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DC GENERAL


Surprising no one, Wells is confirmed The Reverse Flash, Grodd up in this bitch and FIRESTORM WAS FUCKING AWESOME.
No.41949
The Sneaky Tiki
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Also The Flash makeup team is god like.

The show is taking a month long pause, when it returns Barry will have a new costume that will be a godsend IRL and will allow them to produce full costume Flash scenes with a third of the time, down to 2 hours from the original costume to half an hour and now just 15 minutes to put on.

For those alarmed at the Grodd scene thinking they were showing him too much and therefore looking a little CGI goofy it was mainly so the audience would have a clear understanding of his size as they have said before "we'll only ever see Grodd underground and/or at night" though apparently they haven't rule out and animatronic gorilla head for his dialogue scenes.
No.41950
The Sneaky Tiki
//youtube.com/watch?v=H8cJwED5Itgyoutube thumb

I'm really glad that they haven't tried to dance around his identity for the audience and have made it about the characters trusting him and seeing that shattered instead.
No.41951
The Sneaky Tiki
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Well's costume also has an organic texture when examined really closely.
No.41967
Jumpman
Fox picked up Lucifer.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/lucifer-dc-comics-drama-pilot-order-fox-1201436618/
No.41970
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>41977
Clancy Brown playing Lex killed Grodd in the Justice League Unlimited finale with him swearing revenge on him, now Grodd killed Clancy Brown in The Flash.
No.41971
The Sneaky Tiki
>>41967
"Whacky Police Expert Show with Sassy Female Sidekick"

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/02/09/ive-just-read-lucifer-pilot-cop-show-cute-kid/
No.41972
Anonymous
>>41967
Wonder how they'll handle Mazikeen.
No.41973
Anonymous
So did Future Barry pull the Speed force out of wells? Hence at the gadgetry to get back on the tracks.
No.41975
Anonymous
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https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/568650209581858817
No.41976
Jumpman
>>41975
>https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/568650209581858817

There's an arrow pointing towards his dick!
No.41977
Anonymous
>>41970
How the hell did I not pick up on Eiling being Clancy Brown?
No.41980
Anonymous
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>>41975
Wish Snyder would fuck off with slapping desaturation onto every thing. He doesn't need to be bright green and red spandex but more visible gold would've been nice.
No.41982
Jumpman
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/34256/20150220/how-to-help-nbcs-constantine-get-a-second-season.htm
No.41991
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>41993
>>41982
It wouldn't need saving if it wasn't a lame show.
No.41993
Bunker !OFOzVPOG0g
>>41991
its decent but it does need more teeth and NBC cannont give it that.
No.41996
The Sneaky Tiki
>>41993
Why though? It's the network that has Hannibal.
No.41997
Anonymous
>>41993
I understand that it is missing a lot of the grittiness of Hellblazer, and NBC is limited by the FCC nonsense, but I've greatly enjoyed Constantine. Perhaps part of the reason I do is that I wasn't familiar at all with Constantine except for the name and basic setup prior to seeing this show. (Well, I saw the Keanu Reeves movie, but I understand that also takes a lot of liberties from the source.)
No.42002
Jumpman
Replies:>>42004
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Will Arnett pulls off a convincing Batman.
No.42004
Anonymous
>>42002
Apparently that was Val Kilmer's Batman Forever suit.
No.42042
The Sneaky Tiki
THE ARROW BUTTHURT WILL BE IMMENSE TONIGHT
No.42043
The Sneaky Tiki
Not really sure I like where they've gone with Ray, but I figure the further they move him away from Arrow the less Tony Stark he'll start to be.

Cuz right now he's WAAAAAAAAY too Tony Stark, like giving him flight is a little too much, but given Arrow's Universe they are kinda stuck, they really need to shift him over to The Flash soon.
No.42044
The Sneaky Tiki
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http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/supergirl-cbs-cast-chyler-leigh-david-harewood-1201442407/

YES
No.42045
Anonymous
>Mooney's eye
FUCK.
WHAT.
No.42046
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42044
I really hope the Supergirl outfit isn't trash.

Also Ray Palmer was apparently supposed to be Ted Kord on Arrow but Synder said he wanted him and fucked everything up at the last minute, if they had gotten Kord they were thinking about putting in Booster as a fame seeking guy with no time travel stuff.

But again, thanks Snyder, you scuttled all that.
No.42047
Anonymous
>>42044
Is Kara Zor-El not a blonde in this? What the fuck?
No.42048
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42047
She's gonna dye her hair or wear a wig.
No.42049
Anonymous
Replies:>>42050
>>42047
Why would a series where Jimmy Olsen and Cyborg Superman are both black need Supergirl to be blonde?
No.42050
Anonymous
>>42049
Same reason Superman shouldn't be. It's pretty much iconic at this point. And no, Cir-El doesn't count.
No.42055
T4 was here
Replies:>>42058
Hmmm, if you mix Constantin and Gotham would you get the Sam and Twitch show?
No.42058
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42055
Yes.
No.42059
Bunker !OFOzVPOG0g
http://io9.com/a-former-superman-and-supergirl-join-the-new-supergirl-1688515014

Neat, Kinda what I think they should do with a Wonder Woman Show. Lynda Carter being Queen Hippolyta and Lucky Lawless being Diana Prince.
No.42086
Jumpman
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http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/supergirl-costume-revealed-photos-melissa-benoist-cbs-1201447987/
No.42087
Anonymous
Replies:>>42093
>>42086
Kinda bland and Halloween-costumey compared to Flash and Arrow's, though I guess you can't do too much with Supergirl's costume to begin with. At least it's practical.
No.42092
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42086

...eh, could always be worse.
No.42093
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>42087
The thing that costume says to me is "Much smaller budget than Flash & Arrow" though like Flash and Arrow they'll probably tweak it.

Things that would help:

Brighter colors less evocative of Superman returns and Man of Steel.
In trying to streamline and distinguish the symbol they accomplished neither and the result is bland, gold on a red background would have gone better with her hair.
Shortening her boots, the terrible Nu52 design uses the same boot height but has holes in the knees to prevent unflattering "wrinkly knees."
Shortening the sleeves to just below the elbow which serves the same purpose as the open neck and flatters females curves better (Super Best Friends Forever skits pointed this out and they're super right.)
Lastly a more "plastic" belt would again help make it less Halloween and more dynamic.

So basically Live Action Super Best Friends forever with the Calvin Ellis' "S" design, obviously the proportions don't need to apply.

THAT SAID, This is awesome considering how bad it coulda been, plus 90% of this show will be at night, it helps make SFX look less shit so at least they know what they're designing for.

(I hope she has shorts under that skirt because she's gonna be doing SO MUCH WIRE WORK.)
No.42094
Anonymous
Some say Amell has been seen around the set rumoring an Arrow crossover of some sort.
No.42096
Anonymous
Replies:>>42100
>>42086
How am I supposed to tell how good the costume is in such shitty lighting?
No.42100
Anonymous
Replies:>>42166
>>42096
Valid complaint also we'd better wait till they get their pilot done. Won't be the first time CBS dumped a show at that stage. Hope that Amell bit is true and its shipped off to CW
No.42166
Anonymous
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>>42100
JAMES OLSEN (Mehcad Brooks).

