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No.393117
Speak Your Mind: Subject fields are stupid or somethingAutonywork
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Yay first autosage of /baw/ (I think). Old thread: >>391735

Lots of bad shit happening this week, but Super Corgi can save us.
No.393119
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
Speaking of bad shit, one of the more well known cats at the rescue I volunteer at passed away last night. While it's unfortunate and those that had a connection to him will be heartbroken, overall this will be a net positive to the rescue. He had Cerebellar Hypoplasia, which really messed with his motor skills, and due at least in part to this he was quite cantankerous. Any cat or person that got too close to him, regardless of what they were doing or even if they were aware of his presence, would at least be growled at and, if he thought he could reach, scratched. His antics could put other nearby cats on edge, they might lash out, etc. He also couldn't clean himself well and required some non-standard things like a lower litter box, making more work for staff as well.

It sounds kind of cold-hearted, and I don't dare suggest this to those who are heartbroken, but things will be a bit better there now that he's gone.
No.393125
Anonymous
I'm sick and tired of the social justice attitude of "If you're not with us you're against us"
No.393128
Anonymous
>>393125
I'm surprised you associate said attitude with social justice.
No.393129
Anonymous
>>393128
Mainly feminism.
No.393131
Anonymous
>>393128
I don't think he believes Internet Activism is the only place that attitude exists.
No.393134
Anonymous
>>393125
>>393129
Good luck finding any political direction where that does not apply. Terms like "rational", "open-minded", "freedom" or "justice" are effectively meaningless because believing your side to be the good guys by default is how humanity operates.
No.393135
Anonymous
Why is it that any time someone tries to help me with my self confidence, I end up feeling worse than ever?
No.393137
Anonymous
Replies:>>393138
>>393129
Well its easy.
You either want equal opportunities for women or you don't.
Its pretty binary. There's no middle ground to that.
No.393138
Slowpoke
Replies:>>393139
Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

>>393137
pls don't do that "if you hold this basic and obviously correct idea, you're automatically a part of my political group" thing
it's kinda shitty
>if you believe that workers deserve their fair share, you're already a communist!
pls.
No.393139
Anonymous
>>393138
Yeah, don't do bullshit like
>if you believe that people should be allowed to vote for their leaders, you're already a proponent of democracy!
Or
>if you don't believe there's a god, you're already an athiest
It's totally shitty to use the actual definitions of things rather than go along with whatever shitty baggage I either want to or have been convinced that I should assign to your political group by the political groups I belong to.
No.393140
Slowpoke
Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger

>>393139
yes that is an exact parallel, a+ post, i read it
No.393141
Mister Twister
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This will happen.
No.393142
Anonymous
So between Russia, St.Louis, Iraq, Israel, and just about everywhere else just how long until the whole planet just says fuck it and quits.
No.393143
Anonymous
Replies:>>393144
>>393139
>use the actual definitions of things

Funny how this only ever seems to apply when it can be used to attack people.

Political groups generally believe that they represent the "actual definition" since everyone who kind of agrees with you except when they don't are obviously using the label incorrectly. Boling complex concepts down to one simple phrase of 'absolute truth' is a very handy excuse for discrediting anyone with beliefs similar but incompatible with your own, which inevitably turn out to actually be more complex than the simplified 'not one of us because' clause.

Political concepts don't exist in a vacuum. Trying to seperate them from their believers serves little practical purpose because the result is not something that exists in reality (reality is not simple and binary).
No.393144
Anonymous
Replies:>>393147
>>393143
I don't know how you are able to be so smug and so hypocritical at the same time. Boiling down complex concepts to a simple one for the sake of your own labelling is exactly what you're doing here--Feminism as a movement is a complicated one which includes many different subsets, all of whom are feminist groups but very few of whom represent Feminism in and of itself. And yet you are saying that Feminism as a whole should be judged based on whichever particular subculture of feminism you have decided to judge it on--which will, of course, always be the one that casts it in the worst light, because that's how the human mind works (and a more cynical person might point out--that is also the best way to maintain the status quo while maintaining plausible deniability as to how you're assisting in it).
No.393145
Anonymous
Replies:>>393149
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>have obscure-ass fetish
>dedicated porn & doujins will never exist for it
>very, very rarely get related requests done in drawthreads
>already hate making lewd requests in SFW boards
>too much of a poorfag nigger to get art commissioned
>even if I could, the likelihood of it being drawn by the few artists I follow are slim to none since many of them consider themselves too clean-cut to draw fetishy lewds or just stopped taking commissions entirely
Goddamn...Being a picky, autismal fetishfag with obscure kinks is pure hell.
No.393147
Anonymous
Replies:>>393151
>>393144
>Feminism as a whole should be judged based on whichever particular subculture of feminism you have decided to judge it on

No, that is not what I'm saying. In fact, it is generally impractical to judge any political concept "as a whole" because that requries examining their core philosophies - but political groups of one concept aren't a collective, so there will always be different interpretations of those philosophies that render such judgment meaningless because it does not represent reality.

A statement like "I am a feminist" is effectively empty, because there is no singular "feminism" - whoever you're talking to will either judge you based on their own biased interpretation of "feminism" or attempt to discern what beliefs you actually hold behind that label.
No.393149
Anonymous
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>>393145
I can almost relate.
>browse /b/ 34 threads (and pco)
>latch onto obscure fetishes, they last for about a month
>half of them only have one good artist or one guy who only drew it as a one-off commission
>the rest is unfappable, month turns to shit

pic unrelated
No.393150
Anonymous
/co/ special:

Whenever I heard a voice in a cartoon, I remind myself that someone actually sounds like that IRL.
No.393151
Mister Twister
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>>393147
>feminism
Another F word that carries a lot of weight on the interwebs.
No.393160
Anonymous
I want to die.
No.393161
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393165
>>393160
Then you are missing the whole point of life. You don't move ahead if you quit.
No.393163
Anonymous
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I wish the world was as simple as an apology could fix everything.
No.393165
Anonymous
>>393161
But it would be over.
No.393166
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393170
>>393165
You need to remember why you were born in the first place. Get in touch with your subconscious mind.
No.393168
slowmobile
Being in a healthy relationship is so refreshing, gosh darn. Even though we both have our issues, we can actually talk about them and try to resolve them without worrying about the other person hating us for it. I haven't had that in a long time.
No.393170
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393166
Can't speak for anon, but I was born because my parents wanted kids and did the horizontal bop.

This is not a compelling reason for me to continue my life.
No.393171
TFE
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>>393160
>>393165
I like to think I know how you are feeling. I have felt the same way multiple times, or at least I assume that my past feelings of anguish are similar to yours, but I don't know who you are and I don't know what you have been through, and I don't know your pain. But I have wanted to die, or more accurately, I have wanted to stop living many times. You aren't alone in that.

And it's your choice. No one can take that from you. I won't be happy with you if you choose to end your life, but I will understand and respect that decision.

I don't think I have the proper words to tell you what I want to express because I'm just awful at that kind of thing, so I think it's better I give you what other people have said about it.

This website, or really this collection of words, really helped me the last time I felt like I wanted to die:
http://areason.org/

There was another time before that where I was even more incredibly done with existing and trying to find a reason to go though what I felt was pointless suffering, and someone gave me some of the kindest words to help me through it. Those words are here:
http://plus4chan.org/b/baw/res/382244.html#382762
and here
http://plus4chan.org/b/baw/res/382244.html#382765

I hope all this helps you.
No.393172
FreeGlass
So.

I actually feel good. For the first time in so long.

God I don't even want to gloat here I just wanna say
I got hired to do a design job for a concert here in the city. There's multiple artists involved, like Michiru Yamane, Power Glove, The Megas... and the headliner, for me, was MOON.
At random I actually got assigned MOON. I'm such a huge fan of the whole Hotline Miami soundtrack, and getting the standout? Holy fucking shiiiiiz.

I couldn't believe it! Aaaaugh I still can't believe it now, how someone getting random web artists would stumble on my work and say "hey I want you to make a concert poster for an artist you really like."
I'm so proud of myself for it. I'm looking forward to going to the gig!

And I like my poster so much. I like it so much guys you have no idea.

I could afford to go see GotG twice. In 3d. In english! Awh. I loved it so much the second time I saw it.
I'm sketching every day, too! I'm releasing the stuff daily on my twitter so I have at least a sense of commitment!

I feel better about my art than I've felt in so so long! I know I'm still sorta mediocre but I'm actually comfortable with the way I draw!

I wanna start working steady on comics. I wanna get me that steady gig at a local ad company, I want to do a full illustration at least a week.

And I can manage that.
I'm feeling so damn good right now.

I'm doing gooooood.

...
Now I just wish I could go for a workout at the gym. I'm getting flabby from all that peezz.
No.393173
Anonymous
>>393171
Thanks.
No.393175
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393189
Your fortune: ( ´_ゝ`)フーン

Everything seems so fucked. I can't get a job, I'm stuck in my mom's basement, I've lost contact with most of my friends, I'm sick consistently, I don't eat anything but dry spaghetti, and I can't even come up with a fun new thought to entertain myself.

I have never felt more at home.
No.393177
The Sneaky Tiki
Jesus Christ, I had no idea that when Obama talks about ANYTHING he causes political FISSURES.
No.393189
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393175
I assume that last part is sarcastic. If you're in good standing with your mom, I would try to get her to cook for you (assuming she can cook). Eating only dry spaghetti is bad for multiple reasons. Proper food => better immune system => better health => job => friends.

