and the Wii had Skyward Sword as 'exclusives' to their respective consoles. This would mean the WiiU has no traditional Zelda on it as an exclusive and would lead other zelda fans to be upset at the lack of a return of their 'investment' into the Wii U. I have a friend who refers to their Wii U as "that Splatoon and Sm4sh playing device". But, yes, another Twilight Princess.

>>199863

could be on the back.

>>199866
Oh wow. When they say compatible amiibo, they mean it. And I was actually planning on picking up Skylander Donkey Kong to unlock his stages.

>>199866
Aw man that sucks...

They really gotta make an Amiibo game. Something like Infinity but Nintendo flavoured.

I, personally, was thinking they could make a 3D Mario Maker as a sequel to the 2D version. With a level creator a la Minecraft, and a limited little space to get creative, and you could make it for different characters who each have unique abilities!
Dumb idea for sure, but if other Toys to Life games do that sort of thing, I don't see why Nintendo couldn't jump on it.

>>199875

That would mean that Nintendo actually putting out a featured piece of tech and actually putting development into properties around it instead of their usual token handful.

Upsets me that its never happened and likely never will.

Well, 3DS will endure it seems, surprisingly. When they announced the New 3DS I figured it was the DSi all over again.

I’d be happy with a Zelda game that actually tried something different instead of being the same goddamn “Zelda formula” game again.

>>199877
That was actually a sensible revision to fix the problems with the inital model. The infrared camera does a lot so the 3D actually isn't shit.

//youtube.com/watch?v=uieM18rZdHY

>>199883
And it's stronger!
You don't appreciate how powerful the New is until you see just how unplayable Hyrule Warriors Legends is on the classic.

>>199886

Yea its a pretty good hardware revision. Faster Processors and such. C-Stick isn't the best but its a step in the right direction.

Personally I'd designed a smaller directional stick and put it in the top right corner instead of in the inner side. Also nub design isn't too hot and a bitch to break in. Anyone know decent mods to improve its tactile grip and by that its response.

>>199888
If /v/ is to be believed, those figurines are for sexual.

>>199880
>I’d be happy with a Zelda game that actually tried something different instead of being the same goddamn “Zelda formula” game again.

What is the "Zelda Formula"? Like, what are you interested in them getting rid of? Because all I can think of being the same is the fact that you have 7 to 8 dungeons you go through... and most of the dungeons have been wildly different. I mean sure you have your forest/fire/water dungeons, but each time they introduce new mechanics, new weapons, new boss fights, etc.

New Zelda is supposed to be an open world game so there's that.

I'll be fine just so long as we don't get another trash fire like Skyward Sword.

Wii U having to suffer through another terrible holiday is painful for owner, but Nintendo is making the right decision here. Whatever the NX is, it needs to have games at launch. Nintendo can't repeat the same mistake of releasing a console too early like it did with the Wii U.

Based on statements from the recent investor meeting, NX and mobile (not handhelds; smartphones) will be a big focus for Nintendo. Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem as mobile games makes extreme sense; interested in seeing that turn out.

Zelda NX rumors like Linkle being playable has me exited too.

>>199890

//youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0

The formulaic feeling of Zelda games past ALttP is discussed as part of this video. But to sort-of summarize the idea into a question or two: Just how new are those mechanics and weapons and boss fights in each successive “proper” Zelda game? Are they new because they actually haven’t been done before in a Zelda game, or are they new because they haven’t been done with whatever gimmicky control scheme Nintendo’s come up with?

Oh I don't... I don't watch Arin's opinions on video games.

Nevermind.

>>199893
I thought Link Between Worlds did a good job of balancing old and new elements, so I'm pretty hopeful for NX.

I didn't play the new 3-swords adventure or whatever it is though.

>>199897
Nintendo loves its new mechanics. Doubled it up with that 3DS release with costumes that give powers along with the Doll Co-op system.

It was Different much like the other DS Link games.

Played through Star Fox Zero with a friend today. Everything you've heard about the control scheme is true. In corridor mode it's alright, it gets janky in all-range mode, and once a boss shows up and the camera fixes on it it becomes a nightmare. We're not sure it's a bad control scheme as such, but it's definitely a weird and unintuitive one that we never quite got used to.

Despite that, we still enjoyed a lot of the game, and it wasn't all the nostalgia rush. There's a lot of cool stuff in there. But that control scheme, man.

>>199899
It really makes you think, like. Nintendo really wanted to make games designed around the Controller. Like, how else would you design a Star Fox with the gamepad in mind? Just have it as a map/status screen, and aim with the second stick?

...Now that I think about it, that would probably work.
But honestly, that's how I pictured a Star Fox title would be on the Wii U ever since I realized it was a new console and not a peripheral.

Was it an OK concept with bad execution? Or was it just unsalvageable?

>>199900

I'm honestly not sure. I'm not even sure it's not a good control scheme that just happens to require huge amounts of player adjustment to work with, a la God Hand.

