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Previous thread: >>41948

Batman v Superman Comic-Con trailer is out.

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No.43309
Anonymous
Replies:>>43311
Sorry, still can't take Eisenberg Luthor seriously at all. Not with that last bit.
No.43311
Bunker
>>43309
Still don't understand why he wears a wig since posters show bald. Also I think all the super alien hate and desert attack Batman is a bit silly. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Be nice for another franchise to work.
No.43313
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Actually slightly less hype than I was before, and I wasn't even all that hype for the film to begin with.
No.43314
Anonymous
It looks like it could be an interesting movie on its own, but not as an adaptation of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, or any of that stuff. Might as well just call it an adaptation of Supreme, Glory, and whoever Imagebats is.
No.43316
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>43318
>>43314

Snyder seems too preoccupied with '90s grimdark Miller-era shit. Between the muted color scheme of MoS and all the Batman stuff in BvS: Actual Movie Title, the DC Cinematic Galaxy as it stands right now seems to be going for grimdark "realisim" and a more "serious" tone than the MCU - and I'd rather have the campy fun of the MCU than whatever the hell Snyder wants to serve up.
No.43317
Bunker
>>43314
It reminds me a lot of that one episode of TAS with all the kids telling stories about Batman from from different angles and mediums. Cept this one ties them all together with overarching plot. I mean we've got some Dark Knight bit of Red Son maybe Injustice along with others. I worry it's going to come apart like Green Lantern did with all its story beats being clearly tooseperate to mesh fluidly.
No.43318
Anonymous
>>43316
I think theoretically the DCCU could work as the dark and edgy counterpart to the MCU if it wasn't focused solely on those grimdark elements, if it had more a more competent showrunner, or if it wasn't Snyder as de facto head of creative direction.

Marvel gets a lot of shit for stifling its directors or for being samey, and I agree to an extent that they need to be transparent about that to the people they bring on, and maybe stop shoehorning connections to other films as extended ads, but as long as they're open with the people they work with and let them know what, from that it's not something that bothers me. It's an absolutely vital compromise if you want to ensure that your greater universe remains cohesive. This is something the DCCU currently lacks, and does not bode well for their Justice League film.

That's why when DuVernay backed out of Black Panther I don't necessarily see that as a failure on Marvel's part like some people claim. The two had different visions of the character. DuVernay wanted a more standalone project with maybe her own origin story, while Marvel wanted it to be true to the (also good if you're reading Priest's run) comics and mesh with the rest of the MCU. Better that they were frank and disagreed this early than for her to come on only for another Iron Man 2 or Wonder Woman fiasco to happen.
No.43320
Jumpman
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BvS Comic-Con panel.

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No.43322
T4 was here
Eh, still dont give a shit.
Nice WW being in the trailer doh.
No.43323
Jumpman
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No.43324
Anonymous
So, it seems that we are going to get yet another MY PARENTS ARE DEAD flashback in the movie, because audiences need to be reminded that Batman's parents are indeed dead and not on some extended caribbean vacations.

Other than that, pretty good trailer, although I am not getting a good reading of what are they doing with Lex.
No.43325
Anonymous
It's much better than the previous trailer, but still not enough to win me over completely. Affleck still sounds like a twat but enjoying Alfred's Scar/10.
No.43331
Anonymous
Alfred looks like one of those sexy English Literature teachers you had in middle school. Interesting to see fake Daniel Day Lewis in the role.
No.43335
Anonymous
I'm not liking Eisenberg's Luthor.
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Jumpman
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Jumpman
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Anonymous
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>>43352
I friggin' love the Kryptonian heat vision in MoS, it's the complete opposito of the "realistic" and barely visible crap in Superman Returns. I mean, just look at that, a pillar of sun-powered death slicing huge concrete building like they were nothing. How could anyone witness such insane display of power and not feel utterly insignificant?
No.43355
Bunker
>>43354
Makes me wonder what humanity will do when there is a team of six of them. Lock the door when the Justice League shows up.
No.43356
Alpharius
Suicide Squad - Comic-Con First Look
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No.43357
Anonymous
Replies:>>43366
>>43356
Waller looks great but the whole thing reeks of 2edgy4u.
No.43365
Anonymous
>>43356
THIS is supposed to be their Guardians of the Galaxy?
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Anonymous
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>>43365
Nah, I think thats the Green Lanturn Corps movie or whatever.
Or I thats what I want anyway...
>>43357
Needs more Pies.
No.43369
Anonymous
>>43356
So supposedly he's breaking Harley in those scenes.
No.43373
Anonymous
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>>43365
Only in the sense of the characters' relative obscurity. The Green Lanterns have more thematically in common with GOTG.
No.43374
girder
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>>43308
Why is it that costume designers for superhero movies insist on putting textures/patterns on the suits?

I've always felt that they put too much detail into stuff.
No.43375
T4 was here
>>43374
They want them to look more expensiv so they can jerk off their egos about how better they are then TV.
No.43391
Anonymous
>>43373
Not Necessarily the Justice League
No.43393
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/16/8974699/suicide-squad-trailer-youtube-dmca

Marvel may have sent out DMCAs for its trailers and all that, but even they didn't go this far.
No.43394
Anonymous
Replies:>>43396
>>43393
Oh for crying out loud. What the fuck is wrong with them that even discussion videos are being banned.
No.43395
Anonymous
Replies:>>43399
>>43393

Its like they really don't understand how to publicity. Marvel lets some things slide because it helps build the base and interest. Warner Bros is kinda making a mess of things.
No.43396
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>43398
>>43394

Warner Bros. does that for a lot of videos, DC or otherwise. The MovieBob has had several DMCA run-ins with WB over several videos (notably from his "Really That Good" series) that featured content from WB-owned films.
No.43398
Anonymous
>>43396
Have they knocked down that Channel with vids that Defend Man of Steel?
No.43399
Anonymous
Replies:>>43400
>>43395
The language from one of their responses, where they used terms "illegal sharing", made it sound like anyone who was a fan and wanted to see the trailer ASAP are horrible criminals. It's stupidity all around in WB, especially since it seems no one at WB considered it could leak.
No.43400
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43399

>especially since it seems no one at WB considered it could leak

WB's marketing machine had a carefully crafted plan that relied on dripping out information and screenshots and photos and trailers on their time. They never once considered that, you know, people would have smartphones at Comic-Con.
No.43401
Anonymous
Replies:>>43402
>>43400
Do they not realize all the damage that same marketing strategy has done for the Fantastic Four remake?
No.43402
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43401

No. No, they have not.
No.43403
Anonymous
Replies:>>43405
>>43400
>They never once considered that, you know, people would have smartphones at Comic-Con.
That's the thing: I'm sure they knew that people would have smartphones, but the people running the panel actually believed that asking attendees to not record the trailer they were about to show would stop a leak.
No.43405
Anonymous
>>43403
I'm sure in some cultural arrangements that would be enough.
No.43410
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43405

The problem is, this is America.
No.43413
Anonymous
>>43405
Geeks are geeks everywhere, even in Japan there are leaks.
No.43414
T4 was here
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Why does this remind me of the transformers movies...
No.43417
Jumpman
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>>43414
I can actually see the action, though.
No.43418
Anonymous
>>43417
Seriously, Snyder has plenty of faults, but he is no Bay in his depictions of action and fighting.
No.43420
Anonymous
Replies:>>43422
>>43414
>Skinny twig who's acting talent is questionable getting a starring role.

Its not that hard to get it.

>Supposedly trained for months, nothing to show for it.

Just overall I think she's nowhere near the best pick because one I cannot see her as an Amazon, some gal who got powers of one sure, but not straight up Wonder Woman. She's pretty but not that classical beauty that wonder woman has.

