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No.183697
/v/ Co-Op 2025: SemifinalsSamaritanon !!0q4n9L7G/iU
Replies:>>183740
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Keep all tournament talk ITT.

—Timer: https://itsalmo.st/time-for-finals-cfik

►VOTE: https://forms.gle/ogiYVHwdkgZViCjdA

►Nominations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16OqD1jFvDGm9qRBz64W8zs2sgGtzoWH-JODDRJgcCsc/edit?usp=sharing
►Qualifiers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16R-I9dFu_OqLbjMPGDRkzZzV4TbTPYldJ0eYopQ6uF0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
►Round 1: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenUpuYkV3rbHeVFiLR17XiKbRVFuG2_LqF3YaM8VMXv_rlXQ/viewanalytics
►Round 2: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScWPfyPlp5qv-ETV3SLwGxllfbx2F2cVMlvje6lpyvFcOlpQA/viewanalytics
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►Round 4: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdgsFwvXamh05dkwNnAgVmJEYj3UB45Wf7dc93CFcKkxc26Rg/viewanalytics
►Quarterfinals: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6m7ea6F9UuDTHZZN5-y8qCZHwq1Q1QMwSGHfTZZXOw5JiKg/viewanalytics

►Bracket: https://challonge.com/ezhjpyni

►OC (Upload here)
https://4tourney.wikitide.org/wiki/Co-op_2025/Gallery
https://queenkingv.booru.org/

>Past winners:
The Glamgals (Roxanne Wolf and Glamrock Chica) (2023)
Knockout Kings (Little Mac and Doc Louis) (2024)

>Judges
Yotsuba
/v/-tan
Tre/vr/
Samus Aran
Senator Armstrong

>Host(s)
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
Samaritanon !!0q4n9L7G/iU
No.183698
Samaritanon !!0q4n9L7G/iU
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OC ANCHOR
No.183701
Anonymous
Replies:>>183710
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Open for business.
No.183703
Anonymous
Replies:>>183729
Image:174018320657.jpg(416kB, 761x1000)Patchouli.Knowledge.full.1950912.jpg
avenge the fattened
No.183705
Anonymous
Replies:>>183707
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That was a blast holy shit. I really had fun doing King Boo and Hellen again this time. I apologize if I didn't post often though I feel like I could have made more but I also didn't want to flood it and overshadow the other teams. Either way, I'm fucking happy these two made it elite 8, I couldn't have asked for more even though the signs were already there about his eventual downfall. See you guys around!
No.183706
Anonymous
A fat chick lost?
No.183707
Anonymous
>>183705
it was a fun match, just wish i wasn't sick
No.183708
Anonymous
my votes

Kool Kruel and Kold-Blooded (idk, both are solid but I like them as winners more)
BUILD KINGS (tough match, love both and will root for whoever wins this, but I think Duke and Caleb are more unique and underappreciated while Travis gets enough love already)

5th: Hocotate Freight (probably should've won)
6th: Tale of Ruin (better option of these last three)
7th: King Boo's Mansion (meme team, but from good games I guess)
8th: Librarians from Separate Dimensions (the Touhou cult has destroyed enough)
No.183709
Anonymous
Eh, I feel like whoever wins between bloodnukem and the cowboys, will win this tourney easily.
No.183710
Anonymous
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>>183701
Holy shit! It's Duke motherfucking Nukem! Took ya FOREVER to get to Elite 8, huh?
>...
Alright, sorry, I had to get this out of my system. Seriously though, you rule man! It's gonna be an honor to kick your ass!
>Am I suposed to know who that is?
Henry, how the hell can you not know Duke motherfucking Nukem?
>I have a life. Sides, he's not the only wanker standing here. Mind introducing yerselves for the non-dryshites in the audience before we get to business?
No.183711
Anonymous
My votes

>el jobbear
>duki nuki

>bikmin
>fatchouli
>king boobies
>the other one
No.183712
Anonymous
I think whichever team wins the tournament should make out it'd be kinda hot
No.183713
Anonymous
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>...
...hey, Angela.
>We've been waiting for you, Roland.
Can't even wait until I'm out of the 5th-8th match?
>No.
Someone please kill me already.
No.183714
Anonymous
Replies:>>183723
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GOOOOOOOOOD MOOOORNING /TNT/
soooo when do we get started with the doomposting?
No.183715
Anonymous
whoever wins gets to fuck little mac and doc louis, make these winners count
No.183716
Anonymous
Replies:>>183720
>>183708
What the fuck did Touhou fans even do to you?
No.183717
Anonymous
Replies:>>183727
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>>183710
Oh, me? I'm your best reason to be afraid, kids.
No.183718
Anonymous
Replies:>>183734
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>>183710
I was born to be Elite 8.
No.183719
Anonymous
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We have finally reached semifinals!
>About time we made it! Would you look at that? Isn't it none other than Donkey Kong's archenemy, K. Dick Baals
I think his name is King K. Rool, Kazooie.
>Right, I think I misspelled it. It's Shit Baals after all
Now that sounds more like it, let's beat that knock off Kazooie of his
>Damn right, I found my faker!
No.183720
Anonymous
>>183716
Touhou is an ugly franchise but also I'm sick of its cultist fanbase who don't even play the games act like it's the greatest thing in the world and suck ZUN's dick at every opportunity
No.183721
Anonymous
>>183708
>Travis gets enough love already
Isn't that a good sign in a favorite character contest?
No.183722
Anonymous
>>183720
>t. Buck broken by Reimu winning
No.183723
Anonymous
Replies:>>183724
>>183714
My votes fag already pointed it out; we're not going to have fun underdogs and just get some boring traditionalist winner
No.183724
Anonymous
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>>183723
https://vocaroo.com/1adoLIprAolM
No.183725
Anonymous
Replies:>>183728
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>>183708
Olimar: This homo sapien's obsession with aggravating the rest of them has gotten out of hand.
Louie: … Can I eat it?
No.183726
Anonymous
>>183720
>These people like some thing I personally find ugly? They're all cultists!!!
I don't even like Touhou but you’re acting like a bitch.
No.183727
Anonymous
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>>183717
Really? Ya look more like a washed-up pox headbanger, wannabe tough kinda fella to me.
No.183728
Anonymous
>>183725
You last. Don't overstay your welcome.
No.183729
Anonymous
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>>183703

