/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

continuing question:
>>245020

I started watching season 2 of Frankenhole and the lack of continuity is crazy. Sure, the creator requested episodes be aired out of order to emphasise the meaningless of time in the show, but Mrs. Frankenstein talks about mangling Victor Frankenstein's testicles when he already shot them off with a gun the last season.

Either blatant ignorance or just not giving a fuck.

>>245041
Good luck staring at a tiny screen in the dark.

>>245041
I know that feeling.

>>245042
Actually not an issue, the screen size and brightness are enough for me

>>245047

>3

http://screenrant.com/guillermo-del-toro-pinocchio-writer/
I was wondering if McHale was going to work on anything else soon.

>>245057

This is not a reboot. This is a legit Season Five helmed by the show's original creator. If this were a reboot of the show, or if Genndy were not in charge, there would not be as much excitement around the show's return as there is right now.

The original "Samurai Jack" was a monumental achievement in Western animation, if only for the fact that a show like "Jack" had never taken the risks it took with both style and content. The show stuck out entirely because it dared to be different from every action cartoon before it (and arguably every action cartoon since). And now we may finally get to see it receive the conclusion it has deserved for more than a decade. If Genndy fails to deliver a quality season, so be it; at least he got the chance to deliver at all, and for that, I will celebrate the return of "Samurai Jack".

>>245116
>Goat mom is flat.

That's horrible.

//youtube.com/watch?v=QKD6Pp0yqx0

3.11, 11pm — Jack's Back, bitches.

>>245116
Wait, what, they used the Chinese ripoff family in an actual episode? When did this came out???

>>245121
Episode airs on TV Monday, but it's on the Cartoon Network website now.

>>245137

The most recent "Guilty Gear" game employed somewhat similar techniques using 3D models and cel-shading to achieve its look.

>>245139
SICK
And check out all that blood.

>>245139

I am hype. I am so fucking hype.

I am now curious about that female villain, Aku wasn't really too keen on having "right hands" so to speak. I guess things not only changed for Jack over the years.

Also, did I go mad or she sounded a lot like Azula? Was that Grey DeLisle?

Something interesting is that in the trailer Jack is shown wielding a lot of different weapons, but NOT his katana, I wonder if that's going to be a plot point.

>>245142

Yes a recording session showed both her and Tara Strong in attendance.


>>245143
Probably something res loved in the first episode. Jack shakes himself out of his timeless funk and he gets back to work.

>>245137
>pic relate
>paperman fanart
It's like SFW R34; I never thought it would exist, but I am in no way surprised.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=SEvcmnN3wkQ
Dragon drama.
I wonder if they'd do a big finale for the pre HTTYD 2 era so we can timeskip to post HTTYD 2.
Build that hype for HTTYD 3 and what not.

>>245160
Be nice since Traveling is part of the show. Though I wonder if they are having some problem with figuring out HTTYD 3 given how the books went.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3423971/violent-castlevania-tv-series-headed-netflix-year/

Well, then. About time one of these fucking "Castlevania" adaptations finally got off the ground somewhere.

>>245179
CN is so shitty, with that terrible Powerpuff Girls revival and that retarded chibi Teen Titans show which they seem to air constantly, had to sit through episodes of it (and crossovers between the two) when people were streaming the new SU releases.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/09/guillermo-del-toro-trollhunters-season-2/
Seems he has enough Yelchin for one more 13 episode season.
And it also sounds like this ia 52 episode story.

>>245179
Found and faved.

>>245180
They also have Mighty Magiswords, and in my opinion it is good.

>>245184
Haven't seen it yet, but I'm hoping Rugrats storyboard jam and Eddie Puss get a mention. Maybe even Adult Party Cartoon.

>>245184
>Number 1
So, the cartoon thought to be the first pornographic cartoon ever, extensively featured animal sex and even bestiality.
(http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdrgzr_eveready-harton-in-buried-treasure_fun)

Furry porn was inevitable, it's official.

>mffw beach scene
help ive lost my sides and i cant get up

>>245241
It's gonna be so cool.

27 years ago, Bill Waterson told it like it is:
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/HOBBES/info/speech2.html

..... and even predicted the future.

>>245255
D:
>>244893

I can't be the only one who thinks that CN sucks at promoting shows.

>>245276

What would ever make you think that?

>>245277
(is this sarcastic or honest, I can't really tell right now)

So, this asian company that does Rimba Racer has a reel on their Vimeo channel. Why show it to you?