>James is a smart, worldly and attractive photographer who has recently transferred from the Daily Planet in Metropolis to CatCo in National City for mysterious reasons. Jimmy is popularly known as "Superman's Pal" and, though an alpha male, his salt-of-the-earth nature elicits a huge crush from Kara.

Someone really didn't like Nerdy Jimmy.
No.42168
Anonymous
Replies:>>42169
>>42166
>Jimmy
>smart, worldly and attractive
>though an alpha male, his salt-of-the-earth nature elicits a huge crush

What the fuck, at that point they shouldn't even name him Jimmy anymore, if they're going to get rid of what made him interesting/appealing.
No.42169
Anonymous
>>42168
I don't know about complaining that Jimmy is smart and worldly- He's been all over the place and he isn't an idiot.

But yeah, the rest makes it pretty clear they are just hijacking the name to tie it closer to Superman, without using Superman.

Probably should have just used Comet the Super Horse.
No.42170
Anonymous
I'm more confused about what the deal is going to be with Hank Henshaw, considering he's named after the Cyborg, who's supposed to end up looking like a robot copy of Superman. Unless it's another case of in-name only.
No.42172
Anonymous
Overall we'll see how things pan out after they test the pilot. Which will be "leaked" just like the Flash was. It seems okay.

If we get some backstory that Jimmy was a massive geek but had it bullied out of him and he stars reconnecting with some of what he loved through Kara. That could help it.
No.42179
Anonymous
Hm, seems that Jared Leto is going to be doing a variation of the Mark Hamill Joker voice.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squads-jared-leto-teases-his-joker-voice
No.42180
Anonymous
>>42179
Which in turn is partly based on how Cesar Romero did it. The history of the Joker.
No.42181
Anonymous
>>42179
Can't unhear the Solid Snake growl.
No.42190
Anonymous
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/yonny616/news/?a=117366

WB told CW to axe their Deadshot since they've got plans for him in their suicide squad movie. Because we know Smith will be fantastic in that and we don't need others confusing people. Lucas Logic *cringe* Because Will Smith is such an acting powerhouse when playing it cool and reserved.
No.42193
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42194
>>42190
WB is so fucking stupid.
No.42194
T4 was here
>>42193
And thats why Disney/Marvle is laughing at them all the way to the bank.
No.42195
Anonymous
Replies:>>42202
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>>42190
Right, as if the current Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl aren't going to confuse enough people as it is? I honestly don't understand. I like how Marvel treats the MCU and each of the various cartoon series as other worlds with different numbers to designate which ones belong in separate continuities. Maybe DC should take a page out of that?
No.42202
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42195
DC invented that, literally they were the first to do it, it's still what they do.

WB is just too fucking stupid to understand that.
No.42230
Anonymous
Replies:>>42231
Mark Hamill might just be the greatest supervillain actor of our time.
No.42231
Anonymous
Replies:>>42232
>>42230
I do enjoy how the villains in this series just roll with it. They lose, there is always next time. Some nice old school comic feels.
No.42232
Anonymous
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>>42231
It is good that this show is moving towards the same kind of relationship that this bit summed up.
No.42233
Anonymous
>>42232

Yea with Flash setting up the "no killing" rule for the rogues.
No.42235
Anonymous
Heh Hamill had his hair Luke style at the start of it. If it hadn't been for the accident trashing his face he'd possibly been another of those youthful looking actors even now.
No.42249
Anonymous
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Everything above the nose is perfect, but yeah I still couldn't help laughing.
No.42252
Anonymous
Replies:>>42253
>>42249
I think my big problem is his chin is too pointy. Needs a much stronger jawline.
No.42253
Anonymous
>>42252
Yeah, it's kind of like an inverse Conehead.

Or an ice-cream cone!
No.42254
Anonymous
Replies:>>42257
>>42249
He would have made a better fit for Victor Fries IMO.
No.42257
Anonymous
>>42254
I agree with that coloring in that poster. Wonder if they are going to give him cancer from the "Space Rocks"
No.42261
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42262
>>42249
In a world where the TV series exists I can't even imagine how anyone could actually want to pay money for this.
No.42262
Anonymous
>>42261
Warner Bros/DC could really set up a nice TV Justice League, etc. But they want that Avengers money.
No.42263
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42264
A friend just helped me realize HOW FUCKING TERRIBLE the DC movieverse will be, they are based on the success of a series of films not included in the franchise and whose break out movie received a lukewarm reception.
No.42264
Anonymous
Replies:>>42265
>>42263
I think the biggest thing hampering Man of Steel was the staff. Snyder is a good cinematographer but a mediocre director and Goyer is just awful, so Batman v Superman's already off to a decent start by replacing Goyer.

DC doesn't need to achieve the success of the MCU and in all honesty they really shouldn't bother trying since most of that pie's already long eaten. As long DC keeps its expections reasonable and the films are just competent enough to gain a niche and hold on, they'll be in a stable position once Marvel's luster wears off, assuming that's not the result of a global loss of interest in hero movies.
No.42265
Anonymous
>>42264
WB has already made too many terrible decisions at this point over the TV shows and general casting. I've got my expectations low at this point.
No.42266
Anonymous
Think they'll burn it all to the ground when the movies come out to keep people from being confused?
No.42267
Anonymous
>>42266
Given their other antics, I wouldn't put it past them; I don't expect it, though.
No.42268
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42270
>>42266
If they don't then BOY, the movieverse will look REAL embarrassing by contrast.
No.42270
Anonymous
>>42268
Its continually dark and broody bullshit compared to the brighter television shows.
No.42288
Jumpman
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https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/585961520955203584/photo/1
No.42300
Anonymous
>>42288
It's... the cast at a reading. Not in costume. Boooooorrrring.
No.42303
Anonymous
>>42288
Where's Jared Leto? And yeah this doesn't really tell us anything other than a chance to see some of the less prominent actors who might be showing up.
No.42304
Jumpman
>Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are working behind the scenes to develop a story for Warner Bros.’ big-screen version of the DC Comic-based superhero The Flash. They are currently working on a treatment for the studio about the superhero, whose super speed allows him to seemingly break the speed of light and time travel. The character, whose origins began in 1940, have been part of the Justice League at DC Comics and has been given small-screen and feature treatments before, but with Lord and Miller on the case, The Flash will take on a totally different dimension.

