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Black Hand ## Developer
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After half year, the board software has finally been updated.

Please use this thread for bug reports, questions, and suggestions.
Black Hand ## Developer
Why did it take so long?
The old board software was buggy and did not scale with a large database, nor was it easy to add new sections to it. Because of this, a significant portion of the rendering had to be rewritten from scratch, combined with a lot of database and query optimization. This took a lot of trial and error.
Once the new software was up and running, it replicated the boards near perfectly, but it did nothing else. So a little extra time was taken to add a few new features, and to fix some more old bugs.

There is still room for speed improvements (very little caching is done right now), but the new code was deemed good enough to go into production.
Black Hand ## Developer
New features:
- a frontpage. Also, lots of favicons.
- RSS feeds. There are 7 in total: 4 on the frontpage, 2 on the index, and 1 for a thread. You can use the feeds to see new posts minutes after they are made, on any board, without needing to load the site every time.
- catalog. The stylesheet for this is work in progress.

Feedback on the new features would be welcome.

bugs fixed:
- any bug related to thread rebuilding, such as:
- posts or threads remaining visible in the index after being deleted
- new threads not being created immediately
- old pages not updating
- phrase banning is now fixed
- ipv6 is handled now
- a bug that reduced the maximum allowed image size on uploads (almost twice as big images can be uploaded now)
- webm uploading is fixed
- mp3 bitrates should be displayed properly now
- youtube and vimeo embeds should be fixed (unfortunately this does not affect old posts, only new ones)
and possibly others I forgot. It has been a long time.
I had an issue using spoilers and greentext. Testing.
>did it work?
Black Hand ## Developer
That's odd because they are supposed to be turned on. The options were set in the SQL, at least... but did not appear in the admin panel. I don't know.

re-set them now, and they should be working:
>did it work?
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Because I wanted a brown/“coffee”/“chocolate” color scheme, I went ahead and made a userstyle for plus4 so I could edit and test for a proper color scheme that doesn’t wreck my eyes. I used CSS variables to make switching colors out a far easier process.

The userstyle as it stands right now — https://pastebin.com/qR14R1Pn — only replaces the blue colors (which are commented out in the variable declarations), which leaves everything else untouched. If’n someone wants to use it for testing and creating a proper brown-hued color scheme for plus4, go nuts. (I prefer lighter text on darker backgrounds, but this was a spur-of-the-moment thing for me.)
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Aaaaaaaaaand there’s another issue for you dark wizard devs to fix: link parsing!
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I'm having an issue with the https:// protocol. Works fine for demo site, not here.
moose ## Admin
The cert fucked up due to nameserver change, I'll be re-enabling it tomorrow
Black Hand ## Developer
It is premature to write new styles; the index and thread templates will be rewritten (eventually). The catalog is a "sneak peak" of that, it runs on the new code (and uses practically no js).
Of course, you are free to write your own user codes, just keep this in mind.

That would need to be done with javascript and I'm concerned about speed, since we have 300+ post threads.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
The userstyle is mainly just for testing/"what if" purposes, not for a replacement of the actual CSS. As for the parsing issue: Eh, I have a Linkify bookmarklet if need be.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Minor issue with parsed YouTube links: The YouTube favicon no longer shows up to the left of the link.
Black Hand ## Developer
Could you please point out an example, as it shows up fine for me.
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There is an unrelated bug in that newly made posts won't have the javascript trigger on them, so if they have a youtube link in them, they won't expand until you reload the page. But that's pretty minor so I'll only fix it once I get to touch the ajax code in general.
Can we finally get the rest of the banners added? I think all the ones before >>396676 got added but none of the ones after. Pick the best, I guess.
Black Hand ## Developer
We updated to HTTPS.
You may need to flush your cache/cookies if you are experiencing errors, since I had to restructure a few things in the js code to make the switch simpler.

As usual, please report any bugs here.
Most of those are awful.

Maybe make some more banners, and hope that people make better ones?
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MP4 posting should be enabled on all boards now.

