/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

>>212807
>>212810
I meant CDAnon, fuck

>>212810
Oh hey, it's pizz-*SPLAT*
...
Can't you at least give me soda with that?

Btw, no, I don't have a beef with Nostalgia Critic. I just didn't want real people in the collab, because I wanted to keep it to /co/ for the spirit of the board. I didn't say "no anime," "no vg" too because I don't want to impose too much. Better to go little steps and hear what everyone else says.

Lastly, I'm claiming Jenny

>>212812
Hey, CDArt, I like it. From now on my art shall be known as CDArt (the artist is still CDAnon, no confusion)

Btw, which drawfag are you? If any.

>>212820
Oh, I didn't see any Emmet posting, nor Emilia art. I did see some posts with her face. I watched some episodes of Prilimpimpim, nice stuff, Emilia reminded me of Bloo.

The Robotnik v Coyote was kino.

>>212822
I don't know what to say.

Regarding the all characters idea, maybe we could make a separate collab for each side tourney. But not separated by sex (males and females together, just separate tourney). That way we don't saturate the pictures and still get to represent everyone.

Eh, exceptions can be made. Didn't read the full list, but assumed more oddities would be there. But I blame Barred for it, since you can out anything there.

Fair, their are some oddballs in that list, just as many weird and obtuse Barred winners as there are actual /co/ winners, but for the likes of /co/nrad and Option 1, you could at least make arguments for them being /co/.

Anyway, how should we do these posters? Any specific theme in mind? Because I'm kinda drawing blanks right now.

>>212807
It's amazing how just looking at this pic I can tell this was made in 2002 at the absolute latest. I feel old and this wasn't even my childhood per say.

>>212842
What comes to mind is the olympus, with each winner in their throne. If we go for the extended cut... We cut on the olympus and simply put their heads in the clouds, with some greek garments.

>>212861
Oh, that is also a great idea. Imagining how cartoonishly violent it can get

>>212863
Coolio, I'll whip up a rough sketch for each idea tomorrow.

>>212807
>>212816
>>212833
I propose we replace Soundwave with the Nostalgia Critic

>>212886
I didn't pay attention to the side tourneys, what was going on with Soundwave and Leonardo? Aside from winning that is.

>>212893
People don't like Soundwave because he was a cope nominee for barred.

>>212895
I mean, he was BARRED from the main bracket by way of the series limit

>>212897
This was disproven more than once and you can look at the qualifiers results itself.

>>212895
At this point I think there's one person with a bizarre hateboner for Soundwave of all characters.

>>212886
t. Voted for Critics in /cov/

>>212898
That makes him the the most barred of all rather than a coper pick.

>>212893
Basically, a lot of people were dumbfounded he dominated all his Barred matches despite not having a whole lot of support.

Soundwave was probably as rigged as Snowman.
Side tourneys are easily riggable cause they're small. And I doubt the hosts for care to check for rigs much.

>>212929
>rigged as Snowman
So not at all then.

>>212930
If by not at all you mean obvious as fuck.

>>212933
I have yet to hear why it was obvious rigging outside of "I didn't want her to win."

>>212934
Literal who.

>>212937
It was 128th seed, the characters were lesser known by default. Also the Snowman character is somewhat better known by actual HS fans.

I’m more confused as to why Soundwave of all characters was able to beat CIA, Fellow American Down on his Luck, Monkeys, Cool Autistic Gamer, and Character You Forgot to Nominate in one go (most of them by huge margins) who are arguably more fitting winners for Barred and were even subjects of thread long discussions. I literally haven’t seen anyone talk about Soundwave regarding Barred so it feels weird he was able to win over those characters.

>>212966
/co/ just really likes Transformers.

>>212967
That doesn’t mean he’s a good Barred winner, he’s a cope pick in every sense of the word since the series limit excuse was debunked.

>>212967
We’re voting for characters, not franchises

>>212969
Anon you realize Transformers can also refer to the characters and not just the franchise, right?

>>212929
>Soundwave was probably as rigged as Snowman
You do realize there was like 150 characters nominated for the first Ms /co/ right
There was some ridiculous 80% chance a character made the actual bracket that year

>>212968
If someone is voting for a pick they like then to them that would be a good winner. I don't get why /tnt/ is getting so anal and gatekeepy over not being the right funpost pick.

>>212972
I don’t get why anons become defensive whenever Soundwave gets criticized.

>>212971
Okay but winning a tourney against eight way more recognized characters is another thing.

