Speaking of bad shit, one of the more well known cats at the rescue I volunteer at passed away last night. While it's unfortunate and those that had a connection to him will be heartbroken, overall this will be a net positive to the rescue. He had Cerebellar Hypoplasia, which really messed with his motor skills, and due at least in part to this he was quite cantankerous. Any cat or person that got too close to him, regardless of what they were doing or even if they were aware of his presence, would at least be growled at and, if he thought he could reach, scratched. His antics could put other nearby cats on edge, they might lash out, etc. He also couldn't clean himself well and required some non-standard things like a lower litter box, making more work for staff as well.

It sounds kind of cold-hearted, and I don't dare suggest this to those who are heartbroken, but things will be a bit better there now that he's gone.

I'm sick and tired of the social justice attitude of "If you're not with us you're against us"

>>393125
I'm surprised you associate said attitude with social justice.

>>393128
Mainly feminism.

>>393128
I don't think he believes Internet Activism is the only place that attitude exists.

>>393125
>>393129
Good luck finding any political direction where that does not apply. Terms like "rational", "open-minded", "freedom" or "justice" are effectively meaningless because believing your side to be the good guys by default is how humanity operates.

Why is it that any time someone tries to help me with my self confidence, I end up feeling worse than ever?

>>393129
Well its easy.
You either want equal opportunities for women or you don't.
Its pretty binary. There's no middle ground to that.

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

>>393137
pls don't do that "if you hold this basic and obviously correct idea, you're automatically a part of my political group" thing
it's kinda shitty
>if you believe that workers deserve their fair share, you're already a communist!
pls.

>>393138
Yeah, don't do bullshit like
>if you believe that people should be allowed to vote for their leaders, you're already a proponent of democracy!
Or
>if you don't believe there's a god, you're already an athiest
It's totally shitty to use the actual definitions of things rather than go along with whatever shitty baggage I either want to or have been convinced that I should assign to your political group by the political groups I belong to.

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger

>>393139
yes that is an exact parallel, a+ post, i read it

So between Russia, St.Louis, Iraq, Israel, and just about everywhere else just how long until the whole planet just says fuck it and quits.

>>393139
>use the actual definitions of things

Funny how this only ever seems to apply when it can be used to attack people.

Political groups generally believe that they represent the "actual definition" since everyone who kind of agrees with you except when they don't are obviously using the label incorrectly. Boling complex concepts down to one simple phrase of 'absolute truth' is a very handy excuse for discrediting anyone with beliefs similar but incompatible with your own, which inevitably turn out to actually be more complex than the simplified 'not one of us because' clause.

Political concepts don't exist in a vacuum. Trying to seperate them from their believers serves little practical purpose because the result is not something that exists in reality (reality is not simple and binary).

>>393143
I don't know how you are able to be so smug and so hypocritical at the same time. Boiling down complex concepts to a simple one for the sake of your own labelling is exactly what you're doing here--Feminism as a movement is a complicated one which includes many different subsets, all of whom are feminist groups but very few of whom represent Feminism in and of itself. And yet you are saying that Feminism as a whole should be judged based on whichever particular subculture of feminism you have decided to judge it on--which will, of course, always be the one that casts it in the worst light, because that's how the human mind works (and a more cynical person might point out--that is also the best way to maintain the status quo while maintaining plausible deniability as to how you're assisting in it).

>>393144
>Feminism as a whole should be judged based on whichever particular subculture of feminism you have decided to judge it on

No, that is not what I'm saying. In fact, it is generally impractical to judge any political concept "as a whole" because that requries examining their core philosophies - but political groups of one concept aren't a collective, so there will always be different interpretations of those philosophies that render such judgment meaningless because it does not represent reality.

A statement like "I am a feminist" is effectively empty, because there is no singular "feminism" - whoever you're talking to will either judge you based on their own biased interpretation of "feminism" or attempt to discern what beliefs you actually hold behind that label.

/co/ special:

Whenever I heard a voice in a cartoon, I remind myself that someone actually sounds like that IRL.

I want to die.

>>393160
Then you are missing the whole point of life. You don't move ahead if you quit.

>>393161
But it would be over.

>>393165
You need to remember why you were born in the first place. Get in touch with your subconscious mind.

Being in a healthy relationship is so refreshing, gosh darn. Even though we both have our issues, we can actually talk about them and try to resolve them without worrying about the other person hating us for it. I haven't had that in a long time.

>>393166
Can't speak for anon, but I was born because my parents wanted kids and did the horizontal bop.

This is not a compelling reason for me to continue my life.

So.

I actually feel good. For the first time in so long.

God I don't even want to gloat here I just wanna say
I got hired to do a design job for a concert here in the city. There's multiple artists involved, like Michiru Yamane, Power Glove, The Megas... and the headliner, for me, was MOON.
At random I actually got assigned MOON. I'm such a huge fan of the whole Hotline Miami soundtrack, and getting the standout? Holy fucking shiiiiiz.

I couldn't believe it! Aaaaugh I still can't believe it now, how someone getting random web artists would stumble on my work and say "hey I want you to make a concert poster for an artist you really like."
I'm so proud of myself for it. I'm looking forward to going to the gig!

And I like my poster so much. I like it so much guys you have no idea.

I could afford to go see GotG twice. In 3d. In english! Awh. I loved it so much the second time I saw it.
I'm sketching every day, too! I'm releasing the stuff daily on my twitter so I have at least a sense of commitment!

I feel better about my art than I've felt in so so long! I know I'm still sorta mediocre but I'm actually comfortable with the way I draw!

I wanna start working steady on comics. I wanna get me that steady gig at a local ad company, I want to do a full illustration at least a week.

And I can manage that.
I'm feeling so damn good right now.

I'm doing gooooood.

...
Now I just wish I could go for a workout at the gym. I'm getting flabby from all that peezz.

>>393171
Thanks.

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

Everything seems so fucked. I can't get a job, I'm stuck in my mom's basement, I've lost contact with most of my friends, I'm sick consistently, I don't eat anything but dry spaghetti, and I can't even come up with a fun new thought to entertain myself.

I have never felt more at home.

Jesus Christ, I had no idea that when Obama talks about ANYTHING he causes political FISSURES.

>>393175
I assume that last part is sarcastic. If you're in good standing with your mom, I would try to get her to cook for you (assuming she can cook). Eating only dry spaghetti is bad for multiple reasons. Proper food => better immune system => better health => job => friends.