Maybe it'll look better in the movie. Though the whole "Saving Aquaman" B plot that she may have sounds kinda cumbersome.
No.43422
Anonymous
>>43420
At the least she's got the "Mediterranean" look someone who's supposed to be from Greek mythology like Wonder Woman should have. But it's true she completely lacks the physical presence you'd expect from such a character.
No.43424
Anonymous
Replies:>>43426
You know, while Gadot not being a huge WW isn't a dealbreaker for me, I must admit that it would have been nice if she at least had bulked up more for the part. I mean, if Cavill and Affleck did it, it is not unreasonable to expect her to do the same.
No.43426
Anonymous
>>43424
She's not primarily an actress she's a fashion model. And those gigs require them to be twiggy (because honestly fashion designs are shit at designing clothes for a woman with an actual figure)
No.43428
Anonymous
>>43426
Exactly.

I was hoping she would at least have a commanding presence or something for her to be convincing but... I'm rooting for her either way. But I'm getting my doubts.
No.43429
Anonymous
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Only time Barbie proportions have been right. Yea its a silly joke but Wonder Woman is supposed to be the pride of the Amazon people a Demigod possibly in the movie being Super Model Thin wonder woman is going to get attention. Also of the Trinity she's the shortest at '5 "10 and Both Cavill and Affleck are over six foot. It'll be interesting
No.43430
Anonymous
>>43426
>She's not primarily an actress she's a fashion model. And those gigs require them to be twiggy

Cool. So, why hire her to begin with?
No.43433
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>43434
>>43430

Dumbass "conventionally beautiful"-centric Hollywood Logic, I'd assume. If she's not a twig, she's not pretty!
No.43434
Anonymous
>>43433
Maybe, the short list was Gadot with Elodie Yung and Olga Kurylenko So two models and an Actress. And now the actress (Yung) will be in the second Season of Daredevil.
No.43435
Anonymous
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>>43430
Because the Adrienne Palicki/David E. Kelley pilot didn't go anywhere.
No.43436
Anonymous
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I'll stick to my theory that whoever is in charge of casting for BvS, that was having stomach cramps or something, and he yelled "just send a check to that gir>>43435
l from Fast & Furious 6" to an intern, and the intern simply fucked up. Hilarious shaneningans, I am telling you.
No.43437
Anonymous
>>43436
Damn shame, oh to be crushed between those thighs. Cripes it would be fun to watch her throw down in some Superhero Combat. And other DC gals she could play? Powergirl comes to mind.
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Useful.
No.43441
The Sneaky Tiki
>>43440
Higher body count than Godzilla.
No.43442
Anonymous
>>43440
Whole Justice League is setting up to feel more like the Justice Lords.
No.43460
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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No.43461
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>43393

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/14/8959615/suicide-squad-trailer-warner-leaked-trailer-reaction

>The reaction to the Suicide Squad footage was mostly positive; this was a great thing for Warner Bros. until they had to stomp in and make sure we knew they didn't approve of the way we were excited about their product and everyone needs to cut it out at once or they'll turn this movie right around and drive home. This was an amazing PR win for a film that was seen with much skepticism, if only Warner would have embraced it.
No.43470
Bunker
>>43461
Ahh glad to see Warner Bros keeping that bit alive. That bit of the Hollywood Critic getting pissed that people were actually enjoying Unbreakable and not chuckling mockingly at the "capshit"
No.43484
T4 was here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/judging-by-the-cover/10278-Suicide-Squad-Promo-Review
No.43502
Jumpman
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http://www.thewrap.com/chris-pine-closes-deal-to-star-opposite-gal-gadot-in-wonder-woman-exclusive/

Solid casting pick for Steve Trevor.

I hope that means Hal Jordan won't be used again as Green Lantern, because he's shit
No.43506
Anonymous
>>43502
Maybe too good of a pick, considering he's leagues above Gadot in terms of acting and will probably end up stealing the spotlight from her as a result.
No.43673
T4 was here
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*robot voice*HYPE TRAIN ONLINE!
No.43687
Anonymous
Replies:>>43689
>>43673
Atom Smasher Edge
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/16/wwe-superstar-adam-edge-copeland-to-play-atom-smasher-on-the-flash

And then Amell at SummerSlam.

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Though serious their ongoing fight is some of the best stuff since Attitude Era.
No.43689
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>43700
>>43687

Dat leap into the ring from Raw. I hope to God that Amell gets to do some fun shit at SummerSlam. (I'm also hoping he can talk the CW/Warner Bros. into letting him wear either the actual Arrow costume or a reasonable facsimile.)

Also: considering Cody Rhodes is a comic book fan and Amell is a lifelong WWE fan, how much do you think they’re geeking out over getting to work with each other?
No.43700
Anonymous
>>43689
Come sliding in on a Zip-line, "Stardust, you have failed this ring". About to make the pin then

//youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ycXfMF318youtube thumb

Bam Goldust comes in knocking Amell to the ground. What will happen, will The Golden Star beat Amell?
No.43708
Jumpman
>The project evokes NBC’s signature comedy series The Office, but with superheroes. Based on characters from DC Comics, Powerless is a workplace comedy set at one of the worst insurance companies in America — with the twist being that it also takes place in the universe of DC Comics. The show is about the reality of working life for a normal, powerless person in a world of superheroes and villains.

http://deadline.com/2015/08/dc-comics-powerless-comedy-series-nbc-1201499139/
No.43709
Anonymous
>>43708
Is it going to be canon to the movies, the TV shows, or its own canon? Because it sounds like exactly the kind of tone stuff the movies could use.
No.43710
Anonymous
Replies:>>43711
>>43708
Wasn't there a DC Comic ABOUT an insurance type company who's whole deal was fixing that stuff? Like, is it going to be based off of that or did someone coincidentally have an admittedly not too hard to think of idea?

...
Or was that Marvel?
No.43711
Anonymous
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>>43710
Marvel.
No.43722
Anonymous
>>43711
Thanks.
No.43723
Anonymous
>>43711
I want one of the One-Shots to be this.
No.43779
Anonymous
Replies:>>43780
As a whole I have immense love for the TV side of the DC Universe. They are just great people.

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Also can't wait for footage of Amell, word is he brought the pro and put on a good show.
No.43780
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>43779

Word is Amell did fine, all things considered.
No.43781
Anonymous
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>>43780
He was hesitant on some of the big moves, in part because that isn't his job and being laid up would be a bad thing. But still he came away exhausted with some bruises to tell the tale.
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Anonymous
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No.43784
Anonymous
>>43781
So, is he going to make a return appearence around the release of Bay-age Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 to do something with Seamus?
No.43785
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43783

Bit of a wonky dive there, but all things considered, better than I thought he’d do. Kinda makes me wonder just how good he’d do if he decided to make the jump into a full-bore wrestling career.
No.43786
Anonymous
Suicide Squad giving each other legit tats.

http://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/36130/20150822/suicide-squad-cast.htm

I really hope the film is fun.

http://batman-news.com/2015/08/24/henry-cavill-superman-suicide-squad/

Supes chatting it up with Bats in the movie?
No.43797
Anonymous
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/man-steel-2-permanent-hold-because-batman-v-superman-dawn-justice-rumor-469411

Hope it's just a rumor, could derail their whole setup.
No.43816
Anonymous
Now that Supergirl has been out for a while what do people think of it?
No.43818
T4 was here
>>43816
Have not watch it.
No.43823
Anonymous
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>>43816
Supergirl is cute, "James" having a long relationship with Supes helps level the whole "Super Alpha" nonsense. She seems to have a good roster of Enemies to go up against. Though in the end I still feel we'll see this show going to CW, CBS just doesn't have the base to support this kinda show.
No.43825
Anonymous
>>43823
Did they at least tone down the over-the-top "girly" elements from the trailer?
No.43826
Anonymous
>>43825
As of right now, no. The only thing out is the "leaked" pilot and that takes up about 2/3rds of the episode.
No.43828
Anonymous
Replies:>>43829
>>43825
I kinda hope it doesn't. Its not an espionage thriller like Black Widow would be since its what most people draw the comparison to.
Its supergirl! She's girly as heck, even her suit's basically a cheerleader outfit with the super colors.
No.43829
Anonymous
>>43828
At least get rid of the campier elements, unless the show is intentionally aiming for some comedy.
No.43830
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43829

