/cog/ - Traditional & Video Gaming

My rig's a POS, and it (used to) play emulated games just fine. SFxMM ran slow as fuck on my rig, so I couldn't even play it. I did watch a runthrough, though - and I'd agree with all your complaints. But hey, it's a free fangame that Capcom gave an official greenlight, so I'm not too sore about it sucking ass.

Picked up Shovel Knight for the 3DS yesterday and cleared the first two areas. I am utter shit at the game (never been good at platformers or old Nintendo games) but it will never not be satisfying to clear an area or boss you've been having trouble with... I just wish I didn't have to bleed money to do it as hard as I do. Most other games these days lack that kind of challenge and satisfaction I feel.

Also free Plague Knight DLC any day now... I hope. It is the end of Q2 after all.

>>196400

Related to the new teaser—Scott put the following letters in the metadata for his site: gsfecfbs, Decode it with a simple Caesar cipher, and it becomes fredbear. The evidence that FNAF4 is going to be about the original Fredbear's Family Diner is stacking up.

>>196410
Mario is my favorite series but I honestly don't get why you or anyone would try to make a timeline for it. The series itself has basically no canon.

>>196413
Because I can.

>>196415

You were so busy with thinking you could that you never stopped to consider whether you should.

>>196413
But Clearly Shy Guys exist in both Yoshi and Subcon because Subcon is actually a dream Mario is having and he has subconcious memories of Shy Guys from his infant travels with Yoshi.

>>196410
These are relevant to your interests. Maybe.
//youtube.com/watch?v=-JcK_Bfe3sw
//youtube.com/watch?v=xzWFuEH9HsA
//youtube.com/watch?v=alcxiiN6xkU

>>196420
I miss when FE wasn't a trash heap.

AND SPEAKING OF TRASH HEAPS
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/nier-yoko-taro-interview/

Man Yoko Taro has yet to make a single good game but they're also INTERESTING in their awfulness and I love the dude himself.

"Yeah if you played the last one it's hard to understand" fucking love this dude

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-26-tetsuya-nomura-didnt-realise-he-was-directing-final-fantasy-7-remake

Even Nomura didn't see it coming!

>>196420
>DOA
Best Freudian slip.

>>196420
Well.
This game's gonna be a huge hit.

>>196420
The alleged sensual moaning of the prisoners is the only thing that's in any way concerning. Everything else can be safely ignored, if you don't like the stuff. They're just options, that you're not forced to use. Fuck off to anyone that's trying to make a stink around that.

>>196420
I don't like the pandering bullshit but most of it is optional. Not happy about the children mechanics and bringing it back a third time without changes would be a bigger shark-jumping moment than all the waifu/husbando bullshit. Didn't hear about the POW rape thing, but I didn't notice it on any of the streams I watched so chances are it's being somewhat overblown.

I really hate the whole "Idols" thing Japan is so obsessed about, its like a more skeevy version of teen pop icons.

So yeah the game isn't exactly drawing my interest.

>>196418

I subscribe to the theory that Subcon is a plane of existence tied to dreams, and can be entered via dreams, much like Nightopia and Nightmare from Nights Into Dreams, or the Dreamlands from Legend of the Five Rings.

D4 is amazing. Goddamn.

>>196428
Trust me, it'd be great if that was the game's only problem.

I was pretty trashed last night, so let me take a second to step back and point out that believing Nintendo let one of their partner companies put rape in their IP based on a screenshot of a tumblr post citing a reddit post is ridiculous.

>>196445
You're right, underage incest is much more believable.

>>196446
With Japan? It kind of is.

>>196448
Yep!
Nintendo knows what sells. Awakening was a hit for a reason and I'm sure this'll be more so. I really hope whoever gets these games enjoys them and continue to keep IS working. Maybe we'll see different stuff from them in the future.

>>196449
But Anon, don't you want to bitch and moan about how the game is sexist and blah blah?

>>196451
I wanna bitch about it, sure but sexism isn't exactly the issue, is it? 'Sides, FE's kinda always been particularly girl friendly. At least I've thought so. Shitty bait-y character designs aside, I know I'm in the small small SMALL minority of people who actually played FE before Awakening if sales figures are to be believed, so there's no point in complaining about stuff much more people are gonna be happy about.

In closing, fuck this game! Not gonna waste any more time bitching about why, but fuck this game.

Idol Culture is worse than "sexism", shit's proper fucked up.

>>196453
What's that got to do with anything.

OH MY GOD SOMEONE COMPLAIN ABOUT SEXISM ALREADY FUCK

You guys most really like Gajin Gomba then?

>>196452
Remember when FE had good, restrained character designs?

