>>193447 Honestly opinions like this register pretty low with me when I rate Let's Players, I mostly don't like Liam because he comes off as a lot duller and less knowledgeable of pop culture than the other three. The Liam is a weeaboo and lolicon jokes are pretty old too.
There are female characters onscreen who aren't about to be raped, this can't be a David Cage game.
More seriously: The dialogue is nothing like a David Cage script (it's a little questionable in places but not in the same way), and even if it was, the dialogue isn't even the problem with David Cage's writing. David Cage can write an individual scene decently enough, so long as nobody's trying to get laid in it. Cage's problem is that he's incapable of stringing those scenes together into a story that isn't pants-on-head retarded.
>>193510 I've seen the weirdest hateboners over this game. On another forum I came across a guy recommending no one buy it and expressing confusion why so many reviewers liked "this pretentious hipster shit". I had to point out that it was probably because these outfits didn't consider "FUCKING HIPSTERS" to be the be-all and end-all of aesthetic criticism. I mean, if Life Is Strange's cultural touchstones fill you with incandescent rage then no duh you're going to hate it. It's not for you. And, y'know, that's fine! God knows there's a million things I'd rather do than sit through a screening of the Three Colours Trilogy with my popcorn and a cup of Fanta, but I'm hardly going to waste time shooing people away from the cinema just because it's not my thing.
It's a multiplayer CK2 thread, where all players are playing electors of the HRE (the empire of Italia has been cut and the dejure territory added to the HRE so we can have more voters). I'm playing Saxony, and apparently 5 people are going to each play a merchant house in Genoa, it's gonna be a hell of a party. Think I'll try and go Germanic so I can rampage around the North lining my pockets and bribing my fellow electors (who, of course, are sacrosanct and safe from my aggression). And even if I don't convert, the Danes, Norwegians, and Swedes are easy prey for an armed and aggressive Saxony.
>Woolie beats Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. (on Novice) and challenges Maximilian to do the same >Max tries to do it in a stream (and insists on using the highest difficulty level) >the stream peaks at over 7000 viewers, but Max's crew gets stuck on the last boss (which is nearly impossible because Woolie's strategy essentially doesn't work on this difficulty level) >Pat and Matt both donate $100 each to the stream
>Pat: I dunno, I started to feel bad originally, when someone I noticed maybe an hour ago that they were doing it. Then I started watching, and felt less bad. Then Woolie and Matt start throwing money at it, so I gotta, I mean, we all need to enable this kind of absurd, self destructive behaviour. It's like throwing money at a 65 year old woman doing a striptease out in the cold. You really shouldn't, but man, she's going for it, and by god I won't go home without having enabled poor behaviour that I indirectly encouraged.
>>193820 In some ways it's pretty amazing that Drew made it this far through the series without knowing some of their most basic mechanics. Not sure if Dan or just the pressure to perform for an audience is to blame for this.
>>194283 >The YoVideogames crew sort of challenges the Best Friends Zaibatsu after hours of an entertaining struggle of their own >Zaibatsu responds with a video of Woolie beating it like whatever because he already knew the trick Like, I get that they already knew what to do and I guess they just wanted to show that they could do it too, but they at least could've made it a little more interesting or even a lot more fun to watch past the intro. I mean, they challenge Max to a shitty game and Max agonizingly does it with an amazing video from beginning to end, and then Max challenges them to a somewhat easier challenge and a way better game and they respond with a video of Woolie laming it out for 10 minutes.
>>194366 Yeah, but they thought they had it like three different times only to figure out their solution was either completely wrong or needed to be preceded by something else they couldn't see how to do.
Holy fucking shit Woolie is the worst between getting mad at Matt showing Pat Sonic Underground gifs and not listening to his fantasy rant about Ryu in Smash, Woolie trying to start shit about Wayforward making a game for the iWatch, and Woolie ranting about FFFFFUCKING GAMESTOP! Good Christ.
>>194398 Dan is alright. He's not nearly as funny as Jon and has a bad tendency to spam unfunny jokes/memes because "hurr maybe it'll become funny if I repeat it enough times like Family Guy" and he can't come up with anything witty, but he has a lot of heart despite it all.
