/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

Also holy shit both of the Ma Non spaceship themes are the greatest thing ever.

Ah hell, all of the songs I've heard for this game so far are great.
http://music.163.com/#/djradio?id=1060004

>3DS system sales are down over 28% for the fiscal year ended March 2015, from 12.24m in the previous year to 8.73m.
>WiiU system sales are up over 24% for the fiscal year ended March 2015, from 2.72m in the previous year to 3.38m.
>3DS worldwide LTD hardware: 52.06m, software: 225.66m, tie-ratio: 4.33. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150507e.pdf …
>WiiU worldwide LTD hardware: 9.54m, software: 56.68m, tie-ratio: 5.94.
>Nintendo's 3DS system sales forecast for this fiscal year: 7.6m, down nearly 13%. WiiU forecast: 3.4m, up 1%.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150507e.pdf

>>194772
>Very Portal style opening.

I love it.

>>194772
Digging the character designs and punny names for the shopkeepers.

>>194791
Are they being Xenophobic?

>those singing voices on the Squid sisters
Consider my boner killed.

>>194791
Will do, I don't give a shit about Kotaku anyway.

>>194794
Good.

>>194813
How is the lack of voicechat?

//youtube.com/watch?v=R2LdOOLtPh0

Skip to 27:30.

>>194814
Honestly? Didn't feel like that big a deal. Maybe having it would've helped a tiny bit, but not having it didn't ruin it.

>>194817
You have pre-set messages mapped to the D-pad that when someone uses, it appears on the TV, causes your teams' Gamepads to rumble and shows you who said it if you want to super jump to them. So it's not like there's no communication.

sticky thread pls

Oh, Splatoon *is* fun.
I think I like the default super soaker the most though.

>>194772
This game came about after someone playing with the Friction Goo in Portal 2. I just know it.

>>194831
Hasn't he been saying that he wanted to make things region free for a while now? From what I've heard Iwata is a relatively progress-minded guy and most of the really boneheaded decisions come from the other more old-fashioned Nintendo heads.

>>194831
One does wonder why they decided on region locking in the first place.
What perceived advantage it has.

>>194834
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_lockout

>A regional lockout may be enforced for several reasons, such as to stagger the release of a certain product, to hinder grey market imports by enforcing price discrimination, or to prevent users from accessing certain content in their territory because of legal reasons (either due to censorship laws, or because a distributor does not have the rights to certain intellectual property outside of their specified region).

//youtube.com/watch?v=wW3XovKTlKs
Well played.

//youtube.com/watch?v=pjPOSKnOftA

>>194897
Probably the same amount of mad if literally anyone gets into Smash. There's no satisfying everyone. No matter who gets in, there will be a group of people happy that they did and a group of people absolutely furious that they did and the second group is always louder. The arguments are usually the same too: who cares about this character, they don't deserve it, why not this other character, a wasted spot that could've been this other character, really any form of "not the character I wanted".

>>194919
How do you fuck up that bad?

Like this:
//youtube.com/watch?v=zbvzyY1FKr0

>>194921
...oh, it was supposed to be a joke then...yeah that was just poorly thought out, that video is amazing though.

>>194922
>"joke"

Bill is dead

All hail Tanner

Trinen stole my bike, Trinen stole my brike, Trinen stole my bike...

>>194929
//youtube.com/watch?v=4w8Pd0OtK9E

>>194950
>also
Rock > Pop

So will the championship be custom made carts again? I know it doesn't need to be, but tradition.

Has anyone deciphered all the Squid Runes yet?

These comics are adorable.

I am completely flabbergasted why Nintendo is pushing this so hard.

>>195032
Because they realize that new IPs need to be pushed hard or people won't be interested.

>>195032
It's essentially Nintendo's Titanfall.

>>195032
Really? Because it's difficult for people to warm up to new IP's from them.

>>195036
They still have a reputation as a company that all it does is rehash the same ips over and over again even after they've created many new ips by now.