>>393177
"Fissure" puts it mildly, especially if you watch Fox News.
No.393190
Anonymous
Replies:>>393201
>>393177
Of course he does. Half the national government has made it their platform to oppose anything he says or does regardless of whether it would work or not. In fact, there are a fairly large number of people within the national government who oppose the entire idea of a national government, and intentionally sabotage its efforts so as to "prove" that it doesn't work. In the same sense that you can "prove" that a boat is unsafe by setting it on fire.
No.393192
Anonymous
Replies:>>393193
>sadness to the point of crying manly tears
>"Hey I know what'll cheer you up"

stop plz
No.393193
Anonymous
Replies:>>393201
>>393192
>gets taken to strip club
>gets booty shaken in face
>allowed to touch

no stop wtf
No.393199
Anonymous
>>393171
Is he ever coming back? I never talked to him outside of +4. We don't have CP spam anymore.
No.393201
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>393190
The last part was not at all sarcastic. Most people assume I'm sarcastic all the time, though. It's been a problem for most of my life. Also, I can cook for myself. I'm a decent cook, but only bother to do so for other people.
>>393193
While insensitive, you'll be just as sad tomorrow regardless of the amount of ass-face time. So, learn to appreciate it.
No.393207
bea
Replies:>>393209
hey guys guess what
No.393209
Anonymous
Replies:>>393211
>>393207
Whats up?

i can edit posts now. whoa!!! look out!!!
No.393210
bea
just kidding i wont edit your posts..........or will i

>>393199

probably not, hes too busy being cool+literally nightwing
No.393211
Anonymous
>>393209
uh oh
oh jeez

dont defile my posts nnnoooDISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
No.393212
Anonymous
Replies:>>393226
>>393199
He's on feisbúk occasionally.
No.393226
Anonymous
Replies:>>393232
>>393212
>
>He's on feisbúk occasionally.

Well that makes two of us.

Not that I have him added or anything. Oh well, maybe he'll swing by later. This place needs some life.
No.393232
Anonymous
Replies:>>393247
>>393226
Were it not for bea popping up just now, I'd say this place has been abandoned by the old guard otherwise known as the cool people.
No.393238
Anonymous
Have you ever stopped and thought maybe the world might be a better place if the internet didn't exist?
No.393240
Anonymous
>>393238
The world was perfectly capable of being shitty for all of existence before the Internet.
No.393242
Anonymous
>>393238
>the world might be a better place if the upper class had an easier time getting away with infinite lies

Pick up a history book some time.
No.393245
TeethandHunger
Replies:>>393246
The sun...it is hot....so damn hot. Go away sun...just stop being hot.
I am so weak against sun. Work during the day is bullshit. There where clouds, but the sun moved them out of the way.
Wow can you normal people stand it?! Because you guys are freaks who love Suns! Hours of work outside burns me! I think sun poisoned my brain. It would have...jerk sun.
I'll make revenge on you sun!
So hot and tired.
No.393246
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393257
Your fortune: ( ´_ゝ`)フーン

>>393245
Chlorophyll, bro. lrn2plant
No.393247
Anonymous
>>393232
i wish secret would hang around more
No.393251
The Sneaky Tiki
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HA HA HA!

If Ferguson wasn't so depressingly awful this would be more amusing.
No.393257
TeethandHunger
Replies:>>393260
I'm better now.

>>393246
Well that explains everything. It all makes sense now.
No.393260
TeethandHunger
>>393257
Chaplain Larry Tremaine = Groot is what I'm saying.
No.393262
Anonymous
I wrote a fanfiction.

I shouldn't feel proud but I do.
No.393265
Anonymous
Replies:>>393284
>>393262
What's it about, anon?

Do they bump uglies in it?
No.393267
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393284
Your fortune: Better not tell you now

>>393262
You created something. Did you create it skillfully?
No.393276
TeethandHunger
Replies:>>393281
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https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8tp-CcSkGTNLXl4SkFXaE5RWk0&usp=sharing
http://vivianjames.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2

So this is happening. /pol/ came up with a plan and /v/ executed plan......to help women in gaming.
So now /v/ has a sister or daughter now.
Replies:>>393283
>>393276
Oh yeah, I've seen a bit of it before.
Who's the girl with the horn?
No.393283
TeethandHunger
Replies:>>393286
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>>393281
It's /mlp/.

/v/ has raised $2000 dollars to put Vivian in a game.
1408766701547.png in https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8tp-CcSkGTNLXl4SkFXaE5RWk0&usp=sharing should fully explain things.
I'm posting a reaction on this.
No.393284
Anonymous
>>393265
Nah, it's not a lewd story and suddenly everyone's interest was lost.

>>393267
I'd certainly like to think so. If I thought it was shit I wouldn't feel proud of it.
No.393286
Anonymous
>>393283
>colon cancer charity
Cool, my thesis work revolves primarily around that and my lab could use some of that sweet dosh. Let's hope it's worth its salt and doesn't just cruise around on its brand the way the Komen foundation does.
No.393287
Nøpe
Replies:>>393288
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Well, things are certainly happening.
No.393288
Anonymous
Replies:>>393289
>>393287
You're kidding.

Tell me you're kidding.

Please tell me that's a joke.
No.393289
Anonymous
Replies:>>393290
>>393288
Rumor is the site was hacked to make it look like that was the case.
No.393290
Anonymous
>>393289
I hope so.

Fucking Phil Fish.
No.393292
Anonymous
Well. We'll just see how it goes.
Can't do anything at toss point.
No.393296
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
>Tina Fey posts ice bucket challenge video
>Has a little girl pretend to be her and get the water dumped on her head
>Leans in at the end and says she's just going to donate
>Comments full of people accusing her of cheating

I don't think people actually know or care how this is supposed to work, they just like watching celebrities/women in white t-shirts dump water on themselves.
No.393297
Anonymous
Replies:>>393299
>>393296
Honestly I think the ice bucket challenge is kind of dumb. I mean, it's great that they're raising money for charity, but dumping icy water on themselves is just sort of boring. Sure it's really cold but it's not that big of a deal. I just don't get the entertainment value it seems to have for people.
No.393299
Anonymous
>>393297
You DO know it's supposed to replicate the feeling of the advanced stages of Lou Gehrig's Disease.
No.393300
Anonymous
Replies:>>393301
>>393296
>Comments full of people accusing her of cheating

Man, if charity is the end goal and she still gave money, who cares if she "cheated"? I think some people are losing sight of what matters here.
No.393301
Anonymous
>>393300
Because people see entertainment as a cost for giving charity, and not the other way around. There's no such thing as donations anymore, people expect something in return. It's sad.
No.393304
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393306
I always feel a bit weird for following female cosplayers on Facebook. They seem like great people, they're super hot, and they have great costumes (that they're super hot in) but I don't know them at all so even though they have a fan page that anyone can Like/Follow, I can't help but feel I'm peeping in their window at night from my window across the street...
No.393306
Anonymous
>>393304
If they've got a fanpage for people like you to follow then you can think of it as peeping in their window while they yell "FREE PEEP SHOW" to the neighborhood.

Obviously they're fine with it.
No.393310
Anonymous
Replies:>>393313
I just remembered how much I fucking hate mirrors.

In all honesty, mirrors are useful and are pretty awesome, but on the rare occasions that I cry, I can't fucking stand seeing them.
No.393313
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393321
Your fortune: Very Bad Luck

>>393310
1) Mirrors are terror incarnate
2)Why you crying?
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Holy shit!
What the hell happened to him?
No.393321
Anonymous
>>393313
I just had to let it all out. A bit of family issues happened and I just felt like I needed to baw. It's been like half a year or something since I last cried, and that shit just hits you like a wave. It's all cleared up now, so that's good.
No.393322
Anonymous
Replies:>>393324
>>393316
Literally who?
>>393322
Frank Miller.
No.393325
The Sneaky Tiki
>>393316
HOLY FUCK WHAT THE HELL?
No.393326
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>393329
Like I knew Miller was in free fall creatively and as an artist but JESUS, now I wonder if his creative decline has been the result of a health decline.
No.393327
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
It's like he peeked into the Ark of the Covenant.
No.393329
Anonymous
>>393326
Hasn't his creative freefall been going on since 2001? It seems like it's just a result of old age and 9/11.
No.393332
The Sneaky Tiki
>>393329
He's only 57.

Though you are right 9/11 ruined the shit out of his brain.
No.393333
Anonymous
Replies:>>393335
>>393332
That man is only a few years older than my dad but he looks like his own father.

God damn.
Has he been to the doctor lately?
No.393335
Anonymous
Replies:>>393336
>>393333
>>393332
>>393329
Rumors say cancer.
No.393336
The Sneaky Tiki
>>393335
No doubt caused by radical Islam!

(sorry, I've been reading up on him, holy shit he turned into a dirtbag post-9/11)
No.393342
Anonymous
Man, I will never be able to draw cute girls and it's eating me up inside. Scraggly old bums? No problem! People with horrifying deformities? Sure! Mutilated burn victims? Fun! But tell me to draw a cute girl and the horrifying abomination I put to paper will haunt our dreams forever. Fuck my life.
No.393345
Anonymous
>know a beautiful girl on campus
>she always acts very cold and intimidating
>hard to be friends with her when she puts up a shell like this, although she can be very cute and funny
>stumble upon her blog
>see how she really is on the inside: depressed and lonely, a hopeless romantic, hates herself and is also a kissless virgin
>pretty much exactly how I am, only she's drop-dead gorgeous
>has had many of the same experiences I have too, and the same feelings about said experiences
>realize me being put off by her cold nature is exactly the same way people react to mine
>she's not even a SJW type, or a Christian
>can't stop thinking about her now

Help me, /baw/. How do I ask her out? She doesn't know me that well and she definitely won't open up to just anybody.
No.393347
Nøpe
Replies:>>393350
>>393345
Well, how would a stranger ask you out to get you to go along with it?
No.393350
Anonymous
Replies:>>393367
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>>393347
>>393345
>after all this time being a kissless virgin, and when I'm seriously interested in her, she's dating tonight
>it's probably going really well and by the time I ask her out they'll already be a thing
No.393351
Anonymous
Replies:>>393354
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>some instructor gives a little girl a full auto uzi
>she can't control it
>shoots him
lol what an idiot, he deserved it for not knowing the basic facts on educating kids about guns.
No.393353
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393355
I'm really starting to feel as if I don't fit in anywhere. I can't hold conversations with people (Internet or Outernet), I'd have little to say even if I could, and I just seem to feel "better" when I'm disconnected from others.
No.393354
Anonymous
>>393351
I dunno, revolvers are pretty kid safe. It was what i learned on as a wee lad. Part of the reason was that my thumb wasn't long enough to cock the hammer properly, so I had to hand it back to dad to get it ready to fire again.