>>199901
That's what I've heard. Any stream that ends with anyone annoyed with it, usually has them playing for little over 10 minutes with it, a la Giant Bomb:
//youtube.com/watch?v=_XhXb-7rdTc

I love these guys but it feels like they just threw it out after just a moment. On the other hand, the Completionist says after a full playthrough he could handle it with ease and in second nature. Except for the Lock On moments with Bosses, but that seems to be a common complaint with everyone.

>>199902

I played it enough to complete the game with two people passing the controller back and forth with each successive mission and...I don't know. It still never really felt natural, although it did feel less horrible after a while.

Bosses could always go fuck themselves, though. That was awful.

>>199903
Well thats a big shame. I've been a big Star Fox fan since childhood and the fandom was always ready to declare the series dead because every release since 64 has had good elements but overall is brought down by a nigh-fatal element...

I could use some more vanilla Star Foxing, nintendo. No need to re invent the wheel every time.
Same with F-Zero, you don't need to put something new in there, just give us an HD version of GX and we're happy.

>>199904

Yeah, it's pretty sad that almost ten years later, Star Fox 64 is still pretty unambiguously the strongest game in the series, and I say that as someone who is way kinder to Zero and Command than most people. Every time they try to add shit to it to move it away from the Star Fox 64 formula, the game winds up worse for it. All anybody really wants is Star Fox 64 again, but with new levels.

>>199905

Not ten years, nearly twenty. Fuck me that's even worse.

I'd be happy with Nintendo not using nearly the same goddamn story for every StarFox game. Give us a new enemy to deal with besides Andross! Expand the StarFox universe beyond the usual collection of planets! Do something fucking different instead of going the Mega Man route and giving us the same game with slightly different story/gameplay details!

StarFox could be a huge franchise if Nintendo would stop trying to “perfect” what it already got down pat—story- and gameplay-wise—with StarFox 64.

>>199907
Assault was SO close. It had such strong arwing missions. I didn't even mind Krystal and the story was how good the arwing missions were. But the land bits were so painful. Especially nowadays after having so many 3rd person shooters.

Command could've been good too.

I'd be open to a Monster Hunter system where its basically taking odd jobs and quests with maybe an overarching storyline. Just. Don't touch the gameplay.

>>199908
basically Privateer. Bounty Board take the missions take down pirates and such and scavenge for loot.

>>199910
The best way is to just go Mario with it.
Barebones save the day from the villain with cliche dialogue for flavor.
Some things story just ruins.

>>199912

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd ALL have a Merry Christmas.

I don't have any objection to Star Fox Zero rehashing the same narrative as the older titles; as others have pointed out, attempts to get away from it haven't gone well for the series. I do have a problem with how the game was literally the same story as Star Fox 64, except worse. Everything about that introduction and cutscenes was worse than the text crawl at the beginning of Star Fox 64.

>>199915
But don't you feel more emotionally invested when it's Fox himself talking about how his dad died instead of a narrator?

>>199916

No. The Zero text crawl was awful. It was easily twice as long as the 64 one without telling the player even a single additional piece of relevant information. It was just painfully drawn out and slow. Any possible advantage to having it be read by Fox himself is shredded by the voice actor's flat performance; he's totally serviceable for the short quips that typifies most of his line reads, but for a sustained exposition dump he's just not up to the task.

The worst part was the part when he started giving us a rundown of characters' personalities. Who thought we needed that? Before the first mission's halfway over you'll know exactly what each character's deal is. Talk about not trusting the player with the narrative.

All I know is seeing the Arwings turn into robot chickens is super goddamn lame.

The Arwing is like one of the coolest space ships from a nintendo game, and the Landmaster was really cool too (the submarine was acceptable, its not like it really got all that play).
But having an Arwing transform into a dumb looking robot chicken for ground combat is bad enough while also making the iconic original design lamer by association.

(Also found out it was originally conceived in the unreleased 'Star Fox 2' which was a surprise)

>>199918
I love those stupid chicken walkers, but I never really thought of Star Fox as a traditionally 'cool' series.

>>199919
What's not cool about dogfighting in sleek space fighters? Barrel rolls and looping to turn the tables on the guy trailing you before blasting him to moon dust.

Is it weird that I want a Lylat Fox Wars that is a sandbox Strategy RPG where you go around taking mercenary contracts to get funds to build up your tech, ships and generally pimp your rides. And none of the characters past 64 are in it.

To be fair the inspiration for this is because its not been completely unheard of for the series to dabble in very light strategy elements.

>>199925
Eh, I wouldn't want it myself. I'd like for the series to actually stick to being an on-rails game.

I wouldn't mind the idea of building up your arwing over the course of each playthrough though, using kills or points or whatever as currency. A sort of RPG element like that could be pretty interesting.

