Yeah, I was worried that the new designs wouldn't have the capability for some of the outlandish facial expressions that helped make the original show so memorable, but the show surprised me in that area. I don't expect they'll go as far as the original series, but there's still a capacity for some excellent reaction faces (to wit: the attached image).
Also surprising: the soundtrack. Good lord, that OST is gonna be amazing. Not a fan of the OP and ED themes, but they fucking NAILED the transformation theme (that whole sequence looked spectacular, BTW).
Yeah, I couldn't tell if the writing for the show was just super generic or if the subs on Hulu were super not good. I'll probably stick with Hulu, though, as Sailor Moon has never had deep plot and I can pick up the general idea without having to seek out torrents.
As far as this episode goes, it's everything I wanted in a more manga-focused Sailor Moon. Romance is already more tangible which is nice. The animation is gorgeous although I do agree that they look much older than what they're supposed to be (high school versus middle). And their eyes are a bit too big, even for anime proportions. Totally minor complaints. Music makes me feel early 90s which I guess is fitting. ED was my favorite. Also lol those shoujo flower overlays over people were great, really loving that.
>>89070i >f the subs on Hulu were super not good. I'll probably stick with Hulu It's the subs. The subs are trash. Now if you're expecting something "groundbreaking" well, Sailor Moon wrote most of the cliches this genre is built around so...
As for Hulu, why in the world would you stick with the one service where even if you subscribe they still cram 12 ads down your throat? Use NicoNico or Crunchy if you insist on the official subs.
>>89078 I thought Luna was too... round. Like they did that whole circle outline thing and then said "You know what, this is good, color it in." She had more definition, especially in the head, in the original.
>>89074 Does Cruncyroll not have ads? I use Hulu's free service and am content with the ads in return; I'll never pay them a red cent so long as their paid service still has ads. Plus, it's my main streaming site, and Crystal is favorited and automatically added to my queue, so unless I'm losing a lot with the poor translation I can deal with it in return for the convenience.
>>89095 Hmm. Thing is, I'm not nearly as much into anime now as I once was, so I don't know if I would consider subscribing for the sake of a handful of series when there's nothing I'm seriously into right now. Good to know, though; thanks.
>>89096 As in shorter/less frequent? I wouldn't say that Hulu's are intrusive (in that they don't overlay the video you're viewing, you just get ~2 minutes of ads at intervals.)
>>89165 Re-dubs always take extra time. It took me a bit to get used to the Funimation One Piece vs. 4kids. While Funimation had far better quality overall (and less "YO HO HO"), I thought the 4Kids dub had better voices for Chopper and one other character I forget right now. It also made more sense for me when Chopper's voice got deeper when he used his larger forms, vs. the original and Funimation voices where he is always high pitched except when he turns turns into/uses Monster Point.
Once again, my nostalgia for the classic dub voices stands at odds with the actual quality of the new dub. It's going to take a looooooooooooooot of watching to get used to hearing Rukia's voice coming out of Luna's mouth.
Luna's voice is the only one I remember at all, but Michelle Ruff's voice is totally fine to me. Having a mental connection between Disgaea/Persona and a thing I haven't seen since I was like, 7, is weird though.
But hey, it's not like I'm going to watch it so :V
>>89316 That's my only hope right now. Those who don't use fansubs are only used to the DVD quality, and it's well known that TV production is often rushed to put on the air and greatly improved later, so this might just be a case of not being used to QUALITY.
Haha, this lady is great. I wonder if this is the Sailor Moon equivalent of getting pissed at Nintendo for "retconning" Princess Toadstool into Princess Peach, or the Green-Eyed Sonic the Hedgehog thing.
When they remade Thundercats, were there people who were this angry over Lion-O not being a kid who grew up at an accelerated rate thanks to Space-Pod hibernation?
I watched for about 5 minutes myself before quitting (framerate so smooth it's like I'm really playing running through Blightown) and then watched the 4 episodes they put out with some people on IRC. It was actually pretty fun. I love Michelle Ruff as Luna.
I kind of wish they brought the new Sailor Moon series into the present time a little more and changed the art style up a bit like what they did with that Cutie Honey and Yatterman remake series. Bring Usagi's geekiness into the 21st Century.
>>89907 Fans are already pretty divided on the series as a whole. The animation errors, the slavish devotion to the original manga--which has a lot of problems that the first anime fixed, like the pacing and the amount of personality injected into the individual characters. Even though the first anime had its own problems that came along with it--and there are still a lot of people who feel like the new series' character designs just don't work that well in an animated medium though designs like them were fine for the manga. The overfocus on the Usagi/Mamoru romance over the girls' friendship is sticking in a lot of people's craws too.
Honestly, if I had my druthers, Crystal would've been different. I would've liked to see something that took the best stuff from all the incarnations to date and made the "Ultimate Version of Sailor Moon." The pacing and personality of the original anime, some of the neat additional storylines and concepts from the toku series, but with more attention to the story skeleton outlined by the manga. And toss on top of all of that a modern, high budget anime veneer, including--as you mentioned--bringing the story into the 21st century.