>get rid of the campier elements

No. Please, God, no. I want some fucking camp in my superhero shows unless it's a show about a character that isn’t meant to be even remotely campy (e.g. Punisher). Now if there’s ’60s Batman levels of camp, yes, tone it down—but don’t drop it all out entirely.
No.43833
Anonymous
>>43829
Fuck that, Supergirl's campier than Superman.
No.43834
Anonymous
While a Supergirl show should be "girly" (I mean, it's in the name), it should not be 2/3 of the content. Again, it is in the name, she should be Super first, and then a girl. I certainly did not watch Smallville back in the day for the teenager school drama.
No.43848
Anonymous
Replies:>>43849
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/supergirl-red-tornado-iddo-goldberg-t-o-morrow-1201583347/
Red Tornado? That's one step towards getting a proper adaptation of Young Justice that wasn't in name only (Weisman's) or turned into something else (Teen Titans).
No.43849
Anonymous
>>43848
Bring in Wonder Girl and a few others and we've got a team.
No.43866
Anonymous
//youtube.com/watch?v=2q3l4fMVCO8youtube thumb

So that's where Constantine went.
No.43867
Anonymous
>>43866
Maybe him having a mini arc finding the entrance into Dr.Fates tower.
No.43868
Anonymous
Replies:>>43869
>>43866
Will he kiss a dude onscreen?
No.43869
Anonymous
>>43868
Possibly, they've already got Flash and their gay police Captain
No.43870
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
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>>43866
>D. Ramond Palmer
>(1981-2015)

So wait. Ray actually died? That explosion that happened during the "uplifting" ending of Season 3? Right before we watched Oliver and Flicity drive off into the sunset with smiles on their faces? That killed him? That's... unbelievably crappy. Why did they kill Ray? Ray was a good guy, he didn't deserve to die, especially in an accident. At least Sara's death drove the plot for half of Season 3.
No.43871
Anonymous
>>43870
He's one of the main characters in Legends of Tomorrow, so no. I think he just shrank and hasn't figured out how to reverse it yet.
No.43873
Anonymous
>>43871
Set it to Wumbo
No.43874
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
>>43871
Well that's a relief.
No.43887
Anonymous
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The Death of "Superman Lives"

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Before Man of Steel

Before Superman Returns

There might've been...this
No.43921
MESIAS
I never expected to feel so hyped about a live-action superheorics show in a while, but The Flash jut got me. I'm already half the show and I can't stop squeaking like a little girl.
No.43953
Jumpman
Replies:>>43957
http://www.pajiba.com/dc_movies/the-way-comics-fans-treat-zack-snyder-is-ridiculous-and-shortsighted.php

Man of Steel sucks, but Snyder's statement was anything but controversial.
No.43957
The Sneaky Tiki
>>43953
No, it was a pretty fucking stupid comment.
No.43958
Anonymous
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I want to see DC get into the game and be strong, but I really feel they are going too far in what Snyder thinks is the right direction and missing one of the big points that he already had kicked nearly to death and left on the side of the road in Man of Steel.

Staring up at DC heroes from the foot of Mt.Olympus

Might be why Marvel is working so well right now. Not because they are flavor of the week popcorn munching flicks (but that doesn't hurt) but because they are relatable. Sure they are heroes but they are also shown to be human, for the most part.

The stuff Cap did in Avengers rallying the cops to help is something Superman would also do if needed. It wouldn't even think about it since its just in his nature.
No.43959
Anonymous
So Amell has been chased off Social Media because he wanted to note "Hey not all Texans are racist assholes". But you should know better than to disagree with the SJW mass when they are on a tirade. Damn shame as Arrow was starting back soon and I liked his charity stuff.
No.43960
Anonymous
>>43959

That was a severely tonedeaf thing to tweet, and it doesn't sound like he got 'run off' so much as he realized he done goofed and decided to step back for a while.
No.43961
Jumpman
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-entertainment-give-classic-batman-824572

Bill Finger gets the credit he deserved for so long.
No.43962
Anonymous
>>43959
>So Amell has been chased off Social Media
oh no
>because he wanted to note "Hey not all Texans are racist assholes".
i suppose that's true, but its not like that adds to the dialo--
>you should know better than to disagree with the SJW mass
...


And its at that point when you realize there's probably more to it than the gross oversimplification at play here.
No.43963
Anonymous
Replies:>>43964
>>43961
>Bill Finger
Hur hur hur, you said Finger.
No.43964
Anonymous
>>43963
Damn, can't delete my own shitpost. Oh well.
No.44003
MESIAS
DAT FLASH FINALE
DAT REVERSE FLASH
DAT EVERYTHING
NOOOOOOO EDDIE :c
Holy shit, is was amazing!
And I really enjoyed Reverse Flash's downfall. Now I'm ready for season two. And you're next on the list, Starlight Glimmer.

>>43961
Finally!
No.44018
Anonymous
Replies:>>44019
http://collider.com/watchmen-tv-series-hbo-zack-snyder/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Snyder wants another shot at Watchmen.
No.44019
Anonymous
Replies:>>44021
>>44018
In hindsight, kinda hoped he had waited for TV series to get as much traction as they have. Its frankly the best format for such a layered story.

I didn't dislike the movie, but I imagine a series would be better paced.
No.44021
rasputin_zero
>>44019
Agreed. The comic itself was very episodic, with each of the characters getting their own dedicated issue. Jamming them all in the same movie might have worked if the movie hadn't been so literal with the source material, but adapting the comic to movie pacing would have strayed much too far from the source material for fans' tastes.
No.44022
Anonymous
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/10/01/will-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-be-the-most-sophisticated-superhero-film-yet-3571094

I really hope it comes off well. Film is pretty full with Doomsday Zod being in it don't know if it will have the space for slow introspective moments and be able to maintain a pace.
No.44023
T4 was here
>>44022
Just sounds pretentious too me.
No.44024
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44022

Gotta agree with T4, this shit sounds ridiculous.
No.44025
Anonymous
Replies:>>44031
>>44022
Haha no. Zach Snyder is already directing it. It's too late, the movie's doomed to be mediocre at best.
No.44030
Anonymous
They really should have taken it slow. By the time they would have gotten to Justice League with a good world build then MCU would be in a lul after Infinity War and doing just smaller scale films while Star Wars would take the main load of Disney attention for a while.

But setting this one up to be a Billion Dollar success and then looking for JL to break the 2B number. Too much too fast and using Batman as a crutch which overall just makes me kinda sad.
No.44031
Anonymous
Replies:>>44032
>>44025
My hope is that Affleck will ghost-direct the "talking heads" parts of the movie, and leave the action parts to Snyder.
No.44032
Anonymous
>>44031
Maybe that was the talk about the Batman pieces, letting him get the hang on it now before his trilogy.
No.44035
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
Just got around to watching Man of Steel. What a complete turd.
No.44043
Anonymous
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So his dad is possible Golden Age Lex. Also Kord and Wayne name drops. But the Kord stuff was already in the mix back in the television stuff IIRC either Central or Star city skyline showing a Kord building.
No.44077
Jumpman
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This is neat. Pee-wee is reprising his role as the Penguin's father in Gotham.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=125830
No.44087
T4 was here
Replies:>>44138
New Flash and Arrow is already air on swedish tv.
Love it when that happens even if Arrow is to late for my sleep schedule.
But whatever, I get better picture quality on Hulu anyway.
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T4 was here
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>>44087
And with Hulu fucked I guess TV will have to do.
Also this was fun.
No.44142
T4 was here
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Looking pimp Mister J.
Guess it fits with Harly looking like a whore most of the time now days...

