/baw/ - General Discussion

I'm gonna go ahead and say it, fuck Ukraine.

>>425576
I like how slick and professional the camera cuts are.

>>425576
>>425578
Have the actual video of it.
Serving army officer shut down on Russian state TV for saying soldiers are dying in Ukraine

>>425563
>Cry some more vatnykker.
nope, not Russian sorry. I'm just a guy who doesn't like that it's harder to get jobs because every company favours foreign workforce or immigrants.

>>425584
You are just an idiot who lets his petty personal issues blind him in unrelated situations.

>no you can't support neither government
USA sport-esque binary fetishism pisses me off. if it weren't clear, fuck russia, fuck the ukrainian state and fuck NATO, support for most of the ukrainian civilians

>>425589
The yanks do indeed have an intense problem with tribal us-vs-them two-team bullshit in politics.
Though rolling around on the ground and yelling fuck everyone instead of taking any actual look at what's going on is also a stupid stance, especially when you have to actively engage in a topic in the first place only to do that.

>>425599
Problem with a specific plane being the reason they cancelled?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55229438

Though knowing Russian government corruption the claims of the parts being stolen by thieves is just a cover up for the fact someone in charge sold them off at some point.

Okay, so I'm not sure if everyone here is American or not so you may not know the history behind this, but it seems that after WWII, nobody really wanted to fuck with America. Of course there was the recently ended Afghanistan War and the Vietnam/Korean wars. But since America developed, and used (in combat), some of the first nuclear bombs, nobody messed around with the U.S.

Put it this way, if America wasn't part of NATO, BRICS would have already tried to take it over. And that's not only because of the nukes, the U.S. has the strongest and largest navy and air force because of how far it is from other world powers (to reach either Europe or Asia from North America, you'd have to cross at least one ocean). Putin hasn't decided to try and conquer beyond Ukraine because he's practically surrounded by NATO.

What do you think?

>>425614
>after WWII, nobody really wanted to fuck with America
After WWII, all the world powers were exhausted and dealing with trying to rebuild their countries and holding on to their colonial empires, except for the US and Russia. Nobody was in any shape to fuck with anyone, except the US and Soviets. The next 45 years after that were spent thwarting the Soviets indirectly whenever possible across the globe. Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Afghanistan (in the 80s) were all part of that.

>if America wasn't part of NATO
then most likely Stalin would've marched across Europe. Soviets invading Europe was a threat bigger than the Nazis were, considering they had a several million standing army busy raping eastern Europe at the moment.


>Putin hasn't decided to try and conquer beyond Ukraine
This is not exactly correct, they've been funding and supporting the opposing forces in nearly every war where the US if supporting one side. Syria, Libya, etc. The only difference between that and Ukraine is that with Ukraine they directly attacked them instead of making it a proxy war.

Also keep in mind that nearly all countries directly surrounding Russia is either Russia-friendly, or at worst maintains a neutrality. This is for a reason. A NATO country bordering Russia would be the equivalent of Mexico having Russian military bases.

>>425633
I'm worried that this will end up backfiring. This is all fun and games and then one day we'll wake up to nukes being dropped because one too many jokes were made.

>>425634
On the other hand appeasement simply doesn't work, and when an imperialist nation violently breaks itself during a feat of aggression that is the perfect time for everyone else to put the breaks on their train.

One of the most fucked up parts of Russia taking over its neighbours is how it deports masses of the civilians in captured cities into the interior only to replace them with their own citizens, so they can say that the place is Russian and wants to be part of the whole.

Hope by the time this is all over Ukraine can actually get its people back, along with its stolen territory.

>>425647
Those people "that should be brought back" are dead.

https://twitter.com/archer83able/status/1525483258917572608?s=21&t=MUuvGLV-aN3UCoBDHTHLBQ

Russia is actually resorting to equipping their cannon fodder with Mosins instead of modern weapons.

>ukraine ukraine ukraine
eh

>>425685
Its the news of the hour.
If there's something you wanna mention then step up to the plate.

>>425713
Well, parents should not neglect their children. Name 1 mass shooter with a good supportive family. And of course, if the apple is rotten to the core, put those people somewhere they won't cause harm to society.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2022/05/oil-leakage-new-dock-built-repair-russias-ill-fated-carrier

>>425756
Not too alarming. Russia has entire lakes filled with industrial byproducts.

>>425713
There's been yet another mass shooting now (Texas), its a school shooting at that with a bunch of dead children.

>>425758
Family situation?

>>425760
That is not a look of a happy person.

>>425764
If I did not know any better, I would say all those mass shooters were mind controlled or something.

