/mtv/ - Music, Television & Film

Sorry, still can't take Eisenberg Luthor seriously at all. Not with that last bit.

>>43309
Still don't understand why he wears a wig since posters show bald. Also I think all the super alien hate and desert attack Batman is a bit silly. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Be nice for another franchise to work.

Actually slightly less hype than I was before, and I wasn't even all that hype for the film to begin with.

It looks like it could be an interesting movie on its own, but not as an adaptation of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, or any of that stuff. Might as well just call it an adaptation of Supreme, Glory, and whoever Imagebats is.

>>43314

Snyder seems too preoccupied with '90s grimdark Miller-era shit. Between the muted color scheme of MoS and all the Batman stuff in BvS: Actual Movie Title, the DC Cinematic Galaxy as it stands right now seems to be going for grimdark "realisim" and a more "serious" tone than the MCU - and I'd rather have the campy fun of the MCU than whatever the hell Snyder wants to serve up.

>>43314
It reminds me a lot of that one episode of TAS with all the kids telling stories about Batman from from different angles and mediums. Cept this one ties them all together with overarching plot. I mean we've got some Dark Knight bit of Red Son maybe Injustice along with others. I worry it's going to come apart like Green Lantern did with all its story beats being clearly tooseperate to mesh fluidly.

>>43316
I think theoretically the DCCU could work as the dark and edgy counterpart to the MCU if it wasn't focused solely on those grimdark elements, if it had more a more competent showrunner, or if it wasn't Snyder as de facto head of creative direction.

Marvel gets a lot of shit for stifling its directors or for being samey, and I agree to an extent that they need to be transparent about that to the people they bring on, and maybe stop shoehorning connections to other films as extended ads, but as long as they're open with the people they work with and let them know what, from that it's not something that bothers me. It's an absolutely vital compromise if you want to ensure that your greater universe remains cohesive. This is something the DCCU currently lacks, and does not bode well for their Justice League film.

That's why when DuVernay backed out of Black Panther I don't necessarily see that as a failure on Marvel's part like some people claim. The two had different visions of the character. DuVernay wanted a more standalone project with maybe her own origin story, while Marvel wanted it to be true to the (also good if you're reading Priest's run) comics and mesh with the rest of the MCU. Better that they were frank and disagreed this early than for her to come on only for another Iron Man 2 or Wonder Woman fiasco to happen.

Eh, still dont give a shit.
Nice WW being in the trailer doh.

So, it seems that we are going to get yet another MY PARENTS ARE DEAD flashback in the movie, because audiences need to be reminded that Batman's parents are indeed dead and not on some extended caribbean vacations.

Other than that, pretty good trailer, although I am not getting a good reading of what are they doing with Lex.

It's much better than the previous trailer, but still not enough to win me over completely. Affleck still sounds like a twat but enjoying Alfred's Scar/10.

Alfred looks like one of those sexy English Literature teachers you had in middle school. Interesting to see fake Daniel Day Lewis in the role.

I'm not liking Eisenberg's Luthor.

>>43352
I friggin' love the Kryptonian heat vision in MoS, it's the complete opposito of the "realistic" and barely visible crap in Superman Returns. I mean, just look at that, a pillar of sun-powered death slicing huge concrete building like they were nothing. How could anyone witness such insane display of power and not feel utterly insignificant?

>>43354
Makes me wonder what humanity will do when there is a team of six of them. Lock the door when the Justice League shows up.

Suicide Squad - Comic-Con First Look
//youtube.com/watch?v=PLLQK9la6Go

>>43356
Waller looks great but the whole thing reeks of 2edgy4u.

>>43356
THIS is supposed to be their Guardians of the Galaxy?

>>43356
So supposedly he's breaking Harley in those scenes.

>>43365
Only in the sense of the characters' relative obscurity. The Green Lanterns have more thematically in common with GOTG.

>>43308
Why is it that costume designers for superhero movies insist on putting textures/patterns on the suits?

I've always felt that they put too much detail into stuff.

>>43374
They want them to look more expensiv so they can jerk off their egos about how better they are then TV.

>>43373
Not Necessarily the Justice League

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/16/8974699/suicide-squad-trailer-youtube-dmca

Marvel may have sent out DMCAs for its trailers and all that, but even they didn't go this far.

>>43393
Oh for crying out loud. What the fuck is wrong with them that even discussion videos are being banned.

>>43393

Its like they really don't understand how to publicity. Marvel lets some things slide because it helps build the base and interest. Warner Bros is kinda making a mess of things.