>>393177
"Fissure" puts it mildly, especially if you watch Fox News.

>>393177
Of course he does. Half the national government has made it their platform to oppose anything he says or does regardless of whether it would work or not. In fact, there are a fairly large number of people within the national government who oppose the entire idea of a national government, and intentionally sabotage its efforts so as to "prove" that it doesn't work. In the same sense that you can "prove" that a boat is unsafe by setting it on fire.

>sadness to the point of crying manly tears
>"Hey I know what'll cheer you up"

stop plz

>>393192
>gets taken to strip club
>gets booty shaken in face
>allowed to touch

no stop wtf

>>393171
Is he ever coming back? I never talked to him outside of +4. We don't have CP spam anymore.

Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>393190
The last part was not at all sarcastic. Most people assume I'm sarcastic all the time, though. It's been a problem for most of my life. Also, I can cook for myself. I'm a decent cook, but only bother to do so for other people.
>>393193
While insensitive, you'll be just as sad tomorrow regardless of the amount of ass-face time. So, learn to appreciate it.

hey guys guess what

>>393207
Whats up?

i can edit posts now. whoa!!! look out!!!

just kidding i wont edit your posts..........or will i

>>393199

probably not, hes too busy being cool+literally nightwing

>>393209
uh oh
oh jeez

dont defile my posts nnnoooDISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

>>393199
He's on feisbúk occasionally.

>>393212
>
>He's on feisbúk occasionally.

Well that makes two of us.

Not that I have him added or anything. Oh well, maybe he'll swing by later. This place needs some life.

>>393226
Were it not for bea popping up just now, I'd say this place has been abandoned by the old guard otherwise known as the cool people.

Have you ever stopped and thought maybe the world might be a better place if the internet didn't exist?

>>393238
The world was perfectly capable of being shitty for all of existence before the Internet.

>>393238
>the world might be a better place if the upper class had an easier time getting away with infinite lies

Pick up a history book some time.

The sun...it is hot....so damn hot. Go away sun...just stop being hot.
I am so weak against sun. Work during the day is bullshit. There where clouds, but the sun moved them out of the way.
Wow can you normal people stand it?! Because you guys are freaks who love Suns! Hours of work outside burns me! I think sun poisoned my brain. It would have...jerk sun.
I'll make revenge on you sun!
So hot and tired.

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ

>>393245
Chlorophyll, bro. lrn2plant

>>393232
i wish secret would hang around more

I'm better now.

>>393246
Well that explains everything. It all makes sense now.

>>393257
Chaplain Larry Tremaine = Groot is what I'm saying.

I wrote a fanfiction.

I shouldn't feel proud but I do.

>>393262
What's it about, anon?

Do they bump uglies in it?

Your fortune: Better not tell you now

>>393262
You created something. Did you create it skillfully?

//youtube.com/watch?v=pZZkqqc5uXM

>>393276
Oh yeah, I've seen a bit of it before.
Who's the girl with the horn?

>>393265
Nah, it's not a lewd story and suddenly everyone's interest was lost.

>>393267
I'd certainly like to think so. If I thought it was shit I wouldn't feel proud of it.

>>393283
>colon cancer charity
Cool, my thesis work revolves primarily around that and my lab could use some of that sweet dosh. Let's hope it's worth its salt and doesn't just cruise around on its brand the way the Komen foundation does.

>>393287
You're kidding.

Tell me you're kidding.

Please tell me that's a joke.

>>393288
Rumor is the site was hacked to make it look like that was the case.

>>393289
I hope so.

Fucking Phil Fish.

Well. We'll just see how it goes.
Can't do anything at toss point.

>Tina Fey posts ice bucket challenge video
>Has a little girl pretend to be her and get the water dumped on her head
>Leans in at the end and says she's just going to donate
>Comments full of people accusing her of cheating

I don't think people actually know or care how this is supposed to work, they just like watching celebrities/women in white t-shirts dump water on themselves.

>>393296
Honestly I think the ice bucket challenge is kind of dumb. I mean, it's great that they're raising money for charity, but dumping icy water on themselves is just sort of boring. Sure it's really cold but it's not that big of a deal. I just don't get the entertainment value it seems to have for people.

>>393297
You DO know it's supposed to replicate the feeling of the advanced stages of Lou Gehrig's Disease.

>>393296
>Comments full of people accusing her of cheating

Man, if charity is the end goal and she still gave money, who cares if she "cheated"? I think some people are losing sight of what matters here.

>>393300
Because people see entertainment as a cost for giving charity, and not the other way around. There's no such thing as donations anymore, people expect something in return. It's sad.

I always feel a bit weird for following female cosplayers on Facebook. They seem like great people, they're super hot, and they have great costumes (that they're super hot in) but I don't know them at all so even though they have a fan page that anyone can Like/Follow, I can't help but feel I'm peeping in their window at night from my window across the street...

>>393304
If they've got a fanpage for people like you to follow then you can think of it as peeping in their window while they yell "FREE PEEP SHOW" to the neighborhood.

Obviously they're fine with it.

I just remembered how much I fucking hate mirrors.

In all honesty, mirrors are useful and are pretty awesome, but on the rare occasions that I cry, I can't fucking stand seeing them.

Your fortune: Very Bad Luck

>>393310
1) Mirrors are terror incarnate
2)Why you crying?

>>393313
I just had to let it all out. A bit of family issues happened and I just felt like I needed to baw. It's been like half a year or something since I last cried, and that shit just hits you like a wave. It's all cleared up now, so that's good.

>>393316
Literally who?

>>393322
Frank Miller.

>>393316
HOLY FUCK WHAT THE HELL?

Like I knew Miller was in free fall creatively and as an artist but JESUS, now I wonder if his creative decline has been the result of a health decline.

It's like he peeked into the Ark of the Covenant.

>>393326
Hasn't his creative freefall been going on since 2001? It seems like it's just a result of old age and 9/11.

>>393329
He's only 57.

Though you are right 9/11 ruined the shit out of his brain.

>>393332
That man is only a few years older than my dad but he looks like his own father.

God damn.
Has he been to the doctor lately?

>>393333
>>393332
>>393329
Rumors say cancer.

>>393335
No doubt caused by radical Islam!