Referring to pic only.
No.393355
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393356
Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>393353
What do you do, so disconnected? In your head, I mean.
No.393356
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393365
>>393355

I don't feel pressure to keep up a personality/persona/image/whatever when I'm alone. That's a huge goddamn comfort, especially considering my looks (hoo boy do I need a ton of dental work and scar removal) and my lack of an actual personality beyond "whiny bitch".
No.393358
Anonymous
If you have a problem, talk to me directly about it. Don't call the fucking management. Why do people do this?
No.393359
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393362
>>393358

People hate face-to-face confrontation.
No.393362
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393358
They get some sense of superiority because they "manipulated" those more powerful to do their bidding. Also >>393359.
No.393365
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393366
Your fortune: Excellent Luck

>>393356
Self-consciousness is a bitch.
>>393358
I don't know you well enough to trust that you won't do something to poison me if we just keep this between us?
No.393366
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>393365

>Self-consciousness is a bitch.

Goddamn right it is.
No.393367
Anonymous
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>>393350
>>393345
>they are a thing
>and they've had sex
>had I acted any earlier I would've probably scored a date with her
>instead she now has her first boyfriend, has lost her virginity, and this guy will probably never understand her like I swear to god I do
>pic related is what I want to do now
No.393368
Anonymous
>>393367
Okay, you need to seriously take a step back and stop putting this woman on a pedestal. She is just an ordinary woman who you happened to be attracted to and with whom you happened to feel you were compatible. That is it. This is not the end of the fucking world. It is at worst a minor setback, and at best it is permission for you to find someone even more compatible with you.

Break out of this scarcity mentality and stop thinking you've found the One before you've even kissed her. You are torturing yourself for nothing.
No.393371
Anonymous
Replies:>>393372
Writing while high is pretty great.
No.393372
Anonymous
>>393371
It is while you're high.

Then you gotta edit sober.

You'll swear never to try that again.

...
Which mean's you'll do it again in a week.
No.393375
Anonymous
Replies:>>393386
So I've for the second time now realized that for the majority of my life, I've always been the one who initiates contact or relationships with people. People do respond to me, albeit slowly sometimes, but I've almost never had someone contact me of their own volition to talk or ask me something.

Maybe I'm just being an emotionally needy loser and this is how most interpersonal relationships are?
No.393386
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again

>>393375
Why would they? You have all those friends. You're probably busy.
No.393395
Anonymous
Replies:>>393396
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hey bea
No.393396
Anonymous
>>393395
But that hurts my neck. Let's just meet in the middle and have the short people sit on my lap.
No.393397
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
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No.393398
Anonymous
>>393397
I'll still become compost for some flowers.
No.393399
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Ugh, I knew this would happen eventually. My mom wanted to do dinner tonight but I'm in no mood so I just said no. She asked if it was because or because I didn't want to and I was truthful. Then she said she'd stop by later to show my sister the house but wound up not doing it, and when she called to let me know she wasn't coming she said "I moved to Colorado to see you". Except that I thought she moved to Colorado so my dad didn't have to deal with Iowa pollen, but whatever.

I liked it when I had two states between myself and any of my family. Made it real easy to avoid going to anything. Now that they're a half hour away, with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up I'll probably just have to come out and say "Spending time with you is not good for me." I don't want to make them sad, but I don't want to spend time with them more.
No.393401
Anonymous
>>393397
So would successfully breaking that be something to be proud of just because it's such an apparently difficult thing or something? Given the amount of mutation that's occurred int hat time, I wouldn't really call it successful unless I also consider it unbroken as long as life vaguely resembling me passes on its own genes.
No.393404
Anonymous
Replies:>>393405
>>393397
This is kinda bullshit, there's no guarantee one of my ancestors wasn't adopted.
No.393405
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393408
Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger

>>393404
I want you to think very hard about where adopted people come from.
No.393408
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>393405

Cabbage patches, right?
No.393417
Anonymous
"just" is such weird word as non-native speaker. It feels so loose, for a lack of better words.
Replies:>>393429
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I'm at a low-point, mental health wise. There's a bunch of factors. Anxiety over my bar results (still toe plus months away), fear of losing my apartment and parental support, fear I won't get a job (see "fear of losing apartment and parental support"), fear of having to moving back in with my parents and away from my fiancée, fear about my fiancée getting sicker and something happening to her while I'm living away from her, fear my neuroses will drive her away, etc, etc.

It's made every little thing worse. I panic over losing my keys, forgetting the doors unlocked, mad cow, anything that a person can possibly panic or fear, it gets me. I can't even use Xanax, cause I've read stuff about that causing cognitive impairment. I have nothing if I don't have what's left of my brain. I hate my life and am generally the most miserable I've been in the five years I've been posting here.
No.393425
Mister Twister
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>search for Sad Lovers & Giants (a band) on Google
>type
>sad lo...
>Google suggests "sad love songs"
>keep typing, make typo
>sad loves
>Google suggests "sad loves songs"
>sad loves songs

It's official. According to Google, sad loves songs is a thing that exists.
No.393429
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Someone pointed to me to http://www.7cupsoftea.com/ when I was saying how depressed I was a few weeks ago, and now I'm feeling exceedingly depressed (in part because I've made the decision to return my cat) and was just looking at that.

I haven't actually tried to talk to someone, but I'm looking at the quick list of profiles and am less than impressed. I know that they work in part because they have a lot of free volunteers, but there just seems to be a heavy social-network angle. Or maybe that's intentional since it's about "active listening"? I don't really see a point in posting your photo or your hobbies (maybe it helps people connect?) Part of the reason I don't go in depth with anyone about my shit is because I don't want to potentially weigh down some random person with my shit; and even though these folks have essentially volunteered I'm still worried about somehow harming them by unloading myself. I'm very good at rationalizing my internal fears and hatred.

>>393423
You could try 7 Cups of Tea, despite all I said. I'm still thinking about giving it a shot myself.
No.393430
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393429
Forgot to mention, I don't want to deal with people who will respond "Don't worry, you're amazing, you're a good person, you'll be fine!" Because that's complete bullshit and they will just make me more disgusted with the human race.
No.393437
Anonymous
>>393430
You're probably a piece of shit, but that is what the site is for in the first place, so don't worry about it.
No.393444
Jumpman
Someone explain to me the Arthur "He does it for free" meme to me, because I don't fucking watch Arthur and I was apparently absent from 4chan when it became popular.
No.393447
Anonymous
>>393429
>>393430
Hobbies are where it's at, if anything I'm hurt from not hearing more about them. Being able to talk to someone about a human/computer language hybrid would be considerably sweet.
No.393449
Anonymous
Replies:>>393454
Anyone who works at my Uni is either a total asshole or total bro.
No.393454
Anonymous
Replies:>>393455
>>393449
Look on the bright side; at least you have bros.

I started taking iron pills and now my piss literally looks like Mountain Dew.
Maybe somebody could incorporate this into a prank...
No.393455
Anonymous
>>393454
oh fuck I just regurgitated a pill after it was half digested. It tastes like powdered rust and a dash of salt.
No.393456
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393461
After watching a video, episode, or a movie, I would often think in the voice of the characters. Anyone the same?
No.393457
Anonymous
Yeah, I don't really have a solid idea of how I sound, so my voices tend to be pretty arbitrary.
Also tend to remember things in first-person perspective, and when I don't I often switch to a cartoon view of some sort where people are substituted by various characters.
Usually tend towards villains and other cynical, reckless characters.
No.393461
Jumpman
>>393456
Yeah, if the voice is really captivating. Rarely do I read anything in my own voice.
No.393462
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393463
And my depression just kind of fades away. It's as though I didn't spend the last four days in a severe pit of self-loathing and angst, to the point of missing work yesterday.

Maybe I should give up masturbation for a bit. I'm not that into it anymore, anyway, it's just a thing to do and gives some brief respite from the depression. Perhaps a nofap challenge would boost my interest... At the least, after a week or so I would have a ballin' good romp.
No.393463
Anonymous
>>393462
Have you talked to a shrink? Could be bipolarism.
No.393464
FreeGlass
Replies:>>393476
>>393117
Oh my god I'm so hungry all the time!
I always get these cravings for either Carl's Jr or gyros or pizza and its just
ugh impossible.

I'm just craving a big meal all night
Its worse when I can probably only afford a lunch like that only once a month fuck
No.393466
Anonymous
Replies:>>393467
>>393463

Oh oh... that's what killed Robin Williams. That and coke.
No.393467
Anonymous
>>393466
He was clean when he died, though.
No.393469
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393463
>Have you talked to a shrink?
Can't afford one.
No.393474
TFE
Replies:>>393476
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>Accepted the lack of a romantic relationship in life
>Focused on DREAMS and stuff
>Attend class
>SUDDENLY: CUTIE PATOOTIE FRESH AND FRUITY

Shit.
I don't even know how to work the grill I have at home.
No.393476
Anonymous
>>393464
I'd suggest stir fry or something else cabbage-based, but I found that tends to not be all that filling despite being huge.

>>393474
You know, I almost did that, except it was less cutie patootie and more "I don't know if this is a crush or just fear that she'll kill everyone with her bare hands at any moment now." Probably the latter.

Though really, learn how to cook. If anything, asking her to teach you is an excuse to spend time together.
No.393480
Anonymous
You know what I always found weird? Teleportation in movies and TV today is done with flashy special effects. But in the 60s, with shows like Batman and Star Trek, if there was ever something that appeared or disappeared in front of someone, it just popped up right there. No effect, no nothing, just a simple frame cut and a sound effect. Which is a lot closer to how it would probably be in real life.
No.393482
Anonymous
I think there'd be some effect from air being displaced.