Its not like skintight is like wearing nothing at all and there for sexier...
Eh, whatever.
No.44143
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44142

…meh.
No.44149
Anonymous
>>44142
Looks like he came from a Patrick Nagel pic.
No.44217
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.themarysue.com/time-warner-dc-noooo/

Warner Bros., what in the actual fuck are you doing.
No.44218
T4 was here
Replies:>>44226
>>44217
>http://www.themarysue.com/time-warner-dc-noooo/
Oh for fuck sake!

It like they want Marvel to win.
No.44226
Anonymous
>>44217
>>44218

>Netflix has grown too strong we must punish them
>blows their own face off.
No.44227
The Sneaky Tiki
DC r smrt
No.44228
Anonymous
Well they really don't give a shit about Television, if BvS makes a solid Billion then Television will die because Movies matter more those are the big ticket for the Studio.
No.44229
The Sneaky Tiki
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I was not originally sold on making Zoom a physically intimidating, inhuman character who is frequently described as "not even resembling a human."

But when you see him one hand hefting Barry 2 feet off the ground it's REALLY COOL.
No.44230
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44229

Zoom looks like what would happen if Flash melted the goddamn Terror Mask into his cowl, holy shit I love it.
No.44232
Anonymous
>>44229
Changing the channel after the Flash to watch SHIELD consistently ends in disappointment.

Like even if they pull the most obvious twist reveals with Zoom's identity, it will still be more compelling (and probably better acted) than the Lash reveal.
No.44233
Anonymous
>>44232
There is an idea that Zoom is Black Flash combined with Barry's Father
No.44234
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>44238
>>44232
You are betting on the wrong pony harder than Ellen Page bet on David Cage against The Last of Us.
No.44238
Anonymous
>>44234
Don't know what exactly you mean here. Scheduling wise, SHIELD is on after Flash. And it is rarely ever close to as enjoyable.
No.44311
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>44313
HOLY SHIT THEY MANAGED TO MAKE THE HAWKS RAD
No.44312
Anonymous
Will Kara get that red ring?
No.44313
Anonymous
Replies:>>44314
>>44311
It's happened before.

What ultimately destroys the Hawks in the end, usually, is overly committing to making the Thanagarian ones also the reincarnatey ones. Also, a tendency to write Hawkman as a reactionary conservative dickbag.
No.44314
Anonymous
>>44313
Means he'll butt heads with Ollie if things go down that path.
No.44316
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
Replies:>>44321
Holy shit Batman v Superman looks like complete ass.
No.44320
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Yeah, that new BvS trailer isn’t inspiring any hope that the movie’s going to be good. They give away everything about the plot and show off the “third act villain” of the film just so people will know what the movie’s going to show off in terms of the “DC Cinematic Universe”. And even if they hadn’t spoiled everything, the film still comes off as garbage, though maybe that’s the fault of a shitty trailer.

Man of Steel was a disappointment, but at least I was interested in it beforehand. I don’t even want to know how BvS turns out.
No.44321
Anonymous
Replies:>>44322
>>44316
Gotta love that Snyder.

Too damn dark again Affleck looks grubby. Damn I feel bad for whoever spent the time assembling the wardrobe that picked colors.

Sup Frankendoomzod. Still don't know why they felt the need to bring that one out this early. Bizzaro would have been fine as it would have showcased that Wondy is just as strong as Supes.
No.44322
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44321

I think the point of that reveal was to send a message: “Yeah, you’re gonna get an Act Three Brawl between Doomsday and the DC Trinity—plus the first movie with the DC Trinity in it—so buy your tickets now.” And let’s be fair, a lot of tickets are gonna be sold for this movie in the opening weekend regardless of the film’s quality, so prepping people for the idea of Doomsday vs. The Trinity was, from a marketing standpoint, a shrewd maneuver.
No.44323
Anonymous
>>44322
Though it leaves nothing on the plate for Superman later. Though going by the schedule and his films being removed from the table. Supes may not have the chance to tackle any more of his heavy hitters.

Also so much for it being Metallo or something.
No.44324
Anonymous
I really, really, REALLY hope that there is more to this new Luthor than just manic quirkiness, or else he's going to be the worst part of the movie.

Also, awesome how that old leak (the one that put the film's climax as a battle of the big three Vs Doomsday) that basically everybody said had to be bullshit, now proves right.
No.44325
Anonymous
Replies:>>44326
I guess the thing with Doomsday is that the movie can really let the heroes go medieval on him, doubly so since he is zombie Zod and there is no question of him being alive.
No.44326
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44325

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, unless you wanted to see Lex Luthor in a stupid fucking armored suit like Batman wears in this movie, which, hey, sorry the movie disappointed you already.

We all knew the movie was going to end with Bats and Supes putting whatever differences they have aside and working together against a common foe—how else would Justice League even be a thing otherwise?—and Darkseid was never going to be the “final boss” of this particular film, so Doomsday was the only logical villain for the Third Act Brawl. That he’ll canonically be a Zod-bie is a good way of giving him a proper DCCU origin that doesn't waste any other villain (including Luthor) on what will likely be Doomsday’s only appearance in the DCCU.
No.44327
Anonymous
BvS did not interest me at all until this trailer.

Now I can't wait to see it just for Max Landis brand Luthor stinking up the tryhard grimdark tone.
No.44328
Anonymous
>>44322
It sends the message that the DCCU can't deliver in terms of content so it's trying to make up for it in terms of sheer spectacle. Not the most inspiring feeling.
No.44329
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44328

On the other hand, the tone is different from the MCU (“grimdark” vs “down-to-earth with a bit of camp and snark”), so people who want that from superhero movies will have the DCCU. Doesn’t mean the DCCU will be better or worse than the MCU, just different. (Though if Batman v Superman: Actual Film Title is as “controversial” in terms of quality as its DCCU predecessor…)
No.44332
Anonymous
>>44328
That's how I felt. At first it seemed there might be some intrigue and conflict between characters, but by the end of the trailer you have "watch Batman™ and Superman™ team up with Wonder Woman™ to defeat the evil Doomsday™."
No.44347
Anonymous
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/09/is-ben-affleck-overdoing-it-with-botox

Hope Benny can keep his face together and doesn't end up looking like Clayface. Though that would work as a film arc and another "real" Batman takes him down.
No.44491
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
MovieBob made a good point on Twitter:

>DC Cinematic Universe is weird because so far it's primary influences are ALL "alt-universe" books that mostly trash the characters legacies
No.44493
Anonymous
More talk sounds like its doing the whole Dark Knight mashup stuffing all of that in where they can find a spot to stuff it.

Maybe Cram some Bizzaro in as well.

Movie may be trying so hard to be serious that it comes off as unintentionally funny. Just like Rises.
No.44568
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.thewrap.com/suicide-squad-trailer-to-debut-during-batman-v-superman-special-on-cw/
No.44731
Anonymous
Snyder put up a teaser they are playing during the football games

https://twitter.com/zacksnyder/status/685934186805374976

That whole bit seems rather strange. Batman wrecks his car and then threatens Superman and Supes just looks on confused. Also I cannot tell if its just my headphones but it sounds like they are altering Batman voice. I think I remember reading that this Batman uses a voice changer. Just asking if anyone else hears it.
No.44737
Anonymous
Replies:>>44769
//youtube.com/watch?v=DMoNUB0O5o4youtube thumb

That drawl and then the clown. Eh whatever.
No.44764
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>44766
It strikes me as weirdly low budget, or more accurately shot without any idea of how to shoot dialogue in order to make it interesting.

I will say this much, has Snyder ever released a trailer that was dialogue driven before?
No.44766
Anonymous
>>44764

Going through my head I'd think Watchmen maybe but none of the trailers really hooked on a conversation really all just action shots with a voice over. Maybe one with Rorschach and Nite Owl.

