Time for a new Ben 10 thread. Old thread can be found slowly dying at >>216537. New thread can be found here.
Hey guys. Long time no see (although I've been lurking around like a creep so I've seen you...) I've noticed the Ben 10 thread was dead today, and with today being my free update day I figured I'd pop in and say hello by getting the new thread started with my free update for page 7 of Sultry Summer. As you can likely tell from the page, the video that Gwen has begun watching is of the 2016 reboot, just for added Ben 10 porn within Ben 10 porn. The comic is finally getting past the initial buildup so things should start picking up soon. I've already got up to page 11 lined, will be coloring it today and then will start page 12 next week.
Every Friday I have been posting my free updates, which will always include a new Sultry Summer page in my free area. The one month gap was only for the purpose of getting ahead in pages for an initial monthly delay, so ignore the rumors that this comic will only update once a month for free users.
As a final note, my site is working out much better than expected at this point so that's been great. Doing my 3 comic pages a week as well as investing my weekend time into finishing my past Patreon's final guaranteed request slots that I promised has been keeping me quite busy. I'm really trying to prioritize knocking out the old guaranteed slots so that I have more freedom with my weekends so that's why I couldn't bother to make an image specifically for this thread starter. With that said I must be off to start coloring today's new page. Once done with that I'll be back to starting another past request and then perhaps more lurking around...
Omg the comic is up to page 11 in your website?
nugwen? really? didn't think Gwen tastes in porn would be that bad
I'm late to the party again. Just saw all this "Gwen Fest" thing.
I've been very busy lately but I'll try to contribute.
Just a little taste.
Your love for gwen is superficial and disappointing
It is the 2017 reboot, Inco, not 2016.
wait, wasn't the comic about the very first time they have intimacy?
How is it possible that she's looking at Nugwen stuff and haven't done anything with him yet?
They already knew each other very well even before the infamous reboot!
idk this sounds wrong to me
For all the ones wanting to work on the graphic design/magazine part of gwenfest, can you message me and we can get started on figuring stuff out?
I know you guys are not very fond of out of cartoon style Gwens but if you want I have a commissioned painted manga Gwen that I released only on Patreon...
It's a variation clothes style of pic.
I attached an example. There are 6 more variations.
Damn she looks so cute there
Loved the condom detail
But I guess it was an invitation to Patreon, right?
Or were you thinking of post them here as well?
nah just not into midgets
I only love OG gwen, nugwen will never be her, just a distorted version of something already great
don't get me wrong, she may look cute for some people but I can't see her as Gwen, maybe as a different character from a different show would have worked better, but no as a reboot
also, knowing Gwen, she would have reading a novel with incestuous undertones instead, and starting to have some curiosity about her cousin, slowly having guilty thoughts and being upset at herself for them, but succumbing to her growing lust in the end
No, it's not an invitation... I would never ask people to do that. Never did and never will.
I would gladly post them here... the thing is, I've seen many people complaining about pics like that so I wanted to test the waters first.
It's your old pal Dank here...Never asked for money anywhere mate.
You're the best Dank, please yes post them, she looks great like that too
This is what the Gwenfest is for!
Holy Jesus incog is back.. Sir, you know we have to ask you to draw the cover of the Gwenfest magazine now right? Which I'd like to call simply... 'GT'. And if you don't mind we'll be showcasing much of your art and 100% promoting Sultry Summer. Ps: it's so good to see you again!!
Dank I'm fond of anything you draw. Your WIP OS Gwen sketch is smokin' hot!
Thank the gods incog is here. It was ridiculous that he wasn't involved. Dankwart too.
Not sure about the cover though, Id say an official Gwen pic from the actual show would be better
And GT reminds me of Dragon Ball tbh, why no Gwenfest 2017, implying isn't the last one but the first of them?
Alternate universes don't need to abide by release date
Just made a time consuming mistake on coloring my page right now so popping in real quick to check out comments.
>Omg the comic is up to page 11 in your website?
Indeed it is. Just finished putting down the flats for the page after doing something stupid involving putting background flats on the wrong layer. I am about to finish it after this though.
>nugwen? really? didn't think Gwen tastes in porn would be that bad
Hey, I like NuGwen. Sure, she's not OS Gwen, but she's like an entirely different character that's still fine. The main point was that she looks like Gwen to some degree, so it makes the porn more immersive.
>I'm late to the party again. Just saw all this "Gwen Fest" thing.
>I've been very busy lately but I'll try to contribute.
>Just a little taste.
Yeah, I've been lurking around but I'm still not sure what the Gwen Fest thing is about or where it started. Never really heard about it before. I myself don't really have much time to contribute, hence me just starting the thread with today's page.
>It is the 2017 reboot, Inco, not 2016.
Well there are 30x 10 minute episodes already, it is listed as the 2016 reboot on sites like IMDb, KissCartoon and Wikipedia, and the series has been aired by Cartoon Network in multiple regions since October of 2016. Not being released yet in North and Latin America does not mean the series is not from 2016.
>wait, wasn't the comic about the very first time they have intimacy?
>How is it possible that she's looking at Nugwen stuff and haven't done anything with him yet?
>They already knew each other very well even before the infamous reboot!
>idk this sounds wrong to me
The reboot in the comic isn't actually supposed to be Ben and Gwen, hence why in the filenames I have changed any instance of Ben/Gwen and Rust Bucket, plus Ben in the video doesn't have an Omnitrix. It just worked out that the characters are completely different while having similarities in appearance.
>For all the ones wanting to work on the graphic design/magazine part of gwenfest, can you message me and we can get started on figuring stuff out?
Sadly I don't have much time to spare, but where did this originate? It just seems rather curious to me that such a thing has started up all of a sudden.
>nah just not into midgets
>I only love OG gwen, nugwen will never be her, just a distorted version of something already great
>don't get me wrong, she may look cute for some people but I can't see her as Gwen, maybe as a different character from a different show would have worked better, but no as a reboot
>also, knowing Gwen, she would have reading a novel with incestuous undertones instead, and starting to have some curiosity about her cousin, slowly having guilty thoughts and being upset at herself for them, but succumbing to her growing lust in the end
Of course NuGwen will never be OS Gwen. They clearly did not make her with that intent, both physically and in personality. Just have to look at her as a new character. I've never looked at her in any way as being a replacement for OS Gwen. As for the novel idea, probably would be a bit more in-character, but not as interesting to portray and isn't something Ben would as likely catch her doing.
>Holy Jesus incog is back.. Sir, you know we have to ask you to draw the cover of the Gwenfest magazine now right? Which I'd like to call simply... 'GT'. And if you don't mind we'll be showcasing much of your art and 100% promoting Sultry Summer. Ps: it's so good to see you again!!
Well, not back back, but speaking out a little while lurking. I don't think I would have time to draw any magazine cover as I'm quite busy. I still have 2 more guaranteed Patreon requests, and by the time those are done it will be time to do another calendar piece, so pretty much my next 3-4 weekends are taken up already and my weekday schedule is difficult enough. If you want to use anything I've made before, however, feel free.
>Thank the gods incog is here. It was ridiculous that he wasn't involved. Dankwart too.
Well I'll keep an eye on how things are going, but as mentioned above, not sure how much I can actually contribute.
>The reboot in the comic isn't actually supposed to be Ben and Gwen, hence why in the filenames I have changed any instance of Ben/Gwen and Rust Bucket, plus Ben in the video doesn't have an Omnitrix. It just worked out that the characters are completely different while having similarities in appearance.
Now I feel better about it, thanks. It even reminds me of those cute blonde twins they met before in the original series
I have to do some errands right now but as soon as I'm back I'll start posting them.
Sure pal thanks a lot!
Also fucking love funny sfw drawings of Gwen too
I love the fact that the reboot Ben 10 characters are the porno fakes.