(sorry, I've been reading up on him, holy shit he turned into a dirtbag post-9/11)

Man, I will never be able to draw cute girls and it's eating me up inside. Scraggly old bums? No problem! People with horrifying deformities? Sure! Mutilated burn victims? Fun! But tell me to draw a cute girl and the horrifying abomination I put to paper will haunt our dreams forever. Fuck my life.

>know a beautiful girl on campus
>she always acts very cold and intimidating
>hard to be friends with her when she puts up a shell like this, although she can be very cute and funny
>stumble upon her blog
>see how she really is on the inside: depressed and lonely, a hopeless romantic, hates herself and is also a kissless virgin
>pretty much exactly how I am, only she's drop-dead gorgeous
>has had many of the same experiences I have too, and the same feelings about said experiences
>realize me being put off by her cold nature is exactly the same way people react to mine
>she's not even a SJW type, or a Christian
>can't stop thinking about her now

Help me, /baw/. How do I ask her out? She doesn't know me that well and she definitely won't open up to just anybody.

>>393345
Well, how would a stranger ask you out to get you to go along with it?

I'm really starting to feel as if I don't fit in anywhere. I can't hold conversations with people (Internet or Outernet), I'd have little to say even if I could, and I just seem to feel "better" when I'm disconnected from others.

>>393351
I dunno, revolvers are pretty kid safe. It was what i learned on as a wee lad. Part of the reason was that my thumb wasn't long enough to cock the hammer properly, so I had to hand it back to dad to get it ready to fire again.

Referring to pic only.

Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>393353
What do you do, so disconnected? In your head, I mean.

>>393355

I don't feel pressure to keep up a personality/persona/image/whatever when I'm alone. That's a huge goddamn comfort, especially considering my looks (hoo boy do I need a ton of dental work and scar removal) and my lack of an actual personality beyond "whiny bitch".

If you have a problem, talk to me directly about it. Don't call the fucking management. Why do people do this?

>>393358

People hate face-to-face confrontation.

>>393358
They get some sense of superiority because they "manipulated" those more powerful to do their bidding. Also >>393359.

Your fortune: Excellent Luck

>>393356
Self-consciousness is a bitch.
>>393358
I don't know you well enough to trust that you won't do something to poison me if we just keep this between us?

>>393365

>Self-consciousness is a bitch.

Goddamn right it is.

>>393367
Okay, you need to seriously take a step back and stop putting this woman on a pedestal. She is just an ordinary woman who you happened to be attracted to and with whom you happened to feel you were compatible. That is it. This is not the end of the fucking world. It is at worst a minor setback, and at best it is permission for you to find someone even more compatible with you.

Break out of this scarcity mentality and stop thinking you've found the One before you've even kissed her. You are torturing yourself for nothing.

Writing while high is pretty great.

>>393371
It is while you're high.

Then you gotta edit sober.

You'll swear never to try that again.

...
Which mean's you'll do it again in a week.

So I've for the second time now realized that for the majority of my life, I've always been the one who initiates contact or relationships with people. People do respond to me, albeit slowly sometimes, but I've almost never had someone contact me of their own volition to talk or ask me something.

Maybe I'm just being an emotionally needy loser and this is how most interpersonal relationships are?

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again

>>393375
Why would they? You have all those friends. You're probably busy.

>>393395
But that hurts my neck. Let's just meet in the middle and have the short people sit on my lap.

>>393397
I'll still become compost for some flowers.

Ugh, I knew this would happen eventually. My mom wanted to do dinner tonight but I'm in no mood so I just said no. She asked if it was because or because I didn't want to and I was truthful. Then she said she'd stop by later to show my sister the house but wound up not doing it, and when she called to let me know she wasn't coming she said "I moved to Colorado to see you". Except that I thought she moved to Colorado so my dad didn't have to deal with Iowa pollen, but whatever.

I liked it when I had two states between myself and any of my family. Made it real easy to avoid going to anything. Now that they're a half hour away, with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up I'll probably just have to come out and say "Spending time with you is not good for me." I don't want to make them sad, but I don't want to spend time with them more.

>>393397
So would successfully breaking that be something to be proud of just because it's such an apparently difficult thing or something? Given the amount of mutation that's occurred int hat time, I wouldn't really call it successful unless I also consider it unbroken as long as life vaguely resembling me passes on its own genes.

>>393397
This is kinda bullshit, there's no guarantee one of my ancestors wasn't adopted.

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger

>>393404
I want you to think very hard about where adopted people come from.

>>393405

Cabbage patches, right?

"just" is such weird word as non-native speaker. It feels so loose, for a lack of better words.

Someone pointed to me to http://www.7cupsoftea.com/ when I was saying how depressed I was a few weeks ago, and now I'm feeling exceedingly depressed (in part because I've made the decision to return my cat) and was just looking at that.

I haven't actually tried to talk to someone, but I'm looking at the quick list of profiles and am less than impressed. I know that they work in part because they have a lot of free volunteers, but there just seems to be a heavy social-network angle. Or maybe that's intentional since it's about "active listening"? I don't really see a point in posting your photo or your hobbies (maybe it helps people connect?) Part of the reason I don't go in depth with anyone about my shit is because I don't want to potentially weigh down some random person with my shit; and even though these folks have essentially volunteered I'm still worried about somehow harming them by unloading myself. I'm very good at rationalizing my internal fears and hatred.

>>393423
You could try 7 Cups of Tea, despite all I said. I'm still thinking about giving it a shot myself.

>>393429
Forgot to mention, I don't want to deal with people who will respond "Don't worry, you're amazing, you're a good person, you'll be fine!" Because that's complete bullshit and they will just make me more disgusted with the human race.

>>393430
You're probably a piece of shit, but that is what the site is for in the first place, so don't worry about it.

Someone explain to me the Arthur "He does it for free" meme to me, because I don't fucking watch Arthur and I was apparently absent from 4chan when it became popular.

>>393429
>>393430
Hobbies are where it's at, if anything I'm hurt from not hearing more about them. Being able to talk to someone about a human/computer language hybrid would be considerably sweet.

Anyone who works at my Uni is either a total asshole or total bro.

>>393449
Look on the bright side; at least you have bros.

I started taking iron pills and now my piss literally looks like Mountain Dew.
Maybe somebody could incorporate this into a prank...

>>393454
oh fuck I just regurgitated a pill after it was half digested. It tastes like powdered rust and a dash of salt.

After watching a video, episode, or a movie, I would often think in the voice of the characters. Anyone the same?