To give an example of how to make a trailer of all your best moments, even when you're a very young company with little to show:
https://vimeo.com/144065102

>>245296

How much longer do they have anyway?

>>245297
That's a good question, I don't know if there's one central place where you can find out what kind of episode orders the shows have or if you have wait for the showrunner to mention it in an interview like King Julien - 78 and Trollhunters - 52

>>245298
Could have sworn it was mentioned by the King Julien showrunner that Netflix is looking to get each show at around 70 odd episodes.

Least on their current scheduled shows. But its a question of where and how far can you go with things like HTTYD when it gets really near that second movie. Which is different from things like Puss in Boots which is really undefined where it takes place before or Peabody and Sherman which takes place afterward the movie.

//youtube.com/watch?v=D56T-r3Dz28

Nickelodeon needs to learn how to let something die.

>>245311
all networks need to learn this. That and shows aren't usually surefire hits from Episode one.

Butch alone has pitched four shows last few years because he knows they need new blood.

>>245313

>all networks need to learn this.

Except for Cartoon Network and [adult swim]. CN not only lets shows die, it fucking does a tax write-off for them and leaves them to rot in some archive somewhere. And [as] kills some shows so dead that it only ever airs said shows again in the 4am "holy shit I am fucking stoned" timeslot (e.g., "Black Dynamite").

>>245314
I don't know if [as] "kills" shows as much as it has a fairly small budget and while it's willing to experiment, prefers to try new experiments rather than trying to make a lackluster (in terms of success) experiment do better.

Personally I don't have any problem with single season shows. It's pretty much the norm in anime, and I think a lot of anime is better for it.

>>245329
That's the Catch-22 of it all. Yea more pieces like Over the Garden Wall would be Epic. Problem is those are the rarity as Networks want something they can turn into a series that will have a good number of episodes they can run each year.

If I can get into a position to talk an executive/s into a position of a budget allotment for a One Shot show startup production lets say have one start in the spring and the other in the fall and to air the preceding period (Fall show will begin airing in the Spring and the Spring Production will start up and air in the latter fall) I'll go to bat for that being a good idea.

Because it is.

>>245343

>Networks want something they can turn into a series that will have a good number of episodes they can run each year

Or, in the case of Cartoon Network, a good number of episodes they can run every day. (*coughteentitansgocough*)

>>245345
>Disney has finally gone full-on queer
Disney has been gay for quite a while.

>>245346
Their cartoons have been shy about it till very recently. Gravity Falls infamously had S&P nix an elderly lesbian couple falling for each other under the influence of the God of Love. I think they got away with inclusion in the finale though, so I don't think this is the FIRST example of on-screen gaiety on their cartoons.

But does Disney have the minerals to canonize Elsanna?

>>245348

There is snow chance in Hell of that happening.

>>245349
Though in this case it's probably less a case of "not having the minerals" and more a case of "The people who are in charge probably find the ship disgusting because it's incestuous, and if you don't have that particular kink it's generally pretty off putting."

>>245351

I seriously doubt Disney would want to expose children to the idea of incest. What the people in charge think of the incest kink matters far less in that regard.

>>245352
Technically they *have* depicted it on screen before. Hercules had Zeus and Hera married, after all.

They just never brought attention to the fact that canonically, Zeus and Hera were siblings.

>>245353
Hercules took so many liberties with Greek mythology that you really can't assume that.

>>245360
And at the same time was the best Superman film since '78

>>245367
Funnily enough, James Woods is now voicing Lex Luthor.

>>245370

Nice.

Put up my thing for the Nick Writing fellowship this year. Encourage all to throw in of course since that's the kinda person I am. They've ditched their mail in system and gone with Website based Submissions so you've got a clearer idea of what needs to be filled out your work and that your work has been accepted.

>>245445
>>245446

WHAT THE FUCK. I DEMAND TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS. (Also: Fuck yeah to keeping the original 4:3 aspect ratio.)

>>245447
The place I got it from told me it's from Amazon (digital download).

>>245448

Where did you get it from, then? :O

>>245450

>Stone totally started masturbating.

Why must you turn this thread into a house of lies?

>>245449
It is a secret place. You can get it from Amazon. I will buy it as well, when I get some more extra cash.

>>245454
>Dick in bloom

>>245452

?????

>>245460
That's the wrong source. What you got are the iTunes releases, which are uneven, some upscales, and not all of them good. The Amazon releases are the only ones you should care about.

>>245462
Good joj.

>>245463

I would not have to worry about this sort of mix-up if SOMEONE could have pointed me to the Amazon rips… ?

