>>243042 I vaguely remember hearing that the Bryke is going to work on Voltron and that post mostly confirms it. >the former Korra crew and animators I'm curious about what animators got invited for this and which of the Korra animation studios they are going with.
>>243054 >I vaguely remember hearing that the Bryke is going to work on Voltron and that post mostly confirms it. No, they aren't, they're just excited because people they know are. Both of them are working are things outside animation: one's writing a novel, the other a comic.
>>243054 I made a post over in /a/ some months back about Voltron's particulars: >>119360 The showrunners are Lauren Montgomery and Joaquim dos Santos - they've largely got the Korra gang back together for this show, sans Bryke. I'm glad they got this gig, these people are way too talented to be out of work.
Voltron on June 10, King Julien on June 17, and Dragons on June 24 They should have had something lined up for the 3rd to have an entire month of Dreamworks. I'd nominate puss in boots because I'm interested in seeing where they're going after that cliffhanger.
>Voltron Legendary Defender is "Highly Serialized," Say Producers
I'm ready to see a show that builds upon each episode. And doesn't have a clipshow mixed in there.
>IGN: What do you think it is, beyond the serialization -- tonally, maybe -- that makes your take on the mythology stand out from previous iterations?
>Montgomery: I think we've tried to make the stakes feel a lot more real. I think the original Voltron was kind of a product of its time, and there was a fear of putting anything too real or intense in a children's show. Everything was kind of diluted and very easy and clean and safe, and we just want to, not necessarily make something super crazy or traumatizing for kids, but definitely bring in some of the real drama and stakes back into the story so that these characters do make decisions that have consequences, that will ultimately last throughout the show.
>Dos Santos: And, you know, I think there's something to be said for a bad guy that is just purely evil, but I always appreciate when there's a level of complexity to the villain. So if you look at some of the more popular villains out there, somebody like Darth Vader or Magneto, you know, there's this aspect of their character that you kind of relate to, and you understand why they might have made those decisions. I think we've tried to bring that into this show as well. As the series progresses and you get more filled in on the backstory, you'll kind of see two points of view. You won't necessarily agree with the decision to go evil, but there might be some relatable aspects there. Whereas in the previous version, Zarkon and the bad guys, they were just bad guys.
Lets see what happens when executives and S&P aren't looking over their shoulders.
Shiro likely to heel turn. I blame that moe Drow Witch
The first twenty minutes or so suffer pretty heavily from gotta-get-the-party-together-as-soon-as-possible, which results in a lot of characters doing things for unclear reasons. It gets better after that.
>>243139 Well, it is only the first 13 episodes. Even though they're called seasons by Netflix, I think it's just generally considered by all the showrunners that the combined 26 episodes of two seasons is equal to a season.
>>243120 Having just marathoned it, it's not really all that dark nor are the villains very complex (yet). Still enjoyed it though. >>243139 On the contrary, I'm convinced it won't happen. They've changed the show up enough in other ways.
>>243146 >On the contrary, I'm convinced it won't happen. They've changed the show up enough in other ways. I hope it doesn't, because I like the guy, but that was kind of the point of the original Shirogane.
Hm, the Home cartoon already has a release day for next month. While there's still nothing on Del Toro's Trollhunters. Maybe they're saving that for the winter so it doesn't have to compete with Voltron.
>>243178 That is a dark rabbit hole. I'm curious if that whole wage-fixing debacle is what is also happening over in Japan or if the massive number of studios, artists and currently airing shows make the Japanese animation job market a completely different beast.
Excuse for the Badasarian story is there a non union shop (and assholes)
But this case its just they are assholes that got caught I believe during the Sony email leak which exposed the collusion (which as noted those being abused cannot talk about lest they get blackballed)
Oh, speak of the devil and he brings news. http://deadline.com/2016/06/trollhunters-anton-yelchin-kelsey-grammer-ron-perlman-cast-guillermo-del-toro-netflix-animated-series-1201773063/ It is looking for a December release. I wonder when we get to see a trailer.
>>243199 The fun part about that is when you can clearly see what did make it through for each example they give of something that didn't. Like the part where they talk about Julien inventing a food that looks like shit that got rejected for looking too much like literal shit; that joke still ends up in there, it's just a regular chocolate bar instead.
