Thread for Alice and things related to her, no containment thread obviously. Everything like art, greens, theories, discussion and whatnot, have a place for it, we'll see if it's needed
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A version of my original idea for a maid Alice, using the Tessa uniform. Personality-wise, she would get up to all sorts of crazy stuff in there. Depending on how possessed one wants Cyn to be at any given moment, there's a possibility for a Coalition of Chaos with her.
>>24600 I see it now, how the the torn spot from the flag makes it blue, I was wondering initially why it was only white and red drenched, but having seen the Drapeaux one I get it now. As always, very original concepts, and nice details bro! The body looks excellent in terms of proprtions, everything really (imo), the feet have unironically perfect shape, hands good, pose very nice. Thought you abandoned it, glad to see you went through with it. If you don't mind, what was the inspiration for this idea?
>>24601 Sweet as well, the maid uniform is a nic design, I was never sure wether it'd work with Alice's dark hair but it does. I wouldn't have dared drawing her with white lights either but it is more accurate no question, and was definitely the right choice seeing it now. Character design is absolutely one of your strengths you know that? Pose and everything is great in there as well, very nice to see such good new art of Alice!
>>24954 >thought you abandoned it I could've theoretically pulled it off in 1-2 days (like I did for >>24601) , but I ran into issues with getting the helmet and the lighting on the dress/apron the way I wanted. Then July/August was very busy and so completing this had to be squeezed in to that. >what was the inspiration "An Alice could've been maid for Bastille Day." That was not a typo, but was the post where I thought of it, in response to the idea that one of the July Alices would have to be for the Fourth. I'd wanted to do something with my old maid concept, the French maid style is well-known, there's tons of connections between the 4th and 14th of July, and so the idea immediately made sense.
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>>24962 The idea of bleaching her hair honestly didn't occur to me, because hair color was something they could change if they wanted to, and I guess I consider the color of her hair more important than its specific shape in establishing identity, especially with her head at an angle and her hair being blown back by onrushing air. The color of the eyes was just a software consequence of being a zombie drone, and so not something that could be changed. But, done.
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I find it funny how Alice has a black streak. but it's barely visible ever because the blue lighting makes her hall look almost completely black anyway
>>25058 Oooooooooooooo I never noticed, it's the part that goes from above her left (from her view) eye down and cover the right eyebrow/upper end of right eye right? Amazing detail discovery, thanks a lot! But yeah the difference is clearly visible in your image, it also explains why the hair on the right side of her face always has such a warm shine which shows it's brown, but the part directly over her eye doesn't look the same inspite of being way closer to the light source. Somehow it is a very cute feature to think about now
>>25033 >Ran into issues with the lighting the way I wanted >July/August was very busy Completely understandable and relatable, still amazing that you followed through with it, peak content imo. I remember having seen the 'maid' post back then, didn't know this sparked it. Now that you say it yes, the parallels are there. Didn't hear of french maid style, I assume it's the well known (Tessa's drones) one right? As always I'm gratefull for your good artpieces and original ideas, almost always I get ideas and ways to improve my own stuff from them. Hope there'll be more in the future, I know there will be, I will wait!
>>25049 >Main character package Unironically made me laugh when I first read it. Looks good too, I think the maid Alice I started once (pic rel, based on your design and an old December /co/ request of her polishing a Kentucky rifle) would have looked just like that, I didn't pay as much attention as you did. Being able to make such changes is very nice, one day I'll get myself digital as well, no more accidents, paper weardown and smears. >>25046 Thanks for doing that one! It does look good, better than it did in my head, I wouldn't have risked it myself before but maybe I'll do this one myself some time. >I guess I consider the color of her hair more important than its specific shape in establishing identity, Agreed
>>25208 By 'French Maid', I mean something with a long black dress and long white apron, like a 19th century domestic servant would've actually worn, not the fetish wear stuff it inspired that comes up if one searches for it. Tessa's uniform is closer to the cosplay/costume stuff than the actual uniforms used by maids.