>>245467

I am permabroke until I say otherwise, yo.

>>245469

If you are only going to tease me, fuck it, I will find it on my own somehow.

>>245482
I will send you an invite to a private fucking tracker, swear to God. All I need is a promise that you will start actively improving your life.

>>245490

I would assume you are not, but I still hold one of the old rules of TGFB to heart: “Do not cocktease the board” — in other words, do not tease people with sharing something, then refuse to do so (especially if some arbitrary condition is required for sharing). That said, at least one of my email addresses is not terribly hard to find, though I have included it with this post because you asked.

>>245491
Done.

>>245491
Huh, I didn't realise +4 doesn't highlight email addresses.

>>245588
Animation fans?

>>245592
Wolfaboos.

>>245667

>Craig of the Creek

Sounds fun.

https://deadline.com/2017/03/netflix-animated-film-america-channing-tatum-voicing-george-washington-1202056188/

Huh.

HOLY FUCK, THE NEW “RICK AND MORTY” EPISODE

HOLY FUCK, [as]
HOLY FUCK, RICK

(Rick’s out, so you can put your dicks back in.)

>>245688
Live Action Mulan tie-in???

>>245696

Well the film is on the table.

>>245701
A kid dies and he stays dead instead of miraculously springing to life with no explanation at the last second.

>>245701

Not a reboot, but a made-for-TV movie. And yes, all the major voice actors are returning.

>>245704
"Reboot" and "remastered" are only 2 words that people keep misusing over and over. Because why learn meanings when you can just mindlessly repeat what the dude next to you just said?

Also, if Samurai Jack ends SUPER GRACEFULLY, and Hey Arnold Jungle Movie is a success, and this Invader Zin finale is not bad................. maybe, just maybe Storm Hawks season 3??

>>245705
I agree on the whole reboot debacle, but do remember that words can have more than one meaning. "Only two words that people keep misusing" is a gross overstatement, but thats expected coming from you. I'm only using "reboot" as a short hand for "restart to the series after being dead for so long that not all the same elements are the same, to the point the series is now taking a new direction or leaving off where it left off". Isn't "reboot" a shorter way of expressing that? I always thought of the term reboot like it is in computers where it could mean "starting that which had been shut down".

>>245707

“Reboot” usually refers to a new work made that features some characters, settings, and plot points from the original work or series (e.g., “The Amazing Spider-Man”) but otherwise has no connection to the original work or series (the Raimi-directed “Spider-Man” trilogy). Reboots are generally done to “modernise” a franchise or take it in a new direction after years of dormancy (e.g., the “Batman” film franchise going all Nolan after the horrendous “Batman & Robin” put that franchise on ice).

I use the term “rebake” — a portmanteau of “reboot” and “remake” — in reference to works that are both a reboot and a remake of a prior work or series. Rebake examples include the recent “Ghostbusters” and “RoboCop” films, in that those films are meant to both reboot a dormant franchise and remake the first film of their respective franchises.

The new season of “Samurai Jack” and the “Invader Zim” movie are revivals. They are direct continuations of the original shows made years after those shows ended. They did not restart or remake anything. They do not qualify as a reboot, remake, or rebake.

>>245707
Guess I need to keep you in mind before making each post, less you misunderstand something.

Only 2 words = just 2 of the many words.


And reboot means reboot of continuity. None of the past effects happened, all events erased, starting form a clean slate. But of course everyone keeps using "reboot" when talking sequels anyway.

It seems shallow, but adding serialized elements just seems to universally make a show better to me.

>>245749

This is because serialized storytelling offers a chance for actual character growth and progression that “status quo is God” shows cannot. Season Five of “Samurai Jack” is great partially because it eschews the whole “robot of the week”/self-contained storylines from the first four seasons in favor of a progressing storyline that will end in the series finalé.

http://screenrant.com/carmen-sandiego-tv-show-netflix-gina-rodriguez/

neat going to be a Carmen focused version of the show.

>>245785
You know it suddenly occurs to me that I can't think of any other adaptation that's focused on Carmen. Which is kind of crazy. We know far more about lots of incidental characters (mostly ones that exist only in that adaptation) than we know about Carmen herself. All we really know about Carmen is that she is an impossibly good thief and that she knows how to rock a red outfit and cool hat.

>>245784
Maybe he eats those all the time and built up a tolerance.

>>245786
Well according to all the sources she's a former A.C.M.E. Detective that found the greater challenge was outsmarting her peers. Possibly former spy before that and her full name is Carmen Isabela Sandiego.