>>43394

Warner Bros. does that for a lot of videos, DC or otherwise. The MovieBob has had several DMCA run-ins with WB over several videos (notably from his "Really That Good" series) that featured content from WB-owned films.

>>43396
Have they knocked down that Channel with vids that Defend Man of Steel?

>>43395
The language from one of their responses, where they used terms "illegal sharing", made it sound like anyone who was a fan and wanted to see the trailer ASAP are horrible criminals. It's stupidity all around in WB, especially since it seems no one at WB considered it could leak.

>>43399

>especially since it seems no one at WB considered it could leak

WB's marketing machine had a carefully crafted plan that relied on dripping out information and screenshots and photos and trailers on their time. They never once considered that, you know, people would have smartphones at Comic-Con.

>>43400
Do they not realize all the damage that same marketing strategy has done for the Fantastic Four remake?

>>43401

No. No, they have not.

>>43400
>They never once considered that, you know, people would have smartphones at Comic-Con.
That's the thing: I'm sure they knew that people would have smartphones, but the people running the panel actually believed that asking attendees to not record the trailer they were about to show would stop a leak.

>>43403
I'm sure in some cultural arrangements that would be enough.

>>43405

The problem is, this is America.

>>43405
Geeks are geeks everywhere, even in Japan there are leaks.

>>43414
I can actually see the action, though.

>>43417
Seriously, Snyder has plenty of faults, but he is no Bay in his depictions of action and fighting.

>>43414
>Skinny twig who's acting talent is questionable getting a starring role.

Its not that hard to get it.

>Supposedly trained for months, nothing to show for it.

Just overall I think she's nowhere near the best pick because one I cannot see her as an Amazon, some gal who got powers of one sure, but not straight up Wonder Woman. She's pretty but not that classical beauty that wonder woman has.

Maybe it'll look better in the movie. Though the whole "Saving Aquaman" B plot that she may have sounds kinda cumbersome.

>>43420
At the least she's got the "Mediterranean" look someone who's supposed to be from Greek mythology like Wonder Woman should have. But it's true she completely lacks the physical presence you'd expect from such a character.

You know, while Gadot not being a huge WW isn't a dealbreaker for me, I must admit that it would have been nice if she at least had bulked up more for the part. I mean, if Cavill and Affleck did it, it is not unreasonable to expect her to do the same.

>>43424
She's not primarily an actress she's a fashion model. And those gigs require them to be twiggy (because honestly fashion designs are shit at designing clothes for a woman with an actual figure)

>>43426
Exactly.

I was hoping she would at least have a commanding presence or something for her to be convincing but... I'm rooting for her either way. But I'm getting my doubts.

>>43426
>She's not primarily an actress she's a fashion model. And those gigs require them to be twiggy

Cool. So, why hire her to begin with?

>>43430

Dumbass "conventionally beautiful"-centric Hollywood Logic, I'd assume. If she's not a twig, she's not pretty!

>>43433
Maybe, the short list was Gadot with Elodie Yung and Olga Kurylenko So two models and an Actress. And now the actress (Yung) will be in the second Season of Daredevil.

>>43430
Because the Adrienne Palicki/David E. Kelley pilot didn't go anywhere.

>>43436
Damn shame, oh to be crushed between those thighs. Cripes it would be fun to watch her throw down in some Superhero Combat. And other DC gals she could play? Powergirl comes to mind.

>>43440
Higher body count than Godzilla.

>>43440
Whole Justice League is setting up to feel more like the Justice Lords.

>>43393

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/14/8959615/suicide-squad-trailer-warner-leaked-trailer-reaction

>The reaction to the Suicide Squad footage was mostly positive; this was a great thing for Warner Bros. until they had to stomp in and make sure we knew they didn't approve of the way we were excited about their product and everyone needs to cut it out at once or they'll turn this movie right around and drive home. This was an amazing PR win for a film that was seen with much skepticism, if only Warner would have embraced it.

>>43461
Ahh glad to see Warner Bros keeping that bit alive. That bit of the Hollywood Critic getting pissed that people were actually enjoying Unbreakable and not chuckling mockingly at the "capshit"

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/judging-by-the-cover/10278-Suicide-Squad-Promo-Review

>>43502
Maybe too good of a pick, considering he's leagues above Gadot in terms of acting and will probably end up stealing the spotlight from her as a result.

>>43673
Atom Smasher Edge
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/16/wwe-superstar-adam-edge-copeland-to-play-atom-smasher-on-the-flash

And then Amell at SummerSlam.