>>194398 I feel a lot of their jokes and general humor is just them phoning it in. With Jon the quips and the joyous outbursts felt a tiny bit more genuine if that makes any sense? But even with Jon they still had those episodes of "let's yell because funny". I mean Dan seems like a super chill guy and Arin is... whatever, but a lot of times it seems they're just laughing at their voices rather than anything they actually said if that makes any sense?
Either way, I will always stand that image related is the best thing Game Grumps has done and ever will do.
>>194402 personally I prefer the gameshow games and mario parties
and hey no matter what, nothing can ever be as joyless as a session where Suzie is involved. She just tries to constantly dominate the flow of conversation and generally just isn't very funny to me. Rather than keeping things flowing she tries to jerk the conversation around and control it rather than let it be organic.
>>194399 I actually like Dan a LOT more than Jon, Jon and Arin were all about escalation into just horrendous screaming sometimes, Grumps is more fun for me personally now and while both end up screaming sometimes Dan adds a lot of much needed focus for the show like how you can hear him say things like, c'mon Arin let's at least accomplish SOMETHING this episode."
Plus being from a much older generation of gamer than even Arin his "caveman in the modern day" reactions are great, listening to him see Bloodborne without even knowing what it is is fantastic.
>>194401 Ross is so terrible, but at least they've corralled him in his own easily avoidable corner, there are times he's amazing though, like when he's being deadpan serious, he's not funny at all but when serious he has a lot of interesting insight.
>>194443 This. I personally find Danny great not just as a Lets player in his environment, but he's really good at reeling in Arin's own bad habits when playing. He's really funny and nice so that's just pleasant to listen to. And frankly I was personally starting to dislike Jon at the end there - where Danny now makes the show more LP-y (inciting conversation where there otherwise would be just railing on a game's mechanics), Jon used to be a louder less focused Arin.
But that's just my opinion!
>there are times he's amazing though,... As an artist/animator, I found Toon Grumps to be absolutely amazing and wonderful, to the point where I've listened to it a couple of times more since it came out. Arin himself did a huge 180° and when you get him talking about business and animation, not only is he serious as hell, he's actually really insightful - its great to hear him talk art on the main grumps show too!
I think I prefer when Game Grumps was just two guys playing video games and editing it, not 5 guys plus a girl making a business out of it. You may think that makes me a hipster, but the casual environment that makes the Let's Play concept so great is lost when you start making legal contracts and PR agents. It's gotten to the point where it's obvious they care nothing about their fans and are only doing this for money, and whether it's still entertaining or not, it's uncomfortable for me to watch knowing that.
I'm not sure I'll be able to muster the endurance for watching the Big Live Live Show Live 2015 live all the way through. It starts at 8PM for me, so it'll go until like 5AM. I'm certainly gonna watch the first few hours though.
So JonTron probably maybe isn't working on the new Yuka_leyley game or whatever it's called like we all expected during his last update video and is instead doing some sort of grand multi-part starwars game blowout.
>>194787 He's entitled to his opinion, but I will say that Jon, of all the "lets players" out there has easily the best production values for his show and as a result due to the scripted nature of things it feels better and more polished.
I'd actually not classify him as a lets player at all, but more of a reviewer and even on that note he stands head and shoulders above most.
Sure his writing and delivery can fall a little flat, and he may resort to some tired tropes, but I still find him quite a bit more entertaining than most.
>>194790 If it's over the stuff he's said outside of his videos, well, whatever. I've learned to stop obsessing over people like that for my own sanity's sake, lest I end up like my friend who fell off the slippery slope and spends all his time quotemining people or gets outraged whenever anyone says something bad about Kotaku/Polygon whatsoever because apparently political conservatism is the only reason they could ever dislike anything by them. Goddamn horseshoe theory.
>>194799 Chances are he was just looking for sympathetic confirmation bias in his moments of babby weakness, as opposed to it being a smoking gun that he's a staunch right-winger or secretly believes that black people/women/Jews/gays are an inferior group, as those people have been claiming about him (or "Arin the Tea Partyer"), but whatever.
I've occasionally found Plebcomics cathartic after dealing with particularly vicious social revenge warriors, but on the whole they're loaded with strawmen and logical fallacies, and the woman who makes them is an asshole who tried (and failed) to get Sarkeesian arrested by sending her CP.