>>25334 >You pull the trigger, but in your panic, the gun jerks to the side and the shot misses >The weird drone smiles even wider, her eyes narrowing >As you try to work the bolt, she lunges forward, grabbing the barrel and twisting the gun upward, breaking your grip >"You're plumb freezin', look how yer shiverin'. Can't even hit the broad side of a barn like that." >You try to shove her off, but she tosses your gun off to the side and pins you with her mechanical strength >"Now, now, calm down there, sweetheart. I ain't gonna kill ya." >Her face gets in close to your neck, her helmet pressing against your cheek >"But I'd be a liar if'n I said I don't bite," she whispers, each word hot against your skin, her tongue flicking out and slowly tracing a line up your neck
>>25058 I have drawn everything from that shot I was able to make out 100%, will see how much else I can find, maybe we'll finally find how exactly her hair looks that way
Was too late to add the blackstreak, has problems that I see just now but it was very good practice overall. Tested new editing on this one, hence it looks that "off"
>>25955 You did it! Just in time for the one-year anniversary of Alice. Wonderful use of lighting and shading and texturing to drive mood and atmosphere.
>>26002 Thanks a lot for the words! I wished I could have published much more for that special occasion, but seeing the progress and range of things I've been doing simultaneously it was just not possible without huge, regrettable decreases in on modelness and perspective-accuracy. Had I known work would be taking that much time this week I would have focused on just one or two but eh now I have time again at least. One of the advantages of using paper/real paint is detailled texturing happens almost by itself, I thought it looked messy until seeing the post and its digital appearance now, glad to hear you like her. >>25058 I do not know which anon you are but this very post of Alice little blackstreak made my day when I first saw it and restored my motivation completely, I doubt 8 will come close.
>Sentinel wore Beau's hat Which means they went back into the room once more However, Alice made it, the copium is eternal and infinite for now, things are set for everything now. 5 years bros
Before I forget it for tonight bros, I regretably missed most of the episode 6 watch they did (in the lead up to 8) and commented on in Glitch Inn Discord due to my PC being infernally slow and deciding Windows updates were a more pressing matter (and I have no recording, I'll see I find a way to record once they do tge ep6 behind the scenes stuff). What I'm on about is, during the doorscene, they said, quote >The animators literally just squished her head down, we will see that in the event So we will soon see more of the very exact nature of damage to her head. Something weighing heavy on my mind for alnost a year now, I'll adress it properly soonm Pic rel is clear evidence of what I meant long ago, you see hair on the left, pointing upwards, it's due to her helmet having been crushed, the oil is from the heatsink in the upper part of a WD's head. The important part is just how much of the actual head is intact, this is a (for me) pretty recent discovery but immensely relevant, look at picrel, you can see clear rounding showing not just the entire white part remaining untouched, but also nearly all of the screen until the angled slope towards the dronesnoot begins, meaning the Sentinel smashed basically just the upper half of Alice's heady helmet counted.
>>28973 Another part, PROVING the survival of the snout and structurally still intact lower head half (her jaws/the white part are unaffected) Any thoughts on this? I know it not mazzers much but it is still canon Alice, an aspect we can explore more and do our best to see what can be found before they reveal more officially. Sobering topic but since Alice's eternal szrvival is now official, nithing to prevent exploring everything right?
>>28982 Watch the episode. Heads do not matter, especially if you have some sort of zombie/solver stuff going on. It's cores cores cores. If Alice's core is intact, there's a chance.
