/tnt/ - Tournaments & Events

Thanks for the help, Black Hand although I'd suggest keeping an eye more often here or at least extending the moderation so you aren't alone.

Jucika is winning this.

>>154524
What makes you say that?

>>154525
meta knower

>/v/ tourists want to institute whitelist faggotry for /co/

>>154528
Anon, it so clearly a troll.

>>154530
Too hated and not in a good way, also not the best rep for Foster’s in the Mr tournament because Will is better.

>>154530
Oh god what is going to do in the final round?
What has he been doing in the previous rounds?

>>154524
I'm hoping Tyr wins but it's true Jucika has been gaining a lot of traction and I think previous meta discussion surrounding her may have something to do with it. If I were one of her detractors from here I would be regretting having shit-posted her so much.

>>154524
I can see it, but I'd be disappointed myself.

Jucika is such a nothing character to me imo. I don’t even dislike her, it’s just a sorta numbness I feel when I think about her. I don’t get the hype around her but I don’t get why someone would funpost about how “awful” she is all the time.

>>154539
Autism.

Pastebin?

>Frankie vs Jucika

Ok that margin is retarded, wtf is going on with Jucika?

I guess I'm voting for Jucika, Frankie's boring.

>>154546
I wouldn't be surprised if Tyr'ahnee lost because of spitevotes after what happened last round. I mean, look at that fucking margin for Pomni's 5th place votes.

>Jucika is the zoomer pick
What the fuck did I miss? Did the goalposts really move that far for team zoomer?

>There’s a chance the elite eight rule will be abolished
Hmm I wonder how things will go forward from here?

>>154552
That’s a retarded idea so I’m sure it’ll go through

>>154539
>Jucika is such a nothing character to me imo.
that's why she's awful

>>154554
So should I vote for it or against it?

>boomer spite zoomers R1-2
>zoomers spite boomers R4
>boomers spite zoomer QF
>zoomers spite booerms SF
Just rename Ms. /co/ to Meta /co/

>>154557
The cynic in me believes that this is going to spread to Mr as well since boomer-zoomer shitflinging isn't about waifu autism.

>>154556
After some back and forth thinking, I decided to just keep the rule so each Elite eight can be different and not All the same predictable character's every year, it’s called balance

>>154559
Nah mr /co/lympus has always been more consistently chill even after certain ms /co/ shitstorms

>>154561
If the generationfagging is only an excuse for more waifu shitflinging then Mr will be fine, if it isn't though, that, doesn't bode well for this year.

>>154556
You should vote to repeal the Elite 8 ban.
It was introduced after 2018 because people thought it was too safe and predictable… only to have every single year be a shitstorm of unpredictability. The E8 rule does nothing, except kill support for the characters jailed for two years, leading to silentfaggotry and OC makers leaving. Returning girls do well as often as they lose early (see Tyr, just got shitstomped).

The E8 ban was a kneejerk reaction to a year that was unironically ran too well. Get rid of it, you won’t regret it.

>>154566
>You can vote her and Hank as winners together
This is genuinely one of the worst things that could happen to both tournaments, you are unironically giving people more reasons to vote to keep the E8 ban in you colossal 50 IQ pea-brain sized dung eating imbecile, are you unironically trying to get Mr to have a shit year because if something like this ever happens it would be, it absolutely would be, I hope the E8 stays because this absolutely braindead scenario should never happen under any circumstances.

>>154567
I was simply arguing for the removal of the elite 8 ban from both perspectives, anonymous. It appears you have poor argumentative skills.

>>154566
>Propane jobbed this year. Sounds like a poor Hank proxy to me, and even then it's one fucking case.
>First half is fair, but second isn't considering how few characters can win in a short time frame. As proven already, doesn't seem to even matter that much either.
>This is a reason to keep it. Rather let people grow past a vocal minority unless it was really bad.
>I don't give a fuck.
>The rule was also decided upon right after the first Mr. /co/ happened. That sounds very fucking traditional to me.