>Whether they decide to direct is still up in the air. They have not, as yet, chosen their next project. Together they have directed some of the most successful movies at the box office, including Warner Bros.’ animated monster The Lego Movie which was as much as a creative hit as it was at the box office. That one grossed $468.7M worldwide and spawned a spinoff and sequel, which Lord and Miller are both involved with. Specifically, The Lego Batman Movie and The Lego sequel.

http://deadline.com/2015/04/the-flash-superhero-movie-lord-miller-warner-bros-1201407459/

The perfect character for those two.
No.42334
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42342
DC movies are extra embarrassing now, not because of The Flash or Arrow but because Daredevil is better at their own tone than even the Nolan movies which were full of techno nonsense.
No.42342
Anonymous
>>42334
Just because everything is super unsaturated looking doesn't mean they'll necessarily actually go the grimdark Nolan route. I'm going to wait and see before I judge, although I'll admit that Daredevil's already won in the cinematography department.
No.42362
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>42363
>>42361

I’d love to see a Marvel equivalent some day, but I know that ain’t gonna happen.
No.42363
Anonymous
Replies:>>42365
>>42362
Yea they really need a TV presence that AoS has run from largely. Though they've got plenty of stand ins they could use for some street level stuff. Heck they've even got their own Batman they could do something with if they cared about Moony.
No.42365
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42363
Actually that's the whole point of the Netflix stuff, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
No.42381
Anonymous
>>42380
Wow, it's... nothing.
No.42382
Anonymous
>>42380
The nose on the Batman cowl looks goofy as fuck without someone's head under it.
No.42383
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42384
>>42380
Goddamn I forgot how fucking AWFUL that Superman symbol was.
No.42384
Anonymous
>>42383
You know how Superman's main aesthetic is represented by Art Deco?
That crest is so art noveau.
Its

literally

the opposite.
No.42388
T4 was here
>>42361
Aw man that was awesome.
No.42391
Jumpman
https://twitter.com/MuDragon/status/588781085946937344

Leak.
No.42393
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42391
yeesh, forget desaturated it's black and blue exclusively.
No.42395
Anonymous
Replies:>>42396
>>42391
Doesn't exist anymore.
No.42396
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42395
It was literally nothing.
No.42400
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>42404
Have you mocked the Batman v Superman trailer?

You will.
No.42404
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42405
>>42400
It's a special kind of bad where it is both nothing and terrible.
No.42405
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42404

As @The_MovieBob put it on Twitter:

>If it feels appropriate to lay the parody-song from THE LEGO MOVIE over your Batman trailer, its a bad trailer
No.42406
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42407
Like they say Superman is in this but it's so dark he was almost invisible except for damage he was causing.
No.42407
Anonymous
>>42406
So dark and defeated before the move even starts. Really what is the point if everyone is scared and fears Superman, and so does Batman.

Superman Animated Series did it without being so gloomy.

I can think of something better. Both of them are talking it out with Bruce having none of it and they get attacked either by Military or Lex backed by the government to handle "The Alien and The Vigilante." One of them gets TKO'd and they are taken from the battle by the other away for recovery.

Thinking either Bruce getting taken back to the Kent farm and waking up in Clark's old room with Clark asleep in a chair across from him.

Or Clark waking up on Wayne Manor just as Alfred finishes up some cleaning of his bandages and then makes his way down to the dining room to meet with Bruce.
No.42409
Anonymous
Replies:>>42421
Link to trailer? I want to see it for myself.
No.42418
The Sneaky Tiki
Oh, I guess Arsenal is apparently straight up off the show.

I hope they give his costume to someone else, it's the best in the series.
No.42421
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42409

You're in luck. WB apparently figured out they couldn't keep the camrip of the trailer off the 'Net, so they just went ahead and officially released it.

//youtube.com/watch?v=IwfUnkBfdZ4youtube thumb
No.42422
Anonymous
Replies:>>42423
http://pagesix.com/2015/04/17/affleck-demanded-slave-owner-ancestor-be-censored-out-of-pbs-show-sony-emails/?_ga=1.252781513.1949759189.1423347254

So if he'd just left it has part of his family history would it be as big a joke as it will end up being.
No.42423
Anonymous
Replies:>>42425
>>42422
What a baby. Only the most extreme polemicists would genuinely view that as a reason to hold a grudge against their descendants.
No.42424
Anonymous
>>42421
Concerns about the usage of a lot of Dark Knight. A lot of that was about the collapse of their friendship and Clark being a puppet of the government and the nasty crap they were doing to other heroes. So I'm having a hard time seeing the light at the end of this tunnel that leads to the JL.
No.42425
Anonymous
Replies:>>42427
>>42423
You forget the popularity of sites like Yourfaceisproblematic. Although thankfully that one became so much of a laughingstock among sane people that even the more... enthusiastic social justice bloggers eventually caved and admitted to themselves that it's a landfill of cherrypicking and quote mining.
No.42426
Anonymous
Replies:>>42428
>>42421
Did they at least preface it with a joke like the Avengers did with "Dammit HYDRA"?
No.42427
Anonymous
>>42425
*Yourfaveisproblematic
Whoops. Although I'd laugh if there was such an imitation site like that.
No.42428
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>42429
>>42426

>implying DC/WB has that much of a sense of humor or wants that kind of sense of humor associated with BvS:DoJ
No.42429
Anonymous
>>42428
Which is a shame because that would make a great Lex Propaganda reel.
No.42430
Anonymous
>>42421
Literally nothing is selling me on this movie.
Its a shame.
No.42431
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42432
It's so hard to believe that they would make a franchise literally on the basis of "No fun allowed."
No.42432
Anonymous
Replies:>>42433
>>42431
I'm hoping it's just Snyder and the other heroes will have directors willing to lighten up.
No.42433
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42432
They already been very, very clear that this is the across the board tone of all the movies.
No.42434
Anonymous
Replies:>>42435
>>42433
Running in the opposite direction so they can be a clear difference from Marvel.
No.42435
Anonymous
>>42434
Apparently that includes being any good.
No.42436
Anonymous
>>42433
Except for Shazam, apparently.
No.42437
Jumpman
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No.42438
Anonymous
Replies:>>42442
>>42437
I know it's actually a real thing but Bat's new armor looks jank as fuck.
No.42442
Anonymous
Replies:>>42444
>>42438
Well its based of a suit that is as much for battling Supes as keeping all of Bruce's insides on the inside. Its a really accurate version from DKR which seems kinda out a place with everything else.
No.42444
Anonymous
Replies:>>42447
>>42442
That's what I mean. I know it's accurate, but sometimes being overly literal in translating designs to film isn't a good thing.
No.42447
Anonymous
>>42444
Especially when its the only thing? I mean where is Ghost Regan telling Superman to go put an end to the invigilate.
No.42488
Jumpman
>In a recent interview, The Avengers: Age of Ultron director confirmed that he saw the Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice trailer last week. Expressing his giddy excitement, Whedon said that he can’t wait to see DC’s biggest icons clash on the big screen for the first-time ever.

>“I found [the trailer for ‘Batman v Superman’] interesting,” Whedon told Yahoo Movies, “Because they’re bringing up a lot of issues that we bring up in ‘Age of Ultron’ and I think it’s inevitable. People with power, who are good, do not always agree and it makes perfect sense for me that [Batman and Superman] would fight,” Whedon told Yahoo Movies. ”And besides… Batman and Superman are gonna fight! I’m so excited! I’m so excited!”

http://comicbook.com/2015/04/22/joss-whedon-is-super-excited-for-batman-v-superman/

I don't get the criticism of Batman and Superman not getting along either, as we all know they're going to bury the hatchet at the end. (Gotta shake hands before Justice League comes out).
No.42501
Anonymous
http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/04/22/superman-the-flash-season-2-tom-welling-smallville/

Haha. Yes, YES!


Seriously though, If CBSupergirl is meant to be in continuity with Flash and Arrow, they WOULD need a Superman.
No.42502
Anonymous
>>42501
I still see it being shifted over to CW at some point. There just isn't enough of that kinda stuff on CBS to support it. That being Zero.
No.42503
Anonymous
>>42501
Nice. Never watched much of Smallville but from what I heard it was pretty good. Also they managed to squeeze in my nigga Bart Allen.
No.42513
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42514
I think I've become Jumpman when it comes to DC, I can't stop avidly hating 90% of it.
No.42514
Jumpman
Replies:>>42517
>>42513
With all due respect, I don't think my criticism of Marvel Studios ever gets as heated or personal as you arguments against DC.

