/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

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Good, this is still a thing.

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>>191646
good

>>191638
It will be nothing but Intolerable GamberGuck and SJW Whining (for and against, whatever): The Show

Who here has tried This War of Mine? The subject matter seems pretty interesting and the idea that it's a war game that actually tells story through the gameplay itself is kinda compelling.

>>191638
Last year, Gone Home soaked up all the hatred. Who will be this year's target?

>>191669
DQ probably although I'd say AC:U is more deserving. Or maybe not, because shitty as it is AC:U is pretty fucking funny for all the wrong reasons. DQ is just boringly mediocre.

>DQ is just boringly mediocre.

AND made by a woman with opinions and a haram haircolor. Utter /v/-bait.

>>191677

All games, or just specific genres?

Because I’m just plain horrible when it comes to FPSes.

>>191678
All games. FPS, platformer, strategy, fighting... you name it.

>>191679
Tfry stuff that doesn't take a lot of hand eye coordination, like Portal, or p&c adventure stuff. Things you can actually take your time with.

//youtube.com/watch?v=qj6jREPcp10

>>191685
You really don't have to keep posting his videos on here, he's big enough that I'm sure enough lots of people here are subscribed to him that they know what he's saying already or otherwise have no interest in seeing his stuff. As for the actual video I'm too tired to comment but I agree with 70%, disagree with 20%, and tepidly agree with the remaining 10% but see it in a different light. How I usually am with his vids in general.

>>191707
I enjoyed the ride.

There are games that are tough but fair. Metal Slug is not one of those games.

>>191707
I'm still surprised on how they are still kind of relevant, specially considering how mediocre they have become over the past few years.

>>191713
They are nostalgia fodder. They were never good.

Are any of the Crash games post-PS1 worth playing (Twinsanity, Crash of the Titans, Mind over Mutant)? I'll admit I hate the redesign in Titans but I do like the idea of co-op. If it's a fun game I don't want my love/nostalgia of the original games to keep me from playing them

>>191732
Chip Cheezum is one of my perennial favorites, supergreatfriend doesn't have a ton of games but he's good as far as completionists go, and TBFP is hit or miss but usually more on the hit side. Chuggaaconroy is decent if you like Nintendo games. Don't waste your time with Game Grumps. They're not even really LPers, and I just don't really find them funny anymore.

>>191732
>I have no time to seat an play by myself
You certainly do. You just choose to spend your precious free time differently, which is totally fine. If you feel alienated because your friends are spending theirs with playing games, watching LPs isn't gonna help at all. If you're interested in it, ask your friends if they can help you get into it. Playing games together is always a lot more fun. If you're not interested, just accept that it isn't for you and try to get your friends to talk about stuff you care about or just take your lumps. Hell, I'm the complete reverse. I love talking to my friends about games, art and science, but as soon as the conversation veers to the latest gossip and who's fucking who now, I completely punch out.
All that said, if you want to watch LPs because you genuinely enjoy them, that's totally cool. We've got an entire thread for that stuff:>>190608

>>191739
>Chip Cheezum
>supergreatfriend
>Chuggaaconroy
Thanks

>TBFP
Can't heard that name without cringeing since the Aquaman video

>>191741
>Implying I have friends

I'm really glad that in Far Cry 4 they talk shit about 3's lame protagonist, Ajay is a million times better.

>>191746
>Can't heard that name without cringeing since the Aquaman video
Are there really people who stopped watching TBF because they think DC is lame?

>>191750
As someone who FUCKING LOVES DC, DC is FUCKING LAME.

>>191750
They only think Aquaman is lame, that is being cheap and proudly ignorant.

>>191769
Is Aquaman your boyfriend or something?

>>191773
Ugh.

I love Tim and Double Fine but I really fucking hope this fails for to the fucking cynicism here.

//youtube.com/watch?v=xml2_CfTevM

There will never be another marketing like Sega's marketing.

>>191787
Almost all of 90's marketing was like this, though.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/26/7294993/assassins-creed-unity-is-broken-so-ubisoft-is-giving-players-free-dlc

Ubisoft attempts to make amends for Unity's awful launch with free stuff.

>>191835
Think you missed the LP thread friend.

>>191836
Totally did.

Looks like Linden Lab ditched patterns in favor of buying Ipad only junk. Annoying. It looked like a lot of nice things could be made with it, but was the kind of thing I felt I should wait until I have a job to spend money on.

Are SLI Rigs still that uncommon that they don't test for them that well? I don't have one specifically for that reason that I hear a good number of games can't handle that kinda processing.

//youtube.com/watch?v=aZNjmG5YUvU

At least Aaron Webber is having fun.

>possible Marvel/Star Wars worlds in Kingdom Hearts
>Luke Skyzippers, Belts Widow, and Beltan America
NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>191894
Oh grow up, Nomura never changes the designs of existing Disney characters, not counting the main trio. He hasn't even had the belts and zippers obsession for quite a while. Just look at FFXV.