That all said, I believe it's going to be repealed because voters are biased towards new changes.

>>154545
I can't explain the margin, but this is how I think Jucika won.
>the runner-up curse still being a big issue with even an anon this year admitting to voting against Tyr'ahnee because he doesn't like seeing the same faces in finales
>I wouldn't solely blame Pomni voters for this, but Tyr'ahnee being the closest during the rigged round probably caused spitevoting because of people in general thinking that match was foul play
>Jucika has made no enemies during this by her drawfag using the banter to her advantage in good humor and how she was discovered making it hard to pin her on any group in the generational fighting
>comic fans pushing hard for a winner now more than ever

>>154567
I agree it sucks and if Hank was eligible it wouldn’t have happened.
>>154569
I believe it will stay the way it is because of how hosts worded the question, playing into inaccurate fears.

>>154570
Tyr'ahnee is also a surprisingly low seed this year. The hype might just not be as much there as expected, even if she still was able to get this far.

>>154564
Alright, I’ll change it back

>>154574
But what about this year’s Mr co?

>>154567
>pea-brain
He is Mr. Peabody.

>>154576
Pea-body =/= Pea-brain

>>154578
I hope not. I'm sick of rule changes.

>>154579
I also hope it won't be, but it feels like this is the way the rule poll will go this year with how terrible things are right now.

>>154564
kill yourself

>>154579
Me too. Let the rules remain as they are. Because it will get worse.

the anti-E8 sperg has no real arguments, he hates the elite 8 because he has an autistic obsession with purity and works backwards from there to rationalize it. nothing you say to him will ever change his mind because he has no interest in discussion.

>>154582
The entire NSA era proved this.

I honestly think a rule lock is warranted(possible exception for the Seeded v Randomized thing because that was NSA era bullshit), Stats didn't support changing rules after 2019 for this very reason. If the ability to change is kept up though it should require a 2/3 supermajority rather than a simple majority going forward. Except probably for brackets for above reasons

We've been stuck with the elite 8 ban for SEVEN years, there's nothing wrong with wanting to change it

>>154579
I voted to keep it personally because of balance reasons, if there’s no penalty for reaching the elite eight than we’re just gonna keep seeing the same characters reach that position year after year after year. Years ago I would’ve disagreed but once returning characters keep coming back you hardly see new blood. That’s why I say keep it the way it is, anon says you won’t regret it but it’ll be the opposite to them. If it doesn’t happen then nothing changes, if it does, don’t say I didn’t warn you.

>>154583
I have rock solid arguments that nobody can reasonably challenge because the only challenge (including the phrasing of the question in the form) is “what if consistency happens” when the hypothetical doesn’t match the data AT ALL. Ms. /co/ is anything but consistent. Girls do well, they crash and burn, every year is a new opportunity. What the ruling does do, however, is kill year to year oc/campaigning, and create a caste of silentfag top seeds that neither sink nor swim. It’s anti-fun, solves nothing, and cheats the champions out of the challenge. No, it isn’t a tradition fallacy, some rulings are good (like Champion bans for example).

>>154586
we've been stuck with single elimination brackets for SEVEN years, there's nothing wrong with wanting to change it

>>154590
you are autistic and i'm not reading your wall of cope

Yeah we're gonna need jannies now

>>154594
>Hurr I’m Mr. Logical you have no arguments, you won’t engage in good faith
Okay, here’s an argument
>NO I WON’T READ YOU CARE TOO MUCH *ad hominem* AHHHHHHHHH

Why are you like this?

This guy must be really upset over his girl's jobber status if he keeps coming to /tnt/ do this same song and dance.

I think Jucika was the only one who didn't have enemies. Pomni was the heel that absorbed all the ire

>>154600
didn't read lol

>>154605
Yeah and now she's getting a lot of flack for making it so far, guess she could only dodge the spite for so long, whether or not it'll be enough to cause her to lose is another question.