>>196454
Do you not know anything about Illusory Revelations?

>>196445
Well, there was one line in Sacred Stones where it was implied Valter did something nasty to his female victims, though it theoretically could've been just slapping them around as opposed to full on rape.

Wait shit did the "sexism" allegations start already? uh
uh

PFFT. YOU FEMASLES AND YOUR "SOGGY KNEE."

>>196458
Singaloid Tiki made me want to kill small animals.

>>196465
oh sweet is someone gonna complain about sexism now??

>>196465
There's no way that's real. No way.

>>196465
>Meaningful choices
Heh. Bioware isn't all that much better than Telltale in this regard.

You know incest is hardly new for Fire Emblem right? FE4 was filled with both canon and player enforced stuff. Also technically your character is adopted by the Nohr family and []only stepsiblings with the Hoshido family[].

>>196470
You could turn into a dragon-horse and your siblings were human. You clearly weren't THAT related.

>>196471
Its always like you SJWs to take the fun stuff away from games. Hah hah hah. When will you learn? Your kind is a dying kind!

Try your best, woman. I'm here all night.

USER WAS TRYING TOO HARD

>>196471
I figured it had more to do with being the Chosen One or imbued with a special artifact/dragonstone. Besides FE10 had a precedent with Micaiah and Sanaki.

//youtube.com/watch?v=6oH431PqjZU
OH GOD THIS IS THE CUTEST SHIT! CAN'T POSSIBLY DEAL!

//youtube.com/watch?v=1cmuc5ia3go

>>196481
>>196474
Sometimes I forget how different my tastes are from the tastes of some of the people who post here.

>>196482
Isn't it great?

>>196469
>You've a,l played Halo 4 right? Because it's that.
FUCKIN DROPPED actually i did like the production design on Halo 4 as one of the few redeeming features but if i get another crap star fox level and qtes...

>>196472
inb4 censorship

>>196486
don't feed him, he's trying (poorly) to discredit opinions he disagrees with.

>>196485
It makes sense for armor to get a little more organic I guess, but I have to agree; pretty sure I wore that exact armor in Halo 4's multiplayer... or Crysis. I forget which. Shame that armor is following the same route guns seem to in that it's all converging on a generic design everyone uses.

>>196488
>don't feed him, he's trying (poorly) to discredit opinions he disagrees with.
To be fair, we've had a couple of non-parody posts like that in the past here. Not like people need to try to discredit that stuff.

>>196486
When he posts the same kind of thing four times (>>196472, >>196466, >>196455, >>196463) it stops being sarcasm and starts being trolling.

//youtube.com/watch?v=4ANzA2fQ8Gc

>>196483
It actually kind of is.

>>196491
Can we ban any and all SJW/ Gamer Gate shit please?
I get enough of that trash everywhere else on the internet.

>>196499
It's a big topic right now. People are going to discuss it.
Just ignore/report those clearly trolling and shitposting about it.

>>196500
If I was reporting everyone who was shitposting about it, I would be reporting every single post that mentioned or heavily alluded to it.

>>196500
>Just ignore/report those clearly trolling and shitposting about it.
So every post, then.

//youtube.com/watch?v=YHWChn7AvoQ
>Last of Us 2
Maybe?

>>196504
Last of Us 2 was always inevitable. Whether it will continue with Joel and Ellie is the real question.

>>196500
I'm not as involved with this stuff as I used to be, is there a reason it's a big topic right now or has it just refuses to die out? Not trying to stir shit up again just wondering if something happened.

>>196504
>The Last 2 of Us

>>196508
*refused
Misspelled it and auto-spell doesn't know how to auto-grammar.

WB knew the PC port of Arkham Knight was shit.

http://kotaku.com/sources-warner-bros-knew-that-arkham-knight-pc-was-a-1714915219

>“I will say that it’s pretty rich for WB to act like they had no idea the game was in such a horrible state,” said one quality assurance tester who worked on the game for years. “It’s been like this for months and all the problems we see now were the exact same, unchanged, almost a year ago.”

>Two sources, requesting anonymity to avoid jeopardizing their careers, spoke with Kotaku over the past week in hopes of explaining how the broken PC version of Arkham Knight made it out the door. They both said that Warner Bros. was aware of the many issues facing Arkham Knight on PC and that the publisher chose to ship the game regardless, not to maniacally screw over customers—but because they believed it was good enough.

Reason why the game was delayed many times is because Rocksteady underestimated game development for PS4 and Xbox One.

>“Getting it to work on consoles was impossible for months,” said our tester source. “That’s part of why the game got delayed so many times, they were totally unprepared for how hard it was on next-gen consoles.”