Also, why do Bistros say it's easier to make tiny portions look cool if it's so hard to cook meals at home for only one or two people?
No.393484
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393485
One day, faggot will stop being 4chan's go-to word.

What word will replace it?
No.393485
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393484
I was actually thinking about their use of "faggot" the other day.

I don't think they use the word purely as a means of insulting, but rather as a means of exclusion. If some delicate flower, unaware of 4chan's nature (or even someone who has heard stories but not encountered it themselves), happens to wander into /b/ or /v/ and see "faggot" being thrown around everywhere and "-fag" being the most prolific suffix ever, they'll almost certainly be offended and run off. If they stay long enough to post and chide the users for using the word, they'll get a torrent of hate and death threats heaped upon them, causing them to leave (unless they're a rare and particular brand of stupid).

This is subconscious; "faggot" has become the secret password to get into their base, but one that everyone knows and they don't care. It's not about giving the password, it's about reacting to it. Did someone call you a fag and you just rolled your eyes? Congrats, you're in. If you balked, you should go find a hug box like reddit, there be dragonfags here. It's even taken on a kind of badge of honor ("It's okay, I'm taking porchmonkey back") in that if you refer to or accept yourself as a tripfag or just fag in general it displays your assimilation into 4chan, to the point that there are some posts where you could substitute "bro" for "fag" and not change the meaning of the post.

Certainly at some early point it was used as a way to offend someone, and did actually offend people, but its proliferation over time has turned it into nothing more vile than a normal person calling another normal person "idiot".

So, to answer your question: 4chan will stop using "faggot" everywhere once it's no longer a word abhorred by society. They will replace it by whatever word the community decides is the most offensive to normal people at that time. This won't be an overnight transition of course, but you'll see the frequency of "faggot" steadily drop as the new word, let's say "bumbletwat", gradually increases.
No.393486
Anonymous
>>393485
Not to mention half of the uses of it these days are neutral to positive. Most people just treat it as a tag of affiliation, like calling someone a Mewtwofag, Kamiyafag, or Nasufag, where any positive or negative connotations come from the identification preceding "fag" and implications of sycophancy/support rather than the term "fag" itself. It's become a shibboleth for how thick- or thin-skinned a person is and whether they're ready to participate. Some people use it specifically to be hateful, but even then half the time it's only jokingly so and outside of blatantly political boards like /pol/ and /r9k/ or blatant contrarian trollis, the general attitude towards gays is pretty ambivalent. While there are a lot of real reasons to criticize current 4Chan culture, claims of homophobia are mostly hyperbole.
No.393488
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393489
>>393485
>>393486
And what will replace it in 10 years?

Provided the site survives for 10 years and m00t won't sell it to the russians.
No.393489
Anonymous
>>393488
Obv. we'll all be anarchists and use "government" as an insult.
>How's it going? I just joined here and it sure is a wild board.
>Get out of here , government.
>What did you call me? You don't just go around calling me government, it's not polite!
>Oh, look who's forcing demands on me. JUST LIKE A GOVERNMENT.
Also, being sold to Russians didn't seem to hurt Livejournal, its popularity was just already waning, so I don't think it'd hurt 4chan.
No.393491
Anonymous
>>393486
It's funny because half the time I see shit like
>Not wanting to put your dick in another guy and have hot sweaty mansex? What are you, some kind of a faggot?
I have a really dumb sense of humor like that.
No.393492
Anonymous
holy crap i might actually want to kill myself.
No.393493
Anonymous
>>393492
Whoa, geez dude. Take a breather and get to bed.
No.393494
Anonymous
Replies:>>393495
>>393492
There are hotlines for suicide prevention. You really need to call one of them now if you even think it's a little possible that's how you feel--random internet goblins may not be as much help as a genuine person who's been trained in this stuff.
No.393495
Anonymous
Replies:>>393499
>>393492
>>393494
Yeah, what he said.
I don't want you to kill yourself, dude, depression's a motherfucker and I'd hate to see the douche win.
But man, I can only do so much.
Call them peeps. They'll know what's up.
No.393497
Anonymous
I fear I might sound like a pompous arrogant douche, but the feeling of intellectual inferiority is an incredible, humbling experience. And yet I have never encountered it once when talking to people on the internet, which I've been doing for more than a decade now. I guess that says something. Either about the quality of discourse, the general self-perception of its users or both.
No.393498
Anonymous
>TVTropes is cutting all instances of Fan Dumb, Hate Dumb, Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch, Political Correctness Gone Mad and so on
Jesus christ they keep taking away all the fun stuff. Now people can't even call out the bad people in fandoms for being bad because it might hurt someone's feefees. Especially since social justice warriors have gone from an isolated Internet annoyance into a legitimate problem and nobody can crticize them for the blatant untruths, false conclusions, and scientifically or historically wrong statements (Saami and Socrates being POC, painting white antiracists as racists, etc.) they keep making.
No.393499
Anonymous
>>393495
Different anon, but I've called and its very helpful.
That is all.
I don't have much else to say.
No.393500
Anonymous
Replies:>>393501
>>393498
...you'll notice however that you are complaining about no longer being able to complain about fandoms on a site that's supposed to be about examining the building blocks of stories, right? Bitching about not being able to whine about SJWs on TV Tropes is like bitching about not being able to bitch about your shitty Ikea furniture on /v/.
No.393501
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393503
>>393500

If they're getting rid of all the Darth Wiki stuff, they should get rid of the Sugar Wiki shit, too.
No.393503
Anonymous
>>393501
They don't appear to be getting rid of the Darth Wiki. They appear to be getting rid of the "Complaining about subcultures you're not part of" stuff. As far as I'm aware there isn't a matching "Talk about how awesome X fandom is" trope.

Even if there were, I'm not sure why everyone feels like there always needs to be a balance of vitriol and celebration. Is it really so offensive to the 4chan mindset that some places have a net positive outlook rather than the endless stream of negativity that every other site on the internet wallows in?
No.393504
Anonymous
Replies:>>393509
Actually one of the things they just got rid of (Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch) is actually about complaining about haters of series who criticize them for the wrong reasons. It's not for complaining about fans or SJW, it's for complaining about the haters. Some of which will be SJW who bash a game they never played because of fake rumors that it's racist, but plenty of these entries are about racists who hate a game just because it has a black or female main character no matter how good it is. And that's a valid thing to be aware of.

They also bombed all entries of the Real Women Never Wear Dresses and Het Is Ew tropes despite the fact that people mostly used them to criticize the extreme misogyny that can take place in many fandoms. Sounds like very useful information for me to know when getting into a series, and hell, reading through those entries have made me become a much better feminist. Getting rid of them because they're too negative sounds like sugarcoating to me.
No.393505
Anonymous
>>393498
Jesus, anon, quit your whiny bitching.
No.393506
Anonymous
Replies:>>393521
I want to turn off emotions

And I want control over people so be o not having emotions hurts them

I want a bit of meaning on my life

I want to disappoint someone... Or rather... I want to have the power to disappoint and make someone sad... But I don't.... Because I care. And that someone cares

God damn I want my death to mean something when it happens. I want the god fucking stock market to crash
I want to leave people devastated and horrified at the idea of my death

But mnope

I can't have nuttin
No.393509
Anonymous
>>393504
>And that's a valid thing to be aware of.
In what sense? How is it relative to the discussion of the building blocks of stories to bitch about the fact that (NEWS FLASH!) the internet has a bunch of horrible people on it?
No.393510
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Outlook good

I got into a fight with my mom. The crux of the disagreement was whether or not I should feel bad about being a terrible person.
No.393521
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
So ends my adventures in pet ownership. And one of the things I thought would bring me some happiness...

>>393506
>I want to disappoint someone...
I was right beside you until this. I feel I've disappointed everyone and so deserve my self-loathing.
No.393533
TFE
Plus4chan: it's like Wizardchan, but even more depressing and pathetic.

Someone make that a banner.
No.393542
Anonymous
Please don't. Wizardchan is shitty and shouldn't be uttered in the same breath as +4.
No.393552
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393553
I want to like things again. At this point the only things that bring me reliable pleasure are certain foods, and even foods I used to love have started to fade in their luster. If this continues, I'll be relegated to eating only the greasiest, most sugary of foods in a sad and ever more fruitless attempt to enjoy something, anything in life.

How do I like things? Difficulty: Clinical depression.
No.393553
Anonymous
Replies:>>393554
>>393552
Go to therapy.
No.393554
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393555
>>393553
Yeah, I probably should. I just don't have money for it; I keep meaning to call my insurance to see if they might cover anything but always forget when they're open...
No.393555
TFE
Replies:>>393556
>>393554
There are free therapy groups. And universities usually offer therapy sessions for far less than normal, especially if you're a student.
No.393556
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393555
Therapy in a group doesn't sound like a good idea. I'm an expert in rationalizing my negative views; I would be concerned about negatively affecting others who are already in bad places themselves.

I wouldn't be against therapy through a university program. I'll have to see if the nearby University has such a program.
No.393559
Anonymous
Replies:>>393566
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It happens to the best of us.
No.393566
Anonymous
>>393559
>posting that conversation on the same site you just linked to

//youtube.com/watch?v=K2v-8ctq5x4youtube thumb
No.393568
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Oh boy, here come the onslaught of remember 9/11 Facebook posts.
No.393570
Nøpe
>>393568
Well, it is Patriot day.
No.393571
Mister Twister
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>>393568
I absolutely had to.
No.393576
Anonymous
I think it's a good time to share this video I saw yesterday:
//youtube.com/watch?v=04SEzifEsGgyoutube thumb
No.393583
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393589
>>393581

>only a Sith deals in absolutes

Doesn't that phrase itself count as an absolute (‘only one type of person deals in absolutes’) and, thus, makes anyone who says it a giant hypocrite?
No.393586
Anonymous
Mr. Stone, I think you posted in the wrong thread.
No.393589
Mister Twister
>>393583
Words are never to be taken literally.