I removed a bunch of old stump code, it might make posting a bit faster.
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>MP4 posting

Requesting a phrase filter on "South Korea", unless we can find some other characteristic phrase in that Korean political spam.
Black Hand ## Developer
Please make sure you put a ban on such posts, not just delete them, otherwise they don't get logged and I won't be able to figure out a common phrase.
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I wasn't able to ban this one as it is outside my moderator boards.
Should we ban people trying to use <a href> links who aren't moderators? It's pretty common in spam, and apart from admin posts I don't think anyone legitimate has tried to use them.
That's not a bad idea, I'll keep it in mind if we get hit harder.
Black Hand ## Developer
Here's hoping it doesn't accidentally block everyone from posting.
Black Hand ## Developer
Well in the end it did break posting temporarily. It should be fixed now.
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someone unironically posted on /draw/

what do
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>someone unironically posted on /draw/
Black Hand ## Developer
I raised the file sizes a bit since it's not 2010 anymore.
Black Hand ## Developer
Made a big change with the file names which needs testing, I'm asking all the mods to check the beta board and test it out.
I'm always getting 'flood response detected' on mod's /baw/ but not /co/.
That's normal. Post speed is limited to 60 sec on /baw/ but 10 sec everywhere else.
I haven't posted yet today and I received that error when trying to post.
aaah, I see, I think I know the problem, I'll fix it tonight.
okay, fixed that issue. Since I changed the precision of the time field, the flood counter was now 100 times larger.
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Okay, here are two concepts for a new layout. Pic related is what I'm trying to cook up - a combination between the current design and the traditional imageboard layout. Note that this is an incomplete stylesheet, not a concept... it's missing a LOT of stuff (It's a rewrite from scratch), and I keep finding ways to improve it as I work on it.

And then there's this which I found in the board files:
This is an old design concept, that was being made by whoever was coding the site in the past (secret? anonex? I don't even know.). I think it has good ideas, but a lot of problems too.

This is what I'm working with right now. Thoughts?
Give us the option to make thread subjects we have to use the name field to make thread subjects.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
This this this.
Black Hand ## Developer
Adding thread subjects has been on my list since the beginning, but it is a surprisingly complex thing to add, and it involves digging into parts of the code that I intend to axe outright. Once a new skin is done, it will have subjects, but I haven't even began adding forms to it yet (the current post form is shit and needs to be rethought).
I reckon it looks far better with rectangular post boxes than the complex shape in that image. Looks like something out of Halo.
Black Hand ## Developer
Yeah, that's about the conclusion I came to as well.
However the traditional imageboard design dictates that the image of the first post is floating, so that part has to stay a complex shape - or have no background at all. I'm torn between trying to make the first post a different design and keeping it the same.
User 9
Could a rules page get put up somewhere?
Black Hand ## Developer
What rules?
There used to be 'rule 1) Don't be a dick' and subrules but honestly I don't think they really need to be spelt out
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Great, looks like we need a stronger spamfilter.
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I haven't seen any until just now so maybe it's just getting cleaned up before I see it.
Black Hand ## Developer
We do get more spam nowadays but I usually delete it very fast, since I use the RSS feed to get new posts. It is likely happening since we had to turn Cloudflare off due to a problem with the SSL, I don't know if Moose restored it since.
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WIP test. One step back, two steps forward... this will probably be the desktop version, while the mobile one has 100% wide blocks akin to the current design. I like the current fixed width design more, but I think people want the site looking like this instead, right?
That's pretty nice. I like it. I think it could look a little better with a few pixels more padding around the posts, but I'm not even sure because it's nice, compact and simple.
Black Hand ## Developer
Do you mean the padding between two posts, or the padding inside a post (around the post text)? I'm still fiddling with details like that.
I mean inside the post, between the text and the post border.
Need to do something about the bizarre asian bot
This. Luckily it's ineffective and predictable in delivery, but it's regular. Regex should hopefully stomp it, especially now that no-one uses the politics thread.
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Latest WIP. The threads' layout will be pretty much this. The popup label for the post hider and the file save icon will have their labels appear on the right, so they don't obscure each other. The hashtag is for making permalinks (and the post number was changed so it allows both permalinking and replying). Yes, the text is larger.