>>194802 >and the woman who makes them is an asshole who tried (and failed) to get Sarkeesian arrested by sending her CP. Wait, what? I know her. She wouldn't do that. Like, this is a rumour, isn't it. Fuckin
Yes, I hate that following she's gained that encourage and enable her shitty habits and fuckin dumb comics but there's no fuckin way she'd do that.
>>194804 At the least, some of her fellow anti-SJWs who I originally started following back in quieter times before I realized how toxic everything was were crediting her with it and asking people to support her or send sympathy so for all I know it could be a whole cycle of shit.
Way too generous on that one buddy. This video is far from a good JonTron's league.
There's 5 minutes of skit featuring rapid fire Jon-isms (which makes them lose their charm) and predictable Star Wars gags (equivalents of foul mouth Mario for instance) in a 10 minute video. Roughly 50 seconds per game afterwards allowing for about 1 screen of the game in action (sometimes 2!) and less than 5 comments for the "review" before slapping in the next one and repeating. Your gif is tied for best thing in the video (with fake Jacques being destroyed) and it's a 3 second joke about mismatched facial expression and voice intonation.
Not a strong start in the least. Disney's Polaris Maker Studios is gonna need to kick it up for the proceeding entries if they want this marketing ploy to be successful.
Set, editing, costumes, props, etc were all great though. Obvious there was some ad department money from the Mouse trickling down into the project.
>>194843 With how long it has been since his last full video plus his update status video... and all those shots in the promo, I'd say it's safe to say at least 3 episodes have all been filmed thus far.
>>194839 There's a point to that, though. It's like giving a Sandler comedy a $70 Million Dollar budget and... well I mean, its like a Sandler comedy SHOWING that budget. There's a point where its inappropriate to get something across. You don't need crane or dolly shots in a Jontron video. In fact, the funniest JT gag I've ever seen was a floating SNES cartridge by a string and a stick.
But eh. I'm all for them spending money. I hope production values go up.
>>194930 >Someone needs to tell Pat and Woolie that it's OK to pump stats that aren't Vitality.
The Hunter's Axe is pretty much their main weapon, and Strength only adds about 2% of the base damage per point below the first softcap (25; they're at 20) and 1% after that. Its Skill scaling is about half that. So long as they don't keep doing it way past the first Vitality softcap (which they're one point below), it's not really a huge difference.
>>194933 10% of base damage. It's at 210 now, and five Strength points would take up to about 226 (yes, I know the actual damage difference can be bigger depending on the move). That will make a difference about as often as the ~20% HP increase the last five levels of Vitality gave them.
Point is, the stats are balanced enough that this kind of min-maxing is far from critical. It's an action RPG, how they're actually fighting is way more important.
>>194965 Yeah, regular Amygdala is a goddamn push-over and they had the perfect weapon for it ontop of that. Now that I think of it, most of the Great Ones are the easiest bosses in the game. Let's hope they find Ebrietas if we want to see them getting their shit pushed in by a cosmic horror.
>>195265 Nobody who isn't a fanfic character is a Mary Sue.
As for Superman, I feel like that character of the archetype super you're supposed to live up to is done a lot better by Cap, who while obviously no less unstoppable than pretty much any superhero at least has the ILLUSION of not being invincible. And for big flying dudes that hit people there's Goku. The only time I've EVER liked Superman is in the Bruce Tim stuff, and aside of Static, Superman's series is still the weakest part of that. >>195263
That's the correct way to handle Yahargul frankly.
Rodyle, literally everyone has heard everything you just said and pointed out the endless errors with it, but people like you who say that nonsense like Pat literally punctuate it with "I will never try to understand and I'll always hate it unreasonably."
So what do you want? A cookie? Congratulations you hate a character.
>>195274 Because everytime they say it is just as dumb as the last time they said it, somebody mentioned Yu Narakami being a mary sue in this thread, I don't watch or read or play Persona anything, I think he's the grey guy.
Now because somebody called him a mary sue and I've had marginal exposure to the game through internet ravings and spin off stuff like dancing all night because of friends, does that put me in a position to call that character anything? No. That would be REALLY fucking dumb.
>>195274 Think of it this way, it's like calling Shirou Emiya a misogynist and a Mary Sue or a moron because they only watched the DEEN anime without actually knowing anything about Unlimited Blade Works or Heaven's Feel.