Many of the artists I follow say and do stupid things online. I am tempted to tell it to them, but afraid of making them angry (as artists always get).
No.393594
Anonymous
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Who wants to talk dinosaurs?

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/09/11/the-new-spinosaurus/

It turns out that Spinosaurus was dedicated to a semi-aquatic lifestyle, much like a crocodile. Also, we've been portraying it wrong all these years.
No.393595
Mister Twister
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>listening to Wolf's Rain soundtrack on YT
>scrolling down to read some comments
>second one reads "I wish I was a wolf"
No.393596
Anonymous
Replies:>>393597
plustumblr's a mini shitstorm tonight

can i crash here for a while
No.393597
Anonymous
Replies:>>393598
>>393596
sure.

would you like to help me out and commission some art?
No.393598
Anonymous
>>393597
i don't have a penny to my name but if you have a website i'd be happy to promo
No.393613
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Replies:>>393616
Your fortune: Average Luck

I don't currently see any potatoes, and I'm not sure brains are trustworthy enough to tell me that potatoes are real with any certainty, but I'd like to imagine I will eat french fries in the future.
No.393615
Anonymous
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>An experimental fetish artist I watch on tumblr is following my old art professor's tumblr because some of his works are right up his alley.
The world is to small. Please let me out.
No.393616
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Very Bad Luck

>>393613
Update: There were.
No.393618
Anonymous
/baw/, I'm looking for a very specific music video. One I can't seem to find through google due to my limited knowledge. I only remember seeing when someone here, mighta been Jane something, did a livestream of The Hangover, the first one, and it was used as filler when the movie ended. It was something about shadow puppets and I think it may have been in Japanese. The only thing I can clearly remember is that the final shadow puppet was a dancing person. This was at least four years ago.

Please help, only a few lyrics remain in my memory and they keep looping and it's become somewhat irritating.
No.393620
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393621
Went through my finances and worked out a budget. I have exactly $0 to spend on therapy. Even if my insurance covers something, they won't cover everything.

More irritating is that I posted that info on Facebook, and my mom's response was "Time to get creative!"

I just don't know how to explain it to her (and my dad) without making them heavily upset. No, it's not time to be creative. I haven't been creative in years. I am depressed and get no lasting joy. Before long I'll probably get no joy period. Finger painting or a fucking self-help book or reading how to meditate is not going to fucking solve this. I need counseling, and maybe medication, and certainly a change of venue because helping them out by moving into their house was the wrong fucking answer.

Considering my up/down schedule I could wake up as early as tomorrow, but probably late Tuesday or early Wednesday, heavily depressed, and this new information is not going to make that spell any easier to trudge through.
No.393621
Anonymous
>>393620
>"Time to get creative!"
I thought we all agreed to never be creative again.
No.393624
Anonymous
Replies:>>393655
How many longtime posters on this site happened to be accomplished members of the STEM fields? All I remember is that Ferrous was a grad student of some sort. Possibly Ninja, as well, but I remember them being uncommunicative if not downright passive aggressive, so I know they won't help me here.
No.393625
Anonymous
Replies:>>393637
And yes, I know that Ferrous developed some weirdass issue with posting on this site itself and swore it all off or something along those lines. I just want to know how to contact the guy,
No.393628
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
My give-a-fuck meter is completely broken today.
No.393636
Anonymous
Replies:>>393637
I consider myself somewhat intelligent. Not a genius, but fairly above average. But for some reason I fucking hate puzzles with a passion. I just don't have the patience for this contrived fucking bullshit waste of time. And then people look at me weird, because I'm the "brainy guy" and tell them I hate puzzles.
No.393637
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail

I'm working toward building up good habits and positivity, but I have to wonder when it will start to feel authentic rather than just forcing down my real self.

>>393625
ferrousfellow.tumblr.com
>>393636
Exercise is impractical, don't run with the bulls.
No.393638
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
My parents gave me $400 so I could go see a doctor to get something in progress. I'm very torn about this; I definitely need to see someone about my depression, but part of the depression stems from seeing myself as a burden on others. Getting money from my parents, who have financial issues now and then themselves, does not help this part.

Now we have to see if I can get it together to actually set up an appointment.
No.393639
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393642
>>393638
To cure depression, talk to someone wise.

Doctors are not wise, they have a PHD.
No.393641
Anonymous
Replies:>>393643
>>393638
Thats exactly the sort of thing you need to talk to a therapist about, dude.
Best of luck.
No.393642
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393646
>>393639
The doctor is the first step. If I'm to make that money count, I need to go through the whole bullshit of referrals to make my insurance (which is bare-minimum) do anything in the way of helping money-wise. Plus, I still have a dozen or so citalopram from the last time I was taking meds; it's a bad idea to start those on my own, but the doc could give me the all clear and a refill/new prescription. The meds might help me out until I can get regular therapy underway.
No.393643
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393641
Thanks
No.393646
Mister Twister
Replies:>>393649
>>393642
What I was trying to say is that there are people who understand the human soul better than any psychotherapist, who may see humans as mere biological machines. Me mum, though not a doctor, helped me and my sisters a lot when dealing with emotional issues.

To summarize, you need to understand your mind. How is it put together? Despite the popular opinion, only you can fully understand yourself. After that is done, figure out what depression IS, and where it is coming from. Then, you could neutralize it, like a mental infection (which is what depression is).

That was my personal experience. But I think it works for everyone. The most important part, aside from "understanding yourself", is to realize that your negative emotions are not a part of your mind, but a virus, a destructive force that needs to be driven away. Don't cherish your doubts and fears; fight and destroy them, like your body would fight and destroy a disease.
No.393649
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393646
My depression comes from a heavy view of self-worthlessness, unrestrained pessimism, no sense of purpose or goals or desire. I've lost the ability to really like things; it's not that my tastes have changed, just that they've disappeared. The only things that give me any heavy enjoyment are only things that appeal to my baser instincts: masturbation, fatty/greasy food, and a good kill in TF2. But any pleasure I get is fleeting, and more often than not leaves me empty inside afterward.

In short, I've no interest in anything, including myself. If I haven't been able to "fix" myself by now, after 10 years of introspection about it, I'm not going to, at least on my own.

I'm not trying to deride your experience, and I'm glad it worked for you, but it is not going to work for me.
No.393652
Anonymous
>>393649
>My depression comes from a heavy view of self-worthlessness, unrestrained pessimism, no sense of purpose or goals or desire.
Those are symptoms, not the cause.
No.393653
Anonymous
>>393649
Those feelings of worthlessness - its how depression works, man.

You try and find a reason for your sadness.
No.393655
Anonymous
>>393624
Secret isn't really a regular or anything but he's some kind of engineer or industrial designer if I remember right.
No.393657
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>393659
…I really need to get my shit together.
No.393659
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Good Luck

>>393657
Yes.
No.393671
Anonymous
I am trying to give up 4chan. I am thinking I might start coming here again so as not to try cold turkey again. Anyone still around from like 5 years ago? I only see a few names I know and this place changed a lot.
No.393672
Anonymous
>>393671
I *only* go on the How's Your Webcomics thread on /co/.
People say the board hasn't really changed in several years, but... man I don't buy it.
Its just not pleasant for me, personally, anymore.
No.393673
Anonymous
>>393672
I really cannot remember a time in the last few years that I enjoyed a thread on /co/. It has just become a waste of time and energy for me. I think I need a change of pace.

It really looks like +4 has slowed down a bit compared to when I used to visit here more often a few years back.
No.393674
Anonymous
>>393672
Yeah, I would say /co/ is significantly different than it was 4 years ago, I remember when /co/ made jokes about company wars and feminism.
No.393675
Anonymous
>>393674
Yeah, /co/ really was the leader in the "Women in Comics need to improve" position back when.
Amazing how contrarian they've generally gotten.
No.393683
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393671
The boards had some rough patches over the past two years. There was also a month where the site was completely unusable last year. We had a rash of CP spam Jan of this year that drove a lot of people away, even though it was only on /baw/ (for some reason) and a pharma spambot hit all of the boards regularly. The CP is what led to these new boards (also banning Ukraine lol) where we have almost no problems with spam. But a lot of people (anon and tripfag alike) have already left; hopefully some of them will come back as they hear that the problem is taken care of.

Anonex still sleeps the sleep that never ends.
No.393689
TeethandHunger
Replies:>>393691
>>393672
>>393674
The fun is gone. The sillyness is gone. Everyone is serious and there is no room for anything else.
It's become like any other website....boring. No imagination.
Same thing happened here. Everyone got serious, people got board, then they left. People left before the CP spam. The CP cleared the rest out.
No.393691
Mister Twister
>>393689
People got board indeed.