>>191903
>nofunallowed.tiff

>>191903
>Just look at FFXV
Again, that's because he didn't actually design the clothes. Square was smart and had a pro fashion designer named Hiromu Takahara do them.

>>191905
Regardless, ever since KH2 Nomura has been moving away from belts & zippers, he's aware of that criticism.

>>191894
I don't care, I actually want this to happen just because it would be the funniest thing ever.

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Chaos Maths made as a game.

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Best part of The Game Awards.

Out of all video games that would make excellent movies, I really, really wish Castlevania was one. I actually think it has more potential than Metal Gear, to be honest. Just don't base it on Lord of Shadow for god's sake.

/rant

There was a bit of a translation kerfuffle involving NIS and their financial status vis a vis the sales of Disgaea 5. It turned out to not be much in the end but the comment that interested me is that the producer says their target sales number is 150k. 150k. I can't believe that, has AAA production gone so insane that teams are shuttered for 3 million while niche companies like NIS chug along with 150k?

>>192070
>has AAA production gone so insane that teams are shuttered for 3 million while niche companies like NIS chug along with 150k?
Yes. And we've known this for a while now.

>>192090
on one hand
YES THANK YOU ITS CURRENTLY UNREASONABLY HUGE
on the other
FUCK I JUST BOUGHT A WII U

>>192090
I dunno, it looks more like they superimposed the game pad screen shot (as one does), but they put it on too big, which is accentuated by the blur.
It looks the same from every other angle.

>>192103
Dunno, would the hands be that big on the normal one?

>>192104
As big as the hands are on it, there's still the issue of the screen appearing to take up more space on the controller itself.

Though it seems odd they would use it there instead of making an announcement or something about it.
I think it's just superimposed.

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https://wayforward.com/games/shantae-half-genie-hero/
Paypal donations close in 3 hours.

>>192187
Oh hey, Hero mode got funded, shame there is no way they'll make A dish served cold.

>Telltale Minecraft story mode
WHAT THE FUCK

>>192256
"by telltale" is the new "by platinum."

>Platinum will remember that.

>>192261
Was I the only one who played on Minimalistic mode? I really enjoyed how enveloping it was without a constant HUD, subtitles and tooltip icons distracting from whatever was happening.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/12/17/assassins-creed-unity-patch-mistakenly-mutates-into-40gb-game-replacement-on-xbox-one/

Ubisoft is the comedy gift that keeps on giving.

>>192280
You can say that again.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/12/17/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-tetris-ps4

>>192289
I do love this strange animal that saints row has become.

>>192291
I think Volition recognizes that GTA and all the open-world action games in the same vein are kind of absurd to begin with, so they just decided to take it to the extreme and make their series as batshit insane as they could after Saints Row 2.

No Man's Sky sounds like an interesting game on paper, but I can't really get excited about it due to a lack of knowledge as to what it exactly is. Expectations and hype are at such massive levels that I'm anticipating a GIGANTIC level of hype backlash.

>>192314

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in talk it sounds like a fascinating thing to see if it works as they plan. Also highly ambitious.

>The Last of Us

I hate this camera so much and I can't even describe why.

Replaying Dead Space 1 & 2 (The only existing Dead Space games, Lost Dead Planet Space doesn't count, that fucking awful terrible shit) and wow, going from 1 to 2 is just like this perfect example of how EA was going to shit.

Like you can tell from Dead Space 2, which is good, they were COMPLETELY FUCKING MISSING THE POINT, like there was ZERO chance Dead Lost Space Planet was going to succeed because it was the natural progression of the path to shit and mediocrity they were following.

>>192355
Yes, it's called MES or "Mass Effect Syndrome"

>>192357
I did enjoy the first bit of Dead Space Three. Jumping from Ship to Ship. Never have I dreaded a game so much then it tore me away from zipping about the space exploring those old hulks to trudging around in the damn snow. I mean that was fun to me utilizing a often underused mechanic that we'd not really gotten to see that much in the previous games. But hey fuck that its time to trudge around on the surface doing nothing special UNLESS I WAS IN CO-OP which I wasn't. Fucking hell locking off places in the game with that kinda gate.

Also the reasoning behind building hordes of Zombie generators after the second game showed it was a bad idea is bullshit.

Dead Space = Alien

Dead Space 2 = Aliens

Dead Space 3 = Alien Vs Predator

http://2014.vidyagaemawards.com/voting
The voting is on!

>>192371

Man, whoever put these nominees together has a real bug up his ass about Double Fine.

>>192374
Pfft. Of course they're going to be asspained after Schaefer turned out to have common decency.

>>192375
Elaborate, please.
I don't know much about that entire affair.

>>192376
He tweeted against Gatorgame.
Thats pretty much it.

The Spacebase thing actually IS super shitty on DF's part, and many have grown pretty disillusioned about their project management skills between that and two Kickstarters with rocky dev cycles.

That said if you think they come anywhere near Ubi you're nuts.

>>192378
That makes sense, considering that /v/ has distanced a lot from the gators and how that is now an 8chan problem.
Also, notice how there's no mentions of GG so far.