So I replayed Assault today as a little refresher.
And honestly, I didn't hate the on-foot missions as much as I remembered. I think there's definitely a right way to do it. Maybe actually focus on shooting and mobilty since Assault didn't handle either very well as opposed to level design. But... I feel like its doable.

Also, I dunno about a Strategy RPG, but maybe definitely a style that could still fit in with their "Space Mercs" image.

>>199932

>Nintendo
>not being behind the curve technologically

Pick one.

>>199933

Gamecube was more powerful hardware than the PS2 and Dreamcast, (Xbox is still an argument to this day depending on what you wanted done). N64 was more powerful hardware than the PSOne and Saturn. SNES was more powerful than the Genesis. If we go way back to the NES, the Master System was technically more powerful but didn't allow for sprite flipping?

Keep on memeing though, Stone.

>>199935
>just look at the PS3
The ps3 outsold the 360 in the long run fyi

>>199935
>Excuse me? Didn't the N64 use fucking cartridges in the age of CDs?

oh yeah man they got all those sweet looking FMVs that took forever to load and really held up to the test of time. Look, the PSOne was hilariously outmatched by the N64.

PS1: 33.8 Mhz 32-bit CPU
N64: 93.7 Mhz 64-bit CPU

Mini-discs were for faster load times (compare 12 seconds to 3 seconds).

Don't even get started on the PS3, that janky piece of shit could barely run multiplats as well as the 360 due to its ass-backwards cell architecture that didn't actually improve gameplay, it was just a new piece of tech that Sony wanted to cram into every electronic whether the logic structure made sense for the device or not.

>>199938

>oh yeah man they got all those sweet looking FMVs that took forever to load and really held up to the test of time.

They held up better than 90% of everything ever released on the N64.

//youtube.com/watch?v=jOtjUG5PXlE
Anyways, these are probably the new and extended songs the Squid Sister amiibo let you listen to.

>>199939
FMVs were a pointless gimmick that people liked because they were pretty, even though the games themselves looked worse than their Super Nintendo equivalents most of the time. Seriously, Final Fantasy IV through VI looked better than FFVII for 99% of the game. And yes, N64 games did almost always look better than Playstation 1 games if you ignore the FMVs.

If you want to watch pre-rendered movies on a disc, buy a goddamned DVD rather than ruining beautiful sprite based graphics with shitty 3D and breaking immersion on video games with movies of characters that look nothing like the characters that you use in the actual game.

>>199940
Ah Japan and their Digital Idols. Bet that's going to take to VR nicely.

>>199941
If people liked them then they weren't pointless.

>breaking immersion on video games with movies of characters that look nothing like the characters that you use in the actual game.

This did bother me while playing FF7. I grew to like the chibi look way more than the detailed one.

>>199943
>If people liked them then they weren't pointless.
If people liked FMVs, those people had bad opinions.

>>199946

By all means, tell us why someone liking FMVs is an objectively horrible thing that makes said someone a horrible person.

…what’s that? Someone’s enjoyment of FMVs—a subjective experience from person to person—doesn’t actually make that someone a horrible person? Someone liking FMVs doesn’t personally affect you? Oh, well, who the fuck cares, then.

I always felt discs where more fragile than cartridges.
Easier damaged discs means more profits gained from replacing those games.

>>199947
>Someone liking FMVs doesn’t personally affect you?

Actually, it does--people responding to lazy game makers throwing mini-movies with long periods of zero interactivity into video games by creaming themselves over the fact that "OH MY GOD! I JUST SAW A MOVIE! ON MY TELEVISION SET!" make game makers cater to them with increasingly elaborate (and interminable) set pieces.

People like you are the reason Xenosaga had times when you would go two hours without being able to actually play the goddamned game you bought because they're showing an unending cutscene. Because FMV apologists don't just let them get away with being awful at telling a story using the tools of the medium they're actually working in (as opposed to just inserting clips from another medium entirely), they encourage them in it.

>>199949

…and that matters because who is forcing you to play such games, again?

>>199948

Interesting that you should mention the disc/cartridge thing, as rumors are floating about that Nintendo will return to cartridges—think 3DS, but bigger—with the NX.

>>199953
Maybe not even that much bigger given the increase in memory chip sizes. I'd love a return to carts. Only one I've lost over the years was due to a TV falling on it. Also I want the NX to be a gray bastard. Drop this shiny black and white nonsense.

>>199954
But then how will it integrate seamlessly with your home theater?

>>199954

>I'd love a return to carts.

If anything, it'll help cut down on load times like a motherfucker.

//youtube.com/watch?v=wA2-0nTxaGg
starfox zero released a little while back. it's ok.

>>199956
>physical media would help load times
Um, no?

>>199959
Read speed would be a deal faster so some aspects would be quicker.

>>199960
Isn't that the entire comcept of downloading a game to your hard drive, or was that just about not wearing out the lens as quickly.

>>199961
>Isn't that the entire comcept of downloading a game to your hard drive
Yes, and even better, SSDs. Lack of shitty carts is not what causes load times, the consoles being underpowered is.