>>212974
>people have a meltdown for days over a side tourney most people don't pay attention to
>questioning this somehow makes you defensive
Okay.

>>212940
This is basically admitting HSfags were majority voters in that tourney. It’s nonsense they’d win otherwise.

>>212976
>recognized characters
We have main character's mom, a superhero more known for a shitty MCU show, a minor DP villain, and a supporting character from a show everyone hates.
Truly a stacked line up, how could Snowman ever defeat this.

>>212979
It's a fucking side tourney. That's not the most ridiculous thing I've heard regarding this "controversy".

>>212980
And snowman is a literal who from a shitty webcomic meme series that was banned on the board several years ago and has never been able to qualify shit. If you wanna be reductive the other picks were still way more notable.

>>212966
Because people treating barred as a literal copers tourney. Soundwave is basically the Brisby this year.

>>212982
>If you wanna be reductive the other picks
Bro is really catching feelings over Dexter's mom and a Helluva Boss character.

>>212977
It’s not unfair to assume it’s anons being defensive when there’s already an accusation of One Guy being the mastermind behind the “meltdown”. Soundwave being an underwhelming Barred winner isn’t a controversial opinion.
>>212903

I opened a Pandora's Box.

>>212984
All side tourneys are copers tourneys by default. If you're barred from the main tournament, you shouldn't get shit.

>>212985
>faggy zoomer non-response

>>212990
>faggy tantrum over a side tourney

>>212987
/tnt/ and side tourneys were mistakes.

>>212986
>Soundwave being an underwhelming Barred winner isn’t a controversial opinion.
Most people in the threads did not care for the side tourneys and were questioning why people were so up in arms for a meme tournament. Considering this place also had a fit over Soundwave in tag team, this seems to be looking more and more like a vocal minority at best.

I have the answer to why Snowman won:
1. She was already known and kind of a meme for being the only Homestuck character to properly qualify in Ms. /co/.
2. Someone was linking the polls to the main Homestuck thread, albeit this only happened for the last two rounds.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150596051/#q150601902
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150625421/#q150627185
As for Soundwave, no idea desu. I would assume he might have had someone encouraging votes for him elsewhere, but I do find it weird he was an especially contentious winner in what is just a side tournament for tourneyheads with no silent majority.

>>212989
People probably forgot but bottom/barred kind of side tourneys aren’t old things, they first happened in ms. 2023 during the peak of the NSA campooner cope atmosphere and when loser’s bracket was trying to be forced and voting was in the OC anchor ect.. They are the result of continually wanting to expand and accommodate. Not saying it’s inherently a bad thing but they are pretty much all cope tourneys.

>>212982
>And snowman is a literal who from a shitty webcomic meme series
I will say it again, but Homestuck is Literally Just western Umineko (and with a pathetic asshole of a creator). It's both far better and far worse than what people who haven't read will ever be able to conceive.

I don’t even want to know the reaction if Hummer Guy or Godzilla won next 128.

>>212995
If it was nothing more than a meme tournament no one cares about, you should be able to dismiss those posts and move on.

>>213002
Based winners.

>>213003
And you shouldn’t be dragging it out in a thread that has nothing to do with that.

>>213005
So why even reply?

>>213003
If it was nothing more than a meme tournament you should move on from Brisby, Soundwave and Snowman.

>>213007
Why even post?

What were the rules to qualify for barred?

>>213009
Why live?

>>213010
I don't think there were any rules after a while. Guymanbro was literally just asking any suggestions this year and last year so I don't think even he vets it this much.

>>213010
Supposedly to be barred.

>>213013
So you had to be in the qualification list for the normal tourney, and not being eligible for next and bottom?

>>213013
Considering how little genuine funposts there are now, literally anything nominated could go in. I have submitted leftovers from next and bottom and they went in without problem.

>>213004
Hummer Guy is a meme pick and Godzilla isn't even /co/. You are ruining the sanctity of these side tournaments.

>>213016
Snowman and Soundwave get scrutiny cause they feel like rigging/brigading from a specific cope group. Gozlilla and meme guy would be normal and fitting.

>>213010
>"Biggest rule is your character must have been sufficient evidence of being posted during qualifiers. This means no on-the-fly made up bullshit that doesn't have an available desuarchive source (Weed Girl) or boys that couldn't even muster to show up (I.E Muscle Man, Meatwad and Gumball)"

>"Biggest rule +1 is that your character of choice is incompatible if they already fit the criteria to make it into any of the other tournament brackets. Despite it's popularity, Barred takes the least character priority to Top 128, Bottom 128 or Next 128 (129-256) in order to not step on their toes with repeat nominees. Also helps prevent smurfing."
>"No previous champions (Nostalgia Critic and /co/nrad) either."