//youtube.com/watch?v=ApAT848X9L4

Though serious their ongoing fight is some of the best stuff since Attitude Era.

>>43687

Dat leap into the ring from Raw. I hope to God that Amell gets to do some fun shit at SummerSlam. (I'm also hoping he can talk the CW/Warner Bros. into letting him wear either the actual Arrow costume or a reasonable facsimile.)

Also: considering Cody Rhodes is a comic book fan and Amell is a lifelong WWE fan, how much do you think they’re geeking out over getting to work with each other?

>>43689
Come sliding in on a Zip-line, "Stardust, you have failed this ring". About to make the pin then

//youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ycXfMF318

Bam Goldust comes in knocking Amell to the ground. What will happen, will The Golden Star beat Amell?

>The project evokes NBC’s signature comedy series The Office, but with superheroes. Based on characters from DC Comics, Powerless is a workplace comedy set at one of the worst insurance companies in America — with the twist being that it also takes place in the universe of DC Comics. The show is about the reality of working life for a normal, powerless person in a world of superheroes and villains.

http://deadline.com/2015/08/dc-comics-powerless-comedy-series-nbc-1201499139/

>>43708
Is it going to be canon to the movies, the TV shows, or its own canon? Because it sounds like exactly the kind of tone stuff the movies could use.

>>43708
Wasn't there a DC Comic ABOUT an insurance type company who's whole deal was fixing that stuff? Like, is it going to be based off of that or did someone coincidentally have an admittedly not too hard to think of idea?

...
Or was that Marvel?

>>43711
Thanks.

>>43711
I want one of the One-Shots to be this.

As a whole I have immense love for the TV side of the DC Universe. They are just great people.

//youtube.com/watch?v=zNF5D_Oc7aA

Also can't wait for footage of Amell, word is he brought the pro and put on a good show.

>>43779

Word is Amell did fine, all things considered.

>>43781
So, is he going to make a return appearence around the release of Bay-age Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 to do something with Seamus?

>>43783

Bit of a wonky dive there, but all things considered, better than I thought he’d do. Kinda makes me wonder just how good he’d do if he decided to make the jump into a full-bore wrestling career.

Suicide Squad giving each other legit tats.

http://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/36130/20150822/suicide-squad-cast.htm

I really hope the film is fun.

http://batman-news.com/2015/08/24/henry-cavill-superman-suicide-squad/

Supes chatting it up with Bats in the movie?

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/man-steel-2-permanent-hold-because-batman-v-superman-dawn-justice-rumor-469411

Hope it's just a rumor, could derail their whole setup.

Now that Supergirl has been out for a while what do people think of it?

>>43816
Have not watch it.

>>43823
Did they at least tone down the over-the-top "girly" elements from the trailer?

>>43825
As of right now, no. The only thing out is the "leaked" pilot and that takes up about 2/3rds of the episode.

>>43825
I kinda hope it doesn't. Its not an espionage thriller like Black Widow would be since its what most people draw the comparison to.
Its supergirl! She's girly as heck, even her suit's basically a cheerleader outfit with the super colors.

>>43828
At least get rid of the campier elements, unless the show is intentionally aiming for some comedy.

>>43829

>get rid of the campier elements

No. Please, God, no. I want some fucking camp in my superhero shows unless it's a show about a character that isn’t meant to be even remotely campy (e.g. Punisher). Now if there’s ’60s Batman levels of camp, yes, tone it down—but don’t drop it all out entirely.

>>43829
Fuck that, Supergirl's campier than Superman.

While a Supergirl show should be "girly" (I mean, it's in the name), it should not be 2/3 of the content. Again, it is in the name, she should be Super first, and then a girl. I certainly did not watch Smallville back in the day for the teenager school drama.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/supergirl-red-tornado-iddo-goldberg-t-o-morrow-1201583347/
Red Tornado? That's one step towards getting a proper adaptation of Young Justice that wasn't in name only (Weisman's) or turned into something else (Teen Titans).

>>43848
Bring in Wonder Girl and a few others and we've got a team.

//youtube.com/watch?v=2q3l4fMVCO8

So that's where Constantine went.

>>43866
Maybe him having a mini arc finding the entrance into Dr.Fates tower.

>>43866
Will he kiss a dude onscreen?