I'm not fat; my gown is just long and wide, okay? So stop with this nonsense.
No.183730
Anonymous
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>>183728
No.183731
Anonymous
>>183720
Touhou is tourneyfag core.
No.183732
Anonymous
Co-op winners ranked:
>1. Knockout Kings
>2. whoever wins this
>3. Glamgals
No.183734
Anonymous
Replies:>>183738
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>>183718
Well, I won't argue with that. But were you born to be the best? Does your blood boil at the chance to prove you're the king? I bet it does. But not as much as mine.
No.183735
Anonymous
Replies:>>183752
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>>183727
My brother Caleb beat the shit out of the Dark God by himself. Everyone wanna-be as tough as him.
No.183737
Anonymous
Image:174018451048.jpg(22kB, 376x376)Ridley.jpg
I need more RAGE for my machine, where's that stupid bitch?
No.183738
Anonymous
Replies:>>183759
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>>183734
My blood don't boil, it ionizes... I'm Duke NUKE-em, baby. All nuclear, hotter than the sun.
No.183739
Anonymous
Replies:>>183743
Image:174018458093.png(61kB, 355x328)1693888684079504.png
>Even BanJOKE and KWABzooie are more successful than King Boo
No.183740
Anonymous
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>>183697
YOU DUMB BITCHES. YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCHES. DO YOU REALIZE HOW GENUINELY ANGRY YOU HAVE MADE US. LOOK AT PIKACHU. LOOK AT HIM. I NEED TO CALL A FUCKING VET BECAUSE HE'S BEEN MAKING THIS FACE FOR THE PAST HALF HOUR. I GOT SO MAD I SIPHONED ALL THE ENRGY FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. GET RID OF THOSE DAMN PIRATES NOW.
No.183741
Anonymous
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Well shit, I didn't expect the Pikmin team to lose.
Not sure who I want to more now, Banjo-Kazooie or the Smash bros Scalies.
No.183742
Anonymous
Replies:>>183747
>>183728
Don't be so touchy. 5th - 8th is still a vote, other people that lost are still posting, and joking around a bit is fine. I also had a minor spelling mistake.
No.183743
Anonymous
>>183739
Not after this round
No.183744
Anonymous
Image:174018474548.jpg(48kB, 704x540)STOP NOW.jpg
No.183745
Anonymous
Replies:>>183751
>>183741
Banjo-Kazooie, more so because I like the first game more than Tooie
No.183746
Anonymous
Replies:>>183752
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>>183727
You know what the books say - it's the inside that matters. How about i turn you inside out to see what you're made of?
No.183747
Anonymous
>>183742
This, people underrate being able to campaign for 3rd/5th
No.183748
Eggman
>>183740
Damn, Pikachu looks pretty hot
No.183749
Anonymous
Replies:>>183769
>>183741
As their campaigner, I was expecting them to lose in a blowout after all the close calls. I just want them in King now even if they lose early.
No.183751
Anonymous
>>183745
Yeah that's my reasoning. They feel like such a definitive "team".
No.183752
Anonymous
Replies:>>183755
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>>183735
>>183746
Say, in my experience, fellas that talk the big game tend to have jack all to show for it. Ya won't hear me call myself "the one who beat the shite out of the one who beat the shite out of the Dark God" after this is over.
No.183753
Anonymous
SHITmus lost, CHADley fucking WON
No.183754
Anonymous
Replies:>>183757
Image:174018545193.png(471kB, 490x770)Kleiner_bust.png
As much as I am glad those monkeys have been slain, I'm afraid I'm going to have to do everything I can to ensure the reptiles do not win as well, for they have indirectly contributed to me and the madame's loss through their shitty duck match.
No.183755
Anonymous
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>>183752
>Ya won't hear me call myself "the one who beat the shite out of the one who beat the shite out of the Dark God" after this is over.
I'm not buying a wrestling job from you, but thanks.
No.183756
Anonymous
Replies:>>183779
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FRIEZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.183757
Anonymous
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>>183754
>D-doctor.... that's a bit too much...
No.183758
Anonymous
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No.183759
Anonymous
Replies:>>183761
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>>183738
Even a nuke is just one part of the sheer, all-consuming, awe-fucking-inspiring madness of battle. The madness I happen to be a master of. But hey, only one way to find out for sure, right?
No.183760
Anonymous
Replies:>>183768
I wish there was more Banjo and Kazooie posting right now considering their dialogues in-game are a treasure trove of matierial to work with
No.183761
Anonymous
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>>183759
The reason nobody ever sees a nuke in a fight is cause it ends it. Come get some!