The show apparently did give her a backstory.

>According to this canon, Carmen Sandiego was an orphan raised at the Golden Gate Girls' School in San Francisco. The Chief gave her a home at the ACME Detective Agency and, by age seventeen, she solved more cases than any other ACME agent. However, she then disappeared and turned to a life of crime. Her partner when she was at ACME was a Japanese man named Suhara, who left ACME after she did and appears to now be retired. Unlike in most of the rest of the series, the reason for Carmen leaving ACME is not specifically stated, although it is speculated by Suhara

So it'll be interesting to see where the show picks up this time and what they decide is her history.

>>245799

How long was that film in development?

>>245801
I don't know. All I know is the final release was delayed because the producers did not like it enough or something.

Carmen now has a player.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04/18/stranger-things-star-joins-netflixs-new-carmen-sandiego-animated-series

We gonna get on that meta level since back in the older cartoon she did straight up banter with them.

Assume for a moment that Maggie Simpson did not shoot Mr. Burns. If she did not do it, who did? Well, here are three theories:

//youtube.com/watch?v=pIeQ3Ym8f00
//youtube.com/watch?v=za9IVKmbb-E
//youtube.com/watch?v=mIQzAJLKmUA

Wow, AT pulled some wild stuff Skyhooks. I thought PB have gone mad with power before, but not this kind of mad or with this kind of power.

>>245933
The quality of everything--animation, character designs, models, environments, writing, pacing--goes up considerably with each season. For me it went from "watchable" in Season 1 to one of my favorite shows by midway through Season 3. I'm champing at the bit for Season 5.

As this crazy Spirit cartoon comes closer, I do wonder if it will implement either of the narrative devices for Spirit as seen in the movie; songs with lyrics that describe how Spirit is feeling at that moment, or just straight up internal monologue from Spirit.
//youtube.com/watch?v=_Wcpp0IbkLY

It turns out that J.G. Quintel's next show after Regular Show is airing on TBS, but produced by Cartoon Network Studios. Between this and Samurai Jack, Turner seems open to the idea of the studio making content for other channels they own.

>>246195

I don’t know what “x-plain” is, but I can explain why that is a thing: nostalgia.

>>246196
Original was a self-contained film. Nothing left to tell in that story.

>>246200
The creators of this agree, that's why it's a prequel.

Looks like Swat Kats Revolution project is NOT dead:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1820796125/swat-kats-revolution/posts/1850589

Have they tried Netflix? They are always up for animation stuff.

>>246227
I'm sure they will, but maybe what they don't have is an animation studio to make the show.
That would be step one.

>>246229
Exactly. According to the update, they found an "interested" party to finance, but that is as far as they got.

>>246307
TWIN OF MURDER

>>246362
So, The Flintstones?

So, the Dragon's Lair pitch trailer project is almost over, and the IGG page is closing down in 2 weeks.

The 6 minutes will be released soon.

>>246418
Considering one of the characters has two dads, that's not overly surprising.

>>246421
Going from older adults to teenage characters is a step. While comics have been playing that game for decades as well as live action teen dramas now doing it in a media that is squarely aimed at younger children is a step.

On that I think it'll be interesting to see what happens if it gets directly addressed.

Shame Nick News is over. Could have been part of a nice follow up to their earlier piece a few years back.

>>246423
Cartoon Network's been doing it on multiple shows besides Steven Universe so I think that taboo is finally coming down.

https://twitter.com/WarnerArchive/status/876946732222783488

YES YES YES

>>246489
For the most part they are pretty damn solid.

>>246494
>Bruce crossdresses and seduces him.
6/10, hyped

Not a bad show. Shame only 4 episodes.

>>246587
Luckily, season two is already greenlit and will be 8 episodes, which is great, because I already want more.

The show fluctuates wildly between faithful and "Oh hello Warren Ellis, you sure are just talking to me."

>>246594
I like it when Warren Ellis talks to me though.

>>246592
>Luckily, season two is already greenlit and will be 8 episodes, which is great, because I already want more.
Netflix have frequently been disingenuous about calling every batch of episodes a "season", but this was just crazy.

>>246594
>>246595
My issue was less deviation from the source material as how much focus is on the painfully cliche corrupt medieval church that is wrong about everything.

Also, Armitage's voice work can be hard to parse. He has like four lines an episode where I have no idea what he's saying until I replay with captions.

Still decent overall.

Is it possible to get CN shows from the 2000s in better than 512x384 (without up-scaling, of course) or was that the resolution they broadcasted in?