>>199959

Tell me, how fast are the load times on a 3DS?

>>199962
An SSD and a cart are effectively the same technology though.

>>199963
Lol, subpsp portables

>>199966

Least if its a Nintendo cart its got a reason for existing and they won't make priority memory cards that only run on garbage restricted by bad programming.

>>199974
The point isn't console wars, it's that using the 3DS, a thing with less graphical prowess than the fucking PSP, as an argument regarding technology is ludicrous. Portables in general aren't a valid ground to argue from.

>>199975

>Portables in general aren't a valid ground to argue from.

They are if the technology of 3DS cartridges is going to be a basis—if not the basis—for the rumored NX cartridge technology. Don’t go working yourself up into a frothing rage over the 3DS beating the PSP, okay? Shit happens.

>>199977
>Don’t go working yourself up into a frothing rage over the 3DS beating the PSP, okay? Shit happens.
This has nothing to do with that (they're different gens in the first place so what are you talking about) and I own both anyway. My point is that's the level of backwards tech you are arguing for, a 240p screen and physical media.

>>199978
Some just some don't see a cart based system as a limitation and more just something nowadays that could be unique to Nintendo.

>>199978

>a 240p screen and physical media

It works for the 3DS. …okay but seriously, do you think Nintendo is just gonna make, what, 2GB carts for the NX? The whole point of bringing up 3DS cartridge tech is to give you an idea of how the rumored NXT carts might work—not to say Nintendo would merely "scale up" 3DS carts for the NX and have it use the same specs as the 3DS.

I think I'd rather have flash based based memory alongside the game itself, simply to avoid taking up so much space on the console's hard drive with large numbers of games. Though if they do go with a new optical format, I'd like the disk to have a case rather than leaving the read surface exposed.

Well shoot, my Wii U is back and working fine, but that's because they clearly just gave me a new one and it only has my Nintendo ID transferred over and none of my saves.
My hard drive doesn't even recognize so I have to wipe it and download everything again.

So the new Pokémon starters have been revealed.

Rowlet appears to be the most popular of the trio.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Kn25hijDL7c

The reveal video for the Sun/Moon starters.

Holy shit that water starter is garbage.

>>200012

He’s the least popular of the three, yeah.

Owl is very good.
Cat is fine too.
Seal is shit.

Honestly though I'm ready for a game that doesn't use water/fire/grass for the starter trio. Do electric/water/ground or fighting/psychic/dark or something.

But then I'll probably pass on this game anyway so whatever.

Oh please let the seals evolution be into some kinda horrifying clown thing.

>>200022
My favorite of the starters so far. It looks like a little Barn Owl with a bowtie and I love it. It could also be based on a Pueo, a Hawaiian subspecies of the short-eared owl. It looks more like the non-native Barn Owl though.

>>200022
Yeah while I haven't hated previous starter ens as much as other people do this is the first time since Totodile that I flat-out loved a design this much.

Trying to restore all my downloads to my Wii U makes me realize how it's really only designed to download one thing at a time.
Getting a queue going causes it to slow down to the point of crashing a few times.

//youtube.com/watch?v=onScwrHP2g0

>>200041
KYLE!
I didn't know he kept up the videos! I'm so glad he's still doing stuff.

http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-exploring-movies-wants-first-one-ready-within-next-2-3-years/

Who's ready for a Nintendo Cinematic Universe?
Ron Perlman as Ganondorf please. Some Anon in another thread suggested this.

>>200080

And the big crossover movie will be Smash Bros.

>>200080
With Ron Jeremy as Mario.

>>200083
Danny Devito as Dedede

Now who'd be Kirby.

All sounding like some kinda porn

>>200094
Pink Body Suit or just paint him?

>>200095
I imagine a pink spandex suit with a pink painted face would do nicely.

That way you can see every delicate feature of his face while his cgi jaw unhinges like a snake for him to inhale people.

>>200116

New powers he just gets new hats and does different wrestling moves.

It couldn't even get an E rating, what the fuck is the point of this again?

http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2016/06/esrb-rates-metroid-prime-federation-force/

>>200235
At this point I honestly just find this amusing.

>>200235
Instead of somehow still crying about this why not play any one of the billion riffs on Metroid out there, like Axiom Verge

>>200238
What if we have? What if we just want another Metroid game?

>>200239
You'll probably get one eventually, it's not like it's a Konami franchise.

>>200238
I'm not crying about it and I am playing those games, what I'm doing is critiquing a TERRIBLE business decision on Nintendo's part.

Let me put it this way, you want to market your most well known FPS shooter series as a multi-player shooter kids shooter, probably spurred on by the success of Splatoon, I get that.

It's FUCKING TERRIBLE IDEA, but I get it.

So you chibify the characters and give the game Nintendo 64 graphics, you are obviously shooting at an E rating because the very concept of what you are doing is disgusting to anyone that actually likes the series....only to get a T rating.