So the last Gwen thread on co was killed
Why mods on co hate her, but allow other 'underage' characters from shows like teen titans to even the gals from scoobydoo. Even new shows as starvs and loud house are allowed there
And you can't say thise characters aren't sexualized in those threads
Why this happens now, even in trash where they didn't give a fuck, furries started to complain because they wanna the whole board for themselves, but tlhg is still up
I don't have anything against those shows, but why they're applying those rules to only a few threads? It would be better for all if they could allow co lolis threads just like before
Possibly because the loud house kids look like poorly drawn sketches. The Teen Titans Go designs look like beans. So very obviously harmless cartoons. OS Gwen's anatomically correct design is probably too vivid and real-world childlike, or at least borders on resembling such a form.
but how about teen titans (the first series)?
and just because they are poorly drawn doesnt mean co need to be limited to some kind of sjws shitty moderation
why furries can have a board but no lolis? at least co lolis at least
they even banned them from aco
Moral of the story is, come to /pco for Gwen. In the event /pco goes the way of wwoec into oblivion without warning, get in the emergency brace position and convene in 8chan's /rule34 board, where we'll talk about starting our own sovereign state of /Gwen which is where we seem to be headed.
Hope such a thing never happen to pco.
Losing wwoec was truly a shame
Also 8chn/cop has already a Gwen exclusive thread
Can we all agree on a meeting place though? God forbid Plus4chan ever goes down along with all the Gwenfest progress but I've learned from the wwoec crisis that sometimes ships sink without warning. There will be a call-out when the time comes obviously, an image shared on paheal with details of the meeting place. If and when such a time comes.
Yeah that's why I often check different sites to see if there's a Gwen pic Im missing
That pic was a delivery from a previous request thread here in pco though
There you go...
I'll dig my files and see if I can contribute with anything.
Now I'll hit my bed because it's 11pm.
When my Gwenfest pic gets done I'll share with you guys.
Thank you Dankwart for all your time and effort.
>I've been lurking around but I'm still not sure what the Gwen Fest thing is about or where it started. Never really heard about it before.
It started about halfway through the previous thread with this >>216611 post. Anon galvanised everyone into creating something ambitious since there was so many artists drawing Gwen at the time. It made sense to celebrate the character. Plus I think it was a good way for everyone to deal with the trauma of you being absent from the threads =P
Yo Incog, what's up? nice to see you again man.
>I don't think I would have time to draw any magazine cover as I'm quite busy
Heck, maybe one of us can commission a cover. Either way I don't think that is due until the end of the year so that position will be open for a while. I'm hoping for a rare chance that you get a spare second from your busy schedule to do a quick one because that honor should go to you. It would be insane if you weren't the cover artist of this first issue.
>As a final note, my site is working out much better than expected at this point so that's been great
Wow that's amazing. Great to hear that all your hard work is paying off. Thanks for the update and the awesome threadstarter. Sultry Summer is going to be legendary XD Please drop by again!
Everything about that looks wrong. The eyes are too big, the chin is too narrow, the body is mostly okay but the freckles look more like some kind of weird and not at all attractive alien marking than what you were no doubt going for.
Your older stuff was better. This new style? Not so much.
Sorry to disappoint but that's how commissions work. I draw what the client asks.
I shared here after asking if it would be ok but point taken.
You know, I take criticism pretty well but it's difficult to satisfy personal preferences when sharing stuff done to other people.
And I can't keep drawing the same "old stuff"... artists need to evolve and move forward.
Started the shaping and cleaning stage.
He stated it was a different style due to being a commission. Haven't you seen her newest sketch of what he's working recently? I know those are your opinions but please, think again about the way you point out your comments, Dankwart is a very appreciated artist here and he was kind enough to even share these pics and start working in a new piece
Totally agree with you. I loved these pics though.
Trace is just pointing out his personal preferences but doesn't means your pics aren't welcome, you were generous enough to even share them here so please, don't think he speaks for everyone.
Having you around is great, and knowing you take criticism in a positive way too so please feel free to share more of your works with us, Dankwart.
Trace is literally nuts Dankwart, an OS Gwen extremist. Pay him no heed
>OS Gwen extremist
How is that? I fucking love OS Gwen too, but I'm curious about being considered extremist
I think her 10,000 OS version is ok, same with her kid ov version. I don't find appealing the rest of her versions though. Even her reboot
Trace will fight you for drawing or sharing any other version of Gwen, which to me is terrorist behaviour
Well tbqh I would always prefer having only OS versions instead, but it's not like if artists can't draw whatever they might want.
I even loved Dankwart's version in those pics.
Just finished some lines for today so I'm popping in to see what's up.
>It started about halfway through the previous thread with this >216611 post. Anon galvanised everyone into creating something ambitious since there was so many artists drawing Gwen at the time. It made sense to celebrate the character. Plus I think it was a good way for everyone to deal with the trauma of you being absent from the threads =P
Ahhh, I figured it was something someone just decided on since I had never heard of it before. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something that had been going on for a while that I somehow never heard of.
>Yo Incog, what's up? nice to see you again man.
Nothing much. Just mostly drawing as usual. If I can finish the piece I started this weekend before next week starts I should have only one more guaranteed request slot from my past Patreon to fulfill then I'll finally be done with those. This means I'll be one step closer to getting my backlog complete and I'll get to decide on new stuff to do over the weekends.
>Heck, maybe one of us can commission a cover. Either way I don't think that is due until the end of the year so that position will be open for a while. I'm hoping for a rare chance that you get a spare second from your busy schedule to do a quick one because that honor should go to you. It would be insane if you weren't the cover artist of this first issue.
Being in the form of a commission sadly would not help as the issue is not so much money as it is scheduling. Mondays through Fridays are quite busy as it is, and I can feel that pushing even more in this time frame would be bad for my hand (it does need rest time). However I should have more time maybe within the next few weeks after I finish my last couple guaranteed request slots from before, although by the time those are done it will be time for the next calendar piece so I likely have about 2-4 weeks left before I'll be able to spare much time.
Please don't worry Incog, we know you're kinda busy but Im glad things are working for you so far.
Even if someone expressed his desire about a cover from you, Id like having a simpler cover for the magazine, also including a single artist for it having all other contributing too would be a bit unfair.
Would be even better a minimalist cover, with her cat logo in it, or maybe an edited image from the show itself even.
I've been fooling around with it, but ended giving it more attention and maybe I can share these ideas and layers here as well.
Didn't say anything to Panzer because as I said, was just fooling around with the idea, but maybe we can work about it together or share opinions about it in a near future
Incog, I could not help but notice you haven't updated at JabArchives since January. Did something happened?
He is minimising his stop-overs around the internet as it takes up too much time. Even responding to messages here takes time.
>However I should have more time maybe within the next few weeks after I finish my last couple guaranteed request slots although by the time those are done it will be time for the next calendar piece so I likely have about 2-4 weeks left before I'll be able to spare much time.
Even if you chip away at it in small steps until it's finished in the coming months it will be worth the wait. I think having you involved and doing the cover art itself is a statement, one that could inspire many others to take part in the celebration of Gwen.
That's gonna be a damn great pinup, you nailed that sexy face of hers dank. Her body is smoking too.
Just an example of what a cover could look like. Used one of my drawings for it.
I really have no idea of what could be used for text so i made shit up.
Hey, this is great!
Hey, I'd love to help out with this thing. I can help come up with stuff to write, as well covers/pages that could be used!
I understand your good intentions anon, but all due respect to Incog, he is not necessary for such a thing.
He's clearly busy, it honestly seems silly to ask him to "chip away" for months when we can already move forward with brilliant OC like this: >>217440
Yeah sweet dude. Shoot me a message on pixiv if you got one, and if not send me an email.
My pixiv is http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=20422245
and an email is [email protected]
Or suggest something to communicate with. I'm down for anything
How 'bout no? From an aesthetic standpoint it really is lacking. It's like the commissioner wanted porn of the Bratz dolls. Completely and totally impossible to find attractive in any way, shape or form.
As for evolving as an artist that's all well and good but not if it takes you from something halfway decent to Cubist Expressionism. There are styles out there which while they might be the artist's personal preference or the end result of years of practice and effort don't really lend themselves to erotica.
Half of erotic art is the aesthetics, not merely the content, and you should carefully consider the direction you want to go.
And no, i'm not an OS Gwen extremist. Gimme good pictures of the other versions (even one-shot versions like the magician from the flash forward episode) and I'll gladly save them. But the emphasis here is on GOOD. Don't be like Iamari over on Hentai-Foundry saying everything you see is worth keeping, because that way lies madness.
I honestly hate how these days you can't even say one negative word against the artist or the style without a million people jumping down your throat. People are too sensitive anymore.
You got it wrong though, Trace
He said it was a comission, didn't you see his last sketch? She looks truly on model there
But even if he likes to draw her like in those comissions, how you can say it's totally impossible to find it attractive in any way when some people have showed they appreciate that style too?