>>154589
Silence, turkroach

this shit doesn't even phase me
at least on /co/ it takes two clicks to hide a post, here it only takes one

>>154586
I understand your sentiment, but I feel like it being here for so long is a reason to keep it. I know this word has been angering some people this tournament, but it is tradition and has been a big part of celebrations and OC. I also like the added challenge it provides for those who reach it and it serves the purpose of preventing things from getting stale.

>>154620
the elite 8 ban is a needed rise in tension at a point where people would be getting burned out otherwise. it's essential to keeping excitement and engagement up throughout the entire event.

>>154620
First it was too new to tell if it should be removed
And now it’s too old to tell if it should be removed
Every year, the same old song and dance. Never the right time, never the right time.
Rip the band-aid off, it’ll be fine, I promise.

>>154628
You know what would raise tensions even more? All the sharks in one pool, instead of a gimped bracket. Heck of a run last year? People are nervous/excited about what next year will bring.
Two years of jail deflates hype, it doesn’t increase it.

>>154632
This is the issue. I complained about it in 2021 and was told "too new" as well.
It's a stupid rule and needs to go.

>>154632
>First it was too new to tell if it should be removed
>And now it’s too old to tell if it should be removed
or maybe people realized they liked it and wanted it to stay

>>154639
You know what would raise tensions even more?
if i took a fat steamy dump down your throat

>>154620
Fundamentally it was an experiment. We had a hypothesis about what would happen without the rule, but we never actually tested it. It was created in reactionary fear which has the silver lining of some degree of prestige, but that isn't the purpose. I think making the top 8 can still be prestigious without also being a punishment.

>>154645
>Liked it
They don’t like what it does, that’s for sure (silentfagging, less OC/campaigning).

>>154656
explain ENA
she had more campaigning this year (after sitting out in 2023) than she did in 2022 (with no breaks after her last run in 2021)

>>154658
/tnt/ shit and team formats is nothing like the main tourneys, irrelevant and discarded

>>154671
>NOOOOOO DOESN'T COUNT
cope or rope

>>154658
And do you honestly believe that Ms. /co/ has showed that sort of consistency? Or is it a nuthouse with wildly different sentiments and results every year?
Pointing to a different tournament that behaves differently isn’t analogous.
>>154662
Exceptions don’t negate the principle. Sure, some girls may *happen* to pick up steam any given year (another point in my “there is no method to Ms. /co/‘s madness point), but the principle of the thing remains the same: leave a girl in jail for two years, they tend to lose their narrative.

>>154677
>Exceptions don’t negate the principle.
>NOOOOOO DOESN'T COUNT
cope or rope

https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/145569779#p145571720
he ran back to the /co/ thread to lick his wounds
what a faggot

>>154679
See? A little bit of logic thrown your way and you shut down and become a toddler.
You’re essentially asking for perfect data when in real life you’re only going to get suggestive data. The data suggests that ENA is the exception, not the rule.

>>154685
didn't read
cope or rope

>>154658
>Xavier
>Three times in a row
He jobbed in Villains in between the Tag Teams, though.

can you at least use a more sexy image if you're going to spam?

I hope you realize there's only a dozen people that come here.

>>154715
He's most likely using a script to bombard this place. He's also claiming that only one of his Turkish proxies got banned.

I just want to see what it'd be like without the rule. 2018 is either urban legend or a distant memory.

>>154722
Script or not, I don't get the point in raiding this shithole instead of anywhere else.

>>154723
honestly i respect this reasoning more than anything the anti-e8 fag has come up with

>>154728
Attention
That and the fact he's too scared to spam on /co/

>the Turk is at it again
I am actually starting to believe he’s underage, or at least close to it.

>>154740
If he has a shit ton of IPs, why couldn't he just use them on /co/? He's just asking to get BTFO just like what happened to Fusefag three years ago.