Film looks very washed out and dark. The shot with Batman on the car, the fire barely does anything to light him and it almost looks like a pair of eyes just floating in blackness.

People already using "Don't believe everything you hear, son." as if its some bad ass line. I just don't see it. Same with him in the car. Something just seems off.
No.44769
Anonymous
Replies:>>44771
>>44737
I have a feeling I'm really going to hate Lex, and not in the good but the bad kind.
No.44771
Anonymous
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>>44769
People are defending "well he's only that way in public, you'll see him in private and he'll totally be a crafty mastermind." But we've seen him in private "Red Capes are Coming." and its the exact same shtick. Hell even in his lab he's wearing some translucent lab coat it looks like he stole from the Willy Wonka set.

I really wonder who thought some of these choices were a good idea.

Lex doesn't feel any bit sinister like he can become an actual threat to Batman or Superman. Likely because he won't be around after this film since we'll then be graduating to Darkseid. Still though it feels like they devalued the threat level of Lex a whole lot in this film. Which I guess makes sense because that is supposed to be Batman for most the film and then a "GOTCHA" from the Zodaroomsday or whatever he turns into until his "final form" of Doomsday.
No.44822
Anonymous
Replies:>>44841
Conan clip being a more complete "Do you bleed" scene.

https://youtu.be/AgQrxGV7Brk
No.44823
Anonymous
Replies:>>44843
//youtube.com/watch?v=AgQrxGV7Brkyoutube thumb

RoboBat vs Overdub man.

Actually makes it seem a little less impressive than before. Superman ripping into the crashed Batmobile making a threat which while based on Batman being a lawless vigilante and Supes approving doesn't look as good as Batman just making threats and Superman flying off.
No.44841
Anonymous
Replies:>>44842
>>44822
What's with Bat's voice? Is he speaking into a vocoder in his collar or something?
No.44842
Anonymous
>>44841
Yea he's using a voice changer. That's going to be silly if they keep it up all the way through.
No.44843
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>44844
>>44823

Really not filling me with confidence here. Even X-Men: Apocalypse appeals to me more than this, and I don’t give half a fuck about X-films.
No.44844
Anonymous
>>44843
Yeah I don't expect it to be terrible but neither the story or the characters seem like they're going to be very interesting. At least with the X-Men and Marvel films previous entries have given me a basis to care about what happens to them. Man of Steel was just... meh.
No.44846
Anonymous
Replies:>>44847
//youtube.com/watch?v=F90nxOlsm1syoutube thumb

I still don't get how it could go so sideways. This did it pretty well. Still drives the point that Superman doesn't approve of Batman's vigilantism but its no where near as creepy and insane.

I just to don't the feeling I get from watching those trailers. Their whole world feels angry. And I really don't want to go to a movie to feel angry. Maybe its just me.
No.44847
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>44846

>Their whole world feels angry. And I really don't want to go to a movie to feel angry.

It ain’t just you, anon. Everything about this film so far feels like it’s ripped from the Grimdark ’90s era of comics. None of it feels right.
No.44848
Anonymous
>>44847
Probably because it kind of is. The Dark Knight Returns was partly responsible for all of that.
No.44850
Anonymous
>>44847
>Everything about this film so far feels like it’s ripped from the Grimdark ’90s era of comics.

But Superman largely remained Noblebright through the 90s. Even him DYING was a story about his noble brightness inspiring people in memorium.
No.44852
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>44854
>>44850

Nobody in Hollywood seems to get Superman, so no shit they managed to fuck him up.
No.44854
Anonymous
>>44852
//youtube.com/watch?v=BIaF0QKtY0cyoutube thumb

they did once.

Here we see City Clark trying to just be Clark and tell the truth, and he chickens out.

At his core he's Clark Kent and wants to do good. I feel they miss that a bit.
No.44856
Anonymous
>>44850
The main comics kept him a noble hero, but Elseworlds loved tearing him a new one.
No.44862
Anonymous
>>44856
Not him, but examples?

The Elseworlds I've read always have Superman as a moral anchor even in the worst case scenarios. Dark Knight Returns portrayed him as noble if entirely misguided, and hell, even a bullshit tryhard story like At Earth's End has Superman as the only somewhat good person around.
No.44863
Anonymous
>>44856
Which works for a one off or a universe that challenges the main one. Its like a Justice Lords Offshoot. Superman is a bit less caring in fault to his paranoid foster father keeping his distance. Batman has some form of PTSD from Jason's death (who for some reason was still wearing the scale briefs with an armored up torso) and is quite unhinged more than usual. Wondering how they'll thematically darken the rest of the crew when they show up.
No.44892
Jumpman
Replies:>>44895
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https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/688784178129731584
No.44895
Anonymous
>>44892
Has it had a trailer yet?
No.44897
Anonymous
So Gotham still being a mess outside of a penguin tale? Renee shown back up or has she just been dismissed since Barbara went all psycho. Just wondering if I should bother watching it on Netflix when season 2 goes up,
No.44898
Tiki
>>44897
You should not only give up, you should try and find a way to wipe it from your mind.
No.44899
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
>>44897

I watched most of the first season recently, I only had a few more episodes to go so I should probably finish it just to say I finished it but...fuck. It's really bad.
No.44927
Tiki
WOW, Ball FUCKING DROPPED on Wally West, holy shit.
No.44930
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>44932
Here's the Suicide Squad trailer:

//youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAsyoutube thumb
No.44932
Anonymous
>>44930


Its something I guess. Hope it didn't give too much away. Though I feel it kinda did.
No.44934
TeethandHunger
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The main man is coming.
No.44935
Anonymous
>>44934
Neat, wonder if it'll be a comic arc or something new.
No.44939
Alpharius
Replies:>>44940
>>44934
LOBO!
FUCK YEAR!
MACHETE as Lobo sounds perfect, but I'm kinda doubtful that Lobo can properly done in the modern DC movie-verse. I'm just glad to see the raunchy bastard again. But then again Suicide Squad looks fun, so hopefully my fears are unfounded and the DC movei-verse can know when to 'lighten up'.
No.44940
Anonymous
>>44939
> I'm kinda doubtful that Lobo can properly done in the modern DC movie-verse.

If anyone belongs in the Snyderverse, it's Lobo.
No.44941
Tiki
Replies:>>44943
Good Idea: Re-introduce Wally West as African American to distinguish him from Barry.

Bad Idea: He's a troubled black teen that needs the stern white hand of the law to set him straight.
No.44942
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>44944
>What kind of absurd world do we live in where it’s the villains that look like they’re having all the fun, and the superheroes just have to solemnly glower slightly off-screen, trapped in their dark, colorless dystopia? The bizarre world of DC movie marketing apparently, where our heroes are far too busy looking glum all the time to stand up to the comics they represent.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-suicide-squad-poster-shows-us-everything-wrong-wit-1753859683
No.44943
Anonymous
>>44941
Just in keeping with what they did in the comics. Also, keeping things racially consistent with the other TV Wests.