Please stop being this retard and be generous instead
You can have your own opinion, just don't bark it saying it's the only right way to see it
True is that there are some people that can't take criticism about certain artists here, but the way you express this, is in a very similar and autistic way, such as saying some works are flawless
Just stop please
You don't draw or contribute yet you talk like an authority figure.. Why do you act so entitled?
Guys, Trace is entitled to his opinions the same way all of you are.
Let's not start a discussion and clog the thread.
Art is subjective and it's dependent on interpretation. Some like it some don't.
Agree with Dank. Although I don't read or respond to long, abrasive comments anymore, it wastes time arguing with hot air.
>Stop harassing Incog, he politely said he's busy
I wasn't at all, I was being considerate and giving him the stage. Incog is probably responsible for half of the 5000 Gwen pics on Paheal. No one else in the community deserves to do the cover more. That's just my opinion. Incog mentioned in >>217429 that he might "have more time maybe within the next few weeks after I finish my last couple guaranteed request slots" and that he will "likely have about 2-4 weeks left before I'll be able to spare much time", so I'm hopeful that there can be a window for him to take part of it around then. I realise the Gwenfest train is in motion but we can make room for Incog, it's the least we can do. I'm sure everyone understands that the whole project will be laughable if Incognitymous himself isn't in it.
Cute cover template Panz. Anyone else with a pitch? How about one titled GT: Illustrated..
>No one else in the community deserves to do the cover more.
Even if he has done lots of Gwen pics, that doesn't mean you can put behind all other artists who had contribute to this Gwenfest so far.
I think it should be a fair treatment to have a minimalist or even a kind of fancy edit with Gwen from an official pic or even screenshot in it, since it's about her why we are doing this. You know, Gwenfest.
Of course Im grateful with what he had done, but see, he's really busy right now, and keeping asking him for it it's also like trying to pressing him for doing it.
He gave you an estimated time, but Id prefer if he could focus more in his own projects and site instead, since it's where he gets economic support right now.
>I'm sure everyone understands that the whole project will be laughable if Incognitymous himself isn't in it.
Not really, even if he wouldn't get any space (something that it's not gonna happen but still), all those many pics other talented artists have done would still make it a valuable piece in any respectable Gwen collection.
We know you really like his works as much as other people here, but you're trying to minimize what other skilled persons have done for the festival saying that.
Again, even if Incog doesn't have the time, his recent and more notable works are gonna be in the magazine, but giving him a preferential place and even the cover would be disrespectful for all the other artists involved
I'm sure he even is gonna finish his comic this year, so don't worry about not giving him the cover, because we can still put his full comic in it if he allow us to do it
Don't like the idea of overrun the magazine with just Incognitymous' drawings though, so we could only select the very best of them instead
So, due to some very intensive drawing the last few days I'm with a terrible ache in my arm.
I still have to start my Patreon reward for March and need to rest the arm a bit.
The main inking for the Gwen pic is done but I can't promise to finish it right now. I'll wait for the aching to pass.
It's ok Dankwart, please don't worry
hope you feel better soon
>Don't like the idea of overrun the magazine with just Incognitymous' drawings
It won't be. He'll be cover artist, first and foremost, and then he'll receive the recognition he deserves in a retrospective "Best Of" gallery along with other Gwen artists like HP, Random, Drew Gardner. (Apostle will be acknowledged as well for his legendary Gwen works). All up, the "Best Of" should take up one or two spreads of the magazine- 4 pages all up. If there are themed sections like 'swimwear' or 'pin-ups' for example then Incog's work will be included in those along with other artists who have done drawings the subject. Classic Gwen stories will also have a small section and will include Fixxxer's 'A Witch With No Name' as well as the WIP 'Sultry Summer' by Incog. (A search on exhentai will reveal a back catalog of Gwen comics).
The contributors who have created fresh art for this festival like Panzer, Dankwart stuff18over, conoghi, Fridge etc will be the main stars of the magazine, with each piece being featured in their own page. If the artist has made other Gwen works, then there will be an accompanying page showcasing these. Every artist will therefore get a spread with their second page detailing their thoughts and passion for the character as well as links to their email/Patreon/website.
So you don't have to worry, anon, it won't be an Incog magazine. But please give him the chance to produce 1 cover piece for the project.
It's so fucking hot Dankwart. Can potentially be the best contribution of all. Hope you don't mind but I gave it a few adjustments. I think she's closer to proportion here. You can roll with it if you like, or not. It's a winner either way. No rush or pressure. Please rest that hand up and get better!
Well, I really appreciate the effort.
But I'm afraid I will stick to my own design, please don't get me wrong, It's just that when I get a certain view for a piece I like to see it through.
It doesn't mean I won't take some hints from your changes it's just that I'd like to keep my drawing my own.
As for proportions, if I use the cartoon proportions she won't be attractive at all. So I used anatomically correct body design that still has some tweaks to get to the right age measurements.
Hope the finished piece gets as good as possible.
>He'll be cover artist, first and foremost
See this is what I don't like. You shouldn't give him a preferential place if lots of artists have made this Gwenfest possible
We should give everyone a equal treatment, same with the cover, remember it's about Gwen
Also the samples arent gonna take so long so we can start to show them here, that way we can include the most recent works and new Gwen pics as how artists contribute with posterior templates and layers
I'm the one making the damn magazine(Or at least I'm in charge). Me and the other anons working on the cover will choose who goes on the cover, well as long as they don't fight as well. If that's the case I'm picking who goes on the cover.
Here's what I think. if Incog has time to draw a cover pic by the time that the "magazine" is ready to come out we'll stick that pic on the front. If not we'll find somebody else.
>I'm the one making the damn magazine
Excuse me, but Im doing a version too, why you think youre the only one in charge
Also, picking a single artist for the cover isnt just right
>Excuse me, but Im doing a version too, why you think youre the only one in charge
I don't have or want to be. It just seems that I'm kinda the only one doing anything. Haven't seen any other concepts or versions from anybody else.
>Also, picking a single artist for the cover isnt just right
For the first issue, if we make more we could have other artists.
>I'm the one making the damn magazine. Me and the other anons will choose who goes on the cover
Ugh, I was afraid of this. Power trippin..
>Here's what I think. if Incog has time to draw a cover pic by the time that the "magazine" is ready to come out we'll stick that pic on the front. If not we'll find somebody else.
That's pretty much what I was saying.
>Excuse me, but Im doing a version too, why you think youre the only one in charge
I was afraid of this too. Squabbling..
Guys we have to stop fighting over total control of this project amongst ourselves or it will self-implode, either by being made to a poor standard that doesn't please anyone or by not being made at all due to people in important positions spitting the dummy and pulling the plug.
Panzer, be more considerate and open to ideas and don't dictate orders. You may not know you're doing it but watch your tone. This is a collaborative effort, that's the key word here, so collaborate. There are groups of people in the community that are watching our progress and want this project to fail so we need to be more in sync with one another so as to not be a laughing stock. I believe the key to doing this is pitching ideas and keeping an open mind about what others suggest, instead of just shutting them down immediately. Keep the energy positive or nothing will get done.
>I don't have or want to be. It just seems that I'm kinda the only one doing anything. Haven't seen any other concepts or versions from anybody else.
Just because havent uploaded anything doesnt means it's not getting done
Has been figuring some details so I'll show them here shortly
>For the first issue, if we make more we could have other artists.
Exactly, thats why I wouldnt like having a single artist for the cover, as a first issue for the Gwenfest, should be a fancy looking one, having Gwen as the cover, but no for any artist
We can have some artists edition for future magazines, even specials
>It just seems that I'm kinda the only one doing anything.
Panz, you're playing the martyr. I could say the same about making the only 2 promo flyers being circulated out there. It's not a contest of productivity, we're all working towards the same goal. Also there's no deadline for this in the near future so stop applying pressure where it's not needed.
Holy shit. If Panzer takes the reigns to this and starts releasing it without clearance this project is doomed. Better off creating your own versions with the material at this point if he's playing dictator
I'm not playing dictator. Just said some stupid shit. I'm sorry.
I'll just take a backseat to whatever you guys do. Just lemme know what you guys want and I'll do it. Which is pretty much what i wanted to do in the first place.
I just let it go to my head.
But I really have no idea what to pitch. I'm just gonna let the rest of us come up with the ideas. I just want to help make the magazine itself.