>>43868
Possibly, they've already got Flash and their gay police Captain

>>43866
>D. Ramond Palmer
>(1981-2015)

So wait. Ray actually died? That explosion that happened during the "uplifting" ending of Season 3? Right before we watched Oliver and Flicity drive off into the sunset with smiles on their faces? That killed him? That's... unbelievably crappy. Why did they kill Ray? Ray was a good guy, he didn't deserve to die, especially in an accident. At least Sara's death drove the plot for half of Season 3.

>>43870
He's one of the main characters in Legends of Tomorrow, so no. I think he just shrank and hasn't figured out how to reverse it yet.

>>43871
Set it to Wumbo

>>43871
Well that's a relief.

I never expected to feel so hyped about a live-action superheorics show in a while, but The Flash jut got me. I'm already half the show and I can't stop squeaking like a little girl.

http://www.pajiba.com/dc_movies/the-way-comics-fans-treat-zack-snyder-is-ridiculous-and-shortsighted.php

Man of Steel sucks, but Snyder's statement was anything but controversial.

>>43953
No, it was a pretty fucking stupid comment.

So Amell has been chased off Social Media because he wanted to note "Hey not all Texans are racist assholes". But you should know better than to disagree with the SJW mass when they are on a tirade. Damn shame as Arrow was starting back soon and I liked his charity stuff.

>>43959

That was a severely tonedeaf thing to tweet, and it doesn't sound like he got 'run off' so much as he realized he done goofed and decided to step back for a while.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-entertainment-give-classic-batman-824572

Bill Finger gets the credit he deserved for so long.

>>43959
>So Amell has been chased off Social Media
oh no
>because he wanted to note "Hey not all Texans are racist assholes".
i suppose that's true, but its not like that adds to the dialo--
>you should know better than to disagree with the SJW mass
...


And its at that point when you realize there's probably more to it than the gross oversimplification at play here.

>>43961
>Bill Finger
Hur hur hur, you said Finger.

>>43963
Damn, can't delete my own shitpost. Oh well.

DAT FLASH FINALE
DAT REVERSE FLASH
DAT EVERYTHING
NOOOOOOO EDDIE :c
Holy shit, is was amazing!
And I really enjoyed Reverse Flash's downfall. Now I'm ready for season two. And you're next on the list, Starlight Glimmer.

>>43961
Finally!

http://collider.com/watchmen-tv-series-hbo-zack-snyder/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Snyder wants another shot at Watchmen.

>>44018
In hindsight, kinda hoped he had waited for TV series to get as much traction as they have. Its frankly the best format for such a layered story.

I didn't dislike the movie, but I imagine a series would be better paced.

>>44019
Agreed. The comic itself was very episodic, with each of the characters getting their own dedicated issue. Jamming them all in the same movie might have worked if the movie hadn't been so literal with the source material, but adapting the comic to movie pacing would have strayed much too far from the source material for fans' tastes.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/10/01/will-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-be-the-most-sophisticated-superhero-film-yet-3571094

I really hope it comes off well. Film is pretty full with Doomsday Zod being in it don't know if it will have the space for slow introspective moments and be able to maintain a pace.

>>44022
Just sounds pretentious too me.

>>44022

Gotta agree with T4, this shit sounds ridiculous.

>>44022
Haha no. Zach Snyder is already directing it. It's too late, the movie's doomed to be mediocre at best.

They really should have taken it slow. By the time they would have gotten to Justice League with a good world build then MCU would be in a lul after Infinity War and doing just smaller scale films while Star Wars would take the main load of Disney attention for a while.

But setting this one up to be a Billion Dollar success and then looking for JL to break the 2B number. Too much too fast and using Batman as a crutch which overall just makes me kinda sad.

>>44025
My hope is that Affleck will ghost-direct the "talking heads" parts of the movie, and leave the action parts to Snyder.

>>44031
Maybe that was the talk about the Batman pieces, letting him get the hang on it now before his trilogy.

Just got around to watching Man of Steel. What a complete turd.

New Flash and Arrow is already air on swedish tv.
Love it when that happens even if Arrow is to late for my sleep schedule.
But whatever, I get better picture quality on Hulu anyway.

>>44142

…meh.

>>44142
Looks like he came from a Patrick Nagel pic.

http://www.themarysue.com/time-warner-dc-noooo/

Warner Bros., what in the actual fuck are you doing.

>>44217
>http://www.themarysue.com/time-warner-dc-noooo/
Oh for fuck sake!

It like they want Marvel to win.

>>44217
>>44218

>Netflix has grown too strong we must punish them
>blows their own face off.

