I can understand Russians shilling for their own land online, or anyone whose country is aligning itself in support of Russia in their takeover, but why the hell do you get Americans going so far for such an obviously inadequate enemy country.
>no you can't support neither government USA sport-esque binary fetishism pisses me off. if it weren't clear, fuck russia, fuck the ukrainian state and fuck NATO, support for most of the ukrainian civilians
>>425589 The yanks do indeed have an intense problem with tribal us-vs-them two-team bullshit in politics. Though rolling around on the ground and yelling fuck everyone instead of taking any actual look at what's going on is also a stupid stance, especially when you have to actively engage in a topic in the first place only to do that.
Okay, so I'm not sure if everyone here is American or not so you may not know the history behind this, but it seems that after WWII, nobody really wanted to fuck with America. Of course there was the recently ended Afghanistan War and the Vietnam/Korean wars. But since America developed, and used (in combat), some of the first nuclear bombs, nobody messed around with the U.S.
Put it this way, if America wasn't part of NATO, BRICS would have already tried to take it over. And that's not only because of the nukes, the U.S. has the strongest and largest navy and air force because of how far it is from other world powers (to reach either Europe or Asia from North America, you'd have to cross at least one ocean). Putin hasn't decided to try and conquer beyond Ukraine because he's practically surrounded by NATO.
>>425614 >after WWII, nobody really wanted to fuck with America After WWII, all the world powers were exhausted and dealing with trying to rebuild their countries and holding on to their colonial empires, except for the US and Russia. Nobody was in any shape to fuck with anyone, except the US and Soviets. The next 45 years after that were spent thwarting the Soviets indirectly whenever possible across the globe. Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Afghanistan (in the 80s) were all part of that.
>if America wasn't part of NATO then most likely Stalin would've marched across Europe. Soviets invading Europe was a threat bigger than the Nazis were, considering they had a several million standing army busy raping eastern Europe at the moment.
>Putin hasn't decided to try and conquer beyond Ukraine This is not exactly correct, they've been funding and supporting the opposing forces in nearly every war where the US if supporting one side. Syria, Libya, etc. The only difference between that and Ukraine is that with Ukraine they directly attacked them instead of making it a proxy war.
Also keep in mind that nearly all countries directly surrounding Russia is either Russia-friendly, or at worst maintains a neutrality. This is for a reason. A NATO country bordering Russia would be the equivalent of Mexico having Russian military bases.
>>425596 Honestly this whole invasion has just been one drawn-out joke at Russia's expense, and honestly a deserving one with how they've thrown their supposed weight around for decades.
Every part of the system is corrupt and idiotic, at this point with how things have been going it would be an even bet they don't even have more than a handful of functioning nuclear weapons left (shit's expensive and requires proper maintenance).
>>425634 On the other hand appeasement simply doesn't work, and when an imperialist nation violently breaks itself during a feat of aggression that is the perfect time for everyone else to put the breaks on their train.
One of the most fucked up parts of Russia taking over its neighbours is how it deports masses of the civilians in captured cities into the interior only to replace them with their own citizens, so they can say that the place is Russian and wants to be part of the whole.
Hope by the time this is all over Ukraine can actually get its people back, along with its stolen territory.
>>425713 Well, parents should not neglect their children. Name 1 mass shooter with a good supportive family. And of course, if the apple is rotten to the core, put those people somewhere they won't cause harm to society.