>In various meetings, QA teams were told the new consoles were “not nearly as easy to work with as [Rocksteady] expected” and testers should focus time on finding console bugs. This particular team was made up of roughly 100 people, with about 10% focused on the PC version.

>“We reported literally thousands of bugs that were specific to the PC version relating to the frame rate,” said our QA source. “All sorts of fucked up texture issues. The Batmobile in particular has always fucked things up on PC.”

Article also explains why certain PC ports from WB like Shadow of Mordor and Dying Light were good, while others like Arkham Origins and Mortal Kombat X were bad.

>>196511
"Good enough" being the standard for PC releases sounds like a decision driven by the fact that Steam dominates that market now, and Arkham Knight is mostly going to end up being bought for like 16 cents in some future sale.

>>196512
Steam also has refunds now.
So "Good Enough" is no longer "good enough". Not to mention the PC gamer/userbase is notoriously hostile to people pulling this shit while most console players seem to just take it without much fuss.

No PC release should have been that bad regardless. What the hell do you think they develop games on? Not really many excuses to fuck up a release for the system you built the game on.

Hopefully they did pull it in reaction to a massive amount of refunds; if so, it might be the signal to developers that they can't release what is essentially a beta as a full release anymore.

>>196511
Not even a little surprised.
WB is a bigger scumbag dev than EA is.

>>196518
Publisher. WB is a bigger scumbag publisher than EA is. Let's not confuse them with a position that actually does work.

>>196519
Right.

arstechnica.com/business/2015/07/sony-asks-public-to-fund-internal-projects-with-its-first-flight-program
Sad really

>>196529
How exactly is allowing the public to demonstrate there's a market for weird games that would never see the light of day otherwise sad?

>>196530

Arguably, the risk should be borne by the one who seeks to reap the reward. By requesting the public to fund their projects, Sony risks little yet still nets the end profit. This is offloading the costs of doing business to the consumer.

Now angel investors, individual people who invest capital into a project or venture, are not a new thing, however investors usually receive something like debt, securities, or partial ownership in the venture. Furthermore, there are laws in place to protect private, layman investors as they could be easily targeted by unscrupulous individuals. Given the recent historical events, people are more skeptical about the motives and practices of large businesses when it comes to taking advantage of individual consumers.

>>196531
So then if I understand your point correctly, you think it would be better that these games never get made--even if you like the games that end up getting made--than allow people to help fund them without being treated like Producers.

I don't know, every time I hear one of these diatribes against crowdfunding it sounds like an old man yelling at a cloud because we're inventing new business models.

https://twitter.com/Andrea_Ritsu/status/616522493281615872

Make sure to read the entire chain of tweets on this.

Oh, Nintendo. You done fucked up big time.

>>196534
Yeah, I'm usually the first to defend Japan being Japan and creepy anime bullshit will be the hill I choose to die on, but even I can admit that's fucked.

>>196534
wasn't fire emblem a notoriously hard srpg at some point?

blame "casuals" for the transition to otaku degenerate pandering

>>196536
>wasn't fire emblem a notoriously hard srpg at some point
It also sold like shit.

>>196534
That is super fucked up.

Seriously, with stuff like that and the Megaten crossover's subject matter I'm really glad I never got into this series.

>>196535
>>196538
It's also not true.

The insane telephone game that's been going on for Fates is ridiculous.

>>196539
^This. Stop believing literally everything you hear on the Internet. Nintendo isn't that stupid.

>>196539
This is what happens to any game that's popular. Lies and rumors, peddled by people who have no stake in the success of the game but do so merely because they are bored is common-place for more highly anticipated titles. This just happens to be the first time a Fire Emblem title is highly anticipated, due to Awakening brining in a larger audience (whether it's due to the inclusion of some common-sense difficulty mechanics, change in the character art/aesthetic of the game, or merely it was a sequel that came in at the right time is open for debate).

It just won't die and I can't escape it.

>>196544
Boredom sounds too generous. They do it because they have a narrative to push, and using a lie about an unreleased game with no source gives them an opportunity to do so.

>>196534
Anyone fluent in Japanese able to tell if she's telling the truth?

http://hibikiwataru.tumblr.com/post/123001482617/a-new-degree-of-homophobia-in-fire-emblem-fates
For better context, THIS explains the situation in a lot more detail. It's still shitty and juvenile, but it's not quite like what that Twitter in >>196534 describes.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Z46S9

Someone who imported Fates sheds some light on the controversy.

>>196552
He literally says the same thing and but says "no no its okay guys, really."

>posted on 4chan by a person who was accepted by the board as being correct.
Pewwwww thats the bullshit metre going off the charts there, yeah I gave it a sound effect.