Found the Star Trek cartoon on Netflix. Animation isn't that good. But the stories are pretty damn up to par. Wasn't the story that all the scripts for the cartoon were unused they didn't use for the show when it was cancelled.
>>243257 Edgecore Shadow with long monologs will always be funniest, but a Shadow who takes his beach bumming seriously would be funny too. "I am the ultimate beach enthusiast!" Shadow would scream at random while building his sand castle.
>>243287 Still a tall order. Puss in Boots felt like it got a lot better in the second season with the addition of a little bit of serialization, so it'll be interesting to see how they go about resolving the cliffhanger the previous season built to and what they do afterward. It'll be disappointing if it's just over in a two-parter and then right back to purely episodic hijinks.
>>243342 Perhaps it was meant it was like Lion King in the way it influenced everyone to draw their cartoon horses in the style of the movie. I guess. Do most people do the same human-esque horse eyes thing Spirit does?
It felt like a bit of a cop-out for the giant thing he summoned to be just a statue, but I do like how it's always looming over establishing shots of the city, even during more light-hearted episodes. story mode is really working for this show.
And if you believe Bryke, Nick always had their backs on it, but couldn't afford to actually show Korrasami as a full-bore romantic couple because of concerns about overseas networks (specifically in countries that have strict rules about that sort of thing).
Well that and the unwritten rule that they all including the executives had accepted that it just couldn't be done. Also knowing how often one of a same sex pairing often gets a death flag in their relationship it's likely a good thing it was at the finsh line.
But now there is a baseline for such things going forward. From the way the Voltron crew talks it may be something they want to visit. Nothing solid on that but I wouldn't mind that sorta thing playing out with a new inclusion to the cast on that show.
>>243465 It's on Netflix so it's up in the air but I imagine they have looser restrictions than network television. Anyways I have high expectations for any queer romance in Voltron being better written, since they would have had time to plan it from the series' inception, and they already have a buffer of at least half a season for the characters to form bonds first, rather than diving headfirst into a crappy love triangle that poisoned the characters for the rest of the series like Korra did.
>>243468 Chris Savino's Dexter run was bad, but his PPG run was not bad. He worked on some good stuff, like The Flintstones: On the Rocks.
I don't watch a lot of TV animation these days, but I liked the preview episodes Nick released. It's probably the most relatable show on the network.
>I think they knew at that point that what we were doing with the show was right and they should just kind of continue letting us make it as we were making it, with no real stepping back and redoing anything.It was really great to see that it tested well, although I think it was also just the right place and the right time. I think that at the moment kids are looking for something a bit more relatable, but that’s going to change soon enough. I think it just happened to be that kids had had enough of funny animal cartoons, or snarky potty humour shows, especially on Nickelodeon, and hopefully they are ready for a human-based show that has a lot more heart than you would expect.
>>243480 Which is funny since Loud House started out as a family of Rabbits and about double the number of sisters. I do wonder if this had been green lit closer to the release of Zootopia if that would have stayed.
>>243509 The cartoon animals threads were originally created as a place for drawings that did not really belong anywhere else (as least that's what I wanted). Anon is just making fun of my earlier post.
>>243511 Because the way I saw it, the webcomics thread was made to post page updates, since that's all the content posted there. The already existing fanart thread was for all /co/-related fan drawings, while the wc thread had the new pages.
Man, the new season of the Croods ends on an actual dramatic cliffhanger. Why is DWA Netflix so dense with season ending cliffhangers, it's starting to stress me out, like I can't even look forward to an even numbered season of any of their shows now. Like, Shiro is totally dying for the dramatic cliffhanger to Season 2 of Voltron.
Rewatched Titan AE for ??th time. It still amazes me that, with its clusterfuck of a prolonged troubled production, Don and Gary and company still managed to cobble together a coherent working film that I personally consider great.
I decided to watch Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and I think there have already been two Shakespeare jokes (unless I'm reading too much into the "ruthless, high-priced, prosecuting attorney" "rending human flesh" being Shylock).
So I decided to check out the Kulipari books. It's fascinating how they tried to fit all the high points of the last book into only two episodes, losing a lot of context in the process. To the point where the show doesn't even get around to bringing up the sequel hook.
>>244403 Always find that an interesting Catch 22 sometimes. Some productions you wouldn't know are based on books. Yet differ so much from the books as to be useless to draw people further into the property.