Granted, I acknowledge that I'm a critical person, which becomes more apparent when disusing generally loved things (Marvel films, Adventure Times, Nintendo, a fourth thing...).
No.42517
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42514
Yeah I'm gonna take a step back all things DC movie and comic, it pisses me off too much, I'll only talk about the TV series stuff because of how much I enjoy it.

I don't think anyone cares enough about Adventure Time anymore to rebut you like they used to.
No.42519
Anonymous
Replies:>>42520
At least Tiki's reasons for it sound like he's upset because he's seeing something he genuinely loves or wants to love go to shit even if it's over stupid or petty reasons. Whereas Jumpman is obsessive or just tsundere about hating certain things to the point that he combs for reasons to shittalk them and can only enjoy other things with respect to their ability to make that first thing look bad in comparison.
No.42520
Jumpman
>>42519
>Whereas Jumpman is obsessive or just tsundere about hating certain things

BAKA!
No.42528
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>42545
“Superman should fly in blue skies, not grey ones.”

//youtube.com/watch?v=Du-eYiD9OfMyoutube thumb
No.42545
Anonymous
>>42528
http://furiousfanboys.com/2015/04/viral-video-lies-about-how-man-of-steel-really-looks/

That video is a load of rubbish.
No.42546
Anonymous
Replies:>>42547
>>42545
You're right. Man of Steel was actually BRIGHT and COLOURFUL and definitely FULL OF LIFE.
Of course that video's full of rubbyish! MoS was in colour already!
No.42547
Anonymous
>>42546
I'm not saying Man of Steel couldn't have benefited from a brighter palette (it wouldn't have been enough to salvage the movie anyway), but intentionally darkening the footage to make the edit look better reeks of dishonesty.
No.42551
Anonymous
>>42545
Aside from the egregious first shot mentioned there most of the darkening doesn't worsen my opinion of the visuals in MoS that much further than it already is.
No.42552
Anonymous
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/338485-first-look-at-jared-leto-as-the-joker-in-suicide-squad#/slide/1

Your clown prince of crime.
No.42553
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42552

…oi.
No.42554
Anonymous
Replies:>>42558
>>42552
Dammit Warner Bros. Restraint, have you heard of it.
No.42555
Anonymous
>>42552
Mostly looks like Rayon with a dye job so far. I'll wait and see but it's already looking better than Luthorberg so far. It looks kind of comical, but I think that contrast with the grimdarkness the other DC characters seem to be going for actually will work pretty well in his favor.
No.42557
Jumpman
>>42552
Maybe it's because I'm to preoccupied about the Love Live movie right now, but I'm indifferent about the look. Neither love or hate it. Will judge when I actually see his performance.

I think I've seen this type of design before, but the tattoo look is common, so maybe that's it.
No.42558
Anonymous
>>42554
The tattoos are far too much, but I like the false teeth. It's a nice way of showing he has a history with Batman.
No.42559
Anonymous
>>42552
Looks really goofy but I don't hate it. So far I'm already preferring it to Ledger Joker when the first pics came out.
No.42560
Anonymous
>>42552
A thought I have on this is the difference between looking dangerous and being dangerous
No.42561
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42552
It's the "damaged" head tattoo that is JUST a little too much, drop that one and it's a pretty solid re-envisioning of Joker as a prisoner, the disposable neoprene glove in particular a nice touch.
No.42562
Anonymous
The tats make me think of the Joker in Frank Miller's All Stars Batman and Robin, to the point I wonder if it was an influence.
No.42563
Anonymous
Replies:>>42564
>>42552
This doesn't look like the Joker, it looks like a high level Joker goon, or one of the Jokerz from Batman Beyond.
No.42564
Anonymous
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>>42563
The Joker has looked like a lot of things. I feel like Leto's appearance still looks a little closer to the most common comic incarnations of him than any previous actor has.
No.42566
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42567
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The general public is taking this much harder than comic folk oddly enough.
No.42567
Jumpman
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>>42566
Comic folks have seen worse.

Although, I think No-Face Joker was embraced more fondly by the public than Blink 182 drummer Joker.

I don't know. Whether you love or hate this design, I think it's silly to demand purple suit Joker when we had that version for two films. (Well, three counting the West flick).
No.42568
The Sneaky Tiki
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>>42567
I was always big on the slick surgical Zurr-En-Arrh Joker as a REALLY intimidating Joker.
No.42569
T4 was here
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I dont mind crazy rasta Joker from THE batman.
No.42570
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42567

>I think it's silly to demand purple suit Joker when we had that version for [three] films.

I don’t think anyone was demanding he look exactly like Ledger, Nicholson, or even Romero. But this reeks of some out-of-touch film exec’s idea of what ‘edgy’ looks like. The tattoo on Leto!Joker’s forehead makes me think this design was an idea on the level of ‘Spider-Man should be a humble-bragging EDM-loving dudebro’ that ultimately didn’t get rejected somewhere down the line.
No.42571
Anonymous
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Welp.
No.42572
Anonymous
>>42571
So they were gauging fan interest. Not clever. But that's good!
No.42573
Jumpman
>>42571
Never heard of the site and I haven't seen any well-known site report the same. People on Twitter are asking for a source, too.
No.42574
Anonymous
>>42567
>I think it's silly to demand purple suit Joker
That's not what I'm seeing here or anywhere people have been criticizing it on. Most of the complaints revolve around the tattoos or looking too edgy.
No.42575
Anonymous
//youtube.com/watch?v=LPJ8b7zwa98youtube thumb
Wow, people are really upset about those tattoos. I agree they look pretty awful but I was expecting Joker to have them covered up for most of the movie so it's not something that bothered me. I'm really hoping they do something about it in the final version, because Suicide Squad is the only DC movie I'm still looking forward to at this point and goddamnit I don't want the hype to die for that too.
No.42576
Anonymous
Though I'm still kinda worried, Will Smith and dramatic acting aren't the best combination. Playing a really serious hitman vs others that are supposed to be crazy. He seems to be weakest when he's playing a straight man.
No.42577
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
Replies:>>42578
>>42571

Not really gonna believe that until I hear it from an official source -- or at least a source with a shitload more credibility (e.g. Variety, Latino Review).