It's fine, gotta work a bit more in the cover and templates so I can show some here and talk about it
So if we're done jumping down each other's throats I'm gonna go work on some Gwen pics and start drafting a Gwen comic.
MrPotato did it again!!
You did my day, thank you
Trust me the design pitches will come.
What we're doing right now is brainstorming the segments that make up the 'magazine'. I'm pretty sure everyone here is a real nerd for Gwen and that she makes us all geek out for whatever reason. I think one of our tasks is to show those who are wondering why the character is so popular exactly why this is so, with the ultimate goal being to transfer enthusiasm and create new fans. This can probably be done by exploring milestones and highlights of her long (Rule 34) history.
I know the technical stuff. But it's the articles and contents themselves I'm leaving up to the rest of you guys. I'm no writer.
And of course we'll work together on the technical shit. Placement and Space management is key. We need to figure out where'll everything will go.
But I was wondering about something, I think there should be someone who has final say on the final product.
Because without a definitive end it may not get finished. We'll keep fixing and tweaking and we'll never get done. Shouldn't be me, we all know why, but someone at least. But then again we all may get to a point we all love.
Anyway, this could be months in advance so who knows?
I'd aim for October, there's more than enough time.
Suggestion: How about a page that's a 2018 calendar? Can do an idea pitch tomorrow. Was thinking of using existing sex scenes instead of the traditional single figure posing format. So every month of the year depicts Gwen at orgasm in various sexual positions. Would be a quick way to showcase long forgotten artworks from one-off artists, like pics related, done by Arabatos and Noukyuu respectively.
please include November
>Would be a quick way to showcase long forgotten artworks from one-off artists
also that idea sounds really good
btw could you please post a full version of that Arabatos pic? I cant recall if I have it already
>please include November
You mean "consider" November? Sure. I just meant AIM to finish on October for a 2018 release.
>could you please post a full version of that Arabatos pic? I cant recall if I have it already
It's here: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=354882
It truly is silly how much porn there is of Gwen. I'm still finding gold-standard pieces from 2007 that are new to me. Gwenfest could give the best of these some attention, even if it's by asking feature artists what some of their favourite portraits are and showing them in a sidebar.
>I'm afraid I will stick to my own design, please don't get me wrong, It's just that when I get a certain view for a piece I like to see it through.
I totally respect that. Would you mind at all if I continued work and colored the younger version I tweaked? It's just so damn hot.
>Hope the finished piece gets as good as possible.
It will be, your Gwens always turn out sexy as hell ;)
Guys, could I suggest some kind of theme system?
This would make it easy for the artists and also for the magazine itself.
Each month you could establish a theme and then the artists who want to participate contribute with their take on that.
A separation of sex scenes and single poses would also be interesting. Maybe a section for sexy SFW work too.
Just some ideas.
Those are pretty good ideas, Dankwart
Thank you so much for your thoughts, they are very useful abd certainly I think we can try that
Anon, as a trial run, would you be able to do a write up on Pepi based on his questionnaire answers from the previous thread here >>216753?
Afterwards, incorporate the text into a spread layout using the image he contributed >>216739 as the focus artwork, while sprinkling a collage of his past Gwen pieces to further illustrate his style and skill-set.
To finish, add his contact details (https://www.patreon.com/centerthep) in a place you see fit. Let's start work on establishing these templates. For me, the worst part will always be choosing the fonts!
Hey I like that idea. Might help inspire the most unlikely artists to contribute.
>A separation of sex scenes and single poses would also be interesting. Maybe a section for sexy SFW work too.
I had this in mind too. You're already thinking well ahead into the next issue Dank.
You're setting the bar pretty high man. That pose combined with that face makes for a sizzling-hot pinup. One of the best I've seen from you, cheers.
Glad to contribute now I'll go back to lurking mode... I have 40ish pics of Voltron's Pidge to do for my patrons till the end of week.
Until next time!
Thank you so much again, Dankwart
Such an amazing piece
Amazing art man. Seriously, this is so good it could be the cover. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang out with us here at Gwen central :D
>1) What have you drawn for the festival
An inviting Gwen piece
>2) What attracted you to Gwen?
I love three things about girls: intelligence, red hair and tomboy style. Gwen has all of them in one package.
No brainer. I've always been intrigued by the maturity of the character too.
>3) Can you remember the first time you drew her/ what compelled you to draw her?
The first time I watched the show I searched the internet after some pics of her but couldn't find any. I started an account on WWOEC and looked for any pics there but didn't have any luck so I decided to start doing it. Just as I started posting other artists had also started doing it like Prophet and Raylude. We were the first guys to draw her back then.
>4) Do you have a favourite episode of the show?
No but I really like the special "The Secret of the Omnitrix".
>5) Who is your favourite Gwen rule 34 artist/ which is your favourite Gwen rule 34 artwork?
Ok, that's a tough one. I like artists that think outside the box and are not afraid to experiment with the pic. That said my favorite ones in a pinch would be Noukyuu and Apostle.
Hope this is acceptable.
your comments are more than acceptable, Dankwart
Thanks for give it a bit of time and answer those questions
It was quite illustrative and interesting even
That's perfect dankwart. I do remember you were one of the very first to draw Gwen. There are some pics that I didn't even realise you did, like this one uploaded in 2007!
LOL... that was my very first one. The first time I used a painting software also. It was a Corel something, don't remember.
Gosh... the terrible anatomy and lack of background.
Haha not at all dank, this pic is so on-model it's actually impressive XD
New one by ntrev in pixiv
Having to post this from my phone. They permabanned me on here on my computer and gave no reason.
I appealed but who knows if that works.
So this is a heads up letting you know if you never see me post again.
Well anyway here's a wip for my next contribution. Will finish tomorrow. And I will be posting it on my pixiv.
And because of this I might be done with pco. I've had so many issues with this board anyway.
Permabanned? That's weird. Could be a mistake. Don't know that you broke any rules.
Content Suggestion: alternate Gwen designs.
We ask artists to imagine that they are the character designer of OS Ben 10.. what outfit would they have designed for Gwen to wear?
Never have heard of something similar before, this site is often pretty flexible, are you sure you didn't do something against rules?
Would be a shame losing you for something like that, maybe you could contact the admin here
btw love the pic, it only would need a few small tweaks, just letme see if I can point them out with a pic for a better explanation
Sorry for its quality, I did it on my phone
They're some small tweaks, and the main ones are her right leg, her top alignment and her mouth
Hope this pic could be useful, loved this last drawing you did and I think this way you can make it even more
I'm glad to see how much your style have improved so far, please don't stop drawing, practice makes the master
Hope you mean alternative outfits only, because her design is already great
I love her face and hairstyle, same with her colors and her body
But sounds like a great idea overall, different kinky outfits could be an option as well
I have no new content to proof i am artist, but I can say this board has been pretty hostile to me in the past several times as well, threads where i post my art suddenly go far on the list, or dissapear, hotile attitude of quite a good amout of people, shitposting to make my pictures go lost deep in the thread and so on, I can tell this is not a friendly place if you are not INCOGNITYMOUS the great, i am sorry to be needing to pint it out, but you guys make a great effort on putting off some of the artists, and some nice words aren´t going to change what I know it is true
>I have no new content to proof i am artist
Well it's hard to know who you are if you don't even say your artistic name, and I suppose you aren't a ben 10 artist? Because I haven't seen a really hostile attitude around
Sometimes someone starts an argument or bring on some insensitive opinions but nothing more
It would help a lot knowing who you are, I can't recall seeing shitposting to bury new art, at least in these ben10 threads so far
I can see why you feel people have a strong preference for Incognitymous but it doesn't means any other artist can't come and post his art.
Maybe could be some persons made some strong criticism to your drawings and you took them as a personal attack, so if that's the case, please try again. I'm sure people is a bit more open now we have this Gwenfest arond with some artists already actively contributing.
It's duke. He's jealous of Incog. Basically, every post that minimises Incog's impact on the community has been him.
>Hope you mean alternative outfits only, because her design is already great
Yeah, exactly that. The brief stated "what *outfit*" would you have designed for Gwen to wear?
I agree she's overall flawless and I would never change a thing. It would be interesting to see what some of the artists out there come up with though.
>Basically, every post that minimises Incog's impact on the community has been him.
