Why did it take so long? The old board software was buggy and did not scale with a large database, nor was it easy to add new sections to it. Because of this, a significant portion of the rendering had to be rewritten from scratch, combined with a lot of database and query optimization. This took a lot of trial and error. Once the new software was up and running, it replicated the boards near perfectly, but it did nothing else. So a little extra time was taken to add a few new features, and to fix some more old bugs.
There is still room for speed improvements (very little caching is done right now), but the new code was deemed good enough to go into production.
New features: - a frontpage. Also, lots of favicons. - RSS feeds. There are 7 in total: 4 on the frontpage, 2 on the index, and 1 for a thread. You can use the feeds to see new posts minutes after they are made, on any board, without needing to load the site every time. - catalog. The stylesheet for this is work in progress.
Feedback on the new features would be welcome.
bugs fixed: - any bug related to thread rebuilding, such as: - posts or threads remaining visible in the index after being deleted - new threads not being created immediately - old pages not updating - phrase banning is now fixed - ipv6 is handled now - a bug that reduced the maximum allowed image size on uploads (almost twice as big images can be uploaded now) - webm uploading is fixed - mp3 bitrates should be displayed properly now - youtube and vimeo embeds should be fixed (unfortunately this does not affect old posts, only new ones) and possibly others I forgot. It has been a long time.
Because I wanted a brown/“coffee”/“chocolate” color scheme, I went ahead and made a userstyle for plus4 so I could edit and test for a proper color scheme that doesn’t wreck my eyes. I used CSS variables to make switching colors out a far easier process.
The userstyle as it stands right now — https://pastebin.com/qR14R1Pn — only replaces the blue colors (which are commented out in the variable declarations), which leaves everything else untouched. If’n someone wants to use it for testing and creating a proper brown-hued color scheme for plus4, go nuts. (I prefer lighter text on darker backgrounds, but this was a spur-of-the-moment thing for me.)
>>417554 It is premature to write new styles; the index and thread templates will be rewritten (eventually). The catalog is a "sneak peak" of that, it runs on the new code (and uses practically no js). Of course, you are free to write your own user codes, just keep this in mind.
>>417579 I wasn't able to ban this one as it is outside my moderator boards. Should we ban people trying to use <a href> links who aren't moderators? It's pretty common in spam, and apart from admin posts I don't think anyone legitimate has tried to use them.
Okay, here are two concepts for a new layout. Pic related is what I'm trying to cook up - a combination between the current design and the traditional imageboard layout. Note that this is an incomplete stylesheet, not a concept... it's missing a LOT of stuff (It's a rewrite from scratch), and I keep finding ways to improve it as I work on it.
And then there's this which I found in the board files: https://boards.plus4chan.org/boardtop.png This is an old design concept, that was being made by whoever was coding the site in the past (secret? anonex? I don't even know.). I think it has good ideas, but a lot of problems too.
This is what I'm working with right now. Thoughts?
Adding thread subjects has been on my list since the beginning, but it is a surprisingly complex thing to add, and it involves digging into parts of the code that I intend to axe outright. Once a new skin is done, it will have subjects, but I haven't even began adding forms to it yet (the current post form is shit and needs to be rethought).
Yeah, that's about the conclusion I came to as well. However the traditional imageboard design dictates that the image of the first post is floating, so that part has to stay a complex shape - or have no background at all. I'm torn between trying to make the first post a different design and keeping it the same.
We do get more spam nowadays but I usually delete it very fast, since I use the RSS feed to get new posts. It is likely happening since we had to turn Cloudflare off due to a problem with the SSL, I don't know if Moose restored it since.
WIP test. One step back, two steps forward... this will probably be the desktop version, while the mobile one has 100% wide blocks akin to the current design. I like the current fixed width design more, but I think people want the site looking like this instead, right?
Latest WIP. The threads' layout will be pretty much this. The popup label for the post hider and the file save icon will have their labels appear on the right, so they don't obscure each other. The hashtag is for making permalinks (and the post number was changed so it allows both permalinking and replying). Yes, the text is larger.
I did toy with replacing the icon pile with a single question mark icon, that you could hover over, and have all the icons appear in a small box, with their labels already opened next to them. But then it wouldn't be immediately apparent how you reply to posts. And having a question icon on each post looks silly. Tried a gear icon but it didn't look right either.
I'm not yet satisfied with the header, but I want to keep the current layout instead of copying what every imageboard uses. I'll likely put an options icon on the top right, symmetrical to the current home page icon. Link colours still need to be optimized.
Status update: with the main post body being (mostly) done, I'm working on the post form. Right now the idea is to make one that looks like the current form but less buggy (for tablets and mobiles), and to have it pop up in a fixed position at the bottom so it is easier to multi quote (the post form persists in a fixed position so you can scroll the thread and click reply and type in).
I'll also do a more traditional imageboard style form. For the new traditional look, you'd want a traditional post box fixed in the right corner (by default), as that design isn't as wide.
One little detail is that you'll be able to control all of it from keyboard properly, including using the nsfw/spoiler buttons. And yes, post subjects will come back, or at least I want them to. I'll also drop that "toggle poster info" bullshit, all fields will be visible by default.
>>417859 I think I misquoted you. I meant that "imageboard culture", as it was in the 00s when imageboards rose in popularity and allowed for discussions without bounds, is something that 4chan has rules against now. Which changed its culture completely, to that being of long-ass baiting posts, and bitching thread generals.
>>417986 If I attempt to save the images to my device, it just gets stuck in a perpetual loop trying too connect to the site and never begins to save. This isn't the only site I've encountered the glitch on, but it isn't universal either.