I’d like to hope this was just a huge focus group thing that WB thinly-veiled as a “celebration of The Joker” so WB can see how fucking stupid that look would really be…but I don’t trust to hope when it comes to Hollywood.
No.42578
Anonymous
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>>42577
>Latino Review
>credibility
Though you're right, I've never even heard of these guys.
No.42579
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42578

They still have more credibility than this no-name outfit.
No.42580
Anonymous
>>42578
>never even heard of these guys.
>"I get my movie news from Polygon and Slashfilm!"
No.42592
Anonymous
Replies:>>42593
I guess there's still Guillermo del Toro's DC movie to look forward to?
No.42593
Jumpman
Replies:>>42595
>>42592
Yeah, right after Silent Hills, the live action Hulk series, the Adventures of Pinocchio and Pacific Rim 2
No.42595
Anonymous
Replies:>>42596
>>42593
Well Silent Hills is dead so the wait will be a bit shorter.
No.42596
Anonymous
Replies:>>42597
>>42595
Was there ever any source? I don't know if Del Toro is the kind of guy to refer to himself as "greasy heart".
No.42597
Anonymous
Replies:>>42598
>>42596
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/27846/article/silent-hills-not-going-to-happen-confirms-guillermo-del-toro-pt-already-getting-delisted/
Haven't seen anything to verify it but sounds pretty legit.
No.42598
Anonymous
>>42597
Yea its not cancelled but without Fox Engine, Del Toro, and Kojima I don't think many really give a damn.
No.42600
Anonymous
Replies:>>42601
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No.42601
Anonymous
>>42600
CG, suit, or a mix of both?
No.42602
Anonymous
Replies:>>42603
>>42601
that looks like some really fuzzy fur. Might be some Animatronics thrown in as well.
No.42603
Anonymous
>>42601
>>42602
Hard to tell really from the resolution.
No.42604
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42605
>>42601
Grodd is pure CG, they don't have money for suit, but they keep him in dark places so it's not too jank.
No.42605
Anonymous
>>42604
Yeah his chest looks way too smooth and shiny to be natural.
No.42612
Anonymous
http://gerryconway.tumblr.com/post/117619743363/who-created-caitlin-snow-on-theflash-according

Bring back Jeanette Kahn!
No.42614
Anonymous
>>42612
Do DC threads have their own Jumpman now? Although wow, that's still really fucked up.
No.42615
Anonymous
Replies:>>42616
>>42612
DC has become an increasingly backstabbing ass in their attempt to keep all their eggs to themselves while punching them out of the gooses that lay them.
No.42616
Anonymous
Replies:>>42617
>>42615
You sure it's DC and not the WB management behind them?
No.42617
Anonymous
>>42616
Unsure but you may be right. This could be WB now actually paying attention to the fact they own DC, doesn't look like a good thing. But this does sound he the scummy moves they've been doing to creators for a while now.
No.42619
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42620
Holy Shit Titans sounds AWFUL
No.42620
Anonymous
>>42619
You mean Blackbirds now?
No.42621
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://badassdigest.com/2015/04/29/crisis-on-infinite-dc-movie-plans

>Warner Bros has learned the wrong lesson from Marvel's success - they're chasing a shared universe, but they don't have a Kevin Feige overseeing it all. That is vital; Marvel Studios is producer-driven, and it allows the films to work together and for the entire system to move like a machine. Speaking to THR a WB insider called the DC Movieverse plan 'filmmaker-driven,' which is clearly a dig at what many see as a samey quality to the Marvel films. That's a nice concept, but the reality is that the filmmakers all need a centralized person (or persons) to lean on when the universe is shared.

>Look at Star Wars - that's shaping up to be a 'filmmaker-driven' shared universe, but everybody answers to the Lucasfilm Story Group, who coordinate everything and make sure all the films fit together and work towards a common goal. This is what WB is missing.
No.42622
Anonymous
Replies:>>42626
>>42621
Ugh, even if there wasn't this problem Zack Snyder has a very mixed record as a director and Man of Steel showed he's not ready to lead the DCCU. And I shouldn't need to explain why Geoff Johns is not qualified to be their head either. These guys are sabotaging their own brand when they should've just played the tortoise vs the hare and waited for the Marvel luster to fade a little before ramping up.
No.42623
T4 was here
Replies:>>42624
WHY DO ALL THESE FUCKING WOMEN HAVE A HATE ON FOR LYING!
Gah.
No.42624
Anonymous
Replies:>>42625
>>42623
What the hell are you talking about?
No.42625
T4 was here
>>42624
I just watch Who is Harrison Wells and like the first thing Caitlin says is "you want me to lie" and is then all butthurt about it for most of the episode.

And after the Isis butthurt sub-plot, fucking Thea Queen and all other Arrow characters I am so fucking sick of this cheap bullshit drama.

Sure Caitlin have the right to not be on board with the rest of them but ofcoure its the having to lie that makes her not want to do it.
*sigh*
No.42626
Anonymous
Replies:>>42629
>>42622
Yea they should have waited a few more years before going into this stuff with Batman and Superman. I mean its not that far off that Marvel would be winding down back to single hero pictures for a while while Star Wars picked up steam.

Course I also feel Rises would have been a much better introduction movie for a new Batman and then start them off on their own with Superman still having solo films for at least another two films.

Its interesting how much Coulson and Fury are good symbols for how the Marvel films work together. I think they need something like that, though that might be too much "fun".

DCTV is building strength and fun that I think they could use.
No.42627
Anonymous
>>42621
tl:dr - If Green Lantern had been successful, Greg Berlanti could have been DC's Kevin Feige?
No.42628
Anonymous
>>42627

Could be, problem is DC Cinematic is so damned phobic about putting in "silly comic" stuff that they end up making things much stupider than if they'd just gone with that in the first place. "CGI suit will look much cooler than some silly spandex version."
No.42629
Anonymous
>>42626
>DCTV is building strength and fun that I think they could use.
Flash maybe but Arrow's been in a state of freefall for a while, some of it a direct a result of the movies.
No.42630
Anonymous
>>42629

A good example of how the movie side of things don't understand how to make it work. Kinda like the push me pull you that Marvel had with Whedon which made things less than they could be for them.
No.42631
Anonymous
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/superman-batman-dcs-real-battle-792190
No.42632
Anonymous
>>42627
It's really too bad. As everyone's saying the DC reps are taking entirely the wrong message from that movie's failure. Green Lantern didn't do bad because it was too lighthearted, it did bad because it was just plain bad (hopefully Deadpool will be good proof of that). Likewise TDK isn't good because of its srsbzns, that's just a side effect of Nolan's style. Unfortunately Snyder and all the other non-Nolan people don't seem to understand that, hence the total mess Man of Steel ended up being. As a Marvel/DC idort it really sucks seeing them flounder like this.
No.42653
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42629
Arrow will be saved by the third series, it's really suffered from WB dictates and needing more expanded universe to survive.
No.42707
Jumpman
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https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/595000883420749824
No.42708
Anonymous
Replies:>>42718
>>42707
Not bad, Big Will better get the Mask at some point, like his wrist guns. Why do I have the feeling the movie about villains is going to be less grim than BvS.
No.42709
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>42707

…eh. At least Deadshot and Harley look okay-ish.
No.42710
Anonymous
Replies:>>42725
>>42707
2grimdark4me.
Harley and Willshot look pretty good.
Katana looks horrid though.
No.42711
Anonymous
So are they going after the Joker? Some kinda Expendables thing going on. Hopefully Harley is signing on because she's tired of his bullshit and its not a incoming Heelturn that gets a few of them killed. I like Redeemed Harley. One of the best things is when she's like that.
No.42712
Anonymous
>>42707
Any time I see someone whining about the Winter Soldier not wearing a domino mask in his movie, I want to show them that woman at the bottom.
No.42713
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42707
My brain went to "Man, this person put a lot of mods on TF2."
No.42714
Anonymous
Replies:>>42715
>>42707
June Moone looks like a homeless drug addict.
No.42715
Anonymous
Replies:>>42716
>>42714
Wait, that's supposed to be June Moone?
No.42716
Anonymous
>>42715
Yeah, the lady behind Katana is apparently Enchantress.