She confuses Kamui for a girl for awhile and laughs it off, and in other supports mentions being bi anyway.

Stop rumor mongering and just wait for the English release, it's not like you aren't going to buy it anyway.

Also if you're going to criticize it for something, criticize it for the lack of gay options for her and Zero instead of playing "which moonreader will I believe?"

People who don't like the criticism for this game don't seem to grasp the concept of "morally dubious."

>>196551
Not as shitty as the original report, but still significantly shitty indeed.

I'm not a big Fire Emblem fan (don't hate; just never followed it), but this new game keeps sounding terrible ever time I hear about it. I know Awakening divided fans with its "waifu" approach, but Fates just turned up all the negative weeb-pandering material to 11.

The only saving grace from all this is that Nintendo of America will tone down or remove all this problematic garbage for the West. Recently, NOA announced Fates would have gay and lesbian love options. Despite the execution being unnecessarily complex (one version for gay; one version for lesbian), it was still a big move from Nintendo, considering the company's family image. It makes me wonder if NOA and NOE may have pushed NOJ to include that, as it was included in a patch in the original Japanese version. May explain why the love options are so limited.

>>196556
While there's a lot to be justifiably upset about, some of the criticisms like the accusations of "gay conversion" are factually wrong.

>>196557
>The only saving grace from all this is that Nintendo of America will tone down or remove all this problematic garbage for the West. Recently, NOA announced Fates would have gay and lesbian love options. Despite the execution being unnecessarily complex (one version for gay; one version for lesbian), it was still a big move from Nintendo, considering the company's family image. It makes me wonder if NOA and NOE may have pushed NOJ to include that, as it was included in a patch in the original Japanese version. May explain why the love options are so limited.
Literally the only part of this that is true is Zero and NotTharja being version exclusive, stop making shit up.

>>196420
To clarify, stuff that's true:
>children mechanics (I'm sure people know this by now)
>lewd dialogue (yep)
>stripping (both in and out of battle; you can damage or break the clothes off units if you hit them hard enough or with the right weapons)

Stuff that isn't:
>touching breasts (you can rub the neck and shoulders but nothing happens if you touch them anywhere below such as the pecs or the breasts)
>prison rape (sounded like regular old torture to me)


Not to justify any of the true stuff because equal opportunity or not, stupid pandering is still stupid, but we don't need to add outright misinformation on top of the shitpile.

>>196560
>(sounded like regular old torture to me)
Then don't exclude it if you're deliberately keeping it subjective.

>>196561
Grunts of pain. People make naughty vids of TF2 using in-game pain noises all the time.

>>196532
Getting away from big corporate business is the whole reason crowdfunding exists. If big corporate businesses are using it, it's just businesses doing all their shit but with slightly less consequences.

>>196562
Yep. People equate grunts of pain with prison rape all the time. How did ANYONE make that mistake, amirite?

No the reason crowdfunding exists is to get projects off the ground that otherwise would not exist. If Iga or Suzuki need a ks to calm investors, fine, because without that ks there is no game.

>>196564
Because Nintendo doesn't feature prison rape in their other games, even their M rated ones, and while they're more lax on other issues it's silly to think they'd start now.

>>196564
>>196567
Basically, what Rodyle already said half a thread up ago.

>>196567
So yeah. How about we keep avoiding any legitimate criticism and just go back to talking about power rangers or something.

>>196563
>Getting away from big corporate business is the whole reason crowdfunding exists. If big corporate businesses are using it, it's just businesses doing all their shit but with slightly less consequences.
>>196565
>No the reason crowdfunding exists is to get projects off the ground that otherwise would not exist. If Iga or Suzuki need a ks to calm investors, fine, because without that ks there is no game.

Here's the thing: there is no reason WHY something like this exists. It is a process. That process can be used by anyone for any purpose. Indies can use it to fund indie projects, megacorps can use it to make sure there's sufficient interest in a project before committing to it, politicians can use it to fund political campaigns, charities can use it for charity drives, whatever.

It is a mistake to assign an ethos to something that is inherently neutral.

>>196569
Enough of this Chewbacca defense bullshit. I didn't say any of the criticism wasn't legit, just that the claims of prison rape are hyperbolic in the same way that people are coming to the conclusion that Foleo is trans.

>>196557
You sure you got your information right? You're probably getting it confused with the patch Nintendo did for Tomodachi Life. Speaking of which, according to Trinen (grain of salt here) that patch didn't remove the ability to get gay married in that game, but involved a data transfer glitch and happened to coincide with the discovery that people were deliberately making male-looking Female Miis to get around the game's marriage limitations, causing the two to get conflated.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/05/nintendo-on-gay-marriage-and-tomodachi-life

>>196564
It's still a huge leap to go from beatings to rape.