Yeah, I don't really have a solid idea of how I sound, so my voices tend to be pretty arbitrary.
Also tend to remember things in first-person perspective, and when I don't I often switch to a cartoon view of some sort where people are substituted by various characters.
Usually tend towards villains and other cynical, reckless characters.

>>393456
Yeah, if the voice is really captivating. Rarely do I read anything in my own voice.

And my depression just kind of fades away. It's as though I didn't spend the last four days in a severe pit of self-loathing and angst, to the point of missing work yesterday.

Maybe I should give up masturbation for a bit. I'm not that into it anymore, anyway, it's just a thing to do and gives some brief respite from the depression. Perhaps a nofap challenge would boost my interest... At the least, after a week or so I would have a ballin' good romp.

>>393462
Have you talked to a shrink? Could be bipolarism.

>>393117
Oh my god I'm so hungry all the time!
I always get these cravings for either Carl's Jr or gyros or pizza and its just
ugh impossible.

I'm just craving a big meal all night
Its worse when I can probably only afford a lunch like that only once a month fuck

>>393463

Oh oh... that's what killed Robin Williams. That and coke.

>>393466
He was clean when he died, though.

>>393463
>Have you talked to a shrink?
Can't afford one.

>>393464
I'd suggest stir fry or something else cabbage-based, but I found that tends to not be all that filling despite being huge.

>>393474
You know, I almost did that, except it was less cutie patootie and more "I don't know if this is a crush or just fear that she'll kill everyone with her bare hands at any moment now." Probably the latter.

Though really, learn how to cook. If anything, asking her to teach you is an excuse to spend time together.

You know what I always found weird? Teleportation in movies and TV today is done with flashy special effects. But in the 60s, with shows like Batman and Star Trek, if there was ever something that appeared or disappeared in front of someone, it just popped up right there. No effect, no nothing, just a simple frame cut and a sound effect. Which is a lot closer to how it would probably be in real life.

I think there'd be some effect from air being displaced.

Also, why do Bistros say it's easier to make tiny portions look cool if it's so hard to cook meals at home for only one or two people?

One day, faggot will stop being 4chan's go-to word.

What word will replace it?

>>393484
I was actually thinking about their use of "faggot" the other day.

I don't think they use the word purely as a means of insulting, but rather as a means of exclusion. If some delicate flower, unaware of 4chan's nature (or even someone who has heard stories but not encountered it themselves), happens to wander into /b/ or /v/ and see "faggot" being thrown around everywhere and "-fag" being the most prolific suffix ever, they'll almost certainly be offended and run off. If they stay long enough to post and chide the users for using the word, they'll get a torrent of hate and death threats heaped upon them, causing them to leave (unless they're a rare and particular brand of stupid).

This is subconscious; "faggot" has become the secret password to get into their base, but one that everyone knows and they don't care. It's not about giving the password, it's about reacting to it. Did someone call you a fag and you just rolled your eyes? Congrats, you're in. If you balked, you should go find a hug box like reddit, there be dragonfags here. It's even taken on a kind of badge of honor ("It's okay, I'm taking porchmonkey back") in that if you refer to or accept yourself as a tripfag or just fag in general it displays your assimilation into 4chan, to the point that there are some posts where you could substitute "bro" for "fag" and not change the meaning of the post.

Certainly at some early point it was used as a way to offend someone, and did actually offend people, but its proliferation over time has turned it into nothing more vile than a normal person calling another normal person "idiot".

So, to answer your question: 4chan will stop using "faggot" everywhere once it's no longer a word abhorred by society. They will replace it by whatever word the community decides is the most offensive to normal people at that time. This won't be an overnight transition of course, but you'll see the frequency of "faggot" steadily drop as the new word, let's say "bumbletwat", gradually increases.

>>393485
Not to mention half of the uses of it these days are neutral to positive. Most people just treat it as a tag of affiliation, like calling someone a Mewtwofag, Kamiyafag, or Nasufag, where any positive or negative connotations come from the identification preceding "fag" and implications of sycophancy/support rather than the term "fag" itself. It's become a shibboleth for how thick- or thin-skinned a person is and whether they're ready to participate. Some people use it specifically to be hateful, but even then half the time it's only jokingly so and outside of blatantly political boards like /pol/ and /r9k/ or blatant contrarian trollis, the general attitude towards gays is pretty ambivalent. While there are a lot of real reasons to criticize current 4Chan culture, claims of homophobia are mostly hyperbole.

>>393485
>>393486
And what will replace it in 10 years?

Provided the site survives for 10 years and m00t won't sell it to the russians.

>>393488
Obv. we'll all be anarchists and use "government" as an insult.
>How's it going? I just joined here and it sure is a wild board.
>Get out of here , government.
>What did you call me? You don't just go around calling me government, it's not polite!
>Oh, look who's forcing demands on me. JUST LIKE A GOVERNMENT.
Also, being sold to Russians didn't seem to hurt Livejournal, its popularity was just already waning, so I don't think it'd hurt 4chan.

>>393486
It's funny because half the time I see shit like
>Not wanting to put your dick in another guy and have hot sweaty mansex? What are you, some kind of a faggot?
I have a really dumb sense of humor like that.

holy crap i might actually want to kill myself.

>>393492
Whoa, geez dude. Take a breather and get to bed.

>>393492
There are hotlines for suicide prevention. You really need to call one of them now if you even think it's a little possible that's how you feel--random internet goblins may not be as much help as a genuine person who's been trained in this stuff.

>>393492
>>393494
Yeah, what he said.
I don't want you to kill yourself, dude, depression's a motherfucker and I'd hate to see the douche win.
But man, I can only do so much.
Call them peeps. They'll know what's up.

I fear I might sound like a pompous arrogant douche, but the feeling of intellectual inferiority is an incredible, humbling experience. And yet I have never encountered it once when talking to people on the internet, which I've been doing for more than a decade now. I guess that says something. Either about the quality of discourse, the general self-perception of its users or both.

>TVTropes is cutting all instances of Fan Dumb, Hate Dumb, Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch, Political Correctness Gone Mad and so on
Jesus christ they keep taking away all the fun stuff. Now people can't even call out the bad people in fandoms for being bad because it might hurt someone's feefees. Especially since social justice warriors have gone from an isolated Internet annoyance into a legitimate problem and nobody can crticize them for the blatant untruths, false conclusions, and scientifically or historically wrong statements (Saami and Socrates being POC, painting white antiracists as racists, etc.) they keep making.