The board in question is this one.
No.393701
Anonymous
Replies:>>393719
>>393671
I've been browsing /co/ since 2006 and this site almost since its creation. But I'm anonymous, and I my interests are pretty much dead at this point, so I don't even post that often.
No.393703
Anonymous
Replies:>>393704
>mom calls me to ask what I want for my birthday
>tell her I could use some new socks and bed sheets
>anything for fun, dear?
>hmmm, nah. oh wait, a blanket would also be nice
Being an adult fucking sucks.
No.393704
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>393706
>>393703
Dude, Bayo is coming, quick call her back.
No.393706
Anonymous
>>393704
I always preferred Winkler.
No.393708
The Sneaky Tiki
OOOSH, Straya is really cleaning out the chaff.

http://mashable.com/2014/09/18/microsoft-layoffs/

At this rate if I was in the games division I'd be worried despite the minecraft acquisition.
No.393710
chappy laffy taffy
I think I'm miserable enough to start having fun again, and just in time for my birthday.
No.393719
Anonymous
>>393701
I used a name for the Wakfu sub threads but I mostly lurked. I just have a bit of nostalgic love for some of the old names that used to be around; the year I spent on here there was a lot of cool people doing some interesting threads.
No.393729
Anonymous
Replies:>>393730
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>get call from ex today
>I took about a $1000 out of the joint checking account for various expenses and that's apparently 'stealing'
>even though I was the only one working while we were together and left everything to them just so they could function even though they're a huge shopaholic and spent all the money when we were together on things like the biggest apartments, tinting their windows, and my personal favorite a $2000 special grammy's edition gucci watch
>huge blowup ensues, threats of lawsuits, calls to each others parents and best friends and the like to tell about all the bad shit that we did to each other
>have to scurry about for money
>eventually have to beg father for, yet another, loan
>get so mad kick a hole in the wall
>oh shit
>living in mom's house currently so she's probably gearing up to throw me out
>Now wondering if I have what it takes for this new job since I was always a shitty programmer
>I already owe this person $40,000 since I let guilt take over when we broke up over 'me being a bad investment' and agreed to help give them 40,000 over ten years
I'm so fucking done with relationships for a while. I have to meet up with him to get my shit back today, I'm tempted just to text him and tell him to leave all my shit on the front yard so I don't have to interact with him. I just know it'll be shitty rant this and shitty rant that and 'you're the scum of the earth' shit that makes my dick disappear into my own body.

On a serious note to people starting a relationship. Don't ever get a joint bank account. It'll be a clusterfuck that never ends, even if you think you love the person don't you ever fucking do it. Just sit down for financial discussions for every big purchase.
And don't ever, I repeat, don't you ever ever EVER buy a house together. Just get an apartment so that when the split comes, and it'll come, it'll be relatively painless to split.
No.393730
Anonymous
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>>393729
Annnnd just had a meeting with him
>Texts and asks me to leave his pet snake on the front porch
>Says "I'm going to stay inside, I don't know what I'll do if I see you thieving face"
>When I get there all my high school yearbooks and shit are thrown in the mud, everything's in disarray
>When I'm just about done he comes bounding out asking "WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO STEAL FROM ME"
>Tell him at LEAST $1000 is mine since I did all the work in two states for an entire year
>Tells me never to do it again and to have the money to him by Monday or else he'll tell everyone about that thing I did....
uh oh
>that thing being a realllllly disturbing and illegal thing I did when I was a depressed and abused kid, no I won't tell any on of you who ask. I'm quite ashamed of it and only told him when I was so drunk I was barely conscious
>Says I better have the money to him Monday or else everyone in town will know of it and my families reputation will be ruined and I'll be thrown in jail
Vengeful exes are bad, blackmailing vengeful exes are the worst. After this I really am swearing off relationships. I'll just pursue escorts or the like for the rest of my life, that way if it all gets too much I can at least pay them to leave.
No.393733
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393730
>I'll be thrown in jail
> a realllllly disturbing and illegal thing I did when I was a depressed and abused kid
Regardless of how disturbing it is it's animal sex isn't it, you won't necessarily go to jail; murder is the only general thing I'm aware of that has no statue of limitations, so you may want to look up your local laws and see if enough time has passed that they can't charge you for whatever it is. If there's no explicit limit, I think states have a catch-all limitation. Note that in some cases the clock doesn't start ticking until you are 18, but that's normally only if you are the victim.

This doesn't help with the other problems, of course, but it could be one less thing to worry about. Furthermore, what you just experienced with blackmail. You can go to the police/DA and perhaps build a case, but from the rest of it this doesn't seem like something that would appeal to you.

>threats of lawsuits,
>I already owe this person $40,000 since I let guilt take over when we broke up over 'me being a bad investment' and agreed to help give them 40,000 over ten years
Contractually? I know you have money problems, but even if this is in writing you should see a lawyer about it. That sounds like an agreement made under duress, and if it's verbal I doubt a court would give it a second thought. I'm not a lawyer, but my recommendation is that you don't pay this person shit. They are emotionally abusive and deserve neither you nor your money.

If you managed to get that $1000 from your dad, I recommend using it to consult a lawyer instead of paying them off. From what you're said, it sounds like the ex is trying to abuse more money out of you; if you can prove you were the breadwinner and made the vast majority of deposits into the account, you may even be able to sue them in small claims to get money back. Note that you will likely have to prove she spent it on extravagances, so ask the lawyer before actually trying. The lawyer may also help with your illegal thing in the past.

If you haven't already closed the joint account, do so as soon as possible. From the sound of it, you're better off just leaving whatever money is in the account behind. Also, if you have any money over after the lawyer, please see a therapist. I have the same feeling of uselessness myself and am looking for one, as well.

>Don't ever get a joint bank account.
> don't you ever ever EVER buy a house together
These are fine, but only if you've been with them for a long time and have an extreme amount of trust. Marriage helps in solidifying that, but is not a requirement nor guarantee. If you have a joint account, it shouldn't be either person's primary account, but a place to pool money to help the other out or to save up for something.

tl;dr: You're not the bad guy/girl here, anon. Start with the lawyer, lose all connections with the ex, and you can get back to your life.
No.393741
Chaplain Larry Tremaine
Your fortune: Godly Luck

>>393730
Stab him in the chest, earn your jail time.
No.393742
Anonymous
>>393730
Did you hook up with your dog.
Oh.
You probably diddled your kid cousin.
No.393814
Anonymous
>>393730

Unless he has proof of whatever you did, as in clear photographic/videographic proof, he's just an asshole making up lies and slander. Given your situation, everyone in the family and in law enforcement will laugh off any claims he says about what you did.

He's making desperate and meaningless threats; don't let it faze you.

But do get a lawyer.
No.393815
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>393814

>But do get a lawyer.

If for nothing else, get one to consult with about defamation.
No.393816
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393814
>everyone in the family and in law enforcement will laugh off any claims he says about what you did
Unless he has deep hooks within the community himself (though this sounds unlikely), in which case he'll have the pull to make Anon's life hell for some time even if no legal actions actually happen. If this happens long enough, there will be a nigh-permanent stigma on him in the community. In a small town this could make life extremely rough even if anon isn't the social type.

But, even with that in mind, I assume the ex's threats are empty.
No.393818
Anonymous
Replies:>>393819
Is the Youtube HTML5 player worth anything? Does it matter witch one I use?
No.393819
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393818
I was having trouble with their flash player not fully loading videos and switched to HTML5. The problem went away and I don't have any complaints; what's more, it seems ads don't appear (or maybe that's just my adblock, but they appeared when I watched the flash version.)
No.393827
Anonymous
I think if we go down the road of equality among men and women, where women are equally capable and independent, there needs to be a trade off. You can not want feminism and still expect men to do things for you all the time, buying you gifts, paying on dates, being chivalrous, etc.
No.393828
Anonymous
>>393827
...without doing all of that as well, at an equal rate. (Forgot that part)
No.393829
Anonymous
>>393827
>Blah blah blah "I'm the real victim here."
No.393831
Anonymous
>>393829
Not that anon, and it's not something that prevents me from being a fairly outspoken feminist for other issues (representation in media is probably my biggest bugbear), but it baffles me how some feminists, especially on Tumblr, still protest against rape laws that incriminate women in women-on-men or women-on-women related sex crimes for being misogynist, or are for women in the army yet reject mandating selective services for women as well as men.

I mean, if they actually did their women's studies seriously they'd know that first wave feminists fought really hard for these kinds of things, since part of recognizing women's equality is also recognizing our agency to do great deeds but also nasty ones just as men do. Likewise, now that women work and a lot of them (but not all) make more than their male partners, I think expecting men to always be the one to pay for a date even when they work a job with lower wages is an outdated and kind of unfair practice. Hell, personally I would find it patronizing for a guy to wine me and dine me and try to "buy" my interest rather than just splitting the bill.
No.393832
Anonymous
>>393829
I remember a girl from school who was the worst tumblr girl I have had the misfortune of seeing IRL. We did presentations about sport issues (violence, women, racism, etc.) and she got women in sport. The other two in her group were ok, maybe a little pushy, but this bitch right here, spouted a bunch of bullshit, and by bullshit I mean passing lies off as fact. She also said a whole lot of buzzwords like misogyny (I don't think any part of modern sport involves the hatred of women). It was cringey. And yes, she is really fat and dyes her hair. Like, her group at school all like Harry Potter and Homestuck and tumblr, but the rest of them aren't feminist liars with a victim complex (and I thank the universe for that).

Also, I shall quote one of my wisest friends (who doesn't 4chan, reddit or tumblr):
>a real feminist does not call herself a feminist
Those who fight for equality don't go around saying they are feminists. SUPREMACISTS call themselves feminists.
No.393833
Anonymous
>>393831 here.