I almost wish there was a 3-team Co-Op so I could do BUILD Emperors with Lo Wang included, only issue is he doesn't work with ElevenLabs at all but I haven't used it as much as I intended to anyway.
No.183763
Anonymous
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>>183740
YES YES! LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU!
>>183719
A fucking BIRD! You're comparing me with your talking fleshlight? I'll make sure your pain is slow and painful!
No.183766
Anonymous
From best to fine winners imo:
>1. Bear and Bird
>2. BUILD KINGS
>3. K. Rool/Ridley
>4. Cowboys
I don't have anything else to say. I'm fine with whoever wins at this point.
No.183767
Anonymous
Replies:>>183848
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...
No.183768
Anonymous
>>183760
Let me try!
>Banjo: GUH HU HUHU HUH HU HU
>Kazooie: RAWK AWAK RA AK AWK ARAK
No.183769
Anonymous
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>>183749
On a similar note, I was fully expecting the Librarians to lose all their matches, especially when they were up against the top seed immediately, so I'm glad they made it to Elite Eight. Wish I could've done more for Roland but I've been sick most of this week. I plan on doing stuff for him again in King this year, even if I imagine he'll lose early again.
No.183770
Anonymous
Replies:>>183776
>>183768
That Grunty did WHAT!?
No.183771
Anonymous
>>183768
That King Boo did WHAT!?
No.183772
Anonymous
>>183768
KAZOOIE THIS IS A BLUE BOARD WTF
No.183773
Anonymous
>>183768
That's actually fucking disgusting
No.183774
Anonymous
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>>183768
...wow, just wow. I'm at a loss for words. I get it, I think shit is pretty sexy, but that is just gross.
No.183775
Anonymous
>>183768
You're right, remodeling Ridley's shithole is too lenient!
No.183776
Anonymous
Replies:>>183777
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>>183770
do not listen to the bear and bird lies
as this round will be their demise
No.183777
Anonymous
Replies:>>183778
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>>183776
YOU PROMISED NO MORE RHYMING
No.183778
Anonymous
>>183777
I guess gerty's gone two timing
No.183779
Anonymous
>>183756
Maybe if you give the password he'll come
No.183780
Anonymous
Real question though
How many of here also got sick? My symptoms are something irritating in my throat and also a lot of flu. I've been dealing with this shit for the past few days
No.183781
Anonymous
>>183780
I have a scratchy throat but that's it thankfully. Still isn't fun having this.
No.183782
Anonymous
Here's my crew
>Kool Kruel and Kold-Blooded
>BUILD KINGS
>5th: A Tale of Ruin
>6th: Hocotate Freight
>7th: Librarians From Separate Dimensions
>8th: King Boo's Mansion
No.183783
Anonymous
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>>183698
please don't break their hearts any further :(
No.183785
Anonymous
Replies:>>183786
>>183783
I'm surprised Patchi could even fit in the bar considering how much of a fat fuck King Boo is
No.183786
Anonymous
>>183785
bonne had an extra wide door built for her patrons
No.183787
Anonymous
>>183783
The FATTEST Elite Eight members...
No.183788
Anonymous
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>>183780
Goku is sick too, he has Ligma
No.183789
Anonymous
You could've prevented getting sick if Alex Mercer and the X parasites were here
No.183790
Anonymous
>Semifinals has everyone sick and in bed
No.183791
Anonymous
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>>183780
>Potential Men casting sickness debuff on all the campaigners for letting them lose in round 1
No.183792
Anonymous
No.183793
Anonymous
>>183791
Bros... we should've let Geralt make his fourth E8 in a row...
No.183794
Anonymous
>>183793
>Alex is such a shit character even Geralt can't carry him
No.183795
Anonymous
>>183794
Blaming Alex when they were taking on Travis Touchdown and Henry feels a bit silly
No.183796
Anonymous
Frieza....
No.183797
Anonymous
Replies:>>183807
Image:174020065322.jpg(127kB, 1532x908)rest for the weary.jpg
>>183790
Symptoms of the undead are starting to catch up to me. It's not a big deal since I can deal with these kids tomorrow with one eye open once I catch up on some shuteye with dolly over here.
No.183798
Anonymous
Replies:>>183799
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>>183794
Alex is for Rory only.
No.183799
Anonymous
>>183798
I'd vote for them only if Alex kisses Rory
No.183800
Anonymous
If The Witcher is /v/'s most hated game then what's /tnt/'s?
No.183801
Anonymous
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>>183800
/v/'s most hated game is TotK, WuKong, or Elden Ring atm. Idk for /tnt/ for it's kind of tricky since most have different tastes. I would vouch Xenoblade or Kingdom Hearts since they get shitted on from time to time.
No.183802
Anonymous
Image:174020125943.png(336kB, 635x480)Give me my chair.png
You might say this is a Rare breed of match-up. Hoo, sometimes the low-hanging jokes are the best! Now then, where are that bear and bird?