>>417989 My only guess is that it either conflicts with the image expander, or with cloudflare on the server.
The redesign will use a slightly different expander code so it might fix it. Then again, it will still use the click event, so it might not. Unfortunately I can't reproduce your bug, so there's not much I can do.
Could a /pco/ mod merge the MLaaTR pictures in: https://boards.plus4chan.org/pco/t190693.html into this earlier and more relevant thread? https://boards.plus4chan.org/pco/t166844.html I saw the characters XJ-9 (Jenny), XJ-6 and Vexus
>>418082 >why not just bump the old thread? The old MLaaTR thread wouldn't bump before, possibly due to the post limit. That thread is not restricted to robots so bumping the robots thread doesn't quite solve the issue. New MLaaTR thread at: https://boards.plus4chan.org/pco/t421096.html
Also that mental note is a good idea. Would re-using the anchor icon be appropriate?
Attention, mods: please test image posting on the demo board. I rewrote it to use a different library, with a legacy fallback. Large file dimensions should not be an issue anymore (unless they are corrupt and force the legacy codepath), but I did not test it throughly with all image types.
One change now is that thumbs are rather blurry instead of being sharpish to the point of being pixelated. I tried a few alternate methods but they all ended up 3-4x slower, so blurry it is I guess. It's better than the previous method which destroyed detail on b/w images, but it's a bit too blurry for my tastes.
The 2008-10 archives have been restored, back in their original url. I still need to make an index that points to all boards, and perhaps link up all the (still existing) boards to their archived versions. Until then, you can access them here: https://plus4chan.org/boards/baw/ The menus function, so you can check all the other boards from that link (/baw/, /co/, /coq/, /jam/, /mtv/, /tek/, /ck/, /coc/, /draw/, /writ/, /pco/, /cog/, /a/, /op/, /pkmn/, /n/). /sug/ has been lost to the sands of time, it only exists on the wayback machine now, but from what I see it didn't have much that is important, unlike, say, /coc/.
There might be a few missing files here or there. Please report any issues you find, and I'll see if they can be fixed as usual.
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
>>418113 For me the absolute most hilarious scene in hackers was the part where the big bad extorts the floppy disc out of blondie, and they make the exchange in the dark of the night, while riding a skateboard next to a limousine.
Please keep in mind that these boards were, at the point of archival, infested with spam that I had to manually remove. Plus they had a very old html code (based on Kusaba imagebard) that I had to tweak a bit. Since there is no database to rebuild the boards from, this means that some threads may not show replies on the index pages. If there's any spam posts I missed out, or anything that doesn't work as expeccted, please point it out.
I'll build an archive index for them and put it in the announce later this week. After that, hopefully I can focus on finishing the new board template, which has been a long time coming now.
I merged the last WIP version of the boards that I've been working on since summer. It had two small changes: - One of the old board updates caused a handful of files to have their thumbnail size set to an extremely high value. This has been fixed. It only affected maybe 60 posts. - all file names changed to use unix timestamp instead of md5. This was something I really hated on the current board.
The changes also include some stylesheet changes on the Catalog, which got updated as the new template is bering written.
If the catalog or frontpage looks broken, please empty your browser cache.
>>418215 I'm just glad I got to experience it before the US election bullshit. I'm happy that not many alternative sites are using Google captcha. That stuff is cancer. (I'm not keen on cloudflare either but it's tolerable.)
>>418215 Yeah, I still visit it a week or so, but I struggle to find anything fun. Oddly, some of the super fast boards like /v/ are more enjoyable, simply because they are so fast that off topic stuff rarely gets deleted. Few months back they had a great thread on european comics for example.
latest WIP. The improved quick reply alone will make this worth it, the current post box is difficult to use when quoting multiple posts. Tablet views (1024px and lower) will use the current design (with bugfixes), and it will be fixed to the bottom of the viewport. However I need to test if that isn't too annoying on touchscreen devices, where the virtual keyboard pops up also from the bottom.
dIs anyone else having a problem when the click on the text boxes to replay to a thread its just flickering and not actually staying open? I have to click on it and instantly type a letter to make it stay open so I can use it.
This might be potentially some problem on my end with my browser/hardware/etc and not the fault of the site itself.
I just noticed that sage is hidden & not recorded anywhere in the DB. This means that it's not even possible to restore the field on posts submitted with that. This vexes me more than it should. I changed it so it is saved & displayed now. I've also reinstated it for the handful of posts where the poster was diligent enough to remember that sage goes in all fields.
I've increased back the file limit in threads, now it's the reply bump limit +50 everywhere. So once a thread stops bumping, you can still post a few more images. It was a mistake to set it lower than the bump limit since we predominantly have large threads.
>>418773 We haven't gotten any spam for a long time now, so it's good. We don't have any regular posters either.
>>419163 If you mean those cartoon voting threads, the thread author thinks they are not necessary once the voting is complete, so he deletes the threads afterwards. It has been going on like that for a while, and I think it's a shame because they post a lot of great images, but it's ultimately their choice.
>>419182 It seems the new core puts more strain on the server, which causes this error (posting was entirely unchanged so the only thing that could conceivably affect it is server load). Fixing it is not that simple, for the moment anyway. Please just re-try if those errors pop up.
A year or two back, someone asked that they wanted a brown-coloured theme. Here's a preview from the WIP version of the new template. Mods can test it on the demo site, it should be feature complete, but the 503 errors prevent some images from being loaded at all times... I'll need to see if that can be fixed easily.