DC r smrt

Well they really don't give a shit about Television, if BvS makes a solid Billion then Television will die because Movies matter more those are the big ticket for the Studio.

>>44229

Zoom looks like what would happen if Flash melted the goddamn Terror Mask into his cowl, holy shit I love it.

>>44229
Changing the channel after the Flash to watch SHIELD consistently ends in disappointment.

Like even if they pull the most obvious twist reveals with Zoom's identity, it will still be more compelling (and probably better acted) than the Lash reveal.

>>44232
There is an idea that Zoom is Black Flash combined with Barry's Father

>>44232
You are betting on the wrong pony harder than Ellen Page bet on David Cage against The Last of Us.

>>44234
Don't know what exactly you mean here. Scheduling wise, SHIELD is on after Flash. And it is rarely ever close to as enjoyable.

HOLY SHIT THEY MANAGED TO MAKE THE HAWKS RAD

Will Kara get that red ring?

>>44311
It's happened before.

What ultimately destroys the Hawks in the end, usually, is overly committing to making the Thanagarian ones also the reincarnatey ones. Also, a tendency to write Hawkman as a reactionary conservative dickbag.

>>44313
Means he'll butt heads with Ollie if things go down that path.

Holy shit Batman v Superman looks like complete ass.

Yeah, that new BvS trailer isn’t inspiring any hope that the movie’s going to be good. They give away everything about the plot and show off the “third act villain” of the film just so people will know what the movie’s going to show off in terms of the “DC Cinematic Universe”. And even if they hadn’t spoiled everything, the film still comes off as garbage, though maybe that’s the fault of a shitty trailer.

Man of Steel was a disappointment, but at least I was interested in it beforehand. I don’t even want to know how BvS turns out.

>>44316
Gotta love that Snyder.

Too damn dark again Affleck looks grubby. Damn I feel bad for whoever spent the time assembling the wardrobe that picked colors.

Sup Frankendoomzod. Still don't know why they felt the need to bring that one out this early. Bizzaro would have been fine as it would have showcased that Wondy is just as strong as Supes.

>>44321

I think the point of that reveal was to send a message: “Yeah, you’re gonna get an Act Three Brawl between Doomsday and the DC Trinity—plus the first movie with the DC Trinity in it—so buy your tickets now.” And let’s be fair, a lot of tickets are gonna be sold for this movie in the opening weekend regardless of the film’s quality, so prepping people for the idea of Doomsday vs. The Trinity was, from a marketing standpoint, a shrewd maneuver.

>>44322
Though it leaves nothing on the plate for Superman later. Though going by the schedule and his films being removed from the table. Supes may not have the chance to tackle any more of his heavy hitters.

Also so much for it being Metallo or something.

I really, really, REALLY hope that there is more to this new Luthor than just manic quirkiness, or else he's going to be the worst part of the movie.

Also, awesome how that old leak (the one that put the film's climax as a battle of the big three Vs Doomsday) that basically everybody said had to be bullshit, now proves right.

I guess the thing with Doomsday is that the movie can really let the heroes go medieval on him, doubly so since he is zombie Zod and there is no question of him being alive.

>>44325

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, unless you wanted to see Lex Luthor in a stupid fucking armored suit like Batman wears in this movie, which, hey, sorry the movie disappointed you already.

We all knew the movie was going to end with Bats and Supes putting whatever differences they have aside and working together against a common foe—how else would Justice League even be a thing otherwise?—and Darkseid was never going to be the “final boss” of this particular film, so Doomsday was the only logical villain for the Third Act Brawl. That he’ll canonically be a Zod-bie is a good way of giving him a proper DCCU origin that doesn't waste any other villain (including Luthor) on what will likely be Doomsday’s only appearance in the DCCU.

BvS did not interest me at all until this trailer.

Now I can't wait to see it just for Max Landis brand Luthor stinking up the tryhard grimdark tone.

>>44322
It sends the message that the DCCU can't deliver in terms of content so it's trying to make up for it in terms of sheer spectacle. Not the most inspiring feeling.

>>44328

On the other hand, the tone is different from the MCU (“grimdark” vs “down-to-earth with a bit of camp and snark”), so people who want that from superhero movies will have the DCCU. Doesn’t mean the DCCU will be better or worse than the MCU, just different. (Though if Batman v Superman: Actual Film Title is as “controversial” in terms of quality as its DCCU predecessor…)

>>44328
That's how I felt. At first it seemed there might be some intrigue and conflict between characters, but by the end of the trailer you have "watch Batman™ and Superman™ team up with Wonder Woman™ to defeat the evil Doomsday™."