>>393495
Different anon, but I've called and its very helpful.
That is all.
I don't have much else to say.

>>393498
...you'll notice however that you are complaining about no longer being able to complain about fandoms on a site that's supposed to be about examining the building blocks of stories, right? Bitching about not being able to whine about SJWs on TV Tropes is like bitching about not being able to bitch about your shitty Ikea furniture on /v/.

>>393500

If they're getting rid of all the Darth Wiki stuff, they should get rid of the Sugar Wiki shit, too.

>>393501
They don't appear to be getting rid of the Darth Wiki. They appear to be getting rid of the "Complaining about subcultures you're not part of" stuff. As far as I'm aware there isn't a matching "Talk about how awesome X fandom is" trope.

Even if there were, I'm not sure why everyone feels like there always needs to be a balance of vitriol and celebration. Is it really so offensive to the 4chan mindset that some places have a net positive outlook rather than the endless stream of negativity that every other site on the internet wallows in?

Actually one of the things they just got rid of (Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch) is actually about complaining about haters of series who criticize them for the wrong reasons. It's not for complaining about fans or SJW, it's for complaining about the haters. Some of which will be SJW who bash a game they never played because of fake rumors that it's racist, but plenty of these entries are about racists who hate a game just because it has a black or female main character no matter how good it is. And that's a valid thing to be aware of.

They also bombed all entries of the Real Women Never Wear Dresses and Het Is Ew tropes despite the fact that people mostly used them to criticize the extreme misogyny that can take place in many fandoms. Sounds like very useful information for me to know when getting into a series, and hell, reading through those entries have made me become a much better feminist. Getting rid of them because they're too negative sounds like sugarcoating to me.

>>393498
Jesus, anon, quit your whiny bitching.

I want to turn off emotions

And I want control over people so be o not having emotions hurts them

I want a bit of meaning on my life

I want to disappoint someone... Or rather... I want to have the power to disappoint and make someone sad... But I don't.... Because I care. And that someone cares

God damn I want my death to mean something when it happens. I want the god fucking stock market to crash
I want to leave people devastated and horrified at the idea of my death

But mnope

I can't have nuttin

>>393504
>And that's a valid thing to be aware of.
In what sense? How is it relative to the discussion of the building blocks of stories to bitch about the fact that (NEWS FLASH!) the internet has a bunch of horrible people on it?

Your fortune: Outlook good

I got into a fight with my mom. The crux of the disagreement was whether or not I should feel bad about being a terrible person.

So ends my adventures in pet ownership. And one of the things I thought would bring me some happiness...

>>393506
>I want to disappoint someone...
I was right beside you until this. I feel I've disappointed everyone and so deserve my self-loathing.

Plus4chan: it's like Wizardchan, but even more depressing and pathetic.

Someone make that a banner.

Please don't. Wizardchan is shitty and shouldn't be uttered in the same breath as +4.

I want to like things again. At this point the only things that bring me reliable pleasure are certain foods, and even foods I used to love have started to fade in their luster. If this continues, I'll be relegated to eating only the greasiest, most sugary of foods in a sad and ever more fruitless attempt to enjoy something, anything in life.

How do I like things? Difficulty: Clinical depression.

>>393552
Go to therapy.

>>393553
Yeah, I probably should. I just don't have money for it; I keep meaning to call my insurance to see if they might cover anything but always forget when they're open...

>>393554
There are free therapy groups. And universities usually offer therapy sessions for far less than normal, especially if you're a student.

>>393555
Therapy in a group doesn't sound like a good idea. I'm an expert in rationalizing my negative views; I would be concerned about negatively affecting others who are already in bad places themselves.

I wouldn't be against therapy through a university program. I'll have to see if the nearby University has such a program.

>>393559
>posting that conversation on the same site you just linked to

//youtube.com/watch?v=K2v-8ctq5x4

Oh boy, here come the onslaught of remember 9/11 Facebook posts.

>>393568
Well, it is Patriot day.

I think it's a good time to share this video I saw yesterday:
//youtube.com/watch?v=04SEzifEsGg

>>393581

>only a Sith deals in absolutes

Doesn't that phrase itself count as an absolute (‘only one type of person deals in absolutes’) and, thus, makes anyone who says it a giant hypocrite?

Mr. Stone, I think you posted in the wrong thread.

>>393583
Words are never to be taken literally.


Many of the artists I follow say and do stupid things online. I am tempted to tell it to them, but afraid of making them angry (as artists always get).

plustumblr's a mini shitstorm tonight

can i crash here for a while

>>393596
sure.

would you like to help me out and commission some art?

>>393597
i don't have a penny to my name but if you have a website i'd be happy to promo

Your fortune: Average Luck

I don't currently see any potatoes, and I'm not sure brains are trustworthy enough to tell me that potatoes are real with any certainty, but I'd like to imagine I will eat french fries in the future.

Your fortune: Very Bad Luck

>>393613
Update: There were.

/baw/, I'm looking for a very specific music video. One I can't seem to find through google due to my limited knowledge. I only remember seeing when someone here, mighta been Jane something, did a livestream of The Hangover, the first one, and it was used as filler when the movie ended. It was something about shadow puppets and I think it may have been in Japanese. The only thing I can clearly remember is that the final shadow puppet was a dancing person. This was at least four years ago.

Please help, only a few lyrics remain in my memory and they keep looping and it's become somewhat irritating.

Went through my finances and worked out a budget. I have exactly $0 to spend on therapy. Even if my insurance covers something, they won't cover everything.

More irritating is that I posted that info on Facebook, and my mom's response was "Time to get creative!"

I just don't know how to explain it to her (and my dad) without making them heavily upset. No, it's not time to be creative. I haven't been creative in years. I am depressed and get no lasting joy. Before long I'll probably get no joy period. Finger painting or a fucking self-help book or reading how to meditate is not going to fucking solve this. I need counseling, and maybe medication, and certainly a change of venue because helping them out by moving into their house was the wrong fucking answer.

Considering my up/down schedule I could wake up as early as tomorrow, but probably late Tuesday or early Wednesday, heavily depressed, and this new information is not going to make that spell any easier to trudge through.

>>393620
>"Time to get creative!"
I thought we all agreed to never be creative again.

How many longtime posters on this site happened to be accomplished members of the STEM fields? All I remember is that Ferrous was a grad student of some sort. Possibly Ninja, as well, but I remember them being uncommunicative if not downright passive aggressive, so I know they won't help me here.