>>192380
What happened with that whole thing? Didn't it start as something positive and turn into something ugly or was it always ugly.

>>192382

It was always ugly.

>>192382
I don't wanna go too deep into it, but yeah it started off ugly and its grown uglier. Hell, I was on the side of the 'gate for a while until I took a step back and realized it was fucked.

The less we even mention The Big Baby Bickering of 2014, the better.
As I said in /baw/: No one wins, everybody loses.

But anyways, since the Nintendo thread is in autosage:

http://www.nintendo.com/eshop/offers

There are some pretty cool offers right now.
Grabbed Liberation Maiden and it's pretty funny. Maybe I'll get Attack of the Friday Monster as well.

>>192386
If its like Sonic Dash but with more, I'll take it.

Tomb Raider now being published by Microsoft, guess this goes further to the idea that this is looking to be their Uncharted.

>>192389
Ironic considering the history of influence for both series.

>>192390
And that the Uncharted Team was sacked from Naughty Dog a while back which might upset the next in the series, am looking forward to their Star Wars project I've been heard about since the 1313 died.

http://nintendoeverything.com/bayonetta-2-director-and-producer-working-on-new-project-series-future-teased/

Something Bayonetta-related is in store for 2015, along with a new project.

You ever see the release date of a game that doesn't feel that old, and then get kind of blown away by how much time has actually passed since that game's release date?

Cave Story is ten years old.

>>192394
Doesn't seem that mindblowing.
Rayman is gonna be 20 next year. Now that's depressing.

Whoops, didn't see you there thread, and my deletion password isn't working. Oh well, mailed Anonex.

So I recently got around to playing Skyrim since my friend has it on his account and ours are linked. I kind of like it but two big things jump out:
1. Holy fuck this game is busted. Like, worse than Morrowind, Oblivion, or either Fallout. I had bosses not spawn and dead enemies jam in geometry, restricting me from quest relevant loot.
2. I know that viking rpg isn't exactly a commonly treaded ground and it is better than Oblivion but the setting is just... with Morrowind it's so crazy you could swap swords, bows, and magic for sabers, blasters, and the Force and call it a Star Wars planet. Since it's not weird I can't be hooked much into reading most books or even talking to people. I didn't care about the main quest and did the mages for mechanical reasons, but the one quest I was hooked into, the civil war, is also apparently the most broken line in the game.

It's kind of cool but god I wish Bethesda would hook that much larger Oblivion/Skyrim audience in for a much weirder setting and story like Morrowind had with 6.

//youtube.com/watch?v=XFIngV3rMpo

http://www.video-game-ephemera.com/049.htm

Would I be better off getting Shovel Knight on PC or 3DS? They're both around the same price when they're on sale.

>>192449
Feels better on the 3DS IMO sounds and all. planning on playing through again when I get the NEW XL.

>>192449
Do you care about portability or mods more?

>>192457
Mods, I guess? What kinds are there?

>>192466
It basically does the same story except with a lot more weight and pathos. Great story about the effects a "parent" can have on a child through their actions instead of trying to be so high minded it loses its train of thought.

>Colin Moriarty, Nick Scarpino, Tim Gettys, and I (Greg Miller) quit our jobs at IGN.com, and it's all your fault.

>In September, you changed our lives. We launched a Patreon for Kinda Funny, and your response was beyond (BEYOND!) our wildest expectations. The support, the Tweets, the shares -- it all showed that we really had built the community of best friends we’re always talking about. And, once we knew that, all we wanted to do was make more content for you.

>Enter Kinda Funny Games. Now that we don’t work for IGN, we can talk about the stuff you’ve always wanted us to talk about on YouTube -- games.

http://www.patreon.com/kindafunnygames

Surprising move. Going independent seems to be the trend, with Jim Sterling being the previous example. I applaud it.

>>192478
>Jim Sterling being the previous example.
For entirely different yet much more respectable motives.

>>192478
Good for them.

Guess sort of fix the "game media problem" by having "us" pay them for it instead.

Thats why I helped kickstart a "progressiv" swedish gaming podcast.

Nah, it was for the T-shirt ,poster and I liked there Retrogaming podcast they did before.
Even if I only got one of them in the end...
And it did not jell with me, do to all the ranting about shitposting I never heard off and dont care about.

Also I have a hard time keeping up with the new games do to my HUGE back log(thanks steam and local buz dieing), so why waste time with something that would just spoil them mouth/years before I play them.

I would rather hear about how life blighted Pat this week instead.

>Archive.org has 2,300 MS-DOS games available to play in browser
Holy fuck! Childhood here I come!

I'm now in that lull where I just finished a grand 60 hour RPG and kinda want something to play that's a bit lighter, yet nothing really keeps my attention for long, so I feel I'm just shitting away my time.

>>192504
Oh shit, link please!

>>192529

https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos

There’s no easy-to-check list of what games they have (which is a boneheaded move if you ask me), but the Most Downloaded Items lists will give you a good idea of what truly good/popular games are available.