>He's planning to keep coming back
Black hat, you might wanna think about hiring jannies at this point

>>154752
>started his years long cry session because jannies deleted his "legitimate peridot threads"
>hates jannies to an autistic degree beyond of any reasonable anon
>goes on a tirade on a completely unrelated place that probably would not give a shit if he wanted to have his "legitimate peridot threads"
>seems to want to force said place's hand to get jannies on duty
I know he's a mentally ill underage and all but I'd hope he would at least be consistent with whatever the fuck he's having melties about

>>154754
He could've been killed and replaced by a copycat. That's what happens on /co/, anyway

So would the hosts be the first people black hand would consider hiring to take the mop?

>>154757
Being a host AND a jannie? I wouldn't wish such a fate on anyone.

>>154757
He'd probably just consider it for a few active users if there's anybody. Worst case he just introduces activity-based filtering or IP related timers.

>>154754
Yeah what the fuck is this guy’s plan? He can have Peridot threads on /trash/ and he could’ve had them here on plus4/co/ if he wasn’t such an annoying cunt.

Wtf is with people and Peridot anyways?

>>154757
Didn't the Zoroakanon said that he will help BlackHand with the janny job?

>>154761
Shit character from shit series with shit fans, not much else to say

>>154762
*Zorakanon

>>154763
But why Peridot specifically?

>>154759
I don't really want other tourney autist user's here being able to fish IP's tbh.

>>154767
The reason Black Hand can fish IPs is cause he's the administrator of the entire website. Just being able to janny a board doesn't mean you'd necessarily be able to dox people, at least not if you code it a certain way.

What the fuck did this guy lose to the E8 that he's this devoted to arguing against it every single year?

>>154769
Nothing specifically, I just knew it would introduce opportunities for problems for no reason and the symptoms of the rule have plagued the tournament ever since.

Tbh I never thought any host would even entertain the idea because the almighty status quo is gospel, but I’m happy it’s at least being deliberated on. I do not expect to win.

Uh, Dill Clinton
make thread

The E8 ban should last 2 years instead of one

>>154773
It already does.

>>154770
I don't like the elite 8 rule either, but I'd love to see it repealed and it honestly excites me more than either of these lame-ass winners

>>154752
>>154762
>>154767
Janitors would only be able to delete posts, which is useless when the guy can post nonstop.
Mods would be required to IP ban the guy, but that's useless when the guy can change IPs nonstop.

It would be a cat and mouse game that requires autistic jannies to constantly stay around and delete the guys posts until he gets bored.

>>154773
Ban is in effect the moment they lose and the next year, that's 2 years.

>>154776
How shit and finished would you be if you had to face Tong Shau Ping?

>>154777
Think he'll ever get bored of /tnt/, I've never seen him come here until now but he's been doing his shtick on /co/ for years, seems like if something catches his attention he never stops.

>>154773
For some reason WE CAN'T MAKE THE THREADS

>>154777
The board is so inactive that all a jannie really needs is to be able to wipe an IP's posts from the board within a specific time frame.
They don't need to know what the IP is even. It could be hidden behind a hash and the Jannie would still know that it's the same IP, just not what specific address it is.

>>154781
What?

>>154781
Maybe it's the Jessica thread that says "Ms. /co/" that's holding up more threads from being created.

>>154781
It's over

>>154781
Owari da…

>>154781
Uhhhhhh could it be the Ms Jessica thread that's responsible?

>Arguing over the Elite 8 rules was what finally got the jannies to kill tournaments for good

>>154781
the hosts have been BETRAYED and EXILED

>>154783
>>154785
>>154786
We're trying to figure out what's going on. For some reason our shit is being detected as spam.