>"Otherwise anyone who's
>>Failed to get enough votes in any of these categories
>>Were nominated properly but weren't added to the qualifiers
>>Cucked by their series-limit
>and such are a-okay!"

Soundwave would've very likely been cucked by that Next 128 rule, but due to his two separate nominations not getting enough support he was allowed in

>>213021
Why would TFags need a cope pick when they had three competitors in the main bracket. These rigging/brigading accusations get stupider.

>>213022
>but due to his two separate nominations
Source?

>>213022
Why even call it barred. Literally rename it the copers tourney lol.

>>213024
>three competitors in the main bracket
All jobbed.

>>213026
Because all side tournaments are coper tourneys so it would be redundant. Logically barred by series limit is a cope as is and that's been there since day one.

>>213022
I still think he was the worst winner this time, but that's funny if that's how he even got in Barred. Basically barred from two tournaments.

>>213028
Optimus got to round 4, only losing to the winner.

>>213030
Being barred from two tournaments makes him the most barred of them all and thus the best.

You guys should frankly takes this Mr. Sir The Guyman Bro instead of idly complaining after the fact.

>>213033
I don't think he wants to talk to us after the Brisby controversy.

>>212987
You should have just allowed the Nostalgia Critic in the poster

>>213025
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150779143/#150779379
I fucked up and didn't read the dates properly, so he was only nominated once but point still stands
insane to think we wouldn't be having this slapfight if just 2 more people remembered to include the Decepticon in their replyspam

>>213036
I'm pretty sure the complaints would still be there.

For what it's worth, I thought people shitting on Blacksad for being a "/tnt/ pick" was stupid and uncalled for considering the comic gets lots of love on /co/.

>>213040
I'm to blame, I shouldn't have asked.

>>213041
Anons tend to think that if someone doesn't qualify for the main 128, they aren't liked on the board. So I guess that means stuff like Megas XLR or Wakfu were never liked on /co/.

>>213041
I'm not even sure the guy mainly campaigning him comes here.

So far, all I gathered is that:

1.- Some people thought he was barred from series limit, which wasn't the case, but he was still elegible cause he was nominated, but didn't qualify.
2.- People didn't want a non-meme pick to win a meme side tourney.
3.- Rigging accusations

With that I say ny curiosity is satisfied. Now I ask something new, who here actually wants to collaborate with the poster?

>>213043
Hell, I remember Star Wars shit pre-TFA was damn near admired on /co/. Ahsoka probably would've won Ms. by now.

>>213041
That's because he was another furry winner.

>>213051
Clone Wars damn near admitted but even before TFA, Filoni's show was pretty divisive. Hell the real problem was TLJ so had the tournaments but just two years sooner.

>>213053
Furries don't exactly like Blacksad very much - in fact, it gets put on blast often because the anthro women Guarnido draws that are meant to be attractive are very humanized.

>>213016
>a meme pick being a problem when Nostalgia Critic was the first winner
CIA should've won btw.

>>213062
This is referring to next not barred reading comprehension kun.

>>213051
TCW has always been too controversial. The fact the 2020 season did nothing for Ahsoka yet 2003 Grievous could win a year later says a lot.
Actually, I'm surprised this is not brought up more, because I can remember a lot of board spite towards the new TCW season and Filoni was what brought revitalized interest for 2003 Clone Wars.

>>213062
>/tv/ still butthurt

>>213063
Same point.

>>213066
No because they're different tourneys.

>>213062
>implying CIA wouldn't have also been a meme pick
He's nothing without Baneposting.

So basically the idea that Barred was for funposts and memes only was never true and this fighting over side tourneys is pointless and yet another example of drama farming.

>>213070
>implying CIA wouldn't have also been a meme pick
That's literally the point.

>>213073
What point? That meme picks wouldn't be a problem if your preferred meme pick won instead?

>>213077
I never said meme picks were a problem. Isn't this argument about Soundwave?

If Aang, Boomhauer, or Rolf won, people would also complain about them not being meme picks despite fitting the qualifications perfectly. It's like ms. where people can't desire what the tournament is.