Hope you aren't talking about criticism, because I'm sure not everyone think Incogs works are flawless or the best ben 10 material out there
I mean, he's a great artist, but Ive heard some people talking about his drawings being perfect or even as totally on model to the point of can't tell if it's a pic from the actual show, which is just ridiculous
Criticism isn't the same as minimizing an artist work, in this case Incognitymous have had a great impact in ben10 r34 stuff, and some of his pics are iconic even.
But again, you can't just say he's the best as if that were a fact, as some of his fans intend to do.
I agree the way he talks about him shows a negative feeling though, and personally can't say if mods have a personal preference for Incog, but sometimes some of his fans tend to minimize other artists here so maybe that was what happened to him
you are writing a wall of text trying to prove that I was starting an argument, i can say I was just seconding ANOTHER PERSON OPINION while it felt fitting to me, i said he was right as far as I can tell.
regarding pics, I have two pics of gwen on the works, but right now they are just far in my schedulle, to dismay of those trying to say I am degenerate exclusive lolicon artist, I suppose.
yeah that was formerly my name, after that I would use kapitansmit, but I wasn´t totally liking that name so I just changed it to STARCADER put that name in your memory, right now I am busy setting my patreon but I will be uploading again soon and if you may want to look around you can already find some pics in my currently newborn deviantart page, but there you´ll see three pics of mine, i will be trying to share more soon. I wont post anything here while it is a benten thread and I have no new gwens or the like as I said
and I am not jealous of incog, may he enjoy the honey of fame and fan recognition, it only pains me how I CAN TELL some other artists here around are washed away and treated badly AS I HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TIMES.
I wont add much criticism to incog´s style or skills, for it would be used (as I perfectly know would happen) against me to proof that I have been trying to minimise incog´s art with my comment, but i wish his figures wouldn´t feel so incredibly stiff, and even if gwen is a lolita, puting on her the slightest hint of a good ratio waist-hips would kill him, that is for sure, but ey, if it is his style, so be it, I am just giving my opinion, while it was commented on the matter, kudos to incog, the day i am the tyrant of some disfortunate little shithole of a country there somewhere in some ficticious continent, i want to have an army as loyal as incogn´s fans, that is for sure, they are at least willing to go trolling and fucking with other artists, and that is way more of what ANYONE can say about what I have ever done in my life to any other artist, but ey, it´s not like i can proof anything, so fuck my life. thanks you in regard to the fact that you were kind of saying something in the lne of what i think, not that it will save my ass from the incoming shit-storm. and dont say I am producing it, I just know too well how this board goes, at least regarding my person, that is for sure, what a surprise would it be if the war-dog would bite their tongues now that I said that, any possible outcome will please me I suppose, ha!
>you are writing a wall of text trying to prove that I was starting an argument, i can say I was just seconding ANOTHER PERSON OPINION while it felt fitting to me, i said he was right as far as I can tell.
Uh I guess you were replying to me here >>217575
but seems you misunderstood it
When I was talking about 'sometimes someone starts an argument or bring on some insensitive opinions but nothing more' I said it in the matter of just the negative behavior Ive seen so far here, because you were talking of shitposting and such against you, but never trying to say you were starting an argument. Sorry for the confusion
Wish to tell you to calm down a bit but it seems a lot of stuff have happened to you here so, hope things can go better for you from now, sad to know we aren't gonna get any more Gwen pics from you soon though, or at least here but I'm not sure how that can be fixed if you think you aren't welcome
Talking about myself I have been always happy to see people drawing her, without thinking better of any other artist but trying to be grateful for their time and effort
After all, even if some people say some being on model is better, Id say it's a tastes matter, because I enjoy way more when artists impress they own style to her, but again just my own opinion
I must admit that I already come here on defensive-mode, I see you weren´t ill-hearted towards me and i apologize to you, and I mean it.
in all sincerity i will draw those gwen pics because I try to deliver after I have put my word on it, but I truelly need to say that i feel this place will be not friendly to me anymore so that is it, be thankful to the trolls for it, it doesn´t mean I will not draw gwen when i feel like it but I dont know if i will posting it here, that would be unlikely, I feel this place is just a strange drawings honey pot, so, there will be just more trolls than actual fans around, and that is a great "negative reinforcement" that is for sure. not that there is any negative reinforcement that could destroy art inside a man´s heart, but well, i am sure some people will keep on trying, they need to feed their cubs, I suppose, i just hope they are using their time in what gives them the most money, and not doing it just because of pure hatred, that would be heart-breaking to say the least.
thanks for the good vibes.... if you aren´t just a cunning shill with a long-term plot, that is.
>I must admit that I already come here on defensive-mode, I see you weren´t ill-hearted towards me and i apologize to you, and I mean it.
It's ok, I guess I understand why you feel like that if you have had those negative experience before in this place
Also even if Im grateful for knowing you will keep drawing her, Im worried about cant see your drawings anymore around here, so is there another place where I could see them then?
>thanks for the good vibes.... if you aren´t just a cunning shill with a long-term plot, that is.
You're welcome, and I'm just being honest here so don't worry
Hey...hummm... If any other artist here feels like it, I'm open to help with some pointers to improve your art.
I'm not always here but these days I'm lurking around.
Sometimes a little help can spruce things up and help a bit.
At least until I get sucked in Destiny's new update.
Here you go.
Look, when drawing the pose try to do a bone figure and build that up till you get the sketch done.
All body parts have a limit when positioning so be careful. Her hips are way to high on her left side. Hips don't move too much up and down. If you try to do that yourself you'll see that it doesn't go that far.
Hands are some of the most difficult things to draw so when doing it go for natural poses.
Her thigh has a connection that shouldn't exist.
Even a cartoon has an anatomic logic. There are some model sheets for Gwen that can help you with proportions but knowing anatomy will speed things up for you so study that a little bit.
Overall I'm impressed by how far you got since you started. Keep drawing, it's the best teacher.
Well I was asking about the fixes/details I pointed out for Panzers pic since I'm not him but wow, those advices are great
I love when artists can illustrate them like you did
Hope Panzer dont mind though, same with my own advices for those small details
also we have a model sheet here btw >>216802 if someone wanna take note about Gwens design
I still like people can draw her freely, as how Pepipopo did though, but your advices apply even for a stylized Gwen drawing, since despite they can look a bit different, they still have their own anatomy logic
It's difficult to know who's who with so many anons around...
I thought it was Panzer, really sorry if I overstepped here.
Still permabanned. So I'm gonna be done with pco for now.
Here's the finished pic.
Do what you will with it.
Never really liked it anyway.
Gonna be doing commissions and requests from 8chan.
>washed away and treated badly AS I HAVE BEEN
Duke, that's a prejudice people have of you after the incident. You know what I'm talking about. I won't bring it up here as I'm sure you're tying to put it all behind you. I don't think it was personal or about your works which are very good I must say. Your Pennys are fantastic. You broke a code and scorned some people that's all, and some of them are not so forgiving nor do they want to forget.
Sad thing knowing youre leaving, but being permabanned with any apparent reason isnt funny
Hope someday you return though, and again sorry about pointing out those details before, never intended to do it with a bad feeling and Im sure Dankwart was just giving his honest opinnion as an artist too, how he stated before
>even if gwen is a lolita, puting on her the slightest hint of a good ratio waist-hips would kill him,
no because, on model, gwen has no hips. he reveres the character too much to draw her differently. that's why he's praised so much, because of accuracies so subtle, not everyone will understand it.
well, have you run out of ideas to try to say shit about me? what code? what is what you are babbling about? buddy if you cant talk openly, dont do it... if you can, then do it.
as far as I can tell, i dont know what you are talking about, i just left for a while, that is all, any artist can do that, or do you want to make a big fuss of that? jess....
and if you dont mind it, call me STARCADER, just to keep it cabal, I know you think calling me duke displeases me, but ey, dont even try to hide it,
The time you ran away with commission money and didn't deliver requested artwork. Some people are pissed by that. That's largely frowned upon as it abuses the honor system
>...he reveres the character too much to draw her differently.
Not Duke but I can understand why you think that way, however I dont think it's about him revering her or anything, it's just how his style evolved through years. You can even see other girls from his loliclub and some even look as Gwen with a different hairstyle sometimes.
I'm not trying to say bad things about Incognitymous, I think he's a great artist and I like his style but I'm just trying to give some light to those misconceptions some people seem to have here about him when it comes to draw Gwen.