Also- Harley is clearly keeping up the tradition of costuming her like a straight up prostitute that the Arkham games started.
No.42717
Anonymous
>>42707
Don't feel particularly strong about it but it's not terrible which is a good start.
No.42718
Anonymous
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>>42708
No.42721
Jumpman
>>42718
His helmet is like a wiffle ball.
No.42722
Anonymous
Replies:>>42724
>>42707
It probably won't be so bad in motion but WIll Smith is the only one who actually looks cool. For some reason I feel like they would fit better in DC's television shows than their movies.
No.42723
Anonymous
>>42718
I really reallt REALLY hate to be that guy... but Deadshot's cyber eye thingie is in the wrong side
No.42724
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42736
>>42722
Don't insult DC's TV-verse, those costumes are light years ahead on these dirt stained rags.
No.42725
Anonymous
>>42710
>Katana looks horrid though.

Which is funny because she is the one person in that pic who looks the most like the comic counterpart.
No.42726
T4 was here
>>42707
So is Joker on that pic or not, cant tell...
No.42736
Anonymous
>>42724
A lot of the costumes in DC's TV shows look kinda cheap IMO. Sorry.
No.42745
Anonymous
>>42736
Not as bad as Daredevil's suit.
No.42749
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42736
They are, like I said, light years ahead.
No.42794
Jumpman
After coming home from Rifftrax: The Room, I remembered that they have yet to riff on Man of Steel. Which is amazing to me, because it would be the perfect film to riff.

The Dark Knight riff was hilarious.

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No.42796
Anonymous
Replies:>>42797
Is it just me, or is /co/ being weirdly defensive of all these absolutely terrible DC design decisions? Is it /co/ just being contrarian? Or is there a surplus of individuals visiting /co/ who actually like this aesthetic compared to the general population?
No.42797
Anonymous
>>42796
People might actually have different opinions you know. And I think some of the negativity about the designs, while justified, is a little pessimistic. Although at this point it's really hard to say with a straight face that DC is truly handling the subject matter better than Marvel, unless you're that blind of a brand loyalty.
No.42803
Anonymous
http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/constantine/243899/constantine-season-2-news-still-alive

Constantine's second season is "still alive" but there's little chance for it to appear on the Fall schedule.
No.42804
Anonymous
>>42803
Well they did stop production. It will take a awhile to get it all going again.
No.42817
Jumpman
Replies:>>42818
>>42803
And now it's dead.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/08/constantine-officially-canceled-nbc?hootPostID=26ba602bce17576588e8d98a8f8850a6

>Yet as with so many shows lately, the network ax isn't necessarily the end of the line. We hear Warner Bros. is shopping the DC Comics-based series to other potential outlets and is hopeful about finding the show a new home.

Wasn't Syfy a possible home mentioned?
No.42818
Anonymous
Replies:>>42819
>>42817
Shame. It was never great but at the same time the showrunners seem like they were willing to learn from their mistakes.
No.42819
Jumpman
>>42818
And honestly, what the fuck else does NBC have? Right now Constantine is trending on Twitter. That's more recognition from the public than NBC usually gets.

In fairness, I assume the show's budget played a part in the cancellation. From what I hear, Hannibal is cheap (or, cheaper than expected) to produce. So it's able to get a third season, despite terrible ratings.
No.42822
Anonymous
I would've thought Hannibal was more popular than that considering all the fangirls and all the yaoi it generates, unless they're the only ones actually watching it at this point.
No.42826
Jumpman
Replies:>>42834
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Also Lucifer got picked up for a season.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=120317
No.42834
Anonymous
>>42826
There's something very appropriate about the idea of a series about Lucifer being a guilty pleasure.
No.42836
Anonymous
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XKsaYUSlv3rLBnhH5DOyA

An entire channel devoted to "proving" that Man of Steel was a good movie.
No.42837
Anonymous
http://comicbook.com/2015/05/09/arrows-stephen-amell-says-any-dc-tv-show-could-crossover-reveals/

Constantine's show might be dead, but he may still get a guest appearance on Arrow. Matt Ryan is perfect for the part, and Arrow could really use some of the humor he would bring.
No.42861
Anonymous
>>42860
Some of it was kind of cringeworthy so I'm hoping they're just playing up the camp and will tone it down in for the actual show. I like the idea of giving Kara a sister, but I'm really not digging what they've done with Jimmy's character (and I'm not referring to the part about him being black).
No.42862
Anonymous
Replies:>>42863
They made him a Super Alpha world famous world photographer. Kinda kills part of his everyman vibe making the apex of success. Also makes a development arc that isn't related to Kara very unlikely.
No.42863
Anonymous
>>42862
Exactly. This is everything NOT to do when it comes to adapting characters properly, especially more established ones like Jimmy.
No.42864
Anonymous
Replies:>>42865
>>42860
I liked this, except for a) the over exposition thing that honestly kinda also exists in Flash (and I assume Arrow) which will hopefully even out forwards from the pilot.

and b) Jimmy Olsen not acting at all like Jimmy Olsen, and not even letting people CALL HIM Jimmy Olsen. There's no reason for him to be Jimmy Olsen if they aren't going to write him as Jimmy Olsen. This isn't like some of the character shifts from Flash or Arrow (like say, Felicity being a young love interest, or Vibe not sucking) it's a super well defined character having all of their main personality traits eliminated.
No.42865
Anonymous
Replies:>>42866
>>42864
They did that with Man of Steel too didn't they? What did poor Jimmy do to get flushed from DC like this? Was it because that Jimmy was too strong a connection to the Blue Boy Scout they also have a problem with?
No.42866
Anonymous
Replies:>>42867
>>42865
He's too Superman-y. A Silver Age relic, or something like that.
No.42867
Anonymous
>>42866
Bet we hear that in interviews before the release. "own interpretation, stronge, more cconfident" crap like that.
No.42868
Anonymous
I don't hate James Olsen. Its a take on a character, not a performance based on a pre-existing one.
Hell, there's little I dislike about this. Maybe the trailer showed a little too much, but the overall tone actually feels like a modern day version of the Dick Donner film, oddly enough.

I'm looking forward to it, anyway.
No.42870
Anonymous
Replies:>>42871
>>42860
The tone kind of annoys me. Nothing wrong with superheroes kicking ass and being feminine at the same time, but I feel like it pours on the chick flick vibes too heavily, at least early on.
No.42871
Anonymous
Replies:>>42872
>>42870
Would you say its an oversaturated market?
No.42872
Anonymous
>>42871
More that it comes uncomfortably close to that one joke trailer SNL did about the Black Widow.
No.42874
Anonymous
Replies:>>42876
>>42872
Yeah, this, that was my first thought "it's like that Black Widow thing in SNL, only for real".
No.42875
The Sneaky Tiki
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It's Jimmy Olsen post Superman, becoming an award winning ultra cool guy after being inspired by Superman is how Jimmy develops because he's awesome, it's mainly just dissonance with his actor and unfamiliarity with stage of the character that rarely gets focused on.