>>195273 >>195275 I don't read them NOW. I USED TO read them. And watch the animated stuff and what not. I don't hate Supes like Pat does, he's just always been sort of boring that for that particular archetype I think even superhero comics in general have better examples. Do I have to either love the character or despite him, and do I have to continuously immerse myself in every single scrap of new material to make my opinion not "stupid?" >>195276 Not me champ. Also FSN is one game, not a character based between decades worth of different artists and materials, the scale is different. I am not denying that SOMEWHERE in the morass there is stuff I'd love (I like What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way even if I hate typing the title), I am saying the he lacks the hook for me to dig through that nightmarishly high amount of material. Maybe one day I will read Red Son or whatever the commieverse one is called.
Though on the note of TM, Nasu and Takeuchi say they want the Nasuverse to be Japanese Marvel and I don't know if I want that kind of artist devouring superverse to rise in Japan.
>>195277 Fate/Grand Order indicates a more Kancolle/Queen's Blade direction with a lot of the recent designs and needless shark-jumping genderbends. I already thought Apocrypha was bad enough with a lot of its more otaku-pandering designs.
>>195281 Tiki, I made a joke about a part of the podcast I found funny, that being the Angriest Pat Power Hour. You decided to take it ultra seriously for whatever reason. I am not going to take Superman from you. And neither, for that matter, are they. >>195280 Well GO at the end of the day is just some mobile game, it's not ever going to be the main focus, so I'm not worried about that. I also wasn't referring to artstyle, one of them literally said in an interview that they'd like for the Nasuverse to just be this base setting for others to write in, like Urobuchi, Narita, and others already have, so that TM can be Japanese marvel.
It's time for the "comments whining about furries or whining about the whining about furries" rigmarole.
Meanwhile, the game is awesome and has great music and charm. I do think Liam is going through it slightly too quickly and they're not noticing the aforementioned music. Still, good choice for a playthrough.
>>195362 He spent most of the first episode of the new Mario golf series talking about how much he likes fat. After now having watched grumps in a month due to my schedule that episode made me realize that I may have well and truly outgrown it.
I recently just finished this area and it is indeed a pain in the ass, with everyone coming back to life. Didn't actually make the connection that the woman with the bell was responsible for the act. Next episode should be an interesting one, with the upcoming three-way battle with the Hunters.
>The best we can do is address them honestly, actually engage with the tough stuff, and resist the urge to boil things down into simple binaries. Sometimes that means repeating ourselves, again and again: “No, I don’t think CD Projekt Red is racist; Yes, I still wish there were some people of color in the game. Yes, I still like The Witcher 3 a lot. No, those three statements do not contradict each other.”
Annoying as hell when you have to repeat stuff like that over and over, just to offer any ounce of serious critique, due to how thin-skinned gamers are.
So much giant content right before E3. I'm still on part 2 of Jeff's E3 drive mixlr and I've still got >>195752 , the latest Beastcast, the latest TapTapConcede and some major house cleaning to catch up on. There's just not enough time in a day.
Arin talks about being compared to Matthewmatosis and Dan talks about being compared to Jon in the latest episode. Also, Arin considers Bloodborne one of the best games released in the past five years.
>>195760 Didn't tune into the mixlr, but I occasionally eyeballed the Periscope streams and there's something inherently funny about Dan and Danny just wandering around a truck stop talking about clothes.
>>196130 Good thing most of the dinosaurs confirmed to have feathers weren't actually that big. And the ones who were big like the tyrannosaurs probably didn't have that many, similar to how rhinos and elephants aren't as hairy as dogs or horses.
//youtube.com/watch?v=HWYqDJ4N_1Q On this episode of Cryme Tyme, Matt and Whoolie check one of my favorite PS2 titles, as they try to decipher it's controls. Too bad they couldn't managed to reach Charlie on that video.
I mean just off the top of my head major jokes involving Liam come from him being the "baby" of the group with them exaggerating how young he is when they talk about him not being alive at the time of whatever they are talking about, jokes about his sauciness and notably the fact despite the other jokes it being delved into him being a manly gun-wielding, animal-slaying hunter alongside his family contrasting the rest of the team which leads to the entire "Huntin and Killin with Matt & Liam" subseries.