>>195040
The problem is that few of their original IPs have gained the notoriety that their core IPs have. The last IP to gain any lasting recognition was probably Pikmin (maybe Xenoblade?). So they put out new games from their core IPs because there are a ton of people who will buy them, versus their lesser-known IPs with smaller fan bases. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, yet people keep harping that rehash meme despite the relative variety they put in their "rehashes".

>>195043
Xenoblade isn't an original IP. It was created by Square.

>>195045
It was created by Monolith Soft, which is a second party developer owned by Nintendo.

>>195047
Xenoblade is a spinoff of the Xenosaga games, made for PS2, which were a spinoff of Xenogears, created by Square.

Either way, it's not a new IP. It had an established fanbase before it was even announced.

>>195049
Wait, are the Xenosaga/gears games a lot like /blade? I knew it was a sort of spiritual successor, but I thought that was mainly because it was done by a lot of the same talent.

>>195053
Gameplay-wise, no. Story-wise, also no. Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Xenoblade are not spin-offs of each other but are actually considered in that they are all loosely tied together through being in the same general universe and having close thematic ties to one another. They each play largely different to one another (though -gears and -saga play similarly being more traditional turn-based RPGs each with their own quirks) and all have their own original story and setting. It shouldn't really be considered as an IP in its whole, but more of a titling gimmick that creator Tetsuya Takahashi does for his games (Xenoblade Chronicles was actually titled Monado when it began, but changed for to be added to Takahashi's gaming universe). Even Xenoblade Chronicles X is considered a spiritual successor to Xenoblade Chronicles having almost absolutely nothing to do with each other other than once again being led by Takahashi.

>>195049
With the above reasons (and also legal reasons due to company ownership), Xenoblade is in fact a brand new IP, just as Xenosaga is its own IP separate from Xenogears. Having absolutely brand new characters, setting, and gameplay, the established fanbase was more so for Takahashi's work than for looking forward to a sequel/tie-in to an exisiting and established franchise.

>>195049
The only way that Xenoblade is related to Xenosaga or Xenogears is that it had the same team working on it. It's not even called Xeno-anything in Japan. It's "Monado: Beginning of the World." The "Xenoblade" name is something the Western publishers decided to stick on it to put people in mind of Xenogears, but it is an entirely unrelated game with zero overlap in terms of continuity, lore, recurring elements, or philosophy.

>>195059
>Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Xenoblade are not spin-offs of each other but are actually considered spiritual successors
I somehow forgot to type that last bit into that sentence. Kind of the whole point. This is also the tl;dr version, I guess.

>>195060
>It's not even called Xeno-anything in Japan.
Yes it is. It's called "ゼノブレイド" there. The only difference between the Japanese and Western names is we added Chronicles. It's true it started off as "Monado: Beginning of the World", but Nintendo chose to formall rename it to "Xenoblade" midway through development.

>>195059
>Even Xenoblade Chronicles X is considered a spiritual successor to Xenoblade Chronicles having almost absolutely nothing to do with each other other than once again being led by Takahashi.
While X isn't a direct sequel, it's more than a spiritual successor. It's the same team and heavily uses the same game mechanics and some races. Story and characters are completely different, though. It's a sequel in the same way that the core Final Fantasy games are sequels to the prior one.

>>195066
>The only difference between the Japanese and Western names is we added Chronicles.
Which, as I understand, was to help differentiate it from Xenogears/Xenosaga further.

>>195086
Man what the fuck is up with those title names.

>195089
Sawano now names all of his songs by buying an expanded-character keyboard and letting two hamsters have frolicking sex on it. Whatever they type out is the name of his song.

>>195089
He likes trying to make puzzles out of his song titles. Don't unscramble the alternating letters for CD 03 Track 13 by the way. It's a spoiler for who the final boss is.