>>183719
Now is that the best you can mouth off, you overgrown canary? Must say I'm not all that impressed. It's quite foolish of you to downplay a gigantic dragon with a thirst for blood. Have you never heard of the food chain, you two scrimbobrains?

You're going to need a new game plan if you really want anons to keep voting for Banjob and Kaphooie! I thought you were a master artisan of insults, you no-good feather brai-

>>183768
By my mother's tail! You had to resort to that? I was going to go easy on you under the faintest familial respect, but you just earned yourself a full-on crushing! HAVE AT YOU TWO!
No.183803
Anonymous
>>183801
I like Xenoblade a lot, not sure who hates it. Kingdom hearts is real faggot moeshit, I can agree with that.
No.183804
Anonymous
Replies:>>183809
>>183800
I thought /v/'s most hated games are Sony exclusives like Stellar Blade or current big titles like RDR2. Witcher threads get discussion but less since it's old.
No.183805
Anonymous
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>>183800
any game that doesn't get discussed or jerked around here but also gacha which both boards share disdain for
No.183806
Anonymous
>>183800
Nier Automata both both /v/ and /tnt/ cases
No.183808
Anonymous
Replies:>>183810
>>183803
The first Kingdom Hearts was a good game with novel crossover autism.
No.183809
Anonymous
>>183801
>>183804
I would have thought Wukong and Stellar Blade would have been pushed by /v/. Did the Real Game Awards run them the wrong way?
No.183810
Anonymous
>>183808
One anon mentioned Sora for /v/ trio teams and the whole thread had a meltdown over it two days ago. KH would kill this board.
No.183811
Anonymous
>>183810
The weird part is that argument wasn't even about KH specifically it just kicked off the powder keg.
No.183812
Anonymous
>>183790
>>183791
>not sick
>team just lost so it doesn't matter that much
Damn...
No.183813
Anonymous
>>183809
Threads get filled with gcj or tranny discord raids and /pol/ hating them for being chink/gook shill trash and go full nuclear in some. Also there's the full console war funposting since SB is an exclusive.
No.183815
Anonymous
Replies:>>183827
>>183809
The only WuKong thread that I remembered was a /pol/ raid posting Chinese worker fatal accidents.
No.183816
Anonymous
>>183794
>Alex is such a powerful character that Geralt couldn't carry him because Alex's titanic might was too much for him
No.183817
Anonymous
Replies:>>183818
>>183810
That was because of Donald and Goofy
No.183818
Anonymous
>>183817
We STILL don't have confirmation whether they get a pass or not
No.183819
Anonymous
Sora would be /tnt/'s public enemy #1 if he won king.
No.183820
Anonymous
>>183803
>Kingdom hearts is real faggot moeshit, I can agree with that.
KH has many flaws but this one doesn't really make sense; it's the most shonen like of JRPGs which really played into its appeal.
The later Fire Emblem and Xenoblade games arguably lean more into moeshit by comparison.
No.183821
Anonymous
Image:174020562358.jpg(51kB, 1024x576)SMILEjita.jpg
>tfw infected the four finalists with aids
No.183822
Anonymous
Image:174020570811.png(1.29MB, 942x1043)Sora throne.png
>>183819
It would be based if he won for I don't care much about the current state of the series that much and thought the ost was peak.
No.183823
Anonymous
>>183819
>can't call out the power of friendship campaign since that's actually true to the character and his source material
No.183824
Anonymous
>>183803
>faggot moeshit
It has more of a distinct 2000s edge look than the 2010s moeshit that Xenoblade has past the first game. I would prefer someone to shill Xenogears instead since I'm tired of Nintendoshit atm.
No.183825
Anonymous
Video:174020619601.webm(1.71MB / 0:00:08 / V_VP9, 480x270)Zzzzzz.webm
Goodnight.....
>Zzzzzz..........
No.183826
Anonymous
>>183803
Xenoblade is peak moeblobsloppa tho.
No.183827
Anonymous
Image:174020659736.jpg(16kB, 400x300)sun wukong.jpg
>>183815
I was going to nominate WuKong as a joke last year and use his movie version to shill since /lit/ tourney is not happening.
No.183828
Anonymous
No.183829
Anonymous
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>>183827
Nah, use the manga adaptation of Son Wukong instead.
No.183830
Anonymous
>>183825
Comfy...
No.183831
Anonymous
>>183819
It's never happening, Sora doesn't have rape tendencies
No.183832
Anonymous
>>183819
King is for self insert faggots. Sora is someone they can't relate to.
No.183833
Anonymous
>>183832
I hope nobody relates to this. Kingdom Hearts II - Swim This Way (Perfect Score)youtube thumb
Sora should be paired with Steven Universe in /cov/
No.183834
Anonymous
Image:174020920710.jpg(93kB, 1280x720)Sanesss.jpg
>>183833
Taken
No.183835
Anonymous
No.183836
Anonymous
>>183834
Steven AND (S)teven (A)fter (N)ot (S)urviving? Kino....
No.183837
Anonymous
>>183833
Sora is still too masculine for Steven
>>183834
Kek
No.183838
Anonymous
>>183832
>Sora's main enemies are black creatures
it can work
No.183839
Anonymous
Replies:>>183840
Image:174021071462.jpg(206kB, 1920x1080)27b.jpg
Nominate him with Parasol Beauty
No.183840
Anonymous
>>183839
That's just the FF1 black mage, bur with tits
No.183841
Anonymous
>>183833
Sora in Steven's place would probably just kill all the evil gems. That little psycho twink has earned the right to take part in fruity musical numbers.
No.183842
Anonymous
>>183833
Sora has more masculinity in him in a single game than Steven had across a several seasons long show with multiple specials, a movie and an epilogue.
No.183843
Anonymous
When you walk away, you don't hear me say
"Please, oh baby, don't go"
Simple and clean
Is the way that you're making me feel tonight
It's hard to let it go
No.183844
Anonymous
Replies:>>183863
Image:174022019232.jpg(150kB, 1024x1251)caleb tommy.jpg
I live... again.
No.183846
Anonymous
>>183791
Funny because my main did lose round 1 but it wasn't Potential Men
No.183847
Anonymous
>>183810
Someone posted
>no Indiana Jones world
then, and it made me remember the Aerofag from a few years ago who tried playing KH1 and 2 because he was so ass-blasted over Sora being in Smash Ultimate, and it just showed how terrible he is at games. It was quite funny especially when he got jumpscared by Winnie the Pooh.
No.183848
Anonymous
Image:174022832403.jpg(261kB, 881x1171)__ib_ib_drawn_by_zibuxiu__655adf4685abd34caf38e79a2a8e914d.jpg
>>183767
...
No.183849
Anonymous
Replies:>>183850
Image:174023079952.jpg(77kB, 637x352)1575156916495.jpg
For what it's worth beneath the shonen crossover autism Kingdom Hearts is actually a really good series of ARPG games that stands out pretty well in its genre gameplay-wise, though again you do have to get past the gay shonen crossover autism to appreciate that. Personally I 100%'d I, II, and III and tried to get as much completion as I could in the DS games and it was quite a lot of fun
As for this tournament I would've liked to nominate Ansem and Xemnas but I was a bit late to the punch on that one. Though if nothing else Aqua got E8 in the Next 128 side tournament last year so I guess that's something
>>183833
Sora is for Mickey.
No.183850
Anonymous
Replies:>>183853
>>183849
I've done 100% for 1 on proud, 2 on critical, and done level 1 critical in 2, but I just can't finish 3 for some reason. I just think the worlds go on too long and are pretty dull, which is a shame cause I really liked the combat in 3.
No.183852
Anonymous
>>183825
It's clear as day. Would be ideal for dirtposting
No.183853
Anonymous
Replies:>>183854
>>183850
Fair, if you have Re Mind it might be worth getting around to finishing since the data fights are great; most of them are better than 2's in my opinion
No.183854
Anonymous
>>183853
That's what I've heard, maybe I'll go back to 3 soon since they do seem really fun, same with Yozora, and I loved the data fights + Lingering Will in 2.
No.183855
Anonymous
Replies:>>183857
>>183793
If a Trio of /v/ does happen, I'll nominate Geralt with Alex and Sam.
No.183857
Anonymous
Replies:>>183858
>>183855
Should I make an agenda image for the trio as well then?
No.183858
Anonymous
>>183857
Sam is not a jobber, has a good game and is generally liked for more than just funposting. Bazz would be a better addition to the team.
No.183860
Anonymous
Image:174023932909.gif(1.27MB, 242x242)sam.gif
>>183858
>Bazz would be a better addition to the team.
Now THAT is funny!
No.183861
Anonymous
>>183858
Bazz has potential but you can't call xer man, team needs a new name
No.183862
Anonymous
>>183861
They could be called the three stooges
No.183863
Anonymous
Replies:>>183868
Image:174023977409.png(1.63MB, 1863x2190)q71.png
>>183844
That can be fixed.
No.183864
Anonymous
>>183861
Potential WINNERS
No.183865
Anonymous
>>183858
On one hand, the Bazz thing has gotten pushed way too hard and runs the risk of being run into the ground, if it hasn't already.