And yes, I know that Ferrous developed some weirdass issue with posting on this site itself and swore it all off or something along those lines. I just want to know how to contact the guy,

My give-a-fuck meter is completely broken today.

I consider myself somewhat intelligent. Not a genius, but fairly above average. But for some reason I fucking hate puzzles with a passion. I just don't have the patience for this contrived fucking bullshit waste of time. And then people look at me weird, because I'm the "brainy guy" and tell them I hate puzzles.

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

I'm working toward building up good habits and positivity, but I have to wonder when it will start to feel authentic rather than just forcing down my real self.

>>393625
ferrousfellow.tumblr.com
>>393636
Exercise is impractical, don't run with the bulls.

My parents gave me $400 so I could go see a doctor to get something in progress. I'm very torn about this; I definitely need to see someone about my depression, but part of the depression stems from seeing myself as a burden on others. Getting money from my parents, who have financial issues now and then themselves, does not help this part.

Now we have to see if I can get it together to actually set up an appointment.

>>393638
To cure depression, talk to someone wise.

Doctors are not wise, they have a PHD.

>>393638
Thats exactly the sort of thing you need to talk to a therapist about, dude.
Best of luck.

>>393639
The doctor is the first step. If I'm to make that money count, I need to go through the whole bullshit of referrals to make my insurance (which is bare-minimum) do anything in the way of helping money-wise. Plus, I still have a dozen or so citalopram from the last time I was taking meds; it's a bad idea to start those on my own, but the doc could give me the all clear and a refill/new prescription. The meds might help me out until I can get regular therapy underway.

>>393641
Thanks

>>393642
What I was trying to say is that there are people who understand the human soul better than any psychotherapist, who may see humans as mere biological machines. Me mum, though not a doctor, helped me and my sisters a lot when dealing with emotional issues.

To summarize, you need to understand your mind. How is it put together? Despite the popular opinion, only you can fully understand yourself. After that is done, figure out what depression IS, and where it is coming from. Then, you could neutralize it, like a mental infection (which is what depression is).

That was my personal experience. But I think it works for everyone. The most important part, aside from "understanding yourself", is to realize that your negative emotions are not a part of your mind, but a virus, a destructive force that needs to be driven away. Don't cherish your doubts and fears; fight and destroy them, like your body would fight and destroy a disease.

>>393646
My depression comes from a heavy view of self-worthlessness, unrestrained pessimism, no sense of purpose or goals or desire. I've lost the ability to really like things; it's not that my tastes have changed, just that they've disappeared. The only things that give me any heavy enjoyment are only things that appeal to my baser instincts: masturbation, fatty/greasy food, and a good kill in TF2. But any pleasure I get is fleeting, and more often than not leaves me empty inside afterward.

In short, I've no interest in anything, including myself. If I haven't been able to "fix" myself by now, after 10 years of introspection about it, I'm not going to, at least on my own.

I'm not trying to deride your experience, and I'm glad it worked for you, but it is not going to work for me.

>>393649
>My depression comes from a heavy view of self-worthlessness, unrestrained pessimism, no sense of purpose or goals or desire.
Those are symptoms, not the cause.

>>393649
Those feelings of worthlessness - its how depression works, man.

You try and find a reason for your sadness.

>>393624
Secret isn't really a regular or anything but he's some kind of engineer or industrial designer if I remember right.

…I really need to get my shit together.

Your fortune: Good Luck

>>393657
Yes.

I am trying to give up 4chan. I am thinking I might start coming here again so as not to try cold turkey again. Anyone still around from like 5 years ago? I only see a few names I know and this place changed a lot.

>>393671
I *only* go on the How's Your Webcomics thread on /co/.
People say the board hasn't really changed in several years, but... man I don't buy it.
Its just not pleasant for me, personally, anymore.

>>393672
I really cannot remember a time in the last few years that I enjoyed a thread on /co/. It has just become a waste of time and energy for me. I think I need a change of pace.

It really looks like +4 has slowed down a bit compared to when I used to visit here more often a few years back.

>>393672
Yeah, I would say /co/ is significantly different than it was 4 years ago, I remember when /co/ made jokes about company wars and feminism.

>>393674
Yeah, /co/ really was the leader in the "Women in Comics need to improve" position back when.
Amazing how contrarian they've generally gotten.

>>393671
The boards had some rough patches over the past two years. There was also a month where the site was completely unusable last year. We had a rash of CP spam Jan of this year that drove a lot of people away, even though it was only on /baw/ (for some reason) and a pharma spambot hit all of the boards regularly. The CP is what led to these new boards (also banning Ukraine lol) where we have almost no problems with spam. But a lot of people (anon and tripfag alike) have already left; hopefully some of them will come back as they hear that the problem is taken care of.

Anonex still sleeps the sleep that never ends.

>>393672
>>393674
The fun is gone. The sillyness is gone. Everyone is serious and there is no room for anything else.
It's become like any other website....boring. No imagination.
Same thing happened here. Everyone got serious, people got board, then they left. People left before the CP spam. The CP cleared the rest out.

>>393689
People got board indeed.

The board in question is this one.

>>393671
I've been browsing /co/ since 2006 and this site almost since its creation. But I'm anonymous, and I my interests are pretty much dead at this point, so I don't even post that often.

>mom calls me to ask what I want for my birthday
>tell her I could use some new socks and bed sheets
>anything for fun, dear?
>hmmm, nah. oh wait, a blanket would also be nice
Being an adult fucking sucks.

>>393703
Dude, Bayo is coming, quick call her back.

>>393704
I always preferred Winkler.

OOOSH, Straya is really cleaning out the chaff.

http://mashable.com/2014/09/18/microsoft-layoffs/

At this rate if I was in the games division I'd be worried despite the minecraft acquisition.

I think I'm miserable enough to start having fun again, and just in time for my birthday.

>>393701
I used a name for the Wakfu sub threads but I mostly lurked. I just have a bit of nostalgic love for some of the old names that used to be around; the year I spent on here there was a lot of cool people doing some interesting threads.

>>393730
>I'll be thrown in jail
> a realllllly disturbing and illegal thing I did when I was a depressed and abused kid
Regardless of how disturbing it is it's animal sex isn't it, you won't necessarily go to jail; murder is the only general thing I'm aware of that has no statue of limitations, so you may want to look up your local laws and see if enough time has passed that they can't charge you for whatever it is. If there's no explicit limit, I think states have a catch-all limitation. Note that in some cases the clock doesn't start ticking until you are 18, but that's normally only if you are the victim.