Could this game be anymore doomed? With an E rating it might have been a cool shooter for kids like Splatoon but they managed to fuck even that up.

But by all means defense squaddy, you make it about me hating the game and not me seeing this as an extremely flawed decision.

>>200241
>>200241
>So you chibify the characters and give the game Nintendo 64 graphics, you are obviously shooting at an E rating because the very concept of what you are doing is disgusting to anyone that actually likes the series....only to get a T rating.

Thanks for speaking for everyone, Tiki. Your reactions to things are unquestionably the only possible reaction to things, and no one else who likes Metroid could ever have a different opinion than you or else they're Not True Metroid Fans.

>>200242
Okay you got me there, but still not making some extra concessions for that E rating seems to me like a definite miscalculation.

>>200241
>But by all means defense squaddy
I'm not buying the game and don't even own a portable anymore, I just think the drama is absurd

>>200244
...
then what the fuck are you doing arguing here.

>>200238
Anyone who wants a good metroid clone should check out Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight. I just played it recently and loved it. Kinda short but I'll definitely play through it again.

By the way, how was that F-Zero clone that got a digital release on wii u? Looked pretty fun.

>>200250

My brother's been playing it and having a blast with it. And it's...it's fast. It's definitely fast. It's ABSURDLY fast, actually.

Found an Earthbound manga. Have a look:
http://mangaonline.site/read-online/mother-2-giygas-strikes-back-nesss-memoirs-adventure-ch-1-5.html

I really hope that Breath of the Wild isn't Hyrule after the water went away like some people think because that'd completely undermine the ending of Wind Waker.

>>200453
People just need to connect it to the timeline somehow, and with what little information there is the theories run wild. Pay them no heed.

The trailer had hyrule bridge and uses wolf link as a partner.

It screams twilight princess.

>>200455
Gonna guess you don't know about the like, 6 hours of footage they put out for E3.

>>200455
https://youtu.be/nCj58ZW3eR4?t=102

>>200453
Same. I thought the ending already got diminished a bit by ST showing they found the new land and everything, but the whole ocean receding would be too much.

That aside I'm looking forward to the game. Hopefully it'll be as good as it looks. I just hope combat is hard enough to be engaging.

Mm, slipping some sick burns on Zoe Quinn in the new Paper Mario.

Classy Nintendo, real top notch stuff coming out of the treehouse.

>>200494
>>200496

>Gamer Gate is mad because they think Nintendo is making fun of them
>Zoe Quinn and her supporters are mad because they think Nintendo is making fun of her

Why don't you two just fuck already, goddamn.

I feel like, per it being Nintendo (and having seen the whole scene), this is less likely an attack on Miss Quinn or indeed even an ancient watergate joke as some are incorrectly suggesting, but more like a LUDICROUSLY tone deaf attempt to joke about how all scandals are -gate now.

Nintendo aren't evil. They're just eternally out of touch. Criminally so, in many cases, but stupidity before maliciousness and all that.

>>200499
I explicitly stated I didn't think it was that but okay Eron, whatever.

>>200497
>Gamer Gate is mad because they think Nintendo is making fun of them
Someone hasn't been on the subreddit.

>>200502
Again, being fair, that is most likely meant to be a nod to the 5 watergate thieves. That they're fun guys is because they're fungi.

That Nintendo keeps themselves in a bubble and don't understand what other dog turds they've stepped in is a sign of their ignorance, not their evil!

Someone, somewhere along the line should have CAUGHT this though, god damn Ninty get your act together.

Is there some context here that's making people think this is an actual reference rather than just a quintet of dancing mushroom men? Or do people just see the words "Five Guys" and immediately think "Haha, that's the number of people an internet person's boyfriend claimed she slept with, therefore it's a reference!"

Man, Star Fox Zero is really fun co-op.
My scores are so much better!

>>200504
//youtube.com/watch?v=lh16YgtySJI

The scene in question.

Is it someone in the treehouse taking shots? Probably not, but it can be (and has) been construed as such and people have, at best, pinned it to Nintendo's ongoing problem of not wanting to acknowledge anything outside of its little bubble, this being the same company who cited not wanting to "make social commentary" as their reason for no gay tomodachis. Well, that or they've taken it up as a sign that Nintendo is joining the fight against "the SJW menace." Depends on the viewer.

>>200506
Honestly I don't think it's supposed to be anything. Looks like stupid people on the internet having confirmation bias and seeing what they want to see.

>>200508
>Honestly I don't think it's supposed to be anything.
I mean it's at the very least a Watergate joke which, yeah Nintendo, keeping your finger on the pulse of that kid audience.

Okay, I just watched the scene, and have determined definitively: gamers on the internet are retarded and need to go outside.

>>200510
South Parking it. Quite the conviction you got there.

This is the worst thread on the site, god damn.

