/baw/ - General Discussion

As a side-note to recent ongoing events, Alexander Lukashenko (president of Belarus) has fled to Turkey. Being that he was kept in power by Putin and Russia's armed forces he saw the writing on the wall and was the first out of there.

https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1672420961138757639
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672423333550333954

There's a tidal wave of strange information and events happening now.

So Prig's side was saying the war is built on lies, the country is corrupt and the boys on the ground are being massacred by the higher-ups for their own benefit. Putin comes out with the official statement that the ones turning against Russia are traitors stabbing the nation in the back and must be crushed.

Wagner takes over multiple cities on the way to Moscow, shoots down some Russian aircraft that attacked, are on the cusp of reaching Moscow which is readying itself for a siege.

But then >>429345 the potato peeler gets in contact with both sides and is able to "work out a deal"? Head of Wagner says he wants to stop things before they shed a drop of Russian blood (ignore anything that happened up till this point) and is going to walk back to base like a good soldier.

What exactly is going on? The mercenaries openly marched on the capital and took land with no one able to stop them, both sides were throwing out the harshest words possible decrying each other.
Russia is good at making its people forget embarrassing events but this is a big black eye for national pride that achieved nothing, its at best back to business as normal (with a few russian losses) and the war against Ukraine continues.

Did this insurrectionist just lose his nerve at the final hurdle? What could they have possibly offered him as a bribe? And wouldn't Russia likely move to assassinate him now as they've done to people multiple times in the past? Otherwise they are leaving someone who made the government look feeble alive and free.
Maybe he'll run off to have Wagner operate somewhere else in the world and leave the conflict entirely, no idea.

>>429363
American crime and police brutality cases are funny, because (as one might expect) only the craziest and shittiest stories get mainstream attention.

Looks like the remains of the actor Julian Sands has been found.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/24/entertainment/julian-sands-california-search-human-remains-found/index.html

>>429368
Struggled to even recognise who he is, didn't even know his disappearance was a thing. That's a shame.

>>429328
we dont need a thread for this crap euro war, take it to the hundred other imageboards

>>429388
You seem upset.

France is rioting again (is that even news?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66049705

>>429439
From what I've heard, it's basically BLM French Edition, with riots and mass looting taking place; among the ones who get caught by the police, the average age is only 17.

>>429444
At least he mentioned bad parenting. That's something that would never fly in the USA.

>>429548
Based serbians.

>>429606
https://maritime-executive.com/article/indonesia-detains-iranian-crude-oil-tanker-caught-in-illegal-sts-transfer
Funny enough an Iranian tanker managed to get itself detained yesterday for doing something illegal.
Those who live by the naval interception die by the naval interception.

>>429546
China sent another warship into Somaliland waters >>429227 and like before it was escorted away.
They seem really into threatening Somaliland at the moment, if because said country voiced support of Taiwan or because if Somaliland defeats Somalia/Puntland and strengthens its position that will curtail Chinese plans in the region who can say.

China is a scumbag government. All large powers will to some greater or lesser extent seek to advance their interests in the areas of smaller nations but something that personally pisses me off is China's tendency to sail fishing fleets into other country's waters and just overfish the area to death.
Its bad enough when the ecological destruction waged by China in its desire for economic power is confined to their own borders.

Is something that notably happened in Somalia and was an influence on the widespread instances of piracy in the region, fishermen no longer having a livelihood.

>>429796
Jesus fucking christ

>>429888
Does not ultimately matter.

>>429911
Wrong thread, also not sure what to feel.

>>429921
>claims to be wrong thread
>death of celebrity is a news item
>thread is called "news and politics"
yup.

>>429921
Nah its suitably newsworthy. It could have gone in this thread or somewhere on /mtv/, but even less people post or even browse /mtv/.

>>429922
I am selectively blind apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/05/west-african-bloc-gives-niger-coup-leaders-until-sunday-to-end-revolt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66465146

A coup went down in Niger deposing the elected president, ECOWAS (Economic Community Of West African States) forces seem like they might well be moving troops in to deal with it.

>>430016
looks like africa is finally getting sick of france's shit
speaking of france, roll to guess what the next riots will be about

>>430038
Its all probably been done with the backing and prodding of other foreign nations, Africa will just be trading one outside influence for another who will use conflict as a cover to mine out more resources or what-have-you.

>>429328
Prigozhin has died in a 'plane crash'
https://news.sky.com/story/putin-sends-condolences-to-family-after-prigozhin-death-in-plane-crash-12946736

>>430158
Putin hates traitors more than he hates his enemies. He said as much on TV some years ago.