>>192530

Oh wait nevermind, there is a link that has a (better) listing:

https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_games/v2

>>192531
Well, now I've finally played Oregon Trail.

Hey, where do you guys get your videogame news?

>>192550
Here.

>>192550
Superbestfriendcast and Giant Bombcast. I don't need to be constantly on the pulse of the gaming industry. It's enough to get updated with the most important stuff once a week. Except for Vita news, because nobody cares about the poor thing and Matt always acts like a giant fucking baby the second Vita is mentioned. I go to /vitagen/ for that. That place is cancerous as fuck, but they do a good job of updating Vita-relevant news.

>>192550

Fightan gaem stuff? Eventhubs. Everything else? I know people are gonna kick me for it, but a mix of Kotaku and Polygon. I don’t keep up with the industry like I used to, so knowing the "broad strokes" news (which Kotaku and Polygon do well enough for my tastes) is all I need.

>>192550
I know everyone's gonna laugh at me for this, but neoGAF's pretty good as an information clearing house. I'm not a member, but I've been lurking there for the last few months (more than I used to, anyway). Like the peeps above, I don't really follow industry developments unless I'm personally interested in them (like the PS4 launch in China that's meant to happen in the next few days - "meant to" being the operative word right now).

>>192550
Twitter keeps me up-to-date.

>Around 18 months ago, during an informal chat with an extremely well-placed individual in the hardware manufacturing business, an interesting nugget of information dropped into the conversation - Nintendo was already accepting pitches from third parties on the hardware make-up of its successor for Wii U. Two names were mentioned: AMD and Imagination Technologies, creators of the PowerVR mobile graphics tech. With the lack of backing sources, that little aside never made it to print, but as Nintendo strives to bounce back from the Wii U sales disappointment, eyes inevitably turn towards future platforms.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-in-theory-nintendos-next-gen-hardware-and-the-strategy-behind-it

A surprising development, but one that's long overdue. This is exactly what Bethesda said Nintendo didn't do for the Wii U.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-nintendo-should-follow-example-set-by-sony-and-microsoft/1100-6413963/

>>192558
The fact that Nintendo is working on its next console isn't anything new or surprising as they've done it for ages. The idea that they're going to 3rd parties for advice is interesting though.

>>192562

Seriously, Nintendo is such an insular company that it’s shocking to hear of it asking other companies for help like that.

>>192563
They have mentioned that they're branching out with their properties. That and the recent blessing allowing fans to make what they like so long as they don't make money off it shows they're trying to branch out.

>>192563
I remember a rumour going around that chip makers were being tendered for some unspecified "console hardware". The tenderer being Nintendo seems obvious in retrospect. It feels like Nintendo is repeating the same moves Sega made after the ker-splat the Saturn made - it might not have turned out well for Sega, but it was the only move they could have made if they wanted to stay in the console business, and it honestly should have worked, it was only dumb stupid luck that they didn't.

The gap between the Saturn and the Dreamcast was just four years, so 2016 seems about the right time frame for this machine to show up. Importantly, Nintendo has two advantages that Sega didn't: the first is their lucrative handheld business that's already seen them through one dry spell, and the second is that there's no massive launch looming over the horizon waiting to steal their thunder - both Sony and Nintendo are settling into looooong development cycles, and it's likely they'll be wrapping up their current systems around the time Nintendo are wrapping up their NEXT system. The big danger I foresee is mobile gaming making the whole console market redundant, but that eventuality is still a hell of a lot of years out.

God, prey is so good, that shit holds up rock solid.

HOLY SHIT ORIGINAL X-BOX

You are a mess, literally 360 emulations is possible before you are, FUCK, I wish Otogi 1 & 2 were on literally ANYTHING ELSE

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/12/11/metroid-for-the-nintendo-3ds-was-in-development-and-was-cancelled/

We could have had a Next Level Metroid. Also, someone has a vested interest in depriving everyone of certain amiibo figures.

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/01/11/man-apparently-purchases-over-one-hundred-rosalina-luma-amiibos-so-fans-cant/

>>192588
Eh, I don't know about the Luigi's Mansion 2 guys' track records so I don't know if it would've been any good, just that it would've probably played better than Other M.

//youtube.com/watch?v=iBh9SJ2crLY

Big Red Button tried to sneak in some cuss words with Kuckles saying "pissed" (0:34) and Sonic getting dangerously close to saying "shit" (3:20).

No more review scores for Joystiq.

http://www.joystiq.com/2015/01/13/joystiq-isnt-scoring-reviews-anymore-and-heres-why/

I agree with the reasoning why, particularly the part about Metacritic refusing to adjust scores later on.

>>192591
That's great news. Glad to see more people realizing just how fucked up Metacritic and the numerical score system can be.

>>192591
Spectacular!
That's like, the one thing I appreciate about Kotaku.
Hope more sites eventually follow suit.

>>192591

Good. Metacritic is a fucking toxin to the industry. Anything that fucks with them even marginally is good.

>>192596
About. Fucking. Time. I'll have to look around and see if any sites are offering bonuses for pre-order/reservation. Good thing I just got a bonus at work, looks like I'll put a bit of it towards one...