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/09/is-ben-affleck-overdoing-it-with-botox

Hope Benny can keep his face together and doesn't end up looking like Clayface. Though that would work as a film arc and another "real" Batman takes him down.

MovieBob made a good point on Twitter:

>DC Cinematic Universe is weird because so far it's primary influences are ALL "alt-universe" books that mostly trash the characters legacies

More talk sounds like its doing the whole Dark Knight mashup stuffing all of that in where they can find a spot to stuff it.

Maybe Cram some Bizzaro in as well.

Movie may be trying so hard to be serious that it comes off as unintentionally funny. Just like Rises.

http://www.thewrap.com/suicide-squad-trailer-to-debut-during-batman-v-superman-special-on-cw/

Snyder put up a teaser they are playing during the football games

https://twitter.com/zacksnyder/status/685934186805374976

That whole bit seems rather strange. Batman wrecks his car and then threatens Superman and Supes just looks on confused. Also I cannot tell if its just my headphones but it sounds like they are altering Batman voice. I think I remember reading that this Batman uses a voice changer. Just asking if anyone else hears it.

//youtube.com/watch?v=DMoNUB0O5o4

That drawl and then the clown. Eh whatever.

It strikes me as weirdly low budget, or more accurately shot without any idea of how to shoot dialogue in order to make it interesting.

I will say this much, has Snyder ever released a trailer that was dialogue driven before?

>>44764

Going through my head I'd think Watchmen maybe but none of the trailers really hooked on a conversation really all just action shots with a voice over. Maybe one with Rorschach and Nite Owl.

Film looks very washed out and dark. The shot with Batman on the car, the fire barely does anything to light him and it almost looks like a pair of eyes just floating in blackness.

People already using "Don't believe everything you hear, son." as if its some bad ass line. I just don't see it. Same with him in the car. Something just seems off.

>>44737
I have a feeling I'm really going to hate Lex, and not in the good but the bad kind.

Conan clip being a more complete "Do you bleed" scene.

https://youtu.be/AgQrxGV7Brk

//youtube.com/watch?v=AgQrxGV7Brk

RoboBat vs Overdub man.

Actually makes it seem a little less impressive than before. Superman ripping into the crashed Batmobile making a threat which while based on Batman being a lawless vigilante and Supes approving doesn't look as good as Batman just making threats and Superman flying off.

>>44822
What's with Bat's voice? Is he speaking into a vocoder in his collar or something?

>>44841
Yea he's using a voice changer. That's going to be silly if they keep it up all the way through.

>>44823

Really not filling me with confidence here. Even X-Men: Apocalypse appeals to me more than this, and I don’t give half a fuck about X-films.

>>44843
Yeah I don't expect it to be terrible but neither the story or the characters seem like they're going to be very interesting. At least with the X-Men and Marvel films previous entries have given me a basis to care about what happens to them. Man of Steel was just... meh.

//youtube.com/watch?v=F90nxOlsm1s

I still don't get how it could go so sideways. This did it pretty well. Still drives the point that Superman doesn't approve of Batman's vigilantism but its no where near as creepy and insane.

I just to don't the feeling I get from watching those trailers. Their whole world feels angry. And I really don't want to go to a movie to feel angry. Maybe its just me.

>>44846

>Their whole world feels angry. And I really don't want to go to a movie to feel angry.

It ain’t just you, anon. Everything about this film so far feels like it’s ripped from the Grimdark ’90s era of comics. None of it feels right.

>>44847
Probably because it kind of is. The Dark Knight Returns was partly responsible for all of that.

>>44847
>Everything about this film so far feels like it’s ripped from the Grimdark ’90s era of comics.

But Superman largely remained Noblebright through the 90s. Even him DYING was a story about his noble brightness inspiring people in memorium.

>>44850

Nobody in Hollywood seems to get Superman, so no shit they managed to fuck him up.

>>44852
//youtube.com/watch?v=BIaF0QKtY0c

they did once.

Here we see City Clark trying to just be Clark and tell the truth, and he chickens out.

At his core he's Clark Kent and wants to do good. I feel they miss that a bit.

>>44850
The main comics kept him a noble hero, but Elseworlds loved tearing him a new one.

>>44856
Not him, but examples?

The Elseworlds I've read always have Superman as a moral anchor even in the worst case scenarios. Dark Knight Returns portrayed him as noble if entirely misguided, and hell, even a bullshit tryhard story like At Earth's End has Superman as the only somewhat good person around.