But that's not what we got. I dunno. Crystal's not horrible or anything. But I just don't care about it as much as I had hoped I would. There's not much to look forward to in it because I already know all the story beats and they've made it clear they're not going to take any chances or try anything new, and the animation is going to be in many ways lower quality than the first anime despite the fact that the still frames from it might be prettier.
It's going the route of many other anime these days and making all of the corrections, touch-ups, and improvements on the Blu-Ray. Attack on Titan did it, and even though some might argue it didn't need it, even Kill La Kill threw in a few improvements here and there for the blu-ray.
It's a matter of budget, this is (so far) a 26 episode series that was gonna air on TV first, so they just save their best for when they have the time and money (the blu-rays.)
>>89915 Yeah, QUALITY is a well-known aspect of anime that airs for TV first, which is then touched up (sometimes completely redone) for video release. This doesn't apply to all series that air on TV, of course, but many fans (especially of the original SM series) are used to getting rips based on the DVDs and aren't as used to QUALITY.
>>89915 >>89917 The fact remains that "we'll touch it up on the DVD" wasn't really a problem for the original series, and given what a surefire money maker the franchise is, they could have afforded to give it a high enough budget to get it right the first time. They haven't convinced me the DVD is worth buying, so there's a good chance I'll never see the fixes they put in place.
>>89923 I don't disagree, but I don't think Crystal was made because the production company had a deep loyalty to Sailor Moon... more like they saw how well FMA Brotherhood did and, with the anniversary, decided to cash in that way.
I don't think QUALITY was a thing back in the early 90s when the Sailor Moon series was first released, was it? Certainly there would be touch-ups here and there, especially as series got the DVD treatment, but I don't think any of it was on the level of what you see today.
QUALITY was a thing on pretty much any show, Gundam could have it, DBZ could have it, Sailor Moon wouldn't be any different. Stuff is higher res and more easily accessible, so it's quicker and easier than ever to catch this stuff, but even the manga itself had bad anatomy that required Takeuchi herself to come back and redraw stuff.
In my opinion, it's nothing new, and pretty much just something to sorta laugh about.
>>89930 I don't think he meant off-model animation in general, just cases where they really cheaped out on the TV version specifically so people would buy the DVD/BD. It's not even limited to in-between frames: for instance, Madoka had one scene where the BD had a completely different background because the TV version was apparently unfinished.
Among them, Nangbaby is still my favorite for just utter incorrectness. Like, I can't even call it wrongness, because that has a chance of implying something raunchy or off-color, this person is just somehow...incorrect, and in a very train-wreck-hilarity kind of way. Like, calling the creator racist over the old dub. I think she also said the treatment of the old dub was anti-Black.
I guess because Serena shared a name with Serena Williams?
Nangbaby believes that Naoko Takeuchi should no longer have any control of the Sailor Moon franchise (and is a racist for innumerable reasons, including hatin’ on the DiC/Cloverway dub). She also thinks that people can’t empathize with other people without trying to talk over them (and that people can’t empathize with complete strangers). Here’s proof for the empathy thing: http://nangbaby.com/post/102823134238/
And while she’ll admit to the problems with the old dub, she’ll just as soon defend it by saying ‘it’s the version of Sailor Moon that we got first and a new dub is cultural genocide and racist and sexist and homophobic and YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THEY’RE TRYING TO ERASE MY MEMORIES OF SERENA WHY AREN’T YOU LISTENING TO ME YOU BASTARD’…or something equally as crazed, anyway.
I hadn’t checked on her blog in months, but when I went back the other day (which prompted the bump that pushed this thread up), it was filled with just as much insane ramblings as it has ever been. This is an actual quote from a recent post of hers (http://nangbaby.com/post/103025884598/):
>I’m boycotting because many aspects I liked about the old Sailor Moon anime — such as the Negaverse, names which included my language and culture even when the appearances did not, and the strong, gender-trope defying female characters — are replaced by alienating names coupled with the same alienating appearances, queercoded sissy villains and needlessly antagonistic and stereotypical lesbians. Replacing “Usagi” for “Serena” uses cultural window dressing to justify the problematic appearance, just as flattening unique women into stereotypical gay characters uses the idea of representation to justify sexism.
In other words: ‘I’m boycotting because I can’t deal with Japanese names for the Sailor Scouts and there’s a bunch of shit in there that’s partly a product of the cultural attitudes in ’90s Japan.’
>>92742 I agree--and the story itself often makes jokes about her being chubby or worried about her weight. That would make a lot more sense if she were actually kind of curvy. And she's still adorable, and probably even more of an "every girl" this way.
>>92743 May as well ask why does Ami have blue hair and Michiru have green.
It's because anime likes to use creative color palettes than just giving everybody the same hair color and eye color. it's especially important when all the characters wear uniforms so that you can tell characters apart from far away easily. This is easier with live action, but with cartoons where the designs are simplified and stylized, palette differences can be important for that sort of thing.
For that matter, it's just more fun for the artists to use lots of different colors when drawing. And in the original manga of course, Usagi's hair was often pink when it was colored, rather than blonde--lighter pink than Chibi-Usa's, but definitely pink. It's just artistic expressiveness.