//youtube.com/watch?v=swrIN5yIaOk
>Grimm Fandango remastered


So that's on what they spend the money of the kickstarter.

>>192599
>hurrrr
It's a Sony project, it was announced at E3.

I've been clamoring for digital downloadable versions of wii games for awhile now, so I'm pretty happy with the announcement. Particularly as I was interested in getting Galaxy 2 and Punch Out!!

Oh man, I'll finally be able to buy a special edition console. MM N3DS XL will be MINE. I wonder why they're not releasing the smaller version in America? Not a big deal to me, since I wanted the XL, but it seems odd since only the small model can do the faceplates, to my knowledge.

>Xenoblade Chronicles X reel
They made jumping an actually useful thing. It was so useless in the original.

I don't know what Xenoblade is about, but the trailers make it seem like it's about running around in impressive vistas.

>>192616
Xenoblade 1 was about disappointment. Still gonna give this one a shot though.

>>192616
You're not too far from the truth and fuck yes what an amazing time it was.

>>192616
Jesus man I wish they would just bump up the damn saturation on those locales. It looks better now than the original trailers made it out to be, but everything's still so drab and grey compared to the original which made amazing use of color. Feels bad when even Tumblr screenshots look more visually appealing than the raw footage because of the saturation filters they slap onto them.

And Transformers Universe is dead...

Well shit!

>>192653
Please tell me your playing on PS4, I need someone else to play with...
I got a dojo...

>>192654
Nah, on PC.

>>192655
Fuck...

Aw well, atlest I got that awesome Prime Rhino for when I feel like playing it again.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/16/7557639/hatred-esrb-ao-rating

A move that surprised no one.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/01/developer-publishers-didnt-want-a-female-lead-in-our-video-game/
>"Square Enix was the only publisher that didn't want us to change a single thing about the game," studio co-founder Jean-Maxime Moris said in the video. "We had other publishers telling us, 'make it a male lead character.' And Square Enix didn't even question that once."

>>192662
And on a related note Hotline Miami 2 was refused classification in Aussieland. To which Devolver said "fuck that, just pirate the game and enjoy"

>>192666
Crap why does this feel like the excuse that was being peddled as to why Remember Me wouldn't do well. "Because its a woman protag" not because it was a grab bag of half baked mechanics none really implemented fully.

>>192668
Uh, no? The Remember Me creator said they had a hard time finding a publisher because of the female protagonist. This is a reoccurring complaint with devs. Maybe they did say that is why it failed too, but that would be later and less important.

>>192669
I just don't know since we've got reports going back as far as the '80s when Sierra put out Perils of Rosella and people could have cared less if the protag was male or female as long as the game held up. I really want to know more about his statement, mainly those publishers that didn't want the project.

>>192668
>half baked mechanics none really implemented fully.
You started the sentence talking about Remember Me then ended it talking about almost every AAA title this decade.

>>192671
Thing is, games back then had a very different audience than they do now. They've expanded and practically become the Hollywood Blockbuster of this generation.
Games were much more niche back then.
Hell, I'd go as far as to say gamers were generally more/better educated people back then.

>>192672
That's kinda true, to be a gamer back in the '80s and '90s you had to be dedicated and savvy especially if you were a PC gamer. Any machine you could buy wouldn't play much anything being put out and you'd have to invest time and effort to bring it to a state where it could run those titles being put out.

>>192674
What does that have to do with anything?

>>192675
Higher education made those that were part of that gaming niche more open to experiences I guess.

Remember Me wanted to be Arkham Asylum so bad it could taste it, but lacked the polish and environmental design that makes Arkham work. It also made a really big mistake in that while the combat system wasn't bad as such (although it was never Arkham's equal), you spend so much of the game without real options so you have to just do the same combos over and over again. The first few chapters were exercises in pure tedium. It really soured a lot of players to the combat altogether, a feeling which lasted well after they had unlocked more combo options and the gameplay opened up somewhat.


So yeah, I doubt the female protagonist was the only reason it didn't do well in sales. However, I doubt it helped it, and I really can believe the developers when they say that publishers wanted them to change her to a more dudebro-palatable version.

Remember Me would have benefited from ditching combat entirely and pushing memory remixing, the selling point of the game should not be something you only do 4 times in the whole game.

>>192686
Yea and have it be not so cruel as brainwashing. Have it be more revealing the truth of things instead of clouding things further by creating a lie.

>>192689
NO, no way, lie more, more cruelty, more manipulation. I as the player should have the ability to make a guard gun down all of his co-workers because he thinks they murdered his family then snap him back to reality so he shoots himself. I want this tech to be awful and evil and broken regardless of who uses it, for the simple reason that is complete and utter control of a human being and no one should have that ever.

And also because that's way more fun as far as gameplay goes.

>>192690
Now that is an angle that people could have sunk their teeth into.

There's a new Shadowrun rpg being planned.

Shadowrun Hong Kong.