I really like the cringe worthy gossipgirls style, AND I AM SO ON BOARD WITH CAT GRANT AS A CENTRAL CHARACTER.
No.42876
Jumpman
>>42872
>>42874
It definitely got too close to comfort with that, especially with Supergirl crying after the military guy tells her off. But, overall, I thought it was a nice trailer.
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Jumpman
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No.42878
T4 was here
>>42860
Not for me, but still good for what it is.
No.42881
Anonymous
>>42875
If that is what comes up this that will be cool. "He inspired me to take risks and become the man I wanted to be." Meaning I really hope it is and they didn't just Max Stat him because they wanted someone for Kara to swoon over.
No.42882
Anonymous
http://t.co/xOSoadFDnk

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
No.42883
Anonymous
>>42875
Even in his peak actualized period, running around as a spy named Mr Action... Jimmy Olsen was still kind of a dork.
No.42884
Anonymous
>>42882
Damn just showing how the whole super hero team thing is done. I do worry Warner Bros nuking this as they attempt to build up League stuff.
No.42885
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42882
IT'S EVERYTHING I WANTED
No.42886
Anonymous
Replies:>>42890
>>42882
Why can't this just be the DC movieverse.
No.42887
T4 was here
>>42882
>http://t.co/xOSoadFDnk
All my yes!
No.42888
Anonymous
>>42882
>http://t.co/xOSoadFDnk
I'm not in this for the superhero teamup as much as I am for a show with Captain Cold as a protagonist, but it looks fun.
No.42889
Anonymous
>>42882
I don't even watch any of these shows but this looks infinitely more interesting than any of the movies.
No.42890
Anonymous
Replies:>>42892
>>42886
Because Green Lantern bombed.

WHAT FOOLS WE WERE! SUCH GLORIES COULD HAVE BEEN OURS!
No.42892
Anonymous
>>42890
For all of Man of Steel's faults, it's a better first step for the DCCU than Green Lantern would have been. Speaking of both movies, did people talk about the casualties in Green Lantern as much as they did about the destruction in Man of Steel? It looks like Parallax had devoured half of Coast City by the time Hal finally showed up.
No.42894
Jumpman
Replies:>>42899
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No.42899
Anonymous
>>42894
Is Preacher part of the DCCU or is it a separate thing? Because the guy in it also plays Tony's dad in the Cap films and I'm pretty sure they have some sort of exclusivity contracts.
No.42902
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42903
>>42899
Completely separate universe.
No.42903
Anonymous
>>42899
>>42902
It would kinda have to, considering the subject matter and all.
No.42904
Anonymous
http://www.newsarama.com/24503-second-supergirl-trailer-shows-more-powers-raises-new-dctv-verse-questions.html
This second trailer tones down the chick flick-y vibes, but on the other hand it seems to have dialed up Kara's Shinji Ikari-ness in response.
No.42917
Jumpman
Replies:>>42920
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Well, fuck me. Didn't realize that was Rory.
No.42920
Anonymous
>>42917
He leveled up.
No.42928
Jumpman
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No.42929
Anonymous
Replies:>>42931
>>42928
"Yeah... where you're pointing the gun. That's where I want 'Damaged.' Great idea right!"
No.42931
Anonymous
>>42929
He actually does not seem to have the "damaged" tatt. Hmmm, perhaps that rumor claiming those tattoos were just for the photoshoot was true.
No.42933
Anonymous
>>42928
It's probably just the lighting but I am not liking the shade of green used for his hair. Seems kind of funny how after nothing but desaturated pic after desaturated pic we get COLOR! in the form of acid green.
No.42941
Anonymous
Replies:>>42944
http://www.slashfilm.com/barry-allen-flash-movie/

I'm satisfied enough with the TV series to not give a damn about what they do with the Flash movie, but it sounds like they need more time to figure out exactly what they want to do with the character.
No.42944
Anonymous
>>42941
Damnit, that's the stupidest thing. What is with DC's Barry obsession? They should've made the film version based off of Wally West to draw in all the fans of him from the 90s (and everything about the current New 52 version of him is terrible including the costume).
No.42945
The Sneaky Tiki
>>42944
DC wants to push Silver age because it's the most "iconic."
No.42946
Jumpman
>>42944
>>42945
I'm only worried about DC/WB using bland Hal Jordan as Green Lantern again, despite audiences rejecting him multiple times in live action and animation.
No.42947
Anonymous
>>42945
Except to a lot of the people in the young adults target audience age range, Wally West is the more iconic Flash than Barry.
No.42948
Jumpman
>>42947
All thanks to the Justice league cartoon. Same for Jon Stewart becoming THE Green Lantern to the public and everyone being confused when Bland Jordan was used for the movie.
No.42949
Anonymous
>>42948
Not necessarily, Kyle was the Lantern for me before Justice League brought in Stewart so he also has a fair shot at the movies as Stewart, who also had a problem with being boring in the cartoons at first. Wally West also has the benefit of not being dead at the time.
No.42955
Anonymous
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No.42957
Anonymous
Supergirl will fit well in the CW Verse.
No.42958
Anonymous
>>42955
Never noticed those red lines in her costume until now. Makes the whole thing look kinda cheap, but maybe it looks better in action.
No.42964
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
>>42944
>>42947
>>42948
At the risk of making a lot of people angry and exposing myself as a total comic book casual, I have to ask: What's the difference between Barry and Wally? From the not-comic book media I've consumed, they seem pretty similar. I had honestly forgotten that there were multiple Flashes until I read this thread. It's not like Wally's secret identity came up very often in the animated series (plus I think he had the same day job as TV Barry).
No.42965
Anonymous
Replies:>>42973
>>42964
Barry was a Silver Age Hero who sucked and everybody hated so they killed him, and Wally West was the best hero ever and my dad.

Barry is a dork, Wally is a legacy hero who works really hard to be the best he can and became a family man. Most people from the outside wouldn't really notice the difference a lot of the time.
No.42968
Anonymous
>>42964
Nothing, "Wally" is just how the Japanese say "Barry".
No.42969
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>42970
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The last times Hal was written well was before Emerald Twilight when he was basically "The best parts of Kirk and Picard, The Green Lantern."
No.42970
Anonymous
Replies:>>42971
>>42969
Speaking of Hal, what was up with the whole Arisia thing?
Who thought THAT was a good idea?
No.42971
Anonymous
>>42970
Someone who watches too much of the wrong kinds of anime, apparently.
No.42973
Anonymous
>>42964
Barry Allen was the Flash from 1956-1986. His book basically started the Silver Age of superheroes, and had tons of wacky, insane, fun ideas, and created important concepts like the DC multiverse. (Barry was actually the SECOND Flash, after Jay Garrick, who DC decided existed on an alternate Earth, and superspeed allowed them to meet each other) His book was pretty basic super-hero stuff, with Barry being motivated mostly by his own ethics, and a lot of the book had a Gee-Whiz SCIENCE! kind of feel to it, with sidebars explaining scientific phenomena and the like.

By the 80s, his book was somewhat waning in popularity compared to hits like New Teen Titans and Legion of Super-Heroes, and so they decided to cancel it after a long storyline where Barry got charged with manslaughter for killing the Reverse Flash.

Wally West was originally Kid Flash, Barry Allen's sidekick, who got his powers the exact same way Barry did. Barry was dating Iris West, Wally's aunt, and Wally was a huge fan of the Flash. After Barry died in Crisis on Infinite Earths (after the cancellation of his book) Wally decided to basically 'graduate' from being Kid Flash, to being THE Flash, and much of his series was about living up to the example of Barry Allen.