What really hurt them was HAVING BARRY DATE WALLY'S WIFE.
No.44944
Anonymous
>>44942
Yes, this. Suicide Squad has all my attention and looks like it will be ten times more fun than Batman V Superman.
No.44969
Anonymous
Replies:>>44983
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Huh. I kind of prefer her animated look, but I am still looking forward to Vixen on Arrow.
No.44983
F-ing
>>44969
>long hair

RUINED
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No.44992
Anonymous
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So Tumblr is going on about how Jared Leto raped a bunch of children in real life and that the media's been hiding it and are claiming it's not a joke, and I can't tell if this is all part of the meme going an extra level or what anymore.
No.44999
Anonymous
>>44992
They may have gone a bit too far with the "he's so crazy in this film they may have to lock him up after it comes out."Line of promotion.
No.45000
Tiki
Replies:>>45001
>>44992
I dunno about that, but as I recall he has a very serious history of sexual battery against women.
No.45001
Anonymous
Replies:>>45002
>>45000
>>44992

From what I recall, those allegations were done by groupies in a gossip blog that doesn't exist anymore, and the worst account was one girl who said that she "felt raped" because Leto was very rough. Some would say this is another Cosby affair, but IMO anonymous internet posting is several levels below in credibility than those women that actually stepped in the spotlight to accuse Bill Cosby.
No.45002
Tiki
Replies:>>45005
>>45001
Either way it'd be a dumb reason to boycott the movie, it's terrible looking enough on it's own, no one needs to come up with new reasons not to go see it.
No.45005
Anonymous
Replies:>>45010
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>>45002
> it's terrible looking enough on it's own
No.45008
Anonymous
>>44992
Not children, according to the rumors it was teenage groupies. Big difference there, and Tumblr is probably just wording it that way to spin it in the worst light possible. Not that it would ever mean it was OK if any of it was true, since they're still underaged. But there's a wide gulf between shitty creep who's willing to take advantage of his groupies and treats them like garbage, and guy who would be the star of a Chris Hansen special if The Man wasn't covering up for him, like Tumblr's trying to make him out to be.
No.45009
Anonymous
>>44992
All I've seen on Tumblr about Jared Leto is that he's a hot topic scene kid who thinks he's edgy because he changed the wallpaper on someone's phone and is convinced they're going to "lock him away" because he played a cartoon character in a PG-13 movie.
No.45010
Tiki
>>45005
Obviously? If I said it it can only be my opinion.

Tell me you disagree, don't crutch on a tired meme.
No.45011
Anonymous
Replies:>>45013
I wanna like this movie, and the trailers make it seem like it'll be a lot more fun than BvS at least. But it seems like they're going too hard with the edge to the point that it seems comical, and not even in a self-aware way.
No.45013
Anonymous
Replies:>>45016
>>45011
Yea you don't need Deadpool or for DC equivalent Ambush Bug to Lampshade the moment. These guys have been doing this shit for years. Be easy enough for them to riff off each others pasts.
No.45016
Anonymous
Replies:>>45017
>>45013
Well, the movies DOES have DC's current equivalent to Deadpool on it.
No.45017
Anonymous
>>45016
Oh yea, forgot that is how they were pushing Harley now. Something akin to old '90s Pool but more murder prone.
No.45027
Anonymous
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New poster for BvS. Thoughts?
No.45028
Anonymous
>>45027
Still going to be bad
No.45029
Tiki
>>45027
I saw Deviant Art edits in 2006 of Brandon Routh and Christian Bale of the exact same quality.
No.45030
Anonymous
Replies:>>45031
So how quickly will this much hyped fight be over or interrupted by outside forces? I give it three minutes.
No.45031
Tiki
Replies:>>45032
>>45030
The opposite, Synder doesn't know how to pace fights, remember Sucker Punch and Man of Steel? The question should be how boring will the fight be and how drug out.
No.45032
Anonymous
>>45031
That's the thing, the Batman Vs Superman fight (which is why people are coming to see the movie) most likely will end real quick, and then cut to a half hour fight against Doomsday.
No.45033
Anonymous
Replies:>>45034
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/wonder-woman-is-a-5000-year-old-retired-superhero-when-batman-a130408

So 5,000 year old Amazon Immortal. Think there will be others or will she be the only Amazon in this film universe.

Still the whole "where was she when earth was being devoured by machines from space, in retirement." Seems kinda lame. Just have her fighting a Kraken or something in the Bermuda Triangle which sounds more awesome than just "she'd retired"
No.45034
Anonymous
>>45033
Even if she stopped caring for humanity, the whole retirement excuse doesn't make any sense. Zod and his cronies weren't just annihilating us, they were killing the entirety of earth's biosphere to remake Krypton, so her inaction would mean she didn't give a hoot about the planet. You know, the one planet where she is living.
No.45035
Anonymous
Replies:>>45037
You know, thinking about it, Bruce should also be pretty pissed off at Diana, not just at Clark. If she had appeared at least during Clark's fight with Zod, a LOT less people would have died. I seriously hope that if the point shows up in the movie (which I doubt, ten bucks says it will be swept under the rug), the explanation will be better than "LOL sry, k? I jus dint care".

If I was Snyder, I'd show that Diana did get to Metropolis, but seeing that Clark was doing fine, instead of fighting she focused on saving civilians.
No.45036
Anonymous
That would have made sense and the movie would probably be a bit more watchable.
No.45037
Anonymous
>>45035
It also makes Wonder Woman a known entity at least a hundred years ago if not for hundreds upon thousands of years. Wonder if Lois ever tried to find her.

If she worked under the guise of a EMT or Police to rescue people yea that would work. Hell that could even be her job in retirement. She doesn't directly fight the big ones anymore but she does help or arrest the small ones.
No.45038
T4 was here
Replies:>>45039
Maybe her wi-fi was down the day of the attack.
Boy, her most have been red when she got the newspaper the day after.
No.45039
Anonymous
>>45038
Long night at whatever she works as a retirement job this century. Sees the reports afternoon news. Picks up her phone and taps in a new reminder "Pick up new Alarm Clock w/Radio" Walks off the the bathroom grumbling "Why can't they ever start these invasions in the afternoon."
No.45040
T4 was here
Replies:>>45041
Or by "Retired" they mean became a hermit living on an island somewhere.
Its easy to miss stuff when you dont give a shit.

Anyway, hope they dont make any lame "amazon=lesbo" joke...
Now a "my mom hates me for being staight" subversion joke on the other~
No.45041
Anonymous
Replies:>>45042
>>45040
If she didn't just pop down to the planet from 5,000 years ago because she's actually also from Krypton, really hope not.
No.45042
T4 was here
Replies:>>45043
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>>45041
Fuck that noise, we all know what the best origin for her is.
And being the last magical being in the world would be a good an angle.
Especially if she trys to be hip with the kids.
No.45043
Anonymous
>>45042

>she trys to be hip with the kids.

So everyone living.

I kid but I know we won't be getting anything like this.

//youtube.com/watch?v=hQG6w0OfoHIyoutube thumb

Makes me sad as it would have also been easy to write in.

Diana making her way into the world after she finds some sod locked up on the island from another shipwreck. Her mother put them there after his ravings of monsters from other planets eating the earth.

Diana making her way to the mainland to find this "Superman" who fought said monsters.
No.45057
Anonymous
That Legends of Tomorrow Ending. Didn't expect that to happen so soon.
No.45075
Anonymous
http://www.newsarama.com/27836-zack-snyder-if-you-re-a-comic-book-fan-you-know-i-didn-t-change-superman.html
Really, Snyder? Really?
No.45079
Anonymous
>>45075
>>true canon
ffs you arrogant prick...
No.45082
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45075

Jesus tapdancing Christ.
No.45083
Anonymous
>>45075
He honestly sounds like he has no clue as to what he's talking about. Like he's just flinging it out there and hope nobody calls him on it.
No.45084
Anonymous
>>45075
Shit like this is exactly why I'm not looking forward to BvS.
No.45085
Anonymous
Replies:>>45086
Can actors work past poor directors and make a good film?
No.45086
Anonymous
>>45085
Depends on the script. I mean look at the Star Wars prequels, they have some legit good scenes but as a whole the suck outweighs the good.
No.45087
Anonymous
Which is what concerns me going into this. Snyder is missing a few things as a director to really pull it all together.

I mean I want this to be at least moderately successful and not end up a joke like Rises did. Because I don't think DC could survive Warner Bros burning down the house again like they did with Green Lantern and after Man of Steel with all of Superman films being shelved.
No.45088
Anonymous
>>45087
Was Rises really considered that much of a joke? Most of the mockery is from forced memes and the like, it seems to be considered weaker than the previous two but still a solid movie on its own.
No.45089
Anonymous
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No.45090
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45088
Dark Knight Rises was a decent movie. But when its immediate predecessor is one of the best superhero/comic book films ever made, “decent” looks like a drastic downturn in quality.