//youtube.com/watch?v=bdX8BJVa2wo

Even when Wii titles are on the VC and on cheap, someone finds a reason to complain.

>>192696
I was kinda with him up until the Wii games part.
Jeez, fuck that guy.

>>192696
Jesus Christ what an asshole.

>>192696
Man, what a chode.

Yo Dying Light is way cooler than I thought it'd be.

//youtube.com/watch?v=EE4is7nLjoI

>>192711
The writing is truly terrible, thank god the game has an option to turn it off.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/20/nintendo-discontinues-club-nintendo-to-make-way-for-a-new-membership-programme
>Club Nintendo will be shut down, replaced
>No information, points, or accounts will transfer to the new system (details TBA)
>Spend those coins to get free, shitty games or re-releases
>Nintendo survives primarily on first party games and loyalty from fans
>Hey fans, fuck you!
What the every-loving-fuck are you doing, Nintendo.

>>192729
Speculation is that Nintendo wants to wipe out the Club Nintendo accounts, so everything is NNID.

>>192730
Also aside from those initial years, Club Rewards have been kinda shit and the Regionalism of the things cause a bit of problems. Glad I tossed mine in for that T-Shirt now.

>>192730
But you can link your Club Nintendo account to your NNID, right? If not, why not just do that so people can maintain something? Why shut the whole thing down?

>>192733

Nintendo has always done that. Burn it down and move on.

>>192713
In what way?
Sure there are problems with moodwhiplash, pacing, set ups and pay offs and thinks that you care about Milla in the end.(I would have changed it to FOR MY FRIENDS, feels more epic and inclusive)
But I still like it more then all those AAA that tries to be so serious but fail.
Like say Tomb Raider.

So go ahead an tear the story a new one, I want to hear it!

>>192746
What the fuck are you talking about?
Some context please.

Sounds like you are talking about street fighter Ken's wife.

>>192749

Bringing back the champion of Hardcore games are we?

//youtube.com/watch?v=Yrerdnjz_Jo

>>192750
This game would be a million times better if you just couldn't hit each other during co-op.

//youtube.com/watch?v=He4xWOVu1dw

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/01/shadow-is-actually-an-android-in-sonic-boom-what/

Wut

Is this Sega Japan trying to explain the bad characterization of Shadow? Or, was this another dropped story element in the game?

>>192772
Does it matter?
I would be very surprised if Sega continued with this rebranding.

>>192774
Well, they DID sink 2 million dollars into it...

>>192776
And now they're stuck with a toxic asset.

>>192769
>>192772
Shadow is utterly terrible in every way anyway.

Huniepop is a hell of a thing

Anyone else playing Gat out of Hell?

>>192784
Have they fixed the character transfer yet?

http://www.destructoid.com/evolve-director-on-dlc-i-don-t-like-people-thinking-we-re-doing-underhanded-dirty-shit--284514.phtml#EZWWrxtTEAmrkwbH.16


>"We have the game set up in such a way that we can expand upon it if that is the desire," Robb told me. "Our plan is one we pushed for as consumers. Never split the community, no pay to win, all that kind of bullshit that are hallmarks of DLC plans specifically made to leech money out of people."
>hallmarks of DLC plans specifically made to leech money out of people.

>$15 A MONSTER
>$7 A HUNTER
>$100 DELUXE ULTRA EXTREME EDITION (DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL DLC)
>$30 SEASON PASS (DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL DLC)
>NOT MADE TO LEECH MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE

>"I don't quite understand the knee-jerk negative reaction to DLC...[When] I have a game I really love and I play it for a while and I want more, I want more. I'll pay for it. I don't mind."
I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY LOVE IT BECAUSE I'M NOT SHILLING OUT $150 FOR THE FULL PRODUCT. I SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR STUFF THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE



>"I think a lot of people probably feel like [DLC] is milking the community," Robb admitted. "That's fair because a lot of companies approach it that way."
YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, BEFORE THE GAME IS EVEN OUT

I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD
I'M TALKING $150
RIGHT OUT OF THE GOD DAMN GATE


FUCK

I'M UPSET

>>192787
>"I don't like people thinking we're doing underhanded, dirty shit"

Then take Bob Newhart's advice and stop it!

>>192787
>I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY LOVE IT BECAUSE I'M NOT SHILLING OUT $150 FOR THE FULL PRODUCT. I SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR STUFF THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE
Well there's your problem. You're thinking of the "Full Product" as "everything that the programmers have made related to this particular game." You think that you are entitled to their entire output because you bought the base product, which doesn't include all those things.

Why do you need every monster? Why do you need every hunter? Are you really going to play all of those bits of content? Or are you just bitching because you think you deserve those pieces of content whether you play them or not?

You are upset because you think you deserve everything related to this game for a lower price than it actually costs to buy those things. You have two choices here: either don't buy the things that you don't think are worth the price, or buy them. Bitching about it just gives the people who think that gamers are entitled babies more reason to believe it's true.

>>192789
Now that's the anti-consumer logic I love to see!

>>192790
Gamer logic: Expecting people to pay for the things you make is anti-consumer.