>that's why he's praised so much, because of accuracies so subtle, not everyone will understand it.
Sadly this is parcially true. because some even praise him, this make them blind to see though his drawings and style, so they can't take some criticism about his works though.
Even Incog have done it, accepting some flaws in his drawings and learning from them, which is something important to do for any artist.
It's curious how his fans often bring on such things as those accuracies so subtle how you said it, when for anyone who wanna look for it, would be easy to spot certain flaws if you compare his works with the actual show, which in the end is an ridiculous argument, not just because the show itself has some minor chances sometimes, but 'cause it's just Incog's style after all
Nothing to do with accuracy even if you say he's who's closer to it, since this statement is totally subjective for those 'flaws' he'd has if you put his works next to the show artstyle, and because evryone has different opinnions too about accuracy and tastes
No not this one.
I still haven't made one I like enough yet.
I will eventually though.
Without getting into paragraphs of drama let's try to focus on the task at hand. Few questions I'd like to raise about the magazine:
1- what is the format, PDF? Website? It would make sense to be able to click on hotlinks that take you directly to artist's paheal galleries and Patreon pages. I was thinking we could do it in a social media format that incorporates features reminiscent of Instagram, YouTube and Facebook. Different to regular magazine, but very "now" and innovative.
2- how big will it be? with all these ideas of paying tribute to Gwen it seems as though the whole thing could go for 50+ pages
3- who decides content? As panzer mentioned here >>217507
>there should be someone who has final say on the final product
Maybe we can create the pages for our pitches ourselves then link them to the contents page as their own sections. That way it's 100% collaborative and literally anyone can contribute to it.
Exactly. Really no point arguing about it. Us purists will always be in awe of his work though. Those craving a slightly augmented, fresh take on the character will search elsewhere for an ideal interpretation, or draw her themselves to their liking.
that is a LIE and that is all I need to say. as I said, I am again just being attacked here it cant be helped it seems.
>social media format
I dont see why bother, I'd say PDF is fine since you can add links too
>how big will it be?
I dont think this can be a problem, but I'd say we should select the very best of the year and less than 40 pages
Less is more
>who decides content?
>Maybe we can create the pages for our pitches ourselves then link them to the contents page as their own sections.
>That way it's 100% collaborative and literally anyone can contribute to it.
Now this sounds good, we can throw ideas here, recopilate info and share our formats, templates and samples so everyone can give their opinnions about it then see how it's gonna be the main format and such
So after having the cover and templates ready, we can just start selecting works or artists and people could take some and edited them, share them here and if people are ok with it, apply the magazine template and add it to the final product.
If we link them we should need to use an external site to have them available, and if everyone upload them to any kind of sites, someday they cant just be deleted or just edited
I'd say we can just include them in the magazine, the pic fitted to it with some edits for the magazine itself such as some comments there and a link to the image in hires in paheal even in a corner
follow me on deviantart
obviously I wont be posting anything underage that may be adult oriented, but you could get feedback and a show case for my other acounts an what not, as any other artist... I am considering pixiv... I´ll see
No sorry I meant a format *reminiscent* of social media that incorporates traits of it, so we're actively engaging the viewer. It's the only way I can think of to attract people and keep them reading and turning the page, otherwise it's just a series of pics that they've already seen before online. The last thing you want to create is something that everyone feels was a pointless endeavour. I'm only spitballing here so the idea is open to be expanded upon.
I bet we could make an Instagram account of this magazine with the interface acting as table of contents. Each image represents a section that links to an external blog (our magazine) that everyone can contribute to. Otherwise it's a PDF that's unchangeable that everyone needs to download from somewhere.
It's forward thinking. And instagram being used as a magazine isn't new. Like Volo are on there. If you click on the pics it will have a link to the full pictorial. https://www.instagram.com/volomagazine/
Obviously we can't use Instagram but there should be something similar.
>Those craving a slightly augmented, fresh take on the character or something more accurate to her design will search elsewhere for an ideal interpretation, or draw her themselves to their liking.
there's no need of any argument but let's be fair, and don't imply if we look for something aside of Incog, it won't be more accurate to gwen's design
he has his own style for draw her, that's all, nothing flawless or 100% on model, despite of some of you 'purists' saying he's the best at it and taking it as a fact, even sometimes minimizing other artists' works
>I wont be posting anything underage that may be adult oriented
So were could I find your Gwen works then?
Pixiv is great, and for those complaining for censoring, you can always put a censored pic as a first image and the uncensored version next to it, so they wont know you're uploading a uncensored work, just as some artists like CaptJerkpants do, pretty useful
New demo from skuddbutt
just follow me on deviantart, or are you just ineterested on gwen pics? because I dont mean to deceive anyone, I am not going to be a "gwen artist" I drew gwen sometimes I like her as a design, but I have some many other themes and characters to draw, you know... just stay tuned you will be getting some gwen from me once in a while, that is my idea, about pixiv we will see, let´s not ursh thing i said I am on it I´ll work something out
>>217623 that site wants you to take down your ad blocker...i suggest that you be very weary in doing so
The site bombards you with ads when you touch it, probably 4-5 times. Just close the windows, swat them away like flies. It's a normal website after that, just gotta get through that forcefield of ads.
Also use Noscript and block the sites script. You can still trigger an occasional ad but it stops a lot from activation.
Not really, I've seen lots of people still asking for sources and such, and I'm sure any person who likes Gwen would gladly have this magazine in his collection
I would think of it more as a section though, but I wouldn't like it for the magazine overall format and templates since it would look as if it would lack creativity, idk kinda silly even
I don't think Instagram would be a real option for posting Gwen. And for that external blog idea you still would need a site that could be deleted by publish lolis too.
A PDF is unchangeable yeah, albeit that's an advantage, 'cause then you'd have the whole magazine without any need of updates for people editing it / adding more pages, or some images missing due to a nuked blog / account
Not sure if would there a similar site that could allow posting 'underage' characters online like instagram though
So far a PDF format seems the most available option imo
Y'all caught me in a depressed mood earlier. I'm not going anywhere.
I'm still going to post here considering how things are going. But I'll be posting less because I'm relegated to my phone.
I'm still trying to make a good Gwen pic for Gwenfest. Just haven't made anything I like yet.
And some more info on the comic I mentioned. Gonna start on the script soon. If anyone wants I can post it and updates on it if you like. I could use feedback and shit on that.
>we can throw ideas here, recopilate info and share our formats, templates and samples so everyone can give their opinnions about it then see how it's gonna be the main format and such
Cool, so templates in PNG format here, with details on font, font sizes etc.. Would be great to use the artists' personal logos and stylised fonts as well if they have any, to help foster their brand.
>If we link them we should need to use an external site to have them available
It would have to be through a customisable wordpress-type (adults only) blog. If there's a free website that allows you to create a magazine with it even better. Consider what we would use as the front page though. It needs to be easily accessible to all.
That's great, hope your ban status can be solved soon
and yeah I'd like to have some updates about what youre cooking too
>A PDF is unchangeable yeah, albeit that's an advantage, 'cause then you'd have the whole magazine without any need of updates for people editing it / adding more pages, or some images missing due to a nuked blog / account. So far a PDF format seems the most available option imo
Yeah I guess using a social media interface similar to Instagram is over-thinking it. And, yes, too much exposure might be trouble. (The only place you would want the magazine and the link to it advertised would be paheal... Keep it niche). But I do think an external domain is needed to upload our pitches though. We can do it here, but there's a risk of losing everything if all of plus4chan goes down. Somewhere tat allows images to be easily sorted. Then, from that pile of completed pages, we handpick the best content and put together a final product.
Awwww HELL YEAH.
Pretty soon we'll have some 3D Gwen action for Gwen Illustrated
>We need.. somewhere that allows images to be easily sorted. Then, from that pile of completed pages, we handpick the best content and put together a final product.
I can't think of a place that's both discreet AND accessible for everyone involved to monitor progress
I dunno Gwen Illustrated sounds like a dictionary lol
how about Gwenfest 2017 instead with GT in her cat logo or something?
Yeah I think 'Gwenfest 2017' is genuinely exciting. "Does anyone have the link to Gwenfest 2019?" is something that I can see legitimitely occurring haha
same, it's something we should had a long time ago
Im glad it's happening now
I know this is rather out of left field, but would anyone be down for music for Gwenfest?