>>44856
Which works for a one off or a universe that challenges the main one. Its like a Justice Lords Offshoot. Superman is a bit less caring in fault to his paranoid foster father keeping his distance. Batman has some form of PTSD from Jason's death (who for some reason was still wearing the scale briefs with an armored up torso) and is quite unhinged more than usual. Wondering how they'll thematically darken the rest of the crew when they show up.

>>44892
Has it had a trailer yet?

So Gotham still being a mess outside of a penguin tale? Renee shown back up or has she just been dismissed since Barbara went all psycho. Just wondering if I should bother watching it on Netflix when season 2 goes up,

>>44897
You should not only give up, you should try and find a way to wipe it from your mind.

>>44897

I watched most of the first season recently, I only had a few more episodes to go so I should probably finish it just to say I finished it but...fuck. It's really bad.

WOW, Ball FUCKING DROPPED on Wally West, holy shit.

Here's the Suicide Squad trailer:

//youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs

>>44930


Its something I guess. Hope it didn't give too much away. Though I feel it kinda did.

>>44934
Neat, wonder if it'll be a comic arc or something new.

//youtube.com/watch?v=i9Ur4De7yT8

>>44934
LOBO!
FUCK YEAR!
MACHETE as Lobo sounds perfect, but I'm kinda doubtful that Lobo can properly done in the modern DC movie-verse. I'm just glad to see the raunchy bastard again. But then again Suicide Squad looks fun, so hopefully my fears are unfounded and the DC movei-verse can know when to 'lighten up'.

>>44939
> I'm kinda doubtful that Lobo can properly done in the modern DC movie-verse.

If anyone belongs in the Snyderverse, it's Lobo.

Good Idea: Re-introduce Wally West as African American to distinguish him from Barry.

Bad Idea: He's a troubled black teen that needs the stern white hand of the law to set him straight.

>What kind of absurd world do we live in where it’s the villains that look like they’re having all the fun, and the superheroes just have to solemnly glower slightly off-screen, trapped in their dark, colorless dystopia? The bizarre world of DC movie marketing apparently, where our heroes are far too busy looking glum all the time to stand up to the comics they represent.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-suicide-squad-poster-shows-us-everything-wrong-wit-1753859683

>>44941
Just in keeping with what they did in the comics. Also, keeping things racially consistent with the other TV Wests.

What really hurt them was HAVING BARRY DATE WALLY'S WIFE.

>>44942
Yes, this. Suicide Squad has all my attention and looks like it will be ten times more fun than Batman V Superman.

>>44969
>long hair

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>>44992
They may have gone a bit too far with the "he's so crazy in this film they may have to lock him up after it comes out."Line of promotion.

>>44992
I dunno about that, but as I recall he has a very serious history of sexual battery against women.

>>45000
>>44992

From what I recall, those allegations were done by groupies in a gossip blog that doesn't exist anymore, and the worst account was one girl who said that she "felt raped" because Leto was very rough. Some would say this is another Cosby affair, but IMO anonymous internet posting is several levels below in credibility than those women that actually stepped in the spotlight to accuse Bill Cosby.

>>45001
Either way it'd be a dumb reason to boycott the movie, it's terrible looking enough on it's own, no one needs to come up with new reasons not to go see it.

>>44992
Not children, according to the rumors it was teenage groupies. Big difference there, and Tumblr is probably just wording it that way to spin it in the worst light possible. Not that it would ever mean it was OK if any of it was true, since they're still underaged. But there's a wide gulf between shitty creep who's willing to take advantage of his groupies and treats them like garbage, and guy who would be the star of a Chris Hansen special if The Man wasn't covering up for him, like Tumblr's trying to make him out to be.

>>44992
All I've seen on Tumblr about Jared Leto is that he's a hot topic scene kid who thinks he's edgy because he changed the wallpaper on someone's phone and is convinced they're going to "lock him away" because he played a cartoon character in a PG-13 movie.

>>45005
Obviously? If I said it it can only be my opinion.

Tell me you disagree, don't crutch on a tired meme.

I wanna like this movie, and the trailers make it seem like it'll be a lot more fun than BvS at least. But it seems like they're going too hard with the edge to the point that it seems comical, and not even in a self-aware way.

>>45011
Yea you don't need Deadpool or for DC equivalent Ambush Bug to Lampshade the moment. These guys have been doing this shit for years. Be easy enough for them to riff off each others pasts.