I did toy with replacing the icon pile with a single question mark icon, that you could hover over, and have all the icons appear in a small box, with their labels already opened next to them. But then it wouldn't be immediately apparent how you reply to posts. And having a question icon on each post looks silly. Tried a gear icon but it didn't look right either.

I'm not yet satisfied with the header, but I want to keep the current layout instead of copying what every imageboard uses. I'll likely put an options icon on the top right, symmetrical to the current home page icon. Link colours still need to be optimized.

Next up will be the reply box. Then a lot of javascript.
>The hashtag is for making permalinks
Doesn't the post number do that?

I personally think the boards button at the very top should have transparent background (or same colour as parent object). It's pretty nice though.
>Doesn't the post number do that?

Right now the post number permalinks, and the reply button makes a quoted reply.
On other chans, the "No." part in the post number permalinks, and the numbers themselves make a quote reply.
>I personally think the boards button at the very top should have transparent background

The style switcher in the footer also uses coloured buttons, the ideas is to make the links uniform.
Good point.
Status update: with the main post body being (mostly) done, I'm working on the post form. Right now the idea is to make one that looks like the current form but less buggy (for tablets and mobiles), and to have it pop up in a fixed position at the bottom so it is easier to multi quote (the post form persists in a fixed position so you can scroll the thread and click reply and type in).

I'll also do a more traditional imageboard style form. For the new traditional look, you'd want a traditional post box fixed in the right corner (by default), as that design isn't as wide.

One little detail is that you'll be able to control all of it from keyboard properly, including using the nsfw/spoiler buttons. And yes, post subjects will come back, or at least I want them to. I'll also drop that "toggle poster info" bullshit, all fields will be visible by default.
Happy birthday, 4chan.org
You suck now, but you will always hold a place in my heart.
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Thanks for reminding me why I don't go to 4chan anymore.

I swear, having fun is actually against the rules there.
Mister Twister
But what if....... complaining about 4chan makes you a hypocrite?
They just call it "Reddit humor" now.
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This list was compiled years ago. They are self aware.
Is there anything that /co/ still likes?
Mister Twister
Lots of things. But complaining and b8ing is a part of imageboard culture.
Not on 4chan, they have rules against it.
Mister Twister
Do you actually believe in those words? An unwritten rule is still a rule. Half the time people come to imageboards to complain about made-up non-issues and share porn.
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I think I misquoted you. I meant that "imageboard culture", as it was in the 00s when imageboards rose in popularity and allowed for discussions without bounds, is something that 4chan has rules against now. Which changed its culture completely, to that being of long-ass baiting posts, and bitching thread generals.
Mister Twister
Amazing screencap.
Holy shit, this place is alive again.
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we are officially undead at this point

I'd seen the bottom image before, but it's even better that way. For some reason I am always impressed by inter-thread jokes. It's the perfect amount of meta.
It comes and go as 4chan mods decide to ban half threads full of people having fun to assess their authority for a week.
fucking ipv6 piece of shit
last test
Black Hand ## Developer
Okay, IPV6 detection should be fixed now for good.
Black Hand ## Developer
I've added another filter to reduce spam, if you have problems posting, report it on IRC please.
Posting this image seems to give me a 500 error:
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Can't reproduce the error :(
Looks like they got the date of expiry wrong
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slowly coming along.
Mister Twister
>Spiderman engages in bondage
Sounds like an episode from the 90s cartoon, with how whey weren't allowed to do much violence, save for an occasional tackle and getting tired up.
Pete and MJ used to get up to web-play in the comics, or having sex on the walls and ceiling.
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I'm not sure about the details, but since the site came back, I've had issues with downloading images on my mobile device.
Can you describe this in more detail? What exactly are you doing that doesn't work the same? Do you mean the little download icon, or just images not loading?
If I attempt to save the images to my device, it just gets stuck in a perpetual loop trying too connect to the site and never begins to save.
This isn't the only site I've encountered the glitch on, but it isn't universal either.
again, what exactly are you doing? Which part of the site are you trying to click/tap? The little floppy icon? Or you expand the image and then try the right-click-save-image mobile equivalent?
Expand the image and attempt the right click equivalent.
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My only guess is that it either conflicts with the image expander, or with cloudflare on the server.