I'm about half way through listening, and while I enjoy most of the songs there doesn't seem to be enough variety. XC had great variety, from orchestral pieces to heavy blood-pumping guitar when fighting to extremely peaceful themes like Valek Mountain. I think the only music I didn't like from that one were Riki's Theme (it fit the character, but I just didn't like the music) and the single one with lyrics. I'm hoping that CDs 3 and 4 will have more of that, especially the guitar stuff.

>>195108
Part of that has to do with the fact that XC's soundtrack was composed by three separate people/groups with their own specialties. The 3rd CD is mostly environmental songs and 4 is piano remixes/instrumentals of previous tunes so you might be disappointed.

>>195111
You're right, the fourth CD has that variety I wanted for (3rd somewhat less). Still not enough shredding IMO, and too much stupid hip hop, but overall very enjoyable.

Someone ban Mumbles McGee from doing anymore songs for this guy. Hard enough to hear him struggling to hit the notes in In the Forest, but I'm pretty sure I heard him singing about his mom in one of the lines.

>>195123
If it's anything like the Kill La Kill soundtrack, the lyrics are extremely literal. So whoever's theme that is supposed to be, something happened to their mom.

>>195128
It's basically the sung version of the first song on the OST, so Deus probably has an Oedipus complex if Gears is any indication.

Some of the songs actually sound very Kajiuran/Xenosaga-ish. So Nah So Fern in particular, especially the instrumental version. Can't find this game's Godzibb/Zanza though, and I don't think NoEx01 counts.

//youtube.com/watch?v=2Mo7esa1Tfk

Sonic Boom was never meant to be on Wii U and the system couldn't handle the CryEngine 3. Unfortunately, Sega made that Sonic exclusive deal with Nintendo and gave BRB little time to make the game work on Wii U.

Oddly enough the second half of Black Tar isn't too bad, in a weird so bad it's kinda good way, compared to the first half.

>>194896
So nobody's going to talk about how utterly retarded this commercial is?

>>195158
Yeah, Nintendo's marketing switches between great and embarrassing all the time. If anything that commercial will probably dissuade some people from getting the game.

>>195158
My favorite part is that this is for a game rated E10+. How many kids over 10 wouldn't find this juvenile?

>>195158
Seems like they're trying for the whole 90's Nickelodeon retro feel, and going overboard with it.

>>195160
>If anything that commercial will probably dissuade some people from getting the game.
I have my doubts.
It's hardly good, but the average nobody won't put much into it.

>>195160
I remember Nintendo being really aggressive with marketing to kids back in the early days of Pokemon and the N64 era, though that might just be my memories going wrong, whatever happened to that?

In fact, Video Game advertising in general is nowhere near what it used to be in TV or anything aimed at kids. I guess parents complained too much about it? Like with the whole "Gotta Catch 'em All=Gotta Buy them all" thing?

I don't really watch TV anymore but the only channels that seem to show video game ads are Spike and other shit aimed at an older demographic, and those are mostly PS/Xbox ads.

>>195164
I didn't even notice how bad the jingle was because I was too fixated on the gameplay being shown, and isn't that what matters when you're advertising a game?. No one's going to really give a damn about the jingle, especially when so many worse commercials worm their way onto TV.

Fucking Wendy's and their "memer."

>>195158
For a kid commercial, it's honestly not that bad. Kid marketing is really dumb.

>>195174
The problem is this isn't Mario Party or some random licensed Nickelodeon crap. It's something that was heavily hyped as a hardcore title and a new Nintendo IP. Plus it's rated E10+, so why have a commercial that appeals mostly to young children?

>>195173
>I was too fixated on the gameplay being shown, and isn't that what matters when you're advertising a game?

No. If you advertise nothing but gameplay, the average consumer doesn't really know what to make of it and the general reaction is "Huh, ok." Meanwhile, if you show something like the Japanese commercial for this game, it's far more interesting and incites speculation while still giving you everything you need to know about the game.

//youtube.com/watch?v=dZyevotlKJw

>>195175
>hyped as a hardcore title
This is very clearly focused as a family friendly game.
When and how was it marketed as a hardcore title?