>>393832
By your logic wouldn't that make all MRAs and people like Sarah Palin also supremacists too?
No.393834
Anonymous
Replies:>>393836
Since when do MRA's call themselves feminists?
No.393835
Anonymous
Replies:>>393838
>>393829
>>393832
Am I being trolled by the idiots from both sides at once here?
No.393836
Anonymous
>>393834
I know a lot of people who identify as both.
No.393837
Anonymous
>>393827
>>393831
>>393832

You're going to get mauled by a bear.
No.393838
Anonymous
Replies:>>393839
>>393835
>immediate multiple accusations of trolling
Please don't. It makes you sound like you are denouncing those who don't think like you. Be more accepting if you wish to have a good time on the discussion board.
No.393839
Anonymous
>>393838
Kind of hard for a discussion to happen when both of those posts are guilty of what you just mentioned. Too many times I've seen the former as a lame rebuttal to any attempts at calling out actual female supremacists on their views, while the latter is rife amongst r/TheRedPill and the battier wings of #GamerGate.
No.393840
Anonymous
>>393839
It's funny how you can name actual groups of misogynists like The Red Pill, but when you have to talk about "actual female supremacists" you can never name specific examples.
No.393841
Anonymous
Replies:>>393842
>>393839
Yep. I, for one, love a debate. Other people's views are interesting to me, even if they oppose my own. When someone else immediately uses a lame excuse (not even a rebuttal) to "defuse" an argument, it really make you not want to talk to them. To be honest, I couldn't give two fuck about gamergate, nor do I even know what is there to fight about, and since both sides are (from what I have heard) simply chucking shit at one another, it really isn't something I want to be a part of in any way.
No.393842
Anonymous
Replies:>>393846
>>393841
>"debating" polarizing issues on the internet

You'd think people who believe themselves to be smart would eventually learn how that turns out 100% of the time.
No.393843
Anonymous
Replies:>>393850
>>393840
Because Tumblr or Tumblr SJWs is too general and naming people like Misandry Mermaid, Drop My Cumberbritches, or outdated wackos like Sheila Jeffries is too narrow.
No.393844
Anonymous
>>393840
#feminism
#radfem
>specific examples
purrfectlilfemme
femfreq

Please, stop being an intolerant douche before you get banned under rule 1a. I don't know why you need to come here and lie just to try and prove something to yourself.
No.393846
Anonymous
>>393842
Which is why I said what I said: "it really isn't something I want to be a part of in any way." Trying to change stubborn people's minds is stupid. Just leave them blissfully ignorant, I say.
No.393848
Anonymous
Replies:>>393850
>>393831
>I think expecting men to always be the one to pay for a date even when they work a job with lower wages is an outdated and kind of unfair practice. Hell, personally I would find it patronizing for a guy to wine me and dine me and try to "buy" my interest rather than just splitting the bill.

Exactly, which was my point.

>>393829
>Blah blah blah "I'm the real victim here."

To which some immature assholes on this site don't bother to actually think of a thoughtful reply.
No.393850
Anonymous
Replies:>>393855
>>393848
>To which some immature assholes on this site don't bother to actually think of a thoughtful reply.

9 times out of 10 when a person says "But what about men?" they're attempting to deflect the issue at hand to point out some shit that they may or may not be personally going through.

It's silly because it's almost never used as a point of empathy, only to stifle discussion.

Also that dude's post was stupid. Who was he replying to exactly?

>>393843
How are specific examples too narrow...?
No.393851
Mister Twister
I post as anon on any boards that I don't frequent, for I believe that to be the right way of doing things. Anyone shares the same philosophy?
No.393853
Anonymous
Replies:>>393872
>>393851
There's not a "right" way to post on boards in regards to names.

You should always lurk before posting, but if the staff of a site wants the board to be all anon, then the staff needs to disable names and or trips.

Though I can totally understand picking up a name or trip for some places you're close to. I've considered getting one for +4 just because I hang out here a lot.
No.393854
Eating
>>393851
I post as anon unless it matters or it could matter, or if other people are naming I might join in. I mostly go anon on foreign boards.
No.393855
Anonymous
Replies:>>393858
>>393850
Seriously though how the hell did that anon get "but what about men" from the other person's post? It was clear to me that they were talking about women the entire time and basically saying that a sign of successful gender equality means that women not only get the same rights as men but also share the same burdens and responsibilities as well. Which is something I fully agree with as a feminist myself. If a guy chooses to open a door for me that's fine and all, but men shouldn't be obligated to do it either just because I'm a woman. I'm plenty strong enough to do it on my own.
No.393856
Anonymous
>>393827
Those kinds of traditions are wearing down. Maybe not at the same speed, but feminism and the recession are already making more equality for the sexes financially.
No.393858
Anonymous
>>393855
>but men shouldn't be obligated to do it either just because I'm a woman

Agreed.

But who even told him that he had to? That's where the issue arises. When you randomly come out and say things like that without context (such as a personal anecdote), it looks like you're trying to stir shit up.
No.393860
secret !secret ## secret
>>393851
i only ever post as anon

- secret
No.393862
Anonymous
Replies:>>393864
>>393858
The thread is "Speak Your Mind" so I spoke my mind. It came up when I was thinking about asking a girl out on a date. Obviously since it's my treat I should pay, but hypothetically what if we became an item? Or what if SHE asked me out instead? Society would still expect me to pay, or at least split the bill.
No.393863
Anonymous
>>393858
It's called the Speak Your Mind thread, I've seen odder stuff show up here. And I don't see how any mention of gender is necessarily trying to start shit. This kind of paranoia reminds me of how misogynists automatically assume any female gamer is also there to start shit by being an attention whore or SJW.

OK how about for an actual anecdote? Until recently I used to think most SJWs were trolls trying to make liberals look bad, but a girl I used to be friends with in high school turned into an uber-SJW over the last year. We actually got into a huge argument because she claimed that white people are incapable of being racist and that if anyone has the nerve to call a POC racist she will hun'8t them down and gut them. And when I pointed out that the term "racist" is race-blind she gave me the whole dumbass "privileged people cannot be racist, white people wrote the dictionary in the first place so of course it's going to be biased to favor them, it's OK to fight fire with fire because they started the fire", etc. And through it all the stereotypical SJW terms were on full blast. She told me to shut up because she doesn't have the spoons to deal with me, that I was causing her an anxiety attack and ableist for using the word "crazies" to refer to extreme black separatists, and when another girl chimed in to my defense we should all get out because Facebook is her "safe space", even though she doesn't suffer from any debilitating illness like lupus or anything. Then I found out she was a nonbinary queer who calls herself a nanogirl because she among other things likes to wear pants and that I'm an "TW: idiot" for assuming all trans people have dysphoria. She's strangely mum on the subject of feminism for someone like that though.

I'm lucky I got as far as I did due to having a decent number of points on the oppression olympics scale myself, and I want to think she was trolling really hard this time because she used to be really nice and not a big ball of hate, but she's always been fairly liberal and involved in social justice causes even before Tumblr was a thing, so she has no reason to troll like that.
No.393864
Anonymous
>>393862
So you don't even have a story like>>393863 does?

Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?
No.393865
Anonymous
>>393863
Oh and I forgot to mention she's also a huuuuge Attack on Titan fan. Hell, I think it's the AoT fandom that started her on this path in the first place.
No.393866
Anonymous
Replies:>>393868
>>393858
Really? Because responding with "Blah blah blah 'I'm the real victim here.'" sounds a lot more like shit stirring to me, and I'd think you'd know better than to post that if stirred shit is what you wanted to avoid.
No.393867
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393868
>>393864
>Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?
Maybe he's like me and goes through multiple potential scenarios in his head (ranging from realistic to fantastical) and the end result of all of the realistic ones is negative because I predetermined it so why even bother.
No.393868
Anonymous
Replies:>>393870
>>393866
More dismissive than shit stirring, but I digress.

>>393867
I want you to reread what you just wrote there until it becomes clear it's a bad idea. It's the equivalent of thinking about a move in a game then forfeiting the entire game because you think you know exactly how this one move is going to effect everything else.

It's lame and defeatist, and the worst part of it is that you've answered the question for the other person without giving him/her a chance to weigh in. At the very least, you have to let them answer for themselves.
No.393869
Anonymous
>>393864
>Why not try asking people out first instead of playing out the entire scenario before it even happens?

Because I wasn't doing that? I was thinking about the societal norm for this shit as a whole, not assuming anything between me and her.
No.393870
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
Replies:>>393876
>>393868
>It's lame and defeatist
It is, which is why I'm seeking out therapy.
No.393872
Mister Twister
>>393853
You should only pick a name if there is a name you want to use. I picked Mister Twister because it was sitting in the back of my mind for years, and I never used it anywhere.
No.393873
Anonymous
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Ok I know people are tired of feminism-related talk here, but this shit literally made me sick at my stomach.

https://imgur.com/gallery/zKhIH
No.393876
Anonymous
>>393870
>It is, which is why I'm seeking out therapy.

Glad to hear it and I hope it works out for you. In the meantime, don't be afraid to post about stuff here (I guess you wouldn't given you're here more than most). And that goes for everyone else.

I wonder if I should make a dummy email to talk to you guys with.
No.393878
The Sneaky Tiki
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>"Women in suits are ugly" Dirtbag in class.

OBJECTION
No.393879
Anonymous
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>>393878
Someone said that? Wow.
No.393883
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>393878

Wow, that person sounds like a douchebag.
No.393885
Anonymous
Replies:>>393886
>>393878
1) Women who don't know how to wear suits are just as bad as men who don't know how to wear suits.
2) Tailoring is everything.
No.393886
Anonymous
Replies:>>393889
>>393885
Pretty much. Also, it's okay to not find something attractive.
No.393889
Anonymous
Replies:>>393890
>>393886
>Also, it's okay to not find something attractive.

This. The fuck is you guys' problem?
No.393890
Anonymous
Replies:>>393895
>>393889
>The fuck is you guys' problem?
Who are you talking to
No.393891
Anonymous
fuck my ass

i realized today i'm not actively enjoying anything enjoyable i've been able to make myself do lately

i've just been kinda using it as a distraction/relief from how much not doing anything at all stresses me out, even though i think i'd prefer to be doing nothing at all, right down to just sleeping when i'm not at work because every fuckin thing is more effort than it's worth

i have GOT to call my primary tomorrow and get a referral for a shrink because i do not have time for depression i have enough shit to deal with
No.393892
Anonymous
>>393891
>fuck my ass
Don't mind if I do :3
No.393895
Anonymous
Replies:>>393899
>>393890
Everyone calling out >>393878

Apparently saying women in suits aren't attractive makes you a dirtbag.
No.393897
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393891
>i realized today i'm not actively enjoying anything enjoyable i've been able to make myself do lately
I have an appointment Wednesday for the exact same reason: I've been depressed for years, but I only realized in the last few months or so that I haven't really liked anything in a year or so. Anything I do is just to fill time; things I would have been excited for as recent as two years ago, like Sm4sh, are now simply blips on the radar. I'm still getting it because I have gift cards and so won't be paying out of pocket, plus it just feels like something I would do. Everything just feels like a chore now, something to fill the time between sleeping, and sleep just fills the time until death.