>>430158
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1695044436038693017

https://ew.com/music/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-hospice-final-stages-liver-failure

Smash Mouth - All Star (Official Music Video)

>>430182
:'(

There's the conflict between Israel and Hamas going on at the moment that's capturing all the headlines. Though that sort of stuff just seems like business as usual for the region frankly.

Does anyone have a happy news story to share? Like something along the lines of a puppy or kitten born with a funny pattern on its fur that looks like a smiley face that's capturing the heart of people across the internet?

>>430462
The conflict at Israel means that effectively nobody gives a shit about Ukraine any more.

That's a happy news story as far as I'm concerned. I was getting sick of that shirt wearing asshole begging for more stuff every day.

>>430467
>shirt wearing asshole
What kind of retarded insult is that.

>>430467
The conflict over Russia's invasion of Ukraine is still ongoing and people do talk about it. Most notable as of the moment would be Ukraine recently got ATACMS from the west and used them to blow up a bunch of Russian airfields.

>>430660
That would be the rightful Mongolian border, not Chinese.

>>430660
>make Tartaria great again

>>430687
How cool

>>430687
I wonder how much of this was just an AI program doing all the choices.

>>430755
The war is going well but not so much everything else. There are anti-israel pro-palestine demonstrations in a lot of places in the western world, despite the politicians attempting to shut them down everywhere. The gaza strip is also suffering as much losses in civilians and infrastructure in the last few months than Ukraine did in the last few years - this isn't a war, it's genocide.

>Hamas is just a terrorist group who are only really good at slaughtering civilians at a festival in a sneak attack
And yet the israeli Iron Dome is one of the most sophisticated defense systems in the world, and Hamas managed to bypass it, resulting in the current war that left Gaza a rubble. Ask who profits from that.

>>430758
>resulting in the current war that left Gaza a rubble. Ask who profits from that.
The double secret deepwater jews?

>>430634
Saw Billy Connolly trending on twitter, thought another celebrity I've known for decades had died. Luckily turned out just to be people celebreating his birthday.

>>430850
The man who loved war, is now forced to be at peace, by reality itself.

People are talking about Epstein's Island again. Apparently there's going to be some sort of list of names released?

Mostly seems to be people of the American political divide using it as an opportunity to crow over social media about whoever they don't like on the othert team at the moment.

>>430975
>>430990
They're now getting airstriked for not knocking their shit on the head.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/houthis-rebels-attack-yemen-us-uk-b2477384.html

>>431049
I see nothing has changed since I left the glorious motherland.

>>431061
kek

Are there any news in regards of the Ukraine war? is it just a stalmate or somebody is going to finally win?

>>431068
It will probably be unofficially over at the end of this year.

>>431068
There haven't been any news since HAMAS attacked Israel. The world focuses on that now. Some allies say that it's time that Ukraine sues for peace and gives up the russian controlled territories. Germany still wants to increase support and send them more tanks (like that worked the last time they fought Russian in this territory).

>>431070
>Despite being the invading force Russia is now on the defensive and uses a wall of meat and mines to try and not lose any more of their gains.
Yes but that also means that the counter attack only advances a few kilometers per day at tremendous cost of materials and manpower. Russia is slowly grinding them up.

>>431074
Wheeling out that same old bullshit are you.
There has been news about events in the war, its still getting support from the west.
There's no point whatsoever for making peace with Russia since any agreement made with them isn't worth the paper its printed on, they'll just ignore it in the future and try again as has been shown repeatedly.

>at tremendous cost of materials and manpower. Russia is slowly grinding them up
The russian will always project his own failings onto others, see >>431049

>>431090
That area of the world is cursed.

>>431135
>that filename
I love you, anon.

>>431135
>Telegram
I always forget how relevant that App is on Russia.

The full duration of Tucker Interviewing Dagoth ur

>>431370
>Its funny if you know what the billboard says.jpg
What does the billboard say?

>>431393
Stability.

>>431370
Seems as if there's a "terrorist attack" happening in Moscow following the Election and announcement of another mobilization.
>1999 russian apartment bombings 2

>>431403
I wonder if Russians actually believe that bullshit or they get so used to Putin's propaganda that they no longer care anymore.

>>431405
Russians are an entire nations of serfs, they have been bred/broken over generations to accept the will of the strongman in charge and not cause a fuss, actively drag down and dismiss any of their peers that threaten to become 'politicial' and actually do something about the state of the nation.