>>195176
Don't you know, a shooter is hardcore by definition.

>>195189
Well...yeah, it kinda is. It's not something you can just pick up and play, and it's not something someone's mother would most likely enjoy.

>>195190
It's been carefully designed to be as casualcore as possible so everyone can enjoy it.
A colorful painting game where you're a kid/you're a squid.

>>195190
>It's not something you can just pick up and play
I'm pretty sure that's actually the point.
Gameplay is extremely quick and simple. It's colorful and bright. The rounds are only about 3 minutes long. This game is centered around being a casual friendly experience.

>>195158
I'm actually bothered by how it starts off with "You're a kid now", just because presumably the commercial is directed towards kids, and "you're a kid *now*" suggests the audience was not in fact a kid before seeing the ad. If it said squid first and then kid, that would confuse me less.

>>195197
Well now you're just over-analyzing it.

People are seriously complaining that a game where you play an anthropomorphised child squid spraying colourful paint around an arena is being marketed towards its target audience? Jesus wept.

>>195200
>target audience

It's rated E10+. Also, the song is cringe-worthy. I would've thought it was stupid even as a kid.

>>195201
>It's rated E10+
Yeah, largely intended for kids, though still enjoyable by most. What's your point?

>>195197
That's just silly. You're silly.

>>195202
So Super Smash Bros is largely intended for kids?

>>195204
I'd say so, but there's nothing that's stopping you or anyone above that age group from enjoying it.

>>195204
Yes. Yes it is.

I wonder if any of the free DLC modes will end up being a traditional deathmatch.

>>195202
>That's just silly. You're silly.
Well that is entirely accurate.

>>195201
Suitable for kids ten and up, and clearly aimed at kids ten and up. I am utterly dumbfounded that anybody's reality filter could fuck up so badly as to look at a game called Splatoon and assume it's aimed at adults.

https://www.humblebundle.com/

Holy crap, Nintendo. This is actually a very cool thing to do!

>>195257
Just came here to post that. I found it surprisingly unexpected. I think I'll pony up for it, even though I only have a 3DS at the moment, just because it's a cool thing and I want them to do more of it.

>>195257
If I have any money over after Spatoon:SE, sure.

>>195257
Wait... ITS REGION LOCKED TO AMERICA ONLY!
FUCK! ME!

>>195288
Are you sure? I bought it just fine and I'm in Canada

>>195290
Canada is in America.
You're thinking of the United States.

>>195293
>paying attention to Game Theory
Really?

>>195086
The account that had those soundtracks is now dead, but someone else uploaded the entire thing as one "video": //youtube.com/watch?v=fpFHH_vXVno

Hopefully this one isn't taken down anytime soon.

>>195302
Fucking Sony, this shit happened even with the direct game rips.

And because my local GAME store maybe dying, they did not get in Splatoon...

But they did have one hell of a sale!

Got a vinyl DJ-PON3 figure, Virtua Fighter 5, Bionic Comando the shitty one and some wild berry Skittles for like 150kr.

Also may get it digital because testfire deal... BUT I DONT HAVE THE SPACE! AHHHHH!

//youtube.com/watch?v=BKhO7ZVjtkc

Got Splatoon digitaly, first match had a Matt and Zack in it. what are the odds.
Also Gamestop also did not get any disc copys of it when I got my money codes, strange...
Stay fresh!

//youtube.com/watch?v=RE-orx_HTfE

Humble Nindie Bundle has three more games if you pay above the average:
-Sportsball (Wii U)
-Gunman Clive (3DS)
-BIT.TRIP Presents... Runner2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien (Wii U)

If you already purchased the bundle and paid above average at the time, these are already added to your Page.
http://humblebundle.com/

>>195403
But I already have BTPR2FLoRA!

>realize someone is coming up behind me
>run a corner, ink a wall and squid into it
>an enemy roller goes past
>kid out and kill him from behind
If they ever add a deathmatch mode, it will be very interesting.