>>213071
This has been the case since 2023's Ms. The only one to be fully restricted characters only was 2022's king

>>213080
Come to think of it, those characters weren't even in this year's Barred tourney despite literally being barred.
https://challonge.com/maadness

>>213080
They weren't in lol. Also i doubt it since they're all more notable than Soundwave. Another factor here is Soundwave stomping against seemingly better opponents.

>>213086
Why would being more notable matter in a supposed meme contest?

>>213087
I never called it a meme contest.

>>213089
That's the argument being laid out here. Which is it already?

>>213091
I don't think it's inherently a meme contest. I do think Soundwave is kinda weird in similar way to Snowman. Him winning by large margins over everyone as a 3rd tier transformers character. Feels like a forced cope win from a very tourney-core kind of voting bloc.

>>213092
Tourney core voting blocs were pushing for Shitpost Monkeys and CIA, especially after being screwed over in main brackets.

If we're being honest, Crusader Rabbit was kind of a cope win for Bullwinkle after he lost.

The only thing I got from all of this discussion is that the Nostalgia Critic is /co/ culture and should be an integral part of the art collab.

>>213098
If he was /co/ culture then why did people choose Cyclops over him?

>>213097
Wasn't Bottom hosted by Augie? I severely doubt everything about it was genuine.

>>213098
He unironically should. I would say the same about AVGN and /v/.

Soundwave being popular isn't that crazy when Transformers in general had a resurgence in the tourney. He already surprised people last year when he somehow actually qualified for Mr. 2024

>>213097
I didn't want to say anything since Crusader Rabbit does have plenty of genuine good qualities like being the first animated show for television but
>Augie takes over Bottom 128
>Immediately something adjacent from a show he's obsessed with wins

>>213100
>Wasn't Bottom hosted by Augie?
Yeap.

>>213099
/cov/ is a /tnt/ tournament, not a /co/ tournament.

>>213099
>>213101
Maybe we could replace Dreams Never Die with the Angry Critics.

>>213105
/co/ doesn't let him in normally while /v/ lets AVGN in.

>brings the topic to /tnt/
>it's jsut a bunch of meta arguing
lmao.

>>213108
Legitimately I have no idea what this thread is about anymore, I'm so confused

>>213100
>>213103
Was Leo the only clean winner or did TMNT bros rig that too?

>>213111
>Leo
This also felt like kind of a cope win after some complaints started about TMNT never doing anything in tourneys despite their fame.

>>213112
At the very least, he was the least shit pick out of the final four, even Fred Flintstone was Augie infected.

>>213113
I voted Fred. I never and still do not give a fuck about this Augie faggot.

What still confuses me the most and is rarely ever brought up is how the fuck Arthur has never done anything in tourneys despite having all the cards of a series that should be a hit in these things. Maybe we can cope sympathize a side tourney win for them next year.

>>213130
I think you're posting it at the right time, now that the discussion died.

>>213130
I like how that looks. It's what I was thinking about when you proposed the Smash pic.

>>213115
Did Arthur even get enough votes for next 128?

>>213152
who needs fire powers when you've got a fuckin' dinosaur

>>213167
Mmmhhh, very good, very good. In honor of an acquaintance of mine, I would have Jenny with some giant laser canon. She could be in the same spot, either aiming it at Fang or Spidey, while Spidey is trying to clog it with his web. Suddenly I thought of "Ultimate Showdown for Ultimate Destiny."

Another idea I had is that since Frankie can't fight for herself, she could be riding a charging Edward. Alternatively, based on Boxing anon art, she sends her imaginary clone to do the dirty work. Oooooor, plan C, she's wielding a broom like a quarterstaff against grievous. Option D is swapping her with Ms. Monarch, Kronk is spilling cookies and Frankie is devastated by that.

I love Fang, Zorak, Spinel, Daffy, Kronk, Grievous, Raven, Wuya and Spidey, I wouldn't change anything about them. I like what Skeletor and Tom is doing, but have a feeling they could have a different position. Betty Boop and Johnny, I'm not convinced.

I need to think about the others before I can give more ideas.

>>213170
>Edward
Which Edward are we talking about here? You mean Edwardo?

>>213173
Yeah, him

>>213175
I wrote wrong some things... G.3 is blank cause I meant to put Betty there, thought of nothing. O2.4, "she" refers to Frankie.

>>213175
Yeah, these sound like good changes, I'll try to put them in.

>>213181
>Skeletor kicking Betty
Genius!
I say this is perfect. I don't think we're getting any second opinion soon, unless I try to grab some people from other threads, which is a coin toss after what happened yesterday.