For example I made this for the anons in the trash threads a while back
I can pretty much make nearly anything.
So if you want shit like this
https://youtu.be/yOZmCQWZ5tw lemme know.
Or anything else you want.
I just want to contribute in every single way I can
Sure Panzer. 'My Girlfriend' by Trevor Something is the song that most reminds me of Gwen
Holy fuck I love that song, coud you please do something like that maybe?
new Gwen thread on co
I know mods are gonna kill it but wanted to post it anyway
btw I wasn't the one who made it
Darn its gone. How was the party?
Alright we're gonna have fun with this. We're going to use typography in interesting ways and make it play on Gwen's streamlined form. Without overthinking it, we're going to come up with visual themes for each section that will relate with one another and hopefully bring the magazine together artistically. Pic related were some cool examples of some unique layouts I could find. They're mostly angular and hard edged, which is a theme that wouldn't quite suit Gwen, but then her body isn't exactly the most feminine and curvy either, or at least not enough to warrant soft shapes and fonts.
There's a chance that the PDF will get ripped and tagged as #Gwenfest in paheal and maybe, eventually, the boorus. We'd want these individual pages to be interesting to look at, otherwise theres not much point to them. The last thing we want is for fellow Gwen fans to see the pages as dupes or a collage of edits of images that already exist. Although it is exactly pretty much that in a sense, new information and insight would at least give the images a point of interest. Which is where the writers come in. If there are any wannabe journalists out there let's start writing. We're brainstorming segments next. Let's aim for the visual flair of 'Legion' (if a TV show could be a magazine) and a Buzzfeed list article.
Sadly it was killed quickly
>tfw you have no qt gf to call you "puppy" while she jerks you off
>tfw you can't see the gleeful smile on her face as she watches you struggle to hold out until given permission to cum
>tfw no "good boy" and headpats when you manage to hold off until she says you can cum
>tfw no loving cuddling after the kinky stuff is over while you watch animu and eat ice cream from the same pint
>ywn take Gwen out to buy her first training bra
>ywn beg for her to give you a lap dance with the new matching bra and thong set you bought her
>ywn know the feeling of lying on her bed staring longingly at her waiting for her to finish her homework so she can put on the new underwear you bought her and give you the strip tease
From the top of my head here's what I got. My proposal:
-Table of contents
-A few classic screenshots of Gwen in the cartoon looking cute to establish mood. No words. The magazine will be interspersed with these candid screenshots to create an experience
'Welcome to Gwenfest'- Intro. A few words from the team, basically the mission statement of the whole thing, summarising each segment and what to expect from each of them.
'The Phenomenon of Fit Gwen': article in pictures exploring its origins and reason for the meme's ongoing popularity. 2 page spread
'What if..?' 2 page spread based on this >>217570 idea, exploring alternate designs of Gwen's casual wear as drawn by various contributors. Would be fascinating to gain insight into each artist's choice of re-design with a few words.
'Artists of 2017'- this is the meat of the book. Multiple pages featuring contributor artwork. Might need to do 3 artists per spread, and not one per 2-page spread as initially suggested, or the book will run up to 50 pages. 10 pages of fresh artwork and artists giving their insights is a safe number.
'Top 10 Gwen artworks of all time'- this will be decided by a massive strawpoll vote over an extended period.. someone's gotta be responsible for this lol. It's a countdown so it might take over 4 pages.
Feature: Sultry Summer- the latest Gwen comic. Angle: an excercise in long form storytelling.. few words by incog on his motivation for it.. details on where to access it.. FOLLOWED BY a short side-article on classic Gwen stories of the past. Everyone will be familiar with these so a short sentence to summarise the story can accompany their covers.
A segment about the swimsuits Gwen has worn throughout rule 34 history maybe
A segment about Lucky Girl is needed
'Sealed section'- like the old days of porn magazines. Fresh (hopefully) pics of Gwen fully nude and at her most explicit.
Give or take to me that's a comprehensive experience of what makes Gwen awesome, and it's pornographic too. Page after page of fap material. Anyone else got any ideas for features?
I see this clocking in at 30 pages, which isn't bad
>'Top 10 Gwen artworks of all time'- this will be decided by a massive strawpoll vote over an extended period.. someone's gotta be responsible for this lol. It's a countdown so it might take over 4 pages.
>Almost 5k of Gwen pics on pageal
Yeah that idea sounds really impractical
At least better than choosing top 10 Gwen artists, comparing them would be pretty rude since some are already contributing
>Feature: Sultry Summer- the latest Gwen comic.
With this I understand we're gonna post only the cover, right? That way people could visit Incognitymous' place to see it, which would help him to have more visitors there.
We just need to include a link and a few words from him as you said, maybe with cropped pics from the comic along with the paragraphs so it can look fresh as a two pages article
About classic Gwen stories, fanfics are gonna be included here?
I can't recall all I've read but I know there are some quite good
Would it be fine if I did some music themed Gwens? Because I don't see many of those.
I actually did a metal themed Gwen like 6 months ago. I wanna do another one.
I haven't liked any of the recent pics I've done. I'm thinking it's because bikini pics are rather high in quantity. And I've been subconsciously comparing mine to all the other ones out there
>Almost 5k of Gwen pics on pageal
>Yeah that idea sounds really impractical
At least better than choosing top 10 Gwen artists, comparing them would be pretty rude since some are already contributing
Well it would be a 3 step process. The editors here pick their top 20, agree on 30 of those to be voted on based on a combined pool of 30 of the creme de la creme to be put to the vote among them. That shouldn't be too hard. Of the 5000 there are clearly undisputed winners among them.
If that's too hard, we can always just dictate the Top 10, YouTube shows to it all the time. Such lists instigate healthy debates among fans, and the point of any media is to start a dialogue.
Do this one Panz >217570
Seems there have been a few already
So I can pretty much draw Gwen in any outfit I want?
Works for me.
Pretty much. It's a dream scenario. You're the character designer for Ben 10, a new show on Cartoon Network... What would you have her wear?
It's not only about if it's something that can be done or no.
Everytime with any kind of top list, you'd be underestimating the hard work and effort of rest of the artists until now.
Also many of them wouldn't like the idea of having their drawing rated or compared
Having a top 10 thing is just a bad idea imo
Went and tweaked this. Should be good to go for gwenfest now.
I'm still doing more for it tho.
And I'm not banned anymore as I am posting this from my computer
It was really going to be an "All-Stars Gallery", where we showcase the likes of Fuchur, GFD and John Doe's portrayals of Gwen- big heavyweight names who've drawn her. Apostle, Tekuho, Splooge, Simon etc.. But under a guise of a Top Ten.
I love it Panz. Could be the feature image in the swimsuit section.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that this is for the festival >:)
I propose a feature: Gwen's Family Tree. It would look like a traditional family tree except all the pics show Gwen having sex with each of her family members. Can use already existing pics available.
It couldn't be a proper 10 then or at least an easy task, since there are so many renowned artists that have drawn this sexy redhead. An interesting idea though, and we could select max 5 pics for every artists if some have so many to make iy easier
Thinking about it, it's like if every famous worthy artist out there have drawn Gwen at least once, or drawing her is a very known way in the r34 world to have a place between the very best artists
Even if I'm just kidding around with this idea, I can't deny it's amazing seeing an artist whose style I like, suddenly drawing her one day for the first time
It's fucking great
Hmm I dunno.. I like that it'd be rounded off to that number. Ben's nowhere in sight for any of this project but having a '10' theme throughout might be a good subliminal reference to the source material.
>Barely into Gwen and Ben
>Not into her and Max
Haha ok maybe we don't show her being rogered by grandpa. What about her father Frank?
We would call it "Meet the Tennysons". Basically everything we're doing in the magazine is Gwen-centric and will serve to take readers deeper into her world. For me it's an excuse to illustrate how promiscuous and kinky Gwen can be. Plus I'd like to give those unaware of her family life to meet Lucy Mann and Sunny.
Imo that's a bad idea. You are going to rate artists work based on what? Fap potential? Artistic view? Composition? Anatomy use? what's the criteria for this exactly?
From what I've seen here 7 out of 10 will be Incog's work just out of sheer fanboyish behavior.
It would be fair if you choose 10 artists and then vote on their best renditions to the character. That way there would be 10 pics chosen by the community from different artists respecting their work.
Makes sense. It really does. Glad we could come up with a solution to that.