The redesign will use a slightly different expander code so it might fix it. Then again, it will still use the click event, so it might not. Unfortunately I can't reproduce your bug, so there's not much I can do.
4chan just became 4channel?
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fucking why?
anyone has the link to the discord chat?
No. Discord is killing imageboards.
Ask for it on IRC.
Could a /pco/ mod merge the MLaaTR pictures in:
into this earlier and more relevant thread?
I saw the characters XJ-9 (Jenny), XJ-6 and Vexus
also, there might have some /coq/ material in that second thread. I didn't check to make sure though...
The earlier thread stopped bumping so there's no point in merging.
I am planning to make a new thread now, linking to the old one. They can be merged into the new thread once I make it, I just thought the time difference might be an issue.
why not just bump the old thread? Wouldn't be the first necrobump.

mental note: threads need some indicator to show they are past the bump limit.
>why not just bump the old thread?
The old MLaaTR thread wouldn't bump before, possibly due to the post limit. That thread is not restricted to robots so bumping the robots thread doesn't quite solve the issue.
New MLaaTR thread at: https://boards.plus4chan.org/pco/t421096.html

Also that mental note is a good idea. Would re-using the anchor icon be appropriate?
Black Hand ## Developer
Attention, mods: please test image posting on the demo board. I rewrote it to use a different library, with a legacy fallback. Large file dimensions should not be an issue anymore (unless they are corrupt and force the legacy codepath), but I did not test it throughly with all image types.
Black Hand ## Developer
Fixed the reported bugs, please test again.
If no bugs are found, I'll move the changes to the live site.
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Okay, the new thumb parser is active. It should now be possible to post files with really large dimensions.
One change now is that thumbs are rather blurry instead of being sharpish to the point of being pixelated. I tried a few alternate methods but they all ended up 3-4x slower, so blurry it is I guess. It's better than the previous method which destroyed detail on b/w images, but it's a bit too blurry for my tastes.
Is there any simple way to choose the scaling algorithm? I would have thought that would be a choice you get in an image manipulation library/tool.
The bigger problem is the speed. If the default takes 1 sec to do but the slightly better one takes 3.5 sec, then I'd rather live with the blurrier thumbs.
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Curious: With the WebP format garnering wider support and its inclusion in Firefox as of FF65 (currently in beta), will plus4 add support for WebP images, both static and animated?
It would be easy to add, but it's very unlikely it will happen. Too many devices do not support it (all iphones, for example).
Black Hand ## Developer
The 2008-10 archives have been restored, back in their original url. I still need to make an index that points to all boards, and perhaps link up all the (still existing) boards to their archived versions. Until then, you can access them here:
The menus function, so you can check all the other boards from that link (/baw/, /co/, /coq/, /jam/, /mtv/, /tek/, /ck/, /coc/, /draw/, /writ/, /pco/, /cog/, /a/, /op/, /pkmn/, /n/). /sug/ has been lost to the sands of time, it only exists on the wayback machine now, but from what I see it didn't have much that is important, unlike, say, /coc/.

There might be a few missing files here or there. Please report any issues you find, and I'll see if they can be fixed as usual.
Meister Tweister ## VIP
Are you a russian hacker?
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
I'm mostly just a non-russian /baw/ mod
Hackers was the dumbest movie I've ever seen.
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Absolutely, but it did have some hilarious inaccuracies, fun quotes and an undeniable influence on hacker culture.
Even "I'll create a GUI interface in Visual Basic, see if I can track an IP address" is less stupid than Hackers.
Hackers (8/13) Movie CLIP - Hack the Gibson (1995) HDyoutube thumb
For me the absolute most hilarious scene in hackers was the part where the big bad extorts the floppy disc out of blondie, and they make the exchange in the dark of the night, while riding a skateboard next to a limousine.