Box Trolls comes as a heavily abridged version of the book series and How to Train your Dragon has a much lighter tone than its source material and I really doubt they will end those movies like the books did.
Bob -a properly written Bob, that's it- meeting four user kids could be a potentially poignant and heartbreaking moment if handled well. Poor guy had so much faith in the ultimate benevolence of the otherwise incomprehensible User, alone among the Guardians in his belief that Viruses couldn't possible be designed on purpose to destroy systems (ha!), and even in the opening narration he makes clear that he doesn't buy that the games are just for the User's pleasure (HA!).
Goddamit, maybe you guys can help. I saw a trailer for a pilot of a new animated series ages back, and now I can't find it. Unfortunately, I don't remember the title at all. It was set on a Trigun-esque desert planet, but with robots. The main characters included a cute little maintenance robot, a high-class servant droid looking for her employer, and an unkillable (and unkempt) outlaw. It had an anime-ish look but was also really clearly not Japanese. I think the pilot may have been funded on Kickstarter or Indiegogo.
So I discovered Simpsums. I guess I always heard zombie simpsons was a thing, but I didn't realize just how bad it was until I saw someone try to comically recap all the plots and realize that they aren't joking; most of that is actually what happened.
Could somebody explain to me the whole "Animaniacs sucks/is overrated/hasn't aged well" meme that has been going on for the past 5-6 years?
I finally rewatched a bunch of episodes of the show, and while my opinion that Pinky & The Brain was the top tier (with Freakazoid as the close second) of that wave of WB cartoons hasn't changed, I still found Animaniacs an enjoyable, funny, really well made cartoon. I simply don't understand all the hate.
>>244623 It's alright, but it's nowhere near the Messiah that the Internet used to think of it. A lot of the gags are dated pop culture references or repeat themselves over and over, the animation is bad as often as it's good, and only half the cast have gimmicks that can entertain even the first time. The Warner Bros and the Warner Sister themselves are only funny half the time, the rest just being absurdly annoying with no real direction.
>>244626 Also John F. Kriflauski hated the show so people shitpost about it. So legit complaints, and trolling something beloved. Same as usual, just like when people tore down BTAS because it was held on such a high pedestal.
John K is an asshole, though. I can’t think of a show he’s ever praised as much as the smell of his own farts.
And BTAS, like Animaniacs, is no perfect show, but it stands the test of time far better than most shows of its era (Animaniacs included). Ignore the existence of “I’ve Got Batman in My Basement” and the show’s overall quality shoots up even more.
Only thing I didn't like about Animaniacs was they went too hard on the musical Mickey Mousing to the point it was obnoxious, but every WB show from that era did that. Freakazoid had it and so did BTAS with a more serious version of it.
>>244629 My musical sensibilities (aka: opinions) make me despise Mickey Mousing and "every motion must be accompanied by a musical note", since I only want soundtracks to set the MOOD, not the ACTIONS. I simply hate "whimsical" music (along with puppies and sunshine).
>>244620 That's ebcause I have poor time management and missed it. Would help if Cartoon Network didn't ace its schedule page, though I guess I ought to get back on /co/ and get remidned by the threads there.
So while the last season finale cliffhanger conditioned me to expect another one, I am left with a lot of questions. Given that the finale already involved all of Julien's allies gathering together, fighting and losing, I have no idea where he plans to go to get help. It's a prequel so it's not like he can go get some familiar faces from the movies.
Also, still a bit annoyed at how often Dreamworks cartoons drop season finale cliffhangers, even if that means they have to completely shift gears from episodic comedy to do so. That just makes me anxious for the kinds of cliffhangers the actual serialized shows will drop.
>>244669 Huh, it never occurred to me that Netflix themselves might have a say in things http://latalkradio.com/content/combat-112516%20#audio_play But at around 1:40 here, the showrunner says Netflix has been explicitly pushing for them to do more serialized stuff to optimize for binge watching. And then he goes and says that the season 4 cliffhanger resolution will in fact take up all of season 5 with a deep serialized story that rivals his past work on Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. I don't even know how you would go about doing that for that setting.
>>244677 The order is for 78, so there would still be a 6th season to go after that. He talks about that, too. Dreamworks wants lots of shows so he doesn't imagine it's going to be renewed and thus he's already written the series finale to be the finale.