That hasn't been a problem until now.
Honestly I was hoping it would last until Ms. /co/ was over

>>154781
>>154784
What if you remove "Ms. /co/" from the thread, just find some substitute like "Ms/co/" that says the same thing just without activating whatever retarded system is preventing another thread

>>154793
>You have been banned for evading spam filters

>>154789
maybe this is a sign to keep the shit the way it is

>>154793
That sounds like a way to get the thread dumpstered. Just get the Jessica thread to bump limit and the horror will end.

>>154789
>>154795
They’ve put up with far worse in the past. I doubt it.

>>154791
I got hit by the anti-spam thing too, maybe they made it so you can't reply to that many posts in an OP?

Ok, we got the thread up. The reason why it was detecting spam was because we all wanted to use the same image for the OP.
Oops

>>154799
lol

>>154799
Okay, that's very funny.

>>154779
Who?

>The E8 Rule question is phrased weirdly, so saying YES means you support getting rid of the E8 and saying NO means you support keeping it as it's always been.
This is legit a NSA playbook garymandering technique by hosts to get what they want
Balls and the other fags who are hosting need to explain not making the vote straightforward

>>154805
The way they worded the question shows me they don’t want it, actually. I don’t think they’ll cheat but they certainly tried to make it look bad.

>>154805
With these types of questions the answers themselves should say explicitly what they do. I don't actually think the hosts are trying to pull anything and I had no trouble understanding it myself, but with all the ESL and just general lack of reading comprehension you have to be a little redundant with these types of questions.

Let's rename the E8 Ban to E8 Break, that way it sounds less like a punishment and more like a reward.

>ending is #2 vs. #4 seed
Great use those randomized brackets did.

>>154809
Sounds like doublespeak. It's not the terminology that is the problem.

>>154810
>randomized brackets means all the top seeds lose XD

>>154812
Was not the point of proposing it to "vary" the results?

>>154809
The name doesn’t matter, what matters is what it does.

>>154813
It just makes it so jobbers get a chance to fight other jobbers instead of getting immediately killed by powerhouses, but it does nothing to actually stop those powerhouses from making it to the top 8. I mean they might kill another powerhouse or two on the way there but you're still going to have the most popular characters rising to the top, that's just how it is
I guess it doesn't matter though since if we're smart we're not voting for randomized and we can go back to traditional. Not that I even care about whether or not low seeds get easy brackets, I just miss when seeds actually mattered outside of extremely rare tiebreakers, it gave an incentive to put effort into the qualifiers so you could get a better seed which then translates into a better bracket.

>>154813
Popular characters will get far no matter the type of brackets, do you think they suddenly all lose because of randomization? Randomization makes getting to the end more interesting, while the ending is always going to be largely the same.

>>154817
That's not how it was sold to a lot of people though. A ton of people felt screwed in Round 1 when their girl got unlucky with Randomized and they found out the Seeded fight would have been winnable or even easy.

>>154818
>people felt screwed when the found out they could have had a free win instead
Better luck next time

>>154820
Traditional seeding is the way.

>>154820
Randomized is better and every round should be randomized.

What was the logic for implementing the Elite 8 ruling to begin with, most people weren't around for the 2018 threads

>>154825
You're not meant to have fun. This is a serious tournament.

>>154811
This. The E8 rule is killing the tournament

>>154814
It doesn't matter; people are stupid enough to keep it in because people hate change.

>>154828
Yes, I hate change that's why I want the same characters every year

>>154829
>I onky want the top 7 non-winners to get banned for uh reasons, the other 120 losers can be the same year after year after year I need my lowball campooner picks to get their chances

Wtf is this tripfag?

>>154770
Wasn't it put up to vote last year?

>>154823
“This went too smoothly and was too expected, what if every year is boring?”
That’s it. Meanwhile, every year afterwards is pure chaos.

>>154830
I agree, it should be a 128 ban.

>>154831
Someone fighting against the almighty status quo

>>154830
>campooner
Really?

>>154835
Sounds more like a attention seeking faggot is what it looks like.