Any idea why I seem to only get Japanese players when I "Call Someone Online" in Pokemon Rumble World?

>>195513
But players can totally beef it.

>>195518

>actually showing the Dale Gribble one

GREAT JOB

>>195531
Wait, so they won't allow voice chat, but people can use miiverse or something to have drawings above their character?

>>195534
Taking the time to spell out a word still takes more effort than yelling into a mic, making it harder and less convenient to speak thoughtlessly.

>>195536
But I assume it's like an icon, so can't you can write "ur fags" once and then everyone who checks your profile/avatar will see it?

>>195534
The plaza acts like a splatoon-specific wara wara plaza; other people's inklings wander about saying their miiverse posts.

I wonder if people are already complaining about the plenty of miiverse stuff on the "this seems kinda inappropriate for kids" from parents or the "eww gross and creepy and problematic" tumblr way.

>>195550
>"Splat Roller da!"
Nice.

>Is a professional artist.
>Can't draw miiverse stuff for shit.

>>195550
Okay, call me what you will, but I can't be the only one who finds it kinda weird how readily they're sexualizing this underage character.
>inb4 its normal in nihon

>>195554
Thing is, I don't think it's really considered "sexualizing" there. Sexualizing would have to actually involve nudity. This is spandex butts and midriffs.

>>195555
With visible 14-year old cameltoes? It's Japan so no amount of impotent Tumblrbabby rage is going to stop it, but it does creep me out when I see it coming from the Western artists who should know better.

>>195555
I dunno, I mean there isn't a sentence that says "Sexualizing is THIS amount of skin, any milimeter less doesn't count." You'd consider Zero Suit Samus a sexually charged design and yet she only shows her face - Sexuality doesn't solely involve nudity in any case.

I don't even wanna make a beef out of this but I just find it odd that they're so readily shining and emphasizing little girl butts. Which is a shame because I really like pretty much all that art otherwise.

>>195557
I don't consider Zero Suit Samus a sexualized design. I don't understand people that do, unless it's just because it's tight enough to show her buttcrack. Now, ass-shots of Samus in it? That's another story, but the entire concept behind the suit itself actually makes more sense than what she wore under the suit before.

>>195558
Zero Suit Samus seems to have been invented purely to put Samus in situations where you could see her figure. You can make arguments about exactly how egregiously sexualized it is if you like, but if the only reason ZSS exists is so you can see her butt and boobs, it doesn't matter that it doesn't show much skin--it was invented to allow her to be sexier. People can handle Master Chief keeping his armor on all the time, but with Samus it was apparently REALLY IMPORTANT that the audience know how big her tits are. Important enough to justify plot additions.

And yes, I'm aware that Samus has run around in outfits that showed more skin. That doesn't really matter though, because it's still the same situation. Getting Samus in increasing states of undress has always been a "reward" for especially good players. The fact that it doesn't reach the level of softcore porn doesn't mean it's not being done purely for titillation.

ARE WE GETTING AN NX REVEAL THIS E3?!

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/7/8743629/the-nintendo-e3-2015-rumor-generator-seems-legit

>>195563
>Strawman.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
That said, its still canon. Painfully and regretably. But still canon.

>>195563
How can you see a suit that hugs her figure THAT tightly and not think it's intentionally being sexualized? She's basically wearing nothing but body paint.

So.
Our conclusion seems to be, absolutely no female character is safe from being in a sexuality-related situation within their games, even if they're kids.

>>195567
Even that pose, which is an official image, has her turning her torso in a way that allows you to see her ass and boobs at the same time.

>>195562
Completely irrelevant but god I fucking hate wedge heels. I hate how they look, I hate how they feel, and I also hate how people assume I'm a man whenever I say so (I'm guessing because of this http://thestir.cafemom.com/beauty_style/157898/Men_Hate_Wedge_Shoes_So).