>>45087
WB has too much invested in the DCCU to cancel everything outright. But I’d wager that even though it’d cut back its plans if BvS bombs (BvS won’t bomb once the international box office take rolls in), WB will likely go ahead with the DCCU regardless.
No.45091
Anonymous
Replies:>>45092
>>45088
It may not have been but that is how Warner Bros took it even putting out releases talking about shelving Batman for a while to try something new, which is why Man of Steel was planned to be the start of Superman movies. But when that floundered due to mainly it feeling very un Superman according to many critics and Reviews they flipped back to pushing their "sure thing" in Batman.

Keep in mind I'm not saying it all bombed they just want to be bringing in the Marvel Bucks and attention but keep missing the mark.
No.45092
Anonymous
>>45091
If WB wants the DCCU to have any chance at getting those Marvel Studios bucks they have to develop a strong foundation on their own terms instead of variously ripping them off/trying to be their antithesis in all the wrong ways. They're trying to be too ambitious too soon and it's only going to hurt them.
No.45093
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
Replies:>>45094
>>45088

It wasn't a Man of Steel level debacle, but it wasn't great either. Tom Hardy's Bane remains an absolutely baffling choice.
No.45094
Anonymous
Replies:>>45096
>>45093
At the same time he's also the most memorable part of the film, and nobody seems to hate him, so maybe it's better that way.
No.45095
Anonymous
Supergirl and Flash are crossing over. We're coming closer to a larger DC TV universe/ multiverse.
No.45096
DudeWithMoney !SFwR6DnH/Y
Replies:>>45097
>>45094

I don't hate him except for that voice. Made it impossible to take him seriously.
No.45097
Anonymous
>>45096
Yea sounding like the Sean Connery impersonator on SNL does not lean to being a powerful villain. Been better just to be silent. Dramatic severe gestures to guide his terrorist army.

Have him say a couple of lines like the "born from it" but not in that nasal tone. He could have been pretty menacing.
No.45136
Anonymous
Replies:>>45137
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But will they race?
No.45137
Anonymous
>>45136

For Charity.
No.45138
Anonymous
http://dccomicsmovie.com/wonder-woman-is-casting-amazons-in-matera-italy/

So good news is they will have Amazons. Bad news all skinny super model types like Gadot.
No.45139
Anonymous
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>>45138
No.45140
Anonymous
Replies:>>45141
>>45138
>no fit girls
Fucking bullshit.
No.45141
Anonymous
Replies:>>45142
>>45140
I swear they are setting up the Amazons to be some kinda alien race that crashed on earth.
No.45142
Anonymous
>>45141
You know, Goyer wrote a MOS prequel comic dealing with Krypton's early attempts at space colonization, which due plot reasons ended with Kara (yes, that Kara) crash landing on earth and being the sole survivor like, 100 thousand years ago.

My very first thought after reading that comic was "holy shit, please please please let not this be the origin of the Amazons in the movieverse".
No.45143
Anonymous
Replies:>>45161
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That is what I keep thinking looking at the sword I know most of that is supposed to be Greek but those symbols at the bottom. Watch the "Gods" just be Krypton Colonists and those like Diana are just half breeds.

//youtube.com/watch?v=Cle_rKBpZ28youtube thumb

And the Final Trailer. I really hope the final product isn't this dark. Nearly impossible to see what is going on in the Batman scenes or anything else not lit properly. So most the trailer.
No.45161
T4 was here
>>45143
Ooh that would be soo bullshit~
Bet it will happen knowing theis hacks.
No.45193
Tiki
Apparently Warner Bros. is worried since even early internal screenings have not been well received to say the least.

It's bad enough that WB is holding off on the entire franchise until they see if this flops or succeeds.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/61058/batman-v-superman-is-warner-preparing-for-a-super-sized-flop
No.45196
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45193
Assuming I choose to believe this…

>set a schedule for an entire cinematic universe with shitloads of films announced for the next few years
>get pissed off at one of the first movies to set up that universe…spending a lot of time setting up that universe

…I’m not sure whether to laugh or feel bad about how we’ll never get another great live-action Superman movie.
No.45197
Anonymous
So thoughts if these internals are true. Why are people not enthused for this film?
No.45198
Anonymous
Replies:>>45207
>>45193
Oh geez. Meanwhile the screenings for Civil War are as positive as The Winter Soldier's was, and they're confident enough in it that the actors themselves are openly willing to vouch for it, in contrast to Miles Teller's reaction to Fant4stic.
No.45199
Anonymous
Replies:>>45207
>>45193
>Justice League is going to get moved back
Yes, that should've been obvious from the getgo.
>and that Ben Affleck Batman movie, that's what's going to end up in that spot
No. No. NOOOOO. You fucking idiots. Take lessons from Deadpool. Focus on doing interesting stuff for fuck's sake. Not leaning on Batman for the umpteenth time and crashing and burning with your obsession with trying to one-up Marvel.
No.45200
Anonymous
>>45193
>According to those who have seen Dawn of Justice, the two standouts of the film are Affleck as Batman and Jesse Eisenberg, who is "great" as Lex Luthor, McWeeny says.

I'm not surprised at all. They seem like the best part of it by far.
No.45201
Anonymous
>>45200
Really? All the Luthor bits made me cringe, although if the movie's going to be as grimdark as it seems, at least he'll be memorable for injecting a little levity into it.
No.45202
Anonymous
Replies:>>45204
>>45200
Though Lex for the wrong reasons of being "great" as they put it. Already pushing that "Mmmmm Boys" bit.
No.45204
Anonymous
Replies:>>45205
>>45202
That's honestly why I love it. Going by the trailers if there is absolutely nothing else to break the grim tone, I appreciate it being done to the extreme.
No.45205
Anonymous
>>45204
His Willy Wonka esque glee.

People will come out going "wait is Lex gay for Superman?" And the answer to that is yes if we go all the way with the comics and he makes a hybrid clone love child.

Snyder and his ass backward method of casting will result in this being a great film for all the wrong reasons. And my not result in the hype or blockbuster potential they had hoped for.
No.45206
Anonymous
I really wish Superman felt a bit brighter as a characterization. I mean as far as this film is concerned he's right Batman has gotten more brutal and shit has gone too far.

Kinda sad Batman comes off as more of a Spaz in the trailers. Gaming it up rolling about hitting people warehouse (which I've not seen people set to QTE yet but I expect it)

I mean the fight scene is okay aside from that again crappy "Oh wait lemme dance with my gun in the background since I'm not supposed to actually be shooting at him."

Everyone gets a gun to make the scene look intimidating and then half of them forget they have one or just dance around while those in focus get disarmed or attack him with Melee weapons.

And then him crashing his car into Superman (still can't tell if Supes kicked it or it just bounced off him) and then spouting out that meek Threat which really seems kinda childish in that situation.

I really wonder how people that are going for Batman will take to a version that is utterly unhinged.
No.45207
Tiki
Replies:>>45210
>>45199
milk that battit even if you are only getting blood at this point.

>>45198
The cracks in the WBs faith are really apparent by comparison.