On the other hand, if you're going to go full funpost, you should replace Geralt with someone more fitting like a Dustborn character. Geralt never fit these memes and would be baffling to anyone not in tourneys.
No.183866
Anonymous
Replies:>>183867
>>183865
Bazz is if guy gagne actually qualified
No.183867
Anonymous
>>183866
Bazz is a king character pushed into queen and I mean king character in both senses.
No.183868
Anonymous
Replies:>>183871
Image:174024109354.png(949kB, 666x666)b64.png
>>183863
Mmm... A fresh victim for the evergrowing army of the undead.
No.183869
Anonymous
Replies:>>183870
>>183865
>someone more fitting like a Dustborn character
this, but also replace Alex with Taash from veilguard
No.183870
Anonymous
Replies:>>183878
>>183869
Fang from Goodbye Volcano High also works
No.183871
Anonymous
Replies:>>183872
Image:174024199712.png(316kB, 613x954)3388844-travisfinger.png
>>183868
Whoa there, think of what you'd be unleashing on the world. I can't even imagine how much more obnoxious this mothefucker would become as an immortal Irish zombie.
No.183872
Anonymous
Image:174024254222.jpg(573kB, 1411x1088)e29.jpeg
>>183871
We can always skip the undead step and send him straight to hell... I heard they got group discounts!
No.183873
Anonymous
Which remaining teams believe the holocaust happened
No.183874
Anonymous
Replies:>>183875
>>183873
Duke Nukem that's it
No.183875
Anonymous
Video:174024326799.mp4(1.69MB / 0:00:09 / avc1, 640x640)Okay maybe it happened, but it wasn't 6 million [0kpfs6ga9wl61].mp4
>>183873
>>183874
No.183877
Anonymous
Image:174024514497.png(1.05MB, 1280x1941)33F6E027-75F0-4CFE-A630-48F9AE089F92.png
>>183873
Duke was in WWII to fulfill a time loop so him
No.183878
Anonymous
>>183870
Fang and Bazz have unusual gender expressions, they can be "shemale heroes" or something like that
No.183879
Anonymous
Replies:>>183881
>>183873
Banjo believes it happened, Kazooie doesn't
>Banjo: Kazooie! She has a factory because she's an evil witch.
>Kazooie: Oh sure, (((Gruntilda))) totally didn't get special favor from investors or anything like that. The banks knew she was a horrible, evil witch, but they gave her a big fat check to build a factory because they can't let other members of the tribe go without
>Banjo: Well maybe she used a magic spell to hypnotize them!
>Kazooie: The only magic spells they've cast is making building seven dissapear when it was the twin towers that were hit on september 11th.
>Banjo: KAZOOIE!
>Kazooie: She wants Tootie's blood to make Matzo balls, Banjo!
>Banjo: I'm done with this conversation.
>Kazooie: You're also done with having a foreskin.
No.183881
Anonymous
Replies:>>183882
>>183879
I don't think bears have foreskin to begin with. No, I am not searching that up to confirm.
No.183882
Anonymous
Replies:>>183887
>>183881
https://www.livescience.com/39895-ancient-bear-penis-bone.html
No.183887
Anonymous
Replies:>>183889
>>183882
Thank you Alex
No.183889
Anonymous
Replies:>>183891
Image:174025133265.png(1.21MB, 1920x3121)latest - 2025-02-22T130831.000.png
>>183887
...
No.183891
Anonymous
Replies:>>183893
>>183889
>useless woke ginger
Where's the REAL Alex?
No.183893
Anonymous
Replies:>>183894
>>183891
unironically should nominate Alex and Alex next year
No.183894
Anonymous
Replies:>>183895
>>183893
But what about Alex and Alex?
No.183895
Anonymous
>>183894
I prefer Alex and Alex
No.183896
Anonymous
Replies:>>183902
I'm going to Alex
No.183899
Anonymous
Replies:>>183900
Anon I don't wanna alarm you but (YOU) are Alex
No.183900
Anonymous
Image:174025370552.jpg(35kB, 680x635)1678017510853101.jpg
>>183899
No.183902
Anonymous
Replies:>>183906
Image:174025497274.png(8kB, 247x224)alex tops btw.png
>>183896
kazooie...
No.183906
Anonymous
>>183902
Alex fucks birds?
No.183916
Anonymous
Replies:>>183917
What the fuck is the answer to the question
No.183917
Anonymous
>>183916
First name of the guy who created Charlie Brown.
No.183918
Anonymous
Image:174025817144.jpg(493kB, 1920x1618)d-d-blood-1.jpg
...
I'll be home late today
No.183923
Anonymous
Replies:>>183924
Image:174026059908.gif(3.23MB, 320x240)BK_Cooking.gif
What are we cooking?
>Better be something delicious
No.183924
Anonymous
Image:174026131237.jpg(360kB, 1580x2108)__roland_project_moon_and_1_more_drawn_by_kitaku_ienikaeru__be8cee22059cce448b3f6c9ae5fbaa5c.jpg
>>183923
Only the finest toasted sandwiches, fresh from the good people at HamHamPangPang. Today's the last day to get the weekly special, after all.
No.183925
Anonymous
>tfw Banjo Threeie was never going to be a reality
no really a developer said it was all just a callback to how the first game ended. they never intended to continue the franchise all this time
No.183926
Anonymous
Haha what if you smelled kazooie's eggs as a joke of course
No.183927
Anonymous
Replies:>>183932
>>183925
Source?
No.183928
Anonymous
Image:174026274109.png(1.48MB, 1920x1080)damn fiddle.png
>>183925
No.183929
Anonymous
Replies:>>183931
Image:174026276977.jpg(10kB, 209x241)Caleb duke.jpg
>Groovy.
>...Groovy.
No.183930
Anonymous
>>183925
>Banjo got stale by the time of Tooie, so Nuts and Bolts was made with a customized vehicle approach to give it a selling point
>everyone hates it
>TOTK lifts said vehicle gimmick
>everyone loves it
No.183931
Anonymous
Replies:>>183936
Image:174026301316.gif(1.26MB, 640x482)travis-touchdown-no-more-heroes.gif
>>183929
No.183932
Anonymous
>>183927
It was confirmed by lead designer Gregg Mayles in the very same thread with Grant Kirkhope. However I misread it at first, he meant he didn't want to make another game SIMILAR to the first game and Tooie. That's why he was ok with Nuts and Bolts because it presented a new idea