>mfw I forgot to redeem my club nintendo coins
FUCK ME
Oh well it was only 300 anyway and there wasn't really anything I was too interested in, but fuck man.

>>196574
Old.

>>196577
Shit, I didn't even notice the date.

>>196557
>The only saving grace from all this is that Nintendo of America will tone down or remove all this problematic garbage for the West.

I wonder if I can get the mods to remove Jumpan's "problematic garbage" on this board.

>>196579
Holy shit fuck shut the cunt up about FE already fuck

//youtube.com/watch?v=qgLtNAKTjhw

From the creators of Skullgirls comes a Metroidvania inspired by Southeast Asian mythology.

>>196581
Looks pretty hype. Great choice of setting.

>>196581
Oooooh~
Yeah, I'm liking this. Love the art design.

>>196581

Neat.

The new Terraria patch has some major fucking issues. Mainly the world generator overwriting jungle and snow biomes with corruption. I seriously hope they didn't intend for it to be this way and it's gonna get fixed soon.

>>196581
"Metroidvania" seems to be the reemergent craze in the here and now. Although backtracking heavy platformers like that aren't exactly my cup of tea, I'm interested to see some gameplay and where they go with it.

>>196586
Huh? I've created at least three worlds without that problem.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150702PD204.html
>Nintendo in March announced its plan of releasing Nintendo NX in 2016 and has started visiting its supply chain partners recently. The orders are expected to be finalized in February or March 2016 and mass production will start in May or June 2016, while the console's official launch may take place around July, the sources said.

GG
No re

>>196593
I can believe Nintendo releasing the NX in 2016. I don't believe for a second it will be released in the summer.

It does seem ridiculously soon. How long has the WiiU been around for? I hope they do a better job of advertising it this time around. The NX name can stay.

>>196581
Huh, I was honestly expecting a tie-in beat 'em up starring characters that didn't become fighters in the main Skullgirls game. New stuff is nice though.

//youtube.com/watch?v=4L4kaFiptNk

The hunt is on!

>Did you hear?! Nintendo's releasing the NX summer 2016!

cut to next week where there is apologizing as this was yet another rumor pulled out of the internet asshole.

http://www.gamerampage.net/all/nintendo-nx-not-aiming-to-compete-with-playstation-4
If true it's not surprising, but still somehow a disappointment. Nintendo just can't into 3rd party or multi system release.

//youtube.com/watch?v=2lMLRIwiB_c

>The Japanese management had continued to override any meaningful changes the designers and other staff wanted to implement
>On multiple occasion members of the team allegedly had their suggestion dismissed outright and were told the reason for this was that they wouldn't understand because they weren't Japanese

>>196603
>If true it's not surprising, but still somehow a disappointment. Nintendo just can't into 3rd party or multi system release.
I really just do not understand the mindset of people who want Nintendo to make a third console that's effectively identical to the other two. If you want a PS4, buy a fucking PS4.

>>196606
Basically, Nintendo doesn't play to win any more, they just play to have fun.
I won't be surprised if the NX has another third party alienating core gimmick.

>>196607
>Basically, Nintendo doesn't play to win any more
And yet they consistently make considerably more money than Sony and Microsoft's games divisions. "Winning" is only important to gamers, in a sports fan's "My team won!" form of tribalism. I'll be happy as long as Nintendo continues to make cool games that no one else is making yet.

>>196606
I want a Nintendo console that third parties are willing to at least consider ports for. That means it has to have an amount of processing power at least approaching the other consoles. First party games would benefit from this.

>>196609
But why would you want ports anyway, is my point? Is there really any point in having three nearly identical consoles when you've already got two nearly identical consoles to choose from? If all you want to do is play Nintendo games and PS4 games on the same console, you should be wishing for Nintendo to give up on hardware and go third party. Not wishing they would make a PS4 clone.

>>196610
Because not everyone can afford three consoles--or two even. A Nintendo console with good third-party support shouldn't be seen as an unreasonable demand.

>>196610
>>196611
Its not just about ports, either. At least appealing to other audiences than the core Mario Zelda people. Games are more than just titles, its social gatherings. And if there's a new release I want to be able to experience that communion with my friends with other consoles.

And its pretty silly to think if anyone wants to play a specific game, they would spend $400 on a new system.

...
And I want FIFA on a Nintendo system, there hasn't been one in years.

>>196611
>>196612
Then buy a PS4 *instead of* a Nintendo system. That's my point. You have to decide what's the most bang for your buck. If you like the game library on one console better than another, that's the one you go for. That's how it was back in the Genesis/Super Nintendo days, before everything came out on every system. You kids today are spoiled.