This doesn't help with the other problems, of course, but it could be one less thing to worry about. Furthermore, what you just experienced with blackmail. You can go to the police/DA and perhaps build a case, but from the rest of it this doesn't seem like something that would appeal to you.

>threats of lawsuits,
>I already owe this person $40,000 since I let guilt take over when we broke up over 'me being a bad investment' and agreed to help give them 40,000 over ten years
Contractually? I know you have money problems, but even if this is in writing you should see a lawyer about it. That sounds like an agreement made under duress, and if it's verbal I doubt a court would give it a second thought. I'm not a lawyer, but my recommendation is that you don't pay this person shit. They are emotionally abusive and deserve neither you nor your money.

If you managed to get that $1000 from your dad, I recommend using it to consult a lawyer instead of paying them off. From what you're said, it sounds like the ex is trying to abuse more money out of you; if you can prove you were the breadwinner and made the vast majority of deposits into the account, you may even be able to sue them in small claims to get money back. Note that you will likely have to prove she spent it on extravagances, so ask the lawyer before actually trying. The lawyer may also help with your illegal thing in the past.

If you haven't already closed the joint account, do so as soon as possible. From the sound of it, you're better off just leaving whatever money is in the account behind. Also, if you have any money over after the lawyer, please see a therapist. I have the same feeling of uselessness myself and am looking for one, as well.

>Don't ever get a joint bank account.
> don't you ever ever EVER buy a house together
These are fine, but only if you've been with them for a long time and have an extreme amount of trust. Marriage helps in solidifying that, but is not a requirement nor guarantee. If you have a joint account, it shouldn't be either person's primary account, but a place to pool money to help the other out or to save up for something.

tl;dr: You're not the bad guy/girl here, anon. Start with the lawyer, lose all connections with the ex, and you can get back to your life.

Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>393730
Stab him in the chest, earn your jail time.

>>393730
Did you hook up with your dog.
Oh.
You probably diddled your kid cousin.

>>393730

Unless he has proof of whatever you did, as in clear photographic/videographic proof, he's just an asshole making up lies and slander. Given your situation, everyone in the family and in law enforcement will laugh off any claims he says about what you did.

He's making desperate and meaningless threats; don't let it faze you.

But do get a lawyer.

>>393814

>But do get a lawyer.

If for nothing else, get one to consult with about defamation.

>>393814
>everyone in the family and in law enforcement will laugh off any claims he says about what you did
Unless he has deep hooks within the community himself (though this sounds unlikely), in which case he'll have the pull to make Anon's life hell for some time even if no legal actions actually happen. If this happens long enough, there will be a nigh-permanent stigma on him in the community. In a small town this could make life extremely rough even if anon isn't the social type.

But, even with that in mind, I assume the ex's threats are empty.

Is the Youtube HTML5 player worth anything? Does it matter witch one I use?

>>393818
I was having trouble with their flash player not fully loading videos and switched to HTML5. The problem went away and I don't have any complaints; what's more, it seems ads don't appear (or maybe that's just my adblock, but they appeared when I watched the flash version.)

I think if we go down the road of equality among men and women, where women are equally capable and independent, there needs to be a trade off. You can not want feminism and still expect men to do things for you all the time, buying you gifts, paying on dates, being chivalrous, etc.

>>393827
...without doing all of that as well, at an equal rate. (Forgot that part)

>>393827
>Blah blah blah "I'm the real victim here."

>>393829
Not that anon, and it's not something that prevents me from being a fairly outspoken feminist for other issues (representation in media is probably my biggest bugbear), but it baffles me how some feminists, especially on Tumblr, still protest against rape laws that incriminate women in women-on-men or women-on-women related sex crimes for being misogynist, or are for women in the army yet reject mandating selective services for women as well as men.

I mean, if they actually did their women's studies seriously they'd know that first wave feminists fought really hard for these kinds of things, since part of recognizing women's equality is also recognizing our agency to do great deeds but also nasty ones just as men do. Likewise, now that women work and a lot of them (but not all) make more than their male partners, I think expecting men to always be the one to pay for a date even when they work a job with lower wages is an outdated and kind of unfair practice. Hell, personally I would find it patronizing for a guy to wine me and dine me and try to "buy" my interest rather than just splitting the bill.

>>393829
I remember a girl from school who was the worst tumblr girl I have had the misfortune of seeing IRL. We did presentations about sport issues (violence, women, racism, etc.) and she got women in sport. The other two in her group were ok, maybe a little pushy, but this bitch right here, spouted a bunch of bullshit, and by bullshit I mean passing lies off as fact. She also said a whole lot of buzzwords like misogyny (I don't think any part of modern sport involves the hatred of women). It was cringey. And yes, she is really fat and dyes her hair. Like, her group at school all like Harry Potter and Homestuck and tumblr, but the rest of them aren't feminist liars with a victim complex (and I thank the universe for that).

Also, I shall quote one of my wisest friends (who doesn't 4chan, reddit or tumblr):
>a real feminist does not call herself a feminist
Those who fight for equality don't go around saying they are feminists. SUPREMACISTS call themselves feminists.

>>393831 here.

>>393832
By your logic wouldn't that make all MRAs and people like Sarah Palin also supremacists too?

Since when do MRA's call themselves feminists?

>>393829
>>393832
Am I being trolled by the idiots from both sides at once here?

>>393834
I know a lot of people who identify as both.

>>393827
>>393831
>>393832

You're going to get mauled by a bear.

>>393835
>immediate multiple accusations of trolling
Please don't. It makes you sound like you are denouncing those who don't think like you. Be more accepting if you wish to have a good time on the discussion board.

>>393838
Kind of hard for a discussion to happen when both of those posts are guilty of what you just mentioned. Too many times I've seen the former as a lame rebuttal to any attempts at calling out actual female supremacists on their views, while the latter is rife amongst r/TheRedPill and the battier wings of #GamerGate.

>>393839
It's funny how you can name actual groups of misogynists like The Red Pill, but when you have to talk about "actual female supremacists" you can never name specific examples.

>>393839
Yep. I, for one, love a debate. Other people's views are interesting to me, even if they oppose my own. When someone else immediately uses a lame excuse (not even a rebuttal) to "defuse" an argument, it really make you not want to talk to them. To be honest, I couldn't give two fuck about gamergate, nor do I even know what is there to fight about, and since both sides are (from what I have heard) simply chucking shit at one another, it really isn't something I want to be a part of in any way.