>>192791
Expecting them to pay for something you made twice.

Never ever fucking announce DLC before your game is even out. What the fuck? Of corse people are going to accuse you of shady shit like withholding content just to charge them later since that's pretty much exactly what you're doing.
Season passes are a cancer and when you have THIS MUCH DLC confirmed before the game is even out of corse people will feel cheated and you know what? They're right.

>>192795
Destiny has a decade of that shit planned which a good amount is likely former in game content.

>>192793
In the same sense that buying a booster pack for Magic the Gathering is paying for Magic twice.

But I mean what I'm basically getting at here is: cry more, Gamers. Try playing Warhammer or MTG or even D&D and come back and tell me how bad you have it having to pay $1.99 for completely optional content.

>>192800
Pfft. Cry more, tabletop gamers.
Try buying Spider-man or Batman or even Justice League and come back and tell me how bad you have it not having to pay $3.99 for only 24 pages in a 100-or-such page run.

fuck off faggot. Videogames aren't your shitty card games.

>>192789
>>192791
>>192800
Yes, cutting a game into pieces and selling them seperately at a markup is totally a business model we should encourage! Criticism of the industry is Entitlement(tm)! Every game should switch to the TCG model of selling content, disagreement makes you an Entitled(tm) baby! Criticism is evil and Entitled(tm)! Entitlement(tm)!

People who know nothing about videogames shouldn't post about videogames. Most videogames aren't TCGs. Most videogames shouldn't be priced like TCGs.

Why do you need every level in a platformer? Why do you need every character in a fighting game? Why do you need every weapon in an FPS? Why do you need every car in a racing game? Let's divide up every game into smaller parts so that the full set of options is guaranteed to surpass the current 'regular' price of a game! Of course, the price for the base game stays the same because we poor publishers are literally starving! You're stealing the bread out of our mouths you Entitled(tm) whiny crybabies! You Anti-Fans(tm) are killing our developers with your Hate Campaigns(tm)!

The micropayment-raised generation throws rocks at the critics as the publishers try to kill videogames.

>>192802
>Yes, cutting a game into pieces and selling them seperately at a markup is totally a business model we should encourage!
Unfortunately for your argument, that's not what's happening. They are delivering you a full game that can be played from beginning to end, and you are crying because you can't use a specific character to do it, or can't explore a bonus dungeon. They haven't split the game into pieces, they have added additional pieces you can play for a higher price. Now obviously you're going to argue that it still counts as splitting the game into pieces because they made the bonus content at the same time as the actual content, and saying that it's all a single product justifies your outrage.

But it is absolute nonsense that only makes sense to bratty video game fans--no one dealing with real world products would ever say that making an action figure and the car that goes with it at the same time means you're entitled to the car when you buy the action figure.

>>192804
Funny how the "faggot" is the one who's *not* participating in your little circlejerk.

>>192803
I already addressed your post:

>People who know nothing about videogames shouldn't post about videogames.

Pay attention to how this industry works. Scummy business practices are well-known and documented. Stop posting uninformed garbage.

>no one dealing with real world products

No one dealing with "real world products" gets called a moron for disliking a product by the press covering it either.

>>192791
I'm perfectly willing to pay for a title, but I expect that title to have all the pieces when I buy it, and if they're willing to add a little something on the side later, I should hope it's reasonably priced. Especially for a game like this.

>>192806
>No one dealing with "real world products" gets called a moron for disliking a product by the press covering it either.

That isn't really true. There's plenty of that in music and movies too.

>>192806
>No one dealing with "real world products" gets called a moron for disliking a product by the press covering it either.
Not sure how that's relevant, but if one were more self-aware, one might have to ask if the reason gamers get called morons for their reactions more often than any other fangroup might be because gamer culture encourages and celebrates moronic behavior.

Bought Ground Zeroes on PS3 back when it was on holiday sale for $6 and man oh man do I dislike the new control scheme. MGS3 did it better and if I bought it for $40? Super upset for how short it is.

I'm torn on my opinion about it. On one hand I don't really think that the gameplay was all that great as least in my past experiences with other Metal Gear titles. On the other, it's the first game in a very very long time to invoke an emotion within me and actually get me thinking... buuuuut that was all from a cutscene.

>>192803

Where exactly is the division between the 'base game' development and the 'bonus content' development when they're both being done by the same fucking team, at the same fucking time? How the hell is this not carving off content arbitrarily in order to make more money?

Stop making dumb comparisons to physical products with non-analogous business models. Video games are not action figure, and video games that arent Hearthstone are not TCGs. A better comparison would be a movie with eight different releases, each of which having different scenes in them, and you had to buy all right to see the entire movie. If you think that shit would fly, you're crazy.

>>192811
>Bullying happens for good reasons!

You do have a point hidden under your smug bullshit attitude but it's not the one you were thinking of earlier. The moronic behavior common among gamers is to continue supporting the companies that openly treat them with contempt (and not, as you believe, "Entitlement(tm)").