>>45013
Well, the movies DOES have DC's current equivalent to Deadpool on it.

>>45016
Oh yea, forgot that is how they were pushing Harley now. Something akin to old '90s Pool but more murder prone.

>>45027
Still going to be bad

>>45027
I saw Deviant Art edits in 2006 of Brandon Routh and Christian Bale of the exact same quality.

So how quickly will this much hyped fight be over or interrupted by outside forces? I give it three minutes.

>>45030
The opposite, Synder doesn't know how to pace fights, remember Sucker Punch and Man of Steel? The question should be how boring will the fight be and how drug out.

>>45031
That's the thing, the Batman Vs Superman fight (which is why people are coming to see the movie) most likely will end real quick, and then cut to a half hour fight against Doomsday.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/wonder-woman-is-a-5000-year-old-retired-superhero-when-batman-a130408

So 5,000 year old Amazon Immortal. Think there will be others or will she be the only Amazon in this film universe.

Still the whole "where was she when earth was being devoured by machines from space, in retirement." Seems kinda lame. Just have her fighting a Kraken or something in the Bermuda Triangle which sounds more awesome than just "she'd retired"

>>45033
Even if she stopped caring for humanity, the whole retirement excuse doesn't make any sense. Zod and his cronies weren't just annihilating us, they were killing the entirety of earth's biosphere to remake Krypton, so her inaction would mean she didn't give a hoot about the planet. You know, the one planet where she is living.

You know, thinking about it, Bruce should also be pretty pissed off at Diana, not just at Clark. If she had appeared at least during Clark's fight with Zod, a LOT less people would have died. I seriously hope that if the point shows up in the movie (which I doubt, ten bucks says it will be swept under the rug), the explanation will be better than "LOL sry, k? I jus dint care".

If I was Snyder, I'd show that Diana did get to Metropolis, but seeing that Clark was doing fine, instead of fighting she focused on saving civilians.

That would have made sense and the movie would probably be a bit more watchable.

>>45035
It also makes Wonder Woman a known entity at least a hundred years ago if not for hundreds upon thousands of years. Wonder if Lois ever tried to find her.

If she worked under the guise of a EMT or Police to rescue people yea that would work. Hell that could even be her job in retirement. She doesn't directly fight the big ones anymore but she does help or arrest the small ones.

Maybe her wi-fi was down the day of the attack.
Boy, her most have been red when she got the newspaper the day after.

>>45038
Long night at whatever she works as a retirement job this century. Sees the reports afternoon news. Picks up her phone and taps in a new reminder "Pick up new Alarm Clock w/Radio" Walks off the the bathroom grumbling "Why can't they ever start these invasions in the afternoon."

Or by "Retired" they mean became a hermit living on an island somewhere.
Its easy to miss stuff when you dont give a shit.

Anyway, hope they dont make any lame "amazon=lesbo" joke...
Now a "my mom hates me for being staight" subversion joke on the other~

>>45040
If she didn't just pop down to the planet from 5,000 years ago because she's actually also from Krypton, really hope not.

>>45042

>she trys to be hip with the kids.

So everyone living.

I kid but I know we won't be getting anything like this.

//youtube.com/watch?v=hQG6w0OfoHI

Makes me sad as it would have also been easy to write in.

Diana making her way into the world after she finds some sod locked up on the island from another shipwreck. Her mother put them there after his ravings of monsters from other planets eating the earth.

Diana making her way to the mainland to find this "Superman" who fought said monsters.

That Legends of Tomorrow Ending. Didn't expect that to happen so soon.

http://www.newsarama.com/27836-zack-snyder-if-you-re-a-comic-book-fan-you-know-i-didn-t-change-superman.html
Really, Snyder? Really?

>>45075
>>true canon
ffs you arrogant prick...

>>45075

Jesus tapdancing Christ.

>>45075
He honestly sounds like he has no clue as to what he's talking about. Like he's just flinging it out there and hope nobody calls him on it.

>>45075
Shit like this is exactly why I'm not looking forward to BvS.

Can actors work past poor directors and make a good film?

>>45085
Depends on the script. I mean look at the Star Wars prequels, they have some legit good scenes but as a whole the suck outweighs the good.

Which is what concerns me going into this. Snyder is missing a few things as a director to really pull it all together.

I mean I want this to be at least moderately successful and not end up a joke like Rises did. Because I don't think DC could survive Warner Bros burning down the house again like they did with Green Lantern and after Man of Steel with all of Superman films being shelved.