>>29005 Yeah yeah I watched it many times, almost 50 in 6's case. >If Alice's core is intact, there's a chance. Not just a chance, it IS confirmation she is still there. I mean we see the core is undamaged AND in control still (which just further confirms its intact, even active state), as Alice keeping her hands up even after the step proves. What the step did was most likely (say likely because the Sentinel step occured so far up her head that I can't 100% say it hit the computer, in any case it won't work right now due to bootloop/loss of heatsink/damage of parts close by, even if it smh got missed (which is technically possible, but unlikely))take out the central computer ( pic rel is outdated (from before cores were a thing, tho we now know they are in the chest) but I guess accurate enough for heads), which is probably pretty relevant to control the body, tho its function is honestly just speculative right now. Who knows, Zombie drones like Alice don't just have a dud failsafe system, the first time they 'die' removes all the programming restrictions anyways and the core (powered by a singularity, guess its main function was power source in the first place anyways, ZD scenarios are unwanted hence the failsafe) ends up in control, since everything else shuts down, which makes the vast personalities of Alice, Yeva and the others possible in the first place What I'm trying to say is, even tho we do not know what exactly causes ZDs personalities to be what they are in an accurate, proven, technical way, we know it stems from the cores, after 'death' the core itself starts the drone again, this is how every ZD comes back, with very varying timespans, we even have canon precedence that Drones with head damage (Cyn in 5) can come back, so even tho the Central Computer in the head is vital and were the 'brain' is for normie WDs(fro whom the core is in function nothin but powersource) ZDs can possibly given enough time come back even with Central Computer taken out, I say possibly since our only example is Cyn, mind however she didn't have AS yet when waking up (as I understand it), so it seems more likely than not. In the end Alice is confirmed alive as we all know here, the question just is, wether she can manage at some point to gain control. Technically it's somewhat nebulous, but given the Cyn precedence it should be possible. After all Alice's body is intact, she has the majority of her oil still (chest tank), secondary computer for movement is intact, the only hindrance is an uncertain timespan and the unclear effect the bootloop has in that state. It should be very possible for her to come back herself given enough time.
>>29493 Do you happen to know wether the behind the scenes event they rid a week ago contained anything about episode 6 and wether there is anything recorded of it anywhere?
>>29798 Oooooooooo good to hear I was fearing that the dude who posted the leak didn't record everything. This will be zhe first wver time we'll get zo see Alice again since 6's premiere, the first new and exclusive content of her. Should be mighty helpful with figuring her hair out for good, tho we have a pretty good understanding of it now anyways. Will definitely record it, thanks for telling
>>25672 we think of her as smart and cute but she is sadistic as fuck. I feel like if you actually met her in person you would be cooked. As a drone at least, idk what her opinion on humans is but it can't be much different.
>>32725 >we think of her as smart and cute but she is sadistic as fuck Perhaps, but I don't mind since she isn't very impulsive and more rational , example she just could have stabbed Uzi as soon as she bit her, instead Alice first fixed herself and further restrained Uzi, in order to THEN get revenge, which initially only consisted of cutting Uzi's fingertip (before Uzi shoved the cutter away that is). Of course Alice enjoyed it a lot, what matters (to me) is why she did it, and how measured she was considering the difference in power during that situation. But that cool, rational reaction, planning to take exactly the same revenge was already hot as hell, when Uzi then gave her a reason to stab her....omg. just look at how gleefull Alice is during that entire scene, her tone of voice, that grin and expression, with that fullteethed holloweyed expression at the end, I guess I have seen it 800-1200 times and it is soooo incredibly good. Everything about that sequence is just perfect. Starting with Alice fixing her finger and ending with V squirming (mind the shit V has done before, not sure if it is in character for V to have that reaction or more so needed by the plot to show Alice=super evil, hurt the jewzi). I see definitely where you are coming from, but I still am sure that she didn't kill anyone in canon (if you don't count cores), already for the lack of opportunity. Seeing how she was to Uzi initially (and Tessa, who she thought was human), as well as Alice's imo very very just behaviour (the finger thing was pretty much eye for an eye), even if there is a enjoyment of violence (albeit a rational one, if one can say that) I am 99% sure you wouldn't get killed if you did nothing.