>>192814
Ah, yes, you're being "bullied." I was wondering when the Nerd Victimhood Complex would rear its ugly head and you didn't disappoint.

>>192815
>I don't understand analogies so let me continue to ignore arguments

Why would I expect anything else?

"[negative event] happens to [group] therefore it should be assumed that [group] deserved it" is not sound logic. There, is that neutral enough for you?

>>192812
GZ got really grim and gritty compared to other Metal Gears. Not to mention all those hate boners for the US, but it makes sense given the bazaar backstory the series has now

>>192816
More like "[negative event] consistently happens to [group] over and over again, from multiple unrelated groups, and pretty much any time someone unaffiliated with [group] becomes aware of them, they have the same reaction."

Like the logic you're using here is "The fact that everyone thinks the Ku Klux Klan is racist is no reason for the Ku Klux Klan to take a look at its own behavior and ask 'why do people keep thinking we're racist?'" Sometimes if everyone has the same bad reaction to you, you have to start asking if maybe you're the problem.

>>192818
Now you're moving the goalposts. This isn't about politics, it's about "Entitlement(tm)" and similar responses to criticism. The people who yell "gamers are Entitled(tm) babies" are mostly industry spokespeople and journalists who have something to gain from siding with companies. They are not "multiple unrelated groups".

>any time someone unaffiliated with [group] becomes aware of them, they have the same reaction

Except that no one else cares about gamers complaining about the industry's business practices. Don't conflate this with the political issues.

>thinly-veiled accusation of racism

I avoided political analogies because they would be terribly out-of-scale in this context, but of course you had to go there. Just for fun, try replacing some of the words in your last statement with different politically-charged ones. You should notice that your logic still isn't sound. (Don't actually do this in your reply, you're already trying your hardest to avoid actual discussion.)

>>192819
>The people who yell "gamers are Entitled(tm) babies" are mostly industry spokespeople and journalists who have something to gain from siding with companies. They are not "multiple unrelated groups".
I have seen the same accusations made by non-gaming critics such as film critics, and from non-gaming news organizations and bloggers any time a piece of gaming news enters mainstream news, for example in reaction to the Mass Effect 3 rigmarole and Gamer Gate.

>>192820
>any time a piece of gaming news enters mainstream news

Only the worst cases enter mainstream news because mainstream news don't care about gaming. Mainstream news don't care when companies call gamers thieves for taking advantage of the free market, openly lie to their customers, blame the customers for anti-customer features or failures on the company's part or generally try to deflect criticism by outright mocking or insulting their audience. Stop selectively ignoring the facts. Inform yourself.

>Mass Effect 3

That one actually did go overboard.
Of course, people who know that mainstream news don't cover all of gaming also know that there is a core of truth to the ME3 criticism instead of using it as a strawman to discard any and all negative reaction (i.e. what you are doing).
It's also telling when people commenting on the ME3 shitstorm opened with something along the lines of "I didn't play the game" before attacking the people who did and disliked it, as if that already implies wanting to "kill videogames as an artform".

>Gamer Gate

Politics, not criticism of industry practices. Not relevant to this discussion (which started with >>192789).

After beating Super Meat Boy, fully, I think I've decided that I don't like intentionally hard games. I feel like Mario is the only series that has ever properly been "Nintendo hard" without sacrificing fun, because it feels more naturally hard. The levels just happens to be difficult, it's not like the designers said "And this part will surely kill the player and make him start over!"

If I've died 30 times in the same level, something is wrong with the game itself, not me. Because at that point, I'm not having fun anymore, I'm playing just to beat it and get it off my chest. I don't feel satisfaction or accomplishment when I finally beat it, I feel exhausted. And then I groan when I realize how many more I have to go which are probably just as hard, if not harder.

Call me a casual if you want, and I've never played DMC or Souls, but that's just me.

>>192822
"Nintendo Hard" usually refers to unfair or borderline-unfair difficulty though. The only Mario game that actually qualifies for that is Lost Levels.

>>192822

If you die thirty times in a row in any area of the Souls games, you should probably find a different area and come back to it later.

But that's the Souls games. Games like Super Meat Boy and Hotline Miami are based on starting over over and over again, and that's why they make respawning and retrying almost completely painless.

Yeah. Focusing on repetition and learning as a game mechanic isn't really a flaw, just a different kind of game.

A REAL example of "Nintendo Hard" is F-Zero GX's story mode.

//youtube.com/watch?v=dZLwM3nyY5g

>>192825
The problem with Super Meat Boy though is that even if I learn, and have gone through the level a hundred times, it's still extremely difficult to get through it. Tiresome. If I have nothing left to learn from repeated deaths, the only thing left to gain is frustration. Which is perfectly fine until it happens 50 times in a row. Because with this game, you have to be pitch-perfect with your jumps, momentum, timing, everything. Most other games give you options on how to pass obstacles, but here there's only one way and absolutely no room for human error.

>>192825
Yeah, at that point it's basically a dolled up Dragon's Lair and their ilk. Which is fine if you like that kinda stuff, but a lot of people aren't.