>>393841
>"debating" polarizing issues on the internet

You'd think people who believe themselves to be smart would eventually learn how that turns out 100% of the time.

>>393840
Because Tumblr or Tumblr SJWs is too general and naming people like Misandry Mermaid, Drop My Cumberbritches, or outdated wackos like Sheila Jeffries is too narrow.

>>393840
#feminism
#radfem
>specific examples
purrfectlilfemme
femfreq

Please, stop being an intolerant douche before you get banned under rule 1a. I don't know why you need to come here and lie just to try and prove something to yourself.

>>393842
Which is why I said what I said: "it really isn't something I want to be a part of in any way." Trying to change stubborn people's minds is stupid. Just leave them blissfully ignorant, I say.

>>393831
>I think expecting men to always be the one to pay for a date even when they work a job with lower wages is an outdated and kind of unfair practice. Hell, personally I would find it patronizing for a guy to wine me and dine me and try to "buy" my interest rather than just splitting the bill.

Exactly, which was my point.

>>393829
>Blah blah blah "I'm the real victim here."

To which some immature assholes on this site don't bother to actually think of a thoughtful reply.

>>393848
>To which some immature assholes on this site don't bother to actually think of a thoughtful reply.

9 times out of 10 when a person says "But what about men?" they're attempting to deflect the issue at hand to point out some shit that they may or may not be personally going through.

It's silly because it's almost never used as a point of empathy, only to stifle discussion.

Also that dude's post was stupid. Who was he replying to exactly?

>>393843
How are specific examples too narrow...?

I post as anon on any boards that I don't frequent, for I believe that to be the right way of doing things. Anyone shares the same philosophy?

>>393851
There's not a "right" way to post on boards in regards to names.

You should always lurk before posting, but if the staff of a site wants the board to be all anon, then the staff needs to disable names and or trips.

Though I can totally understand picking up a name or trip for some places you're close to. I've considered getting one for +4 just because I hang out here a lot.

>>393851
I post as anon unless it matters or it could matter, or if other people are naming I might join in. I mostly go anon on foreign boards.

>>393850
Seriously though how the hell did that anon get "but what about men" from the other person's post? It was clear to me that they were talking about women the entire time and basically saying that a sign of successful gender equality means that women not only get the same rights as men but also share the same burdens and responsibilities as well. Which is something I fully agree with as a feminist myself. If a guy chooses to open a door for me that's fine and all, but men shouldn't be obligated to do it either just because I'm a woman. I'm plenty strong enough to do it on my own.

>>393827
Those kinds of traditions are wearing down. Maybe not at the same speed, but feminism and the recession are already making more equality for the sexes financially.

>>393855
>but men shouldn't be obligated to do it either just because I'm a woman

Agreed.

But who even told him that he had to? That's where the issue arises. When you randomly come out and say things like that without context (such as a personal anecdote), it looks like you're trying to stir shit up.

>>393851
i only ever post as anon

- secret

>>393858
The thread is "Speak Your Mind" so I spoke my mind. It came up when I was thinking about asking a girl out on a date. Obviously since it's my treat I should pay, but hypothetically what if we became an item? Or what if SHE asked me out instead? Society would still expect me to pay, or at least split the bill.

>>393858
It's called the Speak Your Mind thread, I've seen odder stuff show up here. And I don't see how any mention of gender is necessarily trying to start shit. This kind of paranoia reminds me of how misogynists automatically assume any female gamer is also there to start shit by being an attention whore or SJW.

OK how about for an actual anecdote? Until recently I used to think most SJWs were trolls trying to make liberals look bad, but a girl I used to be friends with in high school turned into an uber-SJW over the last year. We actually got into a huge argument because she claimed that white people are incapable of being racist and that if anyone has the nerve to call a POC racist she will hun'8t them down and gut them. And when I pointed out that the term "racist" is race-blind she gave me the whole dumbass "privileged people cannot be racist, white people wrote the dictionary in the first place so of course it's going to be biased to favor them, it's OK to fight fire with fire because they started the fire", etc. And through it all the stereotypical SJW terms were on full blast. She told me to shut up because she doesn't have the spoons to deal with me, that I was causing her an anxiety attack and ableist for using the word "crazies" to refer to extreme black separatists, and when another girl chimed in to my defense we should all get out because Facebook is her "safe space", even though she doesn't suffer from any debilitating illness like lupus or anything. Then I found out she was a nonbinary queer who calls herself a nanogirl because she among other things likes to wear pants and that I'm an "TW: idiot" for assuming all trans people have dysphoria. She's strangely mum on the subject of feminism for someone like that though.

I'm lucky I got as far as I did due to having a decent number of points on the oppression olympics scale myself, and I want to think she was trolling really hard this time because she used to be really nice and not a big ball of hate, but she's always been fairly liberal and involved in social justice causes even before Tumblr was a thing, so she has no reason to troll like that.

>>393862
So you don't even have a story like>>393863 does?

Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?

>>393863
Oh and I forgot to mention she's also a huuuuge Attack on Titan fan. Hell, I think it's the AoT fandom that started her on this path in the first place.

>>393858
Really? Because responding with "Blah blah blah 'I'm the real victim here.'" sounds a lot more like shit stirring to me, and I'd think you'd know better than to post that if stirred shit is what you wanted to avoid.

>>393864
>Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?
Maybe he's like me and goes through multiple potential scenarios in his head (ranging from realistic to fantastical) and the end result of all of the realistic ones is negative because I predetermined it so why even bother.

>>393866
More dismissive than shit stirring, but I digress.

>>393867
I want you to reread what you just wrote there until it becomes clear it's a bad idea. It's the equivalent of thinking about a move in a game then forfeiting the entire game because you think you know exactly how this one move is going to effect everything else.

It's lame and defeatist, and the worst part of it is that you've answered the question for the other person without giving him/her a chance to weigh in. At the very least, you have to let them answer for themselves.

>>393864
>Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?

Because I wasn't doing that? I was thinking about the societal norm for this shit as a whole, not assuming anything between me and her.

>>393868
>It's lame and defeatist
It is, which is why I'm seeking out therapy.

>>393853
You should only pick a name if there is a name you want to use. I picked Mister Twister because it was sitting in the back of my mind for years, and I never used it anywhere.