>>154837
Nope, just threw on the trip out of necessity, because people were speaking for me and saying things I would not say.
I’d rather be an anon.

>>154838
No, you sound like a fucking obnoxious prick who wants attention

>>154838
You sure people weren't just losing track of the convo and butting in? It's an anonymous website, people get wires crossed all the time.

>>154840
Ok, I would rather deal with you claiming I’m an attentionwhore instead of falseflags, that’s fine.

>Too much of a faggot to spam on 4chan
>Has to go to a dead website like plus4chan to spam
Lmao

Hey, Perifag. Want some bacon?

>The script is somehow slower
Lmao

Perifag, how old are you?

>>154876
He said he was 13

>>154877
There's no way a thirteen year old could ban evade THAT proficiently, not even vidya butts guy is that proficient. He's clearly some neet just fucking around.

>>154879
At least vidya butts is funny

Yeah, nice script retard

The Ms /co/ threads haven't seemed to take kindly to /tnt/, you think we need a behavior reform here?

>>154883
>Ms. /co/ users judging anyone
Lol
Lmao

We got the Perispammer in one thread and the tripfag still trying to convert people to his side in another. Weirdly the latter is doing a better job than the former.

>Tuxler
Isn't that a botnet?

>>155074
Peridot is a symbolism of how to ruin your own series.

>>155079
I could probably write the backstory of a literal turd and it would still work much better than Peridot's entire role in the show.

Anyone else think E8fag is getting too into it, even if there are serious problems with the rule?

>>155208
Don’t shoot the messenger.

>>155213
His message isn't even all that good though

>>155221
Why don’t you like the rule, then?

>>155261
Removing it won't solve anything. That's the problem with metafaggotry; it suggests a logical solution to illogical solutions.

You do realize spam does literally nothing here, right?

>>155270
Oh ok that’s the opposite of what I thought you meant.

>>155274
it’s annoying for most others here

>>155413
ass blast from the past

>Didnt even have enough bots to get to 1000
KWAB

>>155417
I do wonder how long he can keep it up before Black Hand starts getting tired of his shit

>>154522
You going to do anything else Pencil?

>>155414
I literally did not even see the spam because I just dipped out for several hours.
The only reason people talk about it is because they might be there when it happens, but it's not like this place has a bump limit or catalog limit.
Remember when the soyjak posters tried to raid this place but ran into the issue of the catalog not archiving threads? Yeah they just gave up because they couldn't really shit it up in the first place.
Hell, if you want to avoid the spammer you can just use the old bump limit Ms. /co/ thread as dummy threads to spread his post rate out, making things even more tedious for him or at the least less effective and worth the effort. This is without getting into some specialized solutions like just autobanning IPs that try and post repeatedly over and over within a short timeframe.

>>155420
Is there a way to just block the image he uses?

>>155421
Pretty he did something to make each image flagged as a seperate one. I don't remember what it was

>>155421
He's just messed with them enough to switch up the hash. You'd need image recognition software to ban an image just on its visual appearance.

>>155424
>image recognition software
That what I was thinking. How difficult is it to implement that onto an image board?

>>155424
For the record, on 4chan they already know how to flag images for automatic bans and stuff. Certain spammers like the vidya butts guy just makes a huge assload of edits of it since the hash is different for each one.
So a more effective way to stop spammers is just to introduce too many roadblocks, and the final roadblock is just to automatically wipe someone's posts and ban them if they're immediately posting over and over like 10 timesin a row.

>>155426
Also, as I mentioned here >>154753 they implemented a very theorycrafted roadblock that I believe is also used on Yilauta (finnish imageboard) on 4chan earlier this year.
Normally on 4chan this means spammers will have to wait 5 or so minutes before posting new threads, but the time is shorter for posts. The main issue is usually that 4chan's mods are too busy to kill spammers immediately, but Plus4chan is so low activity that you can just kill people's IPs that post too much.