>>200512

Oh please, the /pol/ threads are much worse than this. This thread is a papercut compared to those raging tire fires.

>>200503
>That Nintendo keeps themselves in a bubble and don't understand what other dog turds they've stepped in is a sign of their ignorance, not their evil!
>
>Someone, somewhere along the line should have CAUGHT this though, god damn Ninty get your act together.

Okay, I really have to take issue with this. Even if it is a reference to GamerGate, that isn't in and of itself a "dog turd." It's a joke that uses the scandal as a framing device. Its a reference that still manages work with the absurdity of the situation (where the humor is derived) organically. It isn't maliciously attacking some person on the Internet, overtly or covertly.

And frankly, the people saying "omg Nintendo is anti-women I'll never buy their products again/canceling my pre-order!" already did this song and dance JUST A WEEK AGO when Link wasn't going to be female. And then AGAIN when Nintendo fired Alison Rapp for perfectly legitimate reasons. At some point the threat of withheld sales is going to lose its sense of potency!

And I shouldn't even have to get into what a joke it is to have the idea that Nintendo is anti-women, particularly the Treehouse, when most of their on-camera presenters were women! Women who delighted in taking off Link's clothes and have him run around naked. Now, I personally found that funny, but holy smoke dudes, ya'll need to wake up and pull your head out of your butt if you think a company has some sort of bias against gender, creed, or color just because of a bleeding -gate joke.

>>200515
>It's a joke that uses the scandal as a framing device.
A bad one, if I may.

>>200516

Yeah, I mean, who thought a Watergate reference was the right way to go?

On the bright side, Nintendo obliquely labelled GamerGate as "an online hate campaign": http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/23/12014436/nintendo-paper-mario-color-splash-gamergate

Shoulda made a Deepthroat joke like MGS did.

>>200518
I mean I can Quinn herself a pass because anyone who had to go through all that bullshit thrown their way would definitely come out with an understandable chip on their shoulder, even if I think she's wrong in her evaluation of this particular joke but anyone else? Holy reaching Batman, regardless of whether you're one of the retards offended by this "gross and horrible attack on women", or you're one of the retards who suckle at Breitbart's anus and think "see Nintendo is with us in the fight against dem dirty Smooth Jazz Waluigis lololol triggered shitlooooords!"

>>200521
k

>>200546
Lotta cool programming ability put into that. Its like the ReShade program for PC games. Utilizing a better algorithms that gets better performance and more features.

//youtube.com/watch?v=eEm_wPGgScU

Good analysis. The Pokemon Co. deserve more credit than Nintendo for experimenting with mobile earlier and enlisting a better mobile partner for Pokemon Go. Miitomo - the highly publicized mobile game from Nintendo and DeNA - fading into obscurity doesn't boost great confidence in future projects. It's fine as a first step, but the severe loss in active players shows Nintendo has a lot to learn about mobile gaming, and they have to learn fast because the audience that made the Wii a hit are out there playing with their iPhones.

They have said repeatedly that the NC isn't VR. They were also very forthcoming on what the E3 showing was going to be, and the detail on both the titles was lavish.

Considering that they're icing out the WiiU soon and quite possibly the 3DS as well, their current behavior makes sense.

>>200670

>if the NX is VR

Nintendo learned its (painful) lesson with the Virtual Boy. I doubt it’ll do a repeat of that horrendous failure.

>>200672
The VB and actual VR are not really comparable.

>>200673

Still, I don’t expect Nintendo to chase that specific trend any time soon. Speculation abounds about the NX doing something with mobile/console synergy, so I’d place bets on something like that rather than any VR nonsense.

Nintendo has said they won't touch VR till its in the mainstream

>>200670
>If they ditch their prehistoric zaibatsu ways, they might not be relegated to only the handheld market.
Jesus nerds get up their own ass with how much better they think they understand the market than the people actually working in it and doing genuine market research.

A generation ago Nintendo redefined the gaming market, this generation they did poorly, so now they're apparently "relegated to the handheld market" (as though the handheld market weren't the most profitable sector for gaming these days anyway, but that's beside the point). Just like the nerds were saying they were when the N64 came out, or the Gamecube.

>>200671
>Considering that they're icing out the WiiU soon and quite possibly the 3DS as well, their current behavior makes sense.

I don't see the 3DS getting the ax anytime soon, but I also don't see it getting a successor either. I think Nintendo will keep the 3DS going for the sake of die hard fans, but in time their focus will shift from handheld to mobile.

>>200677
You do realize that the 3DS has been an unmitigated success, year after year, right?

Eh I'd still rather have my 3DS than a phone with Nintendo Game apps. Though the Nipple is shit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-26-nx-is-a-portable-console-with-detachable-controllers

Huh.

Watching a compilation of a playthrough of dinosaur planet.

This game really is terrible and a cancer on the star fox series, Crystal was a mistake.