https://x.com/Ghoulyboy/status/1308896701231624192
No.183933
Anonymous
>>183932
I do get the point of switching it up, but a complete reinvention was a bad idea. It's a shame too since Nuts & Bolts does have a great premise and a lot of effort put into its vehicle gimmick.

>>183930
Autobuild is the element of TotK I see most often cited as a reason for people who didn't like the game over BotW aside from the obvious reused overworld and gameplay quirks.

It's not 3D, but I'd say something like Bad Piggies sold that specific kind of vehicle building in a way that most who played the game loved it. It was the central gimmick and a spin-off from Angry Birds, which both definitely helped.
No.183935
Anonymous
>>183933
A lot of heat came mostly because of the redesigns. Nuts and Bolts is actually fun. How much do you want to bet everyone would have been fine with the vehicle gimmick if they sticked to their original designs?
No.183936
Anonymous
Image:174026382112.jpg(196kB, 1280x847)sounds-like-duke-nukems-voice-actor-wants-to-buy-the-rights-to-the-character-1.large.jpg
>>183931
Shake it, baby.
No.183937
Anonymous
Replies:>>183938
Image:174026417070.png(1.42MB, 2400x1300)DukeCalebSemifinals.png
>>183698
Cam on Build Kings
We can do this
No.183938
Anonymous
No.183939
Anonymous
Replies:>>183941
Image:174026434720.jpg(22kB, 376x376)Ridley.jpg
Soon, the space pirates will take over the universe! We just need to vaporize the remaining earthlings in this tournament!
No.183940
Anonymous
>>183930
>>183932
>>183933
>>183935
I think they should've established goodwill by making a Banjo remake on Xbox instead of Conker to make Nuts & Bolts a good idea in comparison. N&B clearly had innovation in there, but one of the problems was that it was years since the last proper Banjo game and the first one on an Xbox platform, so you had a product that appealed to nobody because the nostalgic Nintendo fans were mad it wasn't their promised "Banjo-Threeie" after so long (and on a different platform) and Xbox 360 players were left confused by a game that wasn't a good first-impression of the franchise.
No.183941
Anonymous
Replies:>>183943
Image:174026460664.gif(190kB, 500x336)dook.gif
>>183939
You damn alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up me and Caleb's ride.
No.183942
Anonymous
So are we going to ask the hosts for a 3-player /v/ tournament next year in the finals?
No.183943
Anonymous
Replies:>>183945
Image:174026510305.png(844kB, 1080x1350)n61.png
>>183941
Hey, not so fast. Maybe pterodork here meant me and Henry as "the remaining earthlings".
No.183944
Anonymous
>>183942
I can't even think of a vidya trio outside of Pokemon. Considering how low we were on great duo teams this year, I don't think trios is happenning
No.183945
Anonymous
Image:174026531723.jpg(43kB, 640x400)CcK28F4VIAAMeLy.jpg
>>183943
I think all four of us have a score to pick with those sons of bitches.
No.183946
Anonymous
Replies:>>183950
>>183942
>>183944
>The Triforce
>Freddy Bonnie and Chica
>Luigi, Polterpup, and E. Gadd
>Kris, Susie, and Ralsei
>Warioware Inc could be any configuration of WarioWare characters
>Shopkeeper team
>Mad Scientist team
it can work
No.183947
Anonymous
Image:174026557930.png(784kB, 1263x674)Subspace_Trio.png
>>183944
It's possible.
No.183949
Anonymous
Image:174026559504.jpg(116kB, 1024x931)build_engine_shooter_heroes_by_pepper_stripes_denijwb-fullview.jpg
>>183944
Technically Build Kings is only at 2/3rds full power.
No.183950
Anonymous
Replies:>>183952
Image:174026572471.png(338kB, 377x380)Battletoads__28characters_29.png
>>183946
and the Battletoads
No.183951
Anonymous
>>183944
Battler, Agent 47, AND Cuckold
No.183952
Anonymous
>>183950
>The Battletoads's campaign consists of anons calling their local GameStop and asking for Battletoads
No.183953
Anonymous
Image:174026619849.png(164kB, 469x354)Snakes_2_3_4.png
>>183944
Les Enfants Terribles
No.183954
Anonymous
Replies:>>183958
>>183935
Do keep in mind as well that the redesigns for at least the protagonists were shown off before the actual shift in gameplay was confirmed.
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts Xbox 360 Trailer - Firstyoutube thumb