Dan Didio's "boasts" of DC movies not having a universe director seem so especially idiotic now. Even more so in light of the fact DC movies come off as more of a murky uniformity.
No.45210
Anonymous
Replies:>>45211
>>45207
Fact that outside of convention and press confrences that RDJ Evans and others enjoy the heck out of their roles. Contrast the only people that seem to light up outside of the television DC shows is Cavill and he doesn't seem to get as much a chance to really get into it.
No.45211
Tiki
>>45210
Cavill actually nails Superman...they just won't let him, but the behind the scenes with him smiling in the suit and you just think "THAT'S Superman."
No.45213
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45211

Dude is perfect for the role. It’s just too bad the movies don't want him to actually be Superman.
No.45214
Anonymous
>>45211
>>45213

Exactly without Snyder and his terrible camera filters he looks the spitting image of Supes and he's getting to show Clark has that fire as well. But again its going to be sidelined since this is a Batman film.
No.45224
Anonymous
Replies:>>45226
>>45211
>>45213
He was more Superman in Man from UNCLE than Man of Steel, interestingly enough.
No.45226
Tiki
>>45224
This is an incredibly accurate statement, made all the sadder by UNCLE's sluggish performance.
No.45238
Tiki
Replies:>>45239
two hours and 31 minutes for Batman v Superman.

Fuck. That.
No.45239
Anonymous
Replies:>>45242
>>45238
I think more superhero movies could afford to be longer in general, but that length would only hurt a movie like this where it seems like their only selling point is the big name heroes facing off against each other. In the case that it sucks (and it probably will) I hope the length doesn't get seen as a reason why it did well and cause other studios to drastically shorten their other movies, when it's clear its failure would have more to do with overall lack of quality than the length.
No.45242
Tiki
>>45239
Considering man of steel had a full hour and a half of punching that run time and early screening rumors don't bode well.
No.45246
Anonymous
https://variety.com/2016/film/news/batman-v-superman-run-time-1201711809/

Cripes. That is a long haul. Needs to have a couple of intermissions.
No.45248
Anonymous
Replies:>>45249
>>45243
Oh my god just let this man be Superman. He's SO OBVIOUSLY well cast, stop bogging him down with realistic artsy "what if god lived on earth" navel gazing rubbish.
No.45249
Anonymous
>>45248
"What if god lived on earth" is the only thing keeping Superman from being boring though.
No.45250
Anonymous
>>45249
Care to elaborate? That wasn't the most appropriate phrase - but I do mean the fact that MoS is more about a godlike alien coming to Earth than it is an actual Superhero story.
No.45251
Tiki
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>>45249
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Superman is the most interesting character in DC's stable, especially presently.

Think about it, real Superman is just a really nice reporter WITH A LOT OF POWER and what does he use it for? To be nice, even to bad people and misunderstood creatures.
No.45252
Anonymous
Replies:>>45254
>>45249
The darling of the MCU (other than Loki) is Chris Evans as Captain America, and he's practically playing Golden Age power level Superman at this point.
No.45254
Anonymous
Replies:>>45272
>>45252
I thought the MCU's darling was Tony Stark.
No.45255
Anonymous
Replies:>>45257
>>45251
That doesn't mean it still can't be "what if God lived on Earth." The fact that he's overpowered means no tense situations and he's usually kept as a boy scout. That's fine if you're doing a cartoon like the DCAU or playing it up as a comedy like in Batman: BatB, but if I ever wanted to take Supes seriously like I sometimes do Batman, that element is needed.

I hated MoS but I like the aspect of Superman's story that's about him learning to live among humans with his enormous power, and how he can be more than just a superhero that saves the world from evil ever so often.
No.45257
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
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>>45255

Here, read this and see if it doesn’t change your mind about the Man of Steel: http://mightygodking.com/2011/02/23/a-superman-post/
No.45258
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45257

Also this post: http://mightygodking.com/2009/08/25/this-issue-superman-doesnt-die/
No.45259
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/an-r-rated-version-of-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-is-on-a131383

So…this is a thing that’s going to happen. And I guarantee it’s because of Deadpool.

I didn’t think I could have my entire interest in this film killed off, and yet, here we are. Bravo, WB!
No.45260
Anonymous
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/23/batman-v-superman-r-rated-home-video

Wondering how things can go with that.
No.45262
Anonymous
Replies:>>45263
I forget where I saw it but James Gunn fucking called it. Lets hope Marvel Studios is smart enough not to go that direction.
No.45263
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45262

It’s Fox, not Marvel, but the next Wolverine film will be rated R. Of course, they were aiming for that prior to Deadpool’s success, but now the R-rating is a lock.
No.45264
Anonymous
>"I know! Deadpool's success is due to it being rated R!"

For fuck's sake, these people are trained professionals who went through schools for both film and business.
No.45265
Anonymous
At this point the DCCU is rapidly becoming a comedy of errors. Let's hope Suicide Squad turns out well and they learn to stop fucking aping off their more successful peers.
No.45266
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45264

What's worse: they may have just sabotaged the box office for BvS by announcing the “real” version of the film for BD months ahead of the actual BD release. If there is anyone actually interested in seeing that R-rated BvS, why would they settle for going to see the PG-13 version?
No.45268
Anonymous
Replies:>>45269
>>45264
Not to come to this movie's defense, because I'm sure it'll be awful, but it's entirely possible their thinking was more along the lines of
> I know! Deadpool's success despite its R rating means we can probably keep the material we had to cut to get our PG-13 rating without sacrificing our chance of success!"
No.45269
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>45268

And, as I pointed out, they essentially sabotaged that chance of success by announcing the "real" version of the film a month before a "neutered" version drops in theaters.
No.45270
Anonymous
Replies:>>45276
Still wondering what would make a movie with Batman and Superman in it rated R.
No.45271
Tiki
That Superman anything would be R rated is disgusting beyond measure.
No.45272
Anonymous
Replies:>>45273
>>45254
He was, but I'm not sure he still is.
No.45273
Anonymous
>>45272
RDJ is winding it down as he's been playing Tony for almost a decade now.
No.45274
Anonymous
Replies:>>45277
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3795796

>Lex Is Experimenting On Metahumans

>According to the leak, Lex Luthor isn't just investigating metahumans, he's kidnapping and experimenting on them.

So maybe the R rated stuff is some body horror. Wonder what minor heroes would get butchered by Cadmus which is a LexCorp Subsidiary in this one which he's keeping off the books from the government.
No.45276
Anonymous
>>45270
The graphic violence that has characterized the Didio era of DC comics, where if a comic book can have someone dismembered or exploded into red goo on screen, it will?
No.45277
Anonymous
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>>45274
Ideally with retro throwbacks being a big thing right now, I'd like a Cadmus storyline that eventually leads down to a 90s Kon-El solo film, but we can't have *fun* in the DC filmverse now can we?
No.45278
Anonymous
Replies:>>45282
>>45277
Seeing how poorly the Young Justice show handled all of that utterly sidelining the "Peter Pan" era of Conner going straight into the Brooding "I can't handle that Lex Luthor is one of my daddies" nonsense.

I don't have much hope no matter how much I'd love to see that Conner in the game learning the ropes with other young heroes. Not being some Black Ops "Off the Books" Justice League
No.45282
Anonymous
>>45278
The Young Justice cast was more based on the Teen TItans era so it doesn't surprise me that they'd skip it, and the first Teen Titans cartoon was originally going to be a straight adaptation of the old Young Justice comic. Really I just want my Kon, Bart, and Tim being adorable besties and Cassie actually being cool for once.
No.45296
Jumpman
Replies:>>45301
>Those rival distributors who lowered their Batman v. Superman opening forecasts toward $100M have their suspicions about the Zack Snyder-helmed movie given the MPAA’s news that the home entertainment version of the movie would carry an R-rating. However, according to social media monitor RelishMix, since the R-rated news broke, the conversation for #BatmanvSuperman spiked 60% with 5K combined hashtags across Twitter and Instagram. Ninety-five percent of the chatter is positive about that R-rating.

http://deadline.com/2016/02/batman-v-superman-opening-weekend-projections-advance-ticket-sales-1201709214/
No.45301
Anonymous
Replies:>>45302
>>45296
Basically, the masses are mostly idiots
No.45302
Anonymous
>>45301

Makes me wonder what the reaction will be when they toss each other around a bit but stop before actually doing any damage.