>>196613
So
You're saying 3rd party support is pointless?

>>196614
I'm saying that when you buy a Nintendo system, you know what to expect. Stop trying to make it a Playstation. If you would rather have a Playstation, buy a Playstation.

>>196615
Up until the Wii U, 3rd party support has been pretty expected of Nintendo! If anything at least there was variety. The GC had Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid and the like. And companies go out of their way to not develop for the Wii U. It has stronger hardware than the PS3 and 360 and THEY're getting MGSV because of tech reasons.

It doesn't have to make a big effort to attract the Call of Duties, but at the very least it should be present when it comes to conversations regarding multiplats.

>>196613
there is no benefit to platfrom exclusivity from a (non-retarded) consumer's perspective

idiotic elitism that only serves the interests of the corporations is not something to be glorified

>>196617
>idiotic elitism that only serves the interests of the corporations is not something to be glorified
THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE SILENCED
GOVERNMENT MUST FEAR ITS PEOPLE

>>196616
>Up until the Wii U, 3rd party support has been pretty expected of Nintendo!
Bullshit. People have been making these same arguments about Nintendo's situation with third parties since the days of the N64.

>>196617
When the consoles are functionally identical, that's true. When the consoles have legitimate hardware differences that make different ones good at different things, it's not. The DS was the only system capable of playing the original incarnation of TWEWY for example--later they made the "Solo Remix" or whatever that could run on iPad, and that's fine and all, but making a port of the game for PSP at the time the original was made would've been stupid. It would've cost a lot more to put it on PSP because the PSP port would have had to be redesigned to work on the PSP's single screen and lack of touchscreen.

Nintendo systems tend to focus less on hardware power than they do on innovative UI options and things of that nature. This makes Nintendo games uniquely suited for gameplay experiences one can't have on other platforms. Many hardcore gamers write these off as gimmicks and bitch about the fact that the Wii isn't a PS3 or the Wii U isn't a PS4, but it is for exactly the reason that you've just stated that third PS4 would be a waste of everyone's time and money.

If there is no need for console exclusivity, then there is no need for another console.

The only justification for another console is a different approach that makes different games possible which wouldn't be on the other systems. Sony and Microsoft are playing an arms race of making identical consoles and selling them at a loss. If the NX is just a PS4 with higher stats, Nintendo is going to hemorrhage money even faster than Sony and Microsoft's game divisions do.

>>196619
I think most people are asking for a console that doesn't surrender traditional games for the gimmicks. A DS game can only be played on a DS, but it had everything it needed to play PSP games too. The Wii U meanwhile can only play games specifically made for the Wii U, which is great for those games but means that people have to pay hundreds of dollars more to play practically ANY games not made by Nintendo.

>>196620
>it had everything it needed to play PSP games too.
The PSP was significantly more powerful than the DS.

>>196619
>Bullshit. People have been making these same arguments about Nintendo's situation with third parties since the days of the N64.

The thing is, the Wii U's third-party situation is worst than any Nintendo console before. Nintendo doesn't even have EA, Ubisoft or Activision. Three significant losses, regardless of personal opinion of these publishers. (No sports game, no Assassin's Creed and no Call of Duty). And Nintendo doesn't have the strong indie support that Sony has.

Nintendo alone cannot support a console and shouldn't have to.

>>196622
Then don't buy it. This is simple math here. Buy the console with the library you care about.

>>196623
Well why the hell do you think the Wii U's sales have been so shit.

>>196623
>Buy the console with the library you care about.
That... can easily be two consoles when every game company that isn't Nintendo won't work on Nintendo's console.

If Nintendo could actually produce some good comparable gimmick less hardware that would net them third party support and multi platform releases they would be killing it pretty hard I think.

>>196631

Why would the third parties want to work on a nintendo platform regardless of architecture when they already have PC and Playstation, though?

>>196633
>why would companies want to expand their exposure to multiple platforms increasing their exposure and thus sales?
Gee Davy I don't know

>>196635
You do realize there's costs involved in porting a game to another platform, yes? And third parties have consistenly sold piss poor on Nintendo home consoles since the N64. The main customers of Nintendo platforms are (the admittedly plentiful) diehard Nintendo fans, who buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games and not much else.

>>196635

If that were the case, you'd see a lot of these "only on Playstation (and PC)" games get ported to the Xbone as well, but that shit ain't happening.

>>196639
With successful games, it happens very frequently, once the negotiated exclusivity period with Sony or Microsoft ends.