Older designs would have likely lessened some flack, but it wouldn't have stopped the core complaints. They would have still cropped up more gradually.

>>183940
This is the real serious mistake. It's even worse that the original plan was a remake of sorts, but they just went straight to Nuts & Bolts after scrapping that.
No.183955
Anonymous
>>183944
AM can go as his three selves
No.183956
Anonymous
Image:174026641256.jpg(41kB, 600x600)vince.jpg
>>183944
>Colostomia
>The Great Mighty Poo
>The Evil Poop from Attack of the Evil Poop
THE SHITTIEST TRIO
No.183957
Anonymous
Did eggman take King-Boo's jobbergy? (Job energy)
No.183958
Anonymous
Image:174026676817.jpg(87kB, 512x440)512.jpg
>>183940
>>183954
The whole development of Banjo-Kazooie is worth talking about. It was originally a project called "Dream: Land of Giants" featuring an unnamed girl and her dog fighting pirates. If I recall correctly, the main villain of that scrapped story made a cameo in Banjo Kazooie and then fully appeared in Tooie
No.183959
Anonymous
Replies:>>183960
>>183958
Which character? I never knew that
No.183960
Anonymous
Replies:>>183962
Image:174026761528.png(509kB, 693x787)Blackeye.png
>>183959
Captain Blackeye. His portrait can be seen in Mad Monster Mansion and can be found in Tooie at Jolly Roger's Lagoon. Another think is that it seems that the change to Banjo-Kazooie was done very late in development since he had a full artowork and theme already done for him. In case you don't know which theme, it's this one from Donkey Kong 64
Donkey Kong 64 - Gloomy Galleonyoutube thumb
No.183961
Anonymous
Replies:>>183963
>>183958
I sure hope the "giants" was going to include the girl as well
No.183962
Anonymous
Replies:>>183963
>>183960
I knew about Blackeye originally being the villain of Dream, but I didn't know Gloomy Galleon was supposed to be his theme, pretty cool.
No.183963
Anonymous
Replies:>>183965
>>183961
>>183962
It was very late in development. It seems that Dream was originally intended to be for the SNES before changing their minds and pushing it all for the N64. Proof? One of Rare's co-founders posted this
Project Dream n64 (Banjo Kazooie) prototype (read description)youtube thumb
No.183964
Anonymous
Image:174026828763.jpg(49kB, 640x356)sddefault.jpg
Hello and welcome to the semifinals of the exciting 2025 Co-op tournament! We have reached this far folks; with only four teams remaining, it's only a matter of time to find out who will be our two finalists for this year's tournament. The battle for the crown has never been more chaotic as these powerful teams fight out for a place amongst the winners. Without further ado, here are our battles:

At match 1, Ridley soars through the air as Kazooie tries to gun him down with her egg bombs, but only barely has time to react before the alien dragon dive-bombs straight at her as the cannon bird dodges out of the way. Meanwhile, Banjo barely gets back on his feet as K. Rool slams down from above, shaking the entire battlefield! The impact sends Banjo flying, but managed to grab Kazooie’s legs just before he crashes down at the ground. The battle heats on as Bear & Bird retaliates by launching a volley of Grenade Eggs, but Ridley zips through the sky, weaving through explosions effortlessly. K. Rool, meanwhile, grabs one of the bombs midair and toss it right back at their opponent, sending them crashing onto the wall. Two vicious pirates versus the most unlikely underdogs left in the tournament is one battle we don't expect, but who will outlast the other?

At match 2, it’s immediately clear that this match is not about strategy; it's about unfiltered violence between four warriors who refuse to die. Duke opens fire as his blasts shake the entire battlefield, forcing We Are Finally Cowboys to dodge in opposite directions. Caleb lobs his TNT bundle at Henry, who teleports out of the way just in time. Travis counterattacks by landing a good slice on Duke with his katana that sends him flying backwards. Meanwhile, Henry tries to sneak attack Caleb from behind, but is quickly met with shotgun fire that blows him backwards. BUILD KING quickly get on their feet as they literally start to destroy the entire stage with their heavy weapons as their opponents desperately try to dodge these upcoming blasts. This is the biggest gigachad war we ever seen before, but who will be the most based of the bunch?