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/amiibo-sales-down-60-so-far-this-year/

If Nintendo doesn't find another game like Super Smash Bros. to promote amiibos, it won't be long until it goes the way of Disney Infinity.

>>200737

This has been the trend with Nintendo for thirty years now. Introduce a Gimmick/Device and then barely ever build anything that uses it. Amiibo wasn't going to be any different. Least with the Lego stuff you've for something that's more than a statue to play with.

>>200742
Well, they've tried using games like Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival to keep the momentum going, but to no avail.

>>200744

Its running into the same problem. They are coming out with a lot of titles with Amiibo support but most are VERY limited to what they do.

Yea right now its looking a lot like Disney Infinity in that its touted as some great thing "scan your Amiibos into your favorite games."

But then it turns out to be very limited when only one Amiibo works with this one game... and doesn't really do anything with any other games.

I bought a Shulk Amiibo because it was available and I knew it unlocked a few things in Xenoblade, and because I thought it was a sort of nice figure to have on my entertainment system. I don't think I could ever see myself COLLECTING the things, but owning one or two of characters you like seems kind of fun even with the limited functionality they have.

I finally picked up a Wii U recently and got ahold of Mario Maker.

This game has no right to be as fun as it is.

>>200750
GG!
All I miss is Link and Yoshi.

>>200789

Fucking awesome.

http://kotaku.com/brilliant-fan-remake-of-metroid-ii-arrives-just-in-time-1784929739

Quick, grab it before Nintendo stomps it into oblivion!

>>200799
Nintendo can't stomp it into oblivion if the first anyone heard about it was the release.

Once it's out there it doesn't go away.

>>200799
At least someone gives a fuck about Metroid's 30th.

I played the demo for that garbage they are trying to pass off as a Metroid game and it made me seethe.

That Metroid II remake, though. Fucking legit as hell.

Blargh. Stuck in AM2R. How do you do the in-air dash or whatever that smashes walls where a dash is needed but there isn't enough room to build up speed? Is there a specific technique to doing it, or do I need a specific item to do it (and if so, where in the bloody hell do I find it)?

>>200803
post a screenshot.

>>200804

Googled a bit; shinesparking was what I was talking about. And holy fucking shit, is it hard to do.

>>200806

Not THAT complex (I would hope), but yeah, shit like that. There are at least two or three items in AM2R that require shinesparking to get.

>>200806
I remember having to Shinespark a few times for Zero Mission (not sure if I did this exactly).

It was for the only time so far I've ever gotten 100% completion for a Metroid-type of game. It'll probably remain such, because in hindsight I only ever tried that because this was back when I couldn't afford many games (instead of having a bunch I never get to) and wanted to get as much from them as possible.

>>200816
No one cares.

Not even a little.

>>200816
Probably not because they thought it was ready, bust just because they realised they just let Metroid's 30th aniverssary pass without doing anything and everyone else noticed. To me the only glaring problem is the highlights on the armour being a bit sharp. Shifting everything over to the elft a bit would also help with the composition a lot since things look a bit sqeezed to the right.

Those seem like they can be fixed easily enough. Similarly, I would think run speed is something they might have already tweaked based on playtesting.

>>200816
A 3DS screen shot looks kind of mediocre? Well better ddos Nintendo, clearly they're out to murder Samus.

>>200819
It comes out on the 18th, it couldn't be more final.

It looks worse than Hunters for fucksake, the demos out.

>>200822
No one will DDoS Nintendo because
>>200817
>>200818
Exactly. Nintendo had enough rope to hang themselves on this and they did an airtight job.

Man, I fucking hate fighting the metroids in AM2R. Nothing about it is fun or feels good in any way.

>>200824

If the hitboxes weren't so fucking hard to hit, it’d be so much better. The last-form Metroids are the worst in that regard.

At least the final boss doesn’t pose a huge challenge. I only needed two attempts to waste that fucker.

>>200823
>Exactly. Nintendo had enough rope to hang themselves on this and they did an airtight job.
I at least (and I believe Dude) was referring to your complaining about it, not the game (though no, I don't care about that either).

>>200827
Who cares either way, I said my piece.

>>200828
Repeatedly, for months.

There's at least one good Metroidvania every other month, fucking play those.

>>200829

I AM BUT I CRAVE MORE, MOOOOOOOOOOORE!

>>200830

Would you say you…hunger?

>>200830
The point being that those games are a everywhere, they just aren't called Metroid. If you want a once great Nintendo franchise buried by garbage, it's Fire Emblem. No substitutes for that shit!

>>200838

Fire Emblem got better with waifus and difficulty settings, deal with it nerd

>>200844
>Panders harder
>Sells better
>Therefore it must be higher quality

>>200845
Difficulty Settings have objectively made Fire Emblem games better than previous titles. The only reason to object to them is if you feel like your hipster cred is being ruined by letting "casuals" play in the same sandbox as you.

>>200846
The difficulty settings are a good addition.