But that's crazy talk.

>>425765
What spazz nonsense are you going on about now.

>>425758
>There's been yet another mass shooting now (Texas), its a school shooting at that with a bunch of dead children.

Oh look, it's Wednesday already.

>>425758
The police were fucking cowards who went in to save their own kids and then fucked off and sat outside as the other children were shot.

Uvalde Texas: Texas Department of Public Safety Interview

>>425784
After how they got treated in recent years, I'm not surprised. Go try defunding them again, see what will happen the next time.

>>425786
ok, I'm not familiar with the situation, but being a trained and equipped commando guy does not make you immune to bullets. They can't zerg rush the shooter without forcing him to, I dunno, shoot back at them, or kill any hostages (if there are any hostages), etc.
They also have to consider if there are any accomplices who might attack out or whatever. I don't know what happened there exactly, but I can think of so many reasons why they did not go in, all of them boil down to one thing however: they have to know everything about the situation, otherwise whatever plan they cook up can result in more deaths. Sitting around for an hour could be because they did not get orders to go in, which they did not get because the command elements did not get a clear picture of the situation. Again, I don't know what happened, but that could have been the case.

>>425787
>I'm not familiar with the situation
Then shut up and actually read up on the event instead of mewling a bunch of bullshit.

>>425792
I'm not American, and you should just admit to your overwhelming ignorance.

>>425793
What I'll admit to is my overwhelming sense of not giving a fuck what exactly happened there. As far as I'm concerned, dead American kids is a good thing.

Russia has been claiming pretty much everything has been a feint since their invasion started... only to actually get feinted themselves in Severodonetsk when seemingly retreating Ukrainian forces turned around and struck at the unprepared advancing Russian troops. Hilarious.
Conflict in and around the city is current so something to watch with interest.

>>425866
Anyone who praises Fox News does not understand that all state sponsored legacy news companies are bad.

>>425880
Don't think anyone is carrying any feelings except for "Ok Boomer" towards Fox News here.

In other modern conflict news Germans are massive pussies, unlike the rest of their gang are constantly wussing out and dragging their feet at every turn when it comes to fulfilling their claimed obligations so as not to upset Russia.

If they just came out and said "We are rolling over and not sending anything" that would at least be a stance and show some determination.
Instead they stammer and shake their hands engaging in delaying tactics, trying to have both sides.

>>425923
That's not because they don't want to upset Russia, it's just because Germany are massive pussies.

>>425929
Got the fight totally beaten out of them.
Oh if only we could bring back their WW2 spirit, but carefully harnessed and directed only towards the steppes instead of all their neighbours.

Apparently some actually Schizophrenic suicidal dude faked like he was going to shoot up a school, logically inspired by the multiple happening recently, so they cops would kill him.

What do you say to that? At least it was just the guy looking for it got killed and no one else?
He could have had the decency to at least slit his wrists or OD in private.

>>425992
The most anti-gay countries have the most repressed gay people. What else is new.

Video footage from an ammo dump that was hit
Красный Луч 16.06.22

>>425558
>like America being in a tizzy about abortions again?
Yeah so now Roe vs Wade has been overturned.

Seems more like the Conservative majority in the Supreme Court were using it as an excuse to flex due to there being a Democrat in the White House than anything else.

>>426024
That's a big secondary reason, yes. A law being speedrun into existence through non-constitutional means while being based on a lie..... was another reason.

>>426033
The only legal invasion is the one Palpatine will make legal.

>>426035
I think Real Life is written better than Jar Jar Abram's works.

>>426043
>Russia just blew up a mall full of people in Ukraine.

phew, glad it wasn't a mall full of Ukrainians then.

>>426057
Are those images from Google Earth or from their own satellites? Google Earth is sometimes months/years behind.

>>426060
Images taken from google earth would probably be higher quality to be honest.

There was a shooting in a mall in Copenhagen, Denmark

Shooter is a mentally-unbalanced guy who apparently took his father's hunting gun, killed three people and some others wounded.

Took something like 11 minutes for police to show up and apprehend the perp, so more dirt in the eye for Texas >>425786

>>426121
Something something people kill people.

Is SCOTUS corrupt? Does it need reforming? Why do unelected demagogues get unlimited terms?

>>426145
Everything related to governments is corrupt, the more accurate question is if said institution is more or less corrupt than others.