>i have GOT to call my primary tomorrow and get a referral for a shrink
Do it. Best of luck to you, Anon.
No.393899
Anonymous
>>393895
I don't think Tiki was being literal.
No.393902
The Sneaky Tiki
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The guy was literally calling all women who wear suits ugly, which does in fact make him a dirtbag.

He wasn't saying that women can sometimes look bad in a poorly tailored suit, he wasn't saying he personally finds women who wear suits unattractive.

He said, and I really shouldn't have to re-quote this "Women in suits are ugly" he specified that he considered any women who'd wear a suit ugly.

Like I said, dirtbag.
No.393903
Anonymous
People often say something looks bad to mean they personally don't like it, either because of self-centeredness or just being linguistically lazy.
No.393904
Anonymous
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I'm brainstorming ways one can get money as an artist online without looking like a jerk.
1) Paysite method: people who pay you can see all your drawings. Makes you look like a jerk, not many people will pay you and people will just rip them anyway.
2) Commission method: people pay you to make art specifically for them. Popular and proven.
3) moot style: instead of donating, you can buy rewards (such as bonus pics, higher quality/vector pics, sketches, personal requests, etc.). It didn't work well with moot's donors getting 4chan passes, but with art rewards it seems like it would work. This relies on people wanting the rewards and can make you sound like an outright money-whore.
4) Crowd-funding method: when donations reach a certain level, a new work is released. This can make donors feel cheated if freeloaders get the same benefits as them.
5) Kick-moot style: Think Kickstarter and moot method. Donors are rewarded for their donations with bonuses, and everyone is rewarded when you reach a certain amount of money. Probably the fairest method to all groups, and if combined with a lot of free works (only using larger works like comics and animation for crowd-funded rewards), this seems like the least jerky method apart from commissions.

>inb4 artists should stop being whores and do it all for free
No.393905
Mister Twister
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Went to a musician's FB page, saw this. Basically, that's why I still follow him. That old geezer still got it.
No.393906
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>393904

>Donors are rewarded for their donations with bonuses, and everyone is rewarded when you reach a certain amount of money.

Isn't this basically Patreon?
No.393907
Anonymous
Replies:>>393909
>>393904
>I'm brainstorming ways one can get money as an artist online without looking like a jerk.

You can't. The internet puts art and artists on a strange pedestal where they are outwardly treated as laudable, but any attempt to seek adequate compensation, or even any compensation, makes them evil. Art is not a trade skill in the minds of these people, it is a gift, and it is a gift that means you are required to work for them, for free.

You basically have two options: either give up on making money as an artist, or stop giving a fuck about the fact that some people are going to see you as a jerk for trying to make a living off of skills that take longer to develop than a medical degree.
No.393908
Anonymous
>>393906
Yeah, I think so...

I just really felt like calling it kick-moot at the time.
No.393909
Anonymous
>>393907
I agree wholeheartedly.

>[...] or stop giving a fuck about the fact that some people are going to see you as a jerk for trying to make a living off of skills that take longer to develop than a medical degree.
I remember this being said many times on old-/draw/, especially when someone was asking about dealing with commissions/requests from entitled freeloaders.
No.393910
Anonymous
>>393906
I just looked at Patreon and why are all the comics furry porn?

(that's rhetorical)
No.393911
Anonymous
>>393904
Oh, I forgot.
6) Kazerad style: convince your followers to make you win competition prizes. Pure lulz produced will override jerk factor.
No.393912
Anonymous
>>393904
Patreon is more for continuous content. At least thats what its best suited for.
A comic or some shorts.
The content itself would be free, and there'd be plenty of exclusive features for patrons.

ie written scripts, sketches, concept art, making of, streams of the art being made, so and so.
One good example of that would be My Life With Fel, which is... quite probably one of the furry porn comics you might've seen - but the guy makes a good living of an original idea of his.

The other one is commissions which I've been able to do for almost a whole month without seeming like a huge douchebag.
First off, don't be afraid your prices would be too high. If people are gonna spend money on art, especially porn, they're probably willing to spend way beyond one sketch pic.
And I mean WAY beyond.

The other is if you're doing porn, try not to restrict yourself to what you yourself are into, especially with commissions. Of course its healthy to have boundaries (like guro, scat, watersports, loli/shota if you don't want Donro kicking report-spamming you off tumblr) If people want inflation, you want to do inflation. Furry oversized dick, you do that.

Once you've got that down, you clear a major hurdle.
Not just that but you've opened yourself a huge high-spending audience if you spread word out just right.
Thank god for first world economic lifestyles.

All this of course is preceded by the fact that you'd already have an audience - or are allied with people who'll help you reach one. Ask to spread the word - as to reblog, retweet or mention notices of yours - don't be afraid of competition. You're that artist might be better than you at one thing but you're better at something they're not even good at.
Don't fret if at first you don't get anyone knocking - Always keep yourself clear and friendly - and don't hesitate when its time to mention cash.

(Many a time have I been asked for quotes, given a price and been answered with "Whoo! I thought you'd be 3x more! Man, I would've hesitated for a bit if you were!)

Be friendly, be open, be constantly reachable, be a *friend* to your clients even if you don't consider them so.

Consider streaming - you'll focus and work faster.
Consider yourself a professional - you'll start acting that way.
Consider yourself reasonable - not greedy.

The whole "seem like a jerk" thing?
That only happens when you have a large enough audience the 2% that think so would make itself audible.

Your friends don't think you're a jerk - other artists don't think you're a jerk - and your clients don't think like a jerk.

Best of luck.
And if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
No.393913
Anonymous
Replies:>>393918
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>>393912
I... wow. Thank you. This is perfect. I'm saving this to my hard drive.
No.393914
Autonymoose !x4vv0ZYuAo
>>393912
>Not just that but you've opened yourself a huge high-spending audience if you spread word out just right.
It's crazy the kind of things I see on HF that are commissioned in large sets. Large, large sets. A lot of people with more uncommon fetishes seem to have a lot of money.
No.393916
Anonymous
Replies:>>393917
So my cable provider is about to get rid of Comedy Central. What should I do about that?
No.393917
Mister Twister
>>393916
Politely ask why. Proceed from there.
No.393918
Anonymous
Replies:>>393919
>>393913
Glad I could be of service!

I'd like to see your artwork at some point, btw.
No.393919
Anonymous
Replies:>>393920
>>393918
>I'd like to see your artwork at some point, btw.
Oh, I'm nowhere near a level of art where I can actually consider getting money from it; I was just wondering about the (possible) future. I'm still figuring out basic human figure and art skills. http://imgur.com/a/pIaj2 if you insist. I'm improving rapidly though, so at least there's that.
No.393920
Anonymous
Replies:>>393922
>>393919
Aheh.
Well you keep at it, either way.

Remember, Loomis is your friend!
No.393922
Anonymous
>>393920
>Loomis
Thank you again. Seriously, this will really help.
No.393924
Anonymous
Replies:>>393931
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//youtube.com/watch?v=pPZDBF0kei0youtube thumb

LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

Pharrell has lost his damn mind. Again.
No.393929
The Sneaky Tiki
Windows 10, trying so HARD to get away from 8 it jumped a whole iteration.

But fuck, it looks actually fucking useable!
No.393931
Anonymous
>>393924
The song itself is pretty good. The video just reeks of "QUICK, YOU CAN'T LOSE STEAM FROM 'HAPPY' MAKE SOMETHING THE KIDS LIKE" though.

Not the first time he's been a dorky fuck, though.
Need I remind you of that Miku remix?
No.393932
Anonymous
Replies:>>393934
So what time does the Daily Show and Colbert Report get posted online? Because since Suddenlink and Viacom are still in a pissing match I'm going to have to use the site for a while.
No.393934
Anonymous
>>393932
Hulu always has them the morning after. You can probably find torrents up sooner.
No.393945
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
Welp, saw the doc. He agrees with severe depression and prescribed me Venlafexene, which I'll begin tomorrow, and a referral to their Mental Health department (which bumps me up the queue significantly.) Tomorrow I call them to set up something, as well.

Considering my history of medication (Peroxitine, Wellbutrin, Citalopram), hopefully this one will do nothing at worst.
No.393968
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
And now I have an initial pshrink session on the 8th. Here's hoping this guy turns out to be better than the other handful I've seen.
No.393969
Anonymous
>homestar runner
No.393975
Anonymous
Mustard with mashed potatoes is great. A little bit of peanut butter in chili is also good. Try it out sometime if you haven't.
No.393983
TeethandHunger
Well, back working at the haunted house. Slamming myself into plexyglass isn't so bad.
No.393984
Anonymous
Do you ever have dreams with people you know in them, and in those dreams they do something to offend you, but upon waking you're still angry at them for a while despite knowing it's because of the dream version of them?
I'm glad I don't often remember having dreams.
No.393992
Anonymous
Replies:>>393998
>meet girl
>extremely talented and extremely cute
>also a hardcore gamer
>also a sweetheart
>also single
>very nerdy in both looks and personality, assume she's NEET
>we hang out a lot, have a lot in common
>one night I ask her out, she says yes
>hear later from one of my friends that she's a social butterfly, which she later mentions one night
>tons of people who know her, involved in 8 school clubs, managing 6 classes at once plus a job
>meanwhile I'm a social wreck, involved in no clubs and pretty much a nobody save for a few friends I hang out with regularly
>don't particularly want to be a social butterfly, shit makes me uncomfortable

All couples I've seen were either both "normal and social" or both antisocial as fuck. What would it take for the two to mix well?
No.393994
Anonymous
My dad's obsessed with OK Go lately. Calling them the modern Beatles and stuff. It's weird.
No.393998
Anonymous
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>>393992
Opposites attract.
Seriously, don't stress about it. She likes you, you like her. She might ask if you can come with her and hang out with her friends. No biggy, just learn to be social. Practice is key.
No.394004
Anonymous
Thread is dying, new one pls
No.394037
Autonywork !x4vv0ZYuAo
New thread at: >>394007
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