Even as the government openly lies to them in the practice of 'Vranyo' they create a fiction in their own minds to glorify the perfect untouchable 'Tsar' and blame all the constant shit handling of the nation and its actions that leave them in agony as the fault of the bad corrupt 'Boyars'.
Thats why you can find so many videos of groups of russians infront of a camera, be it say pleb soldiers or civillians, reciting their woes all begging Tsar Putin to save them (and reassuring him they know its not his fault he just doesn't know the truth because his bad bad underlings are keeping it from him).
While the actual truth is Putin is a selfish incompetent dictator who is happy to keep a bubble between himself and the plebs through long tables and countless body doubles that would sacrifice all the people of his nation if it meant one more minute in power/alive.

Its all useless performative theatre rather than taking real action.

>>431408
>Russians are an entire nations of serfs, they have been bred/broken over generations to accept the will of the strongman in charge and not cause a fuss, actively drag down and dismiss any of their peers that threaten to become 'politicial' and actually do something about the state of the nation.
That makes sense. This song popped up on my youtube recs some time ago
Lubeh - Davai Za / Любэ - Давай за
When I listened to it for the first time I though it was an anti-military song because the lyrics talks about young soldiers having to endure a lot of atrocities, missing their families and losing their friends, so in similar veins to Don't Tell Mom I'm in Afghanistan (and its different iterations). However then I realized
//youtube.com/watch?v=ni19S9FazEg
It's not. It's not an anti-military song, totally the opposite, it's pro-war. So with that context in mind the lyrics actually shows the Russian people giving up, accepting jumping from war to war is part of their normal life instead of the will of an autocratic government, also passively accepting having to endure missing their families, facing the horrors of war and losing their friends is something necessary to protect their country. Which is frankly something very horrible and depressing.

>>431413
Blindly suffering (at the hands of an incompetent and uncaring state) is held up as an incredible Russian culturual virtue, and in terms of warfare uselessly throwing away entire hordes of their population for every mile is held up as a great Strength going all the way back to the so-called "Great Patriotic War".

Which is all just a way to get the population to accept and even defend absolute surrender to the mobsters in charge.
They violently hate the idea of any of their slavic neighbours actually getting their act together and working to improve their country/lot in life because it destroys the myth russians live their existance by. That everywhere else is inherently as bad as it is for them but everyone else is just lying about it.

>>431405
>I wonder if Russians actually believe that bullshit or they get so used to Putin's propaganda that they no longer care anymore.

Americans believe all the horse shit they hear on Fox News and CNN too, so there's no difference.

>>431414
Suffering being a virtue is a recent thing, but dying (bravely, attempting to kill the EVIL enemy) was always a virtue. You will get to best Afterlife that way.

>>429328
So, it seems Iran just launch the nukes.

>>431525
More like they launched a bunch of drones and missiles, which seem to have been mostly intercepted?

>>431525
Nah, I wish.
also the attack has gotten a 2 day advance warning.

Appears that Israel have responded to the Iranian munitions spam.
But instead of just throwing out a horde of munitions in the general direction of the other side they actually targeted and blew up an airfield or such.

>>431566
An airfield in the same sector as Iran's nuclear research program.
I hope this shit escalates until the middle east is a radioactive wasteland.

>>431570
>thinking it will just stop there
>does not know Iran and Russia are allies

>>431571
Even better.

>>431571
Well hey they've been threatening for decades over basically every little thing that hasn't gone their way, let them actually put up or shut up.

>>431573
>every little thing that hasn't gone their way
You mean how the west basically carved out a piece of arab owned land for the jews, who have been genociding the neighboring islamic countries for several decades ever since? Is that what you call a little thing?

>>431572
It's almost like you want millions of innocents to die or something.

>>431575
There is no almost about it whatsoever.

>>431576
Then perhaps you should join those millions as collateral damage.

>>431578
It would be more fun to create those millions.

to post some happy news for once:
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/corporate/2024/4/retired-british-man-drinks-at-over-100-pubs-in-record-breaking-bar-crawl-768551
>A retired man has broken the record for most pubs visited in 24 hours (individual) with 120.
>69-year-old David Clarkson (UK) who has called Australia home for over 40 years, smashed the previous record of 99 held by Harry Kooros and Jake Loiterton (Australia).
>With the record secured, David ordered himself, a well-deserved full pint of a beer.

>>431602
Floods are semi-normal in certain parts of the world, the uranium leak is just incompetence.

>>431678
Ah yes, there was a massive solar flare eruption last night, and you could see the northern lights all over Europe during the night. I made sure to unplug my computers, just in case.

>>431679
Lucky bastard.

President of Iran may have just died in a helicopter crash, currently missing at least.

>>431715
Is that a good thing of a bad thing for Palestina.