To be fair my soul is dead from political apathy growing like a cancer inside me fuelled by the carcinogen that is reality so the only solution I can think of is to burn it all down, then burn down the people who burnt it down because they are obviously just going to recreate the system but this time with themselves in the big chairs.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-ex-prime-minister-abe-may-have-been-shot-taken-hospital-nhk-2022-07-08/

Someone has made an assassination attempt on former Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe.
He's been rushed to hospital with critical injuries as far as word goes.

>>426173
He died.

>>426175
Geez.
Was any reason given or was it just a random insane guy?

>>426176
I mean it was probably an insane guy who took issue with him politically, logically or not, since it happened during a public speech in the street.
Perp did it with a low-tech homemade piece-of-shit firearm.

>>426177
>I mean it was probably an insane guy who took issue with him politically, logically or not, since it happened during a public speech in the street.

OK, let me rephrase that: was it a premediated, pre-planned attack made for political reasons, or was it a schizo trying to be "ha-ha I killed the king!"?

>Perp did it with a low-tech homemade piece-of-shit firearm.
Not surprising, Japanese gun laws are extremely strict, if you carry a gun there you are either a cop or a yakuza.

>>426178
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62089486
>The suspect, named as Tetsuya Yamagami, admitted shooting Abe with a homemade gun, and said he had a grudge against a "specific organisation", police said.

>Several other handmade weapons, similar to those used in the attack, had been confiscated after a search of the suspect's house, police officers told a news conference.

>Explosives were also found at the home and police said they had advised residents to evacuate the area.

>The suspected shooter told officers he had a grudge against a specific group he believed Abe was connected to, police said, adding that they were investigating why the former PM was targeted out of other people related to the group.

>>426179
So, Abe was a leading member of Nippon Kaigi; an ultranationalist subparty of the LDP (Japan's largest and almost always leading political party). These guys essentially want Japan to return to how it was during its Imperialist era right before WWII. One big thing that they're known for is a complete revisionist version of Japan's role in WWII, claiming that they were "liberating" South East Asia and that all the war crimes and borderline slavery they committed never happened and were just made up to make Japan look bad by the West. Another big thing they've pushed for is the remilitarization of Japan and making it the major Asian military superpower again.

IIRC, the guy who shot Abe was part of the Japanese Self Defense Force; their pseudo military. Honestly, he just could have hated the idea that the JDSF could be fully militarized and put a bunch of people in danger.

>>426190
Wanting to build up your military at least makes sense when your neighbour is china. That's a practical concern.

Fuck Jap WW2 crime denial though.

>>426190
Didn't the news say that the police doesn't even know for sure if said group really exists?

>>426192
Japan sugarcoats a lot of its news until they get all the facts together. At the same time, since we're not really privy to internal Japanese politics, this "specific organization" could be some wackadoo conspiracy shit only they know about. Like, if someone killed some high ranking American politician like McConnell and muttered something about Skull and Bones or Majestic 12.

>>425758
>>425760
There's been footage released from this shooting incident. Taken from security cameras.
Graphic Content Warning: Hallway footage obtained in Uvalde school shooting | KVUE

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/18/us/greenwood-indiana-mall-shooting.html

Yet another American shooting spree happened, this time at a mall.
Most notable point is after the killer shot a couple of people he got killed himself by a bystander.

>Lost Son
>Gained Car
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1548992984946974720

>>426274
looks to me like they respect their soldiers, unlike some other countries.

>>426275
Perhaps. I wonder where the money for the car is coming from, since taxes are collected from working LIVING people.........

>>426276
They are popping oligarchs left and right so there should be an ample supply of that. And the EU sanctions drove up prices so high that Russia is actually doing as good as before the war, if not better (while the EU is getting fucked).

If I was into conspiracies I'd also say that they could buy up all the NATO weapons that Ukrainians are putting on the black market, and then resell them at higher prices in different locations.

>>426277
Shouldn't you put weapons on the black market AFTER you used them?

>>426277
Little old plus4chan has finally warranted reading off the same old scripts?

No, the russian economy is not going strong, its a house of sand being propped up artificially and with statistics being obfuscated to give the appearance of strength, as is usual with Russia the appearance is more important than actual power.

Nor are Russia going to be buying anything in terms of major Nato weapon systems.
Saying that Ukrainian is selling all of them on the black market like their own military does with material at every level is just a cope after all their 'reconnaissance footage' of himars being destroyed was laughed out for how obviously fake it was.
Only a meagre eight of those highly mobile launchers in Ukraine have been able to hammer Russian ammo dumps repeatedly causing their already strained logistics to worsen and there's been nothing they can do to counter it

Russia would be over the moon to be able to gain access to western rocket artillery with its accuracy and precision, seeing as they have been reduced to the likes of inaccurate anti-ship missiles launched in the general vicinity of targets.