The new art design, return of breeding (the worst part of 4), the focus on grinding FOR bvreeding, and the awful map design form a really horrifying blend

the last good FE was 10

>>200847
The map design in Conquest was fine.

If that's the case, sure, lets add more difficulty settings to games where the challenge was a game mechanic.
I won't have to search frantically for bonfires anymore. I won't miss that.

>>200851
>If that's the case, sure, lets add more difficulty settings to games where the challenge was a game mechanic.

Challenge is not a game mechanic, ever. There are really only three things "challenge" in a game can be: 1.) a voluntary obstacle people take on for the purpose of increasing their own level of enjoyment/engagement 2.) bad game design excused as intentional or artistic or 3.) a dick measuring contest for gaming hipsters.

Difficulty settings don't do anything to remove a player's ability to engage in #1, which is the only one of the three that is a positive or even neutral thing for a game to offer.

>>200851
>I won't have to search frantically for bonfires anymore. I won't miss that.
Oh, so you decided to turn off permadeath then? Because I sure didn't.

>>200852
Anon, you have no souls.

>>200852
Don't you shit talk Shovel Knight.

>>200856

Shovel Knight actually does have a very intelligent kind of difficulty setting in its in-level save system. You can leave the savepoints alone and play on easy, or you can break them open and "loot" them for more gems, i.e. playing on "hard."

>>200852
Relevant.
//youtube.com/watch?v=A4_auMe1HsY

The fact the Samus is the final boss could not be more of a fuck up.

"Finish the job this game started and literally kill the franchise!"

>>200895
Really? I remember people saying they hoped that's exactly how it would end when it was first announced. Makes Samus actually relevant to the game, and makes her look badass when even in defeat she manages to escape or at least get captured on her own terms.

Actually, let me look up the ending myself and oh look she not only lives but also saves your life twice during the ending, first by exploding enemies and secondly by saving you from drifting off into deep space without a ship. Saying the game ends with you killing Samus is nothing short of deceptive.

>>200895
>Finish the job this game started
Other M was 6 years ago and by Sakamoto himself, pull your head out of your ass.

>>200899
>Saying the game ends with you killing Samus is nothing short of deceptive.

Welcome to Tiki's shitposting modus operandi. You can see it at work in full effect in other boards like +/co/'s DC thread.

>>200899
>>200900
>>200901
Okay, fair enough, I really fucked that up, I wasn't try to be deceptive I just got angry when the rocks fell on her before fully finishing the video.

>>200900
Though to be fair, just because you create create something doesn't mean you can't then fuck it up.

I.e. Sticker Star.

>>200905
He's saying that Sakamoto had nothing to do with this game.

>>200909
No, I was saying that Metroid had been dead for many years before they even announced FF, and it was killed by its own creator.

There are many amazing Metroidvanias out there, stop whining and go play them. Axiom Verge, there's your Metroid game Tiki.

>>200910
Shit. We should kill off Mario too then, since there's so many platformers out there.

>>200911
Mario isn't a habitual terrible seller. Metroid is. And my point, as you'd recognize if your head wasn't lodged firmly up your ass, is not that we "should kill" Metroid but rather that it's been dead for ages anyway.

It's a franchise which never did well and which you can get the benefits of elsewhere. Tiki's whining is founded on nothing.

>>200912
its almost as if videogames mattered to people.

>>200912

And Metroid is basically the same core story retold with a slightly different perspective or aesthetic. (It’s like StarFox in that respect. And that whole “fuck this franchise” treatment.) How many times do you want to see/play as Samus fighting the same creatures over and over again? Ooooh, Ridley and Kraid for the twentieth fucking iteration—what a fucking thrill! Oh look, Mother Brain is alive—again! We get the fucking point, Nintendo, try something new for a motherfucking change.

…look, I’m not actually as salty about this as the paragraph above implies, but if you’re upset about the Metroid franchise getting the shaft, maybe ask yourself whether it’s the franchise or the gameplay that you love. Because a majority of the Metroid franchise is about telling the same one-dimensional story—with the same one-dimensional protagonist and many of the same enemies—in multiple iterations.

>>200914

I'm not a huge Metriod person but I do want to say that I feel like the story, like Star Fox, has massive untapped potential. Also like Star Fox when they tried to lean more into a new direction with the story they fumbled the ball horribly, then didn't try again. And that's really a complaint I have with a lot of Nintendo games now that I think about it. The gameplay in many of these games is very fun and addictive (often better implemented than any other 3rd-party clones), and that causes me to become attached to the characters in these games, and in turn I want to see their "stories" unfold and evolve. I want to see what happens to Star Fox, Samus, and even Mario. However Nintendo seems to either not want to attach a more complex story to their games or is unable to do so without it turning into a mess.

>>200910
I beat it already. I literally own every existing Metroidvania. Currently waiting on Ghost Song, Hollow Knight and Bloodstained. All of which I backed.

>>200916

>has massive untapped potential.

Agreed.