Disney shows that went into syndication (e.g., the Disney Afternoon shows) typically received a 65-episode order. This was done to ensure a show could be run year-round (5 episodes per week, 4 full runs per year). Kim Possible was originally 65 episodes long, too - until the show's fans put together a (successful) campaign to get the show one last season.
>>244680 Either way, it seems like they are planning to go out with a bang, so I will be pretty interested to see that play out next year. Weird to think that if 52/78 is the average order for all these shows, then most of the first wave is already half over. Also the last thing from that interview, he mentions they are working on a Felix the Cat cartoon, continuing to put the Dreamworks Classics Library to work on Netflix.
>>244706 Uh minorities DO exist in the countryside even if there's not as many of them relative to the city. My aunt-in-law is from a small town in Nebraska and her family were not the only Asians there. Would be easy to buy that Clark's town just happened to be more multicultural than average without breaking suspension of disbelief.
>>244772 >"Talking about a children's cartoons on the internet isn't exactly where I saw my life going." >"How does a grown man go on the internet and talk about Powerpuff Girls? [...]" Good job insulting your audience.
I appreciate that the Puss in Boots season finale has a full resolution, and just leaves plot threads for the next season instead of doing a huge cliffhanger like usual. It's funny how the way the spinoff shows are going, the events of the movies are going the be the least exciting things that ever happened to those characters.
>>244788 Knives did drunkenly lez out that one time with Scott Pilgrim's other ex-girlfriend I guess, but nothing came of it (apart from in the beat-em-up videogame adaptation where it becomes a special healing move for Kim and in Kim's ending)
>THE CHEAPENING OF COMICS >This is a copy of the speech that Bill Watterson gave at the Festival of Cartoon Art at Ohio State University,October 27, 1989. Yes, 1989, but I still believe this is interesting and relevant despite the advent of webcomics.
It also sheds a bit of light on his own comic's inspirations and values.
As someone who grew up after the 90's and had very little access to cartoons in the 00's, I'm starting to become interested in the history of cartoons, at least around the 90's. I've noticed lots of differences in their format, most noticeably a shift in pace. Older cartoons seem slower and more drawn out, especially with character reactions and plotline.
What are some historically significant cartoons made from 80s onwards? (and why do you consider them such?)
On a side note, I've started watching the first two seasons of Ren and Stimpy (no spoilers at all, pls). How can someone with an ounce of sanity pretend half of those episodes are for a kids show? I don't dislike the show (I love it), but the way they whole-heartedly advertise it as a kids show seems... morbid.
>>244894 Real Ghostbusters is a good study as you've got a good split between Syndicated batch of episodes they made before a network picked them up. The Early Era of the Network which increased the quality of the episodes while keeping a lot of the darker story tones intact, and then the Network dominated "Slimer Era" Which is just bad.
I'd say overall a good amount of the original nicktoons are great standouts that mixed adult humor into a kids show. Mainly Rockos Modern Life and Angry Beavers come to mind along with the aforementioned Ren n Stimpy
>>244915 He makes some interesting and correct points. >early Disney movies synced animation to music, instead of using music to establish mood That they did. >one is better than the other Not a fact, just his opinion. >early Disney movies were more subtle and allowed the audience to reach a conclusion without spelling it out verbally True that! >modern Disney movies rely on story too much That's the modern standard. Audiences are way more sophisticated now, and expect more from movies. >Zootopia is not a good buddy cop movie ................................. say that to me irl, not online, and see what happens................ m8.
>>244924 >3 minutes I certainly couldn't do that right now, but as you said it could be done with practice. Apparently you can hold your breath about twice as long underwater. From https://www.aidainternational.org (who only accept non-oxygen aided records [ie. no hyperventilating with oxygen before diving) the records are: >11 minutes, 35 seconds for men (Stéphane Mifsud, 2009) >9 minutes, 2 seconds for women (Natalia Molchanova, 2013) Therefore it's safe to assume, with practice, both genders can get to 3 minutes on land or submerged.
>>244931 Hitting the 3 minute mark while underwater is actually relatively easy, I did manage to do it in like a month or so back in college (geez, sounding like my dad already!), and the instructor could hold for 4 minutes and a half.