Good look at the backside of Alice's antler, finally shows that the 'reflector' behind her bulb is connected to the upwards bent tip of the left antler, not the beam below directly next to or even on the bulbmountingbase
>>53137 I call the wavy shape ot their white mouth area and visor that, it has such a nice form and if you look at a drones face from the side it is on the very leading edge of their heads, drones' heads around round they have a very slight 'snoot'
Today's progress on VN: >got the Whatsit exterior edited >tried drawing Alice >tried drawing Alice again >gave up on drawing Alice and took the coward's way out for now Picrel is the current state of affairs, it'll get better eventually
>>70172 That looks really nice, I imagined it slightly smaller but the construction is just how I remembered it! You are very good at drawing people, and the Alice is a total qtπ! Can you identify any specific difficulties when drawing her? The proprtions are very close tho, maybe have the torso 10% smaller, but not the overall height, that fits good. Absolutely looking forward to what it will become, good work
>>70193 It's only difficult because I'm used to trying to draw people,.while the shapes and proportions used for drones are theoretically simple and therefore pretty easy to spot when wrong I'm going to reattempt tonight and see if I can get to a compromise with myself, just wanna do justice to her Beau should be a cinch though, since he's just a funny lil egg
Beau sprite is tentatively done Need to set some alt positions for his hand, but that's straightforward Will probably also try to slim the outline for his pillbaby case
>>70357 >theoretically simple I know what you mean, but everyone has sone degree of stylization that often makes it look fitting if it's close enough to the right proportions. >Wanna do justice to her You will, my first Alice wasn't shapely at all, yours has good style already a little tweaking on it and she'll fit with the trucker >Beau should be a cinch Always, I always just wing him each time myself >>71161 This is really nice! Good lines, especially the hat and visorface! Also posing and details, don't worry about the thick shellline it looks great already, has more swag than any Beau I made for sure. Can't wIt to see your Alice, your style is very nice, clean and detailled, gl
>mfw i try to undo a bad stroke and it turns out that it undoes the last two minutes of good work Alt Beau sprite with arm down, redid the border of his casing Remaining character sprites are Alice and Ticket Guy, plus backgrounds
I'm not particularly satisfied but this is the best Alice sprite I could hack together so far Might tool around more if I have time, but it'll work for the purposes of the demo Not sure if I'll have it all set tomorrow, might be this weekend
>Daily Alice funfact: In an alternate universe Alice worked on N instead of Beau. Swayed by his innocent nature and not being an impersonable gremlin like Uzi she instead helps the group and reveals Cyn. She later marries Doll.
>>76792 Someone recorded it all, catboxed it and put a link here, I don't have the link now but the download says it has to be from Oktober 19th. >>76607 This looks really >nice >CUTE >good >accurate and onmodel No need for haste, I think the wait will be more than worth it for anyone interested here. Especially her collarbone/shoulder are and visor look extremely good imo, not just saying that cause iz is you but the style works well, the little nudge in the collarbone line always has big influence on perspective if done right, which it is here, fits with legs pose. And making the blush lines parallel like that is something I need to try too. Tail around the leg is also a great idea >>75895 Thanks a lot, it's one of the things I ever drew that I like most, I think about such scenarios very often and will definitely do more of them as soon as they are clear enough! Positive replies about that thing mean much >>76791 Alice having spent more time in contact with awake N/having N in the room instead of V would have helped so much... Alice and Doll marriage I'm not 100% sure about but they could absolutely become closer, tgey have much in common personality and historywise
>>76792 https://files.catbox.moe/mggafo.mp4 Found it, it's the entirety of the second GlitchX behind the scenes stream, with exception of >>75392 From the third it contains every official piece of exclusive official Alice content we ever got.
>>88069 Classic But it's this one for me, that image rewired my brain. First the original green, it was very impactful and I got very invested in drones. But that very image of Alice...peak, made me see why people said they wanna marry drones, I'm there myself since then. Post 141061880 on /co/, early december, catbox link. Will not forget
>>92142 Hello! I don't know much about guns but I think a Sharps rifle could be relevant, good accuracy for the time and not too massive for a drone, tho that is quite old for old west perhaps. Would be powerful and accurate enough to take down anything with enough planning and 'home-advantage' which I guess she'd have in any situation where she'd chose to engage. Winchesters of course too, easier reload, rifled and so on. One more that comes to mind is 50.cal Kentucky rifle, (look up Jack Hinson's), rare and very large for a drone, but supposedly was able to hit at 600 yards, not sure if that's really an old west gun. Similiar with the withworth one, which is the bestlooking (pic rel). No idea about revolvers however