Why not just Gwen central and let readers take care of the incestuous undertones by themselves?
I mean, anybody who likes Gwen by it already know them, also Lucy and Sunny sounds like a waste of space tbqh
Nah with Ben is already enough
I'm sure mostly of people that are into incest and Gwen is just because her cousin
How about a pictorial where we ask "is skuddbutt's model the future of Gwen porn?" etc.. I think it's an interesting time to write about it since we're only seeing the beginnings of its potential to make full, animated movies of her. Then we can segue into those cute images of Gwen in 'Destroy All Aliens"
>It would be fair if you choose 10 artists and then vote on their best renditions to the character. That way there would be 10 pics chosen by the community from different artists respecting their work.
It would be still falling into subjective criteria about how to select them though
That said, the only way to give an equal treatment and respect to every artist is not doing any rate, comparison or top list, simple as that
It's a bad idea letting people who don't know about artistic stuff decide what work is better by simplistic standars and polls.
I'll do a pitch, try to get you on side. It'll be light-hearted.
Gwen is famous by herself and the incestuous stuff comes by her cousin only
I don't see the need for include other family members, even her grandpa
It's not to be taken seriously. I think the masses can agree that an artist like Fuchur has more skill than Incog. You've only got to base it on skill level
I understand that, but still I highly doubt people wana know what us pervs think after all, about what pics we like the most and such
also speaking technically, making a rating thing would be hard to get it done, since gwen porn keep flowing and it ain't slowing down any time soon (thank goddess, fuck you speedy)
we'd have to wait 'till 2017 ends to do a right poll system as well
>I highly doubt people wana know about what pics we like the most
It's about having the best of the best- her most iconic portraits- on the same page, to be honored, nothing more. Completely inoffensive
>With this I understand we're gonna post only the cover, right? That way people could visit Incognitymous' place to see it, which would help him to have more visitors there.
Yes, just the covers, maybe a sample page of the interior artwork. And definitely a summary to caption it. With this page, we're curating the longer comics and having the links to all of them in the one page. The purpose is to encourage people to read these stories, and ultimately inspire them to tell their own.
Sounds about right, putting the two pages together is a obvious choice
We can include author's comments and a short description inside too
Almost forgot about that comic, wish it would has had a Gwen cover instead
A lot of them don't. 'Witch With No Name' has Charm on the front.
Fanfics would be interesting to include but there are a lot of those. Maybe we can find 10 of the most well-known ones and link to them too.
>Fanfics would be interesting to include but there are a lot of those. Maybe we can find 10 of the most well-known ones and link to them too.
Im thinking of adult fanfictions or hentai foundry, since I dont read lots fanfics myself, but maybe people may know other places
It would be helpful if people who know most of them could give us a small description of the fanfics so we can see if it's fitting to the Gwenfest
>It would be helpful if people who know most of them could give us a small description of the fanfics so we can see if it's fitting to Gwenfest
Usually these Fanfic sites already have a summary. Easy enough to copy and paste the ones we deem relevant.
Content idea: a page with ideas for Gwen merchandise, like dakimakura love pillows, Lucky Girl sex toys, pornographic images of Gwen on t-shirts and panties, mouse pads (like this >>217717). Trying to figure out an angle so it isn't pointless but it's mainly all for fun.
I'd love having some for real
Incog's latest of her
wish he could put more effort in her eyebrows and lower her eyes a bit more tho
and a slimmer neck
love her flatness and nipples
Saw this new comic by Fixxxer. Comes from the old school way of thinking that implies "if you love a girl, then you mercilessly beat the shit out of her" which I can't say I'm for!
who's the lucky son of a bitch inside her?
Page 8 of Sultry Summer is out!
Incog sure knows how to tease XD
whatever man, new Gwen is good for a side girl while we wait for the main event
Wait for it, there will be a lot of sex after the build-up to it
does anyone have higher resolution for this comic?
The high res is in his site and it's glorious. Gotta pay for it, though. Nothing comes free in this life.
We totally need to bring up Skuddbutt's 3D Gwens in the magazine. I don't think he's getting enough kudos for that breakthrough.
>Nothing comes free in this life
not really, there are just people who decide charge for it tho
man gotta eat i know, just sad he was always against getting money for his drawings
curious thing his drawings were better when they were free
just saying, i like his style
Not enough. He was getting paid $1 a piece at one point
I need that pregnant Gwen sticker
Holy shit.. that's the angle to take with the merchandise page.
Brainstorming- Gwen games, are there any worth mentioning?
There was this swf basketball game, with her running with a ball.
Was editing it a long time ago but I could give it a try again
Editing text, background and the colors to make it looks like she's nude
I think it was Gwen loops or something like that
If you people know of more Gwen games, even flash ones, please mention them to see if I can edit them too
>curious thing his drawings were better when they were free
I'm sure that not worrying about how to pay the rent thanks to his drawings has decreased his quality. 100% legit.
Jeez, these whiners and their logic. Does it really poke a hole in your condom that he releases his works with a delay unless you pay? It's not like he's keeping them from the public.
>I'm sure that not worrying about how to pay the rent thanks to his drawings has decreased his quality. 100% legit.
>Jeez, these whiners and their logic.
So if he already got the fanbase (and money) he needed running by now, do you think he still needs to worry about improving to attract more people, when fans like you can't tell a thing about quality and when he already got other things to worry about?
I'd say you could always look for improvement as an artist, but that's secondary when your art is already paying your bills good enough, and you are really busy with more stuff to get done when you were already payed for it.
It's not like if people like you could mind about it anyways, but trying to say now he's getting money his works are better than before it's just plain silly.
>Does it really poke a hole in your condom that he releases his works with a delay unless you pay? It's not like he's keeping them from the public.
Yeah I don't crave them tbh, but I'm sure people that do it are way more worried about that short delay than getting the original hires quality of his drawings
But you're right, it's not like he's keeping them from the public.
Who here would dress their girlfriend like Gwen :p
So, you guys are full of nice ideas but take it easy. Before thinking about merchandising or games, finish the first issue and learn from it before going to the next.
Start small and then build from there.
If you create so many objectives like that the risk to come out short is really big.
Focus on the first one, overall layout, cover, editorial, features like clothing themes, maybe a small exclusive comic and an area for special pics with a centerfold or something like it and then finish with an article about a specific cartoon episode, trivia or such.
Organization and focus make a good magazine.
Hope it helps.
Agree, Dankwart. We're brainstorming for now. Obviously not everything will be able to be made this year but it's good to have everyone exchanging ideas and building on them.
Haha dank we're not really going to start creating merchandise. I was thinking of doing an article on the iconic 'Pregnant Gwen' sticker to lead into a humorous list of imagined products that would be equally disturbing if they were to exist irl.
Anyone know of any Gwen memes? Maybe we could do a page on that as well.
Heads up Skuddbutt's made some handjob clips and they're pretty awesome
Yep, seems someone got him again
He has a twitter account for anyone interested tho
Found this short while searching for Gwen memes
>A segment about the swimsuits Gwen has worn throughout rule 34 history maybe
How about we do a Top Ten of this. If we can't do the Top 10 Best Artwork thing then swimsuits worn might be ok. You need a good, old fashioned list in a magazine. (Apostle would be my #1 for GOAT pic btw)
Oh yeah. This needs to be featured.
I love those pics
Wish Apostle would draw her again
A quick sketch.
Got any American Dad or Family Guy related drawings in the works?
These Apostle Gwen drawings are pretty epic like of a movie poster quality. I prefer the flat colors with minimal renders of the animation cel style myself personally.
Perfect bombshell pose. And is she out in public??
>Ben 10: Slave Quest game
Not really, it turned into a omniverse stuff despite people voted to include os gwen instead
Got bored and sketched something. Shall I finish?
Looks good, but let her blow an adult man instead
He is adult, have you ever seen a young boy with that large penis?
It's clearly her cousin, the watch just needs definition
found these too
Where would a giant rape demon get money from? Why would he bother offering her that option?
Speaking of memes i made this a while back
Haha this is so applicable to me. Why is she so perfect, bros?
Do one that says "When your cousin won't stop begging you for sex" on a pic where Gwen is rolling her eyes or looking annoyed
I forgot, I follow him on Pixiv.
It's a shame he didn't draw her doing porn
I know that artist in person....
Tell him to draw our girl nude XD