It's just so surreal of a scene.
Black Hand ## Developer
The second batch of archives for the 2010-2014 boards has been restored, again back on their original URL:
/baw/, /co/, /cog/, /jam/, /mtv/, /coc/, /draw/, /diy/, the series specific boards /a/, /mspa/, /op/, /pkmn/, and the NSFW boards /pco/, /coq/, /cod/. Also the short lived /tek/,

Please keep in mind that these boards were, at the point of archival, infested with spam that I had to manually remove. Plus they had a very old html code (based on Kusaba imagebard) that I had to tweak a bit. Since there is no database to rebuild the boards from, this means that some threads may not show replies on the index pages. If there's any spam posts I missed out, or anything that doesn't work as expeccted, please point it out.

I'll build an archive index for them and put it in the announce later this week. After that, hopefully I can focus on finishing the new board template, which has been a long time coming now.

Happy new year, folks.
User 9
Thanks very much!

Unrelated: Who keeps removing my link to rave.dj, and do they think it's a spam site or something? Or is Ran Ran Ru combined with Sans Crab Rave just that bad a meme?
Black Hand ## Developer
I merged the last WIP version of the boards that I've been working on since summer. It had two small changes:
- One of the old board updates caused a handful of files to have their thumbnail size set to an extremely high value. This has been fixed. It only affected maybe 60 posts.
- all file names changed to use unix timestamp instead of md5. This was something I really hated on the current board.

The changes also include some stylesheet changes on the Catalog, which got updated as the new template is bering written.

If the catalog or frontpage looks broken, please empty your browser cache.

And as promised, here's the archives index:
Black Hand ## Developer
eating deleted them... I can't blame him, I would've thought it was spam too, if your username weren't there.
Yeah sorry, I mistook it for a spam link. My mistake.
User 9
Ah, no problem.
…. testing.
Oh, plus4chan is back? I thought it was dead for good last January.
Mister Twister
What part of "cursed to never die" is hard to remember?
>Oh, plus4chan is back?

We were never gone. Tell the others.
4chan is such trash now.

Barely recognize the boards I used to live on.

I'm just glad I got to experience it before the US election bullshit.
I'm happy that not many alternative sites are using Google captcha. That stuff is cancer. (I'm not keen on cloudflare either but it's tolerable.)
Yeah, I still visit it a week or so, but I struggle to find anything fun. Oddly, some of the super fast boards like /v/ are more enjoyable, simply because they are so fast that off topic stuff rarely gets deleted. Few months back they had a great thread on european comics for example.
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>Few months back they had a great thread on european comics for example.
Rare threads are the best (on topic or otherwise).
Are we going to need Subject fields for every post, or just thread starters?
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I claim these dubs in the name of Mars.
Isn't that lovely?
Black Hand ## Developer
See, that's funny because I accidentally screwed up the post numbering, so there will be a recount some time when I get around to do it.
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latest WIP. The improved quick reply alone will make this worth it, the current post box is difficult to use when quoting multiple posts.
Tablet views (1024px and lower) will use the current design (with bugfixes), and it will be fixed to the bottom of the viewport. However I need to test if that isn't too annoying on touchscreen devices, where the virtual keyboard pops up also from the bottom.
Myster Twyster
dIs anyone else having a problem when the click on the text boxes to replay to a thread its just flickering and not actually staying open?
I have to click on it and instantly type a letter to make it stay open so I can use it.

This might be potentially some problem on my end with my browser/hardware/etc and not the fault of the site itself.
Which OS / browser / browser version?

You could try clicking on the small arrow on the right, which will automatically quote a post, and then the box won't collapse as it will have text in it by default.
Windows 7, Google Chrome
Black Hand ## Developer
Should be fixed.
Yeah seems to be fine now.
Black Hand ## Developer
Thread image limits have been reinstated. Previously they did not work because of a bug (or rather, they kept getting reset to 0).

You'll know a thread is past the image limit when the attachment counter on the top is in italics. And of course if you get an error message when trying to upload.
Something wrong with the website?

Its taking ages to load for me, and its not my internet since everything else online is fine.
Something wrong with the website?