>>426294
Thank you.

Antonovskiy bridge

>>426355
Politics is alot like a stoned cat with a ball rolling around in catnip, when you think about it

>>426389
Wait..... the same woman who had a mini-stroke recently and babbled about fucking birdbaths?

>>426390
Ah old people have mini-strokes all the time, its fine~
Or maybe she's dying and wants to go out in a blaze of glory getting shot down by the People's Republic so the U.S.A can have an excuse to go kill some fucking commies in Red China, AMURRICA!

>>426275
Pull the other one, its got bells on.
https://twitter.com/TSzulc_/status/1554906984717090816

>>426445
>when you finally make murder illegal

>>426492
isn't that 420chan's /i/ board they show on the monitor?

A novelist was brutally stabbed on stage, left hospitalized, all because he wrote a fiction novel in the past that offended muslims and had a fatwa placed on him more than 10 years ago by the religious officials of Iran.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62528689

Islam as a faith needs to be broken and moderated in its entirety, it is simply unable to function with basic human values of the western world.

>>426511
It's only the extremists who act like that.

>>426512
You mean entire Muslim countries like Iran?

>>426513
It's hard to not be extremists when Israel is committing genocide against your people every week.

>>426517
>WHUTTABUT-
Fuck off anon.

As much as the forced creation of another such nation in an area of the world already rife with ethnic and religious tensions was indeed utterly retarded and shouldn't have happened no one mentioned Israel and it literally has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

>>426520
>no one mentioned Israel and it literally has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

So if someone makes daily genocides against your brothers, you should just ignore it? Is that your argument? Iran being full of extremists isn't a result of muslims being assholes, it's the direct result of the entire area being fucked by world powers continuously for the past half fucking decade. It's not a "what about..." situation, it is a direct response to things that happen in their area, with them, and with their surrounding people. Including Israel daily bombing his neighbours, as well as their neighbouring countries being invaded every 5-10 years.

>>426526
And yet you had to specify Israel as a deflection, as if violence and cleansing of minorities because of their ethnicity or religion being different wasn't already a common occurrence in the various countries of the middle east.

And this in the end is all still a misdirection from the original fact that the muslim world as a whole regularly cries out for people to be murdered just for writing a storybook or drawing a newspaper comic, to the point of making official declarations/placing bounties on individuals like this author who was stabbed on-stage.

>>426527
>And yet you had to specify Israel as a deflection,
It's not a deflection. The major powers of the world have been dicking with that area of the world for a long while, which has been the source of conflict for decades. The same thing happened on the Balkans over a century ago, except it was too close to the world powers and sparked off WW1.

>as if violence and cleansing of minorities because of their ethnicity or religion being different wasn't already a common occurrence in the various countries of the middle east.
Which include Israel, who religiously believe they are the chosen ones and everyone else are below them. Drop them into the middle east and then you are wondering why entire countries turn into knowing nothing but war for generations? Grow the fuck up.

>And this in the end is all still a misdirection from the original fact that the muslim world as a whole regularly cries out for people to be murdered just for writing a storybook or drawing a newspaper comic, to the point of making official declarations/placing bounties on individuals like this author who was stabbed on-stage.

Okay, one, those are extremists like I mentioned, and two, who are you to decide that what their entire religion and upbringing says is wrong?
They are in the right just as much as you are in the right for making newspaper comics that take a piss on their religion. Your upbringing says that it is fine to make fun of everything and nothing is sacred. Their upbringing says that some things are sacred and should not be made fun of, and whoever does so needs to be stoned. In the end they have more constitution than you, because there are still values they consider sacred, while the rest of Paris is putting 20 feet green butt plugs into public areas and calling it "art".

The real morons are the ones who decided it is okay to mix completely opposite cultures together like that. And you know what? In the end, the muslims will win out, because they are willing to kick the shit out of others.

>>426531
>Islam is a religion of peace and they never does anything bad, west just bullies them with violence
>Muslims will beat everyone because they are more violent and willing to murder people unlike weak westerners
You need to go back.

>>426527
>the muslim world as a whole regularly cries out for people to be murdered just for writing a storybook or drawing a newspaper comic

Charlie Hebdo was a comic ran by a couple of Darwin award winners who decided it would be funny to make fun of the neighbours who have a long history of beheading those who make fun of them. Depiction of Mohammed is banned in Islam (to avoid the idolatry that Christianism became), so it wasn't a funny drawing but a deliberate act of blasphemy. It's the same as antagonizing the police with a gun-looking object and then getting shot to death.