>>154590
>Ms. /co/ is anything but consistent
And yet there is roughly a dozen characters who all managed to make Elite 8 more than once
I don't want to see Raven, Tyr'ahnee and Kim Possible in E8 every year

>>155428
Chel lost to an extremely controversial Jester, so clearly consistency is NOT an issue

>>155432
Me under the table.

>>155434
Let me in there I don't want any part of this.

>>155431
she’s an outlier :)

>>155437
Brisby should, Son Goku

>>155437
She's on /a/ right now, you should meet her before the jannies delete her thread, Son Goku.
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/271245747#p271293732

>No I'm doing this to own le hekin' 4chan jannies but I'll attack any anonymous board that has nothing to do with my crusade
This guy is such a fucking shitter lmao

>>155441
I don't think he likes Peridot at all

>>155441
This behavior isn't really unique, all it's really about is a powertrip. One would do almost anything to maintain the illusion.

>>155425
If /v/ is any indication, not difficult. They just don't want to do it.

Isn't it a weird coincidence that the anti-Jucika autist suddenly grows real quiet once the actual tournament starts, and moreso, once Jucika starts doing really well?

>>155447
He was too busy posting about Bob

>>155448
Even jobbing in round one in peace is being taken away
Can't have shit in Ms. /co/

>>155451
>Get fuck off
Wanna take another whack at that champ?

>Get fuck off
ESLmmer...

>>155445
Retards don’t understand how little people frequent here, let alone during the main tournaments. It’s just making a boogeyman as if we’re some campooner hivemind.

>>155455
>It’s just making a boogeyman as if we’re some campooner hivemind.
Yeah, they don't know truth that it's all one guy.

>>155455
/tnt/‘s started turning against campaigns this year as a matter of fact, nowhere close to the extent of Ms but literal whos or other unpopular picks haven’t gotten far in any of the side tourney’s this year even with campaigning.

I really hope the metafaggotry isn’t actually against Frankie. I don’t see Jucika as that good of a winner.

>>155458
People are just so fucking jaded by ms. at this point.

>>155457
Besides Niancy

>E8fag is back and he's trying to be self aware

>>155462
I like he keeps calling it prison and jail time. Like holy shit dude it’s just sitting out one tournament for a year, it’s not like it’s literally torturing the waifus.

Uh, is 4chan crapping itself for you guys too or is it just me?

>>155461
Just going to copy and paste E8Chad's posts because he did the leg work already.

Reminder: Vote “YES” on repealing the Elite 8 Ban.

1. The initial “problem” that led to the ruling doesn’t exist (Ms. /co/ does not have an issue with too much consistency, and it likely never will).
2. The two year stint in jail causes problems for high tiers. For the ones in the competition because the early rounds are too easy (traditional seeding assumed), and for the ones in jail because they lose a year of momentum/narrative building/participation (both of these is why silentfaggotry happens more often with high tiers).
3. The two year stint in jail hurts mid tiers. For the ones in the competition because they get paired with high tiers too early (once again, assuming rational seeding), and for the ones in jail because they lose their energy from their underdog run, and almost always languish after a return.
4. -7 strong girls weakens the bracket, which incentivizes and assists less desirable strategies, like FOTM, spitevoting… even rigging. Adding back 7 high performers helps balance these factors out with some stability (giving us enough chaos to have fun but not enough to dominate everything).
5. It’s just more fun. Everyone who can make it being able to participate allows for a more contiguous narrative/conversation/thread culture to emerge year to year, and every girl still in the ring gets the chance to come out swinging next year. It’s the smarter, more stable, most balanced decision Ms. /co/ could make. We don’t need the two year prison sentences, we never did.

Vote “YES” to repeal the Elite 8 ban, you won’t regret it.

>>155465
no its been like that for me for the last 8 hours, a lot of other sites too actually

>>155467
Hopefully its sorted out before it gets worse