Eventually, DC decided to bring Barry back from the dead (because no one ever stays dead in comics) and Wally kind of disappeared, and then history got rewritten and there's a new Wally West who is never going to live up to the original. This is why >>42965 is so pissy. Barry basically came back and invalidated twenty years of Wally-as-Flash.

He's wrong about Barry being a bad character, because if Barry really did suck, Wally would also suck for looking up to a crappy character.
No.42974
Anonymous
DC seems intent on completely shitting all over Wally West, not only by going out of their way to erase him and his family from history but also because on top of just being plain awful the New 52 Wally West is a goddamn racist stereotype that erases any of the goodwill that could've been gotten from their rather hamfisted attempt at increasing diversity. And don't get me started on all the terrible stuff that's been going on with Bart Allen since Graduation Day.
No.42975
Anonymous
After that finale, the wait for season 2 is going to be aggravating as hell.
No.42991
Snes !v68zTeBMI.
>>42975
It figures the season would end the way it lived: making completely ridiculous scientific claims that still manage to be kind of epic.
No.42998
Anonymous
Replies:>>43033
So as per usual it looks like the Supergirl Pilot has been leaked.
No.43033
Anonymous
>>42998
So far, a better Superman movie than Man of Steel. Bit rushed but that is the nature of pilots.
No.43036
Jumpman
>When Warner Bros. pulled the plug in 2008 on Justice League Mortal, which George Miller wanted to shoot in Australia, the local industry lost a production that would have employed hundreds of crew and supporting actors.

>Director Ryan Unicomb and producers Aaron Cater and Steven Caldwell believe there is a fascinating story in the aborted superhero adventure, which they aim to chronicle in a feature-length documentary.

>Announced today, the doc has the working title Miller’s Justice League Mortal. It will seek to give an unbiased account of the project’s development, preproduction and cancellation, as well as the impact on the Australian film industry.

>The producers have enlisted film writer/author Maria Lewis to help develop the doc. The plan is to interview some of the cast and crew who would have worked on the film and gain access to never-before-seen artwork and costumes.

http://if.com.au/2015/05/25/article/Feature-doc-planned-on-aborted-superhero-pic/UXZFCYXBIZ.html
No.43037
The Sneaky Tiki
>>43036
Literally a documentary on the wasted potential that is every WB decision.
No.43043
Anonymous
Replies:>>43047
>>43036
>Justice League Mortal, which George Miller wanted to shoot in Australia
Oh, damn. But what the hell is with the "Mortal" tagline.
No.43047
Anonymous
>>43043
Turns out Miller's Justice League is the original source of "DO YOU BLEED"
No.43058
T4 was here
>>42975
Wow, thats a fucking cliffhanger.
So... Its coming back this fall or something, because thats how US TV work, right?

Atlest season 3 of Arrow will have to be on Netflix by then so I dont have to miss out of the start.
>>42955
*squeel!*
No.43074
The Sneaky Tiki
Replies:>>43075
Supergirl is really trying, waaaay too hard actually, it needs to sort out it's identity disorder, dial back Jimmy's cool, ditch that godawful Jimmy lite friend character, ditch the man of steel "you should let people die" nonsense, PUMP UP EVERYTHING TARGETED AT WOMEN, DEVIL WEAR PRADA PLUS 9000, do that and it's all good.

The villain subplot is...kinda out of place but is your main hook on keeping the male audience invested, the military stuff could be ditched but it was basically made entirely to be an extension of the villains stuff.
No.43075
Anonymous
>>43074
How well is this series actually doing with female demographics? Because speaking anecdotally it's a little too overtly "feminine" to the point of turning me off because of just how cliche and corny everything feels. When you alienate your target audience because you go too far in trying to appeal to them it kind of defeats the point.
No.43076
Anonymous
Replies:>>43080
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>>43075
>When you alienate your target audience because you go too far in trying to appeal to them
But that's impossible! Just gotta appeal to them more!
No.43080
Anonymous
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>>43076
Not them and I know you're talking shit, but I actually adore Senran Kagura exactly because they don't give a shit and just go all out.
No.43082
The Sneaky Tiki
>>43075
I'm not a female but everything about Cat Grant in this is awesome, she was the only one who had a girl power line that wasn't cringe worthy and was in fact one of the coolest lines in the show, that being her justification and naming of Supergirl.
No.43086
Anonymous
>>43080
Oh yeah, totally. SK's cool. I was just sayin it tongue-in-cheek outta luuuurve, no shit-talkin here.
No.43089
Anonymous
Replies:>>43090
>Clips emerging from the Suicide Squad shoot.

>Joker knocks down a woman (Harley?) and then urinates on her.

Classic.
No.43090
Anonymous
Replies:>>43091
>>43089
Whaaaaaat.
No.43091
Anonymous
Replies:>>43093
>>43090
Its speculation, Harley goes up to him and pull a gun. He backhands her to the ground and takes the gun. Footage from behind shows him widening his stance and his hands going in front of his pants. So speculation is he takes a piss on her. Though he could just be shoving the gun down in there.

But its a viable idea since this is going with "he's clearly an asshole" vibe with this joker with the suit, hair and flashy car.
No.43092
Anonymous
>>43080
>because they don't give a shit
SK fan here.
I think there's a big difference between not giving a shit, and giving a shit about what you're doing. And you can clearly see they give a shit about them doing them.
No.43093
Anonymous
Replies:>>43094
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>>43091
Could just be stance for the next shot but that hair smoothing and getting into that position. Real "asshole marking their place" vibe.
No.43094
Anonymous
>>43093
>"Jared, stick to the scri-- OH MY GOD, THAT'S NOT IN THE SCRIPT."
No.43101
Jumpman
Replies:>>43114
>James Wan has closed his deal to develop and direct Aquaman, Warner Bros.’ superhero movie that will star Jason Momoa and that is part of its DC Entertainment cinematic universe.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-wan-closes-deals-direct-799686

Furious 7 was the best superhero movie of 2015, so I'm okay with this.
No.43114
Anonymous
>>43101
>DC cinematic universe

Uggghhhhh. I'm getting kinda tired of superhero movies, now they're going to milk them even more.
No.43127
Jumpman
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/58791/20150608/wonder-woman-to-get-batman-v-superman-merchandise.htm

Here's one thing DC has over Marvel, at least.
No.43131
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
http://www.themarysue.com/constantine-dead/

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.
No.43216
Anonymous
>>43131
Fucks.
No.43231
The Sneaky Tiki
>>43131
Took surprisingly long.
No.43274
Anonymous
Replies:>>43280
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Guys, I recently watched the old Supergirl flick for the first time.

Make no mistake, the film's terrible, dreadful, a shitty mess... but dang, Helen Slater was a perfect cast, wasn't she? The right mix of cute, sexy, innocent, and badass. Plus, the Supergirl them Goldsmith composed for the character is (IMO of course) every bit as good, catchy and iconic-sounding as Williams' Superman theme. Such wasted potential, waht a shame.

... I-I am not alone in thinking this, r-right?
No.43280
Mr. Stone !zWb42fBPMM
>>43274

No. No, you are not.