>>196622
>No sports game, no Assassin's Creed and no Call of Duty
That's not a loss for me at all. But no Hudson soft properties now that it's owned by Konami? Now that's bad.
Bomberman U sounds like it'd be pretty sweet.

>>196636
The main customers of Nintendo platforms are also parents buying a system for their child. The Wii U is far more common among children than PS4/Xbone.

Not saying it's evidence, but my brother is actually planning to take his PS4 downstairs to hide it from his kid when he thinks said baby is old enough to understand violent video games and give him a Wii U or whatever the current Nintendo console is then. I don't entirely follow the logic behind waiting, since he'll likely understand stuff before he makes his understanding visibly obvious, but whatever.

My brother gifted me ARK Survival Evolved, so we can play together and I'm fucking praying he gets bored of it soon, because I'm too much of a wuss to just tell him that this game is BORING ME OUT OF MY FUCKING SKULL! Fuck me, it's distilled fucking tedium. And for some reason he's obsessed with it.
Oh right, and it also gets like a 300-800MB patch every hour or so.

>>196651
ARK looks like one of those games that actually does have some amazing moments that people would love to talk about, but what they don't mention are the hours of absolute nothing that go on between those moments of greatness.

More NX speculation. Seems plausible:
http://pastebin.com/JGfziRTb

>>196660
What's the source for this one again? Is it air?

>>196660
I think poor advertising and naming contributed as much to killing the Wii U as its poor launch lineup.

>>196662
Literally everyone thought it was a Wii add-on when it was announced.

I need to cut Hearthstone out of my fucking life. All that game does is infuriate me and yet I keep playing it, despite hating every minute of it.

>>196674
I wonder why.
No one gets confused about Xbox 1 and Xbox One.

>>196684
I rarely see conversation about the XBox 1, and when I do it's almost always referred to as "first XBox" or "original XBox". There was never an "Xbox 2", so "XBox 1" doesn't make much as much sense as saying "PlayStation 1" (which was just called "PlayStation").

Although, there was some confusion about that at first (I recall a magazine showing the original XBox for a blurb about the Xbone, and some swindles on eBay), I don't think it was nearly as prolific as the Wii U. At that point, you had to go out of your way to purchase the original Xbox over the Xbone since it was no longer sold in any store (except gaming stores, where it was sold as Used, and clerks likely knew to double-check that it was actually an original XBox they wanted.) The consoles also looked distinct.

>>196660
>with regard to the launch of Nintendo 3DS and Wii U not necessarily having progressed well and not acquiring sufficient support from software publishers

Really? I thought the 3DS was selling really well and had a shitton of third party support?

>>196686
It does now, but it took over a year for that to start, after they did the first large price cut. Most system releases start out a bit slow (the Wii was a huge surprise in sales early on. The sales of the PS4 and Xbone are also faster than usual, to my understanding), so that isn't too surprising, but it seriously lacked the momentum that usually picks up within that first year primarily due to a lackluster software catalog for both first- and third-parties. The first big, original title was Mario 3D Land, which didn't come out until 8 months after its release. While it did have a launch library larger than most Nintendo launches (12 games), they were almost entirely ports or sequels of franchises with mild popularity on handhelds. The catalog really picked up mid-2012, and the system hit its stride in late 2012/early 2013 (which it's held since).

>>196687
Yeah, the 3DS didn't really become a must-have system (at least for me) until about mid-late 2013/early 2014 with its growing library. It really did start out slow and the 3D gimmick wasn't even appealing with how choppy it worked.
I actually held off buying one until the N3DS came out. And a few months in, I'll say its a really great system.

>>196686
Even with the 3DS recovering in sales, the systems still lack the strong third-party support previous Nintendo handhelds had. Signifying how bad an impact the 3DS first year was. Although, in fairness, the rise of mobile gaming also played a part.

Nintendo pulling out all the stops to make the 3DS a success, such as price cuts, and offering the Ambassador Program to early buyers shows how much it values it handheld market over consoles.

After the great and exciting show that was this year's E3 this is just fucking depressing.
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/best-of-e3-2015-game-critics-awards-announced/1100-5234/
It's like being offered a 3-star menu and then ordering the large fries instead, because it's what you know.

>>196692
Thats still some great fries.
Bet they have sea salt on them.

http://gonintendo.com/stories/237911-platinum-s-kamiya-says-mighty-no-9-is-an-insult-to-capcom-mega

Kamiya never shies away from saying what's on his mind.

>>196694
Well if Capcom would have stopped insulting Megaman for years then things would have been different. Company loyalty can only go so far. Heck look at what happened to Kojima for years.