>>195583
Is hating the zero suit really tumblr now? I thought that was near-universally loathed outside of the obvious porn. Centaur art has been mocked far before tumblr was ever a thing too.

>>195587
It was loathed for its gratuitous use in Other M, and the redesign with the retarded heels. Before that, most were cool with it. Because outside of a small playable section of Zero Mission and Brawl, it wasn't really a big deal.

>>195588
I didn't like the Zero Suit cuz it seemed kinda redundant, y'know? The way I conceptualised the Metroid universe in my head, the environments Samus ventured through should have been so intrinsically hostile to human habitation that one whiff of the atmosphere would make her body explode. So in that sense, what Samus wore under the suit should have been utterly irrelevant, a tank top and a pair of boxers maybe, because once the suit was compromised death instantly followed. Having the Zero Suit as a backup lessened the universe's atmosphere in my mind.

>>195587
Anything that criticizes a video game's handling of a female character in any way shape or form is Tumblr now. Didn't you get the memo? Criticism of how things like that are handled has been outlawed by Anonymous. The only thing you're allowed to criticize a video game for without being called a Tumblr puppet is being too anime or not having enough polygons.

>>195593
>female characters should NEVER LOOK SEXY EVER

Yeah I'm sorry anon, but that's blatant tumblr bait.

>>195594
No, you're trying to interpret what was said in a way that allows you to be offended. Which is exactly what you complain about Tumblr doing.

What was said was that the Zero Suit is sexualized, and that many of the drawings we've been seeing of the Inklings are also sexualized. We didn't say you're not allowed to enjoy it, we didn't say any game that includes it should be set on fire, we said that it is clearly sexualized and designed for titillation. There is not really any way to seriously make the argument that the Zero Suit was not introduced to give teenagers boners, nor that many of those drawings people have been complaining about regarding Inklings were not drawn with the intention of giving people boners for fourteen year old girls.

You can choose how to react to that. You can choose not to be concerned about it. But standing in denial of the reality here is completely retarded and shows how much this subject has become a tribal warfare bullshit for people like you. You are refusing to actually think critically about things that are put in front of you because you want to belong to the tribe and want to make sure no one thinks you might sympathize with Tumblr.

I just find it weird how any opinion is instantly Tumblr now.

>>195596
It's not that weird, sadly. Accusing someone of being a Tumblrina, regardless of whether it's true or not, has in the past successfully shut down the conversation and made people stop saying things that make you uncomfortable but that you might not be prepared to make arguments against. Tumblr has become the boogeyman for Anonymous, and because of that Tumblr Witch Hunts have started working like any other Witch Hunt--they allow people to silence and demonize their opposition without having to actually engage any points or put any effort or thought into it.

It's incredibly stupid, but it's also tragically predictable behavior.

>>195599
Fakku's getting in on it too.

>>195584
>>195593
Actually, it's about ethics in videogame journalism. #pravda

>#skub

>>195607
Better to complain about them trying to stir up shit in completely unrelated threads >>195604.

//youtube.com/watch?v=lQh2OIYLkrw

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/nintendo-world-championship-2015-splatoon/

More details, Eight Titles with Legend of Zelda and Splatoon being two of those.

>>195589

I thought Zebes was the home planet of the Chozo, where Samus grew up after being orphaned. Leaving aside places filled with Lava, Samus could have taken off her helmet at any time and been fine. SR388 might also be breathable/livable for humans as well, if the space station in Fusion didn't require special suites to walk into the various eco-system stations. Then again, the cinematic of Samus getting infected by the X Parasite showed scientists in powered armor. Not sure if that was for breathing or for protetion.

As for the other games, such as the Prime series, I'm honestly not sure, but anything taking place on Zebes wouldn't require the power armor just for survival.

>>195664
Oh shit, I thought the whole world championships thing was fake and just for the promo video. You're telling me it's a real thing and actually happening?

>>195665
I dunno, the idea of Samus escaping in her lil'-explorer-spacesuit and having to fashion larger protective suits as she got older sounds kind of adorable.