Its taking ages to load for me, and its not my internet since everything else online is fine.
Black Hand ## Developer
Looks like a DNS issue, I've contacted Autonymoose about it.
Black Hand ## Developer
Support has been added for "youtu.be" type youtube links.
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Cosmetic suggestion: add user-agent XJ-9 to allowed in robots.txt
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I thought about that, but the list would end up too long if I started naming the allowed robots one by one.
Black Hand ## Developer
I just noticed that sage is hidden & not recorded anywhere in the DB. This means that it's not even possible to restore the field on posts submitted with that. This vexes me more than it should.
I changed it so it is saved & displayed now. I've also reinstated it for the handful of posts where the poster was diligent enough to remember that sage goes in all fields.
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Played with the themes, and now it's stick like this. Deleting the cookies would fix this, but still a bug is a bug.
Meester Tweester
Nevermind, unclicking "I am gay" fixes everything.
Yeah, it's easy to mistake the button for a poll but it does affect the styling.
Myster Twyster
So yeah this mistake of a post now exists
I'm not sure why it was a mistake (wrong image?) but now it is gone.
Mostor Twostor
Posted in an autosaging thread.
Ahh, of course. I did notice that but never made the connection.
mental note: the site root has a placeholder index for some reason.
Black Hand ## Developer
Black Hand ## Developer
I've re-allowed jpeg files as thread starters, since it looks like spam is at an all-time low. Let's hope it stays that way.
Did it work? Are we that unpopular now ;_;

Does anyone remember what I posted here? mixtape.moe shut down due to abuse a while ago so the link died.
Black Hand ## Developer
I've increased back the file limit in threads, now it's the reply bump limit +50 everywhere. So once a thread stops bumping, you can still post a few more images. It was a mistake to set it lower than the bump limit since we predominantly have large threads.

We haven't gotten any spam for a long time now, so it's good. We don't have any regular posters either.
Thread-specific RSS feeds appear to be broken (I just noticed they were a thing but the link points to a 404).
Black Hand ## Developer
Thank you!
How can I create an imageboard?
Mistir Twistir
Want to make 8chan 2?

Unless you find at least ONE coder and a reliable server you can AFFORD, you're shit out of luck.
Black Hand ## Developer
Well, there's a trick to it, Andy. You mind if I call you Andy? Anyway, before I can tell you, I need to make sure you can keep a secret. Can you promise me you can keep a secret, Andy?
If you post it here, it will not be a secret anymore.
It might as well be. I would guess 10 unique posters this month for /baw/.
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Deleted one (1) spam on /co/
You go, girl!
Yah! 2 more and I earn the free hotpocket discount app
wait fuck this isn't /j/
Are the Mystery Box threads on /co/ getting deleted? What's the deal?
If you mean those cartoon voting threads, the thread author thinks they are not necessary once the voting is complete, so he deletes the threads afterwards. It has been going on like that for a while, and I think it's a shame because they post a lot of great images, but it's ultimately their choice.
Mester Twester
Mystery solved...
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Well, Twister, I'm glad you saved that Peppermint Patty image for all eternity because I didn't.
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Thank you, Anon
>Have been getting this error at random when trying to post images tonight

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator at webmaster@boards.plus4chan.org to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
It seems the new core puts more strain on the server, which causes this error (posting was entirely unchanged so the only thing that could conceivably affect it is server load). Fixing it is not that simple, for the moment anyway. Please just re-try if those errors pop up.
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Status check. I had little time to work on the new template, but I managed to sneak in a reply list field. You can see it here in the 2nd post.

The new template should have been done by now, but I got swamped with work since June and didn't have the time unntil recently. I'm slowly getting back to the codebase for now.
Black Hand ## Developer
As usual, the colours and styles are not final. I'll probably get rid of the borders, since they don't look right, especially when you open up an image that is wider than the container box.
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A year or two back, someone asked that they wanted a brown-coloured theme. Here's a preview from the WIP version of the new template. Mods can test it on the demo site, it should be feature complete, but the 503 errors prevent some images from being loaded at all times... I'll need to see if that can be fixed easily.
Moostor Twoostor
This looks classy, brown as in "brown polished expensive wooden furniture".
Requesting anchor on >>>/co/422641
What's an anchor
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A pirate ship accessory!
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Also this
Potential glitch: .mp3 didn't delete when removed from board. Possible cause is that the file was being played when deleted. See radio.
The underlying issue is a bit more complex than that, but the radio should not show those up anymore.