>>431715
>Important addition: the Foreign Minister was in the helicopter with him
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/20/iran-president-ebrahim-raisi-helicopter-crash-latest-news/

>>431722
Calm down Benjamin. They don't have their streets filled with fentanyl addicts, they aren't producing an infinite number of plastic junk and dumping them in the ocean, or greenhouse gases that cause global warming, and they aren't one of the multiple countries committing genocide as you are reading this. Hell the last time they attacked another country, it was in retaliation and with several days of advance warning.

When it comes to the global picture, Iran is not doing much.

>>431727
Weak deflection. Has no weight on the fact the religious dictatorship is a blight upon its people.

>>431728
Most western politicians are a blight upon their people too, and have equally dictatorial laws. Say something politically incorrect on twitter and you can lose your job, say something racist in the UK or deny the holocaust in the EU and you get fined, etc.
So again, Iran isn't doing anything worse, they are just not pretending that you are "free".

>>431729
>they are just not pretending that you are "free".
Stop pretending you aren't free just because you can't say stupid shit on Facebook. That's completely different to actually getting killed for not following whatever religious text the state says is moral.

>>431727
Where is this all coming from? Not even wrong, just non-seq.

>>431722
>The leaders of the religious dictatorship that is Iran are a blight upon its people, would be a boon if all of them died.
Alas, as the anarchists of the late 1800s learned, you can't kill the hydra by chopping off the heads.

>>431729
>Say something politically incorrect on twitter and you can lose your job
You just conflated best interest under capitalism with law. The mandatory quest for profit forces companies to try and please everyone they can, so they are pressured by economic interests to defuse media flak, spinelessly firing people who give the company a bad association. News companies in particular globally have had employees dismissed over pro-Palestinian remarks, which pro-Zionism interests (be it think tanks, media outlets, politicians) have tried to make a politically incorrect position.

You're right that the 'free world' isn't (and never was) free, but it's also silly to equivocate fines and social ostracism with execution. Secular liberalism, as flimsy, fragile and shallow as it is, has benefits. One of my internet friends will literally be killed if they come out as non-Muslim, it's a less common issue in the West. Those are harder conditions to work with compared to being able to march down a street without their thugs using their batons. Neither place is free, both suck, but I know which I'd rather be in.

(That all said, Iran is overall better off under theocratic oppression than under a 'democratic' puppet of the US - just ask their neighbours)

>>431801
I do not keep track of absolutely everything everywhere, please forgive for not knowing who that is. But it's somewhere in Europe, right?

>>431802
Its a British politician, Nigel Farage. Right wing leader of 'nationalist/independence' politicals, generally shit at actually amassing power.
Making another bid for relevancy, in a jolly old tradition for politicians got milkshaked by a member of the public.

>>431803
I feel more cultured now.

>>431891
>Artistic Swimming
>Just one guy
That's even sadder

>>431874
Fucking hilarious.

>>431874
God, the pride flag is a fucking abomination.

>>431899
>There's nothing wrong with the rainbow pride flag
It's not good flag design and the fact some retards misstook it as "the colors mean sexualities" it was what made the other flag with ever worse designs to appear. The lack of cohesive design was what lead to the flag you are posting.

So how long until Israel collapses?

>>431953
Too important for certain projects. Israel is not going anywhere.

Its funny that Cypress Hill are going to perform orchestral because of an old Simpsons joke

https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jul/10/hip-hop-band-cypress-hill-makes-1996-simpsons-joke-come-true-london-symphony-orchestra

>>431957
>shocking details of corporate collusion to silence conservative viewpoints through targeting Breitbart News, Joe Rogan, and Twitter (now X) among others.
>Joe Rogan
Lol. It does have a point, a "text categorization" model could be trained to target specific groups, but for the way it's described in that article is the same conservatist whine "they banned us for spreading misinformation/lies that means we are getting censored!", don't take it too seriously; it's basically more culture war fear mongering bullshit that doesn't acknowledge the true potential of what an AI model could do on the hands of a undemocratic government.

>>431964
>the way it's described in that article is the same conservatist whine "they banned us for spreading misinformation/lies that means we are getting censored!", don't take it too seriously;

It's a house of representatives judiciary committee report, not whining about crazy conspiracy theory. I'd say that's reason enough to take it seriously, because it gives us definite proof that there is a group who is actively manipulating social media towards their own goals. Here's the full pdf of the report:
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-10%20GARMs%20Harm%20-%20How%20the%20Worlds%20Biggest%20Brands%20Seek%20to%20Control%20Online%20Speech.pdf

>>431973
Nah, it smacks of blogger shit. People are just using an official position to push their own fanfiction.

>>432014
kek