With two battles raging on, only two teams will emerge from the wreckage to face off in the final showdown. Who will be the ultimate warriors to come fourth at the finals? Vote now!
No.183965
Anonymous
>>183963
THE ONE PIECE...
No.183966
Anonymous
Replies:>>183967
Image:174026834673.jpg(78kB, 1031x795)tumblr_o2nxdrdvK21r2detio2_1280.jpg
>tfw yet Nintendo still let Rareware be bought by Microsoft
No.183967
Anonymous
>>183966
i'm more surprised by the fact microsoft thought they would get donkey kong's rights by buying rareware. like what the fuck were they thinking?
No.183968
Anonymous
Image:174026858069.gif(452kB, 498x268)1504533113643.gif
Frieza....
No.183969
Anonymous
Image:174026865852.jpg(124kB, 1280x720)1478415665910.jpg
My bets? Are all on Dook
No.183970
Anonymous
Replies:>>183987
Image:174026867678.png(852kB, 1300x1300)ridleys.png
Any last words, Samus?
No.183971
Anonymous
Replies:>>183973
>>183967
>microsoft thought they would get donkey kong's rights by buying rareware
Did they actually? That's so stupid that it sounds fake yet I can totally believe it's true.
No.183972
Anonymous
>>183944
>Doomguy, Master Chief, Samus
>Kazuya, Heihachi, Jin
>the KKK reunited
>A shit ton of KoF teams
Aside from that you do raise a good point. I would imagine that campaigning for trios would be much harder, and roleplaying would be more cumbersome.
No.183973
Anonymous
>>183967
>>183971
It was really one employee who thought that rather than the entire company, still dumb though.
No.183974
Anonymous
Image:174026884084.png(1.05MB, 778x1080)1569497931998.png
What are we waiting for? Assmas?
No.183975
Anonymous
Image:174026886316.png(375kB, 1200x1000)calebcooldown.png
>>183698
shiet i got home a few minutes too late
No.183976
Anonymous
Image:174026889485.png(463kB, 600x500)Dick Kickem.png
>that blowout
Can't go wrong with King, baby
No.183977
Anonymous
>>183944
Just make the trio tourneys 64 instead of 128.
No.183978
Anonymous
WHAT THE FUCK THAT BLOWOUT
No.183979
Anonymous
>BUILD KINGS won by that much
SpongeBob - Holy Shrimp!youtube thumb
No.183980
Anonymous
Replies:>>183987
>Ridley and K. Rool lost
gay
No.183981
Anonymous
Replies:>>183987
Image:174026895568.png(277kB, 351x420)ridelete.png
RIGGED
No.183982
Anonymous
Biggest semifinals stomp ever?
No.183983
Anonymous
Image:174026898201.jpg(110kB, 1144x2048)__roland_project_moon_and_1_more_drawn_by_yagidon__4339e5d705a7a77739e6a9b1c6ceef11.jpg
I'll take 6th with Patchi, thank you very much.
No.183984
Anonymous
Image:174026905755.jpg(76kB, 1280x720)luigi's mansion 3.jpg
I hate this! Where's our rightful 5TH PLACE!?
>They are jealous of you, my king don't pay them attention!
No.183985
Anonymous
Video:174026909853.mp4(978kB / 0:00:04 / avc1, 926x672)Banjo Kazooie Jiggy.mp4
6/7

Just one more to finish the quest!
No.183986
Anonymous
Who's going to draw the art of BUILD KINGS raping Banjo & Kazooie?
No.183987
Anonymous
Image:174026913361.jpg(57kB, 655x240)smug buddies.jpg
>>183970
>>183980
>>183981
No.183988
Anonymous
>>183984
You're way too FAT for 5th. Hell, I'm surprised Hellen doesn't suffocate whenever you two are in the same room together.
No.183989
Anonymous
Replies:>>183994
Image:174026917475.jpg(24kB, 657x611)1739463976516736 22222.jpg
Mfw banjo and kazooie win by 2 votes
No.183990
Anonymous
JOBleybros…
No.183991
Anonymous
Replies:>>183992
If someone told you Banjo-Kazooie was going to make finals a month ago, would anyone here believe it?
No.183992
Anonymous
>>183991
If it wasn't mainline yea
No.183993
Anonymous
Replies:>>183998
Image:174026928395.jpg(359kB, 1920x1080)caleb dook.jpg
https://vocaroo.com/1hd0HsTpcbIv
https://vocaroo.com/1hWjzOQDjeO1
No.183994
Anonymous
Replies:>>183996
>>183989
It was by 7 actually
No.183995
Anonymous
>>183984
for the memes I presume since your team isn't the worst in the E8
No.183996
Anonymous
>>183994
I was saying the future results
No.183997
Anonymous
Replies:>>184000
>Hocotate Freight and Kool Kruel and Kold-Blooded were the top 2 teams I wanted to win
>lost in a row to Banjo-Kazooie who are now in finals
Kek. I have the worst tournament luck in elite eights.
No.183998
Anonymous
>>183993
my KINGS.....
No.183999
Anonymous
I just realized something hilarious imagine if banjo and kazooie won before Eggman does
No.184000
Anonymous
Replies:>>184009
>>183997
Well, HF got fifth and KKK can still get third.
No.184001
Anonymous
Replies:>>184010
>>183999
yeah but funny aside, they are an iconic duo.
No.184002
Anonymous
Replies:>>184004
>perfect crossover team vs perfect same franchise team
No.184003
Anonymous
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What's this?! I LOST? This is preposterous!

I bet this was rigged by those damned Kongs! Blast, foiled yet again! Guess I could... settle for bronze? Boo hoo! Boo hoo hoo!
No.184004
Anonymous
>>184002
going for the crossover this time
No.184007
Coayynon !hJA5r5.WJw
FINALS >>184005
No.184008
Anonymous
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>>183984

Awww....look's like somebody is mad.
No.184009
Anonymous
>>184000
Hocotate Freight got fifth? Nice.
No.184010
Anonymous
>>184001
Yeah it would suck if people voted for a genuinely good duo to push a meme in a side tournament
No.184014
Anonymous
>>183999
Is every tournament just going to keep bringing up Eggman and what a jobber he is?