Also, please test the demo site as much as possible please.
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Will do, sorry about that.
Please also test it with javascript on. A lot of effort was put into a more usable quick reply, and I'm dreading that it'll have some bugs that will end up breaking the site.

also what c64 demo is that pic from?
JavaScript on? Ok.

No idea where it's from, just searched images for demoscene (source is avatar of https://twitter.com/demoscene)
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1680268133.44423800: end

SQL statistics:

time taken: 0.00064206 SELECT *, ( SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT `kobaboardban`.`boardid` ORDER BY `kobaboardban`.`boardid` SEPARATOR ',') FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `banid` = `id` GROUP BY `banid` ) AS `active_boards` FROM `kobaban` WHERE ( (`iplong1` = '03eefa49') OR (`iplong1` &lt;= '03eefa49' AND '03eefa49' &lt;= `iplong2`) ) AND `type` IN(-1,0,1,2,3) AND (`id` IN ( SELECT `banid` FROM `kobaboardban` WHERE `boardid` IN(1) ) OR `global` = 1) ORDER BY `type`,`expiration` DESC no rows found or affected (prepared query)
time taken: 0.00511193 SELECT p.*, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, s.total_posts, s.total_files, s.total_image, s.total_audio, s.total_video, s.total_swf, s.unique_ip, s.unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r on p.boardid = r.boardid and p.postid = r.postid LEFT JOIN `kobapoststats` s on p.boardid = s.boardid and p.postid = s.threadid WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND p.`postid` = '417543' AND `parentid` = '0' AND `deleted` = '0' UNION ALL SELECT p.*, r.time r_time, r.reason r_reason, r.ipmd5 r_ipmd5, r.ipcrypt r_ipcrypt, r.password r_password, r.userid r_userid, null as total_posts, null as total_files, null as total_image, null as total_audio, null as total_video, null as total_swf, null as unique_ip, null as unique_user FROM `kobapost` p LEFT JOIN `kobareport` r on p.boardid = r.boardid and p.postid = r.postid WHERE p.`boardid` = '1' AND `parentid` = '417543' AND `deleted` = '0' ORDER BY `parentid`,`postid` no error (prepared query)
time taken: 0.00048494 SELECT `boardid`, `parentid`, `postid` FROM `kobapost` WHERE (`boardid` = 1 AND `postid` IN(396676)) OR (`boardid` = 2 AND `postid` IN(422641)) AND `deleted` = 0 no error


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before_validation actions: 1 start: 1680268133.37415500 end: 1680268133.37417900 took (total): 0.000024
footer_meta actions: 9 start: 1680268133.44192600 end: 1680268133.44203000 took (total): 0.000104
header_meta actions: 5 start: 1680268133.40822500 end: 1680268133.40831300 took (total): 0.000088
setup_html actions: 4 start: 1680268133.40803500 end: 1680268133.40811900 took (total): 0.000084
validation actions: 1 start: 1680268133.37421000 end: 1680268133.40793100 took (total): 0.033721

Rewrite/redirect rules:

Redirect /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/0.html(?:\?.*)?$/ $matches[1]\/ 302
Redirect /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/1.html(?:\?.*)?$/ $matches[1]\/ 302
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/(\d\w*)s.png$/ /$matches[1]/thumbs/$matches[2]s.png
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/?(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/([0-9]*)\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=index&board=$matches[1]&pagenumber=$matches[2]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/catalog\.html(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=catalog&board=$matches[1]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/t([0-9]*)\.(html|json|rss)(?:\?.*)?$/ index.php?section=thread&board=$matches[1]&thread=$matches[2]&ext=$matches[3]
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/posts_feed\.rss$/ index.php?section=posts_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^([a-z_\-0-9]*)\/threads_feed\.rss$/ index.php?section=threads_feed&board=$matches[1]&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_posts\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_posts&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_threads\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_threads&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_nsfw_posts\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_posts&ext=rss
Rewrite: /^latest_nsfw_threads\.rss$/ index.php?section=latest_nsfw_threads&ext=rss

rules in htaccess format:

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2023-03-31 06:08:53