>>196694
I feel like most of that stems from the entire project feeling so very very much like deviantart tier fanart and fiction. It's Chinese knockoff level. It doesn't even try to be its own entity because its so far up its own ass of trying to be be Megaman to a T.

>>196694
Inafune is the goddamn creator of Mega Man. How is it a copy? Disregarding who actually owns the franchise, he has every right to make this.

>>196698
Because the man acts like a child.

>>196699
He's a man who states his opinions and sticks by them no matter how extreme or controversial. It's something to admire in an age where publicly speaking your mind about anything seems to get you fired or crucified. He doesn't give a fuck and I admire that.

And yes Inafune has every right to make it sure, but he didn't bother to really evolve to do anything with it. He just remade megaman straight up and changed the characters ever so slightly. That's why people are saying it's a copy or knockoff. Because it is.

WOW LOOK AT THE SNOW TECH! IT'S...embarrassingly bad compared to Assassin's Creed?

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/22/8826347/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-e3-2015-xbox-one-playthrough

>>196700
How is he any different from Phil Fish though? Do you get the right to be an asshole towards your fanbase if you make DMC?

>>196706
Because he's blunt at worst and behaves calmly in spite of his harsh criticisms. Phil is just plain hateful and insecure.

>>196706
did kamiya compare let's plays to piracy or tell people not to get involved with game development because gamers are all entitled assholes?

>>196708
God gamers get pissy when people point out what entitled assholes they are. And never seem willing to ask themselves why everyone who isn't part of the gamer circlejerk seems to think this about them.

>>196709
that's my gimmick, stop copying me

Between Phil Fish and the Tale of Tales people, I'm wondering if we're in a brave new era of indie creators who actually hate games and gaming with all of their might.

People who go to conventions and do the marketing and the work, pitching their new title while openly hating every last one of their customers. Every letter of code typed, every line and brushstroke of the concept art, every polygon rendered, they imbue with songs of anger and litanies of odium, fie on us for we enjoy what they have wrought.

>>196711
it works for AAA companies

>>196711
I don't know about that, but I don't understand the logic of not being able to enjoy a game, or boycotting it, just because the creator is an asshole.

10 years ago nobody gave a shit about the actual individuals working behind games, but now with social media it seems that's all people care about.

//youtube.com/watch?v=CqWfcPfxnmc

Devil's Third is so bad that Nintendo of America is refusing to publish it.

>>196714

I'm wondering if that started with John Romero. Unlike other famous game creators like Richard Garriott or Roberta Williams, he had that more public rock star persona thing going on, and really rode that for a while.

(-until he rode it into the ground with Daikatana in one of the most schadenfreude-laden video game releases ever.)

>>196717
>"it looks like a game from 2 generations ago."
Oh god, the memories of "Avatar looks like a Nintendo 64 game" are rushing back.

>>196711
>People who go to conventions and do the marketing and the work, pitching their new title while openly hating every last one of their customers. Every letter of code typed, every line and brushstroke of the concept art, every polygon rendered, they imbue with songs of anger and litanies of odium, fie on us for we enjoy what they have wrought.
Since when do gamers enjoy games? The only thing I ever see gamers talking about is how much they hate everything related to video games for not being good enough or not doing things the way they wanted them to.

Disliking gamers is not something you do because you dislike video games. It's something you do because you *like* video games and find the toxic culture of pure contempt for the medium you love so disgusting. No one loves video games more than the people who make them. And no one hates video games more than the internet communities dedicated to video games.

>>196711
I actually see that as a bit of a positive thing. Improvement on a medium doesn't come from the people who like things just the way they are - they find flaws in it and work based off them.

Hell, the people who worked on Goldeneye hadn't really done videogames before so instead of following the tried and true tropes of games and FPS at the time they took something and worked on it with their own perspective.

And even then its not really about a hatred of games, at least on in the case of Kamiya and the other examples given. Its more about the people surrounding the games. Even the people involved in it realize its a toxic community.
Well. Except for those who're overly sensitive and get pissy about people not liking shitty behaviour.

...But that's besides the point.

I for one welcome our indie overlords.

Guess who's back in V and looking oh so sweet?
//youtube.com/watch?v=w3j44QEm8j8

>>196723

>dat new look

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn. Also, really hoping that person teased at the end is a new character and not either Akuma or Honda (as is currently speculated).

>>196723
I'm glad that after that kirby game more devs are going for that claymation look

>>196726
Same. Also reminds me of the knockoff Witcher hair hat in TF2.

>>196726

The yellow's way too neon. If it was more muted and closer to orange, it'd look a lot better.

>>196720
those who chose to become not-artists making not-art for not-people deserve everything they get

>>196731
Whatever it is you think you said, I suspect you failed.