>>246598
>384
The US standard has always been 480p/480i.

>>246599
I just assumed 512x384 (4:3) was a thing since I downloaded two series (one from torrent and one recently from Anon) that both came in that resolution.

I also tried searching desuarchive for any download links and all that came up was a dead link from 2012.

>>246598

Unless you can find them released on DVD or digital video, I doubt it.

>>246585
Good if you can get past the fedora tipping. I'm an atheist and it was a bit much for me.

>>246602
Which is kind of crazy when holy water actually works in universe.

>>246602
Is it tipping towards god or simply the establishment of the church?

And is it the hero or the villain who is tipping?

>>246604
The church is portrayed as entirely fucking evil and very stupid, to the point of causing sympathy with "Make a fence out of intestines" Dracula.

Actual consecrations and holy aligned people are portrayed as divinely empowered and God is actively portrayed as real but largly absent besides the power he invests, but wanting fuck all to do with the church or Dracula.

Dracula because he forsook God and the church because they carry out atrocities in his name.

>>246605
I don't see what the problem here is. Sounds like what I would expect from black vs black morality horror stuff. Also, keep in mind that to the Japanese that Christianity is just another mythology to them. Like how Wizards of the coast used ancient Egypt for their most recent setting.

>>246606
The writer of this animated series is Warren Ellis.

Though you are right that at different times throughout the games timeline the church has been both an ally or antagonistic to the Belmont family line.

>>246585
I felt that the show's pacing could use some tightening. There's a hefty amount of extraneous dialogue and scenes of people just talking to each other. There were some cracking one liners in there that I didn't feel had the impact they should have done because they didn't have space to breathe, which is kinda crazy considering they had 100 minutes to work with. Also, was it just my telly or was much of the dialogue nigh-inaudible for anyone else?

It is absolutely beautiful, though. You can definitely feel the influence of Vampire Hunter D and other horror anime that the makers must have grown up watching.

>>246610
Episode one and four are incredible, 2 and 3 felt like dead weight.

>>246607
In CV3 the Church were definitely the good guys. Sypha's original backstory was she became a demon hunter working for the Church who took her and protected her after her family was killed by superstitious townfolk. That part is accurate. But here they go out of their way to show that Sypha and the Speakers are completely unaffiliated with Christianity with the line where Sypha's granddad mentions "those Christian priests".

Being an atheist I don't really care about them showing Christians or Catholics being bad guys (though they really should be Eastern Orthodox, and the Catholic Church was actually pro-science a lot of the time), and besides Ellis was more restrained in his fedora tipping than usual by making it clear it was corrupt individuals even God hates, not Christianity or the Church itself. But it made for a bad writing decision because it felt like Ellis was preaching to the audience at the expense of good pacing.

>>246611
Parts of them were good. Particularly the bar scene and the fight against the Cyclops. They should've combined those into one episode with some connective tissue and either cut down or cut out the rest of the stuff about the evil priests and the persecution of the Speakers. I get some buildup was needed for Trevor's arc of going from not giving a shit to standing up for the people but that could've been accomplished without the evil priests subplot.

>>246598
Depends on the production company sometimes and the media it was recorded onto.

>>246611
>>246613
They should've used the Speakers/Bishop subplot to introduce Grant instead. I saw an article Ellis wrote from ten years ago where he said he cut Grant out of the beginning part because he took time away from introducing the other three, but since a lot of it turned out to be filler spending it on Grant would've probably been better after all.

Binged the whole season last night. The pacing was a drag in the middle two episodes and the last half of the last episode. The writing could use a little tuning (the “family [x]” stuff did not need that much exposition). The animation was, at worst, mediocre. I liked the voice acting and non-exposition dialogue (Sypha was a delight in both regards) as well as the character designs in general. The “evil Church” stuff was heavy-handed, but I doubt that will be too much of an issue in Season 2. And HOLY FUCKING SHIT DRACULA BECAME THE FUCKING KING OF BADASS VAMPIRES AGAIN.

I did like how they actually worked a bunch of gameplay elements into the story. Like talking to NPCs for information, and Trevor's subweapon animations acting like they do in the games.

>>246628
Too bad the threw the holy water out of a bucket instead of a perfume bottle though.

>>246652

In fairness, a bucket would hardly be the best symbol for “holy water” when playing a videogame. A bottle filled with water and decorated with a cross, on the other hand…

>>246680
What? They are still making Turok comics?

And they blackwashed 'em?